Ep. 386: Spring 2024 Mailbag

It's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and carn s e O and JP Sorrow He's a lapsed fan in all my years and wrist plan you never seen anything. And it's the laps fan man if I the one in the ring, forget about Osada, be the real king of swing with the bell goes egg and the kick like me soon in the corner with its lash like stack. Even Jerry King can take off the crowd nodded in his head like his

lee. Low Brown would just get low down the goat even high up flipp you on your head, but you know couldrivel spit Monu and Dragon spits fire if you more shot than in age retire dropping more truth than the con of sniper. Bless you with a coconut, Roddy Piper checking JP he like Jay d drop the cupcakes and gold and the brain. Bob means the best podcast Frost start to close, flop you all benefit. It's a classic a pose. It was WrestleMania XL, but it was also TLF XL. Was it

not almost to TLF Triple XL in many ways? And we thought what better way to come off the high of TLF taking the stage and ripping Philadelphia a new asshole on WrestleMania forty weekend, than to open up the mail bag to kick back and chill with our favorite people, boss, the members of the Lapsed Fan Solar SS. I think that's very appropriate. I mean, they are nearer and dearer to our hearts than ever before after Philly, totally,

no question. I mean, just postgame thoughts if you could. I mean, number one, it's a it's a wild ride just to see as many people show up as did for the live show, but then to have everybody else like show up for all these other things and and to uh, you know, just to see people at WrestleMania who weren't at the show. You know, that's the wild thing. To see people at at at at at con Con who weren't at the show. That's where it gets really trippy.

If you ask con by the way, that's a good one that it is. They they came for the wrestling, they stayed for the reality. Damn fucking straight, they did. And we said what had to be said. Yes, and those in the room know exactly what we're talking about. It's been a long time since we've heard unalloyed lapsed, Vince, and for good

reason. Yes, I think now people realize why, and I think people realize as well that when the co chairmen take the stage for a live experience, it's it's gonna feel like the old days where all you have are your memories. Yes, you know, you can't you can't count on being able to pull up exactly you know what was said, but you can count on remembering what it felt like to experience it, which is all we have when we go on the fucking ground anyway, That's damn right. And it was

just it was wild. It was an absolutely wild time. It was. It was full of twists and turns. It was so much more like demanding. There was a point in time we're just walking Philly, no clue where we're going. I have ecw A Rena directions on my phone, but they're driving directions and I think it's ten minutes away, and then you point out, hey, those are not the walking directions, it's actually an hour away.

Why is the thing moving so slowly? Why has it been Why has it been nine minutes for like fifteen minutes, been nine minutes away for a half hour. Yeah, that's right. Just from those lows to the absolute highs of people just exploding at the the notion that we're spitting the truth. We were spitting that's part of wrestling any weekend, just tip hat tipped everybody. Absolutely, it was. It was a tremendous experience. I would like to note too that I still have a somewhat swollen uvula. Oh do you

really that that that is gone down? Nope? Nope. Uh, but my dad did talk to doctor Tom Fazzio. Oh Jesus, now we're talking about real advice, right, all right, we're talking big time here, and he, you know, he said that it could take several days before it goes down fully. Wow. But yeah, all week, all week. I had it all week. It was like it was ridiculous. It

was absolutely ridiculous, Like what the fuck? The absolutely I thought you could never have to experience the feeling of waking up on show morning on a live spoken word stage show and you know, not being able to talk. Yeah, is that a first for you? I mean, have you ever had that on a stage show or No, never had it on on on the day of a show. Literally, its only happened one Thanksgiving is when it happened where I couldn't you know, I couldn't speak, and I just I

didn't even know what it was the time. I just was like, there's this fucking thing my throat that is preventing me from speaking. I'm choking on it at times, and you know, I was horrified that first time I had it. But now now I get it. Now it happens. Now it's real, So now it's a risk fact, yes exactly. A hearty shout out to Punchline Philly, to Rake Amster, all of our stand up comic friends. Thanks to Postal for his surprise appearance wrapping the t theme song

live on stage. Could have been a better sport about it. Unbelievable stuff. And shout out to Garage Beer for lacing all attendees with the first round on the house. Love it, It's feeling good, It's feeling TLF. That's appropriate. Oh yeah, and long may it continue. We've only just begun here, of course, in our ten year celebrations, and then much more to come from the wonderful members of the Solar System who are working in

all manner of initiatives to make it real and make you feel it. And of course the mailbox remains wide open for your TLFX testimonials, which we've been posting as they've been coming in and as the quality screener determines. Yep. So you know, grab your audio recorder, grab your phone and record an audio messages you've been hearing drop regularly on the feed and tell us why it

is. If you were to explain to a stranger that tlf has been around for ten years and what it means to you and why it's the cast that just you know, you just can't shake and look, we cast. We don't know anything else. Yep. That's what we offer to you. It's either enough or it isn't. Yep. But we do very much appreciate folks letting us know where we fit into their routines, where we fit into their

lives, and how it can be better. It's a remarkable thing to see it made manifest with so many friendly faces and you know, spouses and significant others and sisters. You know, that's a wild thing too. To come out of doing a show like that and to have the support of women in the crowd was quite a feeling. Yes we I mean they could be forgiven and for right rolling their eyes. I'm sure many dip, but they dipped before we did the sort of show meet and greet. I would imagine there

weren't as many, just one one. I think, just one guy. Well, I mean there's there's our our regular couple, but then there's the there was a one. I'm sorry, I can't forget it. I can't remember his name, but the guy with the sister who was there, who, yeah, you know she was. That was a riot. That's wonderful stuff. Yeah, so many, so many faces and big shout outs to uh to Dicky from Australia who came away with the Terry Funk branding iron Wow,

which we were proud to give away. And I know he was jumping in the bit to get his hands on. Just it's it's all good, it's all it's all positivity, it's all right. And you know what, and you know what, Brandon from New Jersey showed up. Oh my goodness, he was there. The legend he was there. He was there. It didn't you know. He he nutted up. I saw him. We shook hands, he tapped up. Yeah, he was in the fray. He was not like, you know, hanging on the periphery trying to get

noticed. No, but I was, I was. I had my doubts because I'd heard the day before that he dipped out of doing something else for a so called wedding. So I was like, well, you know, maybe I'm not I'm not buying it yet in person, in person in Philly. So that's big thanks to the aforementioned Dicky as well. Yes, indeed, so that's that's huge props there. Yeah, I mean you got to think about it, pass. I mean, as long as the legend of Brandon from New Jersey has been built up in your head, you got to

realize. I mean, I've been talking to the guy you know, even years longer that right exactly, and never met him before. I never met him before, No, not in person, no, wow. So a lot of special moments like that. So thanks to everybody who made it possible and who made it worth it. We're here to crack up in the mail bag, of course, and it's as good a time as any as I

think a lot of the missives will be sharing with you this week. Attests to to go over to patreon dot com slash the lapsed fan, to put your pride to the side and to realize that you know the only reason to wake up in the morning is to do something that people find enough value and that they'll pay for it. Absolutely, and you got to keep working til you find that thing. We found it. Yep, not a problem. Not a problem. No, no, not at all. And there's so

much in it for you. And if you join now and join the executive producer and above here, it's a very very special time, is it not under it's a very special time. We are currently on our our Carneies are Forever journey with our James Bond deep dive into the franchise into uh you know how it's impacted. Why is it still around, you know to this day where we're you know, we're we we we may I believe we. I don't know if it's been officially announced, but we may have a new James

Bond, uh, you know, taking over the reins and stuff. So it's really it's a it's an amazing franchise that probably the the longest, the longest continuous franchise, yes, I would say, in the in the history of the film business. And uh, it's loaded loaded with carnies. Oh my goodness, what a fucking unbelieving exploration of the legacy of Peter my Va on Hall of Fame Weekend where my Va was inducted. No less, Rock and his family were so celebrated. We you know, the serendipity came through

and we did like the definitive dive I to Go. We did like a Peter my Va Straight to Your Left tribute show on the main feed. We sound pretty much like that episode of the Bond series. I would, I would hope. So that's my goal. That's my goal. Especially when you have guys that only have one or two major appearances. It's like, you know, we don't. We don't have much time with these guys in theme. Otball tremendous to look at his wrestling job whatever you want, Oh he

is an oddball. After all, he was a wrestler. So, oh my god, you can tell how much I'm retaining here. I know a little little bits and pieces. It's a lot of information. You know, we we trace. I'm going to call odd job. It's pretty bad that It's not a good sign. Hey, the last Saffery either trying to put together at Chushio Needa versus Dory Funk Junior at Kawaisashi Stadium on Twitter. I

mean, come on is that hashtag lapsed funk? I let the guy fucking rest Dory is getting blown up. Well, I figure it might as well give it one more go. You know, Terry used to do it all the time. I might as well, And I figured it made Terry immortal. I don't want to die. I made it, made Terry immortal. I don't want to I don't think that's not what we meant. I don't think I want to die. I haven't checked lately if that's what I want

to do or if that's what I should do. I do know that that I am a fan of professional wrestling, and I like to see fans go round and round, found and wrap. I'll just say this. I'm on the sentiments Laptovin shared on stage in Philly. I didn't know that anyone was suffering as a result of my behavior, But if presented with evidence that I did know, I am very willing to change my mind about what I knew.

What a world we're in now with you know, the Triple H regime and the Triple H era and Cody winning and you know, you know something I didn't even know until we know because we were we were you know, you had your ticket problems on day two. I didn't even realize that Stephanie

came out for that for an intro. I really didn't either. I actually went back and watched the show on the cock get a sense because a lot of people were saying that our live call was like, especially on that night one main event, tag match with The Rock, was kind of off based on the energy we were feel in our section versus how it came across the television. Having watched it, I agree, I get it. The crowd brawling is not as much of a oh it's hard, Well, it's hard.

You know, you can't how do you? I mean, I remember, I remember, you know the WrestleMania in in in New Jersey that the last one went to where it was like everybody was there were two things, two matches that brawled in the crowd though, and it was like, it's

hard to really enjoy that when you can't see close up. I mean, I would say, you know, those matches are definitely TV oriented, and you're so looking forward to seeing the Rock and what he has showcased in center rain right right, and then when he ducks like that, ducks out of out of view, it's kind of like, okay, like this is you know, this is them trying to elongate the match because he doesn't have much more to produce in the ring. He went on to do and well,

we'll get to a lot of the feedback that arrived approximate to WrestleMania. We're going much further back than that, of course, because the last time we hit you with the mailback episode has been quite a while. Not quite a while, but a season has passed, so yeah, we've still got stuff

lapsed funk relevant to go through. But suffice to say, coming off the thing, it's like and watching it on television as well, that was that was a tremendous piece of business, the way they put together that Cody Roman main event with all the run ins and everything. Yes, but I can't help but feel a little bit of sympathy towards the point of view that like, really, you couldn't have just done Cody versus Roman, Like what was

all that about? And it was epic, It was awesome. The crowd went nuts, and people are never going to forget those run ins from seeing a rock Undertaker, et cetera seth rollins. That that one's a little more forgettable. But yeah, you know, these are all triggers worth pulling. And I guess they had Austin and Q and then it, you know, they couldn't put the deal together, so it was Undertaker instead. I mean it is you know, I get it. I don't mind. I mean

I think it could have been done better. I think had been done a little more. Uh, I don't know. It was to me it felt very segmented, yes, where it could have felt more like the calvarys Ave. Yeah, you know that would have been they could have it could have been you know, I never I'll tell you what when when when? Uh

was it Solo who came out? No, No, it was who came out first, Jimmy j So. So when Jimmy Usso came out that I didn't feel like Roman was at a point where he needed to be saved, you know, And that to me was kind of it like I I didn't I was like, okay, oh, I guess it's going to happen now.

But I wasn't there yet where I was like, to me, as a fan, I should have I would have hoped that they would have gotten to the point in a match where I would have forgotten that to expect Runnings by the Bloodline, where I'm so involved in the match that I am like I would have I should have been at a moment where I really thought Cody was gonna win it on his own, you know, like I should have been at that moment, but it never happened. And that happened when Solo

came in and helped with the super Spear. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well in the opposite way, I felt that way, right because Cody was in trouble, right, but I never felt like Roman was like like oh shit, like we could have had it right there. You know. They clearly structured it for the pop of each entrance song, and that's you know, which I'm not pharo criticizing it, but I am sort of thinking, like, wow, like they really couldn't have just had Cody beat Roman in a

clean match. They really had to do all this because it's eventually people caught on to this is where they were going with the Bloodline rules. And then once once fan expectations get there and you lead people to expect this kind of

thing, you do kind of have to deliber it. You don't have to, but I think that's what's going to be different in the Triple A regime versus the Vince regime is if the fans kind of you know, start to detect something and start to demand it and start to count on it psychologically, He's going to give it to him. Yeah, even if even if it isn't necessarily in keeping with where he sees things going long term. And I

think that, you know, that could have some drawbacks. We'll see, but for the most part, you know, if you've got people going nuts and a sold out building, it's you can't argue with that. No, I'm sort of like, well, then what is ever going to be enough if the way they build up Cody Robin isn't enough to just have it clean one on one like everything's so it's like they kind of have to though.

It's like, remember it's a rematch. It's not even the first time they ever they ever wrestled, So it's like we had that pretty much until the end when Solo came in and and and waffled Cody last year. So it's like, I don't know, I I'm I'm fine with it. I I will say this, I think the one thing that really that really uh kind

of I thought about afterwards. Is I forget who wrote about it. I think it was on on On on Patreon, who says, someone said, you're gonna tell me that these guys are just kind of waiting back there for this to all kind of go down. That's what I mean. Yeah, they structured that. That would have been It would have been more interesting. I think it would have been. I mean, granted kind of gives it away, but it would have been nice to maybe know that these guys were

in town at least, like maybe Sena made an appearance. You didn't have to be at WrestleMania per se, but we could have known that he was there. I don't take us a little bit different because he's undertaker, and you know he's supposed to be. I don't get if you knew they were there, what does that solve? Well, if I knew that John Cena was there, if I saw that John Cena was there WrestleMania weekend, I would know that he's there and that he's probably in the back watching and wondering

what's going on. It's too much for you, is the thought that he would fly out secretly just in case he was needed, right exactly, Yeah, interesting, exactly I kind of you know, they were saying this, and they didn't drive it home as hard as I would have expected. But the message of the Seth you know, a Cody alliance was that we need to save WWE from the iron grip of the Bloodline and like it's in it's in way more than just our personal interests to see to it that the bloodline

doesn't just totally run this company and call all the shots. And so the idea was that I think that veterans of the past would also see the wisdom in that and think, you know, we can't have a situation where Roman just consolidates so much power that he never gets knocked off the throne and no one ever you know what I mean. But they didn't really tell that story. It was just right just ended up being pops for the entrance, because that could have been the thing too. I mean, maybe you don't even

show them that they're there. Maybe you just like you could have had you know, how come you they didn't go and get you know, legends like Sena Undertaker or whomever doing promos like even just like doing doing like Yeah, that's that was what I was saying. They they opted for the version of this where the entrance gets the massive pop instead of the version where they still

could have gone the massive pop it. You know, if you had, if you had enough legends the surprise just said the surprise, it would have been a massive pop. I mean the surprise like they This regime is clearly

marks for entrance music playing when no one expects to be there. But you still could have done that if you over over the weeks leading up to WrestleMania, like every week you had two or three legends, like cutting a video from home, like saying you know what I I you know, I got to agree like Cody that you know this, or even disagreeing too, like you could have guys disagreeing and how co who that had been of? Like you know, mckpholis says, well, you know, I'm kind of down

with the the uh, the bloodline. They're fine by me. You know, interesting, interesting have offun seek a fucking do something. You've seen Sammy out there too, I mean he came out for the Cody celebration, but he had more story than anybody in terms of breaking the Bloodlin's iron grip, right exactly like that could have been. That would have been a great thing

too to kind of see him come out so interesting. Interesting, interesting that one of the last things we saw was really the last grand entrance of WrestleMania forty, was Triple H walking down the Red. Of course, I I don't know if I'm ready for this. I don't think I realized the uh, the implications of him having the book in terms of, like, we always have to see him as a creator. Oh yeah, he's always judging his way into the frame. It's getting it's gonna get old real quick.

Instead of erased to care about the guys winning and losing matches, not the director, Like, nope, you care about the booker, the the writer, the chief creative content explorer as far as I know, and I didn't pay very close attention. Remember they promoted that documentary during the show about how they put this whole thing together and how they pivoted hasn't aired yet. Something in that, something in there. The Rock doesn't like about the narrative.

We wo who wha whoa whoa whoa whoa WOA turn us down right, you know what I mean? Oh god, I love it. They let the narrative battles begin to Yeah, really really, Dwayne and Paul is. It is a new era, but it's the Dwayne era. Let's not forget that. Okay, well, yeah, it's the Paul like running doing most of the busy work until Dwayne decides like, actually, actually I'm gonna take credit

for this one. This Wayne's Vince McMahon totally. He could just dig put in and just totally reshape all the creative based on what would make him feel like he's achieved something that's never been done before. That's that's that's the way to talk to Rock Ust to have the thing, talk to Evince. That's

how you talked to Rock like this is here's here's the case. Here are the four PowerPoint slides of how what you're about to do is never been done better or bigger, And that's that's the thing, and we'll never be done again. Yeah of course, right, let's shut that down too. Well, a fascinating weekend and thanks to social Semian. Thanks. I need to give a big shout out to Dave and Todd Martin too for massive oh fuck yes, logistical assistance. I mean to get out of that fucking place after

those shows. Without them, I don't know how we would have done it. We would still be walking down out free or I'd still be at least passed out someplace. Yeah, you have the chance to take a down like I was. So you know, after every night, I'm like I was done. I was so fucking done, And I was like, you know, I always feel like I'm being I was. They're very very gracious because I feel like it's rude to just kind of fall asleep, but I couldn't

help it. I was just so done. Well, it's better than fall asleep during the show, which we saw for the New Japan one. Yeah, they got to chuckle out of that story about it. Did you tell them? Man, that's really funny. Think, Oh my god, that's hilarious. Ask you a question, boss, Yes, was it cold enough in those seats? I mean Financial Field. That's the only reason why didnt fall asleep because I couldn't. I was it was freezing like it's inappropriate,

honestly, and it should be borderline April, it really was. I mean, just to have just what the fuck is going on in Philadelphia where the wind is that cold? Well, your your sky high in and open your air stadium too. I don't remember being that cold in fucking New Jersey. My god, I wore short New Jersey. That was a beautiful week that

show. Yeah, but still like I guess yeah. Last year was our firstwo night Wrestlelingia went it, but because the two nighter hurts a little more in terms of the like, oh god, and I didn't want even want to go. I was like that second night fucking wake me up. I was out fucking Benadryl knocking me out, so I can fucking speak Jesus Christ. That's this is legendary. It was all legendary, but we fucking can't win. We move forward, and we turn the aperture, We turn the

spotlight where belongs on the solar system. Because as big as fans as you are of us, we're bigger fans of you, and that is that continues to be. We love all of our children, yes, okay, and that continues to be reinforced every single time. So we dip into the mailbag and we look to uh Ronaldi, who writes, I've learned this is back in the lapsed Funk days that Dory Funk Junior son is a doctor that goes by Dink Funk the third Doctor Dink Funk, I am doctor Dink Funk.

The third I do. I appreciate that statement. I do go by doctor Dink. Sometimes I go by doctor Funk some guy. Sometimes I go by doctor Dunk. Sometimes I go by doctor Fink. It doesn't really matter which way goes. I'm really not a doctor legally speaking, and I do find my practice is to be very dangerous in terms of medical conditioning. I believe he said, and I'm correct me if I'm wrong in me simply saying his

son's name is Dan Funk. I believe he says in response, I appreciate that statement, the statement being at he has son and doctor dan Funk. The fact I appreciate that statement. I didn't say good, I didn't say you're wonderful. It is said nothing that we could be appreciated. I stated a fact. And speaking of stating facts, by the way, before we get too far off Patreon, we were fucking rocking on behalf of paying customers on. Yeah, I'm really proud of the ship we pulled off on the

ground out there. You know, when when we get on the ground together like that, we just can't help. But doing a bit of an audio diary for the patrons, and and oftentimes uploading, weird uploading, weird ass ship in weird going to damn straight paying admission to get into an old lady Stamp convention so we can walk around and try to observe the architecture. And the woman looking at you, you guys know this is a stamp collection reference, right, and she's like, you know that, we don't. You

know, it's not you know, it's it's stamps. It's not fun. And I gave some off. I'm still like crams when I think about it. Some awful mealy mouthful. Actually, I don't know if you guys know, but wrestleman, he's in town. They shoot TV in this building and so you know, and she's looking at me like, okay, oh this is stamps, right, they call the security. Do they shoot? Did

they shoot stamps in the building as well? Guess what we're doing. I mean they take television in there for like, you know, fifteen years, and there's nothing. They have a whole like mural on the front entrance to ag Hal of all the stuff that you know from the agricultural Fair over the years, a huge montage photos and clippings. Nothing about that. I don't know. They want to forget about it. They want to not acknowledge that

it exists. Well, we're able to go to a restaurant that all the wrestlers used to go to after doing the tapings called Ringers Roots, and interviewed the proprietor there, Amaron don And you got to check that out on Patreon.

That was a trip to be a wild that room of his restaurant where he's got all the autographed Carney pictures up and some real cool keepsakes, and just the he's one of those guys, you know, he'll just like you talk to him for twenty minutes and he'll name thirty five people that he's met, you know, and that's he just goes and goes and goes and goes. Oh yeah, one time, Arnold Scolland was in here, yep, yep here, So I had nothing to do with him, but he was

in here, I hear. And then he introduces us to Jerry Sagg's mom and sister. What the fuck is going on? What is this? What is this lie life? Oh Jesus Christ. And of course we brought cash for Carnei's to the table. Don't ever say we don't put your Patreon dollar back into the show. Uh, you greased our palms so we could grease theirs and get time with the likes of Ahmed Johnson and Earl Hebner, who I got to ask the burning Montreal question to from Jeohn Michael's book, longtime

fan will know what I'm talking about. We talked to Robert Gibson from The Rock and Roller, Robert Gibson insisting that the the if the Crockett name is would be legendary at Greensboro, call Sam, which we know it is not right, Yes, that was you know, helpfuls realize you know, because because we have this shared vocabulary over ten years on this show, and because we have these things that only lapsed fan listeners would these things come to mind

when you say a wrestler's name because of our history. Right, We've done jokes, we've done bits, we've done things. You've gone as you're referenced into the Greensboro Coliseum and asked if anybody knows who Jim Crockett is, and no one knows who the fuck he is in the building, that any wrestling fan of that area would tell you he's like his name echoes like some sort

of giant legend no one knew who the fuck he was. And for us to get five minutes with Robert Gibson which turned into fifteen once it got started. Of course, of course, always the way, only for us, uniquely for us, Is it worth it to have that little bit of time because we can set up stuff from the show. Yes, we can ask Kevin Sullivan about shoveling snow and it's already worth it. Yes, exactly.

We can ask on Met Johnson about whether he takes it personally that the Rock called himself the People's champion, or what he actually said when he would get intense the toy Fu's toy and get confirmation what he was saying. For anybody else, five minutes of these guys at a Restaican is not worth it for us, It's worth twenty times. And that he's eating a fucking Jimmy Dean, you know, a sausage, egg and cheese breakfast sandwich. The powers

of observation by the Boss there on full display. Cash for Carney's Baby coming to a town near you. You're better watch that next convention, oh my god, because we'll be asking just incredible about you know, how they thought it was funny that he was Portuguese. Just incredible, man, you talk about a reality chat oohs him to hope he thrives. But I know that's all I can think about all weekend when people kept out about ECW Nostalgiams Philly,

Yep, how about that? What do you think about the downfall of just incredible? And maybe if you keep donating to the cause, Solar System members, maybe one day we'll be able to afford saboos price Because you want to ask him about you want to ask about Black Narcissus and talking about that, who was gonna ask him about black narcissts. It's like so telling you you know your I know your uncle. You know you got the name Saboo

from the actor Saboo. Now, now what was his favorite man? And I know it's like, oh, it was the the Thief of bag Dad or whatever the fuck? Okay, did he ever watch Black Narcissus? Did you ever watch that one about the nuns? Amazing and the sexual tension with the nuns? Oh, but there's a white narcissist right here, Lex Luger and his reel chair, which I was weird aot it should be a pro I didn't know, but maybe next time. And Jim Duggan, if you

don't know, very rarely he does podcast. That's right, We're told, that's right. Big loss there, Yeah for him. Tough guy. All right, why don't you go ahead and share this missive from Steve Funker My Tail of Lapsom Greeting's CoA Chairs. My Tail of Lapsom is one as old as time. I'll describe myself as a as Thrice. Lapsed first time, beginning in nine ninety three when I started getting hair on my crotch and the product was pissed poor wait your crotch product or at the customers. Okay.

Then back in the groove around the time of Bad Blood, which took place in my home base of Saint Louis. Around then I became a rabbit fan, found ECW and still hold memories from ninety seven through two thousand and two or so, very dear. I lapsed again in two thousand and two as things weren't quite the same without ECW around, plus I finally started giving regular,

plus I started getting regular pussy. I clawed my way back around for one nice stand and the subsequent ECW reboot, but found the WWECW was not for me, unsurprisingly, and lapsed again. I'm lapsed to this day, though I still watch the pl s and stay relatively current with the goings on so goings on, so maybe not so much. I've never really lapsed in terms of the nostalgia. I stumble on something to Wrestle early on, and was a loyal listener to the Conrad Cast and still am to some degree.

But since Bruce has to tow the company line and Jr. Only gets excited about Alpha males and barbecue sauce, I found myself wanting more. I kept reading about this thing called the lapsed fan. Hey that's me, I thought to myself. But who are these guys and why the fuck do I want to listen to them talk about Survivors Series eighty eight or seven hours. As you know by now, I didn't want to listen to anything I fucking needed

to on that topic. Can we just shout the following from the fucking rooftops. The podcast is seven hours, because that's how long it fucking takes.

They laugh at their own jokes because they're fucking funny. Now that's now, that that's out of the way, the truth is I don't have all that much time to listen to podcasts these days, I'm a single father with shared custody of two young children brother, I have a demanding job that I can rarely cast during, and I no longer commute to the office, so the time that time is gone, I still have over three hundred episodes in my backlock. Oh yeah, hear this, like after we're all dead and who

knows if I ever will get to them. For two years, I have used this as a poor excuse for not tithing, and I am so very ashamed of being such a bitch because my need is not about the volume of content TLF provides. My need is deeper than that. It's because I am depressed because I miss my kids. It's because if I am depressed, oh oh, it's because if oh sorry, It's because if I am depressed, thank you, uh, I depressed about because I miss my kids or have

had a rough day at work, TLF can turn me around. It's because if I'm busy on a weekend with one of the multitude of house jaws or repairs, I have TLF in my ears and deep up my ass to get me through it with a fucking smile. What it all boils down to is that I if I was about this podcast, it would affect me emotionally. As Vince would say, you put smiles on faces. It's not the only podcast I listened to, but it's the only one that fucking matter. I

devoured the Lamentable Tragedy ahead of the Iron Claws release. I can't wait to learn more about the Funks than I ever thought I needed to know. The Teenage Journey was a fucking phenomenon, and I gobbled it up despite my having never watched more than five minutes of TNA in my life. Welcome TNA, by the way. I know, all of a sudden TNA was really hot. And why all of a sudden people talking about TNA again? They brought the name back. It seemed like their pay per views were doing relatively well

all of a sudden, It's like, what changed? Oh, I don't know, I don't know what it could have been last year? Will hold him? TNA Wichill Holgan makes a come back there too, why's that happen? I am actually really bummed that he didn't come out to stop Roman from beating his rain. I mean, that would have been better than than than undertaking it was the lamest final. Yeah, you know what the gong wasn't

we gotta pop and even got a pop from me. I will admit that evidence saying because it's like, you know, but the glass shattering or real American playing would have been so much fucking and it makes sense like in the dorm room when he attacked Rock and Pine two. Yes, exactly exactly. I want you to know, by the way, and I don't appreciate this. I've been walking around, you know, in my own head since we since we went to Philly doing the Roman Reign song. But I mean everywhere.

I don't know why it's in my head. Hold on, I get it now, I gotta. I gotta ask you to do it. I'm just saying I have to now, now I have to. I mean it's like, you know, Roam and he's like standing on the apron looking at the ceil. Yeah, he knows the head of the here. He is the head of the head of the tabla, the head of the tableau.

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That's my wrestlemanium. There it is right there. You want to talk about setting anyway, continue with Steve better than sucking, you know Roman Empire, that old one. Yes, it's true, it is better. But that's a good yes one that I would make my make teal left my first and only Patreon purchase. Woof Boss do the thing hit takes this music one more time for I don't have it. I don't have that loaded up I would have, but it was this gem I have transcribed below that truly puts

me over the edge. Lapscribes feel free to use this as you please Episode three twenty four Bash to be ninety five for the universe. I direct you to timestamp two fifty two, and if you have the time, I would humbly ask Jack to read this back as only he can, and I quote as j JP comes like a fucking infernal to the ring to do battle with Rick Flair, holding as Jack so aptly indicates, a fistful of slim juice in his hand. Are you gonna do You're gonna do? Okay, you're

gonna do it? Good for everybody, everyone needing a snack? Telling you right now, I got no chips, I got nothing else, but I do have some little slivers of meat. Here we go handing out the sweaty meat here at Bash at the beach, sweaty sticks of beef cured beef. You know what I mean. Here we go, smoky, sweaty cured beef. Uh huh? You like it? I like it. I'm feeling that shit. Everybody wants a piece of the slim Gym slim jims Bash at the beach. Oh yeah, fucking feel it sticking up your ax fan. Uh

huh, I'm digging it. I like it. I like it. Everyone wants a slim gym, Rick Flair, Do you want a slim jym. Here we are, you and I getting it on one on one, savage actual, go for it, swim gym for everybody. Everybody need telling you right now, I got no chips, I got nothing else, but I do have some little slippers of meat. Here we go, hain't and out the sweaty meat here at bash at the beach, sweaty sticks of beef cured beef. You know what I mean? Here we go, smoky, sweaty

cured beef. Uh huh. I like it. I like it. I'm feeling that shit. Everybody wants a piece of the slim gym. Slim Jim's bashit the beach. Oh yeah, fucking feel it stickingn berrass fans. Uh huh. I'm bigger than I like it. I like it. Everybody wants a slim gym, rick Fire, Do you want a slim gym? Here? You are? You and I getting it on one one. I don't many disrespect, not trying to get in front of you, but here I

go. I got an extra pair of slim jeons. You want one, You and your lady in the back can go back Nile on a slim gym after the match. Not trying to force anything on yell right before we get it done. But I just won't offer you something saying here as a moment to break kay fabite for the fans, You and me sharing a gym. A slim gym won't two three I'm digging it. Here we go, get it on flair. I'm looking at you right in now, white eye, man, the man. What do you want? What do you want?

What are we doing? Where are we gonna go from here? What's the next STEPA? I'm looking at the kingdom of the match. It's filled with slim gems. You know what I mean? Hey, we're fucking I just say it. I don't know it out looking out of the window. Slim gym. You could chain of the gems. I get a you got a chain of you got a chain of gyms. I got a chain of slim gems. Weren't all the same thing? Good, keep good. One is

about exercise and the other one is about exercising. You're right to eat sweetest, sweaty, smoked, cured and meat. It's sweaty. You're never gonna think of slim Jim is the same again, if you think of them as sweaty, just slightly damp. You know I'm doing you right now. These slim gyms have been out in the sun a long time. Give us the only reason why they're a little damp aut right, They're not want you know, I'm not saying they're bad they got them, purchase them today, all

right, expires in two weeks. We got two weeks to eat these. But they've been outside. There's no place for us to go inside right now, so they might be a little sweaty. I'm a little bit of that, you know, if you will, condensation, you know, you know what I'm talking about. All right, Oh now, I don't mean any disrespect, not trying to pull anything over on you, on you fans, on your announcers, on anybody, on everybody who's snacking on a slim gym

right now. Now, what I'm trying to do, I'm here. I'm here being honest. I'm telling you the way that it is. The macho main Randy Savage got these sl gyms this morning at the hotel. Here they are right now, Uh huh. They might be a little bit sweaty. You know, they've been out in the sun for a little while. You know, it's a hot day here on Huntington Beach. What are you gonna do with that slim jet You're gonna eat it good, They're gonna you're gonna

take it. You're gonna snap into it. I don't know that's up to you right not my place to tell you what to do. You are your own people out there. What I am suggesting is that not you. That you all understand. Right now, slim gym is presenting Bash at the Beach. Bash at the Beach, the number I want to show, the summer biggest party, the place where you're gonna take the meat. You're gonna eat

the meat, You're gonna shove it up your ass. You're gonna take it in your hands like I I got mice Jim, and I'm gonna shoot it off to FA. I mean, talk about a tour to fours, talk about tlf AX right, Holy shit, holy shit. I think my favorite is when he says, I'm telling you the way that it is, macho man, Randy Savage got these sling drids this morning at the hotel. That's the way that it is. I don't know you want Yeah, it makes

sense to me. How does Steve conclude now if that isn't worth my three sixteen every month and nothing is also, Come on, people don't be like me. He's thirty eight dollars a year. You know what else? I pay thirty eight dollars a year for fucking dishwasher, booster powder, rock salt from my driveway cheese. It's get your wallets out and do what's right. Thank you for making my life just a little bit better every week. Thank

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Terry Funk's the state sal do you know the rest? I kept it here because I'm not sure I know because stands of course from Yeah, but is there an episode where he gets John voyce Leberon that's something. Yeah, yeah, he gets his he get gets his fucking car. It's really he may and if I remember correctly, I don't even think he ended up being John Void John Vote. It think's like some of the random clown named John Void

or something like that. I could be wrong. Maybe that's what they think, or I don't rememb It's been a while since I seeen in the episode, but I do get the reference. Scott Michael Ferry. I really hate to do this to you guys and t all of us in Solar System, but if the Boss really wants another shot at being able to dive deep into legendary Peter Falk, he was once in a movie where Rena Lesnar is Rena Merrow had a role as a female bouncer. That film defeated Zi Corky Romano.

Oh fuck, well, let's put on the list. I don't know that is absolutely, but if Reena is in it, it counts. Yes. DJ. Thank you very much for your pledge. Zach Thinks as always for your votes of confidence over the years. Very much appreciate you having you out there in the solar system. Pal Robert, who writes shadowt to local eighties nineties department stores weekends with Grandma getting strawberry pie at Hes Brothers and Allentown

Pa. Thinking the store was bullshit because it had no hasbros oof us. Some of the days to me digging that my good friend Steven over in Ireland. I really feel Boston. I could spend then afternoon exchanging war stories on dealing with the public and museum atmospheres. Some of his recollections of working at

MSG gave me Vietnamese Vietnam esque flashbacks. Hopefully he never had a member of the public try to pick a fight because they disagree of the historical facts that paint a person, country, or institution they care about in a bad light.

Do you remember that you remember getting pushed back anything he said on the tour, No, not really pushback, more just like, you know, the the worst things were when I'd have a crowd that just didn't you know, they didn't fucking they spoke no English, and so were they all, you know, and so they're just kind of like a curious choice that to

take an English language tour I agree. I agree, but like you know, we I'd go through things and I'd be like and then I'd do one of my one of my jokes and it just be complete utter silence, and I just have to like walk on to the next thing, you know, let alone the wrestling references. Oh, it's it's completely it's it's I mean,

it is so emasculating when that happens. Like you know, when you when you're you know, because you have you have good crowds, you have bad crowds, and it's like, you know nothing, they're never any bad crowds. But it's like there are crowds that just don't know, you know, they don't know what I'm I'm saying. You know, it's it's not their fault, you know, and so it's it's it's it's it's it was

rough. That was that was kind of no real pushback though on stuff, Like I never really got any Everyone was pretty pretty cool that I that I had. Anyway, I mean, they're they're definitely stories. You know, people always have weird stories about about people and stuff, and you know, some some would some would I heard people would, some people would get questioned

further there for the fact, but I never had that issue. Okay, I just dealt with, you know, just people who were just like just you know, staring at me like a fucking idiot, which I was. So they're fair to get they're fair to do so well, speaking of not their fault. One of the more jarring moments of Philly Weekend was at Wrestle Khan and some guy I don't even know from a hole in the wall walking around saying do you know where Gene Snitzky is? That? That was like,

that was alarming. That was very and like and why are you come up to set it in a way where it's like Snitzky is loose, like he's not in his cage. Well, not only that, but also that I should be responsible for it. Yeah, he came up to me like as if it was something that I should be taken care of. No, I don't worry again, right, I don't. I don't work here. You know, Maybe that's the guy Shane Douglas said we had to talk to. Maybe maybe that's it. Maybe that's it because he has a contract.

Maybe this is bad when we do cash for carneies. I remember equally as vividly the stories about no, as well as I do the wonderful things people who gave us the time said yeah, yeah, oh yeah. I mean, you know, it's funny too. I remember, I remember the first the first time we did Starcast too. It's funny how we've kind of evolved from that because at the when we did Starcast, remember uh uh uh Teddy Long wanted money for an interview. He wanted like fifty bucks for it,

and we said no because we weren't doing anything. We're only getting free ones at the time. Yeah, we just you know, it was like, okay, well, if you want to get paid, that's fine, we respect that and we're not going to you. Yeah, I'm not gonna do that. But now it's like, okay, let's see what let's see what

kind of havoc we can cut. I don't know, there was something about that Brett Hart experience where I was like, Okay, oh, totally, well, these guys will do it, and like, yeah, we're the only podcast in the world that that kind of a short, bite sized interaction with can be worth it to our listeners, right because the random ass ship will ask them. So let's fucking go. Yeap Lap lapsed veteran I want to thank you very much for your generous pledge. Welcome in GMB eighty five.

Same to you. Thank you very much for the cake. Rich Molton saw fit recently to bump up his pledge on Patreon, and we thank him very much for that. Same to Brandon m who saw fit to do much the same thing. Welcome into Philip Guessert. Thank you for the pledge, and Cody Hinkel as well. This one from Declan co Chairs. Thank you so much for ten years of entertainment. The show has helped me become secure in my wrestling fandom to the point where I now embrace it. I've lapsed

since two thousand and three and never looked back. After the ben Wah tragedy in two thousand and seven, we hear a lot of that, don't Yes, we do. That was a real demarcation line for a lot of people, you know, and I actually do think that I do fall in that as well. You know, I think that I never really realized it, but I think it makes sense. It goes on to write. My favorite TLFX moment came in the ten year University of the ben Wa Tragedy, Part

one, where Jack says who killed Chris Benoir grab a fucking mirror. Yes, yes, Kat. The cast's ability to meet this tragedy head on and do comprehensive shows is about It is what makes this cast different from all others. Agreed, I've stopped purchasing PBR and Wily jump back in when they do the right thing by the co chair as well, declan, that's kind of you hit that garage instead. Uh yeah, we've got somewhere else to point

to these days. We're growing with somebody else over here much because hey, it makes it only makes sense, right, you know, PBR, you're in that sort of stage of still kind of you're like you're clinging to still being part of the scene, but you're a little old, right, Oh

yeah, you're drinking it. You're in that phase now. Someone put this brilliant interface you someone else talking to It's like PBR is like I'm you know, you drink it when it's the cheap beer in college and it's sort of like an ironic thing, and then later, like twenty years later, when you have money in a job, you drink it to try to relive those days, right, right, sort of, But but garage beers for those who are like now dads and they're in the garage and they don't having time

for that shit exactly, and we doubut people that have been with us through their thirties right trying to avoid, trying to avoid their children and their families totally get it. So I think it's appropriate. I think it's very brand and avoid your families. What did you kids? Now? Garage beer, by the way, not available across the United States. They're they're growing. Philly is one of their oly attack markets. So it's a match made in heaven. But when they come to your area, you gotta let it know

that a TLF feels the love and is interested in reciprocating. It's real. Rye Rae, thank you very much for your pledge. Morgan Brown, thank you. Welcome into the inner circle. We appreciate it. This one coming from our boy Chris. It's relevant to the Funker as well. Definitely getting a lot of Funk love both here in the mailbag and when we were in Philly. And for sure, I will you can do much worse than being associated, even in some small way, with Terry Funk Absolute Podcast. I'll

tell you that. Hello figured it appropriate to start an email about a past legend with an intro from another. So I pounded through the Funk Tribute episodes like one of Rob Black's Extreme associates male parts, Oh Jesus, pounding the asses of xtpw's future roster pallets. It was amazing and emotional. I think it stands out as your very best work, which is a mother fucking bar

and a half to raise as is. All I can say about it is thank you, and then and continue the pain and suffering I always need and likely deserve more. That said, I wanted to share an autograph from Terry. I have many pictures with wrestlers from monster Mania, cons and New Jersey, but the only autograph I ever got was from Terry. It was in fact the Ring of Honor show where he fought Punk, which was also my first live Ring of Honor event. He was sitting in the lobby area during

the intermission at the Murphy rec Center. Barely anyone was approaching him, and I was like, why is no one talking to this guy? This is Terry fucking Funk. I'm forty six now, so I was first introduced to him outside of after Mags in WWE. Is a crazy cowboy that in WCW trying to murder Flair. Then growing up in New Jersey, about ten minutes from Philly, I went to ECW regularly, and lastly back and forth with w c W and w w E. So the absurdity that only one person

was talking to this amazing person was overwhelming. I decided I was going to change that circumstance and got into the three person line, prepping how I would impress him with my deep and wide knowledge of wrestling, but uh more so of his origins, only to effectively become Ralphie. Confronted with the ruddied nosed Santa in the mall. As I approached, he looked me up and down and with a kindly smile, asking my name and what I'd like him to

write. I brilliantly stated, anything you want works for me, really anyway? He wrote, you know, No, I asked you, what do you know? I don't know what? I asked, what you want me to write? I don't. I don't want to go ahead and write something I want to write because I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Honestly and sincerely. Honestly and sincerely, I'd rather go shoot myself in the

head. What huh, Jesus Christ, answer the question. Wait, that was a question, you said, honestly and sincerely, I'd rather go shoot myself on the head. That was a question. Anyway. He wrote his note, and as I took it to read, he smirched or rascally smiling softly said read that I had it, and it said, Hey, Chris, stay out of jail. Just kidding, you're pal Terry Funk. I replied, Oh yeah, thank you. Another of my witty responses. Funk

goes, I'm just kidding with you. Enjoy the show, Chris, to which I nervously chuckled and said, oh, it's okay, appreciated it, thank you, thank you for all the memories. But I'm sure I don't take a breath these interactions with Terry Funker, like, oh god, unbelievable. Yes, yeah, it's so true. So uh, oh, it's okay, not offended at all, appreciated and thank you, meaning thank you for all the memories. But to him, I'm sure it was a polite.

Thanks for the autograph, Oh well, that's my story and for your optical pleasure. Included a pick of the only rest only wrestler autograph that I have, and that matters. It's a beautiful thing. By the way, this just made me remember for some reason, uh fucking Christian Hollister, uh championship belt a title Like you know, here I go off on all I mean, granted, listen, I didn't bring it. I stood by, I stood my ground, and I had no intention to bring it because you

know what, bring bring it? Wrestling it because I don't want to fucking wants to care. Honestly, the more you think about it, yes, it's stupid from a from a a logical context, but who wants to carry

that ship around? I'm telling you. One of the craziest things, Like when I was having my aforementioned difficulty getting into the stadium on night too, I'm like, like observing the guy who wands you through, who works for the Lincoln Financial Field that he's like, if anybody has wrestling belts, you got to put them over here. Have the metal detectors? Like yeah, right, but you can't. You can't say no to bring wrestling belts into

WrestleMania. They'll be a fucking riot, exactly. There'll be a mutiny because people want to fucking you know people, people want to show off their championship winnings. They don't let you bring pocket night. Yet think of the things they don't let you bring into a stadium for security. They let you bring these huge fuck you could fucking belts. You could fucking waffle somebody over the head with one of those belts and it would hurt. Just take off at

the price and turn like a shift or something exactly. It's just so much damage. You can whip somebody to death with it. It's very bizarre. But you can't say because there's too many. There's just every other person has those things. And when we went to wrestling twenty years ago, no one

had those, No one, no one, you're the phone. They were even a thought, like you know, you don't even think about it because they were so you know, like they were so unique, and no nobody had the wherewithal the have like something that with the half of the actual WWF title. You wouldn't take that out of your house. Of course, it would be like a keepsake. You wouldn't wear it to the matches. Oh my god. I mean, it's like it was out of control, and

it is. I will say this, that that belt that he the AWA belt, that is very unique belt at number one. It's a lovely piece. It's kind of the only belt that I would want to get, and I would again not want to buy it, but it's it's also it's it's it's like real metal. It doesn't it's not cheap. It's really well done. So that's a fucking great, great gift. I do. I do, listen, you know what, it's the one I do pick it up every now and again and I just kind of look at it for a bit.

I don't walk around the house with it yet. You know, I'll tell you that just holding that belt in the hotel room give me more appreciation for the half dollar year. Now, I will never look at belt shots the same. I used to think it was kind of stupid and a wrestler, we're head of the wrestler over the head with the title belt, and then sell it like it's really hard metal, you know. Yeah, yeah, if it's anything like that belt, that is a legitimate knockout machine.

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Great to have you in the solar system. My friend Brian Sowers, thank you. Jacob Steele, thank you. We want to thank Brett Hirtman Hurts for that generous plank. Yes we do. I'm glad you agree. Freshly Squeezed Garrick writes to us Derek co Chairs respectfully and lovingly, fuck you guys, short time listener, first time correspondence, but in light of TLFX, I feel compelled to share my perspective on this undertaking you have unleased upon

our readers and assholes. I never wanted to be a wrestling fan again. I never know what a lapsed fan was, and now I count myself amongst their numbers. And like many things in my life, I didn't know what I wanted, what I needed until I found it. My story, in many ways, is a story of many a lapsed fan, likely a small contingent and one I'm sure you never considered. And I have found mutual ground with many folks that likely never considered me either. Like Benny, I first

found predetermined pugilism and the hallote isles of the local video rental. I didn't know which was first. I was very young, but over time I'd rented and consumed every tape they had, and then found another store and looked through theirs. I needed it all. Yes, the Sport of Kings, the superheroes and the flesh, the American Dream, Big, Van Vader, Ravishing,

Rick rud the Hart Foundation in the Legion of Doom. I love them all, except that weird dude from Demolition that couldn't stop making faces every few seconds like a character select screen on Loop. I guess he means Barry Darcel On that one, I guess Christ the fuck are you doing? My guy? These felt like mythical stories of long ago. And then television was this Shawn Michaels live in real time on my screen? Is that Golddust? One

of my all time favorites from recent tape acquisitions? What is this raw? On the age of nine, I realized that these tapes and these Warriors were Square Circle still existed right now in real time, and I was hooked about that, thinking, first time it's you wrestling that it's something that no longer exists in it's only video too, that's wild. My parents weren't thrilled the

shame fallow it. Well, I can't remember, you know. I was talking about how my dad Remerit and No Holds Barred one time, and that was really my first exposure to Hultkogan. I do kind of remember being blown away that actually, the thing that's portrayed in No Holds Barred is on television every week with new matches and characters. Yeah, yeah, I can see that still going. It's a thing. It's not just right in the movie, it's a thing in real life. Well, exactly what he's talking about,

but it's close. My parents weren't thrilled to a fine real life. Yeah, that's a that's more of a cinemac conversation, that's true. Good point welled soon after by me convincing them to order a pay per view for my birthday party so I could invite all the kids in my grade to watch it together. The pay per view. Being King of the Ring nineteen ninety eight the pain. There were plenty of unhappy parents, I'm sure. After

several more years, I found myself lapsed. Something about being a young punk kid living through the Second Iraq War made the product post nine to eleven more and more unbearable. The first inkling that maybe these characters that I had learned from Mick Foley's book were acting apart, especially the dastard lead mister McMahon, were doing less acting and more traumatization of their true selves. I love that, right. Everybody's an extension of themselves except mister McMahon. Fucking right.

I threw my time into music and dating and becoming an adult, and he's actually entertainment. He's actually not an extension. He's just himself. That's right, exactly. There's not even any exaggeration, as we came to find. As we've been telling you for about ten years now. Then twenty years later, COVID destroyed much of the life I had built, a career I was

proud of that. I would retire on that quirk quickly became too dangerous to continue, leading to unemployment lasting years with some free time, though like everyone had during the initial attempt at lockdowns, did bring my attention to new streaming services. What is peacock? It has read interesting? What is that? I partner and I were curious and watch some of the newer things, finding and entertaining, but clearly very different from what I had as a kid.

Oh wow, this thing has all the pay per views ever, brother, I wonder with the last one I remember seeing was maybe I'll look just for curiosity again, It's not like I'm going to watch them or anything. No. Two years later, at two hundred and forty shows later, Yes, and once again a full time wrestling fan, but the deeper appreciation and understanding

of why I loved it in the first place. I don't keep up on modern WW because it's simply too painful, and if I'm going to hurt that much, I'm going to choose to do it to myself more than that. Later. Oh oh boy, something else happened in the isolation of COVID nineteen along with my journey back in a wrestling fan. And it turns out that when you don't have to go out in public and uphold the mask you have created to protect yourself every day, that mask begins to slip fully ah,

and you are forced to finally see the person beneath it. How long with falling in love with wrestling again, I came to realize and accept that I am, in fact a trans woman. Now, after several years into both of these journeys, I have found that the two may not have been mutually exclusive from my personal experience. Interesting and then my experience, there are actually quite a few of us. I found that entire community of trans wrestling fans

yep, and it has been amazing to behold. It turns out that much like the queer coating of Disneyville in the nineties, having queer coated heels like gold Dust just gave some of us examples of queer people kicking ass in the face of slurs from a society that hates them. It had the opposite of the intended effect. I found out you could be pretty and strong and not take shit from those that don't want you to live your truth. Fuck yeah the New Year's Baby, though, that was fucked up? Dustined, what

the hell? Yeah, Well that's wrestling, man, I don't care. Right, they're gonna take it. They are point everybody. They are going to take it. One step or five steps too far exactly exactly. Now, be careful about being represented. Okay, we talk about the importance of representation well and pro wrestling. It's it's a dicey proposition. Now that I was caught up on things and had the right hand head on my shoulders,

I started searching out everything I could about wrestling history. I needed to know it all. I started by dredging through all the shoot interviews and podcasts of the same stories being told and retold. Still felt like cafabe. I needed more. Was I going to have to do this myself? I looked again for wrestling podcasts that did not present these workers. Tall tales is the only possible truth with no further research. What was this? The lapsed fan?

What's that? My god? Six hours? Never heard of it? Okay, maybe maybe one just to see possible. You were saying, that's like a that's like a fucking teenager saying just the tip, yeah, famous last words. Possibly my favorite tape from the rental store, the search for Sweet Sapphires. Oh no, no, it's good and they're funny. It reeks of cis hat, white guy. But the research, my god, the research totally does absolutely there's no no denying that at all. I believe I

fit the description. I have to do some gruggling, but oh shit, this butt stuff is funny as hell. Yes it is. Oh my god, Oh my god, ooh a steroid trial. Jesus father, Oh no, no, my dear CoA chairs. In a few short months, it became even clearer. This is not what I wanted, it is what I needed. Hey, you know this is We don't say it because it's not true. We don't say it because it's catchy. We say it because everyone says it back to us tenfold. I took the main's journey. I scar

blated and ran hot. I learned the art of war games. I learned the history of my current homeland of Minneapolis, Minnesota, and the rise and fall of the AABA. And by God that I suffer through the lamentable tragedy, because god damn it have been needed several champions, Oh damn straight. So, as much as I hate to admit it, as some of the bits are hard to stomach. As a woman, a survivor of sexual assault, and a trans person living through a modern world, it seems to want

us dead more than ever. If anyone were never asking me, you a fan I'd only have one honest answer in radical honesty, is how I live nowadays. Yes, yes, I am so thank you for having me ten

years late to the party. And on a final note, speaking of parties, it turns out I still feel the need to make a wrestling podcast no offense, But it turns out there's a lot of voices that aren't sis had men that have things to say about their absolutely long love and hate of bullshit Brawlingularly, anything from Staggerly Marshall is that you have to be the pan gendered, no loads refused, nitro funk party that you want to see in the

world. So go ahead and release the podcast. I wish you the best. I love that. I think it's a great fucking idea. Oh shit, I know, well yeah, you know, hey I I I certainly want to say I hear you h regarding the sexual assault, and I wish you the best. On a final note, I'm willing to bet there's a lot of us chronically online transferm lapsed fan listeners. Interesting. If your back catalog tells me anything, it's that you guys also love pills to get your

dick card. Well wait, what remember we do with the blue two days. Oh fuck yes, and shoving things are very swollen. You get yes. If this email is too long, too much info in anyway and pleasant energy to revisit its opening missive. Fuck you guys, complimentary, never apologize, but like the funker said, we do it our way because we love it that way. Damn right, great stuff. Fuck yeah, I love it for the missive, that's fantastic. H uh, Anthony FIORI thank you

very much for the pledge. We appreciate the cake. Dean writes the night Edge and mcfoley attack Cactus Jack on Raw was five days before my college graduation. That's how I spent the last Monday night of course college days. Of course, you could have been doing anything. You could have been. You could have been like partying, you could have been fucking whatever, But you know what you were where you needed to be, because that's where, you know. That's what we give up. We give up all the good ship

because we need to see what is going to happen on Raw. Dean Cliff, whatever your name is. Rights, not drinking, not seeing friends, watching fake sports, that's right, and eating chicken tenders from the food hall. I don't see the problem. It's fucking go Boss, chicken tenders from the food hall. Does that not put you in a particular place in time? Chicken patties at the thin chicken? Feel? My god, you know what I mean? Christ I can feel the jacket I owned that. Oh

I know, I can, I can, I can. I can remember my my, my leather blazer that I used to wear. Because it's totally okay. How about Jeff who writes Hogan nineteen eighty four and the rest well is up to you, boss. Hey, guys, saw that one of the Hogan casts. H dropped saw that part one of the Hogan What Hogan cast? Do you remember doing Hogan's first to win titling? Oh shit, Oh my god? Hap we to do that? It's been been a long year, a long TLFX. All right, it's only just begun. Hope

it's not too late to send memories. But here's my story. It's a bit of a lapsed X recollection mixed in with early Hogan. I found this podcast when you were when you all were about halfway into the WrestleMania journey. One thing tlf has always made me think about was I don't remember not watching wrestling or quote finding wrestling as far back as I can remember. I remember being a wrestling fan, and it's not like I was choosing what was on

TV when I was a toddler in the mid eighties. I was born a year after Hogan won the title for the first time. My parents were young when I was born. They are early in the MTV era and the perfect demo for that early rock and wrestling Hogan era. In the nineties, my brother and I got a TV in our room because they didn't want wrestling on

the TV. Wow. But the older I get, the more obvious it is that they were drawn into a sport, into the sport of kings by Hogan because I was too young, quite frankly, to decide I was a hulkamenagg I remember us checking out the Rocky movies from the library in my late teens. While most of you were Blockbuster millennials, we were at checkout movies from the library. Family they did that too. They didn't have any wrestling

movies though. That's kind of thing like, they didn't have any wrestling fucking videos at my library, So yes, I would, I would borrow movies. Well, I said, no, you know what, I wouldn't. We didn't have them really like it was. It was after I graduated high school when the Town Library, Yeah, that's definitely more of a DVD. They didn't they didn't have like good VHS tapes. They had like it was

crap. It was always not crap. I shouldn't say that, that's very derogatory, but it was like, you know, fucking PBS shit, and I don't want to watch that as a kid, you know, right exactly. It's like stuff, it's it's it's it's video books is what it was, you know, and I don't. I didn't want to read, sure,

as I didn't want to fucking watch something about basically reading. I definitely remember time in my life where I'm like, wait a minute, so libraries are like best buy now Yeah, oh yeah, I was, Oh my god, are you kidding me? The at the time, the uh, the the Amherst Town Library in twenty twenty twenty twenty one was the uh, the original uh place, you know, kind of the original hotspot for under

the cinemat. Oh, I'd get all the fucking movies there, like if I when I when I found I basically go in there with my list and just see what they had from my list. That was that I could that I could uh uh you know, borrow and rip. Wow, really I didn't know that. Yep, yep, I'd do that. I would go in there and uh yeah. I tried to just grab as much as I

could, just about everything or not. They did a lot. They had a good selection, certainly more of like you know, more current stuff and you had to do a physical DVD home, right, that's what they were offering. Yeah. Yeah, at the time, it was it was that and you know, then you find your ways around all that stuff. Brother, go on, brother, what uh? What my parents told us about Hull Cogan was when he came on the screen of Rocky three. You hadn't

seen me won that big on TV before. To them, still oone seemed huge, but seeing Hogan towering over him had them and everyone they knew awestruck. Well, to forget about the apple box he was standing on. Well, yeah, that's the thing. That's why it was such a stroke of genius, because not only is hulkogan and taller than Rocky, but they realize that if we made it even that much taller than were still alone, it

would be legendary. That was such a stroke of genius. How many people did we hear from and have heard from over the years that said that that was the thing about Hogan and Rocky three is how much taller he was. It wasn't just the muscles, it was how much taller he was. Yeah, because it made him seem like completely huge, like a giant, as opposed to just you know, Hogan, Yeah, ripped up and my dad, whether he wants to admit it or not, it's clearly a closet hulkamaniac.

I love when you all talk Hogan knows best in his first book because I can remember coming home from college and finding my dad watching this reality show with Hogan I didn't know about because I was lapsed from the product at the time. As I was I was in college. When you read the book. When you read the book, it takes me back to my dad telling

me everything he learned about the Hulkster when I'd call home from college. Recently, un a visit home, we watched the AA and documentary on WrestleMania one uh uh, and it was great to hear my parents talk about early MTV. A couple of other quick Hogan thoughts. Number one, as it is lapsed x TLFX and Hogan. It's finally time to tell you about the artsy girl I dated in college who claimed to see people's aura and said she couldn't

see the colors red and yellow together. Brother, that's concerning. I'm very concerned. That's what do you What do you mean? What do you mean? Do when you say when you say when you say together, what does that mean? Dude? He's saying like I were all red or I were all yellow or what's brother? I just need to know exactly what it is, what's going on? That's that's my question because I'm feeling wait for an answer, and you're standing. I've asked you the question about five times already,

dude, and you're sitting there saying, I don't know Hulk. I don't know Hulk. I don't know Hulk. And I'm wondering exactly what it is you don't Oh right, what do you know? What? What can we talk about? What you do know? Maybe I didn't think so, Bro, I know more than you do, you know more than me? Where are we? Dude? We're going to separate red and yellow now? I mean I thought this was America, brother, I thought those were primary colors. Dude, woman, you can't see him together. Dude, I

can't see these colors together. I'm not a racist, dude, I never have been. I am not a racist. Do you have against red and yellow being together? Brother? Dude? What who my wiretap right now? Dude? Are you going to release this tape in twelve years? Dude? Brother? Are you recording this call? Dude? Okay, now I finally have the title of my Hoogan biography. Are you recording this call? Dude? It's kind of like guess who's coming to dinner? Yes, yep,

yep. Are you recording this call? Dude? Absolutely? Uh two. I'd love to hear the Hulkster listen to the song this is It by Kenny Logger and Michael McDonald and get more and more paranoid as he listens to the lyrics. That sounds like, that's not like a Cameo thing to me. Good you go to the het so you sweat it out on stage? Do it a live lap ju the people? It's no, it is not, it is not. Tell him tell about Cameo you've been absolutely yeah. We

had a couple of good ones here at cameo dot Com. Slash laps fan just we just had one. Go. Oh, they should probably post it, actually post a link to it on on Twitter. Uh. The the call a bit on the call the uh, someone asked to do the uh what the the newsroom meeting was before WrestleMania x L in Philadelphia? And what is of the paper? Yeah? And what it is that? He? Uh? You know what the editor told the people there? And so it was. It was quite funny. It was pretty fucking funny. I won't

lie. That really fucking had me. Uh And yeah, you know, listen, a lot of a lot of things were revealed. I'll say that a lot of things were revealed, so well, we'll post it. But I would say this Hogan thing paranoid of a song, that's definitely a cameo thing. So let's do it. Yeah, a little more for a little more selective about those things. Indeed. Okay, thank you very much for the pledge. We love it. I appreciate the cake. Matt writes,

I was in a rack for Royal Rumble two thousand and eight. WHOA, my dearest co chairman. I would like to start by giving you all the credit that is deserved for the lapsed funk your workdor in that series was second to none and will never be duplicated. One more quick false start. I recently finished my second or third Listen to the Momentable Tragedy after watching The Iron Claw and once again absolutely unbelievable work there as well. That movie. Can't

hild a candle to what you all uncovered as the truth. Now for the actual subject of my email. In January twenty oh eight, I was deployed to the tour Rock with the US Army. We deployed No. December oh seven, the day after Armageddon, when Orton won the title twice at one night. The fact that you remember, Oh my god, I'm I'm I

feel bad, feel awful for you, sir. In a rock the pay per views would started like two AM, and because I'm a lifelong degenerate wrestling fan, I was up and loading up the thenww dot com pay per view stream. Oh my god, you imagine in a rack on the stream the Internet. In racks, you might expect what'sing exactly great, So the stream wasn't crisp before it settled my need for the show. I'm sitting outside my housing unit, freezing my balls off, watching fake sports while un deployment.

The shame. I remember the show not being much for me overall until the rumble. Having kept up with the Week tw week online, I fully expect a triple H to win, that is until number thirty. Now. I'm a twenty five year old man at the time and have known the dirty truth about wrestling for most of my life. But when Sina came out, I had to remind myself it was almost five am and no one else cared. That's right. Ye'll be careful out there. Yep. It was obviously a

huge shock and made the show. While I'm sure most of the emails you get will have similar themes, overall, just wanted to give you a different viewpoint. Continue to love the work. Thank you for seeing them. Ania. That's yeah, that's amazing. You know they talk about being on the Armed Forces Network and everything, and oh yeah, you never think about people

in military installations across the world watching wrestling. Oh god, no, I mean, like that's the thing, Like you never really thought about people doing that and what you know, or more importantly, how embarrassing it would be to do that. Absolutely get caught by, you know, some of your fellow soldiers and like they're like, what the Fuck's wrong with you? What are you doing? Ok? You watch it? Can you tell me you watch this? Fucking shit? What do you think? The war's fake?

Too? Just hovered watching a stream like at the way in the morning, complete immediate accusation, absolutely going right to fucking wait you watch wrestling? Do you think? Do you think what we do here is fake? Oh? My god? Being deployed is fake? You? The war's fake? Right determined? How can I trust you to have my back when the ship goes down? A real shooting from fake shooting? Fuck her? So our man Brian, longtime supporter. We'd love to have him the Solar System. Was

great to see him front row in Philly. Damn straight coming out sports cause yeah, some Strailia bag. Since we were last with you this one. I'll also take a deep breath and a swig of water. This one he's calling the second annual Motor Mega mail Bag. Oh shit, make movies, Hello, CoA Chairs, you topped yourselves again in twenty twenty three. I'll

save my larger thoughts on the show for lapstacks Jesus Christ. For now, I'm just sending you my very not brief thoughts on some of the funniest lines in Moments from twenty twenty three, broken down by episode category, along with a few random thoughts and questions. I hope you enjoy rereading some of your lines as much as I did listening to them. Keep in mind that this email was significantly trimmed down from more of a novel length to novella length.

Yeah, this is the level of interest and passion that you two inspire. Jack can read the first few sections and JP can read the end of the cinemat and Wrestle Mammy as sections, Oh Boy, Sane Show tnh JP said, if homicide and suicide could team up, you would have pushed that up. It's true. Jack came up with the phrase extract, transform and larry it laps, Hogan said to Dixie, can we talk Terry brother? Jack accidentally said Brooke Hogan broke Hogan brook, Well, that's true too. Actually

it's not. I it's not wrong, which would perfectly describe Hulk if not for the Gawker Laws. It Indeed, j JP, by episode two of T and H sound that is despondent, as he did by the end of the World Class Journey lapsed. Vince. We are looking to efficiently socialize the actionable and degree we are looking to efficiently soci the action of olyndic race. So actually don't mind doing that? Can we get that on the on the

to do list? Please to efficiently socialized actionable innovationally and then the next next phase of evolution in the w E followed by w w E action zone creates diversity and boils the ocean. Yes, Jack referred to Linda Hogan as our hell in heart for T and H does that mean Nick Hogan is Bruce brother? JP revealed in college he bought San Fernando Jones and the Temple is King I did. I did my first ABYSS, my first fucking porn tape.

I bought that like my first weekend at ned Emerson. I went down there was like a the used to be there, used to be a uh there was like an adult video shop like right behind, and I was like, oh, there on my own, I'm gonna go buy a porn. Yeah. It wasn't good at internet. Wasn't good enough too, surely not to

get fucking Indiana Jones based porn. During a discussion about abyss and business, Jack said they are stakeholders that s T E a k and the end of part one of Teenage episode seven might be the hardest I've ever heard Jack laugh. JP had played various audio clips, had mixed in the sound of repeated shots he started mixing and Dixie over the top of various clips, Jack the immaterial llog, I don't remember that at all. Lap's O gonna ask Bischoff

if he wants to take a whack with Brooks. Did you want to take a whack with these? Dude? Just hit him? Brother Jack or JP came up with six tape sex tapes and aces Bishoff name drop Tom Beers who bought me because my brother worked for Tom for years. That was a big name drop for Bischoff. Just shows how much of a nothing in Hollywood he is, always has been, always will be. Now out of the bunkhouse stampede. During a union riff, someone says, we know you want Hawk

to prevail, but the only thing that will prevail is wages. Excellent, He writes, Oh my god. Super Bowl ninety one a chat gpt On murdered Layoffs Great of the phrase specs Special Special special tribute. After JR. Made his first reference of the night to the Sooner as Jack said sooner or later actually an hour, laters, Oh my god. Yes. During a riff on Dusty covering up for eels being cheered resulted in one of you saying we have no idea who our fans will cheer for, and w c W

we have no idea. You discussed Dusty going to an in and out and note that animal style means the hamburger has growed onions. One of you mentioned Rang. Then JP asked about Smack and Jack Jack asked about two five live oh Shire too much? Oh my god, christ Brian writes Mendez a discussion about Nikita Coloff in the Middle East with a Russian envoy that to someone saying c CCP stands for a cock Jock said, Jack said Jack, are you really miss Jack? Jack said, daped fistmatch. I thought it was lying.

Oh fuck me. I guess it was a good year. Ay w revolution. Jack said the young books associated with Recida for p W, but the only receded now is their hairlines. In response to the commentary line the body shuts down to protect the liver, Jack gasked about what about the it's a pat for that matter? Yeah, lapsed funk. During a discussion on a e F American Expeditionary Force. Yeah, because that's what Doys Senior was in. JP guessed it to Frau Fakers. JP said Dusty came from Hamburg

and Frankfurt. Oh, that was great. Jack then said he was on the Hidden Valley Ranch. This isn't you know, this isn't fun. Are we not having fun here? Hurt so bad? In the spirit of Dornce Funk you coined Corance Graves, Torrance Wilson, Codence Roadwance Culkin. Talk about Terry's grandfather being a policeman led to Jack saying Dori Senior was also a cop because he could because he could shoot on people. Trying to expose the business

laps Funk Japan. Talking about Terry ordering food in Japan, laps Terry said, you order a dish and you might get something else, And Jack said, you order a dish and the cable company comes. You know, I saw I went to a restaurant, I ordered a dish, and all of a sudden, I had cable TV. I on a head and change the channel. Mail bag. JP read an email where I just about Tom Savini.

JP explained to Jack that he looks like the horny guy, before remembering he was thinking of Lee Marshall hilarious called back to the start KD the mayor did the horny guy funk laps, Terry said, I didn't say I'd never wrestle again. I said I'd never wrestle again. Jack then said, I guess it depends on where you put the com up like ware Oh, hilarious. During a discussion about the Brisco, someone said, don't you know grammar? Then the other CoA chair said she died before I was born. Dory

Junior was described as being significantly sweaty in the nether regions. I mean it's very true, you know, sometimes I can't control the liquor. Thanks Tory that liquid. He said, there's a there's an immense amount of condensation that happens underneath my my jockey shorts and other reflections. Last laps, Jack Criscal said, the thing about pancakes is sometimes I forget who I am. That's not fair to you. That one that's that's one of your favorite t l

f X. Fucking you get what's good? What's really good? What it do? Idiot Jack briscol JP and Jack Briscal. He looks like he can go all around and still not know what's coming, followed by Jack. You can say that again, JP said, Jackie, you get it all the way around. And I'd say, said Jack Briscoe will forever make me think of SAP, and Jack said, I will forever hear his maple syrup voice. JP described Jack Briscoe as the Eli Manning of laps Funk Dusty laps Terry.

I want ahead, and I want ahead, and I want ahead. Then Jack asked, is this Millie Vanilli? Jack described Dorry is looking as comatose and down syndrome as ever. That was wrong, I said that. JP said Dorr's hair is a real problem and he looks like the pro over. You say someone's hairror is a real lapsed funk Lawler. During the two thousand and three Funk Lawler, Matt Jack said Lawler goes unmolested. I did

say the same for some of his girlfriends. Laps Funk Hogan, someone called someone coined double cross ranch dressing Lapstogan said the lapsed funk Terry leading to laps Funk. I don't know if you were saying double or I'm saying single. Oh, you had an amazing refund Bunk looking up Hogan in the phone book, las Funk said, I was gonna. I was looking at ats for Hogan. Then I realized this your real last name. And I tried teas for Terry. Then realized it is not that I called every Terry in the

phone book. Hm hmm water. I really can't. Oh god, mh. I'm gonna drink some prime, getting fucking Christy. You're gonna get prime for this chip. Oh, mother of God. I'd ask if the person is Terry the wrestler. When they'd say no, I think, well he is paranoid to it kid him. Jack then said Hogan's biopic should be Terry the Wrestler. Jack, as Funk said, I called the police and a sting picked up. I say, Hey, is this Terry the wrestler? Hey, is Terry there? Yeah? This is this is she? Are

you Terry the Wrestler? No? Oh, sorry, I'll call you back. I'll call you back. Look, there's still more to be done here, but for now I can't prioritize him. I'll call you back. Other unwrapping a chat GPD story involving Virgil created the term spaghetti wrestling. Oh God, Jesus Christ. Jack then clamored for a spaghetti wrestling shirt with a ring made out of linguini and a tomato stain on it. Has this been made of shirt? And yet I don't believe it has that one. I guess

Christmas Chat gpt Vince. What we're principally engaged in is the transfer of digital files, which led to laps Vince dating. And I'd rather have an r O I than an r O H fucking hilarious. I had a random thought during Lapsed Funk can lapse Terry say, goozle me to ketch it a, gozele me to cash it. I had I gotta take Asheta as well. After the damn match went ahead and took Ashida. I had the fortune of seeing JP live and King of the Jews. The show was great and JP

was fantastic. JP was directly in front of me at points with his back turn to me. I can only imagine Hoping literally quaking, and I don't mean tenta in his boots if he was performing that setup. There was a line in the play about Jewish names into Horowitz. I felt like I was listening to Jack of a ninety five issue of the Observer. That's good one more for me live calls rollin versus Baller, money in the bank, catchiatory

Shabbata was coined. It was commentary said Damian Priest is a significant threat. JP said all prices are a threat, or at least wait a minute, at least like what was the I forget what the percentage was and in spotlight, Oh yeah, whatever it was, I forgot to eighty ninety Oscar Bianca running the bank. There was a discussion about Paul Hayman's wait for some reason. Jack said Cody is the only person who needs more weight aid A than JP said he has an infinite weight. Oh my god, trash Trish versus

Becky from Payback. Someone said Becky's twist of fate was a tribute to lead her. Then the other co host said she is familiar with the leaders being a pier. Oh god, ray theory. Somehow a riff resulted in the coach chairs imagining if WW had debuted road as Ol mysterio or or Bob mister

Usso's backlash. Someone said they were victims of a one dimensional program, and the other co chairs said the USO's finisher is a one dimensional finisher for a one dimensional entertainment property and most importantly, one dimensional entertainment ode is what Endeavor bought Becky Zoe Stark. JP described Zoe Stark by saying her forehead keeps golden

going. Cody Brock SummerSlam. While talking about Cody taking Suplex's Jack said, if we are talking about brand integration, this should be brought to you by Salesforce. At the end, there was a discussion about rebuilding Cody, and JP said they'll never rebuild the Twin Towers and they'll never rebuild Cody Roads. Hey, you know what I will admit when I'm wrong about one thing. Man, They did rebuild the Twin Towers. Oh shit, boo, oh

shit. Charlotte Riea. Jack said, of course Charlotte is entitled. She is the SmackDown champion. Puts to deation. How many times has she been entitled? Cody fast laying tag the co chairs had the autumn feeling that's a good move to have. In October, a gordbuster Jack called the series of roll ups, prompting a perfectly timed browler. Cody priest Crown Jewel put a

fork in him. He's JD McDonald oh Rollin's Drew crownjewel. There was a discussion about Vince calling Saudi Arabia our home, which led to one of the CoA chairs coming up with sand Martin seen a solo Crown jewel. JP hated seen his hair and kept repeating over and overlooking him, It's so true. You were trying to keep his hat on. It may and then when the hat came off, how many times did he slick his hair back after putting solos? He knew his hair is just completely out of control, and you

know, like, honestly, he should go out there. They should. Someone should fucking spray paint that bald spot, all right. It's not that hard to spray paint it, right, I mean it's would have done the trick. Oh. Instead, he's growing it as long as he can, and it's just it looks trying to get the hair from the front to cover the bald spot in the back by slicking it back. I know he's doing. He's doing like a very an awful comb over. And it's just like

it gets worse because his hair is so thin. The longer it gets, the more the more like non committal. His hair is right, It's so true, it's not it's not with him all the way to the end Women's War Games. When Becky was bleeding, JP said she had juice. Jack said about juice just waiting till Randy Orton and the Men's war zones hilarious. Randy's nex certainly didn't look like a stack of nimes. That night, when EO put on a trash can, one of you dubbed her the idiot of

the sky, one of my favorite nicknames, idiot. I pretty proud that was good. Yeah, Roman J SummerSlam. I don't remember the context at all, but JP said Roman was soaking in the genitalia of reality. What a hilarious use of playing or I had some very bizarre autogorrect on my phone. I think JP was just coming up with magic. If it was Roman J, that means it was the main event, and likely I was inebriated, so very it's very it's very possible that I did say that Sammy Roman.

JP was annoyed with new beverige On Smith Ever announcing him as Roman horangeman. Hooray. JP said, that is what you go to court for, a horrange utc. It's all you I get to take a break, all right, all right, here's some of my favorite lines and a few questions comments about eligibility for UTC. Scream three j P played a clip from a ne F Campbell interview where she said she didn't have a body double because there was no nuty except quote, I only showed my back and we've all seen

them laps get im erupted. Brother. There was an extended ogan riff uh where he said, who's back? Nobody told me about exposing back? Brother, I'll show my fucking cock. What are you exposing my back to? Jack said to everyone behind you laps so gonna who's gonna roll me up? Brother? What a delightful detour from a standard breslam from a movie and noan fumpman in Roadhouse, JP played a Terry Funk song about Barbarestreuisen's nose which uh,

which contained a line about Liberachi smiled. That made me wonder if Liberaci's appearance at the initial Wrestlmanium makes him eligible for UTC. Possibly. I mean, it is pretty it's one of those legendary moments. It's it was possible. Yeah, I'm not opposed to it. If a celebrity appearance in wrestling

counts that that one does. Yeah, yeah, I mean especially for that, I mean it was such a you know, I would I would almost I would pretty much say that anyone who appeared at WrestleMania one kind of has an automatic celebrity, right, you know, has an automatic in with that. So, yes, Labaracci would would, which I don't think I'll take a look at that now, because I would love I would love forty five

minutes on how his appearance at WrestleMania game together. Yeah right, yeah, seriously, Bob Bucher is in the Hall of Fame, so I believe major League, Yes, major League is eligible for the Seibor movies. Bob Bucker is all Bob Yucker stuff. Is Michael Buffer eligible? Yeah, absolutely, he is, absolutely so I assume so based on his recent coverage in the Rady Rumball episode. He has an extensive filmography, including Harlem Knights with Eddie

Murphy. I was actually good Light. Yes, Paul Walter Hauser, Yes, has eaten a guitar, Shart and agent. Actually now, especially now, I mean, listen, anyone, anyone who wears a fucking t L left shirt in the ring gets an automatic fucking you know, you know, immediate entry shouting and wrestling. Yeah, he qualifies the covered your jewel.

Yeah, I do want to do that. And the only thing more ninety six, uh, Atlanta than Ted Turner and d c W. That's true, w W W right some and it's right there, right in the Ted Turner back backyard there. That's crazy. Uh. Someone posted a clip where JP talked about Robert Parrish ropes of seamen. Actually it was you saying that, but we've I've I've adopted it because it was one of the fucking funniest

things I've ever heard of in my life. This naturally made me think of when you said fucking shooting ropes, fucking extream of cum just like like a like a like a yeah exactly. This naturally made me think of basketball players. I believe Shack should be No, Absolutely, he would be eligible. He's been involved in quite a bit. Blue chips eligible. Yes, Blue chips will allow you to cover early nineties Nick Nolty again, as well as Celtics greats. Bob is a Kousie, I don't even know Couzi, Bob

Coozy and Larry Bird Shaq would also make he a game eligible. Yep, I'd say all that stuff. Oh, could Spike Lee, Rosario Dawson, Celtic Great Ray Allen, and most importantly, as we learned from Beyond the Matt Newjack's friend Denzel Washington. Creed three features both Maral Ronaldo and Todd Grisham. Yes, the Qualifies air has clips of Hogan and mister t and the

opening credits. Yeah, that qualifies for sure. Is Genie Buss available for you to be the owner of the Lakers as the producer of Women of Wrestling? Yes, absolutely that. She's also prucer on The Last Man Hunt, which features Oscar nominee Lily Glass. Absolutely. Definitely someone who's someone who's behind the scenes especially, I think is important. That's why you know, Jason Hervey is like a you know he's gonna be great. Bill Murray and Groundhard

Day gives wrestling. Yes, I do want to do that when that I I it's definitely a long shot, but I think it's I think it's important. But he does wrestling tickets to uh Michael Shannon and some woman and they go crazy over it, which would have been wrestling nine. Actually, I believe Wow, would the movie be I I think so. I think I think mentioning WrestleMania specifically, is uh is is important? Is Alice Cooper appearing

in Wrestlming You three enough to be eligible? This would make John Carpenter's principle Prince of Doctor is already on there anyway, for another reason, Wayne's World. That'd be fun. I need I need. Jack's commentary on O'Neil's cameo in Wayne's World. Nice, it's really fucking funny. I liked that cameo of his. When will Scary three? Because Serio Movie three be covered. Lesie Nielsen is in it and it has a wrestling he eleven reunion of Pan

and And and Jenny McCarthy. It also features a favorite of mine and Jack, George Carlin. Yeah, it'll be there, listen, Leslie Nielsen, is is is a qualification for sure because the whole leadout Summer some Money. Don't even just Summer s money before, but the whole you know, he was on TV every week for like two months. Absolutely, would Richard Belzer qualify for UTC because of the incident with Hogan. This would qualify a number

of movies, including Fame. I don't think Richard Belzer would oh qualify interesting, Yeah, it didn't happen. It didn't happen in wrestling, and he didn't like make an appearance with wrestling. It happened, you know, it happened on his show, right right. I mean, granted, I know it's a little bit different because he yeah, because he choked him out. But I don't think so because there was there was never like a return appearance

on Hogan's turf. You know, if bells that's a good point. If Belser had made a return appearance, I would say yes, but he didn't. It's tough, like you're saying, any any platform or wrestler has appeared on Larry King would would qualify, right, Yeah, no, no, because it's gotta be the opposite really because Russell here would qualify tho because they mocked him on Yeah. Yeah, interesting, maybe you wouldn't. But no, it's a good point. I didn't really think about it like that,

but that's actually a good point. They did do that. That might put that. I'll look into that Ghostbusters too. JB talked about will Wilhelm vald Hamburg being a butcher. In Hamburg, the coach has showed he was not a butcher in jobs or anything else, just the Butcher said to Jack, saying the burger in the Blade jav Coin of burgers in blades, Oh my

god. Jamie described Dan Accord as the Vince Russo. To ivant wrightman Vince McMahon after discussing his terrible ideas, you talked about Irish, Bob McKinney, Jack said, you know, you know, Bob, you know you don't have to say Irish. That doesn't distinguish you. Oh. Robert Lipside of The New York Times wrote in an article about wrestling as being quote filled with smoke and the smells of linimen steam and too many people trendous, he writes.

JP also read from the article about a quote well placed hoax, leading JP to say, isn't that what wrestling is? Jack said, I don't know about well placed. Then JP dropped the quote wrestling fans have been dricked again. Clip Fantastic. Ernie Hudson's cameo had one sentence about Wilhelm, leading Jack to saying he gave a bishoff response, Oh, Jack could increasing the drink clip from Michael Chapman of the future Never No, Never, Never know.

Jmikin laughing was the man in the clip. Jack said, what a world, what a word salad, This guy sucks. It's a wonderful life. Jack's reaction to JP's revealed the movie is by far the happiest I have ever heard. He was even happier than Jimmy Steward. At the end of the movie, I had a similar look on my face. I can tell you bet way to go. Clarence JV mentioned something with quote a lack of taint Jacks, I'd love to see him actress Trace Tate, and JP said

there was with naked midion. You read this called freak Capra Carnie fuck and said no, ladies and gentlemen before him, before noting that Capra Fi America faster than both Freak Capra ship drag fucking Opera. During the scene where Jimmy Stewart tells his daughter to continue playing after his Outbridge said quote, it will relieve me my responsibility. Oh my god, it will relieve me of my responsibility for your tears. Okay, practically your fucking content. God damn it.

Wonderful movie, wonderful episode, wonderful line from Jack Shadow Warriors too. We're going back to the beginning of the year now, JP said the arc Focus Life is a series of quote this things which brought the JACKA says, opposed with sad things. Oh my god, I mean it's supposed to be Princess Bride, but it has written Princess Bridge. I fucking love it, brother, I never thought i'd here. JP. Compare William Goldman to Eric

Pischoff. Goldman said, quote stars don't have friends, they have a associates and serfs Lisle. You do note this describes Hogan perfectly. Golan Goldman would all Goban would always call Andre Andre one of you coined crimp soup play and there the giants, Oh my god money. Uh. Somehow there was a rough about Hogan becoming apparently lovely Crystal becoming the champ off all the David arquette, Tim, what do you do? What are you doing? Dude?

Exactly? Why are you talking? Brother? Is Billy Crystal put the belt? He put the belt and Billy Crystal? Dude? What's he doing here? Brother? Darry? Why are you here for that matter? What Crystal before the David? Are you give him my strap? Terry? I'm not killing anybody your strap. I don't know why you're here. You weren't called into the the building. You don't have an office here. What do you mean a Roman office? Dude, Terry, you don't have an office.

You don't actually officially work for the w W E you are a private contractor Yeah, when did you do this? Dude, Terry? It's in your contract. Does Billy? Does Billy Crystal the contract? Dude? Exactly like you trying to scot around this very important Terry. Billy does have a contract with the w W We're trying to do some momentum with him. I'm trying to build momentum with Billy Crystal. What you mm hmm? Bill? You're gonna build with Billy? Dude? Is that the new slogan for the eight

Are we talking? We're talking building? Is that it too? Are you build? Yes, Jerry, We're giving him this strap at WrestleMania four? Brother? Yeah? What h m hm hm uh huh m hm do do you do? Do I have any saying this? Brother? What I mean, Darry? I don't believe you have creative control and con in your contract? What about sexual elevens of paragraphy? Brother? Not? My contract won't

happen for another eight years, give or take with Turner. So Tim White described Andre lifting his leg to fart as these the launch position, which Jack loved, Jacket preferring to Mandy Patinkin as Mandy Potenkin. Now we just need the battleship Patinkin and patink In villages. Jack brought up particularly Curtis being married with Christopher guests, and JAF said, imagine Titty fucking her. Jesus j

exactly exactly. Oh shit, this episode, they're rereading things they've said in the past and last exactly exactly, so now you can see exactly preside adventure. Jack talked about Shelley Winters and her affairs, then said Winters is coming take that Game of Thrones. Oh God, Torry Inferno. After japing note of that John Williams is the conductor laureat for the Boston Pops. Jack said,

Sterne Has is the conductor lariat. Oh, I fucking can't ten commandments the coach has noted how Vince is like Charlton Heston and will be the mill. Listening to the Heston n R clips makes me need someone to photoshop Vince holding w w WEE with the text from Heston's cold Dead hands line in Vince about to push the button got it. Uh, a shark attack, a riff about the obituary for a principal secretary Mary McDonald on the tea in Boston. But oh sure, this is a good one. Man, I forgot

about this. Oh what is it saying Mary mcconald's that pitture? What does it say? What does it say? Well, we said we didn't. We said she always smelled like yesterdays. She always smelled like yesterday's. Did We played a clip of a podcast interview with someone involved making the movie, and shodcast was not a podcast. And if you were a park parkin Oh, oh god, oh shit, the mailbag workout with Oh god, seriously, it really is Marine four JP reds are mixed metrics from Vince on an

investor's call. Can we get a fixed metrics or a mixed metrics arts shirt? Jack had an incredible line, Dolph doesn't DOLP doesn't sell. He offers Marine five. Someone coined the name Marine Man Randy Savage. What I'm digging that? Uh huh? Here we go into the movies. Here I think we're gonna do Marine Man, Marine number seven, Marine Man Randy Savage, coming to serve your duty. Bone saw nos bone saw is ready for the marine man last action here. During a riff on upset locals, Jack and

I Pitch Squeal said my property values unbelievable. The wrestler in two thousand and eight, Mickey Rourke said about his character, quote, I hope he dies. It's the only thing going for him. After a click clock clip of Roork about heaven saying quote, my brother's over there and the girls are over there, Jack responded legend alert. Jack said he would say cunt in James Linton's face. JP did the right thing. He was shameless and getting cameos

from wrestlers. He said he was a fan of Blue MIENI since the e c W dayson, even better than he was a fan of Asty since the DNA days. That's what I do, That's what I do. Agreed, everybody should salut JP for his efforts instead of Darren Aronowski. How just how willing are you to call the movie? The sports entertainer Terry Gross described wrestling as the quote theater of cruelty and suffering. Theater what what do you mean? What? But get rid of that part of it? Cruelty and suffering

and alone. During a sex scene in Rahway, New Jersey. Jack said he was tearing her the raw way. Oh God. The wrestler. In nineteen seventy four, Eugene gump Enough said I think it was JP who said ed astors quote unending squest, unending quest for snatch regarding his relents, et J be rid about squaring the beef, and Jackson like, what, oh

God, my good things? We say so so we just say them to hear ourselves saying I know, it's like, you know, there's there's It's just like, you know, it's just constantly saying ship, not knowing what's gonna be the one that that that has us rolling on the floor. But just try to get there. Just fucking keep throwing words out there, and

if one of them works, it's gonna go oh shit. I love hearing about Vern getting out conned by David Friedman Beyond the Mat after a clip of the director having shame about naming a favorite Matt shape, he said, in the United States of America, it is unacceptable to be a professional wrestling fan. Talking about the director's wife hiring Dusty for his birthday, Jack said, so Virgil, it was worth the money. Oh God, an incredible line.

He says laps. Vincent to Barry blaustein ari his Parkinson's I I did not give you Parkinson's. I deny it. I always knew you had a steady hand as a shit Jesus Christ. Jack said, Vince sends Bury a package every week that says fragile, do not drop laps. Vince then gave instructions to some underling. All right, hide behind a bush film it. Then throw a rock in his head, in his head, or better yet, the rock, ah, Jack, that's what it sounds like, intern

like taking the rock up over his head and throwing him. Jack said, throw a rock. That's a very big last and said just throw Dwayne. Oh god, Jake on a podcast with Conrad. You can't do cocaine and do a job, Jack. That's why okan always money. Has t l Lef made a life is about food? Shirt? Yet no, this line you come up again during this episode because you called blouse and a master destroy Tillip for specifying on the commentary track that Jake was eating taco bell nachos.

Jack, in response to Jake getting angry, You know who is most upset about about being lied to liars? They are mad you lied to them before they could lie to you. If there is a lapse, Hall of Fame, Dennis Stamps, I'm not booked. Poem belongs there. Blousing also said when wrestlers say brother, they mean bullshit. Yep, please give me a lapse. Hope brother what brother? No bull brother, not bullshit, just brother. What? After reading Dennis's boring grandfather like stories, Jack said,

it is like Romney was a wrestler. Someone coined taco Michinoka, Taco roll Michinoku, uh JP kepacks and calling Dennis as Terrence Stamp. That's funny because Terrence Stamp is as an actor. When talking about Dennis's death, he was quoted as saying the quote only time I was really alive was in the ring. Jack said, or electrify me. In response to Terry Funk saying the only place you show real pain is at home with family, and that it

is worse when they know it is fake but you are really hurt. Wow, Jack lob Blausen saying he was disturbed that fully went to Vince when he wasn't even an employee and that quote Vince's might as touch as that disappointing him would be the worst days of their lives. Bingo JP said about Roland Alexander, he has never earned honest dollar in his life. Know me, when

JULIETT. Hogan and a Clip said, he quote isn't strictly Dickley, So one of you said the occasionally, Oh Jesus, Ryan's like the fucking best, these little assaults. Oh my god. Everyone remembers the big sweeping bits, you know, but this ship is like, yeah, the things we say that, you know, like just fucking out of nowhere, last in the moment and poof, they just go away. Okay, oh man,

get ready, here we go wrestle Mamia. I'm for the home stretch of this holy shit elimination chamber With edge cash in, Mama hypothesized that Scena became less edgy and more clean cut because, quote me, maybe his mother asked him to do that wrestle Mamia, moat tear only boss sits with his mom and watches old matches and it is it is everything. We just did another session and we did wrestle bating weekend and oh my god, god, I can't wait for you to hear some of this fun ship. After the cash

in, she was livid. And said, quote, it's not fair. Somebody should write to whomever takes care of this and require at least twenty four hours. She got so mad talking to JP that she said, quote, it shouldn't John Peter incredible, it's incredible. Oh shit, Eddie versus Ray Halloween Having ninety seven, Mama asked about w W and w W E, then asked if w w W is still around. Should be said those are

websites she has raised the Purple Guy and the other guy. She said that I guess so, so Ray is the purple guy and the other guy is Marty Martyre. Should be said, yes, Marty Guerrero, correcting her later, Marty, I'd like to see a match between Ray and Marty fucking takes place in a fucking uh uh uh in like a garage fucking freaking morning Ray and Martin happening. He had a fucking uh you know, auto body shop.

The legendary battle between Ray and Marty. The very end of the match, she asked, do you think it smells near the ring because of all the of all the estrogen or whatever? You call it? An amazing question and I do think, she said ring rather than ring ninety five Halloween ha ac tag JP's plain Flair wasn't out for the start of the match because he

was attacked backstage. Mama said, quote that should be illegal. Fighting is in the ring knock something out, so knock something out of a potential forsome doesn't appropriate, replied did? They replied, I don't recall if there was a lawsuit after that. At the end, JP kept asking your thoughts on Ric Flair. Mama kept ignoring. Eventually said, I thought you meant it was a book foughts on Rick Flair. This is everything, This is great

feating Rawland telling us so. Mama asked about seth rawlins is what the fuck did sname prentice? Name apprentice? She asked one year it took place, and JP said twenty nineteen. Mama said, no, wonder this country in the world are getting more and more disturbed. Huh Ray Mulenko, JP explained cruiser weight them. Hamma asked, it isn't lightweight, medium weight and heavyweight. She said, so many two is not making it to three. They

must be exhausted in the out. Oh my god. She was appalled by Malenko winning with his feet on the ropes and asked the the movie man saw it is about how they gage it the camera man. She also she also that's why there aren't replays like football severs Series eighty eight. Mama asked about how Vince paid the wrestlers and said, did that guy who was retiring Vince have have all that paperwork? Unbelievable. She also yd Fooji get out,

Oh God starkad Bugsy mcraw match. Mama asked, did you say did you say he's Irish? I go No, I did not, and that's the end of that one. Oh my God, Flair a Stark eighty three. Mama described Flair during his entrance almost like a hinto priest or royalty. JP said to watch for the referee gen Kinisky that Mama said, oh Polish. That might be one of the fiest tour statements in podcast history. She asked, is this Chrisinski still in the picture before JB clarified that Kinsky, not

Krasinski, is dead. JP told her about fans going to wrestling after Thanksgiving dinner, which I do, Ima, saying I'd be throwing up the turkey with something this gory sorrows, some absolute treasure w W E c W Chamber. JP explained that Paul Hayman was the head booker, and Mama said, I thought you said head booker. Oh god, yes, whaling Mercy Savio Vega. JP said Whalen looked like he was in a psych Word then asked how he could wrestle if he was in a psych ward. JP said,

I don't know. I don't know how the contracts work was used the star of the episodes, but JP was MP like her Pilman fine the last one. Mamaske JP if he ever went to a wrestling show, priest what she asked you, if you've ever been to a wrestling show with it? But you know she hadn't she I would imagine she gave a name because there used to be when I was when That's how I got into wrestling, if you

remember. So they would do they would sing it at at at Mass and they'd sing a different churches they do the singing and and your parents my parents sorry, I'm trying to gather myself, and and had one of them.

It was, uh, this one, priest was my parents knew for years, like they would you know, they used to like long long time and so at this on the Sunday Mass, because I'd go like we'd do Mass Saturday and Sunday because they'd seen it both days nauseating, and so I'd go Saturday nights and then on Sundays the priest that was a friend of the family would let me go and watch TV at the rectory and I would watch. That's where I stumbled on wrestling. That's where I stumbled on fucking you know

sat all American wrestling and started it all. So I think she was asking about fat priest and not just a priest. But anyway, what a bizarre question. She then mentioned a local scandal, then clarify, all yeah, because it was about father father Roland. She then mentioned a local scandal that and then clarified it was not with boys, but the priest was gay. Make people for the dear. I don't know what will Ryan, thank you. I'm going to bed now a buss You are right. Holy shit,

Wow, that is too. That is unfucking real. Really one of that last fucking an hour and a half truly is unbelievable stuff there, Jesus, you know that's what we do. All right, I'm gonna go, you do the next one. We feel my water and Brian apologies. We couldn't connect after WrestleMania got really hectic. But man, what service to the solar system keeping track of things like that, especially for folks who don't know about wrestle Mommia. Man, it's available into the moat tiers, so we understand

if it's too rich for some blood. But I'm telling you, I've done a couple of these now, sitting in the living room with them, and it's it is. You have no idea what she's going to say next. You have no idea what she's going to lean into and notice, and what she's not gonna notice You just can never tell with the come out of her mouth. It's it's. It's a remarkable thing because it's it's organic, man, it is, and it's as real as it gets. There's no shtick.

It's just this. It's just the most honest like thing I've ever heard in terms of trying to replicate that feeling of being being a kid and watching pro wrestling in a room where people who aren't fans are sitting there and letting you watch it, and just like weighing in or asking these questions that are so kind of like prosaic and quaint and and like almost like innocent, but but also kind of there's a little sting to the questions because it's like it's

it's a it's in some ways acknowledging that you're kind of ridiculous for watching this stuff. Oh man, all right, hugely, thank you for the pledge. We appreciated. Eric Coleman, thanks for the cake. That's what's up. Jordan Galbraith, you are absolutely goddamn correct. Thank you for the cheese. Chris k, thank you very much. Johnny C. Welcome in. Welcome to that premium taste, my friend. We we very much appreciate your support back in the saddle here. Yes, shit, it's back to Hawaii

and our boy Kai boats underground. Of course, I thank you in atonement and lapsed moments in life. He writes, Dear co chairs of Harsh cruel ass Pain, I'm writing to you today fully aware that I missed the winter mail bag, but I needed to get a letter in. It's been two damn long. I'm fully prepared to not hear this letter for a few months, and that's okay, because you beefcakes are busy enough as it is. I wanted to write you to thank you for the countless hours of entertainment that

fill my ear holes daily. I've mentioned before that I'm a postal carrier, and while it's not best practice to wear headphones while I work, I can't help it. I throw in those white ear pods and get lost in the cabanish journeys TLF provides. This particular funk journey brought me pain, happiness,

sadness, and every other emotion you can think of. It also made me laugh out loud on multiple occasions, which definitely sparks in confusion among my various customers who are retired and are just waiting for the mailman to deliver their mail. One particular moment was when I blew the butcher exclaimed that he wants a ring rat to rub deodorant under his tits. It suck and suck, cocking

of his ass. I think I always said that one now the atonement he writes, I'm a huge football fan, strictly that San Francisco forty nine ers when they were on their playoff run, I lapsed from TLF to focus on the various YouTube videos, podcasts, and all things niners. I was far behind on the lapsed funk and UTC, but when the Niners unfortunately suffered the Taylor Swift screw job. I'm back one hundred po so I'm in confession right now to die for my sins and repent to you Jack and JP. Lastly,

some lapsed moments in my life. These are a collection of moments that I've perpetuated around non TLF listeners for my own amusement. One. In Hawaii, the Department of Transportation is making a conscious effort to limit drunk driving by putting messages on those big sign boards that hang on overpasses. One says, bring a d D to your next party. I told my wife, bring your dunkin Donuts to your next party? Damn right, maybe a lage regular. What does a DD mean? Bring a DDT desert driver? Oh yeah,

she laughed. Two whichever is amazing that someone's saying that in Hawaii. Whether I don't think they're already duncans, I can't remember it right now. Whenever I see a particularly disturbing hairstyle or fashion style, I tell my wife

that is not appropriate. Yes, that's awesome. Three When my wife thanks me for something I did, I always reply, in typical Hogan fashion, thank you for Four I use my Jesse Ventura impression when we go to eat Mexican and my wife is taken to have conversation with me and call me Jesse. It helps that you like to Jimmy Changa's Yes, what are we doing to people? We are doing the right thing. Lastly, a shameful story.

The Royal Rumble is my favorite time of year, and I will watch previous rumbles to get excited and remind myself that things used to be better. So I thought that I would ask my wife this year if she wanted to watch the Rumbles with me. It could bring it was something cool for us to do, and I could show her some history this product. That is the sole reason why we still have cable to this day. A response, why would I want to do that? Sounds boring? Agree, Shaven Pain.

Thank you for ten glorious years. Thank you for journey after journey. If you are a lapsed fan and are currently going through the catalog and doubting yourself, keep ongoing it only it's better. Podcasts come and go, but the lapsed fan will always be here. Tlfol. Just stay like the cast, a role that Jerry Stiller was talking about in Zoolander. When he was yelling at his wife on the phone. We love you and we like you,

Kaypo from Hawaii. Currently seventy degrees in Sunday outside and we have people wearing bubble jackets. Ridiculous, I know. He asked, perhaps boss Man can indulge me as I pop a quarter into the lap jukebox. I don't know if you're Laps Vince singing Teddy by Austen Junior song I Come from money. Thank you. I don't have it right now, Okay, understandable. Look, it's there's a reason people ask and don't request, because it's not

always a yes, it's fine, but that that's just wonderful stuff. And you know he's talking about how you know, stick with the catalog, keep on going on. It gets better and better every now and someone will have the bright idea, as you well know, boss of saying, hey, laps Fan used to be better too. Oh yes, and I'll think it, okay, fair if that's If that's your opinion, I respect it. However, you're gonna ask yourself a question, yes, is it us that

used to be better or is it you? I agree in every sense of the term. I agree that the conversation is that I I also, you know you, I'll say this, you did take the time to comment and that steercoa chairman. Some like it hot. I think this one might be more a little more for you because it's that's a great episode sitting there for you right now, absolutely in the EP and above tier some like it hot, Marilyn Monroe and what's the rest of the people. It was our two

actually there were two. I don't remember the second guy because he was a last minute discovery. But for sure we have Mike mczerki, who has a significant role in the movie, and uh, you know he qualifies on just how fucking mh brilliant he is. I should note too, also another big thank you to Tom Antanasio for providing us and oh my good by us. By us, it's me who inherited a fucking arcade wrestleast tabletop arcade, tabletop

arcade. I mean it's also got I mean, listen, anyone who's gotten those these that this these consoles, that are these bizarre phenomenons that they've got, Like it's got like five thousand games on it. It's got like every arcade game that you could fucking possibly imagine from would from back in the day and like nineteen ninety three to have an arcade cabinet in my fucking house.

Oh my god, Oh my god. It in like a free one too, for that matter, like one that you wouldn't have to fucking actually you know, fucking uh uh uh, you know, shove coins in. But like it's got, it's got. It's got not only does that have Wrestle Fast, it has all the wrestling games. It has uh, it has Superstars, the other arcade game. It has a bunch of unknown games that I've never heard of before. It's got the original World Championship Wrestling game on

it. No, it's not, but they have a bunch of Nintendo games too. What it's got the original WrestleMania, It's got WrestleMania Challenge, Super WrestleMania for both Genesis and Super Nintendo. It's got both Royal Rumble games. It's got just a ton of fucking It's also got a bunch of like Japanese wrestling games as well. It's wild, It's it's chock full of shit.

Let alone. I mean, that's just wrestling games. It's also got all the Ninja Turtle Arcade games, the Simpsons arcade games and the Nintendo versions. It's it's loaded with shit. It's unbelievable. What lifetime goal you've had in wrestle Fest that now you have the chance to actually realize. I well, actually, it's funny you brought this up too, because uh so, finally I can now achieve the goal of eliminating all the gay from from the from

the game. And I was playing. Listen, I will admit I probably play russell Fest at least once a day. You know. It's like kind of right there in my basement. I do a rumble, you know, and and the goal is to be Hogan and eliminated every Hogan el eleven other people. I did find a loophole, especially in this free version, because

I can add people. I can add people as a second player, So when it came down to me and the last person, I just kept adding somebody, and so I ended up eliminating fifteen people in a game that has twelve royal Rumble participants. Wow, because I had like, so you did it. I did do it, but I'll say this, it wasn't legitimate. But I was glad to get the top high score for once. But I do want to try to legitimately eliminate all eleven eleven guys. It's hard.

It's very hard because there's no way to control. If there was a way that could really control how to body slam people over the top rope, it would work. But it's not an easy thing to do. Like it's not it's not like the moves have you know, moves are different like they they all change. Like you know, if you do if you grapple with somebody and are like pushing the buttons and going with the left for the joystick, it'll be a different move each time. It doesn't you know, it

doesn't matter like it's it's it's very non sensical in that way. But I do want to do it legitimately. But I did. I did get that top score for once, but I know it was I cheated. I will admit that I did cheat to get it. But it'll happen. I'll get there. I will uh tom Atchinasio, dear coach chairman. I thoroughly enjoyed the cinemat journey through Something like It Hot, especially the conversation about Wilder pushing

the envelope on sexual content with the Hayes Code still an effect. I talked Billy Wilder, mister Billy Wilder, the incredible filmmaker who will very well acquainted with episode indeed, and you know we we'll definitely be able to revisit him there. You know, there have been some I wanted to. I was very hoping to get to get the Sunset Boulevard as uh put that on the list. And I guess the the ae W character, the the black and White woman, she did all the stuff in black and white. What's her

name? I guess her stuff is directly based on, Yes, the character of Nesma of Norma Desmond. Yeah. So, so that that right there qualifies Sunset Boulevard. I taught a course on the Hayes Code about twelve years ago now, and I alway found the pre code films and the fight around the enforcement of the code fascinating, especially the mythology of the code, which made the states in Hollywood in particular, seem a lot more chase than it

really was. Really. The Code, although officially enforced from nineteen thirty four, didn't really come into full effect until nineteen thirty nine, and from the beginning, filmmakers and studio heads were focused on ways to get around it. With the rise of noirs in the late forties, there were a bunch of films that really started to push the envelope, most notably Notorious, The Lady from Shanghai and Strangers on a Train Hall all Hitchcock films, or Lady from

Shanga. I don't think it's a Hitchcock film, but Notorious and Strangers on a Trainer. In the early fifties, there was the attempts at a crackdown, with McCarthy IDEs arguing that as part of the Communist infiltration of Hollywood, they were trying to inject more depravity into our films, really all our entertainment, which would inevitably lead to moral degradation, which would in turn weaken the country during I love how of it? Like, so the communist infiltration was

all about, like destroying the morals of the country. That's what it was all about. I guess I don't get me started. It's kind of funny, like when you think about it, like you think about all the countries and how strict those communist countries are or were or whatever, and it's like you like, well, it doesn't seem like they'd want to open the censorship they'd want to close the censorship. They want to make even tighter, not

just run, you know, run rampant shit, but whatever. During this period, essentially from nineteen fifty one to nineteen fifty six, the Hayes Code was more strictly enforced whenever possible by various censorship boards, and there was also a crackdown on comics, leading to the Comic Book Code of nineteen fifty four. We did talk about that, what do we talk about that? Maybe with Batman with that return, I think so, I talked about it with

them. With American films, more tightly controlled print exploded, especially pulp fiction novels and magazines, eventually leading to the release of the first Playboy in December nineteen fifty three, which we did talk about with some like it hot. While these types of publications had done increasingly well since the late nineteen twenties, the early fifties saw a marked rise in sales as Americans turned to print to

provide more titillating stories images a few examples attached. By mid fifties, foreign films not restricted by the Hayes Code started garnering big box office receipts, even with the limited releases, and the studios decided to push back, culminating with Jane Mansfield in The Girl Can't Help It in nineteen fifty six, which essentially

was a one hundred minute showcase of Mansfield's considerable cleavage. Despite bad reviews, The Girl Can't Help It was a hit and there was no going back, and studios rushed to greenlight movies that skirted the code or in some cases just outright ignorore as for Some Like It Hot. Wilder, who had worked in the completely uncensored Weimar Republic, had always fought to get as much innuendo and skin in his pictures as possible, believing strongly that americans puritanical ideas of sex

were not only absurd but unhealthy. Some Like It Hot was the type of movie Wylder had tried to get past studio sensors for years, to no avail. As soon as it became clear the studios had decided to effectively ignore the code, Wilder jumped on the Champs to make a big budget production for the

time that really took aim at what he considered completely fictional American morals. The studios pushed to set the film in the nineteen twenties, because of the nineteen twenties reputation for having loose morals during Prohibition and the fact that it would take place in the pre code era. If the sensors pushed back, they would argue they were telling a pre code story. Look at that, and that's

funny. Oh, we're basically making a pre code movie that. Look but no, see, see, it's taking place as a commentary right on pre code morals and the lack of so we're just kind of you know, geez see, it's very moral in its immorality. Say that again, a point studio lawyers actually used when Kansas initially refused to show the film. At the same Wilder's sometimes rival Hitchcock had begun pre production on his sexually charged Cold War

thriller north By Northwest. Oh God, please somebody find me, get me a reason? Is that right? Oh? I would love to dissect north By Northwest. Wilder and Hitchcock had a strange relationship. Both men were foreign filmmakers who came up in the nineteen twenties, Both were disciples of Ernest Lubitch,

and both had had unbelievable success in the States. But they didn't really know each other, and although they were never outwardly hostile, they were incredibly competitive, especially after Sunset Boulevard, when critics began crediting Wilder for out hitchcocking

Hitchcock. Anyway, the making of Hot and north By Northwest, Wilder and Hitchcock both were trying to include as much sexual content as they could reasonably get away with, and rumor has it they were actually trying to outdo the other on this front. Thanks to Marilyn Monroe and the boat scene, Wilder won this battle out right. North By Northwest doesn't fuck around when it comes telling a very adult story, but it doesn't have anything like the boat sex scene.

Some like it. Hot Hot also was critically and commercially a much bigger hit than north By Northwest. Interestingly enough, the boat scene in HoTT is credited for leading directly to the shower scene in Psycho and the Trevie Fountain scene in La dolce Vita. With Boat, Hitchcock and Fellini determined to go further than Wilder to great box office and critical success, the hit hotchkick Denny Hudge.

The Hitchcock Wilder rivalry, if it can be called, that ended in nineteen sixty when Hitchcock broke the ice after seeing the Apartment, writing Wilder to express his admiration for the film. Anyway, this is a very long winded way of saying that while every one in the movie business was careful with how much skin slash sexual sexualized content they showed between nineteen thirty five to fifty five, the Code was never quite as stingents as it's made out to be now.

Wilder in Hitchcock especially hated it because they felt it was completely hypocritical to what American society was like during the time. Sorry, this is so ridiculously long. Started with the idea of throwing in a bit of context and ended up with this monstrosity. Please feel free to ignore all of it. Oh it's good stuff. There no way I love about that anything. I was surprising to you in there. Yeah, I didn't know about the Hitchcock Wilder

rivalry. I'd also didn't really, I mean, because yeah, look, look I took I took my fair share of history of you know, media classes and whatever in college, and everyone talked about the fucking the Code like it was like it was the law, Like it wasn't even a code. It was like the law. So it's interesting to hear that it really wasn't and that that's kind of a more modern take on questions. Yeah, you know, and and I mean, listen the fucking it really makes sense that

to hear them, to hear Hitchcock. I mean, have you seen north By Northwest? A great movie? And I just watched it again recently, and it's very true, like there is a lot of like there's a lot of of of a really extreme sexual innuendo and it's uh, I don't want to spoil anything, so hopefully we'll be able to go to watch it's wonderful, wonderful reason. I don't have a reason yet. Yeah, but solar system activating, get on it. Fine, give me, give me north

By Northwest. Please tell them about another great letter. On a recent episode of Under the Cinemat, I don't remember what movie this was, but remember we were talking about filming a novel page by page. Yeah, yeah, that was that was probably it was recent. It was one of the one of the Bond films. It might have been Casino Royale actually might have been. I feel like playing around with this idea that you know, in a

Netflix world where you can do forty projects, one hundred hour projects. Why hasn't someone taken a classic novel and tried to represent every page of said novel on the screen as opposed to trying to, you know, sum it all up at an hour and a half. And Tom did some research. J your co chairman. I've been thinking a lot about Jack's idea of filming a novel page by page, something obviously easter to do as a TV series,

but readily really definitely conceptually more interesting as a film. We've talked about experiential experimental films before that you do in real time where the audience sleeps at the same time the characters on screen sleep, and when the characters wake up at six am or whatever, the film continues whether the audience, who has slept in the theater is up or not. Jack's idea is obviously much more palatable,

but similar in theory. As Jack pointed out, Michael Winterbottom's adaptation of Tristram Shandy is a great example of trying to adhere to themes of a book that is Jack noted as near impossible to film. Pete Anderson's in Here Advice is page by page for a while and then loses the thread and kind of becomes a mess. To Kill a Mockingbird and Green Mile are often cited as

the most accurate adaptations of all times. Stephen King was particularly fond of Green Mile, but neither is still anything close to what you are talking about. The two projects that come to mind that are in this realm but aren't based on books is Charlie Kaufman's Senectady, New York. I remember hearing about it,

but it never saw it. And Iyah Krassamski's deau Cinema Senectai New York features a theater director using his Arthur Fellowship to create a piece of brutalist realism where he tries to recreate all the pain of his real life at an experimental theater piece. Kind of a depiction of what might happen if a director actually tried to adapt a specially difficult material page by page. Interesting, definitely worth your time if you haven't seen it it allth Admittedly it tends to elicit fairly

strong opinions. Ilia Krasamsky's dau Cinema project began in two thousand and seven as a feature attempting to be the most realistic depiction of the post Stalinist Soviet Union ever made, eventually morphed into multiple films and other art pieces meant to use film to accurately provide a living memorial, essentially a real reenactment of Soviet life.

As absurd as that sounds, Wow, this is getting there. GQ visited the set of DAU in twenty eleven and wrote about the insanity that was going on there even then, as the film had evolved into a really occult even at that point. The first films to come out of DAU didn't premiere until nine years later at the Berlinale, right before the pandemic. I have watched most of the films, and it might be close to what you'd get if you tried page by page, something like Thomas Pinson's V or maybe Caz's

Sometimes a Great Nation. I don't know. The whole thing is utterly insane, and the movies themselves are a mixed bag. There was a real brilliance and a few of them, and self indulgent shite in others. It's hard to get your head around. But thought, as you were masters of the postmodern uber modern arts, you might get a kick out of exploring it a bit. Definitely nothing. I didn't know Uber was doing modern arts now instead of just all yeah, as long as as long as you know they're not

responsible for your car, that's true. Definitely nothing else quite like DAU and the history of Cinema. Here's the official link to DAU World, and I've also attached the gqu article which you made run across before I got to check these out. This is fucking dangerous. The something that I'll come back a changed man. Yes, I think so. DAU Cinema, Wow, all

the conclusion. I'd like Jack's idea. There's definitely something there. Picking the right book that could attract the financing is an interesting puzzle in itself, but definitely fascinating to consider. Thanks for everything, as usual, especially the food for thought you've been shoving down our gullets in the first few months of the TLFX celebration. Gonna be a banner year already, is yours and Cinamania Tom exactly true. The book is Gulliver's Travels. If you ask me, that's

the book, page by page. Yeah, man. Brian Ferriss, always such a strong supporter, sends us some cake and says heading to Saudi Thursday. I just found out about it yesterday. Salute. I think he's back. I watched the crappy pl Saturday, but somehow with my CoA chairs, describing the action always makes it sound a couple of stars better. In my book, wife is less than thrilled. I'm going, and honestly so am I. But this dropping tonight was just what I needed. I'll be back

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in Philly. That's what this money's for, you know, it's it's a special thing, and long may it continue. Let's see this one here from Sean and we're gonna get this to the boss here. It's mail backtime bosses. You know. Oh you're damn right, Spring twenty twenty four. Go ahead. It's a cliche and joke these days to say men will do anything except go to therapy. Well, wrestling is my therapy, and that fucking

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TLF by happenstance during the Ben Wah tragedy Deep Dive. I was a funeral director at the time and listened for hours while driving around the city picking up bodies. A few months later, as I was getting back into being an active part of wrestling by becoming a manager and commentator, safely away from any more shots to the head, cabana man Dan and I were in the locker room laughing and talking about uncooked, uncut, uncooked and uncensored. It's raw.

And now, seven years later, as I do commentary and occasionally agent matches for Spartan Pro Wrestling, sometimes I sometimes have to remind our students that while we work our asses off and should be proud of what we do, never forget that wrestling is still fake fighting ye bullshit amazing and should be taken

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wrestling podcast has the fucking balls to do. I know, I wish, like many other members of the Solar System do. I'm sure that we could thank you more, but a few months at a time donating on Patreon is all I can do besides this email. So thank you, Salute you, sir, Scott Scott Resner. That's correct. Fuck it, let's go all right, get in on that circle, do the right thing. Will went

through up our best pal makes it great point. Oh boy. The Vince McMahon story would need to be told in a TV series with multiple actors of different ages taking on the role, similar to the Crown and for current Vince he's putting forward ray Wise. Oh, it's a good one. I don't know what ray Wise do. I Yeah, he's good. He's a great, great actor. I still god just like him in some way. He's got a lot, he's got like the same pampadour hair. Yeah, yeah,

I still think I still stay with with with Brolin. I think Brolin would be the fucking money one. But no, But how about this notion of different vinces different I do like that for different eras. For sure, that's a great idea. I can see a team that you remember that that fucking uh oh god, I can't think of the goddamn guy. He's a give me anything to go on here, pal, I know he's Uh, he's a legendary singer, a weird, weird voice. Oh my god,

this is good for what this person? This the reason that they did a movie about him that was played by different actors of different genders as well. Yeah, the fuck uh Bob Dylan, Bob Dylan. Jesus, So they did a movie about Bob Dylan different actors for different points of his life.

Yeah, and like different, Like it's not a real accurate it's called I'm not there it's not a completely accurate, like it's more thematically accurate of a biopic, like yeah, they say six right, they different they do, like different different eras of his life, different actors play him, Like even Kate planned Chett plays him at one point. Yeah, I think that'd be totally So that's a great idea for Vince. Yeah, because that's the thing.

He's totally different people. I mean, he probably has the same deep inner monologue, but I mean the Vince that's like sitting at his desk doing interviews in nineteen eighty five about this thing being on NBC and how they actually, you know, take it, take it as seriously as any scripted drama and Dick eversol vouching for him, and he's sort of like, you know, the one that was on David Letterman New Years and eighty four doing the

New Year's Baby thing. I remember we looked at that. That's a different Vince, the one that's half like cup salesman and half wrestling TV announcer.

Yes, still trying to win his father's favor kind of being let in the front door of the business, versus the Vince that was going to East Carolina and trying to like make his make his way in the world independent of pro wrestling, perhaps, I mean especially one of Matt Linda fascinating if you look, I mean especially you know Ray Wise in Twin Peaks, m specifically the movie he is so fucking creepy, and he is so horrifying in Fire Walk

with Me that it would be he would be great as like as as creepy Vince, you know, as as as perverted, as as the diabolical Vince that we have been exposed to in recent months. Fascinating. Yep, so he would be. He would be the final boss one. Oh yeah, I was thinking Richard Lewis before he died, Poor Richard Lewis. I just finished watching Finish, Yes I did. I did, like something, isn't it? It was? It was, it was great. I loved it.

I love yeah, Yeah, I mean I there's you know whenever they have whenever, like I love that they that they sparingly had Jerry Seinfeld in the series, like just very minimal, which is great because the times that

he is there, it's so fucking money. Yeah, it's like rock coming back to right right, Like the exchanges they have there's such like you can just the the it would be like, you know, like the two of us doing a movie scene, like if I was doing a whole if if one of us is doing a show, and then we just had a couple of guest appearances and just said just do whatever, and like we just rambly, you know, ramble on about weird shit and talk about King of the

Ring ninety three and you know, and and bizarre puns and shit like that's it. And and they're talking about the you know, if she had a beard but she shaved it. Yeah, right, Like it's like, what do you think about in the courtroom? And this is it? This is what he fucking thinks about in the courtroom the whole time about the beard? Is it rabbinical? Very rabbinical. Ah, we're going to miss that show.

That was the last gasp that right there of its kind. We want to thank a new patron by the name of the King of connelingis the master of Dictionary, the Duke of Doggie style Morgism, than the schism Dick the

cock Johnson. We'll take it right in the wallet. Something that's available to MOAT tier members that's occasional but very special that we decide only to share with them is the call mm hm. When we find out about someone of prominence in wrestling business passing away, as any longtime listener to the show now is our tradition between us is to make the call to see who can be the first to call the other to make the announcement. And of course the call

is simply the name of the dearly departed. We decided why not, you know, if if if the moat tear is going to be, you know, closer to the heart of the cast, in the heart of the co chair, why not share with that exclusive company that this idea. And when Only Anderson passed away, dig I was able to get Boss you know on the horn to record his immediate reaction just to the name Only Anderson, but also the passing of Virgil. Oh yes, and the reaction to the Virgil

news was huge and said in motion. Of course, the tribute shows that we did that. You're going to hear some pieces of feedback from here at a moment. But folks like Vernon pointing out this makes only and Virgil I found out via the call. Okay, folks are finding out about this. Yeah, yes, our Patreon, Yes, that's how lapps. They are Oh, they find out on our Patreon before they find out anywhere else that Virgil died. Austin writes, this is becoming my preferred way of finding out

about wrestler deaths. It's amazing, Zach writes. When I hear these, I almost feel like the moats tier, the mote tears. Existence is killing people. Jesus, doctor Wiz. Pip, thanks for the increase in pledge. We appreciate it. Mark Sullivan, welcome into the en circle. My friend, Ian Forsyth, thanks for the cake. Mack mud Almarty, thank you very much, my friend for the pledge. Scott Sudokof great to see him in Philadelphia. Oh yeah, I appreciate the recent bump up and pledge.

My man, thanks very much. Timothy Wiss, thank you very much for the cake. Mike points out we did the Hogan thing that. Not only did the Madison Square Garden program the night he defeated the Aron Chiek mention Hogan's blasty connection, but so did Backlan when endorsing Hogan, saying Hogan told me he's not running around with Blassy anymore. We talked about how wow,

last I've seen him on one of the double oh seven episodes. Carlos Stallion rights after watching Doctor No again for the first time since I was a kid when I rented all the Bond movies in Beta Max in the eighties. I've got two takeaways. One, Double O seven has desires, Yes, Two Double O seven has needs. That's all true, pretty well established. Yes,

absolutely definitely. I think Double O seven it's very It's a very accurate statement to say he has desires, and I think it's an equally accurate statement to say that he has needs, and he will fulfill both desires. Every every single movie he seems to he will fulfill desire and necessity to his heart looking at what he wants, Yes, and what he wants melts before him. That's right, very simile. Pushy our pal Moondog Murray writes the following,

Terry Funk Forever here, co Chairs. I want to start by thanking you for reading my email about the fak a w a show I wrestled on. Actually had another member of the Solar System reach out to me about that. I recently celebrated three years and two hundred matches wrestled in the Midwest, California and Texas. Very cool. Anyways, I just want to thank you both for going in depth that you always do in these journeys. However,

there was something special about the Lapsed Funk Journey. Every episode I listen to while on the way to shows I was working, and on the way home, each layer of terror you both noticed, whether it was watching his matches or listening to his promos and shoot interviews, helped me better understand pro wrestling.

Yes, miss and accomplished. Fuck It. Lapsed Funk Journey, I feel has made me better understand my role and gave me ideas on how to sell, how to do promos, how to work, and most importantly, how to make my and it looked like a monster in the ring, the bashful babyface. The appreciation of fans and understanding there's no us without them. You'd be surprised how many wrestlers on the gudias and even worse promoters forget that.

Now I approach fans and mingle with them with the intention of connecting with them, make them feel like I'm their guy fighting for them in there as well as sell some gimmicks. That was another thing I picked up on with Terry during the journey was him connecting enough with the people, but also being able to make money off those same people merchant ticket wise. Yeah, it's so how it should be. Yeah, right, yep. You don't have

to you don't have to trick people into supporting you financially. You just have to deliver for them. It's very simple. There's no there's no voodoo involved. You just deliver and they're more than happy to pay. And if they're not, then you know, fuck them, right, I mean, they're they're going to float away eventually anyway. You can't concern yourself with them.

And yeah, that's that's what Terry Funk's career stands and testament to. We just read an email a little bit before in this very show about how much of that autograph meant to that guy. Right, it's exactly that's Terry Funk. Okay, you can get autographs from anybody, but you not going to remember it like you did at Terry funk autograph. Because he understood every single

dimension of being a pro wrestler in out of the ring. He knew how to be a pro wrestler twenty four to seven in a way where he can look in the camera and say, I live the way I want to live now without having a kiss Fince's ass as he told Dark Side of the Ring and the Unheard podcast that we help with amazing. When it came time for me to listen to the final episode, I was on my way to a show in the Green Bay, Wisconsin area. You were both watching Terry's actual

last match. When I heard the opening chords to Desperado and hearing you both describers we were seeing, I broke down and cried because I knew the long lapsed Funk journey was just about over. It was thanks to this journey I became an even bigger Terry Funk fan, and I learned so much listening to it. Knowing wrestling is now without someone of his Staturette crushed me. I couldn't help it be sad. However, it also lit a fire under me and I went on to have a pretty fun match. I walked in the

match with the Funker in the back of my mind. When it came to giving and selling, I worked with a VET who was very giving himself and even out of his way to change the finish from him going over to me going over instead. In an Indian wrestling world full of selfish, never was

vet's clutching out of their spots and these local feds. There's guys like my opponent that night, Joey Avalon. There's guys like Vic Capri, who recently started slowing down after twenty five years and had one of his last matches at my home promotion, giving his top student most of the match before finally putting him over clean her overclean. There are vets who are like Terry Funk when it comes to giving Thinking about those vets that look out over the newer guys

like myself was another reason I cried hearing Desperado one last time. Because Justice Wrestling is worse without the Funker. It'll be worse without them as well. I hope to follow on theirs and Funk's footsteps when it comes to giving back. Finally, I'll end with this while listeners piss and moan about the length of these journeys you both do. I always hate when they have to end. That's right. The ending to the lapsed Funk hurt the worst, but

it hurts so good. That is what makes TLF that fucking cast. That is why TLF will always remain supreme over any other wrestling podcast out there. Thank you Moon. Doug Murray, well, thank you sir. Keep up the good work and glad to be a wind at your sales. Brett Hamilton, thanks for the cake man. Welcome in. We appreciate the pledge. JF Welcome in. Very good stuff. Dylan wants us to know why Putsky

bladed. He talked about this and that Genuary twenty fourth, nineteen eighty four show that we did Hogan winning the title was twenty fourth, Right Yeah, Jenner, thirty fourth, nineteen eighty four, according to my sources, Dylan writes on Patreon, which, by the way, is another reason to subscribe to the Patreon because of the banter oh yeah comments under the show files.

The ad free versions of our show, by the way, just amazingly hilarious and insightful and helpful background contexts, comments, witticisms from the best listenership and podcasting. According to my sources, this is exactly what happened. Dylan writes, Putsky was looking out at the house in Madison Square Garden with Howard Finkel, and while it was mostly full, he noticed some scattered patches of empty

red seats. So we told Fink do it, at which time Fink on on a special PA mic that addressed not on the inside but the outside of the garden. Fink's voice rang out in the streets of New York announcing attention, ladies and gentlemen, Ivan Putski will be gouging his forehead with a tiny sharp piece of metal at tonight's show. People with an earshot casually going about their business then promptly decided to change their plans for the evening and clicked those

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We always appreciate your support, buddy, Thanks very much. A great question from Ali, he writes, Dear Jack and JP, do you think Rihea Ripley is coming for rips Heat? And he put a picture rip them from Noel's Boy and then he wrote brother, that's the whole email. Josh Goder, who's ripping brother? What Corey and Winnipeg makes a good point because Hogan's mom, Ruth Bolea, is of course in the locker room before he

beat Cheek along with his dad on the interview. Yes, yes, and we thought it was the first time we'd ever seen her in the last time. He's a small correction. This would not be Hogan's mom's only appearance. That's inappropriate. She had a pivotal role in the Mother's Day party in the first ever Saturday Night's main event. For the record, Blass, he steals that segment with his mother Laura. Isn't she Beota Fall? That's a good, good call, Mike Bethy, thanks very much for the plage. We

appreciate the support. Will Winter Boss writes the best t LEF episodes with the ones where I come out feeling nothing but shame and embarrassment for your pathetic clowns. This is almost as bad as Jack going to an event where Jericho and Leader were reading to school children. Absolutely pathetic. Can't wait for John sorrow line at Pro Wrestling teas the attribute to Virgil as we went through with your dad and others. Yes, okay, what's this here? Trevor sent us

screen grab. He writes, listening to the brilliant Virgil tribute, I felt the urge to share the sad news of his passing with my dad. See the attachment, and it's a text Virgil died. Reply, remind me who's Virgil and that has had a picture of Virgil And then all the dad says is, oh, okay, that's the end. Steve writes, Papa Sorrow's description of what it's like to be a parent of a wrestling fan is my mother and grandparents rolled in a one. Condolences for the end of the original

laps Icon Virgil of course to the Solar members. Yeah, he really nailed it on that one. Yep, Timothy Wise, thanks for the increase in pledge. We appreciate the support. Christopherdamar's long time support. Are going all sums up to you know, I need to support my child, but how do I support my child? It's exactly a what comes through and what he said, Yeah, it's perfect. It was like exactly what all dads think, Yeah, when they're not wrestling fans and their kids get into it.

Poll cautiously writes on Patreon, I'm ready to do this affair, quoting who who but Mike Virgil Jones. I'm ready to do this affair. I forget there. It is to this affair. Neil writes. Virgil's best era was as a job or to the Stars from ninety two to ninety three, after his initial post faded. He had the responsibility of putting guys over who were

on their way up the card. It seemed like every wrestler who came in had to get by Virgil first on their way to the bigger and better things Yo Kuzuna, Raiser, Ramone, Dooink Nails, Lex Lugret, et cetera. Verge would get some jabs in and a few hope spots before getting beaten soundly. Was a good role for him, and he still had the crowd behind him, even though the outcome is obvious. What do you think, boss, was that Virgil more valuable to the company than the ninety one million

dollars champions valuable? Yeah? Probably? Hmmm, you know, because like, I mean, what value did he actually bring? He? I mean, he wasn't necessarily considered a draw. In ninety one was he I mean, he was no, he was just a you know, it was he was the bonus sentimental thing, right. It was exactly you know, like you don't you don't, you don't go to see him, but you know he he You're happy that he's there and you and you want to see you know, it's like, okay, I'll also get to see this as well.

And so yeah, I can see that in a way, letting up Sid for a big money made event against Hogan, you could probably argue that that produced more money than his you know, absolutely, and so ninety two yeah, but be it. You know that ninety two, ninety three run for sure he was, you know, and the way he puts over Yokozuna and at Survivor series ninety two, oh yeah, after you know, when he gives he gives Brett Hard a warning about it, I think it's pretty

fucking money. I would definitely say he was more valuable in that regard because he he made guys seem credible, you know, comment for everybody. Now, Yeah, yep, Virgil was the Nails to me, he killed nail. Nails killed him to it that the SummerSlam nails points sound Yoko Razor yep, I don't remember a razor, but I wouldn't doubt that it happened. Doink, I remember Doink went over him on Superstars. I think he also writes, does kneel? If Virgil had the second identity, which you kept

a secret? Is that why he was so anxious about getting a check at the bachelor party? Oh? That revelation is to me everything you need to know about what what Virgil was all about. A bank has a basic screening process when you open an account to look for malfeasans. While the criteria is usually pretty loose, if you have a history of overdrafts, suspicious behavior, or have used a bank in the past and connection with the crime, they'll

flag you. To cash a check, you usually just need a driver's license, maybe a utility bill, or something to verify your address. It's a quick transaction. In those cases, the bank is mostly concerned about if issuer is good for the cash. But that's an interesting point. Maybe Virgil didn't like banks. I'm sure. I'm sure he was freaked out by it, you know, wasn't he has as a shady pass that he was hiding he wanted to cash the thing. I'm not sure he was looking to avoid a

bank. I just think he just wanted to cash on hand as opposed to Yeah, well, I mean because that's the thing. You know, what's the if he goes to the bank and you gave him a bad check, He's not going to anything for that. That's true. Man, You're never going to You're never going to respond, right, and you're never going to respond to an email after that. Again, he knows that. Wow, that's a great point. That's a great point. We'd already paid him up

front a bit, so it's not like he made nothing. But uh, you know, if we did that to him, But that's a good that's I didn't think of that actually, And that tells you how uh, how unprepared I am for the Valley of the Carnes. Oh they're they're they're ready for anything. They're they're ready for nothing. Do you want a Tombstone to qualify? Uh? Sure. Because we were wondering why Virgil was called curly Bill in w CW at the hand Okay and Hull, Cogan reminds that curly

Bill is a villain from Tombstone played by Powers Booth. Interesting, I'm not sure if that was the reference but if Nash was around, who knows, Yes, I believe that I would imagine that it is. Dusty was around too, Yeah, and and Kevin Sullivan. But you can buy that carle a bill in Tombstone. Eventually you've seen toomtone, buddy, you've seen You've seen Tombstone. No. Uh oh, well, I guess he's not going to respond, Chris writes Virgil at Willing Casino. That's a good setup.

Can confirm Virgil would hang out at Wheeling Island Casino in West Virginia. I live at about an hour south of Wheeling. My wife and I went to the casino for a rare night out in December twenty twenty one. At some point I went to get something out of the car for my wife, and when I came back in the front door, Virgil was standing there talking to the security guard. He was leaning on the guard's a little stand, like he'd been there for a while. Our eyes met and he said, how

you doing, brother? Yeah, it's me. At a moment where I thought maybe I should stop and say hi or ask for a picture, but instead I just smiled and kept walking. I couldn't figure out why Virgil would

be hanging out in the front door of a casino in West Virginia. Is so was Curly Bill the only time Virgil had a role where he wasn't based on somebody else, like in the way that he was Mike Jones in WW for a little while, Okay, soul Train Jones whatever his alright, sol Train Jones about them as the job are on Superstars and the Paul and Roof

match we watched already forgot what they called him was luscious or something. But I should say his own yeah, right, But but I should say though his own he's out of the out of the main Listen, he's not known for that stuff as much as he's known for being Virgil Vincent. And I would say his third most famous is probably Curly Bill, whatever he did in w CW mainstream TV. Him Shane too, all right, Shane as well?

Right, he's Shane for so okay, So out of his four main characters on on real television, only one was named after a fictional person as opposed to a play on strange existence. It seriously is like I'm a walking, living, breathing inside joke, Like like I remember asking him that too, if it bothered him like that. He that his only notable gimmicks were as plays off other people's names. Ah nah, he would never It was

that he was fine. He was down with he said, na A part of the well I was hanging with, I was hanging with, I was hanging with with with Hulk, Hogan and nWo. I was part of them. Big Okay, you're still a joke. No no, no, no, no no, yeah, stop right there. I couldn't figure out what Virgil would be hanging out at the front door of a casino in West Virginia. I had no idea until your tribute show last week that he lived in Pittsburgh, which is only an hour from Wheeling. Hmmm. I walked through

the casino in kind of a daze until I found my wife. She asked if something was wrong, and I said, yeah, I think I just saw Virgil. Her response, who a Declan molloy, Thanks very much for the pledge. We deeply appreciate your support on Patreon. Same to you, Jamie Appleby. Thanks for increasing your pledge amount as a vote of confidence. Heith Harshman, Thank you, Eric Holeman, Thank you, Andrew Trudeau, thank you, Adam Tucker, thank you McLay mark, Thank you so very

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Hulk Coggin days. Having no Internet access since I was only eight years old at the time, I was shocked at how much the Philadelphia crowd was booing my hero John Cena. Wow. To me, to be was for kids only, since all my friends at school watched it and no adult I knew did at least admitted to watching it. It confused my little mind how grown men could take a show that had such goofy characters like Hornswoggle and Santina Morella. So seriously and so true, so true, even a kid knows it's

yeahlish exactly. The kid looks at adults like, what's wrong with you guys? Exactly? Eight year old me would be horrified to learn that I would turn into that same annoying fan years later. No matter what people say about the year, I will always have my nostalgia for two thousand and seven to twenty ten. W w E amazing. I still remember when a punk beat scene at night of Champions twenty thirteen, I think it was I went to the show and these kids were crying that John Cena lost, balling their lies

out and I thought everyone had moved on from taking matches that seriously. I didn't appreciate that. The new generation, you know, kids are a little bit different. They I can see that they expect something. I guess they were never die with one guy like that. I thought that was over after uh, I guess after Brett kind of I thought I told myself it was over and that well, certainly the top baby Face had their supporters. There wouldn't be children crying if Stone Cold lost the belt, you know, but

or the Rock lost the belt. But here John Cena HadAM in a different, unique way. Jeff right to the Boss's Belgium story is either a great A twenty four movie or a great, a great Wes Anderson movie. I'm not Jeff Witch. Yes, maybe maybe maybe Wes Anderson doing an A twenty four movie something like that. Right, that's that's actually excellent. I could totally see that being like the premise for the movie trying to protect the rabbit, yep, awkward light coming off a breakup, yep. Yeah, it's

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co chairs. I needed the right level of motivation in order to sit down and type out this beast, and I think I'm finally ready. I've written several times over the last decade, but I don't know that I ever told the story of how I became a fan not only a fake fighting, but of TLF. I was born in eighty five. I remember seeing Ultimate Warrior on an episode of Superstars, but I could never remember what time it

was on. I know that feeling or what channel this must have been about the time I got my VHS copy of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles two Secret of Views, because I distinctly remember the trailer for Suburban Commando playing before the movie. My aunt had recorded Gremlins to you know the new batch I do off of HBO for me, and this version had the Hogan cameo. Either the Suburban Commando preview or the Gremlins two cameo were my first taste of hul Camania.

Fast forward a little and I have a friend that has this yellow Hulk Hogan suitcase. So the attached the photo is that there? Do you see it? I want to let me take a look here sounds amazing. This sucker was loaded with Hasbros. Hasbros on the go, the most portable way to take a five star Classic to whatever family function, recess or car right, et cetera you could think of. Over the next few years, I got to where you couldn't add another one to the case. For some reason,

the Mounty and Texas Tornado were always the ones I grabbed first. Like so many others, As the New Generation era took over and the Hasbros disappeared, my fandom was put on hold until about sixth grade. Look at that beauty ninety seven. Let me see, wow, look at that? Look at that? I could I could have whatever I could have used that. That's a toy carrier, is what that is. I kind of you know, that's what It looks a little familiar. I wonder if I had that.

Oh I'd be jealous. Yeah, I think I had it. The only way it got random shit and like I wasn't like you know, like it would be a thing where it wasn't instant gratification. Like I'd beg my parents for something on the catalog and I'd get it sometimes, but it wouldn't come until like six months later. Right, Well, that was those are the days when it was like it took forever for for shit to ship. Absolutely, when I finally got it, it was sort of like this faded

memory. It wasn't like, oh, like you remember when you get something, I don't remember getting it, so I remember having it either. It's very strange, you know, like the fucking when I see it, I recognize it. Yeah, like you know, today you get ship that is you know it comes. You know, obviously Amazon you get it within two days. But I remember as a kid it was like it was weeks to months at least. It seemed like months before something would get and we didn't

have any way to check the tracking. We were the better for it, let me tell you. Because as agonizing as it would be to wonder if it's ever coming in, or if they got my order or where is it. As agonizing as that is, especially considering the prime era we live in now, I got to tell you it made it four thousand times sweeter the day it came, you know, that's the thing. The day it came

was And this isn't this isn't contradiction what I just said. I understand this in terms of not remembering getting it because I felt like what would happen, honestly is the package would come in and I wasn't home, and it would be like open for me, and I'd find it there presented. I wouldn't retrieve it from the porch, you know what I mean, like that it

would just suddenly be in the house. Right. It was just something right right, because it was it was very strange to get a package, so people didn't just like you know, stack them up in the sun porch or whatever or the mud room and just wait for you to come and open them yourself. You know, it would be opened immediately because what the fuck is this thing on my doorslap? Like two packages a year, like exactly, and man, oh man, god, I just I feel so bad for

people, for generations that are going to get that experience. Yeah you should, you should. I mean you know now it's now there's no patience. It's instant gratification to Ralphie's dad, right, and like it's that yeah, yeah, exactly gone. Exactly, it's gone. The feeling that we worked ourselves out of because we wanted it easier. It's our fault. We wanted

it easier. We wanted it easier. Listen, we have the greatest experiences and we created the worst experiences because as kids we loathed the long waits. Well that's the thing. We lose the long way. We innovate ways and right, so we need to create ways that I don't have to loathe waiting. I need it now. And then all we end up doing is robbing the next generation of something magical. And ourselves well well ourselves, but we're

old enough now we don't care. It's the height, it's the height of selfishness, you know, it's I don't want to have to wait for anything. So therefore, the kids of my generation, you know, the kids behind me, are never going to get the feeling of And now kids don't even care about you. They want electronics. Meanwhile, I'm playing with Hasbros. It's is so fucked up. Mm, it's life. You know, what did you expect? I guess you're right. What do you think?

You just picked a nice, happy existence? No, come on, you know better than that. Got Barry Wyndham glue right there? Yeah? Does he still do a good what is the power slam? He does? He does a great spinebuster, absolutely phenomenal spinebuster. Can pick him up like nobody's business here. He's got Scott Steiner and he's gonna drop him boom beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, he can do a great cutter as well. It's really

he's he is a very versatile rest real action figure. So okay, Fallow of ninety seven A buddy bought the latest copy of WW magazine to school Owen. Hart's head was stuck on the wall of a like a damn buck. I was immediately hooked again. Do you remember that one? I do? I do? It's a Owen season, I think is what the you're amazing thing was exactly what oh god, this fucking look at that Owen's Look at

Owen's face. Yeah, idiot, oh, poor dead bastard. All right, the time, my fan, This time, my fandom ran until about the summer of two thousand and six. I went to WrestleMania twenty two in Chicago. Big time, Yes it was. It was the big time and the big time so much larger than life, so so much larger. Then it's like the only time they fucking used an older song wrestle you know, like it was an eighties song they fucking did big time, like weird.

I mean it doesn't make any sense, but I loved I did. I liked it so I could that I could that I can email or text uh uh did and say, hey, guess what the Wrestmania theme is this year. It's sucking Peter Gabriel's Big Time. You must love that. No, yeah, absolutely introduced that song to me. Actually in college, I didn't. I wasn't as familiar with the only Peter Gabriel song I knew before college was in the Uh no, no, that's uh, that's that's that's uh

Phil Collins. But Peter Gabriel, I knew, uh Steam, I knew Steam. I remember, I remember I watched the fucking first uh, the debut of of the music video for Steam Amazing. It was so great. Dean, There's no way that's the first time in the history show that I mistook Peter Gabriel for Phil Collins. I don't know if we ever talked about I would imagine that we maybe did it at the time when we did wrest May twenty two, but I don't think we've talked about Peter Gabriel that much

on the show. Maybe if we can do uh maybe I under the cinemat, I we can do uh uh the lastentation of Christ. Wow, really because he did the score for that, which is fucking unreal, just fucking only Martin Scorsese would do a movie about the life and death of Jesus Christ and have Peter Gabriel do the score. It will do the Miami Vice trailer. There we go and have uh and then and have Harvey Kaite Harvey Kayitel played Judas Iscariot. Fucking that's that's that's a movie, Judas bro there,

it's a big time. I followed the Vince mcman versus God and HBK fewed because it's how ridiculous it was. A few weeks after the mains, I went to a Raw SmackDown super show in Saint Louis. Carlito was my guy and I was rocking one of his fake wigs with a do you Spit or Swallow shirt in a second row. But something was starting to feel different after going to WrestleMania and knowing the product was kind of shit at the point anyway, it didn't feel like there was anything left to accomplish as a fan.

My viewership was hit and miss. After the Ben Wat tragedy, I totally quit watching for a long time, the entire punk era, the scene of rock program all the way until my friend suggested I give this podcast on Wrestle's Own a try because quote they talked to Meltzer and one of the guys who does a decent McMahon impression. I've worn several hats in my professional career after graduating from college. When I began listening to t LF, I was a

territory sales brother. What are you selling out territories? Dude? What do you mean Terry what? Terrytown? Brother? What selling? What do you mean selling? What? Selling tickets to or selling? You're gonna sell a leg drop, right, dude, Exactly. You're not trying to say you sell something else. You're gonna You're gonna manage your sales, your sale of the leg drop, right dude? In Hershey, Brother, you're gonna sell the leg drop right Like you saying you sell something else. Isn't the sneaky

way of saying you won't sell the leg drop? Right? Brother, You're saying you're a sales manager for Hershey, means you're gonna sell the leg drop in Hershey, Right, dude, right? Why are your sales manager for leg drops. If that's the case we're managing. He drops, Now, dude, it was my leg drop. Not good. What I gotta know what's going on, dude. Nobody tells me anything in this sort. Nobody

tells me anything. On the road, eight hundred plus miles a week, all over Illinois, my car was my office, and TLF quickly became my soundtrack. The earliest shows, The Main's Journey Star came Memorial Tour. All helped get me through those long drives. The only bad thing about the show back in those days it was too short. After getting burnt out from being on the road, I started working for the state as a tax collector. It's okay, Irwin, Seriously, he goes from goes from selling out in

Hershey to fucking selling out. Indeed, Yeah, in the fall twenty seventeen, I could go full Nash on folks that would call complaining about their situations. I believe in an email send a long time ago, I'd mentioned that one particular delinquent taxpayer cussed me out pretty good, and I can only respond with, Hey, I'm just a guy. Oh my god, what is what the fuck man like? Look listen, I didn't create your tax problem. All right. Like, that's right. I'm just the guy making the

call, you know. I mean, look, maybe you and I can sit down, you know, have a glass of wine, kind of chit chat over, you know, steak dinner or whatever, and we can kind of talk through this. But I'm not the guy that did this to you, all right, I'm just the guy calling you to remind you that you did it to yourself. Well, thank you for that. In twenty seventeen, the ninety seven Journey to Survivor series, this is my favorite individual section

of TLF right. In the heart of the multiple part episode covering the Montreal screwjob, my daughter was born. I sat in the hospital cracking up when JP introduced the evil bred hard voice. Well, reading from Danner's book, what do you mean? I am Brett Hart, I'm evil. I continued working for irmin r Scheister for five years, but ended up moving to another state agency as a supply procurement executive. Excuse me, brother, Well, what kind of supply are you going to procure for me? Let's sit down

and talk about I'm talking about supply and demand. Supply. You are a supply and I have a demand. Let's get on with it. I will procure a demand. You have a supply, I have a demand. Let's get on with it. Tremendous shit, tremendous shit. Uh, it's America, Dammit. You can only take so much verbal abuse from those jacks sheets. Now I'm at a new office with a new desk without having to be in the phone, on the phone, more time for that cast to be

You know where. I've been in that solar system since before it was called the solar system. I've been on the Patreon gimmick. You've been there for me, through the valleys and the peaks. And like WrestleMania four, when the fault lines break off and other subpar podcasts fall into the ocean, the Solar System will be saved from the bottom by the sea of that fucking cast, like Hogan, save the Trump Family. I've gone far too long. I've gone too long with your Carney at a Hall of Fame ceremony, I

look forward to another ten years of TLF. I wish I could make it to Philly, but I know it's going to be amazing, and I'll be there in spirit. Next time we make it to the Midwest, I'll be there. Well, maybe many thank you for the memories, Thank you for the inspiration. Thank you for as Michael Buffer would put it, hulk Mania, hulk Mania. Thank you, dude, brother, what hi hoof? And thank you Michael Trimarco and and then Morgan Cameron and and and and Travis

who went up to the moat tier in a big gigo. We appreciate that. And and nick O and Michael Herndon and Jane Altoyds and Ryan Harvey and and Chris and John Zigler and Dolph Ziggler and t JK TGK sorry and uh Edward Jeffrey and Joseph Russo and how about Timothy Weiss and Rick Murphy and Paul Augustine and Carl Bennett. I mean, folks, Fox, I mean, come on now, what more do you need? Ron Rights Terry Funk memories. Thanks to my friend that got me into wrestling, Ritchie, I saw

a lot of mainstream A D's WW and going forward with Funk's career. My friend's mother and father were tape traders in the nineties. Might excuse me, excuse me? His mom loved Funk and Foley, so maybe it's her I have to thank for seeing so much A Funk I remember at age twelve thirteen, Richie showed me the full built up of Flair Verse Funk, everything from Funk attacking Flair pile Driver on the table all the way to the I Quick match, which quickly became my favorite of my early fandom. Also to a

twelve year old, the Thunderdome was crazy as fuck. He gave me a handful of ECW tapes, which when it was Eastern Champs to Wrestling, I believe Funk winning the TV title. They had been on those tapes. Fast forward to the late nineties, and that middle aged and crazy bastard used a chainsaw to cut his way out of the box and into my heart. During the hardcore fight between Foley and Charlie when they were tossed into the dumpster and

shoved off the stage, I fully marked out for it. I was just shy of turning fifteen and knew everything was fake as hell by then, but that moment was real to me. For some reason, I bought into the angle, likely because they had to take it up about thirty minutes of live TV. I'm listening to this part of Lapsed Funk now and just had to write in. I guess in nineteen ninety eight, ECW finally started to get more popular on their and on their website. I sent out messages about them

touring further out and then just on than just the East coast. Finally, in nineteen ninety nine and two thousand they came to Peoria, Illinois, which was something I suggested a few times while chatting with whomever manned the ECW chat. Thanks to our video having so many tapes, my friends and I bought roughly four to five different tapes. Among them was IWA King of the death Match ninety five, the Best of Hi Busa, ECW's Best of Hardcore,

and at least one of the other Japanese death match compilations. I was able to see Sabo Verus Funk, Born to be Wired, Funk Versus Folly, and loads of Funk Wrestling and FMW and others in a variety of death matches. Funk Owing to WCW is somehow not a part of my memory. In the two thousands, skip forward, ECWWCW both clothes and some books come and

documentaries come out. So they decided to bring ECW back for one night, and there were whispers of the real ECW originals doing their own show and documentary. Jack, thank you for including the forever Hardcore interview of Terry Funk. I don't know why, but that interview, when I heard at age twenty two, stuck with me. Someone like Funk would rather stay true to himself and go back up and down the roads with guys he loved working with,

rather than earn some big Vince McMahon money. I've done my best to live up to that ideal, staying true to oneself for selling out to the man, even if one year later he still got to make man money in hand. That's right, that's Terry Funk for you. Yeah right, he'll get he'll get the money, but he'll do something to make himself be able to look himself in the mirror. Right and closing, I guess I have Funk to thank for my love of hardcore wrestling and being a stubborn ass. And

that's why I'm not a millionaire. You know, that's why I'm not a millionaire. Well, the things that I wanted to do probably should have done. I should have gone the Walmart. It took a long time to send this. Walmart take a long time to send this because it's like saying a final goodbye to him. It hurts in the next few years, won't get any easier for us fans. Man, It's yeah, it's irreplaceable. It's

gone. Yes, Clarkson comes Comes Clean on Patreon Listen. He writes, when I first started listening to the show, the singing was what most annoyed me the most. Was what annoyed me the most. Where do you think is going to happen next? Boss? Uh? He's gonna not be able to live without it. At some point it broke me and I started laughing. Yes, I haven't stopped laughing at it. So good ship, Pal,

I know. And you're out there right now, You're out there, you have a pause, you go, oh, these guys are like God, that was cringe Like. I can't think is wrong with these ass clowns. I need to be with people that never put themselves on the line. I need to listen to people that don't uh, unapologetically laugh And all I'm gonna say is that the seat at the table will be kept warm for you,

and we were gonna welcome you back with open arms. I mean, has anyone ever fucking been in the middle of saying something like are there are there so many people who who just don't do Like if you're in the middle of saying something that you know is ridiculous and then all of a sudden you catch yourself, whether you when you realize it, and it's fucking funny, Like do people not do that? Or are we just like fucking unicorn in

that? In them? It seems that way. Like I'm into that my whole life, where I'm in the middle of saying something bizarre and completely nonsensical, and I catch myself because it starts to make sense in my brain as I'm saying it, and I think it's hilarious because it's so stupid. Yeah, something like that. I'm with you, Andre writes TLF often brings a smile to my face. I enjoyed many a chuckle listening to the coach chairs.

However, sometimes I get so caught off guard that I lose all breath from my body and begin to wheeze with laughter at the most random of lines that others may forget instantly. I hear you, I hear you. Man. The most recent I quote he Flair took a knee to the head in the Sting retirement match and laid there dead for the rest of the match. Don't ask me why these things tickle my pickle. They just do. Yeah, dude, I won't ask because it's it's it's kind of self explanatory.

Yeah, Cliff writes wearing Umble twenty eight. I was there. Wow, I love it. I wanted to share my recollections were on BLEW eight. Because I was there first, I should tell you about the festivities. It took place earlier that January day. My best and Tony and I went to Wrestlemaniafan Access at the South Street Seaport in Manhattan because Rick Flair smacked up in

the middle of his retirement tour, was signing autographs. The line to get out the door and we ended up waiting for what had to have been at least two hours. This gave us a chance to expose the wonderful, diverse personalities of wrestling fans. Of course, at one point I thought to myself, I can't believe I'm one of these people. One guy in particular was especially grading. He was doing impersonations of different wrestlers. At first, he

was funny. He did an impersonation for Ady Savage cutting a promo and a bird flying above us. Then he kept going, with each imitation less funny than the one before it. He eventually got into an argument with another guy who was trying to cut the line, topping the quarrel off with a DX crotch chop. I was embarrassed for him and myself. We eventually got to Rick Flair's autograph table. Those of us who without memorabili he had a sign

got a postcard with Flair's face on it for him to sign. When Rick signed my postcard, I said thank you. He shot me a look, look, I just drunk his sea breeze. H I was legitimately intimidated. I don't know what he thought I said. I mean, he was probably drunk. That could have had something to do with it. Maybe he thought I was eyeing his fourth wife, who was seated next to him. Either way, I moved on and watched a Tony got his autograph. Tony said

nothing. He just smiled at Ricky and Rick smiled back. Lesson learned, don't thank wrestlers. It all makes sense to me. We spent another hour or so there. Some people from a TLC Haunted House show were holding a contest to see who could tell the best ghost story. Tony made up a story and actually won. They posted the video of it on their website. He made up a story, Oh my god, that's happens that wrestling fans are around. Then he and I lost a WW trivia contest to a kid

who had been a fan way less time than either of us. We were both twenty three and had been fans since the late eighties early nineties. After walking around and grabbing me some dinner, we had an MSG. While we were walking into the initial flight of stairs to get in, I noticed someone famous. It was a member of Run DMC. I don't know if it was Run or DMC, so I just took a chance and scream run no

response, run hunts again. Finally I spartaned up and yelled DMC. Turned around, let me shoot a photo over and it was nicer than Rick Flair. That was a good one. Our seats were on the floor. If you could envision the show from the hard camera, we were on the left side of the arena, rather than perhaps, what's that? Can I not envision the shows? It's up to you. Since this was perhaps the only

well rumble we'd ever see, Tony insisted we sit on the floor. I don't usually like floor seats, but I saw everything going on into the ring, so I was happy. Now on to the matches. I wish I could be all jazzed over the fact that I got to see Flair's last match in MSG, but for whatever reason, I'm not. In fact, the highlight of the Flare MVP match was what happened before and after the match. Before the match started, his sun Usher escored a woman in brown dress to

her seat in the front row. Tony and I recognized hers, Flair's wife. When she was being escorted to the back. After the match, we heeled Missus Flair. She looked at us and waved. Tony and I high fived each other, celebrating the fact that Acartney's latest trophy wife gave us subhuman wrestling fans some attention. Jericho JBL was nothing special. I was disappointed with Jericho's return. He was trying too hard to be the white Jave old By

that spring, I was over him. That change that changed real quick when he started feeding with Sean Michaels and went on to become the best all around performer in pro wrestling for the next two years. When you think you know me plays over the loudspeakers. You can see me on camera jumping out of my seat and applauding. Edge was my favorite wrestler at the time. I just loved how much of a Dicky was. I was happy he got the

main event spot at WrestleMania twenty four against the Undertaker. He earned it as far as roar room with the last eight go sorry was I think most of the cracks behind him. The right springboarded off the ropes. At the end of the match. I screamed, oh shit, because I knew it was coming next Bam spear awesome finish. Next match did not have such an awesome finish, which fell flat with me because of how strong they had built Jeff

Hardy up in the weeks leading up to the World Rumble. He had a whisper and the went off the top of the cage on to Omago one week. The next week he exted you to a swanton bomb off the ross set and sent himself an orton out of the arena on stretchers. That's why he was so overpacked. Then he was jumping off things. Yeah right, I forgot. Every week it was like a stunt and they go home run. He dropped off, fucking kill yourself. That's pretty much what it was,

you know, just kill yourself. How about the go home run? Jeff Hardy dropped Steve Austin with a twist of fate, boss, You ready for that? No, I'm not okay with that, and it's completely irresponsible. It's irregular and it occasional. When they played the video package played the match, I said, man, I hope he wins. The guy in front of me just looked at me and shook his hand as if to say,

no, man, it's not happening, and he was right. All it took was one sudden Arcaiot to put Hardy down and clean for the three count. Hardy got his due later in the year, and frankly, the way w B had Hardy chase the tad over twelve months was done well. I got up to get water after the Santino segment, which proved to be a dumb decision. The person in front of me at the concession stand was getting nachos and there was no more cheese left. The concession worker had to go

to the back and get a new back of nacho cheese. Then they had to install it in the machine that dispenses it. What the fuck this took forever? I ended up missing Michael Buffer's royal rumblin introduction, the Undertaker's entrance. I know you guys don't care about Buffer, but his stick has led so cool to see the fun of how he has these overly verbose entrances.

I love Buffer. Buffer is great, tremendous. I got back into the arenas Michael's theme song started, so who didn't miss the start of the match. Wasn't the best rumble match of all time, but it was good. We had to keep getting up every time a new entrant came down the aisle because all the people in front of us kept standing, and got to a point where everyone was just stayed standing. When the clock hit zero for the

thirty entrant, it felt like time had stopped. And then the white lights flashed and the familiar horns of my time is now blared over the speakers. The first reaction of everyone in the arena was just noise. No booming, no cheering, just noise. Holy shit, John Cena was back. Wasn't his injury supposed to keep me out for close to a year. Holy shit, John Cena was back. Once the shock. I've seen it. Returning war Off, every one returned to their anti scenic corners. I wasn't one

of the anti Sena people. I wasn't a fan of his and I wanted him to be less of a superman. But that night I was a Sena fan. After the show, Tony and I went to catch her train. Let's go see a scene a suck chance. Continue down into Penn Station. One guy near a screen. He's a cancer, No, it was something else? Is he? Do we know that a zodiac sign? Yeah? We could never. When Sena defends, the defenders would say that he was the top guy because he got the reaction. This is what they were talking

about. They had guys, the guy had fans going back and forth as if they were still in the arena. I hadn't been in many live wrestling events by that point in my life, but Roy Rumble two thousand and eight was the greatest show I had seen in person, and it was because of those few minutes between Seena's return and the end of the show. Just a few quick thoughts to end the show came in the middle of ww's last good creative period. I know a lot of people think we're in the middle of

a good creative period right now, and maybe we are. The stuff with Roman over the last four years has certainly been unique. But I don't want to watch week to week look I used to. I don't watch week two week look I used to. So I don't think I can make a fair judgment. However, at the time, between two thousand and seven Survivors Series

and Summer Slam two thousand and nine was really good. Michael's Jericho, Edge, Undertaker and Jeff Hardy CM Punk were three feuds that were done very well, with the Michael Jericho feud being the best out of all of them. I kind of agree with that, and that was pretty good stuff. Yeah, I was definitely still watching. I I enjoyed that stuff quite a bit.

I know the Hopper winner who picked the show it said that Sina was not as big a hero after the show because he didn't go on to win the Deputy B title for Wharton. But I actually liked Elcina was booked for most of two thousand and eight. He seemed human. He couldn't get the Deputy be title from either Worton or Triple Ag. She lost to JBL. He lost to Patista, he wasn't a dominant baby face that he had been between two thousand and five and two thousand and seven. It was refreshing.

Of course, he had beat Jericho later that year for the World Heavyweight Championship into real Jericho's momentum. I wish that their feud could have gone to WrestleMania twenty five and culminated with Sena winning the title at that event. Instead, Jericho deserved a main event match, and it would have been better than stupid angle between Sena, Edge and Big Show, which saw Vicky Guerrero cheating on

Edge by making out with Big Show. Okay, maybe not every creative decision during this time was great, but the has Brown attitude urists weren't perfect either. Anyway, Tony and I are going to wrestle Manty forty this year and we'll be at the bozos, biceps and bullshit. Bruce. I remember seeing you, guys. I remember the fist bump. Very nice, yep. If I approach you to say thank you for everything you do, please be nicer to me than Rick Flair, all the best. Cliff Well, it

was glad to be just that. Absolutely. I was thrilled, like the way you know it was. I mean, listen, I'll be the first to admit, like, you know, it's it's awkward. It's awkward as hell to have a fucking receiving line going as long as it did. First, we didn't even know there was going to be right, you know, that was not playing. To step out of the concert hall and there's there's like a lot of someone set up up one of those rope things. Yeah,

there was a whole fucking thing. And listen, I'm glad to do it. Its just I was very taken aback and it made me nervous, like no, no question, like I don't feel that, you know, worthy of that shit. But listen, love you guys. Yep, they did, and you know, happy, happy to be there and to do something that you know, put a smile on your face. Okay, here's Chris my first WrestleMania Oh boy, who use you? Hello? Co chairman, first time riding Beta fan since nineteen ninety? Wow were we done the

podcast nineteen ninety? I don't even know that, brother, that's what broa dude. I still have my Macho King wrestling buddy. After hearing the summer the Suma Slam ninety two episode of That Fucking Cast with my very dear, close personal, longtime trash friend trace friend Darren. A little over a year ago, I knew that I wanted to know, I needed more, so I started from the beginning and I'm currently on WCW one censor ninety five with

ninety six episodes behind me. Over the Edge ninety nine was a couple of episodes before this one. Good Lord, that was a tough listen, but I digress. We've got this friend, a twan aka Montezy. He's a rapper that specializes in theme songs for wrestlers. He's got a song in basically every company except WWE, including Sammy Guivara, Guava with Cheese, and Big Swols aew Themes Moves from TNA, among others. We met at mcw's Maryland

Championship Wrestling Shamrock Cup twenty fifteen. We were both there to meet Roddy Piper. This was the night of the Night of the Last Piper's Pit. We became fast friends. Fast forward about two years and we're going to our first Wrestlemanium, WrestleMania thirty three at Camping World Stadium in Orlando. This is when we went to the opposite direction right. Antoine lives in Florida, so he and his grandma met me at the airport and picked me up Thursday before the

mains. I'm not the type to ask for comp tickets, but I won't refuse them if offered, and as a result, got to do a lot of cool shit I'd otherwise not be able to do. My friend opened the Russell Kahn Kicko party with a short set before a Q and A with sting Rick Flair and Jim Ross. I was surprised to see Jim Ross theirs. His wife just died a week or so before this. That's right, Wow,

I don't know it was right there, that's crazy. He got me into the Evolved show happening in Orlando, where I got to see Zach Saber Junior twist Ach into a pretzel, along with being the first time I ever saw Keith Lee Russell. That big man can fucking fly. I walked into Russell Khan with my pink and black zubaz An American flag fanny pack with a tight budget. The only meet and greet side I went for was Al Snow and mean gene Oakerland also told me. He but only admired my zubaz but

also my fanny pack. Made me feel like a million bucks. Despite my budget, Antoine managed to get me pictures with Sabu, Johnny Mundo, and Rikishi too. While walking around the convention. At one point, out of nowhere, Tony Atlas walks up to Antoina starts shaking his hand all aggressively and saying, Hey, Coco, Beware, how you doing, Go go beware. Nice to see you, Coco, Beware. We couldn't tell at the time if this was a rib or if he was serious, but looking back,

I think he was fucking with us. Next up was NXT Takeover Orlando, where I get to see the debut of Alistair Black and bask in the gloriousness that is Bobby Rude. We got lost on the way out of the Armway Center. We couldn't find our parking spot and our phones were dying. My friend got a lift and the guy didn't speak any English. Just left,

right and straight was all he knew. We went in a circle like three times before we ended up back where he picked us up, where I looked across the street and saw my friend's fucking car turns out the turn. Turns out the ass hat running the lot took down the ten dollars parking sign and put up a twenty dollars one while we were in the venue. We were laughing all the way back to the hotel. WrestleMania Sunday. This wasn't

though, This wasn't the best WrestleMania by a long shot. The atmosphere was electric, the fighter jets flying overhead after America the beautiful was bad as it was cool being a part of a U suck chant. When they announced the headliner for the Hall of Fame that year, Kurt Angle. I enjoyed a solid five minute match between old Berg and Bork Laser. It was disappointing to

see the Underseellar do just that and sell and job to Roman Reigns. I was in the nosebleeds on the opposite end of the stadium for the entrance ramp, but I swear I could feel the heat from Taker's entrance. It's true, you can that. I remember feeling the heat for those and very You know, I should not have felt the heat from those things. From all

that, the Pyro for Cain, for Undertaker, it's not okay. Especially yeah, if I can hear it if I can feel it, you know, you know, in the opposite you know place of you know, the opposite position of the of the arena or stadium. I would not want to be close. That's not fun. My favorite moment of that night, by far was the Hardy's comeback. That was deafening. All in all, it was a great time, so great. I did it again this the following year in New Orleans, and I'm about to go to my third in less

than three weeks when it comes to Philly. Thank you, guys for all that you do. Thank you for all the laughs. Thank you your time, your clothes, and your motorcycle. Brother, and of course thank you for Hulk Mania. Brother, Thank you, dude. Why great memories? There cross section of experiences from the solar system. This has lapsed poly cautiously rights listening to the task master fulfill the prophecy. Been talking about shoveling while

driving through a late March snowstorm to get work. To get to work this morning, I finally cut the rare white Bengal Tiger vala. Recently, Kevin Sultan Neil writes, as touches Vader can be, I got to take a side on this one. I remember this is Hogan Verusvader for all five. I remember as a kid thinking that after the Hogan matches that Vader was kind of finished as a dominating force. Wow, he left him in the dust, didn't he He had lost before, but it was always something like Flair

or Sting managing to seize on a mistake and pin him. Hulk always beat Vader soundly and finished him off as a force in North America. They were even prepping him for a baby face running WCW before he was fired, which probably reflected his diminished reputation. There was even a sense when he came to WWF that he was spent force looking to gain some of his menace back.

I was thrilled when he came to w Yeah, that was another one of those guys where it was like, oh shit, but died is turning amazing, isn't it? Well? I mean people, I mean people that fou on ww ninety five. After that, the Vader they knew was gone. Yeah right, he's not only gone from the company, but he could incredibly be portrayed again like he had been because Hogan was there, and Hogan had you know, had sunned to him basically, guess I never saw it like

that, but I know I'm weird. Nick for AM Minnesota Good Day co Chairs. Looking back over the past ten years of listening to that cast, since I heard t J and Cheap Seats talking about having to produce a seven

hour podcast in Wrestleman he seventeen, I have a lot of memories. The most prominent one happens to be with getting my mother to listen to My mom is as normal as they come, two kids, middle class receptionist at an insurance company, and never had an interest in anything to eccentric like pro wrestling. That was until you guys, dropped the deepest of dies into the Cris Ben Wat tragedy. Oh boy. Since I knew she was a fan of true crime books and stories, I went out in a limb and recommended this

episode to her, maybe just to humor me. She told me she would give it a try on her way to work the next day. Two days later, I got a text I finished that podcast. I think there were any more episodes, I'd lene, Oh my god. I thought she was mistaken and only had listened to part one because two days just seemed too fast. To my amazement, though she had gone through all the parts, yes, even connecting her work headset to her phone so she could listen while at

work. The only other episode I could think of that she would like was Over the Edge nineteen ninety nine. She blew through that episode of No Time and asked if I ever think of any of the episodes that she might like to let her know. I couldn't think of anything else to recommend that it was until she watched The Iron Claw and asked me how accurate it was. Oh, my god, no, no, no, that there happens to be. Oh, there's a particular podcast the actor who played Fritz used to

prepare for the role. There's a particular podcast. There's a particular podcast called time Fan Cold, time Lapse Fan. My sixty four year old mother is now going through the entire My god, why. When I asked her how she liked it, she responded with they can be a little dirty sometimes, but I just make sure no one else can hear me listening to it. Oh my god, what a what a fucking what a what a trooper?

She is? All you have in your heart is shame and pain. You're damn right, Thank you, both, Nick writes for being with me in the good times and helping get through the bad. Tlf for life. That one, God treasure, that one I'm going to try. Yes. Yes, the fact that we have four year old mom used four year old mom fucking like, oh shit, that is fucking me up right now. Justin Harmon, Thank you very much for that deep and abiding and high level pledge.

Michael Shop, thank you very much for increasing your pledge. Sean makes a great point, you know, as we talked about Bob Holly in the two thousand and eight Royal Rumbo. By the way, Ronda Rousey's going to be quickly added to this pantheon of Oh Frank, I cannot wait, Oh my god. I mean, I know some people can't stand her, but man, is she a gift when it comes to Joe. I love it having no fox given about you know, anybody who pissed her off, she's

gonna like she's gonna talk about it until she's in the grave. Tremendous, Sean says. Bob Holly is the retired wrestler who appears to friend's family and neighbors to live a normal life. Wakes up early to go for a morning run with the dog to come back and pick up the recently delivered newspaper on his porch, volunteers to coach Little League, helps out with anyone's car trouble

in the neighborhood, and only asks for a six pack his payment. However, everyone knows to leave Bob alone on Monday Friday nights, even in the house of sisters. Come on, you know this is Bob. Yes, this all makes sense, all gets all busy. Yeah, you know, like he fucking yes exactly, he gets ready, sits down, and he is going to go for it. Bob spends those evenings watching general grappling with organized pretent. Yes, his hands on his hips, standing up the whole

time, and fucking going back and forth and back and forth. He's ready, He's just like he's waiting for his moment to just fucking pounce. That could have been him, It should have been him, and this is bullshit. The only safeway to approach him is with a bomb disposal outfit. Tuesday and Saturday mornings are spent putting the living room back together and driving to Target to buy a new TV. No one bats an eye as it's good old Bob brother. Sean that was poetry. I love the paint you painted there,

and I think you're exactly correct. By the way, I agree, I mean tremendous. I mean we need cranky rest often. You know how I said before, you know, learn to be entertained by people with bad attitude. Yes, yes, that extends here, by the way, Oh, without a doubt, without a doubt, fucking tremendous. Yes, just people that are just you know, they were a big enough deal that they could see the big stars operate, yes, but a small enough deal that

they cycled out and felt left in the dust by the nis tremendous. Steven writes, hmm, oh, this is us wondering why Slaughter would have been received as such a clear heel before the Chic feud in wwwf uh huh.

You know, like, what was it about him besides the Gomer pile teasing chance that made people so hate an American drill sergeant, somebody who was supposed to be an American military heroes who really did nothing different to become an uber babyface against iron Chic besides confront him in the isleway Ones and Steve puts it

nicely, and others explain it to us as well. Slaughter is a heel gimmick makes a lot more sense if you place yourself in the average wrestling crowd in the late seventies in the early eighties, where you're going to have a large percentage of the men in attendance having served and probably as enlisted men. The slots represents every hard hassed drill instructor or staff sergeant or whatnot that private

wrestling fan had to endure well in the service. Of course, this was back before the middle and upper classes in this country stopped serving in the military and we started hollowing the men willing to be violent and mean on our behalf a personal heel from a time before every veteran became a hero. That's fascinating. I mean, yeah, right, everyone hated mister McMahon because it was their boss. Yes, well, every every military man, Sergeant Slaughter was

their boss, right, I guess that's true. That's true. Jeff writes, when your wife thinks something ki, yeah, Jeff writes, when your wife thinks something is wrong because you yell, oh fuck. When Jp says Dutch is coming soon under the cinema, Aiden Kivelhan, thanks for that incredible support. My friend, We really appreciate it, Fred Denstroff getting the job done. Yes, Christopher Manning, thanks for the cake, He writes Chairman, I got caught up on all of my other podcasts and had nothing left

to listen to in the car on long walks or in short runs. Upgraded to executive producer, tire and have your movie podcast to have his company forever, forever, forever. I look forward to hearing this email in September when you get to the next mail bag after the next unexpectedly long journey takes up the entire summer. Oh god, you know these things happen. Keep up the great work and have an amazing time in Philly. W Well, an amazing time was had, Alli writes, Dear Jack and JP, what was

the most off brand thing about Hulk Cogan's initial WCW run. I'll go first the shade of yellow used for Hogan's merch. Did you detect a different yellow in WW then? W F absolutely absolutely, he had a yes, Yes, it's a brighter. It's like the yellow in WW is a more of an orange yellow, okay, whereas the it's like more of almost Neon esque yellow in WCW and is neon one problematic. Oh yeah, oh god, yeah, absolutely. I mean it's it's it's like it's weird because it's like,

yes, it is, it is. It's just yeah, it just does not work. It's not okay, it's unhealthy. It's like too cartoonish. What it's too bright. It's like it's it's it's it looks it means you know again, it's like neon yellow. It's a bright bright yellow. Like no, that's not Hogan, No, it's gonna be. It's almost it's like it almost a light orange is what it was, you know. Rick Kobos, thanks for the support. Steve Tackett, thank you so very

much. You and Taylor and Nick Ossipoff and Paul's a little Bicky and Pete and Brennan and Andre Mansau and John Francis and Hardy f and Justin Russell and Dylan Smith and Steven Lowry and Michael Caaprio. What about Zach Gellaher who've talked about already, or Golaher perhaps this is the way to pronounce it and Ray Dude, Scott McKay, Jay Woodhouse and Tim z Eilenbach and Jason Joseph Nubauer, Josh Shannon coming in extremely strong, straight to the fucking smote tyr he

right, So this is what heaven is like. This is greetings to popes of pressure upon people's presenting pucker holes who love pugilistic postmodern plays put on presently by peacock and promoted primarily and possibly predominantly populated by predators. Ah, it's Josh Hunter Shannon. I've just joined your patreon. Not three, sixteen, not ten, not twenty. No, you two tour guides of tur tunnel trauma whilst traveling the testosterone trough of talents and turmoil or getting fifty right off?

If you tell me for a bit, I'm going to tell you and those who haven't joined your Patreon yet why I did. I've been an amputee for a larger percent of my life than you've standard vernngagny talent take in nineteen eighty one, at fourteen months old and contracted mining h mening o coal meningitis. I've heard of that kind before. I don't know mening a coal meningitis.

I was in a coma for six weeks and had to have my toes and my right foot amputated as well as needed extensive skin grafts over a third of my body. My parents were told by multiple doctors that if by some chance I did survive, I wouldn't be able to walk, talk, feed myself, et cetera. I surprised everyone lapsed vents. Of course you did, you dumb shit. You fucking writing it up. You're fucking writing it ahem. Anyhow, fast forward five years. Off come the leg braces.

No more seizures, Run forest run. I added that. Fast forward another five years. I then ten, and all other elementary students in our school were given exams. When the results came back, I had the math skills and understanding of a college student, and for English it was post college. Please don't consider I'm bragging. It's just just illustrating my point. I will get you shortly, lapsed, Michler. Better be shortly, mister Shannon. I've got a Ruben waiting for me. I gave leeway to Vince McMahon,

but you sare no Vince McMahon lapsed. Vince from the background. You're damn right, he ain't. Mischler McMahon, What did I say about you or any of your carnies in my side? Again? Vince huh, what what's going on? Where am I? Oh? Sorry? Wrong? Room closed to the door he was listening behind. May I continue? Okay, So this is when I first recall falling in love with pro wrestling, and my markedroom was formed. Over the passing years and painful surgeries, much of what

got me through for the production of Vincent PTSD Barnum McMahon. I knew, or at least greatly suspected it was fake from the start, but I was lost in that world and wanted to know everything about it. At twenty eight, the epilepsy returns, resulting concussions and TBI from a couple of accidents. At thirty six, a heart attack, one stint, at shortly after forty

a second, four more stints. Three weeks later, during the height of COVID, I was rushed to an emergency room because I had a blood clot in my colon, half of which was dead, and I was dying of toxic shock. And due to COVID it was literally air tight. It was sorry, I due to COVID, it was literally air flight me the one

place they finally found they could take the hour then or I die. Wrestling got me through it last year, someone who I was close to and lived with became a meth head and had a psychotic break and tried to kill my father multiple times Jesus bashing indoors to try. This is where you, my heroes, come into my story. You two laps holes got me through it from the stress three weeks ago a third heart attack. But when I opened my eyes after surgery, I knew it was okay. I was going to

survive this. I had you two by my side. The lapsed fan just doesn't change lives, it saves them. I swear to our Lord and Savior, the Warlord, this is all shoot. Thank you for the laughter both, thank you both for the strength, and thank you for the lapsed fucking fan. I know this is long. You don't need to read it all on the cast, but if you read any of your all of it, can you let me know what GP it drops on EPs is the same. Fine? Uh no, but you'll find it one day, Joe. It'll

happen. Yes, And we're very glad to be of service and that you're you're still still alive and kicking. Andre writes, as we head into Man and I'd once again throw an extra cheddar to the deserving CoA chairs to give all I can at this special time of year, time and jump back in a cinemat and find out if Carney's truly are forever. I would like to share a quick story about how it only ten years old, my daughter may already be lapsed. As a lifelong fan of over thirty five years, I

figured eventually my daughter would at least briefly flirt with per determined pugilism. This past December, I managed to secure some front row seats to a WW show and was going to take my daughter as a surprise. I introduced her to fake fisticuff some months earlier and was blown away at how much it enraptured her attention. She was hooked and had no idea what she was in for a few months down the road and we piled them to the family trucks her for

what she thought was a boring shopping road trip. Her surprise was palpable and she couldn't believe that she was about to witness spurious suplexus. To my surprise, that's good. To my surprise. During the opening tag match with Sammy's Ana and jay Uso taking on the judgment day, she became quite quiet and whispered to me that she thought maybe she preferred to just watch at home. I could tell that she'd become overwhelmed with a loud music, noise and perceived

violince up close. It sure seems like the wrestlers are hitting each other hard. I knew what I had to do, Yes, podcast purveyors, I had to tell my daughter that it's fucking fake. I explained to her that the wrestlers knew what was going to happen, that they weren't actually trying to kill each other. Her wheels turned, her gears churned. She said, oh, well, that makes me feel way better. Dad. Have you been lying to me? Yes? Are they lying to me? Yes?

Why did you do it for your entertainment? Why did you lie to me? I wanted you to have fun. I wanted to put a smile on your face. Why do you make me read the Satanic verses as well? You did made me go to a I'm not going to do it, but I went to a very dark place right there. I explained to her that the wrestlers knew what was going to happen. Yes, yes, yes.

Within a minute, her anxiety lesson in her body language relaxed. Then she knit her brows with righteous indignation and crossed her arms and looked at me. Great, So who's going to be scripted to win the next stupid match? Oh she's maturing quickly. These guys are fucking CUNTSI lapsed at only ten years

old. Oh, I fucking love it. After a little explaining that we don't get mad about movies being scripted, she got back on board and had the most fun I've ever seen her have, cheering and screaming, and even went on to be the recipient of Cody Roads's white belt, making her making four a truly magical night. But I almost lost her at match one.

Thanks for all your hard work, boys. The cast is never long enough, and as a lover of cinema, House must commend JP, who's absolutely hit a wonderful stride on cinemat which is an absolutely necessary compliment to the main show. The cast always goes deep into my ears during mundane tasks and every night before bed, and deep into my arse at all times. Thank you for whole comania andres the service we provide. And it's a wonderful little vignette

there, isn't it? The coming of age story. I love that. I love that one. Hockeen Nights CT writes on Patreon. Bob Holly is the only wrestler who should have been allowed to write multiple books just to update us on any new assholes he may have discovered. Yes, I totally agree. This guy is a totally undiscovered treasure. Underdiscovered, I think is the word I'm looking for. Are you ready for somemore Brian? Oh? Of course he has a kind of a more personal one instead of just the greatest

hits. But it's fine. It's a kind of combination of the two. Boy uh rewind rewind rewind Holy shit, Jesus Christ, Hello, CoA chairs. I first heard about the show on a message board. Someone was discussing the Canadian Stampede episode and lapsed Helen Hart saying she should have aborted Bruce fucking hell. I knew immediately I needed to listen. It was a great episode to listen to thanks to the amazing lats. Here is a snippet of this

bit. Bruce, shut the fuck up. Nobody likes you all right already. Fucking Look, you were a big mistake. Not only were you not not only were you not ship Bruce. Not only not only were you not planned, but I should have had that abortion. I was in the room. I was gonna do it. Bruce. You are you are a walking abortion, all right. It should have been nonexistent, the biggest mistake of my life. You should not exist. So, by the grace of Hell,

by the grace of Satan, you're here. I love the riff on how Jr. Pronounced Great Sasuke Sasuke as Great Sauce a k which led to you the Great Meat Sausake Virgil under a Mask, which is even funnier after the tribute episode, The Great Misso super Ka, the Great Tip to the Great hip Tosske, the Charlie Hasseke, Oh my god, the Big bossa ke Man Jim rossa Ke, and the Winkle Fossaki, Oh my god,

that is a fucking like holy shit, I forgot all about that. I wonder who, I wonder who had just fucking watched h the uh the Social Network and one of my fucking was like Winkle foth Great. The wonderful bits and the amazing insight into the ten man tag main event immediately hooked me on the show, featuring a little bit of everything that makes TLF great, and I went back to the beginning with summer Son ninety one and caught up as

soon as I could. Speaking of Sumislam, I firmly believed that Shimoslam is the ultimate non journey event for TLF. In addition to the first episode of the show, it has two of the greatest standalone episodes of all time, SummerSlam many two and SummerSlam two thousand and five. SummerSlam two thousand and two with the iconicness e Mon I'm Fucked and JP's reading of Diana Hart's Pulitzer worthy Tom under the mat, which should which would provide inspiration of the name front

of the Somat. Indeed, she is truly a genius for her ability to recall for a word every conversation from decades ago. Summerson two thousand and five had three bonkers pieces Hogan, Sean, Eddie Ray, and Edge Matt Hardy.

The Edge Matt Hardy bit had an incredible stretcher to lapse. Vince talks to Edge about rewarding him with a title in beating John Cena if he could, if he would destroy Matt Hardy and lead his relationship laps, Vince then revealed that he wants the Hardy's destroyed because they are from North Carolina and he was raised in North Carolina, which prompted Jack to say electrifying Boss. Laps Vince said he wanted them destroyed because they remind him of things he doesn't like

upon himself. It wasn't your fall fence over and over like Robin Williams and Goodwill hunting. Laps Vince then said, don't do this to me, Edge, don't do this to me Edge, except this is the show. It's not gonna get any better than that. And then laps Hogan loses his shit Gorilla grabbing the heads said training the Undertaker match, which is one of the

greatest bits in Lapse history. Oh my god. The two constants of the show are You're ever deepening investigations of being too Vince and Hogan and your ability to tap into their psychees. Time always seems to prove that laps Vince and laps Hogan aren't the truth, as revelations about there about the men mirror statements made years earlier by the co chairs. I love that this Tuesday and Texts

episode. It was one of the first glimpses into the co Chairs origin with the discussion of Jack's valedictory speech and all the little line thrown in that people didn't get we're jokes and thought were meaningful, including lines cribbed from Jake.

So the episode had an excellent discussion of what made Jake absolutely compelling, absolutely how we were likely just like lose in our minds, like explaining Jake, Oh my god, oh forget fuck yeah, Oh he was just look he's he you know he was, he was, he was just the best. Trust him as you know, exactly exactly trust him because you know what, you can't trust him. Wow, and you never will. Uh. The

Wrestling Journey was incredible. Each episode was fantastic, and the larger series chart at the course of w W and it's effect on the overall wrestling business. I believe it was during the course of this first journey that TLF stopped any censoring. Yes, it is a bit bizarre going back to older episodes. After listening to years and years of completely unfiltered episodes, still early episodes have

shelf life. It is also whild listening to the death toll for early episodes and realizing how many more people would be on the list today, there's so many of twenty. During a four way tag match with Rakish, she ended up with a riff about oh wow Ah about John Depond having a conversation with Laps Vince. John said I'm a very serious person. Vince then said, I'm very serious to them. I'm very serious about defiling these hoes. Oh my, Jacka should say no, I can't afford this. I can't.

We're done. Twenty episodes in after defiling the Hodes, We're done. Oh my god. It's pain. It's pain. It's so far out there. I can't defend it. I can't see my computer through the fucking tears. Unbelievably funny segment, but after revelations about Vince in recent months, it is very realistic that Vince would have had conversations with someone named John about defiling women. Yikes. Yeah, I could find each I could find which episode it

came from. But I loved Laps and saying snook a push. I can tell you what episode that's from. That's from It's a Saturday Night's main event from eighty nine leading into this, the Survivor series whatever. I don't know what number, Yes, yeah, I don't know why I remember that being that, but I remember it being that episode. The Starkeare Memorial tour was

fantastic. A few brief highlights were treating Bob Coddle as an ecaleptic and w and Bob fra Gordon the pimp King, and making Lee Marshall out to be

the world's greatest preferend. My favorite bit might be Laps Vince learning about Hogan going to WW and saying, over and over, Hogan Turner, Hogan Turner, I love Jack debating Laps Thattch getting Everybody to Me of Season five with the Wire, where prosecutors had Clay Davis seemingly dead, dead to rights and he annihilated them with his routine in front of the jury, followed by the

prosecutor saying, what the fuck just happened? And whatever it was, they don't teach it in law school can lapse, Nash say, she the scapegoat for the whole day. You know, fuck it, what you want from me, I'm just sitting here just doing my fucking thing, you know, every fucking day, doing my fucking thing. Just look, I'm not gonna sit there and and you know, just let fucking hypocrisy run the roost.

You know, I gotta take care of shit, you know, and that means me fucking sitting in my you know, sitting in a fucking uh uh Shay's lounge, you know, watching TV all day. It's the way it fucking is. It's just tremendous. It's his face, Yeah, it's fucking it's like puffy face. You know, like does this giant like you know, uh, Santa Claus rosy cheeks, you know, and his and his eyes that are just like so squinty in his old age, you know,

like he's just he's always half asleep. He's always half asleep. Yeah, I just you know, I came back from going to the fucking supermarket and I realized I was like, oh, ship, you know what, I haven't had fucking honeynut cheerios in like two years. I was like, you know what, I'm going to get some of that, ship. Yeah, a couple of hours apples and a pair uh just strolling around down the fucking aisles and in the uh, in the publics, you know, shopping for

images, that's right, you know, shopping for imagery. And I always thinking myself as like, you know, if I had if i'd had, you know, if i'd been you know, if I had to do something different, I'd do it all over again. I'd be a fucking DP. Yeah, shooting film. I got the eye for it. Yeah, I got a good I got a good sense of comp Oh, you can say that again, Ken, you can say that again. Check the bank account. Check the ten ninety nine it said the comp I did not know that

was fucking laid out for me. Good sense of comp Yeah. On the back end. Yeah, you know, like I'll be the first fucking DP to get points in the film, you know, fucking get more points of fucking Will Smith. You know, Hm, that'll be the first DP to get points in a film. Awesome. Brian's bringing back all kinds of great memories fucking Kevin Nash behind a fucking camera, like fucking designing shots with the

director. But you know what I'm thinking, you know, we get a nice the scene, I'll tell you what you know, Like, look, you do what you want. You know, you're the director, But I tell you, you know, the scene is calling for like a noir like Stark lighting it up. Wow, you know, and we can just kind of like do a slow push in with the dolly. Yeah, I just think, I just think could be fucking money. You do what you want. You know, you're the boss, But I'm telling you where the fucking

money is. Yeah, it's not pussy footing around fucking Noir with the pushing. Yeah, the old the n p I. Yeah, so muny. Yeah, we do a fucking n p I. We call it a day area show. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, n p I. What can you Yeah, Noir pushing, you know, Noir lighting set up. We push him with a dolly and yeah, what's the problem, nothing, no

problem, h action. I guess we're good. And when it came to GDPs trying to turn to the WO, they pushed him with the DEALI heah, you know, we fucking pushed him with a dolly and we pushed the Dali. Yeah, Delli, Yeah, I fucking love Dai. It wouldn't be in this fucking position with a him. He's like the uh the only non nwonwo the fucking fucket uh eat. In every journey the show is undertaken has that of new layers, new jokes, new clips, which have made

the show richer and funnier. It has been interesting listening to which wrestlers really click with you during a journey, and who you consider the hero of a journey like Nick Bockwinkle during the Life and Death of the aw A ABA series was memorable for a number of reasons. Laps Vern getting his ninety percent and his Dinah powder of seeing how much of the Hogan era in ww was largely taken from the ABA, Larry Nelson being a mess rod tron guard. The

Trial series unleashed wrestling's greatest bulldog. It was not Davy Boy Smith or Dynamite Kid, It was Jerry mcdeviit correct. I have never heard anyone more relentless than mcdebit tearing apart George the Horion on the stand. You two are absolute mad men for acquiring and acting out the complete court transcripts. Nobody comes anywhere close to you too. A few phrases are integral to the show. Whose

turn is it going to be? JP saying somehow someone looks like someone looks like the child of person X in person wy fall by jacklin them up and laughing. Anytime you say what's wrong or what's the problem is fantastic. My favorite recurring bit has to be anytime you break into Lapse Boston locals, especially talking about Boston cops. Any segment that covers is beer, Gold and Jes has given us annoyed locals, which is always hilarious. Oh, I almost

forgot one. The Lapse editor is to always remind us that it is fake. Other great components of the show are Jack pulling from the Laps bookshelf and JP playing the Lapse jukebox. I'm always tickled by JP's constant disdain for Seth Rollins and Scott Norton. Oh my god, Yeah, they can't go to the grave fast enough. The tribute episodes of the show have also been highlighted,

from Dusty and Bruno to Patterson and Virgil. Taylor provides insight into what makes them memorable, good or bad, and infuses the tributes with humor. In addition to being the most insightful podcast and the funniest podcast, the Coachairs have delicately handled the most horrifying and sad topics. I think of the Over the Edge, nine to nine and ben Wy episodes, as well as the nine to eleven episode. I also remember how hard JP took watching the Mike

van Eric press conference during the lamentable chat tragedy episodes. The Patreon content has been incredible with the live calls under the cinemat Wrestle Mamia and this American work. UTC resulted in one of my favorite mainstays of family FEWD music. Oh God, Guy just always las when deployed by JP. UTC also gave us the I Went Back clip from Jesse's interview for Predator, and it has been interesting hearing a bit of TLF lore with Patreon getting uh getting to listen to

the call for wrestler's deaths. The use of cameos has been a brilliant idea. Of the absolute best was the recent Neporadi cameo from Kevin Nash. Jack comments on a nation's conclusion, saying, where sheep. I just want to make sure I'm not one that gets sheer for my old Kevin Nass story. The fucking election coming up. You know, you know we're just fucking shore out of politics. But I don't want to get into politics. Soo, but whatever time goes su matter, man, it doesn't matter. You know,

I'm just fucking sheep. I just don't want to be the sheep that gets That's why I get shorn for his wool after a decade of episodes. There are what we consider involuntary lapsisms. There are words or phrases on the show like roll up or behind that always prompt laps O, what brother or who you taught been talking to? Because of the double biz clips from TNH and I find myself saying double bins anytime I take out my cartage recycling double

bins. That's really funny. I can't remember when, but one of my favorite moments on the show was JP getting extremely annoyed by Jack doing a Bruce Pritchard impression and Jacks I was saying I found my nash. Speaking of Jack's impressions, his Patterson impression is a highlight lapse of in saying Patterson get in here, followed by yes boss as a staple of the show. My absolute favorite Jack impression is when he does Suja Bangs, the bizarre accent and delivery,

the check bulls out and kills me every time. Charles Dickens might have written a Tale of two Cities, but t f gave us a tale of two Terry's and three thread we DNAs and a lapse funk. I know which one is a bigger gift to culture, and it came from a particular podcast. Teenage gave us Laser Spine, Hogan, Legal Eath, and more than

any other journey, an incredible array of all time clips. You're a clown, no doubt, one, tooth Ornoli, Hide the Ball, and my personal favorite, Foaming at the Crotch are just some of the amazing clips. And of course, the Dixie theme song The Lapse Funks gave us the longest time spanning and widest ranging journey of them all. And where are We? And I went ahead, hang on, dude, I hang uned Hada Honda

Hala Halla, what right? All those two? Some other highlights of the show Laps Barnett saying my boy and I can't laps him hurt, talking in piece metaphors, Laps pilgrimage of the Silver Dome, the numerous amazing lines from Heen and JP's Jesse impression, JP reciting Hogan promos he had memorized when Chief Brunch Jock saying, what do we got today? Boys? Huh, I'm not gonna do it. I can't go into it. It's gonna let let for now this suffice. What we What are we doing today? Home boys?

Ris to the crimes. He's one of those guys, you know, because you imagine Chief Brun. Okay, he's got no he's got no neck. All he's got is chin and double chin. First. It's kind of like siting here the whole time. Man, you know, Oh my god, you know who I fucking pictures as Chief brunchuck crist of all fucking people, print think people. I think we've only seen him one time on uh uh on cinemat maybe at this point, Mike Starr Stark, m I K E S T A R R. Okay, not not the musician, but

the actors. Chief Brunch totally am that is perfect. He's a little too tall. I picture him being a little bit shorter, but that's still Nonetheless, I pictured to the guy from NYPD Blue, the fat guy. Oh Dennis Franz. Mm hmm yeah, friends, I think he retired after something. I think I think he retired and something happened his career, his career, like he just died after he left them, my p D Blue,

And I'm just looking through look at him, look at fucking France. Oh his his real name, Dennis Franz, Schlata Schloa, Schlockla oh gosh, Salmon Russia. Oh my god, it's the fun whah then wah oh it's really, oh my god, it's really oh my god, how do I get that from? Where's the god? Damn uh? Where the fucking oh? Here you my boy? Yeah? Oh cheap brund Jack saying from JP,

I pop anytime. JP says, coming sooner onto the cinemat, Jack sing, ladies and gentlemen on you, TC Shame and Payne, Robert Parish, well we got it, yep. Imagine It's like it's like globs fucking shooting out of his fucking cock, having needed a champion. JB discussing some of those things, giving sandwich laps, Vince's nonsense, corporate speak, Kevin Salvin shoveling snow. Some recent favorite moments are someone joked, what movie does

hul Cogan hate? The blind Side Brother? Exactly? Dude, that's not cool, all right, totally not cool. There should be no blind Side Brother. We should have eyes all around. Speaking of, look at the next line, Jack noting during teenage that he would constantly say, O, brother, what why So true that Journey fucked me up on that front. So true. I'm a sorrow on the I'm like Cactus Jack Triple Ah Street Fight from the two thousand and rumble. The crowd is into it, but

this is stupid. No wonder, there's so many mental health problems. JB said about Todd Gordon during Lapsed Funk, how do you think this guy scammed? Oh? How much do you think this guy scammed? In a days daily pass? Jack? When you think of Todd Gordon, JB, I feel like I just got robbed. Jack. Why he's put to the gentleman, he's put together by other people's money. I feel like I just swindled me out of money now, and it's from thirty years Oh, holy shit,

holy shit, I don't remember that at all. That's fucking funny. The James Bond you see Journey, which is now underway, already has a number of gem Jack Ass said, the question has to be asked, is it winstill the Churchill's stern during the Casino Royal, JP said, Peter Sellers is the reality we choose to ignore? Peters is the reality? Renor that's

tremendous. I'm discussing just incredible telling Vince that he's Portuguese. Jack Quinton names Kurti Gola just now no, I know we've read from his book in the okay, so that was kind of the inspission laps funk during the funk sabur and man, oh, well, you know what, he is a man of war, that's for sure. Just incredible laps funk during the funk Saboo. Jane Douglas's match said I got a giant pole. I got a giant

pole in my pants, and Jack so Fair lapsed funk ECW. There was discussion about a wrestler from the Turn of the Center, which led Jack to say Turn of the Centrum was that Owest in Persus b Rest me at thirteen. Japs, very slowly getting the joke, said it was a double turn of the century. We went again. Sorry Jesus Sorry, Ready to rumble. Davy said the director made a movie called Bigger Fatter. Liar Check said that's a movie about a butcher. Labs Vin said r O. I was

return on investigation. Hell work every time. Oh my god, this is too much. I cannot this American work. Laps then said life is work because work sucks. Jack, during the most recent mail Bag episode has laps hoke and talking about climate change is co o do stand fa out to brother oh ship exactly all the marvels utc J read from an r in the Culture Progress and the Child of the Carnival and Cousin of the God, which prompted

Jack to say, I standing all. Then JP, from the article deception is rife and determining fact is a front check Lapp said, exactly correct. Is that a deal f X sentiment or what ja as? Just fucking hours? Oh god, I'm silly lad, Now I don't know for recording rings j C. JP also talked about Billy Wolf taking. He said, one

guy is taking half of all the money that is wrestling. Oh gods, fifteen boss man taker as I want to sell, JP said, in response to his mother, I've never seen I've never seen college wrestling happen in a cage. No, she said, that's brutal and a crime. Regarding by hanging hangings, Oh my god, it's brutal and hanging there. You're making her watch, Oh my god, Hogan winning the debbat title. Jack the Last Fan is about what the kitchen looks like after the matches were getting food

in the hotel room. As the coachers have said many times, it's all about food. TILLEF is the best college podcast, humor podcast, wrestling podcast, the best podcast in existence, and all sincerity. One of the great pieces of art about America nostalgia deception. Yes, TALF is one of the great pieces of ongoing art in the twenty first century. It just also happens

to be absurd and hilarious. The co chairs are correct and saying it used to be better, but for most things, but TILLAF keeps getting better and better. Congratulations on ten years of the show, and I look forward to the next ten years. Yeah, damn Disgus in his fucking part, I can't tell you. I can't. I really some of those knock me out. O sh We can't do more than one of those in a mail back. Seriously, it's like too much. It tastes too much on them.

Oh my god, wrapping up here. Timothy Lee, Saster, Brad Murphy, Andy Yellen, h DP, George Diaz, dav Stephen Tackett, Lumpy Brian b and Mark Henry. Y'all know who you are, and thanks so for him much for the pledge. Zach wrightes just made the switch to moat tier. I know it took me longer than I wanted. But I'm here and I'm here to stay. I've listened to you guys for seven years now. October twenty eighteen. First show was Your Invasion Show, and I was

hooked from JP's graphic teardown of Kevin Dunn. I've been a patron on and off for the better part of five years, canceling mostly because I wasn't financially well enough. I've been eptre for almost two years now, and I'm finally making the jump to Moat. I'll be starving, staying starving. There we go. That's two. Here's a fortith slip. Thanks for everything you do. You guys make my life better by being here. Cheers ZGPS. I don't know if you'll remember me, but my doggie Cobra died in October.

Bought a cameo from Lapsed Vince. Oh yes, I remember that. The Boss was rehearsing producing King of the Jews was very gracious about getting it to me. You guys are awesome, have fun and Philly. Hopefully I'll be there to see you live where Romania is next year. Very interesting, so waiting on confirmation on that front. Kind of weird. Yeah, it's funny because they don't. They usually announced it during wrestling. Yeah, we always know by now. Yeah, Neil writes, this is how much TL is

in my day. When ordering a new printer, my boss asked me, do you need color? Brother the urge to reply, well, in a decent wrestling match, you always need color. Oh man, that's what we're doing, these little moments across the world every single day. Let's see what else. Yeah, Phil knows the truth going. This is as we get to wrestle a new weekend, going to a Stamp convention to check out a building with the WFT TV dippings forty years ago. No, that's hardcore is

Carlo wrote very well on this. The comment simply is no legitimate enterprise, no legitimate people, no legitimate gross shirt. Andrew Brister, William Uran, Jack, Tracy Thomas, Pratt, Connor Elsie Man. We really blew up over this fucking wrestlming weekend. There's so many new faces. People needed that journaling, They needed that content. Michael Uran, Steve Peter Reze j R. L Thomas d. Caleb Bodwin, Jay Wad from Atown, PA,

thank you very much. We met We met him. He was one of the guys that I think we're going to get to it that shouted you out while you had pizza in your face. He said, oh yeah, that was yes, yes, yeah, Askla, thank you so very much.

And Jonathan and Edge Gosh ninety eight and Josh Gabriel, Cameron Watkins, Joe Carr and Mike Robinson, Jay Legend, Alex Schweed and Ash and Liam Kuchi and Eric Prater and Matt Denny and Ted Booze who came through so strong and the Paul Walter Hauser match so far strong and very regretful that we couldn't get

together in Allentown, but we will make it happen one day. J w Odam Cody Hinkle and Scott Arnold and Brett Liuckfield and Jake Anthony Martin and Edwin Krapp and uh and my god, what about a Nindra Balasubraananniam and Panda and this anonymous person and Andy Kennedy Derkai and Brandon Davis and Adam b and cayleb Urvin. Is that enough? I think it's rough. Jesus, what a

fucking roster, what a fucking lineup? So many great comments, so much great insights, John writes to us John Bonnie, longtime supporter, thinks is always co chairs. Live calls are always a treat. It's also the closest I'll get to watching these days. Yes, don't forget we're watching this so you don't have to Josh who hooked us up with that hilarious clip that we played during our Philly show of the local news shitting on everyone in line for

ww world? Yeap, she goes what is wrong with you? On the news, He writes, the Bozo's brunch was the highlight of our weekend. Just want to say thank you. How absolutely thrilling you guys use this video as part of your show. To say I've marked out pretty hard would be

an understatement. My buddy Jared also bumped into the chairman a night too at Manian was so starstruck he couldn' think of anything to say other than warned of the dangers of paying eleven dollars for a slice of cold crap little Caesars vizza? Is that what it was? Was it Caesar's Year? No? I didn't you had Caesar's. I had Caesars. Yeah, I don't know.

Is he talking to me? I don't like, so, I don't know, and he may have possibly said up a big of a TLF fan he is, thanks again and keep doing what you do at the fan lapsed well, Josh, thank you. That was a critical contribution. People love that show so great all Tom puts a very interesting note out there, whole weekend Russell Manie weekend was really about crowning Paul, not Cody new Era. Paul new Era is Paul got Paul him to say, I'm a Paul of that

guy. All got the hero shot with his wife on Instagram. I'm fine with all of it because it wasn't I wasn't investing Cody story after they dropped the ball last year. But this was Paul's weekend. That's so true. The further away he get from it, the more that's kind of the the prevailing sentiment I feel like, so looking back on that historic weekend, Andrew

Patrick David, longtime supporter, Always great to hear from him. Thanks you for doing what it took to get that, uh that Jenelle Grant complaint on the record. Boss, Oh Jesus, thank you for reading the entire complaint of the main feed, Andrew writes, uninterrupted by ads asides, jokes or anything that could distract the listener from the reality they must contend with themselves if they are to have any chance of living as anything remotely approaching the lowest effort

possible to almost technically pass for basic human decency. No excuses, no days off, no bullshit, no bitches, not then, not now, not ever, stay lapsed. Thank you, Thank you very much. Andrew appreciate that acknowledgment. That was it had to be done, as we said,

very much so. And as we wrap up, there was something that we kind of felt compelled to do on stage in Philly that we ended up not really having the time to, but it was it was a nod to Christian, who we've talked about, who is in the crowd and who put together something rather remarkable. Yes, looking back in the spirit of TLFX and I figure year by year, boss, but what we're going to do here and

maybe person by person fuck year by year. Yeah. Sure. What Christian has done is taken the time to go back to twenty fourteen when this all started, we started doing the death toll, and so many impactful deaths of so many has broke era staples right, so many it's stunning to think of how many childhood heroes were still alive when we started this thing and are no

longer with us. Yep. So now, in conclusion of this mailbag episode, we're going to toll the bell for ten years worth of passing in the wrestling world and beyond, sort of like tangential characters that have come up on our show or people of cultural significance that had something to do with the show are listed as well. And it's not just wrestlers we've even talked about,

but wrestlers have some prominence that have also passed in the ten years. Presenting now courtesy of courtesy of our man Christian, the TLFX Immemorial Decade of Death Toll ten years of death and suffering. We begin in twenty fourteen, and we're going to do this like they would do, you know, a reading

of the victims of nine to eleven or something. Yep. Billy Robinson, Bob Geigel, George Scott, The Jigglow, Jimmy del Ray, Larry Nelson, Shagger, Lee Marshall, a Young Fox, Baker, Ricky Starr, Sean O'Hare, The Ultimate Warrior, VISCERA twenty fifteen Akira Who Brother, Ashura, Horror, Nature Boy, Buddy Langell, Ed Francis, The American Dream, Dusty Rhodes, Nick Bockwinkle, Ouch, Peto Aguayo Junior, Rowdy, Roddy, Tommy Gilbert, Tommy Rogers Vern. I can't believe that happened in

the midst of our show. That's one that I thought happened before, well before. But it's wild. Twenty sixteen, Axel rotten Ball's Mahoney, Blackjack Mulligan. China another one, another one I thought happened way before we started doing the show. I remember you said, China Tribute. I said, yeah, you're right, You're totally right. I can't that's why right the line yep, yep, I do remember that now? Is it Don? Is it Ron Bass or is it Don Bass? Donas somebody else? Okay,

Don Bass. Yeah, it's a part of Ukraine, I think, Okay, Hayabusa, Lord Little Brook, Lord, James Blears, Iron, Mike Sharp, Mister Fuji by Oko Doma. Twenty seventeen. Bob Sweeten, Sweet Tan, Sweet Tan. He's on there not because he was important, but because he had a sweet Tan. Dude, Sweet Tan brother. Are you ready, Bobby the brain Heenan. I remember that I was in the midst of working on something and I had to stop. I was like,

I was having at my at my my wife's old job. Yeah, we were doing we were actually preparing a you know we'd do they'd have a faculty cabaret type thing, and so they were planning on a We were filming like a bunch of sketches with the the faculty and stuff, and we were doing an office themed sketched and we were in the midst of writing it and then you you gave me the call, and I was like, I actually said, I have to go. I have to start doing some work here.

We have a problem. Indeed, indeed before we had a mote tier to share it with. Yeah, exactly. Uh. Chavo Guerrero Senior, Dennis Stamp no longer booked, Doug Summers, George the Animal, Steel, the Russian Bear, Ivan Colof, Jimmy super Fly, Snooker, Lance Russell, Matthew and Owahee also known as Rosie Nicole, Bass Auto vunce Ron Bass Smith Heart not to be confused with Bruce Hart, Killer Wallsky, Triple H Trainer. Legend of it from Lowell He's from Lowell. No, he's not from

Lowell. He's from Boston area though Malden Maldon right where school was. Timothy Well Tom the Zman Zank twenty eighteen, Big Bully Busic mm HM, Brian Christopher Brookhouse Brown, the former living but now deceased Legend, Bruno San Martino, Chris Champion, Dirty Dick Slater, Don Leo, Jonathan the Dynamite Kid, Jim the Envill Knightheart, Johnny Valiant not to be confused with the Boogie Woogie Man, Jimmy Valiant, Jose Lathario, Larry the Axe, Penning,

Leon Big Van Vader White, Masa Saito God he died that I could have.

It's weird that Capitelli. Nikolai Volkoff Number one, Paul Jones twenty nineteen, Lionheart, Adrian McCallum, Alberto Munos, Alex Perry, Alexis Smirnoff, Ashley Massaro, at Shushiaoki Colton Quests the Destroyer, Dick Byer, Betty Marlin, Jean Jean Oakerland, Jerry Hogarth at the time of his death, the oldest living wrestler at ninety seven, Giant Gustave the Handsome King, Harley Race, Jacques Rujo Senior, Jim Evans aka Trevor Adonnis Honest, John Cheatham,

that's funny, yeah, John Quinn, King Kong, Bundy kog Catau less Is more Thornton, Max Muscle GDP's bodyguard at Travis Mike Hammer. Not to be confused with the eighties TV detective drama Mistern Diebla Norman, Frederick Charles, the Third Autobahn. Sorry, I'll blame you, Paco Alonso Pedro Morales, Pero Aguayo Senior after his son was killed, of course. Note Ralphus, Randy Colly aka moon Dog Rex hashtag trial of his Life right there, mhm

Rene Gulay Rex Baschas, Rick nw O Sting Bogner. No, that was

no. Rick Bogner was a fake razor right. His name was Jeff Farmer, Rox and big In Staff aka Bella, Donna, Nature Boy, Roger Kirby, Salvatore, BelOMO, Yep, Silver King, Tony the Annihilator, The Wrestling Pro, Edward Leone, Yusuki, Wally Yamagucci twenty twenty, Bullet Barra, Bob Armstrong, Brodie Lee oh Man, Danny Hodge Dick Steinborn, Hannah Kimura, Howard the Fink, Finkel, The Ugandan Giant, Kamala, Kazuo Sakarata, Joe Road Warrior, Animal, Laurionitis, Johnny Mister Wrestling to

Walker, Ian Kevin Green, La Parca, Pat Patterson, Pempio, fur Po, Rip Oliver soul Man, Rocky Johnson the Rock's Dad, also a deadbeat dad to many others. Allegedly, Shad gaspar wrote that in There not a dead beat dad, just a dead dad. YEP, correct, That's

correct. Steve Casey, Tiny Zeus Lister, Tracy Smothers twenty twenty one, Angelo Moster, Sor, Barry Orton, Blackjack Lanza, Beautiful, Bobby Eaton, Buddy Colt, Avalanche, Buzz Tyler, The Natural Butcher, Read, Chris Youngblood, Corporal Kirscher, Daphne The Patriot, Del Wilkes, Dominic Denucci, Don Kernoudle, j Jimmy Crocker Junior AKA Jim Crockett Junior Jimmy Rave, Jody the Assassin, Number One, Hamilton, Nick Patrick's Dad for Better or

Worse, Joseph Josephus Hudson, Judy Bagwell, Oh Melissa Coates, New Jack Paul Mister Wonderful Orndorf, Reggie Parks, Ryan Soakota twenty twenty two, Royal Stud Adam Windsor, Dori Funk's first wrestling school graduate, Antonio and Oki, Candy Divine, Dave Hepner. I don't think I realized that maybe we did. I don't know. I don't remember a call for that one for Candy or Dave Dave Candy. I don't even know what that is. We did a call, I don't know. I don't remember him. I don't even

know that he was dead. Actually, it was a kind of funny. I was actually thinking about when we talked to Earl, I kind of wanted to ask about Dave Glad I glad, I didn't, uh, Jean LaBelle of Judo, you're not kidding? And of a training? Who was it

in Judo in that great scene? Oh yeah, Jimmy Cagney, Yeah, Shashi Aoyagi, Mickey j Henson, w CW referee Rocky King, Sarah Lee twenty fifteen, WWE Tough Enough winner Scott Hall, Timmy White twenty twenty three General Adnan in Casey Exotic Adrian Street, Bert Sawyer, who was buzz Sawyer's brother and ne Us w a tag champion with the Rock in Memphis Superstar Billy Graham, Pray, Wyatt, Brett Sawyer, Buzzed Butch Bushwhacker Miller Draws,

Emil Duprey, Houssain Casro, Ali Vasiri, The Iron Chic, Jay Briscoe, Jerry Jarrett, Joyce Grable, The Genius, Lanni Popo, Killer Con Lumberjack, Pierre Lafleur, An Tar, Pierre Lafleur that was superbeated, Terry Funk twenty four, Occubono Tarro, Jackie Crockett, Paul the Butcher, The sean Onlie Anderson Virgil, and of course the Forever Dead One himself, Boss the Undertaker. We'll see you next time, Miltman as a tej Disanta's production its contents is intended for private use only