Ep. 381: Winter Mailbag (Part 2)

And so thanks to everybody for the fulsome lapsed Funk feedback. It was a journey we won't soon forget. But as I mentioned, the mail bag has been brimming for months now with some great missives and insights and you know, warranted appreciation prompts from members of the Solar System. Boss. Sure, I couldn't believe my eyes on this one, considering how we started this mailbag episode, this one from Brandon, Jack and JP. I don't listen to every

episode of Under the Cinemat, but I couldn't resist the Punisher. Sorry, I'm sorry that you couldn't resist the Punisher. Last week's episode had it all laps Nash cameo JP requested was awesome. Yeah, what are the odds? It's fucking funny we're hitting one all these months later. That's hilarious. Duncan talk. Yeah, I talked to him because I was like, I asked him because I askedhim about the hair. The hair on my cameo. That's

what it was. I asked him about his hair getting Like why they had to do it on TV as opposed to like that that's right, not on set, Like why not just do it the fucking day? Before, like, why do you have to make a fucking gimmick out of it? It's a dandy episode available in our Patreon archives. Indeed, the episode Brendan's Has also has Duncan Talk fig feds. I personally mixed in Batman the animated series and Power Rangers figures with my hasbros. Clay faced like major heel and did

a great choke slam. Tommy the Green Ranger had great mobility and did a money hurri Kanana who would have shut boss? Sure? Sure, hey, you know that's you know, blending, blending the Toy universe. The Toy Universe is into wrestling. I mean I did he Man all the time, The he Man, the he Man figures back in the day. They they were they could do a great superkick. Oh really, the way that their

bodies were they had got there. Their legs were connected by like a rubber band, like a giant, you know, thick rubber thing, and so they could bend in the right way and their their knees were slightly bent.

So they did a great, a great superkick. And most of them looked like they had been to see George Zahian, right, Yeah, they did look like like patients of the Good Doctor sections of old newspaper articles is another mark in favor of the Punisher. Cinemat episode, Brandon says also Jim Barnett my personal favorite lapsed character, offering to blow a guy under a desk city council traffic discussions. Oh yes, Hogan, brother, what I was thrown

in there? I'm sure to throw somebody off, in particular down in Tampa Bay. Well, we did, we did, I do remember if you remember correctly he was he was supposedly because they were shooting. They shot in Tampa. They they he supposedly shot scenes in that that club sequence of the movie. Yes, yes, but we they if they if he did, they cut it out because there's nothing. There's no Hogan in there at all. Southern Lawyer of Massachusetts mashups. Yeah, this ship was also with greatest

hits on most of t That's where we did that. Yeah. If you're looking forward TLFX, where we did holy shit, that's the Punishers where we did the because yeah, because the director's from Massachusetts and he's from he's from that area. The fucking do that kind of it feels good to remember these things. Oh my god, he right to this show is almost the greatest hits of TLF all right, I think it will definitely be a cast. I revisit anyone listening to this not signed up for the EPTR, stopping a

bitch and go sign up. He writes, this UTC episode alone was worth twenty dollars. I was fifteen when The Punisher was released in theaters. I actually remember going to the mall with my friends to see the film. I also purchased the soundtrack. Yeah, I know, fucking loser. TLF brought me back to this simpler and happier time. I never listen. Listen. Nobody who buys a soundtrack for a movie is a loser in my book.

Yeah, there's no room for boss on that front. I'm a fucking I'm such a fucking film score nerd that there's no no, that's that's that's fucking cool in my book. The Punisher definitely punished my ass, But I'm for more VTC, he says. That's right. As we get closer to tlf X ten years in the making, I wanted to share some additional thoughts. I found the cast in twenty seventeen due to my late discovery, I am

not a Day one listener. But when utc rolled out, I knew I could be a Day one EP, so I signed up the first day at Month Live. Now I can proudly say I have joined the mote. The mote. Fucking that's a fucking man right there. That's the story of our lives right there. Get him on the hook and before you know, it's something that they scoffed at in the beginning as something they can't do without. I don't want to get misty. I'd like Richard Fleer. Then i'd have

to the mains twenty four. But just like a lot of other members in the Solar System, this cast means a lot to me. Every time you turn on the microphone's history is made. In my opinion, TLF, it's like a phone called you missed between your two best friends. However, they recorded the entire conversation and sent it to you afterwards, so you didn't miss out. TLF has seen me through rough days of the office, fucking COVID

lockdowns, and late nights rocking my newborn son to sleep. Deep down, I know one day I will be gone, or the cast will be gone. This day will hurt, but thankfully we have the back catalog hashtag's Shelf Life tag goat podcast for generations of lapsed fans to come. Hopefully my son won't be included in this, but who am I kidding? I will force him to watch wrestling as an excuse to take him to shows, purchased toys, et cetera. What a sad state of affairs pause? Isn't that the

true? Any lapsed fan before the kids are too young to know any better are going to have all these wrestling figures that they really didn't even ask for. Yep, yep, No, it's true. I'd like empathetic. I remember my dad buying a bunch of toys that he actually wanted from the play I bought, you know, back in the day. I bought my daughter like about twenty five of those women wrestlers trying to get it in before they

realized how fucking laming stupid it was. Fucking idiot dad. Although she she does say she would go with me to Madison Square Garden again if I asked, Well, yeah, of course, it's a fun, live thing to do. Yeah, it's not that, it's just like really all the time that it's entertaining. You gotta go talk about that shit more. You have a whole round of shame in pain right when you're in school as a rest

fan. Oh absolutely, And then you have a whole other round of shame and pain when your kid looks at you and you're like, they're like, you watch this, Like I can't tell my friends you watch this? Like, right, what kind of parent are you? Like at some point she's going to say, she's gonna say, oh, what does you know? Does your dad do anything? He records a podcast? Oh? Really,

what's it about any of those? Any of those recently boss where somebody asks you what you what you've been doing lately and you say, I know, not since the show. Actually, actually it's not true. I have Well, although you know what did the question didn't ask? I actually did tell. I did tell somebody today, but they didn't. They didn't ask, like what it was about? All right, I know totally they I would have loved to have gotten the nothing over the holidays from a relative you haven't

seen it in a while or anything like that. Well, they always ask how the podcast is going. They always ask how it's going. It's like it's going great, Like we have another fucking banner year? What do you want from me? I say, it's going lousy? Is that like you ask me these questions about the fucking pot? I mean, yeah, it's going. It's going phenomenal right now, So eat ship exactly, hope, I hope you weren't expecting another answer, by the way, right hopefully my

son. Okay, Yes, this wrestling ship, Brennan writes, is a disease. We as lapsed fans, have no cure for it. But Jack and JP you make it so much better. Ding ding ding. That is that is perfectly stated. Also, I noticed someone online saying, asking, have you what made you lapse from TLF h Oh big mistake. Uh listen, we need to get we need to get this guy the crisis counseling line right away. When people start talking that mess, you know that they're people

do and you know what people do. And then and then what happens they come back. They had tone they do to they weren't that they were talking ship. You know, it's fine, very tolerant of that. We understand. We've been through several cycles cycles of it ourselves. Of course personally in my life lapsed from WWUFC and now aw He writes, Wow, that was fast ever well I Ever lapse from TLF. The listener patron for Life brothers

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inflictors of shitcutter oblivion, shit cutter oblivion. Wow. Just listening to the Summer Mailbag episode part one and the listener who mentioned the death of modern wrestling is when commentators started to talk about story, or at least something to that effect. Are we still talking about finishing the story, aren't we? Boss?

We are? I mean we're talking about story onishing the storytelling, finishing said storytelling sequences, sequences of moments of momentary excitement, of of of choreographed mayhem. And as we look upon yet another new year, I do need to make it a resolution every year to come out with my annual shortlist of phrases, we must retire to retain the integrity of the species, and this

year's is in this moment. This is a very lazy shortcut. You hear a lot on like NPR and a lot of formats where people are trying to sound very sort of aerodite and very learned and very kind of like sensitive, and it's it's a red herring for me in this moment. What exactly do you mean do you mean today? Because that's one way to say it. I mean, are you talking about like this very second right just past, like we're how about we're not in a moment. How About we don't know

what moment we're in until a decade after it happens. Right, how about we stop pretending that something that happened last week is momentous before we have any fucking clue if we're going to remember it. We don't know what's in this moment. What's happening now, more often than not, is irrelevant as to how it impacts the future. How many moments did we go through during COVID that like, oh my god, we look back at it even it was

like we were wearing a different skin. I don't even fucking remember moments, got her. You have to you have to respect the memory's ability to sort out what is and isn't significant. And you know, you have to wait for that moment otherwise than that moment, for that time to pass, because otherwise you seem like a moron talking about a moment every two weeks, like you catch you, I don't know. We got to record every moment.

Every moment needs to be a moment. Yeah, it's it isn't even it isn't even a reference to a particular short passage of time, like a moment. Like you know, somebody came up to me today and said, Hi, that I guess was a moment. But what they mean is this moment. They mean like there's a theme that ties together everything that's happened in the past six months. And it's like, can you keep that first draft of history and the drafts folder please? You know what? I had a moment

today. I had a yeah, a moment in the bathroom took a leak. In this moment, I'm shitting my brains out about that. I don't know. In this moment, I'm evacuating my my bowels. I just have bos. That's all. That's all it comes down to. No, No, I mean, listen, you're you're you're on the right side of it all. Thank you. Let me know when I'm not okay, I know

I can. I will, I will. And a listener who mentioned me like like when my grandfather, my dad always said, he said, if I ever act like my father, take me in the back and shoot me. So I'll do the same thing. Look Out, I didn't say to shoot me, but okay, well I'll shoot on you. Yeah, that's right, or at least something to that effect. I would like to trump that suggestion, James writes with sequence who I knew that was coming. I

said it before I even read it. It was bad enough when fuck heads on Twitter would say it, and companion to a ten second clip of something only mildly exciting. But the shark was well and truly jumped. When you hear Michael Cole or Corey Graves exclaim, wow, what a sequence on the call fucking hate fucking rast laying Yes, awkward landing. That's another one, Like we're now acknowledging on the wrestling broadcast that there's a clean way to take

a fall because it's totally phony, right, ooh, bad landing. Where was this figure skating? I thought this wasn't ballet. It is ballet. Come on, it's a dance like oh that would actually hurt folks because he fucked it up? What are we doing here? What are we doing? Maybe Zach going answer late mail bag? All right? Uh, Zach morning Chentz. Sorry for this late late email, but I'm just now getting to the tnh mail bag and figured i'd shared my TNA house show experience for you.

It's pre Hogan, but I do think it's relevant to how To. I think it's how sad empathetic TNA was at the time. The show was in el Myra, not to be confused with el Vira, New York, and I got a couple of my high school buddies to meet up there since it was sort of in the middle of our for all our colleges. It was a tiny hockey arena that was maybe half full at best, like one hundred people, so being college kids, we were pretty rambunctious all night.

In particular, this show happened right after Christian joined up and Kurt Angle got hit with a dui like the week prior, so when their main event match started, I stood up in the AA did it quiet, and shouted, de you way, Oh boy, those were the dead at the top of my lungs. That's really fucking great. I will never forget the death stare that Kurt Angle shot my way full ninety degree pivot to the soft cam side. He probably wanted to handle me like Bob Holly did Daniel Peter. And

that's not even the best part. Later in the match, Christian has him a kneeling an, a kneeling rest sleeper. When my buddy yells that's right, get him in his weakness, his broken freaking neck, and then I chime in, this is fucking you, and I would do no, get him in his real weakness, give him a beer and his keys. Jesus christ guys, ruthless, Come on, Perkangle deserves better than that. The entire place, No, he doesn't. The entire place erupts in laughter,

and Christian corpses so much that he actually dropped the headlock. I'm sure he had some hard words for Christian backstage, but at least Christian wasn't banging his wife right well, Karl's best finisher would have been the key lock. I'll tell you that I don't remember much else about that show, about the show because and eight two thousand and eight TNA wasn't much better than DNA era, but figured i'd share since the same. Then, the shame of being a

wrestling fan binds us together, and we deserve it. That's right. Shame to tell you, Zach. But those those or the memories you have, even if you remember every single thing that happened in the ring on the oh, yeah, you know, you're gonna remember joking around with your friends and trying to pop each other. That's like, it's the whole fucking thing We've been doing over ten years here. It drives some people nuts, thankfully they're

gone ten years. But we've been doing it since fucking two thousand and one. Right, this is just a continuation of the same fucking thing. We would fucking do it at all these shows, sitting in it was baked in alright, sitting up at a quarter filled dunkin Donut Center, up in the fucking rafters, dressed like JR. Purposely screaming yes balcony tickets for a show we knew would not sell out the lower bowl. We can screen forward better seats, but we chose to see the balcony shows. We said, how

funny would it be if we sat up there by ourselves? Essentially because we knew how like how much like you know, when you buy the tickets, they just show you what's what's available. It's like everything was available. You know. It was a fucking It was ridiculous. And what do I remember? I remember saying things like, you know, he should team book a TSHA team with Goldberg and call the team whoopee Goldberg. Yes, I remember these things, you know, yes, and and uh, you know,

probably spouting our favorite big show. You know, he's he's got a family to feed. Hell, he's got himself to feed. In this vain Zach writes in My Wrestling, I want carnies, not social media personalities pretending to be cool wrestlers. And he also urges you, boss to eat that WWF cereal that we got for Christmas. All right, but those preservatives, he says, it will be all good. And this is a member of the bar here, So there we go. You could take that to the bank,

John calla Hill. We want to thank you for the Patreon pledge. Welcome to the vip t or same to you, Tim Brick it's a pleasure to have won your confidence and your business. Ellis rights. Regarding the passage of time, we are now as far away from Lex Luger slamming Yokazuna and the intrepid as Lex Luger slamming Yokozuna was from Bruno Si Martino's title win over Buddy. Wow. That's horrifying. I mean that is because Nobodice's black and

white TV. Yes, you know, it's like you can't there was a year where there wasn't where there wasn't color TV, and the next year when there was. And even though that's one year, it had to have seen like thirty year difference between the two, oh totally. And so when you tell me that like ten years before something that happened in the sixties was the fifties, I ah, just can't process it. Time moves more slowly, and that's the way it should have been. I don't know who said it.

Someone said it just so plainly the other day on something I was watching, and I son of a Bitch, and I made a point to remember who said it. Now I already forgot. Someone just came right out and said life was so much better before social media no, yeah, and they just said it in a way that wasn't like they weren't trying to make a case, they weren't trying to, like, you know, get engagement. They were just in a talk format And I was like, God, damn

it isn't that. Isn't that so simple? Yes? I argue with that. You can't. You can't argue with that. I mean, come on, folks. Some things it's improved, but there's no way in the final math, it's I mean, really, the thing that that it's really improved for the most part is it just allows people to remember other people's birthdays. Yeah, that's something, right, It makes people feel special. I'm not

against that, No, I'm not against it. But what's great is you can keep in touch with relatives and friends you otherwise wouldn't keep in touch with and watch them get radicalized every day. That's great. Well, the the and the really the best part is the fact that you can you can keep in touch with people without actually have keep in touch with it, right, you can keep in touch with it the way you really want to, which is by doing nothing at all. Doing nothing at all. It's like just

watching them and making comments in your mind. When you see the picture of them. We're trying to be happy. It's a fucking beautiful situation we're in here. Chris, thanks very much for the pledge. We appreciate it. My friend Evan Schlansky, Yes, we appreciate that. Cake Ben Oddsley, longtime supporter, recently up the pledge. We did notice that. We want to make sure to send a shout out your way. Zach also right, you know, we haven't got a lot of pap us Sorrow on the cast.

Had no offense to Mama Sorrow or JP. But after meeting him at Survivor series, which Zach did when we did the Moat get together at at the Garden, I think he might be the star of the show. Yeah. Anybody who meets John Sorrow and you come home, except he doesn't. He wants like nothing to do with it. Tell me about it. He's

wise. What does he think about wrestle Mamia? Oh well, he thinks hilarious, Like he thinks it's hilarious, especially you know when my mom goes off on these weird tangents about like her childhood and shit like he he you

know, when he's in the room for that, he's oftentimes. You know, if you, if you listen, if you, if you're if you are a motor you you've probably heard by this point the sound of like dishes being cleaned in the background at times, you know, because because there's my dad cleaning dishes while we're while my mom and I are watching wrestling phenomenal.

Yeah, and it's like if you if you ever saw half the ship that my mom says gets the reaction of him like turning around and looking at her like yeah, or or just like shaking his head like, oh, you know, just disappointed the best. Yeah, he showed up, man, he showed up. That's virus series get Together and like the pizza was on order and it was glorious. He took their of business. Yeah, he

has lapsand shirt on too, didn't he. That's right, that's right, he listen't he's he fully supports the show, and he'd probably come on at some point, but I don't think he he he wouldn't have the same like, he wouldn't have the same train of thought with like my mom, would you know right right right? He wouldn't sit there and be as inquisitive no, no, and he would mind and yeah, yeah, he wouldn't be able to also, you know, freely and innocently, right, Uh,

suspend disbelief as my mom does. Right, it just comes naturally. No man could. There's a reason that there's a reason we say wrestle Mamia, not wressell parent, because it's right. It's the mom guarantee, the mom reaction. In particular to the Cave of Nature wrestling, Nick writes a possible link to get planes, trains, and automobiles to qualify for Under the Cinema

if the film was set in nineteen eighty seven. Neil and Dell arrive in Chicago the night of Star K eighty seven, which was held a mile from La Sale van Buren station at the UIC Pavilion. Okay, there's there's there's that there there is that. There is that I'm willing to investigate it. Have you ever read the planes? Trains? I have. I have tried

to find there's so ah there. I've tried. I forget where I stumbled on this, but I stumbled on one thing that said, and this would have been this would have done it, and this would have opened up a whole other window. But I did stumble upon and I God, I can't remember where I found it, but a some some claim that in the eighties John Candy was a fan, that he was a fan of wrestling, and that occasionally he would do not on television shows, but I think on house

shows he would occasionally be a guest ring announcer. Oh wow. But I found nothing to back that up, So I don't know. We can dream. I can't imagine John Candy being a fan. I can imagine John Candy being a fan for sure. Tom Deary, thanks for the increased pledge. We appreciate it, seemed to you. Martin Fryer, Brian Sower, Steve Martin, Steve Martin noway, oh no, no, let's it's hanging in a gallery somewhere. He doesn't take it seriously. Jonathan Kershner, Welcome to

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Okay, Dorian, It's an interesting place to take it, but the real nice you can take it, honestly. Huh. Famous Barr takes me back to that beautiful time. Macy's bought them in the late nineties, I believe, because you know, we can't have shit. That's right, That is right, it is. Come on, you know I have a lot of

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Harley, is there need to be a reason. That's exactly what he's say and you look at you likeet that. Don't ask me why I'm gonna do it because the damn thing tells me to do it. Wait a minute, the damn thing also known as the voices in your head. Perhaps my tattoo tells me to do it. Casey, thanks for the increased pledge. We appreciate it very much. Zach Golaher, Jonathan Pierce, Dylan Smith. How

about the kid? How about Joseph Nubauer pumping up that pledge? We love it, Paul writes Nit Pickery. While I think your overall point about Men's Rumble winners almost never winning and the main event is sound, I think it is worth noting days these days, Becky Lynch and Bianca bell Air did both win the Rumble and the main event of WrestleMania in recent years. Boss. Yes, no, it's true. No, listen, I'm with you.

But if you look at the Men's Rumble in the last you know, the last god maybe like twenty thirty years whatever it is now, it's not been that it's been. The majority is otherwise. I think the first time it really really came to my attention was the uh it was I think the Alberto del Rio win. Yeah, And it was just kind of like that was the most artigious one by mine, because because you think they're gonna fucking okay, it's like, you know, I didn't. I didn't buy the rumble

win at all. It wasn't something that I was excited about. But okay, we're here, so go with it. And no, and then it just seemed like and he lost to Edge who were tired the next night, right, right, exactly? Can't you know, I understand if you don't want to go with Alberto, but have the foresight to have him win the rumble, because at that point, all you're doing is hurting the rumble, right, which is like one of your key assets and should be something that

people can rely on to send a signal. That's part of why people are so pissed about Cody. I swear to god, it's it's it's not so much Cody as it is. They're so mad that they still believe that the winner of the rumble matters, right, and when they realize that that can just as easily that that's not any more sac or saying than anything else. They tell themselves as a rule of thumb about wrestling that WW can do whatever the fuck they want want and you will continue to page exactly. I agree.

I agree with that that that's really what it is. I don't think people would have its problems as part of it. I think I think people would be fine, would be more or less fine with it if fucking rock was in the rumbland one. That's right, if they had their fucking head on straight ahead of time in terms of like, if we know we're going rock Roman, what is the point and making people you get it? Getting excited about Cody. It's so stupid, right, but we'll see, uh

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it. Welcome to the You think you think people, you think anybody calls them backstage Mark Hank. I think the chances there And I never say this about Mark Henry slim to none. I would call him Mark Hank. I feel bad for Chris because he commented under our coverage of Last Action Hero under the Cinema, Yes, yes, back last Summer, which I didn't care for at all. He wrote, I must admit it hurt to hear Jack shit on a movie that I'm wah. Yeah, But if TLF has taught

me anything, it's that life is pain, that's right. Yeah, I mean, I'm sorry, I can't it's you know, honestly, I feel like the only reason why I enjoy it is because because I saw it as a kid, and I saw it when it was in theaters and I and I enjoyed it, but you know, and so it has a nostalgia flavor for me. But it's not a great movie at all. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's totally sensible. I mean, we talk all the time in terms of full disclosure when we look at old shows on laps fan mad.

Yeah. Yeah, that that's a huge that that is of course, a part that you cannot disassociate from how you feel about old matches, old wrestlers, old shows. Of course, that's the case. You can you can be diligent and studious about saying, Okay, what are the composite reasons for why this was great? And let's not be so lazy as to say that in every single case ninety eight percent of it is nostalgia, because if you

have a discerning eye, it's probably ten percent nostalgia. And that's not enough of an advantage to say that that's the only reason I think this is better. No, I think this is better for mostly reasons that have nothing to do with what age I am. I found myself after the Lapsed Funk being incredibly nostalgic for the pace, the tone, and the style of nineteen seventies wrestling. I didn knew I wasn't alive in the seventies, So how do you account for that? I mean, it's the same thing I felt with

the von Erics, like all that world class stuff. I was like, right, it's because it was better. That's why we feel the way we do about it. Yeah, now, because we lived it, but because in an honest Frank assessment. You know, the bigger bias is being The bigger bias isn't pstalgia. The bigger bias is anti nostalgia. Right, That's

the more corrosive force. That's the thing that makes people more dishonest, is just constantly striving to insulate themselves from being accused of liking something simply because it took place during their childhood. Yes, the right, the the the absolute not people tie themselves up into avoid being accused of having those rose colored glasses on is doubly absurd compared to people citing their childhood as a reason they love

something. You know, if you're if you're worth a shit, you can explain why it was great, and you're yeah, maybe you're making the case that the way entertainment was conceived, thought of, and produced in your time was superior to the way it's thought of, conceived, and produced today. And come on, when it comes to like the general diet of entertainment that's

out there, you're going to argue that. I mean, I understand that prestige TV streaming ten episodes a season, it's made on the level of cinema, And yes, television blows a blow a minute for a minute, is better if we even consider it television, because they have so many fucking advantages with swears and yeah, you know, hardly any ads if you subscribe to a high enough to year and all that shit that it's really ridiculous to almost

say that, like a TV is better than it was. Then it's a yeah, well, they had to actually make a product that that appealed to people and sold ads back then, I was gonna say, right, like, the difference was is that is that you know, you're not you know, you're not asking for subscriptions. You know, you're not asking for people to fucking pay to watch your shit like you actually had to. That wasn't

even the thing. Now, people wouldn't have done it back then. It was like it had to have a beat on the people, you know. And right, and we're not wants to complain because a show like this could never have thrived in the time period we yearn for. It's too hyper niche, you know, right, So thank god that there's a way to you know, just to demonstrate value by broadcasting obsessively to a niche like this. We love that fact. It does not change, however, the fact that

show for show production for production, dollar for dollars spent. Entertainment produce way better stuff twenty years ago than it does today. There's still great stuff, but I'm talking about the barriers to entry. Used to matter. There, used to actually be people that decided this is worth making and this isn't It wasn't all just a big fucking well, I'll just throw it up there. Because content hours, Thank god, that era is coming to an end.

That was a nauseating time, wasn't it. Yes, streaming services competing with each other because we have fourteen thousand hours and they only have ten thousand. Like you're ever going to watch more than one hundred hours before you're in the fucking grave, I know, Like as if you know, think of a millions of different things you're not gonna watch before you die, right, It's like this is a problem that there's that many hours. That's not a good

thing. I mean there is some component if if it's like a hyper narrow casted thing to a devoted fan base that yeah, having every show ever is awesome conceptually. Having every sl available is awesome conceptually. And I'm not saying people don't go back and watch them. It's it's that is, that is a value, that there's a there is money that that's worth. But that is not a proposition to me, to the consumer. That's not like this

is what you're getting if you buy it. That's almost always like a fringe benefit. I'll even say that about the network. You know, obviously it is. I mean, considering how many people watch the archive stuff. I mean, they can't people trip over themselves to to say that, you know, no one watches the old stuff because they're to watch the old stuff because right, they're very favorably with the current stuff, right or vice versas so.

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Stardust to wrestle Inia. This fucking hell. There's no way he gets through the rest of his WWE career without having to put that on one more time, even if it's just for like a they'll tell themselves it's just for like a little nostalgia, a posography, a Halloween, a Halloween thing. Oh god, yeah, yeah, like a Halloween episode. Well, that's the whole reason they brought him back is to eventually make him do that. Veterans, right, listen, listen, listen. All right, here's the Deal's

boss wants to deal. Well, we know, we know, we know what Vince nick Mann said, we know what laps Vince said about about Cody. But let's not forget too that Cody brought a sledge hammer to the throne. Oh all right, And and I'm sorry, but I don't think and try to turn himself and Brandy in contriplation stuff. Hated them so much they try to become them, and that I don't. I don't think Triple H forgets, Absolutely not. There's no way he's Triple H if he forgets stuff

like that. He is the most like grudge harboring guy like you've ever heard of. Yes, absolutely, his face, his bald head is glasses. His like that the Tony uses in press conferences. Can you like think about it? Think about him like hearing an annoying idea in like a conference room, all right, and he's looking down at papers, and he looks up eyes over the glasses, just with the complete oh, you feel like you want to die in your seat, Yes, exactly, makes you feel like

you're two feet tall. But he doesn't say anything. He just says it with his face. Yep. And then when you leave the room, he talk shit, that's the power of the game. And when the light's on, he tends his fingers on the table like he's I guess you could say that's the way the game is played. You can hear the jangle of the

four thousand bracelets he wears on the tabletop. I mean, I hope folks realize by now that most of it, in terms of business, most of it is the sound that your cufflinks make when it hits the top of the

tabletop, the glass tabletop. Yes, And the way you move your hands and sweep something away, or the bullshit where you like move your coffee cup one hundred times while you're talking, or the way you like or the way you're you know, when you stroke your beard the yea, the sound it makes people who have glasses just so they can take them off when they make a comment. Yeah, please stop with all this performative nonsense. I'm so

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Jesse. I think it's Savage. I think Savage is the one that pops me the most, but just because because because you know, I think it's because there's there's so much emotion in his voice as it is, you know, the coming out that you really don't need, you don't need fuck, And so when it happens, it's just like it's like, well, wait, like put whose ship like you don't need it exactly right, you don't need it, and so when it happens in right exactly I love that.

Like the first time you said big fucking beef, doing the same, Jim, it's a T shirt. That's how good that. Gotta have spice, gotta have this big fucking beef, this idea that just stopped the commercial shoot Cat, you know, because he can't not say fuck. I think he said I got my taking my head or something. So so oh my god, Cold Stone Steve Austin honed right in on something that I totally agree with.

That Under the Cinemat episode ninety nine on The Wrestler the two thousand and eight Mickey Rourke picture one of the best, he writes new UTC masterpiece, maybe the best ever, Jack tossing out ladies and gentlemen left and right as is only approachriate absolutely Mickey Warick saying about the ending, I hope he dies. It's the you know what's funny, you know what's interesting. I don't think there's been one since that actually ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, I don't

think I don't. Yeah, I don't force it. No, And that's what I love about it. I love that that that it it truly it truly I want to keep you hunting for those money flights. Yep, yep, so that maybe. I mean it's all and it's all a thing like I sit there and I and I say to myself, I wonder I I It's like I don't think about it until it happens. Yes, and then when it happens, I'm like, oh shit, this this is going to be it. This is going to be it. Yeah. I mean that's

that's a huge motivating factor for me. When I research episodes. It's like, is this going to pop the boss? And I don't mean just make you laugh. I mean it's going to be a moment like I'm presenting my findings to you. It goes back to reading the observer, Yes exactly. It goes back to dropping information on you that that you just didn't know about. Yep. That's the joy of that. Yeah, And the fans and the listeners get to share on that. But that's really why we're doing it.

Yeah, that's it. That's all it's always been, right exactly. Okay, new UTC masterpiece, maybe the best ever. Jack tossing out ladies and him and left and right, Mickey Work saying about the ending, I hope he dies. It's the only thing for him. Yes, about the about the Randy the Ram character, Jack saying he would say cunt to James Lipton's face JP, JP lying that he loves E. C W and t NA and his cameo requests you just fut it. No, I heard it.

I didn't. I didn't have time times and not to say it's never happened. No, no, oh my god. Honestly, you know, big man, I say that. I say that as much again to to get it, to get a pop out of you and listeners. Honest to god, that's always what it is like. I don't I say it like partially to like kiss ass, but mostly it's like I want people to hear me say this. If you didn't say that, they'd still probably give you the same cameo, right right. Ernest Miller saying Rickie Mickey warr he's so

different than me. Asking fucking Kevin Nash what his favorite classic film was like that was it was only to fucking have him go into that ship. Yeah, and just fucking yeah. Do you think I really wanted to know what Kevin Sullivan's snow shoveling routine was when we asked him at startcast, Oh so fucking great. Do you think I really wanted to know what hul Cochin has

for breakfast? When we asked Brian fucking Knobs to answer the question, we better come, we better come to Philly with some clean fifty dollars bills, any questions to answer? That's exactly exactly Selim heard back from Warlord. Have we gonna fucking shoot up to shoot that cash out? Fucking like a like

a goddamn card dispenser. Next the next time in my move, I thought about this because if you if you follow us on Patreon, last time we were on the ground to wrestle me and you you know, we do live journaling for patrons only audio journalist as we you know, take in the environs

of the Carney Show coming to town. And so we were at the Wrestlicon Hotel in La and Barbarian and Warlord were there with their manager Guy, and I wanted to ask Warlord about putting his ear up to the courtroom door in the Vince trial and other things I'm sure you can't wait to talking about MM and they asked us forty questions before we can ask them one, and then

they have to write our number down. Look back in touch with this later because they're so busy sitting there twiddling their fucking fucking sitting there fucking jerking off under the table. That was before we rentedto Brian Knobbs, where I realized here's the move. You say, hey, guys, can I pay you two hundred dollars to do a five minute interview? And they'll say no, and then you walk away and then they'll wait a minute. Yeah, that's

exactly. That's just the counter with a number. They'll go not forget it, and then they'll that's it worked with Brian, it works with all of them. They're just you know, they just want to look. Look. All they want to do is make sure that they don't have to pay for their lunch. Yeah, they've told themselves their stars, so they've told themselves their time as much. Yeah, and their time is not there is no

longer money, but we're willing to humor them. Yes, if their time was money, they would not be at this convention, right, Ernest Miller saying Mickey Warwick looked like an old ass DDP that's funny, discussing bagels with the Aronofskys and getting salmon from the locksmith Terry Gross saying wrestling is the theater

of cruelty and suffering. When talking about the sex scene in Rahway, Jack said he was doing her the Rahway too many great moments to mention that it was delightful listening to the live call of Mickey slinging egg salad as reference to God's nothing better than him, fucking it's the ultimate scene, the ultimate scene, slinging, slinging. It does, but it's fucking just Hey, don what are you? What are you beautiful? What are you? What do you have for me? And Nash nailed it in that cameo, like you

can't get away with iron Claw because the wrestler got made. So you can't tell me, you know what I mean, that you have to make a shit wrestling, no shit wrestling movie. That's unfair. You can't tell me that I can that because I'm such a hardcore wrestling fan that I can't enjoy a wrestling movie that I can't ever be satisfied. You can't tell me that because the wrestler got made, and I would watch that movie four hundred thousand fucking times. It's a really good movie, you know, like it's it's

a really really good movie. It deserved all the all the Academy Award nominations it got. But you know, you look at the story of Von Erics and you think that that deserves an Academy Award nomination before you even make the fucking movie. I mean, in reality, it does. It does in theory, but it's not an execution, not not this not this version. But like the only reason you would think that that it isn't worthy is because you know, the Von Eric's story is such bullshit. It's a bad movie.

It's a bad movie. More time, I was kind of I was light on it. Right afterwards, I didn't I wasn't impressed, but I was. The more time passes, I'm just like, yeah, that was nothing. Man. No one can no one can look back and be like, yeah, man, like I know, Adele said, zach Efron did a good job, but that's about the extent of it, especially because like the fucking I mean, look how quickly it died. I mean, there was so much there was so much hype going on. They were trying so

hard, and it died a fucking miserable death. It did. It did well second week. Actually, it did way better a second week than you had any Yeah, I mean well, I mean I'm talking about like in terms of recognition and totally and and and you know, you know, there's nobody, you know, the moment it came out, people stopped talking about it. Maybe did well box office wise, but nobody was talking about it,

and it was it was only a matter of time. It's amazing, It's amazing, clearly, you know, when it comes down to the finderic movie is coming gone, we're on the other side of it being made so bizarre. It's it is bizarre. It is bizarre. And you know again it's it's a it's a damn shame. Like I meant, and I was selling. I was selfish, I really I just wanted I wanted Holt to get nominated, just to oh, yeah, hear him say particular podcast of anybody in the movie. He did, he did, absolutely he did.

But yeah, what I mean, I guess it did well. I'm looking at the box office right now. We don't know, though, I'll never know because you never really know in terms of because the budgets that they put out there. We don't know if it's the actual budget or if it's or if it's you know, just their production budget and not talking about their marketing budget, which usually doubles the budget. Whatever it is. I see,

Yeah, I mean, I just remember hearing the box office returns. I remember Meltzer looking at him and it was like it actually went up week two, which movies never do. Yeah, so there was a positive buzz. It was that holiday thing too. The first week two was like Christmas week, and I know that's a good movie going week in theory, but the week after Christmas, to me, is is also just as likely to be

shore of course. Yeah, I mean that whole that whole holiday week is is uh, the week between Christmas and New Year's is always good box office. People are going to go to the movies, terrific. You know, it's a chance, it's a chance for people to go. I mean, I used I used to love that. There were there were a couple of friends that I had like that would be a thing, like it was a time to kind of get caught up on movies that we may have missed. I love it so much the end there, Oh, it makes me so

happy. I was so glad we could get that done before Christmas to get a lot. Yeah, me too. That that was fun. That was a lot of fun and cold Stone Steve Austin continues, I don't know if she did as much training and on screen wrestling as Mickey work, but Florence Pugh played page and fighting with my family. Would she be eligible? If so, you could do a feature Barbenheimer run with her in Oppenheimer and Johnson and Barbie seen. It was also the new animated team. That's true,

that's true. Now we got a lot of John Johnson is doing a lot of stuff. One of these days. I do want to see Actually I do, Oh god, I do. I liked uh wrestling, wrestling with my family, even my family. Whatever the fun was. That was pretty good. Actually, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. It's you know, I wanna I'm waiting for a good time to do it. It's there, of course and qualifies. Gee yeah, I mean it's one of the easiest ones. Stephen Dame, thanks very much for the pledge. We appreciate

the support. Man Adam writes TLF in tough times. This message is a sincere thank you to TLF and the lap solar system, for always being there for those of us in need, each laugh, each amazing deep dive, the hours of research from both co chairs, from cucks to carnies to gluttonous grapplers and everything in between. I've said it before, I still don't know how the fuck you do what you do in in Oh Man, You're you're

coming strong though, You're you're blowing my mind on cinemata every week. If you folks, I'm telling you, boss, he's learned well, Grasshopper, I can't. Yeah, I mean, it's just like I don't. I just don't understand how the fuck you put it all together in that amount of time because I'm always I'm there. You know, I certainly do have a pattern of sorts. But you know there's sometimes I mean, I guess here's what it is. I don't know how you do it and have you know

a day job life. Yeah, that's what it is. Really well, you know what it is. It's like when I think about it, because people ask me this often, it's like, it's the reason I do the podcast is because I have enough already in my instincts, because I knew the subject so well to begin with that I don't have to ramp. Like if I taught somebody how to do what I do, they would never be able to do it in a short period of time because their mind wouldn't be as

full of the shortcuts to get to the stuff. Yep. You know, I was like absorbing all of the kind of stuff that we touch on already before we even had a podcast, just so like, you know, who said what when, where's the shoot interview, where's the book? Where's the right? Which newspaper is most likely to have covered it? What? You know? What documentaries WW come out with? When did the Observer cover this?

Like these little things, And it's like, can't discount the head start that gives you when you can sit there without looking up a single thing and say this is almost definitely where it is. You know, so many of

the wrestling books are chronological, you know, which helps so much. Yeah, totally, if you talked about it, it's probably especially this sort of like this absolute explosion of wrestling books in the past like twenty years or fifteen, ten years really has been such a wonderful thing because they just fucking lay out the chronology of their whole life and career, and it's so easy to sort of jump in and be like, all right, if you said anything,

it's going to be here, and wrestlers repeat themselves over and over again. So it's not like, oh man, he did thirty interviews, there's thirty versions of the story. No, there's probably just two, right if only if that? Yeah? So whatever? Truly okay, from Cux to Carnies to Gluttonous Grapplers and everything in between. Truly the best podcast around, like many others, and like only half and like one hefty toe headed erstwhile

great booker and shit booker. I've fallen on hard times. Life has gone full heel on me like Larry on Bruno, like a triple H on HBK and twenty oh two, like the Horseman on Sting forty five thousand times. First, I lost the love of my life. I'm sorry, but you know I don't wonder up again. But the said Larry on Bruno. You know, I know, I know the reference, but I immediately thought of Larry David on Bruno. That was the first thing you know on mine.

Oh man, that's he's on the mind. Man. They did a wonderful time getting people dialed in. Did you watch it? No yet. I'm actually I'm actually watching. Uh. I want to wait actually till they're all out. Okay, So I've been watching. I've been watching everything, like all old episodes, and so I'm like, seas he's the last one.

Yeah, he's the last one. Man, It's uh. I've been watching season by season, and so by the time I get to the end of season eleven, all of them will be out and I'll be able to just plow through them. Yeah, and savor it and not you know, I want to Seinfeld Humor finally disappearing. Yeah, yep, yep. So yes, first, I lost the love of my life. I'm sorry to hear that, man. Yes, anyways, I lost my last family member, and just today my oh fuck did the Seattle screw job and kicked me out.

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there. I'll be seeing you guys down the road when things are better for us all and looking forward to another decade of debauched food related wrestling shenanigans. Adam PS. If you're reading this and you're rich, good for you, he says, support the cast, love you, Adam, Good luck, pal. That was awesome, Ryan James, thanks for the meaty and generous pledge he took up the cause. R K. Thanks for increasing the amount that comes our way, Ryan writes, YouTube butt fuckers had to pledge because

I'm no bitch, that's right. And the fact I listening to you guys for eight hours daily is that not enough to justify throwing us some scratch? I mean, what more do we happen too? You know how many pitches of yours do we have to scratch? People? People don't understand when I've

when I've said to them, you know I've said that. How you know when they ask about the podcast, and you know, it goes from this to this, and eventually it comes down to you know, well, you know, I do want to give it a listen, and I'm always like, well, you know you read it, be ready for it, like it's it's it's it's long, like we you know long episodes, Well how

long long? Uh? We average about six hours in episode? What it's like, yeah, you know, and it's weird, like you know, we're we're we're a unique breed because you know, our listeners get angry if it's less than four hours exactly. I always say, the podcast is not that long because we want it to be. The podcast is that long because we don't have a choice, right, because we stop when we're done. That's what's beautiful about it. It is what it is. And I ain't

listen. I'm not gonna fucking you know, you don't want don't you edit it? Like, because I don't want to, right? What do you mean edit it? I don't want to fucking Are you kidding me? It's funny. Is this like a production here? Done? This is a like you want me to go back and edit? Listen, someone's going under someone's gonna pay me, like on a contractual basis if we're gonna be Yeah, Like I understand if someone wants to go back and edit a two hour podcast

down to like an hour ninety minutes, that boring. I decided that's boring. Cut it but you want to, like fucking you want me to cut down a six hour show to ninety minutes. The guts are gone, The guts are gots are gone. And you know, I don't know how we got ten years under our belt to prove this. Someone's super One person finds boring is what someone else finds completely indispensable. Yes, how do you score

goals? You take as many shots as you can, right, And I'm sorry that other podcasts don't have the wherewithal or the ability to keep up with that, or don't necessarily think it's worthy. Good on them, you know, you know what it comes down to. You know what it comes down to. And and I get to say, just because I don't you got it hard. I I listen, you know, because I listen to stuff

because when I'm looking, mainly it's for cinemat. So when I'm looking for stuff I look, I often look to podcasts to see if so and so, if they've talked about a movie. But I but I but I've learned. I learned within the first like six months of doing cinemat that a podcast talking about a movie isn't giving me shit because nine and nine hence out of the time, it's just two people talking about how they feel about the movie.

Yeah, which is nobody's actually done, which is fine, right, But like, but I want to know so limited, Yes, and I want to know how it was built, how was put together? If we're taking this much time, Like, I don't understand, Like you have to. You owe it to yourself to say something definitive, don't you. I mean that's to me, it's not even worth hitting record unless you can bring work to the table. Yeah, maybe I'm just like weird about it.

I don't think I know, because I mean I think we think of it as it's it's it's more than that. I think I think there's there's truth that that. That's what I want to I want to uncover. I don't

want to just give my opinion. I want to say, look, this is what happened, and this is fucking crazy, or this is amazing, or look how brilliant this person is, or look how fucking crazy this person is, Look how dumb this person was, Look how you know this is why this person is is a legend like that that's yeah, it's the passion for the material. It's not us being in love with our idea of ourselves. Yeah, a lot of podcasts are that way. It's kind of like,

you know, I'm interesting. It's like, well, no, you know, maybe what you have to say about something is interesting, but the something has to have some right rigor to it. I mean, fortunately we are interesting, so that works too. You got to talk this way, folks. I don't know why people don't get this like this, and no one's going to give you your flowers in life. Oh, you got to give them to yourself. Self care. That's what we practice around Yeah,

self care right, and self tearing too. When it comes to drilling a new anus, Ryan says YouTube butt fuckers had to pledge because I'm no bitch, and the fact to listen to you guys for eight hours daily. I work a factory job forty hour weeks. Yes, and the great thing is I get left alone and get to have one earpiece, and so that ear

spends every shift getting penetrated by your two venue members. I have so many stories of work life, like the time my boss was yelling at me for some shit I'd done wrong, and I was smiling because I could hear was JP doing the Ringmaster theme. God to release at the mood that's great, What a great story. I'm obsessed with those. By the way, I'm obsessed with stories. If people who are listening to us when they should be

present, Oh man, it's a deep cut. I forgot all about that one or the time a girl from work had to leave because of a serious injury. But I had a smirk on my face because you two were explaining a story about w CW referee Mickey j in a hotel room with a prostitute with one leg on the bed, pulling his brick while crying about his ex wife. Oh, I'll tell you, there's nothing gives me great enjoying the idea of these fucking, fucking carnies in a motel with a prostitute like it

just gives me absolute pleasure. Mickey Jay didn't stand a chance that week, not a chance. We were going to have our way until no one could think of him in any other way besides how we say if you're it's like, it's like what cousin Eddie says in Christmas Vacation. He's gont been a little bit at Mississippi leg Hound in him. But between you and me, it's just best to let him finish gods right, so many more stories maybe for another day. Keep up the great work, gentlemen. You guys are

fucking awesome. Thanks Ryan. I mean, I couldn't be more thrilled to hear that and can't wait to hear more dispatches from the front. Ben Wrights just watched this movie for the first time. Listening along, I think about the wrestler. Oh, I think Rock really portrays that sort of above it.

Let's just get the shit over with air about some veterans well, with the way he walks over matches, talks over matches rather and comes down to the ring, like how he just slides in without playing to the crowd. That is true. He does get that little chip on the shoulder thing down perfectly, Yes, Like he's a sad, pathetic, sad sack and he knows that, and he's he's just as ready to wallow and self pity as

any broken down wrestler. That's why guy in fucking two thousand and eight is playing fucking Nintendo right, you know, right exactly, But he still gets down that little bit of you know, cock of the walk body language where when he's among other wrestlers, he's still he's still able to carry this idea that he's worth a lot more than you're paying him, and he knows it. Yes, Tim l thanks very much for the increased pledge. We appreciate

it. Looks like you were looking for some cinemat content. Hope you enjoy it. Neil writes on further to the wrestler, he says, something I'm thinking about is Piper spinning the wrestler into an uplifting story about what people like him give up for the fans. To every normal person the movie, he is a tragedy. But if you are inside wrestling, you cannot confront the waste. Wasted lives, wasted families, wasted money, wasted bodies. It

had to have been for something right. He also writes, what makes Randy such a unique character is you think much less of him by the end of the movie, ding ding ding ding ding. Yes, Yes, that is Darren Ronofsky's genius in this film, in my opinion, is exactly that work plays Him is very charming and gracious in the beginning, but as the movie goes on and as you see wrestling be taken away from him, he seeks a very one sided kind of adulation from his daughter a prospective girlfriend, people

at work, et cetera. You reach the conclusion at the end that this is someone who isn't really interested in reciprocating love in any meaningful way. It's about what the world can give him, and all the doe eyed speeches and meaningful gestures are just a means to an end. Let's fucking go, Yes, let's fucking go. That's so true. That's it. That's it in

a fucking nutshell, that's the progress. That's the pro wrestler. They memorize the forms and the mannerisms of somebody that appears to have a deep humanity and is worthy of your sympathy or empathy. But that's just one tool in their toolbox. Pal yep, and until cold cash is slapped into their palm, nothing's real. Rich Molton, thank you very much. We appreciate the pledge. Justin Hornicker, thanks for increasing the amount of cake coming our way.

Our very good friend Gordon out in Long Island has written to us in regards to our rumble nine eighty eight slash Bucking Stampede eighty eight January eighty eight. Wars Arab shows that we did and he's got some great perspective love. The January eighty eight shows got me reminiscing about the good old days. I simply remember the excitement around the Royal rumble was off the charts, and the Hog and Andre contract sign was headline news among friends in my second great classroom.

Also, the timed battle royal concepts seemed really intriguing to us, as we immediately began replicating it with our ljns. Here's the funny part. I lived just twenty minutes away from the Nassau Coliseum and it was like my second home for w shows. I saw at least a dozen cards there across eighty six and eighty seven. Now, the NWA's bunk House Stampede was happening as stone's throw away from my home, and guess what what, I had no idea.

The NWA was like a distant relative I'd heard of but never really knew. I was aware of guys like Dusty Flair and the Road Warriors primarily for magazines, but I'd occasionally see them on TV. It just wasn't appointment viewing. And somehow they failed to hit me with any marketing of this event, despite the fact that I was there. Target demographic I was a seven year old kid obsessed with wrestling who lived the Stones Throwers away from the coliseum.

Everything about the NBA was second rate. I'd tape Clash of the Champion shows and keep up with them peripherally, but I didn't really watch regularly until the early to mid nineties. Something I found hilarious was when I later found out

about the show. I thought that the NWA was copying the WWE's bunk House Battle Royal gimmick, well the other way around, but I had seen it at the coliseum previous Excuse me leading someone who observed a live in person WWF bunk House Battle Royal pre rumble leaping Lanny in his dumbass suit of armor and all that shit. Little did I know that Vince was stealing an NWA gimmick and basically making fun of that. But not stealing is the wrong word.

Lampooning would be more right, right right at any rate ausome shows, I particularly enjoyed laps, Bob Coddle, Why did you say what? I particularly enjoyed lapse? Bob Coddle promoting the WWE's NBC show off the WA paper few. He's confused, I don't know what, they'll give him just a hard time about that. Oh my god, I've forgot about that. Well, Jim Tony WWF is on tonight, and well, Jim, I'll tell you on free TV the WWE is putting on a royal rumble, way better competitors

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Jesus, I finally finished this today and want to say that this is probably the best podcast ever made any genre. Oh Jesus Christ, I don't remember this email at all. It's the perfect movie for the cast, and JP did a wonderful job of research and presenting everything that makes this a classic movie. I don't know if Mickey Orke is still doing okay or not, but I hope he is, and the way you presented his story is so well done. Bravo, gentlemen here worth every penny. Do you think it's

going to end well for Mickey Rourke? Ultimately, this is a renaissance that's now like twenty years old. Almost. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if he's see I don't know if it's bad. I mean, he certainly has had some good shit, but in terms of I mean, I don't know what his last movie was, for God's sake, but I think it was the the Sin City remake. Maybe that's a that's a while ago too. That is like the yeah, fact we don't know says a lot.

Yeah, Like I mean, he's done. I'm looking at him right now and I mean, just he's back to doing a bunch of shit that I've never heard of. Yeah, you know, like, yeah, I don't know. I mean, is it going to go. I think he's fine. I don't know if it's going to be like the tragic end that we may have we might have seen earlier on. But in terms of like is he going to get back, I mean, you know, I guess, yeah, I guess since the city had deigned to kill for it is

ten years old, that's the last thing I remember him. But he's done a bunch I mean he works again. He works every year. I don't know how much money he's making. Uh. Oh, he was in the Rowan Polanski movie for fox Sake the Palace last year, and they get better, you know. I so, dude, there's similar. There's so many movies out in these days. There are so many fucking movies out And I think I've said this before. It's it's it's it's one of the things that

I always hope. I always think I know the movies that are gonna be uh, that are gonna get that where I'm gonna get screeners for the SAG Awards, Like I always think I know the movies that are that I'm gonna get, and then I get none of them, and it's a bunch of fucking movies that I've never even heard of and could care less about. Wow, And it's so frustrating because that's that's kind of the world. I mean, talk about it used to be better. I mean, I'll say movies

used to be better. Yeah, I'm not saying that that that that movies that that there aren't great movies. Now there certainly are. But in terms of like you you don't know about the good ones, or you don't hear about movies or or or there are so many movies that are being made that it's like it just oversaturates the output of it all, and it's like, I can't I used what I used to love about. It's why I don't

really give a shit about awards anymore. I used to love awards. Oh my god, I used to write these wonderful Yeah I remember, yes, who who will win? Who should win? Great synopsies of all the films that were up for consideration. I used to love being like because you I would always have a movie to root for, because like, the movies that were being nominated were were like everyone knew about them. And I'm not saying that these movies that aren't good that that get that win and get nominated.

But what's frustrating is that more often than not, it's movies that I don't fucking ever even hear about. And that's the shame too, in that these great movies are being ignored. But I'm also like, you know, that's what the Independent Spirit Awards are about, you know, fucking let them have that, don't give them yeah something he said for that, you know, Like, I don't think it necessarily makes sense that movies on an independent budget

should compete with big studio movies for awards. I've always been against that.

I've always I've always been against against network shows. Yeah, seriously, it's true, Like they should have their own sense of Emmys, and for god's sake, they got their fucking goddamn idiotic local Emmy Awards for every other fucking exactly mom and pop. Like, you know, you should have your your your your h whatever you call it, what premium cable Emmys and then your fucking bar let's do it weight classes, you know, based on a budget.

Yeah, right, Best movie five hundred thousand or less best movie. You know what I mean, Yep, let's do it. I'm not I'm not afraid of it. Why are you afraid of it? I'm by all that. I don't mean you part for it. Fucking fuck Christ then people would then people would ca fave their budgets, right of course, of course, want to watch play out? Oh my god. Speaking of a Bob Coddle, Bez makes a point we always failed in that reference when Bob Caddle

comes up, which is important. It should be noted that Bob Caddle was very close with one of the most racist politicians new US history, Jesse Helms. Oh yes, Coddle was Helms's legs lave assistant and worked on his nineteen seventy two Senate campaign. I don't think it's far fetched to suggest that old Bob is likely a bigoted motherfucker. Oh I'm sure he is. You kidding me? Behind that innocent uh oh you know visage that that that good old

papa face, you know. Can you imagine him like going in a rage like order, if like the fire hoses to be used to get orders, being comfortable with it, thinking that we have to crack down, like if he if he had a daughter. You know, oh she had like he style, Yeah, which she had like a fucking you know, a boyfriend or a girlfriend of color. I mean god, we can imagine if you had a girlfriend a girlfriend, let alone a girlfriend of color. Fuck.

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line, Sean teaches Vince how to be cool? Oh my God. As Lapstack's approaches, I've felt compelled to sort of honor you, most importantly with my Patreon dollar, but also by sharing with you my favorite moments from that cast. My favorite journey ever is Montreal. I've listened to the entire journey several times over and will listen to it several more times. I was able to obtain backstage audio of Vince asking Sean Michaels to teach him how to be

cool. I transcribed it and is included at the end of his email. You guys got me through the worst period of my life. Last year. My mom passed away rather suddenly from a violent end stage cancer. Apologies man, sympathies. That's that is uh, I can't even I can't. I did not leave her hospital room for the last week of her life except to get food, and your podcast was the only way I could even remotely relax, relax and lessen my tears so I could portray strength from my mom and

my sister's. Yes. Yes, I'm forever indebted to both of you for helping me during that time and the difficult year that has followed. I hope this transcription makes you laugh like it did for me. They likely will. I just had to to Oh god, okay, I think it was definitely your calling here. Oh my god, we think got me other it is. Oh my god, you're gonna be Sean. Uh yeah, sure, let me please, you gotta be se I need to be Sean. I

can't do Sean as well as you can. John. I've been thinking, you know, about this whole entertainment thing, and well, I've come to the realization that I need a bit of help, a touch of finesse if you will. You want to learn to dance, Vince, Well, not just dance, Sean, I want to be cool. I've watched you over the years, and you've got that charisma, that that swagger. I need some of that Sean Michael's magic. You bet you've been in the business for

decades, Vincy, you practically built. It's got your wanting to dance and be cool. Now, Jack, let's be clear. You know we're not in the wrestling business anymore. It's all about entertainment. That and notwithstanding, I feel the need to connect with the audience on a different level. Dancing, being cool, it's all part of the show. You see, I get it. Vince. So you want me to teach you how to dance and be cool? Yes, exactly. You're the heartbreak kid, the showstopper.

You've got that magnetism. Teach me your secret, Shawn. All right, Vince, let's start with some basic dance moves. Have you ever done the moonwalk? Like this? Close? But ah, got some work to do, my friend. Okay. Moreover, it's it's not just about the moves. It's it's about the attitude, the confidence. You've got to own the stage. I can do the show and when I'm out there, remember it's not wrestling, it's pure entertainment. You got a Vince, We'll turn

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thank you for your support on Patreon. Mike asks the question, I'll give this one to you. I think it's to bret up your wheelhouse subject line who should play? We've talked about this before, Vince McMahon. Oh, especially in light of recent developments as lapsex approaches, I felt compelled to sort of honor you, most importantly with my Patreon dollar, but also by sharing with you my favorite moments from that cast. My favorite Wait a minute, I read this one. Journey is mont No, wait a minute,

I read that one right. Wait a minute, no, no, yes, hello chairman. Sorry, I was having a discussion with my friends about who should play Vince McMahon a movie or mini series. I'd like a lapse ruling to on some names that came up that I thought were good or interesting. Michael Shannon, Uh, do we want to go through these now? Michael Shannon, Josh Brolin, Brian Cranston, Joe Joel Edgerton, Tom Hardy, Jon hamm Alec Baldwin. Some names were that were suggested that I just

don't see being very good. I'd like to get elapsed ruling when you guys with you guys on these as well. Nicholas Cage, Robert Downey Junior, Christian Bale, Bradley Cooper, Michael Keaton. Thanks for all that you do and I'm looking forward to future episodes. Oh yeah, for sure, if you ever what I'll never forget what won me over with it is his performance in Hail Caesar, the uh the the Cohen Brothers movie, and at one point he just slaps George Clooney and I'm like, oh shit, this is

Vince McMahan. This is it. I think Josh Brolin is the best choice to play Vince McMahon, hands down. I think he would I think he would fucking nail it. Michael Keaton, I feel like, and I love Michael Keaton. I think Michael Keaton is so great. I just don't know if he's got that there's something about him. Yeah, he's like a little

too quirky. I feel like to be to be vincmick Man, I mean, I I I imagine, I mean, I'm sure I can't picture it in my head, but I'm sure that Robert down and Junior can do it because he's just so fucking brilliant and he can he can metamorphoise into anything. Yeah, but my personal favorite would be Josh Brolin hands down, out of all them. I don't like Brian Cranison, I don't I don't know, I don't know, I don't I don't see it. Josh Brolin would be

fucking perfect. Yep. Yeah, there's the answer, folks. In we we've we've gone through this before and that's that's that's the verdict right there from the camp Shares, I think that's absolutely the best call. Let me look at his face just to be sure. In what role as what do you oh in uh uh Hail Caesar in the movie Hail Caesar. He just he's just perfect in that and Yeah, yeah, that's him. That's absolut dude with the mustache too. Now yeah, exactly right. Oh my perfect at

them pell fucking perfect. Oh they'll make it in our lifetimes. That movie is gonna come out, and it's gonna be so probably after he dies dies, which seems like it might be sooner than later. Well, you talk on episodes about how we were kids, there was people saying w c W was real and w w F was fake. Remember this, Yes, yes, totally British stew Dog and Patreon lets us know can confirm the debate of WCW being real and WWF is fake. Made it to the school playgrounds of

Liverpool, England. Yes, I think he writes it was because of the Flair blade jobs. Of course that would makes sense, Daniel writes, in my local toy shop as a kid, also from the UK, the ww figures were a pound cheaper than the WWF ones. It was either two nine and three ninety nine or three ninety nine and four ninety nine, So I had to stock up in the globes as that was the best way to make my pocket money go further. So that's probably why so many people had Dad

galubs. Oh he likes wrestling, I'll buy the cheaper of the two I love, Yeah, exactly. Oh shit, I'm gonna buy these two ninety nine fucking things. Do you remember galubs being cheaper than hasbros? Uh? Maybe like buy like a dollar, yeah or something like that. It's funny. I don't think my I don't think anybody ever bought me galubs. I think I bought them myself. I bought them for my definitely bought for me because I was like, what are these now? I never I never bought

I never, they were never bought for me. I definitely was like because because so many of them at the time were in WWEE that I was like, oh shit, this is like the roster that I can't fucking find. Sure. You know amazing, man, those gallub figures. What a fucking time to be a live, right, I fucking I mean speaking a price choice. One time I tried to take the tag off a cheaper one and put it on a more expensive one to see if at I'd get the cheaper

price. Uh. No one told me about barcodes, so oh they did, Sam. That kind of sucked, Adam. One of my favorite WW moments is right after Doom breaks up, speaking of globs. Right after Doom breaks up, they interview some young black child in the crowd and ask him his favorite wrestlers Doom, He says in a dejected tone. Wow, just broken up. A microcosm and future glimpse of how wrestling and especially life will always be disappointing in the end. This is why it's one of the best

moments in the history of bullshit buffoonery. It's a good thing to hone in on right there, Yeah, William Wright's unsmoking. I was at the Brian Pillman Memorial Shit in nineteen ninety nine. They held silent auctions for wrestler donated items in Rick flare m Seed, where he would invite the two highest bidders to the ring for a final auction. There were some pretty high end items, like a ring worn Flair robe. I was a poor college student, so I had a bit only on one thing. I thought I had a

chance at an autographed Al snow head. I was still surprised when I got called into the ring. I was standing there in the ring with the other bidd Al snow and Rick Flair, but back and forth got to one hundred fifty dollars and the other guy jumped to two hundred dollars. Sanity hit me and I realized that I didn't want a mannequin head that badly and bout out. I returned to my seat with my friends, who screamed at me for

not going higher. I was coming down from the adrenaline rush from the auction, and since it was nineteen ninety nine, I went to find a play somewhere in the small arena to pound a cigarette. I should say that security was non existent, and I somehow found my way to a loading dock with a door open. As I'm staring out the bay door having my smoke, I hear a door open behind me and Nancy Penoah walks over. WHOA, and I think I'm going to get thrown out of the building, but she

comes up and asks me for a cigarette. I give her one and she makes a little small talk. I only knew her from WCW at the time, but I told her that I was a fan of her and Chris, but not wanting to be a total douche, I mostly left her alone. She finished her smoke and said wait here. She went back in the door. She came back from and came back shortly with the murderer. She brought a home. She said, My wife said, you're a fan. I said I was, and that he was one of the best parts of WCW.

I'm about six feet tall and I had easily four to six inches on him, but his fucking torso was over twice as wide as mine. And of course he was being nice to me, but he was still terrifying. That's right. Thanks for the dispatch, will Oh, that's what we're looking for. Ah, those moments that only a lapsed fan can appreciate the gravity of. Chris writes the Book of JR. Oh Boy Chairman. I will probably need to build this theory up into a more fully developed piece. However,

I am out of time today. And the brief discussion about Jim Ross I heard at the start of the Revolution twenty twenty Deep Dive brought a comparison between JR. And the Book of Job from the Bible. Job quote was blameless and upright. He feared God and shunned evil. God let Satan test Job to see if Job would deny God by taking everything from him. The devil did everything he could to Job get Job never cursed or denied God what

was happening to him now? JR, by his own admission, is not blameless, but is mostly upright and has mostly shunned evil as much as one canon wrestling here is was JR. Here, here is what, here is what JR. Has been tested with the top of my head. Some of these may be out of order, and apologies for the block of text here. Jr. Has had two divorces, sold his house in Texts at a huge loss after JCP was sold to Turner after about six months, lost his

job when Eric Bischoff took over WSW, was hired by Vince. Probably still has some appliances in storage in Atlanta. Fired by Vince, brought back by Vince. Made to move to Connecticut, fired by Vince, brought back by Vince. Lost his health, had he give up his job with the Atlanta Falcons that he really enjoyed, had a disastrous heel turn, watched his best friend get beat up for real by Bart Gunn and brawl for all, lost his mama, had an attack of Bell's palsy during a pay per view,

backstabbed by Johnny as out of his talent relations job. Traded a SmackDown on live television without knowing it, made to train his replacement without knowing it, replaced by the guy he was training, brought back again when the new guy

didn't work out. Humiliated every time the company went to Oklahoma, including an ugly blade job to help sell Austin's heel turn after Main's seventeen, Constantly berated by Vince and Kevin Dunn, made fun of, almost made fun of almost everyone in Vince's inner circle, probably a bye right made fun of by almost everyone in Vince's innercer. Had his boss make fun of his colon surgery in a segment on live television, had his boss specifically tell Jr. And his

wife to make sure to watch that segment live. Ease to the sideline. His wife and the love of his life is killed in an accident just before he has scheduled to work Mania thirty three, signed to a deal but never used by Vince, losing his health again and just moved to the B and C shows with a e W. All of this, Jr. Has never denied wrestling or even the people in wrestling who have done this to him.

A quick refresher from eight years of Catholic school and a quick Google search reminds me of that Job learned the hard lesson that when everything is tripped away from our lives, all we have is God. Wow, and God is enough. No matter how bad life gets, God's love and his grace are enough. Can that be translated into JR learned the hard lesson that when everything is stripped away from our lives, all we have is wrestling, and rolling is

enough. No matter how bad life gets, Wrestling's love and its grace are enough. In closing, JR so beloved because he is one of us. Think of all the tragedy, criminal behavior, stupid segments, and times we have been made the butt of the joke by the people running the quote sport we love, yet we are still here. That's correct. We us are all Job, we are all JR. Just something to think about thoughts. There's absolutely right. I feel like I'm doing the job. Yes, heavy

stuff there, pal yep. From Our aw Revolution twenty twenty episode David writes triumphant tragedy over Niagara Falls and an MSG lapsed journey. Greetings co chairs, longtime listener with two accounts, I thought you might enjoy. Sorry for length, My family and I recently took a trip to Niagara Falls. As is my usual routine, I endeavored to read a book about the history of the location prior to going to better appreciate the region. I thus read Niagara,

A History of the Falls by Peter Bertone. One of the later chapters tells the well known tale of one Roger Woodward, who in nineteen sixty eighth age of seven, unwittingly jurneyed over the Horseshoe Falls after an up river boating accident with no protection other than a life jacket. The author describes his final thoughts prior to being hauled over the mammoth Roaring Falls to what he thought was certain

death. He wondered what his parents would do with his pet dog, Fritz, named for his idol Fritz von erik Wow, a local wrestler who lit a feudorus down from the Woodwards trailer. Yeah, this is when Fritz lived

in Niagara Falls and the trailer and Jackie dyed. Amazingly, Roger's tragedy was turned into triumph as he survived the terrifying ordeal, becoming the first and only person to emrge alive after going over Niagara Falls with only a life jacket his protection Thus, while his neighbor, the real life fritzvan Eric lived a life filled with tragedy. I found it somewhat uplifting that Fritz van Erks the dog experienced a triumph of sorts when he greeted younger Roger upon returning home after his

death defying encounter. Or recently, my family journey to NYC to see Billy Joel play Madison Square as part of his famed residency. You've been aching to get over there, Hambas get that text. I was, I was, I had tickets. I had bought tickets for my wife for an anniversary. And then what did you have? They were scheduled for January and the week of the fucking concert, we both got COVID. You had more than tickets, as it turned out. Yep Ah. How would you counsel people to

interpret things like that happening in their lives? Just don't no point here. I was hoping for an uplifting message. No silver lining, none, There's been none so far. People don't talk enough about that. I guess. I guess the silver lining is that you know, I gave my parents a fucking good night out that they never thought they would have had. Yeah, they got to take the tickets, right, Yeah, fucking great. Thanks, Oh you'll get you'll get there. Don't want sorry. Done in July

is done in July. I mean, people don't talk enough about the moments in our lives where we learn nothing, yes, where nothing of value is derived and it's only negative you know, yes, yes, we need to know how to process those too, instead of like, oh, actually it worked out for the It did not work out for the best. Sometimes sometimes it just sucks. It worked out for the worst. How about this right? And it left me thinking it's not worth it. Sometimes it's just a

fucking disaster. I can. Oh, man, let me tell you. I feel bad for the boss, but what he ends up in those situations, it is joy to talk to him. Of course, the ship that comes out of his mouth when he's in that mood. Oh my god, forget it. I mean again, I should have known better. I should have I mean, look, here's the thing, here's the thing. This,

this is the reality of it. Okay. My wife and I have been together since you know, we've been together since since two thousand and nine, and I I don't even remember a time that I have tried to organize us going out that has succeeded, Like every time that I plan something for us, and the irony is that I get you know, it's like, you know, why don't you ever think of stuff to do for us? And it's like because it's not going to work, Like it's just it's not

going to work. And and so I'm like, see what I'm talking about? This this is like so key to life, like how to deal with this? And I'm just like, like, I seriously, I think of I once tried to get us to go on a cruise and it fucking fell through. I tried, I've tried a miss things just and it's like, no, fuck it. Tell me like when you realize that Billy Joel wasn't going to happen? Do you I'm trying to picture like your countenance, your general is it kind of yep? See yep? Or is it like fuck?

Is it anger? Is it like see yep? Of course yep. Absolutely no. I'll tell you. There was a so when when my so my kid was the first one to get it, she got COVID yeah, and I was like fuck, countdowns on, but she was like she wasn't really it didn't really hit her hard. Oh yeah, thank God for that. Absolutely. Then my wife got it and she get and it was like it's like it was okay, Like I was like, okay, I'm like, I'm like, I'm willing to sacrifice twenty thousand other people to go see

Billy Joel. Yeah, we're way past the point where there's any virtue and yeah, yeah, I'm not interested in saving other people. I want to go see Billy Joel. Why about the tickets? Right? And then she like, you know, like the day after she got it, it was it was rough, yeah, and she wasn't good, and I was like, okay, I was like, all right, we can. I was

like, but I'm but I'm okay, hasn't happened. And then the next day I got it and I felt like shit, and it wasn't there wasn't even, there wasn't anger, there wasn't like a moment of it was just like this, I just it's just not going to happen. It was just it was just complete acceptance in it. And that's just I guessious. It's hilarious. It's it's it's it's ridiculous. It's like you know, and and

I was like, yeah, it's just there was just complete acceptance. And it was like, okay, we got to sell the tickets now or whatever, and there was just complete acceptance. Yes, yes, so much. And I just knew. I knew, like there was just no way we were going to be because it was the concert was on a Thursday, and this must have been Tuesday, and it was like, yeah, no,

this is not going to happen. And so maybe it was Wednesday. Probably was Wednesday actually, and and we were going to sell the tickets and then we you know, my I was able to talk my parents into doing because

they weren't. You know, my mom's a wreck physically, and so it was it was not something that my dad was but I was like, I was like, you don't understand, Like, this is actually the best place for you to do it, because having been an employee of Madison Square Garden, I can tell you that their motto is treating their guests better than their employees. Sure, so you're gonna be fine, You're gonna be great. They didn't call the number. They had a great time. They fucking loved

it. So happy to hear that they had a blast. Like, honestly, in some ways, it was like I was great. I was so happy that they were able to do that because they never do shit like that, and and they had an absolutely amazing time. And it was like, you know, I can't eat. I I the last time my parents went to a fucking you know, like rock concert or like pop music concert, God, like sixties, seventies at you. So it was good. It was good. It was definitely good. I'm hoping we can. It's just

hard, you know, we don't fucking you know it is. What's the riskiest thing you could do with life? Make pass? Oh? Absolutely, Like the riskiest thing you can do in life is try I hate getting sick, of course, But what do I hate the most about getting sick. It's the fact that every hour I'm calibrating in my head what it's going to

cost me that I'm sick. And I don't mean work wise, I mean everything plan wise, because I mean, we've now I don't know if people have realized this, they probably have that we've now entered an era where every single holiday there's going to be two or three family members who simply cannot participate because of the ature of COVID. Yes, it used to be that if they were sick around the holidays, they'd still show up, you know and

just kind of stay away from people and feel like shit. And people didn't. But now, like it's not that people are deathly afraid of COVID, but that the the sort of you know, the I don't know how to put it. The cultural expectation is you you don't go, you cancel, right, and you can feel less sick than you would have felt, you know, with with the old cold or something. And still it's like it's a different palculus. God, God, God forbid the host of the fucking

holiday act. Gets it ever gonna be this fucking tap dance thing every year. I hope we realize we've entered this reality that you're talking about here. Yeah, that's it. I mean, that's just it. I mean, there's that is that is the COVID age, you know, that is the

COVID age. We you know, who knows if we actually had an opportunity to fucking if we if we if we actually if people actually had the had the fucking brain to work the herd mentality, if we'd still be here or not in this is the same situation, we might well we might as well, we might have been We might be here anyway we might not have been who the fuck knows, but like we're here, and it's a it is a a A devastating truth, devastating we have, thank you, devastating truth.

There will be it's scary. It's not scary, no, no, but but it'll still pissed off. Yes, exactly. It ruins things for me, yes, exactly. Expectations Expectations are now. I mean, because here's you know, here's the thing too, Like we think people are over it, and then all of a sudden, somebody in your circle gets it, and people's true color comes out, and they don't want them anywhere around.

No, they don't want them in the same country. Nope. I have I have my my wife's partner, the first get together we had. I mean, she is so she is so fucking petrified of getting COVID. No she did, she has now see I thought that would be the the anidote for most, but I guess not like no, no, she's still

petrified of it. And and but she's she's the kind that wears the fucking you know, the the the has mat yeah, yeah, with the strap in the back of the head, yeah, you know what with the and with the mat like the full plastic face mask right right right, well like uh uh dx with sergeant slaughter. You know, are you serious, Like the windshield wipers, yes, well not the windshield wipers, but like that full o, that full plastic face mask. Years oh yeah, yes,

in the wild. She fucking brought that up. I'll never forget the first holiday we had and she's like walking around with this thing on. I'm like, I'm like, look, Jesus Christ, like live a little, like live a little for the lover of Christ. I mean, people were as the people wearing beaeper suits. I know, yep, yep, yep. But like you think you look back at your high school yearbooking, cringe. Wait till you look back at how people were dressed in twenty twenty in terms

of gearch gear. It's almost like it's almost like it wasn't real. It's like with somebody else's life that I'm thinking about so bizarre. It's bizarre thing it really was. I mean, when you think about all that shit, just the mentality that you were in every day was so so unusual that it did not feel like your life. I mean, you had such a it was so it was so bizarre with with the Yeah, just like being shut in and they were like a small a bit of restaurant, a small list

of restaurants, a very limited list of restaurants we'd go to. And every time I go back to one of those, I like get in this weird headspace of like it's almost like a deja vus. It's almost like a but deja vous, the kind where you don't know why you're remembering, like why does this? Why am I feeling like I'm actually revised in a routine I had because I am. But it's a routine that was not It wasn't choice.

It was like, right, it was due to lack of choice that this was my routine because like there was yeah, there were there were a couple of places that you know, we would Yeah, it was so weird. It's such a fucking bizarre time. More recently, he writes, my family journey to NYC to see Billy Joel play Madison Square. That's how we got to that. Yeah, right, I just said, go on my

own laps journey by touring MSG beforehand. You got it so I could appreciate the most famous arena in the world in more relaxed and uncrowded way and reflect upon the many great wrestling moments that occurred there. Although I believe you no longer give tours JP, and envisioned you giving this one during the hour long tour, I was hoping that guy would acknowledge some of the great moments in

wrestling that occurred within the arena alongside I want to know who. I want to know who the tour guide was, and I probably know them also a lot of people who do tours there alongside the other concerts, boxing events and other pivotal moments, but I was not totally surprised when he did not. As we walked around the level concession area, I was enamored by the Claga photos adorning the upper wall of the arena, recounting the great moments that occurred

there. There are hundreds of such photos and I naturally sought out any wrestling related ones with anticipation. The tour guys seemed a bit rushed and I couldn't understand half of what he said as he spoke so fast while hurting the tour group along. I was definitely that guy who lagged behind trying to look at eating every photos, who has not miss any I'm sure you can relate JP. There. There are a lot there there there I think there are three.

There are three wrestling related photos on the on that that that thing there the uh whatever the fuck it's called. They there's obviously WrestleMania one, SummerSlam eighty eight interesting is pictured, and then also there's a picture of Jim Londos. Oh. Yeah, we talked about that. Yeah, you know, coming up on Punchline Philly April seventh. That was kind of the first one,

the first WrestleMania Labs to get together. I mean, we did do at Parking Lot Show Wrestling thirty two in Dallas, but that was impromptu. That was kind of a last minute, was arranged occasion for our fans with ticketing the tour that was that was fun, Like, it was so cool to be able to offer that to people. Yeah, and and and to do like to be able to do a wrestling centric one, which was great because it was like this game of the opportunity to go to all the real

the places that I like to go to. But everyone else, who I fucking you know, everyone every other tour, all the tours that I had, they were like, I don't give a shit. About this phenomenal and to work the co workers into doing the end suddenly that was fun. Fucking that guy. Oh god, he got fired. Oh did he? People wonder about him all the time. Yeah, he got fired. I heard

my friend Mark, who was a tour guy there. He still he's still a tour guy there, although he's he's he's playing on windening it up. But you know, the the the pandemic really changed a lot of MSG internally. And I know he got he got let go, and he was like he was pissed. He was like talking about how he actually said he said, he said something like how I don't know if it was this dramatic,

but like I am MSG or something like that, it's tremendous. Like he had a lot of pride, like in his mind, in his mind he actually said like he's I heard him say this that he was like, how much, how much bigger can you get than than working Madison Square Garden. And I'm like, he bought all that he bought. Dude, you're you're it's different. You're not you're not working Madison Square Garden. You're working at Madison Square Garden. It's different. Guy who's making pretzels over there. So

yeah, it's like the guy making fucking fried chicken sandwiches over there. Oh sounds good. Yeah, kim chi on top, Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I think it's called fuku, but I always called fuck you chicken. In New York, that's what they call it. Yes, And how amazing was it that while we were giving the tour to last fans, yes, they were setting up the Ring of Honor show. Yes, yes, people would look at the ring and see them. Yes, so cool. Yep, it was a lot of fun. It was great that we could do

that. And yeah, it was a lot of fun. I was definitely that guy who lagged behind trying to look at each and every photo, so it's not miss any. I was pleased to locate three wrestling related ones just like you said. Hogan vers Iron Cheek from nineteen eighty four. Mm hm, oh okay, I forgot. I forgot about that one. Hogan tea Piper Wonderful from Tanya one and Hogan Savage DBAs Anddre SummerSlam eight eight to mis Londo's So there are four. So there's four. Then there will pleased with

these somewhat interwhelming discoveries. I noticed there were approximately a dozen large and closed displays with original memorabilia from most notable of notable MSG events through the years. Adorning the opposing wall, I could tell this was where the real money was. Our tour took us about two thirds of the way around the arena, highlighting these, thus missing a few of the showcases. The ones we saw featured the likes of Muhammad Ali, the Pope, the New York Knicks,

the New York Rangers, et cetera. I was naturally disappointed, but again not surprised that none of them featured wrestling. In any case. They do, they do, they do. There's one if you go, I know exactly the way that they went, So there are there were different There are different routes you can take for the tour, right and depending on how busy of a day it is. And if you go a B route you go so normally you always hit when you get up to the main main concourse,

you always hit Muhammad Ali, Joe Frasier first. That's always that's always a thing, right. If you're doing an A route, you go down one side and you hit the and you hit Gretzki. You go the other way and you hit WrestleMania one and they got Hogan. They got Hogan, Hogan shirt, pipers, boots and whatever. Yeah, absolutely phenomenal, great insight.

In any case, our tour continued to some of the locker rooms and arena floor, where I pictured such events as Hogan pinning iron cheek to inaugurate the era, Hulkamania, Liz removing her skirt to help the Megapowers to victory at the original Summer Slam in the ladder, Yes politically teetering above a prone Razor Ramon and Shawn Michaels of WrestleMania ten. As a tour ended, I left someone unsatisfied regarding the lack of acknowledgment of the Royle wrestlings played in the

Arida's history. However, I reminded myself that I would be back in a few hours for the concert and could thus conclude my own tour privately. When I returned that night, I arrived early so I could view the remaining showcases. There were three or four I hadn't yet seen. I excitedly found them, but one by whole was disappointed. Oh, with only one left. The outlook was grim. But as I walked up to it, I noticed a gload of the red and yellow there we go. As I approached it

with my son, I realized all my efforts it paid off. That featured hul Cogan memorabilia, tights, shirt belt, as well as WrestleMania one artifacts, Piper's boots, commotial poster, et cetera. Yes, I had that warm feeling I used to get thirty years ago. And after weeks of searching, I finally located that long lost Colisseum home video at some remote walk Pastore, New Hasbro figure to Sketchy Toys r Us. I've included a photo below.

It was nice to see the great history of ww wrestling at the Garden acknowledged appropriately up in the I'm surprised too that what are you gonna say?

I was just going to continue with the email go ahead. Oh, I was on one thing too, I'm I'm I don't know if he if he if he mentioned this, but on the tour, you're supposed to go down a hallway up in the up in the suites, and of course, granted you never know, sometimes they skip the luxury suites and they go to the the upper tier suites, depending on you know, because sometimes you can't.

They don't want people on, yeah, depending on what's going on. But there's also a picture of Hogan Tea and Liberaci in in the main suite area, and I used to stop people there a lot, and until my tour

was starting to run along, and then I cut it out. But I used to always try to actually build up the pro wrestling element of Madison Square Garden and talk about absolutely that that would be the time where I would bring in I would talk about WrestleMania, but then I would also talk about brunos Ha Martino and I talk about his the record, the record, the record,

yeah ye, the records sellout. And then also the first the first time that that wrestling was held at at Madison Square Garden, which was years prior, the centuries prior. Those people got a lot more bang for their buck. Oh yeah, oh yeah. I mean I also gave I mean, listen, I don't I don't mind saying I I gave a fucking kick ass tour exactly what I got more than more than a handful of compliments from from uh other employees who would be walking around the concourse in the arena and

catch me doing my thing. Excellent brother, I was I love joy impression. Yeah, yes, that's what I thought. Yes, And it made people very uncomfortable because it's like, it's like, what the fun was a lot of times, yeah, because keep in mind, it's a lot of people are are very a lot of a lot of uh tourists from other countries don't do who yes, who don't? Yes exactly, like right, sloud and floush and all that. Yeah, you know, flash Still it's just

sisky and you're scaring much very nervous. I'm screaming at them, you know, fucking terrorizing these people, and they're like, oh god, so many, so many, so many times you think you know, you're trying to because you work obviously, you work your punchlines a lot in those things.

Oh yeah. And it's like, you know, if you get a group that just speaks littleton zero English, oh my god, it's so fucking funny to have jokes just completely bomb, completely bomb, and I'd go into my fucking crazy I would get so intense during the uh the Muhammad Ali shit, like just go fucking crazy, like talking about how you know, this is America, so obviously you have to obviously you have to make a sequel to

make more Mondy, they have to have Fraser Ali two. All right, this is you know, and then and then and then look, if you got two, you gotta have three. You gotta have a rubber match. I actually say would say rubber match in my tour, And and people was fucking sitting there like what is wrong with this animal? David concludes one final humorous note. At the entrance to the garden, there is a Walk of Fame, similar to the Hollywood version, but featuring those athletes and performers that

have contributed significantly in the history of success. Yes, I searched for any wrestling related individual to be immortalized along the lights of Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan, and the Rolling Stones and found the one and only Yes AND's McMahon. So honor, Yes, Yes, indeed. Do you think that's still there? Pal? I imagine that it might be being removed as we speak.

However, I chuckled as I read the central bronze plaque describing the qualifications for induction, which dates that each person is honored with a plaque that designates the performance category broadcasting, boxing, baseball, basketball, hockey, track and field, tennis, skating, music circus in which their contributions have been made, with wrestling not specifically listed, I naturally assumed he was included out of the

category of circus Fergus. Yes, indeed, thanks again for reading and help you enjoy the photos we did and you remember too, I posted this back in the day, so when I first started working there. So if you walked in the UH, there's an employee section where you have to kind of

check in. Yeah, when you get to the When you get there, and I would go, so you walk along, they had kind of these murals on the the UH, the cinder block walls, you know, like they painted them and stuff, And there was a Hulk Hogan forever there. Hulk Hogan was there forever. And then one day I was walking in to check in and Hulk Hogan wasn't there anymore. It was John Cena. That's

fucking amazing. I think I tweeted that photo amazing. That's right. Actually I'm sitting here thinking about it and I thought that was our bit, but that actually happened. No, that that actually happened where they replaced Hull Cogan with John Cena. Incredible, such a and it's like it's the same exact pose that that whole Cogan, the whole Cogan painting was in, but it was just now John Cena, unreal, oh Man. So many wonderful things

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you've been smoking with? Keep up the good work. But A wall say vape? You mean? What do you mean selling? Dude? Who's selling? Dude? I'm on, brother, I want selling vape? Dude? Are you about selling it for Vader? Brother? I'm not selling for Vader? Dude? Is that what you do? I don't understand WHOA. Let's come back, Yeah, all right, let's kind of let's get this thing back on track, dude, And I want to understand exactly what it is that you're trying to say when you say vape? Mhm, are you what

do you? WHOA? You have to remember the key to Hogan is that his brain's working faster than he can say words. He's he's making he's making logical leaps. You know. Yes, he's got like you know, you know one one one moment right here, like one thought, has a got about fifteen possible you know, next moves? And I just I just want to know exactly what is So I'm willing to be honest with you, brother, I'm willing to tell you exactly what is you want to know. I

just don't know what is that you want to know. So, so when you talk about selling vapes, what do you mean by what? What is a vape? Dude? Is a vapor? What do you mean by vape? Brother? What is vape? Vapor? Big van vapor, befo water vapor, hydro fuel cells. I'm not digging big van vapor? Brother. Brother. You know, hydrogen fuel cells aren't zero emission, right, Dude? If they suck in polluted air and they're going to admit it, probably this is not so. I mean, I'm talking to you. You know,

we're talking about and we're talking about about climate change. Now, dude, do you got to increase those axles? Dude? How does that not emit? Are you like? Do you check? I don't know about where you live, brother, but we have to call it check exactly where where we're at? Where our emissions? You know, admissions to emissions. And you know I'm as equally concerned of about emissions as I am admissions to the arena. Brother. Right, you talk about global warming, dude, I

mean I'm talking about global audiences. I think we canna leave it there because it reached the point where they're like, let's go down in the Hogan climate change route. And what brought that to an abrupt end the fact that I said global and then he says global audiences, and then it's like, okay, well that's it. That's the end logical conclusion that this probably belonged the laps Trunk portion. But Neil writes, Dorry Senior's wife was named Dorothy.

Is that short for Doriance? No, would be Dorothans. Actually is what it would be? Dorothan's Ronaldi. Many thought Terry's y Vicky was short for Victoria, but it's actually Vickians, Vickens, Vickens. Oh yeah, you know, I shot there with Vickens, and we going way back and we're there with Doncan and Dorothan's and and the sitting there and something with the Caroardly Lions and then the tin Woodman's and just doing the whole damn thing. Howardly

Lion is that whole Cogan? What do you why do you even say that? Brother? What are beyond the mad episode of under the Cinemat, of course, brought to you as part of the Lapsed Funk some great comments, including Adam, who writes much better than Barry's follow up film, which chronicled pm News, Abdullah the Butcher, one Man, Gang Yoka's Innovador, and a few other rotund wrestlers as they travel cross country discovering the best food and

each other. Beyond the fact, I would absolutely want to be part of a documentary that just follows heavy wrestlers in their diet on the road, you know, Like I would just want to do a dog just about the meals, you know, I would. I just want to see them fucking yeah,

like, what what is their solution to hunger? Right? Because they don't have they have no options, and they have no time, so they absolutely have to make it count when they sit down, right, Yeah, you have to think about how much more calories a fucking rakishi or a yah. Yeah, and we're talking about I mean while flying around, are you kidding? Six six thousand calories? Probably these guys are meeting right needing right.

I mean they let him, they let him out, they let him into the restaurant out back, they let him into the fucking freezer locker, you know, they just like feed him in there. Yeah, right, I mean you're better off doing that anyway, Andrew right on the cinemat love this movie. My uncle took me and my cousin to see this the day it came out. Oddly, Michael passed away earlier today. So all right, p uncle Sonny, thanks for taking me to this and all those baseball

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on TV. Right. A few months later, my phys ed teacher started a unit on Greco Roman wrestling and yelled, if I see you doing any that WWF, I'm going to WWF you right out of this room. Wow. As wrestling coaches really had to make it a point that they don't tolerate that fake shit. Yeah, well, that's the only reason anybody showed up, so they had to immediately dispel people of that notion so they didn't feel like they were sold a bag of goods. I'd imagine a bill of goods.

I should say, yep. This is a nice moment, pointed out in the spirit of TLFX by Adam on Patreon episode two thirty three, which is WWSWS Rustled Dream Part two an hour ten minutes into an hour thirteen minutes, Hogan accuses Jack of trying to talk to Yoshiaki Yatsu. Jack denies this. Hogan claims that the denial is proof Jack had indeed spoken to the future Pride Fighter. Yes, Jack warily retorts that he only wants a Japanese gatorade.

Brother, nonplused, the future star of a celeb sex tape suggests Jack tried the Yunagi flavored one, then, without missing a beat, immediately asks the erstwhile accused, to get him one to drink two. After Jack leaves, Hogan suspiciously asks him if he's going to talk to Yatsu. Great shit, that's really funny. That's really fucking wacky. In the archives, oh yeah, oh my god, Haystacks were at a great list from from the

Archives presenting. I'm going to give you this. You know, of course, the Lamentable tragedy, right, yes, yes, Heaven needed okay, Heaven needed a champion. But we also have said over the years, because

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Heaven needed some get discussed. Heaven needed some Heaven needed Downtown Dallas. Heaven needed a footless man. Heaven needed a deep dive. Heaven needed a social media manager. Heaven needed a delicacy. Haven't needed a bodega. Heaven needed a Sullivan. Yes, Heaven needed a ring rat. Heaven needed a fucking duck corpse. Hm. Heaven needed a skillet That's for sure. Heaven needed pins and submissions to count in a battle royal. Heaven needed a slatin

Heaven needed a mama. Haven't needed Kamala. Heaven needed kamama. Oh my God. Heaven needed a clean floor or a pair of shoes. Heaven needed a rhythm. Heaven needed a beat. Heaven needed a Glen goes away. Heaven needed a recording studio in Texas to get hit by lightning. Heaven needed a penis baby. Heaven needed a false narrative. Yeah, that's for sure. Heaven needed a father figure. Oh Jesus. Heaven needed a patriarch.

Heaven needed a referee. Heaven needed another spectator in that great wrestling arena in the sky, another one. Heaven needed a mang meng. Oh. Heaven needed a fabrication. Heaven needed a perspiration. Heaven needed a cock. Heaven needed penetration. Yes, yes, Heaven needed the von Erics to bang their teachers. Wow. Heaven needed a reugh break. Heaven needed a better ticket sales on this particular night. Heaven needed a foot. Heaven needed fruit by

the foot episode. Imagine I imagine someone said, yeah, I haven't needed a foot, and then one of us responded, yeah, haven't needed fruit by the foot. That would I imagine that happened. Heaven needed a walking boot, even needed a big boot. Heaven needed a nut. Heaven needed to busts a nut. Even needed negativity. Heaven needed cynicism. Heaven needed one more and the following our non tlf heavenly needs I guess. Heaven did not need a pussy. Heaven did not need my fucking pussy say we say

at certain points. Heaven did not need I guess that's the thing need my Heaven did not need my twat that's right. Heaven did not need more than one champion. Heaven did not need a few. Heaven did not need a face sitter Heaven. Heaven did not need a patron. Heaven did not need enterritis. Heaven did not need an eight time champion. Heaven did not need a flat back. Heaven did not need a good boy. Heaven did not need a Christmas Special. Heaven did not need a Scott Hall. Heaven did

not need an investor. Heaven did not need an MC. Heaven did not need exclamations like that. Heaven did not need a first intercontinental champion. Heaven did not need a Ugandan giant. Heaven did not need this kind of dad. Heaven did not need a hearthouse. Heaven did not need a parent. That is fucking phenomenal. That's a great ship. That's on a whole different level of Yes, yes it is. Oh patreon dot com slash lats lats to get in on the fun and support the folks and hard work. It's

fucking hilarious. Oh my god, that's fucking my complete list of heaven needed,

speak of complete lists. We need to think is Jerome Cussen, Bobby was Soobby, Eric Lapsed Fan, Marv Clinton Nelson, Richie McCormick, Rudy Casserras, longtime supporter, Sawmon l A, Cody Davis, Nick Lombardy, The Kid, Andrew Molton, Eric Coleman, Lance by Chance, Wesley Sexton, Kevin, Justin Chambers, Matthew Wallaceuck, Justin Davenport, Ethan Doctor Wiz, Pip, Corey Barnett, Alan Smith, Tim Murphy, Christopher Emily, Devin Bray, Glenn Goddard, Sean Smith, Carlos Stallion, of course always

keeping it solid, Saxter, Jack Gillespie, Brobot, Sean Ryan Jacobs, My god, so humbling m M it is Rob Wrights, gentlemen, proud to be a motor. I have to ask as they're planned to take the Iron Claw under the Cinema. I perused the IMDb page, did not see a cast character listening for Gary Hart Glenn. This is when before it came out Ken Manteller Glenn goes up for shame thoughts. I mean, of course

it's a shame that they didn't fucking you know, use them. But and yes, of course, the I mean Iron Claw is coming under the cinemat. Just need a certain amount of time to pass, right, Yeah, yeah, I mean we got to get we need a little bit more of the truth coming out as to the making of you know, it's it's it's uh, not that I'm saying there's anything bad that happened, but you know, stories don't always Yeah, you want the buy them out right away.

Yeah, I want to know what really happened, good or bad, good and bad whatever it is. I like to hear a MJF story about how he ended up nowhere anywhere to be found. I mean, that's just that's that's that's Hollywood filmmaking right there. You know, like you got to cut things for time, you never know. Yeah, but uh, I mean yeah, I would be Yeah, I mean I'm curious to see how you know, what why he uh uh wasn't in it more? Any of the

stories that happened behind the scenes. Yeah, yeah, really interesting. Back on the progressing tease, Tip Kevin writes, Jack and JP, I didn't start in my journey until the Pandemic. I finally caught up with the cast in the Pandemic era. I first bought my I bought my first three shirts in twenty twenty one for my buddy, two for me. I heard recently you two talking about someone who bought the adult version of the Pimp King of the Cad shirt. Yes, few, the few, the proud Boss.

I received my all Me Sawa Championship Wrestling shit today, so I decided to snap my growing collection. I supported Golden Sword Gordon solely uncensored. Thank you for all the hours of paid and laughter. Praise be the Warlord and good ship barf Hendrix too. Oh I love it. Got the deep cut in the collection. Oh that's amazing. Yeah, pim King of the Cad. That's a tough one to buy, man, it is that it is when you get the fucking you got the uh the stripper with the with the tassels

on her tits? What's the Sonco pain shirt? Someone just bought that and I don't even remember that one. Uh yeah, I mean I did do I did do a son Co Oh yeah, yeah, there it is. Wow. I wonder who the fuck that is? Why would someone buy that? That's fascinating. I mean, and I believe it was bought by a woman. Yes it was. I'm actually for her husband or her boyfriend or something. Fascinating, fascinating old anything you need on it, Yes, that's

right. I mean, what's the problem with that? I can't tell that much joy gives me when someone buys one of those deep shirts. Oh, I mean when someone buys a fucking Sonco shirt. That's a whole different level. That's a whole different level, faster than Chuck Wrights. I just watched a YouTube video making fun of old wrestling games, and I shit, you not in w W Thunder. If you hold your player selector cursor on Kevin Nash long enough, he tells you not to pick him because he's already made

his money for being in the video gaming. Wow. Sounds on brand. Marcus Crouds, thanks for the cake, Aaron Busby, thank you very much. Bryce bar two and Haiko Nichols Junior and Stephen Milkowski and Alexander Slocum and connelingis Grand Prix World Champion of the World brother. Exactly very concerning. Thank you, Mark Coleman. I'm sure to that one the Hammer meet h thank you very much for your support. Raymond Barone also had to put an increased

spread punch down. It's actually Joe who writes fellas Joe from Denton here County seat of Denton County, home to von Erics, about thirty miles north of Dallas. Yes, I work for University of North Texas where one Steve Williams played ball. I'm still looking for some kind of plaque or something on campus

dedicated to him. There has to be something. Lapsed Austin by Jack is one of my favorite characters, by the way, always at the damn house and whatnot, or going on about how he almost broke his damn neck. I'm loving the Lapsed Funk series. I've been talking to myself in that kind of high pitched monotone Terry Funk Hank Hill accent NonStop while I do chores around

the damn house. That voice replaced my lapsed brick flair voice, where I would just mumble the words sea breezels and rum and cookes over and over again. Wilt's doing chores and listening to TLF. That's the fucking magic, Joe, you got it. Figure it out, be efficient and be entertained at the same time. Anyway, I just stopped from ten to five to ten a month since I got a pitty raise. You get a pitty raise. No money on my education boys, Happy holidays, Thanks Joe, appreciate your

support. Man. Glad to hear that we're we're delivering for you. Remember when we did Art of War Games and John Zandig was hung by his skin? Oh yes, Chris writes to us, I just listened to your Art of War Games about CZW. I was cracking up. A friend of mine was a body piercer. He was also a photographer for CCW for a while, and later a performer. He's the one who helped orchestrate this. Oh done very safely. In reality, You're right, suspensions aren't as bad as

they look. The weed whackers and broken glass are in reality far worse. But this is visually worse to those unfamiliar. The crowd was genuinely upset. It was pretty funny, actually, was it pointless? Oh, absolutely, But the time it was just a way to appear more extreme. Right or wrong. I didn't care. Wasn't my thing? I do understand. I mean safe or not? Okay, here's the thing. A guy's flesh was pierced by a hook. Correct, multiple hooks. Correct. I don't.

I'm not interested in safety. I'm interested in not doing that. It's as if you pinched the skin and we're able to pull up hard and strong enough that it stretched like a piece of pizza cheese. I'm not interested. I wish he raised his hand. We were doing out of war games. I would love to have gotten an interview in with how that's pulled off. Right. He thought it was funny that everyone was fine with all the bloody gore, but this was too much. Yeah, I mean that's what they were

going for. They were trying to find that line, and they found it. You ever gonna show Mama sorrow that? No, because I don't think I want to watch that again. There you go, fair. Brian writes to us a night at the theater. Oh boy, here we go to the co chairs. I just wanted to say write in and said to say thank you for a wonderful evening. Of Live Theater this past weekend. This

is oh, I haven't King of the Jews featuring the Price. Although I haven't watched wrestling in over two decades, my intense fandom during that glorious period from ninety seven to two thousand and one burned bright imprinting on my psych you to the point where I still listen almost exclusively to podcasts of people talking about wrestling from twenty five years ago. Anything before ninety seven, I only had

only vague memories of watching over my brother's older brother's shoulder. Post two thousand and one, I couldn't bring myself to watch anymore once Austin hugged McMahon, and so I had only the handwritten recaps of Raw and SmackDown that my younger sister would put together for me each week. Until two thousand and three.

I have been a TLF listener for years, but I must admit that sometimes that I sometimes get intimidated by your epic journeys and their length, their girth, which can at times seem daunting, the downside of my joyful obsession with TLF is that no matter how long a life I lead, I know I will be dead and buried before I ever make a dent in the thousands of hours of content thrust upon me to point I've done the math, and at my current pace, there is just no way that being said, I have

dedicated every free moment of the past month taking the ninety seven WWE journey, and it has been a revelation, having not seen these shows in decades. I remember the details you described like it was yesterday. But more importantly, each episode introduces me to new lapsed character moments I never knew I needed in my life. From Sid calmly explaining to Vince that he has no intention of fulfilling the dates on his current contract, to Austin explaining what neapolitan ice cream

is to JR. That's funny, vanilla? What chocolate? What strawberry? Watt to Vader in the rain telling us what time it is, before immediately slipping out of character, oh my gosh backstage during wrestling with Shadows to detail his latest real estate development project. No matter what I am doing or saying throughout the day, those characters are in my head. Regardless of how far I've gotten from my years of peak fandom in the nineties, it seems clear

that the whole this business has over my life will never be relinquished. I call both of my toddler daughters brother and dude. Toddler daughters brother and dude with such frequency that they have now taken to addressing me as the same. My wife has become accustomed to being referred to almost exclusively as mister hitman. Yes. Even the woman at the drive through has to put up with me ordering a lie right yaw, and I don't even like coffee. Yeah,

sorry about that one. That one's a yes. Because I am hundreds of episodes behind and listening, I had no idea that the Boss would be appearing live and in person right in our own backyard this month. Thankfully, my wife must have taken to heart the fact that I had been wandering the house for weeks repeating the phrase I went back, Yes, I went back in

a very distinctive Minnesota accent. Although never having watched a single second of pro wrestling or listened to a minute of TLF, she was able to deduce, through the magic of Twitter that an esteemed code chair would be in town as a birthday present. My father could appreciate my wife, Oh, any father could appreciate my wife gifted me not all with a ticket to the show this past Saturday, but also an excuse to spend the entire day by myself in

New York City, left totally to my own devices. I spent most of it wandering Chinatown, and perhaps it was something in the air that day, but I just could not escape the Federation. I stopped in a thrift store and was greeted by an oversized Sean Michael's doll, the one with the plush body and plastic head, with slicked back mid nineties hair and grotesque proportions. I wandered through a martial arts supply shop and was faced with obscure looks on

Comma and double Axe technique. I meandered down a small side street and looked up to see the sign I expected. I was at the corner of Baxter Street and Hogan Place. Brother Oh, before long, it was showtime. I arrived the theater and took a seat at a table near the stage. The cast members began to trickle in, and then there he was the Boss.

Yes, I already knew the incredible talent I would be witnessing from the countless conversations I had heard between two completely distinct characters toggled everlessly by one man. But I was not expecting to see the Boss Hunter up to the stage and immediately sit down to join a jazz ensemble and begin playing a brass wind instrument I've never seen before. That is the first scene. My understanding of JP's drue talent was that was, at that moment taken to the next level.

And that was ever even before he took out an entirely different brass wind instrument. I started like that, Boss, I knew you would. Oh shit, oh god. My appreciation for this man's talent continue to go off the charts into a new realm during the preceding two plus hours on stage, showcasing an incredible range of emotions, all while doing a very specific accident and even dipping into song at one point. You know, it's one of those

things you don't really realize. You know. What I find funny is I don't even think of it as being a big deal, just doing the ship that I did in the show. I can't do it successful enough if you do. Yeah, I didn't, you know, I didn't even think, you know, I didn't even think twice. But I'm very appreciative of this email. This is a great email, and I you know, I'm always

a fan of stroking my own ego at times. It's good to see yourself through others eyes, you know, Yeah, absolutely is it absolutely is.

Absolutely you can't. I see enough negativity on through other people's eyes about ours, about us, So it's fine, you know, truly truly unbelievable to finally get to witness this level of talent in person, after so many hours spent listening each and every week, I was lucky enough to catch JP outside the theater of the show after the show, and while I am sure I stumbled over my words and have no idea what I even said, Cat,

such a warm and friendly interaction with the boss was a wonderful caper to an amazing evening of theater. I remember that it was great. It was really nice, you know, especially because it was someone you know, not part of the group that came. Yeah. Yeah, this is a totally independent ticket buyer. And I'm always I I say this if you, if if I'm in a show and you're around, please let me know. I will always I like coming out and hanging out with people after the show and seeing

people and I'm as you know, believe it or not. I mean, I am very appreciative when people make the effort to come out and see it's so great hitting the after we did that, Oh it was so much fun. Good fucking cats and ship afterwards was a plan. Mow tier, get together, walk in the streets. Just bullshit, stupid. It is great. Fucking eating a ship ton of fucking corn beef overdid it big time. Let's got to eat before the show, and then after the show, let's

to cats. Yeah, let's eat more. Let's eat like actually ten times more than we're going to eat. Then we ate at the fucking Burger place. That's that mote to your benefit, folks, only select few got the invite. That's the way it's going to have to be. Thank you for all the countless moments throughout the day when I think of something you both said and kind of stop smiling, even when that day has otherwise got me down.

You're dueling awesome impressions during this ninety seven journey will light up even the darkest corners of my life for the rest of my days. And now I began the twenty plus hour Montreal deep dive for the first time. Sincerely, Brian PS. When the day comes that I am able to contribute, I will pay whatever it takes for a lapsed audiobook of the two thousand and six w novel Big Apple Takedown. I don't know what the fuck that is.

I don't know what that is either. All right, interesting interesting notion there, interesting notion. So thanks very much, great email. Yeah, big thanks go out to Hey Darby l at Hey Darby Allen do a kickflip. Yeah, that's the name. That's amazing. Hammond and Tony Fernandez an anonymous and Jesse Harrison and George Sakaris and they call me Saltine Daltine because I'm white,

ash shit and salty in all the wrong ways. Brother, Rod McMahon, Michael J. Tremarco and Rod mcman Ben Brown, Brandon Davis and s and Steven Tackett and Jack Tracy and Adam Osbourne, Travis Wilcox, Adam B. Miles, t Timothy Lee, Christopher Rupar Pete, Willie Thompson, Leo Troy, Benjamin, Hedrick, Josh Wright, Tony b and Simon Ahearn. Derek Dolozol recently bumped up his pledge and wrote my Spotify rap told me I

listened to you guys for thirty thousand minutes in twenty twenty three. If you're trying to be in my ass that hard and long, I better nut up. You can do better than that, Yeah, I know you can. Mike writes two things that have destroyed my sides recently in The Lapsed Fan. First, when JP was doing his Abbey impression and slipped in a you know, and it sounded very Nashurally. The thought of a nash Abby synthesis tickles me away that I can't describe. Please, for the love of all things,

I need to hear JP's Abbey voice saying nash things. Snacks, money, I don't ten. Motherfucker's not about you. Uh. What's the only thing that is real is the money and the mine. It's Kevin learned at all. Uh, you know, motherfucker is not all about you. Eat something anything about French connection, maybe French press connections. Fucking I'd like to

I'm a big fan of, you know, the Gene Hackman film. Always whenever I get practice about it, I get the French toast and the French toast connection with that Dulo Butcher. Yes, I think that's look, I think you know what that is. It's absolutely correct me. This guy, the French toast plates that he has put down the fucking oh fucking Christ, the diners that didn't stand a fucking chance when the Abbey mobile pulled into the fucking parking lot. Think of the amount of butter lost on this man.

Okay, Oh my god, it's stunning. Shaneson clayir leanne Amy Wilson, Matthew Hardaway, Ross Miller, Kurt Siri, and Luke Pearson. William Murphy

in that moat tier. Shout out to William Murphy for doing the right thing and joining the elite structure to the elite strata, we should say, Jonathan Guzman, Andy Ellen, Nich Sackster, Jeff Jason Austin, Trevor Hendy and Daniel Mohler and Robert Daniel Pearson, Michael Blanton, a boy, Mikey Blanton, there coming Strong, Barry Middleton, Martin b jeff Rick Kobos, Todd Harding, Chris m David barrand Patrick Lucas, Cody Nesmith, Michael Knight,

t r Andy Savage, Paul the Saint Twan Graham went all the way up to fifty bucks because he knew it had to be done. Yeah, he's a fucking because he's a monster, human being. Great. Annuel Herron, Caleb Bowden, Sam O'Connor, Liam Stewart, DJ Liam Stewart again upping the pledge, Antwine Fields, Corey Kirk, Thompson, Miles Martin, Jeran Frow, Matt Steven, tack At, Ben buck ellis Bergman Roch Patel, Christopher Emily, and of course David Prows. Another thing Mike said, besides the

Abbey thing, second contemplating suicide with Jack Briscoe. I never considered how funny it would be to imagine Jack brisco of all people, contemplating suicide while he

runs down the mundane nous of his life. But here we are. There's some sleepers in that NW a old title episode of the Last Yeah, yeah, I think those that to get us yep, yep, I mean, I think that's just the nature of Jack Briscoe, to imagine him narrating his memoirs, Mike writes in a scene not unlike Brooks from Shashank Redemption, when he steps on the chair and hangs himself. Yes, yes, Jess Risco was here, Jack, right, brisk yess exactly. Yes. This is

from Fred Peter Weller and Capitol Combat nineteen ninety Return of RoboCop. Yes, DeReKo Chairman. I'm out of New Orleans Fan XPO and just met Peter Weller. I'm a history teacher and got him to talk by asking him about his PhD in Renaissance history. After I took my picture, I had to ask him if it was him in the suit of Capitol Combat ninety. He jokingly put his head down in sighed when I mentioned I was a wrestling fan. That you get, by the way, Fred, that's right, that's right.

Fucking get a complete listen. He now totally regrets is spending. He knew better than to warm up his days. God forgetting that he ever talked to you. Ah, His goal is to forget it's you. It was adamant that it was not him in the costume. He then went on to say that people got sued, especially in Japan, for copyright and infringement. Not sure what he's referring to, he stated that people in Japan say stuff because they don't think people in America will find out or hold him legally responsible.

I'd my tongue about what Hogan said in Japan about the IGP Championship versus the WWF Championship. Yeah, I don't think that would have done you any favors with Peter Well, yeah who. So you know that's always a subject of speculation. I think we settled it pretty strongly, RoboCop under the cinemat that it was not him. Yes, it's not him, but it's not him. But if you need to hear a dispatch from a Great Solar System member, making sure to keep us in mind and checking out the box in

person, there it is. I love it. Boss, Let's hit. Let's hit Neil Forbes's email. I'm not sure we're going to be able to play the link, but we can tell people about it and they can check it out if they wish. Greeting his code chairs. I hope you and your families are well. I mean, I'm a bit behind the podcast. Your work ethic continues to be enviable, but I must say the Lapsed Funk

Journey is some of your best work yet. I'm a bit of a I'm a bit young to ever see much of Terry Funk's career, although amusingly, if you ask my mother to name five wrestlers. I guarantee you she would include Chainsaw Charlie in that list. She was obviously in the room during that episode of Raw and found it hilarious. But what more do I need to say? TIEF transports me into different places and times and lets me properly appreciate

this legend. Now, none of these other wrestling podcasters, because it could succeed in this goal. They quite simply do not have the skill, the work, ethic, or indeed the balls to do. So yeah, fuck them. There's only one wrestling podcast that matters, that's right, only one that is fuck them, only one that is going to stand the test of time far in the future. Will be Really, we listen to TLF on our fucking deathbeds now wanted something sillier. It's quite possible someone already pointed us

out, and if so, just ignore this male. But I recently heard Metallica's nineteen ninety eight cover version of the song Whiskey in the Jar. The music video for this played all the time on the rock stations when I was growing up. At this time. There was something extra special about it because this was my first time hearing the song since the TNAH journey Oh. Vocalist James Hetfield's prominent ad libs are particularly exaggerated in this performance. Go to the

start of the chorus at two thirty one in the official video. Okay, I'm now opening it up. This is an ad rather skip two thirty one, he said, for the sounds like the fucking funk theme right there. It does. But anyway, two thirty one, here we go. Let's see what goes on here. Whoa you mean? It sounds just like it? It does suit again, that's awesome. Oh that's funny. That's very TNH. Well done, great dispatch. Wait to keep your ear to the

ground. Pal, Thank you you, and thank you Burning Hammer and Chris Beard Sell and Stove and Bryce Bartwo and Chris Webley and Goose Hudson and JP Hardy and Jacob and Matt Anderson and Jesse Harrison, Brandon Davis and Lucky and Jerry Zagarelli and Joseph Kmino And there's someone who's sucking. Who's handle is jap

P Hardy? Fuck that that's for you. That totally is Keenan James Milsom and andrews Sieberg and Nick p and Toronto Joe and Jared Wolf and Darryl Wilkins and Steven Tackett and Michael Tremarco, Chris Harris, Sewan, Mike Palmy, Dan Haggerty, Thomas d Timothy Lee, Jay, Nick Williams, Steve Nick Lombardy and Paul Barrett and Adam Graver and Dalton Hastings and Daryl Wilkins and Matt had enough of a list for everybody. The fuck do you want from us?

How about seriously Vernon coming out at the fucking mote tier level right out of the gate, and writes deer coach chairman, I trust this message finds you well. My name is Jeffrey, though in the wrestling circle I go

by Vernon. I recent made the decision to step away from free loading after finding inspiration in your Collision in Korea episode Jack's word struck a chord with me put my money where my mouth is as a true consumer, not a freeloader, and I'm delighted to express my deep appreciation by becoming a Mote Tear member. From day one, my journey with your podcast began as I sought an alternative to my weekly Jim Cornett episodes, which have been a staple since twenty

sixteen. While I've explored various wrestling podcasts over the years, your stood out with the insane deep dive you did in TNH. When I heard the announcement clip and wanted to see how anyone could discuss Hull, COGD and TNA at such length. Needless to say, I became obsessed. Your in depth explorations of the sport of kings has become the soundtrack to my daily routine as a self proclaimed wrestling story and among my friends. My fandom dates back to the

early nineties growing up in the Bronx. My fondest memory is cheering on hul Cogan from the Nosebleeds of MSG for the one show my grandfather and father took me to my family. Immigrants from Nicaragua during the contrast Sendenista conflict, added a unique perspective to my wrestling journey. Despite language barriers, my grandfather introduced me to the world of wrestling, creating a cherished tradition of bonding over weekly

TV and my daily bombarding him to tell me more stories. He often talked to me about Olsanto and Blue Demon. I was learning all those stories about legends and about things I had never seen, but fell deeper in love with because he loved it so much. I developed my Spanish speaking as well as my love of wrestling. School life demands took over during my seniorear of high school and O two, so I stopped watching WWL together. My wrestling passion

resurfaced in college after my grandfather's sudden death. Being lapsed, I was lost until four I discovered the early wrestling internet radio shows. I explored Japanese wrestling, any wrestling, and embraced the world of tape trading. I realized much of what I enjoyed about wrestling and is the communal part and getting to talk about it and argue with my friends. In that small way, The IWC became my secret friends that I could talk about wrestling while still getting to be

a cool college guy while wrestling nerd. At the same time, I am a pastor, and of course, my wrestling passion became intertwined with my studies. During my final semester of getting my master's Boston University School of Theology, I pursued pro wrestling training in Rhode Island, while my ring aspirations shifted to being a manager due to my athletic limitations. It brought me joy and some mild success pro wrestling and became the focus of my doctoral project titled Getting Over

Leadership Lessons from two Corinthians and Territory Professional Wrestling. My paper was approved and wrestling helped me become a doctor. I shared the snippet of my journey to express my gratitude for what I've learned about your story and to convey my thanks with both words and some support in the form of cash. Best regards, Vernon, tremendous story, tremendous origin story. Yep, it's happening out there

every single day, every single time we pick up the mic. It's to see through things like that and wrapping up here Cold Stone, Steve Austin. I loved Mama Sorrow referring to Big Boss Man as mister Boston. Oh God. Even better was her asking who's the blue guy walking around like he's having his nails done? Yes, what a bizarre, but hilarious and accurate way to describe Achem. Yes, like he's having his nails done. That's true at the wrist, Yeah, it makes total sense. I had no problem

with that whatsoever. The live calls continued to drop. We did our rumble duty this year and Andre Andre picked this up. There's never been a more prophetic live call in history like there was with this one. Between Jack calling, the t Anda involvement and JP's dating Punk would tear something and not make it to Mania. Yep, just another reason why there's only one fucking cast.

Yes, and Stephen, on that same live call writes, finally, after almost eight years, the co chairs have popped the Missus Rumble twenty four call our truth entrance. Mmm, price is right theme, Well, it's a family feud, But I digress, and we close this episode with Steve and Saint Louis greeting's co chairs. My tale of Lapstom is one as old as time. I described myself as thrice lapsed, the first being in nineteen ninety three when I started getting hair in my crotch and the product was pissed

poor. Then back in the groove around the time of Bad Blood, which took place in my home base of Saint Louis. Around then I became a rabbit fan, found ECW and still hold memories from ninety seven through two thousand and two or so, very dear. I lapsed again in two thousand and two, as things weren't quite the same without ECW around, Plus I finally

started getting regular pussy. That's right. I clawed my way back around One Night's Stand and the subsequent ECW reboot, but found the WWECW was not for me, surprising unsurprisingly, and lapsed again. I'm lapsed to this day, though I still watched the plees and stay relatively current with the goings on, So maybe not so much. Sonthing b exactly like? Yeah, and and you by proxy by force? Yeah? Right, I've never really lapsed in

terms of the nostalgia, he writes. I stumbled on something to wrestle early on and was a loyal listener to the Conrad casts and still am to some degree. But since Bruce has it to the company line and Jr. Only gets excited about Alpha males and barbecue sauce, I found myself wanting more. I kept reading about this thing called the lapse. F Hey, that's me, I thought to myself, But who are these guys and why the fuck do I want to listen to them talk about Survivors Series eighty eight for seven

hours? Oh boy, that's what they always say. In the beginning isn't it. Yep. That's how we got them. Yep. And you know by now I didn't want to listen to anything I fucking needed too. Did he underline a word needed, boss, Yes he did. And on that topic, can we just shout the following from the fucking rooftops? The podcast is seven hours because that's how long it fucking takes. They laugh at their own jokes because they're fucking funny, he writes in bold. So far,

I'm not really seeing any problems now that that's out of the way. The truth is, I don't have all that much time to listen to podcasts these days. I'm a single father with shared custody of two young children. Dude, that's fucking that is some tough shit, man. I have a demanding job that I can rarely cast during, and I no longer commute to the office, so that time is gone. I still have over three hundred episodes in my backlog, and who knows if I will ever forget to them.

For two years, I have used this as a poor excuse for not tithing, and I'm so very ashamed of being such a bitch, because my need is not about the volume of content TLF provides. My need is deeper than that. It's because if I am depressed because I miss my kids, yes, or have a rough day of work, TLF can turn me around. It's because if I'm busy on a weekend with one of the multitude of house chores or repairs, I have TLF in my ears, yes and deep up

my ass to get me through it with a fucking smile. What it all boils down to is that if I was without this podcast, it would affect me emotionally. As Vince would say, you put smiles on faces. That's right. It's not the only podcast I listened to, but it's the only one that fucking matters. Yes, it is his words, folks, not ours. I devoured the lamentable tragedy ahead of the Iron Claws release. I can't wait to learn more about the Funks than I ever thought I needed to

know. The TNH journey was a fucking phenomenon, and I gobbled it up despite my having never watched more than five minutes of TNA in my life. You're welcome, TNA, by the way. By the time we were done with TNH Boss, they were bringing back the TNA name like Jesus. I decided after completing that one that I would make TLF my first and only Patreon purchase. Hoof Double Bizz Boss do the thing hit Dixie's music for us one time. Oh fuck, But it was this gem I have transcribed below that

truly put me over the edge. LAP Scribes feel free to use as you please Episode three twenty four, Bash at the Beach ninety five for the universe, I direct you to timestamp two fifty two, and if you have the time, I would humbly ask Jack to read this back as only he can, and I quote as JP comes like a fucking inferno when Randy Savage makes his way to the ring to do battle with Brick Flair, holding as Jack so aptly indicates a fistful of slim gems in his hands, slim Jim for

everybody, everyone needing a snap. I'm telling you right now, I got no chips, I got nothing else, but I do have some little slivers of meat. Here we go, handing out the sweaty meat here at Bash at the Beach. This has gotta be you. Oh, this is you? This is it? Why do you have me say it? Oh? All right, alright? Said it? To me, it's fucking do it in the spirit of TLFX. It's that fucking mailbag show Winter twenty twenty four.

Oh God, swim gym for everybody. Everyone needed a snick, telling you right now, I got no chips, I got nothing else, but I do heal some little slivers of meat. Here we go handed the sweaty meat. Here at bish at the beach, sweaty sticks of beef cured beef. You know what I meant. Here we go smoky, sweaty cured beef. Ah huh. I like it. I like it. I'm feeling that shit. Everybody wants a piece of the slim gym slim Jim spash at the beach. Oh yeah, I fucking feel it. Uh, stick it up

your ass fans. Uh oh uh, I'm digging it. I like it. I like it. Everyone wants a slim gin Rick Fleer. You want a slim Jim, Here you go, and I getting it on one on one. I don't mean any disrespect, not trying to get in front of you, but here I go. I got an extra piro slim gems. You want one, You and your lady in the back and go back nibble on a slim Jim after the match. Not trying to force anything. Nope, Nope, not trying to force anything on you. We get it done.

But I want just want to offer you something saying here as a moment to break Keith Fabe in front of the fans. Uh. You and me sharing a gym in a gym. Wonderful, You and me sharing a gym, a slim gym. One two three, I'm digging it. Here we go, get it on fire. I'm looking at you right now like a man, the man. What do you want? What are we doing? Where are we gonna go from here? What's the next step. I'm looking at the Kingdom of the madness. It's filled with slim gems. You know

what I mean. Hey, I'm saying, hey, you know we were fucking leaking out, leaking out of the window. Slim gym. Oh my god, you gotta say that. You gotta chane a slim Jim. You gotta sorry. You got a chain of gyms. I gotta chain of slim gyms. We're doing the same thing. Wait, because it gets better. One is about exercise the ether. One is about exercising your right to eat sweaty smoke meat. Ah, shit. I'm telling you right now, these slim gyms have been out in the sun a long time and that's the only

reason why they're a little damp. All right. They're not ones. I'm not saying they're bad. They got them purchased today, all right, expires in two weeks. We got two weeks to eat these. But they're but they've been outside now. There's no place for us to go inside right now, so they maybe a little sweaty, a little bit of that, if you will, condensation. You know what I'm talking talking about now. I

don't mean it is respect. Not trying to pull anything over on you, on you fans, on your announcers, on any everybody who's snacking on a slim gym right now. Not what I'm trying to do. I'm here, I'm being honest. I'm telling you the wave that it is. Macho man, Randy Savage go through slim gyms this morning at the hotel. All right here they are right now, Uh huh. They might be a little sweitty. They've been out in the sun for a little while. It's hot day

out here at Huntingdon Beach. What are you gonna do with the slump Gym. Are you gonna eat it? You're gonna take it, You're gonna snap into it. I don't know. That's up to you. Not my places, not my place to tell you what to do. All right, you are your own people out there. What I'm suggesting is that you all understand right now, Slim Gym is presenting badge at the beach Bade best of number one show the summer, the biggest party, the place. You're gonna take

the meat. You're gonna eat the meat. You're gonna shove it a bess. You're gonna take in your hends that I got, my Slim Jim. I'm gonna shoot it off into the fans. Now, if that he writes, wait, did I say that? Is that what you're saying? He's saying you said all that? I fucking said that. Jesus. Now, if that he concludes, isn't worth my three sixteen every month and nothing is also? Come on, people, don't be like me. It's thirty eight

bucks a year. You know what else? I pay thirty eight bucks a year for fucking dish washer, dish washer, booster, powder, rock salt for my driveway. That's right, cheese, It's get your wallets out and do what's right. Well, I think you're geting rip off on the cheese. It's man, it shouldn't cast you thirty eight dollars a year for cheese its it's slim gyms for that amount year's supply. Thank you for making my

life just a little bit better every week. Thank you for hulcomania, and thank you for filling my oozing filth chasm, for always invading a hole that was at one time alone and empty, and for making me gape like Kerry von Eric's mouth as he scrambles for the next line of a promo tool belt for Daddy aka Steve and Saint Louis. We'll see you next time on that fucking casti Mountman As a TJ Tosanta's production, its contents is intended for private use only.