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here at the Lapse Fan about no holds. Bard have the seminal film for hold the Maniacs of Our Yolk from the late eighties and We've always wondered what it was like on set, what it was like to put together something that I've beg influenced a lot more wrestling fans than people might realize. I think
so too. You know, we talked about that in many ways being our introduction to to Hulk Hogan and the essence of the Holster, and never, I don't think did we imagine or anticipate that we have the opportunity get a little closer to No Holds Barred. And we're able to do that here for our fans thanks to folks at the Legacy Theater, who is presenting a play right now that you need to check out. It's running through June eleventh. Okay, it's called Masters of Puppets and it's a look a no holds barred
look at the dirty underbelly of our beloved business. And it's starring no less than Brell himself. We are privileged here at left to welcome Kurt Fuller and Kirk. This is this is this is huge. I think you know that. Well, of course it's huge. Are you kidding me? This is monumental? Yes, to have Brell all these years later? When was that movie nineteen eighty something shot out eighty nine, right, Okay, Yes, I remember I said to Vince McMahon when I saw the release date, I
said, it's coming out on the same weekend as Indiana Jones too. And he looked at me and goes, we're going to kill him. Kurt, you don't understand. We are going to destroy Indiana Jones. Indiana Jones. Oh my god, my god, if he was, if he You've got a job for life now you are, Vince McMahon. That's fantastic. Say
you don't have a job for life? Well, yeah, exactly. So was that your first introduction, Kurt to the bombassa miss of Vince is making those kind of grandios promises because he'd be the first to laugh about this movie today. But back then, um well back then there was no laughing going on. But they were no I I Vince, he made me. I
mean, I was a very young actor. I wasn't that young, but I was really just starting out as my first real job in show business, and they made me audition five times for the role for No Holds Barred, for No Holds Bard Give me a break. I mean, I did Midnight
in Paris and Woody Allen movie. I didn't have to audition at all, but Vince wanted to see me five times, and I realized now that he was looking to see if I could, if I could truly overact as much as he wanted me to overactow and apparently I was able to, which kind of why I heard making that movie was bigger, bigger, And I'd say to him, I'd say, Vince, I'm so big. He goes, You're acting next to him, a guy who was sixty seven wearing red span
deck. You can't be too big, so uh, that's that's that was That's what I take away from that movie is that you can't be too big. And that's the exact opposite of what you know you're used to, uh, in terms of film and TV acting like you're not supposed to play big, You're supposed to play small. It's the small, small small. I'm always I've always know my whole life too much, too much, too much, not not no whole guard, no, sir, entirely different experience.
Oh my god. Every time I did something, they do it against it, bigger, bigger, like say bigger biggers. I'd say. I had the line Miss Tidings take a leak okay, And I want I see this is how starred or beloved. I I look at the experience. You take your choice. Uh. But I I said it like throw it away, you know, miss Tidings, take a leak okay, which is how I would do it now if I had such a line, right, But they had me go and Vince was behind this all the way, Miss Tidings,
and that was that was no holds barred in a nutshell. So I guess the real question I have right from there is who was really directing this thing? Was it? Was it McMahon or was it uh Tom Right? It was? I think it was Tom right on the set, but I think he had marching orders. In fact, I'm sure he had marching orders because Tom Right at the time he's gone on to be you know, to do a lot of work. He was a stunt guy. I mean he was
that was his specialty. So he could he could direct all the wrestling and the stunts and all that. And uh, I think he was sort of told it's got to be bigger than big, it's got to be like a like, you know, a super Slam event or something. So uh, I think it was a combination super slam. Yeah, that's actually write that down. Did he actually now? So Vince was more a face to face presence for you an audition only, or on set as well. It's hard
for us to was he was on set. He and Hulk would would lift weights every day, and uh, I don't know what they were enjoying whatever, you know, I was never I you know, I I found that out later. At the time, you know, it all seemed like, you know, they were chummy and h they were chummy at the time. This Hope was at the top of his game. Did you did you work
out with him at the gym m or No? I was not. I was not going in there when they were there, But I did hang out with him a lot on said and we do all these you know, he was the toast of Atlanta where we were shooting. So and he was you know the thing that I that struck me the most about the wrestling, and you know a lot of people wrestler was a guest. It was the WWF at the time who came in. They came in and did things. Was and I went to Stanford and did some stuff and I saw them doing stuff.
It was a hundred percent business. It was. They were all about the money, and they also were all really screwed up physically. They were in major pain scars. I mean the pain you know, the wrestling may be quote unquote fake with thee is very real. Well, guys are hurt. Yeah, it's it's interesting that you glean that. I mean, there are so many wrestlers in this movie beyond Hulk, from Stan Hanson to the Duke of Dorche's Pete Doherty and Zeus Is in the movie and so many.
Yeah, so you did get a beat on the business in general. One of the things, Boss, if you could ready sound one for Kurt that we wanted to surprise you with, was you also, in addition to going to Stanford, I believe you also shot um a bit of promotion for the movie that aired on WWF television playing the characters. But I have buried that and forgotten. Possibly you can't possibly have any sound from I paid good money to have that foot in a vault in the North Pole. What about Hulk
Hogan and his big storry role? Did he steal a shower? Wise? Hook Hogan? Here? What are you doing? We had contractual arrangements, We had agree. I was lost it here, you're upset. I all right, I'm trying movie. All right, I'm trying to get a movie that's not a movie that's a travesty. The movie is Zeus destroys Hook, not Holps destroy Zeus. We had arrangements, We had agreements. It was contractingly agreed to that Zeus destroys Hook. Now where is he? I don't
know who you think you are, but money doesn't buy it. I'll fail you who I am. I am the man behind the entire movie, and it was pulled out from under me by whul Covid and whoever's behind him. All right, thank you very much. Fist. Well, I don't thank you. I don't think anybody connected with this movie or but you're on a line here, You're on a line, and I'm out of here. Fucker
romamot soon and Kurt memories please. Well, okay, First of all, I was cruelly ignored during awards season, truly, Yes, I mean, come on, come on and two or B whichever one you want. That was mean. Geen wasn't How do I remember these names? Oh my god? Yes he was, yes, he certainly was. But I was, you know, I didn't know anything about wrestling. They just told me to show up there. You know, they picked me up and you know whatever, and they had I guess they did a showing of the movie. They
had a real showing of the movie. And then they just threw me up there and said, okay, you're gonna talk to him now, just say some stuff. Told me nothing nothing, No, I'm looking, I'm an actor. You give me a script, I'll learn it. Give me a few days, give me a couple of weeks, and we'll shoot it. But that was like they just threw it. Looks like they threw me out there into like, you know, a snake pit and said, you know, okay, you know, avoid all these snakes. It was just all
completely off the top of my head. And I mean, you know you're online, you're I remember. I was just I was just panicked. I was out of my mind, not knowing what to do. And you know, here I am thinking this was my big break and this was you know, I can't screw this up. And I was just in panic the whole time I was doing that. And these other guys, they're complete prose. I mean, Gene Okerlin, he knows what he's doing so. This is
in Stanford, Connecticut, at their headquarters that this happened. Well, it was at a theater, right, actually theater yeah, yeah, that on the lobby, right, that's right, Yeah, true, truly, so yeah, it was. It was crazy. I did some others that he had me. There was a little kid would come to the movie okay, not part of anything, not part of anything, and they had me to steal a cookie out of his hand, yes and scream at it. Okay.
This kid was scarred for life. He was you know, he went came with his mommy and daddy to see the movie, and all of a sudden, the mean guy from the movie who he made couldn't he clicking associate see in reality was in there treating like absolute crack. He must have thought I was gonna, you know, take him away. And after we finished, I went up to him and I hugged him mind that Hey we were just playing, and he was like shaking, going okay, thank you.
He probably went through years of therapy because of me. I mean, it was ridiculous what they were doing. Ridiculous. That's what you get your tail in this water mane. I was happy to do it. Well that you did a hell of a job. Sound Oh my god. So I've heard different things over the years in terms of who you think you're playing as Brell.
I heard Trump come up, I heard Ted Turner come up. We looked at it and with the bathroom humor and with the over emphasis on like, you know, boisterousness, and just how how maniahal he, I think this is Vince McMahon's ID. Kurt, I think you were playing Vince McMahon. What do you think? Oh, oh, I'm I'm sure. I'm sure they wrote it as you know, what Vince would think as a mean, horrible version of himself, but is actually probably pretty accurate. But I
I didn't know Vince McMahon. I didn't. I wasn't a wrestling fan, you know. I mean I I actually am more of a wrestling fan now having done that movie and you know, seeing really how athletic these guys really are pretty unbelievable. Uh. But at the time I was, I was playing, you know, Ted Turner was the big dude Ben, not Trump, not in Vince. I didn't even know who he was, but I learned pretty fast. I was I was playing like a horrible Ted Turner that's
what I was playing. But I think I was really playing a pretty accurate Vince McMahon at the end of the day. I'm glad you agree. At the end of the day, were you told directly by Vince at any point we kind of want you to evoke Ted Turner here? Did he say Ted Turner? No? No, No, he doesn't think like that. He does, he doesn't have any and he creative, you know like that? Yes, you know, I mean, I think in the original script folk arrived I think in the Hudson River in a submarine. Oh god. And
he said we're not paying for that. Wow, And that was what that was what he was doing. Do you know that making the lore of this court is that you know to your point about the original script, that there was a moment. Hogan talks about it in his book, which you know, it's just as much fiction as nonfiction as you can imagine. I'm sure it is. I missed it. I'm sorry I didn't. If you need
a laugh, If you need a laugh, I recommend it. The question about well, I just keep reading the New York Times, you know, recommended list, and I've never seen his UMBOO. I probably I probably missed it, so go ahead, thank you. So but he has this Yarnie spends about how like, you know, shortly before the film was to shoot, they just had this him, him and Vince had this epiphany and they went into a hotel and Flora's at Clearwater Beach, Florida, somewhere, he
specifies the hotel, it's not important. Everybody gets together. He gets together with him, and they do like a like a three day session in this hotel of rewriting the script. And this is where Hogan claims to into it, the moment where he throws one of the ring posts like it's a you know, like it's some kind of a spear or some kind of like thing you harpoon a whale with. And he's got this whole story about how they rewrote it together. You know, arm in arm in this hotel room.
Do you remember, as a key part of the cast, there being like something that would indicate that happened. No, I do not. I know the guy who wrote it, Michael McDonald, became a friend of mine. If they had done that, he would have heard from him, you know, saying, hey, they screwed up my script. They took it, they made it and they have a bath. But I think he screwed it up all on his own. I think that. Yeah. You know, if they did get into a hotel room, they didn't get in there without
him because you just can't do that. You can't do that. That's not how it works. And maybe they had a couple of ideas they wanted, but they came from him. I guarantee it they if they got locked in a hotel room for three days, there would be no script writing. Okay. I think there would be nothing to do with the script would happen. That's all I have to say. That's fascinating you say that, because I don't know if you know this, but you know, Vince McMahon had his
troubles in the mid nineties. He was under indictment. No yes, no, yes, I'm I'm sorry to inform you, okay, and so part of it we've covered that trial extensively in the podcast, and part of it. His assistant Emily Feinberg testifies that the first time Vince, who of course admitted to using steroids himself in the early nineties, that it started on the
set of this film. She said, the first time, really, yes, that she ever talked to Vince about trying this stuff was on the set of a movie they were filming in Atlanta, So I think that's what I think. What's going on, Kurt? I think this is historical and more reasons than you realize. Yes, this is uh, this is a watershed moment right here. I'm shocked, shot to take a line out of Cats a Blankets, shocked to hear there was any steroid use going on on the
set of that movie. But I will say Vince is consist I don't know if you remember Barry Bonds when he got a big neck and a big head and big shoulders. Well, Vince, now is the after picture of Barry Bonds, and the before picture was him. When I at the movie, he didn't he wasn't in bad shape, but he was not he didn't get out. I don't know. I don't know how he looks now, but in the ensuing ten years he got significantly larger. Oh yeah, nah,
absolutely helped fan wrestling podcast Jack Ente JP Sorrow Wrestling Podcast. So, Kurt, what is it Jockass? Yes, I don't know what the hell is it? Jockass? Did you make ass? Did you make Jack? No? I make it up. Don't insult me. Okay, I don't know how it's it's lasted. It's because but people still make me to have to ask me to say that. You know, people still come to me up to me about no Hold's barn all the time. It's kind of crazy.
I mean, I wouldn't pick myself out of a lineup now as Brell forty years later, however long it's been. But people, I don't know. But I just took jock ass, jackass athlete, an acthlete, who's a jackass. He's a jockass. I mean, I don't who would that. Maybe Polk and Vince came up with that. I believe that. I think that Dukie. I wouldn't be surprised that in Dukey Dukie well again again some stuff. You know, where does the brilliant stuff come from? You just
don't know. But Dukie. Uh, they had just a great moment, came up with Dukie. I was also attempted to think Vince was behind it when you looked at the wrestlers in the very beginning of the movie and said they're all scum, Well it was I just say, what's written? You think I made any of it? Oh? Of course, not no, none of it, none of it. All I did was overact the whole time. And I was losing my hair. I really was losing my hair at the time, and I made sure it filled in my hair so you
could just see that I was losing my hair. That was all I would cared about. You did a little pro wrestling, though, didn't you when you backhanded Joan Severance and you couldn't actually hit her, but man, it looked like you did know. And you know, Joan Severance was delightful. Chief was delightful. And I did. I hit her, and I granted to kill her. I think I'm surprised I didn't rape her. I thought that was coming up. You had someone else that was I'm sure that was
a personal request from Joan that I not get nearer. So there is there is a thread where you sort of right right JP, he sort of six six bad guys on on her. Yeah. Yeah, there there's kind of a like an Anita moment in West Side Story. Yes, elevate you know, I noticed the website story parallel at the time very much. That's very interesting. You would say that I thought we were going to break into song at any minute. But you know, I thought the best performance in the
movie was Stan Hanson in the Bathroom. Oh really, yeah, yes, I thought. I thought he was fantastic. Religion little I believe it was tiny weener he was. I thought he was great. He could have gone on to great things. I don't know why he didn't. Uh, there was yeah, there was no no. They had one guy, some wrestler they brought in from France. Okay, yeah, he was I don't know his name because I just you know, but he was enormous, so enormous
that he couldn't get through the door of a trailer. Okay, so they had to bring in a horse, a horse thing, a horse carrier. Oh my god. And he sat in this horse carrier and it was fat, with his legs hanging over the back of the horse carrier the whole day, happy as a clan. I don't know where he went to the bathroom. I don't want to know. I don't know he didn't. I mean, he was in a horse. He was like, he was like a horse. They didn't even they didn't even put in a chair in there.
He just had him in there. It was like being in the circus. It was crazy, but he couldn't get through a door. This guy, I don't know how he ever got into a building. I mean, it wasn't enormous. I'm like any film shoot you probably have ever been on. So so you have to take me to a moment, Kurt, that's iconic
to me. It's when you get shoved at the very end into all the television equipment and sparks go up your ass and you make a one of a kind face that I still call upon today when I'm trying to think of what is the quintessential face one makes when being assaulted without notice? Uh? Tell, tell, take me into the method there? I mean, how are you certainly you know what is the pirate technics? Like? Did you have a dig back into something really, you know, far back and deep?
Yes, yes, I kid, I did a recollection. I'm not going to tell you what it was because it's uh, it's actually nature. But when we were when they were setting it up, Okay, Now, tiny lister Tom, who I loved and uh only the only problem I had with him is he would just fall asleep at odd times. You just fall asleep, and I'd have to you know, just before we were doin to shoot you was sleeping. I had to hit him to wake him up. Uh.
But he was great. But he when they asked him to do stuff like at the end when he falls into uh he dies and he falls into the ring. Yeah, isn't that right? Yea yeah, end off the balcony. Yeah yeah, the very end y'all of the balcony. Okay, well, they wanted him to do it, and he said, I'm not doing that for nothing. So I think they paid him three thousand extra for for falling into the ring or he wouldn't do it. They actually actually shut
down and negotiating with him on the spot. All right, now that that just doesn't happen. Okay, that just doesn't happen. So they're the guy, the special effects guy is saying. I say, and I think he was a wrestling special effects guy. He uh, I say, what's gonna happen? Oh, you're gonna pull this and sparks are gonna go out and h the sparks are gonna rain down on you. And I go, sparks, What what kind of sparks? He goes, Oh, it's it's like
a it's like a cigarette burn. And I'd say a cigarette, Well that's that's how they torture prisoners to get her cigarette. Barn Burn is a big pig. If if if you put a cigarette to my arm and burn it, I'm gonna cry like a baby. And he goes, oh, come on, I mean they they I said, well, that's really a stunt. That's really a stunt. And I thought, maybe I can get an electure money for this. There you go. Okay, Because when I did Ghostbusters too, there was a scene that didn't make it into the movie,
but they I was supposed to go. There was that pink slime. I was supposed to get sucked into the city hall uh in slime. So I they would take me with a rope and throw me into a green screen okay. And it was that industrial light and magic that George Lucas was really when you first opened it at the time. This was in the eighties as well. They gave me one hundred and fifty dollars every time they swung the end of the thing, and they did it about thirty times. Oh my goodness,
I couldn't do it enough. That was like a million dollars and you raise money, so um, I was thinking I could get maybe a hundred bucks or something, and they had no, We'll have your stunt guy do it. And then I my pride somehow I had pride, and I had no, no, I'll do it. So I went up there and I didn't think, why am I caring? What? What is the what is the logic in me tearing this whole room apart? Why am I doing it?
It makes no sense. I mean, you can shut it off by pushing a button if you want to shut it off, you don't have to tear the room apart. And how am I able to pull these? It's your citizen cane moment? Though, it's your citizen cane moment. I yes, but where did I get superhuman strike? None of it made any sense? And then I did it, and I'm telling you it was like being in a total torrential downpour of sparks, all right, Oh yeah, and okay, they didn't hurt like cigarette burns, I have to say, but
they hurt. They hurt. I didn't know what they were doing. I thought I was going to be permanently scarred all right, my face, as they had burns all over it. And so at the end I think I'd scream or I get elected. Hut and I go, oh, I hardly remember, but I was in true panic there. True I didn't know what was happening to me, and no one really explained that it was more sparks. He said, a few, a few sparks. Yeah, it was a trillion sparks as there are stars in the sky were coming down on me.
Uh. And that that is what I remember about that story. And the only other story, and I've told it before, is when hal or Terry as I call him, he bralled me to call him carry, which is fine. He I bribe him with like fifty I know what's what looked like a lot of money at the time, with some of the worst overacting and mustache curling I've ever done or ever seen done by anybody, even in
silent movies. Okay, I you know, I try and bribe him to come to my network, and then he shoves a check down my throat and says, I won't be around when this check clears. You know, if you understand what that joke was, which actually is one of the funnier jokes in the movie, I thought so when he did it. You know, in in film, you don't really shove a check down somebody's throat. Okay, you just started, and then they cut away, all right, and
then they maybe come in and they do it a little bit. He shoved the check down my throat, down into my throat to where I couldn't breathe all right. His finger nails, his stialthy fingernails scratch the back of my throat way down there, all right, and gave me an infection. Oh my god. And then I coughed for like I don't know how long, and he didn't do anything wrong. He went, he went, oh,
sorry, man, that's the way we do it in wrestling. I thought I had to do it for real, And I was like, nobody talked to you about this before you're going to shove a check down my goddamn throat. Here's the language I mean. It was. It was a bad moment. That was my only really bad moment. And that's through production off. Didn't I've heard you tell the story. Wasn't there like a delay because you had to get your voice back or something like that? Oh yeah, I
lost my voice completely. Wow. Yep. Well there's another thing in this Lord of This movie where Hogan goes a little too far physically. I feel like I think Zeus has done interviews over the year's Tiny the Light Tiny Lister where he said that at one point actually smashes him in the nose inadvertently during a fight scene. And yes, I remember you remember that? Yeah, I do remember that. And I gotta tall you something. Uh. Tiny
Lister was you know, he was a weightlifter. He was big. Oh yeah, but who Hooke was so much more athletic than Tiny, so much faster. It was it was like they couldn't really go at it because he could just throw Tiny out of the ring if he wanted to. Yeah, it was pretty amazing. Uh and uh, yeah, I think it did get You know, he was thinking Tiny was a wrestler, But Tiny's not a not a wrestler. He was just a big, kind of lumbering guy. Uh and a sweetheart, complete sweetheart. I was so sad when we
lost him. It was so and there was panic on the set or was it a small deal? Huh it wasn't a big deal, got it not. They don't panic broken nose, They don't care. They just move on, they do. You know, these guys are getting cut and they have stuff to do. Any closing words for Kurt well up against time here with the legend talk about Masters of Puppets. First of all, for sure, I did want to say quickly and I do want to hear all about the play. Um. I've been a big fan of yours for decades. You
are just one of my favorite character actors. And I always get a joy when you when you come on the screen, and nor when I see your name in the credits that you're going to come on from like you know, uh, your your I'm the pilot of news radio, for God's sake, and then yeah, you know, and then and then Boston Legal. But then also I wanted to tell you this. I don't know if you are aware, but you actually have in your earlier career you have a um,
a significant run of movies with professional wrestlers in them. Did you know this? Yes, Running Man, you get Man, you get you get Jesse, the Body Ventura. Here, I'm just remember you from The Running Man. God, you are a master. Thanks, you are a master. Get that show on, take that show on the road. We try, We've already kind of done it. Also. Professor Tanaka, a Japanese wrestler, also in The Running Man. Oh that's right, right, Red heat
ww wrestler Tiger Chung Lee in that one. And then and then god, damn it, thank god, I give my life on go on exactly. And then you mentioned it already and it's one of my favorites. Two Ghostbusters two. The guy who plays uh, who plays the villain there, I can't think of his name, Vigo Wilhelm von Hamburg. Wilhelm von Hamburg is a former professional wrestler. Let me tell you something about William von Hamburg, please, Okay. He was not only a pressure a pressions, he was
a method actor. Okay. He would refuse to go to the bathroom, uh, number one or number two and anything but a bucket. That's what he thought of character. So that's what I heard, all right, and I believe it to be true. He's would uh. He's got a very interesting story if you ever, if you ever can find information on him, it's very interesting. Ever, put into solitary confinement, I'll read it.
That's when you should read it. That's when you should read it. I think we've set up a brell with plenty of things to do with solitary confinement. Yeah, thank you, We do want you, We do want to of course give a chance to talk about Master's puppets. It's um it's kind of proximate to us here in New England, Brandford, Connecticut. It's the Legacy Theater. For information, go to Legacy THEATERCT dot org. Again.
As I mentioned, it runs through June eleventh, and Kurt, I think this speaks not only to you know that that first role for you as Brell, but also wrestling fans. Um it does because uh it's it's set behind the scenes of basically the w w E and uh my wife played by Amanda Dettmer, who you will recognize for many things, and myself basically are based on Vince and Linda the McMains as they we say, um. And it was written by a gentleman who worked in the WWE for many years, wrote
for them. And it's really a play about you know, sex, money and power, which is what they are about, sex, money and power. And it's I have to say, it's very good. It's I just saw it sold out tonight. I think it's got very good word of mouth and sold out tomorrow night, but there are still tickets left the matinees especially, And it's really funny, it's really smart and there's a lot of wrestling,
and there's a lot it's it's if you're a wrestling fan. I mean, I know a few other people who are big wrestling people have said they really recognized the whole world of wrestling, that we got it right. And I wouldn't know. But the guy who wrote it, he's not only a good writer, but he knows that world. And uh, it's funny, it's dramatic, and it's exciting, and uh, I really can't. I mean, I started as Brell, all right, I'm ending as my character
named Victor Cragston. But it's probably my last play. So I'm going to start my acting career as Brell and end my stage career as basically Vince McMahan. So I think it's coming full circle. It's perfect. How could I go on? Number One, It's too goddamn much work to do a play. Okay, it's really hard, and I didn't realize, you like a couple hours for a few hours, you gotta go out there to mote for people that, oh my god, him, you gotta learn all these lives,
Oh my god, horrible. Uh, But I am enjoying it, and I don't you know, I'm basically in it for the money. Now, I've had my story years, so I won't be doing each other place in it for the money. Some of the business didn't. If you're in it for the money, don't do theater everybody, right, That's that's true. But I'm having a great, a great time and I do highly recommend it. That sounds come down, I'm gonna circle. Nature of it is. Yeah, I love that. I'm gonna get some tickets. I'm gonna
come down to you it before I closes. Yeah, I'm in a lot of people who are in the wrestling world have seen it and they all come back and want to talk talk about it, and that they're all energized by it. So I think it's a good idea. That's great. We'll we look forward to. If I hated it, I wouldn't be doing publicity, trust me, of course. Yeah. Yeah, that's one thing is you
are. Yeah, you're stepping into it. You know. When I think when we well we talk about movies like No Holds Barred or movies where you know, actual actors have you know, interfaced with the world of wrestling. We always wonder it, right, I mean I've seen you say I wish it wasn't on my IMDb and now here you're stepping right into it. I certainly do. But this this I'm I hope gets on my IMDBB even though it's not a movie. Okay, it is internet because there's no Internet play
database, so I'll find get it on. It's true again, it's Masters of Puppets. Legacy Theater one twenty eighth Thimble Islands Road in Branford, Connecticut through June eleventh. Again Legacy THEATERCT dot org for information on tickets. You have our permission, LAPS fan listeners. Kurt Fuller has done the right thing. He's joined us in practice up and helped color in the no holds barred situation. So we can't thank you enough, Kurt for this contribution here to
the lore of this movie and into wrestling. I hope you really enjoyed the rest of the production. Thanks and thank you for starting my day right. That's what we do here and you do been great. Void things appreciate Thank you job. Basketballs out think we're there's a succeeding pres needing you know. Plaser production of the LAPS Entertainment Group. Its content is intended for private use. Only it's tidings take a leak.