Ep. 399: Sid Tribute Part 3

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SID Basically ship man, it's Vince and you know better than this shit. We don't book a flight and a match on the same day that you're arriving England, so we go over there. We fly in the frank fot driven and stuff. We have to drive driving an hour whatever we go do this show.

We got to drive.

H We drove like three hours, excuse me, like three hours to show off an airplane, got to the building, we did the show. After the show, we had like a three or four hours drive, maybe even five back to the hotel where we stand at Frankfurt, and you know, hey, everybody's on the fucking bus. You start taking pills, you have a few drinks. You know, shit start getting heated. Next thing, you know, everybody talking about this motherfucker making money.

Man.

So I'm like, you know, scorp, I'm about the only motherfucker calming down, bringing back, like, hey, man, just leave it alone. So I go over to the Vader. Shit, I ain't the mother fuckering through the door. I'm like, damn, I go down the heading ship. I go down the steps. I see blood gall over, blood on the left, blood on the right, blood all down the fucking hallway. Shit, I'll keep on walking. I get down to the fucking hend the hallway. I'm not even the goddamn child. I

Shit.

Arn Anderson kind of falls against the wall from half drunk and half locks of blood and shit.

You know, he kind of stumbles against the wall. Seeing kind of steps back.

He looks at me, and I just stepped back in my stands like Damn said, I don't have to take you down. You know what I'm saying, But they she gotta stop. Sid just looked at me, freaked out, ran toward the back door. The door was locked. He kicked the motherfucker, shout at the fucking door, fucking pushed it open,

Mok.

After goddamn room, I'm up born to goddamn set the floor and I gotta come down and break the shit up.

That's bullshit.

And then I'm not even office, but yet amulance police come up. They rope the shit off man, like this a damn murder case, you know what I'm saying. Next thing, you know, these guys going to the hospitals, and me and one of the office guys going to the hospital with them.

So I'm over here filling out.

Papers for him, filling our papers for sick and the real name the address the whole nine yard doing the same thing for Sid on this side.

You know what I'm saying. I'm like, damn, you know what I'm.

Saying, So seas you got to have exploratory surgery, you know, arms got to get passed up from head to toe. Dan there and shit with all these damn pests. They end up staying there for a week, two weeks, we move on. Next thing, you know, they end up going back home and they want to press charge. You want to lock the guys up. Hey, that was it, man?

So I guess Sid's back in the territory. Who was that too cold Scorpio?

Oh wow, I've never heard her speak.

I was wondering if just my context clues you might pick it up. But yeah, smoking big hash. I feel like there have been a lot of people who you know, but Jesus Christ, that's a fucking riot. What do you know about the cid arn Anderson's stabbing incident?

Uh, only what we've talked about in the past. You know, I know that it happened. I know I know that there's it's a I think, if I remember correctly, it's a little bit different than what legend would have you believe. I don't know why exactly, but I remember when we did Starkad, that Starkad ninety three that there was it was like it wasn't as it wasn't as one sided as as it seems.

So let me ask you what a tribute to Sid and our arrival here on his chronology to his return to WCW in nineteen ninety three be a good time to perform a TLF autopsy on said matter.

I would say there's no better time.

And is it improper of me to refer to it as an autopsy considering both sliced each other open?

I think there's no more appropriate term.

This is fine, right, this is wrestling, so we have to we have to emphasize that, you know, Sid was nice to his grandkids over the fact that he nearly killed arn Anderson. Yeah, it's fine because we want to like Sid if if well, I don't know want to like Sid, but I mean, you know, the bottom line is it's wrestling, so so physical brutality and.

You know, disregard for human life, disregard for human life and just sheer acts of violence are acceptable because it's fake and therefore, you know, how can it really hurt them? Even behind the scenes. That's so true.

Yeah, when wrestlers really engage in an actual fight, it still kind of lands in the fans' minds and memories. Is just another fake squabble, you know, something that's more about legend and high spots than it is about the fact that, No, this is no longer bullshit, ladies and gentlemen. This is now a referendum on the characters of the

Oh yeah, exactly, No, that's that's completely accurate.

I'd much rather go to a territory that's on its ass, can barely put a thousand people in a building, if not five hundred in some towns. But it's still, you know, issuing checks that rely, that arrive in a predictable and steady manner in the mailbox, regardless of what I do or don't do.

Yeah, of course, you know, the less reliable what you do in the ring, providing the most reliable you know, reimbursement of your talents and terms of financial gain is. Of course, that's the way it should be.

I mean, if two Cold's version is to be believed, and for what it's worth, when he was alive, Sid did lend some creed to Scorpio's version, if only because he recalls Scorpio being around during the actual squabble with Arn, whereas a lot of other people like Vader were on

But well, I mean it's Vader.

Well, I think it's impossible because it is Vader.

I mean, I see, this is the thing. I think it's impossible and possible because it's.

Vader, and Vader certainly has his version. I mean, this is so Vader. Where's my credit for neither guy catching a murder charge because I plug a hole in Sid Vicious his stomach in the lobby. Vader wants to know why this whole thing isn't about him.

I mean, I don't think that's wrong, you know, I think I think Vader has every right to make every you know, every single major behind the scenes squabble about him. And of course, I mean because if he's listen, the more tension he gets, possibly the more money he gets, and then the more food he can eat, the more he can eat.

However, you know, choose to define it whatever a metaphor you want to put for eat.

The massive thing about it, you know, that's just it right there, if anything provides potential, you know, sustenence, you know, then he's he's going to do it, and we're gonna manish it and we're going to do it.

And the reason, as you mentioned that this last came up in the TLF ten year catalog with Stark ninety three was because, let's not forget, part of Sid's return to WDCW nineteen ninety three was basically being programmed in to win the world title and headlines Stark nineteen ninety

I I I don't. If you don't remember, that's that, that's there were some squabble and I know that you know it ended up with pain, end up with paying.

SID comes in with big money, big money, big promises, and then kind of even renegotiates for even more money shortly before they go in this European tour in October. And that's pissing off the Rick Flair R and Anderson camp as you can imagine, who have no love lost for a Sid that they, as we've talked about earlier in our SID tribute, had no They were hardly impressed with Sid's run through the Four Horsemen. Let's put it

I mean, I understand these guys. These guys, you know, they have a requirement and you know they have a necessity, and that is when you are when you are traveling that you need to be loaded.

Yeah, especially when you go on a European tour.

Yes, this is just so long.

I mean, how can we possibly fly for six hours without getting completely shit faced?

Right?

I mean doesn't everybody do that? Yes?

Right?

Doesn't everybody you know just just completely collapse from a willpower perspective at the thought of a transatlantic flight. I mean, where's the piece? I mean, I don't understand why this isn't acceptable and forgivable with a crew of professional wrestlers witness the Clean Ride from Hell in the w w A as well, it's all fine.

It's all yeah, it's and it's normal human behavior.

I mean, is it normal, as Scorpio describes basically blood streaked walls in this hotel in England?

Yes, in the hallways, yes I have. Haven't you ever see the shining?

I mean, Sid is kind of Jack Nicholson esque in this story.

Yes he is, Yeah, he is he's he's definitely been held up a little too long, And.

He would go on to say that basically, as far as he knows and can discern, the psycho Sid character he would go on to portray in w WF in no small part going back to WWF because he wouldn't be long for World Championship Wrestling after doing this. Needless to say, the idea that he was psycho in some way stems from this. Now, we did kind of sort of debunk that as he comes to the ring at WrestleMania eight.

We played yeah play, I mean, they call him psycho Sid Justice.

So they thought he was psycho way before he nearly killed arn Anderson. You know, it's definitely a proof point.

Yeah, yeah, I'll take that.

Definitely doesn't reduce the case anyway. This is an argument between Sid and Arn over what's wrong with WCW. As Sid likes to get in fights about what's wrong with the company. So it's never his salary. By the way, it's a booking argument. It's a booking argument, yes, and Sid makes and we'll get down to what parties involved, and eyewitnesses said. He said, basically makes a flippant comment about how old men like Rick Flair need to get out of the way, and then this company might actually

Which is hilarious because why'd you leave?

Yeah, because they wanted a fucking drug test and that's why. And as much as a common narrative wants to hold that Sid leaves WCW in nineteen ninety three because of this incident, a close examination of the chronology reveals that they certainly weren't. The ww brass certainly wasn't beyond trying to negotiate to keep Sid, even for he really fully

Not me?

Yes, Uh, the major companies are from the pressure and they're drug testing. Not ill we start talking about testing regimes, is said, booking the next flight out of town. Me thinks so, and is he trying to reverse engineer reasons to leave that have nothing to do with drug testing.

Yes, he is. I want to play softball. I don't want to play it now, I want to play yesterday. Ah, don't need to test. I'm not authorized to test.

No, no, we want to asking you said to administer the test. You must misunderstand. I'm here if I have to test others, but I will not test myself. I will test your will I have already tested my limits. I will test your tolerance for absurdity in the boardroom. Isn't it kind of bizarre that for such a softball enthusiast, Sid did nothing but play hard ball behind the scenes in his wrestling career.

Very true, So we're going to.

Get another example, another exhibit of the character of the man. One would call this defining, Others would call this the exception. But regardless, it's one of the more infamous things to ever happen in a major wrestling organization in terms of backstage fights that reach kind of a insane levels. Just just really that it got this far and scissors got involved, It's just incredible. I mean, Arn's got a trim his beard, right, I mean he's got to bring scissors on the road.

Sitting in the bathroom, you know, like just just fucking trimming away.

Just hear the snip, snip snip, you know what I mean? Like, oh damn, just these scraggly hairs. He's not satisfied until everything's relatively equal.

Everything exactly, not just that, that's exactly it. You know, he cannot stand any sort of like extra length hair.

On his face like a pro wrestler with fucking fluorescent lighting in a cheap England hotel room with the lighting on the mirror in the bathroom, no shirt on and a white towel or other ways trimming their beard at like one point thirty in the morning. Is that is that him trimming? Or is that Sid stabbing?

No, that's that's that's trimming.

So let me ask you when it comes to Sid stabbing arm, what would that be downed Blike, I mean, you're so good at making stab noises that I have the feeling that it just traumatizes you. And that's your way of dealing with it.

The thought of stating yes, the idea of a listen, there there are yes in terms of violent ways to go it's like the least the like I can't can handle just fucking shoot me, all right, Like I seriously, because the idea of being stabbed, unless you get stabbed in the right spot in the right time, it's not instant, it's not instant, and I can't handle that.

I mean, looking to see his eyes, is that a man capable?

Yes? Us, yes, yes, he is, he is. Uh, he is, he is capable like you never And this.

Is a dark story, a dark, dark, dark story, like you know, you know the story of already Lang somewhat, you know, like in twenty ten he.

He he how many? It's like I think he was found in his apartment with like ten self inflicted stab wounds. Oh my goodness, Like like that's the thing, like, as you know, like I can't, I can't handle that. If ten, if ten, If you stab yourself ten times and you're not dead, it's not a good way. It's not good for the victim.

I want you to consider the sixth one, you know what I mean? Oh exactly, Like you know this is

Which you know, if you know Ollie Anderson, you know that's like, that's huge.

Yeah. Sid's on like a short list with Stan Hanson and like three other guys who aren't complete shitheads according to Anderson, and he's got the book. While Eric Bischoff is in charge of production as executive vice president or VP.

No, No, I did know that he did.

I remember, I remember when did he When did he officially go go w cwuh slambering ninety three is when he came back, Okay, which which I think we've covered in the archives.

I think, yeah, we might have. I. Oh, no, I don't think so that's the first thing. Well, maybe we did. I don't know. After the shock Master incident, Yeah, I I do remember. So I remember being in my aunt's house and I remember flipping through the channels and it must have been a Saturday night, honestly, and I was slipping flipping through the channels and I stumbled the up, you know, across w CW, and there was WW wrestling on,

I remember saw the mini movie with Davy Boy and Staying versus Sid Invader on that episode of Saturday Night that I know I did not see with Cheatham, the little person involved in Colonel Parker.

No, the the whatever. I watched that wrestling show. All I remember is is sit in the ring Wrestling was on.

An episode of Saturday Night and this in so many ways categorizes like the absurdity of what was w CW at the time. As a Sid not only returns but links up as we've talked about before with Vader and the Master of the power Bomb tag team and faces off with the dynamic duo of Sting and Davy. Boy and WCW Saturday Night covered the mini movie brought to us by VP of Marketing Sharon Sadela or whatever her name was. This Sting and Davy playing volleyball on the

In the.

Colonel if they don't accept Charley raise Colonel Parkers in for a big surprise. Yes, you're a man ready, Yeah, Yeah, he's ready. Yeah, sids right, do you trust cheat them to get the job done?

Let me do it.

I'll take care of it. They don't see the reason I show you and asked for cheat them.

I trust him Black first w Studies controller, come to find out, was Dick Cheatham.

To be prepared and to Sting and Day. But Boy, don't see the light. They'll be in for a beach blast like they've never seen before.

Beach blast coming out your pants.

I mean they're they're both individually laughing into the camera. Of course, they're barely addressing each other, sitting on the beach in his blue trunks. They sit justice trunks. And here's a shark fin in the water.

Awful, the jaws rip off.

You cheat him with the shark fin on comes walking out of the water under the shore. He's got a cooler in his hand, and it contains a bomb. Boss, it contains a bomb, of course, also containing a bomb beach Blast nineteen ninety three. And this we have not covered in the archives, so we are kind of getting ahead of ourselves. Please forgive us whenever the time comes to cover beach blast when we replay this, and I'll give you a little more homework.

On that one, Boss, so you have to actually watch it. It does.

Speech volley all games being interrupted. Oh my god, this amphibious vehicle in their full wrestling gear. It's so Sid has his blue trunks, blue knee pads, but he's got sandals on.

Everybody. Just stay here for a second.

This looks like it could be pretty interesting.

Let's go see what they want.

Walking down the beach, hardy of course, and slacks and a shirt on the beach, Colonel Parker and his full regalia.

By the skulls and the bones.

Got that the skulls and bones that lie beside our path are simple to our victories. Boy, They just cut to Sid and Davy pardon me, stinging Davy silently marching towards they are and Sid clearly shot on different days.

Brother, I take that back. They come to center sting, baby boy. I can't believe you wouldn't nixt factor proposalf God, he sounds so constipated, day boy.

Except someone really thinks they have like a.

Future of movie making doing this quick.

Maybe it's a shot on separate days because they do that split screen effect.

I'm thinking maybe I don't know.

They're only in the same frame.

We got the tickets when they're standing on his two diametrically post sides of the screen.

Get her hands.

We can fly out of here.

Go off from them, well, baby, one more time. Four hundred and fifty pounds invaders six feet seven and three hundred pounds, sad vicious masters of the power bomb.

I mean maybe we should just take these tickets and just retire.

Said the WCW fan. All these people horrified watching on the beach, that maybe even meant Diana Smith holding a baby and glasses find a way to get on television.

So New York blast. Oh my god. If the kids cheers that they're going to face a blast, you got fine.

You're not gone.

God, may guy got big boy.

Just made up mistake here.

I mean they are never they're talking off off camera to people who aren't there.

What are you supposed to mean by that? Yeah, that's a good question.

Just desperate people, and desperate people do desperate things.

But I'll tell you what, like make fucking bullshit movies from beach blasts.

Hey, guys, let's go buck you put some.

This is what Sid left an event w W spot for a funny.

Round A funny guy hanging around the boat.

Say what.

Hey, sting, sting, where's he going?

He's gonna see the guy hanging around the boat going.

Click click click, excuse me? Did do do do do do do do do do do do.

Do do.

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Davy Chap is sting into the waters. The boat explodes, stunned up this fucking uh, Western music there, fucking morons, everyone just docking at this exploded boat put stinging Davy emerge from the water in the kids cheer because they thought they were dead.

M h.

Be continued, Oh I understand why he stabbed arn Anderson.

Oh my god, So I would stabbed everybody involved in that fucking shoot.

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Sid is back and we are back here paying tribute to the remarkable and unique career of Sid ud here on the podcast, and thanks so much for sticking with us through this this journey we're taking. It's it's it's hard to call it a journey. But at the same time, though more closely you examined Sid's career, the more just some unbelievable story where he's just unfold before you.

Yeah, I definitely imagine unbelievable regarding Sid.

Definitely one of them. So we're rocking and rolling here. The seasons have changed, you know. I guess I feel like as I see a beach scene there with Sid Invader and staying in Davy, that that's very much behind us, is it not, Boss?

Thank thank Christ. Is it not I don't know, Halloween time?

Yes?

Is it not?

I don't know, scary movie season time under the cinemat for these pitches.

Yes it is. I'm fucking no. The what you what would have just been seen? Is uh is not a living dead? And very happy about that. I hope everyone enjoyed that one. What a wonderful movie.

And look at the career of Pittsburgh wrestling voice Bill Cardill, who is also an institution on television in that city, you know, Brunos, San Martino City for generations. Yep, yep, just a just a real treat. And and you know, we've got a few more weeks left. I'm not gonna spoil what's coming up next. No, it's a big surprise. But don't have dinner before we go trick or treating kids. Okay, that's really what I would suggest, because it's all it's

For one night.

They'll not defend their titles. They'll they'll wrestle for the Crown Jewel title. So like, so one guy's going to beat the other champion, and then which being a champion, which makes him the better champion?

Like, honestly, you're there basically if they put another belt up for grabs with the two world champions going at it, then this is it's a unification match.

Yeah, it was always something that fucked them royally when they insisted on doing that at Survivor Series, it being you know, Champ first, Champ brand versus brand. They got away from that and then they I don't know, maybe the Crown Prince was not pleased and wanted his own title belt or something.

So I'm sure he does.

I'm sure he wants a Saudi Championship. That'll be the the Saudi World Championship. So that'll be part of a one to two punch from a live call perspective coming up in the month of November over at Patreon, as we do what we have to do to get that under a belt, and as we learned, even the Saturday Night's main event they're going to bring back in December is a premium live event, So for the first time in a couple of years, we'll come at you in December with a live call, rocking and rolling on so

I mean we should we're getting into the Uh, I believe some of the stuff that we you and I watched together.

With my mom.

Yeah, it's about time I make a cameo during these things exactly.

You know, you definitely did on the one hundredth show with Kobashi and Joe. But you know we're getting onto that to some of that that fun shit. You get to join in and see what what my mom's all about.

So that's available to members of the Moat tier, the Premium tier, the highest price tier, the one that we do understand is a little rich for some blood. But my god, does it not help us discern who out there in the Solar system deserves the most direct attention and service?

Boss? Oh for sure. I mean by this point, oh, you know what we're actually this reminds me we are actually in uh uh you know scary you know, scary match season with with my mom. I do we do I do a couple uh you know, halloween esque or you know, kind of horror themed matches for the month of October. Yes, you do. People would have just seen Undertaker versus Yokozuna in a casket match spooky, certainly a spooky match, and.

Not wait to hear what Mama Sorrow thinks of a match where you could put someone in a fucking casket and closed.

Oh yeah, oh yeah.

It's funny when they and the Netflix stock when Vince talks about how we don't do murder and then they intersplice it with clips of people getting stuffed in caskets.

No killing, no death. How about how about buried alive? Yeah? How about that?

How about Punk saying he's gonna kill and he's ready to die for it's give me a break. So, speaking of Helen a Cell, we did hear from the homie. Gabe, who we've been telling you about in recent weeks, is facing a very serious surgery and probably by the time you're hearing this, Gabe will be heading in for the procedure.

Ah, dude, why put yourself through that when you got such a big thing coming up?

Well, you know he figured, you know, the heart's already damaged, so what the fuck right? Yeah, going to get it fixed. Let's take one more round of fucking pain. Awful, But he sent this missive from the State Farm Arena. All the old timers left immediately after their little screen hit. Remember that they were showing like DDP and XPOC in the crowd.

Yep, yep, yep. That's good to know. They get the.

Fuck out of there. They weren't watching these fake matches.

No, they don't listen. They just want to get there. They're fulfilling their contractual obligation and they're getting the fuck out of Dodge. You know, give my fucking check them out.

Gabe also reports the crowd love the hell in a sale match and I'm a sucker for false finishes, so they got me engaged. Kids love Damien Priest. That's interesting to know. Let's hope Damian Priest doesn't love kids, right. I don't care about either of.

These name with that last name, Priest. It's kind of hard not to.

Gay writes, I don't care about either of these dipshits, Baylor or Discipline. Ramirez. Significant qualitative difference, he reports in presentation live compared to an AW show, but maybe that's to be expected. I suppose he means, you can't compare the production level of a live w W show with a live AW show.

And Kay Gabe is a AW guy.

You know, we've had him on Opper shows talking about actually helping put one of their shows together in Chicago Ones, he writes, Nya Jacks as an oath I think we can to get behind that.

Yeah, yeah, she definitely has o Fish qualities.

Dominic will be a star, he reports. Crowd hates him, but you know what comes from that.

Yep.

Goldberg was over, but that sucked, and so does he. Goldberg had a confrontation with Gunter during the Crown Jewel title presentation. So Goldberg's in for another probably one million dollar a night for what those I don't know what they're gonna do. I mean, we're we gonna do fucking Gunter versus the versus Goldberg at Survivor series. Maybe by the time you hear this it'll be clear. But why

If they take away ah, if they take Gunter's title away, I mean, listen, I like Sammy Zain, and I think that there is nobody more deserving of a World Championship run than Sammy Zin on this current roster based on the shit that I've seen. But no, no, it's not time, it's getting juicy.

Yeah, Gabe also rights no one like Saudi Arabia instant loud booze at the mention women's match, putting crowd to sleep. And also maybe we get Rocky that'd be okay. And indeed he ended up getting the rock. And when the rock returns, that's when things really get fascinating.

I see just looking changes and yeah, and ideas go flying out the fucking window.

Time for fifteen minute social media videos that he goes into business himself producing walking around the building with his Versace vest and saying fuck when no one else is allowed to yep yep. So really really guessed and dialed in for that. So again all to say best of luck to Gabe. I'm sure even though the procedure is upon us, he would still he and his family would still very much appreciate support on the go fund me.

It'll come up. You'll see it all and you'll be.

Able to help. So salute and best wishes. When we talk about Sid, what do we talk about? We talk about Viennas right.

Of course, I'm Vienna Sausages and I send him an autograph picture.

I'm saving this for when we do the CID like feedback, wrap up, look back show.

But I have reason to believe.

That we that the amount of Solar System members that have actually sent cans of Vienna sausages to Sid's church in Memphis.

Is not zero.

Oh my god, I've seen confirmation of delivery receipts in my inbox. Oh does this not make sense that.

That is Listen, he sent my church a case of Vienna sausages and I sent him an autograph picture.

Case what if? What if? What if? What if the church sends sends people autograph pictures of Sid. Oh my god, yeah he left just a box of him, yeah, with a note that's like that's in the present tense, saying like thanks so much for helping us out. They never find out he died, yeah, or like they're just like, well, fuck it, we gotta you know, let's just act like he's not dead. Case of Vienna's.

We've got a serious case of the vienna's balls deep in Sid's career, and uh, you know what.

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Oh yeah, yep, yep. Once, uh, you know, once, once Halloween has uh is in the rearview mirror, mirror, We're going to wrap up our uh, our James Bond journey in the month of November. It's uh. And again, like I said, it's it was always intended that there would

Absolutely so much going on yes here at TLFHQ and celebration of ten years of absolute domination and pillaging. It continues with the TLFX Games. This is such a great way to observe the occasion, to observe this special anniversary, and it's a tournament to determine the greatest character in the history of the cast. It's the King of the Cast tournament and keeping with the crown jewel of it all. This year and the election season and the Olympics, it all,

I mean these are all you know, these are some fucking main event matches here in terms of you know, not that we haven't had or main event matches to begin with.

Oh, there were some stiff matchups you'd put what Hogan and Savage in the beginning. People weren't ready to pick a five.

I mean, I'll say this, you know, I mean Vince McMahon. The laps Vince the whole time he's been in all main event matches, right, you know, So this is this one though, this is gonna be This is a tough one.

On the left side of the bracket laps Davy boy Smith versus laps and Kevin Nash and laps Jesse the Body Ventura versus lapsed Andre the Giant. On the right side of the bracket laps Dusty Rhodes versus lapsed Helen Hart and lapsed Vince McMahon versus lapsed Hulk Hogan. The poetry of it as it develops organically, it really, it is so true.

It is so true.

And if all goes according to plan, by the time you hear this, voting rather and the final four round should have opened over on our X account. That's where we're holding the polls to turn it over the public and decide who advances. And what started out as a thirty two person field.

By the time by the time this this this drops, you know what, we may have We may be on the onder the next round, the semi finals of We may be both. Yeah, I mean gonna win.

With so many days open, maybe maybe we'll extend the window a little bit so that people that for some reason are slacking and or it might not be an x and only hear about the TLFX Games tournament through the podcast. We'll get a little bit more time to vote on this, because this is one. Now let's getting to the point that I don't blame it. I don't blame people for taking a little time with their ballots, you know what I mean, Maybe a few more days

No, I have not voted. Have you voted? No, I can't vote. I can't vote.

No.

I I'm actually thrilled to hear you say that, because as soon as you ask me that, I'm like, oh shit, we should have just talked about that.

No.

No, I.

I employees are not eligible for any gifts or contests, as they have to say on the radio.

Yeah, so no, that's not.

We're not putting our thumb on the scale in any way, shape or form. And I'll tell you when it comes to like laps editor versus Laps Jesse, it can come down to a few votes.

I mean, I'm expecting that with Vince in Hogan. Honestly, Yeah, I really am. I. I you know, I'll tell you what if if if we hadn't, I would actually say it would be a shoeing for for lapsed Vince if if we hadn't done TNH. I think TNH was a huge game changer, fascinating.

Well, we ended up doing as deep a dive in a psyche as we did to Vince's through the trial of his life.

Yes, exactly by virtue of that, because.

The Hulk's TNA run really tells you who the man is, you know, yes, as opposed too the character is. And just just amazing times. What a way to ring in our ten year anniversary. We're so thrilled the way this has been playing out and how engaging it's been. In a big shout out to our supporters over at Garage Beer, the TLF approved the top that you can pop this holiday season. Man, these guys are growing strong and fast. We were on board early with the big fucking thumbs up.

I think the the fun of it is is bringing it to a place where it really transforms. It's kind of adds something.

Of any area. We've been in Vegas so many time, I know.

And even LA, it's like, you know, it's bringing it to a new area of LA because LA is so fucking big. Like when they did LA, it was like, you know, it's in the brand new space, you know, the whatever Sofi.

This is a leading stadium. I've never come close to it. It's it's just as new as so Fine.

It's a different part of town. But but again it's Vegas. It's like it's not so that's not going to turn sisely, it's not going to actually make a dent in Las Vegas. Las Vegas. You know, it's like you can't you know, Vegas is going to over it's like overpowering as it is. You know, I don't.

And it's not just it doesn't happen to be terribly convenient to where our sense of where we're strongest is where most fans are concentrated, you know. Right, we were able to get a bunch of fly ins to LA and have a great turnout for our first Wrestlmingia live show, and we've got a great turnout in Philly because we're so strong on the East coast so what we're going to do instead of WrestleMania in terms of a live show.

And we've done Vegas, we did star.

Cast two and it was great, but it's there's no novelty there for us at all. So well, where we are rock solid is is in the most important city in the world. This only makes sense, right, Yes, I mean, we over index to the highest end of wrestling fandom, we over index to the highest end of podcasting. And so I don't know if Summer Slam's going to come back to New York next August, why don't why don't your CoA chairman set up a live show for anyone who's who's headed to MetLife Stadium.

I mean, and we've you know, we've done it. We've been there. Uh we have hit up the uh MetLife on on on several occasions for for WrestleMania. So it'll be uh, it'll be nice to actually, you know, do a live show, uh you know, kind of in well, I don't know, either New Jersey or New York, whichever want it ends.

We're pretty sure we're going to be in the heart of New York. The homie Ray Gooots is in play. We're talking about it. We're looking at venues, and we feel really confident, based on where he is strong as well as where we're strong, that we're going to come with a very very serious proposition for every building. But it'll be in the summertime.

And I don't know.

I mean, Jesus Christ, if we do somewher next year, I mean, yeah, hey, the next summer slam is is is where we wanted to be Mini.

That's true, and we can go to we can go to Kat's Delhi after the after our live show in New York.

Oh shit, that was such a smatchhit for the special Moat event we did last time around this year for The Boss and his live play. Yes, yes, indeed, a live play, live presentation. And I say that because of course all plays are live. But we were in the immersive theater. Yes, oh the play was especially live.

It was indeed, it was very listen you can't get much more live than that. Honestly, if Sid had been there, I might have gotten shoved with scissors.

In my gut.

Had such a terrific time. I thought there were some Moat members out there, and there are some ideas in the works for the tail end for the fourth quarter. I guess you could say of twenty twenty four as well for the Moat.

Here.

Nothing's crystallized yet, but Boss is continuing to make big moves, as we've referenced several times on the show, and another one another big shoe was about to drop, and it would only be appropriate if we put something together for our nearest and dearest for that as well, So keep your ears peeled. This is all to say we're heading into the holiday season where we really we don't take our foot off the gas.

We fucking lay on the gas.

We oh, we attack the gas like Santa attacks, you know, the cookies that you leave behind. It's gonna get crazy with all the Christmas content, and it's all built, of course, around the Christmas show. And it's already October. My god, it's already the second week of October.

And I got to you know what, I got to make a fucking trip to the post office. See what's doing there? Think you do?

I think you really do, because folks are heating the call to not miss the actual unwrappening event this year, as the co chairman get together to record live reactions to gifts that you, the members of the TLF Solar System see fit to send to us. It's a wonderful tradition and long may it continue, and of course the lifeblood of it is what you guys can come up with.

Right right, I mean, but it's just it's a globe glorious thing. Yeah.

And look, we know when we say this that that makes you probably even more likely to send too much. But it's just well, if there's anybody out there who's like, man, some of these presents are ridiculous, Like I don't even know if I can compete.

Just trust it. No, no, honestly, because I think I think one of the funniest ones and one of the most memorable ones, Like from last year was the uh the chat GPT shit.

Yeah, just printed out pages and chat GPT generated scenes and lapsed.

Uh. You know circumstances. We love it.

We love anything you can come up with. We've got uh we got the full master list of of of tapes that people have. We've gotten like Excel spreadsheets printed out in the past, We've gotten scripts, We've gotten just so many cool things that people have come up with over the years. And it's really it's really cool. It's one of a kind, and we're gonna keep fucking pounding. We're already well positioned. Folks weren't fucking around after last year, and some gifts came in.

Late yeah yeah, yeah.

The peelbog is already getting attacked.

And some and some gifts end up uh yeah, like getting floating over because from last year, I think too indeed, which makes some sense.

So if you want to make sure you get in under the wire, think about it now, think about it before it's time to think about gifts for the actual people you care about in your family, you know what I mean, Like, get us out of the way, so that when the time comes you can just enjoy the show with that extra spark of what are they going to get to my thing?

And how's it going to taste right? How's it going to agree?

The PO Box, as always is the Lapsed Fan seven ten Main Street, South PO Box one one nine Southbury s O U T H b U R Y, Connecticut zero six four eight eight laps Fans seven ten Main Street, South PEO Box one one nine Southbury, Connecticut zero six four eight eight, And we'll see it at the PO Box and we'll see you on the fucking Christmas show Box. It feels if it feels right to be talking about this, Oh, absolutely it does.

That is great.

It doesn't feel like we're putting any carts before any horses.

No, no, no, no.

He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast.

He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and carn SEO.

MJP SORO And we're so thrilled whenever we get word from out there in the grid or ether that we're inspiring others to create things. This is one of the things that's been the fuel to the engine for ten years here at TLF, and we're here to remind you that the pal the Homie, Matt Wassong continues to produce a really cool TLF inspired podcast. It's not unlike the X Games in some ways. It's a tournament sort of formatted show called Late Night Wrestling, and we're proud to

The Analytics Bear formerly the Alaskan Bear. He teamed with God.

He teamed with the company OWM Analytics and embraced analytics in advanced stats, which has led to a lot of success. Oh, analytics is basically the York Foundation. But in twenty twenty four, why don't we use computers to generate what the next move is going to be?

I mean, what agreed? Why don't we? Why don't we what the next gate is going to be?

For that matter, where's the where is the AI enabled WWE Superstar? We're still waiting.

Yes, you know what I mean.

He lets us know that we gave him the germ of this idea when we riffed on an episode a t n H one. He thinks he recalls about a wrestler called not big Daddy, but big Data. Yeah, big big data. Not to be confused with big tobacco or big farm, big pharma. Yes, big data, just to be clear, not spelled dadda yeah tata. Matt wants us to know that he thinks he already had the idea for the Alaskan Bear, so he used that idea as a launching point for the York Foundation in twenty twenty four. While

Of the Mountain.

All that and more on season two of Late Night Wrestling.

Check this out.

He's really he puts a lot of work into it. There's a lot of craftsmanship on it, and it's really cool.

That's hilarious.

I love it, and that we had something to do with it is definitely definitely a good feeling to have as we look back on what ten years of relentless LAPPS fan podcasting has meant and produced and caused let's say, incubated catalyzed. So it's nineteen ninety two and sid is coming back to World Championship Wrestling. Bill Watts has mentioned got of played a part in the deal. He writes in his book, One guy with a bad rap whom I got along with famously was Sid Udy, who wrestled

I don't know who knows, who couldn't possibly imagine.

Everyone told me. Wats writes what a problem Sid was, But I don't know that I ever had anyone try harder for me than he did. He would soak up like a sponge everything I told him, and he tried his heart out. Sid had never just been taught a lot of the basics of pro wrestling. He'd gotten huge pushes because he was such an awesome physical specimen, but no one had taken the time with him. I think Sid's problem with a lot of people was not ego,

Boss. Okay, all right, all right?

He is talking about the dynamic on a shoot interview.

I love working under Oleandis or Bill Watts. What guys like kind of statives, you know when they call me dun motherfucker and this and that I don't.

Take it to heart.

Let's have that last part again.

I love working under Oleanders or Bill Watts or guys like that storatives, you know when they call me don mother this and that. I don't take it to heart.

I mean, I'm I'm feel kind of you know, I I hear authoritative, so that that to me right, there.

Is a problem missing a tea in there. Yeah, and that's one thing said was never low on te.

T ball.

Uh.

That from the In Your Head Wrestling podcast, which Sid made many appearances on in his retirement years, and which we'll be accepting. Big shout out to our video and In your Head and Hannibal and all these guys that got sit on the record over the years, because it gives us a real sense into how the guy actually felt about his career instead of just watching it back. We can yeah, get an idea of the signposts hour along the way, Sid the booker, I mean I can't conceive of it.

I can't. But this guy really wanted to book.

I don't why, you know, It's like it's almost, to me, like the syndrome of a guy who knows he's way overpaid, so he's got to come up with like this idea of himself as someone who's actually a visionary and justifies the money, you know, someone who could be much more of a utility man than just an entering performer and a shoot interview, Sid said, you know, Bill Wats is the one who offered me a position in the company to work as a booker. First coming to interview for

WCW. I don't understand this, well, you know, uh.

He was.

Bill was in WWF in late ninety five when SID was back and working with Diesel. So maybe that's what he's talking about. He wasn't there, It's just Sid was gone by then too. October ninety five, No, I guess he was. He was still there in October. That's around the fall of ninety five is when Bill comes into WWF.

Yeah, I I yeah, he's there. He's but after hisarversories he's going. And it's before SID and before the it's after the deal Diesel stuff.

Plenty of time to develop a sense of the man's work ethic if you ask me, yeah, I suppose one way or the other. He did make a a well noted stop between WWF and WCW.

Did Sid.

He worked one Global Show Boss if you can believe there really Global as ESPN Global Wrestling at the sport of Tournum in Dallas.

Against Rod Price. No, not quite.

He went on April second of nineteen ninety three to the Sport of to team with Johnny Rotten, who, apparently, according to book Others, was just some friend of his who wanted to be in the wrestling business, and so Sid brought him around and let him wrestle. That team faced a team by the name of the Ebony Experience,

I don't recall that, but wow, that's fascinating.

Booker was very forlorn upon learning of the passing of Sid because those two, him and his brother owe everything to Sid in terms of finding them a spot in the big money company WCW, big money relative to what other options they may have had before them at the time, and getting them much bigger contracts than they had any right to expect or even to ask for, and further continuing to support and advocate for the Harlem Heat to stay on pay roll when the initial idea for their

What the initial gimmick was something. There's something there, but I can't remember what it one.

Should they come out with chains around their neck being dragged around by Colonel Parker?

Should they do that?

No, we'll get into what what Sid thought and what I think the average person thought about what that presentation signified. But the way Sid remembers this and it could it could be true when you consider the timeline that this Sportatorium show was a Kerrie van Eric benefit show. Kerry, of course had killed himself.

What was it.

February I think of nineteen ninety three, Yeah, so here in April in the sport of time, they're running a global show and Sid and Shoot Interviews has talked about this event to something he did because it was a Kerry von Eric tribute show and the Harlem Heat had been in the territory for a year and a half at this point, and Booker says that Sid had seen them already on ESPN Wrestling before he came to the Sportatorium in the Flesh and told them that he was

Call from.

Sid Vicious, the Ruler of the World, who offered us an opportunity. He wanted us to go to Atlanta to try out for WCW. As the trek from Texas to Georgia drew to a close, the sun was rising and the Huffman brothers that's Booker and Stevie's real last name, could feel the magic at hand. It was a make or break time. After hitting the Georgia state line, we were neck deep in WCW country and it felt like home. During our brief conversation with Sid, there'd been no talk

Um uh with Cody Rhades.

Correct? No, Sid's house, Oh God, Sid's plays. Sid was a well established made venor Booker writes who had a huge run in WCW from nineteen eighty nine through nineteen ninety one, rubbing shoulders with some of the biggest stars and then WWF with guys like Hull and Warrior and Randy and Taker. Now he was transitioning into a position with WCW is a booker who could produce homegrown talent. So this these guys, Booker and Stevie were beneficiaries of this Sid as office incarnation.

That we're getting. I can't handle that. I can't. I can't imagine. You've met him in the.

Polo, you know, on the golf course with the other turner execs. Hey, what do you saying, big Sid?

How's your U? I picture I picture him, you know, right, he's wearing you know, he's wearing clothes that he thinks are what he should wear. You know, Yeah, like how he's wearing the gondols on the beach blast thing. He goes to turner offices and everyone's like in suits and stuff like that. But yeah, he comes in in like a white polo shirt, wearing tucked into jeans and wearing like a beige blazer. Oh you know, and he thinks that in a in a baseball hat and he thinks this is dressing up for work.

Oh my god, said my god, look at the size of this guy.

I've heard you're here.

Uh so you're working for the office now, and the office I strive. You've been consistent with your driver today, said what are you hitting a three wood?

I'm not. I'm looking to tell you what I'm hitting. I hit what I need to hit to get the job done. Well, I don't really know what to say to that you're you're.

A unique creature in this corporate environment. I can't wait to see you thrive in it. I'm sure you'll bring a fascinating touch of personality.

I'm a big.

Oh.

If we have our way to turn home entertainment said, you'll be just that. I heard you were offered super shudder, but it went to some other moron.

Shut up, now you look.

Every one of the chorus turns around, like even the next hole. It's like looking back, like, who the fuck is that?

Now? You looking in my eyes? A piece of trash. What I will do next if you keep flapping your gums and chat me you black we're friends, is I will grab you by the throat. I will lift you in the air, and I will drive you down to the ground. See see it, don't don't sweat it. Man. You know we've all got that one hole that just doesn't want to cooperate. You don't even know what it means to feel the pain of a hole. Just ask arn.

I don't know, Sida. I'm thinking of seven iron should get me right to the green?

When's picking up a bit? Though? What do you think? You don't even know what green is? I was making the green when I'm made off any wrestle.

So it's a hulk cob and so a six iron just to play it safe, is what you're saying.

I suppose six iron would do all right. Make sure there's a breeze in the air. It slashes to the left. That's looking good.

Trust me, I know that feeling. You know you got one part of your game that's hot, Sid, another part is cold. Just have to keep your head down and play through it.

You always keep your head down. That's why you'll never get ahead in the game. I'll be watching you. I'll be watching you while you sleep. It'll be clicking my knife the whole damn time. Uh sounds sounds good? Sid? Uh?

I hope I hope to be open and grabbing a beer after this. I mean, let's finish strong here and and get a bruskie. What do you say, let's catch that back nine on the televisi.

I don't mind getting here with you if you don't mind sharing a can of Viennas. You mean you mean the sausages?

What what are you?

I got a package of crackers right here. You know exactly what I mean.

Hey, let me ask you something you're you're in the fin ends department, right, Yeah, yeah, indeed, Vince, I'm Vince. I'll tell you a lot what I've been watching lately.

Oh yes, it.

I mean, you know, I've been the controller for some time, and you know, trying to try to find ways to assigned to other units of turner your losses and assign the wins to you guys, contray.

To popular belief? How can I get more money? What's your budget for Vienna's? Let me ask you something. Do you like Viennas?

Are you?

I want to just want to be clear. You're talking about the Vienna sausages. You getting like a can or whatever from you know exactly what I'm saying.

On the golf course. Shut up, Shut up the psycho Sid story. Yeah I like Vienna sausages. Yeah sure, I mean, god damn you like them. I like them so much that I could buy a case of them right now.

Would you buy one hundred and fifty thousand cases?

I would buy fifty thousand cases. Yes, I would donate them to the church. Oh yeah, my church. If you do that, I'll give you a sign picture of myself. If only Sid could say, if you do that, I'll give you a signed picture of myself and make it sound like a threat.

So what's the problem with corporate?

What a deal?

I buy one hundred and fifty? I was in fucking cases of headshot.

I still I still walk around picturing that garage door opening at three thirty in the morning and Memphis, Arkansas to But there's all these undistributed boxes.

Like neat like, so perfectly stacked, and he's.

Looking down and them like he knows what he has to do, and Frank is not gonna like it in the least.

Bitch.

I still I still think about it. I still think about him whispering bedside to deliver the venus. I mean I think about it all the time. I mean, I'm not kidding you, four times a day minimum, So Booker continues. We were his first kids, handpicked projects, and he wanted to personally oversee our entry and take care of us that all morning. We got out of the car and walked to an apartment door to be greeted by the

And on the microphone. What what mombent that bedwn deeke phone?

What might that for?

Down deeck song? When he's in the.

Gym, When he's in the gym, rip an iron, trying to get a point across to all these idiots, these undersized bitch asses who can't command high seven figure salaries, who yes, whoa cling?

Don't understand? He said, ah, come here.

And prove yes.

He sent my church in case of being the sausages, and I sent him an autograph picture.

Keep going, keep pumping on. You want something from me, You want to understand the loss you got there? You pump you pump iron like nobody's business. And I'll give you an autograph picture for myself. For he's so generous with those autograph pictures. It's almost like he has a full inventory of ones that he ordered with fake stamped signatures. I'm want to tell you, I'm wanna tell your secret. I haven't excess to them because Frank didn't deliver them

And I'm like the Vienna's the homeless don't have any use for these headshot. I tried putting peanut butter on him and they wouldn't take him.

I made peanut butter and jelly roll ups with the pick just nobody ate them. I wonder why.

Instead of just giving them the peanut butter at the jelly, he puts it on a fucking cellophane, he puts it on a laminated headshot.

Thinking you know what, you know, you know how I can get rid of these. I can have homeless people eat them. That's the play. It's a whole. It's like a whole, fucking like tray of you know, it looks like enchiladas, but it's sucking shots. It's not but it's not enchiladas. It's headshots.

Talk about heilatas talking about hitting you in the head like a shot shot head shiladas.

Oh is this Christ?

Oh?

Hey JB, this is Jesse. The body of Bendora, and I want to thank you for being a fan from the wrestling days. You had the question for me, Do I remember Sid putting peanut butter and jelly on his eight X tens?

No? I really don't. I. Hey, you know this is a Jesse the body governor Ventura hi JP. Oh shit. He asked me the question, did do I remember Sid Vicious? I do remember Sid Vicious? But do I remember him putting peanut butter and jelly into his headshots and rolling them up and giving him to the homeless or you know something I don't. I don't recall that. I wouldn't put it past him to put to be honest about it, But you know what I do think?

Uh?

I think uh? I think headcheladas are very good.

I guess this guy Sid has incredible anxiety at the thought of overstock.

Do you know what I mean? It's like because you know, you know, he spends he spends like all summer long. Okay, he spends all summer long, working so hard to make sure that his garage is empty for the fall and winter seasons. All right, Like that is it? And if he has overstock, it means it means clutter. In the garage and we may and he may not be able to park both cars, and that is just you know, it's unacceptable.

No wonder Frank gets so much heat for the undistributed viennas. I mean, we're talking like square footage here that.

Used to be exactly.

I paid top dollar for this square footage. And because of your lazy ass, your big brothers film and lazy ass, I can't I can't park the escalade.

Frank, how do you think I'm supposed to bark the accord in this garage? Frank?

Let me, Frank, Frank, vienna is in there. Frank, before you say another word, I need you to recite to me the full menu of what's of what's available at the pop top at the church.

Go ahead, what do we have? I know we got viennas, but what else do we have?

Say it?

Do we have package crackers?

Frank?

Do we have crackers? Frank? Do we have peanut butter and jelly? Ahead? You lott us, Well, you know we don't. I'll tell you, Sean. You know, we don't do it big. We don't go over the top. All we get is a canavyan of sausages, package crackers, ball water, a moon pile or a little Debby cake and peanut butter and jelly smothering in one of my pie tens. And it's really he tries to tries to sneaking in there and move on, like he has no choice but to disclose it,

You know what I can smell? What a package arriving at the bo box? It smells like peanut butter.

Oh my god, fucking a headshot. Oh yeah, fuck, it's a it's a publicity. Still a fucking of sid with peanut butter and jelly.

That's all I'm saying. Lash and I book a right. Were in awe as he introduced us to everybody we passed. As we got our workout in. I saw guys like Big Papa Pump, Scott Scott Steiner doing three hundred and fifteen pounds behind the neck presses. Lord Stephen Wriegel later began William Regalan and the Wwe stared at me. Brigel was a talented wrestler who began his career at the age of fifteen, and he was clearly aware we were Sid's boys and his eyes, we were probably being expressed,

I can't.

I cannot stand it when they have to fucking feel the need to explain shit and talk and explain people the full rundown. That's to show that they're students of the game. Oldi was retired and basically in charge of the entire company after cowboy Bill Watts had been ousted from the position. Oldi had a solid crusher handshake and got right down to business as Sid oversaw the process from the corner. Sid stands in the corner, of course, she does Harlem heat sit across the desk from Oly Anderson.

What do you mean the place the same room?

What?

When we left Olie's office, Sid clarified the contractor.

I'm sure he did.

You'll always check everything up front, guys. You'll get monthly raises, and before you know it, you'll be making ninety thousand, then one hundred thousand a year. It's all trial and error. As you'll see, you'll get paid what you're worth. Big Sid was a brilliant mentor you or.

You'll get paid what I think you're worth.

Guys, I know that only just promised seventy thousand in there. But I'm here to tell you this. What's he here to tell them?

Boss? I'm here to tell you something about how it is to make money. Right now, making money sounds like it's a good thing. All around. I won't tell you, and I want you to look to me dead in the eye. I want you to understand that you are not just worth what you get paid. You're worth it.

That is such a sad thing to say. I'm sitting here scratching my head because he would say things like that, you are not just worth what you're getting paid.

You're worth what you are up here in your head, been in your heart. So if you desire things, make sure you're worth it up here and down here.

If okay, hold on, if you desire things, make sure you're worth it up here and down here. That sounds like the kind of thing he would say on Nitro and then blame Vince Russo for scripting, even though no one could script that absurdity. But he would say, and it would make sense to him, absolutely it would. He knew exactly what he wanted and how to obtain it. Booker says of Sid he was a huge draw in the ring, which was the way to gain an audience backstage.

No, he wasn't, He really wasn't. I mean, how many times you have to go over this. I don't understand, and people are weird when when it turns in terms of like what they think of a draw.

He's in ww and no one's showing up. When he was in WCW before the Hogan program, in WWF, no one was showing up. I mean, what show were you talking talking about? WrestleMania eight?

But no, what's the huge draw?

And rest mean, it was a big show. But what are you pointing to empirically that says Sid put more people in the seats than would have been there if he wasn't there. Namely one show up to this point in his career that you can say that about. I mean, do you really think the who you're done would have ten thousand less people if Sid wasn't in the main event? Not at all, and Rick Flair was or somebody else. Give me a break. I'm not trying to take anything

What are we talking about him? Mean, that's just it like he's always in the in in each company when they're in the bad.

Yes, he's a value you call when you don't know what else to do, and that's a good spot to have.

But a draw that is not It's a lap fan wrestling podcast. He's an lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack.

And he's always he's always Sids, always in the position to be like, imagine how much worse it would be if I wasn't here, Well, Sid, it probably wouldn't.

It wouldn't be much worse. It'd be about the same. I think he's always like, see, this is the thing. I feel like he's always He always comes in in a time where he can make an intriguing matchup for somebody else. Nobody's curious about. No one wants to see Sid face somebody. They want to see somebody face Sid. Ain't that the truth?

When he talks about getting the Hogan spot in WWF, When he talks about taking the title of Vader at Star K ninety three, I sit there and I think to myself, that would fucking be terrible, Like Sid running with the belt like that and pretending to be like the cash cow of the whole organization. That wouldn't last more than two months. Right, That's not Sid's role. No, Sid is Sid is the opponent sid is the opponent.

He is the the the.

Opponent the guy faces, absolutely right. And yes he will.

He will have a charisma and he will draw in an audience like the people who are already there, like like few others with just a turn of the head. And that's a great credit to him. But him being the guy is just not going to work, I mean, and that's what's so captive about the time period We're going to spend the most time detailing later in the tribute when he actually beats Michaels for the belt in ninety six and has that run where you can kind

I mean he's like he is the epitome of like a lame duck champion.

Yeah, Wresselmenia thirteen the fucking most pathetic WrestleMania ever from a business standpoint, that's his big fucking claim. Yet he's a draw because he headlined con Centertaker and no one bought the show and no one gave a shit. You know, it's crazy, but here we are, so Booker oblies to say he was a huge draw in the ring, which was the way to gain an audience backstage with the ones in the business who mattered. We have him to thank for delivering everything he said he would. All we'd

My God, What the fuck top Performer, which had.

Been one of the Big three organizations along with the World Wrestling Federation and the National Wrestling Alliance and was owned and promoted by his father, Vern Gania. Greg insured the guys knew the direction of their performances that masonly mende He walked around and gave them the finishes Lash and I were fresh from Global in Dallas, where we'd enjoyed a loyal following. Is Booker T and Stevie Ray

No shit.

As insane as it all seemed, the reality was that they thought this was a solid plan. This was the kind of racial obstacle Oxy Baker had warned me about back in the WWA. But he'd said, when someone draws and makes money, all the bullshit goes away. If I had to go around, under or straight through these barriers,

Oh no'bill asked me to be a part of the booking committee. So yeah, so I was.

You know, I was fait as much time as I could in the office and would come up with ideas. Actually that's how I got Cron Parker and the Harlem Heat hired.

Yeah, let's not forget he also brought in Parker. He didn't just bring in Booker. This goes back to him working for Continental when Fuller was the booker there in Alabama and Sid worked there as Lord Humongous and got a pretty good push, and also where he met Bruno Lauer the future down to Bruno Slash.

Harvey Whippleman portrayed Deck those characters in front of only Dusky and Jim Barnett, and then Jim Barnett and Dusually. I think the holy Their concerns were that if Robert you do the character as well as I was doing that.

Right, that was their original game. They were cool and something, and they came out and changed right, and he was like.

It was similar. Well, this is what the whole idea was. That Colonel Parker was supposed to be. You know, this is a big flamboyant person, and how he got with the Harlem heat was at you know, at that particular time, the governor of Louisiana was a big time gambler.

This is a real shoot and he always owed a lot of money, you know a lot of different things. He lost a lot of money and horse race and stuff like that.

So we came up well, I came up a little story that you know, during a beat that he lost a lot of money to Colonel Parker, and Colonel Parker instead of warning the money says, you know, hey, I've proved myself being the greatest manager in wrestling because I brought said dishes in. But I wouldn't for there was two people that were nobody's so when two people off death row, and.

That's why we brought it the end in like the Gene shirts and the Gene pants and they had those numbers on.

Them like they were kind of just coming out of prison.

And the thing about CD, he actually had some really bad scars on his back on the shoulder, and I wanted to use that to our advantage and said that that's where you know during prison that the man beat him man being the guy in charge.

And that was the whole reason that Booker was in prison for real, right at one point was he he could have been I didn't know that he urged his life around and that was a huge humanitarian. Yeah, I didn't know that.

But the main thing was this is that you know, cdium really looked at him. And this is things too. I had was being taught this in the businesses, you know, we didn't have real know they'd have a strap mash, usually to get out of a angle or something like that.

So I said, what was it? You start strap match from the beginning.

And these two guys, you know, had been in jail for the last you know how many years being strapped by the man. Now they're gonna get the revenge on the man. They're gonna strap everybody they see. I mean, what happened is that they were trapping other people. And you know, working in the w c W at that particular time, you know Sinner's being you know, one of the top ten teams.

You're going to work with them, with the Road Warriors or somebody like that.

So at least when you got to a point like that, you could have a real gimmick match, because these guys had been trapping people for some time.

But Dusty didn't like.

It because I wasn't his idea from understanding, and they came and said it was too racial to me.

How can that be racial? These are two black guys trapping white people, you know.

And so then.

This movement not an argument, just a battle of words between me and Dusty were he wanted to call.

Him Shinetown Heat or something like that, and I said, well, I wanted to call him a Posse, but a movie just came out called The Posse. I didn't want to copy that. Hindsight, I wish I would have. That would have been a better name for him.

And it's nothing wrong by copying people, and I just didn't know that at the time. So I said, we'll call them the Harlem hell Raisers. They were building themselves already from Harlem. So and bickering back and forth, I just succumbed to Harlem Heat versus he was going to call the Shottown He pretty much had was the Roague.

Warriors, Gill. You know, so this is that said road warriors. You know, so this is Calm. I said, they've been building themselves some Harlem, So this is cal Harlem Heat.

So yeah, I don't see how it's racial if they're beating the shit out of white wrestlers and the fans to chant like they want to kill them. You know, I can see the I could see the inverse. We're like, you know, the black wrestler was the babyface and was being victimized by a racist white heel, and then you know, the racist white heel gets his come up ins right,

I mean, you know the fact that the entire everything else, it's like, you know, it's everything else that that makes it a racist thing, you dumb ass. I mean, do you look at the guys you see escape prisoners, you know, right, I mean just seeing them come down in chains is not okay.

That's what was so cool about the Harlem he gimmick is there was no you know, they were just a great tag team. You know, I guess being from Harlem, you know the way they talked and that's how they talked. Uh, there was you know, it was racialized, I guess a little bit in that. You know, they were very their identity as black men was front and center to the presentation in some ways, but it wasn't. They were just a tag team that that was a couple of black

It's like, so that didn't that didn't go well.

It was taped, we've seen We've seen glimpses of it from the w W archives and some documentaries and such. I think even the match where they came out dressed up like that on a on a center stage television taping is out there somewhere. I think they've they've shown it before, but obviously it didn't go anywhere. I don't

Sid? Like what is this?

Like you see something in the USA today? And now we all have to like hear that. There's no way that they could get that complex of a backstory across on a wrestling television show, especially at WCW show in nineteen ninety three. I mean whatever, So that's but look that's how Harlem Heat got their foot in the door

It's been a rough day for me. Uh, it's been a real rough day. We lost Sid Vicious.

Yeah, man.

Sid actually was the dude that got me and my brother I break phone call, came to the Global Wrestling Federation, the sportatory him and pretty much to rest his history, Sid Vicious brought me and my brother in. He said, hey, ma, I'm gonna get you guys, and I'm gonna get you in. Probably about six months later, me and my brothers was in w CW, and not just in w CW, was staying at sid viscous apartment, uh park the Park apartments right there and marry out of Georgia. And uh he

All because of Sid.

Man.

See, it made sure me and my brother got that spot two rookies, man, two green horns, you know, in the main event, and a pay per view that you know that was being debut Dusty Roads. You know, I came out of the mine of Dusty Rhoads. And man, what a time, Man, what a time I've been. I've been thinking about that all day today, man, ever since I heard I got a phone call, accident, got the news, and all day heaven just going back in time and going back to the early nineties. Man, it was such

Man.

I give him all the praise for getting me and my brother in and doing what he did for us. Man, I just I told him, I just wanted to thank him for everything. If he had personally in his face, you know, to his face. I wanted to thank him for everything that he did for me and my brother, and I'm just glad I got a chance to do that. Said it definitely was the guy that springboard you know, my brother and my my career to the next level.

I mean, I hate to say it, book I mean, do you want to know the reason why? Because he had an idea for death row gimmick and you thought you guys would make great prisoners. Well, look, how you get in the business is how you get in the business is what you do right from there along the way,

And it was.

At the Slambourree nineteen ninety three pay per view in May of nineteen ninety three that Van Hammer is in the ring to face a mystery opponent, and we are subjected for the first time to this Colonel Robert Parker character. And not only is he here to tell us who he is and what he's about, but he's here to introduce us to his charge, the returning Sid.

Here comes.

See Gurney very right up here.

I was holding a stretcher that is contentable.

I'm not to introduce to you now for three hundred pounds from mister ten a thief.

Oh lord, you get off on your feet.

Were a shoe of a stick for the man then rules the world. Sick fishup, Oh my, get that going over here.

Long, Coco.

We don't want help to hold here, Cooper n Father, get the god old the hair, Coco.

I don't want to be holding the concas respas.

I got a paper here, I tell you World Championship Wrestling.

Better buy a few more kurneyes. Sit Vicious making its lighting the line.

Meanwhile that Heather.

Has destroyed the journey.

Honey outside, sit Vicious hit back.

Why here we go?

So Sid gets in there and he's back, and he absolutely fucking.

Yeah, better buy a few more gurneys.

Yeah, if you're wondering if Bischoff was in power yet, let the fact that Larry's obisco is on color his old age body. He'll be the answer there. So Sid gets in the ring and absolutely obliterates van Hammer, and you know, he does what he has to do to be Sid right, the same thing that he had a fit over warrior pulling on him. Yeah, this is who the war ultimate warrior is, the ultimate Warrior has to do these things to be the ultimate warrior, to be

So we're sitting there and van Hammer is telling me all about all the stuff he's going to do, being bing bing.

I said, no, do this what we're going to do where how you know he did his interest in talk. Come in, I'm gonna do this, Jill, can you kitch you to get power bombing?

And that's it? And he looked around him and Bill said, I guess that's what we're doing.

Bill Dundee, of course, Oh my god. It was front office and Aussie, I mean sits back. I mean this guy, please, he's just gonna squash everybody and that's the way it's going to be.

And no one says.

So he's back, and he kills van Hammer on the show, Power bombs him to hell in seconds, and van Hammer is essentially never heard from again until the Flock Days. So he's back and again mentioning that the shredder thing he got into that life right exactly. He was just left over from Jim Hurd's many failed attempts to create characters that appeal to children, including the rocker Van Hammer that he pushed to the moon and fizzled out, but

He says.

Eventually he ended up doing six or seven movies, and we did share with you just last week on the main Feed the episode of Under the Cinemat for one of the low budget films that Sid actually he was able.

To do in his time. One. Yes, oh yes, River of Darkness, Boss. River of Darkness. What a piece of garbage. Oh it was bad, I mean, that was.

It.

It was.

It was really bad. I mean it's it's a a straight to video movie and it was. It was just awful. And Kevin Nash in it as well. Yeah it was. I mean, yeah, Kurd Angle, Kevin Nash, Sid It's it's you know, it's kind of star studded cast there.

Yeah, sure, it does film out of Pittsburgh. He also did a film called Stranded, and he apparently does a deal in like a mockingbird kind of movie where he doesn't have a speaking part, but he was dead the whole time.

And yeah he and he and Nash are dead brothers, so he can.

Okay, Yeah, is that River Darkness. That's River Darkness, River Darkness. Yeah, in this interview he starts talking about it. That's a different movie from River of Darkness. But oh, I see it wasn't.

Sorry he's a.

Lapsed fan Wrestling podcast.

He's a lapsed fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno and JP Soro, and he.

Talked about, you know that he had a planned when he got in the business. He wanted to get out at forty and he was thirty three at this time in nineteen ninety three upon returning to WCW, so wow, you could see some you know, one or two juicy movie offers, maybe paving the path for a life beyond wrestling, which apparently he was seeing for himself within the decade.

Not everyone, but many do, I imagine most.

And so when we talk about the CID arm fight, there's just multiple perspectives. It's it's postmodern and the amount of perspectives there are on this thing. And we're going to do it damned just here in the TLF tribute to Sid because there's really no better place to get into this then right here, to try to lay down something approximating a fact pattern that takes most of the

Second of definitely something like I knew the name for something.

So Gary Michael Capetta of course, was on the road for WWT the time and has the perspective not so much as someone you know, involved in breaking up the fight, but involved in kind of observing the publicity that this happening overseas, with these wild wrestlers being in an England hotel room generated so he's kind of got that perspective on it as well. I turned to you, boss, if you could share with the Solar System GMC's recollections of this thing to get us started.

On Tuesday morning, the buses were waiting at Gatwick Airport for the one hundred and fifty mile trek to Cardiff, Wales. The first event of the Halloween Havoc ninety three tour would be held that same evening. We arrived at the Cardiff Marriott at noon, allowing us just enough to time to eat, take a short nap and be ready to board the bus once again at five for the short

I think BCC, by the way, is the local promotions company that they partnered with for the tour.

I thought it maybe have been a big Caucasian cock in England. Maybe, I guess that makes sense. The little Caucasian cock maybe makes sense. The British cock Casting Company. There it is, there it is. We arrived at the Mote tier House Hotel in Blackburn after midnight. The receptionist on duty was pleased to report that the lounge remained open as a courtesy to their American guests. The temptation was too great for several of the wrestlers to resist,

That exhausted jet lag feeling? And then you finally feel like you've carved off the time to catch up? And then everyone then for some reason others just didn't get the memo, And.

The more.

Frustrating then, like when you're on the verge of like getting such much desired rest and then something just ruins it. Oh all right. My first thought was that the boys were just rough housing up and down the hall. I then realized the racket was taking place just outside my door. Seconds later, I heard funderous thumps or wax against either of the walls or the doors, or both. I couldn't be sure. The pictures and mirrors that hung in my room vibrated with the power of each impact. I quickly

When Syd recounts the story, he says that the reason they went back to the rooms was because everyone was down in the bar thinking that the food that had been ordered for the wrestlers was going to be at the bar, and then they found out that the food had actually been delivered everybody's room, and that's why they go to the room, not that they were ordered up to their room. So let the first discrepancy.

They weren't ordered up their room. The orders were in there.

He got that, he got that mixed up. But I'm sure there's these little details along the way that that might make Sid seem a little bit more crazy or a little bit more of an instigator here that he he recasts. You know, he's got curious details about things like that, like who cares were the food? Like what are you talking about. But I feel like it's got to be self serving that the food is what brought them upstairs instead of a disciplinary You.

Know, yes, crack of the way, because what did he do. He was just out there to get his dinner.

Right exactly. They weren't sent up there because because he already started shit.

Sids was on the opposite side of the hotel. Arne did what he was told. Sid stopped at his room, picked up a chair and carried it over to our corridor. He was like a man possessed, like a wounded animal that has found itself trapped, wounded by Arn's words, trapped by their inscapable truth. Sid returned for revenge. This was no longer the result of lips loosened by alcohol and hurt feelings. This was a premeditated attack. Arn, whose barbs

Thank you.

That's what That's the kind of perspective I'm looking for, you know, like nobody fucking does that. Like this guy doesn't know the difference between a wrestling fight and a real fight like he does. He'll hurt you, for real, But some of the history onics in there will make you wonder if it's a work.

Like you, if you're gonna hurt, if you're gonna fight somebody, you just fucking fight them.

You know, you don't cut a promo, We're gonna finish this. You don't make a big scene out of banging on his door. Definitely don't go and get a squeegee. Such a gimmick.

This guy, he's such a goof The two then wrestled for control of the shears, stabbing each other as they bounced off the walls. God, if you would scored the fight from the gashes scarring both men's bodies, Sid would be declared the winner. But judging from the sentiments expressed by the wrestlers, it was a no contest. Arn was the crowd favorite. Oh, it was no contest. Arn was a crowd favorite. You'd have to know these two guys to understand why Sid and Arn came from each other.

So all that said, what a sid side of the stabbing incident's story? What does the psycho one have to say?

Boss?

I didn't do anything. I had nothing to do with anything happened to do with Hart Anderson.

You be the judge.

You hear words from the man himself in a series of shoot interviews, and you tell us if that's basically what it amounts to what he says? So is it pertains the question? What sid side of the stabbing story? Let's take a few dabs at it?

What do you say?

Let's do it exactly what happened? We were in a board and I just wait you some food.

We're all on the table drinking, and somebody brought the question and I think asked on a question, what's wrong in our business while we're drawing?

Like the other company?

Is that the one thing about me is man, I mean, if you can't be honest, you can be honest with me because you can't hurt my feelings because I'll just say, man, it's not true.

I am better.

What do you think there can't hurt his feelings?

Okay, okay, yeah, And that's a great that's a great question to ask, you know, like why is our business down?

Sure?

Sure, because I'm sure the answer will be, well, it won't cause any fights at all, of course.

But what I thought I was wrong with the business. And that's what I said. It's what I'm saying. I said, well, it's our business. We get a fucking old man named Ric Flair. Need to get the fuck out of way. Listen to guys. The thing about the business is that why you have to, you know, revolve talent because people do get burned out.

And I think that's proven.

I mean I think that was proven there the fact that they're released for him to go to w W F you they never thought that would have ever happened, but it did and now you know.

But anyway, so we get to start the argument.

I had a question, real quick, boss, can you help me with this?

Yes?

What would w CW have done if they agreed with Sid and stuck with his dumb ass and then Stargate happened and they had no main event? Having Rick Flair around then seemed to make a lot of sense, didn't it. Let's go with Sid's version so that we don't hire Ric Flair, the only guy who can save our ass on this show.

Yeah, no, I think you don't. And I think what happens is despite despite getting you know, stab and stabbing and doing all sorts and having a completely unnecessary and completely inappropriate fight, Sid main events Starcade ninety three by himself is what happens, and he faces himself for the title, and then.

We got the little, you know, verbal argument, and I think he's shung beers in my face in the bar, and then as I was going into my room.

I think, do you think is he is? I swear to god, it sounds like he's like chewing dip no tobacco. This is nineteen ninety seven R video shoot, and I've seen the video of it. It doesn't seem that way when you watch it, but.

All right, all right, it definitely sounds like he is he's dipping. It's either that or he sounds like someone who would dip. Do you know what I mean? Someone who sounds like in and out every now and again.

Yeah, yeah, he does dip. The story of his life the dip man. I love that phraseology. I think Arn threw a beer at me. Yeah, like he's he's trying. I think to say somethings along the way that make an Arn's fault, even.

If, of course or fault, no question.

I mean, would you forget in a situation like this, if someone never would be never to start.

I don't care how fucking drunk you are, exactly, you don't forget this kind of ship.

Bunch of guys were in the hallway and he broke a beer bottle and threatened to cut me. Then in my room was only just a few rooms down for him. Like I came past his room, took the left, four doors was my room, you know, Like we got in there there what food was?

So sid has introduced this fact that we did not hear from two cold Scorpio, that we did not hear from a Gary Michael capetto which, in all fairness, you know, they don't claim to be eyewitnesses from the very from the very inception of the confrontation on the hotel floor. But Sid just added that Arn threatened him with a broken off beer bottle, which I've never heard. I heard Arn was in his room and Sid goes to the door. But okay, we'll grant that for the psychoed one.

What's that to say, no, no, he's he's absolutely right, there's I mean, I also heard that that there were a couple uh uh hotel employees who were you know, holding him hostage with bows and arrows as well at arrow point, yes, exactly.

Going to the bar, but actually came to my room, I said, being part of the sandwiches.

So talking about the sandwiches and where the food went, that's a fucking relevant detail. Sandwiches are crucial to the store in the room, they're not at the bar.

I said, Man, it's not sucking, you know, I mean, I've got a bad temper.

Two said, he just fucking stripped me from bear in my face and then just fucking treated me with a beer bottle broken I said, all fucking line. So there's a chair, it's like that, but you're not the leg off I was whacking star.

We had a couple of times who instead of just swinging the chair, breaks the leg off of it.

Well, you know you you you want to You want to break the leg GoF of it for sure? Why because then you have the sharp wood so you can stab him right exactly. But obviously you want to take the time and the energy when you're in the midst of preparing for battle in order to.

And then somehow argue that this wasn't premeditated, even though you went to the trouble of manufacturing an items that can stab.

I will say this regarding said, there is nothing within him that says he studies any sort of meditation whatsoever.

So when I got back down, there was no one in the hallway because do worship. So I knocked on the door. I said, come on.

Out here, motherfucker, you bring your here about it?

Whatever some words are exchange I could want of hearing I heard even falling around still around of thought. I said, he's fucked up as bad as I am, you know, and down get to realize what I was doing, I said, This is fucking stupid.

You can uh incoming alibi ready to tell when he takes that kind of a pregnant pause.

Look at the records that the police had. The stick that he says I hit him with, was he never touched him? Was twenty feet the opposite way of where the fight happened.

Now, okay, what he says that the stick that Arn would claim later that he attacked him with from the chair, that he never touched on with the stick, And in fact, for some reason, he doesn't want to say why the stick was twenty feet from where the fight actually unfolded.

Well, because I mean, couldn't someone have thrown it? Yes, it's a not a potential you know, reality there.

I mean, you know, I'm no professional estimator, but twenty feet it's not that.

Far from the city.

Not, I mean, that's an easy throw for sure, you know. And he wants us to look at the police records. Okay, yeah, let me go over to what is it, the Blackwell, England Police Department and pull those real quick.

I mean, I'm I'm actually disappointed that you didn't do it. Don't fucking don't don't come with that.

One drop of blood, one dinner.

It would have been hit or nothing. And I went to the rest of it, so arnt come out? I left, turned, turned my back in the door open. I turned around. Aren't sitting near a pair of scissors? And I went just like this as a man. Hey, this is called to fucking far. And then I remember coming after me, all right, So he coming after me. I don't really

Okay, so why would you feel it in his face in his hands? He got stabbed on his face in his hands as well as oh he did got Yeah, he had scrapes and cruising for sure.

He says, I stabbed in my cup. I didn't feel it my face in my hands, like, yeah, because you didn't get stabbed there, but I guess he did. Yeah.

Later he would find that he had those wounds, but you know they're not They weren't as obvious to him. So his thing is he just clubbed Arn. Basically, he fell and the scissors fell, and then the franks before he clubbed him, he Sid got Arn got some shots in, some stabs in really that he didn't realize, and the scissors fall out of Sid's stomach, and then Arn goes to grab him again and Sid gets the scissors away. Now, I mean, obviously it's who knows what we would do

I don't know.

I'd like to tell myself that my first thought wouldn't be can I stab this guy forty five.

Times in return?

It doesn't it It seems like, you know, the fact pattern, even though I'm hurt, is kind of in my favor at this point. And if I do that, then all of a sudden, I'm the problem. But we'll see, yeah, I don't.

Yeah, and then I don't. Happened so fast, there's like a nightmare, you know, And I remember.

I think somebody said him or somebody Walton Hollis made her killing me, killing me or something, and I had the scissors in my hand.

Ah, so he went completely blank and was actually stabbing you catch that?

Ah?

Yes?

The uh the momentary lapse of sanity.

That's right, Yeah, which can be a criminal defense. You know, if you argue that in the time that you actually began the fatal attack, you you were basically and incapable of rendering a decision as to what it was you were doing, that that can be you know, it's called the insanity defense.

Sometimes.

Yes it's fake, right, but it's it's less about insanity and about whether in that moment you were in a state of mind to form the intent to hurt somebody. Doesn't mean you you're going to get acquitted for sure, but it might make the difference between murder one, you know what I mean, murder two or manslaughter.

Right. I looked down and I saw him, A fuck, he's fucked up. So I threw the fucking scissors as far as I could. I've been to him to actually trying to pick him up and hauling.

Throw the scissors as far as you threw the chair leg. Yeah, what I would love it if he said I threw I threw. I threw the scissors forty feet away from me, and then he's questioning twenty feet for the fucking chair leg. So what I did, Sean, And you know this because

Fucking So I danced to call An when I did blood concussion on my stomach. Now I realized I've been stabbed, So I'm scared to fucking that all white on.

Wait a minute, now, he's saying he's now realizing he'd been stabbed right, Yes, yes, didn't he say before that he saw that the scissors fall out of the side of his body before he started stabbing Ron, Well, you're forgetting that the scissors can run. Well, I'm not questioning the position of the scissors. I'm questioning him saying.

As scissors move all over the place, they they are like it's like a toy story.

I mean, this is a horrible situation, but I do feel that these are important details. I mean, listen, he just claimed to realize he'd been stabbed in two different moments apart from each other.

Here's the thing about Sid. Okay, honestly, he shouldn't have been called Sid vicious. He should have been Sid victim because that's what he is.

He's a la fan wrestling podcast.

He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and for An Seo and JP Sorrow.

On the fucking Hallway and then the rest of the rest. These are some other things that people don't know. We were supposed to be flowing different flights back, putting different hotels.

When I was in the hotel.

When I was in the hospital, the police or whatever you call it, law enforcement over there, they came in my room, trying to get in a press charges against him, and said, no, man, I looking press charges against him. I said, you know, we're both you know, made mistake of you know, I don't know how bad he's really hurt. You know, I really didn't. That's why you feel it was not they don't have one scratch on him, you're not exports towards surgery already have that stabs him. I said,

Okay, So the police, who want, for some reason said to press charges against Arn, tell him that Arn doesn't have a scratch on him, and then a nurse comes by later and says, your your your friend isn't doing too good. Why he would get two different versions of Arn Anderson's condition, I don't know.

I've never understood.

I don't even understand why it's self serving to kind of frame it that way. Sometimes I think of it that way. Yeah, I mean is the guy okay or not?

I don't know.

And there a new place where why are Yeah? So I dropped the charges. All right, Now we get to go home. I found him in the hotel by myself. I go to they on Leaves's boots at the hospital. So I took him with me to get him down the road somewhere.

Yeah.

I found out that he was at the same hotel as that, So I just left him at the front desk and assumed you did these darn Andersons.

And then took out a nine millimeter and started shooting out the chandeliers.

Just all of a sudden, like took out a pair of boozies and just started fucking just overturning like catering trays. And just think of Sid. Okay, think of Sid holding a pair of automatic weapons and just going bonkers with it. It's it's cinematic. I will say that. I can see it right now. Yeah, like his face, you know, just like with like a like a military green vest on but no shirt underneath. Yeah, yeah, oh absolutely, listen, he's yeah, he looks like he does on the cover of the

Yeah, yeah, So I went to a machine drink kildrink poke or something.

What what's the specify that he didn't go get booze? I guess. But then he says, my godkers, you're gonna be in this with that? You said, no, seriously, right? Did you get you have a snack too? Did you get a can? Did you go down to seven eleven and get a can of ease?

There? I'm sorry. With all the people in the world, Arm was the last person I wanted. I wouldn't want to do that to.

Anybody because I had to, but I did not want He would have been the last person in the world about because he had only been good to me as a person. I don't know what anybody said every behind my back, face to face. He was always a gentleman, and I can only assume he was like that at all the time.

I don't like that.

So I said, well, where does ARM say? And Joey said that Arm said he was so fucked up they can't remember anything, And so that's you know, the true story, all right? If Joey magg says, that's not that he's a fucking line, and I'll remember those words.

I'm not sure where Joey Maggs's version of the story is printed, but I know we kind of need that. He's going out of his way to talk about Joey Maggs and I don't know why.

But oh, he's got the truth.

Exactly. I mean, we're both pretty messed up, you know, to the point that they got like that. Everybody was I'm not a drinker. I don't drink much. They didn't take a lot of alcohol to get me.

Into a state of or whatever. We can remember it, but that's pretty much how it happened.

Thoughts. I see no holes in his stories whatsoever. He could excellent. I'm glad we agree on that. It's about as iron clad as you can fucking get.

I mean, I think one thing we can we can conclude.

About he's more iron clad than iron Mike Sharp.

And that's saying something. I think one thing we can say for sure about the man after that that version is if there's something, if there's a situation where you know there's tension in the air and you just have to make that one remark that will set the other guy off. Sid is the guy that will always make.

That remark oh yeah, oh yeah. And you know what, I don't think he even consciously knows it can't help. But exactly, I think it's just like a thing like he just this is how he needs to respond, and you know what, this is the truth. Yep, exactly, this is the true.

It's really funny you say that, because later on in his career he would talk a lot about how he would want WWF to talk to his lawyer to negotiate, because he's like, you know what's gonna happen if you deal directly with me. I'm eventually gonna get pissed off. I'm gonna say something that's gonna piss you off, and the whole thing's going to blow up, and I'm gonna be the bad run. So he knows that about himself.

He knows that he just can't help but tell the truth.

So let's do some comparison. He would revisit the story that was the nineteen ninety seven R video shoot interview, the first shoot interview SID ever did, which I would highly recommend to get a flavor of the man when he was, you know, truly in his money earning prime. In a lot of ways in wrestling, it's very rare that you get a star of his caliber doing a shoot interview without you know, the business mostly being in

More truth is what you're telling me. We'll see.

Let's keep our ears especially peeled, and not only you, boss, but everybody listening in the Solar system for any points of contradiction. I'll try to catch them if I hear them, But let's crowdsource this everybody out there too. Feel free to hit us up the lapsed fan at gmail dot com if there's anything you noticed that doesn't quite job what happened.

We got into an argument while we're all waiting on fearing the lot in the bar, we thought it was coming there was actually going to our rooms.

I mean, why does he Why is that an important detail? I'm killing myself trying to figure out what he thinks that does to soften the blow for him.

Any guesses like who care? I mean, I guess that's the reason why they would be upstairs altogether. Yes, yeah, maybe he's trying not like why I guess maybe even like why they'd be out and about, yeah, or why he'd be out.

Of his room potentially not in his ass falling asleep. Yeah, exactly right, Yeah, you're right, you know, I know you're you're helping me realize something. What it probably is is he's probably trying to minimize how drunk he was, because he's giving a reason that they're at the bar, if not to drink, Right, here's a reason to be at the bar. Instead of just getting obnoxiously intoxicated. We're at the bar because we think that's where our food's going to be.

Yep, yep.

So if those sons of bitches had told us where the food was going to be, Arnwood run stabbed. That's that's my Jesus Jesus Christ.

They got brought up, what's frown the business? And everybody said, I've said it out loud, said Flair just needs it, you know, not worry about his job. He's got his job. We all got guaranteed money.

That's way softer than what he said the first time about old man needs to get the fuck out of the way versus don't worry about your job man, And it's all good. We're all winning here.

No that's not what you said. No, we're all we're on the same side here. There's no way with that proviso that arn flies off the handle like that.

Just step back and let somebody else know go forward. You're not you're not getting a pay cut. So I any got upset and hit me in the head with a beer bottle, and so of course, you know, everybody started breaking with the fight, and then we had security there.

So as I'm going to my room.

You know, the security from Charlotte's name is Doug something that came out of tell Enginer, Doug Dillingdry. So they were all out there and arn. Now he cracks the bare bald. He tries to stand you with it. I went, no, motherfucker, this ain't gonna happen.

So I go to my room.

There's a chair in there, and I tear off an arm off of so I'm gonna go back and walking in the head with it. Now I get down. There's nobody in the hallway. Now, so I knock on the door. I hear arms stumbling around. I actually think I hear him fall. I say, he's two drugs. So I take the arm and I toss it the opposite way I'm going.

So now he he says, he tosses it.

Whereas the first instance, if I'm not mistake, and then maybe a closer examination, I might be wrong. But he doesn't never say he throws it. He just points out that it was twenty feet away, right to excuse the possibility that he, you know, initiated the first kind of really serious contact that would perhaps go towards justifying a counter attack with scissors hmmm. This time he threw it down the thing, so you got that on.

He never hit you with it. Do you agree with that? We'll find out.

As soon as I turn to hear the door open and I turned around, he starts going after me. He comes on to me, he gets her closed. I don't really realize him that's where he stick stabs me in the stomach, but he does. I just one time he drops when he drops his feet of my feet, and now on my preferal vision, I see the scissors follow at our feet and he's not No, I didn't knock him out, just enough to knock him off of me.

To the ground.

It's now the he sees the scissors at his feet, whereas I'm pretty sure in the first one he framed it as it fell out of my side and I realized that he was stabbed. Now he doesn't have that. Two different times he realized he was stabbed. Problem and he had the scissors first, right, he had this is first.

Now he lounges for the scissors the second time, and this time I give him first, and then I'm stabbing back because at that point you're thinking it's a.

Life, for it is a life for death. I mean, I don't know what I mean.

I gotta stabbed three times here in my face and once here. But I'll be honest with you, I never realized I was stabbed. I never knew it until when co Scorpio said, I guess it was him. He says, hey, man, you're killing dude. And I had got horned by the back of the neck and I'm stabbed and he may ever work.

Okay, think about that. He's got armed by the back of the neck, having dropped him, and he is just stabbing him.

Can you picture this.

I mean, it's horrifying, just going and going and going blackout. He sees red and he's not gonna stop boss until arn isn't moving anymore. Great guy, you know, definitely definitely nor family man, I mean normal and uh you know, just certainly somebody who knows how to hold their temper.

Yeah, I mean we used to, you say sarcastically. No, I'm dead serious, all right, you know, he's yeah, he's a he's a what do you want? I know where to run?

And when he came into this from the first one, he got close to me failed down at my feet, and when I did, I looked at him, and then out of the corner of my eye, I saw the scissors fall. They were falling out of my stomach. Yep, okay he did.

Yeah.

The first time he said he saw the things fall out of his stomach, and the second the scissors, and the second time he saw them on the.

Floor and hitting him with also not just stabbing him but hitting him as well. And then it hits me.

I'm standing over, I'm going I think it was a scorpio that said he in this position sid is not only stabbing, but he's kicking aren't in the head when he's on the ground.

Can you pick?

Oh my god, those short shin kicks, those Kwada style kickers.

Stuff. Fucking ah. I need your help on the sound of X for this. Oh it's probably something just like.

To let it out, boss. This is your moment you've been you've been looking for this release.

Come on, God, I gets cut into the throat.

I never heard that he's he's stabbed him like twenty times.

I mean, that was that was so much worse than I expected it to be with the sound he came up with, and.

What's going on here? So I takes decision. I'm going other ways.

I could from both of us, so I said, he's hard man, so I reached over to grab him. When I did, blood comes out.

Me.

Hits the wall. Now I realize I'm stabbed as well. So that's when I go to the lobby, and that's where Bader is.

Okay, I'll mention Evader in the first story.

Yeah, and was there ever any legal ramifications of that?

This The thing is, they came to me and said, you know, we want you to press charges. I said, no, I'm not gonna press charges. And then they came back to the next day try to get their press charges. I said, you know what I mean, I'm messed up, and I know he's messed up, so I'm not gonna work. I'm not gonna press charges. And then they said to me he didn't have a scratch onning. I'm so hold on, man, they can't be true, but maybe possible.

So that can't be true, but maybe possible said.

That's that should be the name of his book.

Okay, yeah, I'm gonna press charges if they go back and get the paperwork to come back. Well, that night, the nurse comes in my room and I said something. I said, well, How's how's the She said, how are you doing? I said, okay, your friend's not doing Okay, don't really there's these comps.

Just told me that he didn't.

What what makes this nurse think that that guy is Sid's friend? He just almost killed him?

Yeah?

What I what?

Your friend's not doing? What happened to Harvey's what happened? Yeah? Where's where's Harvin's? Where's Nick? Busick?

And a scratch on him? So I walked down the hall and looked in his room. He was messed up.

So when they came to the next morning, I said, I'm not signing that. Okay, see how life is. So when I get back home, Lawrence excues me. You know. So I had to put a twenty thousand dollars retainer with a lawyer in Charlotte, which she never got a nick of.

And I just had to pay a lawyer to get him no, because he thought it says how I've got money? He doesn't. He's gonna get money you get And that's how that wow implication the war.

That's a Sid shot right there if I've ever heard one.

So I don't know.

In the first instance, he doesn't talk about he says no scratch on him, obviously, but he doesn't really talk about going to look at Arn to confirm visually, you know that visually that he's messed up. You know, he just says, I just dropped the charges in the first interview, right, and the nurse tells you tells him you know your friend's really messed up. So I don't know why you leave that detail out of actually observing the damage before

Yeah right, I was the bigger man.

You know.

Somehow Sid has found a way because aren't actually suited him, As we'll get to that, he was actually the bigger man here because he didn't press charges. I don't you know what, Arn, Why don't you thank Sid? That's the real question. Why doesn't somebody ask Carn and or some one of that that it's I.

Honestly don't understand why why Arn isnngrateful that that Sid attacked him, so he should be gracious and grateful.

I mean he should be grateful that it wasn't worse than it was from a legal perspective.

Yeah, that's true too.

Imagine if Arn had to get detained in England and there had to be you know, transatlantic negotiation to get to get his body back over here. I mean that's the thing. People didn't think Sid enough, and I think that's a big part of the reason that he was so aggressive in Hyper's because no one ever said thank you to the man.

Look what he didn't do.

So I'm going to give you the excerpt now because he mentioned him from Vader's book. Vader has told the story in interviews as well. But he does a nice discinct job, or at least I won't say sync, it's.

A complete job. And when anything about.

Or the Kenny Casanova books, who we we love his stuff. I mean it's a gift from God that he got all these wrestlers in such a detail chronologically on their career before they passed. So shout outs to uh the Look the Vader book, it's called walking on hot waffles. That's just that's what it's called. And standing here right now. I don't remember why, but I think I can take a pretty good guess. Vader walking walking with hot waffles in your belly?

What it should be.

Called walking while on hot waffles?

Walking after consuming?

Yeah about the title, leon, you know, we hear the publisher thought.

Waffles my kind of party. Got it right now? Can you imagine a waffle house when Vader shows up? Jesus, oh, you know exactly. It's like, you know, the sign they're they're like, listen, awful house does not close. We know, it's one of those establishments that just is always open. But they see they see, you.

Know, it's known as the Vader clause out there in the rocky mountains.

They see the the fucking vehicle, you know, shake its way up to the door, all right, and it's like and it stops, like it's actually, you know, it just kind of purrs for a little while in in you know, and they're like, oh shit.

When you watch the grin Shoes told Christmas this year, I want you to think of it as that's how Vade comes down down his mountain, yes, exactly, in his fucking snow cat, all right, and he comes and then and then the motor turns off, and now all the employees panic because they thought for sure they had a night off.

Yeah, exactly.

The scene is like everyone looking out the kind kind of Florida ceiling window, looking out the huge ass windows onto the parking lot in a state of like stun silence, and then.

Or even better, even better, you know, but beforehand, this is what happens. So the SnowCat drives up to the parking lot, does not enter the parking lot yet, and it just kind of waits outside the parking lot. Yes, and everyone, every all the employees of walf House, they fucking they stare and they're like, oh no, and you just try the tight shot on all their faces, and you hear the low rumble and they're just watching it. Is it gonna go straight? Or is it gonna take

He makes the turn in the parking lot, and they're still holding out hope that maybe he's not coming in.

Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. And then yeah, then it just stops. It gets a parking spot, right out front, so you don't show that.

All you show is the looks on the faces of like six waffle house members looking out the window.

And like close ups of the headlights, yeah, you know, close up to the of the headlights, like those are the eyes of Vader. It's touch right, and then and then and then you get like a shot. So imagine the shot. Okay, you get your wide screen you know, your wide screen frame. On the left side of the frame, you have a massive close up of the uh one of the driver's side headlight. Okay, it like almost fills

Lock the fucking door, Lock the fucking door.

Before he gets here, and you get the manager. He like he does one of those like like a you know, a nineteen seventies cop show, sliding over the over the the the the counter all right, with the keys, and he's racing, racing, racing, and he's about to fucking insert the key into the lock, and all of a sudden, the door just slams open and the manager flies ten feet in the air.

It's like the first time we see zeus and no holds bar exactly.

What the fucking waffles?

Why are you already mad that you don't have them? You just walked in the restaurant. At least give us a chance to, like, you know, prepare your order.

He's shut your damn mouth all about fucking waffles.

Now he picks up like the you know, they have the syrup containers on every He picks them up and starts chucking them like fastballs over the counter.

He's throwing them, throwing them with his right hand and with his left hand he's drinking it.

Disgusting, absolutely repulsive, the amount of.

And then he grabbed like like two of them, and you know, he clashed them together and they shatter.

The amount of butter and syrup that he put on his waffles. I mean, can we take a.

Moment, you know what I mean?

Can think of it.

It's just it's really it's it's syrup soup and and it's like it's like a bowl of soup, but it's it's it's maple syrup and butter and the waffles are the crackers. That's what it's like.

Hey, what episode did they talk about like the cinematic qualities of Vader going to the waffle house? Oh, that's Sid Tribute Part three. And he goes he goes in the back of the fucking uh uh. You know, he like storms his way through. He's like flipping tables over. He's three, He's like just tossing employees left and right. Is he ever gonna realize that this never gets him food faster?

To do this?

You like injuring all the people who can help me, who can help make this a smooth process. But he's so fucking and he gets to the back and there's like, you know, there's like one there's like one like sixty year old retired chef. All right. You know, he just works at waffle house because he loves to cook and it's an opportunity to get out of the house. He's just this old man who just like, you know, he just likes being around the kids and and helping out.

Maybe the fucking eggs, old man, Stop beating a bitch.

Feed my mouse exactly. That's the one thing if you want to avoid this happening, stop being a bitch. Right. Why doesn't that ever recur to these people? They get victimized time and time again, and they never decide maybe I should turn my bitch meter down a little bit. I'm gonna throw your face on the grid. Old man, I'm gonna eat you.

Starts pouring syrup on him while he's preparing the food, like countdowns on brother, and he's pouring it on his head and while he cooks.

Well, I get to tell me they're eating waffles or I'm eating your face. All right, it's a T shirt. Write it down.

I'm either eating waffles or your face. And then you know what to do graphically. You know what to do graphically.

I think I don't know.

Can you fit that those those words in the waffle house yellow square sign?

Sure can? And did we name? Did we title Vader's book Walking on Hot Waffles?

No?

So don't come at us about this. Oh my god, you put it on the table, among other things. So if he's going to stuff the hole in his face, he's also going to stuff the hole in Sid's side. Now we turn it over to the boscoon or a reading from Vader's book about this fateful night in Sid's life and career.

Now, before I place judgment on either Sid or arm on what has gone down in history as one of the scariest behind the scenes wrestling fights. Ever, you have to put all this together in terms of quote, where and tear. I have to I would puddle with that Leon. I kind of I don't don't have to do, I say, I kind of don't want to. For that matter, I kind of don't have to think of that as a

Tourist bell, Yeah, especially with him on them. Yeah, the road was getting the best of all of us, The roads. Blame it on the road.

You sure it wasn't a third bus full of booze.

I'm just saying, yeah, it wasn't alcoholism that kind of prompted all drugs and alcohol that was getting the right of you. No, it's the road, because the road doesn't allow you to detox at it. If I was asked to go on the stand and testify today, I would have to put the blame entirely.

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WCW get indicted for this stabbing.

That's what Vader would have done, all right. WCW beat the living hell out of us so bad it felt like they were trying to kill us. We had already been on the road for ten days straight with no breaks, so we were exhausted. To top it off, we finished a daytime shot in Florida, and oh, I see, and then had a hurry off to our next gig in England. So I'm like, Florida is not in Europe, pal But I see where he went with.

That, and he finished off a whole lot of other shots on the plane.

Because of your damn right. We showered quickly, got dressed, darted up off to the airport, turned up, turned in our rental, and got ready to board. Everyone was dressed up nice, you know, with nice clothing and leather coats on, because that's what WCW expected of us for international flights in case we were spotted by any fans along the way. Wouldn't wouldn't you want to be in your gear if you want to be spot on my fans.

That's not exactly the most comfortable traveling I.

Mean, but why suits and nice clothing and shit? Yeah?

God forbid the fans see these guys as like, you know, human beings, human beings or like you know, low rent, low lifes, because that would be the truth.

Like you know, like why don't you have like cut off sweats and shit like wou I imagine you guys wear around the house. This was no big deal, but it means we were also not in our most comfortable attire for travel. Yeah, but it's not like a moo mood. It's not comfortable for Vader. Yeah right, Well, I don't know.

I mean, I kind of get what he's saying, because you know, like when I go to a wedding, like you know, I accept that I'm going to be uncomfortable. You know, I'm out of respect. I'm gonna be a little stuffy, a little you know, tired. It's not going to be sure what I would wear. And yeah, when I when I wear uncomfortable clothes, do I want to stab someone nearly to death?

Do I go to do it? No, that's the question. Do you actually do it? Or is it just the thought?

I think I understand why he says WCW is at fault here because they were making them wear a dress clothes on a road trip. And so you know, how are you going to how are you gonna a surprized when someone gets stabbed?

I don't now let me ask you this though, were there any like I don't know WCW like suits that were enforcing this rule like someone is basically is someone taking photos of them every day and like faxing it back to Atlanta saying here just to make sure we know they got they had their their formal attire on during all travel.

I would love to know what the leverages they have to enforce that like.

And if I don't guess because to me, right because to me, once you cross the ocean, fuck you, I'm not wearing anything.

That checks in the mail, and there's no way the contracts say if you don't wear slacks, well we can cut.

Your right during travel. Right, if you don't wear slacks, a tucked in button down shirt and a and a and a you know, Armani blazer, then you will be docked one quarter your pay.

And you know what's really funny about all this. I don't doubt what Vader saying that WCW did have this weird dress code and stuff. But I'll bet you, I bet I bet substantial money that on this tour they relaxed that rule and he's just folding in that grievance. To to England. If you saw them on that bus, he was. He was in a hoodie and sweat ryans.

Oh yeah, absolutely, like passed out with the fucking you know, with old school headphones around is you know, totally so nobody but it means'll come before boarding. They set us up and they set up in this lounge with a bunch of cocktails. We all got to drinking and getting a primer on for the flight. I don't know they were painting. That's nice, Yeah, I know, I know. That's really the problem with wrestlers. Is what when you take these big road trips that require long layovers and long

And the only reasons didn't always happen is because the road trips were never quite long enough to get that bomb before you had to, you know, move on to the next leg of the journey, right right, We all.

Got to drinking and getting a primer for the flight, adding alcohol to the mix. Guys were swapping pain pills and getting pretty messed up. We weren't even on the plane yet. And I remember one guy got up and put his headband on, then fell face first right into right back into his seat. Okay, this is how So he put a headband on and then fell face first right back into the seat. Okay, this is how bad things were getting. Once boarding time hit, we divvied up,

Can you imagine and I know he just said he didn't sit and coach, so but can you imagine sitting on a commercial airliner and coach and there's an empty seat next to you, and you see Vader coming for the seat.

Yeah, or can you imagine that? Like, you know, you're like, please don't please not not here, No, no, no. Think of how big he is. Oh god, I mean he'd probably have to get a whole row for himself. Yeah, absolutely awful. We all we Oh yeah, actually a bunch of assholes, for sure. We fly all the way over there, got off the plane and got right into a bus to travel four more hours on one of the bumpiest roads the United Kingdom had to offer. Nobody got any

I think he's trying to say it's hard to fall asleep when the sun's up.

Okay, but you could just say it's afternoon, like the days are gone. I could have. Yeah, I don't know, Like it's just weird. We did another daytime show. Yes, we just wrestled one and travel all that way without any sleep. Then we rushed out there to catch a bus for another eight hour trip to the next town. I was physically exhausted. I was bitching to everyone who would listen about all but all are running around we were doing saying now, wait a minute, a minute, it's

Look, if i'm you know, in charge of this crew, like give them the beer because I don't want to be there when they get sick of not being able to sleep at hour four, you know, at least give.

The thing to do. Absolutely drunks, maybe some of those two. Yeah, the the The bus ride was brutal. It was tight and uncomfortable and by no means could you sleep on such a vehicle. The boys made the best of it. We had run out of food at some point. Oh I know what that is. Oh, and everyone just started drinking beer on an empty stomach. Yet another formula for disaster. We drove way up in the highlands or some damned

Yeah, that that's what happens when wrestlers get all prideful about geography and knowing geography, but they actually don't know anything. They don't remember any of the details. Oh yeah, there's the Highlands that that hip flies when you're telling people back home. But right do you put it in print, you realize you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

I'm what was probably the second bumbiest road in all of England. I mean to look back at it now, all I can say is wow, I couldn't have done this today. Somewhere along the ride. I would just have had a heart attack and died. Yeah, it was just too much to ask of us. And it's no wonder sitting an arm were easily at arms.

I think he means at odds, but maybe I don't think so at.

Arms, like you know, they're not. I mean, yeah, I don't even know where the hell they took me, But we ended up in front of a nice hotel we finish up, which finished the trip frazzled and worn, then finally headed to our hotel. It was getting late and everybody wanted to just rush up to their rooms and crash. However, we were all starving with nothing but beer in our bellies. One of the boys, I don't remember who it was, insisted they opened the bar up for us so we could get some food.

He would later say it with Steve Austin that that wouldn't do that.

Oh really yeah.

He told Hannibal in the shooting interview time that what actually happened was he walked in and saw that somehow, even though the bar was supposed to be closed, that Steve Austin had gotten dope in the bar and was basically sitting there by himself.

Oh yeah, God, damn, Well, throw a back, a couple of cold ones, you don't mind. We've just been on the road about fifteen hours, coming from Florida all the way up to down here to the Highlands. Just gonna throw a few back before we go up stations and go to bed.

To give the man what he wants. Nigeln't give the man what he wants.

Uh, oh shit, We'll just give ones.

Yeah.

We haven't spent enough time thinking about the staff in this hotel, have we?

I know we have not.

We have not addressed what they're thinking and saying. Uh, Chris, Chris, is it is?

It?

Truely?

Got a bunch of wrestlers coming in tonight and they're all, uh, you know, they're all. They're all. I don't even know, they're all a bunch of blokes, just you know, just they look they look very hungry.

Now these like Olympic wrestlers. Are these like the television wrestlers?

Though?

No, No, it's all the fake stuff like Big Daddy, Yeah, and uh the you know the h it's like pat roach for that matter, and I from uh, I'll feed the saint pitt.

You know what I'm talking about.

It's pat roach that kind of wrestling.

Now, ye, big fan, So I'm taking on John Haystacks walking back in the day.

But in fact, there were several roaches on that damn bus. I'd just ta't give me a cold beer, son, Why don't.

You give me a couple of a couple of cold ones. I can throw him back around now before I have to bed hit that hit.

Hit?

What hit that? What hit that single six? What hit that single six pot four mattress that you got up here?

And key detail, critical detail. Unlike all other Austin imitations, he's got the stunning Steve haircut.

That's right, dies. Oh and you know, and you know, after after fucking traveling this long you know, like there are just there are some of these hairs that are just totally totally out of place. Yeah. Yeah, the back of it has gone rogue. Yes, yes, yeah, he's got like it's like he's got almost like a like a like a fan of hair, you know.

Yeah, like the part is still there. But when it comes to that, the.

Part's permanent, you know, because of the way it's cut. That part is permanent, because he's got the the one inch side and then he's got the longer side. The weirdest sucking air cut of all time. Uh, it was another night, but we didn't give a shit, right, I can only imagine the manager was pissed us already. Uh shit, Well all right, man, I suppose you can im Do we have any of those? Do you have any meat pies? I think we've got someone in the freezer, you know that.

There were fifty steak and ale pies waiting for the rest of There we go, There we.

Go and h blood sausage pies and whatever else, kidney pies, whole fucking thing. Salisbury Maryland steak. Oh yes, we all would just you know, just the most wonderful processed crust you could possibly imagine. We all sat down on the tables. I burned a pretty nice looking bar and ordered some food. We were all anxious, and one of the food surface fast as they could. The boys were beat. You could see it on their faces. Man, this trip really sucks

Right?

A bunch of wrestlers think they're getting screwed on a pay day. I don't leave it. They started comparing notes talking about paydays. About that time, SID said something like, you know, one of my one of the problems is she got an old man named Rick Flair who needs to get the hell out of the way. The room got silent. Yeah, is it nothing in there?

You notice about Sid saying you know you got guaranteed money, Rick?

I mean yeah?

Uh.

He said something that most of us were thinking. It wasn't that he what he said was shocking.

It was who.

He said it in front of Sid continued, you all know what. Rick Flair is the one that has taken all our money, and that's why we're bitching right now. He really needs to step aside unless some of us get some Everybody looked across the table. That is something you don't say. In front of Rick Flair's longtime partner and Four Horsemen stablemate Arn Anderson, Arn stood up and started arguing with Sid. It got so heated that Arn through a beer in his face. They went at each other.

Man.

I really want to grab somebod to eat. Oh it does, man, I really want to grab somebody eat. I said, Shit, I'm just gonna have to. I'm just gonna have some hash in my room. Shit, big hash. The thing is Scorpio wasn't talking about food. I'm out out of my man either. Scorpio admits this in interviews today. He doesn't give a shit. That's right. We heard it earlier. I was smoking that big fucking hash. He said, that's right, big fucking hand. What a detail would lose? That's that big.

You know.

It's like, you can smoke hash or you can smoke big fucking hash. Amazing, and you're telling which one's more satisfying. I laughed. I wandered around a bit looking for my room. Later on I found out that Sit and Arn got into it again. On the way to their rooms. There were only about four or five doors away from each other, and as they started to bring their stuff in, they saw each other. Sid says. At this point, Arn broke a beerd bottle and threatened to cut Sid with that

Take hey, Steve Hall me on, don't don't make don't don't't even make it my room yet. Don't even make it in my room yet. I hey, there, don't blame you all was running around.

I don't know.

I don't blame you all was running around. You're gonna you'll pull up have a coal when I'm buying. It's in the book.

You just said it.

You just said what he really said. It not to be one to turn down free beer, I replied.

Man, maybe I'll drop on my bags off my room and I'll take you about it.

I'll be here, yes, he said, nursing a bottle. He was just having a few beers to unwind, you know, after the long ride of torture. So I brought my bag up to my room and quickly changed into some night clothes. Now I was beat after walking around the hotel. I don't blame him.

Yeah, no shit, you know he needed a few beers to unwide from the long bus trip that had beer on board.

Yeah, exactly that. He's already drinking beer. You know. I think I laid down for a minute and probably passed out. I'm not sure how long I was asleep, but it probably didn't last long. Maybe I figured beer was waiting for me with a few drinks and that would help me sleep better. Next thing I know, I snapped to it and Steve and I are sitting there at the bar alone having a beer. I don't even remember leaving

Steve says, no, there were there four star hotel in England and out of nowhere comes a four and twenty pound man and nothing but his nothing but his.

Tied of whities. Yep, he says. He looked me over for only a few seconds and hmm, and then he shrugged it off. Hey man, what's going on? Unbelievable. Only wrestlers say, oh no, I couldn't see. I want a beer. The thing is Steve was out of it. Not only do you have to endure the same exact trip that I had, but he already had a few beers and him on top of that, his judgment had to be

What the hell that knows?

Sid didn't say anything. That memory serves me well. I didn't realize that he was hurt until I looked down, either just to the left of his belly button or just to the right. Sid had a dark, nasty hole in him. Wow, the size of a penny, and a black trickle started to pull spill out under the floor. He wasn't doing the Frankenstein walk and couldn't He was doing the Frankenstein walk and couldn't hear me. I shook him and looked him in the looked him in the eye, Sid.

As they broke off the leg and threw it down the hallway.

Yeah, and pulled it up to Sid's paling body. I got eye level with the deep laceration and sat down. I said, Sid, you gonna trust me? Okay, don't move. Are you're gonna die? Sid looked like a like you saw ghost. He didn't speak, but watched me measure each of my fingertips up to the open spout on his stomach.

Fucking he's saving a man's life. Listen, I'm with you, but don't compare yourself to the little Jack like. You don't need to do that at this point. Just save his fucking life.

Compare yourself the tim Horner. Maybe, Yeah, there you go, and pushed. It was more like the legend of Hans Brinka. You know the story of the little Dutch boy who saves his country from a flood by sticking his finger in a leaking dike. Ex I thought you stuck your finger and sid The boy stays there all night in spite of the cold, until the adults of the village

Said, I don't know you're poort hot over here? The hell's going on? God, damn Vador, What are you sticking this som in there for?

Can we take a moment to reconsider the hotel staff? Okay, the wrestlers come in, Yes, crack of dawn. Convince them to force them to open the bar.

Yes.

One wrestler, the biggest, nastiest, smelliest guy you've ever seen in your life, comes out with nothing but brief brief song essentially, or boxers on and sit to the bar and complete violent.

Imagine Okay again just just picture him. But you're lean, white, stumbling in a daze with nothing but box your brief song.

No problem in a swanky hotel bar after you know, a nine hour road trip. They see that the hall already, the inconvenience already, the breach of protocol already, and they finally makes peace with it somehow. And then here comes another wrestler, and he has shattered two glass doors.

On the way down.

According to too gold Scorpio, he is walking like a zombie and he is squirting projectile blood out of his side a mile away, and the wrestler without a shirt on is tackling him to the floor and sticking his thumb in the hole. And this is my night at work, Neville.

See what they couldn't do? Nover? There is some man sticking the thumb in a man's body.

Is he.

Is he hurt?

Well?

I think the gent is hurt. I thought, you know, I don't mean to be insensitive at this time, but I thought all the ship was fiting.

Oh that's a hell. We need we need some help. My friend here is really in dire straits. He's bleeding all over the place. Wait, the tricks of the trades we were quite familiar.

And we do you mean you mean quote unquote really he's putting that end quotes are he's bleeding again? More ketch up? Maybe? Yeah? The blood package. Keeping your trunks? What you do you keep me in your trunks when you travel? That's pretty good. That's pretty good. It's it's probably a smart move. You never know when you get to kind of, you know, convince the fans, you know your base worked at this hotel. Okay, it's pretty good, it's pretty good. It's pretty pretty convincing. Take a look

Never Yeah, fancy that they even find a way to make it smell like iron smell smell.

The blood, I think, you know that's what. It's crazy, that's very you got you guys met you guys melt like copper or something like that, and you put it inside the blood capsules that you do because like homemade. But that's fantastic. You're not going to help my friend, are you? What it's like? What understand?

What?

What do you want to help? Someone I know doesn't need helping because he's just faking. You got your own Jack Horner here. That would be you know, look at that, look at you know, it's it's like I can see it. I can see he's folded his thumb over. He's not taking his thumb in there. I've seen magic tricks. I've seen David Copperfield. Listen that I'm more about the illusion, all right, listen't he listen. I'll tell you what. Honestly, the secret safe with me, right, I won't tell you

Fast forward eight hours after the shift, Nigel arrives back at the flat. It was an overnight, so it's like eight am, and he makes it accustomed to keep you know, household harmony, to have you know, maybe a twenty thirty minute conversation with his wife in the kitchen after she's brought the kids to school about how his day was. Before he sleeps, you know, for the you know, for the morning, to prepare for the next shift, and she's

Bybe I gotta tell you something. I'll tell you something that was just totally totally bunkers. Yeah, I'm just you know, just you know, usually overnight shift, you know, it's kind of peaceful. She's pretty quiet. You know, nobody, he know, nobody really crazy walks in. But all of a sudden, you know, here we are, and all of a sudden, this this bus pulls up right, his buss pull up was it's always fucking wrestless.

And I don't know, I don't exaggerate what I say. It looked like an unload and unloading of a clown car. At the ceremony, It's like it's like a it's like a fucking circus. Here comes hulking masses, all shapes, sizes, all colors and creeds, and they're coming straight for us, and they demand food and they demand drink.

Babe, you've never seen men with heads this big. They're gigantic. It's fucking crazy. And they come in and they're fucking hungry. They're already drunk, but they want more drink. They want the bar open, you know, they want the bar open, and you know, here we are, like, you know, we cleaned up already. There you kind of put it so, you know, I talked to you know, I talked to Nigel and he said, you know, just just give them some fucking you know, give them some of the meat pies.

Yeah, they're gonna put it on for everybody because you know, you know, when they're on TV, they got it.

They're like, oh, yeah, I hate you, I hate you.

But my grandfather used to watch the grandfather just watched a bit. Remember Daddy was number A.

Yeah, you got big Daddy and you got the you know, I mean you've seen you've seen pat roach bomba yeah, you know. And then all of a sudden, you know that all right, that they do their thing and they go to their rooms and I'm thinking, all right, I'm just gonna, you know, close up shop, if you will, And all of a sudden, they put on another show.

I was like, what the fuck is this?

They put on another show for all of us.

It was.

It was absolutely insane. It was so fucking wild.

They went to the trouble of calling the fuzz and having them come to the hotel and actually they arrest some of these people. It was the most realistic thing you've ever seen.

Jane. Let me tell you. I want to tell you something, right, they actually put in They told me this. They melt pennies, American pennies. They melt American pennies, and they put in their blood caplets so it smells like iron. That's now, I'll tell you what, you know what, that's commitment. I've seen a lot of commitment in a lot of different places, but that was fucking commitment. I mean, it was chaos

What the fuck?

This was one of the most craziest nights of my life. I don't even know that heads off school went fine. That's great, that's great.

I think you've had a quite quite eventful night there.

Usually I make we'll get a couple of winks in when i'm you know, just because it's you know, overnight shift. You know, not much happens, and so I usually get a couple of winks in before you're during the middle of the shift. But this time, I'll tell you with these, with these, with these fucking.

Winkers, sounds stress sounds stressful. Hand, but at least at least one thing, at least we can hold on to one thing, you know what that is?

What's that? It's all fake?

Yeah, I will say, you know, the one. The one good thing is we got a couple of shows out of it, you know, a couple of free shows. So and I don't need to go see that fake shit anymore.

And that's for a while.

Sid and Vader and the rest cost WCW two customers in the United Kingdom on that night. That was the real tragedy. For all the work they put in.

Eh, there's some funny shit. They yeah, that's right, Sorry, Leona, we interrupted you. Yeah, uh o, condamn. The only difference in the case was this hole was a little more gross and a lot more red. I slowly eased my thumb into that hole. God don't google this. Yeah, blood oozed out down my wrist and I paid it no mind. I pushed my I pushed my digit higher up in that gaping slit.

Jesus, calm down, dude, I'm trying to make yourself calm.

Writing this sounds he just gotta being. When he put his cock in the hole, look, my mind went there. I mean said, say, I'm putting my fucking cock in your hole. And then, as if that wasn't outrageous enough, he takes out his wing man. Look, the big elephant man, the big beastie one with the with the skivvies. He fucking takes his pants down, all right, and he acts like he's putting his cock in a fucking hole in the fucking wound, the fake wound. He's sticking his cock

That's the craziest part of this whole thing is I got a sandwich on the way home. That's how gotten too. I was why all this.

Because you know I don't like to eat, you know, before I go to bed in the morning, so you know when I worked to not shift, but I couldn't help myself. I was so worked up. I'd to go and I got myself a cheese on white bread. That's fucking delicious.

Oh shit, Uh, blood oozed out down my wrist and I paid it no mind. I pushed my dish higher up into his gaping, hurting me. He said, with his knees beginning to buckle under him. You gotta take it, said, you gotta take it now.

On I wriggled it around, and why are you making it worse, dude, Yeah, it move it around a little bit, like just stick it in and stop moving.

Hand.

He's got it. I wriggled it around and and one real thick glob hung off of my wrist like a roasted I know, I know, I remember this part, Oh my god, like a roasted red pepper. I finally got in there a little bit more and the hole conformed around my knuckle.

And then I found a fucking uh Publano pepper, and then I found a clove of garlic.

All of a sudden, there were there were peppers all over the floor.

Because I was eating with my other hand, because I had a back of peppers on my right.

I always give a back of peppers by my side.

The damnedest thing I ever saw, you know how, I said, Leon at one point got a little hungry order to Casadia. I shit you not, son, he's got one hand in Sid's fucking, you know, uh bottomless pit hole on the side of his body.

Other hand eating the case.

Of goddamn, he's gonna, you know, he's he's gonna gonna stump up on Sid's hole on one side all the shot. He's got a bag full of catching dish, and I said, damn song, whatere'd you get the goddamn ketch.

I'm worried about eating, and I'm looking at this thing. I'm sizing it up, and I'm thinking, I can't get more absurd than this. This is the tableau of the century. And then I look down. I realized, No, there's one more absurdity to it. Not only does he have his finger in sids hole, not only does he have a case of d in his other hand.

He's hard. Well, that's the damn damn thing about it.

All of a sudden, looked down and he's gonnas fucking cock, hard as a rock, poking through his damn kivvyes.

I assure you it was the case of DIA. They got him hard and not the other thing. Absolutely it was. Looking listen, sticking his finger into a wet hole is not something that gets Leon White excited. I mean, that's something, but you but you get melted cheese on a tortilla. And now we're talking business. Oh my god, I mean, I'll just come out hard right now. Instead of calling for help for Sid, he's calling for help for the fact that because both of his hands are occupied, he

Talk me down, someone to talk about cockdown. I got my finger in sin, I got my handle and kissing deal. I need help putting my cock down.

Just lifted up, rested against my stomach and then put my waistband right under the head. He's seven touch leon. I mean, Jesus Christ, this thing is like forty feet in circumference.

Fucking such a nightmare. And I was the first.

I took that from Tropic Thunder when he's shooting out of the roof of the jeep. He loves shooting so much that I think it's Ben Steeller looks at his crusches.

Are you hard? Awesome? There's nothing funnier than an erection in a situation like that. Yeah, yeah, when something completely irregular right causes a fucking boner.

So thank god Vader was there. I think is the long and short of it.

Uh.

I wriggled around and got it. I finally got in there a little bit more. No, it slowed the bleeding enough and we waited. Steve Austin came up to the scene. It must have looked like the darnest thing, with me staring at my penetrated thumb in Sid's gut and blood trickling out all over the place. He turned his.

He turned his head away from the horror. Gag, goddamn, goddamn. So, what the hell's going on here? Oh, I'll go get help. I waited there for what seemed like an eternity. Neither of us talked.

I could feel the warm, wet goo rolling off my wrist and it was the worst thing. Hand.

God damn said, you got to go on my Casindea, No, it's the cheese. You're right still looking at chee. I got melted cheese on my kids, It on my hand.

Goddamn you said, I got melt the cheese on my case of dia. He almost said that in that moment, Steve, I got melt the cheese on my case of.

Melted cheese about Cassa, fuk am I going to.

Do anything else relevant you want to tell me?

In this.

I remember looking down and seeing some of the thick like syrup droplets on the floor. Finally we heard some commotion of people rushing down the hall. I'm happy to say that my thumb kept him alive until the ambulance came. W CW should have taken some of the blame here, he goes, I get it for driving us batshit crazy like they did with the schedule, but of course they didn't. The next day I got some more of the story. Sitting on Anderson got into a major fight after we

He said it, said it, honey, they said, you know, they said that one of them was stabbed twenty times.

Something.

They were superficial wounds at best. You're not going to kidney as to whether this was a real attack.

I don't know, you said, tell me something. I'm aware that there were some of those American carnival workers that were doing some of those fixed matches and up up north. Is that what I heard? Yes, yes, well all right, I don't believe that we can support such a buffoonery,

Yeah, that's a key detail, Vader, missus there. They were not deported for the fight. They were deported for consumer fraud.

And we must tell the Americans we don't allow fraudulents in the United Kingdom.

Next morning, Precinct, the the fuzz whatever they call themselves, the net wond Hi, I'm calling. I'm calling from a newspaper New York.

Hey.

Hey if Britain. Hey, Look, I'm I've worked for I worked Look, I worked for a major major American publication. Ah, so let me tell you, let me ask you something. You guys holding a bunch of fucking fake wrestlers. They were deported last night. If that's what you're referring to can you tell me exactly? You know, I'm listening. I'm I'm doing a story on them. You know, there are a bunch of us working on this particular story about really we want to expose the me that means the

What is the publication? What what is the name of the publication?

Uh? The City Light? Okay, the city Well, I worked for the I worked for the the Binghamton Independent Gazette.

Oh I thought it was the City Tell Peter follow I said, Hi, please go ahead.

Yeah, sure, sure, sure, So listen. What I want to know is, can you give me any information? You know, we understand that a couple that a group of Americans was was supported. Yes, yes, last night and can you listen. I just I was wondering if you wouldn't mind going on the.

Record for to let us know exactly and in terms of what the last night we did respond to a hotel in Blackmon. I believe it was where we had received reports of a of a violent altercation and and and the lobby involving two wrestlers from what I believe was the the w c W organization and when officers arrived.

So do you know what the you know what this w W thing is? Are you aware of what this is? But how do you mean do you know what this is? Not? American Company w what they what they do? What they are?

They do?

The theatrical wrestling there the we used to call it World of Sport.

Here we call it world of nothing because he doesn't exist. It's a fake thing. It's bullshit.

What he goes after the cop. This guy couldn't be any less responsible for this.

So can you can you can you repeat after me that what you what they were doing was fake.

I'd be glad to do that, sir. Are you gonna quote say it?

Say? Yeah, I'm gonna quote you what they do is fake? Yes, it is. I'm glad. I'm glad you want to put that in the story.

I don't want to.

Think me Listen to me. Listen to me. Listen. If you thought it was real, I'd be fucking flying over there right now and beating the ship out of you with my bare hands. Yes I would. I would because you know why, because everybody who fucking buys this ship and watches this ship needs to be fucking beaten up what you're doing from a consumer fraud point. Listen, all right, so you gotta tell me something. You gotta tell me why were they deported?

They were deported for committing incredible huh, almost inconsortably violent acts on you case.

No, no, see, this is what happens. This is what happens. Even the fucking idiot British police have been fooled and fucking bamboozled by these motherfucker That's what happens, sir. I'm I'm telling you exactly that nothing about it was real. What you saw, the figments of your imagination, they weren't men, they were illusions. That's how fake this ship is. That's how deep it goes.

You.

You, good police officer, you have been fucking hoodwinked. You have you've had listen, you don't know what you're talking about.

He calls this guy for information, and he's barely said a word and he's already been accused of not knowing what he's talking about. Well, sir, with all due respect, if you know what happens, then.

You shut the fuck up and you understand something here. What you need to do is execute them.

You need to go around and find every one of these fucking carnival bitches, and you need to fucking put them up on a fucking wall and have them a fucking firing squad eliminate them. That's the only way you can save the fucking United Kingdom from complete fall.

Well, they did say, a couple of them. I did overhear them saying they were shooting each other.

I don't quite know exactly. You need to shoot them first look, And I know there's a whole fucking industry out there over there with these fucking these fucking uh you know, theatrical bitches. Something I have it tells very healthy crowds here. Yeah.

No, No, there's the thing. They're not healthy mentally speaking. They're unhealthy. They've been brainwashed and they're thinking what they're seeing is both real and or entertaining.

How is it? How is it healthy to be to think that you're being entertained when you're actually not being entertained. Huh. I don't have a response to that, right, nobody should, because nobody should ever be entertained by someone that's not entertaining, and these guys are not entertaining. So what would you like me to do? Exactly? Gin? Can? I Can I do anything else? I said what I want you to do. I want you to find all these fucking fake athletes and dispose of them permanent.

I thought you're representing a news organization calling finn.

I am not presenting a news organization, and I'm gonna write the story about it, but I need you to do your part and take care of the people of England and then I'll write about it. How are you fucking save lives?

Look, you have all the basis union to move in on these fucks. They came to your country and they created chaos. They spilled blood all over one of your finest hotels. They showed no regard for local customs, They walk around without shirts on.

What more do you need?

I mean, they are a disgrace to the public. It should be disgrace to you, and I want you to know that with my last breath on earth. Finish the sentence, and I'm gonna tell you something. If it takes me until I breathe my last breath, it is I'm going to destroy every single one of these motherfuckers. And then I'm going to destroy you because you've been no help whatsoever. Fuck you, and fuck the United Kingdom. Click marsh neck, get in here, we gotta talk.

Ah.

Are you done with the baby from New York Post?

He's He's not a sixteen minutes producer? Is that the end of the Vader excerpt?

Umm?

No, okay, yeah, we still haven't gotten to the part if you can believe it, where sid owes him his life.

Yes, yeah, uh well Sid took some very different both mens for the night in the hospital and we're deported the next day. Says the UK wanted nothing more to do with our fuck up be American bullshit. They canceled a bunch of the dates from the tour. Some might have thought that we as a whole would have been reprimanded for all the drinking, but that wasn't the case. Actually, this is one of the few times I was singled out by the administration and praise hey, good job, Leon,

He's a wrestling podcast.

He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno and JP Sorowe.

He's walking on waffles.

All right, Absolutely, that's story. So Sid, what do you say? He was once dasked about this by Hannibal, and you know this is your chance. You know, Vader says you never thanked him for saving your ass, saving your life, and saving arm from going to jail and all the rest, and this being ten times worse than it was.

Oh, can I guess that Sid actually put his own thumb in his wound? Well something like that, and we.

Will ask you about to go into that incident more in our video interview with you, because we actually interviewed Vader not too long ago and he told us about a ten minute version of the story.

So this is the thing is that I'm not going to go into it right now. Either nobody knows a ten minute version because he didn't fucking take ten minutes. Yeah, it took just a couple of minutes. And Vader's little fucking fat crowd baby ass was in the in the lobby, you know, he wouldn't even where where the scuffle wash.

You know, we did lobby about it, and he only told us. He didn't go into the details about it. He only went into about a two minute version and just basically said what you said he saw.

Yeah, that's what it was. It happened so fast, you know. And again we'll tip our hand into order to get into it right now, but they really did. It was knocking the door. The guy came out attacking me. I hated one time he went down, the scissors got in my hand, and then that's the rest of the story.

Great, so not so much thanks for saving my life, but more you're a fat, cry baby piece.

Of shit, Vader. I don't see any problem with that.

Unbelievable and we got more than he bargained for out of that clip. Not only did we get said responding to Vader's version of events. Now, apparently two Cold Scorpio was never even involved in the fracas as he framed at the top of this episode. According to CID, he was just watching. He didn't get physically involved and trying to stop at or break it up, so he wasn't hands on in the matter at all. At least we

Oh my god.

The man suffered deep cuts to his head, chest, buttocks, legs and abs in the fight and was rushed to a nearby hospital for treatment. Okay, so got a mirror image of the of the episode that he claimed to be right in the midst of that's wild. So finally on our well, at least in multiple perspectives. Here part of the story.

Let's turn to Colonel Rob Parker, Oh boy.

As mentioned close allegiance with Sid. Sid gets him his job in WCW, gives him his gimmick. And this is just a few months after the clip we played where Parker and Sid debut, if you want to put it that way, at Slamboury nineteen ninety three in the spring. Now we're in October. But here's the thing. Colonel Parker is not in England with the crew because, as Parker told Hannibal in a shoot interview, he doesn't have a passport expressly, so no one can force him to go

Yeah, that's probably that right.

And when you hear him tell the story, it kind of sounds like a story he would have gotten from Steve Austin, who, of course he managed in WDCW as well.

On now.

Try to laugh it off. And it went on and on, and Arn threw a drink at him, and uh and uh.

Altercation ensued there and here come the agents and everybody, and they just close the bar. They said, all of the guys that'll go back to the room and get out of here. And it's into that and so they go back to their rooms. And Arn's going in there, and he's trimming up his beard and working on his beard. And we get a little pair of scissors. And Sid goes back to a room and h tears up a chair, takes the leg off the chair and goes down to him Art's room, and and uh, and Arnes is trimming.

He hears a knock at the door. He goes to the door, doing a little hole.

It's Sid.

And Sid says, a little hole. It's Sid.

I never even thought of out him looking through a key hole. Oh, I mean that's just something else. Yes, I have to beg your forgiveness. I think I failed to set this bite to continue, so I'm to start over again here. Oh sure, And it's going to be a bit of a tease for what's to come in terms of, you know, diagnosing the cause I reference. This is more just as I realize him talking. This is more just Colonel Parker giving his side of what he heard happened.

Try to laugh it off. And it went on and on and through a drink addim and and.

Altercation ensued there and here come the agents and everybody, and they just closed the bar.

They said, all of the guys, we'll go back to the room and get out of here.

And it's into that.

And so they go back to their rooms and Arn's going in there and he's trimming up his beard and working on his beard, and you get a little pair of scissors. And Sid goes back to a room and cares up a chair, takes the leg off the chair, goes down to the arm's room and and uh and Arn Arnes is trimming in. Here's a knock at the door. He goes to the door, the in a little hole that's sit and Sid says, uh L, let's let's, uh, you know, let's go to bed on better terms tonight.

Hands the chair, a right, So yeah, right he does, and.

Sid boot and seem what the thing now? I know you probably talk to Sid. I don't know if you got the same story or.

Anybody like it. I don't know.

This is the story that I got from my buddies, my guys that were there, and also my guy that I took over there, Steve Austin, in which he and.

I went up and down the road all over w C wfore well over year before he left to go to New York.

The stone call, so I had.

Heard this stuff, and that then Arn take the bump back in the floor, and Sid jumping on the top of you and mean to take the leg from the chair and peet his brains out, and Iron stuck the scissors in him, and then then Sid selling the scissors, and the fight starts again, and the scissors go over there and they fight over the.

Scissors, and Sid gets the scissors, and Iron takes off for the elevator down the hall. He makes it to the elevator, but it's one of them deals, give me done, but.

It don't come quick enough, and Sid catches him there at the elevator and stabs.

Him twenty eight thirty times, with meaning, I think from what I hear, to kill him.

Very bad.

From what I hear, meaning to kill him, yes, Worth noting, and that Sid rejoinder to Vader, claiming to save his life. He also stipulated that he doesn't think that the wound was severe enough that there was any chance that he was going to bleed out and die. So the way Sid's the only Vader is the only one I've heard described Sid as stumbling around like a zombie and barely

Of course not.

This is professional wrestling, No listen, Everyone's going to tell stories that serve themselves and unless you're like in a court of law, you're not gonna, you know, tell the truth. I mean, even then, shall we con the record, boss, Yes, shall we take a look at the fact that as part of our Sid tribute here at TLF, we did the legwork and pulled some court documents from Mecklenburg County in North Carolina, in which in nineteen ninety four, Martin Lundy aka Arn Anderson.

Sid sued, I'm in North Carolina.

That's where Arn lived, Oh, I see sued Sid. Sid made vague reference to it, talking about the twenty thousand dollars retainer to the lawyer that's Arn never got a piece of. And it's because this lawsuit is fire filed. As far as I can tell that, Sid always takes great pains to point out that he could have pressed charges against Arn in England and did not, of course, and this is the thanks he gets if he stabbed.

The better man. Let's not forget that. Okay, he is the better man.

I stab the motherfucker, I don't press charges and then he sues me. That's the thanks I get for stabbing him and not charging him. With me stabbing him bought a business.

So here it is.

And if we're going to pledge allegiance to one version of this story, I think it's probably safe to pledge allegiance to the one that Arne and his lawyer were willing to set down in official court documents. That's kind of what we do here at TLF, as we lay out all the contradictory stories from the the menageray of Carnes, and then we go a step further. And now we go a step further when they have to step just a little bit closer into that zone of truth known

There we go.

Plaintiff and defendant both make their living as professional wrestlers. Upon information and belief, during the time period in question, both the parties were under contract to World Championship Wrestling Incorporated at Georgia Corporation hereinafter WCW. Well arne as we were about to hear from SID. According to him, he was decidedly not under contract at this point in time, and that was in oversight more than it was anything else.

I don't know.

Settlements in these types of matters are always confidential, so you never really know what kind of money changed hands. But I always assumed it's because Arn tried to assume him didn't quite succeed, or or god a settlement that had to keep him kind of hushed on it. During a conversation of the hotel, several individuals defendant became verbally

None of this, none of this.

He had a beer bottle and so oh yeah, really or none of this like to Parker's version, none of this. Ah this, this has gone out of control. I'm gonna go to the room and talk to him so that we can go to bed peaceful. No, he goes right to the room and starts banging on it. According to this version, when the plaintiff went to the doctor to the door rather to confront the defendant, he saw no

None of this.

Oh, I heard him stumbling in there, and when he opened the door, I could tell he was in no condition to fight and I thought, what the fuck am I doing?

This is crazy?

And then he lunged at me, so I had to put him down, and then I wrote, none of that. No, he hides, he puts his back to the wall. Yeah, wait, this is the funniest thing in the world to me. That's picturing Sid doing it.

Lumbering man, that's.

What It is.

Not funny that it happened to arn. I'm not saying that.

It's just funny that someone that looks like Sid is hiding behind a door ready to pop out.

He's sneak attacking, you know, he's ready to fucking you know, just he's He's such a bitch.

Defendant then continued to viciously, pardon the punt, viciously and intentionally assault and batter the defendant with the table leg and a pair of scissors. So arn Arne is not mentioning that he introduced the scissors to the fight. He's simply mentioning that Sid attacked him with them. Defendant all also repeatedly punched and kicked plaintiff in the torso and head after other individuals arrived, having been alerted by the sound of the assault. Defendant then fled the hotel led the hotel.

Nothing, Wow, holy shit, I don't.

Think he left the premises. He clearly went down to wherever Steve Austin and Invader was bleeding.

But but.

That's crazy.

So here is the cause of action from Arn Anderson the aforesaid actions by say, sorry.

So hold on, I'm m hmm. It's hard. It's you know, my brain goes defendant being Arn in the fact that defending himself. So it's hard to me, so like, but you know it Sid attacks Arn. But then but then why is why why it never mentions that that Sid is stabbed. No, it doesn't. It just mentions him leaving the hotel.

It makes it, Yeah, he makes it sound like Sid just cheap shot at him, beat the shit out of him, and then took off and stabbed him, and doesn't mention that Arn was the one that brought the scissors into the equation. So you can picture Sid and as lawyers reading this and preparing their defense, and we might just I don't know, we might just have a glimpse, it said document, you might just need to warm up those Sid pipes, poss. Let's just s put it that way

So none of me were any of these were any of these injuries? Did any of them come into play regarding Arne's retirement.

Now, Arn's retirement was all about nerve damage to his spine that atrophied his arm. Same thing happened to Paul Orndorf okay yep as a neck injury as a further direct and proximate result of Sid's intentional assault and battery upon Arn and the injuries resulting therefrom Arn. He does say this, though boss Arne has been unable to pursue

So there you go. Arn has laid his facts on the table. Is sculling him for ten grand, for twenty grand, for more.

But you have to say, like, the part of the law that allows me to get more than ten grand from you as opposed to less is different, a different burden of proof. So he's not saying exactly how much he wants, but he's saying it's definitely more than ten grand.

Okay, he's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast.

He's an lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno and JP Sorrow.

So that is on and that is what he puts to paper. Now, does defendant aka SID you do you have a response?

Boss? I believe he does. Do we have a counter or claim? Always let's hear from Sid.

As he dictates in his lawyer's office, what does he wants the document to read?

The defendant moves the court pursuant to Rule twelve B, one of the rules of civil procedure to dismiss this action for lack of jurisdiction of the subject matter, in that the complaint seeks damages for personal injuries not within the jurisdiction of this court exactly, and that's the real problem here, hm. The defendant moves the Court, pursuant to Rule twelve B two of the Rules of Civil Procedure, to cush the retard of service of submens to.

The defendant, and to dismiss this action for lack of jurisdiction over the person of this defendant, in that the defendant is not a resident of North Carolina.

It's not it's not doing business in the state of North Carolina.

Yeah, I who saw those house show returns for the Charlotte's right.

Damn right it is, and it's not otherwise subject to service of process issued by this court. The defendant moves the Court, pursuing to Rule twelve B six of the Rules of Civil Procedure, to dismiss this action for.

Failure of the complaint to state acclaim upon which relief can be granted.

Any allege assault and battery upon the plaintiff. The right of action thereon against this defendant was barred by the statute of limitations prior to the conmencement of this action. What's the sexual limitations. I don't know what he's talking about, Like what a day? Is it a month? Like the statue limitations for this, I don't know.

I guess for maybe assault, it probably is pretty short, like you know, you got assaulted, You're gonna do something about it or not. It's probably I mean, but this was a month later. Now it happened to October. This was filed in October.

Well, I mean, it takes him a while to build a case that doesn't seem right. Well, it's not. It's a year.

Yeah, it's not a case, it's a lawsuit. But so it's like, it's all, yeah, you.

Know what happened to you? Just put it down on paper. Fifth defense and answer one. The allegations containing paragraph one of the plaintiff's complaint are admitted upon information and belief two. With respect to the allegations containing paragraph two of the Plainton's Plaintiff's complaint, it is admitted that's a defendant is a resident of Marion, Arkansas. Oh, he's willing to concede that. That's big. I will admit that I live where I say I live right, read into that one, except I

With respect to the allegations contained in paragraph five of the Plaintiff's complaint, it.

Is admitted upon information and belief not the plaintiff is a professional wrestler. There's a T shirt.

The plaintiff is a professional wrestler.

I telling you the whole thing, the whole you know, black a black T shirt, white lettering. With respect of the allegations contained of the Plaintiff's complaint, it is admitted upon information and belief that the planineiff is a professional wrest That's pretty good. It's pretty great. Oh my god, upon information and belief. During the time period in question, the plaintiff was under contract to World Championship Wrestling, Incorporated,

So he denies right there that he SID the defendant was under WCW contract, as ARN represented, But he does say he does grant that ARN was under WCW contract.

He's fucking crazy.

The allegations contained in paragraph six of the plaintiff's complaint are admitted upon information and belief. The allegations containing paragraph seven of the Plaineiff's complaint are admitted upon information and belief. The allegations contain paragraph eight of the Plaintiff's complaint are admitted upon information.

And don't stop there, SID, The allegations.

Contained in paragraph nine of the plaintiff's complaint are denied.

What about with respect to the allegations contained in paragraph ten.

With respect to the allegations containing paragraph ten of the of the Plaintiff's complaint, it is admitted upon information and belief that others attempted to intervene in an argument between the plaintiff and defendant, except as expressly admitted herein, The allegations containing paragraph ten of the Plaintiff's complaint are denied. The allegations contained in paragraph eleven of the Plaintiff's complaint

How about fourteen the allegations containing paragraph fourteen of the plaintiff's complaint are denied.

Fifteen said the allegations complained and paragraph fifteen of the planet's complaint or did not start there.

The allegations contained in paragraph sixteen of the plaintiff's complaint are denied. Going the allegations contain in paragraph seventeen of the plaintiffs's complaint are denied. There the allegations contained in paragraph eighteen of the plaintiff's complaint are denied. The defendant's responses to the allegations containing paragraphs one through eighteen are incorporated by reference as if set forth herein for batim.

Said? Take us through it. In the event the court determines that it has jurisdiction over the subject matter and jurisdiction over the person of the defendant, that the.

Statute of limitations does not bo this action, then that the complete otherwise states upclaim upon relief can be granted than the defendant alleges as follows, that the defendant is.

A resident of Marion, Arkansas, That the plaintiff is an individual residing in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, That on or about October twenty seven, nineteen ninety three, in Blackburn, England, United Kingdom, the plaintiff unlawfully the plaintiff intentionally, with malice or reckless indifference, assaulted and battered me with a pair of scissors and repeatedly stabbed me. That the aforementioned that the afforcing actions by the plaintiff constitute an intentional assault

He suffered and continues to suffer great pain of body.

And mind as he received, He received and continues to receive hospital and medical care, attention, and treatment. He occurred and continues to incur expenses for hospital and medical care, attention,

Here right above all they follow a denial of those motions that defendant recovered judgment against the plaintiff in.

An amount in an excess of ten thousand dollars for the actual damages suffered by the defendant, that subject to the relief prayed foreign paragraph one here and above, and only following denial those motions that the defendant have judgment against the plaintiff in an out in exists of ten thousand dollars for beauti of damages that's subject to the relief preyed a four in paragraph one here and above, and only following denial of those motions that this defendant

Such honor and further relief as the Court seed re deem just improper.

This the twenty fourth day of March nineteen ninety four, Darza A, Miller, Pollard and Murphy. Unbelievable. Unbelievable, SAIDs on the record. Holy shit.

Well, about a month after that there's a filing.

And then there's more.

It doesn't really go very far. There's clearly behind the scenes negotiations going on between both sides, and despite this being filed in January of nineteen ninety four, it isn't until April twenty fifth of nineteen ninety seven.

Okay, what we get the fuck out of here?

Right around the time he wrestles Undertaker in the main event of WrestleMania thirteen, does sid Uty settle with arn Anderson.

Yep, we're both over it.

We're both in different places in our careers, we're both in different locker rooms.

Let's drop it. And it's amazing that they didn't drop it until nineteen ninety seven. That's crazy. But you hurt really crazy.

You heard me reference it. For all of his hazy and malinformed perspectives on this thing, maybe Colonel Parker saw something that none of us thought to think of. Yeah, as a contributing cause to all this.

And I'll just tell you this, straight up truth. Wouldn't be any good if it didn't. Sid was doing his steroids. Gosh did he look good man? He was, he was lit man. And when he went, he knew that he.

Wasn't going to be able to take his steroids along. So I knew that he took an awful lot of stuff.

Ongoing.

So the first night that they're there, he is really well, he's ready to explode. Yes, and uh is this is what I hear, you know to hearsay, But I'm sure I got the story because I was this man and I had been there with him. Would not have happened because I knew Sid, and I knew the possibilities and I could get ahead of the.

Game and make sure that those things didn't happen.

And I think he would back me up on that if he was here today then, But I wasn't there with him.

And he was on his own, on his own without his can Wow.

Wow, what's more dangerous than a guy who roid's hard someone who's been deprived of his roids for ten days in England? You can't bring him over the border. Maybe it is just that simple. And again, for all of the for all of the palace intrigue in Sid's career in both big companies, somehow it always seems to come down to whether or not he can get access to the steroids to be Sid.

Yep.

Of course this is a bit of a scandal in the UK. Take a look.

This is a screen grab from Gary Michael Capetta's book some tabloid coverage in the UK.

Of this fight Wow Kelly Wrestling stars in two am hotel knife brawl, grappling pals pull them upon.

A great headshot of Sid. I mean god, Oh, I mean god. Yeah, that's the kind of guy who's enforcer barbral Sid stab wounds and he's got his hands behind his head and he's got his teeth grated in the photo.

Jesus Christ.

But is it true a real fight? The Miami Herald decided. Alix Marvez, a w employee, decided to cover it with that terminology. Oh man, that's brilliant. In October ninetety three, the Halloween edition actually of the Miami Herald, he wrote professional Wrestling move from Fantasy to Reality Tuesday.

It's reel as an actual fight.

Guys.

When Arn't Anderson and Sid Vicious engaged in a real life fight that left both men hospitalized. Anderson lundy at Vicious Sid Udi began squabbling on a bus while returning from a World championshipresting showing card of England. Later that evening, Vicious six ' eight three ten knocked on the door of Erson's hotel room and said he wanted to apologize. See Okay, that's already out there, that version of apology. That's not what Arne says in his port filing. There's

There we go. I guess what are your thinks? In charge?

Here Inside the Ropes with Kenny McIntoshes, Eric Bischoff explains this first, let's say, human resources challenge that he's encountered of this magnitude since taking control a WCW.

Was it was late in the evening because it happened in a different time zone. It was late in the evening when I got a phone call.

You got that it was in a different time zone. You get that, of course, Yes, yes, I'm going to make sure you hear this is configured correct.

Late in me. Yes, it would have been late in the evening. It was two am. No, it wouldn't have been late.

In the evening.

Now, it was where he was because he wasn't on the tour, right, it wasn't leave in the evening if this happened at two am. With that, well you just sent me so true And.

Oh, Eric, was it was late in the evening because it happened in a different time zone. It was late in the evening when I got a phone call and Doug Dillinger, who was our head of security in WCW, called me and said, Eric, you know, he told me what happened, and he gave me pretty specific details as to what led up to the incident.

And how it all went down.

So he's getting the version of this story from Doug Dillinger, who, if I can read between the tea leaves here, arn Anderson name drops in his own legal complaint which tells me he's not afraid of Doug Dillinger being called before a jury judge to give his account of things in terms of the risk that Dillinger will say something unfavorable toward arn Anderson's version of what happened. So remember it's Dyllinger telling Bischoff who did what?

Here?

We'll see if that if that has bearing on his ultimate decision.

Oh my god.

And first of all, it was horrified. You know, it's late at night. I wasn't thinking it was. I think it was on a weekend. Maybe wrong about that, I can't remember, but it was it was at an odd time when I wasn't thinking about work. I was home with my family, my kids, and I get this phone call Arnstabs Sid what.

Sesh uh?

Can I just get a sexual harassment problem?

Please?

Sure?

Can I get some other kind of other than somebody tried to kill somebody with a pair of scissors.

That was a tough one. I wasn't prepared for that one.

I didn't know how to handle that.

But I got more and more information, and once I got the update and everybody was helping them, we're just going to die and bleed out and die in the hallway in a hotel. Once I knew everybody was safe, I went and conferred with the next day my boss. His name was Bill Shaw at that time, and we said, well, let's just wait till everybody gets back, try to get as much detailed information as we can, and we'll figure out.

What to do from there.

But it was a bizarre, bizarre folcal to get.

But you said, had been in WWF, he's come back. You know, I'm sending there are big plans for him. He always gets let go. Was that a decision tough to kind of, you know, take a big name and kind of get rid of him.

No, it wasn't tough because I mean, that's such a serious situation. There has to be a very cut and dry decision. There could be no ambiguity, there could be no doubt, there can be no shadows. You know, it has to be an incredibly clear decision. And the reason that I let sid go. I'm gonna be honest. I like Arn Anderson, I really do, and I respect Arn Anderson. However do you arn Anderson at that time in his life?

That's how they got their entertainment.

That's how a lot of rest and talent kind of entertained themselves on the road. They were pulling ribs on each other, doing really horrible practical jokes on each other.

Or creating situations.

That they knew was going to cause drama and conflict because they got a weird kind of enjoyment out of watching all that.

Happen in front of them.

That's just, unfortunately what happened. I guess when you're on the road a lot.

There was no doubt in my mind that Arne started that issue because Arne, and it came out subsequently. Arn was kind of like poking Sid, making fun of Sid, challenging Sid, embarrassing Sid in front of his peers. That was arn Anderson's mo when he was drinking. When he was sober, he was fine, we all changed when we're drinking. I was a lot more interesting two hours ago than

And I knew that.

But the reason I fired Sid is because Sid made the decision. Backtrack, So Arn's poking the bear, making fun of Sid in front of everybody in a bar. They're all drinking, everybody's drinking, including Sid. Aren't everybody else aren't making fun of him, challenging him, demoralizing him, degrading him in front of people. Whatever the case was. They both go up to their rooms. Eventually Sid decides to leave his.

Room and go confront Art.

That was the mistake.

If Sid would have gone to his room, Arn't would have gone to his room. They both would have slept it off, there would have been no issue. But Sid made the decision to go confront Arn and then the incident happened. That's why I fired Sid. He's the one

But wait, was that the reason he had to go? Why is that ultimately the reason? I mean, you've got to remember Stark ninety three. Main event is on the books, say it shout the angle. You heard the reference there in Alex Marvez's piece about how they had just actually turned Sid babyface in preparation for the Vader match before this happened. Do you know who Sid was in the ring with on the October thirtieth, nineteen ninety three edition of Saturday Night, the first ww television show to air

Oh my god.

So Sid, who's still managed by Colonel Parker by this point, still being a heel seven days after the stabbing. This is what wrestling fans around the country you see on WTBS.

Out of his US and Flayers a quick twiner than heels.

Ric Flair could be moments away, step three shots approval couldree moments away.

I think this is the only Flare side on one match, by the way, I think you're right.

Blocked by Fishes. WHOA But Fishes didn't get blocking rams the Nature Boy into the buck hole.

Do you remember them going one on one in like WWF.

I don't No, I don't think so. No, because unless they did in something like house showing like ninety one, right.

As Sid Vicious now, thank you, gonna try the power bomb here?

I don't know.

Maybe the wheels take.

It out from Leondery.

Maybe he can't get him up like he should.

Let's see what a flare upside down.

But still a center stage days by the ways off the top. Put any event to seats on the hard camera side, brings him back down.

Oh, they both hit hard at time.

Kelly the back suplex, but Fishes got the worst end of that one. It ain't offen big. Sid gets taken off his feet. Flair with a cover, whoa any can of pulted flair?

All power kickout by Sid with the gua pret with the press there the bench press, and.

Now Rick Claire up top again.

Sid fishes up to me. Didn't do anything about it? Rick Flare tandel and Flare goes for the Figure four, locks it in and he's hooked. He's gotta hook that Sid fish us Colonel Parker losing the ship at inside.

Set.

Now Colonel Parker's up on the apron. Sid reverses the Figure four, Parker's in the ring and kicks Flair in the head good.

Colonel Parker's come in.

That's gonna get flair of the wind. They're gonna just wantify sa Hey, give flair the wind sides the turn as.

A result about this clification make too hold.

And it's here boss where Sid is sick of his heeling manager Wow on.

Words, gay tend Why you're on TVs Hey? All the turner could do is react, look at fair, you know, look.

To please with the perdile.

Why did you look at PA's try to explain to one now when he had a time.

I don't stand he was incredible and not Sid christious and the corner cough sackius. The title shot Sid looking at people like, shouldn't necessarily say that? Toody. I think that's what Sid saying right now. The turtle make the moves because he had to.

We are out of time.

We got a guy. We're gonna tell your he's got curib you next week.

And Saturday Night fades to black. Wow, that's wild it Sid elevating Colonel Parker. They don't show the impact on the choke slam, but they do show him lifting him in the goose hole. And now Sid is ready ready to go as the top guy, potential future world champion to dethrone Vader the Monster, and we're on our way. We're at least so we thought. It's just amazing that that airs after after Sid stabs are and over a fight over Rick Flair.

That's really fucking crazy.

That is That's that's Halloween season. You want to talk about serendipity. Oh yeah, right, that's Halloween nineteen ninety three. As we sit here upon Halloween two thousand and twenty four, ten years strong on TLFT, he's.