The Late Debate | 14 August

Lewens General.

Welcome to the Late Debate.

It's great to have your company on the Late Debate. I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond.

Coming up.

A cafe introduces Seagull insurance for Dina's worried about having their food stolen.

We'll get to that a bit later.

Plus we'll look at what's making news in tomorrow's papers. The Australians featuring a story on Peter Dutton who's calling for arrivals from Gaza to be banned, and football legend in Melbourne runs for the job of mayor.

We'll get to all of that a bit later.

Let's start tonight with a story about a bunch of bureaucrats who clearly have never worked with children and one miserable parent who should be ashamed. A primary school lollipop man has been banned from high fiving kids over concerns about child safety. Mount Dandenong Primary School crossing supervisor John Gooden has been high fiving kids for the past six years, but the council have told him to cut it out because it's inappropriate. Next they'll be introducing a happiness tax.

Have a look what's your favorite thing? Normally about coming across the crossing.

Plug came and get their first half five done.

For six years, John Gordon has been a crossing supervisor, always welcoming students to Mount dwand in On Primary with his signature greeting. Until last week.

He's always high five us from like prepped all the way to grade six and Navety can't. It's kind of a hello.

I like that kid. She summed it up well. Now, one hundred and fifty.

Teachers and parents have rallied around their lollipop man and organized a petition demanding that he'd be allowed to high five kids again. The parent who organized the petition, Rowan Bradley, told local media, when we roll down the window of our car to give John a high five, the lollipop man, that's John, he said. I'm not allowed to give kids a high five anymore, or call anyone love or sweetheart.

Indeed, Ron Bradley actually goes on to say that he wanted to start this petition because he wanted to show his daughter how to.

Stand up for what is right.

He's quoted as saying, I saw this as an opportunity to teach my daughter it's important to stand up for what is right. John brings love and joy to everyone. He puts so much extra effort into his job. The ban feels like an injustice to the community and I loved on three too.

W Today a caller called in and revealed.

To everyone, sure this would have been a big feather in John's cap that John was actually named Crossing Supervisor of the Year just a month ago. So in your face, counsel, can you believe at a time when our kids have never had worse mental health issues which has been covered at quite a well, We've covered it very thoroughly tonight

I just I cannot get over it. We do so many of these council gone mad stories on this program, and this is why you've got to keep watching, because like you would not hear a lot of these stories, know the madness that was going on if it weren't for the fact that we bring some of these yarns to you. But like, of all the things in the world. Okay,

So they've put out this statement basically inferring that this was in some way unsafe and maybe John's covert pedo I mean, for crying out loud. The love that the community has for him, look at him is very obvious.

Look at it he's such a jolly fack.

In people's day.

Every day they put out this statement saying council's policy states that unacceptable behaviors include exhibiting behaviors which may be construed as unnecessarily physical. What is physical about a millisecond of physical contact via a high five? Ladies and gentlemen, This is peak idiocy's nothing more.

The other crazy thing about this is you can guarantee your arranger's council if they had one hundred people complain about a pothole, nothing would get done. But one person complains about a crossing supervisor doing a high five, and all of a sudden, counselor on the job, and good luck replacing John Gooden when he retires, because what bloke would want to take up the job where you just try to be nice to kids and all of a sudden, aw, you're a threat.

You shouldn't be doing.

That, all of a sudden made an example of and we're doing no more than just trying to be a nice guy.

And this is why you have so few male primary school teachers because they are deathly worried of being accused of propriety or being weird or something. Because they want to teach young children, right like, they want to do something good for children, and they're worried that someone is going to make a complaint because they were in a classroom with I don't know, little Lola or whatever because

Yeah, but every night is a bit overkill, I gotta say, just every night.

Here we go. My HR file is about to be unfilled to you on air. And while we're on matters of council craziness. You know I love these stories, so I've got another one for you, and let's go to my hometown of Adelaide, where hold Fast Bay Council is employing a new tactic to issue parking fines that I've never heard of being used before, and it is outrageous. They are now using cct CCTV cameras on main streets to detect people doing things that are wrong and then

Local councils wonder why we hate them. It wasn't dangerous, no one was being obstructed, nobody was hurt, no one was upset. It was clearly revenue raising. But if I was an Uber driver, I'd be watching this thinking, do you job?

Help me?

Because Uber drivers pull over all sorts of places for a moment, so you can jump in and using CCTV, And we talked about how in many councils now they're using cameras in parking spots to issue fines. It removes that opportunity for someone, an actual person, to say, oh, don't worry about it, it's fine, and use some discretion. But when it's just cameras like that, eleven seconds, no discretion, no wonder.

People hate the council.

And this must have been such a setup, right, who's watching the CCTV and then rights to I guess the parking finds people to be like, by the way, saw this number plate.

They were there for eleven seconds? Get them? I mean, who does that? We're now seeing.

A cross departmental parking watch any way that they can get you. And what really gets me about this is when we're in the middle of a cost of living crisis and people are already just doing their dandas to make ends meet who what kind of nasty little snitch sits in local council and goes, oh, yeah, this finds deserve for crying out loud. I got a parking fine also on a yellow line, which I didn't even know about. They are not a universal sign of do not. I

Before that, I was in Queensland. No yellow line in Queensland.

So this you want to hope that's true. Someone's going to email me now tell me this is It.

Is simply not true. And I copped a three hundred and twenty dollar fine. I have a private park. I just happened to be parked.

There for a few hours because A I didn't know you.

Couldn't park on a yellow line, and B I was being navely because my neighbors were moving out and they needed my parking spot. And I was like, no worries, I'll just park on the street for a few hours. What's the worst that can happen. I'm sure we can all agree that parking fines are parking fines.

But three hundred and twenty dollars.

I too was hurting no one. I too was obstructing no one. That is just extortionate.

That is ridiculous. It shouldn't even be legal.

And this a week after we were talking about the fact that New South Wales councils alone in the last financial year it nabbed New South Walians one hundred and fifty five million dollars using this sneaky little tactic where they didn't leave it on the windshield anymore, you just get it in the mail. And of course that means people don't have a way of fighting back. There was no way to collect evidence, maybe take photos and be like, well, actually on that day, here's where I was really parked.

I swear you could write in a.

Complaint being like it was giving birth on the side of her she was really untimely, but my water's brought. Get some bot answer back, being like our laws stipulate that you cannot be parked this so and this is nobody she reads them.

I sweat And this is in glenil Jetty Road, Glanild And anyone who knows about Adelaide knows that Glenelge is the most popular beach in Adelaide. It's a tourist attraction. It's a really busy place. Jetty Road is the main strip and so if they are using CCTV cameras to monitor this kind of thing, they are just going to be running an absolute cash cow because you can never get a park on Jetty Road and they will constantly

Nice?

But right, yes, that would be the.

Right thing to do.

We're trying to work out who would do this, Who would sit there in a room with a CCTV and issue a fine. Probably the same person that complained about the crossing Supervisor.

Karens of the World.

The Show Karen put down the phone, ban that person's email onto more council drama, now of a different kind. The new South Wales state director of the Liberal Party's head is currently rolling because this guy failed to put in the nominations for Liberal candidates.

In up to twelve counsels.

How on earth is this possible, Director Richard Shields, what can you not operate a photo copier? It hasn't even been able to come up with a proper excuse.

Here's what he had to say for himself.

Mister Shields blamed the spectacular failure on a lack of secretariat resources.

Quote.

Unfortunately, we were unable to nominate in all of the local government areas that were put forward by the state Executive on behalf of the secretariat. I would like to apologize to Liberal endorsed counselors that were not nominated and to the party membership more broadly.

Not good enough. Mate.

Every other night we are sat here railing against the idiocy of councils that are firmly in the hands of Greens and labor councilors. And now we've got twelve councils in New South Wales alone that don't even have liberal candidates on the ticket, So people in those councils come election time won't even have a liberal option. This is democracy gone to the.

Manifest.

Well, it's not democracy manifest. In fact, it's a bullet in.

The face of democracy because these people won't even have the option to say, we want less green crazies running the show. We want less welcomes to countries, we want less counselors eating through time that they're supposed to be spending on roads, rates and rubbish, talking about oh what about Palestine, And we're standing for Gaza way outside your jurisdiction, lovies.

We're just going to have more and more of that.

And it rests squarely on the shoulders of this moron who wants to blame it on what administrative resources.

Apparently, well, in.

A few volunteers.

Mayre councils including Northern Beaches, Lane Cove, wooll And Gone, Campbelltown, Blue Mountains. Apparently we'll have no Liberal candidates running whatsoever the irin of course, if you don't turn up to vote, you.

Still get fine.

I know, why should you turn up to vote when the Liberal aren't even bothering. The nominations were due in at midday today and according to the article, the Liberals were running all over Sydney trying to get people to sign bits of paper get all the forms this morning. Still didn't manage to do it. So the ballot comes out tomorrow, the order etc. And it'll be missing a whole.

There are people who have lost their wards because the state executive or the party the state director sorry, couldn't get the nominations in on time. Now, look for those who live in other states and don't understand, in New South Wales you actually have proper organized party structures within council, so the party is actually on the ticket when you go and vote in council elections, which isn't typically in

South Wales general elections, they can't even nominate people for a council election and they're going to ask in three years time for the support of New South walesman to elect them to government in this state.

How can it be? I mean, look, the time and day by which you had to get these nominations in was set in stone. They knew what it was. Now what did the state director, Richard Shields wake up this morning as I used to do when I was at school and left everything to the last minute, And did he wake up this morning go I've got to do my homework. I've got to do my homework or the

The New South Wales Electoral Commission put out a press rely six days ago saying don't forget to put in your nominations for local government, little realizing they probably should have sent it directly to the Liberal Party head office because they have all people needed to know you can't make this stuff.

That's a good.

Question though, whether party politics belongs in local council because when you are roads rates and rubbish, you shouldn't be venturing into party politics whatsoever. In Wa, it's a very different system. You yourself, nominate yourself. I ran for local government, came first out of twenty nine candidates, beat the sitting mare, just casually.

But you are so humbled.

Hey, it was a great accomplishment, thank you very much. But it's all off your own bat and people stump up for their own pamphlets for their whether they want to go.

Door knocking, etc.

And so on, but you don't bring party politics into it.

Now, a small google of me would have brought up.

The fact that I was a liberal staffer, et cetera and so on, but.

That is not meant to encroach on your.

Job as a counselor because, like I say, roads rates and rubbish has nothing to do with party politics.

Neither should it.

And if these councils just left it out and so it doesn't matter what party you hail from or where your positions are on state and federal issues, it would probably go a lot better, especially for these liberal counselors in New South Wales.

The good news for us is that with not many Liberals on councils in New South Wales and it will be dominated by Greens and Labor Party members, we will have plenty to.

Talk about about. You ain't heard anything yet, you know.

Kim Williams, the boss of the ABC, was talking to staffers last week about the fact that they need to have more hard news on their website rather than these soft lifestyle stories. So I thought, well, let's see if that's changed. I went onto the ABC News website today. There wasn't much hard news is There was this. I got this headline dark skies are a library for indigenous knowledge systems, but light pollution threatens them. This was an

The world's population don't have access.

Not to light, to electricity, to food, they don't have access to black dark skies.

Called the first worlds.

She goes on to say that as an astrophysicist, artificial lightning is irritating because you try to look up into the stars, and that's a bit annoying if you're an astrophysicist. But she writes quote as an Aboriginal woman, light pollution is devastating as it hides our library of stars used to guide a healthy and informed engagement with country. The article goes on and on, but it concludes with what you and I can do to help Indigenous people connect with country.

She concludes reassurance can be.

Found in recognizing that, unlike many other pollutants, removing light pollution from an ecosystem can be as simple as turning off the lights. So there you go, that's how you can help Indigenous people connect with culture.

Just turn the lights off.

I literally cannot issues on.

The main news website of the a bitlement of someone who is literally writing an article. And by the way, this was by ABC Science everybody, so very scientific article. This was, but the self entitlement of someone to write this was quite a lengthy article explaining why you should turn your lights off because some of us want to see the stars. Like we're all at home sitting in high back chesterfields giggling to ourselves.

I've left the lights on.

Like affordunately, on any light on, because otherwise we'd be sitting in the dark. It's not some indulgence that were just like light up the house, love turn every single I mean it just I could not believe this article that you're now encouraging people to turn the lights off so you can see the stars. I'm sure I'd love to see the stars too, but I would never encourage everyone to then turn their lights off so I can see them.

I'll just take myself.

Out somewhere rural where there is less light pollution and enjoy the stars.

I was driving home the other night.

People had their lights on, things racist in them right.

Around with headlights. That's another one.

Drive around without your headlights on, please, because again that's more unnecessarily lightwood.

It's one way to sort of weed out the people you don't want in society. Isn't a bit of Darwinism at work. But actually she may have a point here, because, of course, the vast majority of light pollution is caused by street lighting, and street lighting is generally run by council, So if she wants to take the fight up against councils, then I'm all on board with it.

I know, I know we're getting mugged in darkness.

Well that's it. You should get mugged in darkness and rape and whatever, because we've got to be able to look at the stars at no But but you are right, Liz, there are places you can go where there is no light pollution. And sure there are fewer and fewer of them now. And I understand that some people like to look up at the night sky and see the total darkness and whatever. But it's called human progress, right, And what if she want us to turn into Africa or

I agree. I object to the term light pollution.

Now she didn't invent that term, but to call light pollution you get you off side immediately.

Indeed, indeed, all right, let's go on to some other international news, shall we, after we've spent a lot of time bashing councils and other stuff at home. Of course, I don't need to tell you who Imman Califf is, the individual one of the individuals who last year tested positive having x Y chromosomes, which indicates that you are a biological male, but has lived their entire life as a woman, and was allowed to compete as a woman

Theas we're looking, who couldn't fools?

Okay, Now, I think this case could actually be a good thing if it's done properly, because if the contention here is that I am a biological woman, and I have been slandered online as a biological and therefore it has been suggested that I was wrongly competing in the Olympics. Surely at some point Califf is going to have to produce proof of being a biological woman. Now, you know, you can argue, as the IOC argued, well it says on the passport she is a woman, therefore she is

Kliff could make history again with this case, becoming the first ever boxer to score an own goal.

That would be quite something.

But I just can't believe that Khaliff is complaining about cyber bullying after what Kalif did to women in the boxing ring, to now complain that Califf has been a cyber bullied And you can't say I want the right to identify as I want, but no one else has the right to comment, especially when the way you identify is affecting other people directly, including their physical safety. So you've got two issues here. You've got the right to identify as you please, and you've got the right to

Yeah, one way that this could just be put to bed, which it is a massive indictment on the IOC that they didn't make Khalif.

Just take the test.

Take the test, Khalif, or shut up, Like, seriously, if you want to prove that you are a biological woman, just take the chromosome test, because that's something that a lot of people are missing as well.

This was a chromosome test testosterone levels.

Because those can change over time, especially if someone's taking drugs to combat levels of testone.

That they may have in their system.

This test showed and it was run twice by the International Boxing Association.

They are standing by those tests to this day.

They of course can't release what they have in those tests because that's a personal issue. They can't just let people's medical records go on the public record. But that is something that Khalif could so easily disprove by simply taking another one that the iOS and others will recognize.

And what's really telling about this is that Khalif.

Never contested the finding by the IBA. Now, if you're a biological woman and there's no offens or butts about it, you would you would.

Go to the mattresses on that.

You would be saying you have disqualified me from other championships that I then couldn't participate in because you told everyone I have X Y chromosomes. If you have nothing to hide, you would contest that to the hilt. Then the IOC very conveniently just throughout the IBAS and those two have had bad blood for many years.

By the way the IBA and the IOC.

So the IOC say, olliiba's rubbish.

We're just throwing out those tests. And also we think there was some.

Russian collusion involved, because you know, Khalif had beat a Russian and the Russians were behind the testing.

All sorts of nonsense came out.

But the IOC then didn't run another test, and neither has khalifh take it upon him.

Or herself to do that.

That would be the easiest way to put all of this to bed. And I hope you're very right, Caleb, and that the court insists on that, because that would end this court case before it even gets off the ground.

Last week it was the International Olympic Committee pretending to not know what a woman was, and this week it's the International Paralympic Committee that will get their chance to pretend they don't know what a woman is either. With Italy entering the first ever transgendered woman in this sprint racing, visually impaired sprinter Valentina Petrilli Petrillo of Italy set to become the first transgender athlete to compete at the Paralympic Games.

In what get.

You know?

I don't change upon and.

QUINDI So even this sprinter from Italy admits when people look at me, they're going to see a man.

Well, yes, exactly. I mean our eyes don't lie.

We can see it, but we won't be allowed to say it.

Well correct, and well we just did. But hey, by the way, you can be so aware of that yourself and not feel any compunction about competing against biological women in a running race. You're like, well, yeah, I know they're going to be upset about it because they can see I'm a biological man. But I want to be here and do it anyway. I mean, that is so selfish. Say I deserve to be here because I identify as a woman. I know that I appear as a man.

He is serious and.

Clearly, if you transition at the age of forty five, you've got all the advantages of male puberty, of male bone structure, et cetera. Valentine A told media that he believed he was an important quote symbol of inclusion and then said this, get this talk about self indulgent. It is sport that has to find a solution, and excluding trans athletes is not a solution.

In other words, I am not the problem. I deserve to be here. You've all got to fix it and you can't exclude me.

So be an interesting week in the Para Olympics. That issue not going away anytime soon. We're going to go to a break when we come back. Peter Dutton says there should be a total ban on arrivals from Gaza. That's making front page tomorrow. Look at other news stories in just a second.

Welcome back.

Well, let's take a little look at what's making news in tomorrow's papers. And to kick it off Liz Storer, who insists there are no yellow lines in Western Australia or queens and despite the fact many of viewers messaging in during the ad break to say Liz, there are.

I am not aware of the literally until I got my three hundred and twenty dollars fine a couple of weeks ago.

I stand by what I said. I am not It's not a thing.

Let's go to the papers. What's making news?

To the front page of the.

Australian full Garsen blockade Dutton call. Peter Dutton has escalated the domestic political contest over warring Gaza, calling for an outright ban on arrival from the conflict zone in a captain's call branded as racist by Muslim groups. It goes on to say the opposition leader announced the new position in a television interview without consulting the Shadow Cabinet, just a day after seventy nine Coalition MPs called for Hamas supporters to be denied visas rather.

Than all Ghas.

And so he really has made a captain's call here, and he doesn't even have the support of his own party room, which I find very interesting.

He certainly doesn't have my support either.

I think it's very terrible timing, given it was just today it made.

Frontline news across the world.

This story when absolutely viral of a Ghazan father who'd his wife had just given birth to twins, and he left the home to pick up their birth certificates, and while he was out, he received a call to let him know that his wife, his mother in law, and his to brand new children had been killed in a blast.

These people are literally defenseless. They have nowhere to go. If this isn't what our refugee intake is for, I don't know what is.

And as long as our government is doing their job to ensure that they're not letting in violent jihadis, then I don't see why we shouldn't be taking people in from this part of the world, given that currently there is nowhere else for them to go. It's just an absolute disaster. I don't see how any reasonable person could support this.

I'd say a couple of things. I disagree that there's nowhere else for them to go. There's plenty of native.

Nobody else will take. Yes, that's what I mean by there's nowhere else.

So because it is factually correct to say there is nowhere else for.

Them to go.

Yeah, I take your point, it's factually correct, but there are a lot of neighboring Muslim nations that could take

A good guys, we can still take you.

Why would you want to play the risk that very talking point which isn't factually correct, and that is to say that all Palestinians support them.

And I'm not saying anything about Palestinians. I'm saying something about our government and our people security. I don't trust them to make good decisions.

Well no, and they are going to make mistakes. They always do. That is why we have this show and back.

We can't afford a single mistakes.

It's not that those have already been made, it's not a mistake.

Completely defenseless people who are going to be blown up if they don't get out of there.

This is what our refugee progress.

There are refugees all around the world. They should take refugees.

No, there are only a certain amount of refugees who are currently in the position that people.

As Christian is being squorted in South Sudan right now.

And we as a country, per capita, take more refugees than pretty much anywhere else in the world. We certainly bully our word.

It's true we're going to take them from somewhere.

And I in principle don't support the idea that no one from Palestine could have a road to refugee status. But when you have had Mike Burgess, as you said the other day, suggesting that someone who's given rhetorical support to Hamas could be allowed into the country, I am worried about what they deem as someone who is or isn't a Hamas sympathizer. If you can prove to me that a refugee from Palestine has no support for Hamas whatsoever.

This forget forget the ass This is what the Prime Minister says.

They're not going to do it, but to put an all out ban.

I know that Dutton is just saying what people want to hear, but what people don't hear enough of is the situation on the ground in Gaza. And to simply leave these innocent people, twenty five thousand women and children dead, Do you think that they were violent jihadis no?

Even if it's not all no, it's not will take the children? That would be something.

Liz, the Prime Minister, declined to say whether an individual who supported a listed terrorist organization such as a MASS would pass Australia's character test.

Why would you allow the Prime Minister to do.

Anything in an area where we can't really discern one person from another, and he can't even say that if you support Hamas that not necessarily failure from entering Australia.

Well can might have to do it and make what I'm worried about.

But I think that's because Mike Burgess understands that you're not going to have people in Gaza speaking out against Tamas. That would cost you your life potentially. So to say, oh, in order to come into Australia, you have to be what posting on social.

Media being like I hate Hamas are the worst thing.

Ever point, we don't know, and so we shouldn't be bringing people into the country who we're not absolutely sure and not going to be a security risk. The first job of government is not the rest of the world. It's to keep this nation security.

They have all the resources in the world to ensure that the people that they do let in a true innocence.

Like I said, they don't even they're just checking watch lists. That's all they're doing.

I know what they're doing, and perhaps it's not enough, but to have an outright ban, I'm sorry, I just don't think what what we even have bring in refugees for, Like this is the whole point of our refugee program. People who are like, if you stay where you are, you're going to be blown to bits through no fault of your own. We're going to get you out of there.

Let's move on with the rest of the news, because otherwise we'll spend all their time on this one topic, and we've got other papers to get through.

Let's keep going.

Don't know what else you like, Let them fry.

ACTU invokes Trumpian dystopia in Green Agenda Push. I love how they just think if they wake Trumpion on anything, everyone will think it's the worst thing ever. ACTU president Michelle O'Neil says green industry policies, including Labour's Future made an Australia Plan, are needed to stop cold communities from becoming hotbeds for an Australian version of the politics of resentment being stoked by Republican Party nominees Donald Trump and JD.

Vance in the US. Well, like I say, just call it Trumpion and it must be bad, bad.

We can't have these coal communities turning into hotbeds of Trumpianism.

He's an idea for the AC to you instead of suggesting that we need new green industry to take over from coal so there are jobs there at the moment, and then we need to find other jobs to replace them. About you just back in the jobs that already exist. I mean, you won't have a problem. How's that for an idea.

The other part of this article is Jim Chalmers, the Treasurer, accused anyone who disagrees with the maid An Australia plan of being quote maddies, which brings to mind Hillary Clinton's deplorables line. And so we've now got the Labor Party in the act. You basically just demonizing anybody who disagrees with them. The front page of the Herald's son big

Imagine if John Eliot had been Lord Mayor of Melbourne, that would have been interesting, of course, formerly the President of Carlton. But you know this would be a bit like Malcolm Blite running for Lord Meir in Adelaide or Mark Rashudo or that sounds fantastic. Oh wouldn't I reckonmend that I reckon. We should have footballers running the country, so Kevin Sheedy specifically AFL footballers running the country. They'll do good.

Elster Clarkson would be brilliant. We're going to go to an ad break when we come back. A cafe offers seagull insurance. It's a popular sandwich shop in the UK called The Toasty the Cheesy Toast Shack, and they're doing well but losing a lot of money because seagulls keeps swooping in and stealing people's food. It's costing them hundreds of pounds every day because the owners of the food store take pity on customers and replace their meals. The owner of the store, Kate, told media the gulls are

But it's been costing us a lot of money. Get this.

People are even left bleeding after the gulls swoop for the food. These are serious seagulls. Well, obviously you can't keep replacing everybody's food, so they're introducing a seagull insurance fee. Pay one extra pound per sandwich and if your sandwich gets taken by a seagull, then you've got insurance you can get another meal.

I reckon that's a great idea.

Yes, terrific, especially given it sounds like these seagulls hit rates by the way in that part of the world. Their seagulls are like weapons grade seagulls. They are not like Aussie seagulls.

These guys are big drone levels.

I think it's great. I had an incident a bit like this recently in Melbourne, and our Melbourne viewers will

Actually reminds me of having lunch in Africa and you had monkeys all around trying to steal your food.

They should introduced some monkey text there.

Before we go tonight.

Stephen Colbert holds a show pretty much nightly, I believe, just not the weekends, and he is talking to someone from CNN and unintentionally gets to laugh out loud from his New York audience. Check out what he was saying about CNN's objectivity.

He knew his attack lines on President Biden. He really has struggled with how to go after someone who's twenty years younger than him, who is a different gender, a different race. It's kind of been this moment where he has not been able to call us around a single attack line.

I know you guys are objective over there, that you just report the news as it is.

Oh, I know a CNN makes it.

And I know that's supposed to be a lab line. It wasn't supposed to be, but I guess it is.

They know even the New York is no CNN far from objectives.

We all know. That's it from US stick around. Coming up is the Read a Penny Show,