Ep. 425: WCW's Bash at the Beach 1994 (Part 3 Deep Dive)

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A good data, have a good day.

Name it's a good data, have a good day, Jimmy Deep.

And we're back laps Pan Wrestling Podcast WCW Bash at the Beach nineteen ninety four. This really isn't one we can fuck around with, boss.

No, it is not. We cannot fuck around with this, you fucking bitch.

And if thank you, I don't even have to hit the sound bite, but I can remind you that the lapsed fan takes the stage Comedy Village Sunday, August third, high noon. Get your tickets at Comedy Village dot com and join us in the city that Never sleeps so the co chairman can issue an appropriate pounding for being a wrestling fan.

Damn right, damn right, feel your pain, feel the pain and get what you deserve.

Well, speaking of every last thing you just said, I believe it's time for the nineteen ninety four Bash at the Beach Death Toll.

Yes, we have fifteen Wow. Fifteen, which you know, all things considered, is kind of high for a WCW show. We don't usually. It's weird how w CW just didn't have a lot of dead people on contract at the same time. But we have Hank Aaron. Sure, it's not funny to laugh, but I just think it's funny. I

Come on, folks, look at the man. That's exactly correct.

El Angel, the Guardian, Yeah, Terrence Funk, Paul Orndorf, Kevin Sullivan, the SENSU with Sharance and Nick Bockwinkle. You said Heenan, I said Heenan. Those hurt. Yeah, Oh yeah, it's a it's a it's a it's a bad one.

Those are the core memories of a Hasbro era.

Oh yeah, I mean these are I mean yeah, these these are a lot of I mean, you know, even even on the w c W side, Like it's it's like these are some these are some some tough ones, you know, some real tough ones like Bobby Eaton and Race and whatever. Like it's like, you know, because so many of like so many of those guys, it's it's a little more recent a little more recent than you know, so a lot of died in the last couple of years,

So we're not going to you know, if we did this for ten years, we're not going to get to another ten with everyone left and with anyone left.

No, no, no, no, that's it. All our heroes will be dead. It's going to get worse before it gets better. In fact, it's not going to get better. It's going to get worse.

To that point. The aforementioned Darren Norwood, who provides the national anthem at Batch at the Beach nineteen ninety four, definitely felt some kind of pain. According to Wikipedia, a year after this, he decided to retire from music because of an alcohol addiction.

Hey there you go.

And he died in twenty fifteen, wow by causes that weren't apparently confirmed, but there was. Let's put it this way, there's no trauma, none, none, whatsoever. We start the pay per view with an image of sunrise and a voice over a man who wants us to know Boss that since the time people have dreamt.

You mean you mean this guy right here, this guy.

Since the beginning of time, people have dreamt of the unfathomable. The dreamers have turned into champions, and the champions too immortal. Tonight, wc W brings you the unimaginable one.

Two twelve times WCW.

Champion Rick Flair and five Champion Paul Hogan.

When these two worlds collide, a new universe will emerge with only one ruler, one champion. Live from Orlando, Florida, the Match of the Century has w c W percents Black at the Beach.

The audiences can expect just a great overall entertainment movie.

Rock.

Here's a question, quickly, if you have a second Rock, just quickly before you get into before you go into the premiere, what can audiences expect?

I think that audiences can expect just a great overall entertaining movie.

Thank you, Dwayne.

Oh Man.

I hope people realize that that's what we're here to do. It's press little buttons and giggle until the only people who are left are people who actually support us, something like us. Huh okay, did you plan obviously, you plan to isolate that sound of the intro of the pay per view with the voiceover guy w that guy rules anyway, Who the fuck that guy is? I need to get him on cameo. But did you plan on doing those little dil you called that in the fly?

Those are perfect because it's like, I don't know why, I just the no doubt needed to happen. And then all of a sudden I was like, well, wait a minute, there's more he wait flare and Hogan bites fucking went off. Oh Cogan here.

It sounded organic, it did. It didn't sound like over the top. It didn't sound like it was added afterwards.

I know. It's why it hurts so bad. It's patch of the beach, bitch.

Right Sunday, August thirty, a lapsed fan takes on Times Square tickets at Comedy Village dot com.

There goes the neighborhood.

You fucking bitch, You fucking bitch.

I don't know, I mean I can, so we go to Land of Florida. Wow, brings us in the Match of the Century. I'm very much into Match of the Century. I'm very much into the intro.

I like it. I do too, I do too. Listen they the it's it's weird because like I said before, it's it doesn't feel like an epic show, but it's certainly an epic match. Yes, you know, I kind of in my mind I want to have the epic match be the culmination of an epic show. But you know, we get what we get here. Yeah. I can imagine that Hogan didn't want an epic show in case he was afraid of being shown up.

So brother, Yeah, now all right, well brother, you know, I'm really happy there was less friction than I expected and getting to the fizz inish on this whole d bay zoo. Brother, I'm glad that we got this all on paper and everyone's on the same page. Now begins the real work. Brother, How we book in the rest of the card? Yeah, Terry, I didn't really think that that had anything to do with you necessarily. We were glad to take care of that on our own.

Well I'll do. I'm saying, what makes you think it doesn't have anything to do with me, dude?

And how am I to interpret this, brother, in terms of what are you afraid of bringing to old Hoogan?

I mean, brother, did you know I have you know, creative control?

Dude?

That just doesn't mean brother? On like you know my booking, dude, but it also means, you know, dude, I need to know how things are being booked.

Well, we spent all this time talking about subpairer that paragraph eleven, section E. What people don't know is in the initial contract there was a final clause twenty nine and it read, mister Bill, I'm just making this up. Okay, mister boleya shout decide who wins every match in WCW Perry Good.

That's that's the thing about. Here's the thing, dude. See, I don't actually have creative control. Mister Blaya has creative control, dude, So we have to kind of talk to him and see exacly what's going on. Brother, kind of what that is is, dude. So maybe if you want to kind of give you mister Blay a call, brother, we can kind of settle this thing up, dude.

But we're a little too close to shit Chizo time right now. Brother, I'm already in full gear. I'm hold hill. Mister Bulay is unavailable, dude. If you want to get to mister Bolla, the one PM in the afternoon of the show is the cutoff time in the trap.

Well, let me tell you something to do. I'll tell you what. See. What people don't know, brother, is that when it comes to mister Blaya, dude actually have power of attorney over mister Blaya on certain occasions. The power of the power of attorney. I have the hour of Hulk Amenia Attorney. Just imagine that people just like just like staring at him, like these people who have never.

Worked with him before, and they're all asking themselves, this is the biggest guy in wrestling. Is this how it actually is in New York?

Like, I mean, do we have Is he being serious or is he just kind of fucking around like Hulk Amenia Attorney? Brother, I heard you, dud. You know who I didn't hurry you brother?

You know why I picture being one of those people in the meeting right who Have you ever seen the credits Dan Biningham before?

Yes, I've seen the credit.

Sort of like a production supervisor kind of typeus W and he, you know, played a big role in producing a lot of things here. He spoke several years ago to Conrad Thompson on his Insiders series on his ad Free Shows platform, And I think Dan is the exact kind of guy I'm talking about where WCW was like fully staffed up with people who thought they knew how to do pro wrestling until Hulk comes into the company.

Talk to me a little bit about nineteen ninety five, I like WCW starts to change a little bit. In ninety four, Whole Cogan comes in. They have their most successful pay per view of all time with Rick Flair and hul Cogan at Bashed at the Beach. But in ninety five you're leaving WCW.

What happened, Well, Terry Bolayon is what happened.

Oh, when he came in, he and I did not hit it off, let's say. And to me, he's a narciss's personality to disordered sociopath and a terrible person to have to be around. He's a shoot heel as far as I'm concerned, and he made me not want to be in wrestling anymore.

Didn't get along.

With Terry, and I really really really didn't get along with Terry.

So, wow, my experience was very bad.

Why didn't you guys get along? What was this? Is all news to me?

So forgive me for being off.

I know, and I probably shouldn't have cafe this Now that I'm on your show telling their story.

I'm gonna have all tail on the least on me.

No, I don't know about that. And by the way, we can edit out whatever you don't want to air.

But I know I said it, I stand by it. But he just came in. I mean, my first interaction with him, we were shooting promos at center stage, and it was a two camera shoot and I had a wide shot.

It was him and I.

Think Jimmy Hart was his manager, and Jim Ross was probably an interviewing him, and so I had the three shot of them and they jim goes to Jimmy to do his promo, and I cut to a shot at Jimmy and then all of a sudden, somebody screaming cut, cut, cut, and then Hawk into the camera.

He said, you had never take the camera off the Hulkster and you're never too close to see the pythons.

So after that, I used a one camera shoot, and you know, uh, and that was and that just that's how it was. And so it was not a it was not a cordial working relationship, and uh, it was.

His way or the highway.

And really what happened was he was tired of being the babyface. Uh And he wanted to be a heel, but he didn't want babyfaces to get over on him, so everybody else had to be baby had to be heels, So it.

Became just a heel fast.

And if you do not have the dramatic arc of the babyface and the heel, the heel cheating to beat the baby face over and over again until it's really important and the baby face still didn't cheat, and a will to overcome the heel, then that's the morality play. And if you don't have a morality play, to me, you don't have anything in the sport, because you've got to tell the sport. The story is everything. The story is what gives the sport its power. So I didn't

He also said that there was a meeting where they were discussing when Hogan would close line Sherry and Dan bid them, who admittedly couldn't keep his mouth shut, pipes up and says, was he turning heel attacking a woman? I don't know, he's turning heel and everyone looks at him and blows him off, and then Eric calls him into his office afterwards, and, accord to Dan, Biden says, this is Dan, you leave your morals at the door.

Yes here, it doesn't sip. What do you think this is? What do you think this fucking is?

We're signing up the hulkster pal onwards and upwards.

He's a son of a band.

Yes, Nashville's finest Hogan just tossing people off payroll by hooker, by crook. They're fucking jumping off the boat.

I thought that was just so.

Great that some guys who could give a fuck about who thinks he is exactly tremendous. He went on to work for the PGA Tour in television production.

To Dan by good, look look at him, legitimate good for him.

Yeah yeah, And he also hit Eric with that in his interview. He's like Eric had said, PG is never going to hire you, you know, because you're wrestling.

Oh my god, I love I love how Eric is like, you know, here here is the uh, the executive producer or executive VP of the fucking of w c W. And he's telling somebody else that you're not going to find another job because you worked in wrestling.

Now, I don't remember saying that I don't call I don't call it sound like some one thing I would say, but even if I said.

It, et cetera.

Yeah, But you know, we always hear about people in the business belly aching about how no one in polite society or in broader entertainment and advertising take wrestling seriously, and how they kind of, you know, consider any experience in the wrestling business something to be almost ashamed of, to hide from your resume like a scarlet letter of

Ah. That amazing. Yep.

So they're showing images in the crowd here of Hulk Hogan signs and shirts, and they're showing a Hogan posing and they're showing the ticker tape parade with the w W number one sign, and I'm just it immediately hit me when the show open manned a, Vince served this one up to them by not doing this.

Man.

Yep, they absolutely did. I mean this could have been They.

Would have so much less if he had done it just once on pay per view.

Yep, yep, just one time. It's all he had to do one time.

They still would have done it, WCW it just it wouldn't have had this much pomp and circumstance to it.

No, because you know again, yeah, they would have done it because Hogan. Because it would have been done only once on pay per view. Yeah, you know, like would they would not have been done again. And if he'd just done it, you know, it would have been been so much better. Yeah.

Yeah, ww re match would have been good as far as like compared to what else they could offer the general public, but it would not have had this kind of pop and sizzle to it. So they have Hulk ripping his shirt in Flair's face, people going on, so

Mmmm, It's about to happen.

Hogan's comments designed to ease fears about tourism crime. Tourist crime rather are now do they mean crime committed by tourists or do they mean crime committed against tourists?

Are maybe a little bit of both.

Are the basis of a deel nearly struck between Orlando and Orange County and producers of the indepenit TV series Thunder and Paradise, which stars Hogan. In return for Hogan's assurances, plus filming the show in Central Florida. Orlando and Orange officials have a greed and principle to give the producers two hundred and ten thousand dollars in cash and in kind services. Big fucking combs up for the deal making.

Eckered? That kind of thing?

Bigs you know we're bringing we're bringing this production of Florida. We got We looked around and ask ourselves, where were we going to get our paper clips?

You know this probably we came down here. We didn't you know, we didn't know. We have to find places to get all of our tools and things. So we thought we want local vendors.

We don't want to be traveling all over the place to get our paper clay apps. Where we where are we going to get a paper clips in our landow?

Fuck Eckert. I got somebody right over here.

They can take care of that for As a matter of fact, for two hundred and eight ten thousand dollars, his company, he said, has hired eighty percent of its one hundred and thirty person production crew from Central Florida. The jobs, he said, frequently pay at least twenty dollars an hour. The company also has pledged to buy ninety percent of its supplies from Central Florida.

Vendors.

They have been filming episodes at a cost of one hundred thousand dollars a day since January all over central Florida. The pilot, however, was done last year on Florida's West coast, at least partly because Hogan lives in clear Water. The Tampa Saint Peter exactly what I gotta Why is that going to be in there?

Dude? Brother address to do? Yeah, what do you want? My drug? My drug mule lives brother.

You wet that exact address too, I get, I would guess a Tampa Saint Bulgaria then tried to land the show full time. That's when Orlando and Orange County started negotiations brought it on, but the Economic Development Commissioner of Mid Florida taxpayer dollars in the presence of Studios Universal and Walt Disney World brought Thunder and Paradise to Orlando.

Begs, Oh my god, that's one such a fucking Hogan thing, Ah, isn't it?

So the vomit here's watching this series and all of a sudden, it's just for no reason, they go to Disney World. You know, it's like forced in the middle. That's when Hogan will mention the ara. That's when Hogan will mention the area is safe. Hulk Hogan's testimonies are for sale, ladies and gentlemen. His representations are for sale. If you want something to be true, if you pay Hulk Hogan, he will say it is true. And I think that tells us so much. Disney's renting studio space

Man, Oh, you're damn right. It's like that's dangerous.

But why is it dangerous telling people what you've learned all these years cinematic well.

You know.

It, big thumbs up to increasing the palms of locals.

If if, if, because I'll tell you what number one. Whatever you think is gonna happen, it ain't gonna happen as far as like, okay, creating energy in the city, creating energy in the city, creating you know, you know, making it seem like everything's gonna run smoothly. No no, no, no, no, it's not gonna run smoothly. And even if it does,

Does there's one inconvenience, too much noise Exactly as soon as someone who's connected in the city can't get access to the set to take pictures.

It doesn't matter how much you've paid off the people whose businesses you are a fan, they always could have earned more, right, It's always a pity. You know, how am I supposed to know that I wasn't gonna get even you know, a big flooded you know, all week long? Who knows I could have gotten. I could have gotten three million people coming in my little bit shop here that.

I got a bitch shop instead of Hogan's beach shop.

So give the bit shop.

I know how much we're getting, mister Maya, but how much are we giving. Put a price on that and make sure it's higher than what we're getting.

I'm gonna tell you, if we're being completely honest, you we better be getting more than a given.

So these must be snowbirds here and run these businesses.

You know, you know, my brother's a Boston coffee here. You go, all right, and I'll tell you this, all right, they have plenty of plenty of things going on up there, right. They always get more money, and I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm gonna get more money.

Let me ask you a question. Do any of these film sets need details? Because my brother can come down here, no problem, absolutely, I'll tell you he'll take a leave. I brought my cousin, Yeah, my second cousin and my half sister. They're all Boston colls, and they can take a leave. And they can stand here and look at a hole and make six figures to do it.

Listen, they look great when they put their arm in the arm when they fold their arms, they look absolutely fantastic. You believe, you.

Believe they're working, You believe that, believe theyre worth six figures, all right, So fucking you want me to be happy with this production? Make me happy with this production. Such good stuff and under the cinemat you know jaws, I mean, fuck yes, you don't get it by now. I don't know what to tell you. Also on Patreon, fucking the live calls of all in that we decided to do with Mama Sorrow will go down in history.

I don't care what.

Anyone says things she says when when Adam Page attacks with the fork and many other things had happened. The fact that she thought ocado was Polish.

To me, that's just that's the That's the fucking icing on the cake right there. That is the cake, the ice, and the fucking cherry. Is the fact that she thought that Okada must be Polish, and even to the point where she saw him and was convinced that he was. She wasn't coming off that at all. Because she heard kazuchika, she thought it was kazuko or like some kind of right with the cz in it, you know, right, and we went we did not We did not let her

And ninety six when they started doing like that shark underneath the black and orange bash at the Beach on the coast with the right, Yeah, like the shimmering water. I always thought Bashed the Beach did a terrific job of making you feel like summer, which wc wwf al the summer slam didn't make you feel it.

It's hot, it's heat.

They they WCW really made you feel the seasonal stuff because well exactly, well they they also it was theme. It was the theme of it all. Like to think about it, they had they had all seasons for like a winter show, because they had Spring Stampede, they had Bash of the Beach, they had Halloween Havoc, Fall Brawl, you know, fall Brawl exactly, like they put it right.

In the name. They didn't funk around exactly. And also the thing about Summer Slam, and while it does definitely evoke summer, it's the end of the summer. Yes, it's always like, Okay, Summer's coming to an end, so we're

When they did it on July thirtieth in Nashville, were you happy then?

No?

I was miserable, exactly. Fucking Keep it in August. Just because that's the downside doesn't mean you switch it up.

Right, I mean, you know, you look forward to the fact that because it's one of those weird things where it's like, oh, I can't wait for Summer Slam, but I also don't want summer to end, but I also can't wait for Summer Slam. Yeah, you know, like that's the fact. You go back and forth with that all the time. That used to happen all the time, especially when Summer Slam would happen like the I forget the if it was ninety three or ninety four, that was

Yeah, Oh that's no. I never had that problem.

That's awful.

Yeah I had that problem like like two times. I always forget problem. So many parts of the country and even other states went to school before the end of August. It was always after September to everyone I knew.

But yeah, really, yeah, no, we always started. Yeah, we started usually the last week and like the weekend. We started the week before Labor Day.

Wow, that's a joke. At least let people have August. The fuck's wrong with you?

Nope? August Nope, nope.

That's one of the things I meant about wrestling. For all the war memories I have, I never also forgot the pit in my stomach when I realized how close to bedtime, like, there was nothing I could do after the show was over, I had to go straight to bed, and that that sucks, You know, that does suck.

So all I want to do is go straight to right during the show exactly. Again, I'm.

So don't don't come fucking around and acting like we're not as advertised when we say on the live calls on patreon dot com slash the lapsed fan that we watch modern WWE, so you don't have to because we fucking you can hear it in our voice.

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I love, by the way, I do love that he's pissed.

Oh altimately, Oh my god, bless this guy for having the balls to be cranky about WWE publicly.

It is. It is just so goddamn funny what we need. I mean that he can't. He just cannot get over the fact like that something you know is he's such a little bit exactly, and that's what we know. More like, I'm like, I'm thinking myself, what do you what do you expect to happen? Like he says like he he didn't like and not only did he not like the fact that he was cut off, which I mean, dude, who cares, Honestly, it's it's right, like what the fuck?

And Guntherar did a fucking marvelous job exactly.

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Now for him, it's all like for him, it's all He's one of those guys that isn't happy unless he feels like he forced WW to do something they didn't want to do on a power play. Hogan's that way too, like they don't feel like they actually won unless they got a concession. I mean, he's getting huge money, but to him, like I bet he's got a chip on his shoulder about being a WCW guy and all the bullshit with Triple H and Triple H making the calls

Yes, because his.

Phone will ring, not everybody's phone will ring after they talk shit, you know, tremendous. I hope everybody when they leave that company talks big shit about everything, because that's the only way we get the truth of these people.

He's such a he just is so like I just love I mean, because the bottom line is it wouldn't matter. That's the thing that I love is that it wouldn't matter. It could have been the greatest fucking it could have main invaded SummerSlam. He would have fucking found something about it. I love it.

I mean, that's what we all, That's why we were all excited. Is Hee punk back, you know, because here he's he's in again, and he's gonna call he's gonna stir the shit up, you know. But he made a bet of WrestleMania, so he's all good, Yeah, okay, right, pathetic. He'll he'll come around, He'll find that he uh come next WrestleMania. He'll be He'll be out there telling media like, oh yeah, they tell me that that was a real WrestleMania. And I argued for that, and I convinced myself of that.

It chucked up to me, Well, now you know what, Now he's going to win the main event of WrestleMania. Of course, what he wants is to win the Royal Rumble and win the real Belt from like a Cody at WrestleMania in the last match of the night. That's all he means. That's all he was deprived of. I mean, there's no difference between what he did last year on Night one and what he did with Undertaker in New Jersey.

And the fact that he won't say it is it's kind of like, okay, well we lost Phil, you know, we lost what was so much fun about film?

Yep, Yep. Listen, he's a company man now, folks, All right, listen, listen, just keep waiting. Here's the because because you know, here's the beauty of it. Okay, because because in this position, Triple H is not afraid to lick an asshole. Okay, he is fine getting his tongue way up there to clean out that fucking brown star. Okay, because yes, I

As soon as you think you stand on principle in this business, they will rest. They will stop at nothing until they've managed to get you to compromise those principles. They will throw the amount of money at you.

Yep. In a way, Paul is even more ruthless in this position with the way he's doing business because he's sneaky motherfucker. Let's fucking go, all right, he is a sneaky motherfucker, and he's now going to sneezing to you. He's going to own you by making you think you're the shit.

He's sneaky enough to achieve the same ends, but on the front end, making you think they're doing business in an entirely different way. And when you when you take the final assessment, you're like, wait a minute, that's that's probably even worse than what would have happened.

If Vince was there. Nag exactly.

So the Pyro fires off here in Orlando, and Tony says, it's the one night the entire world, the fans of professional wrestling have been waiting for, the one day we've been talking about for so long.

You get part of that, right. I don't know about the whole world, but the fans of professional wrestling have been waiting for this yet.

Absolutely, that's absolutely Sunday, July seventeenth. It's Orlando Arena, It's Bash at the Beach, Rick Flair, Holkogan Finally, Deny, Tony's in his talks. Bobby's in his red jacket. Gene Okerlinn is at ringside as well. To kick things off. They've got the Purple clown knows on their microphones and Jane says it's something that finally has come to fruition. And in Orlando they are hanging from the rafters. So glad Gene is there to say those things.

It is nice to have Jean there, you know, kind of. I mean, it's it's weird. It's weird that Jean's there. It's not his position ever, you.

Know, it's always in the aisle, wait to get pitched tight exactly and ready to fucking you know, Hawk is fucking.

Hotline, you know.

But of Spring ninety four ws WTV is an indication. It's his intrepid reporting on the ground in Orlando that led to Hulkegan coming here in the first place. Of course he doesn't. He'd make sure to be there with bells on. And he looks to he and he goes Bobby, heena, no, you're not happy, and he says, I'm gonna be happy when Rick Flair gets his hand raised in victory and Hulkegan leaves Orlando with his hands and knees on his hands and knees and all the humanoids are going to

Something something that's always so when whenever w CW would cut to the arena, you know, or have a wide shot of the inside of the arena, now, it always looked like there was something about the lights that made it so w CW. And I don't know why I think.

They I don't think they arrange their lights differently on the rig. I think the lights I feel like in ww were visible on the hardcam you could see the actual rigging, whereas WWF put their camera below the lights. Am I wrong about that?

But well maybe maybe that could be it. That could be it. But I also don't know. I wonder if because like I always remember, they're like the you can always remember the colors of the lights, and well.

They colored their w's WWF to't even color their lights really.

Well, maybe that's what it is. Then, That's what I noticed, is the coloring of the lights, like because they they always had colors and it was always like it just it that always meant w CW. It's fascinating. Yeah.

Probably probably was that they put the gels up there. I mean WWF color their lights, like if you had like the owen Hart entrance with the projection on the mat or on the on the carpet.

Right, but not just right, not just to open the show. They didn't have light right lights that because it didn't look like the arena was any color per se. But they did have That's that's it. They did have like they had gels in the lights that made it streaking out, made the light cud. Yeah, the lights looked different, you know, it was always crazy.

And they're you know their entrance ways too. I mean that was just w You knew your WCW when you saw the beach set or the cemetery, you know, it was great.

Yeah, I love this.

They had no respect for that, but that was also so core to the ww memory, Like people like don't even realize that that little extra like spark of creativity on the on the on the sets made such a difference and and made people remember w W so much more fondly than they would if it wasn't like that.

Well, and just to be the fact that they that they weren't afraid to celebrate, you know, kind of the seasonal yeah thing.

You know, life is about seasons, folks. I mean, I hate to tell you, I don't know how much, how many more times we got to prove this, but it's about is it the is it seasonally appropriate? Does it feel right to see this now? Because yes, we can see this at any time. Why now is one of the most important questions in this life.

Why now? Yep?

And that those little kind of details answer that question. Why not next month? Well, next month it's not going to be summer, is it, Or it's not going to be peak.

So Jean's there.

That would be a cold day somewhere, he says about Flair beating Hogan, not an Orlando pal Right, no cold days there at all. Tony says, Shack is here to hand the championship to the winner, and that gets a big pop. They're in Orlando. He had just signed to the Magic and as we talked about in part one, was an absolutely cross cultural sensation, not just in basketball but picking up. He was huge remembered blue chips. I do, I do? I saw it in theaters?

Is wow?

I didn't see it in theaters yeah.

I saw it. I fell asleep. This first movie ever fell through? Is that good? I do want to Actually, I always wanted to revisit. I've never actually gone back because I think.

This qualifies it. Honestly.

Yeah, oh yeah, I think Shack actually qualifies a bit because he's a It's not like he's not. You know, he's made several appearances.

In This appearance is directly coincident with the theatrical release of Blue Chips. The this stuby step here so his first one.

Oh interesting?

Yeah, so I'm all about that.

Nick Nolty and uh, you know, you know who directed it.

I don't know who directed it.

William Friedkin is that right? Director of The Exorcist directed Blue Chips.

I would have never guessed that a million.

How does that fucking feel? Jesus take some time that I know exactly.

I'll soo say, Tony does it? Mister T will be an Holster's corner, because why not. I mean, if if we're going whole hog trying to bring back the the old feeling as well, bring mister T.

But he does not.

He does not look like he's supposed to look.

And hey would bring he does not that bringing uh Muhammad Ali by Halloween havoc too. So you're right about but let's just fucking keep it on going with the Man in.

The South, Jimmy Harris and Sacial sharing a Flair's corner and with us from Giant Records, Darren Norwood singing the national anthem and he does.

That, Oh my god, oh here I got that because I think it is just awful in.

His evil can eevil shirt.

I know he's it's just bad.

Who say damn see by the dolls?

It starts off, Okay, what's so proud?

He's fucking off the reservation? What are you doing? Last?

Who's broad stripes.

And bright stars through the page?

Dude?

The rampart sweet, we're so Ganlands d Street.

And the rocket Swamly.

He's gonna he's gonna bring him bursting in it. He knows he lost her.

Gay food through the light that I Wolf Steve.

Wolf saved? Does that star spainle Bader?

Yeah, where.

Hold the note to get that che.

Land of the Free.

And the Home of the Bread.

There you go. I just I'll tell you like I'm not I'm not here trying to say that, like you know, he defaced America by doing that, because it's you know, it's it's a fucking song. I know it's the national anthem, but it's still a fucking song. I what I can't stand is is this attempt to show off.

Oh God, doing it the national anthem is always ground zero for that kind of shit.

It's like, it's like, if you like, just stop, okay, just sing it, do something if you want at the end, at the end, not during the whole melody, do it, you know like he did the rockets. Great, that's fine. That's when you kind of can do a little something there because you are singing pretty high. It's got, it's got, you know. The whole song is like crazy with octaves. It goes all the way over, you know, all over the place. But no, no, no, no, like, dude, don't

Don't know how to do that. Man, No, they don't put their flavor on it.

He's he's a he's a he's a country music artist or whatever the fuck, and so he's gotta yes, rest in peace. But man, what a what a piece of shit?

Tony thanks him for that, and we go back to ringside. First matchup for the television title. They mentioned Stain was injured on a live interactive telecast Saturday night.

Did we talk Did we talk about the dark match? I don't know if we said, oh no, please dark match, but yeah, they well, they talked about it briefly, the Molly McShane. They talked, you're talking about this one, this sassy boys. But they don't talk about the Armstrongs defeating Steve Kern and Bobby Eaton.

I don't know why, but that's not breaking news coming across the transom. As far as I know, that did not air. I mean, I think the only thing that we consider a pre show was the main event show on TBS earlier that Sunday. But they didn't do like one of those live from the arena thirty minute countdowns for this, which is crazy because it's fucking a whole cod and like you would think TBS would well, especially because Turner Home Entertainment's getting paid in the back end.

Listen? Is that in the back eating a don'tnut. Clearly that's what he does best.

And it's that involvement of that quote unquote fan that brings hult Cogan into a WCW ring in a lot of ways for the first time.

I guess you know the clash too, but well, yeah, yeah, I'll say the clash he does. Get in there. It's in there.

They pop with his red pants and does a delate atomic drop to Sherry and they talk about who is this guy? He's about one hundred fifty pounds trying to identify Sherry dressed in drag, and Hulk does the you and she's got a Sherry a ridiculous wig on her.

I mean it is in the mustache, the whole thing. It's just it is absolutely hilarious. It's one of her best outfits. Honestly becomes of ridiculousness.

Cherry is top ten. Oh, absolutely male or female as far as making it feel like it's supposed to feel.

Yep, yep, listen. She she knows how to go out there, and she's like Heenan. She's like Heenan in that she knows what she needs to do. She knows what the payoff is, and the payoff is her getting funny enough assaulted. But nobody thinks of it that way because she kind of because you know, I'm not saying I agree with this in real life, but in the world of wrestling,

She's like, come on, come on, sucker, that's it, come on, sucker, Like that's she's laughing her boyfriend in public. Ye three times, exactly, know what I mean, no problem for doing nothing, for just being alive. She's slapping him amazing, all right. She doesn't give a shit, and you know we can say all we want about how we moved on from that as a fan base and our appreciation for it, But

That's what he had to do. And whenever he eat.

Moxley for the title, what did he have to do to prove he meant business? He had to give her death valley Driver off the apron through a table and it shattered in a million pieces. So, you know, and he's supposed to be the the the the the the keeper of all that is, like you know, politically aligned and wrestling politically you know, calibrated, and uh, he's the one absolutely destroying this woman.

It is. It is so funny, how you know you just never thought twice Now when somebody hits sharing.

And and and him doing it again and getting huge pops for it, reminds us why Because when you when you make it forbidden fruit, it doesn't matter if the wrestling fan tells themselves that they are too sophisticated to enjoy that, or they've evolved past that. All you do in wrestling when you say something is off limits is make people want to see it so much more and make it so much more impactful when you do it again. Happened with chair shots to the head, it happened with pile drivers,

That's what she's dressed.

So Hold rips the shirt and lunges after her, and then Rick has to chop lock the leg twice and Heenan's cheering him on to attack the knee. Hul Cogan break his leg, break it on live television.

Oh my god, that's fucking it's not even live television.

He's been waiting for. So it was that night that was the calling one. Yeah, oh is that calling one that they did? But he man, Heenan knew And we say this all the time, abou nWo And we did Batch to the Beach ninety six. We've got to say it every time.

Yeah.

The arc of Heenan ultimately being right about Hulpe being a bad guy, yes, and I mean not a good guy, but like a piece of shit is like some of the most fucking satisfying stuff I've ever seen.

It is It is, It is because it's it's a it's a lifelong thing. It is all right, it is a lifelong and that's what you know. It's and I've said this before, it's it's kind of a thing that I always really hoped. I thought that Jerry Lawler would have done the same thing in WWE with Brett Hart and the Heart Foundation in ninety seven. Like it bothered me that he liked them because they were heels like

Great question, as Jerry, like, that's true. You're sitting in that chair. You made your entire WWF career off saying Brett's a piece of crap, and now he's shitting like America's.

Family, making fun of his family, making fun of everything, and it just yeah, and even if you were.

A heel, people would be behind you standing up for the United States. That would be a plausible reason for you to change your tune as a heal announcer. Yeah, what was there a discussion of that? Was there talk about maybe actually should be pissed that Brett is doing this?

But no, it just it just felt it was such a I was so let down that he It just felt it felt cheap that he that he sided with Brett Hart.

And everything we learned about Hogan, you know, as far as like his personal life and what a mess it is and the manipulations and his personal life and all the lawsuits and gamesmanship and pr stunts and all that, Like,

You know he would.

He had a fit about that tremendous stuff. And when he ultimately is vindicated and he's at Bachel of the Beach ninety six, almost he's not celebrating being right. He's sad that he was right.

Mmm mm hmm.

He gets very somber after the nWo angle, and he essentially becomes a w CW Homer baby face announcer. Yep, yep, so good. So it's great stuff, it's great and it wasn't even by design, but I don't care. Heenan knew where to go with it. That's my point. He knew where to go with it. He didn't like to your point, just say, ah, you see he pulled the wool over all of you, and I think it's great. No, he said, fuck you, like I'm still the heel announcer, but fuck you.

Yeah. So powerful he was. He was betrayed, you know, and that's what made it so fucking money.

Mister t hops up on the apron and they're going forward and flare Bales with Sherry. This is still on Saturday Night. Jimmy Harts in there, Hulk has the white belt off, ready to swing it. And that's uh a little bit of an appetizer for what's to come. Johnny be Bad will take the place if Sting, We're told, But then they simply the maybe Sting might be in the corner. We thought he might be in the corner of Johnny be bad, but that won't be the case either.

You know, dude, you know I don't listen get your thunder Paradise. Brother, Well you know what do you know, dude? I'll tell you what. Brother, here's the thing, dude, you know what I don't think you you know, dude, I don't you even not show up to the fucking bash of the beach? Brother, What's you know, what's the point?

What's what's the upside for you and show up?

I mean, I'm just I'm just thinking to you, brother, because you know, I'm not worried like I'm like, I'm not worried about me, dude, for the Stinger.

If all of a sudden he shows up anymore.

I just I just feel like, if there's if if all these guys, brother, you know, are kind of like, you know, these, I don't I don't want to take anything away from anybody, right, dude, I don't want to take anything way from anybody do. I'm just more thinking about how everybody is. You know, we're here, We're now the W's W family. Brother. You know, we gotta contake this thing on the next level.

You know.

So if we're gonna take this thing in the next level, do we've got to kind of create an idea that everyone's kind of on an equal ourn equal level. Brother. And if you're kind of playing you know, if you're you know, playing opening match the hul Cogan, that doesn't make you on evil level.

Well, Terry, then the solution is to not put me in the opening match.

Well, your brother, you know, dude. But here's you know, I don't control I don't I don't control the you know, the booking of the whole show. Dude. You know I have I have some creative control, brother, but I don't have you know, the control over you know, everything.

You're going to At no point in the process where you asked to decide where my match would.

Be ill, they said, do you have any suggestions? Brother? I said, well, you know, I don't know what the you know, you can kind of lay it out for me, brother, And they were like, well, you know, do you question here? Well, see, I didn't, but I didn't have any say per se. I like, you know, they asked, you know what what I had me like what my opinion was? Brother? My opinion was, Dude, I think that it all benefit Stint to not be on the show because I don't want to hurt your aura things.

Just looking down his hands folded in his on his knees, he's like in his gear for some reason, he's.

All fucking ready to go. Jude. I'm doing this for you because I think you and I got a big match brother, you know down the line.

But I don't, brother, not for nothing, dude. As bad as it went down between me and New York, I still have open lines serah, communication brother, if you want to talk to them, dude.

Brother, dude, if you feel like you can get a get him out of the company altogether. This number one basic. You know, I'll tell you what you know. You though things went down, Brother, I still got some pull up there, dude. So if you ever felt like you know, you can't have got a better deal up there, brother, think we've all at some point, brother, as fans, just so what

He got a buried the lead there, Darry. In fact, we have the papers drawn up right here and he had hands them in a minute envelope.

If you want to sign your sign right now, I'll get you a job of New York.

Brother, Well that's one way to deal with the incumbent top baby face.

I'll put a pen in your hand, brother, and let me take your hand. You know, I'll just sign it for you, brother, like with your hand. Dude. It's all good, brother, dude, you've already got tell you what, du you got guaranteed money? Brother up New York. Dude, you gotta you're gonna main event WrestleMania with Brett Hart. Brother.

We're just gonna get you out of here, dude, it'd be totally cool. We're just gonna get you out of here. Oh great, thanks Terry, God you make it so easy.

It's a fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lampsed Fan. He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno and Jpro.

I'm just thinking to you, dude, it's a big stinger brother.

So you're gonna not show up at the vapor of your brother.

I mean, so now you got this deal in place, dude, So you're gonna you're gonna not show up, brother? Right? Tell me not gonna show do you hear from me?

You hold on, You're not gonna show up, brother, right? And then he says, just tell me you're not gonna show up. Desperate, desperate, desperate to at least have something that he can throw in the guy's face if he shows up. Look you easy, I mean the sting man, I know sting Man is hot. Brother, I know he's important,

Brother. What's gonna take dude? I'll give you, Brother, I'll tell you, I've got ten thousand dollars in cash right now. What are you offering me this money for it? But to just not show? What would you get for you? What would you be your payday?

Brother?

Probably like fifty Honestly, I'm gonna give you one hundred thousand dollars to not show up. Brother, Just do the fuck away.

And I'm gonna give inexplicably Jimmy Hard one hundred fifty thousand and two show up so bad will take his.

Place to give you night. I'll give you one hundred thousand dollars in cash right now. Probably got a briefcase all lined up, dude, what's gonna take You gonna show up? Brother? You gonna do business? Brother, You're gonna fucking be a bitch.

Sting accepts the offer at about three thirty pm Eastern Time and goes back to his hotel showtime eight pm on the dot, the hotel phone rings in Sting's room.

Hello, Bro, they're not showing right, dude. Still there, brother, Still you're in the hotel.

Dude?

Why you in the hotel?

Have this call forwarded?

Do your brother?

Do you're Sally? Wait to Kevin Sully? Wait, you're not coming right? I just look, I am not going to not notice that Sting was completely absent.

From Hulk Cogan's dumbasy W debut show. I'm not gonna notice that, especially since Hogan saved his ass a Clash the champ. Do you think he would guaranteed to be here and he can't even make bad enough? Is isn't it bad enough that fucking that Sting is going from within within a matter of weeks, going from a world title match to fucking TV champion, Like, isn't that enough? Exactly? Yeah?

Isn't that like enough of a slap in the face probably to get Sting to not want to show up himself. It's got probably three D chess, you know, it's like, all right, we don't want him to be there. But we can't say that. So let's put him in a completely insulting match and have him work himself by not showing up at a frustration, thinking he's sending the US a signal, when in fact he's playing directly into our hands. Brother, when's the last time you went in? And dude, you're

Dude? Did you right? And Broler, are you you know you can't cancer? You're dying? Dude? This to me, it looks like you're cancer patient. But I just want I just want to do just like you talking.

I love how he explains the terms of engagement and standing of just instead of just engaging, he explained he's always setting the table.

This guy Turkey. Brother, Are you gonna be dead soon? I'm not. I'm not hoping that.

I mean that literally obviously figured you're gonna be dead soon as far as.

That's what I know. Dude, are you like? Are you in your way out? Brother? I just oh, this thing has said nothing? You know I don't.

He's just looking at him, blinking his eyes, not even nodding. Are you coming to the show.

Dude, But you're not coming on the show, dude. If you have to die, I'm not come on the show. That's fine, brother, but you're not coming the fucking show.

Come in, brother, Uh halk I understand yet you had something for us to run down for you. Yeah, you know, brother, I needed to keep an extra close eye out for the Sting man because brother, probably but.

Kind listen, yeah, I know I know what Sting is injured or whatever, brother, but I'm talking right now, dude. I want to make sure you know. I just want to make sure that he is safe, dude, because I've been put himself in harms. Point dude, we all know the guy. I'll we've all been there, dude. Well, we're kind of like, it doesn't matter how injury we are, brother, We d We just want to get out there and get to the show. But I'm very concerned about him, so I want to make sure that he is okay.

Half hour to the show, little hello, Hulk, I just want to check with you on something. Sting says he wants to go to the vending machine to get a snack.

How do you want to handle this? Why is there a reason why give it to us? Is there a reason why we can't have someone bring us back to him?

He's starting to question if this guy's in cahoots. Yeah, I wasn't born yesterday.

Dude, Hey, why can't we have fifteen people watching this fucking guy? Why can we have one? Guy? Carr He's working the phones all night.

Trying to make sure Sting doesn't leave his room. Hilarious. I love it so much. No one's ever considered this and like.

And uh.

Oh, he just can't stop thinking.

About it on his big night listen until he walks out to the arena. That's all that's on his mind. Like, this guy is so fucking stressed out.

Over this creates a whole new kind of overlay to all that Sting. Holgan tnh stuff where he's like terrified of Stinging being in his office or being in the building when he's not supposed to be. The face where he's got the you know that Hogan face, that famous scene where he's got the paint, the red paint. Oh yeah, that's the look on his face if he had any hint that Sting is actually on his way.

I'll get yes bathroom in his room, right, brother, I'll get you.

Back in ninety seven. Brother, don't worry about it.

We're gonna build for four years. Brother, a big payday, dude. And the crow has to go away. The crow, Brother, the crow just but we gotta build up the right way and the right ways. You're not come on the show's.

Stingen's got like a Florida ceiling window and his hotel balcony. He's sitting there with his feet kicked up on the bed, just like steaming so mad, and he's flipping the channels aggressively, and he's just like looking towards his door and he's like, I should fucking fucking and then all of a sudden, a window washer descends.

He's got it.

He's like loitering on Sting's floor like looking and.

He's got that fucking that that Hogan can hat that he had, ring ring ring, ring, ring ring.

I'll see you, dude. Hey, brother, what's up, Terry? Those windows looking a little spotty, brother, Lick Like, don't you fucking think I don't have eyes everywhere?

Listen, dude, you those winnows may be spotty, brother, but you're not doing any spots, brother, TERRYK Yeah, what's up? Easy?

Okay?

Can I can I talk to you for secon?

Yeah?

What's our brother? No, come on in, Terry before we get it. I just have to figure this out because I got a bit of a crisis in my hands. I'm getting calls from agents. What what's the big deal if Steve shows up. I don't understand why you're so locked in on Steve not being here at.

All, because I just don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want to steal his heat, brother, right. See, this is the thing, dude. See people don't understand brother hopping in this. There's a long time. Now, there's a long time. And what I know, dude, is I see a money mashup down the line with me and Stinger right now, but just not right now, dude. And if we're in the same building brother, on the same big card, Dude, it's just not gonna play, brother, it's gonna take away

Are you asking me this question, brother, because you're trying to get cover for what you've already done, which is he tells Sting to come here.

Brother?

Is he here? Did you get staying here? Brother? Did you give him a car? Is he here? Dude? Where's my camera? Brook? Jimmy, dude, give me the give me the fucking fee to the camera.

Brother.

The window washer, you have the fucking window washer, dude, do it? Empty bed? Brother?

He gets quiet, he gets he gets like contemplative. Like that's when Hult kicks over from paranoia to game planning. When that, when that octave goes down like that, that's when you know now he's actually scheming. So Johnny, all that is to say, Johnny b Bad is going to be taking Sting's place here, right, But hold on.

Heman's got a singer at the end.

That's pretty great, thought O'Neal in the back shat Kelle, Who cares? I saw him and his shoes off. The guy's five to eleven shoes up. The guy's five eleven, No wonder it used to be better the Bobby. It's very exactly exactly.

There's wrestling with Bobby Heenan and wrestling without it. You tell me, can you tell me if wrestling without it stands a fucking chance?

By comparison, wrestling without Bobby Heenan is worthless. It just is.

Jeane says, until five thirty today, we had the intention of seeing sting a pass at the beach. However, the doctors say the dude was slashed cornea. It's not the right thing to do, yo, brother, Just steamwoer sunglasses, right, dude? So Heenan laughs them. Maybe we should keep an eye out for him.

Huh, And he slashes cornea? We do that? Dude? Is that illegal? What happens we slash Cornier brother? Great question, like is he sleeping right now? This little fucking slash right now?

Can on the copizorn brother's cause? Is Kazorny so we can see a nochi in the middle when he didn't move, so that's going to be introduced later. But I'm like, is that antnio? No, Yeah, he's better believe there's a nine hundred line plug listening behind the scenes interviews. Uh, Mike Tenay and a guy named Tom Hunt who I don't remember at all is backstage manning the lines.

I don't know. Yeah, that was weird.

The fun that was lair Hogan, maybe even Bill Shaw who knows on.

The call, anybody doesn't matter who it is.

Cavanni rings us in it says time to start banging heads, don't you think?

And Heenan says brother.

The five eleven line about yourquil O'Neill, it's something some Johnny be bad and and here.

He looks just like looks just like little rich.

And no.

Friends.

God?

Is that Norwood on the song Gary Michael competitor your ring an answer? Here comes Tunny sing. We'll be getting a lot of that until Mike Buffer comes out and big foots all over him.

Johnny sing king Is that what it was?

Yes, Junny, he's just noises, he's not words.

Oh that's exactly right. He's got nothing.

As it says on his on his cape, Johnny b Bad's Cape, when you're hot, you're.

Hot as as it is is brother me, I mean my hot, dude, hot brother, I mean brother, who's got he you're hot about me coming into the company.

Dude, brother, why did you wait a minute? When did you what? This is an ultimate It's all here. There's no chance on this episode. There's too much at steak. There's too many things he has yet to iron out in his favor.

I mean, listen, listen until he comes out victorious at the end. Everything is in flux. Everything is in flux, like everything, it could potentially be disastrous, all this crashing down exactly.

Come true here. He's he's unprotected, the perimeter is unsecured. The barbarians are at the gate, yes they are, as well as the mings. So you better watch it very closely for any signs of slippage. Tremendous stuff. You thought Summer Slam two thousand and five, it was a deal.

Everything's on the line here, so true.

As we're staying. One of the things that uh Gary Michael could as he makes an appearance here, says in his book about the Stinger, the successfulst thing at Ben in w W the early eighties. The stories of Hulk Hogan's political chicanery that preceded his arrival the promotion caused the Stinger concern.

For his top position.

Wow, Stinger was concerned. I like this scary. Take me, take me more into the mind of the Stinger. Yes, I'll be doing. Were you afraid? Yes, afraid the gigs up? You're afraid the real stars here? You afraid that you're really just a whole clan? Are you afraid that this is no longer?

Could that be it? I don't know. Well, if I can on a Sting dude, Hulk Cogan and Sting same guy.

There, could we talk about that? Dude, I'm actually interested in that.

I don't mind taking You know what if I have what if I played Sting dude board and you know, one or two often I came out as Sting andgan the compromise.

They reaches him coming out with the Sting paint. It's just a matter of months. Actually that's what it took. He's like, all right, I'll just be a whole comaniac. Okay, you can come back, Steve. Sounds good to me. That's all you need to do it comes Johnny be bad? Do you want to make him mad? Sparkler's off the end and here he grabbed the All right, he's got a big it's not T shirt gone, No, it's one of those things that shoots confetti, the big fucking batons.

It's like, it's like, right, he's got them in his in the sleeve of his robe. He's got these things. It looks like he's got like crazy extra long arms, but instead they yeah, they shoot out confetti.

Like and he puts it right wheres dick Is blows his load on the people of Orlando. He says, bad wants to walk out of here. US Champ, he goes, I mean the television champion. I mean he wants to walk out of here US Champ too, But I don't think that's gonna happen either. There's stuff everywhere, glitter, huge circle cardboard circles of glitter everywhere. They get stuck to the wrestlers all throughout the first match of the night.

Yes, it's it's it's all. It's awful. It's really bad, Like, why don't even clean this fucking place up? We're so hard about that? I mean, why is it so hard? To just come out there and sweep them up. You know, here we go.

I'm looking at my watch. It looks like nineteen ninety four. It looks like Steve Rigal's coming to the ring. It looks like I need to just lay out.

Yeah, let's go. Don't let them off.

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Hogan, Gary Michael Kapeta writes in this book was everything that Bishop idolized. He was a household name, he had a masked considerable wealth, and most of all, he was Hollywood.

Yes.

Whenever Hogan arrived in the scene, Bischoff followed him around like an attention starved puppy dog.

Look at that.

Capitalizing on his notoriety and wrestling the haulk Stort accomplished what Eric dreamed about for himself from the first day he signed on as ww's newest announcer. He hate Bischoff, hates when people say that.

Hates it. My god, Yet everyone fucking says it makes you wonder, makes you.

Boys trying to push the company more in the direction of Woolshire Boulevard.

Peachtree Peachtree Street.

He does say that that guy wants an office on bullsh Are so bad.

Oh fuck yeah, listen, he wants to have he wants to have, you know, offices underneath. Imagine he wants he wants to work twenty hours a day and dressed like he works too. Yeah, exactly, he wants to work right underneath Brian Grazer and Ron Howard, all right on the little fucking corner. I mean they still have that office. I don't know. I don't know if they did.

I don't know if they remember when you did the regal theme in Philly on stage is what it comes down to for us. After ten years, you're standing at punchline on the stage. Noyone's sitting there watching you do it.

Fucking idiot, tremendous.

So here he is regal with the Sir William aka Buildlundie and the TV strap on and even one guy has the Union jack in the crowd, so they've got some support.

There we go.

Fake sign alert. Johnny b Bad is so pretty held by a woman. She was handed that sign. I will get dollars to donuts, he says. In the golf War, you could see the whole thing on CNN tonight. You'll see another war ironically too. You can't see this actually ironically, you can't see this on a turner. You can see this on a turner brand as well, just like you could the golf War.

There you go, There you go.

All right, Nick Patrick, boys, the strap mustachiout and uh looking very concerning Nick Patrick. He's got a buzz cut, and he's trying to make me think that he might be, you know, thinking about bomb bombing a building or something. I mean, he and he it's it's it's not like he does anything to really change that that that that suggestion. He is so bad tonight, Yeah, on this on this show, Yeah he is. I mean, it's an all timer in terms of his shadiness and his shitty fucking refereeing.

Oh he's setting a supper star kid in ninety seven, is what he's doing. I guess, so setting us up for fucking years as it is, But man, is he awful.

As bad tells the camera at showtime and a good day to be a bad man?

Was he good? Was he a good referee when he was on SmackDown? And ww I don't think he was bad because I don't know what it is. But he is just an awful lazy because it's not even like he's a bad referee in terms of he moves a lot slower than he he moves a slower, but he also doesn't specifically in the tag title match, he doesn't like he doesn't make an effort to kind of not see things. Yeah, yeah, he's just standing there cheat right,

It's a great question, great question. So we get John to be bad Versteve Regal TV title.

On the line. Whenever I see Regal during this era, I always think of his interview on Jericho's podcast from years ago, maybe eight fucking ten years ago, I don't know. He talks about how he would decide the style of the match based on who was in the crowd. Wow, you know, he'd look out in the crowd. I think he said he would do this with Guerrero and to look out in the crowd, and they would see, is it mostly women and children?

Is it?

Is it you know, teens? Is it is it adults? You know? And he would and he would adjust his style for whatever that was going to be, going from more comedic, comedic with you know, the h younger with the kids and stuff, and then going for a more technical, you know, intense fight for for different crowd like for adult crowds.

Yep.

It just was like this so fucking amazing. So if you don't really I don't think. I don't think people I know they don't. They don't consider that.

They think wrestlers have a whole fucking routine handed to them. They know that wrestlers call things in the ring, but they think wrestlers just call things to a predetermined order, like not back then, no, not necessarily.

Like you could ads. He could ad just based on who was there and like know what he needed to do to get the crowd, because it's all about it's all about how you're going to get the crowd to react.

It's all about how are you going tonce the crowd that you're in control too. It's like, because they can sabotage a match if they think chanting boring is gonna you know, accomplish something. But he's a guy that knows how to work a slower style and countenance the boring chance in a way that once those boring chance fade, they still realize, well, Regle's in control, and I kind of have to respect that, you know.

Yep.

So the rings covered and glitter has said. Regal is doing his walk around the perimeter and snapping his head off to the side like he used to do. You know that means it's time to lock up. Oh in the corner, there's a break. Keenan calls Regal his lordship.

They have.

Butterflies the going because uh, you know how big of a show it is, and he says, Gene has fleas. So Steve Wriggle goes to the arm ringer bad tumbles through and cranks on the shoulder to a pop, and Tony says, so it's a full arm dragon twist, so you can take your shot there if you're playing the Tony Shivanni drinking game.

Yeah, and you'll get You'll get drunk by the end of this show.

So Regal then flips forward. I used to love how he used to take that front flip when someone gave him an arm ringer yep, yep, and then off his back. He entangles his foot in Johnny B Bad's grip to break that uh and gets to a side headlock. And then Johnny b Bad tries to go back to the arm ringer, but Regal pins him in the corner lock up.

And everything well, and he gets the blood flowing is what it is? Blood flow? Yeah?

Yeah, right, because when you crank someone's arm, the blood just stops. I understand that just stops.

You got to re engage, So after.

He flips, he grabs Johnny b Bad's hair and yanks him down to the canvas and Dad comes up pissed at that, so Steve Regel with a great umbrage on his face as Bad closes it and the ref keeps them separated. Bad goes back to the arm head locked to the ropes. Regel pulls out the arm and yanks down Johnny be Bad to the canvas and smothers him with the lateral press for two. Goes to the knucklelock neon Belly gets too Johnny be Bad builds back up.

Like Okay, am I crazy?

Or is?

Did I guess? When Regal looked at the crowd, he said, I gotta do a more high flying stop right, he's taking he's taking flight. I've never seen him move like this before, Like he's it's insane how he's moving, like he's doing flips and flying like he's like he's a lucha door he is.

He's mixing a lot of that, like everything instead of just selling like that slow, deliberate pain he's selling like I'm getting lock knocked off my feet by every single thing Johnny b Bad does to me. So when he backflips back onto bad shoulders, he gets the two, allowing Bad to pull him down a sounset flip position for one, and then both have the circles of glitter stuck all over them. The canvas is more gray than I remember, boss,

I could be well, when we were coming New York to we have kind of gray. The kind of gray mad dude, the same Broler might be something to considered, dude.

That is one thing Bishoff said big time was like he got a little sick of it after a while. Hogan would never hesitate to take a moment to say that's you know, that's not how Vince does it, though brothers would do it, and they him, ah is it should you know? It's so ww have to be like, look, I mean I know you guys do your thing the way you do. Harros want to let you know as if, like if he knew how Vince did it, he would change his mind obviously.

But it's like, you know right because he went, well, brother, if you want to work big time, did he get to come up form vincetas dude? It would never Brother, He's he's a big time brother. I don't know what you're trying to run down here, but I'm a shit show Carni Town.

Yeah, I could say that again. To the Ropes, push off leap Frog Bad with the Japanese arm drag, Tony calls a Mexican arm drag, which is fine. Bad with the foot shuffle and Regal dives on the ankle to shut down.

Johnny B.

Bad picks up the leg and Bad spins and Regal ghost flying as a result of that, Tony credits Steve Regal for taking an opponent's change in stride from sting to Johnny B. Bad, and Heene said Regal doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to Steve Regal. All Americans to him are inferior. Regal goes to the side headlock and Bad tries to shift to the top wristlock, but Regal pulls

Now from Regal. I love it. I I I never I say this every time. I think I never really appreciated Regal back then. Yeah. I just always thought he was boring. I didn't like him. I thought he was dull. And I just think he's he's just got a much more grounded style than I think anyone maybe realize. I don't know, I don't know how he was generally received back then, but man, he's just he's just I just love watching him quiet taste.

Yeah, once you get the taste of what he's actually doing, and you like to your point, you hear a few interviews, you get a little color around, like how much ingenuity goes into his style, it's like, yeah, let's let's enjoy these matches for sure.

I mean it just it's just it's just great, Like he just I don't know, he get I get very I mean it's in a weird way. It's kind of like when like watching football. Like when I was younger, I used to not like watching football, so they didn't understand what the fuck was going on, right of course. But then you know what's when when you kind of learn the rules of football, it's like, oh shit, like

Putting the strategies to work. Yep, that you now understand and can appreciate. So Bad goes for a foot, it gets caught, it gets spun around. Regal grabs a front face lock, but Bad snaps out with a hammer lock. But Regal goes face first on the hammer lock, doesn't stand, goes face first. That's how you selles clutching the shoulder and takes a powder to get some advice from us. Sir William Heenan says that you know what's the problem.

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With Jack and.

Yeah, and it says if he takes a walk, he'll also I don't think anyone would boo I mean, name one. The only the only way you'd boo it is if they're playing your team right and you're and you're like you're there, then you boom. But I don't think even then people would boo for that.

I don't even think then it would really be I don't think it's personal driven. It's more like the play like you know, he he he, he did something that was kind of cheap. You know, he didn't give the guy, he didn't give him his team a chance to advance. They're not gonna boo that though, They're just gonna like

Will he? Then?

He then take a walk, as they explain, no, he won't lose the title. Take a walk, That's what I do. Take a walk to Tampa, he says. He gets back in the corner, they go regal ship. What whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa you're talking about to Tampa?

Do big night tonight. Bobby looked.

This is let's drink to a great night here, Bachel of the beach. Brother, I want to thank you for being magic. On commentary, dude was going over everything that we talked about, and just one note on the opener, there was a point, brother.

Dude, he takes out a fucking notebook. Did that's what brother? I saw here? Dude, you know there was a point during the opening mash brother, you talked about you know, Regal taking a walk to Tampa.

Do what was that about my Tampa? Well, Terry wat figured where it's the next nearest big city in central Florida. I mean we're right there.

All well, brother, you know I lived there, Dude. Why would you tell somebody to go where I live? For you telling him like you're basically telling him? Dude, why don't you go to Hulk Cogan's house and like go inside, like have a beer.

Tell me you didn't pick Tampa. There was nowhere in your mind, brother, was Hulk cocing on your mind when you picked Tampa.

Mean, why don't you say around in Miami, dude? Why not go to Miami, Bros? Why don't you go to you know, for Waterdale right there? You know dude Jacksonville. Why do you kiss my Why don't you kiss my brother?

You're gonna tell me as long as we've known each other, Bobby, you didn't tell me, brother that you didn't say Tampa because I lived there.

You're not. I been been going since Minnesota, Dude. We've been down a w a brother, and you're telling me

I love how it's like this prosecutorial like I've got all this evidence, like you are screwed, Like I've got you corner you can't say nothing. Then he goes, who you talking to? All of a sudden he needs All of a sudden, he's back and like trying to get information out of Bobby mode, like Bobby's not gonna say anything to you now. After that, I who are you talking to?

Like?

What are you? Bob? He's just like he's he's mortified, he's confused. Do you know what? A lot of it started?

And I think back it was road wild when we're doing the Jay Leno paranoia in a full circle with him doing Leno before Batch at the Beach ninety four. Yeah, right, and he goes to Jericho. He goes, did you have a conversation with him?

Brother?

That's what I realized, Like, yeah, just a conversation alone is enough to raise his suspicion.

Exactly what are they talking? The questions why why did you have a conversation?

Talk to anybody? You talk to Leno? Dude, you talk to the guy I'm in the ring with here in a couple of hours, Dude, did you did you have a conversation with him?

Brother?

You're talking to Leno? What what are you talking about? It's a good T shirt? You're talking to Leno? Dude talking pretty great, pretty good, it's pretty it's pretty great. That's a deep cut. That is a deep cut. Oh my god.

So yes, they get back in the ring. They go to the corner, regal shifts at a European upcut, a snap mare, and he's club and away. Johnny bad drums the front face lock, does the quick wrist grab to the hammer lock duck underneath. Tony says, they've been saying wrestling's cool again. They hit that one one too many times. God, mean, wrestling's cool again. It's old Coogan, He's but this wrestling is the same as it's been for ten years.

I mean it's it's it's not cool again, No, I mean, first of all, come on, cool and I don't know about that.

And that's such a that's such a low key cell phone, you know, like we haven't been cool and we know it, Like why would you ever admit that?

Oh so sad.

Wrestling is not cool when you put the same guy in your main event that's been in the same main event WWS for ten years. It's exactly any sense. He knows w watch ww put a hold on you. Hegle has his left arm hanging limp John to be bad, just standing there, not attacking Regal is.

Trying to draw him. They talk about everyone, no one, no one's talking about it like here, I actually got that clip here.

Listen to this entire city, this entire area of central Florida.

In the newspapers yesterday.

On the television stations, the only thing they could talk about Haltalking and Rick Flair.

You know, just last Friday, gen Oakerland and I were in Los Angeles making a movie Time Masters, and everybody in Los Angeles.

Was talking about the pay per view.

They were talking about this match, Hogan Flair, and not only that, they were talking about Vader, they were talking about the Guardian Angel, they were talking.

About Sunny Steve Austin Steamboat.

Everyone's talking about WCW.

Reversal well as they've been saying, wrestling's cool again.

Come on, yeah, sounds sounds like it w put a hole on you.

Oh god, I mean stop, nobody's talking about that ship.

Stop.

No one's talking about stop like no stop. Awful? Yeah, that was really, I mean, it's it's embarrassing. No one and his said wrestling is cool, okay, nobody, not one fucking person, And.

I think one person is a reasonable ask before they're allowed to say that, you know, it's it's a reasonable kind of per requisite.

So by the way, of course, a time master coming soon under the c.

I was gonna say, I'm glad you mentioned that. Did you know about that one before this pay per view?

No?

I did not know about that one before the pay per view.

Gene Oakland and Bobby Heenan.

Geene Oakland and Bobby Heenon. It's also got uh also got our boy Nils Alan Stewart. Oh shit, that's a fucking he He was Jesse Ventura in the Jesse Ventura movie.

Yes, yes, yes, probably probably already got the connections to yeah, because they could w W was heavily cooperative in that movie, lending them nitro and everything.

Remember that. Oh yeah, they probably and they probably met him. Yeah, they probably met him around here, you know.

In this one.

Got Michelle Williams in that fucking is that right? Holy shit?

Looking forward to it now, this is the fact you might have to fast track that one. I might why she got cooking there in the kitchen.

But I had some things, but I don't know. This one's this one comes very appropriate if we're gonna do it.

He should do it after the pay per view surface. Now anyway, let's see and look at that.

Look at that. You can get it now, all right, we'll see. Maybe maybe that's it. Yep, maybe that's it. Brother.

So regaliz his left arm hanging limb, trying to get Bad to go after it, but he's just standing there. Finally goes to the hammer lock, back elbow and European upper cut by Regal. Regal tries to sup lexits block. Bad goes to the wrist. Regal goes back to the elbows and a head butt puts Bad on his seat. To the middle rope. He does the dumple, jumping knees and then a drop kick, and he slaps Marrow in the face. Mary slaps him in the face with the dropkick.

Look at this guy? Yeah right, he is miserab Okay, such a fucking goof. I mean he's got listen, he's got sunglasses on inside. He wants nobody to know that he's there.

He didn't goes Probably I'm probably stuck in, he says. If Chris Levin merrou lifts him up in the arm ringer and wrenches down on Regel's shoulder, hits him until he drops cut again into Chris Lemon. He's next to Linda Hogan. Indeed, so we start to notice Linda, and.

Oh, I know that was I could. I was like, you start seeing the moment you see you see Chris Lemon, and then all all of a sudden, you see Linda's there. Then you see the kids, and then you're like, I can't watch any I can't nott watch anything else. All I can do is I gotta watch them the whole fucking time.

To think at the time before Hogan knows best and stuff. We had no idea, but Linda Hogan looked like no clue never that she was forever the whole time. Now that we do know, to your exact point, we can't see anything else. And she's overdressed and she's looking all, oh yeah, she's missmissed America.

You know, come on, so you think this is it's fucking come on. You know he's gonna win. Well, he didn't tell you that he's gonna fucking go. He's going over flair. Please knock it off. I'm not time for the shit.

Linda Headen says, he's a real lemon. All right, he is, isn't He don't look at me like that, he says to Tony on the.

Well, he's not wrong. He's not a fake lemon, because he definitely is. He's Jack lemon Son. He's a real lemon.

Regal tucks in a wild head kick to the side of the head to break free and back to the European uppercuts. Now corner to corner. Irish whip by Johnny b Bad is reversed and Regal puts the brakes on and turns around into a big drop kick for the count of two. Whip is reversed Bad with the tilt to whirl head scissors that he used to do, and man, did Regal know how to front flip and tuck that head at the very last second. Yes, indeed heel out

From under that.

That was.

Kind of a I kind of dug that that finish, that Regal power out of it. Yeah really, but yeah, that it wasn't just kind of like a slick wrestling, you know, reversal or whatever roll through. But the fact that he he fucking powered out of it and stacked the motherfucker and then held his tights.

Yep, yep, yeah, he didn't. He didn't wilt. He just went for it, you know. He he didn't chicking his way out of it. He just saw an opportunity and took it. Ten minutes, forty seconds. Lord Stephen Regal retains the WCW World Television Championship defeating Johnny B. Bad in the opening contest at Bash of the Beach nineteen ninety four.

All listen, he's very, very very involved, like he needs he listen, he needs information.

And Heena knows he's got a scram And Tony says, well, stay with me for a few minutes. As it becomes clear that he didn't kind of jump the gun on that piece, Tony mentions Chris Lemon and other dignitaries. Chris Lemon and other dignitaries. There's a phrase it's never been uttered before. Yeah, and nor shall it ever, He said again. The please Hogan look a lot guy is right over Tony's shoulder, as he would be for just about every

He hopes it works.

It does have to beat him, Maybe that's what I meant to say, so w CWS Elson negotiating the ward in The Observer was to even have Mike Tyson be involved in some of the training vignettes for Hulk Cogan. Bischoff flat out denied that. But he's been kind of weird about his talks with Tyson. I think he's kind of sensitive about the fact that they could have preempted WWF getting Tyson in ninety eight because they were in talks with him.

So I don't know.

I feel like he's got like a default position of acting like he never talked to Mike Tyson in his life. I'm sure he can find sound of him saying he did, but I always wonder about that. But of course Iron Mike was I think in prison at the time, so that would have been a little bit difficult. I think the observer sin in permission in exchange for permission to film Tyson w w's offer to air the bet ash at the beach for free throughout the prison. That would be something to see.

That's funny.

Tony says he'll be joined by Jesse the buddy Ventori here in a few minutes. As he Heenan waves his arm and checks his watch because he's got a lot going on and he wants the thing to move along. There's a woman in the ring with Gene introduced for you, ladies and gentlemen, currently Japan's premieer superstar, but also a tremendous human being elected recently by a popular vote to the House of Counselors, the equivalent of a senator. Please welcome the great Antonio Andoki and he comes out to

Am I to believe? Right?

I put an end to a legend in this country? Now you have to fly in suppose the legends. I just came back from Tokyo, where I beat the greatest. I didn't see this man anywhere to be found Antonio the whole time. Antonio and ok, he's given him that money, like dead serious, up and downstair, Like he doesn't understand every word he's saying, but he understands enough to know that he's asking for an ass kicking. Regal says, beating

That that is listen my experience when whenever a wrestler from Japan is taking off a coat, you get the fuck out of that, right, absolutely, that's what happened with Kobashi. Took off that fucking coat and oh yes, mark my fucking check.

On YouTube still lives on YouTube. So Regal bounces, you were lucky. He says, I'm sick of these so called bloody legends, and Regal even steps to a fan who hit him in the aisleway. Doug Dilander, of course, Johnny on the spot. Now Tony's with Jesse Ventura. Turn around, Jess, you're on camera. Oh you talk about checked out? My second he heard at Hogan's coming in.

He is done. He is just you can tell on his face. He is just like, Hey, can I get the fuck out of here playing Hey, hey, hey, I don't want to be here anymore Shavanni.

Jesse hated Hogan, hated Hogan, hated the fact that we hired Hogan and being the primited, down a little bitch that he was.

You know, the fact that there was so much focus on hul Cogan and no more focus on Jesse Ventura. You know, he got his undies all wound up, but he and he couldn't hide it, you know, he just couldn't pretend he wasn't pissed off. And that's exactly what you saw there. I mean is he was at his

What a bishop's been a rants Honestly, I can say, geez. Maybe part of the reason Jesse was cranky was because he had just found out in the deposition, well, it had just wrapped up the case he filed against WWF over collising and video likeness rights, and it was in deposition for that lawsuit that he found out that Vince undersworn Oath said that Hulk Hogan was the one who rated out Jesse's attempt to unionize the locker room before Wrestling two, so that might have had just a little

Totally, And they'll get their shot, as you said, Tony, it's just hours away.

And the big question is can.

Hulk Hogan do it?

Can Hulk Hogan come out of hiatus, out of being out of wrestling now for what almost a year, can he comes nature Boy Rick Blair and become first time ever WCW World Heavyweight Champion, or as I predict, will the nature Boy prevail? Because it's my opinion, Nature Boy Rick Flair's on top of his game. He's like a precision piece of machinery right now. And Hogan is going into this match with literally no warm up match.

Well, you're right, he's gonna have mister Key in his corner. He has been training with George Foreman Shaquille O'Neil. Tonight will present the built to the champion, be it either Flair Hogan.

It is going to be exciting.

It is going to be to night.

And we still in this program have comments from Hulk Hogan here on the main event.

I just hope Shaquille O'Neil doesn't bother me too much there. The guys put the word out his greatest desire in history is to get an autograph from me. I've got things to do tonight.

He would lother get an autograph from you the win the scoring title in the NBA.

You think I would say they as, wouldn't you? I know you'd say, yeah, well there you go, And where would you ask me? If you already know what the answer will be.

I'm in a reposition you go to work with.

Oh my god, what happened? A w c W was brought Hogan in and that stuff. The end for me. Hogan wanted me gone, and it was and my contract had about six months to go on it when they brought in Hogan, and I was never called back. So for six months I just sat at home and they paid me.

Why did he want want you gone?

I mean because Hogan wanted to control and he knew he couldn't control Jesse Ventura. And he knows that I'll say anything on the micah and and and I didn't even know they were bringing him in, and I badmlfed him and they never didn't tell me that. Bischoff didn't tell me he was bringing him in. And so right there, Bishop's loyalty was to Hogan because he managed gets an angle and when he left Vince and that cut me loose, even though I helped Bishof get to the position of power.

A little backstabber's that's what you get when you get a guy who was never satisfied with what wrestling gives him. Right there, money in absolutely that's with a wrestling ink there. Jesse Ventura speaking not too long ago about the ww row Cogan wanted to hold. Cogan wanted to control Jesse. The body Ventura and you can control Jesse the body Ventura. H I don't blame Hogan.

Not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen.

The things he would have said on the mic after that fucking core fiasco about Hogan Hogan would have been the fucking painted is the biggest crook in the world. For any little misstep he man in that ring, Jesse would have gone off the handle about him clotheslining. Sherry would never heard the end of the last thing you'd hear at Past to the Beach. Instead of this big celebration of Hogan's crowning in his first match, would be Jesse's screaming about Sherry the whole time. You can imagine it.

I do.

I am kind of bummed that, uh, it would have been great that he didn't Well, I'm bummed that he wasn't on commentary for this too. That's it.

That's just it too, that we never got I'm bummed that we didn't get Jesse even tourer commenting one Hull Cogan WCW match. I would have loved to hear what you want to come up with h You imagine if they worked it out and Jesse was in the Nitro booth. Oh my god, that's something you never think about. That would have been unbelievable. Imagine that sitting here picturing it. I'm picturing Jesse in the in the seat instead of

It would have been. Hey, I told you all the time, I'm not surprised at all. I'm not surprised. Look at this whole Cogan coming out to save the day. Huh, look at this. He turned just back on everybody. Big hero. That's what he does, big hero, Big hero. Why don't you go hit a woman? Right? Exactly?

And then I'm just like trying trying to get like the company line across, and he's just like going into business for himself.

I love the hook. Hogan's a son of a bitch. I've known that for years.

I love how salty Bischoff is about Jesse.

God bless you. Oh it's great, It's fucking fantastic.

So here, Jesse says, I had a fortune of wrestling in Okie. One time, Tony looks around like he's pissed that Jesse is talking about this.

Oh, I know his fucking thing.

Oh my god, the Land Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnacio m JP sorrow.

Oh, I mean, I'll tell you.

I did.

Look.

I did try to look it up this uh I wrote it down here when he talks about wrestling and Okie, are.

You trying to find the match?

I did? I looked, he does. He did wrestle him, but it was not like it wasn't what he said it was. Yeah, it was different. I think I have it here somewhere, but I don't know. Okay, maybe it's later on.

But so he said Regal shouldn't shouldn't Regal go to the back? He says, and Jesse goes, do you have to ask?

You have not me?

And he calls Jesse, your honor. That's gotta be a comment on the court case. You gotta put that on the h that's my contract. You gotta call me your honor because I'm the judge jorian executioner, but mostly the judge. I'm the judge jury executioner of Minnesota have been for years. They come to me, right, mm hm, I'm the decider. I'm the decider. That was uh yeah, that was That was the George Bush line. Yeah right right, I am judge jury and Buddy Rose so the executioner. So he's

Oh it's I don't understand that. I don't understand that. It's it's really it's inappropriate. It's it's inconsiderate. It's not it's not okay. So it's not okay.

It's Vader, it's w W it's ninety four. Let me see here, Yeah, this will be boons clang clang, clang clang.

With Harley. Look at a bump. Oh my god, absolutely, oh my god, Oh my god. And this is he bumped. If that if there was ever a time when somebody fucking like, you know, lapsed, you know, lapsed theory comes to fruition.

Holy ship was laughing my ass off watching Harley bump in this one men and a Men's Warehouse suit and he's.

Sailing seriously ah mm hmm. Fucking he is. He's out of his mind. Come on, come on, come on, he's out of his mind.

He is.

He absolutely is like that.

That.

That tubby little bitch is just out of his fucking mind. Come on, I need it, I need it. I need a bump. I want to feel my organ an. I need to feel the bump. I want to feel the bump. I need to feel build the bump, Build the bump, bump to the build word.

Dear mother bumped me home and said, West Virginia Gonfree Rhades bumped me home. Oh my god, Harley Race with a stomach full of Kansas City but barbecue, No question about that. This guy his smoked fucking meats and his tragger grill like smoking sky high. I'm smoking a bump, smoking a pancake.

The more the more I eat, the more I bump.

Hey, hey, come on, let's lock up. He's in the backyard at a barbecue lock up and gets pushed off on the grass.

It's like it's some it's some fucking you know, like normal neighbor, you know who, just like he lives in the neighbors saying all right, look, I know, I know, honey, I know it's a it's a pain, but we gotta go to the races. Okay, he's having a.

Is he gonna say? Built to the bump again? I still don't her stand with that.

I don't know, I don't know. But look he's you know, we we like to the neighborhood. Okay, we like to keep it. I don't even keel. Okay.

Five minutes later, he's taking taking the corner of his wooden deck like he takes the buckle over.

Daryl.

Come here, come here, Daryl, give me out. Let's belt the bomp. Come on, Daryl, fucking barbecue. I'm gonna bump.

What the need in need in need? Okay, okay, okay, Harry, how do we do this again? All right? There we go. Here we go, Here we go. There's a whole fucking ball game, my dear, Here we go. Lock up. We're gonna lock up. Okay, okay, okay, all right, Uh you're sweaty.

Pushed me, damn it, pushed me. Come on, go on, push me, just put me here. He does the things where his arms flail and off the floor exactly.

He's on the fucking grass. He's in like, you know, shorts and a tucked in you know, like a polo shirt. Okay, just fucking one foot on the ground, one foot up, straight up, two arms out. He just fucking bumps and then does like a backward roll, you know, having bumped. He's in a state of having bumped normal. Okay, Okay, Harley, you're right, ah, do it again, Get it again, Get it again, get it again.

You a bitch.

Guy's money, guy's absolute money. And he faces Ray Trailer, the Guardian angel here, not the one, oh fuck, not the running for a mayor of New York City, but in fact, Ray Trailer for Vader. This says it all that he's as soon as home comes in. Here he is after going for Flair in the world title the last time they were on pay per view or two pay per views go now he's in the mid card, as he says in his book, after the Thundercage, executives took me out of the main events scene. I knew

Yeah, okay, yeah, what what is his timeline?

I know he saw slamboury ninety four, which is before this, the month before this, and uh yeah, he's definitely forgetting.

That was his first match with With with the Boss Man.

Says it was at Spring Stampede, which.

But it was actually a Slambery. No, Slambury was the Sting match. Oh, Sammy was the thing match And this was the first time with with With the Boss Man.

This I think was the second time he remembers working him as the bus and then a Guardian Angel. But it wasn't before it stings in between, I believe is what he's what he's saying. But yeah, that's pretty it's pretty funny. Like actually that sting just gets relegated back to the old Vader feud. It's like, all right, go over there. That works, like, get out of here, we

And I I hate this gim it's so bad. It's so much.

It's like he was a cop in WWF. He can't be a cop because that'll be too close, so we'll just make him a guardian angel.

That's just another version of it.

Oh, it's just it's dreadful. The protector of ww the man who stands for lawn order. Like the fact that he's wearing a white T shirt and khakis is just deplorable. Well, that is one thing he has in common with you. He stands. He stands for lawn order, right, I do.

It's very true.

He once did not guilty, not ye Winkle had been stripped.

Worst worst call ever? Why oh, the fucking clown was totally guilty. Yeah, you had no I wanted him to be fucking I mean, that's you know. I think I might have said is when I auditioned, he was guilty. When I auditioned, the verdict was guilty, and then they change it to not guilty.

Do you think that they give you a k fabe thing for auditions so you don't go out there act like.

You know it's possible. I also think they might have changed it to make it sound a little more. You know, sometimes with those shows, it's like you can't you can't always have a happy ending on a lawn or white show. You kind of need to have justice not prevail in a way because that's life, you know that that's that's that's due process.

The ad a kind of walking down the courtroom steps after losing the verdict, exactly, looking looking back at the court and then walking to her.

Car, you know.

And uh yeah, but I mean I would have liked to have had him be guilty anyway, just because he's a guy with a break, huh, not to be.

They mentioned that Commission Nick Bockwinkel had stripped the Guardian Angel of his handcuffs and nightsticks, and that the Guardian Angels, the actual ones, had come to ww television taping and took him to the streets of New York to train on how to be a Guardian Angel. Okay, so Vader versus Guardian Angel here at bash at the beach and Harley gets it in so.

I understand, So how do you train to be Guardian Angel? But like, are they supposed to be non violent anyway?

Yeah, they're supposed to be basically like a like a force that keeps troublemakers from feeling like they can commit problems without being noticed, witnessed, intimidated.

Yeah they were.

They roll in the streets and they helped the police and all this. So Harley gets in our Angel's face and Trailer tosses him out of the ring and you better believe Race is pumping within seconds. Oh absolutely, and that that allows Vader to pounce on Guardian Angel, and yeah, there it is. They mentioned how JV loves it. They took the eyes off of Vader and I was paying for it. Jesse Ventura of course loves that Vader did this, and he says that a Backwinkel did the right thing,

I swear to god. Vader does a spinning heel kick at Basher at the Beach nineteen ninety five. Yes he does, Yes he does.

Takes down the Guardian. Angel Ado steps forward with a big lariat. Guardian ducks though and lifts and jumps Vader with a big backsup lex drop in.

Vader's just he just leaps. He does. It's like a variation of Scena's spin out powerboard thing there, and Vader's just making noises. Oh my god, is he ever Like he's just grunting and groaning. I mean, it's it's hilarious.

There's on him with the ray trailer right hands it's ray trailer and takes off the mask. Of course there's whatever ray trailer lands one of those slapping punches. This an ouf unimpact aa yep, and it takes off the Vader mask and the head gear is tony kind of like kind of like that, yeah, except that's Luger.

Receiving the move.

Trailer goes, oh, when he hits the guy, that's true. That's that is, that is his impact sounds much like Race with Right Invader with Oh, there's some moments in

Oh that soundless something Jesse would say.

Yeah, because Regal was in the ring with a nocchi and they were talking about how Regal got run run out of the ring justifiably so and and uh Jesse suggests hard.

Or something to do with it. Good.

Guardian Angel turns and slugs Race another big bump me to the floor from the four n W A world heavyweight champion. Race showed up in Orlando for one fucking reason, and that is to feel his back flare up from trauma. Yep, yes, okay, and it's come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. Not alive unless he's he's not alive unless he's bumping.

I bumped to live and you're gonna You're gonna bump it alive exactly. I bumped to live and I'm not dying to night. Bump me, you bitch, come on, come on, you fucking asshole. Bump me.

So screaming it out loud, fucking asshole, awesome fan bump me, and Aida ambushes from behind with a big barge and then he pops him with the right in the face and Guardian Angel falls down. Race lurking and a dark green blazer and curly brown nafro blonde afro, looking like the security guard that Michael Jackson rolls dice with in the last Dance. Referee Jimmy Jett presiding. Guardian Angel goes to the apron climbs in Invader is on him.

To the corner.

We go and I and I fucking invite you to experience the high low coffing blows of one Vader Aida Aida, Ada, Ada a correct and then Guardian Ngel starts throwing rights and left to counter and they go to the corner. In Vader goes off again corner corners reverse whip and Guardian Angel hits and Vader does a big barge with the chest to chest and puts him down. Vader is

Yeah. Right.

Vader goes to the mirror open leaps with a fucking sunset flip. What is Vader trying to prove?

What?

What?

What I means? Seriously, he decided that I guess, I guess. You know he's not wrong. He's trying to prove his worth to the to the higher up. He's doing fucking middle rope sunset flip.

It is hilarious that he thinks doing sunset flips it's going to be the key to prevent him from sinking further down the guard I mean, this was like a goof doing it fails, and Guardian Angel basically sits on him. Vader pokes the eye on the approach and does short arm clothesline, killing Guardian Angel, and then Vader kind of does a step over toe hold. I don't know what that was supposed to be. And Tony says, Vader has competed in Japan, so that explains why he's putting this move on.

He says, he just he applies his leg lock and there are just a lot of sounds coming from all different directions here. It's put on a.

Record hole a submission, hol right, you know Vader has competed in Japan, Tony on no Gate knows him very very well.

Right, Japan, they love the submission, right, Maybe something metricks to Antonio.

Hold on right right now, Vaders and her race pullet and break it, pullet and break its Harley race.

Oh my god, break in, Vader.

There's just so much going on.

You cut fucking you got Rachel, Oh my god, ah, you gout, fucking Tony Chivanni trying to rationalize a wrestling hold. Then you got Harley race bracket.

Come on, Vader, break heart.

Bracot and absolue cacaffeany.

It is just fucking insane. Now to the half Nelson. Also, I don't think I've ever fucking heard boss Man scream like that before.

You know, a whole few opponents had the size to do that to the man. I guess out of the half Nelson riding the Guardian Angel is Vader. He goes to the keylock gets too and Vader just goes damn it, like he doesn't know what to do next. And then Guardian Angel goes off with uppercuts from his knees. Vader rakes the eye Guardian until starts running in place like he's the ultimate warrior. All of a sudden, it's the

Well, you know, it's it's funny to me because you know, in WWE, he never he never connected with the Moon Salt, right. It was like, if he goes to the Moon Salt, you know he's not going to hit it. I don't know why they did that to him, but you knew he was never going to hit it, cause he never did. But so it always makes me think that he's going to miss it in WCW. But that's not the case. In WW. They know what to do with him. In WCW, they respected what he could do and listen and listen,

Can you imagine sitting on your back and watching him go up and like that second before his big ass body hits you, you're like, oh my god.

Like the fact that more people don't naturally like either roll out of the way or like kind of grab their body or whatever, like kind of squish up is amazing.

Know that they sit there flat for it, and he scores. He comes to bash to the beach, climbs to the top back right there. That right there is what is probably what I love these days about wrestling the most is that despite you know, the stiff shots that Vader was known for, you trusted him enough that when he did something like that, you weren't gonna fucking die, because really you should shot. That's probably why WWF. Yeah, maybe Freddy land on him. Maybe because he wasn't uh the

I guess. I mean he certainly did land it. He certainly fucking did it.

Landed on his feet a couple of times, even landed on his feet.

I don't remember that at all. That's crazy.

Yeah, I think in the flag match against the Hearts, he does it. It's our foundation. So Race gets up top because they just basically even though Guardian Angel get hit with the moon salt, he certainly doesn't sell it like he's dead.

He's right back up.

Race gets up top and Gorilla gets Grilla pressed off the top rope because hardly Race came here to bump as well.

Uh.

Guardian Angel clotheslines Vader out of the ring and Race sores to the ropes and bangs his back on the steps on the way down. They had the steps kind of center to the apron right there in the isisleway. Yeah, a couple of guys take that bump, and Race is one of them. Guardian Angel out Jode Jackson. Vader hits Race back in suplex.

What the fuck? I mean, what the fuck is that about?

There?

It's like taking he's taking sick fucking.

You don't even see him, like he just fucking He's just doing it. But he just doesn't care.

If they're They're like, I'm sorry, but this just proves he has a problem, really really does. This is like the ultimate example. He has got a real addiction when it comes to bump. Really. You know, most people want to you know, take a bump off their fucking you know, off their thumb or whatever. But he wants to take a bump up for his fucking life.

Hogan's here, I'm gonna show him show a bump.

Oh my god, I've been bumping my whole life.

Dan at the bar afterwards, Flers either hardly took more bumps in the organ.

And he did, damn right, I did. I always bomp, I bump more than holding more more than anybody. I'm gonna bump, bump bump life.

With someone in front of me who bumps more than I do. I dare you, and I'm.

Gonna bump, bump, bump, mamma, bump bump, king the king bump fu so uh working on it.

Guardian Antel souplexx Vader in from the apron big heavy lift on the impact hits him, bangs innovator. Vader backs into the referee ref sells the shoulder as if he's had his shoulder separated here by touching Vader. H Harley races that hands Vader the night stick baton, the one that flicks out when you flick your wrist yes, and Ventor goes, what the hell is that Vader's holding it up and Guardian Angel punches the shit out of Vader. Tony says, it's those I've never heard of this term.

Whatever he said? Gorilla gorilla telescopic telescopic telescopic. I don't know if that makes any sense. It does well because it extends like a top.

Oh yeah, telescopic. Yes, that is what I meant to type, thank you. Yes, the e was left over from those. So Guardian Angel has that telescopic night stick, looks to the crowd.

They go nuts.

They want him to use it. The raff is like, what is that? And before he can even use it, he calls for the bell and that's our finish. In seven minutes fifty eight seconds, Vader defeats the Guardian Angel by disqualification. Here Patched at the Beach nineteen and ninety four, Tony. He didn't even hit him with it. He's a Guardian Angel in Vader.

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After the Bill clips him from behind, Valariat and then leaves, and Guardian Angel gets right up and resumes arguing with the referee. I don't know, kind of a shit show to me. I'm surprised that Vader perceived this as improving his lot. I mean, he was doing well, crazy things, but it's a mess.

They did better later on. I mean they had a couple of other matches and there, and they were better. This was not their best.

Oh.

I just felt like it was kind of haphazardly going from crash course a crash course, a crash course.

But yeah, I mean I agree.

So Race is cackling in the eye along with Vader.

Van because they would I know, I know they would do. Was it a three way at Yes? No, No, it wasn't a three way It wasn't a three way at at the three way at.

Fall brawl, him and him and Sting and Trailer, Him.

And Sting and Trailer.

But it was.

It was, uh, the two of them again at Halloween Havoc, which was better. That was better their Halloween Havoc match, Vader and Garden Angel.

He's probably congealing all of them together in his memory too. Tony says he's the Guardian Angel again. He declined to use the object, so that's that's key, and uh yeah, Ventur agrees it's referees discretion, even though it's even though the object was simply in Guardian Angel's hand and the ref didn't see him use it. It still grounds for disqualification,

That's right.

He comes in. I Ranton and Raven, but you can't hear him. They got him on mute. You can tell he's causing chaos on the I mean, listen, listen, you let that man in, You're in for trouble, all right. He's he's not gonna follow Anyone's not gonna rest until what he's I mean, someone, someone's gotta be. Someone's gotta have one foot in their grave before he's done. Then it'll be happy. Someone needs to be near death, and it needs to be because of him. They need to

I remember all this. It's it's funny to me because I I knew all the recap because of because of Halloween havoc, because I've seen Halloween havocs so many fucking times. Yeah, as far as I watched it so many times, and so yeah, like I I've seen like they would recap the whole fucking thing all the way back to to what we're talking about here right before what you just did. Yeah,

It was very much out of the you know, the Dusty Saving Flare in eighty five and they closed the cage door on them and fuck them over anyway kind of psychology. So that's, uh, that's pretty much that we do have to deal with this. I don't know what this is about. It must have been for the local promotion. I'm sure it was for the show. They cut some kind of deal with a show that I guess was prominent on FM radio the end of the time, called

Named Ron Dias, Ron Diass, Yeah, very.

Fast, Eddie and Fez Watley, Molly McShane the wrestlers is involved female wrestler and they're empty seats in the front row. Jimmy Hard is the referee. They would do these like Man Cow and a couple Bubba. They would just, you know, in exchange forgetting promotion for the show on the most listened to Drive TOFF radio show, they would allow the DJs to do fucking matches in the dark match.

It's really stupid.

But why they put it on the pay per view Maybe that was part of the deal.

I don't know. Yeah, I have no clue.

They're running into each other, barely doing anything, and they roll up Molly McShane, who was a wrestler for the one two three, with Ron Diaz in her corner and Jimmy Hart raises her hand. All I can tell you about Ron and Ron is this letter that was printed in the Tampa Bay Times in nineteen ninety three before they were back on the air missing Ron and Ron. This is from Al Sason clear Water regarding the Rod and Ron morning radio show. So Ron and Ron is

It's crazy, it's just yeah, awful.

And Toura thinks Tony could have beaten the Sassy Boys who were in the match. Would you be tag team partner? Get Lois. He says that Tony Giavanni's wife, who now has become kind of a cult figure.

In her own right, do a shout I know it, so that's really funny.

A shout outs on Tony's podcast, I would have no clue watching in nineteen ninety four.

Who the hell?

Yes, he was talking. No gat Lois shoes better. It's the Kid of the Kid now on the Apron with one of those ron shirts, and Tony thanks them for helping promote Bash of the Beach and says the time has come for the tag team the grudge match, if you will. Bunk house Buck shows up with the trailer and the septic tank. He's going to dump in the city storm drain in in National Lampoon's cristification. I mean, he looks exactly like Oh he.

Does look like because he looks like fucking Randy. That's got to be what they were going for with this look, man, because it's too spot on. I mean, I I really I never thought that until watching this show, and I wrote that that's crazy. I wrote down that he fucking bunk house Buck looks like Randy Quaid.

Just think, especially like Randy Quaid. Then on this one for us both in isolation to think of it. Yeah, so yeah, Terry Funk comes out crazy as fuck, threatening a backhand fans and that that a Chris guy from the Garden is there, the Vlad's buddy. They cut to him several times playing his role. Now that I realize and know to look for him, this resting fan from Manhattan. Every time they cut to Summer holding up a page of the WCW magazine, it happens to be him. I'm like, Okay,

Did you know?

That doesn't look like he's on the juice? But it does surprise he didn't. I'm said, he didn't have that song this time. He's got the natural song. They call him not true, not drue, they do. They call them unnatural, unnatural. They should have they should have had him have that same theme song when he came out of gold dust. That's a great idea, first time idea, arn Anderson. The only thing he's missing is a thermost and he'd be ready to put in a fucking eighteen hour trucking shift.

Oh, that's the one. That's the one that was this one hour thing. It wasn't an noch, it was it was this thing.

I can see you looking for that one much more than I can see. You try to find the Enoke match. Yeah, I was like, those are seventy Terry Funk is impossible. He had the world title and you can hardly find any defenses.

I know he did wrestle Funk. I did find him Jesse Wrestling, but not not to not to a draw. He Funk won two out of three falls. Oh really and the one that I yeah, the one that I found it was I think it.

Was him going around the country defending the WA world title. That's that was right, and go right to Don Owens. It's pretty wild and I'd love to see that match actually see how that worked back then, I know. So Double A and Buck lock up, break Funk standing on there a rope barking at arn Anderson. Is that the best you got? Trying to get in his head? Buck wants Dustin roads, so Double A obliges. Dustin comes in, throwing like crazy and knocks down Bunk house Buck and

Let's not forget.

Fucking uh king Tonga body slamming John's stule.

Right here.

Lock up to the rope, s Terry Funk chipping away, elbow to the head, to the gut, winding big time shots, slams Dustin down on the canvas. There's a headlock push off and a tackle down goes Dustin Rhoades get up. Terry screams as he hits the rope, screaming get up the whole time while he's in motion. It's fucking funk. And then Dustin Rhodes meets him with slams. He slams buck and tosses Terry right out of the ring. Checks the referee before he goes out after him.

That's that's over the top rope, right, is that when we sends him over the top. I didn't know if it was top rope or not. Well, because they do have the you know, you know, Jesse's not a fan of that. He goes over the top rope and the referee doesn't do nothing.

Yes, shut up, yeah, shut up?

Over the.

Right up to the one.

Now come, you're up yelling no somebody, Well, any time it happens to your favorites, you sit.

And yell about it.

Now, when Dustin Rhodes doesn't, you say nothing.

I think the special circumstances dictate.

And you call me a politician, yeah you oh yeah, right, special circumstances dictate.

It, Celco.

He's such a trick. Oh god, special circumstances dictator.

There's not anything you can say he's Jesse Ventura that he won't turn around and say in that exasperated tone of.

Voice, oh he's gonna buy the salary. It's like, yeah, like that.

You told me last week. He doesn't like buying, and now he's is he buying Celery? Now, come on, when he's not gonna buy it? But the second he buys it. There's a problem. So then he says, oh, special circumstances dictated. He fuck YOSHEV. We're gonna make exceptions now in an equal country. I thought all men were created equal under God. I guess the Declaration of Independence of the Bill of Rights doesn't mean anything.

Do you Hey, what happened to due process?

I have it?

Do you have it here in the w c W I have Tony, I got my union. I got my union. I don't need your union, Tony, I've got mine.

Me.

Jesse says the Screen Actors Guild. Does that mean Dusty the wily veteran doing that with the referee not looking? And does it make him a wily veteran? And Tony says, sometimes, you know, you got to do what you got to do. A man's got to do what a man's got to do. And Vandora says, I just want you to remember that quote Shavani Shivani's thing in the back of his head. You're not long for this world, Jess, So I'll be glad to keep it in right.

Uh.

Funk and Dustin mixing it up, lock up, Funk to the waistlock Dustin hits atomic to both members of the opposition, and Irish whips bunk House Bunk into Terry Funk in the corner and then it lands a downtown right hand and then a snap mare and an elbow drop by Dustin. Rhodes goes back to the headlock standing, but Funk lifts and dumps Dustin tough with a high backsuplex. So let's not forget under the lapsed Funk history here that this

To take in w CW. I mean, look, I mean, I don't know, I don't know what the fuck he's thinking. I don't know why he's doing that. But man, flight of stairs, it is like, you know, and these are wooden so sharp edges, they don't they don't look like they've been well sanded, you know. I just I mean, and that ain't nothing to what fucking steamboat does. It's nuts.

Yeah, those steps are fucking steps tempt people to do things. So funks on him in the aisle, goes unto the rail men. Tauris's Funk will wrestle in the ring if the ring happens to be there, and to cries all the garbage that Johnny b Bad left out at ringside looks like they're wrestling in a garbage bit. He says, whatever a garbage pit is. Uh, Funk kicks the ribs.

Hey, it looks like they're wrestling in a garbage pit. You have one of those in your backyard shown the Minnesota thing, Jess Tony, what are you saying about Minnesota? You're talking trash. That's funny, you talking garbage pit about Minnesota, you bitch.

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You fucking bitch, Funk, you fucking bits the ribs of Dustin. Rhodes rolls him back into Bunk house Buck, who rains down punishment. Buck digging knees into the kidneys of Dustin roads and a camel clutch is applied and he abandons it and starts pulling at the hair. Buck then slams Dustin and stomps him, puts the abdominal stretch on funky yanks on Buck's arm for some extra leverage from the apron. Bunk actually waves in Terry and he clubs him. Does

Yep, yep.

Terry Funk with a hangman's new neck breaker, rocks Dustin roads on a delay, gets a two count, then as a pile driver, spiking Dustin into the canvas, and another one with a great delay by the Funker. He knew how to throw those pile drivers like he really had to struggle.

To get you out, you know, just brutal. Yep, absolutely and double.

He does get in and peel Funk off on the cover, back up, headlock, push off tackle. Dustin goes down. Terry hits the ropes all wobbly legged and falls off towards Bunk house Buck and then flails like a fish to make the tag. What a pro Terry Funk is. Buck gets his job. He's just making every step count. You can't take your eyes off the ring when he's in there doing his thing. Bunk house Buck comes in Funk still spelling all over the floor.

At ringside.

Dustin hits Buck, who swings at the wind, regains and dodges back after him, goes back after him, and he rams Dustin into the corner. Funk holds Dustin open and Bunk goes to work on dust in front, face locked by Bunk house Buck, trying to prevent Dustin from making any kind of attag. Buck tags Terry Funk, who gets all over dustin Roads again. DOUBLEA comes in and grabs the ref, like what the hell is going on here?

He's a fucking He's a fucking man. I think that's the take home point. He's a fucking man.

Irish whip Funker goes up and over in a high backdrop courtesy of Dustin Roads, who whips Buck in and sends him over to he runs Terry Funk into bunk house. Terry's walking around like a broken toy in there, flip flop and fly from Dustin and tribute to his daddy to Terry Funk clothesline. Butck goes up and over the top rope, Terry sitting Duck in the center of the ring and Irish whip and Dustin hits a jumping clothes line,

And then what does he do? Then? What does arm do? As only let's let's let's let's just listen to it, okay, and.

D Dustin.

Jesse with a good cell there, ye aren't just DDT's the fuck just gets in there like he's like he's got the fists up, he's ready to go. And then he just immediately without any kind of breaking the plane, any kind of change in his countenance, he's turns around and DDT's dustint like that's gonna happen now, God damn it,

Oh, I know right, trying to keep it's just the whole thing is just fucking crazy.

I love doing it, also half doing it to keep the ref out of their business.

Uh.

Finally, things don't calm down until fucking Greg Gania in a suit hits the ring. That's all of a sudden.

I mean that is him, right, That's that is what I saw. Yeah, he was one.

He's working as an agent back then. Can you imagine?

I mean, just just seeing him come out just makes me fucking just wamp wamp, you know, I know he seriously is. He's such a fucking Debbie downer just seeing him exist as a Debbie Downer and.

Tour says, and here he was your hero before tonight, Shavanni orn Anderson was. There's one guy jumping like crazy heat.

He was one of your favorites, but not anymore.

So great, Hey, when they replay the turn, you can see one guy right next to the aisle just jumping up and down. He's so excited and aren't turned on Dustin And uh, that's great. Steff Tony says, was he bought off or something? And the nice jaws. Serendipity is they use the shark transition effect there.

It's true. That is true.

In the aisle, perhaps one of the most disgusting, despicable things I have ever seen. Greed has had to have reared.

It's ugly.

Had something is a miss Arn, who do you think you are? You want to talk to me? Come back to the party. Arn says, we're celebrating right now. Jane just gives up. Jeane says a bunch of words, a true word salad, and pitches to Tony.

He's such an he's so fucking crazy.

Tony says, possible broken arm. Here we're dealing with. He mentioned Hank, Aaron who gives some waves to the people and has no problem with what he just saw. He tells everyone he's enjoying himself very much.

They ask him here, this is just fucking great. He doesn't even know who's wrestling Hank. Karen does not give a shit.

Hank, thanks for being here.

I tell you, we're seeing some great action tonight.

It's like there and I'm enjoying myself very much.

In just a few moments, Rick Flair and Halkoga the match everybody's been waiting for, who you think's gonna win.

I don't know. I'm pulling for both of them, no doubt. Hank's gonna run.

For president in four years.

That's right.

I'm a great politician.

Well, Hank, it's always good having you with us here.

Thank you gram so much. And I'm sure everybody's enjoying themselves. I'm happy to be thank you very much.

Heyk Karen the all time home run champion with us here. That's one of our many celebrities on hand.

So so hit her.

He didn't try to do what he can.

Dude, come up, say Hulk Hogan, how hard is that governor of Maryland? You should have used him for this? Seriously, Tony plugs fall brawl with the tank and everything and the match beyond, and they they promise it's going to be part of it again this year. As Heenan goes on to say the Dustin Rhodes had it coming and he should Terry and Company should have beat the whole family up. And Dusty's going to bring the pickup truck. And he says, Dusty, bring the pickup truck and take.

Your kid home. And Tony brings up a good point. Boss.

He says, what do Dustin Roads and Molly McShane have him come in this particular evening, and probably Missy Hyatt?

What is it?

I don't remember they took on two men at one time. Oh, brother Gene is with Flair, with Sherry as well. She's sensuous, by the way, not scary anymore.

No, no, yes, she's definitely the sensuous Sherry.

He's got the black gloves and the face paint now and Slair's got the big gold belt.

How about double A? Is he back? Rick says? I guess he is? Oh, here, here we go.

Let's listen to Flair, all right, Tony Schavani, I'm with Censure with Sherry and the TUBBEDYCW heavyweight Champion of.

The world with a big smile, a big grin on his face.

Rick Clair, how about double A?

How about it?

Is he back? I guess the Dustin Rhodes. What's he gonna do with double A? Runs wild?

You've got other things to contemplate tonight the biggest match of your career, Rick Clair, There is no doubt about it. Standing pie on the wings to challenge you for this title. It's none other than Haulkogan.

I walked in the door, they said, Natum, rick as Ow standing room only, Dusty Hogan and Flair go at it for this, I said, boys, that's just.

The way the hookster and the next.

You want waters, we want it sold out, we want it live, We want a worldwide.

Dignitaries from all points of the world are here.

And Noocchi, Hey, Garon Herbard, Hey, Thankes, Sjaq, you and the they're all here.

But to the why, because the greatest of all time is gonna walk do aisle and tonight the importal ones because history rites.

Said to us one.

Yes, right, Gene Oakland.

For years and.

Years you've been saying to be the man, you got to beat the man.

Rick Flair is always the man. Rick Flair has nothing to prove.

You, Hulk Hogan are the challenger.

You, Hulk Hogan, are the one that had a failing career. You Hulk hogans have to beat the man to be the man.

We are lives right, kiss Stealing Wheeling, Galas win us and Champions of the w C.

Yeah, thank you very much.

It's great promo. It is a good promo. Excited.

That's the kind of thing they should have put on TBS before the show. Yeah, agreed, So steamboats music hilarious. I know his w W music is very odd hard it'djust to yeah, no, man, hold on, I can do. I gotta I listen to it because it's it has a it's very it is very weird here. I guess it's called opening ceremony.

Monimaima boom boom boom MANI bom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom ba boom boom boom boom boom boer purper bo bur purperer bo.

Boom.

It's weird. Yeah, it's a manimum. It takes a lot to get used to. Yeah, it's not it's not, it's not very This is a.

Point when you know he's fucking Ricky steamboat. He was Ricky Steamboat to the Max in eighty nine. For you guys, he was Rocky Steamboat to the Max in mid Atlantic before ever going to events. You don't have to have him come back wearing the fucking dragon costume.

I mean, look, i'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. I I don't mind the wings as long as he's not wearing the fucking headdress. The headdress is really the worst.

Like that.

I mean, it's it's weird, like he's bringing his WWE thing. Basically, it's very it's very pathetic. It's kind of like bringing ray trailer in calling him the boss. It's like, really, I know, I mean it's it's just it's weird that he's you know, they're bringing in like everything. But because he's he wears the shoulder things, he wears the little medallion on the on the chest. He's just not wearing the stupid fucking hat, which I'm grateful for because the

Yeah, I like him too. But he's got the torch. He's blowing fire. It's worldan what it's concerning, Tony says, fitting on a night like this, that Ricky steamboat get a title shot. That guy from New York I mentioned from before, He's got the Steamboat magazine, page wide open for the cameras, and Ricky does the fire breathing, and I don't know if Bonnie's at Ringsidne. I don't know if he's still even with her at this point, but they kind of cut to somebody makes me think it's

Pank sing kang kang.

Ye?

What a walk? What a hair? What ahead of hair he's got? He's you know, the Austin Steamboat feud one of the most memorable. I mean because this is when I I said, this is when I started watching WW much more regularly, and so this was the feud this was for me. Austin Steamboat is one of the w CW feuds, no question, you know, quintessential yep, And it was. And I love their matches and yeah, it's really it's this few that made me a fan of Steve Austin.

Yeah, this is what puts on display how much of a three tool blayer he was? Five tool whatever I'm going to say, Yeah, yeah, really great stuff. Title on his waist US title smirk, the eyes wild to like kind of just trying to picture his hair being shaved off. This is actually, you know, I thought of stunning. Steve Austin is just appearing so visually distinct from Stone Cold. But when I watched this, I like, I can see him maybe it's gonna get the black trunks on.

He's also got a little bit of that Stone Cold swaggers is what it is. Yeah. Yeah, he's kind of doing a little bit more of that. He's he's not just you know, the the you know, pretty boy character. He's a little bit more badass, like I don't give a shit. Yep.

Yeah.

And for him, as we know, it would only be a matter of time before the FedEx envelopes in the mail from Bischoff and he is fired amidst an injured arm and all kinds of static And this is, you know, no excuses. He's he's he's performing his ass off. He's got the black trunks look down. At least he's got the rap going. You know, if you didn't see money in Steve Austin, then you probably don't deserve to have a decision making position in the wrestling business.

You shouldn't be what exactly you should not be behind the scenes wrestling because this he's he looks like a'm fucking money player here. Yep.

Absolutely, and you know it would it would follow Austin as far as how he felt about Hulk Cogen. It starts here and it carries all the way to O two when they refused to work with him when he came in. Yeah, they're vitalized, nWo. And all those years later, Hulk sits down with a stone cold for his podcast and Austin traces it right back to ninety four.

You're immediately you know, you don't need to be shined up. But I mean, in theory you're the baby face, but but you don't need to be shined up. You're fighting from underneath the entire match.

It made sense.

It was there from the moment we walked in the rings, such as it would have been there if you would have ever wrestled me. That's what would have happened. It would have been we could have looked at each other and the roof would have blown off the place. You were so over at the time, and they hated me so much from trying to put w W out of business for ten years. They would have been great. But I'll get off that now. We'll get that's in my craw brother, that I never got to work with you, dude.

I was in such a different headspace back when that window of opportunity presenting yourself, and sometimes I kicked myself in the ass over it. And I think, man, I don't know, I just kind of I was so frazzled towards the end. I was just in a bad space and I don't know, I just it never happened, and

To w CW.

And I'm thinking, great. And you know, I'm sitting there right across from you, wearing your house and I say this with respect because I've respected your career, but I'm thinking, Okay, here comes the top of traction in the world. He's coming to w c W. I was fine when you were in WWL, but all of a sudden you come down there, and now I'm another nice father down the letter. And I always had this grudge against you because now

So there was always that grudge, and it was competitive.

I was like, man, why is this guy here?

Now? Well, I know why you're here.

Now, you know, in retrospect, when I look when I look back, but when you're in the trenches and you're in the ring here and there's that competitive part. You watch NBA players or Major League Baseball players, NFL players talk about another player, they'll they'll put them over to a degree, but it's never very much because it's so competitive. The same with our business. Just back when I was

High spot artist.

You know, that was my perception back in because I couldn't put him over then, and so anyway, it was always this thing. And then all of a sudden I turned into stone cold, and then you come back from w CW where I got squashed down another notch. But I think if we'd have ever gotten to a room and had a just a chill conversation, we probably could have done business together, and that'd probably be one of the I guess it is one of the biggest regrests of my career.

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So he says a lot there, basically, you pissed you pissed me off, and that's why I didn't want to work with you.

But uh, what could have been?

I mean, I know, if he could have, if he could have lobbied to work with he had been like a like a Paul Orndorf opponent to hul Coke, and potentially I feel.

Like, oh yeah, oh in uh in in w c W. Absolutely yeah, absolutely, I mean that that would have been. That would have been huge, huge, But I for everybody, you.

Know, Hacksaw Jim Duggan's attached to Hull Cochin at the hip from the very beginning on this show. He's one of the people that welcomes Hulk in the back. And it would be Hacksaw Jim Duggan that would totally run over Steve Austin in four seconds to take this US title from him. And that's when we knew it was curtains for Steve.

Yeah, but the.

Drama follows the drama that starts here in nineteen ninety four between Hull Coke and Steve Austin. Most of course on the Steve Austin side. I'm sure Hulk big league Steve just like a big league just about anybody else that was perceived as you know, being upper crust before he got there. We go to WWF and it still doesn't happen.

A lot of people don't realize that certain.

This is Hulk trying to explain why people would have felt like he big leagued them, but of course he had no He's just you don't know what's going on in hul Cochin's head. He's got a lot of stresses going on.

A lot of people don't realize that certain You got to treat people on a case by case basis, and certain people have a grudge or a heart on, or they don't misunderstand, or they're out of their mind, or they're consumed with something because it could be business or personal, or a lady could drive you crazy your fee. You

Time, you know.

So I went to the WWE and I knew I was working with the rock. I'm all about making the money, brother, and as a heel. I could put anybody over and go back the next week, say stone Hold never beat me. I mean I could lie in my ass off. So and so when I got the reaction I had with the rock, my sites were set on you.

Of course they were.

But now Steve is in the position to flip it around on you from what you did in WW and so fuck you. How about that exactly? That's what happens.

You made your pal.

And the fact that Austin dude people to do that too. I make Heathers Clem's bed. But and the fact that Hulk Cogin's in ming WWW. Steve Austin is cooking with a Rickeys steamboat and underneath this just.

Fascinating to me.

Oh yeah, he attacks a steamboat from behind as steamboats just getting ready and getting his gear off and hauling off of those wide right hands. His stunning Steve, Oh yes, he is good. Throw from way downtown and.

Again just totally underrated as this as this particular character.

Absolutely driving his knee into the draped knee of Ricky steamboat steam but of course comes back with chops.

Out of the corner. You know the drill.

You know, a steamboat comes back against the ropes. Austin has dragon Slayer written on white letters and his black trucks.

I love the dragon Slayer and Tights give it to me all day, every day, twice on Sunday, you mother fucking bit love it.

Austin keeps sick, sticking the knee, kicking the knee out when Steamboat tries to launch a comeback, step over toe hold kind of deal, and Steve Austin gets kicked off into the ring post, and Tony is ticking off all the titles that Steve Austin has won.

Oh this is no, no, no, it's it's what Steamboats won. This is fucking hilarious. Fucking Heaton chimes in.

Steamboat's first title was the television title, and he bet Rick Flair.

To become the television champion years ago. He's been the World heavyweight champion.

Eight times, the World tag team Champion, US Champion on many occasions.

Who he hit the ring posts? One of the greats in our sport.

What do you do right?

Resumes for Steamboat.

No.

How defeated is no?

Oh my god, he's so defeated, says He's saying all these things for the benefit of fans watching for the first time. So there course telling themselves that a lot of people are watching for the first time. You know, they might be watching WCW for the first time, but I don't think they're completely unfamiliar with Rickey Steamboat.

I could be wrong, Yeah, yeah, I mean they should know who, you know what Rocky Steamboats at.

Any fan that Hulk brings w Stebby for the first time is gonna know who Rocky Steamboat is. So Steamboat walks the ropes and rains down an ax handle and slams Austin on the hammer lock. Tony says that our Colonel Parker was, of course, formally Steve Austin's Managerbert Parker thought he was best suited Austin was to be on his own. So that's that's interesting. I never really sat sat and thought about how those two separated, and I guess there wasn't anything formal or a big angle or anything.

I guess to the corner they.

Go, Austin hits the gut back yelbow, Steamboat chops out of the corner. Austin goes to the middle rope inverted, and Steamboat hits a drop kick, and Austin gets hung upside down on the rope. Steamboat goes to the floor and slams the right hand and steve Austin's head. Austin can't go anywhere. He's trapped in the tree of woe. And then Austin, even here hits the.

Ca a weird one. It's weird. It's over the apron right right, good point, like it's not it's not the tree of woe like normal. It's like he's outside the ring. It's very bizarre.

He's very much in a tree of woe. Yes, oh yeah, we can lowercase the term. And Austin is flailing about, even hits the cameraman and makes it foggy and streaks the lens a little bit because he's flailing about so much. And then Austin gets the referee and stumbles down into the robes with no control whatsoever. Steamboat tucks in a book or t like standing sidekick, and then h's an

We talked about that. Just physically it's important. I mean, listen, you need to get the blood flowing. Ye okay, that's what matters his whole coach.

He says he understands that hul Coging's dressing room right now was jammed with security. Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me at all.

He says.

There's got to be five hundred people back there. Yeah, most of them are signed to one for sting. Austin tries to leap frog and collapses, clutching the knee that had been worked on, and Tony recognized it is an old Hollywood blonde trick to pretend to feign a knee injury, and indeed he was right. He says, they should give him a twenty minute rest here for the.

This is fucking great.

That's an old Hollywood blod trick.

We Steamboat doesn't realize that.

Now.

The fans here no why he was just hung upside down while the pressure was on his knee.

Now they should give him about a twenty minute rest here.

Yeah, what why it happened outside the ring?

Okay, Hemp and outside the ring it makes sense, I agree.

Steamboat says fuck it and stops taking it easy and stomps him in the corner. Austin talking up a storm. In the process, Colin spots hip toss drop kick. Austin falls to the floor and Flare flops down on the outside. He is pointing to his knee indicating it it's hurt. He says he's not playing possum. His knee is hurt, and Austin stands and does a time out gesture.

I think that was Ruth.

Blay on the hardcam side. Later on, Hulk does say, indeed his parents were in attendance, and I think you catch a quick glimpse of them here. At this moment, Austin drags Wicky Steamboat out, chip away, and Tony starts and chops away, and Tony starts going okay, now, as they're hitting hard and Steamboat chops, he says it must be a trick mee on Steve Austin, that's right, Trickney. As Austin runs like a cry baby back into the ring with absolutely no mobility problems whatsoever. And uh he's

That's that's all we dream about. Okay, that's all we ever wanted. We wanted in Austin who could be a bad ass but also do the fucking work that he was doing during this time. This is this is the magic. This is where it all fucking mattered. He was the most to appreciated member of the roster in many ways. I might disagree with that. I don't care. I think he was totally just misused in w CW he could

Are you excited when he came over as ringmaster?

Fucking thrilled, thrilled. I when I saw him, when I when I recognized that it was Steve Austin, I said, holy shit, the earliest boss index here, all right, I said, now that we're because because because this was one of the first times in a long time that a w CW guy came over w W A, yeah, I said, we got him now, Steve Austin.

Steve Austin such as he was then, fucking fucking.

Ring Master Steve Austin. I was like, all right, because because you know, with Hogan gone, I mean I even I did sense like I had fear, you know, because as much as I was happy to see Holkogan, I was still thrown through a WW guy. You know, that was my home and so without without Hogan there, it still made me nervous, you know. But when Steve Austin came over in ninety five or early ninety six, whatever it was, I was like, yeah, okay, all right, we're

I mean, after a savage you know, it's like in Boss Man and stuff, It's like, yeah, this is just like they're all abandoning me, hacksaw.

Right exactly, like everyone's going over there right. It was a very you know, it was very hard because I'm like, these are guys who are supposed to be WB guys. Right, like, what's happening here? Why is everyone leaving me?

Took it very per and you thought, wwfoot, there must be something wrong with them. They can't attract any anybody right and right and not only here. And what he does with this opportunity changes everything forever. Austin, Austin, Austin, Okay, yes, not very complicated. It's not the answer to most questions you have about the business, Austin. Yes, So he runs over the drop down twice and into the sleeper hold.

They took w's slogan, okay, and they said what the world is watching now?

Because if WWF is what the world was watching when hul Cogan was there, and we have hul cog and it only makes sense.

I'm just thinking you will say, what the world's washing?

Brother, It's just say back in New York, brothers, what the world's watching. We'll guess what, brother, w W that's what the world's watching now, dude, I.

Mean, I'm washing it.

What so.

Bigs here his hair like moving when he when he goes right exactly to the corner of Austin kicksteam boat and the balls. Uh, he didn't say, there goes that trick knees trick.

Me, my god, the fucking trick me every fucking time.

And sometimes it goes the other way. Sometimes it goes to the side.

You never know what something like that.

Austin hits a high back. Suplex says, my arm is starting to feel a little better. He says that out loud, which is funny. Tony's like the knee. Huh, how about the knee? He didn't says, you never know when that will that'll flare up again. It's keeping that in his back pocket. Oh god, I just I just love him whipping back fantastic.

Hilariat.

Ricky steamboat keeps bouncing up and Steve Austin keeps knocking him down. Steamboat gets up and rolls out through the ropes, over the steps to the floor. Another guy using the steps there, everyone doing that bump.

Tonight everyone, I mean that fuck and again I think I think steamboat doing it was just ridiculous, and.

He Steamboat didn't miss a step. That is true to the apron.

They go.

Austin with a high vertical suplex brings Steamboat back in the hard way for two backsuplex, Steamboat lands gooseles and throws Steve Austin down to the canvas. That was always great when steamboat just exploded and just snatched it by the throat and showed unlikely strength. Stacks him up to steamboat after the impact and gets to Heenan lets out a ha at the prospect of Austin nearly losing.

What a powerful thing.

Bobby Heenan with the flare style rooting interest for Steve Austin.

Yes, only makes sense. I mean it does. It does make sense. I mean it makes it. You know, you wonder did it has something to do with the idea that he was being ex Rick Flair the right the next Ric Flair.

Yeah, I would think so back up on an Irish whip. See b Austin ducks Ricky's team belt with an arm drag, and watch Austin.

To be too.

He's too far from the ropes here for a second. So yeah, I think with heenan relative to the next Wick Flair, I think it's interesting that that point is made because you gotta remember, Hult comes in and undoes all that hype about Flair Austin, Right, It's not like, you know, it's not like only in retrospect we realize he had the potential to be something like that. They were actively saying when he was in WCW that he had that potential, right, and Hogan comes in and big

There, fucking US champion for God's sake, like he was?

He was?

He was it.

Absolutely, he was the guy. Absolutely. If you look closely next to some of the new Japan representatives around Anoch in the audience, you will see in a tuxedo, my friend senior consultant to World Championship Wrestley One, Jimmy motherfucking Barnett.

Really I missed that?

Yes, oh ship hard to spot, but he is there, and he's he's he's observing because Sterling is back.

I'll tell you, I'm so nervous. I can't. Sterling, Oh my god, so long. You look so good. You look fantastic. Can I touch? Did you lean out? You're looking finn but in a good way. Don't get me read I'm wrong. I don't know you eat? Are you eating food? It's hot, Sterling. I'll tell you. You know here we are right, you know were we're sitting in the w C W and I just I can't handle it. I just can't. They want me, you understand, they're asking me to book. I

So with Steamboat driving these into the arm on the canvas. They do it over the shoulder shot of Tony and Heenan calling the action, and Tony points out that's the brain, by the way, because they can see themselves on the monitor, and Heenan says, and that's the other part of the anatomy. And you can see Tony's shoulders shaking with a chuckle even though.

It's backs to the car.

My god, that's fantastic, Tony says. Ricky Steamboat likes matches to go long time because he's got the conditioning edge. He's got conditioning, unlike this crowd. They're boring. Chances starting to trickle through.

They're wrong.

It'll obliged to mention that they're wrong. They're dead wrong.

But you heard them right, not just shaking them up. Yeah, no, I know back.

They don't understand what they're watching. That's the problem.

There, you go, Austin pushes off Ricky Steamboat into a tackle up and over and they do it this disaster. They just cross each other up. It looks bad, really bad. And then Austin's going up for a leap frog and Ricky is jumping too at the same time. That's just the spot I'm talking about and they collide in mid motion and Austin kind of flops down and Steamboat he

Of course, that's exactly what you would do.

It's what he does for jackknife cover from Steamboat that gets too body slambery ricky Steamboat and he soars with a cross body for two. Then we have Steamboat hits uh Steve Austin lifts him. It's a huge spinebuster, almost like the one Hardcore Holly used to do. Interestingly enough, don't remember.

That we that yeah he yeah, he lifts them up and then yeah, like like it's a standing spinebuster maneuver of sorts.

Remember him doing that, but that got the reaction that gets them back into it. That's how impact stuff. Austin to the bottom rope and lifts a finger at him. You can hear this female voice. She's close to a hot mic. I don't know who she is or why he can hear her, but all I can hear her say is, I think everyone's wrestling for Antonio. Everyone's wrestling for Antonio.

I was thinking the same thing.

It's somebody calling them out for you know, they're just doing a match that is supposed to get them booked in New Japan as opposed to a match for the people here in Orlando. I think that that's what I interpreted that remark to be, which look is probably a fair comment because some of these people are shitting on the match in the building, but they just keep going.

It's so funny. I mean, look, he's the best. That's right, all right, there's a reason why he is the best.

All the while, ricky steam all the wild ricky steamboats doing the cell job that he learned from boxers, where he's like barely on his feet waving Austin on, like come on, bring it, ye Austin with some chops. Steamboat with a shove, barely standing, Austin staying on him. Rickey chops double leg catapult, Austin eats it in the corner and falls back into a cover by steamboat for two back up and Austin explodes with a falling larry At catching him. Very nice, how Austin cut off the rallying

Will be made.

It's like he got this fucking thing. You got to mention Michael Buffer for no reason right in the middle of this US title match. I wonder who gave that signal from the truck Jesus Christ. Austin gets a two count, turns over Ricky and puts his neck between his ankles and kind of pulls at him. Kind of a weird sequence there. Ricky gets to his knees, climbs up, tries to the electric chair drop on Steve Austin with him on his shoulders, but Austin kind of rams Ricky's head

Tea kettle looks great.

And a nice entangled cradle by Austin, gets those legs all pretzeled in there and gets a two several times he goes for it, and then he goes to the mountain, gets two, grinding his foreum on Steamboat's face, holding down forcefully. Not enough of that in wrestling, grabbing the guy's hands and like, you're not kicking it out.

I mean, it's it's very simple. It's very simple, it's and it's effective. Yes, just fucking do it.

And he's doing it. That only gets two though, over and over again. Finally, Steamboat bridges with Austin on top of him, and Austin goes up and boom comes down. Instead of landing with his shins on a steamboat's gut, Steamboat gets both of his knees and Austin's crotch and then he kicks up with both feet and Austin takes an absolute crazy backwards bump. Is that a that kick off your back like that? That upkick has potential to

They go.

Austin is choking him and runs and sits on a cross Steamboat's back and waves Rocky Steamboat's arm into the camera. He grabs him and turns him into a puppet. Here at bash at the beach, tremendous stuff from Steve Austin. He says, Hi, everybody with the limp wrist and then Steve pulls down his own knee pad. Steamboat turns and hot shots Austin. Kind of that stun gun. Austin's move across the top rope. Boston goes to the apron. They

Back in.

Steamboat climbs with a tomahawk chop, takes them ount rains down right hands big come back here from steamboat back up where Austin goes up and over in the great backdrop.

What a cell job.

Yes, steamboat knocks him down, covers him for two. Austin jabs the eye though and throws steamboat over, and steamboat skins the cat as only he can. Heenan says, a steamboat jumped over, Not that Steve Austin tried to throw him over. So before you go screaming disqualification against Steve Austin. Steamboat gets on him to the corner, chops and then lunges and a backdrop, and again steamboat hangs on, charges in,

I don't know.

If we spend enough time thinking about how it was Steve Austin who was a mark for the spot that paralyzed him at Summer Slam nineteen ninety seven.

Yep, but it's here and all that I was, and I was nervous watching this. I mean, my mind goes right.

There, so nervous. It's summertime after all. Exactly, come on, now.

All the pieces are there, and it's just it's very, very very uncomfortable watching him go for the move, take the move, all of it.

I mean, steamboat just collapses forward and just lets the chips fall where they may. Regarding Steve Austin's head, yes, he doesn't like he doesn't try to spike him straight down. He doesn't try to. He doesn't try to pinch Austin's head between his two kneecaps to prevent, you know, impact, He us.

Goes forward.

He just falls on his knees and whatever happens to that, it's unreal impact. Wild that it was Austin who calls that spot. Yeah, crowd is now fully with it. Seembo climbs the ropes leaps and Austin shoves the ref Aside gets in, the ref gets in his face. Crowd is kind of dead. I don't know, they're not really as alive as they should be at this moment in the contest. I feel like, I don't know if it dragged on

As I I yeah, I don't know what I mean. I didn't really care what they were how they were responding. I was I was just loving it. There's a whole much fucking work rate going on, yeh. I mean, maybe they were a little bit out of juice. From from Marnin Anderson turning right beforehand. Big moment, no bad question. You know, if they're not enjoying their fucking bitches there you go pretty simple.

So the wef is waving like no, and Steamboat holding his arm like don't you weigh this thing off? And then he gets his hands on Austin starts hauling off. Whip is reversed, Austin misses two closed lines. Steamboat is the cross body block, but Austin rolls through one two not enough, shoulder up, and then Austin goes for it again, this time with his leg on the ropes one, two, three, Steve Austin pulling the rugout from under Ricky Steamboat twenty minutes and six seconds to retain the US title.

You see, it's great, Like you know, like again, these these moves, like the finishes here are not being done.

You know.

If you look at like they're they're being done a little more realistic. Yeah, you know, the way that they get the pins, they're they're not they're not slick, They're a little bit clunky, And I think that's great for this. Yes, yeah, I'm with you. It's interesting.

They have this finish, the same finish in the Marrow match. And pretty much the same finish in the cap this match, all three go down to like these these sort of like half hazard cobble together pen attempts and yeah, the guys in the ring are good enough, but exception the folly one, which is god awfuls we'll get too well.

I mean it's also I mean it's it's it's also just ruined by Nick Patrick.

Yeah he doesn't, he never helps. It's just completely ruined. Always a negative.

Yep.

Austin springs out of the ring upon getting the pinfall and goes up with his arms in the air like fuck yeah. Power walks to the back and we go to Tony and Bobby signed behind Tony Hulk who if only they got a Hooters girl there. Chris Cruise is with Roman orndor if Heenan says, is that Chris Cruise or doctor Govorkian? Heenan says, pick me a winner in the next match. He picks Sullivan a cactus check.

I got I got this here for you. Pick me a winner.

Pick me a winner in the next match. Kevin Solomon cactus Jack.

Why do you think that?

Cause they're so unpredictable, there's no way to defend against him, no.

Way to defend against them. It's simple.

You get him at big nice sports what they like, you know, the one that ties behind in the back that they wear so nice, at the nuthouse where they reside.

That's how you beat them.

Then that house where they reside. I love the idea of like the straight jacket. Oh totally, you know, it's such a it's such a I mean, do people even does that even happen anymore? Like that much? The straight chat that I know of? I mean, yeah, like you don't hear about that that much.

That's a kind of an old fashioned thing. And we go back to the packed locker room. Meng and woman are in there, and this is the of course, the stud stables celebrating arms pigre turn. Gene comes in just a second.

Oh man, listen to I got this one. This whole thing like when he when he says he's got like credentials or whatever, just fucking unbelievable.

Hold on my second, mart Anderson, Martin Anderson, I want to get in here.

Wait a minute, I've got credentials. I've got credentials.

I can anywhere in here.

What the fuck, Jean, what the fuck?

Hey?

I want to talk.

This is a private party.

Here's you can see.

We're smoking cigars, drinking beer and frankings.

Champagne hold his glass out for him.

Jean, watch the funer right here.

Huh, we're gonna pump the top hair hot.

Hey, I'm got that on Edison.

Number one man right there, brother, a real gem.

I said, I don't want to talk to Dustin Anderson.

He's a strong thing. Hey, let me say one thing. We was coming back from the ring and this kid leaped over.

He leaned right on to the top of the ray lambs and he came up to me and he dropped to it through and he had me like that.

He said, why did you do that thing? Why did you do that for dozing roads? He's such a great best linger entertainer. And I kicked him away from him.

He's what I couldn't please my ears. I really, he's such a great wrestling entertainment. What the fuck?

Where did that come from?

Terry? I mean speechless, And I said his daddy was to.

Let me try it up before you talk to You know, it's very few times you make an agreement with a man that you could trust.

Him in his honor and I won't say that.

I won't a toast ride now, I won't everybody with the glass in there to toast one of the most honorable finest.

Man, this man right here that just joined our stud stable Bindy and Falsa and the.

Sand or So. I can't believe you.

I tried to talk to you earlier.

That is the most disgusting thing and honest to god, I've ever seen gen o'klin.

Less than a year ago, I was laying in a hospital bed in England.

Beat I trusted, Colonel. I trusted.

I'm sure it's a shit stabbing right right is unbelievable. I forgot he ever made reference to that. Ever once he does it for the sake of the promo, though.

It's unbelievable, playing in a hospital bed beat half to death right down the hall.

For me was my constituent beat half to death? That I thought, for what is he talking about?

Sid to yeh, I don't know what it would be his constituent, but okay, I think I don't think he knows that word means.

Yeah, I'm not a crusader.

I'm not gonna lay up here bete half to death to represent what I think is right, I'm gonna do what I think is a Dustin Rose. I told you if you wanted me to be in the match, you would have to take the old iron Anderson, the old iron Anderson who had smack his benny in the mouth of fifty cent. You said, fine, whatever it takes. Well, Dustin knows you got him to night. You made a pack with the devil, and the devil called his mucker in a little.

Bit, so tell him.

Apparently Prince had been trussed doesn't mean anything in as Cesspool. Let's get back to you, ladies, yourselves.

Beautiful girls like you. Hilarious. I I I love this Arn promo. Good stuff, It's fantastic.

They're choking him with Champagne too while he's talking, to the point it's burning his eyes and he's like trying to force his eyes open but he can't and he has to keep wiping them away, which I think that's a rib like when a guy's on camera. I feel poor Champagne, he's gonna struggle to keep his eyes open. But yeah, I love he just uses the thing like you know, I almost died, so like I'm done worrying about anything but myself. That's my epiphany after being in

I wanna be a comaniac, have fun with my family and friends. Absolutely, I wanna be a co maniac. I can't believe they put that on. I need to take off my pants.

Cactus sticking the tongue through the tooth gap, and Cactus and Celli had beaten the Nasties Slambery for the Tag Team Championships. Tony notes, it was supposed to be Dave Sullivan, not Cactus is the partner, but that's the way it shook out. The fake Hog guy has a Paula sign, which of course was the taunt back then towards Paul Orndorf, and he says that's not Holcoke and that's some idiot. He then says he doesn't think. I don't think Dave knows who Kevin is. Yeah, he doesn't think Kevin knows

What's going on here?

He asked, they don't believe me, do they, I said, sadly, knowing that my question was mettally rhetorical. Of course they don't. Kevin shot back. Rick thinks she did this because he yelled at you about spitting on the belt. He did this, got a doctor's note?

Did this?

Ye?

I was getting hot? Where is he?

I went to a boardroom where Flair was sitting with several other members of the Book and Committee Cactus. Flair began the tone of his voice sounding like trouble to me. Kevin tells me you won't be able to wrestle tomorrow.

Is that true?

Yes, Rick, it is, I answered, Are you sure? He shot back, as if I were on trial? Yes, I am, Rick, I answered again. Now he hit a nerve. I pulled out doctor Armstrong's note and, with more than a little anger in my voice, addressed the nature boy. I've got a legitimate medical note from a respected orthopedic surgeon that tells me I would be risking loss of bowel and

Now.

I've been in some stinkers before, but I always had this feeling inside me that no matter how bad things sucked, I could always somehow pull it out of the gutter. I got that same feeling in Orlando that night as we cluster fucked to a symphony of silence. But I waited on the ring apron until the feeling went away. After twenty two minutes of a match that was about nineteen minutes too long, we dropped the tag team titles to Orndorf and Roma, just as they had so mysteriously

No one knows. It's a shame because I love fucking Pretty Wonderful. Yeah, they're pretty awful here, I think I think Pretty Wonderful is such a great, underrated ww tag team in the mid nineties. But man, yeah, it's just a shit show yep, and a lot of it.

If you don't know Mix hurt, you're really frustrated and confused because so much of the match is Kevin Sullivan throwing these bolo forearms and stiff chops, trying to draw the crowd into the fact that he's really exchanging and hitting hard, and no one gives a fuck. No one cares about Kevin Sullivan's offense yep, And you're like, why

It's very noticeable. Yes, it's starting, very noticeable. Weird' said, Yeah, the air is being let out. That's exactly right. Lock up Ornbro for the arm.

Dragon a pose Sully lighter on his feet than I would have expected, because he's trying to really make this work, knowing Cactus can't do too much.

Oh my god, it's it's it's such a fucking nightmare.

Tag to Cactus and Roma. Roma pinches his nose like, look at this nothing this zero and then look at me, he says. He does the go behind and trips Cactus and gloats, and then goes to the hammer lock and shoves him to the corner and gloats again. They're doing the He's basically Paul Roma doing the endw Dice clay Oh every time he pull something off.

Yeah yeah.

Cactus bites Roma's nose, tags Sullivan push off tackle drop down, Sully goes under the leap frog, Roma ducks the line and then I cactus headbutts to no reaction dropping Paul Roma. Crowd not digging this orangeor fan kicks and punches Sully in the corner. Uh fully threw himself over the buckle to block Sully.

You know, yeah, I like that. I'll tell you what. I'm always a fan of that spot. Yep. People people should do it more often. Yep. You know like the fact that people that that that teammates don't try to block the post the corner. The post is ridiculous.

Absolutely it works here and it's a good move for him to pull out because it's low risk in a moment like this. So Sully chops. Roma tries, but Sully redirects him and fully kicks Roma up on the hammer locked position. Pretty wonderful. Bail out of the ring and fully and Paul Oendorff re engage tackle down goes Orndorf, but he hits a knee lift on the way in and forearms in the corner on fully to the four floor,

I would have loved to have been one of Heenan's aids.

Yes, I know, to be working his sources in the back and to feed information to him. Heenan gets an update and laughs, I guess he has been taken to the hospital. He says, what a piece of shit. He finds that out and laughs, he laughs, I love it. Roma comes in stomping away fully with that. That's a lot of that. Cactus with a head butt out of the as he's backed into the corner. Orndorf makes the blind tag. They double team fully a bit. Nick Patrick presidings,

Tony calls it double coconuts delicious.

Kevin Sullivan drops paul o'dwarf for the right double foot to the gut, gets a two count, you know that little short double foot stomp that Kevin Sullivan used to It gets saved from paul Roma. Cactus whips color Dwarf.

Chris Lemon looks bored out of.

His fucking mind. The older rings I don't wonder what the fuck am I doing.

He's miserable. Well, they cut to Hank Aaron and Bill Shaw and they're just talking. They're ignoring the match. They're just talking to each other. It's fucking hilarious. It's amazing.

It's gonna be a better idea. Can you imagine it being a better idea to cut to two people talking to each other instead of showing what's happening in the room. Cactus with a whip orn Dwarf reverses it, fires out with the back yelbow, Sully bites Orn Dwarf, Cactus hits a head butt, and then they say that Kevin Sullivan ate Orn Dwarf's eyebrow. Okay Enian continues to marvel at the concept that Kevin Sullivan and Cactus have teamwork going on. Here,

There's a so who is so who sitting next to Chris Lemon, Because it's a guy who looks like he's like two people to the left of Chris Lemon glasses on. Yeah, he looks like Danny McBride and the Righteous Gemstones and and uh that. But what really matters is that there's a woman who's sitting next to him who at one point looks like she's sucking his ear. Really, who I missed that. Yeah, it's like she's just like, I don't

The guy with the glasses, those Hollywood glasses, is Howard Hughes. Howard Hughes was Hogan's big attorney.

Howard Hughes.

Yeah, that's his name. It's hard to believe.

It's that's his name. His name is Howard Hughes.

Wow, he is a Hulk's attorney. And then next to him or maybe two people next to him is Peter Young, who was a Hulk Coogan's agent as well as the agent of George Foreman, explaining why those two were together and why, you know, why they work together to promote passion the beach rather easily, and why Hogan can try to credibly claim that he was in line for the George Foreman grill opportunity. That they called Peter Young about him before they called Peter Young about George Foreman.

So yeah, I'm sure they did.

Sure, Yeah, he just wasn't home at the time and they had to move on. They just couldn't they wanted Hogan, But only between the hours of one and three pm do they want Hogan. And then they just stopped watching, and all of a sudden, it would appear so fully clips the face of Paul or Dwarf in the corner, attack to Sullivan, who comes in with right hands and an arm ringer still working on the arm here just to keep the crowd enthralled. Paul Roman now on Sully,

Now.

I can't tell if they're doing that though, to amuse themselves and distract themselves, or because they're into the actual match. Kevin Sullivan sits down with a jawbreaker on the sleeper holding Paul Ooren Dwarf Roma comes in. Then they're exchanging all over again, rewinding the whole exchange over and over again. Is Kevin Sullen Rombo the body slam leaps to the

That is not good.

If you're gonna do that big involved yeah, you know, gyrating elbow drop that Paul En Dwarf used to do, at least make sure the crowd gives a fuck.

It's it's fucking weird, so weird, it's it's very weird, and it's like it's too much. He's trying to he's trying to get a reaction as opposed to just getting a reaction absolutely bad news. Big difference.

This match brought to you by Crickets Wireless, as far as I can tell, so much for vets who know how to adjust to the crowd or whatever the fuck. Sullivan backs him up, elbows, runs into the sleeper of Paul Oorndorf. Sully runs him into the corner to break that up, and then Orndwarf tags in Paul Roma, who stays on Sullivan. It's a high elbow for two. Sully then kind of just I don't know, Judo throws to get free and collides with Roma, and then Rome's around

That's the problem.

They do the spot where Sullivan's supposed to get the hot tag and then they just cut it off because Cactus presumably isn't ready for hot tag rally spot, and they do another sequence over again. Awful to build to another tag that doesn't come. Tag after tag after tag between Orndorf and Roma is they're kind of feeling around in the dark for something that's going to catch the fans, whipping a backdrop on Sullivan elbow drop tagging to Orndorf He's gonna do the elbow again, but this time he

It is terrible.

They're trying to evolve Davis and you don't know who's hitting who by mistake or on purpose.

Why don't they just have Dave like wrestle Ford fucking cactus?

He has a great question, I assume because he has the crutch. He's probably hurt like im obile somehow, I don't know, but whatever it is, all of a sudden, someone trips Cactus from outside and just holds Roma.

Roma trips and does the Bobby Heenen type thing and he just.

Holds the leg down and all of a sudden one two, three, and follies.

But here's the problem. This is the problem. This is the problem. Though okay, Folly gets tripped up, Roma's holding the leg. Nick Patrick and Orndorf goes for the cover right, and as this is happening, nick Patrick walks back around and he blatantly sees Paul Romas holding Polly's leg, looks right at it, but he and and not only that when he goes down, he goes down to register thereecount if I'm if I'm not mistake, if I'm not mistaken.

He wanders around like that Will Ferrell character that suddenly would just walk in front of the camera during an SNL skit. Remember yeah, right right right when he's out the pasture.

Right he said, oh, all right, I guess Penn, we're going for it. Okay, cool, okay, oh all right, he's holding Lake. Great, that's what we're supposed here for one, two, three, great?

Yay.

It was twenty minutes and eleven seconds.

Oh my god, shoot me, pretty wonderful.

Defeats Cactus and Kevin Sullivan here at Bash of the Beach night four.

Honestly, what are you doing, Nick Patrick. Nick Patrick is involved in more fucking screwy finishes than Earl Hadner. Yeah, Linda is happy, though Linda is happy, that is Yeah, she's applaudingly crazy. Yeah.

I don't want to say this in terms of exaggeration, but I do feel like it's it's necessary to tell people that I wrote this down as soon as this match finished. I'll tell you where I was at. I wrote the worst match I've ever seen.

That's what I read. Wow, look at that, Look at that new champs.

Tony says, millions of homes are watching our paper I view telecast. No, not millions, millions have access, but they're done.

Yeah right, and I'll tell you what, No one's watching this one right now. People are just taking a shit. And he says, you know they went away.

Absolutely, they're trying to get that bathroom break in. Tony says, if you've been like me, you've always wanted to see Flair and Hogan, I.

Got this one for you. This is great, little final hype piece.

You've been like me, a wrestling fan for years, You've always wanted to see the nature boy, Rick Flair face Haulk Cogan. It's the match we all talked about as wrestling fans, the match we always waited for as fans, and tonight World Championship Wrestling is proud to bring you that match. And Brain, I know you've been very opinionated about it. You know hul Cogan as well as I do.

You know the nature role, I know him better than anyone. Well, you know the nature boy Rick Flair as well as I do.

And even though you did not want to see this match, even though you do not like Hulk Hogan, you have to admit we are on the threshold. We are at the moment that wrestling fans, that sports fans worldwide have been waiting for.

You know, one way or the other, it's going to be a new era because when Flair beats Hogan, they're gonna say, that's right, we.

Knew Flair could do it all along.

If it goes the other way and Hogan beats Flair, they're gonna say, see, we always knew that Hulk Hogan could beat Rick Flair. But Hogan, if you do beat Rick Flair, I'm going on record right now, it's a fluke. Well that's the opinion of Bobby the brad Heat And then for the past well. Ever, since the fourth of June, when Hulk Hogan announced his signing with WCW, all of us in World Championship Wrestling have been just thrilled to have Hulk Hogan a part of us.

What are you talking, I'm not thrilled to have him a part of us. Don't include me in on this rap, he finished, Go ahead, We.

Are thrilled to be bringing you the match that everybody wanted to see, Hulk Hogan, the Hulkster and the millions of Houkomediacs all around the world waiting for his return to the rig against the man who has been the standard in World Championship Wrestling, the nature boy, Rick Flair.

You know, this is a match I've always won to see, not Hogan and Flair, but I've always wanted to see Hogan made a fool of and this is the man to do it.

It's just a shame.

It's just a shame that I have to sit here and wash these humanoids cheer Hulk Hogan.

I think Hogan should be have a broom in his hand.

Sweeping this arena.

That's what he should be doing.

And you should be very proud.

You should be very happy that we are at Rinkside able to call the greatest match in the history of professional wrestling.

You'd rather be here than doing a World Series, than doing the Super Bowl, doing the Stanley, Well, so would I, because I'm gonna love it when Hogan walks out of this building tonight and twenty some thousand people are chanting loser, loser, loser,

It's the match we've all been waiting for.

Ladies and gentlemen.

We present to you the biggest match in the history of our spot, Rick.

Flair and Hulk Hogan. As we go to Michael.

Buffer, Ladies and gentlemen coming to the ring at this time.

It's the last fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lampsed Fan. He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno MGP Soro.

One of the executives of WCW from Saint Paul, Minnesota, himself a former four time world heavyweight champion and now the WCW commissioner. Let's hear it for the honorable Nick Bockwinkle. Boo hey, boo, thegainwile.

Oh my god. They don't see him.

At first, he doesn't come out, and he goes hope he didn't get locked in a room, and finally he finds his way out into tuxedo and here is ladies and gentlemen from the four time world champion. WCW Commissioner Nick Bockwinkle says it again. Still no reaction. Heenan says, are you sure that's Bockwinkle or is that Lloyd Bridges?

And now it's It's fucking great, that's fucking great. It's so true. He does look like Lloyd Bridges.

And now tonight, ladies and gentlemen, as a special guest of the WCW. One of the greatest superstars in the world world of sports today. He weighs three hundred and three pounds, wears a size twenty two shoe. He stands at seven foot one inch. He has an NBA number one pick in nineteen ninety two with the Orlando Magic Ladies and Gentlemen number thirty two, The Shack Attack Shaquille.

I mean he calls him the Shack Attack, Like, come on, man, what is the problem here?

Yeah it's aw Vader is a snack attack earlier. But yeah, right, big pop for for Shack here in Orlando. T shirt says all Sport on it. Not sure what that endorsement was there for one Shack, but all Sport don't remember that. So skinny compared to like what he is now, Like when you see him.

Oh I know, now that he's retired, he's just a fucking He's just a fucking massive whale. Yeah, he really is. Like it just it just goes to show you, like you know, like with some with so many of these athletes, like when they're when they're working out and they're exercising all the time, they eat whatever they want, and but when they retire, they still eat whatever they want, but they're fuck working out.

They veg out like you wouldn't fuck that ship. Oh yeah, sake house every night.

Can you imagine how I mean, imagine how sore his fucking legs are. All right, he's so goddamn tall, and his knees are shot, all right, they got to carry around his gargantuan body, you know, and all he wants to do is fucking eat steak and tacos. Well, I guess exactly fucking chills out watching TV with like a plate of nachos on his chest.

Comes out and shorts a bit of an entourage.

Just just picture Shack, all right, feed up, you know, in this massive great room, okay, in his house, and again just a fucking heaping plate of nachos on his chest. Last long, Nope, not going to last long.

Heenan points out that he's got these really unfortunate sideburns. His head is completely bald, Shacks, except he's got a tuft of hair right at his temple.

You know, it's like this weird these weird little stripes.

Little patches.

Not okay, it's not okay.

And then goes so those pasting on sideburns, and.

It looks like it looks like he took his eyebrows off and put him on by his ears.

Nick Bockwinkle keeps whispering something to Shack.

I'd love to know what it is.

He's just trying to, like, butter him up and maybe make him feel comfortable.

To you, what do you do exactly?

And Nick goes out to lunch anyway, Flair music hits heen and goes, let's out of woo. Yes, yes, yes, he goes in a full mode. He says, I love it so much. Flair steps out in a purple robe, spark Hey, how come the champions coming out first? Chevan, that's why he's not on the call, so he can't point that out. Yeah, Flair steps out why on this show?

I don't know.

Oh no, probably wouldn't have got a paycheck if he didn't show up. Yeah, but you know the fact that they had him completely avoid Hogan in every way is so telling. So Flaire steps out, resplendent in his purple sparkling robe, and Cherry in the white and black lace and Flair smiling, strutting and twirling. It's a big moment for him. Sparkle was shooting there. He made it happen. He didn't just deliver on this night. He got Hogan into WW in so many ways.

That's right, that's right.

Tony says that Churery'd have to admit it. A lot of the great athletes. No, he says, you'd all have to admit that of all the great athletes, this is the biggest. Michael Buffer is applauding and for flair as he steps in the ring.

I don't know where that came from, the mother of all wars.

Right here, we're told, as Tony says, the years he was champed, they always said, well, what about Hogan? Tonight we get the answer, and here's that music.

Now.

I don't know if you're aware of this, but about Hulk Hogan. But he is America.

Made so glad to confirm that he's a man.

Can may changing. And then wee man, he's got the.

Red wating door running through his veins.

Where was he like to eat? He was born writting him in the US a very and then I go into my custom lyrics. He's something on his son and he's us grade. If you like to munch on a shuckle the pane and then if you mess with the best, you're gonna have to run pay. Does that mean? I don't know. Did it stop me from repeating it for ten years, twelve years and forty years? No way, no way, amazing, that's amazing, amazing.

He calls it to me, he does great, even though he's railing against Hogan the whole time. As soon as a music comes out, Heenan knows his role and he goes the roof's gonna come off here, you know. He immediately has to acknowledge the power of Hogan and the pod the pop gun pyro goes off above the entrance way.

I mean, that's like that, that's the but in that, that's the Hogan that we would that we kind of know like become the no because he he you can't picture Hogan without a posse right anymore. You know, Hogan. Hogan is only Hogan if he's got his posse. So true.

Heenan says, he's back and they're loving it. Yeah, smoke, fire and pandemonium. He then says, even more the Hulk Coloagan look alike. It looks even more like the guy we always see that they find in the crowd somewhere in a black bandana, which is interesting foreshadowing. Hulk chairs the shirt, hands it to Shaq. Heenan says, what I can't hear you? You know that goes They're on their feet. Cogan has returned. He theen says he's picking up where

He said it again.

He said it again right at this critical moment. I mean that that that makes you realize that it is not just it wasn't just a slip of the tone. It's now like, oh shit, like that's what they're going for. Horrible, It's awful. There's a reason people still mention where the big boys play, but they don't mention you know what the world is.

Watching now, Yeah, because that one sucks just awful.

You can see as he steps behind Michael Buffer how tall Shack is like. The print on his shirt is over the shoulders of Michael Buffer in the foreground. He's such a fucking beast. Ladies and gentlemen. This match sanctioned by the WCW Championship Committee and will be supervised by w CW Commissioner mister Nick Bockwinkle. The referee assigned is

Infamous? Don't?

That's not something to wear as a tagline.

No, not at all.

Looks like such a fated celebrity in they're all bloated and still clinging to the look he is. He's a faded celebrity. He's got nothing left. Our Challenger comes in wearing yellow, weighing two hundred and seventy five and three quarter pounds. He is, without a doubt, one of the most well known faces in the world. Tonight, But tonight, the magazine covers and the movies must take a backseat tonight. O Hey, Hogan, force that one in there tonight. After

Rips off the bandana rows. I love Michael Buffer, but man, he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. Sometimes that's true, he really doesn't.

Just reads what he's told to read, rips off the bandana as the ulksterra after his name is announced, throws it at Flair and the crowd explodes when he does that. I didn't see a WWF wrestling buddy in the crowd. Wild to see all this WWF merch being brought to the w C show. And good on them for introducing Hulk That was a nice detail. They didn't introduce him second, even though you know they rarely care about champion introductions.

I'll tell you what I I did appreciate that he came out he came out last, but they did introduce him first, and that was a wise move.

I thought, very much so, because it lets Flare kind of shine a little bit here. Yeah, because he's about to go down, but he he gets moment in the limelight as bigger, feeling bigger at least in this moment than Hulkogan, which is important for him and his opponent wearing the color purple. What did he get Spielberg's approval on it? Weighing two hundred and thirty four and one half pounds from Charlotte, North Carolina. We have one of the all time greats and professional wrestling. He enters the

Oh it's a flight seeing him because he's so fucking scrawn.

I know, it's such a like when he takes that shirt off, it's like whoa.

I mean, he's just you know, he when you see him so thin and you see kind of everything's long, it's very weird because you.

Never thought of long. We thought him as tall, but no lanky. Right right here he is and his lenkiest best. So they're circling and Hulk's getting a feel for the ropes and bouncing off of them. And Heenan says, the world title looks like cufflings or shaquill O'Neil, which is true, That is very true. Hogan smirks as they stare down, knowing they got to this point and it's something special. The main is a problem on Hogan does that it go too long in the back.

It is a little too long, big problem, Yes, no question there there there are, There are problems. There are problems among us.

Hogan all smiles, is there jaw jacking. Flair goes to shove and Hogan gets the brotherer face like we're gonna go that, We're gonna.

Go like that.

So then Flair the headlock shot off over the top he goes and Hogan tackles down Flair to a big pop. When Flair hits that mat, Flair like, holy shit, I can't believe the power I just felt. Back back up, lock up to the corner. Hogan shoves off Flair and you know what Flair does. I mean, if he's gonna get pushed off the corner, he's gonna go head over heels as he should, one corner of the ring of the other.

For the industry. I mean, what do you think we're doing here? All right?

Flair is wearing the light purple of his San Francisco toy maker's toy. Yes he is hard to deal with, but there it is.

Yes he is, he says.

Hogan is trimmed down, say the least.

And he's definitely leaner that's for sure. Flair question about.

That, ducks under and complains of a hair poll and acts like he's going to step to Jimmy hard and Heenan says, I'm gonna tell all the great points about hull Cogan that way when Rick beats him, so that will make me feel really great. So in other words, he's he's trying to like come up with a reason that he is a hull Cogan hater would be emphasizing so many positive qualities during the call of Hull Cogan, So credit to him for thinking that one through.

Yeah, because they're gonna.

Definitely when Bush comes to shove, they're gonna want Heenan to celebrate that bought that hul Cogan's in WCW more than to cry it. So Flair ducks under a lock up and struts around a bit and they cite the uh, they cite something, so the Flair tugs the rope. Heenan says, no one's buying popcorn or in the kitchen. They are glued to this match right now, which feels accurate, which is always nice.

Yeah, yeah, I mean, listen, I agreed to a degree that that is the case. It's still it's a weird bold claim.

But yeah, just one guy getting popcorn and he ruins the whole thing. But right, right, I don't know when wrestler would announced. Wresting announcers make especially boisterous claims and they seem like they could be borderline true. Then you know you're actually dealing with something that actually is special because it doesn't sound like unfounded hyperbole, which they'll say whether it's justified or not. So Heenan says, talk about

Oh god, he's so annoying. He's annoying brook teen. He's excited though, Yeah.

A little eight year old to whatever she is. Yeah, yeah, good eyes. She's ready lock up. Flair to the headlock and the hammer lock, and he picks the leg of the Holkster and hammer locks him. And you can hear the fans like that that Flair is out wrestling Hogan and Flair puts the arm ring around Holk gets onto his knee and Tony says, fans are responding to every movie here as Flair is creaking the wrist, Hogan gets up.

Nothing's happened. I know there's work in the arm like nothing like Shavani. They haven't had enough moves for people to react like they've done nothing.

They do love that Flair put Hogan on the mat. They do love that. But Flair then trips him down and maintains control. Flair with a woo for the people and talk about how even the referee must be nervous.

This is so big.

That's what they say in commentary, which I thought was a nice touch. They don't want to make it. You know, the ref is feeling pressure too. They point out, he doesn't want to make a bad call or have to disqualify somebody and be the bad guy and then ruin this historic matchup. I really like that one, kind of getting you into the psychology of the ref a bit. They don't do that enough.

Hogan.

Yeah, I agree, you know what I mean? It works, Yeah, making them feel kind of human too. You don't want to overemphasize because the ref should never be two gratuitous a part of the match, but to never mention them it's kind of weird too, agreed. Hogan comes up and Flair yanks him down again. Tony says, Sherry is barred

You know that goes, I mean, Jesus Christ, he definitely, you know, he steps, he does, he does. Listen, he brought in he brought in his arsenal from from Japan because he's here to wrestle. Not just fight the bullshit they do in New York.

Claire Flair stands up, gets on the chin and steps on Hogan Hogan's face as a matter of fact, puts the boot on the chin and Hogan pops up and does a hoof at that one, and Flair takes off, takes off, pulls sherry in front of them, immediately shield fans want and this is it?

She fucking tons.

He's pointing at her, she's pointing at him.

What kind of champion is amazing? It's amazing.

Jaw jacking, Flair keeping it school on the floor, not worried, Hogan doing this, arms back and forth, pumped up thing. They get back in the ring, lock up, Hogan shifts to the drop toe hold because again, we're not on the side of the Pacific.

You think we are, No, we're not.

Is concerned that ring at bash of the beach is the jurisdiction of Japan.

I guess. So that's what I'm learning, because he's working holds like he's exactly he is out there. He's chain grappling. Thank you, Okay, the chain is out and he's grappling off the chain in a lot of ways. What the fuck's amazing. So he does really drop to such a wild thing.

Drop toe hold, like, come on, Hogan, big goofy ass hole Kogan.

He's seriously like, yeah, exactly with his fucking like tree trunk legs, you know, like these these these long things, and he's just dropping down. God trip that, like, brother, you'll do I think we should do drop toward calling it in the locker room, you know. Flair to the middle rope, Ahogan running back on Flair's head on the ropes, and Flair comes up and charges and uh goes into the corner. Flair bumping for these hard and fast. He's knocking them around. Flair is so intense, the way he's

He just takes it all in. He doesn't disappear. Flaire goes to the gut and her right hand to the face and a snapmre. He calls for the knee drop. We can hear it loudly on the broadcast. He does hear that, and then indeed he does it. Hogan comes up hoofing, though he comes up hoofing from the knee drop, and Flare is begging off in the corner. At that Hogan does a corner mount ring down, some punches, then waves the finger. He's not gonna punch, He's gonna bite.

Whipon.