Ep. 361: AEW's Revolution 2020 (Part 2)

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Hopper Boss you're ready to strap in and take in some unfamiliar environs. I'm ready to a revolt, gonna revolt here from the Windester in Chicago, Illinois, February twenty twenty. As we've talked about and the stage has been said,

a couple of dark matches has already been referenced. Penelope Ford and Britt Baker defeating Riho, the inaugural a W Women's champion in Yukosakazaki in seven minutes and thirty six seconds whatever and four your favorites and uh Stuke Grayson and even Luno of the Dark Order beat Frankie Kazari and Scorpio Sky who Stuke Grayson and Evil Uno? Excuse me, Evil Uno, Yes, it's you're talking to

me. That's It's what I always say after having the Rattlesnake pasta. Uh So we start with this green color scheme like Martians welcoming us to an alternate basic show starts in an alternative reality. Your physical matter and energy are about to go on a journey and take you on a journey of a lifetime as you were about to enter another dimension. Based on what you were saying earlier,

this feels like it's right up fucking h Kenny Omega's totally wheelhouse. It feels like the thing you hear at the beginning of a ride at Disney, you know, right, it's yeah, when you're waiting in line, it's the video that's playing on the screen. Well, you're sitting there strapped in and like a video terms out a reality, you'll fly in. Ye kind of weird. I don't know what they thought, why they had to theme

this thing. Just call it something and let's go. You know, it's a revolution, okay, no, And we are in a digital revolution tonight. A storied friendship turns sour with betrayal is set to explode. That in a reference to m J F Verst Cody and it says, the revelation brings a revolution, like salivation brings a revolution. This is a miss. This whole thing is a miss. This is I'm trying to be w W and I don't like it. Like voicing over at the beginning, They don't do

that anymore. They just start where we were yesterday is not where we are today, and it's not where we'll be tomorrow. Tomorrow will be in a different realm, a realm, a realm made up of the legends of today. Oh well, at least it's clear now. They show Kenny and Hangman and Kenny being asked if he's worried about Hangman at all and his reliability, and then Hangman blew up. In the second interview segment that they did to build up the match, Yeah, they talk about Jake Hager's a undefeated MMA

star from Belatoor. They show footage from Bellatore as if sorry ten or eleven and by this point he never he never had a fight after starting with the AW but he was someone very loyal to Jericho. Jericho has a story about how when WW is in the Middle East, one time Jericho found himself in a situation where Jake Hagar saved his life. I don't recall all the details, but that is something that affixes Jake Hagar to Christ Jericho permanently. Where

he goes Hagar goes. Hagar debuted on the very first night of AW remember that week, Remember that a special show for that And and how like I mean, is he is he still there? He's still there, but he does never nothing? Is he still like Jericho's lackey? Well, they just kind of had a implosion of the Jericho Appreciation Society where every member of that grievances and walked off on and besides Govara, So I would say, as of like two months ago, yes, but as of right now, I'm

not quite sure what he's doing there. I say, Okay, I got him. I've hurt That's all I gonna tell you. They showed Dustin Rhodes saying I'm gonna look you square and you're fucking e and beat you to the end. And then they show Nyla Rose, who says, and I quote, do you know what happens when I get hungry? I don't know, Nyla. I can take a guess. The richest prize in the game is

on the line. That's what happens when I get hungry. Lot. They have Moxley saying one day they will all come to my funeral just to make sure I stay dead. That's a that's what Vince said in part one. I believe that I wouldn't even need to do that, because I'm going to make sure that he's dead before the funeral. John Moxley, he's trying to tear down the system, while Chris Jericho was looking to build an empire and

rule in Army Stop No More Scripted. John Moxley is trying to tear down an empire while Chris Jericho is solidifying his legacy on top of the mountain. How many people need to be simultaneously cementing their legacy and pro wrestling at once? She sus Christ And on the other side of the mountain, Cody Road just sitting there and he's saying, where can I go? Where I can be on the clouds above. Boxley says, I am Napalm Death and I'm

thinking, can't wait to see the gate returns for this title run. Then, so they cut to the wind Trust Arena, flames going up. Jim Ross is on the call and starts by saying, on a cold night in Chicago, we welcome you to the sold out wind Trust Arena. Still he sounds good. He still has that base in his voice which he lost going through all his health challenges and things. He's he almost never yells anymore. I think more out of concern they'll lose his voice than anything. Honestly,

Yeah, yeah, probably, But this is before that point. Justin Roberts, is your ringing out, can any can you know? Can is there any person in the world at least in wrestling. Who who who suffers more but just can't It's gonna sound awful, but just can't die. Like even Bobby he got to the point where, you know, it was like he just died. Well Jim, he tweets like pictures of his surgery scars and he's a fucking mess. Like this guy has had more health problems and more

tragedy and yet he still lives. I mean, he's he's honestly, he's like, you know, he's so true Jake Roberts in so many ways, like but without the demons, you know, Jake's Nake Roberts should be dead. It's pretty amazing. Yeah, how you can have what Bray Wyatt has gone and Luke Harper's gone, and yeah, people lived to ninety and they seem like they're on death store for forty consecutive years. I mean, Jim is just a legend at a precious commodity and I hope he never dies.

But you're right. I mean, it's like we've been we've been standing on watching a decline for a while now, and w has hitdled it delicately, I think, But he's pretty much like he'll do you know, a couple matches for a big show. He'll do a guest spot on the Collision Saturday night show. He doesn't do anything on Dynamite anymore. Excalibur has become like the main voice of the promotion, and that's probably just as well because Jr. Is like a cantankerous old guy now, Like he'll go on the air

it's like, why they doing that? That made no sense? Like he tries to do a little bit of guerrilla that was a bad cover, but he does it in very inopportune moments about talent that really isn't isn't served by pointing out that what they're doing in the ring doesn't make anyone check the script on this show? What the hell is going on this storyline? Pretty much?

Yeah, that's pretty much anyone who wrote this dialogue exactly. Yes, he'll say shit like that exactly, And it's kind of funny for a little while. Then after a while it's like, can we get somebody in the chair that actually's trying to get us excited about what's happening instead of Tony Schivani still there? Oh yeah, and he's great. He's like the ultimate booster. He he just springs enthusiasm for whatever it is. He works there at

a production capacity as well. He's not just a he's kind of like he's very much a team member. So Justin Roberts introduces Desiree Chalice, who does the national anthem you pronouncing. I don't know, I don't know what this was. It might be a Cody influence. I don't imagine them doing this

now. Cody is like he's big on like the new Americanism. He even did a disastrous promo one time when he's going to wrestle up a British boxer named Anthony Agogo about how like for all of our challenges this is durring, like you know, the pandemic and all the Black Lives Matter protests and everything, and he tried to do this promo where it's like it's okay to still love America. People were like just shut up, like stop, like no

one, no one was turning to you for like a this. I think it was actually the start of a warm kind of turning on him as far as the crowd booing him, although there wasn't none. We don't, we don't, we don't turn to the American nightmare when we're already living through our

own nightmare. That might be. It cut to a hoodie wearing aw fans with a grin during the anthem that's always nice, and then they kind of do a nice set off the pyros as she's singing and bringing it to a crescendo and people are putting white and red and blue on their phones and waving it. In the credit, they cut to Steve Austin's brother, Rick, software designer. He's in the audience. He's sing along Rick Austin. Guy.

I don't know I made that up. There's a guy bald who looks yeah, bald, goatee and he looks like a fucking software design appreciate a freeze frame of Rick Austin on the Twitter. Thank you very Tony shows she knocked it out of the park and we have video ramp floor. That's a good sign. Yeah, yeah, I like that. I'm always a big fan of the video ramp. It's one of the that's one of the few

technological advances that I am supportive in pro wrestling. And his gay pointed out in our part one, you can see the C two B two logo and the turnbuckle padding. Dustin Rhodes makes his way down to the raindow, his hang hang hang Hang hangang hang hang code mud not that part Kangang Kangang kangang and Q shall with him at the top of the hag Kanang. Now also they call him legendary, Yes, the legendary. So does longevity equal legendary?

Don't forget what Advince lapsed. Vince say at the first starcast, we're really gonna believe this Cody Rhodes guy when he all when he all told us with a straight face ahead of all in that Billy Gunn is a legend. Yeah, no, No, Billy Gunn is not a legend. Dustin Rhodes not a legend. He's he's he's not Nod Carter, He's right, you're not a lot more longevity than anyone expected, and a great performer, a

terrific progress no, not about it, but not a legend. To be a legend, you have to you have to have been a money maker, have to have done something legendary, right, and I mean as far as he hit the ball out of the park with gold dust, but I mean for a year maybe, yeah, not doesn't count. It's just like it wasn't gold dust. Never if gold dust had made it to that next level and became like a real world title contender maybe, but that never happened.

Jake Hager gonna hurt. I got a getting the ring get hurt. That was great. Thank god they made all for him Jr. Of course it's over. Danny Hodge Perry, Oklahomas, he lay sight on the Oklahoma Jake Hager. They they they they run down the the accolades of Jake Hager like you were talking about him then and then he starts making out with some broad there that his girlfriend or his wife or something to play. Yeah, well here this and then this all happened. Jake Hager flight a background see in

Oklahoma as well as you know. J R. Set the record books kids by an Oklahoma suoner wrestler. He was an All American. We used to record at MMA undefeated two and up, played so far a couple of books stoppages. Why big boy, Okay, I guess everybody gets fired up their own light up there. Speak for yourself. Jim, you know, you know, you know, I mean, you know he is. It's kind of I found him to be kind of a little uh hypocritical of JR.

To B to be you know, kind of going, you know, critical of of of of Jack Swagger's little love trist there with his with his lady, because you know the moment that Tony Shavanni said, Oklahoma, sooner Jr. Busted two nuts, I'll be there house at Fair. I was mistaken. I'm glad to put that clip because Jake Hager's record is not eleven and I think that's eleven and one is Lashley's record. I'm thinking of his is three and uh three zero and one with a no contest. So there we

go, there we go. That's more like him. So yeah, uh, Hagar's going to wrestle gold dust with a boner after making out with his wife. That's good. If only Ahmed had thought of that defensive g nineteen ninety six, I know, he should have made out with a woman fucking blown his load and then it would have been okay. Absolutely, Excalibur sounds a little different back then. He was in the color roll and he doesn't have that boisterous speed reading of ad copy thing yet under his belt, So

that's something I noted. I was actually really blown away by how different everybody was just three years ago, you know, like how different MJF looked and sounded how different Even the Bucks looked. You know, it's sure. I mean, I know that they're always associated with Racida, California, because that's where pro Wrestling Guerrilla was, But the only thing Racita is their hairline on this particular in this particular moment, I know, are they you know again,

I'm I asked, when are they changing their name? I know? When are they no longer young? But they're approaching the rapidly approaching that age where long hair is deeply inappropriate. Well again, they're also they're also definitely in the age where they're no longer young. Absolutely to say nothing. They're they're they're the middle age Bucks. And when are we when are we commenting on that? It's it's an interesting question. What do we at? I

mean, they get I guess they get a little bit. You know, Matt's thirty eight, so he's got two years left. And then we got to start thinking about changing the name. Okay, all right, Dustin Rood says, I'm here to fight Jericho's bitch. What is it? Okay? What is he at? The insurrection? And then JR. Apologizes for for that, And the question is actually the real question I have is how long is it going to take Jr. Before he calls Jake Hagar Jack Swagger.

Well here probably for Hagar's you if I call him the swagger, fame on me, Jim. He's so cranky, you know. So yeah, why not the new names? Damn it? I almost different names. Damn its. Dustin gets it started here at Revolution back Suplex by Hagar after they explode in about a fisticuffs to start the contest. Jr. Says, in the early going, it gives you the indication that Hagar thinks he's got this thing under control. Ye, Dustin is fifte Wow. The floor into the rail

goes Hagar. Recall uh, they recall Cody roses match with Dustin and mentioning how that is as good as he's seen perhaps in decades. Were there that was pretty epic that one's lost to history. You know, that was a fucking amatch yep a w missing that soul, in my opinion, the soul

of that which is missing totally. I mean that's again I I that's Cody pretty much, and and and it's pretty much you know, somebody that was that committed to unearthing the the real the real core of what wrestling was in the seventies, I feel like, you know, for reinterpreting it of course for the modern age, but chasing this matchup with Nick all this at the first it's all it's like it's a category of match that they don't really have

anymore in their buffet of offerings. They've replaced it with, right, you know, six person brawls around the building. Right, Oh god, I can't the fucking you know, the stadium. I can't stand them. I hate them. Stop stop all right, I can't stand them one bit. They're so annoying, they're so stupid, they're so grotesque, they're so unnecessary. I'm sick and tired of Like they're kind of a shortcut in my opinion. It's like, yes they are. You know, what's going to be

wild and people are gonna remember it as like a crazy thing. But at the end of the day, it's like kind of lazy to just throw that out there. Or just at the end of the day, man, brother, or we're talking about dude, you know, we get a dial this thing back in brother, you know, at the end of the day, talking to like sway in the morning, at the end of the day, Dude, I got this thing wide open. At the end of the day. End of the day, brother, you know we're talking about you know,

we gotta talk about exactly. You know, we're at this level right now, dude. We gotta get to this level at the end of the day. It's for some fetanel lollipops. At the end of the day, dude, you know, I just want to fucking be high. Speaking of wedge, Dustin breaks the count backet In, Dustin clothes lines Jake Hager out of the ring from the other side. Higger ducks and backsup plus his Dustin under the apron, and we know that's the hardest part of the ring.

Indeed, it's a running Referey Abrey Edwards checking on Dustin like he's uh because Bell has really been wrong. Jericho's bitch chant breaks out, Jake does a basic cover and JR. Says, that's the amateur background in it. A cover is swagger married to uh to Kevin Bacon's wife Kyra Sedgwick. Yeah, she kind of looks like that. And then JR. Says, a very unique snap mayer, if I may say, and what is a unique snap mayor to me? That would have to be like some backwards thing. They

discuss how liver shots force all the organs to shut down. It shuts down your body trying to protect the liver. Yeah, but what about the onions. Jake is doing a basic wrist lock, and JR. Says he's using the things and what about the martial lights? Wait what he does the basic wrist lock? And Jarr's like, he's using the things he learned in martial

arts. Yeah, hold that fucking Jack Briscoe used to do. JR. Says, the weaknesses an amateur turn mm a fighter is the wrestler's striking defense is somewhat suspect, as Dusted is getting absolutely clobbered, Right, But also I liked that, Like that he's basically saying, how how that that the you know how wrestlers lack in strikes when it comes to the mixed variation of martial arts and so like that could be Swagger's downfall despite having wrestled pro style

for years in the WWE, right where he did plenty of strikes, right where striking defense was never a problem. Yeah, right, exactly what about all those years there, JR. You're still talking at the time, like Hagar's gonna fish in b pawns fight him and wrestles simultaneously. So that may been the vision when they hired it. Yeah, you know, you know when when you can, when you can kind of determine the outcome and also, you know, not necessarily hurt your body. Uh, in an extreme

way. I can understand why he's not going to do any amim. It's to be a bit more appealing. Yeah, he was side a belator which was on Paramount, which isn't you know, the same thing as Warner Brothers. I could see if it was like a deal where some guys on Spike back in the day would fight and wrestle it lashly. Yeah, but it's not if they're two different networks. I don't see the lasting too long. Jr. Also talks about all the different ways training and lifestyle things that that

gold dist has made. Here doesn't changed his body. He's focused war on Cardiovasca produced me. He's living better, he's eating better. He just overall in a better system of general. Hell, you gotta change with the time, dright, JR. Im sure you do. In other words, he's

lost weight, that's right, he's thin. Remember he was basically what it is, right exactly and hooked on pills, right, And I always loved that about Jr's like, I don't know, it's like, no, no, you basically he was told, dude, you gotta fucking lose weight, gonna die. It's like, I mean, you know, this is the same thing about fucking Big Show and Ship, you know, back in the day, Like, oh, he's working out differently, he's taking care of

himselving dierent away. It's like, no, no, no, he just stopped eating five whoppers, Okay, Instead he's eating like he's not smoking an actual cigarette on his way to the room, right exactly. It's herbal so exactly. He's vaping on the way. That's one thing we haven't seen yet, the vapor and wrestler, oh think would slapped out of him. I'd like to see that. I would imagine Orange Cassidy would do that at some point, I know, you'd be candidate. Be amazing. He gets so

depressed over losing to Moxley that he starts vaping in middle school bathroom. Really be really fucking funny. They keep up about the liver shots. Jay says that knee in the liver neighborhood and he says he used to live and live the liver spots. What about the liver spots for that matter. Dustin catches a hagar on the apron, throws him into the corner with a hard larry it drops him, gets a pep talk from the wife, does a Jake Hager until Dustin kicks him. Jr. Says, enough of the bread and

milk talk. I'm thinking, really, Jim, you really, are you really done with it? I doubt it last last my check. Do anything happened to do with flour and and dipping that flower substance in milk seems to be doing well for Jay's coming from a guy who keeps a loaf of wonder bread on the desk just in case, barbecue sauce. Fucking he's got, he's got like a he's got a little bag, a little Carrie bag like underneath the announced desk, which is a loaf of white wonder bread and fucking

and barbecue sauce. And he just drizzle a little bit on the home. Dustin blocks the slap of just of Jake Hager's wife and then rubbs some red paint on her face like it's a kiss on her And I hope and then yeah, there's just some sexual misconduct there against Kyus Edgewick. And we haven't even right, haven't even gotten to the chorus lide for Jericho song back in Dustin with an uppercut from his knees, Excalibur says, from that unnatural angle, I'm thinking, Okay, yeah, that's a way. If you ever

see that uppercut live, it's the most fake looking thing. The guy has to sit there bent over for it seems like thirty five seconds. Yeah, right, he's fucking like lays on and then it lays on his back and he can clearly see the guys beneath him, and yet he can't move. Bulldog and a snap power slam on the charge by Rhodes gets to Dustin is from Austin, Hagar is from Tyson, and the referees from Michael's. JR. Says that second Saturday in October, he's always there at the Cotton Bowl

for OU, so it's coming up well humble. From understand, the OU coach is even gonna pretend to want to talk to Jr. And reveal certain strategies ahead of the season. He's also from what I from JR also mentioned too that he is. He is charging the batteries to his drone, so he's ready chop luck to the knee. Tony says, that could restruct what's that? There's a quip. It's a clip, I'll say, How's an

audio clip? Is what it was? Right? I fucking the moment, the moment that he does that, he does that to the chop block. I always think of what a big deal Vince McMahon made of the road dog clipping Razorman's knee at the ninety five Royal Rumble. That was a clip. That's where that's from. That's where that's from, some funny deep cut Jesus, that was a clip, like like you fucking has if he learned that? Oh? Is that what this call? They called a clip? All

right? I want to I want to really in football they call that a clip? All right, I'm gonna get they're done. Wayne does that? I want to say, that was a clip. That's knowledgeable information. Hagar tries the Hagar bomb, which is the Vader bomb, but the feet up from Dustin and a roll up gets too. But then Hagar lifts and dumpson like a rick stand er suplex. Uh then does a running Hagar momb for the two corner corner. Hagar Larry, it's Dustin in the corner. Jr.

Calls him an athletic freak of nature. Excuse me as Hagar hits a great gut wrench doctor bomb for two. Aubrey holds up the count though, and Jr. Decries how Hagar hadn't pinned him correctly. It's his new thing. Hagar licking the side of Dustin's face in the corner they mentioned. I don't know why he's doing. Tony Sister, I don't know what he's doing. There's no blood there. Jared says, maybe it's flavor. I swear

these are things they're all saying. I can't eat chocolate anymore. On the charge, he's backdropped over the corner and hits his face on the steel steps on the way down or Jared says, basketball. Excuse me, family, a basketball, you know? I yeah, it was. It was a little, I don't know, a little perfect for me. The way he hit his head on the way down. Yeah yeah. Road sets up the

shattered dreams and Hagar gets loose but still gets kicked in the nuts. Dustin hits the Code red with one leg dangling, but he still tries for a cover gets too danglings and nut covering the shoulder cross on breaker by Dustin because he's MMA. That's right, the big impactful, big dramatic sit down for it Jr. Reminds us of, gives us a reminder of Dustin's family background. Fast so supportive are the grandson of a plumber doesn't want the same ring

to it? Really doesn't the son of a plumber grant It means there's like a generation mixed there, like you know where you know the fact that that that that Dusty was the son of a plumber and then made good. You know, that's the idea. And as much as I hate that whole fucking thing, Dusty is like saying, I I my dad was a common man and I and I and he allowed me basically to achieve greatness, whereas you

know, Dusty achieved greatness and his eldest achieved less greatness. Well, I mean, he's a pro wrestler standing in the middle of a wrestling ring. How about we mentioned that his father was a multi time world champion instead of his grandfather was a plumber. No, his grandfather was a plumber. Anything about the way he grew up. I was gonna say, exactly like the

grandfather's life and occupation has got nothing to do with Dustin whatsoever. It's not like the fucking grandfather raised Dustin. I'm the grandfather of a cobbler in Portofino that I never met my grandson. I'm I'm the grand I'm the grandson of a drunk, an abusive man. Show victory and the rest. There we go. So he tries the armbreaker like I somehow made good on that,

So there we go. He breaks the arm free like no mercy that on the cross arm breaks and then Hagar counters with an ankle locke h why the hell you would purposely engage in a submission exchange with a pro and a fighter. I don't know. Dustin is in the under arm or gloves. He climbs the corner, gets free, Hagar almost goes flying into Aubrey Edwards and low blows him. It is that kind of little detail that just would make the whole thing different if you did think like that. You know, oh,

this guy's an MMA guy, a trained MMA fighter. Maybe there are things I shouldn't do even though this is a pro wrestling match. There are things that I shouldn't do because it wouldn't make sense, because I don't have mixed martial arts train. I'm going right into his wheelhouse at a time when I'm in control of the match, right, but we've got a counter into the ankle locks. There you go, I guess blow by Hagar. Hagar

screams to the sky. Does the headed arm choke so anti climactic? He was trying to make that a thing where you do the the standing headed arm choke, and Rhodes drives him into the corner several times to break it up. Doesn't work. Hagar digs in the knees and squeezes the standing choke. Dustin falls to a knee and then Aubrey calls for the bell as Dustin falls into a heap, out cold and the May style just doesn't work in wrestling. To do a submission like that just doesn't. In forty seconds, it

was that long. Wow. J Kgard feats Dustin roads submission the opening contest of a w Revolution twenty twenty. Gonnam I gonna work show the world your worth, show the world what works. Can't hold him all on the surf. He leaves his wife up the steps to celebrate. They get in the ring, can't get him hurt, can't get a hold on a smurf. I'm a king of this earth. I'm gonna steal your pockets. I'm gonna put your name on a docket. Oh well, that's sensitive. That's a

sensitive area for dustin. I'm gonna put your name in a docket like you got booked by Jimmy Crockett. Okay, and then I'm gonna go tell you to fucket. I got it. That's a QT Marshal does representing the Nightmare family as he comes out to help Roads to his Feetcause he's recovering from that knockout choke and they do an ad for a March twenty fifth and the first Blood and Guts. How sad map because because because you know, it was

like it was so perfect, it was such a perfect thing. I remember being so excited because I had already at that point I was ready for uh we hadn't done no, we hadn't done it yet, but I was. I was already kind of at the beginnings of of the war games, the art of war games, and I was like, this is great, like

this will be a great thing. We can we can follow up, Like, actually, the idea was that we would go all the way up to this, we would finish with this and then whatever the w one one was in twenty in twenty twenty at that at the the NXT pay per view, that was kind of the idea that we would build up to doing that live call and we would have this as part of it at the end of the the other ones and then you know, all went to hell. Amazing,

isn't it. Yeah that it is the best laid plans. So they ran out on the card and it's pretty stacked something for all their main guys. This is before the Rose roster was so bloody bloated. Now, like if they had an impact player on there, he would be on the pay per view or she would be on the pay per view. They had a you know, a role there were there are a lot of superfluous wrestlers that filled in dark and everything in Elevation and and had matches on TV, but weren't

necessarily pay per view level guys. And that's great and you need those guys. But this is before it was to the point where like, wait a minute, they've got like twelve people that could make this pay per view better. And they're not on the show because there's so much in every match. Eight ten Man's and Ship because they're trying to get as many guys on the

pay per view as possible. Before that special shout out to the German announced crew for some reason, and they'll go over to them Gunter Zoff and Company. They say oot a couple of times. That's about all I can tell you, Avara. I'd been fighting over a skateboard with a darbl And in weeks leading up to this thing, and they're all looking ahead to April twenty nine when AUW was to make its debut in Houston, Sammy Gavar's hometown, trying to make that a thing, and I can only laugh hearing that.

Yeah, and now a Derby short film occurs, of course, where he moonsalt onto a skateboard that has Sammy written on it. Wonderful. He comes to the ring, we realize that Darby is six seven and one in his aw career. I'm pretty sure they stopped the career long records and now they just do like singles record this year, but I maybe I'm wrong about that. I don't pay attention anymore I don't even think they show the records honestly on the pay per views. I don't think they do. They just show

the Twitter handle in the name Wow. And that's supposed to be a big differentiator, right, We're gonna have scores and rankings and who goes for the belt's going to make sense? No, of course, like everybody else, they just give up on that because it requires a level of control over booking that the fucking rascals and pro wrestling will never allow you to have as the boss. Well in that and also just you know, attention to detail. Well, yeah, you can all the details in the world, but wrestlers

are gonna do things to piss you off. They're gonna get hurt, They're gonna not be able to fallow through in your plans. You're gonna have to plug people in who aren't ranked. It's it cannot work because wrestling is too busy trying to ruin things before they can consummate. Right, exactly, that's what wrestling is. So here we go Darby versus Gava. It's a very short skateboard ride from the ramp to the ring for Darby Allen, so it

ends up being a anticlimactic entrance for him. Get my favorite impanada coming out? Absolutely, how about a wonderful running suicide dive before the bell? Sure, and this guy, I don't think anybody should do it for their health, but if you're gonna suicide dive, do it like Darby Allen for Christ's sakes. Yeah, unbelievable. He does put the suicide in suicide. You saw the London show. You see him jump on the fucking casket off the top rope. What the fuck is this? Seriously, I really don't know

what his fucking problem is, Like he's gonna stop. It's unbelieved he's causing He's causing problems for me and everybody else. Sun dropkick into the rail goost virus. How he's not dead yet I don't understand, or it's just some rethly seriously hurt. You know, I've never even heard of him having a very serious injury, and he's been doing this since he was in Evolved, before a w even existed. Getting thrown off the top rope in a body

bag where he can't see anything. Fucking nuts, really crazy, sidestepped on the charge, does a flying one foot kick to the face. Very nice hits the wall. No one hits the wall at Ringside quite like Darby Allen. I mean, this guy throws himself over. Jr. Puts both as being just in their twenties and being a key building blocks for aw We see at Ringside the Jurassic Express, which was still a thing back then. Not just Jack Perry and Lucasaurus, but Marco Stunt, who was who remember him?

He was like extra small, He was like five feet tall and he'd do all kinds of wild time. We saw him at both all In and Double or Nothing if memory serves he obviously he didn't really impact me. Remember that made that Battle Royal that started the show that Bully Ray was in where there was the little guy that was tossed that was eliminating a hund people in surviving really small now Ye nope, So that's why he probably doesn't work there

anymore. Ye wonder how they got those seats by the way out. Sammy is draping the rail and Darby tried a suicide dive but he came up short. His foot hit the ropes. Oh yeah, Lucky didn't take him. They made a big deal out of that too. On commentary again here his back heel actually hit the top rope and that stopped his momentum, didn't stopped his heart from the beating. If you don't do that, Darvy is gonna

compete. Jim. Thanks Chaff. By the way, I don't know if you knew this or not, but uh, Sammy Guavara is the love child of Adam Scott and Chas palmon Ary. I know Adam Scott. No, it's a good one. Chaz Okay, the guy from a Bronxdale. Yeah, that's fucking incredible. You put them together, they fuck and then you get Sammy Gulvar squirting out. If Darby Allen's back heel hit the ropes, has he turned back heel yet? Sammy chucks the skateboard in Derby's face?

Does that? Does that qualify as a heel turn? If? If you're yeah, if you're if your heel causes your direction, if you if your heel gets caught and causes a change in direct direction, to change in direction, is that technically gets Sammy chucks the skateboard at Derby's face, again, proving my rule that tossing a blunt object at someone's face always works in pro wrestling. It it will always get a reaction something something hard the ring,

like their announcer's chairs when they throw those at Rice. Didn't who get injured? Someone? I read someone got injured? Right, someone get injured recently because of that? Yeah, I don't recall. Well Xavier Woods, right, didn't he gets well? Get they're worried. But he wasn't. Oh oh, he wasn't injured. Okay, say I was fine, but it looked like he I mean I thought he got Yeah. I thought they reported he went to the hospital or something. There needs to be more polar parts

in wrestling. Word like trash cans and things are flying through the air, like a fight at a Popeyes or something. You know, yes, yes, yeah Popeyes? That man that places. Jeez, you walk in into order food and you're getting into fight. Good luck. You can see Dan Lambert in the front row before he became a character on AW television chacking in the matches. Sammy sets up a table on the outside, Darby's on it. Sammy climbs the ropes and does the loco hand gesture like I can't believe

I'm about to do this. Eddie does the six thirty splash, busting the table on the floor. Jared says, that's aw. Get these twenty somethings in the ring doing what they do, and they believe in their heart it's the right thing to do. That's that's Jim's endorsement. Okay, I know it's not the right thing to do, but they believe in their hearted is watch them take the risk. That's what matters. Claus's right. And when Darby gets in the ring the bell sounds. We realize the bell hasn't even

sounded yet. Nope, nope, So running beside Uni before Dan O'Brien even came into the organization by Sammy Gavara, that gets too stand. Sammy stands with his back on the throat of Darby, which is on the rope, and at the count of four before the disqualification, Moon salts to break the pressure. I like that, a little bit of flash to break the hold. Yeah, just kicks the rope in Darby's face. Darby grabs the gory special and bites the hand of Sammy Gavara, dropped down in jacks and cheese

on his fingers. Food. You are arm bar bending the wrist is Sammy Gavara. Sammy reaches with the ropes and Darby ties that, oh no, it's Derby, sorry that has the food. You are an armbar on. And when Sammy Gavard tries to use his free hand to reach the ropes, Darby adjusts and ties that arm up as well. Great so Gavar is forced to use his foot to break the hold to the floor. Sammy darks in the ring hot shot, Starby on the top goes to the top rope.

Darby on the apron now and there's a double foot stomp from Sammy Gavara. Darby goes down onto the apron hard. He's dragged to the center for the count of two. Sammy loads the skateboard and the ring. Darby charges and it's a code red for two. Jared says that one used to be automatic to crying the days when moves like that was the finish. What's the code? Which one is the code red? That's like, uh, you know,

Zelina Vega does it. Others do it where you jump over the guy's back, tuck your the Canadian destroyer, not really the Canadian destroy your heads between the guy's legs in the code read your legs go under his arm pits and flip them over. Oh, I see Ray, does it hown't you guy? The smaller guys do. It started with amazing red. That's why it's called the code red. Nice I think, I think code red. I think of fucking u Craig Pittman arm bar. Well, Darber has had

that one on a minute ago. He keeps saying that he said code red twice. I'm like, oh, I don't remember anyone calling the fucking arm bar the code red. But okay, next time I hear a code red, I'm gonna be like, what it's an arm breaker, fucking Craig Craig Pittman. It's so great. So when the guy kicks out, Jared goes that one used to be automatic, and Chavanni says, the athletes have changed. That's why you can kick out of big impact moves. The athletes have

changed. That's right. I mean, while Scalabar are talking about coupon codes, uh, Sammy's still favoring those ribs. Tony says, and undoubtedly referring to JR. And actually weality, I gotta I gotta cupon code for for for for for for nanty storage. You guys under cupon code percent draft kings on Fisher Party made Good Draft Kings dot Com Guess Guess who's gonna win? Three multiple Twitch questions play along in home, hold on, Hold on Cover,

Deep Cover. So again, Sammy's still favoring those ribs, Chavanni says, undoubtedly, referring to Jr. And actually Sammy shoves off the top leaks. Jair comes up with a slice of bread and barbecue sauce on its Oh, you're sitting behind Jim in the crowd at the announced position, you just see like sworts of barbecue sauce go up like a guys are from in front of his body. But if you're sitting in front of him, you turn around, you all you see just like just his you know, a halo,

a halo of barbecue sauce around his mouth like it's circle. That's funny, like a child watered halo, like a cat. He just saint a fucking bunch of blueberries and it's sucking all over their face. He looks at you as if he's sad. What exactly are you judging me? Even though my gotee looks like bur it ends right now, It's like it looks like a fucking fucking put my mouth in a mud in a puddle of muddy.

But enough about all row what So Sammy shoved off the top, leaps up top though in one fluid motion, and goes on one leg because Darby tries to grab his leg to disrupt his balance, but he lifts one leg and stays up top of the other, and then Sammy sends him flying with a Spanish fly off the top rope. That gets too I hate that move, but that should have finished. Agreed, if you're gonna do it, I really hate I hate that move, but honestly, at that point, that

should have finished. W chant top buckling exposed. Nice monkey flip by Darby to Sammy hoop. Anyone who thinks that anyone who thinks the Spanish fly is a good move should just fucking kill himself. I couldn't agree more. It's so hopefully so stupid. Think about think about the amount of power that you have to have to be able to not only if the person with one arm, but also flip them backwards, like nobody is going to let you do

that to them, right. It's it's one of those moves which this is to me, is always the litmus test if it's a good pro wrestling move. If it looks like it requires more work on the part of the person taking the move than the one delivering it, you should not do it. Yeah, this is one where it's all on the front. The guy's moonsalting, but he's moon salting in a way that's completely disembodied from the move.

Like I'll tell you what. It'd be one thing if he had the guy like in a belly to belly type move and then landed on top of him, Like I could buy that, But but the fact that it's really rely on the fact that your arms are interlocked like a rock bottom, and yet you're supposed to like you have no control over that maneuver. That guy should move salt Old guys should not front flip at all. He should just like fall down right fucking exactly. You land in your head, try to do

the move. It's like four times more risk to you trying it. It's it kills you and the guy. The guy wins. It's such a stupid move. I mean not only that, like I wouldn't even just I just like go ahead, back foot, I'm just gonna stay right here. Hate it so much I can't always hit it even since Joe Ellen, Joe Maximo used to do it the Sat Twins. I used to hate it, then I I have never I've never liked it, just makes It's never made any

fucking sense to me. Top Buckling at you know is they do a nice monkey flip where Sammy, instead of just flipping landing on his back, does a full rotation so his face hits the buckling. Yeah, all right, it's that, and then a great slide behind and a flipping stunner by Darby. Then he goes to the top and hits the coffin drop for the one, two three, Darby Allen Pin Sammy Gavara in five minutes here at aw Revolution twenty twenty. Definitely a glimpse of guys they would be featuring for years

to come into this day. But the problem is we're three years on and they're still the future. Yeah, they've had title shots and stuff, and Darby had a good TNT title run. Gavaras messed around in some TV and main events and stuff, But for the most part, both guys are where they were. Let's let's not forget too Yes, they're the future, just like uh, just like uh Marcus bag All was a Rookie of the Year

for like five years straight. Resolutely same thing. Jay Hager comes out and retrieved Sammy Gavara as part of the Jericho Inner Circle at the time, as Darby prepares to swing the skateboard, Adam Jared's Darby's best is yet to come, no doubt about that. They're missing that sometimes I feel like on Dynamite in particular, in any show he doesn't commentate, there is gravitas when Jay

or endorses a young guy. Sure, that's kind of the flip side of him being you know, cantankerous about you know, modern wrestling on the body of the actual show and calling out logical holes and things. Is that when he does endorse somebody, you tend to believe it. He has protected that credibility over the course of his career, thank God for all his faults.

Next up tail the tape for our tag team match. This is it, the Young Bucks versus Omega Page Finishers, Meltzer Driver versus the Buck Shot and the v trigger the Buckshot v D. I'm like, what the fuck is this even mean? This is not even English. Tony likes the Omega page finishers more than the Young Bucks finishers. That's no surprise considering against the Meltzer driver. The Meltzer driver they do a package. Page says, we're still

cool. I'm just going to ride alone for a while. This is him sort of distancing himself from the elite back then doing his moody walking away from the group. The Bucks were upset that Page was involved in like blind tagging

and kind of pulling the rug out from under them. And they do a picture with all of them outside a cracker barrel, which is their favorite restaurant to eat out on the road, and they see that whole thing unraveling the cohesion that used to be with these four guys and Kennyan Page later go on to win the aw tag belts on one of the dynamites. They shot on board one of Jericho's cruise ships. If you can believe it, those those

are some unique episodes. You can see their hair blowing in the Caribbean breeze as they saw that. Says, I'd be lying if I said I didn't see us holding the tag titles by now here in AW. When I said we'll have the best tag teams in the world in AW, I thought we'd be as is your territory. Yeah, and that was definitely a thing. I mean, they jobbed immediately to a private party, a team that went nowhere and had injury problems, but honestly very little. Yeah. I think

that was also a big mistake with the company. As much as I don't as much as I don't like them, for the most party, they should have been tag champions of their own company from the beginning. That was the drawing card they were. They were the drawing card. I'm with you. I mean, I think and I still feel this way. It's like and I'm with you on the Jericho thing. I think it could have gone a lot longer, and it was a good choice for first champion. I didn't

realize it until it started to happen and play out week tweek. I was

like, this was a good choice. But I always thought from day one that keny Omega should have been the world champion and the Bucks should be the tag champs, and that should be the way things were until someone came along whose calling card would be the guy who took the belt from the beating heart of the company and that would make him an instant megaheel, and then they chase it and maybe they don't get it back and then someone else emerges to

take it off him instead. They just kind of went thing about things all back. They fucked around a lot. Yeah, they they were so afraid of being criticized as executives who put the belts on themselves that they honestly made decisions that went nowhere for like a year and a half. Almost Cody not, you know, disqualifying himself in world title contention. You can file that under the same thing, you know. Yeah, it was all it was all just really weird. Like I was like again, you know, I

was, I was a fan. I mean, I thought it was weird that they didn't put themselves in the number one spots. But then at the same time, I was like, you know, especially the tag thing more than the championship is what really I was just very surprised at because it took them years before they gave themselves a tag time, right, Yeah, they

did, because they'd never seen the time. It never seemed right because they were so they were so dedicated trying to get other teams established in those early days, and then FTR came in and that was kind of like a diversion feud that wasn't really about the Belts as much. Yeah, it's it's been

awkward all along in that regard. And I think, you know, the initial thing about the Bucks is not just the people who love them, but the people who absolutely hated them, and they never utilized that if they were the champs the whole time. People that hated a W could hate watch the shit out of it, you know, Yeah, right, they're watching a W to find the Holes and these guys who who launched this incredibly successful guerrilla promotion and they're not even on the show, and if they are, they're

getting beat and it's like, it's not it's not leveraging. Yep. I feel like So that was why there was such a sensation on the indies. It wasn't just the positive buzz they were getting for how they were hustling massive money, working independently and starting a retail and a merchandise operation that that that putting massive money in their pockets compared to what most us any guys could do, But it was also people so mad that they were getting recognized for that

and for a style that pissed them off. That also led to them their matches being the subject of conversation, even though it wasn't hardly on a big television platform or anything right, never had that in aw so maybe they shied away from it. Maybe they couldn't take that at that level. But Kenny being pulled in two directions is the story here between Adam Page and the Bucks and Pages bragging about winning the championships before the Young Bucks did, and of

course that rubs the Young Bucks the wrong way. And they said, you know, we're the ones that put you on our show. Being the elite made you a star, Adam Page, you were just a job or and ring of honor, and we brought you to this level. And Adams, is the first time I accomplish something. You want to take that away from

me by reminding me of how it's all thanks to you. So Page is taking everything very personally, and then he also takes very personally the question of whether Kenny Omega can trust him and a bit of a sit down interview thing that we've already referenced that they did in the bill to this thing. Page is a big I'm done guy. You know the I'm done people. Ye, people who were just like I'm done, I'm done it, You're done with what exactly. One of the guys just walks away because he's done.

Yep, he's that, you mean, John mock punk, I'm done. I'm done. What are you done with? Are you just because you're not winning the argument? While you're done? Done? Okay, I'm gonna beg you to stay You're done. Yeah, I guess what. I'm not going to beg you to do anything. I'm actually going to beg you to go keep going. Omegas that it goes. Maybe I should not trust this guy. So they're building this to a boil, and I don't know. It

was good. It was well told, it was well thought through. It kind of looks a little hokey watching it back three years later, the dramatic interplay among all of them, it kind of kind of lose that cohesion. Doesn't feel as authentic anymore. Not to say they hate each other, but because they don't. They're still thick as thieves and actually all agreed to resign

with aw this year in concert and keeping that pact of sticking together. But really, oh yeah, yep, that was the thing they said when they came in and stuck to But I don't know, it just seems kind of overacted. The match is great, and the matches were great, but I feel like the in between stuff was a little now, a little tough.

So Bucks music hits here they come hang sang pang pang kangang and looking at them now and today, Like I said, the Racida Haroline Excalibur talks about how Page and the Bucks share a locker room, but they've been usually usually share a locker room, but they've been separated all day here in Chicago. Sound familiar, separate. That's that's gonna be normal, guys. And in a little while, Adam Page hits the ring to his music, and that's

a big Claren song. One jesus, Oh, I know he's got the clowns, got the clar Claren And I gotta, I gotta, I gotta play it because I gotta, I gotta hear because his song reminds me of something. But the yeah yeah comes out with bang dan on his face. Yeah, here we go. The ghost Town Triumph is the name of the song. Is that it? Oh? That's it? Here comes to clarin two one mm Claren Deen d Dean bosjeenan who clown Wow? How how clown bauna clown? Yeah it's kind of like it's got a little bit of a

little bit of this one of my favorite uh. And you've probably you've probably heard this because they sampled a lot in in rap songs. Uh these days better love, little little little little Medelo commercial, Little Little Little Little Yet from It's the Ecstasy of Gold, from the Good the Badly Ugly. If Hugo Jimenez didn't cut at twelve, he would never be able to start an empire. Oh Claren got that shit. It's a great fucking It's one of

the best pieces of music ever written at something. Chivanni mentions that Dag Gone Man is that him? That's enyall get out. Tony mentions that Adam Page and Kenny Omega have separate entrances and like the young Bucks, So read into that what you will. This is where you see some of the flashing bracelets in the crowd on the fans. Omega with the so getting Kavin Hiven, So getting Ding Kavin Kavin So getting Ding Haven song iron Man with Pack had

just happened. There was a great thirty minute match between Pack and Keny Omega on Dynamite that went into overtime. On the Dynamite preceding this event, so perhaps even more of a remarkable performance from Kenny Omega when you considered that he had just done that a few days before at that point, probably the best match to air and aw television at at that point in time, And they

make reference to that. On the year Jr. Explodes, this is a sellout crowd, this pay per view, How can it get any better than the He just like suddenly realizes and there we go. It's the match, the greatest match in US history, the greatest, better than anything you've ever seen. But of early shoving and mouthing off. They hangman toward Kenny, and Kenny has his hands on his chest like calm down, cold Adam Page, by the way, the love child of actors ethan Oh, I got

that one right here in my head, very Nick. The straps are hoisted lamist titles and wrestling. I don't understand why the w belts, the tag belts suck so much and why they've never redesigned them. Excalibur plugs the books that Bucks had just come out with, and Nick and Kenny get its started. Lock up. Kenny shoots to the wrist lock Nick tags Matt, who rolls away from the pressure on grabs a wrist of his own hammer lock by

Omega as the terminator clap breaks out in the crowd. Here in Chicago, Nick with a flying mare and a single leg over the top of the cart wheel and a sidestep, and Kenny rolls underneath. Nick goes from the full nelson to an armbar attempt. Kenny whiffs when he lands on his feet. Single knuckle luck exchange by Nick into a Luca arm drag by Nick Jackson, and then Kenny goes to the head scissor and yeah, Nick tries with an

uppercut. Kenny gets off the the path knowing it's coming. So there's some indication that Kenny's got all the moves ready and downloaded and ready to counter, ready to anticipates. Right, He's got him downloaded, he has put them in a sequence, and he is prepared for editing. That's correct. The announcer's putting over how much time they tell guys spend together and how they've spent more time with each other than their families, et cetera, et cetera.

Leon don't have families, most of them, I mean the bucks do. But Kenny DAPs up Nick and tags Adam Page to a big pop. Matt comes in as well, and the Cowboys shit chances are in strong order already. In February twenty twenty, they explode with that the guy was over and it's still over, actually more so than you'd expect considering how little he's done. You know, I just you know, he's another guy. He just kind of I like him and I don't like him more, but something just

rubs me the wrong way about him. They're interesting, you know, there's just like, I don't know, there's so much Like it's funny because because any other place I would totally and listen, what I'm saying here is completely hypocritical. But it's like, because all I ever do is harp about equality

and how people should be treated right and all that kind of shit. But then at the same time, I see these fucking bozos and I'm like, all they do is whine about not being treated right and about fucking see him punk and shit, no, no, no no, and it's like, fucking deal with it. He's it's a fucking bully, Like get over it. Yeah they did. They dealt with it all right, Yeah, I

know they won. They did win. They did win finally, and you know, Page hasn't done a media interview and fucking eighteen months because of this ship. You know, he can't even he doesn't even want to bitch about it, but grow the fuck up, man. Well they did. They handled it like men, I mean, unless you want them to it. It's a fucking wrestling business. Yeah, well, punks, that's what it's all about. Fucking bad you know, you know, bashing people and whatever.

Yeah, I mean, if they could get together do business, I agree, but I kind of lost faith that they could ever be business here. They'd just be punk finding some other reason to be aggrieved. And you know, he's like, you ever know we talked about this, Punks a bitch. It's like, you know, any hardcore guy you've known, it's like straight edge guy. Like they compensate for that clean living by being like

completely impossible to deal with on a personal Yeah. Yeah, exactly, so aggressively afraid that you're judging them, that they actually fire the first shot every time. I'm not. I'm not defending see him Punk in anyway. I think he's a douchebag. I think see Him Punk is a douchebag. But I enjoy the fact that people come back to him all the time. Oh totally, yeah, absolutely, because that's what I always missed. The business is so in awe of somebody who will actually step to you, you know.

Yeah, same thing, like the big same problem Trump La Chad, with Kurt and stuff. It's like they just they don't know what to do with someone that can act, that will actually try to fuck you up, and they create, they build these huge artifices around the person so they don't have to be confronted with the chance that it'll actually go down. Like you were afraid it would go down when you were in high school, you know, and you weren't that guy. You weren't about that life. You weren't

ready to step up and survive a street fight. You know, you would have a street fight and you'd be scarred for the rest of your life, you know. And I don't mean physically, I mean mentally. You know, some people can't take that kind of The business has been much more open to people that are afraid of of confrontation in the past decade or two.

I guess that's just kind of like a weird thing to me, Like, how how can you be afraid of confrontation In a business that's all about confrontation, you thought you built an oasis from that by surrounding yourself with like minded guys who came up the same way, who are in the business because they love the thrill of performing and the camaraderie of it. And listen, you

know what this sounds like a This sounds like a person. So I worked with a woman one time, and I'll know they ever forget this because it was so mind boggling to me. I did a show with a woman and I remember open night of the show and she was looking very very weird and we're getting, you know, kind of friendly and stuff, and you know, and so I just I said, hey, are you okay? And she said, oh, I'm okay. I just this happens all the time.

I'm really I get I'm I'm just totally freaked out, nervous for the first three weeks of a show. And I'm thinking to myself, that's all typical contracts are is like three weeks maybe four time after being freaked out. Most contracts like right, how do you? How do you do this? Why do you want to do this? You would think that people that have that kind of issue, would choose another business or would be so bad at

it that right? And I mean the wrestling business is completely built on confrontation. Yes, most of it is fake confrontation, but like, if you're afraid of confrontation, this is not the business for you. Well yeah, I mean that's I'm sorry. That's the thing is these guys, they they were able to create a w without that by keeping well, I mean, they got it done. They got the gut rid of the guy he's coming back for now, that's true. Maybe he's happy. I doubt it though,

Yeah, but you know, there's always somebody else. If it's not Punk, it's somebody else. Mark Henry made remarks like that where he was like, the problem's gone, so I'm sure everything's going to be fine. I look forward to no more problems, right, but that's always problems. Hey, maybe the problem isn't actually just the guy that just got let go.

Maybe it's the guy who runs the fucking show. There's still aggressiveness, but it's passive, right, because that's right, because that's so much fucking better. Oh it's not, but I mean, that's that's that's the business. Now. It's like instead of confronting someone who pisses you off, you try to find ways to marginalize them in secret. It's much more corporate, right, Well, what you what you do is you go online and you

and you say something something vague on Twitter, and people are punk. Was so headfucked by that atmosphere that he started accusing people of trying to gin up negativity about him in the anonymous you know through are not on his tips. And it turns out he was wrong. People he thought were the parties guilty of drumming up stuff about how he was difficult than a piece of shit and

stuff were not the people that were doing it. And he's one of those guys that like is so, but there were people, there were people who were doing it. Apparently there were people who are doing it, yes, But he was just to this. He was directing his venom in the wrong direction. Like he came into that press conference for the Big Brawl with this whole idea that one of the reporters was someone that was responsible for this, that and the other and the ports like it was I don't like that guy

that you think I like, And it kind of fell apart. His whole narrative fell apart right there, you know, as far as like who's he's gonna point fingers at and it's like, you know, it's like it has nothing to do with business. It has everything to do with like feeling like you won an argument. And that's just forget it, forget it. We're not headed to Brett Sean here, well we are, We're headed to Brett

Sean, and that it won't consummate in business. Ultimately, you won't leverage that heat to It'll make a great documentary in thirty years and maybe you can make money off that, but for now, nobody get money off all this. In fact, people lost a lot of money because a w took a noticeable dip in popularity after the brawl out thing happened. And they've been right, oh yeah, right, I remember, I remember it, did I mean yea anyway, But again, you know, look at look at you

know, look at the institution, don't look at the individuals. If there was someone at the top that the wrestlers didn't think they could do whatever they wanted and he won't do anything, then it would be different. But you know, I can't. There wouldn't be an aw if Tony Kahn was a take charge boss. People wouldn't want to work for him. It would be he wouldn't have a company to fucking crack whip on. Yeah you know,

it's like, yeah, it's all my money. It's like no, yeah, okay, fine, then I'll leave and then all your money doesn't matter, so you need There is nobody. There is nobody who makes me want to vomit more on TV than whenever I see that face. Yeah, he's got a problem with the face, for sure. When I see his face, all I want to do is like I just see everything wrong with him when I see his face. Yeah, Yeah, he's got a way of

that. I've seen him in certain he can he can be in certain atmospheres where you can kind of get the sense of who he might be on a personal level. And he's a huge, huge, incredibly passionate wrestling fan. And sure he's on a degree that no booker has ever been like to the point where he knows more about your career than you know about your own career, or recalls more about your career than he said. He's a deep, deep wrestling nerd, and no one like that has ever had the book.

And you can kind of say Eddie Gilbert was kind of like that, but Gilbert was first and foremost a performer in his own right, a worker. You know. Yeah, it's a new it's a new kind of person to be running a wrestling company. And then you've got people on this is how we shouldn't manage it. All of a sudden, everyone's got a fucking master's degree and like, you know, human capital management. He needs to crack what op he needs, so he needs to step in. This idea that

like these guys can be tamed is a total joke. It's like, this is business. Just like you said, Vince understood this long ago. So he has to be the biggest rascal in the room because you're never going to be above the fray of fucking backbiting behavior and wrestling it is a backbiting business. It has to be. There's no other way to say, operate who's going to make the most money at the end then cutting people down, and you know, aws formed with this ethic that that doesn't have to be this

way and we can all operate in harmony. It's like, yeah, so long as you only hire like a thirty people, you know, and that might have worked, you know, cycle people in and out and keep the Bucks in the and and Mega is the core and a couple of their best buddies. I don't know, I don't know whatever, I mean, that's what happens. I mean, you know, Tony Kahn isn't obliged to only hire people that the young bucks get along with. He wants to hire anybody

that that can generate revenue. And he's a huge Sampunk fan clearly, So whatever. Maybe maybe he'll hire a Triple H next when endeavor. I think that's the next thing that he should do. I can't wait for Shane McMahon to come out when he's fucking aw shows one of these weeks. That'll be something or Stephanie. Oh, can you imagine that would be? That would be fun. I would lose my mind to see a McMahon in there,

a fuck you to mince. Oh God would that be if I could see If I could see Stephanie McMahon as all elite that graphic fucking on the aw Twitter, I would be a lights go out to come back on she slaps the shit out of like I don't know, Britt Baker or something, I don't know who. Yep, yep, yep. Oh yeah, fucking kicks her in the pussy. Oh there's that. I guess we could brook it even further. Yeah, just fucking like just waffles her in the in the

fucking twitter. So more to come more from the match here, u Omega DAPs up Nick Jackson and tags to a big pop that Jackson comes in as well. And and of the two, Matt Nick, Matt was the one that really had the most active problem with Adam Page. He's the most expressive in terms of like trying to antagonize Adam Page and such. So this is supposed to be a big moment. The cowboy shit chance to coplode again and they lock up. Page goes to the wrist lock, Matt kIPS up,

grabs one of his own. Let's see Page, Okay, Matt goes to the drop toe hold and to the front face lock. Yeah. Page explodes on the canvas into a reversal. There's a lot of grappling. They come back up in a huff. It's got a lucy goofy exchange, Lucy goosey exchange between the two. But they're trying to show some you know, chain wrestling early right, like I can beat you in sort of like standard rules. Here, Matt offers his hand with a smirk. Jim says that Jim

Ross is on. I don't know if Matt since or here, and Page spits in his face instead, and Matt Jackson starts to boil goes goes all ape shit heel on him. The DNA running down the face of Matt Jackson Jr. Says that's how he chooses to describe described saliva double leg takedown, and Jackson starts peppering out in Page with punches inside the guard and they're still

channing cowboys shit to the side Mountain. Matt continues to haul off and Kenny comes in and tries to stop it from getting two out of hand, and Matt shoves him like he's in total you know, bull sees the red uh red mode. Nick. You know, I'll tell you. You know, Matt Matt Jackson as a heel. I'm okay with it. Yeah, I

don't mind it. Well, when they really when they really broke through as an indie sensation, while people loved coming to see them, they were carrying themselves like heels, like really, yeah, yeah, they've never really been I don't want to say comfortable as baby faces, but they've never really gone full baby face. They've always been very contin ring of honor. Shows them being full baby face annoying. Do you remember that, Yeah, yeah,

that's that. I feel like I don't remember that period. No. I feel like they always kind of because that was their whole swagger, you know, like we're trying to piss you off. Like they never like got past that stage of of like trying to be antagonistic towards critics and stuff. Everyone was loving them at night. Yeah, well it worked for them for a time. People fell in love with that, but it's not a baby face act. It's it's pretty much a heel act. And Nick finally puts a

stop to the bickering between Matt and the other side. So you've got Nick Jackson literally stopping his own partner from fighting with their opponents because it's getting that's funny, that out of hand. Jr. Says. The bottom line is these teams all have families, and we joke about the families occasionally, but they've got to be fake. There's overhead, there's school clothes and being the champion needs you make more money, and I'm like, there's there's there's overhead

and they gotta be overfed. What are you talking about? Man? Like what they got families? They got about, they got schools, you know, God damn it. They gotta pay. They gotta make lunches in the morning, damn so like they gotta put Come on, we gotta have ham and cheese sandwiches. We're gonna happy a better and jelly sandwiches in bag lunches. Come on, fans, we gotta think about what's real here, damn it. His tag match in hist us history and chairs talking about lunchables and

capri sons. So because one kid, because one kid, God damn it, one kid wants an oreo, one kid wants the chips. Ahoy, damn it. You gotta decide, my damn it. These are people, these are families. They get decisions to make. It's not just about the damn We're gonna get lunches to make at that raid im, they gonna have cheerios, damn it. Yeah, we haven't talked about breakfast yet. I'm just talking about the school all of a sudden. I mean, the kids

used to love these fucking French toe sticks. I bought ten of the BJ's. Now none of them, want to get any of them. The agles are at his time. My god, damn it, mom, I just want the fucking the looking charms. Damn it, don't. He's like, Jimmy, Okay, you're right there, pellets and tag match. You just said fuck about looking your charms? Are you okay? Sorry? Just need another pack of cigarettes. Come out on damn corner, some fucking cigarettes.

Damn it. I can't handle no fucking mare, no wonder. He stops screaming, so I Adam. Page slaps Nick. Nick has been kicking from gutting no over double team. Now Matt lifts Nick into a flying leg drop and then a backflip and an ankle scissors holds Kenny in place, trapping him on the apron, and that opens up Nick drop, kicking him down to the floor. Then Matt comes let's see from the back door to the apron.

Nick on the charge, his bootcuts caught. He spung around, and Matt goes outside in with a cent on backsplash, knocking down Kenny on the top. He does a baseball slide through basically through Kenny into the guardrail, and then Page comes across the knee of Nick and Matt hits a running, flipping neckbreaker, driving him down with the canvas, and they're talking about the Assassins, the tag team, the Assassins. For some reason, that's exactly

what you want to talk about. You definitely compare these guys, those fat fucks about fucking what's his name joy? Jody Hamilton's Jody Hamilton, his fucking face just bleeding out of his mask because he's so fat. That goes for a slam on Page, who hits the go behind and slams a forearm into the back, And it's time for Matt to sell his historically bad back. They mentioned how no one knows the back issues of Matt Jackson better than Adam

Page as he drives a knee to that tender body area. Excalibur talks about the long cramped bus rides these four took in Japan tours and how they used to take shifts icing Matt's back, take shits, icing take shits. Is that they take ships as well? I'd imagine these four men took ships on the same bus jr For years. Are these these four men took ships on Matt's back for years? So I guess that's the thing they would ice him up to get him ready for the next town. Adam Page with a hard

slap tag to Kenny. Kind of aggressive there. Kenny brushes that off that antagonism, gets in hits a running side backbreaker out of the corner on Matt Jackson for two. Kenny, not being shy about attacking the back here, Page then tags in with the double axe to the back of Matt Jackson, slugs Nick off the apron as well. Matt to the floor, goes into the rail falls to his knees. Yea. They scream, get the hell out of my way, plays clearing the area here is Kenny stops Page from

I don't know power bombing I guess Matt Jackson into the table. He was trying to do that, but Omega stops him. This is enough enough when he rolls Matt into the ring to a chorus of booze that you know, I can appreciate that, that sort of bit of drama where they're like, yeah, exactly, we're here to compete chorus of booze, which is interestingly what Adam Page is interested in. Yes, as is John Moxley. Uh Kenny with a chop, Adam chops, Kenny chops Adam chops you know.

Then Matt blocks the bulls eye at page, slams right back into the back and stays on top of that damaged back. There's a double team referee Knox is pretending to be distracted as the back suplex is attempted. Matt lands on his feet, tries his double Northern Lights suplex thing that he does, but the backbone hold it. Ah, yes, attack it, and then Matt goes up and explodes and gets the move off. Finally gets the the Northern lights off, but he's screaming in pain as he does it. And we

clap, don't we That's right tag to Nick, great applause. Jackson comes in like crazy forearm head kick Jr. Takes takes at the moment to remind us of what is at steak everything. That's what's a stake everything? Actually, what's it? Steak is in my mouth? Everything's at steak. Yeah, everything's at steak. Everything's all mistake in my mouth. Everything's at the steakhouse. Jim's right, We're almost there. So Nick does his big hot

tag spinning knee in the corner. The combination bulldog and clothesline on both a combination suplex and pin. That's the Michael Buffer vertical lift and drop. Vertical lift, drop and pinning maneuver sounds riveting. How long did it take him to come up that name? The jack Kemmer vertical lifting PINCK told him to write that, like, there's no way he came up with that in his own vertical lift that's the best description ever. But jack Hammer vertical lift,

slam, drop and pin brought to you by Daisy Sour Cream. No one told him to say that. The announcer who shouts out sponsors who didn't sponsor vertical lift drop slam pin brought to you by Mission Tortis. That's awesome. That'd be men on a Mission Tortillas brought to you by crack Lift. I can see the synergy this This minis trios match brought to you by porn Hub for reasons that will go and explain with this this synergy maneuver vertical lift,

drop and pin brought to you by you porn dot com. Christ Oh Good, I love the idea of Michael bufferd just having random, completely non sanctioned sponsors for matches and maneuvers. This move brought to you by what a what a way to sell, every possible way. Every move brought to you by Market Basket brand English Muffins. Who's Finisher the stuff Pile Driver is presented tonight by the Nuclear Safeguard Inspectors of the International Atomic Energy Age. Actually visit hi

aea dot org for more. Oh oh god, because they have reasons to reach the wrestling audience with their advertising dollar fuck, what the fuck fuss I'm gonna save the planet or not from enriched uranium. It's enough that there's inched carnies in the building. Oh good, But the sponsored the move. I'm sponsored a show, but I'm moving. They don't want the apron, They don't want the presenting sponsorship. They don't want to be on the posts.

They want to sponsor one guy's finishing. When the move happens the fucking website just like all of a sudden, you know, you get that imagine the finishing sequence, okay, and then all of a sudden the picture zooms out, all right, so you get like a picture in picture deal. The finish of the match is happening in this tiny square while there's a fucking add a massive ad and you don't even know what happened into the match because they

sponsored the move. That's when the ad happens. See Nick Cohn had a great idea. He said, you know, why don't we saw what the announcers say during the matches as well as what the led board on the wall says and what the posts say and all that. And it became a problem because when it kind of ruined the WrestleMania main event when Roman Reigns went for the spear on Cody and Michael Cole had to call it the cinnamon toast crunch

splash at the top of his lungs. It's a cinnamon card splash. He hit it, He hit it. But enough about a big show at the restaurant that morning. Oh my god, Strong Cold just hit the Raggles stunner. The un It's one night only. They never call the move that again. They go right to calling it the stone Cold Stunner the next night, dunter. And when he hits it, there's like a there's like a graphic of like red sauce exploding like blood. Oh ray, ray, mystereo has

Austin theory and position for the Motel six one nine. We'll leave the light on for him, pal. He just left the light on for Austin theory. Thanks Jim. By the way, why did they rehire you? It's pretty funny. The gorilla glue press, it's all there. Let's see Uncle Elmer's glue. Yes, he just said Uncle Elmer's glue. Tyson turkey leg drop. I mean, what the fuck do you want? Man? What does it end? It doesn't end? A Costa rana. Oh my god, Luger picks him up in the Tornelini rack. No, no, he

does. He picks him up. He picks him up. And the smoky Bones half rack. No, no, no, oh, it goes Bratton sliding it up. He's lining up the side. Jeddo sharp cheddar shooter. Oh my god, we're just pulling him up. And the chili's cleaning, brother, Jim, stop having fucking wet dreams on the air here, frog legs splash when they're in petty Oh oh fuck that good stuff. Oh shit.

And then, of course, finally Gunter's classic power steak bomb. Oh my god, I'm thinking he gave him a large with Jardinia whatever it is. Oh my god. You know I'm sitting here and thinking, wow, all right, gay pick a w Revolution twenty twenty Oh that's the show with that great Young Bucks tag match. I can't wait to hear JP and US, and I'm gonna talk about what subtleties will pick up on how we'll contextualize in the in sort of the larger discussion of what makes great tag team wrestling.

And we're sitting here going steak power bomb like Beavis and butt Head. I swear to god, Oh my god, I mean it's got to be worth its fucking greatest thing Byron iron Man. Match brought to you by iron Man, the movie Damn good one Ris Path Iron supplements as well. Oh fuck, oh oh, I hope it happens. Okay, oh shit, hurt. All of that is to say, it's not about food. It's

about great tag honestling, right, It's about it's about workmanship. So Nick, after running a while, tooks up the knuckle lock, does the slap, goes at the top with his double springboard Escalera into a hurricane rana on keny Omega and then he does the rising meat in the corner on Adam Page, kicks him from the apron, gets on Kenny does his outside in X factor on Page and then he backflips after landing that under the apron and Moon

salts off of it onto Kenny Omega Jr. Calls Nick Jackson perpetual motion. I am a fan of that. He comes from the apron over the top X factor right plants the guy's face and then from the seated position backflips through the ropes to the apron, stands in the apron and Moon salts. Always works for me, Sure all right? It gets to the apron and does

an outside in sunset flip and steps through into a sharp shooter. Keny Omega gets into is a running again, that would be that would be a cab at sharp cheddar shoes right, exactly right, and then he does the Katari crush or whatever he calls that thing the famous or breaks that up page then tags Kenny gets in there. Nick to the floor. Kenny gets the terminator chant going, but before he can do the dive, Matt cuts it off to a chorus of booze. Right, hands are thrown and Matt hits the

ropes into Kenny's hurricane rana. I always love how Kenny snaps off those RNA's on the guy charging at him. Sure that goes to the apron and we're back to the terminator chance, Kenny charges, goes for the Swanton dive, but as he takes off, Matt Jackson puts a kick out there that cuts Kenny off just as he's about to soar, very nicely timed and then playing any of the idea. These guys know each other like the back of their

respective hands, and Ken, you know he didn't hold up. Sometimes you can see a guy who knows he's not gonna actually hit the movie he's going for, and it shows in his body language. He convinced me he was ready to launch. Roll to the middle, nickets two to the front. Facelock goes Nick Jackson, Matt Jackson or Nick sorry, whatever the case it

may be. Alexcaliber points out that Nick and Matt have cornered Omega here and had cornered him in the pock match that past Wednesday and Dynamite, so they were still friendly despite being an opposing sides of the ring here on the pay per view and would always do that in Japan as well the Bucks when a company Omega. I remember seeing them rings side for some of the Ocada matches

we reviewed all those months ago. Yeah, right, and EXCaliber makes the excellent point that, you know, looking at it now, what they were doing was getting the best view you possibly could of what Kenny Omega's in ring tendencies were. And they're using advantage here. Nick holds the front facelock, Kenny fights fights free, let's go and Kenny, let's go and no, Marty, I'm sorry, there's let's go Kenny, let's go Bucks Chance. Oh, there we go. Nick knocks Adam Page off the apron and kicks

Omega tags met double weapons. That's that's the thing there. This is another example of what I think is fantastic. Why I like this match is that because again you think you know what's happening, and there's a twist because you get you get Omega doing a somersault to make the hot tag, which any other match would be the hot tag. But Nick Jackson is over at at Adam Page. He sweeps Adam Page and he and the tag is not made. There's nothing there. Yep, it's great stuff. It's really good that

way. It is really good. Boot up on Matt Lowbridge nickets out of there, nickels out of the ring, Kenny cross to the corner, can't make it. Matt goes to the front, facelock slugging away, and yes, Page gets in ref stops him from you know, getting all pissed off and getting involved in the match. Jair says he can almost fear water water about to boil over in this thing is Matt goes to the goes to the check. So he was talking about you know, the thing is he actually

wasn't talking about the match. He had a he had brought a hot plate roast and he was actually he was making pasta actually on the floor. That does a corner charge and Nick yanks Page again just as Kelly Kenny does the role to the booze you just mentioned that. Oh there you go, that's the one you're talking about, right, that's it's it's a match full of stuff. Kenny turns into the boot of one of the bucks and Matt as a pile driver and get that great Rob Van Damn style sell by Omega where

you kind of bounce off the match. Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Sobert gets two tagged to Nick Jackson, now who puts the front face lock on Pages, slapping the buckle, trying to motivate Kenny

there with it the crowd. Omega rises, Nick slugs Page Page answers with some right hands, gets the boot up and Kenny Omega runs into that and does basically the dealo Brown Sky high power bomb on Nick Jackson does Kenny megap At this point, Omega tags in Adam Page, who starts dropping the Bucks with four arms, who goes to the corner, gets the boot up on a charging Matt. Nick gets on the apron and eats a springboard clothesline by

Adam Page, Matt into a Falloway slam by the hangman. Page kIPS up right into a slingshot flip dive on Nick out of the ring, so he's channel. He's a chaining together offense, to say the least. Yes, indeed it closed lines Matt out of the ring and backdrops. There's a backdrop. Page lands on the apron, gets the boot up on the charge. Nick with the back elbow, though stuns him. There's a double team by the Bucks and they both try to pull him in the hard way from the

apron, but both bunks Bucks are actually sent to the floor. It's kind of a nice way to get both guys out of the ring. They I agree, and it actually it makes sense. It's not it doesn't feel forced it feels logical, and it's a nice way to get them both discombobulated on the floor enough to give Page time to climb to the top rope and do the Orahara Moon Salt soaring for the industry risking at all And again, it's done well, it's done tight. It's not exactly all right, it's done.

It's done in a way that it actually makes sense. It's not it doesn't. It's not bothersome because you don't have like eighteen guys just standing there waiting. It's timed right so that he leaps kind of right when they're in the right position. Adam Page isn't an idiot going for this risk right because right hoping that everyone guy's not moving out of the way, he's actually kind of hold at a time he realizes that they're out of sorts enough and just

hit the floor that he can hit it, and he scores. And they're also they're considered enough to like wait for him to get up there, Like the timing has to be right for those moves to work. But when you got six guys all standing up at a group at the same time while they're still waiting for the guy to climb up to the top rope. That's not so bad. So a Page with a running starter thing if anything, If anything, the guys should be up on the top rope first, and then

the guys kind of stand up and then he can go agreed. Yeah, we all know what it looks like when it's done right, just not everybody can pull it off. It's not usually done right. I would say that's it's done right about maybe two percent of the time. I think Page it's thropes three times and nails Nick with a lariat, turning him inside out. Jar said, it's like a John Deere tractor running him over. Yes, he does, but the John Deer Reynold ring or a stand hands in one

of the two same difference set standing, we're green, okay. Jim Page throws Nick to the corner he wants bat and Matt makes the tag and gets in there. Fuck him up, cowboy, they chant, they want Matt to eat ship at the hands of the cowboy. They get in the middle of their jow jacking, Matt throws a right hand at and Page throws and they go, oh yeah, yeah, nope, nope, see this is this is this is one of the parts that I just they lose me here, she changes, I hate that. I hate I hate the the boo

yes, slugfest. I can't stand it. It's so it's so just corny and it's so lame. I just it's so unbelievable. It's you even hate it when they do it in Japan. And in Japan the crowd is you know, they accept it as part of the language of the match, and they go for it because these guys are supposed to be staying there. See, you take the best shot the other guy can take. It's so stupid. Jay called it out and all out in London all En in London.

He said, I don't understood this. As they start doing it with Koda Bushi in the middle of the ring, I just I've never I've never. It just always takes me out. I it always rubbed me the wrong way and I never knew why. And then I'm like, oh, yeah, because they're just waiting, right, They're waiting to get hit. Like how stupid is that? Stop doing it? Yes, not hard, Stop doing

it. It's awful. It is absolutely awful and it's not you know, And the fact is people you have you have hoodwinked people into thinking that it's a worthwhile thing. Yeah, right, because it's like vaguely Japan. That doesn't make it right good, sorry, right right. So there's a that's brought to an end as Matt Jackson does kind of a cross chop across the throat of Adam Page and hits the ropes, but a big boot by Page

kills him. Blind tag in the corner by Kenny Omega, who gets in it as a lariat flying back suplex, and then Kenny shoves Matt into the air into a German suplex by Adam Page. He's airborne and he gets jumped on his head and it's a bad landing for Matt Jackson, but he turns out to be okay. Kenny does get the dead lift, gut wrench, hardass power bomb, stacking at Matt Jackson for two. Kenny then tags Page. Matt explodes with bright hands, does a corner charge forearm hits the corner.

Page charges, but Nick is there with that common Gary kick from the apron to Adam Page tag to Nick. Nick comes in with a running knee to the face and then a forearm, and Kenny comes in and eats a superkick and then Pitt of the single knuckle lock. There's a double springboard and he's caught and shoved, but he does the moon salt does I think it's nick right and lands on the ramp instead of the floor. Yeah, it's

wild. And then so because he's able to land on his feet and recover, he's able to run, jump over the ropes, clear the ropes, and hook a Canadian destroyer on Adam Page getting too it's I'm i'm I'm, i am done with those fucking summer sault maneuvers. Will you flip whether their code, whether their code reds or cane destroyers, I'm over it. I'm done. That gets some plods. During the double down, Nick charges on the board wheel back elbow from Adam Page, nails on Adam Page climbs,

but Matt stuffs his head into the buckle and Nick kicks it. They don't slap the thigh there, so it sounds like nothing lands like with a power bomb on ap and Adam Page, and while he does that, Matt does kind of a slice bread, so he picks him up in the power bomb form. It's like a doomsday device, except instead of clothes lining up from the power bomb position, he gives him the the slice bread off the top. Yeah, that gets to two counters of megap breaks it up. Speaking

of slice bread, Jack Gym's all about the slice bread. He says, slice bread. You can say they're on a roll too. The motor cyt of machine guns get a shout out by Excalibur for that. That move Matt and dumps Kenny lining up a double superkick, but Page catches one and throws Nick Nick's leg into Matt. They start slugging it out. Matt HiT's nailbow hands up to block the superkick, so Adam Page just switches and kicks the knee instead. Oh my god, Okay, then does the spin and jumps

into the a chicken wing. There's some hand fighting going on as a Page tries to luck in his submission. Nick Jackson then climbs Matt rolls back as Nick comes down across Adam Page with a four fifty splash to break the hold that covers him for two ano. They're double down and this is awesome chance. That's that's something these guys do exceptionally well. As it's like two guys are like involved in some kind of struggle and someone flies in from out of

the frame with a crazy ass high flying move. Yeah, Matt lifts Page to his shoulders. He drops down, shoved into Nick. Nick does a toe hold, Matt is thrown into Kenny. He's lifted. They do that you can't escape thing where Omega get you on his shoulder, does the forward

roll and then the moon salt and only does that. Page does a shooting star first, So there's a bit of double team work there from the Champions where Omega moon salt and Page does the standing shooting star press, and then Adam Page climbs to the top rope with Nick Jackson and does a following slam with a moon salt off the top. Now that is not a Spanish line that works for me. That does work for me too, very dangerous, but he does it. It's very dangerous. But also there's not a you're

not relying on the other person like he was holding it. I just squashed he was holding him, you know. So, But the idea is that he's not relying on the guy to do a somersault. He's in complete control of the guy and that works for me. And that looks like it hurts, So I'm okay with that, yep. I don't know how he gets his head trying to flip with someone in the arms like that off. I mean, I don't know what he's gonna do to make sure he gets the

rotation right. But that was scary and all the time, and I always feel like he's a second away from landing on his head. He gets a two count off that big move. Page then scrambles for a power bomb. He slams down Nick rolls back into a V trigger to the back of the head, and then Adam Page covers Matt, but it's broken up. The counter to another round of hearty applause from the crowd here in Chicago. Kenny comes in. There's an a dub chant. He tries to do the V

trigger but misses it and goes right into a standing me that maneuver. I don't like that. I only understand the name the V trigger. It's something from a video game. We talked about it when we did the Okada series. I forget where he gets it from, but it's it's some sort of reference to a video game. I believe. Okay, well I don't guess.

So let's see Nick lands on his feet when he tries to I think Omega tries to suplex him or something, and then there's a superkick that gets caught, and then he lands the V trigger and then Matt comes in ducks the full Nelson avoids the snap mare, hits the ropes and does the V trigger and his face who does the V trigger pardon me for not anyway hold on something? Lands uh, and then Omega explodes with the Snapdragon sup plex on Nick Jackson Jr. Lets out a noise on that one, and then

it does another one on Nick Jackson. Nick is limping now a double underhooks from Omega and he does the Tiger Driver ninety eight on Nick Jackson. That gets to Jared says ninety eight was a very good year, but apparently not good enough. Tony Schavali declares that the crazy some of the craziest things he's seen in his in many damn years. Fight Forever Chant breaks out, which went on to be the title of the w video game. Nick slouches down

in the corner with his back to Kenny. The V trigger lands to the back of the head. Omega then lifts and climbs into the angels wing Angel wings position, the one wing an Angel. Sorry, he's got him on the top, but Nick fights it off and falls backward encounters what was Omega's attempt to hit a top rope one winged angel with a reverse hurricanan of the poison run as it's called. And so oh, that's a that's a fucking brutal thing. Yeah, when you come down behind the guy and run him

from that, that that is a brutal looking move. Worsing that got a moon salt on his own head to sell it, and he spikes him tough. That is a tough fall for Omega. Page comes in with a lariat on Nick and that he turns and Matt does his series of Northern Lights suplexes from the ring all the way onto the ramp, and he keeps doing them one after the other like the series of Germans, except it's a series of Northern Lights suplexes and he doesn't three of them on the ramp, and on

the third he just tosses him. It's so nuts. Into all this the paper money that fell from the ceiling for the young Bucks entrance that goes flying his Page bumps the ramp and Jr. Puts over the thought that you know, Nick, actually pardon me, Matt actually hesitated before launching Adam that one last time, but still get it. Perhaps a soft spot showing for a minute there there's great crowd cutaways here with drop jaws, kind of as it

described by Gabe up in the Miltary Box. You know, people like or shocked at how how many more layers there are to this match. It just won't stop. Yeah, it does keep building. It's pretty it's pretty wild. So Matt gingerly leaning on his own now to pick Adam Page up and

kind of selling the back nicely. He like kneels down to pick him up because he can't bend over because the back still hurts, screaming at Nick to get your ass up because they're trying to hook up a double team move and it's the tombstone, the indie taker thing where they pick you up at a tombstone position, the other guy flies in and spikes you. They do another ramp to Adam Page driving his head into the ramp and Nick soaring from the

ring to spike him tough back in a superkick party breaks out. Matt shouts, Kenny turns, Nick hesitates it doesn't want to kick him, and then Matt directs him to do it. Nick shoots the kick Matt as well, and he grabs his eyes and they both nail him. Kenny like covers his face like here it comes. I can't do anything about it, and he folds. Jerre says, we got to be towards the bottom of the ninth year. There's a double V trigger on Kenny by the Bucks, so they

go there using Kenny's own move against him. But then Kenny kicks out at one and he kicks out of one and they go and sing, that was pretty that was pretty wild. I was not That was not what I was expecting. I thought that was pretty bad. It's pretty bad ass because he doesn't suddenly recover. He doesn't hook up. He goes, but he kind of goes like nuts, like you would if you felt like your life was in danger and you got like one last series of swings. They go insane.

He starts punching right and left, and they rise to their feet at the explosion of Omega and another pair of super kicks nails him again, mows him down one two. Kenny kicks out at two this time. Yeah, but he doesn't fire up the second time. Should he have? As my question to you, Boss, should he have done the same thing when he kicked out at two again? Fired up? I think that could have been cool. I think that could have been cool. Yes, they didn't do

what Kenny Chance breaks out. Matt grabs the arm and stomps the bad shoulder of Kenny to a course of booze. He rips off the shoulder tape that Omega was wearing as damage from the Pack Ironman match on Wednesday. Excalibur puts over how the young Bucks see the tag titles as their destiny and that justifies a lot of the the take no prisoner's attitude they're displaying here in this match, and they're willing to go to any lengths. There's some disagreement on display

between Matt and Nick Jackson about how far to take this thing. Next, Matt is looking down at the shoulder tape they took off of Kenny Omega, and Tony remarks that Matt's hand appeared to be shaking as he considers the consequences of what they're about to do to the guy, their friendship having gone deeper than any of us can imagine, as Jaya mentioned, but they got him

back up. They lift him for the tombstone to finish this thing off, and Nick launches from the top to spike him down, but no Adam Page is there to block him. Yea puts him in the power bomb form and absolutely last rides. Nick Jackson threw a table onto the board of the Big Pop We go there we go, the big table spot on Page. Kenny gets free, tries the V trigg but it's blocked. He goes for a

second one. This one scores. Matt Jackson is wobbly as Adam Page then does the buckshot lariot and the V trigger combination, and that's got to be the finish. And this is the example it talks about that, you know, guys who know, like the fans are gonna feel this is the finish. They can just tell they're going to be convinced. And we go again, we go further wanted to know, Matt kicks out and then they lose their fucking minds, Adam they do it was pretty crazy? Is that should

have been the finish? And Adam Page's wide eyed and Kenny is selling just shock at the whole thing and then explodes with a V trigger. Excalibur remarks that Omega has one trump card left. How nobody's ever kicked out of the One Wing and Angel, And sure enough, Kenny puts Matt Jackson up to his shoulders, but he can't lift the bad arm up with a shoulder was

hard. He cannot to complete the hold. He can't very well done, so he tries with the other arm, the good arm, because he has to kind of snake his arm through to reach around the back of your neck to pull you down. But that little bit of a delay allows Matt to hit free hit the super kick, and Page comes in off a tag and it looks like he's gonna do it. He's gonna do the Buckshot Lariot.

They explode. No part part of me, not the Buckshot Larriott. Adam Page is going to do Kenny Omega's finisher, the one wing an Angel. Yes, yes, and he does it. Nobody's ever kicked out of it, but nobody's ever kicked out of it when Omega does it. Ye to Nick makes it great. It's a great, it's it's brilliant. It's actually protected that they still get the kick out of the one long Angel in the match. Ye Nick makes the save. By this point, he's recovered enough

for the power bond again and in time crowd going nuts. Tony says it's one of the damnest things he's ever seen. After the match. By the way, both Jim Ross and Tony called it the best tag match they evercalled on social media. Working for a w It's kind of like, you know, you only take it so seriously, but they were compelled to say so. Page throws Nick to the ramp. He does the buckshot lariot from in the ring to the ramp, taking Nick out, and then he turns to

the ring. Is there two minutes have elapsed and and he does it. He closes the deal Adam Page. Anytime that I see that a match is thirty minutes on Wikipedia, Like when I'm when I'm setting up my myself, I'm always like, oh fucking Christ, is it going to be worth it? Is it gonna go by fast? Is it going to be painful?

Is it going to be enjoyable? Am I going to you know the same thing, Like when we were doing uh Flair Steamboat the the hour long match, It's like, oh my god, an hour for one match, Like it's it's just a lot. But when it's done right, when it's done right, it's like nothing happened, So we'll test him into the match that you came in knowing it was that long, and it still didn't feel long. Can you imagine watching it live and having no idea when the match is

gonna end. It must feel that much more sort of epic. But after buckshotting Nick on the on the ramp, he turns around and he just does it. He closes the deal. He buckshots Matt Hardy in the middle of the ring and covers him for the one, the two, and the three. Thirty minutes five seconds, Kenny Omega and Adam Page to eat the Young Bucks to become or to retain rather the eight e W World Tag Team Championships. Here at Revolution twenty twenty, Jared simply says that's tag team wrestling.

Wow. After the replay, Jared says, you have to like what the tag team division is growing into. How seriously it's being taken here. It's not an afterthought and with teams like this, how could it ever be. Kenny make a hoist the straps as they all stand in the ring looking for some handshakes from the Young Bucks are the champions. They go to Kenny and Hug him. Page is watching, brooding, not wanting to participate in this

camaraderie. Kenny DAPs them up a Page just watches, and then Matt invites Page into the circle, and Page turns his back on all three of them, thus continuing the story gets right. The story doesn't end here. It's turns and bounces, and the story continues uncomfortable with the elite set up. If they see by the way, there was a funny moment here. I forgot to I didn't play. Uh my bad, I missed it. Uh.

This is when they do the uh the buckshot v trigger combout. This is this is Jerry, Jerry Jr. And Tony commenting on it trigger on Nation. Well, I love Hi in the Hill. Yeah, I don't understand it either. If they got out of that, nothing's gonna win this match. Head buddy Jim Ross. That's a great call. Yeah. Yeah, that was the moment. That was like the moment where it was like, this is still doing battled. Yeah. I was. I was like, what the fuck? Pretty good stuff. I couldn't believe it. I

was. I was totally taken aback. A little subtle Page hits the apron drops the belt down and motions with Kenny. Kenny's back to him like he's gonna buckshot Larry at his partner as well, Yes, yeah, but Omega turns around and sees Page, and Page waves him off like you're seeing things. Nothing was going to happen, and wow, Tony Excalibur a kind of like, I think I saw what I thought I saw, but I don't

want to accuse anybody. So it's played very well. We have subtlety if nothing else, yea, And Page gets a beer from an audience member and only better hope it's not something else as he takes a chug and that is that, so it would actually play out. The ultimate, you know, sort of conclusion of this whole thing is when Page wrestles Omega for the championship and he's on the apron, he's waiting to strike his destinies before him.

The Bucks come out. You think they're there to help Kenny, and they look at Page like we're in a position to do what Page has always accused us of doing, which is pulled the rug out from under him whenever he achieved something on his own merits outside of the group. The thing that has always rankled him about our involvement in his life, in his career, even though we feel we deserve a fair amount of credit for where he's at in

the business. And but what they do is they look at Page and they give him the nod like go ahead, like you could do it, go for it, and he buckshot. Larry's Kennyan wins the title, and that's the end of the story. Wow, we move here to the women's title matches. Nila Rose defends against Chris stat Lander. Chris stat Lander referred to back then unfortunately as what was it? What do they call her? Some kind of alien? Think? Oh, the galaxy's greatest alien. I'm sorry,

do you want me to respond to that or what? Absolutely not that that silence was exactly what I was hoping for. I can't even Chris stat Land. He was a hard worker. I'm sure she's a lovely person. I don't ever got it, never got don't give it. I push her so hard. She's the champion right now. She actually ended Jade Cargill's winning

streak. Jade Cargill was a kind of a Goldberg character they had that they obviously kept undefeated till a contract ran out and stat Lander took the belt offer and kind of like money in the bank, cash in fashion, but they always come back to her. She's been out with a lot of injuries and stuff, but they just believe in her so much. And I don't know if she's just friends with the right people or what, because she's she's good,

but she's not exceptionally good. And it started all the way back here where I felt like there was like this over emphasis on her upside and stuff were told she has setting word fire since she appeared, and I don't remember that. And she used to play up that she was an alien. Her initial character was like they refer to her as an alien and somebody that's not from this planet. It's like, what are you guys doing? Like this is so fucking stupid, Like I don't know if you think it's funny or

ironic or stop doing this, Like I don't understand. I don't I thought this was I don't know. Yeah, she's got like this huge robot on her tron and she kind of runs with like with Orange, she kind of I think she thought that she could pull that off in the ironic way that Orange pulls off not trying but still being entertaining, you know, but the

alien thing was just never had never made any sense to me whatsoever. They mentioned, even on the way to the Ring, how she's unused to the Earth's atmosphere and the evidence by that is that she's been battling a severe flu all week, which she had a real flu in real life, and they just decided to say it's evidence of her being unused to the Earth's atmosphere. And and Tony Schavanni laughs at it and just says, okay, start that again, and they laugh. So it's not like they're taking it serious.

EXCaliber is delivering these lines with a straight face. Well, I don't know's they don't do it anymore, Thank God with her, because it's so destined to fail, is doomed. And Nila Rose comes out in an orange towel. JR. She she's gonna make an enemy and taz with that, and she has some logo on her gear that Jr doesn't recognize and what does he think? It is? The Chick fil A logo. If that surprises you,

then we can't be friends. And Excalibur laughs knowing that you know NILA's trans and big trans rights and everything he goes she does not support chick Fili Jim don't go on TV saying Nila Rose has a Chick fil A logo in her ring gear. No, no, not having pretty funny. So this beck when they had the smaller women's title, which actually quite liked, but they went with like making the belt as big as the men's belt, which I understand. I don't know. I don't like it. I think it's

no, it looks weird. It looks Honestly, I felt like I was watching a feel like it was a championship belt from like nineteen fifty about it. But yeah, they changed course and that quickly. It didn't look so bad when it was on Rio's waist because she's like the tiniest woman to ever win a title in American wrestling ever. So, but as they went to like Nyla and some of the bigger women, was like, okay, yeah it does look tiny. So it's Nila Rose versus Chris stat Lander here for

the championship lock up to the corner. Crowd pretty quiet coming off that blockbuster match. Uh Nilo the side headlock push off Statland over the lad This was a bad place for them too, Yes, kind of unfortunate. That's been like a lifelong lifelong That's been a an issue at AW since the beginning. It's just these people who like count the minutes of how many how much screen

time women get. Like CON's been under tremendous pressure from the beginning to be like extra sensitive to you know, giving what is perceived to be women a fair opportunity on his shows, and yeah, and and putting them in this kind of position where they have no chance of really having a match that sounds like it's over what is actually a little more damaging to a w than it would be to be the typical wrestling promotion because of that, that constituency and

that mentality that's at play. So neither with the side headlock push off, stant Leonard does kind of a leap frog and they can collide shoulders and then they try to negotiate who's going to hit the ropes next, but Like kicks her and Nila knocks her down and stat Lander kIPS up and loses her footing though she has a bad wheel and she had a lot of knee injuries and problems and underwent big time knee surgery at a certain point in a w and

this is before she's wearing the knee braces, but you can tell the knee is very weak. Yeah, I don't care. Several times she tries to do things a lot of fans. She tries to step over to hold fills on that stat Lander flips on her and Moon salts for the two. You can hear a pin drop at this point to the ramp. Stat Lander is whipped in and leaps into the face plants trying I guess a spear, but she just lands on her face. Then Nilis spears her in the room.

That gets the crowd up a bit. That gets a two count for Nili los jarisis Nihili's big athletic, powerful woman. See that with aldue respect here, Yeah, he'll hear listen to him here. I was a big powerful woman cover and I say that in all due respect. It's an athletic, big powerful woman. Yeah, who could fly right through the ropes at time.

It's Tony. Tony says that he says that time take a fucking shine for the ropes that time and as opposed to the other time they mentioned that C two E two is next door shout out Gabe on that there we go and said that they actually saw people dressed as Chris dat Lander at that thing. I'll believe it when I see it. They all say, the Tony Shavanni about ten thousand dollars worth of Batman How do we know? How do we know? How do we know? Chris dat Lanner wasn't dressed like that.

Yeah, it wasn't really a distinctive look. And they say that Shavanni about ten thousand dollars worth of Batman stuff at the convention, and he laughs and says, you're not far off. So a Batman mark? Who knew? I didn't know that. I didn't know that at all? Did Adam West room? Like Jerry Lawler has a Coca Cola room at his house,

all creepy and shit, just sits. Sometimes sometimes you know what's his wife's name, Lois, Lois Lois. Some of those Lois will walk down the stairs and it's like she'll see she'll see him in the room and it's completely it's completely dark except there he has. He's just sitting there. She's not looking at anything. He does not manipulating. He's like sitting in the middle of the room with all this Batman shot around. But he's got kind of

he's got one of those overhead lights. But it's a bat signal, and she's like peering down on him in in the middle of the room. So he's just sitting there, sitting there, not saying anything, not He's just brooding. He's brooding like a Bruce Wayne Woods, not saying a word, Tony, no answer. He's like in a daze. He's completely in a trance. He's absorbs the batman essence. That's fine, I think, is what you're trying to say. Yeah, it's normal. Sat Leonard with a

superkick that drops Rose kind of sluggish there. Then she hits, uh, let's see hit the fuck wrote there. She doesn't intiguri dropping lead to the floor. She goes stat Lander with a suicide dive, drives her into the rail. Jeris is the king. The key thing here is that was a beautiful offensive move. Now it was offensive. Does you want to beat her by count out? You want to get her in the range best? Okay? Jim Jesus calmed down. He screaming at her for not trying to win

by anything with count out. I know stat when sat Lander throws forearms, this is what she says. That's why I got hit. Dah yeah, ta makes it better to ton of sounds like Harley, yeah heah yeah. Back in stat Landard goes up top hits se seated missile drop kick, because any any women's match worth its salt has to have a seated missile drop kick in it, because otherwise it will not have been influenced by Joshi women women's

seed hit. Dropping kicks is necessary in professional entertacks too. Tony Falter for not walking in a tight circle before covering, or four walking in a tight circle before going for the cover. She didn't want a tight circle fans and they keep talking, oh yeah, we all know what that means. And they keep talking about how she's such a breakout star and a phenomenon. And I don't remember feeling this heavy handed, but it just feels like someone backstage

really wants her to be something. You gotta that's what you gotta do. Right then you realize there's nothing. Start him first into the buckle and then a rabbit Larry at Lands for Nyla Rose stat Lander is draped on top. She does the it's just death. I mean, these at least two have nothing, nothing going together. It's such a fucking disaster. Yes, it is. She blows a kiss to the bad as Nyla, she kicks no roll up. Then he kicks her in the face. Oh, then she's

the boop. This is something stat Lander used to do. She pokes you in the head like boop on the nose. And then d I gets two and tight puts on the stf releases and goes for a splash across the knees, but stat Landard does the drop kick to the head and goes up to a power bomb off of her conrona for two. That's the beast bomb we're told landing for Nila Rose, so you know, at least they go for attempt at Rhana encounter with a power bomb that at least adds half the star.

Then Nila Rose climbs gets cut off. She's crotched trying the superplex. It's taking forever at goddamn it, and that bad wheel again. She loses her footing and falls down and Nyla has to flip over into the ring. Anyway, it's just a disaster that gets too and then stat Lander mounts with punches. Uh. Referee peels her off though for some reason, like you can't just punch somebody in a wrestling match. Now the Rose with the boot

middle of inverted is her positioning? It call this? Stat Lander cuts her off, tries for the superhook and rhana, but she's blocked hanging in the tree of woe, and Nila Rose tries, like hell the yanker from that position up to the shoulders. She beardly can do it, so she just kind of dumps her at a lazy angle from that position and off the ropes with the power bomb. One, two three, Nila Rose twelve minutes and

forty five seconds. But who's counting? Contains over Wall stat Lander here at Revolution Jr. Says the big champ is getting more athletic by the week, and I don't know what that means. Chris Statlander was a star in the making, and if you just got pinned, that's very simple. She's sure her stats have only just landed, so she may be the Native Beast,

but now it's presumably time for a Native Feast. Jr. Plugs the podcast that Vanni and Aubrey Edwards had at the time, which I don't think they have any more, and he says there's not a more personal match on the card to Night than Cody versus MJF, and they do the package in black and white with Cody tapping up MJF in the early days when they were friends,

and they say Cody was the first person who believed in MJF. Back in November, Jericho and Cody were having no I believe in NJF before everybody. That's right, you did. We were there and he was on the card because of Cody believing in him too. He just recently told the story and God damn it, I forgot the details on aw television of how he came to be on that card and how he owed somebody for and I'm sorry I remember the details, but they came up just a couple of weeks ago.

So in that Cody Jericho match, MJF actually threw in the towel, costing Cody a title shot forever. And you know, I was trying to tell Cody he did it because he thought Cody was in trouble, and and gives him a nutshot and turns on him. He says he's dead to me, and how Cody wanted to Andrew's thumb stipulations are heading into the match that

Cody can't touch Max. So they're building that contact up big time. They had a match between Cody and Wardlow and a cage in Atlanta where Cody did the moon salt for the industry on a cage that was way too high and he didn't realize that Wardlow remember that, remember when he was too when he was mjf's muscle. Absolutely, And they did another angle where m JF gave him Cody ten lashes to his bare back on television. That was good stuff,

and Cody with the moon salt is mentioned. Cody singers something a chapter in my story, Max, and that's story he's still going since indeed is that story doesn't seem to be in anytime soon. I think I have a funny feeling that story is going to never be finished, and actually he's gonna die before he writes a final chapter. You're saying he's never going to finish the story. Is that what you're saying? Right here now? I am saying, I've listen. I don't think he's going to finish the story.

The only story, I'll tell you what, The only story I think he may finish is getting that fucking seth rollins belt. Yeah, that's the only story. No, it just not absolutely not people are saying that it's definitely Cody and Roman again a mania. Well, I'll believe it when I see it Philly. I'm not convinced yet. I I I'll tell you again. You know, I said it. I said it Sunday. I see a lot of upside and the the the granted, the minimal stuff that I've seen

in uh In, mister mister La Knight. And it wouldn't surprise me if again I think that. I think Ellie Knight is is Cody's biggest threat in terms of finishing the story. Coming up in Philly April sixth and seven. We'll see. So they played the remix the m JF song and uh, oh, here you want to you want to listen to the incredible. By the way, I didn't know this, uh the band the frontman for the band, Eddie Kingston. No, I didn't. Uh here, uh here

we go. It already sucks. It is the worst live version of a wrestling theme I have ever heard. It is atrocious. It's embarrassing. And because not only does it like I mean, I feel like, what are we? What are we at a fucking bar? It just sounds so bad. I don't what are the most depressing things in life to me was the realization that not every hit musician sounds the same in concert as they do when they recorded hit single. Are they a hit? But even my point is

even great, you know popular positions sometimes yes, it's yes. It was so depressing to me that you could go to a concert hoping to hear this. These guys played this song, and when they played it sounds nothing like what you've listened to a thousand times on CD or whatever. Yep, yep.

This is an example. Sometimes sometimes that can be really great. I've sometimes sometimes when they played different than what you've heard, it's actually like, oh wow, I never I didn't think of it that way, And it can be a neat kind of alternative to really date myself, like I think of uh, there's I used to love this when I was in high school. When I was I don't say I was a huge Dave Matthews fan,

but I was a Dave Matthews fan of sorts. And I can't remember what was his first big hit it. Do you remember this first big hit at all? Make these chance? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that one, that one whatever song that was. There's a live version where there's a crazy ass long, just the drum hitting the and it's like a seven minute version of the song. And yes, it's not like it's a great alternative to the actual recording, you know, the actual album release and this live version

it's very very good. It's not the same, but it's very very good. And I always liked it and I liked having both. But yes, there are times when it's the opposite and where it's realized sound on tape because they had all the production touches right, and they knew how to fucking and see they had someone who knew how to mix properly. These guys aren't trying to do a different live version of the song. They're trying to do and this is and and not only is are they bad, but also the sound

system is bad. It's all bad. They go over the entrances on the show anyway, like there's too many of special interest, Mean, what is this fucking like it's not even their biggest show of the year, like stop like pick one? Maybe not every do it to WrestleMania, right, they do it to WrestleMania, you know, And that's okay. Sometimes I don't like it because again, more often than not, it does not sound as good as the version that they play. It hits, it really hits.

You know, it's it's it's really there's some legendary ones, but yeah, there's so many that go nowhere. So yeah, here he comes with. This is back when he's still being led to the ring by his you know is people like Brandy she's out there and the others in the track jackets and stuff. Is a pretty cool thing. You tell he's like closely studying boxing and MMA talked about this at the time, and then he also I also

was in press. He comes out with with the Kansas City Chiefs coach Andy Reid also known as Arn Anderson. Oh well, he does have the clipboard in front of his mouth, so it's clipboard. He's wear a fucking sweater vest, Uncle Arn over here fucking idiots. So yeah, I guess this is the tattoo, the neck tattooed reveal. I didn't realize that, but there it is. Cody. I do remember. I don't remember being here, but I do remember when it was revealed and everyone was like, what

the fuck is that? That's amazing time to be alive. I still think it's stupid. Cody vers m JF. Cody fires out intensely as MJF takes a powder. Tony calls it an entrance for a big times. Do you know why? Do you know why he does that? Do you know why he does that? Because m JFF is the greatest heel of the modern at okay, and I love it? I love it? Fuck up Cody. Cody dives in a single to the corner. M DF dodges that goes underneath and Cody whips on an arm track. MJF missus an elbow. He tries

the cutter that's blocked. MJF bales again, hops the rail and clips off the people in the crowd, and then you know he does Joy does fucking swipes the hat off of slaps it ref his head. Fucking awesome, come on, folks, fucking awesome. I'm sorry, he's he's you can't deny it. And there's this fan that's an all shows in Chicago. I don't know his name, but like that. He was like the first one they cut to when see him, Harvey Harvey when Munk came out the first time

at the United Center, going oh my god. You can see the way he says God because he is the god Chicago Gods. You can see it. It's spelled gah d whever that guy is. MJF throws a drink in his face, so yes he does. And that's fucking money at Jared Christ customer different, Okay, it's it's he's on a fucking different level than any per person in that costs are all right, and there there there two. I see it as a baby face in London, terrific. Yes, he's

great, he's so great. I commend both he I also commend the company for allowing him to just beasts, because it does take both sides that will lead you to the Promised Land every time. Yep, I mean, I guess, I guess it's completely I mean, it's completely the opposite of what I was just fucking saying about about John Moxley. I don't know why. I just don't care John Moxley. John Moxley doesn't make me feel anything. MJF makes me fucking feel that's what he does. John Moxley's a fucking douchebag.

So actually I don't. I guess that's where what it really comes down to is that I don't care if John Moxley's happy or not. His happiness does nothing for me. MJF being happy, that's important to me. And it's tough. It's tough to make him happy, which is a good thing. Yes, it's his character. You know, I don't know what he's like backstage because hes such a gimmick that you don't know, which is terrific. That's way it should be. Yes, that's the way. It's exactly

the way it should be. The only person who should know what MJF. There are two people who should know what MJFF is really like. His is he married the Okay sees him about that on TV all the time. All right, Well, that would have been her. But although then again, maybe he's not real with her. That's that's part of the problem. But also I would imagine, you know, Tony Kahn should know a little bit of the real im shock, so that they negotiated, they did the whole

work. Shoot, Yeah, he said he's a fucking mark and yeah, I loved it. I loved it. I thought it was great. Yeah, he's the whole thing. He's the guy, he's the guy that's going to pull off the main angle just about every time as long as he's around. Yep, yep, so yeah, JFF gets back and the rain. Cody goes to the gut drops him the kick. They exchange why hands coded to the drop down upper cut and lands a cutter for the kind of one.

Cody then runs up the aisle, goes all the way to the back and does a full sprint down the rampway and larry it's MJF over the ropes. Let's see arn Anderson quote called that play. Oh boy ah Yes. Excalibur says the phalangis of m JF were stomped. That is to say, the fingers. Yes, MJF back clips out of holding the leg and MGF stumps the toe. They mentioned that Cody came with a crushed toe. Okay,

Cody, it's forearm. MGF Jr. Says MJF always has his ear to the ground, so he always knows about injuries and things guys are trying to hide, so he has no doubt that MGF came in knowing to attack the toe. The broken toe. Cody with a multiple revolutions on an Alabama slam like that move a lot or he stops for a second spinning and then he restarts. He pulled him up at one though we didn't want the cover

off that thing. Jr. Says, m JF, can I tell you something though, there's a there's a moment here that that that we just passed, and I want you to I don't know if if I missed you saying it or what, but I think to me, this is another example of why MJF is the best. Okay, he goes to kick Cody. Cody grabs the leg thinking he's in control. Dude, that's it right there. MJF has Cody thinking he is in control. Cody is not in control. Cody attempts to flip MJFF over right. M jeff Land's on his feet,

right, Cody pissed? What does he do? He charges? What does MJF do? He pokes him in the eye. That's not even the good part. That's not the good part. The good part is right after he pokes Cody in the eye, MJF turns around and poses like he's God's gift. Oh my god, do you know why he does that? Because he is God's gift. That kind of ship is fucking money. I love it so much. I love he's around, and so you have something to get excited about. Yep, I look, the proof the proof of concept is

in folks. I mean, he's he's the only thing that's reliably great on the show. There are plenty of guys who do great stuff in a W, but whenever he's involved in is going somewhere. The four way the four pillars thing was kind of weak and goofy, but he They did a four way at double or Nothing where was him, Darby, Sammy and oh god, Jack Perry, And they were like the four pillars of a W. That is to say, the four guys that the future is built on.

And they did a four way off that storyline and it got it got a little weak. Not everybody was strong, and the promos there wasn't you know, MGF wasn't really allowed to shine that much in terms of, like, you know, one to one interpersonal issue. It's pretty good. It wasn't that bad. He made the most you could out of it. But it was a time of distinct weakness for a W with all the stuff and everything. But yeah, I agree, I'm the guy's just phenomenal to watch and

to see him so seamlessly become a baby face here is just wonderful. I'm sure Cole's going to turn on him and then we're going to get a vengeful baby face MJF instead of a vengeful heel MPF. And I'm sure that'll be great to watch. I think, yeah, I think he is just I think he is limitless. Crowd can count on you to entertain them every time

like he does that. That's when you're in the money, because it's like, you know, the crowd already is favorably disposed towards your stuff because you've so consistently delivered something that was just a little more intriguing than you would expect looking at it on paper, just a little bit better executed than you would

expect. It reminds me, he honestly reminds me in a way of of Bruno interesting and not certainly in terms of his delivery or his stature style, you know, right, But it has to do with you watch all the other ship and it's fine, But then you watch Bruno as we've known and as we've seen, and it's on a different level of intensity from the crowd. It's MJF is and in the in the in ring stuff too. It's just everything feels different, everything feels heightened. Yeah, he feels like a

guy operating on a higher level to win matches. Like absolutely, absolutely, that's pretty pretty good stuff. It is he really, he's phenomenal. Jr. Shouts up. Has m jf ever been to the woodshed before? Hey kid, you're in the woodshed? Okay, Jim, No one knows that in the wood shed before? Hey kid, you're in the wood shit, Jim, none knows what that means. Thanks. So Wardlow yanks mjf out

of the way in the charge. Then Brandy comes over to Wardlow and throws a drink in his face, acts like she did something big, and then she runs behind arn Anderson so they can't attack her. He steps to arn Anderson, does Wardlow and kind of cuts him off beautifully with a tope Wardlow, that is, she is fucking remember when she walked by us at starcasts and like the whole room, like the whole hallway at this hotel just fell into silence. Yeah, I mean she like fucking radiates. And look,

I'm she has so many positive qualities. But I'm telling you, when we talk about those days at the end where Cody was getting booed nine times out of ten, yea and it was coincident with the reality show and him, you know, oh, total and small talk over coffee at the thing at the at the fucking breakfast nook. She's not a positive for him on television. No, not unless you you wanted to be a heel. Don't be

a heel. Great, great, she's bring to see her. They want a boo her, and that's something she's never gonna be able to do anything about. And because he is where he is to be right now, consistently over because she is not involved. Yeah, get her involved and watching gorgeous eyes. She's got big tits like you just you know, everyone's gonna be pissed because they know, they know, they know how hard Cody gives it to her, and they want to give it to her too. I think

it's Yeah, I think it's that. I think it's even it's more like she's trying to you know, it's it's it's impossible for her to avoid being perceived as trying to lap up some of the spotlight. Sure, but it always comes back down to look at what he gets to go home to,

Look what she gets to fuck whenever he wants. She's out there, when she's on recumentaries, and stuff, right, but as long as she's on camera and you are reminded because just the look, just seeing her reminds you of something that you will never have that okay, I think even more, you will never have it. It's that she you know, he's he's like

elite, He's an elite talent. She is not. But out of deference to her, she's always going to share in his spotlight and just not sure, not be able to necessarily offer a whole hell of a lot to make engaging television. She tried to be a wrestler at a w as a disaster, a fucking disaster, and she insisted on it, and everyone had to sit around and kind of act like it was a great idea, and everyone knew it was a bad idea, and the market plays eventually delivered that message

to her and she went and had a baby. So that had a lot to do with it as well. But I'm sure she wants to get back in the ring. I'm sure she agitates and private moments with Cody about getting back it. Stop save save Cody from you. Think of think of the times that he think of it time. Okay, think of this, Okay, think of the times Triple h and Stephanie. Cody and Brandy have had dinner at Peter Luger's fucking hell eating steak. Come on, and she wants

so badly, like she starts talking about when can I come in? She wants she wants me Stephanie. I mean, they were Triple Light and Stephanie in the beginning of a w It's kind of sad to see that they choose to pattern themselves after someone that do. Cody's out there smashing the throne with a sledgehammer at the first double or nothing and then turning around and trying to conduct himself precisely like Triple Asian Stephanie. Ye ye. But yeah, they

get along now, so it's fine. Imagine the amount of rope he fucking shoots on her, I mean, and inside hers. It's not hyperbole, it's it's not speculation. It goes down whenever. Yeah, right, that's right. And she's she's ready, Oh yeah, absolutely, she needs it too. Let's not forget that she needs it. He's tell me, can you tell we grew up fans of Stern. It's like, oh, it's

all it's all his fault. Let me get this way about the that's right when significant others come up because she because she just sits there and she waits. You know, you imagine just the amount of m so funny. All right, it's loud, you know, like neighbors can hear it. Yeah, I mean it sounds like they're fighting. Yeah, right right, they people they've had the exactly neighbors have called the police because they think that there's some kind of right and what is it? No, it's fucking you because

and here's the thing, Cody fucking answers like that. You know that the police come to the door and Cody opens the door. He's just finished. He's completely naked, all right, fucking dick hanging in the wind. What do you want? Yeah? Right, what do you want? What's going on? Uh? Sir, you're naked? What of it? I've been fucking you see my house. I could be naked in my house and I've been fucking my wife. What do you want? It's a lot of information.

Sorry, well we heard there might be a domestic disturbance. Yeah, yeah, you're disturbing me from fucking my wife right now, there is exactly right now, there's a domestic disturbance. You're domestically disturbing me. I would like to go back to fucking my wife. She's wet for me right now, right, I need to go back so I can style. By the way, Jess, I can't eat chocolate anymore. Sorry, I didn't give me to tease. He sounds in that if you isolate that clip, he

sounds so disappointing. That's so different, I know, just in isolated. I can't eat chocolate anymore. I can't eat chocolate anymore. Unbelievable. I can't eat chocolate anymore. But it was kind of brilliant because what happened is Brandy drew Wardlow in to facing off with Double A, and Cody knows that's happening. There set of motion, that the plan in motion, and then Cody hits the suicide dive, taking out Wardlow, and that kind of addresses

the Wardlow threat for a minute. I did like Brandy a lot in that role of like remember it that the All This match where she, yeah, she took the there was a top rope plant her to the floor from Cody and the accidentally banged into her and she acted like she was knocked out. I like that where she kind of plays a role in a match. It's like a damsel in distress almost, or somebody that's like helping Cody run plays to distract the apparent. If she can if manipulating, it's fine. Every

now and again. Her out there manipulating is totally fine. Yeah, But her coming to the ring and like with microphone time and having her own initiatives like the ew heels thing, it was like, stop trying to be an entrepreneur. We don't have to sit here and take this. The thing is like all that stuff. Yet it's just not It doesn't work in the wrestling, you know, unless it's part of the story hopes and dreams about how she could be perceived, but wrestling is not the vector for it. It's

not. It's sad to I think wrestling is your ticket to being perceived as like a girl boss or whatever the fucking thing. I mean. It's the same thing with Austin and Deborah. I don't like it's it's not okay to think about wrestlers having relationships unless it's done in a very specific way for a story lane, and generally it has to be a heel thing exactly. It can't be done. You're not going to be like when Seth hooked up. When Seth linked up with Becky on screen, death for both of them.

Death death, Yep, yep. Nobody wants to see that ship from a baby face nobody. Okay, So that's that all right. So the tope hits back in. MJF breaks the arm of Cody onto the top rope, and Wardlow pulls him into the post to get that psychology going into the ring. The referees distracted jars. There's a large man mugging Cody. There's a large man mugging Cody. Would have said that a little louder Jim if you wanted him to hear you. It sounds fucking hot, so weird. Cody

sent shoulder first from the post. MGF and firm control. Now the Double Cross as his finisher was the name of it. It was like a fujiar arm bar basically now the Double Cross, sorry, was his version of the Crossroads. That's what he called at the Double Cross. But he also had the foojuar arm bar finishers. Oh yes, yes. So MGF hooks the key lock, lifts and dumps Cody on his head and stacks him up for two. They plugged the March eleventh dynamite in Salt Lake City. That was

the last one for the pandemic. MJF stands on the on one arm and one hand of Cody and stomps struts and hooks a top wrist lock. Tony says, MGF is fundamentally sound in the ring. He's gonna give him his credit. Let's go Cody, MJF. Chance alternate is Cody backs him into the corner to break the hold, tries a whip out of the corner with cells that the arm is just too bad. At that point, MGF stumps

the arm and locks and the foojuar arm bar. He then figure fours the arm a bit and then when he tries to reach the rope, does Cody with his leg. MJF snatches that leg up two yes, he does. Good. Cody has to use his teeth to bite the bottom rope to break the hold. That's pretty awesome, good stuff now visual. M JF then starts taking off his boot. Cody's boot, of course, time stand still

as he unlaces it, but that's to expose the crushed toe. Jr. Says he would not make a good shoe thief, so Jim can't leave well enough alone, and while he's doing it, you can tell it's taking so long that Cody verbally calls for an eye rake and MJF rakes his eyes and then m JFF doesn't just expose the toe, he bites it. Yeah, start changing yash. She jumps on the apron and protest on that one, and Excalibur takes a moment to wonder what Brandy's been going through with Cody during

these months. Brandy Cody's wife, cheering him on, urging him on to imagine what she's had to put up with living with Cody so focused on MJFF for all these months. Yeah, and tattoos, Jo Cody, I think that neck tattoo is a surprise. A fuck fucking JR. Can't you just can't not say it? You know, you see that damn thing They are off the leash. Tattoos. Tattoos, m h, I don't know about tattoos. You ever have one? No, jim any other questions. I

never took the time to get one. I never took the time to get one. Sometimes I just like to roll around on the yard. I never took the time to get a tattoo. Sometimes I just like to roll around in the yard. Now, are those thoughts related. I don't think it's going to do with tattoos, but maybe I'm wrong. I like to roll around in the yard too. I don't know what that has to do with my tattoo question. Do you ever take a shovel into a tree? Sometimes?

I do that. ONMJF, Cody drops down, drops MJFS face in the corner. He purchased some of the top and he climbs up and then let's see, Cody kind of over rotates MJF on reverse superplex, so MJF instead of ending on his face, he's kind of lands at his feet and then has to leap up and sell like he hit his head on the canvas, which he didn't. Jared calls out that Kevin von eric Us to wrestle barefooted, so it's not a big deal for Cody to have a boot off.

As he hits a springboard drop kick off, the apron goes MJF. Arn Anderson fishes out a chair as wardload Mad dogs Cody from the floor. Jared says, he's as left handed as he could be, is arn Anderson, which I'm quite sure what that means. Fifteen minutes have elapsed. MJF comes up all bloody. I'm not sure what shot he took to bust himself open, but he gets some so he goes it's it's he gets booted to the floor and it looks like he kind of hits something. Maybe he hits

the stairs or something like that. I remember I saw where it seemed like it might have happened. So something happened. When he goes over the top to the floor from from Cody's boot, he rolls back in and then comes in loads with his white tape on the cut so that you know, yeah, I mean fucking you know. Mjf's like car up like a fucking prime rib to holiday party. MGF charges into a power slam from Cody that gets

to to the apron. Cody is draped and Jeff breaks free and stomps his uh stomps the foot of Cody goes to the apron and then jumps and hits the the heat seeker, which is the Kyle driver with a guy draping the ropes. Would you like to hear some inside by JR? As as as he's always interested in Well here let him speak for himself. It's always interesting to see athlete responds to tasting their own blood, feeling it, seeing it, the warmth running down your face, the taste, I get it,

I get it to Okay, this is this point. He's just like he's like an old man in the corner, just saying things. You know what I mean. Yes, yeah, he's like Grandpa Simpson. Yes, exactly how I feel about him. Sometimes he doesn't even he doesn't call matches anymore. He just makes like observations, and they're always oh, you know, Donny, I'm always there and knowing how our wrestler reacts to blood just hit him torn in his mouth from somebody else. You ever have let me tell

you, have you ever been ever? You ever been at a cattle farm and just started drinking the blood or the cattle I have, Well, I'll tell you I used to do that. I still do that sometimes. And what I like to do with it is sometimes I take the blood and I bathe myself in it, and I always wonder what it feels like when someone else bathes with me inside the cattle Wonder what it feels like when someone bathes with me. That's what he said, Tony, You're a bathe with another

man on purpose. Oh, Jr. I'm willing that if by mistake. Unfortunately you all you're a bathe with a with an animal. Oh oh, you're missing out. I had to bathe with at least animals at a time, sometimes in bloody sometimes they're full of feathers. You know, I might take that back. I did share a locker room shower with Joe Lori and idis once does that. Oh and George Steele. So after the heat Seeker,

he puts his feet in the ropes. He said, you have to get the cheap count and Wardlow just holds his feet down, but it's in plain view of the reff so he just says, no, he can't do that. The crowd laughs. Actually a good plan, Uh, I like that. At this point, Brandy tries to plaunch it to Wardlow. She gets caught and put up on the shoulders and Cody said, and put her down. Put her down. He goes for the pump kick, but he Wardlow gets out of the way and Cody accidentally kicks down Arn Anderson. It's

like a big moment. Tony Schivanni talks about how there was the neck injury, the nitor Anderson's career and he's sitting there, laying there supine, and it's a touch and go moment. Cody gets in there looking down at Double A and distracted. This allows MG have to hit a low blow and school boy him for two that he tries to suplex, but no, oh my god, perfection where you get suplexed out and yes it's suplexed out of the ring, but you both tumble out it's still entangled. This is yep,

it was perfect. I mean I know. In fact, I think it was so perfect that they hit the ground a lot harder they intended to. It's very hard to do that move safely. I think this is exhibit A. Oh god, can you imagine like that is not at all. That's gonna be the most unsafe thing. There's no control, You're you're holding on to somebody you know, and you're just allowing your both yourselves to topple over

there a flat back the floor. Ye, Double A stirring a bit, and he's with the trainer, refreaches the count of nine is both slide and now they're both facing off in all wabbly right hands are exchanged to the boo hey exchange, and then Cody with a jab and left hooks and loads on him the flip flop and fly and a nod to Dusty, but MJF drops him before he could hit him. He drops to the canvas to get out

of the way. Back up, Cody tries the cross Roads, but MJF for versus to the double cross, hitting his own version of Cody finishers that only gets two, however, not unlike Adam Page hitting the one wing an Angel earlier in the Guy Kicking Out Yeah totally. MJF then takes off Cody's white belt. Paul Turner yanks hit away from him. MJF Cox's fist like he's going to hit the referee, and then Cody turns him around with a

low blow. It looked like a clean midsection kick though, and then he hits the Shane Helms, the Shane Helms finisher, the cop killer finisher that Homicide used to do, hanging him upside down on your back and then you drop him on his head. That gets to Cody starts whipping him. Jr. Says two woodsheads are never going to be the same and excuse me something like that, and the referee is trying to stop Cody from whipping MJF because that's his job. It's a great spot, though. Cody just goes,

can I do one more? Please? Can I get one more in this prick? And the rev goes, all right, he turns his back and let's whip him. It's great. MGF hugs the foot of Cody is crying at his feet. Jared says, I didn't mean to be a richard, in other words, a dick saying he's uh coursing. MJF is saying that, and he's got crocodile crocodile tears coming. And MGF gets to his feet and hugs Cody and it's pathetic and the crowd isn't buying it. And then

MGF just spits at him and then lunges and Cody catches him. It hits a crossroads, and then another and then another, but no. MJF lifts his knee up to break free from the position, a right hand drops him, and all of a sudden, Cody lands so hard, and you realize that MJF fished the dynamite diamond ring out of his chap before it. He drapes one arm over Cody and it's one, it's two, and it's three, and the crowd can't believe what they saw because it looks like Cody just

lost to a punch until they hit the replay. Twenty four minutes forty seconds. MJF pins Cody at aw Revolution. This is before he got the permission to use Cody Roads in a w and this is it. This launches MJF in so many ways right here. Yeah, totally, it was great, what a great The finish was fantastic. They cut to the abru les guy.

He can't believe it, the guy who goes nuts a bruck Lesner matches, they have fan reaction shots MG have tremendously with the loope cell and his arms raised in victory and double A scoops up Cody, some Cody chances, he limps out of the ring and jaredsis. The fans still love him, They love his courage, they love his grit and I'll not for long. They show some clips to build up the next match with Pock and Orange Cassidy with Orange doing his classic shin kicks and the DDT and they talk about how

you think he's a joke, Well, the joke's on you. He might try, he might not, but he's got talent and this is the first time and it's really fitting coming off his main event of the pay per view last week, that Orange Cassidy has a singles match in a w He'd had some tags and stuff, and he'd done run ins. But my god, did this guy find a way to make this thing work where he's like barely trying to hit anybody. And I think it's hilarious. He's so amazing.

The guy is the beauty of it is And you know, again, it kind of goes against what people may normally think that I would like. But what I'll tell you one thing, one thing is so important, and you can get away with a goofy gimmick if you commit, if you truly I think this is something that's not spoken about wrestling gimmicks and characters, But if you really believe the gimmick, if you really commit to it, that goes a long way. The same I can say the same thing about Bray Wyatt.

I can think of a million reasons why I would and should have hated the Fiend character, a fucking horror mask character, but it worked and I liked it. And the same thing here, there are a million reasons why I should say the orange cassidy, you know, millennial, you know in different gimmick should not work, but it does because he fucking puts one hundred and ten percent of himself in it and behind it, and then you know, wows everybody with his amazing ability. Yeah, yeah, it's truly.

It's truly the case. And he's smart enough to think about the moves that would actually work while doing the gimmick, like the way he does the seat to drop kick with his hands in his pants, the way he does a suicide dive. It's like he can keep that whole thing up and it's psychological tactic and it works. You can see a guy trying to actually do this to throw an opponent off, but he has real firepower and he knows how

to deploy it. In the early days, he didn't really do it as much because he didn't have He's one of the things that's been brilliant about him is he slowly rolled out the intensity. Is the months past each match,

you'd see a little bit more like whoa, when this guy explodes. He actually can do great stuff in the ring, but he showed so little up it early that you almost felt like this gimmick is never gonna work because he's just gonna stand there and kick the shins and do like the two or three moves he can do with his hands in his pocket, and that's going to be the end of it. But it's like, no, the whole gimmick is going to be. This guy has a tremendous fighting spirit, but he's

very you gotta drag it out of him. He doesn't show up looking to kill somebody. Were like nothing more and to find a way to win the match with minimal effort. And and it serves him well to put his opponents in that frame of mind because then they drop their guard and he just knows. I mean, a lesser talent would not be able to pull this off because when it came time to flip the switch, they wouldn't be able to

throw convincing offense at the guy. It would be too much, it would be too much of a leap to see the guy go from lazy do nothing, you know, a sloth in there, to someone who's flying off the top rope and doing triple lutz and shit. Yea, but he can do

it. He can do it in a way where you're convinced that he's kind of hiding and masking this explosive nature that he has, and now the class so in love with him that he can just wrestle pretty much like everybody else on the roster and just kind of sprinkle in these lazy spots as callbacks to that initial charm and intrigue that he brought the table. And it's funny,

it's really it's really great. And then I think it's I think it's really incredible to see him, you know, kind of move around when he's got his hands in his pockets. It's really fucking fussy funny. And in the

early days, people were very bearish on him working on national television. They thought of it as a gimmick that only like irony seeking small indie wrestling diehards could appreciate, you know, something that was almost in the category of like Joey Ryan, how he do with those gimmicks based around his dick, swing people around and buy his dick and make comments and jokes and move with his dick. And I was like, oh, God, like you know it,

there's novelty to it. It's funny and when you see in a small setting. Of course, he turned out to be a pervert blah blah blah. But but Orange was put in that same category early as a guy that was really just like something that could make four hundred people at a wreck hall crack up, you know, and in a knowing ironic way. Now the guy had he already. He cut his teeth. Was where we did the Renaissance rumble, right, Remember his picture was there, His picture was there.

Quackenbush was pointing out all the alumni and he was one of them, and uh, just just a wonderful performer. To see him blossom the way he did. He took that aw International title and basically made it their intercontinental title ninety one, Like it's that value box strap and uh, and he just took on contenders in a way where you know, you're like one commercial break in his Dynamite title defense, You're like, God, damn it,

he's doing it again. He's he's having such an exciting match against just the opponent Djure, somebody that doesn't even have a lot of story behind the matchup, and that match with Moxley just a great way. He's like he hit his ceiling. You know, he really faced a big dog and he he fought his heart out and he bled like crazy, but in the end he

came up short. And it's perfect because now he gets to build back up and you know, kind of after having such a long undefeated streak and an unlikely record reign with that championship, he can now find it, find a new way, a new path, and recover from that. Because you know, he shows no emotion. So how's he going to react when he loses the biggest fight of his life? Yeah? He The go home promo for the match was I'm Orange Cassidy and I don't have a catchphrase. That's what

he said. Yeah wow, So from wherever, weighing whatever, that's what they always how they always introduce him. But back then at Revolution twenty twenty, was still very much like a head scratching like it's not it's not as funny as it is now. People like what I get it. I mean, I remember again, I remember I forget when he wasn't at all in

right he was a double or nothing. I think he was. Yeah, I'm kind of like a run in capacity because I remember seeing him live and I think he was in that Battle Royal just doing the shin kick the Royal Rumble match, and I thought it was hilarious and that's it seemed like I've just funny thing on the show, you know, right to one of the best workers they have. Yeah, I did. I've always wondered. I

always wondered, like, how how's this gonna go? Like, you know, at some point he's got to evolve, because you can't do this forever unless you want to kill yourself. Amazing. Tony identifies with Orange Cassidy because he doesn't seem to give a rat's ass, and Tony said sometimes I don't either. Jared goes off on Twitter and says, don't you love the business like I do? Making fun of people who say that Jared doesn't love the

business anymore. I'm fourteen. They get the basement to myself this week, jr. Oh god, Jared says, he hey, rough little details. Those things you're looking at Orange sunglasses, you can't wear them in the ring. He's calling out, Yeah, oh my god, bell sounds. They chant holy shit because the thought of him having a wrestling matches out of is

out of this world at this point. To that, I do love hearing Justin Roberts announced him He's great at its all, big a company to the Ring by best Friends from Wherever, Wait whatever, Freshly Squeeze, I'll take it. And that's when he had the best friend's music. He's another example of how just transform it if it can be to license an actual song for a wrestler. They gave him Jane by Jefferson Starship, and it is unbelievable

how perfect the song is for him. It's just like it's set such a different tone than him being like this sidekick to the best friend's tag team, and it's kind of like sideshow giving it just it puts in front and center as tron is wonderful. It's like hand drawings and like like the insert cool move here or like all these goofy like and she's just got it. Man, he's just got everything down. He's figured it all out. And here

again pack that just started to become clear. He goes for the hands in the pockets, but he gets cut off and Orange dust kind of like a snap arm drag and they pop huge for this explosion offense from Orange, which they weren't expecting. Then he puts his hands in his pocket and that gets it. This is awesome. Chin Orange kicks the shin answers Jared laughs at that exchange. Pack's doing his own shin kicks an Orange casted, by the way, the love child of Seth Green and Sherman from America. That's a

good one, Seth Green for sheer vibes. Absolutely yeah. Yeah. So they're exchanging. The crowd is so loud as they're tapping each other's shins, and then Orange stepped back and taps the shin even lighter, and then it gets a shoved down the glasses fly off King of Sloth style. He's called fight Forever. They chant. Orange now goes into the ropes and ducks with his hands in his pockets and rolls over and does a seeded drop kick with

his hands still in his pockets. That gets the standing ovation, and Jared says, yeah, forget about Dickton brewser it's Orange Castity time. By God. That tries a hiptoss range, counters with an arm drag, and with his hand still in his pocket, does a forward roll with his legs crossed and gets two Orange. Then, with his hands in his pockets, hits the ropes and Pack comes in cuts him off with a tilt a world backbreaker. Pack runs him into the fence on the floor and then a post,

and Excalibur says those posts have disgusting angles. Actually Jr says they are called edges. EXCaliber. Brother, there's a lot of a lot of that kind of patronizing tone from Jr. Towards Excalibur. Oh God, it's like it's disguised. It's just friendly banter. But he's not. Jared never passes up a chance to say, it's all right. It's not his name, it's not how you say it, it's not which's it's wrong, or it's all you're being two of her bost But it's fine. It's all good partner,

all right. Jim Jr. Says if Pack had a middle seat on the fly, you'd be pissed off. He slams Orange and climbs does a seated missile drop kick that turns Orange Cassidy inside out. Then he does a kip up and a scowl. Pack does the spin kick, a superkick, a power bomb with a sensational sit out that gets too and ex Caliber said Pack at a high stack on the liger bomb, Brother Jr. Had a good stack for breakfast. That's right, No pulp they chance speaking of Desayuno.

Orange is perched. Pack those up top about a brainbuster from the top rope by Pack he gets when he gets two gangs, Orange cassidy up when he could have had the wind. Pack goes up at the top. Orange rolls out of the ring and he rolls at a snail's pace? Is he not? He? He's on top to attack, and Orange rolls and and and the crowd it's so crowd chance, Holy shit, him rolling out of the ring for him rolling on the sails. Yes, it's so. It's spectacular.

Pack then climbs after positioning him again and Orange rolls out. He does it again. He can't come off the top against this guy because he just starts gradually rolling towards the ropes. Yep, And he's on the floor like he's sleeping. He's in hibernation, like he's a sleeping teenager who won't get up until eleven thirty in the morning. This is wrestling. They chan Pac

puts him back in the ring, and he starts doing it again. So Pack walks over to the other side so that Orange can't roll out from this side, and Orange sees him and just starts rolling out the other side. He ye, and then he keeps up out of nowhere and nails Pack with a tope nails him. He scrambles to the top like a madman and leaps into a cross body block on the hop ducks a tilt a whirl into a spike DDT on Pack that gets to Pack, pops up and larries him to

the canvass. Orange comes up limply and swats a pack. Pack rops him with an elbow, hands in the pockets. He ducks the Orange punch He ducks, and the Orange punch linens the Superman punch Orange with fire. Yeah it's the ropes stun dog Millionaire. That flipping stunn are he did whenever? Yeah, he's freshly squeezed, needless to say. Gets tripped up top and

crossed Pack hooks him up, but Orange goes over the shoulder. He's thinking hum stone up there, but Orange rotates and DDT's pack off the top rope and then climbs up and hits a leaping DDT on the money. He's so good at that leaping DDT. That's a tough one to get right. And Pack is the one rolling out of the ring, this time to the ramp they go. Trent Barretta comes in and throws his buddy Orange Buddy throws Pack back in the ring and the air raid Crash Scores stacks him up one two

crowd wanted it to end there, but it did not. Lucasaurus comes out, Phoenix does the hook kick to a Trent, so it's like gang warfare. Pentagon gets involved and drops him, and then Taylor Chuck. Taylor one of Orange's friends and flip dives onto the ramp and takes everybody out back in Packed as the arm ringer and pulls Cassidy down with the canvas and hooks the

brutalizer and Orange Cassidy concedes to the submission of Pack immediately. Thirteen minutes, Clean Pock defeats Orange Cassidy and is one on one aw debut here at Revolution. But Boss, I think I think we've seen enough to be intrigued. I'm totally I mean, listen, I bought into it the whole time. I still think I think he's great. Next, Scalibur says of Orange,

I think he tried, so that's great. We get to Flood and guts Ad Jr. Coughs and fucks it all up and oh, disastrous stand up moment with Tony Jr. And Excalibur Jr. Does not know what where to go. He just suddenly asks for predictions without even saying what the matches he's going with Moxley, and she flubs the plug for the upcoming cities they're going to is a disaster. I want to predictions of what's gonna be eaten next by my mouth do a package with Jr. Saying Moxley has rattle snake rattle

snake like tendencies. They shot Jericho doing his famous a little bit of the Bubbly promo after winning the championship that champion Era is in firm effect in a w He had given mos a very fancy four gt car to say yes and join his inner circle, and they did the angle where Moxley was going to do it, saying on KBA W dominate and I have to do that with

the inner circle. And then he says, you're just kidding and smashes a champagne bottle on Jericho's head, and Jericho comes back later and drives a spike into Moxley's eye, which causes him to wear an eye patch for several weeks on aw television, and Jericho calls himself once again the in the world and no one can touch me. Jared starts from your pitch to the ring before the package is even over, and Justin Roberts says, this is your main

event of the evening. Moxley's music. He hits the ring. This is before wild Thing, before they licensed wild Thing for him, and he used to come out custom a w theme. He walks in from the outside of

the building. They start outside the wind Trust arena. Yeah, because I guess it's that big long walk with the hood and the eye patch through the lobby and everything yelled song Hang hang, hang, hang, hanginginginginginginging, hang, hang, hang hang, and Jared says, Moxley came to a w to live his best life, make his dreams come true, and this is the place for that to happen. Wow, now we hear a soulful voice.

Oh here, just just listen to this wonderful thing. You want you side, you are since person r I am all like to sender snow. I am called down the soul made a song and I will train down, say the mold and so one by God, now say all away and in the same to choice in life? Is it something less for me to say in the record show, My Life, My Life, I'm becoming go go,

I'm becoming me, Come I go. I mean, you got you gotta be like really weird if you don't think that's pretty great honestly, Yeah, like sorry, I mean and then middle again you get you get the song anyway, so like what the fuck? Yeah, I remember it very fondly. I remember when he did I was it that hit? That hit well, And maybe it's because the other ones are earlier in the show were so fucking bad that it just stood out. Maybe it was. It was

good. It was a very inspired idea. I thought she pulled it off beautifully, even if you know, she apparently isn't someone worth being a big fan of. That's life. You know, people do things that are inspiring and they suck, and it's yeah, ninety percent of the time, it seems to be that way. So John Moxley's announces the Pride of Cincinnati. He's undefeated in singles action uh zero, and Justin Roberts says he is zero.

Well, I'll have to paraphrase this one. Zero f's given John Moxley has has won next to his name because they were still pretending that by the time they got to the title match that they could make the argument the guy was the number one contender and Jericho there with a big ass gash over his eyebrow. They had had an angle on Dynamite leading into the thing, and Moxley had a big headbont on Jericho, leaving him bloodied and bruised, and

Jericho had undergo seven stitches to get the wound closed up. So that was on display here and Justin Roberts says of Jericho, he changed the universe when he signed with All Elite Wrestling. Amidst a one hundred eighty two day reign, It's Chris Jericho. Aubrey Edwards, the referee gets a bit of a pop as she hoists that big ass strap high for our main event, a W Revolution twenty twenty, Chris Jericho defending the w World Championship against John Moxley.

They explode in the center of a big pop, and Moxley's lean clothes lines Jericho out over the rail. Much leaner than he is today, Maxley looks a lot different posts rehab. Not bad, but he's just more like. He's not spelt, he's not cut, he's he's just a little more burly. You know, he let the chest hair grow out and he's balding up top. It's it's a different look. Probably not allowing the alcohol to be his main form of suspect. I think that's that's definitely part of it.

Jericho greets him with water on the eye at ringside and uses a stanchion in the audience to hit him with. Mox has thrown it to some guy who doesn't sell it at all and who doesn't want a part of it at all, and scurries away. Jericho grabs a camera from a cameraman and tries to do the middle finger where he puts it up in front of the lens, but they kind of failed to cut at the right moment. Very bad direction here. Jericho puts a fan sign on his neck and throws the guard

rail at Moxley, puts fan around a sign around his neck. It's like cut out so as a hole in the middle. Don't know why he's doing. Sledge off the ramp from Moxley. Jericho whe verses him into the post. We're told Moxley's busted open, and yeah, there it is. Has color. A big surprise there, we got color. His philosophy he said an interview recently, is look, if you watch boxing and MA fights, there's blood just every other Fight's just it's actually realistic to blade in every other

match. And I was like, hmm, that's actually an interesting thought. I mean, yes it is, but it's also barbaric to cut yourself. There's that. It's one thing to do it if it just happens, but MMA fighters and boxers they don't take a razor blade and cut themselves in the head. Ecology is really wacky because it's like, I feel like nowadays, when someone comes up bloody, the crowd's response, while strong, is more to the fact that this guy just cut his head than it is what the

guy just did to him. Cause the word right, right, that's that's the thing is we all know you're cutting your head. I feel, yeah, blading should be saved for when the guy needs to do something outlandously violent because the usual suite of moves just won't put him down for long enough, or an angle where you got to smash a chair and his head or something just then do the blood. But to do the blood just like in every match, because you hit the floor the wrong way, you can justify it

psychologically as to why you'd bleed. I'm not saying that I don't think it's unrealistic to have to bleed in matches, but I'm saying that there are things you're gonna need blood for a lot, and to make it that ubiquitous takes away the ability to make two or three or four things a year. Really pop. I mean think about you know, think about Stark eighty five, where every other match bloods are differentiator. Vince won't do blood, so we'll

overdo blood, and boy do they ever. I feel like it meant my I mean, they had to go so far with Blanchard and Magnum because there was so much blood in the company already. Yeah, I mean think about how late that was. In the car, there was like a like a twelve match show and that was like number that was like segment ten, SEG ten, right, something like that, seg ten. Yep, I'm sure

let's have referred to it. So Max is busted and then Jericho power bombs him at a nasty angle into a ringside table that still had the bell on it, almost powered on his head, right on the motherfucker, and he's selling that the initial I wound reopened, and that's what they're sort of saying, but that's under the patch of John Moxley's you can't really see it. Jericho slaps on him and sends come on your piece of shit and then dings

the bell and that clears himself the winner. On the microphone, he was back then, man that like I'm noxious, like I'm the highest and the mightiest. Jericho hot shots Mocks under the bottom rope. Back in the ring, they chant stupid idiot, and he flips them off because that's a w w chant. Mox to the corner on loads with with chops. Whip is reversed and hits the buckling stern him first Bret Hart style. Then there's a reversed whip and mox goes into the steps and a gored buster are and then

a drop kick off the top rope gets too. They talk about how Chris is going to go down as one of the greatest of all time as he purchased Mocks up top and climbs, but mox blocks the attempted a superplex and gored busts Chris Jericho from the top to the canvas. Miss I missed something, I miss something from the outside and here this is uh here, here's Tony talking at one point when they're wandering, when they're kind of battling out

there the way. Kids, you gotta see please take it. I mean I was thinking, like, who are you talking to on a commentary? Yeah, I think he's calling kids, the fans. The fans who you're talking to, they're already sitting on their couches, already sitting down fans. Moxley comes off the top of the flying lariat and lands nicely. It's nice to see it be a clothesline instead of that goofy ass top roll bulbow drop on a standing up for all those years. Oh, I hated that move

so much. Here's by Also, here's Jericho standing over Moxley laying into him. We have cursed words on pay per view. MJF said fucking on the All In Show and it was great. He said five more, you know, Wembley goes to the fucking end or whatever. He said, Wembley, we go to a fucking finish and it was great. Yeah, it's great.

Say fucking don't see it all the times it works. I've watched too many boxing fights and UFC fights become you know, sixty million dollar blockbuster fights in terms of overall haul because the guys were dropping f bombs like crazy, and the prematche used to not think it works. So so that's that Box loads them up with shots, lariots and the corner and j R. Goes off about the high impact and physicality and all those words. It's kind of

with it, but you can tell they're tired. At the same time, how prop seated missile drop kick tell every pay per view being four hours is not good? No, no, this is before they learned. They still go along, but they still go along. You kidding me? I mean fucking Christ. Sometimes sometimes I go over, you know again, I'm expecting a three hour pay per view. I go over, I go over to Did's apartment and I'm sitting there and it's a fucking five hour show and I'm

like, they did a couple I want to go home disastrous. If you includ the pre show especially, it's it's crazy. It's not Didn't didn't even do the pre show. It's just a regular show. And I was like, Mistress, they have so much talent and they just like they want to get him all on. It's like, I don't know, Yeah, I kind of I don't want. That's not my problem women in the business to

not have jobs. I don't. I hate the thought. But WAW has yet to have that roster purge that w TW goes through the ritual roster purge. Oh, but they can't do that. Can you imagine if they do that, they're gonna be so fucking They're gonna get so much backlash for that. Exactly. It's gonna be like people are gonna be reminded that they're not

running a nonprofit, you know, which they don't want to hear. So the second rope seated missile drop kick attempted by mox is turned into the walls by Chris Jericho and Moxley, you know, because he's MMA does a heelhook counter and Excalibur goes off about Randy Kature and all this MMA training kind of an obnoxious part of John Moxley where it's like he trained MMA and so now we have to watch him like pretend to do like jiu jitsu and stuff.

So Moxley does a tope and it catches Jericho with the springboard drop kicking a hot office springboard drop kick attempt with the hot shot. Then is a running knee strike for two and then and then he gets snatched by Ortiz from the inner circle and he wax him with a ball and a sock. Basically it looks like and that drops Moxley, and then Jericho hits the lion salt that only gets too Jericho wipes some blood from mox onto himself, and then a

whipped to the corner to lariat drops Moxley. Jericho tries to coach. Here's here's Jr. Talking about the dangers of New York. I love when they fucking I love this ship because it's so stupid. Seven tenor Ortiz are dangerous, man. They're from the streets of New York City. Not all the everybody in New York City streets from the dangerous these two are. That's where they were raised. You gotta fucking I mean, you know, you think about it's like, yes, I mean, I'm not necessary that there aren't

still dangerous streets in in New York. But like you know, the the whole the old gimmick of like oh it was they were raised in New York. It's like you think of New York from like the seventies and eighties, where it was like a complete you know, it was just a different city. But now it's you know, New York is pretty much Disney World. Yeah well yeah, you know it's like they're from but no, I know, but like, you know, you can't say streets in New York and

like say it like that anymore. Like you get to pick a pick a neighborhood, like a real neighborhood, you know, wherever their neighborhood is. You know, that's where you get a fucking you know, you can say red Hook, you know, because red Hook for a while was was was was nasty, you know, it was a rough place, very interesting. But you can't just say the streets of New York City because like that includes fucking you know, the Upper West Side and ship. Yeah, that's where

people who know New York to their heads go right away. It's like, you gotta give me a neighborhood because when you say New York, I just think of the heart of the city. Right. I think I'm in Times Square and I'm like, you know, you're not gonna fucking no, it's not gonna be bad. I mean again, you know, most places aren't bad. There certainly are bad places. I'm not saying that there aren't but like to say, it's such an old school wrestling statement on the stretch in

New York pretty much. Yeah, Jericho tries the code breaker, but there's a drop down in a double arm attempt and and he switches to the walls again and mock spins out of the way. He picks the ankle and turns him over into the walls of Jericho his own self. Moxley looking for the walls, yep, and he gets to the apron Hagar gets up there. Jake Hager's out, so Moxley breaks the hold to get to him and turns around into a code breaker from Jericho that gets to Jericho, then turns him

in the walls of Jericho. Jerre makes much about how Jericho can't go get his hands locked just John Monsley makes it to the ropes Jericho that gets an Aubrey's face about it and hassles her and shoves her and then mocks ducks the right hand and hits the back supplex, running lariatt by Moxley, Hager slugs him from the floor at interfere but Aubrey Edwards saw it and ejects him from ringside to a big pop. Then Sammy Gavaris it's in and crowns Mocksley with

the championship belt and makes off of the crowd cover. Maybe it felt maybe it felt to people like this would if you were watching it every day, that it felt like the thing. But this is not the blowoff to this is Mattress was not the blowoff that I would want from Jericho's title title rain. Like it just it didn't feel like it. It just didn't feel right, like it just wasn't built up properly. It was not there now. It was kind of just like a it was. Yeah, the program was

about the Inner Circle and whether they could get Moxley into it. It wasn't about the significance of Jerialdo's right right champion. It's like this match happened and had nothing to do with the belt. You know, this could have this exact story could have been told without either man holding the championship belt to actually

to actually make it you know what, it's been great too. Actually I think would have been a really cool thing is to have of this match and do like what they did in Starkade ninety six and have Moxley wins, not for the type but only after only afterwards they say, oh no, no, it wasn't for the title. We never said it was for the title. Could be fun, you know, that would have been fun for this I think delayed cover from Jericho. After Sammy Gavard hits Moxley with the title

belt, that on think gets two. Then Jericho starts slapping Moxley, and Moxley rises and starts fighting back, and they exchange shots. He tries the paradigm shift as Moxley, but Jericho gouches the good eye and hits the Yakuza kick. Come on, you blind son of a bitch. Jericho says that squeaky voice he has, and then mox wings a wild one. No one there, He's like blinding, and Jericho pot shots him and drops a knee off the middle rope, and Jerry says the ref needs to consider stopping this

thing because Moxley can't see. Jericho sets up the stupid fucking eye patch things that it was really goofy. I don't know why they fuck that was him, Captain Moxley series. Yeah, So Moxley ducks the Judas effects spinning back elbow and boots him in the gut, hits the paradigm shift, didn't quite hook the arm on it, but dumps Jericho nonetheless. And then Moxley stands up and pulls up the eye patch, and he's been fine the whole time. The cut from the attack was above his eye, and you can see

it. It's open, or at least it's freshly open, because he bladed it on this evening. But that's supposed to be the psychologies he could see all along. Now, why if you could see all along you would voluntarily take one bit of your eyesight away by covering and patch the whole time, We'll never know. But apparently he thought that it was going to be the perfect trump card for the key point in the match, and he does it

here. He's playing possi on the entire time. We're told. He kicks him in the gut, lifts Jericho high for the paradigm shift or death rider or wherever he calls it, dropping Jericho on his head for the one, the two, and the three. Twenty two minutes and twenty seconds, John Moxley defeats Chris Jericho to become the new a W World Champion. Here at a W Revolution twenty twenty. We've got to do CHAMPI hoist the belt. Shelby Satamente has begun in a WJR. Says the reason Moxley came here has

been fulfilled. He says, this is aw wrestling, This is our champion. His name is John Moxley. Oh go ahead, Yeah, you're still invite you to come along on this amazing ride we're about to begin. Moxley takes the middle rope, soaks it all in, puts a shirt on with the belt on it, and they put over how mox is able to dupe Jericho into thinking he couldn't see, and Jr. Putting over how Jericho walked right into the paradigm shift and never would have done that if he wasn't a

victim of the possum playing of John Moxley. And he grabs the belt, takes a need to a Moxley chant, and he's got some things to say to the people to sign us off. Yes he does. God damn, I love this shifty. It has been what hell of a year for yours. Truly, he's been what hell of a long run. But I didn't win this. I didn't win this tonight. It doesn't belong to me, Just like a W belongs to you because you, the fans, the wrestling

fans I've been triving Hey W forward. You are the energy that fuels a W. And a year ago we had a conversation and we said we're bringing pro wrestling, pro wrestling back to the people, and that it's exactly what we have done. Look, I didn't win this sit done belong to me.

This belongs to everyone here in Chicago tonight, all the a W fans at home, most importantly, all the fans who've been with me fur the beginning, through all the opics, all the towns, all the guns in the bad the fans that have stuck with me and kept me moving forward, pushing forward. This blocks to you. You and I don't have words to describe the gratitude I have toy the entire hey W family. The most important part, oh the W family, is you. Ain't nothing must left to

saying. It feels like it's fear o'clock, all right, I ain't gonna Hey, what the fuck? I'm making it up as I go along. I ain't get eye behind this belt. Like I said from Take one, I'll take on anybody anytime. Hey, please light them up and I'll go ahead and knock them down right now, though it's time to knock back some whiskeys. Is a city preceding announcement as a t J De Santis production. Its contents is intended for private use only.