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you found gold while I'm looking for copper because I'm a sexy boy. But here's the show stopper. Chairman dug deep and b back to hopper. W yeah no good wet hop hop up. Sending your request for the hopper. Maybe the chairman will bless you. Stop with your own show. Maybe maybe deserved sitting in your mom's craze when watching fake sports. Don't them and We're bad. It is in fact the LAPS Fan Wrestling podcast. It is in
fact the TLF Hopper. It is in fact the very first wc W super Brawl from May of nineteen ninety one and boss, it's the return of the Rising Sun. Whatever that's I don't even know what that means. Where did it go? Return from the Rising Sun? They've been back for several months, I mean, I guess, but return of is a very very weird tagline for this thing. Maybe Dustin Rhodes is the Rising Sun, just spelled differently. Brother, that's true, he could be. Maybe that's what it
is. A nineteenth nineteen returned a few months before Bayfront Center, Saint Petersburg, Florida, seventy six thousand at the gate, about six thousand in attendance, and it is indeed the same building, as they point out to the broadcast that Dusty Rhodes became n W A Heavybeight champion for the first time, defeating Harley Race right here in the Bayfront Center. Wow. Wow, I didn't know that. That's great. So returned to form from the Akan Dream
who, of course, who was all over this fucking show. Oh?
He makes his presence felt and it is so crazy, it's uh. It is proceeded for those who watched it on pay per view preview by a pre show with Tony Shavanni against a green screen and kind of the same event center that Gordon Soley would do during this period of time during their syndicated programming, and he keeps calling it does Shavani the springtime tradition super Brawl Wow, which, of course, which would never be oh, it would become the winter
tradition, right their February tradition. That gives you kind of a sense of where Dusty Rhodes when he created super Brawl in nineteen ninety one, saw it falling on the calendar. Of course, Dusty Rohods a big exponent of traditions during different points of the year, be at the Great American Bash in the summer or some of the other things. The Crockett Cup was the February tradition.
Yeah, Halle and Havoc Daddy very much. You know, I still I still don't think we can credit Dusty for Halloween Havoc because it was in the w W when it started. Oh good, good point, very good point. Star Kade, though, was certainly like a Thanksgiving holiday spectacular. Yes, yes, end of the year, Caden Starsky to the Stars.
And that's just a curious little note. And some of the pay per view commercials for this show they called Fujinami the Japanese Invader, because this is nineteen forty four, and well, I was gonna say it wasn't wasn't vader in Japan? Memory onder stand no? But Jose Gonzalez, I guess, I guess, I guess instead of the Japanese Invader, he would be the vader in in Japan. It would be different. Well, as long as he's
not the bruiser, brody invader, I think we'll be safe. And here is just a little glimpse of one of the ways w W played the hype for this thing in terms of framing it up, even including some rare commentary from Tatsumi Fujinami, the challenger in the main event. At least what you could manage in English? What just happened? I don't know what the English I'd be the healing all three comments? One, how do we not? Why are you taking it by minutes? All right? Put it on me
this Sunday. It's not put off for one more moment. You will walk got off super Bowl, the biggest place for you, and this street, this sport, the world title, Ah go on Japans, climate, quick work climate it put it on me this Sunday. Can you walk that Ale Foo biggest in the history of the sport? Boss? You got that? I got it. I do love how Flair says uh Sunday sentence s U
N d E E Sunday. It's one way of putting it. I guess Fujinami isn't the only one in that promo piece with a little difficulty with English. Well you know what, Dusty also has that problem as well. They taped yeah, no shit, they come one, come all. Yeah, they have a w W main event, a previous special that they taped to air on the main event time slot on TBS the day of this show.
But of course, this being Jim Hurd's World Championship Wrestling Come Show Day, uh, TBS opted instead to show golf instead of this thing, promoting a pay per view that they would share in the profits of these Turner Home Entertainment. So that's fine. Whatever we can do to destroy ww yep, but what can we do? What? Queen? Need to fuck these guys over? But I don't care. I don't care if these Let me tell you something, Okay, I need we need to do this behind Ted's back,
all right. Ted cannot know about this. He is very supportive of these fucking idiots. I don't know why, but what we gotta do. We're gonna find some way. I don't care if these fucking guys make are Can more money than anything else for this fucking company. The bottom line is I'm not having that shit on Television's exactly right, all right, I'm not dealing with that fucking fake shit. So whatever we can do to fucking make them burn, all right, we gotta do it. Let's take their fucking show.
They got a pay per view or something that night, whatever they fucking call it some kind of special show. Take off their fucking regular show. They don't need more airtime. I want to destroy these motherfuckers. Sounds about right. Ten take about ten years to get it done. And there was an after number one of the ratings. I want to fuck them. Who exactly is this talking? No fucking idea Turner exact number one? Okay, I was if that was your Ted Turner or not, that's all. No,
no Turner. They don't want to just say dude, behind Turner's back, Turner's back, yea, okay, this is I don't want Turner to know. This is Dick Cheatham. There you go. Cheating. Indeed. So there's a dark match in Saint Petersburg where the Mighty Thor defeated L Cubano, also defeating El Cubano that night Dusty Rhodes out in Ebor City. From what I understand, right, oh shit, Oh it's so stupid. I wasn't I don't know. I wasn't expecting that at all. It's so stupid.
But here it comes to the super brawl music. Hang, hang, hang, and they get the Japanese flag of the USA flag, and you got gu Guanti and Simmons and all these moving images we have. We have a virtual collage of imagery to get us started here and just so, just so we make sure I wanted everyone to be aware of this super Brawl is available in stereo where available. Right, Well, see I was wondering if it was. If it was in stereo, we're not available. That didn't
say he was questionable. So I'm glad they fix. They at least were addressed that early. Yes, yes, before I got, you know, the chance to get really disappointed and then the can I ask you a question, Well, we get this in stereo where it's not available. It's like a local cable system in Charleston, West Virginia. I don't Well, if it's not available, it's not available. So uh no, I don't think.
Well, I'll tell you what I think. You guys better make sure you say that, because I just, you know, I'm not sure. I get a funny feeling that some of the people around here, even though we don't do stereo, I think they might get in stereo and it might be a little confusing. So so she doesn't even have a stereo system and she talk about someone looking for something to be upset about. I just want to listen. We don't have no stereo, all right, So if it
comes in stereo, am I going to be able to hear it? Right? Exactly? Because if this is deed is a market where available, how am I to interpret that? And I mean, so, am I gonna have no sound? Or is it gonna be some Is it gonna be in Japanese? Like? What are we talking about here? It's nothing, you know, presented in it's no original format. Is it always presented in its most complete format possible? I don't have h sterio because I don't support the
Japanese. Oh shit, I'm not buying stereos and you know there's manufacturers of stereos besides Sony, right, No, no, no, there isn't They make you think that. But I'll tell you I know every single one made in Japan. Yep. So I'm not dealing with that. I'm gonna go just regular sund not that stereo crap. Right, Fuck that, Fuck that technological advance. I'm gonna call it for you. What I'm gonna rely on God's sound. Let me guess what comes with with stereo sound is implanted chips
capable of listening in in my living room conversations. That's what I've been told. You know, you come here and you tell me that there's options outside of Sony for a stereo system. Would you have me buy my stereo, sir, from the Democratic Republic of the Congo. I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you right now, I walked in on a meeting between the Russians and the Japanese. Oh shit, time to put this one on mute happening. I'm gonna start filing your nails until she hangs up. And let
me tell you it happened right here in my town. I was there. I went into the bookstore, and there they were Russians and Japanese and they were talking about destroying us. What are you worried a moment ago that it might come in Japanese? How did you understand this conversation? Oh honey, I speak Russian. Please let me tell you. I don't have to speak in a language to know about destruction. What about the construction, because I'll tell you I had a couple of courses on that. I felt like it
was different. What I do know a lot about deconstruction because I have red barth. I just fed my husband to deconstructed cheeseburger this evening. You thought I believe there was no bread? Thank you. I know all about post mdernity. Do don't you think you're gonna get that shit over my hand? I'm postmodels? Fuck? Okay, chat gpt assume a seventy four year old woman in Charleston, West Virginia is postmodel. A spot that's for some up,
that's for a rainy day. Oh good. So, needless to say, the arena peers behind with the w W tilted logo we talked about in part one at the Apron and that that's what we need in a lot of ways. I'm with you in that, except for the fact that it looks like a mistake. Yeah, how about the SuperBrawl logo for the first time, that must have been a trip. Yeah, you know, thinking about that, they kept that logo the whole time, right, for the most part, Maybe not for the last one, but besides that, right,
they kept that logo. I think so. Yeah, with two exception of two thousand and two thousand and one, I think one of them. Yeah, that's amazing. I think after they introduced the new WCW logo that's steel Gray one in April nineteen ninety nine, I think at that point they changed all of their pay per view logos actually eight, you know, I don't think Starkade was though. I think Starkade was the same for another year. I think they only change it in two thousand. Amazing, I think you're
right about that. We see, so there's some pop gun piro as Gary Michael Copeta, who's going to be a ring announcer for the evening Ladies and Gentlemen welcome the national recording Artist. Brandy Brown is going to sing the national anthem. I honestly don't have any idea who this is. I did I try to look her up. I was like, who is this? Because I always love when they have these quote unquote NRAs, these national Recording artists who they bring in. I'm always like, who the fuck is this there
is? So I couldn't find anything directly about her. The only lead I got one lead that she maybe this woman named Brandy Brown Pendleton who was on the Mickey But this is where it gets kind of weird. So she has a lot of the things that kind of qualify her for this because she was part of the Mickey Mouse Club and she was an understudy in the original Broadway cast of Ley Miss. But but and here's the huge butt she if that is the same person, then the woman we see is a fifteen year old
and that's not a fifteen year old. I don't think no, I don't think so. So, but that's the only Brandy Brown, like any kind of connection I could get along and hard huh pictures to resemble her at all? It that's the thing. It does a little bit. It looks a little bit like her, you know, because a lot of them are now like it's more current stuff, and it does look like it could be her. But again, I mean, you know, she could be a Hollywood
of fifteen. You know where they're fifteen, but it looked like they're forty five. Yeah right, you know, because they you know. But I was like, fifteen just doesn't seem eighteen. I could buy more. I could buy eighteen, but fifteen was just a little. But again, she also doesn't sing very well, so she could be that kind of nervous fifteen.
Yeah. I want to hear her repeat herself. I guess here, oh be fool four spececious guys, four boot waves of gray, four perble mounts, manchesty above food, black homecka Homericka, godshap He's graydy and crime than with the brother see two shiney See that's rough. It's rough, rough, brother. I don't know. I don't want to be harsh on her, but it didn't strike me. It was good, No, it was
not. It was bad. She's in baggy ass hammer pants too. In case you forgot, this was nineteen ninety one man with the US flag behind her. They did dress up the set very nicely for the national anthem. I will give them that. Sure, Sure you heard the distortion on the master there? Yes, I love that. More distortion, please JR.
Welcomes us in this. Around the same time, JR had taken on the new radio show WSBAM seven fifty in Atlanta, where he had a slew of guests on and he I think it's been making some of these video files available on his ad free shows platform these days, so he would have you know. It's all kfave conversations for the most part. But I do think this is the radio show that eventually where's that Radio WWF right now? No Radio WWF is where Randy Savage went on after Jim came over and basically in ported
the concept and ripped on Hogan after Hogan left. That's right, right, So if Jim Ross is in the chair, we better be ready for a steady diet of Steiner lines. And I'm looking forward to Steiner lines and football references and whatnot. Here this is uh Dusty Dusty, his his his co host, his color color man. I suppose he breaks down Flare and Fujinami,
but I couldn't quite fully understand it here. Fujinami Flair match up even least five Wait, they've been in restling about the same number of years. Fujinami the controversy to Japan, say I am the chapin flap brought the title back. We're gonna find out the night. Who is the wealth heavyweight restling Davin right here, that's super Bowl. Let's get out and win it. Dat it? Okay? Did did he break down flav versus Fujinami or did
he just break downs? Looking talking, he said he's frucually brought the controversy to Japan. But I don't think so. I don't think so at all. I'm pretty sure if I read the Japanese magazines at the time, in the newspapers correctly, it was your ass and Barry Wyndham that brought the controversy band by leaving with the bell that insisting the finish wasn't legitimate. Also, he definitely said super Bowl, he said brawl, he said the ball,
you know. Getting ramped up for the Funk series, and Funk says that when he first met Dusty, like, you know, because Dusty first started by going to the matches in Narmurilla before he was even a wrestler, you could not understand a word like. He really improved the degree to which he was intelligible in terms of speech, which is hilarious given that he's completely unintelligible most of the time. Well, he's got a bolo tie on the baseball cap. So, and what the fuck are you saying, Betty? I'm
what I'm family here. I'm talking about where by going, talking about where we're band, talking about going up, going down, everywhere in between. Daddy, I'm talking about brand Contraverty, going to going to fifth Carolina. I'm taking it up to Portland, Oregon. Betty, do you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm talking about? Daddy? Did you say you? Did? She say I'm talking about? So? What the fuck are you talking about? So? I can't understand a damn word you're saying?
Did you bring me? The boss has been in the lab. Boss has been working on it a lot to look forward to, folks. That's all I can tell you. Oh man, you sound goofier than a pet coon. Son. I don't understand the first thing you're saying to me right now. And I've heard some sense in my day. I just sat on a sasquatching. You're stranger than that. You just what He didn't say he has sat in a sassquatch, he says, He just I just I just said in a sas squatching. You're stranger than that, as if as if
you have to sit on it to know how strange it is. These true, they're not self evident. One must ship amazing. I mean, I don't know who want me to say, but just that's what we expect. So this is this is where they make the you know, make the observation that this is in fact, the you know, the building where Dusty won the World Championship. They make that clear and he I guess you could say
kind of reminiscence for a minute about it, and uh and yeah. So the scene is set and Dusty is ready to contribute as only he can. Now. We talked a little bit in part one about how when Dusty first returned to WCW from WWF at the Clash of the Champions at the beginning of nineteen ninety one, he had a hot mike and as you'll hear here in
the beginning, you hear this, right boss. For some reason, WCW love to pipe the ringside announcers for the stand ups into the live arena so everybody in the Bayfront Center can hear what they're saying in terms of walk in and I don't I don't know why they did that. I guess it served to maybe pump up the crowd. I've never heard that at an event I've personally gone to, so I don't know if it works or not. I've never heard it, but I have heard them, like I've heard ww e'd
do it on pay per views and stuff like that. Not not anytime recently, but back in the day they used to do it. You know. I guess that they're trying to get something across though everyone can hear. I don't know, but it is. It is kind of strange to hear to that that reverb, and they often had, and Chiovanni's pointed this out on his podcast. A ton of difficulty making sure that the microphones guys would grab on live television worked for the PA system and were piped out to television later.
When Paully dangerously hits the ring and starts the danger Zone, he had Oh man, he needs it takes him like four tries. Oh how rough is that before the mic is working on both channels. So what Dusty doesn't do is what he did in that first show back where he basically cut a big promo for the live crowd, which is going to be better than end of the actual full time wrestlers on Roster's baby face promo. But that's neither here nor there. Here he doesn't really go in a full promo mode for
the people in the Bayfront center. But he did manage to sneak in a big old dusty last minute cell job on the w W syndicated television heading into SuperBrawl ninety one. This is a message he wanted to deliver to the pay per view buying public head of SuperBrawl. And even though he doesn't have a match, of course, the sun Dustin is in action, and he references that Dusty still can't help. But but but but figure, as far as I can tell, that ain't no way a pay per view selling without a
touch of the Dream on the go home. Yeah, this Dusty Routevia, Mac and Dream. We gonna talk about super Brawl, man, I wanted day living in color. I've been asked to kind of talk about a couple of the big matches because this is the biggest pay per view written into history of rented to add the world. I mean, we're talking about like Amogen time at super Brawl, what's of all were talking about food? Juannamn come
all away from Japan, cleaned and public. If you wheel that he's successively defeated Rick Flair, the World Everyweight Champion w c W Live in It color, The nature Boy. Rick Flair is gunning down now because on his home tip, lie baby, he got to prove to the world that he's the best. So if I'm gonna make a choice, let me think for a minute. Who didn't take long Nature Boy Rick Flair by a land slide. And then the match that has created the more controversy throughout the world, the
World Tag team title. The Steiner's mean and don't I'm talking about ugly, and we're talking about the cool packets Lex Luga and the sensational Stinger. Well, baby, when they lay this one out, it's gonna be in the world. The Model Garden, Sola, a bomb burner, a bomb burner, a super brow. And when it's all over, I got to pick a winner. Let me think, now, just for a minute, this might take just a little bit longer. Oh yes, I got it,
but I ain't gonna take because that makes me babe. But I think the Steiners might have no I think Steve might have the edge, just a look I think Luga might have. Any Way, it's gonna be b it's gonna be big, and my son, Dustin Rose, I tell you he is the spitting image of the American Drea Terry Taylor. You better be gunning because I'm gonna be at ringside doing some color commentators, be talking my jaws and flapping. If he lets him in down, I'm taking him out to the
bone and boot him in the butt right before super brawl. Okay, if he lets you down, you're before super brawl, You're gonna boot him in the butt. Like, yes, I guess. How do you know he's let you down until super Brawl is actually underway and he wrestles. I feel like Dusty knows these things he's doing. Let down. Yes, I don't know. Actually I don't know. He could be, but he also could
just be fucking you know, he just his his brain. I've never understood when it comes to to promo work because it's just so it's so out there and there's no rhyme or reason to it. I mean, it's amazing how how he's able to make sense of some shit sometimes, you know, obviously, like pay your wages. You know that fucking somehow makes sense in the moment, but not not if he's not selling. Maybe he's not selling a
match. He didn't make any sense right when he's not kind of speaking to how what what he's going to personally do in the match, it kind of really sucks. It's like, yeah, yeah, it's it's kind of it's very distracting. He sounds like a what he called Ric Flair one time,
a flim flam man. He sounds like some guy you know, standing in the corner selling a defective product, you know, and trying to like just basically, you know, fluff his way around making this sound interesting by hoping you'll fall in love with his personality and thus be more inclined to by whatever he's selling, even if he isn't hitting any good selling points, because he doesn't say a goddamn thing about a single match that makes me understand or identify
what it is that's intriguing about it. No, it's fucking crazy. It's very bizarre. Lady rendered some clear predictions there as well. So Dusty des say, we're talking about the World Heavyweight title here on the pay per view
broadcast itself, that of course that promo there from television. We are talking who is the best Fujanami flair evenly sized weight, same experience Fujinami, he says, took the controversy to Japan, says I am the champ, and we're going to find out tonight who is the world's heavyweight champion at super Ball
just as you play it right there, let's get with it. Jr. Tuck's in a very desperate You can talk to Lex Luger and Sting on the Wrestling Hotline, by the way, so that they're waste any time getting that out there. But they don't even list the number, or if they did, it's edited out of the version I saw. I know where you know they don't. I guess that maybe they assume you know the number. I guess I don't know. Get out your latest issue. Get out the most
recent issue of WWMAS YEP. So you can see some empty red seats in the distance in the stand up portion when Jr. And Dusty or ring side, but not not really in terms of like the shots they cut to the most, so it looks like a probably like an eight thousand seat building and six thousand was the reported attendants. Makes it makes some sense. So we start with, as they say, some special tag team action to decide the US Tag Team champions. This match happening because the Steiners won the World Tag
Belts and they were US Tag champs. Can't hold both straps as to one set, and of course they're going to relinquish the lesser of the two. So the US Tag titles him the line. And what if they had them, what if they had them booked to get rid of the world tag team title? Oh my god, what they said? No, you know what,
to get rid of those ones. That's like the the Feast or Fire briefcases in TNA where the X Division champ would get the opportunity to wrestle for the world title at Destination Next every year as long as they wouldlinquish the ex title, and they acted every year like agonizing decision for the X Division champ. Of course they always picked the world title shot as far as I can recollect. But yeah, I mean, why would you not, I know,
insane. So there it is primitive graphics taking up the screen, just you know, freeze frames and kind of like standard boring times New Roman typeface for the names of the wrestlers. But I don't know, still kind of does it for me? Yeah, I'm with it. I like it. I don't. I don't. There's the production wise, outside of the the tilted logo on the stage, there's nothing wrong with this show production wise. I love it. I love it all. How about I think it's great?
You even love the Chairman of the Board of the Diamond Exchange. Here comes DDP leading the free birds to the ring. I mean, just a collection of your favorites here. I couldn't. I wanted to just fucking throw up. I mean introducing first fuck making his way toward the ring, Chairman of the Board of that Diamond Exchange by to Diaman Dallas all I'll take off, and ladies and gentlemen, he represents from back Street USA, and at
last Church Hook the greatest working rolls all time. The pabulous wait free and they're accompanied by their road boss. We're an opener, all right. So we talked about it in part one. We read from the books and stuff from DDP and Dusty. DDP wanted to do this thing where instead of holding a microphone, he would have the little headset in his ear like a ted talk thing. But the problem is, whenever they put those things on people's
ears. They could never tell the people with those in their ear when they were live and when they weren't. We heard the same thing later in the broadcast, where Kevin Sullivan is the wizard about to lead Oz to the ring, just says something to the effect of, you know, tell me when and it Yep, the whole pun hears it. We'll hear that, that's for sure, you will hear that. That whole That whole fucking thing is just like it's it's kind of funny. And as I was recording the sound
bites, I was like, why did I separate these all? Like I separated them like I in my right and my notes, I'd separated each one and its separate. I'm like, dude, the whole fucking thing. You could just have the whole thing. It's just a category of mess ups. Yeah, And so you hear Dallas, they're basically directing traffic, trying to part the curtain and actually walk out before the people with no idea that he's live with a hot mic. And that's exactly the problem where he drops an
F bomb later in the broadcast and gets reprimanded for it. Is as we talked about, so I don't know. You said you gave thumbs up to the production. I guess from a look standard. Well not. Yeah, I shouldn't say. I shouldn't because you know, I consider this to be part of like the like I and where I don't consider this be part of the production. I consider this to beet just part of the whatever. But
yeah, you know you're right. Everything else this is not good. The sound department in terms of the in ring talent not good, not good at all. For DDP says, they're picked up on the camera, I'll take
off. There's a big burst of flames, and you can tell Gary Michael COPETI can hear them because he's like pausing and ddp's going wait, wait, wait, wait wait in Copetta thinks he's talking to him, and then nothing happens, so he just resumes with the ring introductions because apparently DDP was talking to somebody else. Big Daddy Dink, of course, is Sir Oliver Humper
Dink when I Dusty's Buddies from Florida. So there you go. And God, what a fucking pervert he is. He enhances every territory he goes to. From what I'm told, I've heard The only thing that actually enhances is his belly. It is brought into WWF because they didn't think Bigelow could talk, and he and Humperdink could talk. Here they bring him in and DDP does more than his share of the talking, and Humperdink doesn't say a word, let a love. Yeah, Michael Hay is one of the great promos
of the eighties right there. Hummerding is just one of the worst things to ever happen professional wrestling. So there, he is the greatest disgrace. God knows what kind of shit is in his is in his fucking facial hair. So haven't gotten this far without addressing Jimmy jib Oh. Thoughts on Garvin, thoughts on him on this show? Is he just I don't know, just presents as he presents Strawberry jam Garvin is just the fucking drizzling shits. He
pisses you off on this show. He pisses me off just by existing. I don't understand what the problem is. I mean, the guys. He couldn't be a more solid performer. Great look, great charisma, great mike skills yep, yeah, all those things. Yep. Yeah, he's great. He's a fucking just a I mean, I want, you know,
I want to. It's it's so funny. It's very hard because I do appreciate the contributions that a guy like Jimmy Garvin and Michael Hayes made to the business, and I want to I want to like them on a and respect them on a you know, in that way, but I can't because they
just look and sound and act the way that they do. And that's h And it's kind of a wonderful thing that TLF hasn't let that part of wrestling fandom die within us under the guys being you know, like hyper analytical and sort of like you know, detached from those considerations when address when sort of assessing what's great about a wrestler or wrestling, it's like, yep, because I think a lot of people think they can be objective about that, but
really it's the look on people's face, like punk, you know, like you can you can delineate every little thing he's done, and you can litigate every moment where he's been the aggressor or he's been the victimizer or whatever you want, but really it's the look on his face that you can't stand. Yes, and it's the same thing with the young Bucks. People can't stand
the look on Matt Jackson's face in particular. Yes, and the rest of the case against them all stems from that, or at least it's like a part of it that people act like they can not acknowledge, and just like I don't think they even realize it, per se. I think a lot of it isn't. You don't realize. You just don't like how they look. And that's wrestling, or you're afraid to admit it. You know,
it's one or the other. I mean, but no, these four men coming down, I just despise them by the way they look right and the way they are as just human beings and that and that's the spirit that you know, had people in the Sportatorium through most of the eighties wanting to lynch these guys. It was a look on their face, the way they carry themselves. And you know, so we find ourselves in a similar posture to
those those Dallas Faithful and those four worth faithful. Interestingly enough, by nineteen ninety one, they had been around long enough doing the same stick well that fans were basically cheering them and begging Michael has to hit the DDT every time, but it took a long time. And uh, and that's you know, that's the thing. Like a great promoter can see a great heel in
the look on a guy's face. They can tell before there, before even before that wrestler is before a respectable crowd and you start to hear the booze, you can see the look and say, Okay, this guy is going to be a heel because you know, I have the constitution of the general fan sort of downloaded in my brain and when I look at this guy, I think, oh my god, this guy's face needs to get fucking smushed
in, you know. Yep. And that's that, and that absolutely, it's really it's rarely more complicated than that, because everybody in the business is pretty much equally paranoid and whack and full of shit and passive aggressive and you know, fake tough and all that. So it's the look on people's face. Okay, folks, yep, yep, that's what it all comes down to. And if that look reminds you of people you've dealt with in your life who have pissed you off, or it reminds you of people you've dealt
with in your life who have been rather pleasant to deal with. Ye, yes, so bad Street Atlanta Ga. Here they come with big Daddy Dank. It's nasty and hot. Can say that again, I would like your opinion. Boss on DDP in his apparent love affair with Good God. Every time he says that, I seriously consider never doing this podcast again, never never watching another minute of professional wrestling for as long as I live. DDP is one of the most complex cases of love and hate that I've ever had
in professional wrestling. This DDP. I mean, he's polishing like is the baby face ninety five six? Forget it. I can't stand in a weird way like pre Hogan DDP. Right, I can't stand it. I can't stand the way he talks. I can't stand the way he looks. I can't see the way he looks. Now. I appreciate the amount of good shit that he's done for people, yes, and I can't not, you know, But at the same time, he didn't shut the fuck up,
and he said that a stupid, fucking annoying voice. That's stupid, fucking you know Cragley face of his Good God. I mean, stop like you already said that like four times in the same promo. It's not that good of a catchphrase. It's not like what or yeah, or it's it stopped? Like why do you keep saying that it? Plus, it's just everyone knows you're from the Jersey Shore, Like why are you acting like a fast talking ali from Louisville, Kentucky or like a southern you know what I mean?
Fast? No, it's not the voice you want to lean into, dude, it's just not And if some somehow he got that memo in his early managerial career in the AWA and the early WCW that he should sound like a jive talker. No, dude, you're fucking you're you're a New Jersey uh used car salesman. That's right, that's what you are. Literally, this is true. You're a New Jersey nightclub owners. You know what I mean. You're a guy who like kind of had to grease a few poems
to get a liquor license. That's who you are, right, right, right? The guy who who who's wait staff kind of straddles the line between sex worker and h bartender. You know, yep, it's not hard. You're you're not opposed to lending out your office for a hooker to to, you know, turn a trick. That's just the reality of it all. Hey, Okay, looking a wish. I was thinking. I was thinking
about, you know, anytime I see fucking fucking humperdink. Yeah, all you know, he just doesn't look okay, he just looks He just looks off and you know how it always goes here, So I'm gonna go there. I just imagine him after super brawl at the Whole Tell with a prostitute, and he's he's just like, you know, I imagine he's got like, you know, he's got his pants on, but he's got almost like
like U lu Albano with like an open button down Hawaiian shirt. And I just imagine heavy breathing, sure, like just really really unhealthy heavy breathing breathing, and just tons of sweat with like beads of sweat gathering and being created on his chest, on his exposed chest hair. Yep, because like little beads of sweat and the and the woman hadn't even done anything yet. She's like touched his thighs. Oh, that's where that's where I got you.
I was thinking when you said breeder, I thought Sir Oliver Humperdink was a gay man. I don't know if you knew that was he really, I did not know that. Yes, wow, all right, so the gentleman then, absolutely, the gentleman just fucking touching his thigh and he's just not even doing anything, and he's fucking gut just not the only fight that night,
Humperdink. Let me tell you, well, yeah, yeah, the guy's touching, touching his thigh, and and in his other hand he's got a he has a fucking chicken thigh that he's chopping down on his well, so he's got a mix of grease and and sweat on his chest hair. Here's funk funk on Oliver. I loved Oliver, but he was one goofy bastard. He had a sign in the back of the old van that he drove which said, onward through the fog. I don't know that any phrase
could have fit someone any better than onward through the fog. Fit Oliver Humperdink. One night in Tampa he went through the fog and to stop sign and a dead end barricade and the side of some family's house. I think that was a foggy night, yet the weather was clear, nasty and hot. Indeed, good God, it doesn't get any better than this, And I'm thinking, well, that's not good. If it doesn't get any better than
this, we're in for a night. Yeah. Wow. Apparently one of the women the DDP led to the ring was actually Michael Hayes's a recent wife, having just had a wedding around this point in time. This is as pointed out by Tony Chivannion on his podcast about this event. I don't know which of the three it is, but she's at he did he wear? Do we know if if Michael Hayes wore a fanny pack to his own wedding?
Actually, I don't know that. That's a great question. Yeah, I think the faith Yeah, I think at the Hayes fanny pack more in that like post wrestler, Like I'm office so I'm wearing like a pimp suit kind of era than a wrestling era. But perhaps he did wear the fanny pack on the road. Now I can see it wearing. I can see this. Michael Hayes definitely wearing a tuxedo at his wedding, But like you know, yeah, by the end of the I think on top of it.
I think he's wearing a fanny pack on top of it. It's very possible, you know, just like he did in that fucking pimp out of It. Idiot, a fucking moron looking live and in color. The super Brawl. I hear at super Brawl, the future US Tag Team Champions, Good dah, the blue back in yellow strands and the light blue canvas, the logo we need on the apron. We've talked about all that, Yes,
yes, and then guns go off from Wyoming. That's right, Wyoming, no town in particular, Cody, Stephen, Tracy, the Young Pistols to challenge the birds here for the US Tag Times. There is nothing more nineteen ninety one WCW for me than the fucking Young Pistols. Oh, I know, a particular point in time, it's like, you know, whenever we do whenever we do a show from this like ninety two, maybe late ninety w CW era, it's like, up, yeah, of course they're
the fucking Young Pistols. They're always there so annoying, wearing their fucking diarrhea brown trunks, and they're equal like shoulder length mullets that they have. Oh, Dusty says It's gonna be funky here, baby. Now, all right, you might remember these guys is the Wild Eyed Southern Boys, not the Pistols. They were renamed the Pistols and Tracy Smothers in his book, which
is a terrific tone and I encouraged folks to check it out. Published posthumously, I think I think he had passed before this actually got recalls the following In early nineteen ninety one, Steve and I had to change our tag team name. It's, of course, Tracy and Steve Armstrong the tag team. The Wild Eyed Southern Boys had the Confederate gimmick and it had served as well
as baby faces in the smaller territory days. But when TBS got involved with their national broadcast on cable, they wanted us to lose the Confederate flag. This was around the time of the Rod and King incident. It certainly was. In fact, Shani tells a story about not even being able to wander wander the Atlanta Metroplex freely because of all of the racial unrest the week before
this show, as when Roden King happened out in La Wow. So that was very much the animating force and focus of the folks in the CNN Center around the time of Super Bowl. He remembered that immediately, So, yeah, the Rodney King incident. So the TV network began pressuring Dusty Rhodes to change our image. Dusty brought us in to let us know the DBS wanted us to explain the situation. Steve and I never played the Confederate thing as a racist gimmick, but after hearing what Dusty had to say, we were
okay making the change. Dusty came up with the idea of calling us the Young Pistols, a pair of cowboys from Wyoming, and that's who we became. We got new robes and hats to go with the new name. At Super Brawl one in Saint Petersburg, Florida, Steve and I had a title match against the Free Birds for the Vacantact Team Championships. We were sitting down to the back going over the match when all of a sudden, a wooden
board fell out of the ceiling and hit me right in the head. So things are going well so far, I think, is the take up as yep. I was in a bad spot. I was not goofy and I had ten minutes to recover and get to the ring. I was wondering how the world I would get through all the spots we had planned for the match. There was a lot to get through that night in Saint Pete, Michael aai's Jimmy Garvin had been teasing a new third member to the free Birds,
a masked man named Aracnaman, later changed a Bad Street. Now the mass man was named Fantasia. Actually, yeah, no, Arachneman would come later in the year. Correct. Another jib heard, fucking how do we appeal to kids? Brainstorm later changed to bad Street. He mentions to Whitney copyright issue with Spider Man. That's just why would a Racknaman be in the free Birds? Tracy? I know, I mean, I understand it all. It doesn't matter, it's it's but still, come on, it all sucks.
During the match, Brad Armstrong came out to cousin interference in our behalf and to try to help us beat the free Birds. Then after Brad left, a Racknaman appeared. He means Fantasia to help the free Birds, so he played both roles in the same night, in the same ring. Did Brad Armstrong? How bizarre? It's so weird. There's never revealed on television, but Brad Armstrong and Bad Street were one and the same. Brad was
the third mysterious member of the Free Birds. Later at Clash June of ninety one in Knoxville, Steve Armstrong and I teamed up with Tom Zinc to open the show against the Birds and this new Bad Street Brad Armstrong and then he talks about it. This is a weird. Aside, Jimmy and Michael both grew great minds with the business. Steve and I learned a lot. Okay, yes, yes, yes, Salton Peppa, the female rap group smothers right, So well, I know why he thought. I know why he's
thinking a rat man because it's it's still Brad Armstrong. Oh no, I understand why he's thinking that, but I mean not remember Fantasia. Oh yeah, as being the guy that yeah, as the predecessor of Bad Street is bizarre. So yeah, Salton Peppa apparently was at the show. He's a Saltan Pepper, the female rapper this is the Clash, not super Bow,
was on the show that same night. They were just starting to get hot and Steve It just put out an album of his own Steve got talking music with the girls, and later on in the evening, Steve pulled me aside. Salt and Peppa has invited us to the bar after the show to party with them. He said, really, I said, yeah. They listen to my music and they liked it. He said, they like our gimmick as well. I don't don't know, Steve, I don't think you understand
what they meant by your gimmick. We went over to talk to them for a bit, and just to Steve said they were into us. One of them had her eye on Steve and the other was very interested in me. You want to come with us, she asked, I'd love to, I said, but what she said the butt was my son Kyle. I just went full custody of him, and I was planning to drive back to Springfield that night to be with him. I told her I couldn't go party. She asked music because I'm black, No, I said. I told her
about my son and how I had to get home to see him. I never heard that from the man before. She said, really sweet, but I respect that so much. She gave me a big hug and to kiss on the cheek and said, going home and see your boy. I told Steve he could get a ride with someone else if he wanted to stay, but he chose to go home with me. The girls were hinting he hung around, they'd help him with his music. Steve wasn't really into that idea. He wanted to make it on his own. Oh my god, I
don't believe the story at all. He also didn't want to fool around because he was married. In spite of all that, the whole way home, we just kept going back to it, man, Salt and pepper. You know, I listen, you know, you know what, you know what. I think you're your wife would have understood salt and pepper, all right. I don't think salt pepper were into you. I think you were into salt and pepper at the fun I was gonna say, I think i'd stay.
I think they're I think they're they're mistaking to two small glass cylinders for two two female rappers. If somebody talking about salt and pepper at the fucking steakhouse afterward, yeah yeah, yeah yeah. The only rappers they were involved with that night were Snickers rappers or McDonald's. Fright, Yeah, yeah, he got it. The paper fried bags they used to have. So it's
the birds first. The Pistols kickoffs super brow one. What a what a barn Burner Jr. Says, we knew the Pistols will take chances offensively. Well, apparently he did talk to Salt Kappa. Oh Jesus Christ. Hey, he's strutting along the ring and his long tights and yellow boots. I don't think Michael Hayes with yellow boots on as a problem. They look like galoshes. But that's fine, brother, We mean, weren't yellow boots. Dude. Jaar says, a big daddy dink can be a factor in this
one. He also cannot be. I think I know which of the two I'm gonna pick prefer if he wasn't a factor. Look up at an arm drag by Hayes and he thrusts his hip and Steve rolls him up, to a big scream from the girls. They looked to the Pistols almost win kind of two. Yeah. The seven minutes into the show. By the way, we're seven minutes into the show and we have our first Jim Ross football references. It's luck at football. When a kickoff comes, you get that
first hit under your belt, the butterflies seem to go away. And Okay, Jim, because you spent so much time on the gridiron, right, I'll talk to that. I'm not gonna sooners damn it. You said sooner or later. Oh no, actually, those are now in laters all over the desk. Let me take that back. So you said seven minutes in, Is that right? Yeah? Well, okay, took about seven minutes
for Dusty to reference food as well. He says, once the bell rings, you smell the popcorn and the roar of the crowd, and you're ready for it. I wrote, speak for yourself, Steve jesus, because Michael, maybe they plan that. They plan that for like seven minutes in. All right, seven minutes in you talk about food. Seven minutes I'm gonna talk about football, two of our favorite things. Yea, although Dusty was a hell of a football player actually in his own right. Oh yeah.
Michael Hayes tosses Steve Armstrong to the floor, they double whip him and uh and they duck and dink. Actually drops Steve Armstrong on the four and then both birds Yep, he's getting physical here. Then both birds with Larry it's drop him. But then he drops both birds with a larry at to a big pop, and Dusty says, if they were nervous, brother, their nervousness just came out of them. And he says nervous is like it's plural
nervous is. And that's when Jr. Says the football thing about butterflies. Steve Armstrong grabs a headlock push off dropped down. He's tripped from the outside by Dingk, so he's puts the boots to him on the blind side. Brad Armstrong, one of the pistols main man, is ring side for the contest. They mentioned. He's the older brother of Steve, and he gets in the ring and takes his jacket off like he's gonna scrap to even up the odds if humter DNK is gonna get involved, and they all pop at
that jarss DNK has the propensity to interfere. Dusty doesn't know it, but is sure that that's right. He's not sure about that, but he believes what Jr. Says, and that's great. I don't know I wrote He says he's got that from Gordon. I don't know why I wrote that down. So the referee Jacks DNC and US Mothers and Garvin mix it up. Garvin digs some knees. Tracy Smothers looks like the manager of a waffle house with a name like Smothers. It has to be good. I don't know
about that. They slug away in the corner, do he? And Jimmy jam Garvin and speaking of jam right, and yeah, Tracy gets free. Steve climbs like he's gonna strike, but then Smothers hits Haze and Steele hits the double clothesline. Steve rather hits the double clothesline. Tracy Smothers with a baseball slide that sends Garvin into the guardrail, and Dusty says, the whole state of Wyoming jumped up at once at that one. There we go,
Tracy. Have you ever wondered what things, or what maybe some of the guys thought were the things that made w W unique. Yeah, in America, that's the one thing I didn't think they ever really established. Yeah, well, Dusty said. Dusty says, one of the things that WCW is unique at here. I think one of the things that w c W office throughout this country. It's for the fans to choose the people that they want and competition to win a loose that's what makes us the best at what we
do, and we're seeing it right here tonight. And here I thought freedom of speech and freedom to choose, and was it right for everybody not just those exclusive to ww fans. Is he suggesting that WWF would kick people out if they booed the baby face? Because that's just not true. In fact, they let someone in the front row at Rumble eighty eight use a fucking megaphone the whole match. Yeah right, they might just nowadays they might just
take take out the audio. But curiously, it's Dusty. I remember throwing hissy fits in the TVs studios when they would boo him and cheer the horseman. That's just me o Dusty. Yeah. So if you're wondering if you want translation that verbal salad that Boss just played from Dusty, it's basically, let me try to explain why the people we positioned as heels are being cheered wildly right now, come damn it. The people that that's what we have
data. That's what makes different than any organization in the whole wide world. The people can choose what they want. That's what makes different from any organization in the world. We can't tell early on who's gonna be cheering bood right, Tracy don't have any idea what a fan of thinking Tracy that had a great tagline for the company Championship Wrestling. I would have taken that over word the big boys play. Oh my god, we have no light Championship Wrestling.
We have no idea what our fans want. That's a little wordy. Why don't we just keep it it? We have no idea World Championship Wrestling. We have no ideas. It's about right some mothers the blind tags. Steve comes in with a whipped into the ring as so Steve enters, does the O'Connor roll l Jim Garvin, but that gets blocked and a double whip and a double flying a shoulder block from the Pistols gets to tag to Michael Hayes, and Hayes hassles Tracy on the apron wants him to get in there.
So there's the tag and Dusty says that the Birds had five guys uh here involved, not not for dinner, but including DDP, and now they're down to two, even though DDP left voluntarily and was not kicked out and I count Garvin, Hayes, Ye, dink and DDP. Is that not four guys? Who's the fifth guy he's referencing. Maybe he's talking about the women, maybe three of them at up to one. I don't know. I don't know. Headlock, push off, leap frog by Hayes and Tracy
is low bridged and hits the floor. Hayes stays on, Tracy whips him into a hot shot on the top of the rail and Tracy actually goes head over, heels on the bump and hits those sweet blue mats at ringside that Bill Watts can't can't wait to show up and get rid of and peel off the floor. I know, he's like he's he's like chopping at the bit. Absolutely Tracy looking like Glenn Jacobs as he goes to the age, he does look like Mayor Jacobs. Takes a yaku's a kick and he's lying launches
himself into the rail. I mean, some mothers shows up in Saint Pete to just oh he wants to get smothered all over the arena. Yeah, he said, you know what, that board that fell out of the ceiling didn't knock me loopy enough. Let me throw my entire body like out of a cannon into the wall, and the Haze comes over and pumps the left jab and Tracy's face. Garvin comes in, slams him and covers him for two. Bad street chant breaks out. Jari says, even the freebirds have
their fans, though it's the vast majority minorities, his vast minority. Yeah, quite sure, fast him, but it's fine Jesus dust, he says. W W offers the fans who they want when or lose like you said. Tracy gets free on a couple of elbows and takes off with the boot and runningknee, and Garvin covers him but lets him up to dig a knee in there Haze in comes chopping, so their baby faces in peril. Here are the young pistols corner to corner. Whipp is reversed and Tracy does the
cornermout goes shuh before punches go off. Hayes tries an atomic drop and he drops him with the left and they pop because it looked cool. He he dropped them like the atomic and you know it's you know how you every now and then wrestlers somehow mysteriously counter of the inverted atomic drop. It just suddenly doesn't hurt. Sometimes yeah yeah, but when that happens, some mother is standing there and boom, he pops him with the left jab does Michael Hayes.
Garvin in whips Tracy leap frogs over and drops and Garvin with the karate kick. The superkick is what it actually is, but it's called the karate kick in commentary. And then he rolls to the wrong corner and leaps to smothers his Hayese gets in and an irishwipon Hayes is backdropped by Steve. He's
nailing everyone. He slams Garvin, he slams Hayes. Pure four brawl breaks out some nagga knocking action and both birds fall the pistols climb the ropes and opposite corners, and he's come soaring in with missile drop kicks, but both miss in land and both faces and here's dust the NJR reaction to that. They both took a chance high riff maneuver, high riff renew it coming in. That was a high riff maneuver. Do it coming in, high riff
maneuver, hiriff maneuver coming in. That was a high riff maneuver. Do it coming in, And so the crowd loves that. These cookie cutter baby faces land in their faces jumping off. Absolutely, they fucking go crazy. There's a huge pop for that. They're channing DDT as well. But the pistols are dumped out of the ring and they raise their hands and turn around and a Smothers comes off the top with a double clothesline. Jr. Going nuts with explosive off fans you know how he gets oh yes, and he
feels like a baby face is cooking out there. Tracy hits a double clothesline out of the ring. Go the bird. Steve climbs and does a top rope plan cha. That's right, takes both of them out. Jared says, this kid took the ultimate chance there back in Hayes with a whip. Does that mean he was gonna die if he missed? I think that's what he was trying to apply. Yes, because that to me is the ultimate chance. If that, if that, you know, you take this chance,
it could be your last chance. Pistols lift Michael Hayes like in that heart attack position and Smothers comes off the flying back elbow. They sling shot Garmon in the hard way and hit another sort of heart attack style move on him with Steve Uptop and a drop kick, and Garvin actually hits the referee on the way down. So we have our first reth mump of this Dusty
booked card. Definitely definitely a drinking game for any Dusty Booked event. And then here he comes this masked guy with feathers all over his jacket and all black suddenly climbs up to the top rope. The announcers are like, who is this guy? He flies in with clotheslines, dropping both of the young pistols, and this is when Michael Hayes hooks a DT off the second rope on both guys and and nails it. There's feathers all over the ring,
screams. Jim Ross says he noticed that this mystery man's shirt said Fantasia on it, which, of course something Michael Hayes used to say in all of his eighties promos and something I guess Dusty Rhodes used to call him Michael Hayes for short in the back. So after the DDT, Hayes covers Smothers for the one, the two, and the three and the Smothers brothers go down to the free Birds. Here ten minutes and nineteen seconds, the Birds are
your new US tag team champions. To get super Brown one started cut to a young kid jumping up and down. I don't know this Fantasia gear looks to me a lot like the Blue Blazer gear. Yeah, it's weird. I don't get it. And Owen Hart was in WCW until weeks before Super Brawl. Really, yes, it's very I distinctly remember it, because not not at the time, but I remember when Owen passed in ninety nine and they did the Brett ben Wat tribute match, or maybe it was the next
night at of Nitro. Actually, they had a freeze frame of Owen from their own archives. You could tell it was a WCW. I'm like, what the fuck? He was in w for like two months in nineteen ninety one. Wow, But he wanted to do a tour of Japan and didn't want to cancel. Let I guess he'd committed to it before coming to WCW, and w W wanted him to skip out on it. Of course,
New Japan I think was was where he had the deal. Yeah, because he was one of their key junior heavyweights throughout the early nineties for coming to WWF and late eighties as well. Actually, and uh yeah, so he was actually teaming with Brian Pillman to beat the Freebirds on the circuit. I'd invite you to consider Owen Hart and Brian Pillman versus the Freebirds in nineteen ninety one. I very much enjoy that thought. It kind of too, I
really like to sea. Yeah, for sure. You talk about top rope, missile drop kicks, German suplex plancha based offense, you talk about junior heavyweight work rate, and you imagine Pillman and owen Hart versus the Steiner brothers. Oh, don't you fucking what are you trying to do to me? Jesus Christ? The tosses, Oh that would be absurd, but a battle
that would be Yes. They go on to say that Fantasia is in fact bad Street, and according to most reporting, it's because there was some threatened legal action by Disney, because of course Fantasia is a very famous Disney film. Whats it got to do with the wrestler though, Like, yeah, it's just too don't know, It's like it's not like the fucking guy came
out dressed like a like a fucking hippo with a fucking two two. Let me ask you if if a guy came out dressed up like uh, let me see if he came out dressed up like George Bush and they called him Batman, do you think DC would have a problem with it? I do. I do think they'd have a problem with the name. But Fantasia is much more of a general term, not just owned by by Disney, isn't isn't like he Isn't Fantasia the name of the world and never earning story.
Isn't it like the Kingdom of Fantasia? I think? I think so? Yeah, So it's not like Fantasia is a is exclusive right, I don't think. I can't imagine. I mean, people have been saying that word since before that. So all right, if we're gonna get a Fantasia shutdown due to a intellectual property complaints, let's call him a Ratna Man instead and see what happens. Yeah, right, precisely like Spider Man, but we'll use different colors, so it'll work fine. There was some legal action on
that one too, as well, threatened I guess I don't know. I guess maybe it is just it's a Disney term, but I don't know. It's weird red leather on the US tax straps for those keeping track of such things. And here we go. Dusty says. The game plan was they had Fantasia waiting in the wings and we jump kind of warp speed to the
next match. They kept things really moving on this pay per view. Oh that was that was like kind of that that that period of WCW where you know, you just kind of it's funny how they keep things moving for a while and then all of a sudden, shit just stalls, right, just stops, and we get these idiotic long segments of talking to fill time. Well, there's a cage for the Simmons redmatch that probably had something to do
with it, the thunder Doom cage. So Ricky Morton making his way to the brain with his bright blue eyes and he's called pound for pound, were of the most outstanding athletes to compete in WCW. But he'll be out weighed by almost one hundred pounds here against big crazy ass Dan Spivey. This is a main event. This is a main event nowhere around the country. Doug Dilaner siding walking along the ramp like the protection professional that he is. He'd
imagine like he's the last person I want to have protect me. He's so like I cannot see him as being a threat to anybody. He is not go down with his ship. If anything, I feel like he would allow threats to happen to the people. But he's supposedly curing I just don't touch me. Don't touch me exactly. Yeah. If he was a cruise boat, go ahead, go ahead, he would go with the women and children. Oh yeah, I'm well before them. Actually, captains go first.
It's right, get the fuck out of the boat. Captains go first. I gotta go. I gotta go. What's the name of the actor and Titanic? That's ship head that was with Rose earlier. Who puts himself, Oh my god, yes, yes, but Billy, I love you. Fuck uh Billy. Oh, Billy Zane, Billy Zane, Billy Zane. He's Billy Zane. Look at me, Yes he is Billy Zane. I have a child. Oh, here he is. Here comes Dillinger, captain of a singing cruiser's cruise ship, and he comes up. He grabs someone
else's child and says like I have a child, I gotta go. I can't go down with a ship. I gotta go down with her at that accent, somehow takes a lot of it away from Odessa, Florida in the Chaps Dangerous Dan Spyby and oh god, I can't deal with this guy. I mean, I just feel like he is a movie monster. Look like long, He's got his long fucking head. Don't you know he's don't play a sound bite of Jay are talking about his football background. Okay, I
don't fucking tell nothing about him. I was really just wanted to get through this one college football at Southeast Conference University of Georgia, played in the National Football League for the New York Earlier. He wanted to dictate the pace. Told me earlier he wants to go back you playing football. No, Jarr,
that's you wanted to go back to calling football. It's right, hey, So that could be his personal commentator, I mean, okay, Jr. Talked to him earlier in the day in Saint Pete about his strategy against Rickey Morton got it. What do you think of May? What do you think of Dan? I didn't approach this one, Ricky Morton. Of course, you know I maintained control, maintain that pace. What do you think? Come on, okay, yes, I want to maintain that pace.
Can you please just say what you want to say about me and then I'll say it so you can say I said it. I want to say you play football. I mean, I swear to God it becomes I don't know what Dusty short circuits. He says, dictate the pace like more times in a row. I mean they say dictate the page no less than ten times? As dance bive he makes his way to the ring. I'm exaggerating,
but not by much. Yeah, let's dance five verse with Morton. Here Spivey goes off on him in the corner like he's Adrian Adonis or something. He looks like. Spivey looks like the love child of Nails and Zachary ty Bryan. Oh shit from Home Improvement. Jachary ty Brian, does that come with a crispy noodles? Look at him? How about we have a go
Home Improvement on this match? There? That would be great. Thrown to the floor, comes back in, peppering him with shots out again he goes and he's back in and then Morton keeps throwing and heaving and has actually leaped to connect with Spivey's head, but he's trying to play Captain mouse here.
Essentially, Morgan goes to the floor, lies in as lies into the ring as Spivey gives chase and he catches some of the way back in whip and Spivey stops him and hooks him and hits a big DDT as they were thirsting for in the opening match. So I guess DDT doesn't mean much, right, it's the free Birds big ballyhoed finisher or one second match. It's a transition move on Morton, fucking right, DT is a nothing move. Red boots and black trunks on Dan Spivey as he hits a whip in lariato falling
down that drops Morton for two. That a power bomb. I think you can hear Morton say touch me brother or something like that, or protect me rather protect me brother brother. It turns into a razor's edge that fucking kills him. But it's not a finish. No, Spivey's and allay his finishers not even covering, and Morton comes out firing, selling the back and falls down even though he showed some fire, which is some really nice selling from
Morton, he keeps shooting these shots Irish whip ducks. Morton goes for a crossbody block, He's caught in mid air and Spivey hits a Falloway slam. Spivy straight up drops the leg and I mean exactly like Hulkoby used to do it. Yep, Broller, I guess two. This guy, this guy used to wear he who used to have the shoulder length yellow hair and wear yellow and red and w W if I remind you, yeah, I didn't
like. After he wins this match, he fucking just takes out an electric razor and just shaves off the top of his head and he can starts poses you mentioned if like on the next w W pay per view seth Rawlins comes out and he is shaved the entire top part of his head to look like kept the side hair and just went with a must off. Someone making the choice to shave themselves bald right up the middle like that. That's a phenomenal thing to think about. It really is. Oh, I would love to
see that. I want I want male pattern baldness. That's what I want my hair style to me, I'm like, he's the guy's like twenty six, and he shaves his head to look like he's Hogan in his fifties, So Dusty says pay window for the first time on the show. Spivy into the arm Dragon Morton reverse whip. Spivy hits Stern him first, then of
the buckling Morton with a roll up for one two back up whip. Morton tries a drop kick, but Spivey holds on, so Morton hits the deck spive He misses an elbow drop and Morton runs into an awaiting awkward Dan Spivey. It runs headlong into him, but you know, Spivey comes out on top of what they intended. It didn't quite happen. Spivey then snatches him kind of in like a panic to recover on that blown spot and gives him a full on power bomb, just power bombs him like nothing and puts one
foot on his chest. One two, three, Jesus Christ, it's a mess. Three minutes and eleven seconds. Dan Spivey defeats Ricky Morton here at super Brawl one, and Morton kind of lifts the shoulder right after the mat hits the hand hits the mat for number three, So I don't know if he was disgruntled or what. That that never helps the finish. Dusty on the replaces the rib cage starts to shake and shimmy on Morton and yeah, I wouldn't doubt it. I'm sure that. I'm sure that the cage was
shaken and shimming. Speaking of that miss, he high at his backstage. Well, she's hit Tony Sharonni the Highway first, not yet, that's right, Oh my god, fucking that idiot Tom Zank. This stupid face like he looks like a complete goofball. He's he's not somebody who who's bought like his face does not go with his with his body, you know, he's in incredible shape. And then you got that dufest looking face of his. It's such a bozzo. Only ze man I care about is George the Hornen.
Okay, there we go. But he had recently just signed a one year contract extension, according to the Observer with WCW at one hundred fifty six thousand dollars a year. That's an exact kind of contract that Bill Watts comes in and says, what the fuck is this for a guy named Zank what the fuck? And he explains to people, does the Z's been out the last six weeks, but he wouldn't have missed this event for the world. He's in a suit, and Tony says in behalf of if you just show
up, I'll tell you what. If you show up, We'll give you a payday whatever. If Dusty hasn't eaten it already, Tony says on behalf of I'll tell you what. I'll give you one hundred grand if Dusty hasn't eaten that already. Terms have we done? That? A good thing? That's good stuff. That's a tlf classic, ap belongs on TLFX, Tony says in behalf of Turner Home Entertainment. Congratulations to Susan Moody of Kentucky on the Wrestling fun Line, where apparently you can vote if Missy Hyatt will go
to the men's dressing room tonight. Apparently I tried to look up I tried to look up a Susan Moody. I couldn't find someone who represented who resembled this from Kentucky, who resembled that remark. Yeah, not as easy to track down as the winner of the first House and in your house isn't no, no, not at all. But apparently a select caller won a prize.
Is an Overall sixty percent of the voting fans said yes, Missy Hyatt should go into the men's dressing room into an interview, of course, because they because they think like I think, and they want to see Missy Hyatt get aroused and start fucking, and they act like it's this total novelty. And then they replay when she yep, getting that as Larry's working on it and here fucking at ninety two degrees missus Missy says, I remember that,
but that's not fair. They treated me bad. I don't know what she was after, but it kind of worked in its own, really kitchy way. But I don't know man her delivery just I mean, it's it's so weird because she she very much wants to see Tom Zank naked. She makes that very apparent. But then you know she gets in there and you know she gets handsomed. It's it's very bizarre. What are they seeing when she went in there? One? Yeah, something like that. Yes, yes
they did, so they're like two when they bop they bopped her. They're having fun. With Missy as always, and they show it from Wrestle War and how she opens up and stand does the no holds barred routine with the tobacco hanging out of his mouth and no sharn. Tony's laughing and she goes, excuse me, what are you laughing about? This is nineteen ninety one. I'm a woman. I have a right to go into a dressing room anytime I want. They boo that. It's like, okay, well doesn't
doesn't. So does that mean a gentleman has the right to go into a women's locker room anytime he wants. She's you know, there was that. We talked about it when we did Wrestle War. There was this controversy in the media where a female reporter went into the mental locker room. There was a big deal. I remember, Tony says, I speak on behalf of all of ze men. He says, ze Man, well, right behind you. She asks, don't you have to take a shower or something?
And ze Man says, I might be Missy And she says, well, I'm going into the dressing room again. She's to crying it, but she's preparing to do it. Back in the ring, Gary Michael Compettite introduces wildfire Tommy Rich, who's here to contribute. They have this way for shape thing at the entrance. I don't know what that's for, but it's weird. It's not Tommy Rich. Isn't he that way? He has shaped like a wafer cookie? Is he not? What a painful? What a fucking idiot?
Uh fucking Jr. Says that Tommy Rich has great courage and great desire. I can say that again, Do tell Jr, He says. J Jarr says that Tommy Rich likes to use the luth As vertical body press. Not what I heard. I heard he likes to use the Jim Barnett vertical body press. Also, I also heard he likes to do the No, the Jim Barnet horizontal body press is what it is. Dusty says a lot of words, A word salad, the only salad ever in his mouth,
and c off out from Lithuania with a chain on his neck. Dusty says this okay. He says, yes, I talked to Tommy Rich later today, meaning he talked past tense to Tommy Rich later today, meaning the future. I sit here, I sit here, awaiting the onset of the problem. He does correct himself, but there was a moment where he actually lived in that in that where he had previously talked to Tommy Rich in the future keeping up. Yet it must have been what I heard when I wrote here
in my notes word salad from Dusty first salad. Yeah, that's gotta be it. That's gotta be it, because I mean, I just I rewound that one a few times because I was that's absolutely tremendous. So it's Nikita Coloff at his least efficacious, this very uninspired nine WW run against Tommy Rich. Dusty says that Nikita is back, and he tried to talk to him several time times, and he's on a mission to become the US champion and
from there the world's heavyweight champion. So Dusty really turning back the clock on the Nikita colof push. As he gets the book here in nineteen ninety one, Rich grabs the side headlock push and ducks and hits a cross body and Nikita for two. Rich with the most eighties hair imaginable here in the nineties. He looks like anachronism. He looks like a yeah, something from a museum lock up to the corner. Coal off goes off of those clubbing shots
and we get our squiggles on the lights from the on the camera. So that's always a welcome sight. Corner rich moves out of the way, roll up by Rich gets two. Richard the headlock broke the corner. Shoulders to the get not to mention not to mention two that that colof he has his black singlet, but there is a yellow and red on the back. Yes. I heard a rumor that hul Hogan who he was working at he's working a house show in Milwaukee at he was at the Bradley Center and he actually
left. He actually he's left and started running down of St. Petersburg. Is that right before someone stopped him? Yep, yep. He's like, brother, dude, what I felt like? Brother, He's on the road. Someone's trying to roll me up, Dude, I'm out. He's flying. I'm going to Saint Pete. Brother, I'm going home. I'm definitely one hundred twenty miles an hour down the freeway, like burning it up.
In this imagine, you know, he's up in fucking yeah, he's up in in in Milwaukee, and then all of a sudden, like you're driving down the highway and you see Hulkogan just in his wrestling gear. You know, he's like fucking yellow trunks and meepath the whole thing, fucking running down the fucking I'm on the side there. Well, it wouldn't have far to travel, because do you know where WWF was the night before this event in Saint Pete where Sundome in Tampa. Yeah, but they were in Wisconsin on
this night. They were in Wisconsin on that night. Yeah, the night before though, you better believe. And I bet that, uh that sundown show ran late. And I used to be the other thing they used to
do. In addition to try to get uh you know, exclusives in name, not in name, but in concept on buildings, they would also run the same city and when they could, the same building as WCW the night before, and uh, you know, have the show run to like two am, so the crew had no time to set up the production for the pay per view names. Oh that's spectacular. That was very much still in the playbook in nineteen ninety one. Refree Mike Atkins presiding over the contest Rich
with an Irish whip on the corner to corner running elbow to Nikita. Rich tries a splash in the corner, Buddy misses, then Coloff slams him, clubs him, snapmar in an elbow drop gets too Rich fires into the buck Riches fired into the buckle cornermount punches reversed Irish whip. Rich goes to the middle rope totally whips on a cross body like a moron, and Nikita finishes him off with a quick whip in a Russian sickle clothes line that gets the
one, two and the three. And he's a fan with uh but there's a fan wearing a Bart Simpson T shirt. Yes, just to solidify our time period. Oh man, you know everyone's fucking wearing Bart Simpson T shirts. People wanted Simpsons off the air because it was too no way, man, no way, not back back then that was fucking h prime prime cut Simpsons. I question, you know, not that, not that Nikia Kof is very good at this, but I was wondering, do do do these
guys? Do wrestlers take lessons with their when they when they're trying to learn a dialect. I know he didn't, he just uh he he just studied people speaking Russian on television, and he would actually have a he subscribed to, like communist magazines, to be sent to his house in his neighborhood so that people thought he was like legitimately Russian. He went way too wow,
because I'm always wandering. I mean, granted, some people who are just awful at it, but I'm wondering how far they're told to take it or to you know, we want you to learn how to do this accent or this dialect. Yeah, I think he came from a generation that was much more decide for yourself self determination on that. I don't think it was like or sit you down, we want you to do this, like nah, it was kind of just like you kind of at some point a booker may
have suggested it and he went hard with it. I'm trying to remember his whole story on that. Yeah, but that's the thing about you know, besides Vince, like this idea that they sat you down and created a gimmick for you. That that's kind of like nineties, like mid nineties, that starts really early to mid nineties. Guys that came up in the business seventies and the eighties and worked several territories, you know, they pretty much,
you know, figured it out at some point on their own. He had he had the tag team early in his career with Ivan Koloff, so we would have picked up how Colof used to the English Russian accent. Yeah, so that was that was it. He says he protected the character so much. This is in his book, Nikia Kolloffs, that I spoke with an accent whenever I was around his wife's family. Okay, it's normal. Wow, he's a Minnesota guy. You can hear him talking like Dark Side of
the Ring and stuff like the magnum Ta episode. The guy couldn't have a more and a dyne accentless voice, you know. I mean, he's got a little bit of that Minnesota touched to his voice, but not really. He says, I believe they needed to do that around the girls because children are so honest that if someone asked them about me, they would easily give me up. So he wasn't really Russian. He says, I'll never forget the day when I finally spoke around them without the accent. Tany asked Victoria,
what's wrong with daddy's voice? Everyone erupted in laughter. It's kind of weird. That's very bizarre. After my discussion with Rick, more than a year went by before I just sided to return to the ring. In nineteen ninety one, I began talking with the people at WCW and after a few weeks of negotiating, we came to an agreement, and Dusty Rhodes played a big part in my return. I had nothing against Rick or his offer, but a big part of my decision was based on my friendship at Dusty and
he was the one who finally persuaded me to return to wrestling. Things were going to be different, though the promotion wanted me to return as a heel. I hadn't worked here for several years. When I left wrestling, it was as a good guy that changed much to my surprise, had gone over well with the fans, especially after I stepped up to take Magnum's place with
Dusty. That turned to touch to the hearts of the fans. It had such an emotional impact with the fans at the time that Bill after my friend, who was seeing Reditor pro using Illustrated, did a cover story titled I Cry for Magnum TA So Yeah, I'm becoming a heel again. Was kind of a challenge he comes back at the Wrestle War pay per view in nineteen ninety one. We talked about this as part of the art of war games.
Yeah, and he wrestles. He presents Luger with a new title and then ends up turning on him and claims to be misunderstood and everything, and he ends up phasing out the accent after leaving the business. He says, it was like happening graces on your teeth for years, and when you finally get them off, no one notices. No one ever came up to me and said, hey, what happened to your accent? Which is pretty interesting,
I would I'm amazed at that actually too. He even as a story about how he went to when he was with the Crockett they went to was it Kuwait? They did a show somewhere in the Middle East, and there was a Russian ambassador to that Middle Eastern country who was there and who had heard about Nikita Koloff, this great Russian that was a huge wrestling star in the US, and the ambassador insisted on meeting with him to talk about it. The Soviet ambassador, Yes, here it is, Oh my god,
this is a great story. Kuwait. Yes, it was Kuwait and let's see, so he was prominently featured on on Billboard's word got out. A Russian who's been wrestling in the US and defeating almost everyone was coming to Kuwait. Upon my arrival, the Russian embassy contacted the promoter this is, of course, the local promoter, not Jim Crockett, and informed him that if a Russian athlete was in Kuwait, he had an obligation to stay at the
embassy as long as he was in the country. Oh my god, the promoter politely declines, suggested to be better all around if I remained with the other wrestlers. As much as it made sense to us, it had the opposite effect to the Soviet ambassador. The ambassador replied with indignation to the promoter's declining of his offer. His refusal and mine as it was inferred, was an insult to him. The Russian. You will have this man, this Russian wrestler. You will bring him to me. You will bring him.
He will he will bowled down before me, It's exactly, and he will stay. This guy is, this random guy is going to bow down before me, and he will declare himself to be the true Russian champion of the world. And then he will stay with me in my room. Oh, now I see what this is. And we will not sleep. We will just sit in chair. We will sit in We will just sit in chair. We will sit in chair, and we will drink vodka and we will just look at each other until the sun rises. And this is what true
Russian does. This collision in Korea. But it gets kind of tense, and he says they don't want to upset the emissary assigned to the country, So the promoters with the ambassador and it's at this point, according to call Off, the promoter actually explained that this guy isn't really a Russian. He's from Minnesota. What do you mean Minnesota? What is this Minnesota? What do you talk about like a co the Minnesota is like an American drink Minnesota?
What is this? Call mini? Is this like a mini mouse? Mini? We are you talking yet this Walt Disney? Are you referencing Walt Disney Mini mouse soda? Is that what this is? Some kind of marketing franchising bullshit? Yeah? Great question? Is that what this is some kind of marketing franchising bullshit? He says, wasn't this around the time the first McDonald's opened in Russia. Maybe are you talking? Is this new thing you're
bringing over from the United States? You make McDonald's and then you bring over Walt Disney? Are you doing? Is this what you're doing? Are you planning? Is this is this? Man? An insurrectionist could ask you a simple question. Is it Walt Disney? Push? Brother? Are you talking? Bolts me? Push in Russia? Ask him? Ask him? If ask him if they're gonna put the title on a Russian? Dude? Are you putting? Do do you have balls to put the title on Russian?
Huh? Is that what is going on here? Not? Do you have the balls? Do you have balls to put the title on a Russian? When the ambassador and the promoter Matt, the promoter explained that I wasn't really a Russian. The first the ambassador didn't believe him, But the more he insisted that Nikita Kolov was just to Givemick, the more incredulous the ambassador became. If he is indeed a Russian, he must stay at the embassy, voy demanded. And if he is not, as you say, see CCCP
on his headband in Singlet. The promoter did finally convince him that Nikita Kolov was just a character, but even then the ambassador did not like it. He took it as a tremendous personal insult, as well as one to his country. He demanded that any pictures of me with wrestling gear bearing the CCCP
initials be removed immediately. The promoter explained that he would do everything he could honor the ambassador's request, but he had spent tens of thousands of dollars promoting the arrival of his wrestlers, and without the posters, the tour would be a disaster. Not only he but the cold Weight would not only be embarrassed, but possibly could lose a lot of money. I will tell you something right now. Number one, do we know for sure this man not the
Russian? Because I think if we have not taken some kind of DNA taste, that we've taken DNA tast on this man, so we know he's not the Russian. Huh. I mean, if I know what the Russian paranoia like. They probably were even more convinced he was actually Russian when they told him he wasn't. Well, CIA say not Russian? Yeah, Russian? I see. So the American, the Americans saying that the Russian is not
the Russian. That sounds very American, is right? Is this this disinformation you always accuse us of, but actually using yourself, what is it? You know? I'd sense I sense a truckload bullshit, is what I'd sense. Oh, that's just the ring. So Collapse says that Jim Crockett had to hire someone to block out the CCCP on all pictures of the wait because I will tell you this. If this man not to Russian, if this man not Russian, and he'd bear CCCP insignia on this costume, I will
tell you this. I will talk to President of Russia and we will send nuclear bombs to America. You do not promote fake Russian with your fake sport and get away with it. I will find you destroyed nuclear weapons, pumped your American ass. I mean, hey, let's have the laugh that he doesn't laugh the whole time, and then he that's fucking creepy. Four minutes twenty seven seconds, keats Tommy rich here it's super brawl one and he's got an egg under his right eye. So I guess Richard, one of richards
shots got through yep, and and we get do we get a? Do we do we get a? Did we get an? We know? No? Nikita colof cock presentation at this one right now? Ivergot about that his cock stayed put in this match. I didn't Tommy Rich the key to call us hog. I look at it, I look at him. They see your Russian penis. So like question, what does P on end of CCCP actually stand for? It means is ahead cock penis? What is it? You say? Cock penis? That's an I had CCCP cc cock penis.
The first two sees mean nothing. The last see in the PM cock penis your CIA killed Kennedy, r CCP r c CCP killed the many people, many women get pummeled by CCCP. I pummel whom I would that? Why would he volunteer that? At that moment? Not as buttoned up as we'd like to thank the KGB. First, I've think of my CCCP and my pommel women with it, and they come back for more. My big Russian
cock. All right, there's the memoir title, My Big Russian Cock and a Russian Ambassador A Story of a Russians, A life of ambassador ship, My Big Russian Cock, A life of ambassador ship. They get a picture of him like shaking like the Kuwaiti President's hand of whatever, and you know me, I would then insist that the book not make a single reference to his cock. Yes, never gets around me explaining why this is the title of the book talks about it. Oh fuck, like picture picture of the
movie You've got mail with Tom and Meg Ryan. I would want to call that movie French toasts in the fireplace and never explain it. We're calling something like The Rough in the Wild. That's good. Yes, I like one that's not a head scratch. It just gets the totally false impression Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan in because sometimes love is in unexpected mailboxes. The Rough and the Wild and the Wild were sitting there drink Coming Soon, drinking coffee.
I'm like the village, you know, The Rough and the Wild rated acts Tom Hanks, Meg Ryan, The Rough and the Wild Coming Soon. I think I just found a new genre. You've that brilliant Home Alone parody years ago, the trailer, you know, but instead of like trying to edit the trailer together and going through all that work to make it look like it's a horror movie, what you do is you take the actual original trailer, and you just put a menacing voice over on it, but not to the
very very end, my goodness. But the whole thing I can watch. He's watching the trailer as it's presented, and at the very end, it's like the trailer for like Pleasantville. At the end, it's like ice Blood, a story, a story of medieval conquest. William H. Macy and the fifties. Where's that guy? Is he alive? Did he die? He's alive. He's alive. Money? Did he ever do something? Creepy? Am? I not supposed to like him? Why do I feel like he did something? He didn't? But U his wife? His wife was
part of that that college scandal. Yeah yeah, yeah, years back. I don't think she was as bad as the full house woman whatever her name is. Lori Laughlin's poster child for it for sure. Yeah yeah, well you know yeah, And they were all part of that Get your daughter. I don't know why I'm toxic. I don't really want to go to college, but I want people to pay. I want other people to pay for
my college experience, kind of a layouts. I don't want to go, but I want people to pay for it anyway, in case I decide I do want to go. I don't think I want to college at all, and then she gets into Harvard. But what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna have people. I'm gonna pay people. I make so much money as an influencer. I'm gonna pay people to take my classes for me. It's fine, and you know, so I will be like valedictorian. But I'm not gonna go to class, and why bother? I do want to go for
the football games. I go to the football games because I usually get late afterwards exactly like, who's fucking who about that shit? It's college football games? Getting back. Everyone gets plasted, so everyone has plausible deniability about the absolutely right fucking debauchery that goes on afterwards. I really wasn't expecting to get fucked. But WHOA, You're talking a stadium of eight thousand co eds and hooded sweatshirts. You don't think it's going down horny co eds? All right,
there's not one of them that isn't horny. I mean, you're talking sixty thousand people with starry night van Go posters on their wall, getting absolutely dared out. I don't know what the fuck you want, I'm going to say beyond that, but that's where I'm gonna leave it. Fucking just roughest, fucking sex with these college students afterwards, especially if they win, they
win the game. Oh man, that's even more like your zone. It's a danger zone, like standing behind like Pat McAfee on the college game day. No, it's like fucking spring break every Saturday. Oh, exactly, pounding away, pounding, the slapping of flesh on flesh. Oh, for those who need a little more. For those who are audio visual learners, how does that sound again? Not the sound of the slapping the voice was It sounds like a twenty six to seven win? Am I right? It
sounds like the spread on that one football. Oh my god, buddy, did you take a big drag on the body before we got it? She's hunger, she's their steep, buddy. She reached out on she snapped Anyboddy, take a look. For some reason, it's like a hockey player. It's this awesome guy. I don't know. I've see him the reels. I don't know who he is. He does like this, like, yeah, he's just looking hilarious. He says that voice like a partying like Jock Moron. Like, oh, all right, anyway, Jared says, his
colleague Tony Shivanni is standing by with a very interesting interview. Truly one of the most flamboyant wrestlers you'll ever see. Johnny be Bad is making his WCW debut appearance here. Yes, he is on the Rampa. Of course, you've told the story many times. Johnny be a Bad, a brainchild of Dusty Rhodes. They had hired Mark Merrow to come in with his limited wrestling experiences boxing background, and she and Dusty looks a him of the monitors.
Does he look like Johnny? Does he look a little Richard to you? Of course you have to say yes. He said he look a little Richard, Daddy, you know what I'm talking about, Little Richard. I think he looked a little your baby. We're going with it. I think we're gonna make him little Richard Eddy. That's the end of it for him. And he's with Teddy Long in the early days here. Yes, yellow dew Rag And they said, we've heard a lot about this guy, and Dusty
says he's flatboyant. Theodore along quite a purveyor of great wrestlers. And this guy has flamboyant or flamboyne in the word for it. Brother, I mean he rock and rolled through and through. He looks putty to me, reminds me of myself to a little bit. How with a little flamboyne. I like to hear him talk. I can't wait to hear this day. Brother. He looks out a bold magazine. Look at him. It's questing deepit. He's got a left hand like a rocket dog. The Ebbony Einstein,
Theodore r A Long. They have found another sham. I'm in the wrestling world of life here, the wrestling world of life. The wrestling world of life, is what he said, Dusty Rubinhoff on Jim there. Yeah. Uh, the the Ebony Einstein. So yeah, yeah, no, not a problem, not a problem at all, except tons of problems. You can't just be the Einstein of wrestling. I mean also flamboyant. Flamboyant meaning
oh yeah, well he's thinking. When he was like you know, when you see him against Graham in New York and the late seventies, and he had the big spark le's on and everything in those wild outfits, and I was flamboyant all right, because when he first said it, he reminds me of me. I'm like thinking, what the dusty business out doing bunk house matches, and I think, well, actually, he also would come out
on TBS with full mink coats on and shit like that. I mean, I guess, but like you know, it's yeah, I have I have issues with the way that they portrayed Johnny me bad as the as the you know, the evil, the bad the gay bad guy. I mean, it's weird. Was he a heel? I mean he was for a while, I mean, and they played it up as being I remember, I remember what was it? Maybe how will we having ninety one? Sure? Maybe where it was very clearly he was a bad guy because he was gay.
Yeah, well clearly there's like to heal here with Teddy. But it's anytime I think I have a WCW and I'm forgetting when he's a baby face, I always think of, right, I always think of after that, like ninety one. After ninety one, I feel like they made him baby face and he was baby face for the rest of the run. Yeah. Interesting, So that I guess wasn't the initial idea, says Teddy. Teddy says he's here for two things, to make sure a Ron Simmons gets taken
out tonight number two. Pn News has been talking about how he's the rap master while I'm the godfather of soul. I don't know why they're talking about pan News. He's nowhere to be found in this show. I don't I don't know why we ever need to talk about fucking that's true. To be Bad says po News is a big, old, ugly guy. It's going to be a blessing to teach you a lesson. So I guess that's going to be his first program. The makeup is caked on Mark Marrow's face caked.
Oh, I know, I know it's Yeah, it's almost like his face is really that's how much he's got on, right, I mean, he's got like fucking Queen Elizabeth the first makeup you know. Daddy says, be a Bad's he's a real man. Yeah, and he's gonna be yeah and get belong for all the flaggirls. Find out you can look, sure can't touch and tells Bad he loves him, and tells Tony not to put his hands on him, and Bad says, I'm not I'm so pretty. I should have been born a little girl. He says, I'm a bad
man. He says twice. Yeah. He even tries to have an accent. He kind of tries to have a little bit of job talk to him. That's I don't appreciate. I don't know why everybody, I know Dusty's booking, but not everybody has to jive talk, right. Everyone's trying to do some version of that. Jr. Says he's a bad man and does. He says he took flamboyance a little bit over the line, and he didn't look like he's supposed to look. But he's got a hard left hand
and if he if he does, he's got to be a man. A man has a hard left hand, I've according to Dusty Rose, and he's looking forward to him. In versus PN News, Dusty smacking his lips big time. There h This is where they got at the beginning for gold Dust. Here Dusty's own booking on the same show as yeah right, yeah exactly, so now out next from Austin, Texas. This is the natural Dustin
Rhodes and sadly not the this is the legendary Dustin Rhodes. By the way, let's not forget that he's legendary now no no, no, no, back in im a last last week with eight legendary dust I do. I'm I'm disappointed that he doesn't have the natural theme yet he's a natural natural oh post slam jam, yeah, yep, uh god, this is the push. This is Dusty just you know, bald faced league pushing his son,
seeing how far he can take him. And I heard something on Conrad's podcast about how there was talk about versus Dustin at WrestleMania nine, and then Hogan balked at working with him and he went to what. I was like, what the fight? I had never heard that one before, but Tony was nodding along with it. I was like, what the fuck really with Dustin and Wrestlemanian nine? Nine? Yeah, that's what he said. Nine. Maybe he meant eight or maybe he said eight. And I heard nins nowhere
maybe seven. He's nowhere near the fucking company this time, not at all, but maybe they made a play to bring him in. You know, they would get him in ninety five. So yeah, that's true. They had enough. Vincel loved nothing more that would make a hire that fucked with Dusty. I think we've proven that. Yeah, right right, So yeah, there it is Dustin as the natural starting to make in roads here with his dad holding the book, leather jacket USA flag on it for the Natural,
some sparklers on both sides of the ramp for him. Here's this. Dustin had a big meeting this morning with the York Foundation. Oh, they were trying to recruit him quite heavily. I wonder who took the lead in those negotiations, boss, Yeah, right, ah. They were playing up that the York Foundation was interested in recruiting Dustin Rhodes. And look this is where Dustin meets Marlena. You know she's there is Alexandra Yorke. Of course,
Terry Boatwright. She was also the makeup artist for WCW, so she probably put all that cake on Johnny b Bad's face earlier in the night. Yeah, maybe some more too. And they played it up big in the weeks leading into this show that they were making entreaties to have her come in. And on an episode of I Think It's pro may have aired on Worldwide as well, Dustin plants a big kiss on Alexander Yorke when she approaches Oh, yepp. So this is like we're seeing the gold as Marlena relationship happen
in real time, and wow, that's kind of crazy. It is crazy because you think about how Dusty was sort of like cold to the idea and him being not necessarily over the moon about Dustin and Marlena getting together was part of the reason for that years long distance between Dustin and his father and at a coincide over them going to WWF. It's wild to think that it happened
under Dusty's watching WCW. You know that he had the book. I think this relationship Foster, you think you think do you think Dusty either fucked or wanted to fuck Marlena? That's a good question, baby Dollar style. Yeah. And then when she wasn't interested, he just acted like she was like the biggest piece of shot in the world. I don't know, and he's like, fucking yeah, possible. But here's Alexander Yorke trying to woo Dustin
Rhodes into the York Foundation ahead of Super Bowl won. Of course, eventually she'd succeed, but on this night, Dustin rejects her with a big, long kiss that leaves her a week at the knees. No, here we go. Now, Alexander's got the she got the micro fuck, mister Rose, this is your very last opportunity to become a member of the York Foundation. How hold in my hand a contract that is more lucrative than any any
professional athlete has ever seen. I want you to take it, sign it, and when you do, you'll be a member of the most exclusive, prestigious foundation in all of wrestlings. Do you realize how hard it is to become a member of my foundation? Sign it and sign it now, mister Rhoades, Well, my goodness, there's a contract. He's taking the contract of the York Foundation, right on the verge of Super Bowl fust lunch the
contract. I saw it right up, mister Rouch, not going if only, if only he didn't tear up the pre nup as well, I know, right, Okay. Dusty says in commentary that he had the meeting, but he did meet up with his dad later on, and so Dad, I don't want to do this to myself. So Dusty says he's proud of him for rejecting the advances. Here we go, Here we go, yep, and here we get that that uh Dallas rip off theme. That's right, works for me. It's rather lovely. It's like it almost at the
time, sounds like that that Christmas song there. Yeah, uh, the fun I can't think of the name of it. Do they know it's Christmas time at all? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Feed the world Yep, it's a good call. So Gary Michael Copett introduces the newly elected Board of Directors of the York Foundation for the first quarter of nineteen ninety one. He says, I guess that's quite a foundation. They elect a new board every quarter. That's not typically how it works. That's how it works in fake
sports. But it's four stiffs and suits standing out there. They're supposed to be the board of directors. They're just you know, nobodies. No one knows who they are. And then the executive director of the York Foundation, Alexandra She walks along with the head of Security, mister Hughes and her computer. Of course, she's got it folded in her arms, clutching it. And Terry Taylor, the computerized man of the nineteen nineties. What a gimmick.
Oh my god. They can't fucking I can't with his fucking Terrence Taylor. This is after last time we were with you, we talked about how Dusty unceremonistly fired Terry Taylor in nineteen eighty eight for imitating him in the locker room. Yeah, so we got him back here. Just Jr. Says
Dustin is perfected the use of the bulldog headlock. They look over the computer with that thing with that thin screen that they used to have, and Dustin Dusty says, told me this morning, Dad, I don't know anything about a computer. I just know what you taught me. Dusty didn't tell you, son that a computer took your place, didn't I didn't tell him that
that that I computa took his job. There's parts of the you can find w CBTV broadcast that refer to this as a computer match or a computerized match. God, and I don't know what to say about that. What is it? What is it a software match? I would Dustin Dusty want to associate them with Dallas when moving the Crocket office to Dallas was the fucking beginning of the end, right, I don't know what the computerized match is.
I mean, you know, for those who don't know, haven't heard us talk about this, You go to ringside you look at this computer that Alexandre York has, and it's supposed to be giving the guys the best next move
to do based on it. I just don't understand how how a computer that's small, because it's basically just like a weird old school like word processor, And I don't understand how she like, how this small fucking thing in nineteen ninety one running off this modeling right, has enough fucking storage and and like uh like it's ram and speed or whatever to be able to do anything that that complicated without being on the internet. No less right, no Wi Fi
back then, not even close. No, it's all on prem Yeah, ECC, we're going in the Prodigy days. Oh Jesus So Dustin Rhodes versus Terry Taylor here, lock up Dustin and the magnum Ta boots that tells you where his father sees him being positioned. Waste lock They scrambled. Dustin gets some escape points on that early exchange, and Taylor consults the computer about what to do next. Dusty says the thing a computer can't tell you what's in
your heart, and that's Dustin Rhodes, the natural nat true natrue. Dusty definitely getting anxieties about the computer rage, that's for sure. Oh you know, you know, damn well that that that that that he was just petrified of of, you know once once the fucking internet came about. He's just totally horrified, totally. Taylor's knocked down, covered for a one, and
walked back over to the computer for more consultation. Dusty says, the computer says one offensive move and how you need to get your breath and get the next one. Uh, that seems to be the pace here. Duke's up. Dusty says, he stopped intimidating that big old boy. Oh, Dusty says, he stopped intimidating that big old boy Dustin when Dustin was only twelve. I don't know what that's supposed to be a reference to, But okay,
what are you beating him? And then he's always see it's there with the von Erics, it's there with the funks, it's there with Dusty. My dad used to beat me. Therefore head fit, he had daddy, I fit. My daddy beat me baby for my I'm gonna beat you because that's just the way things are done. That's the way that people, that's the way that children grow up, they get beaten by that parents and they
understand the respect that happened. Baby. That's the way it is. If you don't physically abuse the people you love, you don't get their respect. Right, that's right. Taylor with a hip toss off the ropes dust and kicks off from his back and hits an arm drag of his own, and Dusty says, we preached that for a long time. There doing that. That series of moves to the rope's right hand blocked and Taylor backs off and gets another one, gets another reading from the ringside computer. Here's this is
here's here's some JR. Commenting on about Alexander York and her computer. Miss Shork the first person to actively used computers and preparing a wrestler for a professional wrestling match. If she's done it very successfully. Of course. The funny thing is after this, using a computer to prepare wrestlers for the outcomes of their matches would become commonplace later in the decade. Yeah, right, off the success, and you know, I would say most people would be right.
It would be it would be using the computer to uh to to to help prepare the wrestlers for their for the for who was winning the match. It's funny a Taylor has to keep going back to the computer because what the computer is telling them to do is not working. You might that you might want to take a hint, Terrence and just stop looking at the fucking thing because you getting your eye. I know, I don't. I don't know if the computer, if if the computations or whatever, it doesn't compute computing
properly, and I don't think it's computing properly. I mean if I was Alexander, New York and I was there with a word processor at ringside that actually was functioning, I'd have some fun. I just write balls on it. See what he right? Can I see your cock? It's a lock up, lock up on a hammer lock in a back elbow lands, Jared says, a York first to use computers like he just played for us.
To the corner right hand of the face and Dustin starts firing back. Dusty says, Dustin learned how to throw right hands from his uncle Dick Murdoch. Whooping hip yep, whooping hip toss. Taylor comes up and lunges for the batic elbow, but Dustin awkwardly snatches him and guides him down to the canvas. Taylor slams out of the arm drag missus an elbow drop. Back to the arm drag goes Dustin Rhodes. They talk about how stoic mister Hughes is
at ringside. Taylor gets his foot on the rope and his back to York, and Jared says, they may have over the load of that computer. Maybe they's just display everything in tableau so we can better understand it. Yeah. Taylor comes in to U, goes into the gut. Dustin tries to suplex it's blocked. He tries to suplex Dustin duston answers with one of his own, very nice at vertical soup player for two. Tackled by Dustin headlock push off Dustin Duck's leap, He ducks leap frog, losing his footing on
the ropes. Like Barry Windham, here is Dustin and so in that frenzy, he misses the cross body and ends up rolling under the ropes to the ramp, which is a classic Barry Windham spot. Taylor goes out after him, hot shot across the top rope. Fans are standing in pumping fists at the abuse of dustin roads. Here Jr. Starts talking about steel cables encased by rubber like normal everyday talk. Taylor takes a breather, which Dusty says
was designed by that computer. That's right. Take a look at Terry Taylor over here taking a little breather. Well, that breath was designed by that computer to take that spot to take a breath. But I don't believe it. Take it, and he got a man down. You need to go for It's read he gonna go for it. Taylor stands on the bottom. I don't believe in taking it. I don't believe in taking it. Put a I come put a suggested powder than daddy. Motherfucker fuck it. Another
wonderful point from Dusty Tailor kind of stands on the time. If I'm not gonna have com put it, tell me like gotta go take a fucking leak. You know what. I'm fan, daddy, That's what I'm talking about. When are they gonna start taking what are they gonna start doing all these things, baby, that we can't even do nothing for a felt. We're gonna take advantage of the opportunity that we have with the computer to take advantage
Daddy, and take advantage of all the things around up. Baby. Dusty was definitely one of those guys before he passed, of course, who would always make remarks about how no one knows how to get around anymore without GPS. But in my day we have GPS, Daddy, my GPF in my brain. Baby, I know every in and out of way you do, Yeah, you do. I know all the in and out Baby. I've been to all of them around the country. Baby, I know that they
all, Daddy. They've been double double double, double, triple triple. Get me a thing done, Daddy. Did they have a secret menu? Threat? Baby? They got about three? I had animal style. You know what I'm saying. That's that ship. Animal style a bitch. It's right with onions is what it means. By the way, if you're wondering, grilled onions is what? Oh what ship? That's what it is. The grilled onions and like extra sauce. I think, oh, do they lay it on a little thick Yeah, I think they lay it on.
I think that's what it is. It's extra sauce and the grilled onions instead of the raw onions or about the SmackDown onions it's wondering. I'm actually more concerned about the two oh five live onions, the two OHI five Live brand of entertainment. Taylor, it's so funny, man, when they had they first started as a place to, you know, to put their high flyers that they were hiring to keep away from others, and then they started to
do storylines. They put the belt on Enzo and they were doing like segments. It's like, what are you guys doing? God, it's just such a fucking joke. So Taylor stands in the bottom rope and Suplex is dusting in from the rampway drops it knee on him and gets two dust and throws to the gut, but Tailer stays on him with a big slam. With a computerized game plan, gets to the little rope and leaps into Dustin's boot, who lifts a boot on the way down. Goes Taylor Jaris's tailors.
His father is a physician but not a dentist, so he's not gonna be able to fix that damage. Dustin blocks and throws Dusty's wooing as he goes along. Weapon a high backdrop, a whip and bam, a flying clothesline and Taylor turns and lands with his face on the mat. Doesn't take a clean bump on that one at all, not at all, not at all. Irish whipping a high inverted atomic drop and tailor falls backwards on a cover only gets one though, was a. Taylor gets his foot on the rope
dust and then hits his bulldog, and Taylor sells it beautifully. York gets up on the apron, distracts the referee as dust and slaps the mat looking for the count Nick Patrick. In a couple of years, she'd fucking take her fucking top off to distract the referee. It's absolutely true. She would do it on shotgun. I mean, is Nick Patrick presiding here and that bode well for a clean finish? It never does. There's never He's such it. As soon as I see, you know, I'm just like,
oh, what we're going to do? Now? What is he gonna do? Now? You know That's that's always the case. Whenever I see that stupid face and that and that fucking that idiotic hair of his, I'm like, where, you know, what the fuck is going to happen? Now? What's gonna be ruined? Think of his face? Give his face and
hair and no Kenny powers, motherfucker. I know exactly. That's what I was gonna say, exactly, just standing there, useless, taller than all the wrestlers, useless, he's so useless, gets up on the fucking fraud, just just a fucking loser. And when they do do a when they do do a Nickpatrick biopic, it'll be Danny McBride playing fucking Nickpatrick. For sure, that would be. It turned out it wasn't because Sting wasn't Tan. So York is on the apron, distracts the ref is, Dustin is
slapping the three. Nick Patrick, of course, is the one distracted. Mister Hughes gets up on the apron dust It goes over arguing with York now, and that wouldn't be the last time these two would argue. Taylor blindsides him and Dustin answers with some right hands, goes off on him. Dustin hits the ropes, Hughes grabs him from the apron while the ref is distracted. Still, Taylor digs into Dustin from that advantage point hard for you to
restrain yourself, isn't a dream? Jr. Says he watched his injustice done to his boy, Dusty. Dusty says, I don't like this at all. I know you hired me here. I know I've been hired here to do this announcing thing. But it's hard for me to sit here and watch this really nice job from Dusty because he doesn't actually get involved. But he yeah, but he sells it anyway, Like Taz does a terrific job with that. When his son wrestles in a w It's like he doesn't not acknowledge
it because that would be impossibly stupid. But he right, you know, but he kind of like lets the fact that he's got to stay professional, like just burn right below the surface. He doesn't go over the top with it, but he does a good job of pretending he's holding a lot In and Hughes. Hughes then gets a black glove on and misses the right hand and hits Taylor by mistake to a big pop. Then Dustin Rhodes knocks down mister Hughes and then and then covers Taylor. And when he when Dustin attacks
mister Hughes, Dusty breaks out and his nail him. All right, all right, you know he and it's one two, and it's three and Dustin Rhodes defeats Tarn Taylor eight minutes five seconds here at super Brawl one. Well on his way now is the natural and that's that. I think dust he did a nice job on color rooting his son on here. Yeah, I think it's all right. I'll think it was bad Dustin. He was fine.
Bounces immediately down the side of the ramp. Dusty says, I know what they can do with that computer, and I can't say it on the air. Jared says, they always tell you never to work with children or animals. But Big Josh, and I'm thinking, where is this going. Oh my god, I don't seriously has got two pet bears. Oh my god, so much? Here here, here's here, I got, I got all. We talk about Larry's Abisco having a bow out, but then
here's them talking about the fucking bears of Big Josh. I see that anytime you have a stand in, anytime you have a guy like black Bart that's hungry, you're gonna see a guy really go for it all. But Black Bart's gonna be up on the gun. But I want to see these bears. I've never seen two live bears come the wrestling mat it's not like a rap gripe two Live Bears. I hope to keep on that side of the ring. That was good, Jim, I was going there. He beat
me to it. Yeah, does. Dusty doesn't know what the fuck you're talking about, but it's fine. He doesn't what I mean? Rap group? Daddy? What are you talking about? Dady? You're talking about about Willie Nelson? Are you talking about bullshit? Because there's only two choices, that's right, Dad, two things only WILLI nothing music and there's nothing else.
David allen Coe somebody like that. So what's the story here. Matt Bourne sat down with our video a long time ago, late nineties I think this was recorded and reflects on how Dusty brought Big Josh to him and why uh he strongly suspects Dusty hired him in wc W in the first place, Dusty who was the booker for Jim Crockett for a while, and and uh, I went down to talk to Dusty a couple times when I was for
Crockett, but I guess Crockett bucked it and it wouldn't hire me. So when he took over the book for wc W, I was told, come on down when he when he's taken over the office. So I was down there and he hired me right away, you know, and I and I and he told me Dustin, his son was just starting in Texas, and we became friends, and I golfing with dust and then you know, he was just learning the business and stuff. And when he hired me, A Dusty told me, he, sister, it's not because you helped dust it
out so much Texas. That's it. But I'm gonna hire What he said that I knew it was because hey, he were good to my son here, and hey, you know what I would repay. But I was the first one that Dusty hired, a W c W. And he asked me Magnu and Ta was his assistant, and he asked me, because would you have a problem changing your name? I said, I want the job. You know, I needed a break. I wanted a break. I was getting very frustrated in my career. I just want to break her it was.
I said, no, I don't have a problem. So I went back to my hotel room and he saw I get back to you by sc I mean a couple of hours later he called me and he told me big Josh told me, you know, the look he was looking at. So I went back to Charlotte and Wendy and gross involved with She got me my whole outfit and I made my pants and him them at the thing and got the flannel shirts, got the sleeves off. Pretty basic, you know, pretty easy gimmick to to get made up for us. So I went down
there to the TV taking up to start putting my stuff on. Had the axe handle. I looked, I said, here I am. He went, I looked apart, you know, I looked like a guy came out of the woods. So that was the start of Big Josh. And it was fun to do Big Josh. You kind of got kind of boring, you know, there is because I had never been anything other than Matt Bourne and I always had a wrestling background. And his idea was big Josh really don't know how to wrestle. He used to big tough guy, strong guy,
come out of the woods. So, you know, so I had to do some other one the doc stuff, which was fun and good for me to do. That make its little transition and away from wrestling, and like I did a little long rule stand on the guy's belly and running place and you know, different stuff their story because he helped us. All right, Dustin out suddenly the phone's ringing. That sounds like Dustin. Very very talented guy was Matt Born. But this is pretty Doink, of course.
And this was I remember, you know, when I mentioned this before, you know, years ago, for the first time whenever, whenever I that that fucking p WI nineteen ninety two Year and Review issue. And they always talked about who was who h you know, they had a thing about you know, what someone who someone was known as at the beginning of the year, and who they were known at if they changed promotions or changed characters,
they'll let you know who they were at the end of the year. And I remember seeing that Big Josh was the name of a guy at the beginning of ninety two, I think end of ninety two, he was known as Doink the clown Wow. And I remember being like, I don't remember. That's fascinating they did. They did do that stuff, like because they said, like, you know, at the beginning of the year, Tatanka was known as Chris Chavis. At the end of the year he was Tatanka and
so on and so forth. Yeah, it was a really cool little thing that they did, and they listened a bunch of wrestlers who who you know, changed changed their name or changed characters or whatever. It's interesting. And I was like, I know, I know who doink is. They're always asking who is this guy who's doing I know who he is. He's big Josh. A good question for appisode, because you know they would they would embrace with both hands whatever story the company was telling about who the guy was.
It's not like they would say, Nikita Kolof isn't Russian. Yeah, So, I don't know. It's kind of interesting. I wonder if they only did that in certain cases or not. It's kind of a a brilliant thing for the Aptormag's to do back then. Fascinating it was. I mean it was for the year end issue only sure. I don't know if they did it in other years either, to be honest, but I know it was, like, you know, just a special thing for the for the for the end of the year. Because if they're a K five, they
should be embracing the origin story of it, shouldn't. I'm not saying they should be like as in making a judgment. I'm saying you would think that they would just embrace the origin story of the doint character and try to have fun with but maybe maybe, maybe, maybe maybe maybe Big Josh is this is this is this failed wrestler and so he needed work and so he got a job as a clown. You know, maybe that's the story. I got a question for you. Was there a Big Josh Galube? They're not
in America? What but there was one? Do you want it? Of course I want it? There a Christmas show coming up? Oh god, there was like it was like it might have been. There were let me see here, there were there were I'm trying to think, uh if they were just there were some you know, you know, UK based ones, but then there were some like uh, I don't know, yeah, UK he was a UK exclusive. I've spent quite a long time looking at these
action figures. There's something about these total afterthought wrestlers that somehow end up in this situation. They come along at the right time to get an action figure made. You know, yep, yep, I'm completely totally kind I mean, yeah, like this is I mean that was kind of a lot of the hasbros too, like Repo Man, not only gets a Hasbro, but gets a Hasbro that's released well after he was a mainstay on the roster. Sure, yeah, by the time they got it out, you know.
I mean, I think this is like this Big Josh figure is on the level like if they did a Big Bully Busick toy. I mean, it's like that. The totally you are totally totally and the fact that it wasn't, like you said, at least at the United States is another thing that makes it luring as fuck. I mean, who bought this? Who got
this for Christmas? Like? I want to hear from somebody who innocently bought the Big Josh toy, not knowing that it was going to be like this fucking globe that no one had I know, I know, or wanted for that matter. I think you got probably do you think Matt Bourne got properly renumerated for sales of this action figure? Actually, from what I've been told, actually that a lot of these figures, when people bought them, it
came up with the whole Coogan. I thought it was great. I remember they went down and they took photos from every angle, you know, to make the dolls and stuff. So it resembles you the best that they can do the time, and it was great. I remember it was. You know, I never saw it on the shelves. But one of the guys from the company was overseas. I guess they sold the big Josh DAWs. They never sold them the States. They sold them overseas, and I was
never seen any residuals from him. But then all of a sudden, he brings me one back from overseas, says they're selling them. So I got I had to contact the obvious. They were given all of the residuals from all the money. They were given it to the select few like Luger staying and they so they were getting my money. So I had to call them and stay on top of it to get my money. I ended up getting it, but I didn't get it till after I was already with WWF.
You know. They they finally sent me a check, but you know, I mean it was it was a meager check, but who knows what it should have been, but who was you know, six seven thousand dollars,
But I took it. Here you go. It wasn't helping though. It went to Sting and Lugar apparently brother, they've got exactly they I'm yeah, I know, I know you're looking at I'm down you know, I'm down the rabbit hole at this this wrestling figure database and looking at you know, First of all, obviously they had Big Josh Dustin Rhodes wow uh and the
Freebirds as UK exclusive releases, plus variations on Staying and Luger. But then I'm looking here too, there was maybe an unreleased Diamond stud Shut the fuck up. Shut. I don't know if this is legit, but this, I mean here, I'm gonna I'm gonna send you the link here. I'm looking at it right now. Oh you are, okay, I mean, and then and then then an unreleased PN News because that's what we fucking I've
seen these, yeah before before. Then down below like there, it looks like there are galubes that they were going to do that are unreleased globes that had movement, that had joints. Look at these? Do you see that in the bottom Yeah, on the same page. I am no, but
I'm looking at I think what you're talking about. Oh my god, Jesus, like we could look look at if you find the Rick Flair one his fucking the veins in his arms are just horrifying, god like and again like like you can tell if they were meant to move and be more like yeah, yep, yep, wow, what could have been? What could have been? Whatever will be? You know, reality of Oh they had an
unreleased Ricky Morton. I know, I'm looking at the packaging and it's really making me like, oh, I kind of wish I had bought that ring. I don't. I don't even real they had a ring actually, when I was pretty sweet with a cage with that with a beautiful WWE style cage. Do you have to do? You have to talk about this? Did you have the w W trading cards from this area trading cards? I might have had a pack. I feel like I can picture my mind a pack
of trading cards that I had, had a box of them. I don't know why they were out on the shelves where I was, but there weren't even w WF cards. Man, But I had a million of these motherfuckers lying around. Let me see how much they go for now, Yeah, okay, nine cents doesn't mean much. Oh my god, these packs. I used to rip this. Most of what I knew about WCW We're from
these cards. Honestly. Sure. I used to watch the television kind of sparingly, and I was it kind of served the same function that the video games did for me, you know, like introduced me to the wrestlers. Yep, yep, you know before I watched the TV or actually gotten I remember watched the TV. There's one of Tommy Rich there if you remember.
I take a second to come across, but I remember, I remember the I remember their Oh god, the first time I saw these figures, I had no idea that there were WW fixtures figures, but I remember I was a, you know, a newer fan, and I was very obsessed with all the hasbros. And I remember being in a pharmacy. It was a right Aid pharmacist in Milford, New Hampshire, and I'm in there and then all of a sudden, because you know, when you are a wrestling fan,
all you want are the figures you can't have. And at the time, in early nineteen ninety two, there was no Rick Flair WW action figure, there was no Sid Justice w W E Action figure. But lo and behold, I'm at this fucking right Aid and there are the WCW glubes and I see that They're just the right size. And I make my mom get me flair and sid right on the spot, right on the spot. Fucking
Butcher Reid had a fucking globe. Sure, did I remember the bron Sympton Ye, this long sneakers Yep. And in the same position as uh, you know Rick Rude, the Rick Rude has bro the bicep flex and the other one I'm close to the body. Pilman. I made Pilman, I meane Pilman like a uh. You know I would also use I would so with the w c W belts because everyone every character came with the belt right
just about and yeah, and so I would. I would use those as my secondary belts totally, as I'm sure anyone would and so yeah and so I. But then I then it get to the point where I had more belts than I had, you know, I was like, well, what
other championships can I use? And so I started having these other like A Junior Heavyweight Championships and US Championships and all these other other belts, and yeah, I used to uh, I used to take a gold you know, you know those pens, they're they're there, they have painted them and so could you shake it up. I used to take a gold pen and I would cover up the w CW and I would put in some kind of initials
so I knew which belt was which. Amazing, It's like I had so I'd like to put ic on the Intercontinental Belt out of tag on my two tag belts yep. So I had like a just a jumbo had the wing titles from the ring yes, oh yeah, yeah that was my I actually ended up having two because I had the King of the Ring ring. Yeah, I get the King of the Ring yep, yep, And so I had the I had both belts, so I actually used my older one. My older one, uh the championship as a w c W championship and then
I have a all right, because they just looks stupid. They were like so bare bones. Yeah, they weren't bevilled. They didn't have like depth to him. They didn't have like raised no yeah no, they were so chinsey looking and so yeah, so I so I made the other. Yeah, I had a w W belt, and I mean it was funny. I was having WCW in WWE well before they actually even bought the fucking company. Yeah, I'm sure everyone did. It's not like I'm the only person.
But you know, the WCW was like a lesser championship. It's wild, So such an appropriate time to launch into that, considering where the Big Josh that sits in the pantheonic galoobs. But yeah, Vernus had a part Big Josh. It's crazy. So Jared says, they always tell you never to work with children animals, but Big Josh has brought two pet bears here
to super Brawl. They mentioned how he's gonna be facing Blackbard. He's supposed to face Larry's Abisco, but they said Bisco's not responding quickly from knee injury, which is or surgery which was a shoot. Bisco did come in with a knee problem, but he shot at Anglerie beat the shit out of Big Josh on television and did this whole interview where Big Josh was trying to explain like the fact that he was going to bring bears to the show and shit.
So here's the here's the promo to get people interested in Big Josh versus Larry's Abisco, who had pretty much like a talk show function back then on television in addition to wrestling. Yeah, this week on Larry sees legends I'm doing something outrageous. I'm interviewing my opponent for tomorrow night, who I've found out when he talks about Big Ben, this idiot is talking about a bear. He plans to bring a bear to the rain, Big Josh, what
was that except that brings a bear to the ring? Well, I guess Larry's going to maybe fight out more about this, Big Josh going in to talk to Larzi. Let's go back up top and come over here look at it. Don't don't worry about the handshake. I understand that you've got plans to bring in a bear this Sunday night. Let me tell you something. It's you and me, Josh, I've interviewing you. I want no trouble. Don't worry about the stick, brother. I'm just being what is this
story with this bear? Because if you think you're gonna beat me, I know you had you didn't smile. All you want? You're gonna need a bear, isn't that great? Big Old Ben is a bear? Isnay? But I'll tell you what's something about Big Ben. I am flying him out for the super brol this Sunday, and I am glad him first class and he's gonna walk to the ring with me. And I want all the kids at all. I've had Big Ben, but he was a little timey cup
and he wouldn't hurt to fly. The only time you hurt somebody and you got around somebody real obnoxious, you know, like something I don't get. Kid, you're not gonna fight a bear on first minn. I don't really believe. I think you've got suthing up your sleeve. Let me tell you something. You're gonna take me serious. I retired Sam Martino, I retired Botwinkle. And if you're not smart, if you don't take this serious, I'm gonna retire Big Josh. Shut up. Well, I never when you
check your job like that, because you're real funny sometimes. But I want everybody to come out. I want everybody to come out to the super Bowl. I want you all kids come up and get close. Don't be afraid Big Bed, Big Bad won't root. I want everybody, not a big band. You know that's not worried about me. Brother, all come on, I want all your kids. Don't be afraid of Big Bed because Big Ben's gonna be there. He's real nice. I've had him sitch a little
turny cup. He's gonna be right there ringside with me, so we'll see all the time. O goodness that he beats the shit out of him. So yeah, they're really serving up Josh versus Larry Z. And there was also like a tag match with Larry's versus Josh on opposite ends that was at one point as well. We obviously don't get that we I'm sure as the best goest. Need really acted up when he realized that he'd be doing the
job here for the big lump. You know what, But you know what, the equivalent, by the way to to a galue Big Josh is that Hasbro Skinner. I like that. That's a really good se Skinner is the equivalent of that, in my opinion, very good, very close. I'm with you there, yeah, because I was going with the idea they never made a Hasbro as obscure as Big Josh was to WCW, but that's pretty close. Black Bart in the march, he's going to be wrestling Big Josh,
and he was a Dusty favorite. Florida Championship Wrestling drew some houses against Black Bart, and where Dusty is, Black Bart gets a job. It just happens that way. Jared calls him a real brawler, which I think is really stretching the definition of the word real. That is, Big Josh is from the Northwest. We know he's got bears, we know he's got a quick stick, but can he wrestle? As the question, and that is the question. Indeed, they keep cutting to some little girl that has
a Big Josh sign, which I'm sure is a real sign. I'm sure, and not only a real sign, but I'm sure she really really really made that one. And here come two bears standing on two hind legs with muzzles on their mouths being led to the ring, but you know, with straps harnesses hooked around their necks, I guess in the fists of Big Josh. And he's walking these bears down the ramp. They are walking in full standing position. They have like a handler with them right but right next to
Big Josh. And this is supposed to be a worthwhile investment of our time and of their resources to get these bears to come to the ring with Big Josh and do nothing. Well, you know I can understand this to me is another piece of the puzzle with doing you know, because of how easily he's able to handle bears like he's from a circus. Thoughts on this, Thoughts on this, individuals on what part the bears. Oh, it's stupid,
so fucking look, you don't even do anything. As soon as I see it, it's like, this is so goofy, and you can tell they put so much effort into it. Oh, I know, I know. It's so it's like they like, what are you doing? Why? Why I didn't see this? But apparently and I gotta play this for you. There's something I really watched closely for is the Bears are led down the rampway here at Super Bowl one, Tony Schivanni recalls the story as he and
Conrad Thompson are watching this sort of a watch along format. Let's just go along for the ride with Tony and get his stream of consciousness, if you will. On the air is walking to the ring with Big Josh. Hey, now you need to watch Big Josh here because right at the end you're not gonna believe what's happening here. Guys, if you're not watching this, you need to get fucking watching just for this. Go ahead, because as they walk down the bear on the left gonna be pissing, and Dufty knew
it. JR knew it. They started laughing and even doing new it here that they were see the fuck now, bless their hard I really feel bad about this. They're looking around and the one on the left anytime here, come on. He believed this is actually happening. Yeah, there he's pissing the whole way. I really feel bad about this now because it's just not right animal rights. He said, did you see that Edge just pissed on the ramp and there's there's Peggy laid them in the back. Is he Peggy
in the blue? She even knew they pissed off the pissing? Oh shit, wow, I can see what I looked. I try to see piss. I didn't see it. I feel like maybe they knew in the building. And he's like, act like you can notice it on TV. But a right, No, I I gotta from the head to take a look at her. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta look. I gotta look at because I need to see. I used to see if this fucking
if this animal urinates. Yeah, while you do that. The idea they batted about was Ricky Morton and Big Josh versus Larry Zabisco and Danny Spivey in a tag match on the card, which would have been I suppose someone were interesting. Jim Ross had this to say in this podcast about it all. I couldn't tell you, man, that was just another idea. You can tell how many new things the company was trying at that point in time to
simply find something that would stick against the wall. The thing about how impractical it was. What if the bear thing had gotten over? How are you going to get them to the towns? You know, are you going to call the local bear union and say, send me over two bears that are comfortable around people and can walk on their hind legs for about fifty yards. It was impractice. Yeah, it doesn't sound hard to meet, Jim. That's exactly what you do every time you go to has a bear repository,
don't you know this. We pulled into Boston and we needed bears for Big Joss. We asked where the balls the provincetown? Oh, yes, you see it, Oh my god, yes you can, Oh my god, Jesus, of course you get sucking Martin Landau out there fucking taking taking care of these bears. Wow, a stream of consciousness. You see like a little bit of that of of of shiny liquid just you know, trickling out of the bear's crotch. It's it's it's a is it sparkling almost? Yep?
Yep, the glistening look you know when you get the ah wow. Because when I went back and looked, I was looking at kind of a low five version of the show. I wasn't looking at the one on Peacock the master tapes. So maybe it's easier to see on the Yeah, you know, if you're not looking for it, you could miss it for sure.
So I can understand that. But it's at the very very end, right when he gets to the to the ramp, you can see a little you see the trickles just leaving, leaving the physique of the the bear. Of course, it pisses all over the place. I mean, what do you at? That's WCW right exactly. That's that's what I expect, That's what I need, it's what I require. Suppose it got over it. Get what do we get? Bears to the towns, the towns, the towns, the towns, all about the towns. No, I don't think
you would. I think you just you say, fuck the bears. Let's go back to Gary. Indeed, Jim, I'm trying to find it. What do you got for time? Coddy? You still have it? Oh? The thing? I had a file, so I don't know it was Okay, I can. I can quickly find it though, yea, because it's it's definitely worth watching just to see it, just to witness bears urinating in WCW. There's the big boys. So if you're if you want to find it on your peacock, I'm at about forty nine twenty seven, and
here come the bears. Yeah, they must be so scared, that's why they pissed all over the pla. Oh yeah, of course. Well all these people on the sides, like what the fuck is going on out here? They're thinking not like that, but they're not natural to walk on their hind legs for that long. Yeah, there's that too. I'm looking. I don't oh yeah, oh yeah, there it is, leaking out the bottom, just pissing all over the ramp. Look at Martin Landau just enjoying
himself. Fucking big Joe. What an oath is? What if that's doink? Is kind of fucking hilarious. Yeah yeah, ah, god love it. Uh that's the business, if you ask Jim Hurd right there, yep, okay, so Jos Black Bart dust. He says this should be a great contest as Bart hiptoss is off the ropes. It's hilariat and his lumber jack shit steps on the gut the log roll Jr. Talks about. Jr.
Talks about Big Josh's unorthodox style and his low boiling point. Big Josh rather un orthodox, and he's such a good natured guy, but he's got a low boiling point and Black Bart may find that out relatively soon. I'm all about his low boiling point. Okay, the bear didn't have a low boiling point, that's for sure. Yeah right. Josh throws a hard shop out of the corner, throwing hard on Irish whip lands, a left that flops Bart into the canvas and floors him to no puplets. However, Josh
steps on the face with the work boots used to wear. The Timberland's out there. Remember the ideas he talked about in the shooting that he was at. Isn't a wrestle, right, He's a logger right now, A logger are sitting in a cubic. I was gonna say, I thought Alexandro York was the logger in the company. Yeah right, here's that. This is fucking Dusty goes on a weird tangent here about he and j are growing up in Texas. Wouldn't keep up with this one. I'm glad you have it.
This is so fucking weird. You don't know. Black Bud just went over there. Remind me when we were kids, I know, in Oklahoma and Texas, when you were there across that red woman and you loaded that feed for your dad in that last sack. He just kind of throw bad and just roll over that. That's the way black Butt looked when he took that that big hip toss up. I'm sorry, with all due respect, I don't know. I don't know he's talking about it. He said,
I don't know what the sack and you roll over. He talked about his dad, and he talked about Oklahoma and Texas and and and learning some kind of sack. He said, you don't know, Black Bud just went over there. Remind me when we were kids, I know, in Oklahoma and Texas, when you were there across that red woman, and you loaded that feed for your dad. In that last sack, he just kind of throw back and just roll over that. That's the way black Butt looked when he
took that that big hip toss up. I just think it's completely normal, all right. I'm glad you agree. Yeah, listen, Message received, Message acknowledged, Message appreciated. Message folded into my understanding of affairs here at WCW. So hard chops from Josh, as I said, he puts him down, no pop, he steps on his face with his work boots, and Dusty says, Josh don't know a lot about wrestling, the wrestling part of it, but he's a rugged individual and there's nothing he does that's not
hard. Yeah, And he talks about Missy Hyatt and championship matches and and and Big Josh keeping Bard in the mat. Just listen to all he talks about. In less than a minute, I'll tell you what we have we have seen just right off the bad here to nights, what World Championship Wrestling is all about. We're seeing it right bad, We've seen We've seen all kinds of things. I'm looking forward to the Missy High dressing room deal. But right here, Big Josh got control. We talked about it again.
He might not know all the rest and other people does, but he's got the man on the mat. That's where you gotta beat him on the mat. You can't beat him on top of the rope on the outside. I'm sorry, Dusty, I can't. I can't follow you. I mean, actually you can beat him on the outside. It's called a count out. I mean all that was said in less than a minute, exactly all these fucking he talks about fifteen topics in less than a minute. The fuck dust
what are you doing within bath, Daddy? We've fin within your nation within at all, baby, within things. I'm talking about my pancake right now, daddad pancake for breakfast. I had it with maple therap and I had a thought of bacon, and then I've said, Dustin, I said uff. And you know what, Daddy, we gotta go get a whole after the damn show. And then we got big. We got Big fucking Josh
in here, Daddy. He's doing the thing. He's keeping things on the mat and mitthy Hyatt going in the menth dreffing room, Daddy, If what's gonna happen next. It's a great question, let's find out. As Bart tries to hiptoss out and Josh rolls through maintaining the arm control dust, he keep saying, Josh doesn't know what he's doing, but he keeps locking up like studious arm bars and doing straight wrestling wrestling like a wrestler, like a
guy who's been trained. Bar to the eyes, chops in the corner. Black Bark goes to the eyes of Josh, chops him in the corner, making some wheezing noises as he delivers dust. He says, why why would why would a wrestling company hire a log guy who doesn't know how to wrestle? Why hire a garbage man that doesn't know how to wrestle? In WWF, Right, these occupational gimmicks never worked for me, you know, yeah,
it's not it's not a good thing. Like you'd be a wrestler who has that background, who comes from that part of the world of the country or that you know, labor, But you can't be somebody that just was air dropped in from that world with the wrestling training. I mean, you can be, but it never named one time is ever worth you know, Yeah, occupational gimmicks are very They suck every single time, is what they do. Yeah, I'm trying to I'm trying to think of any that are
not are good. Probably the amount he was Okay, it's a good boss man, right, he was a correctional officer who could wrestle. I guess yeah, that's the probably the most successful one, probably is that he's a fucking police officer. He'll be coming after you. You can wrestle. You know it's gonna change you as well. Dusty says something incomprehensible like you just said, and he says something like dab nabya And that's the same thing as
Dad burden. You let me tell you burning. Yeah, Dusty says, they know this is super brawl and to win in this event put you in the world's rankings for the titles. That's exactly what I'm thinking when I see Big Josh compete. Josh is fighting for rankings for titles, fighting something's rank all right, I'll tell you that back from his knees to islands. Hey, Josh, if a tree falls in the forest Africa, the rest If a tree falls in the forest, does it make as much sound as the
crowd here? On your match here Josh with the fujiwara armbark counter because he doesn't know how to wrestle. See how it goes. That was a nice move. I learn how to wrestle. Dusty says he did learn that in the gymnasium. He learned that in the Yukon or wherever he's from. Dusty, you created the gimmick. What do you mean wherever he's from? Gave him the logger gimmick because he was Portland, Oregon. He's in the but he's in the Yukon. I mean, I didn't know he went to Yukon,
Yukon. Everybody, Dusty, so make say Irish whip Josh with the axe handle chopped to the throat, not not the actual wooden axe handle, but you get it. The axe handle wrestling move. Oh my god. And then he just basically earthquake splash. Yeah yeah, well he does kind of a it's like a version of what he would use as doing the whoope cush absolutely except on the mat and side off the top. Yep ye one two, three, three minutes, forty six seconds. Big Josh defeats Black
Bart and his pay per view debut here at Super Bowl Brawl one. Josh has his best friend of the whole world into the camera. He says this, he doesn't want to say who he's talking about. He must be referring to the Bears, and he just says, see you later and take camera. He says that yes, by see you later. By. Dusty thinks it's the butt Bump is what that movie is called, even though he says Big Josh is taken to referring to it as the butt Drop Jared's is speaking
of. But Scarry Michael Copetta is about to introduce one. Escapeta says, with a special edition of The Danger Zone. He see Henley Truth Cowboy and I love New York mister Paul E dangerously. And here he comes in his pink shirt and khaki shorts and sneakers, trying to obnoxious a cowboy hatreppy, oh god, and a cowboy hat because he's I mean, like, we
got interview segments. We got fucking so stupid short short matches. It's like an episode of raw overproduced entrances with bears and smoke and mirrors and green lasers and Dorothy and the tin Man. It sucks. Jared says he's never seen a cowboy like that where he came from. And Dusty says they would string him up out back by his heels for two days and come back and poke fun at him if he showed up in his parts dressed like that. Polly
dangerously much like Tom. Zink had signed a one year contract renewal shortly before this pay per view, so this is kind of like a new foot forward for him. And this is where it grabs the microphone and gets off to an inauspicious start under this contract because the microphone is not piping into the house pa at all, and he tries to transition. Is knocking Florida, Fordy, he says, once again, something in Florida fouls you up. He
people can't even get a microphone straight. And he says his guest tonight he is the only real cowboy. And he comes in there hitting the ropes like a madman, bleeding from the mouth, drooling, but with chewing tobacco spit and his cow hide chaps. It's stand hands. Yes, it is fucking Main says, First of all, if you were real cowboy, you'd have to do a little work, and I know you never worked a day in
your life. He takes off his hat and says, I bought the hat to be a cowboy, just like you in stances, this hat is made in New York City. This ain't no cowboy hat. This must be right around that time. Play it again for the people New York City's drooling on his chest and tummy. He says, I'll tell you a lunch, you young shots. Dustin, you sh snots I wrote. I think it's what he said, Dustin and Zinc and Pillman, but mainly you Dustin stan Hanson's
here. You don't want to wrestle me. Nobody came forward. I'm still here. I'm going to fight. And he whips his bull rope around someone. He says, especially Dustin, you get a pretty clear idea of who brought him in and for what. He says, Come on, I'm ready to all and Paul says, you talk about a real cowboy, han guy
who doesn't hide behind a microphone or something. When you say a general like Storman Norman, he's the first family of the nature boy Rick Flair, who's going to be the champion, arn Anderson, who's going to beat about beautiful Bobby. So we're talking about how all the heels are going to win tonight, and the PA gives up again, so Paul starts barking into the camera and the microphone comes back on. He says, because these people from Florida
can't even get the sound right. Who's running the truck? Someone from Florida. I quit this damn job. No, Paul, you just be signed as a matter of fact. Yeah, yeah, Paul, you get a little bit longer. Jarrs says, I'm glad that's over. And I'm thinking, Jim, it wasn't some Paully chants though, nonetheless, and Jarsy's fans. We've heard a lot about Oz, Yes, we have fans. We've heard a lot about Oz. We sure have. And we're getting ready to take a look. I think, Babby, you know you get this,
uh this castle facade. But has anyone actually ever fucking seen the Wizard of Oz and situation here and nothing like this? And I've been the two bille robes and an all night fair brother, Tell me when there is tell me when once upon a time and a land far away, there lived a wizard, but not the Wizard of Oz. His name was the Great Wizard, and he ruled the Kingdom of Oz, and now are weary travelers are at the end of their journey. As they faced the Emerald City, Welcome,
dolcome one. The does want them dis don't feel clan, but the persons want the dies. Where stays when I was doing? Oh my god, I am the grazing power Kevin Nash Both Who are you? Yeah? Who are the great and powerful? Eyes? Those? Why you have come? How dare come to me? I will show you who I really. I will show the world who are really is? That's got fucking like porn music. Welcome, Welcome, Who sounds like another one bites the welcome, Welcome
to, Welcome to, Welcome power, Welcome power. He is huge, Dusty, This guy is cute. Brother. This is just knocked my socks right off right here. I never seen nothing like that. This guy here looks to me, I would say, seventh foot tall, last and I'm I'll tell you what. This is an awesome, awesome, awesome display the world chimpionship wrestling and bringing it through your baby. We're taking a look at Oz. Thoughts. I I just can't believe it didn't get over. Hey,
Sully, when what's he doing? Welcome to Oz? What the fuck is he don't know what's that that idiotic mask of his walcome gnaws, welcome naws. Oh my god, also so so so he said, this is what I don't understand too. It says, in the fucking thing there was a wizard, but not the Wizard of Oz. And then he goes, I'm gonna show you who Oz really is. So what is it? Oh my god, I know this Os are not Oz. What's the deal exactly?
It's like, even if you gave them way more of the benefit of the doubt, they're counting on you to not take it seriously because when you actually listen to what's being said, none of it makes any sense. It all conflicts. And why Kevin Sullivan has a live monkey on his shoulder, it's another question. I'm all winging monkey. You know that's from Voice of Oz. You get the winging monkeys and stuff, So that makes total sense. Actually, well with that one. According to Tony Hivanni, it wasn't
a very easy night for this particular monkey. Again. I tell the story as they as they walked up the stairway. Kevin walked up the stairway leading Oz in and the monkey jumped off again his shoulder and the monkey was swinging like a pendulum at the end of Kevin's thing. Oh my god, and or chain and I'm thinking he gonna kill the fucking monkey. Yeah, I was told that the monkey died. Now I don't know shit himself wildcalls the pyro or he was swung by his neck too many times by Kevin. If
that's the case, moo on us. Oh what a fucking fucking goofy. What a wrestling got too far away from the circus for Jim Hurd's taste. So let's get the bears in here, Let's get the monkeys in here. Let's get the lasers and the fucking you know. I feel like, you know, they keep calling us a circus, so I think we should embrace that. Absolutely. The circus makes a lot of money. People love Barnam and circus is pretty Circus is pretty fantastic. I think we could do a
whole circus unit. How about a wrestler called Big Tent. Get John what's John Tenta doing? That'd be a good name for him. Big Tent would be a Lee Marshall on any given knife. Good one man. And all these miscues with Sullivan saying like you know, telling me when DDP being alive. It isn't. No, it might be chocked up to the absence of Craig Leathers, who was the long time director for the w ST pay per view shows. He missed this show because his wife had just given birth.
If you look closely in the credits to the show, they actually said Craig and his wife congratulations. So Dan Bynum, who was kind of a guy that Chavanni is talking not derogatorially about, but kind of talked about him as sort of like a local yokel guy, like a local access kind of guy that kind of was thrust into, you know, higher level national television production, didn't quite know what he was doing, was elevated to produce this pay
per view for this night. So that might be where to point your finger. Not perhaps not fair to mister Bynum, but something that was noted. And I know a lot of miscues here, and I've heard Chavanni point at buying him before for some of the production missteps that have been observed on ww AND broadcasts. Yeah, so yeah, you heard the whole thing. What's upon a time you land far away, It's just you can't believe your eyes. You can't believe that someone greenlet this pardon the pun, and then it's
you know, they thought it would be over. I just I always wonder when I think this, like what crowd reaction did they expect in their mind? Is they would have put it out there if they expected the object silence they got. But what did they expect people to do? But just and and and not only that, but when you what are you expecting? Like, what are you thinking when you're having people dress up as the characters?
Right? As well? It's one thing to have Kevin Nash play Oz and play that thing, but then which I'm not saying it's it's a good choice, but it's a choice. But then you go that extra step and actually have Dorothy and the Lion and the Scarecrow and the tin Man like, so, not only are you trying to convince us that Oz is the real Oz Wizard of Oz, but you're also trying to make us believe that the Wizard of Oz is a true story. On top of that, yes, that
can be realized in wrestling. I don't get it. It's so bizarre. Clip we played from Kevin Sullivan in part one, he made reference to Janie Angel who's the longtime sort of assistant to whoever the w W boss is at the moment, from Dusty to Bischoff, And I guess she's involved. I don't know if she's in the Dorothy costume. Because they shoot those Wizard of
Oz characters from behind exclusively. You don't really get a yeah, you never see a front on view of them at all, trying to create kind of like a thing and trying to create like a I don't know, like a tableau of imagery they want to associate with this character, and it's it's a castle too, like, you know, that's not what the Emerald City looks like. No, the Emerald City is all fucking art deco, shiny green, you know, it's very nineteen thirties, Like, that's not what that
is. Nash does look massive with his back to them and his cape on his super Shredder cape essentially, Yeah, I know, yep, that fucking idiotic like hat from I don't know where. And I guess a lot of the pyrotechnic effects left a strong smell of sulfur in the air that spectators were complaining about. According to the Observer, that was a big distraction on things but yeah, they just put over how big he is. As you heard Ian's he got those huge eyes do Kevin Nash's eyes are all bugged out,
and he's got like a Santa be basically colored white, I know. And he's got this weird, this weird mullet thing going on. It's all bad when you think about Kevin Nash and what a premium he places on feeling cool in the in the ring and on the mic. To see him in like a cartoonish character like this, it's just it's it's just something else. Oh, he's such a bozo. He's such a he's not capable of doing these kind of characters. He's just not. It's not gonna work. He can
never get the conviction in his face. He tries to. He looks so hokey, you know, when a guy with his discons to do it, especially coming to know as real personality as we did, it's just impossible. Yep, it's all it's all bad. So it's all bad. He does a shoulder bumped down goes his partner, Tim Parker, who's supposed to be Tim Horner, the WCW jobber extraordinary at the time, but I think Horner had a neck injury, so he missed the show. Parker's and blue trunks.
Oz just kills him, slams him. They you know, they talk about how that slam will take your will away to breathe on the commentary, he's laughing, and then he puts Parker over his shoulder for like that Bruno Sammartino backbreaker position, just spins him around, so he does the full cyclone tornadoes spinning the air, lands on his phone on the canvas, and Oz puts his foot on his chest and it's one, two three. I don't think the Wizard even leaves the ring, and all six seconds a real match
up. I mean, I love how people are fucking forking over their hard earned dollar for this ship, and they were plugging it ahead of time. They thought this was going to be one of the more buzzworthy things to happen on the show. It was just not in the way they they wanted it to be. Dusty trying to make it knowing it's dying a death, but knowing he's got, you know, ego wrapped up in this thing, starts talking about how awesome it was. I'll tell you what, this is awesome.
It's so Nash bounces and we go to a look at what's to come in World Championship Wrestling, and it's as bad as you remember. We pitched Hi Missy in the locker room, thanks Jim and Dusty. And she's outside the dressing room of the male wrestlers and attempting to get a locker room interview. She opens it up and looks for z Man flying Brian, but no, it's Terry Taylor. He's sitting there putting his taking his boots off. I suppose, And she says, I know you just had a situation with
Dustin and Alexandrew York. How do you feel about it? And he says, I don't know what you're doing in the men's locker room. This thing's not over this this whole it's it's not at all. It's very bad. It's very bad. Wells. She's carrying the yellow clown knows Mike the whole time. She asks if that's his stuff, this email stuff right there down the floor in the locker room, and and and suddenly we hear this music and she says, I hope that's not who I think it is, and
could he be in the shower? And she says she's going to be the first woman to interview a wrestler in the shower. And there's Stan Hanson in his boxers in the shower, of course, but otherwise naked. And before he starts chasing Missy around despite his sopping wet hair, he puts his cowboy hat on, which pops dusty on the headset. You can hear it visibly.
You can hear him, you know, snort, and she's screaming like no. When he starts spanking her with his hat and kicks her butt a little bit, all these all these appropriate things, she squeals, and she's so bad at acting, so bad at pretending that she's actually like flustered and scared. I know it's awful for me to say, but she's just better off just standing there silent totally and letting people stare at her. She's beautiful,
she has amazing charisma, and she can talk. But when you put her in a position of having to emote like this and like, yeah, it's just I don't know, you know, and kind of deliver like a met delivering directions, not at a work, not at all. Year says, those are the world's biggest boxer shorts on, old stand hands and you can tell Dusty loved it. Oh yeah, it's totally up his fucking alley.
He says he hasn't seen a scene like that since his old man used to get up in the morning to do plumbing work and walk through the house. Yeah, here he is. I got that for you. Stop taking what I never I see a scene like That's him. The whole man used to get up in the morning to go do plumbing work and stack it due to half with him fifty two bucks for shots run in hed and she she needed to run in it because that was a lot showing that, brother,
Yeah, yeah, you got that right. There's a lot of showing there. Brother. Why would you have to run and hide from your dad because he's walking through the house with boxer shorts on. Why would you have to hide? Was gonna do beat the ship? If he looks like Dusty? I'd bean I think you could run and hide for that. But he said fifty two is he's talking about fifty two waistband size. He's gotta be tape fist matches up next, because every match has to have something to it.
Ah, I know you've explained this to me before yes, yes, please tell me why How is it? How is it taped fist more dangerous than a fully exposed knuckle because it makes it harder to break your knuckle, So you're more emboldened to throw harder punches because you're not as afraid of breaking your hand. It's like if you wrap your hand in plaster and punch somebody, it's it's a lot better for your bone, the bones in your hand than
if your hair is. If your hair is wide open, hands wide open like that and you punch someone in the head and hit their skulls, gonna break your hand, you can't do anything, So why box gloves and stuff? So again, it's got nothing to do with that. I mean, but the way they do it, the way they talk about it, is that they talk about it like these he said, like JR. Says the taped fists are lethal weapons, and they don't get it because they're trying to
like say that the tape itself hurts, But it's not that. It's just that it allows you to throw harder punches for long. It doesn't allow you. It doesn't allow you to it gives you the option. Well, yeah, I mean, if you're gonna choose to do it. You'll get the clue after one punch. Then know if I did that again, it's gonna hurt me and more it's gonna hurt him. Oh I mean, I guess yeah, I mean yeah. That I was taking from boxing where they tape
their fists and stuff for a reason. But yeah, it's it's it's okay the way they do it, but it's I don't know, it doesn't bother me too much. Just somebody. Guys tape their fists anyway. And wrestling, Oh I know, I know that too. I special Why why do these guys need special dispensation to tape their fists? Guys can tape fists all the time and often do. These kinds of matches really rub me the wrong way, and so I don't care how good it ends up being. I
just don't like it. Yeah, and I'm thinking tape fist match. I thought it was a This was live, Jared says one of the most courageous athletes he's ever known as Brian Pillman and here we go, two time All American Miami of Ohio. He was a walk on kids out there and never give up on your goals and dreams. Okay, Jem, I won't once I figure out the translation of the significance I just said, Barry Wyndham comes out, and as long as Dusty has the book, Barry has a job.
He's kneepad list, which is distressing. You know. You know it's funny, Jr. You know there's that thing, you know, don't ever give up on your on your hopes and dreams. But you know, in many ways, the only way that some people can achieve their hopes and dreams, other people do give up on their hopes and dreams. Yeah, you can't need to make room, right, I mean if we all achieved our hopes and dreams like, it would be anarchy. Yeah, we'd just be
cutting people's throats all the time. Right. So the leather vest is on, no kneepad, shorter hair. It's not Berry Wyndham's best look. Oh, I mean there's not really much. There's not. I don't know if there is a very Wyndham good look, because I can't stand his his stringy
hair. Yeah, but this is definitely not whenever he cut his hair short, it's not it's not good and he should just fucking hang up the boots and to think that he's going to, you know, be positioned as a world title challenger at the Great American Bash and just a couple of months, less than a month is tough. Jr. Says he's the master of the superplex, as technically perfect as any athlete I've ever seen as Barry Wyndham. And Dusty says, Berry Wyndham is the greatest pro wrestler in the sport today.
So what about your son? Take that? I know, not quite yet. Berry Wyndham versus Brian pillin tape this match here at super Brawl. There's a big chef to Brian early and Pillman gets right in his face, and Dusty says, it's great psychology. Was there ever a time? Was there ever a time when Barry Wyndham was in a wrestling ring and people called him legendary? Probably this show, but it's been a while. He was
a wonderful pro wrestler. It's just but Dusty, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, he was like the greatest thing you've ever seen, and it's like he hasn't really He's fine, isn't. He's not a good promose. He holds most people back, but for some reason, to Barry Wyndham's case, he never that never was a gating factor for him, but it was for others. Again, there's just something wrong with a guy named Barry being a serious contender for any kind of people loved his dad, you know,
Flair and Flair and Dusty alike both loved Mulligan. Mulligan in a ton of respect. So you know here we are Wyndham of course, right is That's why Bray Wyatt's first name is Wyndham because of Mike Rotendo and Barry Wyndham's longtime friendship and years his tag team partners. So push off at a tackle down goes Brian Pillman body slam, but no, it's a go behind by
Pillman push off. Pilman takes down Barry Windham. Windham with a leap frog and a hiplock and a flying shoulder block and he starts punching Barry in the face as Brian Pillman. Barry goes to the corner, so Pillman works him over. There's Berry Wyndham turns his back and calls for refereing Nickpatrick to get Pillman off of him. So definitely a heel doing his work here. Then he yells at him too. You know, Wyndham yells at at Nickpatrick about
Pillman not knowing the rules tape fist match. What fucking rules are there supposed to be violent? And Barry Wyndham digs into the ribs after creating that distraction, and Jared's Wyndham again goes for the ribs, and certainly Jahar would know, and Jr. Turns the dusty and dust He's going for the ribs as well, catering, but going for the rib. Daddy, I'm going for the rib. Fuck it ordering door dash at ringside book or t style, so it's ready as soon as the show's over. Give me that. I'm
gonna I'm order the door dash, daddy. I want to. I want to get the rib come and deliver it right here at ring fid Baby, did you ever see that clip where someone the lights are out at the NXT Arena in Orlando and you can see Booker's phone is lit up and he's ordering like TGI Fridays. Oh my god, no, I just that's hilarious. What a fucking takes. He's so happy, tucks into a chicken parm after
the show, and the back just wolfs that thing down. You know, he kills three bites and the things or he get like a like a like an appetizer sampler, you know, door dash to the performance center. Tremendous frommendous. Yes, So Barry Windom hits a body slam, climbs the top rope, but Pilman is a drop kick and Windom takes a great bump, kind of timber style, off the top of the floor. Windom out of sorts. His pillman then leaps from the top rope and pops him in the
head with a closed fist. Dusty says, this might be the licking you're gonna get for the lick I and he would know. Barry Wyndham pulls a pillman into the post. He looks so stupid. That haircut ruins everything about him anything good. It just ruined buy that fucking idiotic haircut. It's unfortunate and it's it's a it's a shame, it's a travesty. It's one of those things that you wish you could disinvent. So even though Wyndham just pulled
pillman into the post, Wyndham has busted open. Must have been from the earlier assault off the the tape fist axe handle from pillman Dusty then tucks into a table talk pie in here. I was having something. I fell in nobodies and I worked in Boston. Man, there's apple pie, little rubarb fucking tabletop pie. Oh my god, tremendous is that? Oh? I used to fucking when I was in high school. I was obsessed with the cherry pie. It's good stuff, isn't it. Oh? It was one
of my favorite fucks in Worcester. I think. Really it's a local company. Yeah, people don't know what you're talking about nationwide. Me. You talk about table talk pies. I learned that. Yeah, I get him a seven to eleven. It's a little pie. It's like, you know, like you make an apple pieces individual survey. Yeah, right exact. It's like, yeah, exactly, it's your own personal pie box. You sit down at coffee, Oh my god, came over, had coffee.
You want table talk by Oh my gods, have coffee and talk shit about the woman at I said, hey, you know what I'm gonna get on latch wreaking on a tabletop pie. Pretty smartphones. When Peggy would come over to Alorie's house and talk shit about season, Oh hi, Peggy, how you doing? How'd your brother? God, he's getting so is a is he a cargy? Know what kind of dog is he? Oh? My god? You know, you know my cousin, my cousin in the Hampshire
breathes them. My cousin in New Hampshire, she breathes them. But she also, you know, she's a big fan of the Golden Retriever. I couldn't live I love a golden I couldn't live out there, all the bugs and shit, Oh my god, it's like, oh, have you deliver? Do you think? Do you think? Do you think I'm gonna live up there during the during the fucking the fucking spring of the summer. Fuck
that shit. Can you believe what Susan said on Friday? I mean, it's three to thirty and she's already got to have one foot out the door. I'm dealing with all these patients who are trying to see the doctor. They all have appointments to make, and she's nowhere to be found, pretending that she's on a smoke break. We know better than that. Why is this doctor gonna open his eyes and fire the people I don't like? With
table time? You just brought to you by table. I've been telling doctor Sullivan the whole, you know, for months now, and she just doesn't you know, you know what she He doesn't do often taken. I think they might be, you know, someone's someone's destined to make the suggestion at some point that I think maybe, you know, I think it's something going on behind the scenes doctor and the girls in the office. He took her
to the cape. I didn't think he'd get noticed. But she's got a sister in the law whose cousin works at like the True Value and Buzzard's Bay. Saw the doctor walk in for like some batteries or something in his salmon colored shorts. You know, my sister Debby, who works with Demulus. She said she saw it's like you know, when you when they're eating a pie of both through their nose. But they're heavy smokers, so like the breath through their nose, you can almost smell the tinge of the cigarettes.
Oh god, what what which one did you get? Did you get? I got a cherry pipe? What'd you get? What'd you get? What you kid get? She brings it to the table with ashtrays on the table. You know, this goes oh yes, yes, like Friday night at eight thirty, Oh my god, both husbands out getting blasted. I remember, like it was there was a I went to to to to build them
on or build them ons Mom's old house, God rest her soul. And I remember one time I went there and it was it was it was at night and and it had that you know, we're in the kids chin, I forget what we're doing, but we're in the kitchen, and you know, it's got that overhead and pure right now fluorescent light. You know, so everything's got that. It's like you got this light on it, full
power. But because it's that fluorescent look, it's still so dark. Every scheme and everybody's fucking like it's like maybe like four or five of us, everybody just fucking chugging down on cigarettes. Like nobody's business. It's our fucking job. Nobody's gonna know that experience anymore. Like we're the last generation to remember that. Yep, yep. Like I just I was like, holy
shit, this is this is this is Massachusetts right here. You didn't smoke, but you knew what it was like to be around smoke all the time. Yep, yep. I remember my yep. I'm you know, all all of my uh you know, my dad's aunts and uncles and stuff like that, one of them smoked at some point, and so I was so it was such a yeah that that that that smell of interior cigarette smoke is something that is going to be that that is totally lost to anybody else,
you know, because everybody smoked in the house. An associating cigarette smoke with being social, yes, exactly. Think of a lot of friends of like my parents and stuff that would do with rip butts and it's like, you know, like they wouldn't really if they weren't having a smoke, they would never talk to anybody. That was like how you talk to people? Yeah, you know, yep, it's not like you talked about the cigarettes.
But without the cigarettes, it's like giving an excuse because you're you're with somebody. You're with somebody. I remember I same thing happened with me. It's it's it's it's a it's a weird little name dropping moment. But I was, you know, when I was working at UH, when I was in La working on you know, doing my occasional PA gigs on the Henry were all on show. I remember one time there was a band and I was
taking a cigarette break outside. They're feeling a band and one of the thicker people who who you know, followed the band was Elijah Wood, and so he was there and then he came out while I was having a cigarette, and you know, we just like chatted for a little bit as we're you know, he asked for a light on the sea and never fucking lighter and so we're both just smoking cigarettes and we're chatting about it, all perfect examples, random shit. It's exactly. Yeah, that's smoking. That does not
happen, not at all, not at all. We never would have talked, yep, because like smoking is understood is something you certainly can savor it and spend on light in a cafe and talk about poetry and smoke fourteen cigarettes. Yeah, it's also understood is something that can be a short burst thing. Like just because I'm talking to you because we're smoking, I don't have to worry about this being a fucking hour long conversation I get stuck in.
We both know we can both end the conversations that we're done with our cigarette. We have a right there, there's a we have a we have a timer. We have a tim right here with the cigarette. When when one of us is done with a cigarette, that that the conversation is over. You have the option of doing it in a way that's you know, socially
not awkward. You can just like say, all right, well, good talk to you man, Just you know, put the butt out and you get day exactly, Whereas without the cigarettes, someone just has to go, well, I gotta pretend I got a place to be because I'm done with this conversation. Yea kind of kind of interesting what we lost with cigarettes, you know what we gained A lot of lost some people. So cigarettes, you know, it's like people think sigusalking is bad. Look at that.
All these social opportunities certainly is bad. But I don't know, it's just it's things people gather around are very important, and some of them happen to be harmful. But so just have two table talk pies instead of a pack if cigarettes sand table talk pie. You need them all all, you need them all you need you need you need a you need a Dunk's coffee in uh not not you know, in small in the cardboard cup, pack of fucking marble reds and a tabletop pie. And that's that's a Friday night,
right, That's a whole fucking event. Fucking count me in, man, don't even get me started. Is it true that coffee goes really well with cigarettes? Oh? My god? Why how does it interact? You know? I don't. I don't know what it is, but I never so those that are wondering why I asked, I have no idea. But I drink coffee all the time, and I always wonder why the two went so
much together all those years. There was something I don't I don't really know what it is, but it's just a wonderful, wonderful thing to be able to like it. Almost in a weird way, the coffee kind of cleanses there the taste for a moment, even though it's gonna come fucking roaring back five minutes later after you're done. But one of the when I when I
was quitting smoking, one of the hardest parts was having a coffee. Was well, not even just having a coffee, but there was a coffee place where I'd always go down the street from and and and so if I was going to a job, you know, or a show or whatever, I
would always stop there. Imply to l ready to get a coffee. I get a coffee, and then I would have a cigarette on my way to work, you know, like when I was working on Premonition and I'm driving to Sony and I'd have my coffee and i'd have a cigarette while I was driving. And when I when I quit, that was one of the hardest things getting a coffee at that place. I definitely didn't go there nearly as much because I whenever I did get a coffee from there, I wanted to
have a cigarette. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, in the morning, you know, I'd get up, i'd make coffee and the like, you know, on the h in the house and the apartment, and then i'd go on to the deck and perfect perfect. Yeah. Oh yeah, it was fucking amazing, great, you said, Duncan, And that's
true. But it's a great accompaniment to homemade coffee too. It's just like absolutely, all of a sudden, the quality of the coffee doesn't have to be this big high falutin thing, because what it really is is just like a counterbalance to the cigarette as much as it is its own treat. And and it's funny, you know, there is such like a weird there's such
an oral fixation. It's it's all that you know, and and and it was it was, you know, it was great, Like I used to there are there are parts, there are times I do you know, only from only from the actual act of doing it. Obviously not health related, I mean how it affected my skin everything, But from the actual just act of doing it. I do miss having like a cigarette with a coffee.
It was such a great thing I saw not too long ago. It's like a video that someone had taken of a high school class somewhere in America and the eighties, and these kids are fifteen, sixteen years old or whatever and between the eighties hair dues and yeah, yeah, you know, everybody's like, why do these kids look like they're thirty five? Like high schoolers now look like babies. They don't look like this. And it's because of cigarettes.
Because cigarettes make your skin look like you're fifteen years older than you are exactly, It's that simple. And all these kids are smoking like chimneys. Yep, it really does. It affects your skin like crazy. So I knew there was a reason I wrote Dusty Tucks into a tabletop pie as Berry Wyndham passes Pillman because we need a tangent on fucking unsmoking cigarettes. And then he drives Pilming off the ramp and well railing and starts showing some big time
fire shouting. Wyndham suddenly feeling it, and Dusty says that blow would have taken anybody out to lunch. Dusty would know Irish whip. Pillman ducks spinning Hill Savot kick on the rebound nails and drops Berry. Wyndham who Pillman's bleeding by the way after eating the rail earlier. And he's throwing throwing some open hand shops that are really landing with impact, really awesome. Jared gets hard
at the sound of the impact, starts square yes yeah. When he starts saying w c W Superbra World Championship pressling hen W. When he starts like talking about the promotion, you know, we start yeah. When he starts talking to the company, it's like, whoa, you know, something's happening. WF couldn't match. So Windham drives Pillman into the corner. They talk about how every year in the National Football League they give the Courage Award to
a player, and Pillman won it. When he's on the Bengal Oh My God Jr. In the Sports pages Man a dangerous combination. They're throwing hard and then Windham just snatches him and lift him and dumps him of the back suplex and then headlock push off by Pilman who does the drop down and they both bond heads. Dusty says he's seen two rams way up in Colorado do that to each other. It's Barry Windham lands in right hands, hooks a
suplex. But no Pillman here's talking about He's talking about the football team. No, I don't think so, spoking on Leon White j Rs. Is flying. Brian will ascend to the stars to take a chance, which means which means he's climbing the top rope, but a Windham shoves Nick Patrick out of the way and with the referee kind of trying to gather as wits, Windham lands a low blow one Pillman and then a wonderful middle rope superplex and a beautiful float over by Wyndham into the cover one, two and three.
Berry Windham pins Brian Pillman in the tape fist match six minutes and eight seconds. It's super brawl, really tight, good good wrestling here. I guess I wasn't a fan. It's just I'm I'm a fan of the again. Like I said, it, the whole, the whole gimmick of it all just really ruins the whole thing for me, and I can't get past it. It's so hard. It finish has almost nothing to do with the tape
fists. It's almost a non factor. It's right right, and and that kind of is what rubs me the wrong way is because like they make a big deal out of it being this tape fifth match, but there's so little having to do with the actual punching that was Dusty Man all cage matches, gimmick match on every single thing on the show. It it was ridiculous bunk
house matches like just stop after the bell. Wyndham keeps pummeling Pillman's head and kicking and stomping it, and Dusty calls the superplex the most famous maneuver and pro wrestling outside of the Figure four, which I've never heard before, and fortunately for us, DDP is standing by and he starts saying, please shut up, everyone, please, because he doesn't know he's on a live hot mike. And then someone goes, h come on, it was DDP.
You can tell he's restless wherever he's nervously. It's too much man. He goes, are we live. I don't know why I didn't. I don't know why I didn't have this. I fucking I should have had this. I don't know why I didn't grab this one. So we live. That's right? And then he realizes we are, and he goes, that's right. You got DDP here chairman of the board of the Diamond Exchange, and he's got two women on his arm, and he says, it's gotta make
you five. And Diamer's envious that you know, a man like DDP can be in a position like this. He says, good God. He talks about how he told the world he's going to have those straps around the free birds and he does, talked about Fantasia coming out of nowhere. Says he's got money, he hasn't folded yet, and he says the delicious Diamond Dolls and now the Diamond Mine are in a full effect today at SuperBrawl Matches of
all matches, two super egos. He talks about as the Steiners are going to face Lex Luger and Sting as the Jersey accent bleeds through a little bit at its attempts to talk like Dusty Rhodes. They show a video which was played a lot on television, leading in which shows the Steiners and Sting and Luger just being valiant baby faces and action. Why why is this happening now?
It's so weird. It's almost like they had a notion that Sting and Luger would be guests on The Diamond Mine, and when it came time to actually have them do the talk show segment, they just said, let's play the video because you would have enough time. That's really what it seemed like. This is supposed to be almost like a stand in for having Luger and Sting on the talk show segment, because that's what the Diamond Mine was.
It was like Piper's pet or whatever. Yeah, but then why would you also have if you're going to do that, why would you have the thing that happens afterward? They debut Scott Hall. I don't know what they were thinking, no clue. Maybe it's a one two punch on the segment. I don't know. Maybe maybe Diamond stud would have gone face to face with Luger and Sting, I don't know, but it doesn't happen the video.
Actually, I was mistaken that video I mentioned that montage plays later. What plays here is just a standard green screen Luger and Sting promo for the match, talking about the butterflies and adrenaline flowing and how they're going to be up against the measuring sticks and the steiners, and talking about how the walk it's coming in just a few more breaths. And just as much as you guys are nervous in the audience, all four of us are nervous, the total
package of myself are both very very ready for this. Okay, Sting, he says, good luck, you're gonna need it. They weren't brilliant enough to have them out here and show enough flicker and flare full mind so awful, awful promo by both of them. Lutheran was okay, now, this is a real Glimpson. What people did knock on staying back when he first got to make a push with them, Yea, he couldn't carry him. He couldn't carry a tune in the mic at all. He figured that out
over time. But this is why people were like, he's not he's not anywhere near Hogan's stratosphere because he can't talk people in the buildings. He just can't do it. People say he was booked poorly and he had bad programs, and that's true, but even if he had great programs, he wouldn't be able to come anywhere close to maximizing the box office appeal of the match on this totally, totally so pieces good luck, you're gonna need it.
And he kind of talks about the two as if they were too afraid to come on the Diamond Mine, so he says, I'm gonna bring up my latest edition instead. He's twisted steel, he's sex appeal and good ga. He's six foot seven and two hundred ninety three point ninety three pounds. His name is the Diamond stud and here he comes with one strap up on his overalls. DDP says he was looking for a special dudet for this man to
be on the road with. We're coming from town to town, across the country and around the world, and I'll show you what you've got to do to audition a studet. And they peel off his pants and he's got packing trunks on. He's supposed to be like this hunk of man meat or whatever the fuck they're going for here. I mean he this is still this is still like you know, a w A. Scott Hall in terms of his
size, just not his look. He was massive, not a slow Yeah, and he's got the razor mone look with that massive physique, like not
leaning like he would end up becoming at all. Not the drug test at WWF that was actually Remember a small part of the trial of his life was Hall saying at one point that they were going to if they did call witnesses in Titans defense, that they were going to call him because he'd be able to credibly go up there and say, look, if this uh, if this company is just about rewarding people who take steroids to get supernatural physiques,
then my story doesn't take any sense because I did all my rooting before I came here. I came here, I got smaller, I got off the gas, and I had the most successful career years of my career, right right. He ultimately, as we know, was never called its Vince called no witnesses ultimately, but apparently that it's didn't need a defense. I don't need and I don't need to be defended beyond nothing wrong. It's exactly right. Everything I did was in the legal realm of the WWE. We are
a legal company. I think I'm disputing that. Not yet, at least. So DDP says it's going to be hunk hysteria, and Damon stud already has the toothpick. He doesn't say a word, so nope, nope, we can't tell how close he is to the razor ram own gimmick fully formed quite yet. But the toothpick is there all the girls. I think it's I I do think it's. It's it's it's a pretty crazy thing that both
Paul and Nash debut in WCW on the same night. Absolutely true, And that's what Bischoff would leverage in describing the nWo is something other than an attempt to convince the audience that WWF was involved, was to say that they actually, you know, walk the exact same path initially in WCW and would have reason to want to come back here to seek so stupid compense for the way
they were treated and the gimmicks they were saddled with. Essentially, so DDP delivers the IMDDP and you're not lying, and then it keeps talking and you realize he thinks he's off the air as he starts seeing things like hey girls, girls come here, and this is where he drops the fuck line and all of that, And Jared says, well, that was quite a debut. Here. Let's go to Gary Competta. There comes Sid from anywhere he darned well pleases, and two anywhere he darned will pleases as we learned.
Yeah, you're damn right, Sid Vicious barking into the camera with Theissler pyro on behind him. He's totally massive. He gets in the ring, takes a knee, and he's facing seven seven four fifty four from Argentina with some red flames on his piro entrance, the largest athlete in the world, El Gihonte, and he hate there it again, thank you, And he pulls the stretcher with some difficulty to the ring because this one has to be a stretcher match. Yes, yes, of course, and then he sets the
gurney down. He carries it all the way down the ramp and then just sets it down at the end of the ram, right, But it wasn't cooperating when he tried to wheel it down there, so it's said verse Gigante and Sid's WCW curtain call match, and said, is definitely looking up at Guyante. They found someone to dwarf the man. It's really kind of fascinating because I've never seen Sid ever looks so small against somebody at once. It's wild. Yeah, he never came up against like, you know, Ron
Ree Sir, not Collie or anybody like that. So I said, it's th ropes and Gante' shoulder nudges him. No one budgets lock up. Sid shoved off into the ropes and Sid does a nice job kind of flailing about the ring like this guy's outpower. Sure, sure, that's up to the lock up and they break does he says he can move and he can do the road shuffle. Sid calls for the test of strength and kicks him in the gut when he goes for it, and he sells wobbling like he's in
the breeze fucking Aleciante. Man. His selling, like what is he doing? It's a it's a reminder of why it is embarrassing to be a wrestling fan totally. He sells like strikes like he's like he's a like a Halloween decoration. You put on stakes in your front lawn blows in the wind. You know, it's so awful. First whippon, he's so stiff. Oh is he ever? Like I never understood why people thought he was worth anything. Well you know what people thought that. I mean, I know why
they did. But his ability in the ring totally takes away from any sort of credibility from his size. Yeah, yeah, it's just not he doesn't have an athletic gift that it required that pro wrestling requires. You know, you can say, oh, he's this big, plus he's a basketball player, but the fact of the matter is basketball players who are that big don't have to be particularly good athletes. They really don't have to be right,
even though they are athletes. Yeah, it's it's really really bad. He does a clothes line an hour late, and Sid Bales Jr. Speaks of the tremendous tendon strength in the hands of the claw that El Giante is able to apply and say, they say it's beyond compare as Sid kicks him low. I think I think that was the idea. Gante leaps and turns with a grimace on his face, like he took a shot to the balls and then Sid starts kicking the legs of Gante and he bounces around like a clown.
He sells like he's tipping over gradually. Then Sid drives Gante in the corner and does the charge. Ghana gets the boot up and then puts the claw on, and that brings Sid down to the bat. Referee counts him down one, two three with the claw on Sid's head. You better believe Sid rolls the shoulder right after the three count slaps. But that's fine. And in two minutes, but no one went on a stretcher. No one went on a stretcher. That's exactly correct. You have correctly observed that,
and it's as absurd as your tone indicates, so stupid. There must have been some deal where they didn't think they'd be able to convince Sid to do a clean job to Guiante on the way out, so they found a gimmick match where they could work that if they had to. But ultimately Sid apparently agreed to do the honors in the middle. One two three, Giante gets the victory. That's all my supposition. By the way, I didn't read
that anywhere. Two minutes to thirteen seconds here Gante keeps the clawn for a while after the bell, and then here comes the One Man Gang with his afro and Kevin Sullivan to attack. Gante's throwing on him. Sully gets his back and Gante lips and dump Sully on the canvas and a clothes and he clothes lines Gang out into the ramp and they go over to the gurney and it's not easy to load one man Gang onto this fucking thing. Oh not
at all, one man gang anywhere. It's exactly right. He barely lifts him and gets him up on the stretcher, clubbing away, and then Sully throws powder and the eyes of Gyante, and one man Gang is able to slip off the gurney and tips over because he's so fat, and he just lands on his ass on the ramp. Stully starts whipping Giante with the chain and Gang hits him over the back with the gurney, and then Yante sells it like the wacky inflatable guy. And he's left there with the powder on
his face and watching them walk away like a complete dunce. It's so bad, and well, of course, sit sit nowhere to be found in the zip code. They immediately try to transition you into thinking of Gyante versus Gang and jars Is Gante proved he is the real giant. I don't know about that. Yeah, here I got this is this is just fucking horrible, and they Gante proving he is the real giant, or anywhere else a sports. As far as we've seen a great victory, we've seen the cloud youth,
but we also seen two other men. The man that says he is the real giant. We're talking about the one man game come in to try to take the glory from the giant. Elli gun day hit backfired on him. We haven't seen the last of this great two battle of this what great two battle? Okay, they cut this out of the Peacock version, but here they pitched to Gordon Soley in the control center going over the upcoming Great American Bash Tour, and they list all the cities the Bash is coming to
in typical Bash fashion. Remember this kind of surprised as an art of war games that there was more Bash tours with war games matches. After Dusty left and Needy eight and they come back some week, Piro is shooting off.
They cut that out, but it's the lowering of the cage the thunderdome cage for Ron Simmons versus Butcher Reid h And when it finally gets into position position, they hit the jazzy peppy music for the lethargic hacksaw Butcher Reid, who's massive but isn't making his way to the amount of intensity he is just it's it's not good. Is he a two time All American linebacker at Northeast Oklahoma, A and M a junior college power at minni Um, Oklahoma and an
NAILA All American? Is he? I didn't sure? Why not? The music continues as long as he makes the walk covering his ears, and cut to the horsemen esque college kids and suits and shades who have made it out there. They're in the crowd somewhere, and they cut away to them, and then Dusty starts talking about the seminoles and how Ron Simmons was a Heisman Trophy candidate at Florida State. Is a seminole. He's trying to pronounce that
correctly. Referee snatches Teddy Long and throws him into a bird cage. Part of this Thunderdome cage is that Teddy Long is locked up in one of those shark cages dangling above the ring. They start lifting the cage with him kicking inside. Teddy Long that is Jared says. They retired his jersey at Florida State University and wrestler. Of course, they retired his jersey at Florida State University. It's been documentary without it out is Bert Bryndle's favorite wrestler along the
South Florida State. But you know, talking about Bert Bryndals, I talked to him a little early. That's some great people here today, Jason Herbert's people all over here. One of years starts from all around the world. I had a fee that stay and this is one that came to see run Simmons three two et partners joined at it right inside the steel Keys. They retires him as jersey at Florida State. He was a sports illustrator defensive lime
another year. And this is going to be an old fashioned fight right here. I can guarantee you, alrighty, it's a lot of football credentials in one match for Jr. To sink his teeth into it. He's kind of having a feast right now. And yeah, I'll say Simmons had signed a one year renewal at one hundred eighty six grand according to the Observer, shortly before this show. So he's locked up and ready to go and certainly about
to become world upon as Bill Watts takes the book. Soon here enough, Dusty also shouts out Jason Hervey from The Wonder Years, acting like he's one of several big stars on hand, but names none other, no other, Like, dude, why why? Who cares? They just they're over the moon. Jason Hervey wants to come to their shows. They feel like it's
because Wonder Years is still a big deal at that time. Oh totally, I understand, I understand, but I mean, come on, I'm pretty sure this is the time Herty's dating Missy Hyatt as well, Missy Hyatt calling Jason Hervey the best boyfriend she ever had, but it only lasted about two years, and then after she breaks up with him pretty soon, Bischoff is involved in a sexual harassment complaint against her for circulating pictures of her coming out
of her top, allegedly an angle. So yeah, it'll leave Jason Hervey on Bischoff's watch, thank you very much. She gets correct teamed up with the nasties. But you can see Hervey earlier too, when Oz is coming down the ramp in the background, you can see where he's sitting next to the ramp. Big w W fans. So it's Simmons verse read here the cage is locked and exchange punches. What's that He's the fan, He's the fan. He's the fan, He's the one. He loved this the w
c W. Let's see. So Simmons drops him ducks and hits a big atomic drop and a Lariat's almost no reaction. They are not hot yet. Simmons is a baby face at all, not at all. He's he's not there yet. Irish Whip and uh, he just really read leaps into the cage. Let's see sidestepped and Simmons lawn darts himself into the wall for the business and starts panting on the canvas chair. Says no one in more cage matches in the Bayfront Center history than Dusty Rhodes, and he says that this
cage stuff is the most important dangerous match rather than pro wrestling. There's a corner to corner Irish Whip and butch Reds reversed into the corner and dropped on his head out of the frame with a big back suplex and then Simmons sends him into the wall again. Let's see Butcher Reid lifts a knee and the cameraman is in the cage by the way, within the walls of the cage shooting. So that that stood out to me because usually they're on the outs
can tell you something. Of course, Ron Simmons at this time had just turned thirty three. That's unfair. He's one of those wrestlers always looks like he's forty eight, always at least forty, if not more. But no, he's thirty three years old. He's a guy they call unc at the barbecue. He's always putting somebody in their place. Oh, I can't with that. I cannot. Simon's commands respect from the neighborhood, and he gets it. Ah, and pretty soon he's going to be commanding respect from Butcher
read as well. Read comes up the middle rope of an elbow drop on Simmons. That gets too and Ron Simmons is bleeding from the head and mouth. Jr. Says is Ron Simmons is running to the seal cage again, and it looks like Ron's head gets rammed in andy blades wide open right in the camera's view. With each time, with each impact, looks like a little nick to the forehead. Jar says that this is going to be the fourth quarter for him if he's not careful. Jr. It's not football?
Okay? Do I need to say this? Do I need to say it so plainly it appears I do. Why is it always football? Why can't it not be fine? Oh? God, damn it. They're two all Americans. Hawsman n aia. Well guess when I'm all American too? Make sure walk on. Most people from this country are all Americans. If you're born here, you're all American. What's the big deal? Idiot? So Red is peppering him with those punches. I guess that. I know. We're not like all American, not Native American. Can I get it?
I'm sure that's what he means. But we are all you know, if you get your you know, birth certificate or your Green card or whatever, you're all American. So take that. I can't take fat Jr. Nickpatrick presiding, So this thing's in good hands. Thank god. They shout up.
Butcher Read shouts up to Teddy long, don't worry about it. As he comes off the middle rope with an axe handle, and Jr. Says A Simmons has been battered in the early going here like like Dusty Rhodes is shrimp and Ron Ron Simmons goes for a drop kick, but Buttraid holds on. So Simmons crashes into the canvas Read with the fist drop and then Ron Simmons starts firing up. He whips Read forehead first into the cage and turns and Ron Simmons is shoving on him and shooting on him. It would hippear
Simmonson pulls on the waistband and into the wall goes Butcher Read buttrad. However, it comes back to hot shot. Ron Simmons throat first across the top cable. Would that be t be asked by the way the top cable, I guess it would be Read slams one Simmons out of the canvas cover one two nice over the shoulder shot of Jim Ross and Dusty Ringside looking on on
the cage as they're calling the action asch Read pile Dride. Ron Simmons a tough spike on that one that gets two Dusty says, it's four than one. Boss. I really again, I cannot Yeah, I cannot, Okay Jr. Says Ron Simmons. Coach the other day said Ron Simmons was the first franchise player at Florida State. Just he says all this stuff. I swear to god, I don't know anything about college football, so I can't
make this up even if I want to. All when you go that crazy about college football, guys, I hope you realize this, especially those who come from parts of this country where there aren't professional sports franchises like alib Bam in Oklahoma. Just screams they weren't good enough to be pros. That's all it says to us, right, right, you have to understand this. It's not like college football. Just to me, it's you know, I get the idea, and I've heard people say, oh, you know,
they've got so much heart. Yeah it's fine. You know, it's like watching them play the game. But they're children, their children, right, they're they're you're in wrestling, right, I want to know who the fucking the real one? He said, he's thirty three, right, Yeah, So when he was a Heisman finalist, he was like yeah, twenty early twenties, probably twenty two, whatever the fuck. I don't know, but
you're talking about ten years ago. You're talking about what he did. At least at least someone in your life walked around and talked about what they achieved in athletics when they were in high school and they're like third years old. But so many people do. It's like, but to say that on a national television broadcast, like like it's going to add to you. How serious do you take then? When you're not a college football nerds, so you
don't appreciate the relative impressiveness of what's being told. It's just it's insane. It's like no one ever gets any NAIA whatever for basketball or baseball or I mean, it happens. But I'm in wrestling, you know, And that's probably because so many more football players gravitate to pro wrestling than anything else. But I'm just I'm here to tell you that that's how that lands. It's different with amateur wrestling because of course this is the pros right right in the
Olympic Elympics. We're working pro style here. I don't know, I just it really hit me in this match, as you can imagine it's frustrating. I mean, it's very frustrating. It's I'm with you. So Butchered then pulls back on the ropes with Simmons throat on it, so he takes the big bump and then he laun darts Ron Simmons into the cage wall. Reid is now peppering it with jabs as Ron Simmons is selling almost like a boxer like Apollo Creed going down cover one two go, Ron Go, Chance starts
a little bit of support for Simmons. Is the match unfold. Simmons it dands back and it's elbows gets free from a sleeperhold and he whips by Butcher Read and catches him with a swinging neckbreaker, and then Butcher Reid goes up top and does a shoulder tackle to get two on Simmons. Then Butcher Read
splashes him across the knees. It goes for a splash, but Simmons gets the knees up and he comes up throwing hands and a backdrop and a whip is reversed and a high knee drop from Butcher Reid cuts off Ron Simmons come back attempt there and then a whip and a double lariat, both men down in the center of the ring, and Teddy Long at this point throws something into the ring from the opening at the bottom of the shark cage that he's in, and some pretty nice camera work as they knew it was coming and
cut right to the circle to see it fall into the cage. Simmons reaches for whatever it was, but Butcher Reid cuts him off with stomps. Read gets his hands on whatever it was, and we learned it's a steel chain that he wraps around his fist, but before he can hit Simmons with it, Simmons ducks and scores with a big time spinebuster for the one, two,
and three. Thank fucking price on Simmons pins. Butcher read nine minutes and thirty nine seconds and the Thunderdome cage match, and Teddy longs up there throwing a fit stomp and his feet Klondike Bill siting at ringside, and that's this is one of the I mean, it just was not It just was not not really No, that's all I can really say about. It just was not on their way. But Read wasn't a hot heel, so no
one was excited to see Simmons kick his ass, not at all. Jaron dusties his four men traveling mates, training mates, being the best of way. By the way, here Jr Does jes explain, does tell me blah blah blah. He sums up my thoughts on this fucking match. What a tough match. This was not so tough as Luger and Staying versus the Steiners to about how to beat their friends tonight. But it's about being the best of what you do. And I don't believe it's going to be friend against
friend. I believe it's going to be everyone going for the gold. Jared thinks we're going to see a very competitive situation tonight between Steiner's and Luger and Sting. They play the aforementioned video that's like slow motion with Sting and Luger and the Steiners making the ring walk hitting their big offense, showing them celebrating
with championship belts from New Japan and WCW. Sure, so it's supposed to be sort of like this music video that inspires you to think of these guys as a great high achieving sportsman or whatever the case might be, which they are, which they are high achieved they are high. That's for sure. Before slam Jan. It's before man called Sting. So we get so we get hang hang Hang hang ye, you know the dang hang hang hang hang hangs. It's almost like curiously, uh what should we call it? Oh?
God, damn it. It's almost like, uh, I have a tiger in some ways. Yes, that's true. It's got some similarities to that. We have a cutaway to some fans in the audience holding up Glube action figures of Sting and Rick stein or there we go. Yep, I'm okay with that. So this is glub Eric confirmed. Luga comes out and blew trunks with the US title and Stinging red and yellow, and they almost get hit by Sparklers on the way down because they're walking shoulder to shoulder next
to each other and they're a little too wide for the ramp. Luga gets annoyed and brushes some off his shoulder. And here comes the Steiners to some pop Sizzlers and their Michigan jackets, and they're the most decorated team and rest WCW Wrestling according to the announcers, And there's plenty of signs for Steiner's in the crowd. They can cut away too, and a T shirts as well. So here we go. This is it Sting and Lex Luga versus the Steiner Brothers at super Brawl one. Yeah, I mean, this is this
is this is all you need right here. Honestly, this makes the show worthwide. Reed. It's wild. It's a wild, wild match, and it's a testament to both to all four men, both teams that they're able to go the way they go. It's really it's really wild. They do an incredible job. Dusty says, if ever there was a main event, this is it. And I'm thinking this isn't even the main event, Dusty, I know. So they shake hands, Luger and Rick gets started.
They lock up in a break and circling and again to the ropes they go on the tie up, really intense lock ups here between these two, and Rick is trying to kind of shoot low and get in on Luger. Luger gets under him in the corner, and Randy Anderson calls for a break and gets it. There's clean breaks with the baby faces really clutch. Very important. That's right, that's right, very important. They listen, they're not
enemies, all right. They like each other. They're all friends, they respect each other, and they want to beat each other fair and square. There's no point to it otherwise they want those bragging rights. Lock up Luger with the arm drag. They mentioned how Steiner's won the cup back at Starcade and the IWGP tag champ. Subsequent to that, Rick to the waistlock takedown, Luger gets the ropes clean break lock up in a side headlocked by Luger
takedown. Rick answers with the head scissor back up double legg nice by Rick Steiner to a takedown. He gets waiste control. Luger scrambles to the ropes, knowing he's in a vulnerable college wrestling possession against Rick Steiner. Lock up Rick with the side headlock. Luger gets to the ropes to break that clean break for everybody once again, as Luca does the lock upside headlock push off and Rick leaps into a shoulder tackle like he was going for a forearm,
but Luger kind of walked through it. Luger then with a whipping a nice power slam on Rick Steiner gets to Luga with the corner to corner. Whippy gets sidestepped and Rick launches a German release supplex on Luga. He gives them. Rick fucking buys Luger that one way ticket on Luthan's the Germany very much, jay or so to talk about how it's getting intense, and then he screams and he gets it. He's Stanner line. You see, this is
great. I have what I love about this. Matches like this I love Okay, when they start off the way that this one started off, like some chain grappling feeling each other out, they often leave a hint of something lurking underneath that's ready to explode it And in this case we're looking to explode. Is the fucking power soup plays of the Steiner brothers. Yes, and there it is. They come month covered by Rick gets too quote to corner
whip, Luger hits and takes a backdrop. Rick with the corner to corner on Luger. Luger comes firing out and early turns Steiner inside out. Rick Steiner almost moonsalted selling this clothes line from Lugar lands on his head. Fuck it Luga with a whip in a high guerrilla press to a pop on Rick Steiner tag to the Stinger, who goes wild with the running clothes on. Rick goes out of the ring. Sting then, fuck this, you know
what I mean? Like, Sting says, you know what, if I'm going to add two and a half starts to the match, this is how you do it. He lunges clears the top rope with a wonderful planche as only Sting could execute at the heavyweights. And it's insane. It's insane, just like you just expand so you think it's possible. All of a sudden, yep, yep, and he clears the top. Dusty's voice is cracking at the spectacular and his stuff that these announcers can really feel how special this
thing is. Sting rolls Rick back into the ring, and Dusty says,
there's nothing like it in the world. It's World Championship Wrestling. Staying with the running Bulldog plants Rick Steiner, but Rick pops up and barks in his face, so Sting hooks him does a power bomb over the shoulder position, but Rick, with his headpiece coming off, fights hard, and finally Sting just screw this and runs Rick Steiner upside down, crotch first into the corner, just like Scott used to do, and it's a fucking rough landing for
Rick Steiner. Man, I would not want to see this. They go, They fucking go. Sting like loses his footing at the last minute, so Rick kind of goes uncontrolled into that corner, staying, then leaps but misses the splash. Jay I recalls Sting and and other partners in the past. I'm not sure what the reference to is there anyway, Scott h boss, I mean, you're ready, You're ready, take it away, You're
ready. Scott Steiner gets the fucking tag and things reach a whole new level of intensity, all right, zero to you know what pumps through his veins. You know that he he's not gonna stand by and let shit be anything less than one hundred percent in tense. If the opportunity presents itself with willing with willing dance partners, we need butterfly suplex transition into slam and we get after he hits it. We need Scott to run around screaming like he just
basically killed ten people in the battlefield. And then we need tilt a whirl slam and the crown the crowd do you know what they are? They are hungry for pure wrestling action. They are hungry, he'll go SUPs. Come on, well, he is competitive, he is all right. That says a physical matchup. The hell I'm that stander? He locked luck here, David, Yes, yes, give me more of that until the day I fucking die. Say. The crowd is in SCE over the ship. It's
so it's it's it's unbelievable. It's like a whole the whole fucking thing, the whole show, like the whole mood changes. It's unbelievable. Playing again, Listen closely for when Scott drops an F bomb because he just can't contain how how high he's going. He's well, he is competitive, he is all right. That says a physical matchup. The hell, I'm staterf he locked? He locked here? Baby? Yes, dust And I love how Dusty, who couldn't do any of this, still loves it. You know
I did. I like that about Dusty a lot like he can. Yes, he's not like Nash. He's not gonna watch something he can't do and shot on it because he can't do it, you know, right, and act like it's wrong. He's he fucking he can tell that these guys are striking a chord with this audience, and he's happy to see it to play out in his ring. Scott Steiner, I mean that's one of the most intense in ring moments I've ever seen and all my years watching ye oh,
absolutely, it's unbelievable. Something about the way he comes in and just says, you know this is going, this is going really well, but you don't. You haven't seen intensity. If you guys want to actually allow me to come up to this level and of intensity, I'm gonna do it. You know, like, this isn't appropriate in every match, but the mood was right for him to come in and just go nuts. It was totally
there. It was yep, yep. One point, I just typed like I just started hitting all the keys, says e K J j K. I fitting sitting here going nuts. This is why we watch wrestling hard stop. Oh for sure, no question. So yes, Scott going knots reversed whip and Sting sends Scott Steiner into a hot shot into the ropes and the crowd explodes. The Sting comes back on Scott tag to Lugar Lucre suplex to Scott Steiner tag Sting baby Face for his baby face. This is it.
This is Exhibit A. Steiner comes alive with an inverted atomic drop and he purchasing in the top rope and he climbs and he hits up belly to belly overhead toss yes, yes, and Sting goes for the ride cover one two not enough. Steiner purchased him. Hits the ropes and lunges, but no one home and Scott Steiner soars over the ropes and his feet end up landing
on the ringside announced table of Jim and Dusty. Luga then hooks up Scott Steiner outside in from the apron to the middle of the ring with the vertical suplex one two, so damn close as you can hear. The announcers adjust their headsets. Tremendous condition, desire and strength prevented the pin, We're told Luga the whip. Steiner goes over the top and a wonderful takedown almost like as I got Fireman's carry with an arm outside like an angle slam that he
does. I don't know what it was. It was awesome, though I never saw Scott do that before. I don't even think since Steiner with the whip reversed and Lex Luger hits a power slam on Scott. Steiner signals for the torture rack and he does the side Russian leg sweep instead, but then he kind of sells it like he had the side Russian lake sweep done to
him, does Luger. It's kind of a miscue. Yeah, it's I mean, listen, it's it's not perfect, right, but I don't care, right, But that's kind of that's the kind of match where it not being perfect actually kind of works because they're just doing shit to each other as fast and hard as they can, just try to get that victory. There's a headlock push off. Rick Steiner gets the blind tag as Luger drops Scott, and then he eats a bulldog as Rick Senter attacks him from the blind
spot off the top row. Fuck this just fucking nails him with it. Nick drops and elbow gets two on Sting on Luger. Sting flies in under the corner of your screen with the miss dropkick on Wreck. I mean, these guys are taken off from so many angles. It's such a fast clip that they're just entering the frame like the directors don't even have time to catch up to what they're doing. Stein are not aware that Sting had made the tag. Jr. Says as Rick attacks Sting as he exits, Rick slucking
it out with Lex Luger side headlock push off. Rick ducks two, and Rick comes off the ropes with his back to Luger and Luger runs him in, runs into him, and they bonk Head's chaos madness. Dusty makes a great point, both men, Now we know that both teams are tired and they need to get some type of offensive game plan going here. If it's still in the process of a game plan. The mistakes too. You know,
one thing I realize is the match went on. The mistakes actually added to the to the to the match because because everything's so fucking intense, frenzied pace, they're just grabbing whatever they can and trying to smash the guy. You know, it's not it's not like it detracts from from what we're watching. Yeah, it's like it doesn't cross the wrestler's boss to do things in a pretty or perfect way to get you know, points for clean execution.
Right, They're just grabbing whatever in their bag of tricks they can think of. That's worked before and using it on each other, and they're doing it in rapid succession. But yeah, the direct quote from Dusty I swear to God is now we know that both teams are tedious, they're tired tedious, and they need to get some type of offensive game plan going here. If it's still in the process of a game plan, Okay, Lugar gets the tag. Steiner does too, Scott that is, and they slug it out,
sting ducks. Luger hits Scott Steiner with no control whatsoever and drops some of the back suplex. He lifts him up and almost loses him. It's kind of a it's a bad back suplex like. Steiner just goes up like a sack of potatoes, but his legs aren't hooked at all. It's all the waist. Yeah, but down he goes, staying with some right hands to the ropes. They go whipping and drop down and Steiner nails him Scott
that is, with a clubbing shot. Scott Stenner then puts him in the tombstone pile driver position, but Sting one of his classic moves kicks to reverse the pile driver position the tombstone position and drops Scott Steiner dead on his fucking head. Dead dead happens, That's what happened. The head wasn't protected at all. Sting really didn't know how to do this move and he can.
Sting collapses on Scott when it comes into break. It's fucking insane. It's just NonStop, like there's no there's no rest in this whole thing, you know, and you I don't know wrestlers do that. Well, maybe it's because you know, the office discourages it that that's not really the way to kind of preserve everybody's well being, to raise the audience's expectations to this degree, and these guys go out there and just fucking do it, and we're
still talking about it all these decades later. It turns out you can just do it if you want. They still want to, right, bring it this way, study this match, give it to us on Monday night. Not hard, hard in your body. You know. I don't want you to do it every week, but do it. Yeah, I mean I don't want you to do stuff right, But excuse me, it's it's it doesn't seem to be. I'm not saying it's easy, but I think it's
not that it's also note as hard as maybe you think. And we're talking these guys are doing some really high impact shit, right, but you know the stuff they're doing is done so well. It's not done right, and it's not done for the sake of for the sake of Like if you will shock high risk again, I go for I'll go back to fucking idiot Seth Rollins and his stupid fucking moves that he does that really don't make sense.
And that's what it comes down down too. He does moves again the Superplex, into the into the falcon Arrow. Okay, because because it involves himself too in it is what makes it really really weak, because Scott Steiner does moves that don't affect him. You know, if they don't know, he never lands on his back. The fucking double underhook supplex into the slam and
the tilt the World Slam don't affect him whatsoever. Did the middle wal belly to belly supplex it kind of is similar, but not not quite as bad. No, his overhead belly to belly is is money. It's it's protective. It's like it doesn't and moves have impact. If it does impact him, he sells it, And you know, wrestling, we've we've said it a million times. Less is more in wrestling. You don't need to keep going, going, going, doing all this crazy ass shit just for the
sake of doing it because nobody else did before you. I think what can do stuff particularly important is that, like ahead, that you can do less and make it more impactful if you believe it and believe in it and make it look good. Let us believe in it, right, let us believe that if something looks massively impactful and powerful, that that's the end of the fucking match. What's key is that this is a tag match, and yes, a lot of the things these guys are doing are only not the finish
because there's another person in there to break it up. And that's what allows it to be so app going high attack that a rapid pays, but that never strains credulity, It never hurts your believability of the match in terms of a guy kicking out in a one on one scenario, in a move that should kill him, because the only reason they're still fighting, and it's part of what makes a tag team match more epic in a lot of cases than a singles match is that there was another person in there to say, Nope,
that's not ending the night tonight. And so you have to come up with all this other stuff to explain how you neutralize the other guy to prevent the winning pinfall from being broken up as well, and that and within the FTR is absolutely excellent at that coming up with like those last minute kind of flurries of activity where the guy on the other side is is somehow prevented from breaking up that winning pin cover even though the finish plausibly should have been four
or five six moves ago. When it's one on one, it gets a little more ridiculous because then it's just about the supernatural ability of the guy taking the move to kick out, and that gets really hokey. But if you've got a tag situation like this man, you can do so much in such a short period of time and keep the match believable due to that factor of the other man. And it's here. It's here, So the tombstone kills
him dead. As we mentioned, Rick gets the break, and when he does that, the referee's had enough and he grabs rick Stein or he's trying to, you know, kind of force him out of the ring. Luger's over there and he gets sandwiched on the on the charge between Rick stein Or and the referee, and so Randy Anderson is left sort of hanging upside down in the ropes, falling out of there, hitting the floor. Sting then puts Scott Steiner under the corner and hits the big splashes. Rick and Luger
brawl outside. Then comes Nikita call off out of the shadows. He does the running sickle from the ramp to the back of Sting's head and you know, to the front of Sting's face. What happens is He's going to hit the Luger with the Russian sickle. Sting pushes Luger out of the way and takes the move and Sting is out cold. Nikita takes off Scott stein recovers Sting one two. He wolves him with a with a Russian chain too,
Russian chain, did he have it loaded chain? Believed a Russian chain, which you know Russian chain is made with different metal, yeah, harder metal than than American chain. Right, their uranium exporters, they have all kinds of natural roles and resources. Though we don't necessarily have an American manufacturing it makes a ton of sense, and yeah, that's enough to get Sting covered.
One, two, three, The Steiner Brothers defeat Rick Steiner, pardon me, Lex Luger and Sting and eleven minutes and nine seconds at SuperBrawl won great match to finding tag Match of the nineties and a lot of ways for
these guys. And you know, Nikita would go on to say that he didn't intend to hit Sting, and Sting doesn't believe him, and so Nikita becomes kind of a righteous heel from there who was trying to win stings affection, and then, you know, one too many times does he accidentally hit Staying and we realize he's just an asshole, just a Sting bust that open
all four incredulous as to what happened. Scott checking on Sting. They don't hate each other after the match, they're checking on each other, thank you very much, and let's see. He asks towards runs backstage, asked Nikki to call off. What happens, Sting says, Nikita says Stings in the wrong place, in the wrong time, and then Staying actually catches up to him and nails him from behind and they brawl like crazy. Back there. It looks like a real fight. It does. It looks like a very
good real fight. No one's going oh oh and getting run into a wall or thrown into a tackle box. Oh, I's sa guys. Look. I mean, I don't want you guys to get hurt. But that's the beauty of making a brawl look like a real brawl. It's hardly getting of the punch's land because you're in close quarters and it's mostly pulling and tugging, and you know, you get people in there to break it up so that you don't look so foolish. You know, a nut landing something impactful,
but you're supposed to just go nuts try to kill the guy. You're not supposed to like grab him by the back of the head and run him into a wall. That's so fucking hockey. I always think about, you know, when it comes to backstage brawls, I always think about how they kind of you know, we were watching I don't remember what episode of TNA it was we watched, but it was something with Kurt Angele fighting somebody in the
back, and it was just like I just felt so embarrassed. I felt so like h like cringey and the fact that is it when he runs up on the head quarters. No, not that one. It was before that. It was like earlier on I think, and he was fighting somebody in the locker room, and it was just like it just felt weird. I was like, this is a grown man who's having a fake fight. Exactly. It's just to keep it close. You have to never stop throwing punches.
No whips or Irish whips. No throwing people into gearboxes or smacking their head against something like you would smack their head into the turnbuckle in a ring. None of that. You just grab at each other, you never let go of either guy's clothing, and you just throw punches. That's all you have to do. Yeah, seriously, guys, stop making a fucking mockery of things that are supposed to be heightened intensity angles. Stop making them look
like your standard issue phony wrestling match. It's the point of the angle is it's supposed to be. Outside of that, the match couldn't contain the physical hatred between you two. So it spills through the front glass door and they end up in the parking lot of the Bayfront Center. You can see it's kind of rain slicked out there and Nikita with the chain and Sting comes up with a chair over his head like he's gonna kill him, and you hear
some screaming, and that's the that's the end of that. Yeah, And Dusty says, it's the greatest tag team match I've ever witnessed back at ringside, and that's a big that's probably a shoot in his mind. Yeah, I would imagine taken for a ride as the TV titles on the line now, Bobby eating to face TV champion Arn Anderson for the strap. Eaton comes out. Of course they're not express music dubbed over here, and they talk about how Eaton is going after the first major singles title he's ever had,
and and here we go. They talk about how the TV title is the best Dubby Stubby title because how often the guy has to defended. He makes a claim for that. Bobby chant humble young man from Huntsville is Dusty says. Part of tonight tonight being the greatest professional wrestling in the world is on display here. Arn versus Bobby Eaton both have extensive scouting reports on each other. We're told where they got those from, maybe a third party firm,
maybe Deloitte. I can see I can see Arnie Anderson, okay, wearing like a white polo shore with his glasses on and in a you know, a pencil in his ear, and he's like just kind of sitting back with his feet up on a table and he's watching ta studying scouting. Absolutely, yeah, right, yes, that's what I picture. They do. Headlock takeover answered by rewind it. See how he carries his left hand low on that entry. Just get behind him, are and he's never going to be
able to catch up to you. And he's ours all day that that right side is open all day. Oh god, if you work the arm enough, he's not going to be able to even block the left side either, you know. And and and Bobby Eaton, if he works the arn enough, he might win the match. If he works the arn enough, he might convince him that he's his best friend for most of their adult lives.
Actively he stopped talking forever. Brother. So there's a headlock, answered by his his re spot three times in succession, and Eaton pops him on the fourth with a right hand, dropping him as he goes to do it again, which is very nice. Jars. There's a tremendous contingent of press from around the world to observe the Fujinami Flair main event, and it says still
to come the greatest ever from Japan. D't semi Fujinami. Arn't, I can't believe how hard he was hit, sells it beautifully by Bobby eat and it looks at his hand and then Eaton tries to close in and wi him. Arn't kicks him in the gut, so he was definitely selling how out of sorts he was. Rakes the eyes of Eaton across the top rope to
the corner. Double A goes to the gut, left hands corner to corner reversed, and Anderson goes to the middle rope and leaps over Eaton, who kicks him coming in in the corner and throws a hard larry at dropping Arn. Anderson cover gets two for Bobby Eaton. Bobby slaps the armbar onto the ropes. They go or senior official and Nick Patrick, assigned to the contest, gets involved as Arn slug on the brake. Eaton goes to the floor. He pulls him up and into the post goes Bobby Eaton. It's a
weird eclectic group of fans sitting in ringside on the hard camera. For sure. You got a pair of like bodybuilding looking guys, you get a woman, and then you get Paul Bearer. Were so it sh right? I missed that guy. Yeah, the guy looks like Paul Barry. Yeah, this was a guy looks like Pan News too. It was funny when they
mentioned I was like, maybe p and News actually in the crowd. No, So Anderson goes out there and takes the right hand even climbs and Anderson cut him off with an irag and a rocket launches Bobby from the top of the ramp. Yeah, he like grabs him from the ropes, kind of gives him the gorilla press where Eaton comes from the top down out of the ramp, but he doesn't fluck flip, He just lands on his face.
Anderson goes to pile drive eating on the ramp, but it's blocked, and Anderson takes a perfect backdrop on the ramp and then arm charges and he's backdrop back into the ring. Eaton climbs the top rope and comes off the top of a black handle that gets two on the champion. He can goes to
the armbar and a hammerlock? What is this? Punk house Stampede Jr. Jr. Quotes Gordon Soley, I'll describing the match here as our friend and colleague, the dean of wrestling announcers, Gordon Sully has said so many times it is a game of human chess and these are two great chess masters. If that illustration is true, and I believe that it is, Thanks Jim back up double a slapping the shoulder to get that one of the better things
he fucking said on this night. Yeah, that's pretty good, usual garbage from It's a weird point in time when Gordon was like fifth string announcer in WCW. But they all like swoon over him and make constant reasons to him. If he's the fucking greatest of all time, why isn't he calling this pay per view? Why is he calling every pay per view? Pretty much is my question. I know he is, like he seriously is like fucking
fifth string announcer. What a sad, sad day. Yeah, he just he doesn't have the he doesn't have the gusto for a national wrestling TV announcer that the nineties was looking for. He was much more kind of cerebral and cronkite like, which was perfect for the seventies and somewhat for the eighties. But in WCW he was never you go. You could feel him forcing the enthusiasm. It didn't come natural to him unless he was seeing something. It was very exciting in front of his eyes. He still should be on.
I mean, I get it, I get the idea. Maybe he wouldn't be your main guy, but he still could be. You know, I think he would have worked very well in a in a three man booth. Sure, you know, as you're straight play by play guy, you know kind of you know, kind of like the six Vince Jr. And King situation where you get you know, you get you get this. The neutral Gordon Soley when you have a baby face and you got a heel, I'm
doing color commentary would be that would be work for with him. I think I think that would work great because because you you wouldn't he wouldn't need to go kind of crazy enthusiastic. You could just be that guy. But the play by play guy interesting, I can see that working like the Mike Tine booth they used to have. I don't like that. Yep, back up
double a slapping his shoulder to leave the pressure of the hammerlock. He finally gets a counter and that allows him to break and Nick Patrick and SERTs himself. And this is when Arne Anderson slugs Eating over the referees back and slaps Eaton's knee into the post. I think it's a big time sell at a Bobby Eaton alb m jam can't work with one leg, if the announcers are
keen to point out. As Arne digs his knee into knee of Eaton, he posts it again and does kind of a step over grape vine leg hold, grabbing the ropes for leverage behind the referees back as well as arn Anderson. But by the way, the four horseomeners still kind of loosely affiliated at this time. Of course, Sides was excommunicated and because he was on his way out, but Flair and arn Anderson we're kind of still like running mate
and Barry Wyndham at this point in time. So arn Anderson shakes his head. No, no, I wasn't using the ropes for the leverage. You know how that game goes. Jrs's Dusty needs a tell us straighter because he's explaining all these things that would benefit from being able to draw on the screen, and Dusty says, yeah, here I am. I'm pointing my finger on the monitor here, but nothing's happening. He's pointing at the screen while
they're commentating. That's fun to think about. Not probably not the first time that's happen where he's putting up the screen. Nothing's happening. Bobby Eaton kicks Arn Anderson off into the corner to get him off his leg, and he rams his head ten times into the buckle on every pad. Very nice. Anderson slugs from his knees, gets on him, drags his legs to the apron, and rams him down to the canvas. Bobby gets one leg up
and he's throwing big downtown right hands. Arn Anderson does this amazing pose like he's gonna fall with one arm in the air because he's getting so rocked. He like free freezes in a state of like collapse, and another from Eaton drops Anderson. Anderson picks the ankle though, and drops an elbow and goes right back to work on the leg. He drapes the leg on the rope and sits on at his eat and goes off with the yelps the big cane. Anderson tries a suplex, but it's blocked, and Bobby does a suplex
after the side he sells the knee. He just couldn't put a perfect suplex because the knee is tweaked, because because you see, you know why, because Bobby Eaton spent years in the library very much taking notes what was his major finals? Because he has a PhD in ring Psychologyy clear about that? All right? Imagine Bobby Eaton like fucking three am and a library. Yeah, studying biophysics never happened. Like, what really would happen if I tried
to suplex a guy and this tendon was compromised? Right? Exactly which direction would I go? Exactly? With the sack of potatoes fall exactly? You could tell the suplex wasn't perfect. And you're like, of course it's Bobby Eaton. It was for a reason. And Anderson, after taking that weekend version of the suplex, way to readound quickly and get right back on the knee. Yes, Bessy says, heat needs to make a spectacular move to get out of the position he's in, and uh, he doesn't do anything
spectacular. He just kicks option three times and gets free. Yeah, nothing spectacular, really kept throwing those hooks. Double A cuts him off, snap mayor a middle rope vader bomb attempt by arn Anderson, but he lands across the knees of Bobby eaton a lariat and Arne Anderson come. Lariot is ducked and arn Anderson comes with a damn fine spinebuster on Bobby eating for two. Yeah, but Nick Patrick had his hand underneath eaten shoulders. Good point,
do you know what? Not even like checking it. It was just like there, it was just underneath. Fucks up again. Yeah, he just details he's such a fucking loser. He's such a fucking loser. Dust He said, he reached way down some of that Alabama pride right there to kick out to Bobby eating double a with sort of like that Ted Tobassy bump where you come off the top of the double axe but someone punches you in the stomach and your front flip. Yep, yep. I love that good stuff
here from from Arn. He's in a vulnerable position as Bobby hits a running neckbreaker on a body's lamb, and Dustin sing he can't go up to the top he's got the bad knee, but Bobby does just that, selling in the process. Suddenly Barry Wyndham comes out and Brian Pillman comes out and cuts him off with a headband covering the wound on his forehead from earlier, and that creates the opening. Windham's not able to stop Bobby Eating from launching and
he does the top rope Alabama Jam. Leg Drop lands on double A, the covers one, the covers two, and the covers three and eleven minutes and fifty seconds, Bobby Eaton wins his first singles title in WCW, taking the TV strap off of Arn Anderson as super Brawl one. Thank you very much. That's wild, that's wild, good stuff. It was good. It was good. I feel it had got a bad rap. I read some reviews about it and it wasn't very popular. I thought this was a
good just a fine man good. And they kind of missed the Alabama Jam on the alive take, but the replay shows that it was just a beautiful hanging time. It was flying leg drop is only he could do, and he's handed the belts and he hoists them up and Jared says, for all those that said he was a tag team wrestler and nothing else. Read him in Wheat people going and that is that. We show a clip of Tony
Shavanni with Fujinami behind a locker room door backstage. You hear a lot of people conversing in Japanese, and Tony is wondering if we can end the controversy tonight. He's looking for a word. He talks about how it all started
on March twenty first, and how Flair came back with the championship. We see Fujanami getting his ring robe on, and indeed addition Yahashimoto and Masato and Hiro Matsudo with him, Heira Matsuda of course, along ally of Eddie Graham and Dusty Rhodes and Antonio Anoki. So wherever huts Hiro Matsuda goes, a new Japan partnership is sure to follow. There we go and the vow from Hero talks go ahead. Tony talks to him. Yeah, he does. Here, he gets a hold of him and we get a quick little thing.
Mister Matts, let me ask you a question. Can you give us some sort of statement as you go out? Now? Yeah, we're going to take that best back to Japan. That's been wrong with us. Well, that's just about says it all. They are going to bring the belt back to Japan. Thanks Tony, Thanks Tony. Thanks for the WCW World Heavyweight Championship. They don't call it the NWA World Heavyweight Championship. They have
now stopped using all those initials all together. Started in about nine ninety one, actually is when they really scrubbed that out, when Dusty came in. Not to say he authored it, but I think that was the timetable. So the geisha girls come out throwing flower pedals down for Tatsumifu Junami's entrance,
they cut to a sign in Japanese. Who knows what it says. There's a wrestling fan, a long time at Atlantic area fan from Greensboro named John Hitchcock, who is one of the more prominent Crocket era and area fans, who Tony on his podcast spotted in the crowd, and I think he said he was one of the gentlemen holding up a Japanese character sign. Doesn't help
though in terms of what it sells on the sign. But yeah, Hitchcock actually wrote a book about being a wrestling fan called front Row Section D Glory Days from Atlantic Wrestling and one of the signs he used to hold up and support of the Horsemen. He was well known as one of those guys that would show up and cheer the heels and shoe the horsemen. One of the signs of red four horsemen fingers on it, and it says you can tell
the wrestler by looking at his blubber. I was about it was about about one wrestler in particular, and here comes Tetsumi Fujinami, the i WGP Heavyweight champion Jr. Sissa that luth Is called Fujinami one of the greatest of all time as they set off sparklers, and Jar says, this man is a household world when you speak of wrestling in Japan, which is not exactly true. Dusty likens him to Willie Nelson. And who was Lesius? Okay, who wasn't that great? He was. He was a huge star and a
wonderful pro wrestler. But household name, I think is taken a little too far, a little too far. Okay. He wasn't an Oki, he wasn't Baba. He wasn't Murky Dozan or the Destroyer or Freddie Blassie. You know, there's no like massive you know, TV number associated with him or anything like that. So, uh, which I'd put him in that.
You know, he's like wick at Chow Shoe Maiday, just kind of a step below but kind of a that that level those nineties headliners that you know, Missawa like, I don't think you'd call him Missawa a household name. You wouldn't call him a household name, really, I don't think so. Because of the way wrestling was distributed at the time he was on top. You know, it was well attended and business was hot and they could fill domes, but it wasn't broadcast on television in a way where you could put
him in a category of like everyone knew who he was. I could be wrong about that, but that's not my my my conception of him. He was damn close because he was kind of like, you know, Sharuda was Giant Bob Is understudy, and Sharuda passed the torch to Missawa. To the degree to which people followed that closely, you would think of Missaua as a massive deal. But I think there's a lot of attrition of the fans over those generational turnovers. Wow so they sing yeah, yeah, So they show
flair and the women taking their position to the top of the rampus. Fujinami's introduced, and then they hit kind of like a gladiator music. It kind of sounds like the Indiana Jones. The fuck was this? I'm not okay with this music now. I think it came around the time that Rick started thinking he was going to change him to Sparta Kiss and all that bullshit. It's like the only like twist of the character of the movie. He came out. There's a guy with a chef hatt and a maid and a butler.
I know he's got a hole, Like yeah, his whole entourage of serving there turning it into a cartoon. They're trying to yes and he's taking off his rolex and putting it down on a silver serving tray at the at the top of the aisle, and there's a lady in waiting and a cook. This whole like little mini entourage meets him as he steps out. Lay music Sparklers not epic at all, Flair with the big old bell and under
the rope on the waist and awful stuff. It's really an awful position that he's been put in, and I'm ashamed of Jim Hurd, I mean Flair's hair here. Oh, it's really impressive how he was able to grow his hair back almost normal, not fully there. But if you look at his first entrance into the his first appearance that would be in September, we're talking only like a four month turnaround, and his hair was almost you know,
normalish. Yeah it was. It was like short, but not like not like eighty nine long, you know the way it was, but like you know, it was you know, it didn't look awful. And why Jim Hurd, who I'm assuming is the reason he cut his hair like this thought this made him look at a younger than how his hair used to be. It blows my mind. Makes him look that much older, makes him look like a i don't know, like a like a CFO as opposed to like
this hot show. I mean, he looks he just looks like a like Oh, his hair looks like an attempt to be one of the models you would see in in a like at a hair salon. Right, how do you want your hair to look like at the You know that's good, that's that's true. Or Jr. Talks about how Dori Funk beat Kiniski and I think this building for the championship, and how in seventy nine Roads beat Race for the championship. Everybody fucking wont everybody everyone won a championship in this okay.
So Flair peels the belt off, hands it off to the ref. The hair is a problem. It's full buffont almost here, and there's Japanese ref taggertory, and there's the American ref bill A Fonso back inside of the contest and manyment time Flair versus tuts in me Fujinami for the w s W Championship. Lock up in a headlock, and Fujinami, with a tackle down, goes Flair lock up. Fujinami goes to the hammerlock and Flair answers with a great drop toe hold. They grapple on the canvas a bit and Janai
slips free and Flaire gives him a bit of a woo. Jara calls the one hundred and sixty pound Fujinami debuted in the pros as a junior heavyweight, but it's now with a solid two forty look lock up into the ropes. Flair wanted the referee to hold the front face lock or something went one in order one another. I don't know what that. They don't know whatever he was trying to do. Fujinami counters it with the hammer lock and they do
the sit out and they go from that to into the corner. There's a picture on the cover of the Top fifty Wrestlers of All Time by John Mulnaro hardcover book that is this moment in this match when they're these two are in the corner grappling. H Yeah, I recognized its, Like why did I Why did that little snap moment there strike me as familiars. That's very funny. So Flare slugs over the top and lands a big chop in the corner.
Those brutalized the pectoral region in Japan when he landed them. Jim Ross told us. They start exchanging along the ropes and Fujinami whips Flair to the corner, hits a big backdrop up and the lights goes the nature Boy, thanks Jr. For that thinking saying up in the lights when a backdrop is high. That came from him buried in my mind and I don't know why I say it, but that's why that's funny. But Johnny whipps Flair into
a drop toe hold. He goes grapevinds the leg and as the surfboard bow and arrow submission on Flair, Jarre calls out that, of course Flair broke his back in the airplane crash, so this kind of a submission really is effective on him, as he says, I tried that, and he's got a great conditioning. I tried to attack the back all the years I wrestled him, and it didn't seem to make a difference. You know why,
because it's all fairly moves. Yeah, there you go. Phenamic kicks off, charges into a jack knife cradle, but no, Flare ends up on top. In the exchange one two, they kind of messed that that whole spot up. Yeah, just the whole thing. This is where it just kind of gets sloppy. Flair chops him and Fujanami answers this one drops natured
boy. Fujinami turns Flair over in the Boston Crab. There's oh gods, gods, uh oh yah, pagenomic grape vines the leg instead of the instead of the Boston crab, and then he falls back and cranks, and Dusty says, below, your butt, kass and your neckas here here, here you go here you go. This thing here with the legs is true, he's got the legs, but this takes that spine right here below your butt cuffs and takes that and jarves that all the way up to your neckas frot
facelock. JR Is selling of it. JR Is selling of it. Listen to it again, because JR Is selling of it is money. This thing here with the legs is true, he's got the legs, but this takes that spine right here below your butt cuffs and takes that and jarves that all the way up to your neckas front facelock. In event time, indeed,
he's just fucking silent. And then and the best thing is, I don't know if you if you caught this, but when he's saying that too, this whole moment happens where the camera is behind the two of them of it, and so it's just like JR. Doesn't even look over look at him, you know, it's so funny. Yeah, that's dusty and commentary. Man, that's what you get. Yep. Yes, you do back up flare with a short vertical suplex and they're putting over how bad the back is
hurting. His flair gets up and thumbs the eye of Fujinami whipping a chop is ducked and Fujinami comes back off the ropes of the flying forearm that drops Flair. That gets two for Fujinami. Rick Flare goes to the API and Fujinami brings him in the hard way with a vertical suplex. Flair with morah gods, Ah gods, and then Fuji ahead and whiffs on a forearm and hits the canvas. Yeah, is the crowd just like I know that they're not that familiar with Fujinami and they're not invested in him, So I get
that, but it's just weird that they're not reacting to Flare. No, they're not. And is it? Is it because Flair is a heel? It's because Flair's working as a heel, begging off and and and we don't know what to do with it. And I want to cheer Fujinami beating up Rick Flair. They don't want to see Fujinami win the match, but Flair's working at like Fujinami is the one coming for him and he's not the one
coming for Fujinami. Yeah, It's just it's really and that really hurts this thing like, these two have a good match in them between them, but the audience is wrong for it in both coasts. It's kind of weird just because the play the position Flair occupies in the fans minds. If Flair was like this red hot heel at this time, you know, I think you could get people excited at the prospect of Fujinami beating him. I should say more at the prospect of Flair losing. But this match move or moved the
weight it's laid out. It doesn't excite you at the prospect of Rick Flair winning at all. And it was probably heavily political. You know, this is more done in the spirit of strengthening a relationship that could conceivably put ww wrestlers in front of crowds of sixty thousand and put a nice pay day in
their pocket because they were aligned with the top Japanese company. So how this match plays out to me is probably more with an eye towards what's going to please our Japanese counterparts in terms of how Fujunami comes off in the match, then whether the crowd is excited at all, because what it would take to keep the crowd excited between these two would not be the kind of match that they would want to send Fujunami here to have. That's my sense of things.
They're kind of broadcasting past the audience here, which is why you shouldn't put it on last. I mean, there's nothing wrong with making this like the semi to the tag match or something, you know. Yep, this is just it turns. It just it never gets better. It never gets
better, It just gets worse and it gets sloppy. Yeah. Flair himself go over the ropes after that missed forearm by Fujunami, so we just like kind of leaps and then falls back on the mat, and then Fujimi has to do it again, and this time Flaire goes all the way over.
Flair catches him on the floor and coming in, Fujani grabs a side headlock, and Flair crotches him on the railing on the outside and chops him against the rail back in Flair's limping from the leg work of Fujinami, but stomping his Japanese opponent thentheless, there's a chop block and Fujinami selling that, and Flair drapes his leg in the bottom and sits down on it and then Flair puts the shin breaker across the kneeon Fujinami, and Flair steps over and hooks
the figure four to a nice pop. This time you have Fujinami reaching and referee Tiger Tory at eye level looking for any sign of submission. Billow Fonzo watching clothes as well as Fujianami sits up and Flair starts slapping him while in the figure four. Jared points out he may be reviving him by slapping him like this, and Dusty thinks it's a bad move by Flair to exchange hands while in the throws of the hold. Finally, Fujinami reverses it. Flair,
you know, loses his mind. Jarre calls Fujinami one of the nicest guys he's ever been around in sports. As they get back up, they exchange like crazy now as Fujinami picks the leg and turns it over into a scorpion deathlock, but Flair makes the ropes. Flair tells the referee to tell Fujinami something till they're passing messages back and forth through the referee about what spots
to do next, perhaps Torri providing better translation for Fujinami than Flair. Could, Yeah, and it's a back suplex that he called for, and that gets too and again a one two without account. Flair is sure to get out from under. He makes sure, even if there's not a cover, that he's kicking out. Fujiam the headlock and Flair hits the back supplex again, and Jr. Says, Fujinami out of seventeen months of the year, was out seventeen months a year ago with a bad back as well, So
Flair attacking the back makes sense. Okaylair I didn't know that. No, No, he kind of drops that really late that that bit of knowledge. Yeah, Flair scores with a perfect knee drop headlock takeover by the nature boy. Fujinami answers with the heads or Flair gets to the top and they do the bridge that goes nowhere. You know the bridge spot doesn't work. Well, they screw it up. It doesn't work right away, right, isn't it? No, it doesn't doesn't don't they? Yeah, they can't.
They have to do it a couple of times before it actually works. They chuck all that up to the bad back of both guys. So they're kind of acting like they did that on purpose to sell the move which is I guess a possibility but I don't know and lookull like they were really straining to pull it off and could ye Flair with a wou kind of wakes him up, kind of dull on a work weight work right match like this is Flair's whole presentation design model with like a sprint to you know, out wrestle a
guy than to entertain or to get your ass beat. Flair tosses Fujinami out of the ring, and Fujinami blocks and puts Flair into the rail. You know a time it is time for Flair to run the razor and a bit to get us to care. Yes, so he's busted open and the hair is colored red. He comes up and throws his head up in the air so all can see the blood on display and he gets posted as well.
Fujinami ping pons him around ringside a bit brings him back in purchase him in the corner, but Flare shoves him back and Fujinami drops him with the right hand. Flair chops the back of the neck of Fujinami when he has his back to him, and Fujami turns and drops Flare with the right hand. We get we get we get the Battle of the chop houses from across oceans.
Sat right, it's your Charlotte chop house. And then you've got your your Fujinami Premier Japanese chop house and Waigo steaks from Surf all the way to Turf. You got it's corner on a corner, whipp inside alt gooes flare. He lands back into the ring and gets sent into the buckling or hand chop and flare with the ipoke to stop a Fujinami's rally. Fujinami comes back with the tomahawk chop. Flare answers and a shop brings Fujinami to his knees.
A right hand is blocked. FUJHAMI coming again with the tomahawk chop. He hip tosses ric Flair to the corner. Flair. It looked like he may have been thinking slide all the way like hurt heading into the ring post. Yeah, but he doesn't do it. He comes up short or he
wasn't even thinking that raps. No, he does not go. Jammy closes in, but Flair comes up with a boot and I swear whiffs on an Oklahoma roll out of the corner of Flair like tumbles like he's supposed to grab Pujanami's body and go for a pen and he misses him and just rolls across the rings him. Yep, it's just it's so it's just rough. Flair also mentioned the Clippy player that he hurts his neck early in this matchup, So I think he knows this match isn't a well regarded so he's like throwing
that in there as a mitigating factor. Yeah, Flair goes to the Apron. He can't stand. He gets the floor and Flare drop flops to no response on the outside of the ring to you know, you know, it's not a great night for Rick Flair when no one laughs when he flas flops. Yeah, it's like his one go too that like if it doesn't work, then the crowd is not on his wavelength. You know, it's gonna
be a tough night. To the apron the thumb of the eye, Flair climbs the ropes, Fujinami hooks him, and Flair pulls up Fujiami's hand. He probably put Fudjanami his hand where it always is when guys press lam him off the top the wine not in the crotch area, but the one nearest chest, and yeah, it's pretty funny. They see Flair like would guide the hand where it's supposed to be, I know, and he takes the grilla press. Lamb, there's some booze now for Fujianamis. He locks on
the Anoki octopus stretch. Jare says it's a move very rarely used by Americans. Dusty knows the hold. He's been in it. He says, your whole body is tingling when you were locked in it. U Sa chant breaks out. Flair wiggles out hiptop. His body also tingles when he's got a good meal in front of them, exactly right, no difference. Flair wickles out for the hip toss and collapses on his back. Alfonso is checking the cut over. Jare called the when when when when Flair kind of does his
barely a spare escape from that fucking thing. Jare calls it a career counter. Career counter. Okay, yep, I thought ac countants were career counters, right, but something else? Yeah? Is it granite? You know? I mean like like that's the greatest counter of all time for Rick Flair. Really, maybe it's the most important because he was on the verge of
losing this big championship match. Yeah, maybe so Bellefonso's checking the cut of Flair, Tiger Hattoris as well, and Fujonomi closes in with right hands. Not looking for this to end by cut, so Flair turns up the heat with a bit with some chops. They sluck it out Flair with his teeth. His teeth are clenched as he's throwing. Flair takes one shoves off the referee and takes another flare flop. He pushes the referee out of the way, so we can him do it? Yeah, Oh, it's just as
it just gets worse and worse. It's so bad luck push off tackle Flair through the ropes onto the ramp, and Fujinami hits the floor, so they both kind of go spilling down. Flair is hanging on Alfonso stumbling around, lands in the ring, comes back in, Flair chops the shit out of him, body slam crossbody block one two, very close. The crowd goes, WHOA at the possibility of that being being over. As close as you're gonna get, Dusty says to Chitlin's and Grits, I guess that's the post
match meal if he wins, I don't. I don't know what he's talking about. I don't either, I don't care. Ric Flair then shoots off Fujinami to the ropes, puts on an inside cradle that gets too comes with the Duke's up throwing on Fujinami, there's a chop a headlock, push off. Fujinami sidesteps to the O'Connor roll. Takes a second for them to actually pull the damn thing off. Flair kicks off and Fujinami then butts heads with
referee Tiger Hittory. This allows Ric Flair to roll up, tout semi Fujinami and grab a handful of tights, which the announcers don't really mention, foreshadowing his WrestleMania eight demise acts one hundred percent. He'd get paid back from Savage on that one. But with the handful of tights and the roll up billow Fonso, the American referee who failed to notice the over the top rope in
Japan, slides in and counts the one two three. With the new japan ref otherwise disposed, he's now the unduly appointed official, and that ends the contest. Rick Flair defeats tout semi Fujinami eighteen thirty nine. Let's not forget too billow Fonso in clear view of the handful of elastic claws. Yeah, no call at all in Flaire's hands. Not nothing Meltzer relevant. Observer that Dusty Rhodes didn't come up with the flare finish apparently, which is why both
he and Jim Ross never acknowledged the trunks being used in the commentary. Dusty should have at least specified meltzer rights on ref bumps, since they already had two others on the card. Yeah, so apparently they weren't really clued in to emphasize the holding of the trunks. This Dusty didn't finish. They didn't write this finish. So, oh my god, there you go. Alfonso with the big old belt hands it to Flair. Alonso was hoisting it and
raising his name with Alfonso is he's handed the strap on the floor. There's nothing like an in ring ceremony or anything. Some bullshit chance breakout, but overall a fairly positive response to Ric Flair winning back the gold. Here at super Brawl with no music, Flair wakes it makes his way up the aisle with Tiger Tory selling the butting of the heads and Fujinami's chest ruined black and
blue streaks all over it. Thinks to Ric Flair chops. Gary Michael Coppetta makes oh, I know the Weltz are the Weltz are bunkers on Fujis chest. They were going for that for sure, and they achieve the effect.
Gary Michael Coppett announces and Stale, Piro and Sparklers go off, but Flair is nowhere to be found for this big pirate display in his honor, And yeah, there's a bit of postgaming from Jr. And Dusty talks about how in twenty one years he's never seen a tag team match of the quality of the Steiner's versus Sting and Luger and wondering what kind of champs the free Birds will be. Dusty thinks they'll be fantastic. Wants to know who Fantasia is.
Thinks the Pistols will be heard from once again, and they're all kind of waiting for the re rack of the clip and highlight from the main event
here and they show it. It's like, oh my god, like they're just fucking killing time and it's so exhausting Jr. Says it's been a tremendous night in Saint Pete as they plug the Great American Bash Tour that's coming up and doesn't do all that great to the Metal Lands, but they bring the war Games and you hear Dusty say it, I've Brad Daddy Sand the cameras's Metal Lands of the Wall Games and they do a quick role the credits from
her to as ep SP Virgil Runnelds and his assistants Terry Allen mcnam tier, Mike Gossip, Mike Graham, Joe Hamilton, Jody Hamilton, the Assassin or reallyan Smith, Jake Roberts's dad, and the aforementioned Jenny Angele. You see Terry Boat right in there. You see the shad under Craig Leathers, you see Tobin's Lake Studios called out for the set design director Dan Vine. I'm associate producer Tony Shivani and coordinating producer David Crockett. So that's the rundown.
That's the show. That is super Brawl indeed, and we will see you for the Lapsed Funker. But there was a succeeding preceding announcement as a t J. Descantist production its contents is intended for private use only.
