Ep. 387: WWF's Unforgiven 1999 (Part 2)

And we are so very much back boss MMMMPS Fan Wrestling podcast WWF Unforgiven nineteen ninety nine. Yes, from Charlotte Coliseum, fifteen thousand and seven seven nine in attendance, how many fifteen thousand, seven hundred wow, and seventy nine, which is a five hundred five thousand dollars gate half a million dollars of the gate. Pretty good. Ninety three thousand in merch they're rocking, man, there's some few thousand attendance too, I heard from what I heard as

well. Yeah, and that you know, that's kind of a middling number for the time. No. Mercy the month after did about the same three hundred thousand buys. SummerSlam did six eight thousand, but of course Summer Slim always does substantially more. Say it's it's uh, you know, these one of these B shows. It's right that you know, again, they didn't really want to have B shows as looks like it came into Tikfell and then fully Loaded, which we talked about earlier. Yeah, they didn't want have

B shows. I mean, I don't know. I think Russo style of booking, it's like whatever the next thing to happen is is going to be the next thing to happen, regardless of what the next pay per view is. Almost yeah, I mean I don't. I don't agree with that mentality. No, no, I don't need I think that's what's a play.

Yeah, I agree, that's why I think so all of a sudden, there'd be like this random like show that you don't think is going to matter, and you look at the main event on paper, You're like this, it sounds very consequential. This doesn't doesn't match at all. What I think of is in your house, the most important match of all time, right

you very often, very often. So, I mean, you know Deebird deeper Deebird's history tone that the don I mean, that's puts me there, Dude, I wrote, I wrote, we opened with attitude, and that's about accurate. That's about accurate. I mean, no one's ever gonna be able to run this down. But there's like the smallest little sound sample in the beginning. I swear to god, a voice goes it's history. Kent

Oh really obsessed. So here comes the package flames a ring. I mean, we're talking completely this is this is a vintage Attitude era over the top hype video it is so absurd. Well you're gonna listen to it right now. But we're talking about we're talking about just this, this dialogue, like what is happening will change the course of the earth as we know it, humanity, humanity will will will change. There will be basically a before unforgiven

and an after unforgiven. Is the way that they do basically describe it or to make it. That's kind of the the the vibe of the of the package here and then you get close close with with Freddy Blassie getting all fucking biblical as darkness. The Night of Ricky is us night flames. Six mortal men, warriors, all fueled by the pursuit of the coveted gray along, driven by desperation, ruled by the cold hand of fate, seeking the ultimate

glory, a blessing that poisons the soul. Or to be the ruler, a warrior must be sworn into a battle without mercy, a life with a hundred part MOUs I talk too. Darcy must embrace the darkness, must pform free hair, his soul to forever be unreferring jem forgive us resonners, forgive us our sins. Deliver us from evil. The myson S must have mercy on our souls. I mean, it's wrestling, right, We're not like, you know, we're not facking having Moses fucking lead the Hebrews out of

Egypt, right, Like, it's not the fucking Ten Commandments here. Have mercy on our souls. Hey, Freddy, that's next month, you know, exactly, No, no mercy on our souls. Imagine that the next month he says, have no mercy on our souls. That'd be fucking amazing. I mean, why is that quintessential attitude to you the we just heard

because there there was this like there was a grandiosity. Yes, if life were fair to write but even but like this is even a step further than there is, because it's right and it has really little to do with wrestling, right, Like they're talking about the Holy Grail and gladiators and nights and souls and souls and all the shit where it's like if life were fair. It was like they were that's true. They were describing the situation that's fair,

you know. But at the same time it definitely had that that that movie trailer vibe. But this was I just remember in the attitude era, like especially like you know late ninety eight, ninety nine, two thousand, they would have these these these video packages to open a show that were it's about like metaphysical things, right, and it was like it made it seem like, again, the fate of the world lies in this wrestling program, right, and you could layer on the verbiage to pretty much any feud that

ended up headlining the show. It's just like plays the right title of the show unforgiven, right exactly. They play on that, and then you know, talking about these warriors who were fighting for out of desperation to grab the grail and during all send home the glory, the glory of all time, of all humansanity bathing it live in it diet. If we go much further, and they're layering imagery of like all the guys in the six pack Challenge,

oh yeah, doing things to each other over this verbiage. So we mentioned this fucking they have this fucking like uh uh this uh score here written. I mean this obviously this is some kind of uh uh you know, royalty free you know whatever they call it music, but very much in the vibe of of like a batman by Danny Elfman. Sure, you know, screeching horns and all that shit just overwrought, to say the least. Yes,

indeed, indeed, so Pyro shoots off at the Charlotte Coliseum. We've got a tron high above the entrance and interestingly, we have a circular screen in the center of the aisleway. It's very uh. I think they did the same almost a similar thing with barversaries that year. Yes, good call. It's like a button at the top of the aisle. Yeah, and insane signage of course, I mean scientific. Oh, forget it, it's all that. Yeah, you have you have maybe about fifty percent humanity fifty

poster board, right, and that's that's even before the shamrock match. So Jr. Welcomes to sin. The Charlotte colsseum is electrified with the anticipation of a new WWF champion. Of course we've talked about this before. When you can go into a pay per view back then guaranteeing a new champ, it's interesting. Yes, I'm surprised that by rate wasn't higher than it was. Yeah, that's kind of it. That is kind of true, Like you'd

think you'd think it was a big deal. But then again, I imagine the uh, it probably would have been a bigger by rate if if Vince was going in as the champion. Oh totally, you know. But I feel like everyone knew that that that triple Ah was gonna right win. Yeah, you know, yeah, it seemed very unlikely that they would do those quick adjustments and then not go back to where they started. Yeah, right

right, just like a band in the trip light things. But there's a candy ass sign all kinds of signs, and oh yeah, tonight new crown champion. We're told Stone Cold Steve Austin has guaranteed a new champion tonight, they say, and commentary and Lawler says, you can take it to the bank if that's the case. And we see the referees are on strike. They're picketing outside of the Charlotte Coliseum. Tim Tim White and his company.

They're talking about how scab referees. They keep calling him scabs throughout the broadcast. Yeah, we got a fair we get a fair amount of scabs for sure. I mean it's like it's it's literally, U I imagine leftover roster become agent bactors, I mean roster. You know, it's fucking Steve Lombardi,

Harvey Whippleman and Tom Pritchard. Yep, anybody who fucking people who's ever refed the match before is getting the assignment that isn't a ref and they're being a sign, We're told and Lawler says there was almost a major altercation earlier as the scab were crossing the picket line to get into the building. Now why they wouldn't film that, I don't know, Probably because they had no idea who the scabs were going to be to the last minute. But yeah,

that would have been fun, you know show. Yeah, I think it'd been fun to like see Earl Hebner beating up on fucking Steve Lombardi. Yeah, just like screaming at him, like a centimeter from his face, spedtle in his face. You know, they could inflate a big giant rat out there. People think it was triple h you know it's fine, ye, So Valve steps out, Valvenus. It's attitude arrow in case you forgoys,

hello ladies. Absolutely wow, wow wow wow wow. Whenning kinging and you got like you get the twisting screw and the exploding volcano and all that. Yeah, and the flower blooming and you get the I think they're like a hot dog being putting a bun too. There was what the fuck was this venus? I know exactly. He comes out and points to his head like he forgot something. He goes back and he comes out. I was like, I was like, what's going on here? Like? Did he

come out too early? He forgot? Is a duffel bag full of vinceus dildo's. Well, actually you've listened to the to the thing. It's it's Steve Blackman's duffel bag full of dildos, solutely or martial arts weapons as we're told. Yes, Lawler says, it's valves, tools of the trade. So we're supposed to think it's like dildos and gilbos. Yes, of course it's Tom Pritchard and I'm thinking to myself, wait a minute, aren't all these guys tools of the trade? Scab referee is a Lombardi, actually Sambardi.

Tom Prichard's like the head scab, right, he's kind of running point. Yeah, Lawler said, you could use those toys. They buzz and they make noise and they vibrate, talking about you know, the toys of Vowel's trade. Yes, so that's obviously to pop Vince and as as with everything now although we know what we know right, yes, yes, it's all Vincus psychos true. Yes, yes, that lifts the microphone and they pop for that WWF logo in the corner. Oh yes, I need that

scratch logo. We get it. Here's here. What good? They don't blur it out anymore. On Peacock you get the straight WWF scratch logo. I wonder how about it, Well, because you don't have to in America. It's only in England, right, Well, it's true, yeah, and Peacock doesn't distribute there, so maybe it's still blurred out on the old network. I don't know, yeah, I don't know. Well that's a good question. Here's valsa promo for the ladies, hell right right out of

the headlines too for that matter, Oh, ladies. You know something, ladies. The Big Boboski figures that the remnants of Hurricane Floyd are still within the boundaries of North Carolina. Why because just this morning the Big Baboski was blown from one end of the state. Oh the way out here today? Okay, I get it, could Crystal, I mean, look, porn stars obviously have sexual gravitas, but yes they're not. It's not the same thing as like a player that that you know, beds women all the time.

It's not the same thing as a casanova like a porn star. Like, do porn stars just go out in their social life and get me alone all the time? I don't. I don't know. I'm not. I'm not friends with any porn stars as of yet, but I I would imagine that it's a job, you know, like I would imagine I think I want to think of the the the episode where where Bob Odenkirk plays a fucking

former porn actor on Curb. It's like season one of Curb and he plays a former porn actor and it's like it's just so funny him talking about scenes but having this like a dinner party at his house. It's like, you know, they have women screeching for him, like he's a hard throb, and it's like, do do women like do they scream like when they see a porn a male porn star that I think it's hot? Like is that even a thing? I I think I feel like he's he's also like he's

kind of a mix of all of these things. He's he's part porn actor, but he's also part casanova and also part like stripper. And so that's true that that all comes across as why they would cheer for him, because maybe you'll see the big Valbowski tonight, you know, maybe you'll see his uh, his dick come out and and and please the ladies and the men some men for that. Sure. Yeah, to stimulate, Patterson questions brother going all the way back to the beefcake gimmick. Uh, Sarah comes Steve

Blackman take it away? Could could you? And and good and getting ping and there he was. God, we had done this show before that ask him right? But as it were, it was we just looked at him. We go, really should we nothing to ask? Move on? That's right, Steve. So the set pieces for Unforgiven include huge orders. It is one of the great It is one of the great mid card themes. Though, I will say, is Steve Blackman's theme, Like, definitely some

other people, some other one deserved that more than he did. Tantric drum. Yeah, Like, I think it's a pretty I always thought it was a pretty cool theme. Yeah, but I just like, but then Steve Blackman comes down, It's like, all right, I guess yeah, there are huge stacks of quarters in the Unforgiven set and tribute to Vince Senior, no question. We're told Blackman owns a third degree black belt. We didn't. They didn't say where he bought it, though Jr. Doesn't also specify

if he earned it or not. He just apparently owns one silent assassin. Yeah, okay about the silent crowd. So we kick it off with Valvenus versus Steve Blackman here at Unforgiven nineteen ninety nine, and I just can't think of a hotter pay per view opener. I mean, right, a main event anywhere in the world. Honestly, you know, the kind of the

kind of match you want to open a fucking pay per view. I will say one of the weird things about Val at this time period was like, as much of a pure at alloyd attitude gimmick he was, he would get a lot of ring time, you know, like he actually, oh yeah, he was one of those guys that would actually have like, you know,

fifteen sixteen minute matches. I really feel he could have been so much more if he didn't have this fucking porn star gimmick, you know, because I think he could have, because I remember thinking, even like in ninety eight, like I just I thought it was great. I've really enjoyed him and I I thought he he had a lot of potential and you know, but then I'm like, but how's he going to get around even that, I'm like, how's he gonna get around this fucking well? He couldn't try.

I remember in like two thousand, Yeah, yeah, he did like swore off the porn star thing and he got a push. He was icy champion, but I wasn't quite there. But no, because like because I don't know, like you, I think he fell into godfather, you know, area where the gimmick was. The gimmick was over, the guy wasn't. That's right, And it's a shame because he's a he's good. I think I think I think Valve's very good. Like he's very entertaining to watch.

He puts on pretty solid matches. Did you know that he was every time at the same time in kind of like a period of like double duty headlining in Mexico as Steel the top Ford heavyweight in I had no fucking clue. Yeah, it's pretty wild. That is that's crazy. So uh see blackman hits the ring and slugs away baseball slide kicked duck and Valvenus scores with a clothes line, and we can see the cage hovering above the ring for the kennel from hellwater of course, it's uh are lists several of the body

parts which black men can hurt you with. We can hurt you with his feet, his hands, his head, a variety of things. Well we do share something in common. I can hurt someone with a variety of things as well. Oh god, I'm not kidding. What's that his feet, his hands, his head. I had I had to actually increase my screen brightness because that's how black the attitude arrow was. It's so true. I

mean, you know we complained about this is a little ridiculous. No, it's it's so it's so dark, like there's so much black, yes, you know, and like in Black and Red. It's so fucking you know Emo nineties. You know, it's just crazy. I mean it looks like walking into a hot topic or a spencer's It's like, oh totally, it's it's just throwing up. It's funny. I actually I actually went with I took my daughter and a friend to the mall. They actually went to the

mall. They wanted to go to the mall. Good for them, Good for them. Yeah, went to the mall a couple of weeks ago and they wanted to go into hot topic. Yeah it's still going. Man, It's like okay, I mean, it is it is. It's like it's it's very different. You know, it's certainly more uh homogenized than it was. You know, when when are you two going through your Wednesday Adams phase. I'm always going through my Wednesday Adams face. As long as there's a

Wednesday Adams phase, there will be a hot topic. Yep, yep. So, like I was just I was laughing. I said, you know, I sold I said, you know, I used to go to this store when I was when I was in high school because they had all the wrestling shirts. Now they get all like the retro cool. Oh yeah, of course hip band shirts concert tour from nineteen ninety concert, right, you know, and and and comic book hero shirts and shit. You know they want to wear t shirts I had as a kid. Yet we can't be

cool to that. Even though they wanted to exactly know shirts, we wore, even though we wore real ones, you know, Jack and my swag. Yeah, even though even though the shirt that you're that you're buying has like purpose, like it's tattered purposefully. God, I have a tattered shirt that's legit tattered. That's right, because we were outside playing, right, And it's the same fucking thing, the same Like the she freaks out, she goes crazy for she wants, like, I really want a Nirvana sweatshirt.

Do you know what Nirvana is? It's just empty signifiers to them, It's just yeah, it's just this thing. It's an aesthetic. They see like still images from thirty years ago, and they want it. And I'm like, you know, you know they were a band. You know the guy died. I don't think of that. They think of the celebrity wearing the shirt. You know. It's like shirts right on. The Kardashians or a Drake wore that Razor ramone shirt one time. That is the reference point

for the generation. Not the shirt, but the fact that this guy wore a shirt that is vaguely nineties right, fascinating. I didn't see that one coming. I have to say. I let me tell you this, Okay, this was this was, this was mortifying. So I I, I had to take my daughter to get braces and uh, so we're at the orthodonist and they got a bunch of you know, they were there had you

know, she was she was nervous, and so I I was. They were playing ninety had a nineties playlist going, and they were playing Spice Girls, and so I was like, I was singing along, trying to like, you know, get her mind off things. And the the orthodontists or the you know whoever, I don't know who it is in uh in the orthodonis's office. Who does the real work, you know, like you have a dental but is it it's still dental assistant. I don't know. I

don't know what the yeah, like you know. And so she's like, oh, I see your dad likes the playlist and I'm like, yes, I do. And she's like, you like the oldies? Huh. I was like, oh, God, get the fuck out of here. The oldies and that's it, dude, We're there, that's it. The nineties are the oldies thirty years ago. We're fucked and here we are. I am thinking we're abnormal, right for obsessing over the nineties as a time when when culture was perfectly aligned in terms of like, you know, it was

it was wonderful just to watch TV back then. And then and then it comes a generation, you know, saying, actually, you're right, that you're totally right, because look at us, look at what we're trying to emulate. Yeah, but we're old. That's the bottle, very bizarre, very matter. Like I truly didn't have a I crually didn't give a shit about the fifties and sixties when I was exactly I certainly didn't think it was cool. No, right, I certainly didn't want to dress like the sixties

in the nineties. No, no, you tell me why kids are going to dress like the nineties and the twenty twenties if it. Oh, they did kind of dress like the seventies a little, but in the nineties there was a little bit of that or Stell bottoms, yeah, bell bottoms and like the the hip hugger jeans and all that shit. Anyway, but yeap, so uh up to the corner, Steve Blackman tries a monkey flip but fails. Missus Neble dropping a drop kicked by Blackman, sends Bealvyess to the

floor. Jr. Says, like you said, blackman can hurt you with his feet, his head and a variety of things. And then they call out Lombardi and uh Jr. And Lawler lists some of his other favorite roles of their favorite roles of Lombardi's. The reprieve for this matchup, Steve Lombardi, known in some circles as the Brooklyn Brawler. Yes, one of these scab referees. Yeah, Brooklyn Brawler. Steve Lombardy has been doing the clown. He's been all sorts of things. That's so weird. It's so weird.

They mentioned Doink Okay in MVP, known in some circles as right Like, that's fucking the original MVP he is. To me, that's true, that's right, that's right. Sout of the aprin they go, blackman kicks, tries to sup LIKEX and drops Valvenus on his crotch on the ropes, and then black men with red boots that are slowly being exposed under those baggy black fans. Kind of disturbing. Oh as his pants hike up somehow,

it's disturbing to me. Ja mentions there's tension in the locker room and like he's ever seen, with Vince having relinquished the title after winning it on SmackDown, and Lawler says he went to see Vince defend the title. Wanted rather to see Vince defend the title, and Jr. Says, and I quote, he kept his word, he did the right thing. He had no trouble looking himself in the mirror, He had agreement not to get involved in

any official WWF business. And I just I can't believe how applicable that quote is today. I do the same thing I do. I do that all the time. I have experience do the right thing. I have experience moving myself from WWF business. I do the right thing. You know. I do the right thing when it comes to one on one you know, relationships and interplay. I do the right thing when it comes to business. I

you know, I you can't take that away from me. I can't take away from you that you do the right thing in terms of one on one interplay. As you just put it exactly to the I am. I'm always doing what is right to No, that's right in regards to the way that you know. I mean, there are obviously there are opinions when it comes

to what is right and wrong. I don't necessarily believe that. I believe that there is only right and that I do buy it, among other things, to the floor's reversed whip and Valvenus takes out the ring steps, which is a yep. They still do it today, But there's nothing more attitude or than hitting the floor and breaking those steps in half. Yeah, yep, yep, and beating people with it and not getting disqualified. Blackman that drives val into the post mine first into the ring gets a cover for two.

They reference smack Down on upn and Rock and Bulldogs started off smack Down with some tension. Lawler says it was supposed to be Triple ahent Bulldogs starting out the six pack Challenge tonight. But Vince's chain, his bulldog is taking Undertaker's place when he walked out on Thursday night. Yeah, took a walk. Don't know when he's gonna be back. So yeah, So Steve Blackman whips Valvetus to the corner and he drops, he flexes his bicep. But

did you didn't I don't Maybe he didn't notice this or not. The when Blackman went for that cover on on on Venus Lombardy. You see, he registered he was going for a heat, was doing a slow count to begin with, but because this wasn't the finish, he held at too before a val lifted his shoulders. Oh god, they're not being trained properly. No, they're not. You're supposed to slap three no matter what, unless, of course, it would really piss them off. Then you're supposed to not

right, jarres Is, don't piss me off. Black Man doesn't take any unnecessary chances. He's a ground man with a ground attack. He's a ground beef man boss the ground, the ground beef man versus the big boss man. Later, good night the ground and pound if you will, the ground beef and a pound of it. Black with the knee drop and a snap soup lex and then Valvenous elbows free kicks up and drops black Man with a Larryato. Valven That starts pulling ahead at this point, whipping a back elbow

and drops an elbow whipping. The King says, they talk about well, they talk about VAL's rally, and you know there are there are comments and innu windows for us. Last combination moves there by, val Venus seemed to be building so momentum here he's starting to rise to the occasion. He's done that for money. Cat with that he's done that for money. Yes, yes, it's reminding us that that that that that apparently Val has has uh uh, you know, become erect. I mean that's what they're saying.

We're not like, we're not being sophomoric. That's what he's saying. I think it's it's funny to call attention to that the way he doesn't make call attention. Indeed, he's not mad for MONI. Oh yeah, I know, we know this Jr. He's been a porn star gimmick for a year and a half now, said Russian Lake. Sweep by venus hip, swivel over black man's carcass and then he covers him for two not before swiveling his dick all over him. Oh god, well there's his Man in the Moon

is coming out in Christmas time. I got it for you. You know my movie with Jim Carrey called Man on the Moon's coming out at Christmas. Yes, well, Val said he's working on one called Man in the Moon. Oh no, what is the moon? Well, like ass fucking that's

called the moon. Well, when you moan somebody. I see, okay, you know you moan somebody, you show me your ass and and so you you know, fucking them and you know, you know what bothers me more about that is not that he said it, you know, because that's it's the fact that he he says, oh no, respond to his own joke. You know, it's like fed the line, Like that's what bothers me the most, Like like j R. Should have said that. Not right, Lawler. Yeah, that's a good that's a good catch. Actually

it's almost like he oh no, he was talking. He was talking faster than his brain could work, and he realized what he was saying, right, and it just I was like, this is that's it? Did it? I sit here feel I felt awkward when it first happened. I felt awkward when I recorded the sound bite. I feel awkward now, like I feel like something's amiss. Yes, there's been a glitch. Yeah, Man

in the Moon, I'll take that over. Big Show's starring role in Man in the Moonpie Valvenus rolls through it a cross body attempt that gets to and then Blackman catches him, charging with a spinebuster. He does a jackknife craador, at least he tries to, but he ends up just laying on top of Alvinus's carcass. Fucking oh god, he's such a fucking idiot. Val barely does anything to get him off of him. Finally val gets back up. It's a bulldog and a DDT. I mean, it's attitude, arrow

man. It's move after move after move after move. There's like no selling, no rest, there's no rest, there's nothing. Valvenis climbs to the top rope for the money shot to a pop. They want him to succeed. That's one thing. Like what looks like he's gonna hit his finish there they we're excited for him and not he he's you know, Valve's over. VAL's is a is a great you know, I meant to die for this this time period. Yeah, absolutely hits the money shot one two, three,

six minutes, thirty three seconds. Valvenus pin Steve Blackman to kick offf Unforgiven nineteen ninety nine. Jerry says the lethal weapon just got unarmed, and then Jerry says Valvenus has risen again. And then he gets the bag he brought up bag yep, yep, and there's a stick in there. There is Laller says there's something buzzing in there that's definitely a vents line. And then book About talk about his vibrators mentioned say Lawler say, look, I

think he's got a vibrator up his button. Say it, say it, say it, say it, say it, say it, say it. Exciting They got him from the glove box, and then boom, Steve Blackman cracks Valven is over the head of the windowstick and then Stevenbardi's calling in help and the scabs don't know to do the X apparently when things are getting too real, right, and now comes Barbara Bush. The emt Oh my god, that's who this was. I forgot all about Barbara Bush. I did

too. No, I was like, it's like, holy shit, that's that. That's that random, big titted blonde from nineteen ninety nine. I would say, add Barbara Bush to the death toll. But that's the raw one, that's right. They had the empt with the big bust yep,

yeah yeah, and then eventually she wrestled for like two seconds. Well you know who we do have to add to the death toll that I forgot to mention who Jim Dotson had a security Oh the guy here in the leather keangle that they were trying to the guy, the guy you mean, the guy wh looks like Kevin James. Yeah, indeed, yeah, he passed away. This is a guy who used to be a fixture during the Attitude era in the audience when the wrestlers were brawling the crowd. He'd be the one

kind of holding back the fans. And he was jacked to the gills. And he had always had that leather keangle hat on backwards, so he was he really stood out fucking so fucking annoying that hat. Oh, I know that leather like Jesus. A lot of time and place that hat was, man, I know, backwards, always backward. No one would, no one dare wear front, no one word. Yeah, right, No, you're a fucking idiot, right, you know exactly. You don't want took

like a moron. So so people got really curious about who's this jacked guy. They thought he was a worker. He really wasn't. He was just a guy that was, you know, involved in security. And sure enough that the curiosity about him reached a point where they convinced him to get involved in doo someo angles and he does. He starts it here, I remember, but very specifically, I'm like, Okay, finally this guy's going to

do an angle because everyone assumes he's a wrestler anyway. And then after I think after Russo left, they just dropped it because you never see anything else from this guy. Yeah. No, but he he gets in there and breaks this up and almost shoots like a double leg when Steve Blackman gets in his face. He like tussles with Steve Blackman and they'd identify him as head of security. And you can see he has the earpiece in that he has to communicate with the back and everything. Yeah, but yeah, he he

passed away. He passed away untimely. I think it was something here from It was a post from someone who knew him online here. Dotson sadly was forced to retire in twenty one due to chronic severe migraines, it says here, and they progressed to the point where he actually went blind. He lost retire from what sorry, retire from what was he doing security? Still? Yeah? Yeah, ended up losing his sight and died in twenty fifteen at

the age of forty nine. Jeez, so yeah, the guy in the hat here at unforgiven the empts hover over val I mean, cut to Michael Cole who's with Big Show, and they say he's involved in the six pack Challenge, and the world wants to know where's undertake, and Show says, did you take a stupid pill today? Check the roster Taker's name is not on it, and my name is the Big Show. Got it. I've been under the learning tree, tough love, hard knocks, I have the

killer instinct and now no one can compare with me. No way, I'm not leaving with the wi fedel in my bag or around my waist. I don't know why he said in my bag. First it was so weird. He's such a idiot, and then he says, got it, you monkey. Oh and he has a gold chain on too. For nineteen ninety nine charisma, Yes, yes, I think more charismatic than wearing jewelry on a wrestling TV show in nineteen nine. Of course, of course Big Show.

I mean not not going well, No, not going not a compelling character boss, not at all. I mean he's such a dufis And as we mentioned in part one, undertake herself of a torn groin, and I feel like it was touch and go. I feel like Bulldog was plugged in at the last second because it was like a question as to whether Taker would be able to make it or not. Yeah, and they did, Like you mentioned that throwaway segment backstage with a just quit pivoted away. It'll be Austin's

lot tonight. We're told I love the static match graphics. They were so bare bones back then. Yep. I mean it's very simple, you know, nothing fancy, just doing the thing. Things aren't flying all over the screens. Just here's the two wrestlers get ready, then there's a package and cool says Webster's Dictionary defines friends. Is one attached to another by affection or esteem. This is of course about Dlow Brown and Mark Henry. Yes,

it is, who had had a falling out. And you know, they dramatized the fact that that you know, WWF was completely obsessed with getting Mark Henry to drop weight, so that whenever he did drop weight, they also didn't push him. Well, but this is one of those periods, and they made it in a storyline where Dilo is trying you know, he of course famously was three hundred pounds when he started in the business and trimmed way

way down to the point where he could almost pass for junior heavyweight. And the storyline here is he's trying to get Mark Henry whipped into shape, his old nation of domination buddy. And so they do skits of him training and you know, getting his blood pressure, and they even had a segment one time as they show with his highlight package where doctor tells Mark Henry he cannot

wrestle due to high blood pressure on a particular show. So that's good stuff, you know, let's make an angle out of the fact that he has high blood pressure sounds. I mean, it's like, I mean, seriously, why why, why why? It's probably happened once and Russo's like, oh, if it happened in reality, bro, so it's got to happen in the ring, bro. In case you've got what year it is,

Mark Henry in Pelee Pelet streetwear, I know. Dela says it's about not losing a friend to being fat, okay, And then here's Mark Henry, you know, trying to eat the healthy diet and then he goes can her brother gets some sauce, some butter or something so this isn't about food. By the way, the restling business isn't about food. I just want to remind you about that. It's not about Al Snow eating pepper steak. It's not about Mark Henry looking for butter on his waffles. It's nothing to do

with any of that. So then Henry slams Delo with a guitar and turns on him because he's pissed that he wants him to not eat butter. And then somehow this involves the European title. They love handing belts to people back then, man, I mean it was like, seriously, it was nuts. How about it? They fucking do. It's impossible to keep up with that, ladies and gentlemen. By the way, Mark Henry in a blue glacier color singlet was a time period, wasn't it. This is I mean,

this is the be any of his sexual chocolate face. It was It said sexual chocolate right there on the on the singlet. It's sexual tremendou. I'm gonna give it all to you. So Lily Garcia is there with Mark Henry and some women. She sucks, by the way, Lilian at this she sucks. Don't know, no interviewing. Please, God, awful, we're done. We're done. Henry says, let me tell you what I want a shot at, and he whispers in her ear and she she slaps. Yeah, yeah, you know what it is. What do you say

to her? Pussy? See? I thought he said a number three with cheese outside. That's what he says. That, that's what he says when he wants pussy three with cheese. You know what I want? What number three with cheese? A DVD copy of Honor Majesty's Secret Service. So we cut outside work to know nighttime in Charlote Christmas list month. Oh my god, the referees are picking unfair working conditions. Okay, what about unfair shooting

conditions. Failer says, those guys haven't been successful on the pick and line and not wrong? Was that not wrong? Not wrong? Yeah, but that's before the picket line have been successful. The women, these two women with Mark Henry, I have to say, the one on the right on the well to his left, in particular, they look like they're being held captive. They do not look like No, they don't want to be there

in their right mind. No, no, no, they don't want to be here comes speaking of not want to be there Tom Pritchard's and blue Tom Pritchard and Blue pants as a referee. How I can't. I can't with him. He's such a fucking asshole. What do he do to you? Well, he exists, he's on a podcast like well, you know, every answer, like he takes like forty seconds of pause. Yeah, I could write, because he's trying to fucking him and his brother, Right,

I can't. Howard Finkel now doing announcing by the way, he's there, Yes, so they're trying Lily and I guess now more as a backstage interviewer on pay per views than a ring announcer, right, yeah, more or less she was unwraw as the ring announcer in Tony Chimmels on his backdown as the ring announcer, but on pay per views they were still going with Fink. This is when one of the girls, it's with Mark Henry. This is when the girls used to wear bracelets on their biceps. Remember those?

Oh god, yes, oh my god, what happened to those? And then of course the black lining on their lipstick, like they would trace their lips in a thin black pencil, remember that, yep? And then color it in whatever. Yep. Henry with the Mike says there's not going to be a European title match tonight, and he tells him to go start the car the ladies. He says, normally I would go on with this thing, but I think that's why I got this part for you. I was

like, this is just also because he we'll just play. Normally I would go on with this thing, but I think I got slapped back there and something in my head just popped. Oh, I think I got a brainer hysm or something brainierism brain and yours Mark. That's close. So I'm just gonna do this another time, maybe tomorrow night on Raws. Maybe tomorrow night on RAZ. I thought you'd jump on the brainerism. No God helped Ken. At some point backstage you said brainerism, and he can never live it

down. I know, poor guy, all right? Well on RAS, I knew a guy when I lived in l A. And you know, he'd say when I first met him, I remember, I said, I said, you know, we're talking about food, of course, what else? And he said, I said, what do you like? What do you what? I said, you know, what's your favorite burger place in l A. He says, Oh, I love fat burgers. It's fat Burgerah, just fucking that made me think of that. I said maybe tomorrow

night, I'm raws. Mark Henry loves fat burger's too. He does, you know, you know, damn fucking well, dude. When he's in the vicinity, the fat burger closes down. Mark Henry goes to fucking town a fat burger added in and out? Does he go animal style? Oh? Absolutely, he is animal style Mark animal style Henry, Mark hannimal style Henry. Everyone thinks it's like a sick like nickname for his like aggressive and ring. But it's just play on the in and out burger. It's just

because he likes fucking in and out burger. Whenever that goes to l A. Here's the thing. You can walk out in this match, Mark Henry. But did you did you game out for the possibility that you may be interrupted by Delo's theme song? Uh oh, you're looking at the real deal now, I'm gonna kick you on the street. Bring it on? What you're gonna do about it? Bring it on? Is that what you got? Yeah? Yeah, that's what I go. He comes out like the

match is still on. And he marches down with the and he ducks a belt and starts a belt shot, starts slugging out Mark Henry and here we go, Yeah, yeah, we go. We go right into it. There, Delo sent soaring into a post. The ringside post takes a big bump and then the bell sounds, so I guess, yeah, you know how that works. Again. He no longer has the ability to say he's not gonna do this match, because the bell sounded again. Like you said, he could just walk out, but not right what she was doing.

And now Delo Brown got in his way, and now Dealer Brown's out of his way. But he forgot that he could cantinue walking apparently, so he got Henry vers Delo for the European title. Delo's outside in over Mark Henry's back, and he goes behind and hits some right hands. Whip is reversed and Mark Henry tries a guerrilla press lamb, but Delo drops down and then lifts him in a sky high power bomb. Yeah, pretty impressive for the one too. Yeah yeah. HeLa comes off the middle rope and then elbow

drop. That gets too I gotta tell you all right now on paper I'm looking at this and I'm like, I'm not digging it. I'm not excited, right, but I think it's a pretty good Many worked hard. I think they really did. You can tell Dilo made it his mission to get a you know, a good match out of Mark Henry. That made made

the office sea upside in the ring because that was his the dock. He couldn't do a match, you know, I know it would take how many how many years later before it would actually it actually fucking Matt Oh my god. I mean, I guess there was that short Goldberg program when Goldberg came in six or something like that. Yeah, whenever he had the Hall of Pain. Oh my god. Ja references upcoming Skybox Office UK show. So

the high stakes here, who's gonna go in as European Champion. I'm sure the people of London can't wait to see He's gonna be Deelo Brown or Mark Henry. Oh my god. Henry catches him in hot shots him on the charge into the ropes and then he tries jumping on Delo's back like you used to do when you're draped in the middle rope. Yep. Yeah, a Dela moves out of the way and man does Mark Henry crash at a nasty angle for his size to be flying around like that? Oh yeah, totally

yeah, yeah, they say in commentary, was ripped his hamstring? What about his ham? I know, I'm just gonna say he definitely, he definitely ripped. If he rips a ham you know, he gets very nervous. He's hope the ham's okay. Delos as fuck this, I'm going Undertaker Brown zero and yeah, you're right, and then he fucking who listen. It's not unknown that I'm not a huge Delo fan, but who the fuck said, Hey, you got a sore who notified in traffic control? D

Loo. I'm gonna give you the fucking keys to the plane, right and you're gonna fly. You're gonna fucking fly over that top Rowe Clarence to take off and he does what the fuck sores of the planche, clearing the top rope, just like Undertaker taking out Mark Henry on the floor. He's war I was working chooes on. He really does. Jrris is. No one has improved in this game more than the last year than Deelo Brown. Okay, comes back in and does a cross body off the top for two,

Mark Henry comes back with a grilla press front slam for two. Lawler says when he's out to dinner, he would order a sixty ounced t bone and tell him to bring Mark lettuce or chicken breast. And that's why he's so pissed at him, because not only would Deelo Brown make Mark Henry ead clean, but then he would eat a crazy meal in his face. I mean. Also, let's be honest here, not fucking mister fucking fit here. I'm on sts Figger all right, Yeah, people like I think they forget

the fans really never saw him fat. I mean he was when he was in the nation, as you know, the suit wearing guys and puts to the table, but they didn't really let him be a television character until he slimmed down significantly. They told his odd time that he dropped a ton of weight. But it's not like people remember him being in the ring having matches

the size of Mark Henry. Yeah, but there it is. Mark Henry hits that cool sit down deal from before where the guy's draped in the middle ropes and he doesn't just land on his back, but he slides all the way to the floor. Pretty cool that he get to the top and middle whee. I always totally listen, I agree on I think I think he does. He does well. That spot always got to rise out of the

crowd as well. Oh, by the way, an attitude era steal at the bottom of the announcer table right that strip of like metales so so pointy, so jagged, so many bolts that could be sticking out and cut Yep, doesn't matter. It's cold. The tables were cold back then. Now they're plastic. Back then they were cold. Unforgiving, unforgiven, unforgiven. That's right back, and Mark Henry hits a lariat, but Dilo doesn't drop,

and then he hits another, So there's a cross up there. Some something was that so he doesn't draw all that too, and then does it again and leaps into a cross body and like Mark Henry slowly timbers down. There's something off here about their communication. I don't know what it is. I think it's a one two because there's no communication iris whoops reverse, Delo tries another cross body and they edit whatever this is. They edit it on

peacock where you like, you know, Delo's in cross body position. Then all of a sudden, they jump cut to him being slammed. Yeah, and I watched the original broadcast. It's like the most pointless edit I've ever

seen them do. I mean, it's literally a half second that they edit out where Mark Henry doesn't put his hand in the right place to slam him, and then he quickly corrects it. It actually looks more impressive considering he's a you know, powerlifter gimmick right like he can course correct when he doesn't, you know, when he does something clumsy. And they took the time to edit that out. That blows my mind. It blows my mind they would edit that out, but they did. I mean, maybe there was

something that Peacock didn't like. Yeah, well yeah, I lack the ability to know if it was a pre Peacock edit. You know, we'd go through this all the time when we see an edit on Peacock not knowing it, I know, you know, I was really bummed. I was. I was trying to see if I could find my h you know, I've got all these I've been going I get all these VHS tapes. I was trying to see if I had my pay per view copy of it, right but I don't. And then at further it's like, is it a network

edit? I don't know. Was it a VHS edit when it came out at home video? Maybe? Right, right, So it's all very possible, But yet they can't edit out the four minutes of the Jericho XPOC match where the whole crowd is turned around, not even watching the ring, watching some stupidity in the crowd, whatever it was, I don't know. Curious choices. Well, it's interesting, what are you talking about? The last one was out. Yeah, there was the botch in the the Jericho JBL

match, the two thousand and eight Royal Rumble that we just did. There's another curious edit that someone looped around, by the way and can firm was edited off of the home video release in the older at at least the WW network version, not just the Peacock version. So Whip is reversed and Delo tries another and that's there's the edit. So then Mark Henry slam him hits a leg drop for two. They go to the corner corner to corner Whipsternham.

First into the corner goes Deelo Brown and then a barge from Mark Henry. He purchased Delo up top flips him over his shoulder like he's I don't know, like he's doing an Emerald Frozien. I mean, I don't know what the fuck he was going for. He just like forced him to moon salt off the ropes. Basically, it's like, yeah, I mean, it's like a it's like an exploder, right suplex of sorts. Like it's insane. Yeah, it really is insane. It's like it's a botch.

But like if you did it on purpose, it'd be pretty sick. Yes, that gets it too. Dilo comes back baseball slide underneath the legs of Mark Henry, and then he goes for a hurricane Rana apparently like you do. JR. Says maybe Mark is now hypoglycemic as well. So we're looking up like like Diagetes terms and things. Again, let's let's let's remember here for a moment. Delo Brown, okay, real deal, looking at the real deal, pulls out a fucking hurricane Rana. Oh my god, Mark

Henry, what on this massive, massive man? Yes, I mean the fact that he goes fucking upside down inside out is miraculous on its own, absolutely, Like, what the fuck yeah, it's it's out of control like these days. Would be like a instead of an Olympic gold medalist, this gimmick, Mark Henr would be a no Zepic gold medalist. You know, Russo would definitely book him to go on like weight loss drugs. You know, Oh for sure, whip is reversed either the flying forearm at scores crowded

with him here is he's trying to launch a come back. He hits a heel kick as well, and then he does that leg drop he used to do where he like shoots his arms in the air. First yep, yep, that gets too and then Henry is reversed on a charge to the corner, some mounted punches. So you know, Mark Henry clems to the mirror rope to bunch Dilo in the head repeatedly. What all that is is a way to get him into position for power bomb. Remember Delo would do the

running power bomb out of the corner. Of course, not for long. This is a month before the draws tragedy. Oh yeah, where that exact running power bomb drops draws on his head or or at least causes him to fall on his head and be paralyzed. And never again would Dilo do the

move. But here, uh, let's pray that. So he drops Mark Henry out of the corner where the sit down power bomb doesn't travel with him much because he's so big, but it still looked cool, drops him in the canvas big pop, and then he goes to the top rope and hits the low down frog splash for the one to two end the three nine minutes, eleven seconds, Delo Brown defeats Mark Henry and he becomes the European champion

here at unforgiven. That's wild, I don't know, man, best Mark Henry match I've ever seen, I'll definitely say that, and best fucking Delo Brown match I've ever seen. Wild, like totally unacceptable, actually really surprising. He hits good, he has the good ones with an XBO I remember, I don't remember, but I guess, yeah ninety eight he did. Yeah, that's what comes to mind for me, But I don't know.

I mean, that's the thing about the Mark Henry run where he actually was a man of effort a little bit there and actually was over I don't remember any great matches during that time period. No, No, he was just over Michael Cole with the acolytes. Now they're acting like the APA, but they still have the hieroglyphics of the Ministry on their chest. Yep, so bizarre. It is bizarre. It's unacceptable. Again. Was the Ministry still

a thing when Taker disappeared? No, no, because at the time it had all broken up because of because of I believe Vince mric Manhn losing the uh yeah, the the control because he was the control of power, right, and I believe that, well, this was right, you know. That's the reason he talked to the Big Show. The way they got to the Big Show before hid is because they were him. Yeah, they were that fucking but that wasn't a ministry team. No, it was not.

At That's what I remember. If Big Show was on their ministry, but he wasn't. No, no, no, no, They were on their own thing. JBL says. A lot of people are hoping we met our match with the Dudleys tonight. The Dudley's just came into the company brand new, and I remember, yeah, this is the first time I think I ever saw them really ever in your life, ever fascinating. I only ever saw what did you remember to think of anything like who the fuck are these

clowns? Like what is going on? Yeah, that's one thing about those ECW acts. Man, if you didn't see them over in ECW, they showed up. Sometimes it's like what the fuck, Like, yeah, yeah, this guy looks like a total JABBRONI like, like, you're kidding me. He looks like this is an India. I don't understand what what the fuck this was? So they said, we've already sent one team packing from ECW. Tonight we destroy another. Do you know what that is a reference

to? No. In March ninety nine, on Sunday Night Heat, the Acolytes beat the ever loving shit out of the Public Enemy. Oh yeah, because they had at the last minute said they didn't want to do a table spot. You know they would they would get picky about what they wouldn't when doing matches. It was a pain in Paul EA's ass as well. It

wasn't just WWF that they pulled the sin. I'm sure they did similar things in WCW also, and just you know, so there is basically like the wink and the nod like teach them a lesson, and he watched that thing and it is just like a one sided assault like you've never seen on a

w W w w F show. They give them nothing. Those those are the good old days of the fucking h of the of the you know, the like Acolytes and the kind of you know, having those fucking bullies up up on top throwing their ship exactly so they I'm not doing that, I'm fucking gibbling bits, gibbling bits. So they played off the lore of that to add I guess another element of intrigue to the Dudley's match, thinking the Dudleys were, you know, off the same tree. Simmons said, we're

going to meet our match. Why because why do they think we're going to meet our match in the Dudley's. He literally says, because one is black and one is white. M Yeah, Ron. Everyone said, yeah, that's it, that's it, dude, right and he says they can see the punk asses are no way matches for the Acolytes, and all of a sudden there's a brawl breaking out around the corner. There's something happening off to

the side, and crashes in there and others I don't understand. See Joey abs Dras before he was paralyzed, yep, and Chazz Chaz aka Mash of the Headbangers. Yeah given you know, real named Chaz Fullington. I think his name was or chest something like that. And he had a makeover gimmick. First they went with beaver cleavage or he was matched up with this this woman here, Marianna, and she was missus cleavage, and they would do skits like beaver leave it to beaver, where it would be black and white

and like a you know, a typical like nineteen fifty suburban home. And he's basically a little boy perving out over the the the the cleavage of his mother. I'm sure that I'm Vince wasn't involved in that writing at all. Oh no, been nondud But what and so that was the ships. No one wanted that to continue. So what would you do? Maybe maybe we'll make him, we'll make her his at his girlfriend instead of his mom.

And he beats the ship out of her, or at least, she has bruises on her face as if she's been domestically abused and is accusing Chas of having done it to her. Of course, Chas is completely oblivious to why it is that he'd be blamed for the bruises. On her face. He's as concerned about them as anybody else. So you know where this is going. You know, bitches will lie about getting beat up. That's basically I

can't where it is. Here's a segment before this where Marianna is interviewed about what's been happening to her, and she's got this big red bruise on her lip while she's doing this interview. Great stuff here. These charges of abuse by Chaz are very serious accusations. Terry. I've done some things in my life that I'm not proud of, some things that I'm just downright ashamed of in that incident with Sean Stacey, like that was just a really big mistake.

And I try to apologize to Chaz repeatedly, but you just tell me this, what woman deserves to get to get this, to get beaten repeatedly, there's gonna do no trouble, No trouble. What is your story? It's over. We're here trying to trying to talk to her about this this stuff. What. I don't know what's going on? Why going going to jail? God willing. I mean, I'm intrigued. I can't wait to see what's gonna happen next. It's a bunch of fucking ideas, I'm telling

you. Man. If Russo stuck around like another six months, it would have gotten a lot darker. He would have gotten way crazy. You think you're probably right because he had nothing. You know, he was running out of AMMO and going down this road like what the fuck is this? You know, m it was so bad, so short lived too, Our homie, Matt J. H. Wrote when he was looking over the show and helping us, he wrote, I've got he unforgiven on while working from home.

This is the first WWF show I've watched since the Janelle Grant lawsuit, and it is uncomfortable. Oh yeah, oh totally. Everything that has happened so far feels like a Vince Kink playing out everything. I feel defiled. The attitude Eero was about crushed leaves and males. Yes, yes, that's exactly what it was, folks, Oaks, we should have done that. Actually, there had to be at some point crush a crushed leaves match. Oh cinematic. Yeah, Lilian is now with Debra and Cat miss Kitty.

You know what's great about this time period that Jerry Lawler would always go here kitty, kitty kitty. That doesn't get annoying. It's great and it's certainly not pervy either. I mean, boss sont forget he fucked her. That was his wife. He left the company because she got fired. And they show her on the screen. He goes, whoo, she looks like she's fourteen, by the way. Yeah, so, Lilin Garcia says, she

looks like a beauty queen in the South. You know what I mean, she looks another beauty queen like you know what I mean when they the girls go in the beauty pageants when they're like ten, yep, yep, exactly what she looks like. Lilan Garcia says, it looks like a business relationship. But Jeff Yard is over Deborah, and Deborah says, the first time Jeff Yard has put his hands on me was the last time. And oh, I don't know what happened there. I don't remember to he shove her,

I don't remember. I don't know. This is there's probably at the time Steve Austin was bagging her for real. Oh probably. Jeff Jarrett comes in with the Intercontinental Belt. He says, is that a threat? Are you trying to tell me, a woman is going to hit a man. Stay out of my damn business tonight. Let's go kitty. So Jared's with kitty now, yeah yeah, and she's got she's all blonde and done up to look like Deborah Most Yep, yep. Take it back to SmackDown.

We're trying to hit jiff Yart in the head with a pan as you're trying to put a figure four in a stage hand, and then trying to literally puts on Jeff Yard's pants and then puts the the apron, the kitchen apron on Jeff Jarrett and puts a pot and pan. And I don't understand why putting on his pants had anything to do with anything one of the pants in the family. I guess Jeff Jared's music back then on to play because I actually I love that. I love his uh his ninety nine theme. Absolutely

it should be his always theme. Oh totally. He's the only one that ever worked that. I mean, the original one wasn't too bad. The double double J was awful, awful. I hated man Bennie Benne needed it was a noxious that was one one one there we go, oh brother be prandom, bring out out no no, no, no, no, no, no no. So he comes out with his guitar. Miss kitty with her hands. He Lawler says, here, kitty, Kitty, Kitty, Jeff Cherri's the first man, I don't give a history to lose a major

title to a female. They say, if you lose one tonight, yeah, and oh man, this gets a yeah, this gets a little uh interesting. Kier here, can you imagine the embarrassment here tonight if Jeff Jerrit becomes the first man in ww's history to lose a major title to a female? Wait a minute while, would that be an embarrassment then, because you're

a male showman as big they are. No, I just I could be somewhat of an embarrassed look for a male athlete in this day in time to lose a title, especially with Jeff Cherrif's mind, Well that's a showman. Didn't think one of you again, me, I tell you, I hate to say that I agree with Jerry Lawler, but I do Devil's advocacy on full display. That's pretty fucking yeah. Like, I mean, it's definitely

of the time. For sure, there was there was still I can remember that mentality still being existent of like you know, you don't want to lose to a girl. Oh totally yeah, yep, and China broke that mold got to give her that, sure, No, no question. China still coming out to Triple H's theme at this point in time. Yeah, even though they have nothing to do with each other on television. No, they're so far apart from each other. Am I wrong? I think you're wrong?

And really yeah, because I don't remember her being well maybe at this point. No, I mean, she doesn't come out with him in the main event or anything, doesn't but they're together on TV, like when he breaks j R's arm the night after SummerSlam gets the title shots. But after that, I don't know. I it's so weird that I don't remember when she stopped coming out with him, because also she's a babyface. I know, it gets weird. It's very weird. But she comes out with his

music. I mean, you know the fact that she doesn't have no that is that is gonna treat me like a woman. Yet, don't treat me like command. Don't you treat me for this man now? Man? No? No, no, got it perfectly done hoofing and what am it's like that? Like it's so stupid. Uh so Jeff Jared versus China. Here, Jared puts the boots were As soon as she slides into the ring,

he misses a sit out on the rope. Cell Whippers reversed in China with the shoulder block and Jeff Jarrett flipped over from the impact of the ninth Wonder of the World iris whipping. Jeff chaired with the baseball slide up and eats lariot corner to corner, charges into Jared's back elbow is China. I was surprised at how I was surprised at how little offense China got. Yeah in this, I thought itind of yeah, a lot of stuff. I mean, I guess maybe I don't know. I felt I felt this could have

been, should have been. I don't I would prefer it to be a little more one sided. I mean they did the way the match ends, it doesn't really you know, you kind of don't want it to be like that. But I was still like this, she doesn't feel right, like she's getting her ass kicked this whole fucking time, right, and you'd want her to get at you know, make it at least a fifty to fifty

type of match. It's always so tough intergender match. The guy has a punch a woman in the face, you know what I mean, and she has to sell it like a male would sell the punch, and it's like, oh, man, like it's heat, but it's almost like it almost takes you out of it, you know, I mean, I guess you know, I don't. I don't think of it like this though, because because I mean, you know, she was different. No, she got, she had it over. She got since I got away with it.

This is what I meant. She found a way to make it like not string credulity, Like you believe that she could have absorbed these blows, and you believe that the male felt like he had to do that because he really had to, you know, compete with her. But that isn't And that was a case in China's matches, but it's not always the case when they have men versus woman matches. Sometimes it's like Tesla Blanchard in a TNA.

It was like it's a little too much when Restler started punching in the face because the size differential was there, and it was like, I don't know, it was kind of a different proposition. I mean, you'll say what you want, but it's like, you know, we don't have female boxers versus male boxers, and that's what it feels like at times, you know, or like if a UFC fighter, if the UFC guy fought a woman UFC fighter, it's like right, or about punching in the face. Right.

But they're they're mixing it up and it's it's going along well. Crowds with it. Uh, middle rope goes Jeff Jyard. He get He says, get your wrass up, and he leaps with a double axe handle attempt, but China with immediate groinshot chin out the clothesline. Jeff out of the ring. Jr. References Billy Jean King and Bobby Riggs. Okay, uh, Bleman's the referee, by the way, he was a scab too, yes. Oh, And they do make a reference to that and they talk

about he's not just a scab here. This is a lawlor, being lawler, not just a scab referee Harve. He's like, he's like just a real scab. I beg your pardon. I beg you from what that means, I beg your pardon. Yeah. Jared trips China from the floor and runs with a crotch first into the post. You know, there it is. Does it hurt her? Does it hurt her? I mean, I imagine Laller s that would the career there. Jerr says, China's not not normal and she's not a man, so thanks for that. She's not like

most men from what I understand. Yeah. Uh. Jeff Yard drags China out and she free falls to the floor hard. I mean she goes sorry, oh god, no protection, Uh, Jeff Jarrison. I walking Kitty around by the arm, you know, kind of like bossing her around being a chauvinist idiot. And then back in Jeff Yard climbs uh cross body block scores one two. China presses out of it. She actually kicks out, not just regularly. She gorilla presses him off her chest. It's pretty cool.

Whips verse. Jared ducks under and tucks in a drop kick that drops Chine to the canvas. Lawler says, Miss Kitty looks perfect as a corner. Corner whip then sends China inside out. She lands on the apron. She ducks a lariat though, and drops Jarrett with a clothes line. She climbs, the top rope gets cut off and there's a middle rope super plex, but China forgets to put her legs up when she hits the canvas. They're supposed to be that thing where you super plex and then do an immediate

cradle. Yeah, but that's fine. Jared Jarrett writes the ship and gets a one two yeah, yeah, yeah. Whipped at the corner trying to missus Jared with the divorce court arm breaker off the middle rope on that bad arm. We've got psychology here, we do. Lula and May Young are suddenly show in the front row. You were gonna say that's aid psychological bass. Indeed we have, so Molin May Young are in front row, jeering at Jeff. Jared had broken guitars over their head on television in recent weeks.

And they have tasted the anguish from jiff Jeff Jarrett. That's how Jared puts it. They Mamula and Young have tasted taste of the Oh God, so have we, by the way, Yes, reversed whip taste Jarret. They kept up in the corner. China stops shoves him into the corner up to the piggyback position and she hits them of an electric chair drop. Jared comes up, ducks lucks on a sleeperhole. China elbows out, charges into a sleeper again does China, but she slips out and hits a nice delayed

vertical suplex to a pop. Yeah. China then comes up swinging. It's a nice power slam to a pop for two just does Jeried's as fuck this, we're going lucha tries to rana, but China counters the rana with a set out power bomb and there's a half star for you. That's right. That gets two. China up to the rana and j and Jarrett power bombs heard down this time, so she makes the same stake he made. Yeah, she should do the her kanana. Remember, I don't know, I

don't remember. I mean, honestly, the only the only crazy athletic maneuver that I remember is the back ham spring in the corner. Yeah. Anyway, jarreted power bombs are down. It doesn't make a sound though, and normally because her body was lighter, but it's kind of like underwhelming. Then Jared steps over for the figure four, but he's kicked off and goes up and over the ropes. China grabs a chair across the back. I'll give him that for selling that one properly. Oh yeah, he soared, he

took flight. China cracks him across the back with a steel chair. Ref does nothing. Jared chairs as a judgment call I guess attitude. That's righted. Then China folds out a chair and drops Jared's face on it. Jarrett then charges and gets back dropped into the Spanish announced table. They come back in center ring. Pedigree attempt by China, but no. Jarreed scoops the double leg and catapults China into referee Harvey Wiplman. So no raft. Kiddy

feeds in a guitar, you know. Jared jumps down Jared's throat saying, you can't beat this woman one on one. Who's got to use a guitar? And then Mullah gets into the ring at a snail's pace. Of course, she was a North Carolinian. South Carolinian had her wrestling score there forever poor women. So she makes the drive along with Johnny may Young and they take the guitar away before Jarreed can use it. They both land shots and he's pinballed around a bit Asjeff Jarrett to a big pop and they take him

up and over with a I don't know, a double souplex. What do you what would you call it? A double's body slam? I guess, I guess it's something. It's they both put a hand between his legs and the front flips for him. Basically it's a nice pop. But then Jered give me right up. It's tremendous. I know, yeah, he just I mean we're talking about the no cell of no cells gets up and fucking kills them with a double clothesline. These old ladies get absolutely leveled decleted in

Charlotte. Yep, yep. I mean it was fucking tremendous. I mean, it drilled, it was risky as hell, it was kind of stupid and in principle, but man, when Jared would go all in on on on dropping them, oh or the Dudley's you know, power bombing him, it was something to seep. It was. It was because I mean they you know, it's because as as tough as like May Young or Mula were, they looked like brittle boned women. Yeah you really were convinced they were

right out? Yeah. Well, not only that, I feel like they'd shatterstioporosis. Yeah, you know, like all of a sudden, like you'd see like fucking shards of Mullah, the shards of Mullah. I mean, Lawler absolutely bursts out in laughter when they get double clothesline, just losing his He's it's so it's so sick, you know, this kind of abuse that that they you know, that they were willing to. I don't know,

it's it's just it's absolutely sick. And Jr. Comes with a damn him and all that, and then Jarrett fucking punts may Young and the ribs and Mullah over and over again, and he's laying it into and then he storms and sticks him with the fucking boots he does, and then he pushes may Young out of the ring with his foot like one hundred miles an hour. She's flying same to Mula, and then Debrah comes down the aisle. She shoves kddy out of the way because up to the apron, Jarrett's lining up

at figure four. Deborah gets in and kills him with a guitar shot. Great sell as Jared kind of bends over and then collapses. It's a pretty cool way to sell the guitar shot, Deborah does her power walk out of the ring to a pop. China drapes an arm over Jeff Jarrett. One two, three, eleven minutes, fifty two seconds. It appears that China has defeated Jeff Jarrett to become the Intercontinental Champion. Does it not? It appears that way, but come on, get scab refs right, They don't

know better. So Tom Pritchard comes marching out, cuts off Whippleman before he can hand China the Intercontinental Championship and points to the tron and they show a replay, which they only do sometimes. Yes, they never do actually right right whenever they do it, it just serves to accentuate how often they don't do it. And yeah, they show the guitar shot and selling Jeff's music starts playing, and yep, they realize that they're going to take the title

from her. So China starts attacking Tom Pritchell in to the corner. She screams walk out to him, like walk out of the corner her total audible golp. Yeah, and he does and gets nutshotted and then pedigreed and man, those arms were tied up. She didn't let the arms go, Tom Pritcher takes a header into that mat. Oh my good god, big heat. And that's that. It looks like it was like a real legit bad decision or whatever. Like Tom, I feel like Tom Pritcher really took a

fucking totally took a real blow there. Yeah, there was a lot of non someone else takes the pedigree around this time, non worker it was JR. Somebody. It's like, yeah, they didn't protect at all on those pedigrees because if you like keep those arms hooked the whole way, Yeah, you know you're sacked on that. You just like your head just stick it out. I mean unless you're unless you're safe and your head is up close to the crotch of the person. But even then, you know, like

once the brake's hit, you could brew. Yeah. Referenced the h Thy Kingdom Come DVD they did in Triple H on a part one of the show. One of the things that you know, they had him talking about his influences and they were showing clips of Flair and Harley doing their things and how he mixed their spots. Harley used to do something that kind of approximates the pedigree. I think we've seen it before he kind of has the head between the knees. He jumps up and down. He kind of like holds the

wrists instead of under hooks. Yeah, and I didn't really realize that Triple H took that from Harley Race as well as the corner the Contes corner bump. So that yeah, that's that. So no announcement. Jeff Music starts playing, and then Sunday Night Heat. The clip is a cold Stone cold Steve Auston from earlier in the night. They asked him, what will the impact be of view was enforcer. He says, there'll be a new WIF Champ and that's all I got to say. Good stuff used to say.

Loland says, we need a new scab raft Jerrisis. You should have cross the picket line, Lawler says, then we wouldn't be able to have this night if they didn't in Jerrisis. Maybe they should have settled the strike. What a novel idea that would be. This is like union politics on full display. No, here we go, Dudley's on out in the e CW

tied high. Oh boy, yeah, introducing them as half brothers to the WW universe, and well we got Bubba cutting a stuttering promo here during the old stuttering gimmick, before he hands off the mic to his uh, his brother Devon Arlane, North Carolina, shut suffering fad, Devon slapped her to the head. Yeah, you got to say it right. We are Dudley Boys. They don't laugh at that. That's not funny. Baba and Devon have the same father, We're told speaking Divon, they're not making fun of

me, are they? He good nights. You might have given your soul to the dug side, but your ass blows to the Dudley Boys. Women shall not steal, shall not deal, and most of all, no show not mess what doc lease? Okay ha ha, So there you go. That's kind of like they're They came in I think in the first SmackDown last week of August, so they've been around a couple of weeks and there was a jbl Bubba match on SmackDown, but this is their first pay per view.

This is their first sort of unveiling in that way. So there come the acolytes before the APA music. Yeah, we mentioned Lawlers is extremely crappy wrestling, So shout outs there, there we go. Jaris is Dudley's a former ECW Tag Champion, so they do put that over. And here's some words from the Dudley's on an our video shoot interview about coming into the coming into the company having considered the history with APA and Public Enemy and if they

felt they were the next in the crosshairs. I guess there was an urban legend of sorts. So I guess when you worked with there's an alleged going around or a rumor that when you guys worked without Simmons and Bradshaw, they worked real stiff with you guys in the first match there to send a message, what are your thoughts on that? Or response? Well, ask Ron and Bradshaw. In the message that we sent them that night, the message

was reciprocated tenfold. We knew damn well that we were going to get tested our first night in. We're our first angle in with the acolytes because of what Public Enemy had done before we got there. See, Public Enemy left a really bad taste in people's mouths, and their final night there or the final couple of matches, Ron and John beat the shit out of them. We came in with the perception of these guys are going to be worse than

the Public enemy. So we got in there the first night and the story goes like this, we were supposed to hit the ring and hit him with two by fours. To hit a guy with a two by four make it look good and not hurt somebody really bad is very difficult because the two by four is such an awkward you know, it's just awkward to do. So I was I was like, Devon, there's no way in hell that's it's our first night. We have to cream these guys. We gotta hit him

as hard as we can. But I don't want to do it. He's like, I don't want to do that to Ron Simmons or whatever. So we went up to Ron Simmons and I said, mister Simmons, you think maybe it would be better if instead of two by fours. Then he cut me off. He goes, you do know how to work a two by four, don't you, Yes, sir mister Simmons, Yes we do, so, yes, we'll work. And I told Demon, I said,

we're not working shit. Hit him as hard as again and we'll deal with it later, because we knew we were going to get it back anyway. But to be quite honest with you, remember where we came from for the past four years. What the fuck were they going to do to us that we haven't had tenfold onto us. We beat the crap at each other that night. They beat us up worst, then we beat them up. But at the end of the night, when all of a sudden done, we

shut their hands. We said thank you. We hugged them right then and there we are in our respected block room. Not only that, but we went close ever since. Cool stuff. Huh, yeah, I don't take it, I guess. Yeah. By the way, there was a match one on one Bubba on SmackDown before this where the officials all hit the ring and JBL absolutely pops Bubba in the face with a stiff right hand that reddens the eye of Bubb's face. Bubba is calling pissed off. It's all.

I don't believe a fucking word of this. I mean, I'm sure a word of this in terms of how it's being framed, like the issues were headed off before they ever like appeared for the people. I don't believe that. I mean, that's clearly them initiating. I don't know what two by four he's talking about. I mean, certainly it isn't this matchup, not at all. The cursory glance of their interactions didn't show anything where there was a two by four involved. Maybe it was a backstage segment or something.

But I don't know what he's talking about. I don't know. I don't know, But it is true that the Dudleys did figure out a way to avoid that kind of public enemy heat. That's absolutely true. So it's the September nineth SmackDown if you want to see what I'm talking about, where Bradshaw pops Billy in the face and they're calling each other pieces of shit and you can tell they're absolutely not working anyway. Dudley's verse acolytes, Jar says he's

kind of a smoother barroom brawl and Muscogee. Then we're going to see here, So we get the Muscogee in there corderas we learn has crossed the picket line, Yes he has. Laller says he's a strike buster. Then who is he? Kobashi bubble the corner charge and a super plex out of the gate double team. He is I have heard he is busting strike The APA does a double flapjack on Bubba, which leave there, Yeah, whip in a big whipping a big boot by JBL and an elbow drop gets two for

the acolytes. Bubb and then fires out of the corner and slams Jipp. There's a triple triple flapjack but most of the middle rope inverted and does the scent on backsplash, the big flying move. Bubba does that gets too and then he tries again, but Food cuts him off and JBL climbs and does the rare superplex where the guy who's taking it has his legs inside the ropes. I stand corrected as to whether that's possible. It's happened. See that. Yep, what do you know? It didn't look great, but it

happened. Lawler says, do you think May and Mula reached menopause? Yet they had shown them being helped up the aisle by Sergeant Slaughter. As the Dudleys came to the ring earlier, JBL tackles bub out of the ring in no reaction, just to just match is fucking dead. No one gives a shit, No one knows what to make of the Dudley's dead. I don't think yeah, no, I mean I don't think they do. I mean I had no idea who they were. I didn't like them. They annoyed

me, and you know, I why are they on my TV? Jared says, what if they came out here and slap you around? That wouldn't be good for your campaign in Memphis. So yeah, Laula was running from mayor. I forgot all about that. Oh my god, oh my god. Exchanging the floor, Jerry, I think you maybe maybe you got a shot at doing it at Memphis what I did in Minnesota, right, you

know that's what happened. Thank god. There were no skeletons in his closet, just cans of Coca cola and they found a But never mind, they exchanged on the floor. JBL sends bubb into the steps back in one two for Rux says, E c w that, oh she does here? He said, c w da Does that mean? No fucking id's supposed to be cool that he said that. I guess fucking far Quad Lord, Farquad, far Quad. I mean you call him that, it's like forget, like

he's in no credibility instantly far quad and jibbling bits. Fucking idiots. JB. Bubba rather ducks a lariat his ability belly Suplex for two. Lawler says their father was Big Daddy Dudley, and he got around Devon. I thought it was I thought it was a big Dick Dudley. Well there was a big Dick Dudley, but that wasn't supposed to be the dad. Oh yeah, was there a big Daddy doud I don't believe so. I don't think

they ever talked much about who the dad actually was. But you know, it's obviously you think, you think, you think all the other members of the Dudley's, the Dudley family thought well ship, if they're going over there, we got a shot. Oh my god, well Spike, Spike got a job. Yes he did, Yes, he did. Probably maybe the other ones I think died before they even came in. What wasn't the sign guy Dudley sign guy. Yeah, but he wasn't a wrestler. Really doesn't

matter. He might have thought, well, ship my chance. Yeah, maybe, bless his heart. There was dances with Dudley. There's one or two others too that only made a couple of appearances. It's so it's so grotesque. Keeping on the flying shoulder block drops JBL swinging neck breaker gets to crowd as lethargic as they come. Not it's not Dudley snot Dudley. Yeah, I heard about him. I think he had a shot, thought a shot if Russo was still booking. Probably if you heard that name, Chubby,

Chubby Dudley, I got the whole list year, Chubby Dudley. Think he had a shot. That was Bubba or what it was was Lawlor when a miss Kittie came out. That's true too. Now he die a big dick died in on two thousand and two, so he could have been okay, all right, he could have gotten there. Uh Spike, Yeah, that's that's it. Those are the official official Dudley's fucking bizarre thing. It was if you ever do slapstick the movie, that's where this comes from.

Oh okay, for yeah that makes sense. Sure, sure I know I no slapstick. So JBL hits a followy slam and tags Ron Simmons that gets to big Whip in a power slam by simmons On. Devon gets too up to the Dominator. Devon drops behind, hits a ddt On Simmons tag the JBL. He slams Stevon missus n elbow drop tag to Bubba, they do the reverse three D on JBL one two Here four Brawl breaks out shit show of a match. Yeah, this is nothing doing here, just like it

is just a fucking nightmare. Devon and Ron Simmons on the floor. You can hear their voices echo with no noise. That's the thing. When you build the match around an incident where they were actually shooting on motherfuckers, like, you're kind of sending an impossible standard for yourself, even if most people didn't get the reference. Bubba says screw you before power bombing JBL, and

then Devon lands a top rope head butt that only gets two. Devon's crouched on the top does the screaming top rope back superplex does JBL, sending Devon into orbit long delay that gets a two. Bubba slips in bulldogs JBL for two Peer four Brawl continues a groan with each near fall. Now from the crowd, they're kind of wanting this one to be over. I since yeah, and suddenly, out of nowhere, there's a three D on Ron Simmons

and JBL levels Bubba and here comes Stevie Richards. Well it's the reverse three D though isn't it well d They first did the reverse three D and then they did the real one. They did the real one, the real one, Yeah, and Stevie Richards comes out. He had a gimmick at the time where he was like imitating other wrestlers. Yep, I thought it was a next Sean Michael, right, Yeah, that was among the wrestlers he

imitated with Shawn Michaels. That was before he came to WWF. But he gets in the rings, He got the hieroglyphics on his chest like the AP does the acolytes, and instead of like you know, you know, a foreign tongue, he's got upn a logo for SmackDown on his fucking jest, and all we gotta promote, promote the network, and all we got we got things going on to make sure people are tuning into upn Upp' how bizarre upping is where we can smack our television sets. And despite his ECW heritage,

he shared heritage. He does not support the Dudley's. He super kicks Steve on Dudley, here does Steve Richards, And that sets up the what fuck's that about? He was trying to impress the Acolytes by dressing up like them. He wanted to be part of their crew, I guess, and he do stuff with Blue Mini. I think they had done. I think they had already tried the Blair Bitch project where him and me he were doing like, you know, videos in the style of Blair Witch. I went

nowhere. The word was Vince just didn't get it. I don't understand. And if he doesn't think anyone would get it? What events? There's a movie? I don't what I don't What do you mean the movie? I haven't seen a movie since Austin Powers. What are you talking about? You know, I go to the movies when it's relevant. Great quote. I go to the movies when it's relevant. Seven minutes, twenty eight seconds Acolltes beat the Dudley's here that unforgiven. This it's a major motion picture? Didn't

star Mike Myers. Is he the Blair Witch? Is it a major motion picture? Well, it's in theaters events. Well yeah, but there are plenty of pictures that go into movie theaters that aren't major on the mat For example, you know we have that that that blousting picture coming out. Blowsy's not a major picture. The blousey steam right, you know, I DoD

Blair witch. I don't know what that is. I don't think our audience what either, I prefer what exactly he gets concerned that someone said said something. It is kind of funny, like that's like a perennial TLFX thing. Like every character where it's like that they're so self absorbed that they they think real life plays out like a talking segment on Raw where you go, I go, right, you go, I go. No one interrupts each other.

Everyone gets like three minutes to expostulate each and you don't go until they're guy's done. And that's why anytime someone says something while they're talking, they're completely ill equipped to process it because they're not in listening mode right now. They're in promo mode. But I had my script and you didn't follow the script. What what I love? I love like the thing of like you're talking like you're in control, but the way you say what belies a total

panic and paranoia? You know what I mean? Like pretty funny. Actually someone's trying to present like they've got it all together, and then the second like they thought they heard something, you realize that they're just they're talking, but their mind is elsewhere. Do you ever you see him? You can

get shorty I have, Yeah, I'm trying to remember. All right, Well, there's a there's a very funny moment in there where where Gene Hackman is trying to talk all tough to Dennis Verina and then he hangs up the phone and he's horrified. Fucking Dennis Verena is this mobster? Right? Because now he knows he's got to fucking mobster and now like you know, he's trying to talk all all ship to him, and then and then he hangs up on on Dennis Verina like you know, as a as a muscle move,

and he's horrified, just like it's tremendous. Yeah, that's pretty much what I mean, pretty much yep. So then Stevie Richards extends his hands to Simmons, Simmons totally kills him with a dominator, almost under rotates and drop Stevie on his historically back back as well. I know, holy shadow, that wasn't so funny back then when Ron Simmons was trying to do the

dominator in a way that taught someone a lesson and almost killed somebody. Oh, I can't stand like stop it with this, like why teaching lessons fucking perennial mid carters, right, I mean, come on now, guys, the second they touched the main event like completely repelled the audience. Why are they the standard bearers of like locker room etiquette? And I just don't understand

what the pole point like this. You know, if someone doesn't what I what I what I guess what it is really bothers me about it all is that people come in, you know, you get your guys in w WE, you've been there forever, and they expect the new guys to come in and know all the rules pretty much. Yeah, I mean number one, it's stupid that there are rules like that, like these kinds of rules. But second of all, like how do is to hand them to write?

Or here's the thing, nice, here's the thing. If you build your whole self worth around making sure other people step in their own ship, you don't want to communicate those rules clearly. You don't. You don't want to make it known on the front end because it's much much more useful to you to have people fuck up so that your your spot is to secure as the

person who in horse is the rules just fucking crazy. If the rules are very clear, then they don't have anyone that they can that they are given license to fuck up for real, which apparently is how they get their jollys. So that's the thing, you know, they don't want people to follow the rules at first because they want to tell themselves. They want to have a mark against them. It's same thing that click would do, same thing. Someone's coming in, little bit of steam, a little bit of push,

a little bit of attention. They become completely fixated on trying to find one little inkling that the person thinks they're a bigger star than they are, so that they can go to the bank with that, go to events, get in the ring. But then they don't know how to work sand bag them, you know, stuff like that. So we cut to Luna and Gear all of a sudden making the walk to the ring. Hardcore women's title

is going to be on the line. Apparently, Oh my god, An Ivory your favorite yep dune and uh Dean with purple flailing everywhere, she's fluttering, she's such a fire. She sneaks up behind Luna with a trash can and nails her with him We've got a backstage brawl between lunivish in Ivory, who's supposed tolash for the women's title. Here there's garbage everywhere. They go into the walls and Luna throws a big ass TV and Ivory dodges that they're

doing a thing where they're breaking things against the wall. When someone moves out of the way. Instead of landing weak looking shots on each other's person, yep, Ivory tosses a nice tray adder. Jr. Says Tory, and this isn't Tory Wilson. This is the Tory that was with XPOC was burnt by an iron by Ivory recently. And she suddenly shows up and they go into an office and Luna puts Ivory's head into a copier and runs off a copy of her face. Luna then launches an old rotary phone at the wall.

Literally, this is a throw everything against the wall and see it sticks. It's nothing, by the way, the cameraman goes down on his ass. As they continue to fight, Luna throws Ivory into like, you know, like the lighting that they would do for a photo shoot, like the rigular here, so fucking you know, I I don't know, I used to like the hardcore matches. I used to enjoy them. I used to like the show, the battling backstage and the unpredictability. But for you here,

so it's just so stupid. Yeah, yeah, it's it's just like a filler thing. I said, Okay, like they don't have any ideas for these two, so they're just gonna have a trash can and broomstick swinging thing. I put the Luna's head and trash can and tries to convert it to a cover somehow. I got help her here because yeah, and she gets pissed off with the referee. Yeah, Harvey, what would you know? They're not? I mean, Luna's inside of trash can upside down on

her side. She can't even But keep in mind, don't forget that fucking uh big show or cane pinned raven vertically against the wall. Yeah, I'm glad you remember that. I forgot about that in the hardcore environment. That's right, it was a hardcore environment. Oh fuck. So anyway, Ivory's lunching with garbage can and a bunch of produce boxes and we we're talking skews, we talk an inventory. Is there di stocking underway. What's going on

here? Why is there are these boxes everywhere? I know looting then climbs a forklift and splashes her off the forklift and gets a two on the cardboard boxes. These boxes are full of other small packages and boxes, not the kind of small packages of that stars to matches at all. I don't know what they are. They look like bricks of cocaine. Maybe, I don't know what what I'll tell you. I'm surprised it took JR. This long, but he finally compares this match to a the Sean Family reunion. That's

pretty funny, or a wedding. Yeah, that's true. Luna shatters a broom or something standing against the boxes, and Harvey says the shoulders are down, and Jerr says, I never saw a vertical pin before they call it out. Well, there we go, they got a vertical pin attempt.

Tory comes over the aforementioned Tory and intercepted broomstick shot missus Ivory and gets knocked into a hope chest or whatever the things they carry the fucking enough equipment and the TV equipment, and then Ivory jabs Lun and the cup with the pole hits across the back and pins her on the hard floor as Irish music plays in the arena to no reaction whatsoever. This match taking place entirely backstage,

and it's over in three minutes and thirty seven seconds. As Ivory defeats Luna to retain the WWF Women's Championship in a hardcore match, cut to Lily In saying wow, what a fight looking off camera. Yep, just terrible transition, because it's right there. Wow, what a fight? Like fucking It's like, uh, it's like Daniel stir and hold on too, bring it. Wow? What a hole is that? In the Janelle Grant complaint too, she's with Mulain May and what a hole? Jared said, the better

stay out of my business. Ivy interrupts Mula with the right hand, drags her to the floor, uh and nails her and raining down shots. So for some reason they have Mullin May Young fuck up Ivory here. I don't know why it's awful. I know it's awful. I mean, just retain the title. They're gonna feud together, But I don't know why why I picks this moment to get in their face back in the arena. You think

you know me, but you know what I allow you to know. Here comes edgend Christian being led to the ring, but afore mentioned Jim Dotson, head of security through the people, and of course the Outlaws had reunited and took the straps off rock and fully, but it was a folly and owl snow in the match itself because Rocking and Jobbin, Oh you didn't know your ass better calls. Somebody still got the Golden era tag titles, don't they they do? It was never cycled out now and two is when they come

went out, although now they're back. Did you see those That was my next question. Although they do look more like the SmackDown tag titles of the two thousand and two you know, they're more in that shape, but the SmackDown tag titles were still a variation of the the you know, the classic. It's almost like they should just go with the belts that they're trying to mimic. Yeah, it's almost like it used to be better. I thought that it was so wild during the Attitude era that they never got rid of

those titles and every redesigned them. Here it is, and you know, it almost made it feel like the New Age Outlaws fit in with the great teams of the past because they were wearing the same belts that Demolition Heart Foundation legion of everyone. They they were like, they were this like dominant tag team of the era. You know, It's it's weird to think, and if they had new belts, I don't think I would see them as prestigious

as this I did. It is it is funny. I know that I know that they technically changed something with the belts, but not the general design. The general design was there, amazing, and it's it's so fascinating that they kept that. I mean, they're they're listen, those are always the tag belts. That's right to me. They've always been the tag belts, will always be the tag belt. And that's Anyone who's honest with themselves feels

the same way exactly. I even refuse to believe that Rock and Wrestling Area kids would like prefer the Hogan WF title design before the winged Eagle for maybe six and seven. No way, you know the fucking truth, I don't care what belt he hoisted in MSG in eighty four. You know what belts the fucking truth? Yeah, No, seriously, like the fucking that green belt is an abomination. It really is, all right, it really it's a disgusting display of of of perversion. It looks like that twenty four seven

belt they made that everybody panned. It does. Yeah, yeah it does, and it's got the green The twenty four seven belts got the green belt as well, the green strap, just like the old championship belt. Speaking of tough looks, how about the choker on Billy Gun's neck. It's like latticed like flowery in the months and I can't fucking you know the weird the weird like accoutrement for male fashion in the nineteen nineties, just you know.

But you want to hear the classic promo of the uh I do before we do? Does this confirm that miss Drass flopped that they're back together? Oh? Absolutely? Okay, I just want to make sure you're absolutely listen. He he fucking no, no, no, look he never Billy gunn never worked as a single star, right all right. Every time they tried to do it, he failed. The one Billy Gun failed, the Rockabilly failed. Did you see how high he jumped in that leap frog? He was

in motion when he jumped over the guy's back. To understand he's he's athletic, he's a pure athlete. I don't give a ship. He's he's a great he is a great tag team wrestler. It's so weird that it works out for some guys. Yeah yeah, because he's good at at assisting and he's good at doing you know some some uh you know, double team ship and whatever like, he's good at that, but not at singles workmanship. So but here, here go. This is This is as attitude as it

gets, Charlotte, Welcome to the doghouse. Well, you know the new way down. Lords always kick that shiest it dogy stuff. Now, then let's see if we can't make a little noise up in this belt an yeh, dare I know you want to? Oh, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, Degeneration X proudly brings to you. It's w w L tag team tap into the world the road dog doesn't the

bad by god? Yeah, come pard and I got these two words removing me young and of course if you're not down with that, what got? And the way those teenage boys say, oh yeah, oh yeah, I

mean it's so such anger. I know it is there was such like anger, like entitlement for fucking you know, pussy ship, and like they should be wearing a medium, but they're wearing an x L T right right, right, so pissed, so mad, so so angry, so angry, so sick of getting what's coming to them, right she is, Yeah, like this, it's like, oh my god, can we do any more? Like that's right, what's the shoes, dude, Let's get this down

with the shoes? Brother. Do you know what a billy calls some road dog, like, you know, casually, colloquially almost, Jess, No, I mean I had a hard time with that. In that shoot interview I was watching, he calls him over and over again. I have a very hard time with that. So Tjen Christian versus the Outlaws, Big chance here? Yeah, I did I tell you that? When I was in high school, so like around the time that you know, road Dog was

doing this ship, I used to every morning. So I had a friend Nancy in high school, and she played a lot of sports, and so in the morning at school, before we're all going like we're all we're in the locker room, everyone's sitting around, I would do the whole road dog routine. I'd see her and she'd look at me like, fuck, don't do it. Oh my god. I'd go ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children ages. Bishop curt In High School probably presents to you.

It's a volleyball Chapman of the World. Oh yeah, And I fucking like they could do it all the time. Every day, every morning, I would announce her whatever sport she was playing, I would announce her as that sport. Chance you know what wrestling was. Did she know you're doing wrestling? I don't know if she knew that I was doing wrestling or not. You know, none of my friends, none of my friends fucking watch wrestling. I didn't have a wrestling friend in high school for the most part,

except for France Fapiano, but he was a year older than me. Okay, I forget Francisai. No, you can't, especially with extra whip. Absolutely, yes, Francis Paccino. So this turned in a big opportunity for Redgiene Christian you know, totally totally. And then you know, I mean thing you think about the h the fall they are having here, and I don't mean like the decline, I mean the the autumn because they're this and then they get the their their big match next month, everything for them in

the hearties. So I remember this being a match where I first heard Christian described as a ring general one of the things I was reading online. I was like, really, oh my god, he's stringing things together. And this reputation followed him all the way to Tony Kahn wanted to hire Room because he would read about how he's a ring general all the time and believed it.

But it's funny how like that actually materialized into something where he got hired as one of like the wise men of the a w locker room to be that that kind of guy. Is he a ring general, ring general? I think he is. Yeah, he's in magnificent. He knows how to uh to dictate troops on the battlefield, troops in the battle, how to move assets, that's right. Does he know how to move asses in de

seats? Though this question mm hm, that's always the issue. Headscab ref Tom pictured out there by out by China had been taken out by China, right. Meanwhile, we just saw Whippleman and they act like cord Eris is the only guy crossing the picket line. But I thought the whoopman wasn't a regular I mean, he might have done it occasionally, but he wasn't like a regular one. He was definitely a scap at that point. And Lawler says, you think he crossed the picket line with some BS story about how

he needs money for his family. Oh, jerried says, I just got married for God's sake, like it's a shoot. We didn't know this was going to happen till he a little too much of that on this show, a little bit to much that in this era. True, that's true.

Edge and Billy start off. They chain exchange with some holes and then Edge with arm dragon a side headlock, massive sight of suplex by Edge breaks the holding pardon me by up by Billy Gun dumps Edge on his head all of a sudden, holes in his core correct one Hall Yes, road Dog tagged in and does the shoulder thing before going to work. That little dance he did that, I'm sure never bothered you in iota, not at all.

No, a big fan would chimney with his shoulders and stuff. That was awesome, right for God's sake, and fucking just like weird like exaggerated Jeff Jarrett walk and fuck off? What an idiot? Go back to a rack. He was high, He was high out of his mind back then. Such a problem. Oh yes, oh yes, blind tact. Christian Roducks pushed off riding Chrisians dropkick. I'm draged by Christian in an arm bar, the younger brother of Ed. Why were they brothers? Why was that necessary?

I don't know, I don't know, Lawler marks Mox j R. He says he's stating facts. Maybe you should try that. Jr. Says might get you elected mayor. Guess which facts affects you on in the state. Yeah, right, exactly. Jr. Then says, no one is more attitudinal. Yes, here help, But no one has more attitude though than that he knew it. I mean, is that a real word? Attitude? Only Evince would use it. I mean, Jesus jot lord. I will say that. Would you agree with that? Dam Oh yeah,

I like that right there? Doggy style? Oh that is that what? You're a big fan of their day? Are you like a doggie staff? Excuse me? Play the whole thing again. No one has more attitude though than the new age outlaws. I will say that, would you agree with that? Name? Oh yeah? I like that right there, doggy style? Oh that is that what? You're a big fan of their? Dare? Are you like a doggie staff? Excuse me, King Astray or if he likes a doggy style, King Astray, or if he fucks his wife

doggy style? Do it now? Do it? Do it? Fucking fire your ass? He says, excuse me, and Vince says, yeah, that's right, Yeah, excuse me. Pretenularly, you know what, you know what, here's the thing, Jr. You can hear me. Now, guess what your wife fucks you doggy style? He would he would tell us a joke like that. Laugh, like a joke with no punchline. You know right, It's so it makes no sense, right, juvenile.

So there's a double team now, and Christian is the outlaws takeover? Jr. Says, Billy Gun without road Dog was like a big battleship without a rudder. Okay, okay, Billy Gun Gorilla presses Christians and drops him across road Dog's knee for some double teaming, Lawler says, when May Young and Fabulous Mula are out here, you forgot to tell us where they played football? I know. J R. Jumps on him, you didn't come up with that yourself. You can tell he's all like angry about being called out

for that. Yeah, someone's helping you back there, j R. Says, hit. Lola just keeps giggling. Did they play for OHU? They were cheerleaders there in the in the covered wagon days, linebackers, linebackers, So j R. We were Mula and May Young linebackers and o U Jr. Yeah, Boomer sooner, Yeah, Mulo sooner? Muna, Muna, how about it? May Young? How about it? Hey, Jim? You trouble focusing? JR? You wanna fuck? Hey JR. You remember when your dad killed your favorite pet pig in front of your face when you

were a kid on the farm. You having trouble focusing? JR. I want to tell you something. In a couple of years, I'm gonna have you kiss my ass on television. And I mean, I mean literally, I'm gonna take my pants down. I'm gonna ship JR. Is calling soup. Lex is trying to not listen to this, and j R. JR. I'm gonna kill you. Won't you listen to me? Now? I fucked your wife earlier. Today she's mine. It's like the happy Gilmore guy.

You suck just like you guys trying to do his goddamn job. I fucked your wife two three ways from Sunday Jr. Needed it, she loved JR. J R. J R j R. I'm coming for your wife's pussy again, and then I'm gonna come for you. I'm gonna push you out of a fucking building. Topic j Your restaurant's on fire, JR Jr. You want to know something, Here's the real creme de la creme.

What I stole your barbecue recipe. I know your fucking secrets, I know the sauce, and I'm gonna publish it and make money off your ass. As he's trying to call Edgin Christian versus the New Age outlaw, I want you to think about the fact that I am determined. I am determined now. I've been determined my entire life, and I will be determined to destroy your life. I've been determined my entire life, and I will be determined. In case you didn't get that that it continues, you know, lest

you think it ended. I'm going to watch over to you in your hospital while you're fucking dying, and I'm gonna say, JR. I beat you. I won, I can go to jail, I can destroy whatever I want, and I'm going to still I'm gonna still beat the shit out of you, you fat, dessgusting, faceless piece of shit. And sometimes he gets sometimes he gets a little more cerebral about it, right, a little

more inventive. What he sometimes will do to throw JR. Off his game is, in the middle of a match, he will begin reading and in a very slow and deliberate fashion, a list of addresses of where Jr's family members all live, just the addresses, that's all Ye, fifteen Elm Street, Norman And in Oklahoma. That's a very nice house. Wouldn't want to lose that house, would you? Wow? Twenty five Oak Drive. There's

someone in the living room watching TV. From what my people are telling me right now, Pal, I just wouldn't be ashamed if something happened to them. I see someone changing in the window, Jim, Jim, is that your home? Is that your wife be a tragedy if the house burned down with her inside? It wouldn't it, Jim? And then it comes to the back and they're like that was good, Pal, Sorry, I can't believe you did you know you're this is this is why you're the best,

why you're the best in the business. And JayR Just shakes his head and takes it like he always does. He goes back to the hotel room. It's three thirty in the morning. He's snoring. Hello, Jim, I'm everywhere. You don't know where I'll be, but I will strike at any minute. I will kill you before this night is through. In case this isn't on the nose nft for you. You don't know where I'll be, but I will strike at any minute. I will kill you before the night

is through. He could I go back to sleep? Oh my god, that's a riot that he goes back to that after doing the Oh that's why you're the best. You know that? Like within like six hours he's back to heckt me, doctor Hyde or whatever. He's like, he's like wide awake, you know, even sleep. I'm hunting for you, Jim. I've had a bony arrow. I've got a fucking mishitty bow and arrow. I'm gonna have j R. For sleep. Yeah, sleep tight, sweet

princes. Yeah, so I guess there what he called ship sleepy cranky fat JR. In ninety nine callusing sweet prints and hangs up. It's fucking awesome. So yeah, I guess there is someone back there helping Lawlor. Huh huh j R? Oh God. So Edge comes into the drop kick whips and road Dog and he ducks and starts with the jabs and the shimmy like I said, drop the knee question breaks up the pin. I believe. I believe that j R. Refers to uh road Dogs unorthodox style? Does

he and says that he can keep you off balance? Yeah, it depends how much he smokes. I guess that's a point to the floor. They go. Christian throws road Dog into the steps. What the fuck? Edge runs road Dog into the apron and then he goes, how's the lower back? Roadie psychology because he's got a bad back, and he screams how's the lower back? And the body of the match? That only serves a further

to the story, JR. Calls Christian Christopher at Edge and Christopher, that's so good edgen Christopher Sen's a a book publisher, Captain Charisma Christopher cad or Or. I thought about this too. What was one of Edge's possible names before it was Edge? Rage? Rage and Christopher Christopher Robin out here. Christian gets in the ring, does a stinger splash in the corner on road Dog and a side backbreaker for two Jaris's road Dog maybe new to before this

is over. Road Dog comes alive, though they both try cross bodies and collide to the middle him and Christian. Jared calls and Christopher, like you said, road Dog jamp breaks out. Edge comes in, cuts off the billy gun tag corners of the road Dog, and there's a double team.

They're cutting the ring in half at a quarter star. They are they are psychology, psychological bass archwhipon Edge lifts road Dog in a sidewalk slam position and maneuvers him right into the awaiting arms of Christian, who hits his fallout reverse DDT. Billy Gun comes in to break the pin up. Road Dog takes the corner hard and sells the lower back big. That's back from the Chris Jericho attack where he put up to the table yep, yep, and then

sternham first into the buckling he goes. Christian launches off edges back like whisper in the wind or the poetry in motion thing. Poetry in motion, Yes, road Dog swats him out of thin air with the big right spots. He fucking just hammers him. It's amazing double whip and Dog goes up like he's gonna be double backdrop, but he comes down and plants both Edge and Christian with the double DDT, crawls to make the tag. Billy comes JR. Hold on because JR. Oh yeah, has to make fucking metaphors.

Okay, after this kind of a move, don't tell d D E T on both time double DDT a stereo d d T sung by the road Doll. Wait. Wait, the composition from the multi talented quite the composition from the multi talented road Dog. So I'm just saying I think it's brilliant. I'm glad we agree. I wish we'd have more of that kind of stuff, that kind of talk. So road Dog crawls and makes a tag, and you better believe Billy comes in and it's all athleticism all day. Of

course, so many Irish whips. Let me tell you there's nothing more pure than the athleticism of Billy Gunn after he comes in via hot tag Nor slam on Christian by Billy Gunn gets to Pier four brawl breaks out, Gun tries a whatever, Christian goes by. Let me tell you this, not only is it a hot tag, but Billy Gun is hot and fresh. Christian goes back pizza. What's that like, Little Caesar's Pizza? Hot and fresh.

Road Doug humps Christian in the pump handle position. Rish lands in his feet, and suddenly Matt and Gangrael, Matt Hardy and Gangrel from the Brood show up and drag Christian out certain oh my god. And then Jeff Hardy comes the New Broud. That's right, thank you the new Brud. Yes, yeah, the old Brood left baus Man hanging from the ceiling and the area is still alive. Somehow the camera misses it at first, so the replay shows Jeff Hardy go to the top and hit a crazy top rope missile

drop kick to Edge with the reugh not looking. That allows the Billy Gun to hit the famous or one two three eleven minutes, nine seconds. The New Age Outlaws defeat Edge and Christian to retain the tag team championships here at unforgiven, and thus setting up the Edge, Christian and Hardy's feud that would lead both teams to immortality. You know the here it is, Yes,

it would. They scram up the aisle to the new Brood with Gangrel giving Chase and road Duck and Miss drass Aer together again, Jr. Says reverently. We got to a woman in the crowd screaming as loud as you can. You know, I again I failed to mention to the I mentioned it before in the first thing, but I want to bring it up again that during road Dog's pre match promo he does say degeneration acts despite the fact that degeneration X is not a thing that badly brings to you right right now?

Yeah, non non existent right now, non existent. There's no idity to bring it to you next month. Indeed, something to see Jeff fly before

his body was so compromised. He seems so aerodynamic back then. I know he floated it in break breaking a break in half SmackDown three days ago is Rock and Triple H Bulldog runs him over with the clothesline, and as referee was Bulldog and power slams of Rock and they show all this and then Triple H pedigree so he could pin Rock with the Bulldog counting, and that's how

we get here. Bulldog in China raise the hands of Triple Ah. So the big question is is Bulldog working in concert with Triple H. And they go to Lilian and she's with Bulldog and Triple H. And I didn't assault the Rock. He was getting a little too cocky in the World Wrestling Federation. I was the man to do it and put him down to size.

Bulldog says, Triple H says, don't you worry about our relationship. You get the chopped down any way you can, yes, yes, and uh, when it's finished, will I will leave the ring WWF champ uh cole with boss Man here here, you know what, let's listen to it. I have it. Oh, I do have that one. I didn't think I had it. I have I do have it. Bulldog. Last Thursday night, you shucked the world on SmackDown when you tilted the odds and you

assaulted the Rock. I didn't assault the Rock. The Rock is getting a little bit insulted feration, that's right. And he brought down and I was themand to do it, and I did it well. Triple Ah. It looks like you guys have some kind of relationship. What exactly is it? Do you worry about our relationship. The fact the matter is, in this game, you get the job done anyway. You Bulldog's gonna go out there and he's gonna do his job, and I'm gonna do mine, and when

it's finished, I will leave the ring the WWF champion. He's doing that effect on his voice. He's not trusting his actual voice yet. Fact a batter, the batter of fact he has like I don't know how to describe it. Yeah, he's putting like a false filter nose, like, yeah, that might be it. Anyway. Coles with boss Man, I bet you're regretting what you did to Pepper. Clearly, Michael doesn't know. Boss He's never regretted a single thing he's done to Pepper all these years. Boss

Man says, don't regret anything I do. He says, Hell, I'll shove a nightstick up your ass if you ask another question that definitely gets Vinds his attention. Definitely. He said, is he spent his whole life dealing with people in cages, whether it's dogs or not, And on this night, it's gonna be one no one's gonna forget. Boss Man has broke I come in this fucking incarnation, right, So the cell starts lowering the music and Lawler says, we're not going to be in with the dogs, are

we. You see, he thinks the cage is going to like envelop them as well at ringside and they're bringing out the blue bar cage as well. What a mess, so much logistics for no reason. I know, I know, it's it's totally what a waste, What a waste. And they're talking it through and announcing it's a case Enna sell right, and they're like sizing it up, and Jr. Says, Al Snow had a vision for this matchup. That's unfortunate, Lilian with Al Snow. He's got to help

me on his forehead and the hardcore title. And again the idea of like introducing this chihuahua that that he talks to is to get him away from the head because they didn't like the head because it was over and it was an ECW creation. Tonight, boss Man, for everything you've done at Pepper, for the memory of Pepper, he says, I'm going to be all over your fat doughnut eating ass like one man crime spray you fat, worthless son of a bitch. Okay, good stuff. What's wrong with that Jr.

Says, normal, the chihuaha was butchered, skinned and cooked. Why Al even ate it? Unknowingly? Al's music hits and the briggers start panicking because the cage isn't up yet. But and why why do they do that? I guess it's running a one time, but tell you I might as well have a mentor what's the harm in that? Al out in a T shirt and jeans with a sack flung over his shoulder. Gotta love these guys building the cage and worts. John Lawler says, remember what boss Man did to

Pepper's grave. Jarre says, yes, he urinated on it, and Lawler laughs his ass off. When Jerr says it's definitely likes the word urinated. You can tell yes he does boss Man music. Here he comes say urinate, say urinate. It's a good dang gang gang and singing. Hanging tone on his tron is him spinning a night stick and looking menacing right, it's like weird black and white photos that like pictures him like he has the swelled

right I mentioned earlier. They say, look at you lose his sight got structural damage to the eye, and boss Man stops in the island, looks up at the structure before him and Alice bouncing on the top rope. You know, like, get in here, let's do this now. It lowers, the cell does around, al Snow, who's in the blue in the Blue barc cage, and one guy actually it's building the cage gets out just in time before the cell lands on his fucking head. Dude, I know

what are you fucking doing? Man? Stop it? Like you said, I remember this being harmful to hell in the cell somehow. You know, this is just like the lamest fucking hell in the cell use you could possibly imagine. And it's really the dogs that are the problem. Like the dogs make it the problem. I feel like you could have they could have done something, but I feel like everyone is preoccupied with the dogs. So the rules are you have to escape both cages, the blue bar cage and the

cell and avoid the rottwilers that are in that moat area. And they're nowhere to be found quite yet. But Snow, Boss wait, wait, they're in the moat tier or the moat tier. You got that right, bell sounds right away. Boss Man Circles opens the blue cage doors and Alice kicking him through there and they brawl on the floor a bit snow hits them of the night stick. The dogs aren't in there yet, No, Well says,

I don't get it. Where the dogs? Great question, Jerry, you know like that, why are you starting the match without the dogs? Like this is just like this is part of the problem. This is I feel like too. What makes it so pathetic is that it's not like the match wasn't ready to be executed when when they started, they started the match right, and it's like wait a minute, like just wait, I know,

I know. And and the thing is those these little mistakes like that, like you're introducing people before the cave setup is done, or the fact that the dogs aren't there at the beginning of the match, these kind of little mistakes. The more you do them in a match, the worse it is. Like I feel like these mistakes attribute you know, they they help make the match worse because in many ways, it's not like the worst thing in the world, you know, like, but but these kinds of mistakes

and the lack of thought make it make it the worse. Yeah. Yeah, it's every step they take. It's like the filter production, the in ring action is just not interesting. But it's not like they're making mistakes every fucking no, so they're running right and everything is Yeah, like they just keep making mistake after mistake after mistake. Like if they actually thought about, Okay, how can we make a cage inside a cell mean something and be

unique and be deadly, let's do it. But they're just like they went out there completely unprepared, I think so. I think they went out there unprepared for the match to like carry itself. I mean else, Snow mentions, you knew the dogs wouldn't be the great the greatest, but I think you still probably hope that the dogs would be at least yeah, loud enough that no one would notice what they were and weren't doing in the ring, of course. But uh yeah, and it's not as al it's it's very

trailer too. He doesn't do much. He knows this is a ship, of course. So Snow slips back in and closes the cage. Jordan locks it, and here come the hounds down the aisle, led by the handlers, undoubtedly terrified to be in this building. Yeah, you start to hear the elder barking a bit. They're circling the helmets cell trying to find a way in. At first, they don't even know how to get in there. They close the fucking game, and finally it's open for them. The

dogs are in and Lawler says, that dog is peed off. I think he immediately notices the wet stand on the mat. Yeah, no, he's not peed off, he's just peed Well, there's already cracking up about it. So here's the roll Whilers in pursuit. Boss Man climbs the fence and they start barking. Boss Man climbs the blue cage now and Alice is swinging to keep his hands off the fence. Boss Man's hands off the fence. Al then climbs. They brawl up their bit. Boss Man pulls all over

the wall and the dogs are bunched together barking. But they're not even looking up at al Snow and Big boss Man. They're barking at each other all right. For a moment, I thought, absolutely, you hear those dogs going, It's like, wait a minute, what's the dizz yo. They have more problem. They have more problem with who's in the front row these dogs do than who's in the can. Seriously, because you just can't.

You can't, fucking you know, it's not okay. So Snow hits the floor, expecting the dogs will be in pursuit, but they're They're too busy barking at each other to even like threaten him. So it's like, it's really weird because they have to pretend to be scared, but the dogs are not going anywhere near them. Al then climbs the cell to a boo. He starts climbing the fucking the hell in the cell mesh fence like he's Spider

Man. What's he doing. He's climbing it. He's climbing it because he expects the dogs to be red underneath him, and therefore it would make sense that he would try to navigate this way. But the dogs aren't there yet. He still does it, and then he grabs the roof and gets over the blue wall, and boss Man punches him from inside the ring. So takes a super plex off the blue cage to absolute lethargy. They cut to the dogs that already each other's throats and could care less about the action like

everybody else in Charlotte and watching it home. Boss Man throws Al Snow into the fence. Lawler says, the dog's favorite bone is my leg. Jarr says, this is one of the more unique matches I've ever seen. You know what that means? Yeah, I mean definitely bad shots. You've never heard a crowd care less. Oh seriously, it's so bad. Snow's bleeding. Is he bladed for this? Boss Man cracks my head with a cookie shoot. Imagine Nol Snow laing the match out with his head, and how

he thought the crowd would be when he bladed. He thought it'd be no, no, no, no no. Boss Man, who had hung from the roof of the cell months prior, climbs the blue cage and he's got wire cutters and he's plyers. Yeah, he's snipping the roof of the cell and peeling it back. Snow smacks boss Man in the deck with a bat or something. Wouldn't breaks it over boss Man's back and boss Man comes with plyers in his hand and hit Snow in the face. Boss Man now with

a white powder. I'd take cocaine, but with him it's probably flower. Hurts me honest, and al Snow smacks it into his face a big cloud of dust. Snow swings a stick and cracks boss man he's busted open now too. Yeah, and they have a shovel. Oh my god, this is high comedy. Lawler calls the shovel a Rottwiler. Anyway, let's let's listen to it. Gets it gets, something happens, and I'm don't know what the fuck happens that it just gets bizarre boss man down to a Nia

that's actually just a rot Wilder Pooper Scooper. I know you're right about that, side, Easy Tiger, stay stuy. What was that who said? Who said stay less? That guy? I believe it's j R. Are you serious? I mean, listen, listen to a boss man down to Ania that's actually just a rot Wilder Pooper Scooper. I know you're right about that here side, easy Tiger, stay stuy. Whoa stuy? Whoa stuy. I'm fucking disturbed. I feel like it's, you know, like someone

interrupted the cigar. Yeah, telling Michael hayesh stuy. No, that can't be Jim Ross. Listen to he goes right into it like it's not a boss man down to On that's actually just a rot Wilder Cooper Scooper. I don't if you're right about that side of easy Tiger, Stay Stuy. It's not okay, not at all. I'm actually sitting here horrified. It's so bizarre. I've never heard JR do a voice, I mean remotely ever, sound like that. Yeah, but like he's like doing a voice for some

reason, right when he never does voices. It's not his n No, he does not. It's it's very it's very uncomfortable. Speaking of which else, Snow swings a stick and cracks Bossman and then it digs it the thing into his cut that he broke over his back. This is still going on, by the way, this match. The dogs are silent, so is the crowd. Snow and doing the turn buckle. He says, hey, stupid, and then grabs boss Man's hand and puts it through the fence like

the dogs are in trying to bite it. No one does a damn thing. No, so he's just holding his hand for a second. Two three four. Then boss Man drops Snow boss Man with the weakest shovel shot ever, and to make up for it with al on the canvas, he fucking dunks him on the skull. It just goes boom, and you can tell it's blunt force. It doesn't even sound good. It's just so inhumane when he does this guy and it looks like shit, Like I part of me

just wonders, like, what do you what's wrong with you? People? Like when you get to this point where you're just like, something doesn't work and then all of a sudden you start hurting the other person. Story of JBL's career. I know he's gonna start hurting somebody. Ah, like, why why do I do this to people? It's amazing, it's so like, it's it's really sad. Alison is ailing on the mat calling spots, looking around with no clue what to do. JR. Says restaurant quality,

pepper steak, and then a Snow calling spots at high decibels. I mean, give him the megaphone. At this point, dog, he says, dog the doll. Yeah, dogs, the dog, and then he's talking about tape or something. You can hear him say tape as boss man handcuffs Snow to the ropes. I'm not gonna get out, JR. Says, But other points out that you can't get out of the dogs either, so it's actually not the worst thing to be handcuffed with the ropes because you're away

from the dogs anyway. Boss Man just raises his arm as Snow struggles to get free. This is painful. Boss Man going at a snail's pace up the blue cage to a hole on the roof that he had cut earlier. Somehow Snow yanks free. I don't know how he got out of the handcuffs, but he gets booed for breaking the handcuffs. Never heard of that one. Before Snow rattles the cage with boss Man up in that hole and he hangs for a second like starcad none of the skywalkers, and then he lands

on his crot in the top rope. Oh what a what a just awful. Al then produce his head and levels boss Man with it. That gets a minor pop as he hoists it up high. Imagine all this, all this, the two cages, the Rottwilers, the trainers, the handlers, time at the top. All they want is him to hit boss Man over the head with a mannequin head that you can buy for like fifty cents at

a bargain outlet. While they're saying get these dogs over there, and yeah, that'd be nice, there's nothing to be afraid of in this match, that's the thing. But you can tell they built all their spots around the idea that they're in constant fear of these dogs, and it's just a fucking nightmare. Boss Man goes through a hole in the roof. Snow goes through a door and wins because he gets to the door before Boss Man. I guess gets to the floor. I don't know. I don't know why he

was climbing on the roof of the cell anyway. I don't know what the fuck he's doing up there, but he acts all pissed off that Al Snow won. I gets well. I guess if he goes up through the hole in the roof and he climbs on the side, he can get out of there without getting bit. I guess that's the idea. But Al Snow just like takes the risk of stepping onto the floor without a dog in sight, even though he pretends they're right behind him, and flies out the door to

victory. Eleven minutes forty two seconds, Al Snow defeats the Big boss Man, Boss Kennel from Hell. It took us ten ten years to do this one. I know people have wanted this one funny enough, we got to it. Uh uh oh did you say this one? By the way, I missed this sound bite for some reason, but here pull the head out of a sight. Okay, right, I thought it was a very yeah

apropos stuy. Oh, of course. There's like one thing that no one ever talks about in this match that like, I'm going to be obsessed with thoughts we did the match. Thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, Oh god, Okay, it's just it's just, you know, you know, what makes it really a bad match is really that it's not even that, it's just it's just forgettable. That's what makes it a circumstance. You forget everything they

did. It's like it's a completely who cares and in a weird way, it deserves better, Yeah, as a bad match, like it deserves to have some sort of recognition as being such a fucking shit show that it's at least Yeah, they don't fail spectacularly, they just know they just fail and it's it's depressing and it's it's sad, tremendous stuff. And they wait to bark at each other until the match is over. By the way house, boss Man sweers to get out of there anyway, He opens the door and

tiptoes and bolts as soon as he can and snows. Music continues to play, and then they have the dogs run like there's a chase. Bossman of the aisle and the handlers are trying to get them to run, and one of them falls on his ass because the dog takes off with too much speed and his slob is falling all over the Charlotte Colisseu. I'm trying to get his dog in order. For fucking everything sucks, just a disaster hole with

mankind best friend Rock is in this match. Mankind says, the opportunity presents itself. I'll look at the dozens and dozens of Mankind fans chanting the name of the greatest team in wrestling, the Rockinsaw connection, and then they do chant Rock and Sock, and then I will proceed to do what I do best. Mankind says, lacesmack down on Rockey's candy ass. Don't tell him

I said that. So definitely no friends on the enemies in the six Pac Challenge, That's right, And they show Jericho with the countdown sound the lights out, you know what got youa and the Blue Jericho on the on the you know what it is yep, yep, yep, with mister Hughes guy walking with the blue cage down the aisle as Jericho's walking to the ring. Mister Hughes. Jared says, October pay per view is coming up. We're

calling that one no mercy. So that was the first no mercy. That was the first no mercy there there a lot of these shows had had ninety eight versions, right, but yeah, the first unforgiving was April in your House, Right, April in your House. Yep, it was the first after the Austin era began. No no mercy wasn't the October tradition until ninety nine? Right wild correct? Correct Jr. Had the Jerry rather had the hair pointed on top back then, Oh yes, and the long bicep flex

with the stone face. Jericho comes in as the crucifixpose with the mic Tom Pritchard's back. Welcome to Charlotte's Jericho. Not only am I here to save the WWF, Jered says, I'm wondering from what Yeah, her says, shooting out of mirror during the dog match. Pretty well, Uh, I'm here to save this boring brutal pay per view and they pop for that. Actually, yeah, they're not wrong. He's not wrong in that regard.

Weller says, he's been listening to you Jr. By giving each and every one of you what you really truly wanted to see, Jericho says, and that is me why two Jay still is kind of still stilted in his delivery. I feel like a little bit. Actually, yeah, an x poc if you're foolish enough to get in Ken SHAMROCK's place, and you don't have to end your career tonight as well, because that's what each and every one

of the Jercoholics and I came to see. Xt bok x pocks XO Jerris is the dog days of unforgiven her over because here comes Xbox with the green pe boy. Yeah, here we go has single let with the orange trim. He mixed it up. It's it's kind of weird, like, but is it still say d X or is it just a xpot Yeah? Okay, because you know you should stop saying DX. I think that's why it changed colors. Actually, x Pock had let Cane free, remember that, Yes, they were a great tag too. Then he lets some roam free

to pursue individual greatness. Chris Jericho versus Xpox. Welcome to we all do as we all do. Welcome to your first w W pay per view match. Chris, Yes, lock up headler ready, you're ready, Chris, I'll find out. Lock up headlock with the hammer locked by why two ja and a switch by xpock. Why She picks the leg and they scramble to a break. Lock up side headlocked by Chris Jericho, push off tackle by Jericho. X Pock with the leap frog does the backflip and they miscalculated hiptoss.

So that's a great early start, of course. Jed says, Chris Jericho had a stutter step there, excuse me, you get to pull out the stutter step. They slap each other. Jericho starts chopping hard whipp reversed. Jericho does the O'Connor roll, but it's blocked. He ducks the spin kick of Xpock and drops him with the lariat at of TUDERI used to love duck kick, drop the guy duck clothes line drop, Oh yes, very much. Jericho with the big gored buster hangs Xpock after drying the ropes.

Jered talks about how Shamrock was in full hockey regalia when he got hurt. H Okay cares. Jericho works over Xbox in the corner corner to corner whip and Xbox side steps and throws a kick to the face. Educated feet blah blah blah. Xbox with the bronco buster ten per Jericho moves out of the way and Xbock puts the brakes on. Jr. Talks about in a debate with Lawler about who's quicker between the two. They're just they'll they're argue that

for ten minutes, even in KA that'll argue yes, yes. Xbox gives Chase Jericho Stompson on the way back in the ring Irish whip and xpuck leaps over the back, but Chris Jericho with a spinebuster to counter an attempted X Factor. It appears from XBOC but didn't really look right. There's a sign that reads why too w h y two t oo gay. It's fucking nineteen ninety nine for you, I know, right, seriously. Jericho tries the walls. Xbox twists, Jericho goes to the floor the hell of a springboard

cross body Backspock to the outside. Yeah, he goes for it. Here leveling Jericho, mister Hughes comes with an uninspired clothes line right near referee Tom Richard Jered says he should be just qualified and courticized the referee, and Lawler says, due to what a China did, Tom Pritchard might not be in full account of his faculties here. Oh okay man alive? Did that replay reveal that Jericho totally failed to catch x pock and he went splat on the

floor. Yes, he did. Jericho the snap suplex on the outside taking over. Now an Xbox back in Jericho with a great top rope missile dropkick for two. Xbockets to his feet and the crowd is booing at something else. You can tell their attention is elsewhere. Yeah, they don't care if nothing is happening in the ring and they're exploding in booze. Xbox gets the

ropes with a clumsy tilted world by Jericho and a backbreaker. Crowd is now turned, their backs are fully turned to the ring, popping at something. As Jericho comes in with a slingshot from the apron to a splash for two. Xbox has grab a hold, I think something like that, and sure enough Jericho puts a snapmarre On in a sleeperhole and there's section. He sections off the arm so Xbox can't raise the arm and the crowd is continuing to

turn their back on the ring. While Jerry says the crowd has tried to get XPOC back in the match, he tries to leverage that as if they're cheering for xpock is really pathetic. No, no. He also says the Panthers are just one of their first NFL games, so a lot of folks are excited here in North Kaka Laki, Xbox elbows free gets dropped Jericho. It's a lion salt. No one notices what a disaster. Yes, Xbox sucks chan Xpoc for some reason, lunges and ends up in the apron.

He sets up a great Jericho springboard dropkick, and Xbox sells by absolutely soaring off the apron of the floor. Hughes takes over on the outside. They're channing we want Dreamer or something. I don't know. Maybe they do, maybe they want to. They care not discern what they're channing. Xbox ducks and it's a spin kick, dropping White to Ja. They exchange Xbox with

a spin kick lands whips reverse. Nextpock with a baseball slide comes out of the ring and takes out Hughes. He totally like decides to blindside mister Hughes. Xbox with a rare spring Usually don't see Xbox springing board from the aprin end of the ring. Do you no, you don't, you don't. I'll all say that, doesn't it? With the flying Larryat takes down Jericho, that gets too to the corner, Xpock gets the spin kick to the

face. Jericho is seated. X Pock leaps into a crotch kick. Remember he just tried to do the the the Bronco buster and you lift the foot and kick him in the nuts. Yep, I do always a great spot.

Jericho latches off the middle with a scent on backsplash for two double underhooks across the knee goes x Pock. Jericho goes up top, but it gets tripped crouched, and Xbox scores with a middle rope superplex, drapes his arm over Jericho for the one too, and the crowd is listless at the kick out of why two jan Jericho ducks a kick, catches a rona for a powerful bad it's it's really it's it's kind of a shame because it's not a bad match. Now they're doing stuff. It's okay. I think it's okay,

but nobody cares. Now it's it's that distracted crowd that just totally ruins it. I mean, right, they were off on a few spots, but the crowd would have Beth. They also don't care. I think they. I think they also just don't care for whatever reason. Yeah, whatever distracted them to that degree. I'm not sure it would distract them to that degree if it happened during the main event or even Valvinus's match. Honestly, but here Jericho ducks underneath catches a herk can run attemp by xbox by power

bombing. I mean this is back when Jericho thought he could make the double power bomb a thing. Yes, there's only like, you know, one out of ten guys who'd wrestle on roster that you could do that too, because you have to. Yeah, they have to grab your head and you have to pull them all the way back up. Yes, it's a lot. H it's a lot, and it's so fake because the guy who takes the second power bomb has to clutch the back of your neck, right,

It's like, what, here's the counter to getting power bombed again? Don't put your hand around the guy's neck, right, and I'll never be able to go with it. Just don't go with it. But he does it again, dump some of the second power bomb and crawls to cover, but it only gets a two count. Xbox to the corner side steps Jericho, go's inside out like Sean Michaels and gets hung up in the tree of woe. That's the spot he talked about in his book. His Xbox launches a

pocketbuster with Jericho upside down. I gets the rides out of the people and then Hughes gets in the ring, drops referee Tom Pritchard, and then Xbox as well stomps him in. The bell sounds for the disqualification. So a deeply satisfying finish boss on top of it all, Yeah very much. Thirteen

minutes, ten seconds, Xbox defeats Chris Jericho by disqualification. Here at Unforgiven nineteen and to ninety nine, road Dog comes out, goes after christ Jericho to save Xbox, and Curtis uses as well that close line Jericho out of the ring. Jerich Coin's up at the front road with a bunch of nutcases swinging and acting out, and Jericho is tipping over the steers and frustration. Oh yes, and Xbox left in the ring shaking his head that kind of

headshake of someone who was really disappointed in what just happened there. My god, an event time, Yes it is. And the video package strips out what they had going at the time, which is using real music for their main event of video packages. Not happening now it's Eric music, But back then it was system of a down my shitch, my room, no life film music. Oh come away forever, I'm I what do I dang?

There's nineteen ninety nine for you. Excuse yes. So they would play like, you know, legitimate licensed music over their video packages, and it was cool. They would show you know, the name of the song, like an MTV music video in the corner yep. But now you watch it, it's like it's just so stupid. It's like it doesn't even work. You watch these video practice and Eric music, it's like you might it's so weird. It's a weird. Fucking yeah, it doesn't even make sense. It's

just it just looks it looks awful, empathetic, so bad. Yeah, So they show a bunch of stuff that tappen leading up to the match Triple h. Remember he was wearing like the thing that Scott Standard used to wear in his head, that that metal mash the chain Man. It's like a shirt. And they show him pedigreeing Steve Austin at Summer Slam and Mankind and all that, and Jesse counting the three back at Summer Slam and going off on Austin with a chair afterwards, holding Jr. Hostage, crowning him with

a chair. Fully that is the night after Summer Slam, and get the pedigree in the match and the title, and they show a shot of him Unsmackdown, attacking with chairs and sledgehammers and all that shit. They show a buried alive match they did unsmacked Down, remember that. Jeez, I do desperate ratings, man, I mean they just were like, yeah, they were throwing ship against the wall. Austin came out in an ambulance on that episode of SmackDown and threw Drop Leach into it. Yep, I feel like

I did. I feel like that was one of the early times I remembered to watch saw that one. I think I feel like I did, And they say trumple Ah has Austin arrested for assault. They're putting like titles, title cards, the on the on the screen explaining almost like a silent movie.

Yeah, of course. Then trumple Ah bullies Lenna McMahon and Vince stumps out, throws the jacket triple A, challenges him for the for the WWF title and put them through a table with an elbow off the rail, and we know what happens with Vince uh after getting killed with a chair the fences. It's such a long fucking package. It's like, well they got to tuck all this straneous Vince stuff into it, even though like even without the music, it just like goes on and on and on and on. Absolutely

yep. So they show winning the title and the reinstatement and all that to set up the six man challenge and his name is stone cold see Austin ye, and then they flash all the participants with title cards and big show was the first out faults over the top rope and one jump to prove that he can. This is before he had to go shoulder straps in w w F. Oh yes, yes, he was still like I mean, he was like, I've only ever seen show like this, fucking like without clothing in

a long time. It's been a long time. Not even knee pads, no elbow pads, like nothing. He's just it's just boots. Yeah. He didn't have a single strap like WCW. No, just tights. Kind of yeah, kind of concerning, yeah, yeah, without a doubt, definitely concerning. I hear rough, rough, but I don't see jeans. Here comes Davey Boyce Smith now, and then I can see the sixty four bit version of Histrona no mercy. Yes, oh my god. Absolutely,

the fucking images like fading into each other. There was no animation, right, dissolving. Is there a collusion with Triple Ahs and the Bulldog? That's the question we have to ponder here. Yes, Mankind comes out to a nice pop. He does now. So if we get if it's a bulldog and jeans, is that like a spin off of Alice and Chains. Yeah, that sounds like a bad name. I was reading Becky Lynch's book and it turns out that she was like watching and she loved Mankind back then.

Wow, So I'm thinking of somewhere in Arlen Becky Lynch watching Mankind make his way to the ring during this era, Jr. Says, if anyone this matchup's unforgiven and unforgiving, it's Kane and he comes off the infernal match. Of course on SmackDown. They've done a fucking inferno match on SmackDown as well. Jesus, they fucking threw everything at the Dan TV show. We got caught on fire alarts. So how many times this kine been set on fire

in his life? It's a great question. It's a very good question. Although when you find in a couple of years, we'll find out that it was all in his imagination. His son Harry comes better hit me with that triple h Tell me what time it is. You don't know what trouble is, Beanie me he comes trouble mean beenie me mean Beeni me Manimen been. So it's interesting Harry comes without China. Yeah, no, China got those multi colored lights on him, gain the politics and one night without China,

one night not in China, but XPOC would be in China. One night was triple a spitting water. I don't think he was doing that yet either, No, not yet. None of that that's all later, So he hits the ring. If you smell it comes to rock to a massive pop yep, oh god, chip pop, the kind of pop where Jr. Starts going, I wish you could be here with us, yep to experience the World Wrestling Federation. They even have a Rocky mask, a rock Halloween mask in the crowd. Yes, man, have you caught yourself? Rock

was huge? Rock was so amaze, Like, you know, this was keep in mind, this was like they they they played the Rock the best

way possible. It did in that you know, you knew and it's really amazing because I don't think you really have to have a mind for the business right to really understand how to make the Rock into a bonafide supers And I don't know if they did or not back in ninety eight, but the fact that he got over on his own as a babyface after SummerSlam and was the favorite to win that Survivor series, like he was just like you know,

going off on the being the people's champion and all that shit and people going crazy for it, and then at the height of this level of his popularity to turn him back heel and to make him the number one heel in the company only made him become that much more of a babyface in the long run. That's exactly what happened. Like, I don't like that kind of thing. It's amazing that somebody had the foresight to say, this is what we

have to do with him. Yeah, I agree, I agree. I mean, I don't know if they had the foresight to say, hey, you know what, if we do this, he's going to be over as a huge babyface, or if they're like, you know, let's we got to do this. Let's see what happens, because I'm you know, we'll see maybe he'll become even a bigger babyface after this. But you know he was when like when he turned face in the spring of ninety nine, the people were wanting it so bad, so bad, so bad it maybe nervous.

Oh really, Oh yeah for Steve. Oh yeah, yes, I'm not letting this fucking clown take my eye spot. I all you need to know about rock back then. Water droplets everywhere, Oh yeah, every squareage of his body is covered in water droplets. Yep, and he's in peak form. There's only one way to go from there. The glass shatters. Oh god. J goes off, well, rock ut ovation, but this is an ovation. I've never heard anything quite like this in Charlotte, North

Carolina. For any athlete that's that's that is the beauty of it. You know you sometimes sometimes you need to have him side by side to realize that at this time, who still was the real fucking bom out there? About the glass shattering, altels shattering and that hit. When that hit, people went because they knew someone that was about to step the that curtain would not let them down. He would not allow himself to be in something shitty Terry

Funk style, Terry Funk style. Absolutely, you can get excited for s because no matter what, he's going to step into, whatever it takes to make sure that this feels like something we can sink our teeth into and not just throw our hands up to say this is fucking boring. No chance with Steve Austin that would happen. You could count on it. And he gets to the table and raises his arms, calls for a beer can, and he's going to join the commentary team. Here is the special Enforces. Yes,

wow, that's star power right there. It's always great to go back and hear it again, and okay, now now I remember why it was fucking why it felt the way it did. Yeah, six pack Challenge main event, I'm forgiven ninety nine. Rock lays in a British bulldog with right hands right up to the gate, whip to the corner and drops him with a big lariat. Come hell or high water or a cold beer, there will be a new champion to night. Austin says on commentary, I like

him, I like it. He goes to commentary, goes to the colentary table and Camo had in the baseball jersey with the black and orange trim. Yep, give it more. Cartoon skull, Triple H comes in, mix it up with Rock pinner submission, by the way, and anyone ends on that. By the way, Rock main eventing a pay per view in nineteen ninety nine and just main eventing a pay per view WrestleMania a couple weeks ago. Yes, that is absolutely accurate, and Triple H being the last person

through the curtain on said show. That's right, but you'd be legal to get to pinder tag. But it's it's yeah, you know, that rule definitely goes out the fucking window. So hilarious because his attitude era every Man event in pay per view was always no DQ by the time they got to it. But this one, yes, they have to allow for DQ's because there has to be a legal man component because you well, but how but

how do you DQ? What happens? It's not an elimination match? Yeah, yeah, I guess what I mean is legal man matters like you can't pin anybody? Yeah, yeah, but that that goes out the window pretty fucking fair, does Yeah, because this track, I mean, it's it's insane, it's insane. I have no idea who the legal men are. At the end of the match, Triple Achen was rocked whipperverse and Rock drop

Triple A to the lariat. This is as the second half ninety nine as it gets rocked clothesline, Oh my god, we triple ah shucks, Rock hot chuts Triple A just across the top rope throat first for a one to two a. Rock warms up the hand and cane to tags him before he

can throw it. You know, it's funny, you know, I've I've I've said this before, you know, in with Rock and Austin, they both had guys like Rock and Austin when they clashed, obviously that was that was the money, right, you know, when the two of them clashed, that's where money was made. But in but the but they had their go to feuds. Yes, that weren't the two of them, and they were because like you know, you save that that's your you know, Rock

and Austin, that's your Christmas show. Yeah, But in the meantime they had the programs and it's like Rock and Triple H that was their the go to program ninety eight, ninety nine, two thousand. Yes, they fucking had programs when they were both at their at their game. And then on the flip side, Austin had Undertaker ninety seven ninety eight, two thousand and

one, perfectly observed. And those two, those two like whenever whenever Austin won the belt, you knew there was going to be a feud with the Undertaker, there was gonna be a program with the Undertaker at some point, so true, and it always happened. Yeah, but two of them always went at it. So you got scab ref Jimmy Cordero's presiding. Yea came it's a body slam and missus Nilbow dropped triple eh on with the Whippon burst

and Kane hits a power slam. JayR points out how a British Bulldog and Big Show are only two not to hold the WWA championship in this matchup. Kane slugs said, well, at the time, what's that at the time? Time, That's right, Big Slow would eventually get it and Bulldog never would, Blug never would, He'd be the only person who's matched. He never won the championship. Kane slugs Big Show, who wanted to tag, and he climbs in, but Show gets back up and pushes him off.

And work to the wise, Glenn, when you knock guys off the apron, don't climb the same corner that you knock them off of. Yeah, re liable to get up and shove you off, which is what happened here. Steve Austin says he doesn't understand it all this match, but he's got his own six pack challenge right here. I'm thinking, Abody, he's got

a copy of Brad Bluccian's book. Yes he does. Mankind comes in, doesn't work on triple h running me in the corner, turns around to a big Kane clothes line and Kane gets the cover for one Shares's Undertakers literally in Parts Unknown right now, which is good to know. Rocky Chance as fully goes to work on Kine, s no Big Show snatches him and clobbers him to tag himself in It's it's absolute chaos. I mean it is a non

stop, non stop comes in clubbing on Caane. Austin says, finally someone woke his ass up, Big Show and he's showing what he can do. First of a million times they would say that about Big Show in his career, story of his career. Finally he's showing stop. Finally someone woke him up. Okay, is pretty much his um for life, A sleeping giant. Within like four months, he'd be imitating hul Kogan. That would be his gimmick. Uh yeah yeah, and then he and then taking his first

of many hiatuses to lose weight and train it. Steve Austin says he just wants Undertaker's paycheck is being sent a fat fuck. Steve bust wants to know where the checks being sent for Undertaker. Then that'll determine where he lives. And it's supposed to Parts Unknown. God, this is what he said. The show is bending Kane over, and I thought it was. I thought it was not on a roster. Yeah, that's paycheck. That's great question.

I don't know if he's getting that anymore. Steve. It's a big show, is bending Kane over his knee and the Irish whipping Crean was one of the weirdest fucking departures ever. Yeah, it was so abrupt. I remember seeing I think I watched the smack down where he just said, you know what, fucking I'm out of here, and he just walked out and then all of a sudden, the Undertaker was gone. And I was like, like I said, stands the amount of time. He came back in

December and then got hurt again. When didn't you come back in December? Gomery geddon no and tore his pack where he's at Armageddon. Yeah, there's something. He comes back from the groin injury and then he tears his peck. I remember this. Let me see did you undertake her? Because I just remember him, not seeing him on Grant. I didn't see the Armageddon

pay per view live, but I just remember him coming back. Yeah, he comes back on December fourteenth, teams with Visa and a losing efter against Kanan Godfather Puerto Rico, and then he's advertised on the Armageddon poster but torres peck So he never made the show. That's what was He supposed to be there but he didn't show. So wait, he wrestled one match with Viscera

where it was in Puerto Rico is the house show? Oh so it didn't fucking that's why I didn't fucking know about it, which is, yeah, we don't see him until the fucking uh until Mayo for Judgment Day, when he comes out in Judgment Day in this fucking the Triple h Rock Iron Man match. Yeah, and you get uh the uh, the three children in the meat in the video there and fucking kid Rock singing shit amazing, amazing. So Boot is caught in an insiguri by Kane Lands on The Big Show.

British Bulldog is dagged in cane drop kicks. I'm in I want to tag someone, tag me. I gotta get in there. What gotta get his fixed? Who? Smoking cross expect challenge? All right? I got a six crack challenge. I'm gonna smoke crock six times in this match, and there's nothing you can do about it besides watch me. Okay, Davy, go ahead, he smokes, crack, cook me, look at me pipe, I'm gonna smoke in front of all you pitpo what small good crack

and taking names and taking souls. There's so much dry ice vapor in his throat. Do you know what I mean? Uh so? Uh? Cain drop kick showing away hold dog chop blocks Cane's leg. Austin says, Caine's got a little bit of a spring in a step tonight. What's up with that? Brother? Expect that Irish whipping British Bulldog takes a boot and a great bump goes head over heels, actually off Kane's big boot. Now Mankind show tagg Dan show lets out a big coughs ripping SIGs. It's tremendous guy

with a smoking cough in the middle of a wrestling match. Never saw that rock comes in Peppering Bulldog, low blow by Davy though and Bulldog with a great delayed vertical soup play on the rock. That's that's a little too soon, Peppering Bulldog, come on, that's not nice. Think of el Christ tag Mankind and Mankind doesn't want in He doesn't want to fight Rock, so Bulldog tags Cane instead, comes comes up in slugs, can whip reversed up

to the shoulder, Rock drops down side Russian lakes sweep on cane. For two. Rock charges headlong into a sidewalk, slam though by the big red machine. They talk about the SmackDown hotel and how Caine just checked in and rockets a power move in jeris is Yeah into the owner's suite. And then, since Mankind would be a bell boy at the hotel, the only thing they torture more than their talent are their analogies. And Kind comes in throwing on cane, whip, duck goozle. Mankind kicks free, he hooks it

up and pulls the pants pile Driver for two. I'm here for Mankind grabbing the waistband, I know, grabbing, grabbing the waistband, pulling and and spiking. Thank you, Austin to crying cordera, saying you shouldn't have crossed the damn line. After all, Mankind dragged Triple h to the floor and in the steps they brought up the isleway. Austin asks can there be count outs here? And then so tell them no Mankind tries to sup like Triple H on the floor, but Triple H blocks it and sends forward here.

I got that. I got that little exchange because because you get a jr. Warning Triple H not to go outside with Monkyns Triple Ah. So I want to go outside with Mankind because man will do it. Mankind doesn't care what he does to his own body. You got that right. I've been right in the middle of it with it. He'll take you down and he'll sell. But man conn's news of the guy that gets that purse. Can it be a count out right? Now? What's the deal here? No?

Absolutely not? Pepper brother out here, no countouts, no disqualifications. Were a rattlesnake, only ten balls and submissions? Help brother out. I don't know what was that in pages of the goddamn rules. I'm sure calling a thing down the middle? What exactly this before? What a beautiful time? Yes? So uh trip ah Suplex is fully on the floor in the aisleway. And then well, this is nineteen ninety nine. What's rock gonna do? Floor? Oh, he's gonna fucking He's just gonna fucking charge to

capitate. Is he gonna sprint up the island, mow you down. He just fucking can you imagine, like I would be horrified watching him. Oh ship University Miami had a steam exactly, I'm university whatever the fuck it is, and mows him down. Then he punches him in the deck and jar says, that's a unique form of birth control. I guess it didn't work, by the way, Yeah, right, seriously, Austin just gotta let it go. He says, I don't have a I don't have to do

a thing. If Corderis has still got it, I don't have to, you know, use my power as a special enforcer as long as Corderos is still with it. I I really I'll tell you, I really hate the title of special enforcer. I don't know what the fuck that means. It's going to be out at one point, that's what it means. It basically means like you're not going to be involved in the match until the ref gets knocked out. This is going to guarantee happen. It never doesn't happen.

There's never been a special enforcer. Doesn't have law. Uh, they wonder who the legal men are. Jarr says, it's mankind Triple A triple in the steps, and Jerr says, stereos don't taste good. Heve lo my barbecue sauce on it. No, I got that one. I got that one. Okay, what that's steal? Don't paste good even my barbecue sauce on again? That's good, he's doing it again. Please, oh man, Okay, you what that' steal? Don't paste good? Even my barbecue

sauce on again? STI STI stie. That cannot be Jim's voice, Stipe. There's no other There's no other person could be. I mean. He says stay to to to Lawler, and then he repeats it in this bizarre tone that I've never heard of before, like all of a sudden, he's like possessed by a d man literally sty he's the mayor, they say, Mankind is the mayor of no Man's land yeap, which is more mayor than

Lalla ever became, but not Kane. Then Mankind yanks Triple A just tikes and spikes him to the power driver on the steps on the outside that makes always made a very satisfying noise. To power drives someone in the lower half of the steps. They're brawling all over. British Bullock has Mankind in the ring, and Jar wonders if Bulldog even got a tag. Who gives a

fuck? Rocks int into the steps on the floor by Cane. British Bulldog does that wacky front flip in the corner off the Irish whip that he did when he wanted to work. Yeah, so he takes the bride. Mankind holds a Bulldog open for the Rock tags him in fully though has too big of a heart. He slaps Rock back and gives him the thumbs up, and Rock looks like him like he's nonplussed, and Foldy lifts the hands for a pop like he accomplished something by not hitting Rock, and then they watch

Rock's thigh muscles shake before he delivers the stomp convulsing. Yeah, Rock tags big show and does the mocking noise where he used to mock the chokes let them and go oh remember that that was funny. Yes, it's damn funny. And then Rock track tags triple h in the face and here come all the referees. All this, all the protesters have come now like it's like, now let's fucking let's fucking cause some ship a show. Iris, whoops Cane in the ropes and hits a big boot. Austin says, now they

want to come to work in the main event. What's up with that? Lawler calls corderis cadero. They're speculating that these protesting refs have just somehow gotten word that Jim Carderris is in their refereeing and they're pissed about it. And Austin says, what are they striking for unfair working conditions? They've been abused, and Austin says, well, what's new? I mean, that's kind

of it. Like, you know, it's taken how many years for you guys to decide, you know what, I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna play Owen hard and enough is enough and it's time for a drop the whole pretense that if you strike a referee you get fined. They wouldn't even say that. Yeah, so maybe that's the thing they're anchoring too. I guess they shows swats Mankind backwards, whipping a back elbow, cuts down mix headbutt show with

a loud elbow. Spot Call screams it as he slams Mankind and hits in fact the big elbow what's my new favorite thing is to listen for the spot calls oh yes, nice height, big showgun on it. One two Rock makes the slave and talks shit all the way back to the apron. Isn't that great? Breakes up a cover and just talks shit all the way back

to the Rock. Yeah, it's just the god when when he this this era, he was just on fire, like you know, it is one thing, yes, like obviously, you know, the Rock became more confident as time went on, the Rock got more you know whatever. But like this Rock where he was, he didn't yet have the responsibility on his shoulder of being the guy, you know, like he was still proving himself.

He was well more importantly, I don't know if he was proving himself, but he could get away with more because he was still the number two guy to Steve Austin. I see, you know, like Steve Austin was still the most popular guy in the company. He was the guy that h and so Rock like look at look at Rock's shift in character after Austin has to leave and and and he has to step up and be the number one babyface. It's like, you know, here he can just kind of in a

way goof off and and just do shit. Whereas you know, he he had a responsibility, not that he changed his character per se, but he didn't do these kinds of you know, the kind of like talk, trash talking and stuff like like we just described. Yeah, he was in the cherry on top. Yeah he is. I mean, he definitely obviously trash talk. He's the Rock, but it was different. It just you know, you saw a difference in him. Come two thousand, tremendous, easily

great point. So Rock tags in blocks and Jack's the jaw running clothes line and maybe that's also Vince Russo too. Maybe it's a Vince Russo thing, maybe not having maybe maybe the maturity kind of escalated when when when Russo left so a running clothesline and Big Show gets staggered and another and a third time runs him over awesome the way Rock would like not give up on knocking down Big Show. Yes, when he finally does it, he does it with

style points yep. Yeah. When two Triple H breaks it up talking about how no one this match likes Triple H and he's having a hard time as a result to the table they go, Rock takes a swig of beer and spits it at triple HS to a big pop, and that's really fucking funny, says betterly my beer alone. It's better my goddamn beer alone. We'll pass on your Hell. If you're looking to have a drink with me, that's cool, but don't just spit it out and waste it. This was

more important. Don't waste the beaern Cain drops for a backdrop at fully ddts him can't figure out if Mankind wants to win the title or not. Lawler said, he is, yeah, going for it. Yeah, and uh, the ring side photographer looks like Gremlin's two Gremlins two's John Glover plays a Daniel Klamp in the film. Do you remember it? I do, but

I don't know what you're talking about it. Yeah, photogra her just like walking around taking photographs like he just Charlotte post is like John Glover exactly. Man Kind jumps on Cane's back and Austin hilariously says he's gonna work himself into a tombstone position, and that's exactly what he was. Is that someone that Charlotte faced in in NX two when she was Charlotte posted gazette, isn't it I remember that one so indeed fully maneuvers himself right into a tombstone by Caine.

But Big shows a legal man Jar says, Abela says that only it matters. Nobody fucking knows. The show throws Cane out of the ring, goozles Mankind. Cane climbs through and scores with a flying clothes line, and Austin says, damn, what a match. Austin's getting into it, which is cool. You can really tell he's feeling like the chaos. Yeah,

that's always that's fun that he that he gets into that. Well. Duck steps in and hits a big lift and power slam on Cane and then triple H pedigree's bulldog and this is that thing I was talking about, that other pedigree where he doesn't give him any break. He spikes him tough. Yeah. Rock comes in and he's throwing. He's throwing. Oh yes, ox, Triple H out of the ring. Mankind comes with the double arm DDT all the rock. Mankind turns on the rock he does and he gets a

big pop for it, takes the sock out he does he does. I mean that was a great that was a great move. You know. Here he is like proclaiming friendship and brotherhood and stuff, and then he's like nope, fuck it. Yeah. They basically say that he's been baiting in the whole match, and Austin of course celebrates that. Yeah, all right, aup his alley, goddamn le claw locked onto Rocky Chance. Rock breaks free and Rock bottoms Mankind to a huge pop, drapes the arm over Mankind,

but Triple Ah breaks it up at two. Big Show comes in headbuts Triple H and Rock with his size twenty eight head. As Stevens says, clotheslines came out of the ring, slams Bulldog clears the ring, Big Show shines spot here and then he goozles Mankind scores with a choke slam. That's a low. Jr. Says is fullys up mid flight cover one too, but no. Jimmy Corderis is dragged out of the ring by his own WWF officiating colleagues, like they just made their lives a living right to get back at

Jim Carderis. They screw Big Show for some reason out of the DOGBF title and they drop Cordoras and stomp the hell out of them. Oh man, there's a big pop for the referee swarming on Cordera's watch for my Keyota. Yeah, he's the one loving it, and he's he's laying very stiff for killing killing. Cordera's here. Now, this is chaos and it's holding the main event up, and it's there's no referee. We need somebody to correct course here. We need somebody to stop them for we need someone to enforce

the law. Steve Austin do he fucking leaves the commentary table and starts beating the ship out of all the refer instead of just providing the backup officiating is especially enforce we're supposed to do. He just fucking goes the town and all these referees punches, punches, happener hapner bums, Timmy White gets a fucking right hand. It's absolutely ala, It's amazing. It's so Steve Austin ated

to era. Yeah, so you know, back end rockets a hard DDT on Triple Age gets the cover, but there's no one account Austin's in one two No Triple Ah kicks out and the crowd goes nuts. They thought that was the finish yep and and Austin says, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, this is really hot. This is like, it's a great scene at this point. Oh, it's great. It's you know, it's one of those things that that I was, I was iffy

about. But then once it turned into this chaos, it actually picked up steam and and you know when every guy was was really it just became this this this this this chaos. They just this this rumble. You know, it was great. It's great. Rock Whip It's a solid great you know,

classic attitude brawl. Rock whips triple A chin, it's reverse triple h. It's a high knee stops Rocky in the corner, Rocky chance breakout whip, rock pulls him in rock Bottom on triple ah in the center of the ring, and uh, rock Bottom to be rock It takes the elbow pad off. Yeah. Absolutely, scores with the People's Hell Though cover. It was the day, this was the time when he was doing both. He would do the rock Bottom. Yeah. Yeah, the Spinebuster wasn't the set

up yet, not yet. It was like you know, and it wasn't it wasn't separated as much. You know, when it was rock bottom. Then he'd walk behind do the thing. You know. Now you know it's either the rock bottom or the People's elbow. That's fascinating. I don't remember that. It makes sense is the rock bottom will keep you a mobile, and it makes more sense that the people's elbow can beat you after you're taking

a rock bottom. It doesn't make sense that it beats you. Well, it's not as cool that the way he does the spinebuster and then just fucking leaps up. That's cool. Yeah, I agree, you know, it's just a good looking thing. So elbow pat Off scores with the People's elbow cover on Triple H one two but no big show drags Steve Austin, who's counting out of the ring, snatches him by the throat. Bulldog then cracks the rock with the steel chair in the ring tri plates with the pedigree on

the rock. Austin takes the chair away from British Bulldog and Apple. I don't know who Bulldog is going to go after at that point. I don't know if he's going after Triple H or rock right, but Austin comes in and he fucking nails Oh holy shit, these guys were crowning each other back then relentless Relentless. We mentioned the night after SummerSlam, a Triple h wins

title on Raw. He attacks Rock with the chair and then Austin. If you go and watch the WB's uploaded clip of this night on YouTube, they freeze frame the moment that Triple Ah's chair shot is about to strike the Rock because they don't want to show it. I showed real chair shots to the head. Wow, that's funny, But here it is Bulldog takes the big chair shot from Austin. But what this does is allow Triple h Uh to hit the pedigree on Do you understand that? You know? I get that

you don't want to do that now, but it's in the past. It's before you mena this dictation who cares like? I agree, can't change what happened in the past. I totally agree. I mean, there's gotta be some thought that, you know, we don't want to appear to be promoting it by resurfacing it. But I don't know. Now who's Austin drops down? He has to count the pin? Who does trip? Is it rock?

Rock? Yeah? Pins? Rock? Okay, yep, Rock does the fucking honors for off a pedigree for Triple H. Yep, because Rock had been cracked over that with a chair by the Bulldog, so he's already softly up and there it is, and in Austin does the SummerSlam ninety seven like reluctant count. Yeah, totally reluctant count, you know, but does the right thing. At least he didn't fucking nail Rock with the chair.

Then we'd have a problem, I know. And with that, in twenty minutes and twenty eight eventful seconds, Triple H defeats the Big Show, the British Bulldog, Cane Mankind and the Rock and the first ever six pack Challenge match to become WWF Champion, Triple H's first pay per view title win. And the air absolutely comes out of the crowd. Oh yes, is they really thought Rock? They thought they avoid the Triple H era. Now Nope, Triple H is here to stay. That is the message of the show.

Austin, with a belt of Triple H, gets to his feet, He hands him the title, tries to lift his arm, but Triple H statches it away. He lifts the belt in Austin's face like how about this? What do you think about this? And you know, what that means. Yes, Stunner, stunner, big pop. Austin's music plays beers. The days when pay per views ended with stunners no matter what, absolutely those

are the days. You know then they you know what. They started building this feud back in the April edition of w W magazine, the Triple H Ship. Will it? Will it take a degenerate to tame the Rattlesnake? Oh my god. Yeah, they were good about that. That would just

be the magic of the magazine. They would make matches before the promotion was even thinking about it, yep, yep, kind of test what it would feel like, and you know they would they would entertain the idea that a guy who didn't seem to be on the champions level might one day be right exactly when the time came, he kind of felt like prepared for it, a bit like you'd considered it before, just just not Triple H. So

the beers are flowing. Austin has dropped the new WWF champion Triple H in the center of the ring, and Jarr says, you got to believe somewhere sometime Steve Austin and Triple H are going to go at it. Yeah, they're going to get it on again. Nobody's get the copyright WWF dot com on the screen, and JR. Finishes the broadcast saying Triple H is the champion, but for how long? Well, oh, probably the rest of his natural life. You damn right, We've been forgiven nineteen ninety nine.

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