Prepare to hear the truth from a real whistleblower, an American Patriot, here's civil liberties, enthusiasts, Second Amendment, Defender and indefinitely suspended. FBI agent. Kyle seraphin. Hello my friends and welcome to the Kyle Serafin show for Friday. The 31st of March, it is the end of March, finally, and the seraphin family is on the road and we've got the cows are up and show on the road with us. So I sent the boys a picture of what this looks like.
I've got to spendable. Steve with me. So he's going to be Weighing in, he brought us some brand news, brand new news, new news that's being broken this morning. It will be out on his Twitter feed and will be retweeting it so you can go look for that. Well, you'll get out your fresh taste of it and our reactions to it as well. A lot of weird stuff going on this week. Hopefully you got a chance to listen to our very long 3. Plus our interview with Steve Baker, I only talk to people,
they have Steve these days. I guess. I don't know why that is, but I got a lot of Steve's in my Orbit. Steve, thanks for joining me. Other Steve Many states were working the same microphone today. Yeah man. I kind of feel like my tech caught up, maybe it's yesterday's technology today. That's very Bureau of you People don't know that. That's the, that's the motto of the FBI's. It Department, it's yesterday's technology tomorrow. So you're doing it today.
I guess you're actually ahead of the FBI at that point. Yeah, I'm high-speed low-drag. I've got contacts in places that they didn't even know that's it. Well, let's do a quick little uh, promotion for our sponsor and I hope you don't mind. But we're going to talk about Patriot coolers and Patriot coolers.com even on the road. I got to bring it up. I've got my Patriot cooler with me right now, huh? They're called tumblers. This is the 30-ounce, well ice and water. Keep me hydrated.
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And what I want to entitle this episode, I think is something to the effect of Miss Lippy strikes, again, that was my initial idea Miss Lippy being the Billy Madison character who was teaching kindergarten. But it's almost something dumber than that. We're in the, we're in this sort of preschool world where the Opposite is true. It's like an opposites day when you were a little kid. I'm going to run through a bunch of these things to talk about it. Do you want to break your news
first? You want to hold that for the end because you said you walk over I think we got some heavy topics where you might need to cleanse your palate at the end. So let's hold on. Yeah, bit the world is pretty messed up in so many ways. So let's start with a couple things. All right? We're going to talk about a video, a little piece that Tucker Carlson did and it's going to actually tie into a broader theme of whatever. The left says, the opposite is
the case. If they act like trans, people are the most important thing in the world. What they are trying to do is negate Christianity. That was Tucker's Point. There's a thing that Steven Crowder did on Thursday and that was actually really Illuminating to me, it was another opposite and that I listened to an Adam Carolla podcast talking about self-esteem and that was the opposite. So we have at least three examples this week of like major influential figures on the right
that I've listened to that. It pointed out really significant opposition. It's and I think you'll be able to weigh in and know that those are the case. Phil, do you have our tucker video? I want to play it and then we're going to have a quick discussion on that but I think that is the theme so far, is that whatever they lay out, they being the left, the opposite is the case.
Yeah, let's play it. It was just last week that we noticed that parts of the transgender movement seemed to be getting militant and possibly dangerous. We did a whole segment about it on Thursday night, that segment was sparked by an NPR segment. We had heard and never Acted to hear NPR is always as a matter of editorial policy.
Completely opposed the civilian ownership of firearms with the possible exception of maybe IRS agents yet here suddenly was that very same station, National Public Radio positively urging trans people to buy guns as many guns as possible and if necessary to use them, the world is dangerous. Explain one trans gun owner. You have to be dangerous back. And that seems strange to us, is the United States, really a dangerous place for Trans people, will West Baltimore is
dangerous. You can easily get murdered there. But if you're Trans in this country, obviously there are many downsides but there do appear to be some benefits. It's a lot easier to into Harvard. For example, it's definitely easier to get a job at Citibank or in the Biden White House.
If you're transgender can so much as fly, a kite, the Pentagon will happily make you an F-35 pilot to so Hollywood can make a movie about it. Identifying As trans whatever again, its downsides does convey status in this country which is why so many young people now do not a lot of 19 year. Olds are pretending to be car mechanics or lineman for regional Power Company in eastern Ohio.
But plenty of college freshmen, do pretend to be members of the opposite sex and why wouldn't they the people in charge despise working class whites? But they venerate the trans Community people are just responding to incentives. Its rationale in a way. But that does not explain the anger that we heard in that n PR segment. Why are some trans people so angry? And why do they seem to be mad specifically at traditional
Christians? We can't think of any trans person who's ever been murdered by a pastor as far as we know that has never happened. So, it's not an actual threat of violence from Christians. That's inspiring some trans people to buy AR-15s, know it's, it's got to be more fundamental than that. And it is the trans movement is the mirror image. Of Christianity and therefore, its natural enemy in Christianity.
The price of admission is admitting that you're not God Christian's openly can see that, they have no real power over anything, and for that matter, very little personal virtue. They will tell you to your face, if they are sinful and helpless and basically, absurd, they're not embarrassed about any of this, they brag about it, that saved a Wretch.
Like Me Goes, the most famous Christian hymn ever written in English. The trans movement takes the opposite view trans Audiology claims dominion over nature itself. We can change the identity. We were born with they will tell you with wild-eyed certainty. Christians can never agree with this statement because these are powers. They believe God Alone possesses. All right, I think that's exactly what we want to talk about right there.
So the claim is the opposite and therefore, it's antithetical to Christian views, which are is at least a vast majority of a of what this country is made up of. What do you think about that one? Steve. I think it's kind of consistent with the accusation that anytime the left throws out some sort of accusation against their political enemies. It's always something that they're doing, it's always the opposite.
So they're saying, you know, you you cheated in the election this way, well, they were cheating that way or you want it's just very consistent that they look Inward and then project. Outward to what they want. And I think that the Tucker makes a really good point there especially towards the end when he, he talked about having dominion over reality, we always hear this, my truth. Well, if you accept the premise, that there is a, my truth, you can certainly shape the truth,
the way you want. There's, I think you and I can agree. There's only the truth and you really can't shape that. Anyway, it's just is what it is. But certainly, when you hear the left, talk about their truth, my truth, they have Control over that and they can change on the Wind. They can feel like something one day and something different the next day and immediately we're all supposed to accept that new truth truth and reality is
they've they've concocted. Yeah, that's the sort of postmodernist attitude about things, right? Is that there's a subjective sense of reality and everybody's version of it is equally a value, but then nobody's truth can be a value because especially, when they come in Conflict unless they go, This hierarchical order.
So his whole point that there is an opposite belief one being that essentially that the human being is God and therefore, can defined all reality as needed, but only certain people get to do that, right? I mean that's that's really what's going on. You mentioned, projection projection is a legitimate psychological concept.
That's when you actually do see the things that are your own flaws and you put them on somebody else and you make them an external Tormentor, my wife has been a guilty He's been the victim of a lot of that from friends of hers. Who got mad leftist. It turns out when we got married, it was one of the things that she looked out and, and, and they were projecting all of their own iniquities on her. And she's one of the nicest people that there is she's nicer than I am by a lot.
Like, you know, probably probably as we all hope you want to marry someone that's much better than you and you strive to be a better person as a man at least. And anyway, this is just interesting. Lift is concept that they do that. Yeah, I think even just we talk about family, A basic parental Concepts. I was having to about if when we're old and gray if one of her boys comes to the house with the grandkids and he's 100 pounds overweight, would we be good?
Parents and loving parents to say, you look great, fantastic to see you. I think the left would say, yeah, you gotta affirm that that's body positivity, whereas you and I would say no that's destructive to our child. We should say you've never looked worse. You need to get your butt in the gym and consider eating a vegetable every now. And then, again, we're back to the opposite. And I think that's sort of Guided by our worldview versus theirs.
So that segues very nicely into something that I saw on. Steven Crowder I don't watch Steven Crowder stuff all that much. I like Steven Crowder. I've always found him to be articulate and I think that he hammers home some interesting points, but one of the discussions that they had on his show on Thursday and I had to share with my wife. Once I wiii see certain things that go like, oh man, that's inherently true. And he's a funny guy. No doubt, right?
So, he does this whole bit where they play this video. He's Got The Hodgetwins on there, too, and I like them. Leo. This is kinda weird and junkie, um, not bad looking, but she's, you know, she's not a smoke show that anybody is gonna, you know, drop everything and run after.
And I only say that because the first thing she says, as she says in this really awful, like, you can just visit, you know, you could hear if I had the sound mixer right now, I do the AOC pitch shift, but she's going like, you know, I'm perfect the way I am and I was built this way. Any man, you know who would deserve me? Would accept me because I'm Flawless as God Made Me.
And that is also the opposite of the way that we look at the world because we're all flawed and sinful once again, this is very antithetical to Christianity but it's also really funny because it's the opposite of the way that men are portrayed. Imagine if you went in to a potential relationship saying, I'm Flawless and perfect the way that I am and nobody can change me. And anybody that deserves me would accept me as I am. I mean, that's not marketable, he's a big man splitting.
First of all, I think, He'll only got two, you'd be all by yourself because you can even if you're married, your wife does not going to put up with that even if they vowed to be with you until death. Do you part that might be one of those things where she straightens you out pretty clearly, right? I mean like that just doesn't
fly as a man. Yeah I think if you look to somebody running for political office there's close as you get to that because they're trying to make themselves be Flawless they're perfect. I alone can be your Senator because I have all these immutable characteristics and and I'm separate that's why I think one of the most revelatory things I heard listening to some of these people that are in
politics. They said you got to look to the spouse because there are going to be able to hold that ego and check if it's a strong spouse who's not maybe as equally ambitious or has their eyes on something else. But is just supporting their their better half that. Maybe that Politician has a chance to not lose their soul. Otherwise, you're just going down this dark path of. I'm perfect. And I should Lord over all my
constituents. So when I saw this woman doing this piece and they showed a couple of different women doing it, you know, that was the bit that Crowder opened up a show with it didn't make me think like oh what a terrible person, this woman is right because that's that's not what's going on here and I don't mean that to be the case. What is interesting, is what a terrible ideology has been has been allowing this woman to believe that, that is a way.
Oh, by the way, she had hype, man, which I don't know if he was gay or her partner or what, but there was another dude that it would like cut away too. On a couch and she would go, you know, I'm perfect the way I am and he would go fact, you know. And then she'd be like I'm you know just how God made me is perfect and amazing or whatever he would go fact and it's like no that's not in fact actually we're all made pretty
imperfectly. That's the nature of our life and it's going to it's going to go next into the thing that I heard from Google. Which I think we as well it is kind of with are spent. Yeah, that is not our credible position to hold. I'm perfect as I am I don't need to make myself any better, like, self-improvement is the thing that we spend most of our Lives doing whether it be education,
which is a leftist thing, right? Like the left loves education, whether it be Fitness, like, nobody wants somebody that's sloppy and out of shape. You want people that are bettering themselves and bettering their intellect and bettering all the different parts of their facets and including their spirituality, their humility, which I think is sorely lacking right now but all these things, make her a female
that nobody's going to want. And so she's over here self-affirming, this thing that is obviously untrue. Ooh, and then the sad thing is, is that she ends up lonely, because of it and, and Men know instinctively, you can't get away with that. That's what I meant more.
Moreover men can't get away with it because if you try to tell that to a woman, they're going to walk on to the next guy who's humble capable, you know, bring something to the table and also is willing to improve when because I think Phil and you and I would all agree. Like if I wife tells us to do something, we don't necessarily want to do it. We go. Like that's that's part of the cost of doing business here even when she may not be 100% right, she's not wrong. So what do I care?
Like that's that's pouring of yourself. To become a better person, you're willing to accept this sort of thing. And if you were to just go like, no, I'm perfect. I'm not going to mow the lawn the mod Lawns fine as it is like. That's how God made it. Like, that's not gonna fly. You're going to be a lonely. Dude, she's gonna pick up and leave and find somebody who will mow the lawn and take care of things. And I think it's just so destructive to just your life force or whatever.
I remember, I, my grandfather was just a big voracious reader. A week is trying to learn things and towards the end End of his
life. I remember, I read a book and I brought to him, I said, hey Pop, I really think you'd like this and he's was like, now, you know, I think I'm done reading and that was just mind-blowing to me because I was like, okay, he's now come to the conclusion that he's done growing as a person and I don't think he's hanging on for very long after that, and it was not very long before he passed.
I think his soon. As you give up the momentum, they're just all Always driving forward and progressing in yourself in intellectually and spiritually and physically anything here. You just, you're in a waste away. Yeah, that's an interesting thought and I think it's I think it's true through like that. That's what western Society is built on, right? The, the march of progress forward.
It's interesting that the people on the left have refer to themselves as progressives, when in a lot of ways. The things they're doing are very regressive, they are not building something that's better. They're building something that's sadder and and it's, it's obviously having bad consequences which is going to
lead to this. This other little dispersed thought that I was I'm driving through the middle of the desert in New Mexico. And I've got the radio, you know, I run out of radio signal where I was. So, I move to the podcast and I've got the dr. Drew the Adam Carolla dr. Drew show, which is about half an hour, and if you don't listen to that, it's definitely, it's an uplifting moment to listen to two people that are very
intelligent. One of whom is very educated and one of them is not but has a lot of Street smarts right. Adam is he's got a lot of Street smarts and experience and he's very successful when he does and he's also hilarious. So we always comes in with his like anger, then Drew kind of always I mean, I've been listening to love line when I was a teenager. So, this goes back 25 years.
So it's kind of like, it's kind of like nostalgic for me, but I hear Adam get into this thing about self-esteem and he said, went in 2006, he walked into the studio and he was yelling that dr. Drew and whoever he was with about this thing that was called the something fuzzy wahby or something. Like, I don't even know what the name of the cartoon was, and it obviously was not my generation.
I was already out of college but then but he said this is going to be a problem and the kids who were listening to it got this song that was called you're the coolest and you're the coolest is a horrible song so you guys could just go listen to Drew an atom talking about and on his podcast from I think Wednesday goes to that. If you want, if you want to hear the song, but the reflection they had was about self-esteem and the self-esteem movement, which I probably am guessing.
You heard about in maybe middle school or High School kind of write. It was like, everybody was trying to build the self-esteem. Yep, that was, that was the way it was. I was the way we got rid of, I remember when they got rid of doubt, That was a middle school because that was a self esteem killer. We did, we played dodgeball in high school and we try to hurt
each other. So, the, the inevitable lesson that came out of the self-esteem movement, which was obviously, a, left-leaning sort of sensibility was. We need to take care of people with low self-esteem because they're the ones doing the bad things. They're the ones that are doing the robberies, the instead murderers, they're the ones that are Flint certain thing.
They're not, you know, a living up to their potential and if it was only, if they had a better self-esteem, they wouldn't do these awful things to other people. Is that a fair summation? Yeah, I think. I mean, it will get into this sort of subject matter soon. I mean, that was column by that was those kids were picked on and brutalize and they had, they sought that the darkest option for themselves, because their self-esteem had been so abused.
Exactly. Yes. So we attributed, it was, it was society's fault for not helping them build up their self-esteem. They didn't feel like they had enough worth and that's why they did these horrible things, Adam flipped it on its head. I've never heard anyone say it this way, but it was, it was kind of a revolutionary thought experiment, when I was gone, he goes death, row is full of people that have the highest self esteem in the world, because how high would your self-esteem have to be?
How much would you have to think of yourself, to be able to kill somebody else and take their life people with low? Team are busy trying to figure out how to make themselves be better, which is essentially the opposite of the way. It was always sold to me and I think that is true. I think that you have to be a raging narcissist in some ways to go and think I'm so important. I need this so much more than the other person.
I'm going to put a gun in somebody's face at a store and take what they have, take the the cash out of the register, I would have to be, you know, someone who really loves myself thinks, very highly of myself to go and take somebody else's life and not Let them be able to progress further and so I never heard it said that way before, but it lined up with all these three things I was you know, three things in two days that have all been the same and it's the opposite of what was sold.
Its exactly backwards and it leads us to a lot of the evil that's going on in this country. And I think we can talk about a, we can do a tactical sort of dismantlement or after action of the shooting that happened in Tennessee this week. But the way that you get there is the cell Steam movement is
the my truth is the truth. That's most important is the, you know, trans people who can Define themselves as God and and subjectively redistribute the, the reality that everyone else has to deal with all those things. Kind of they're all backwards and they lead people to do things that are backwards, which is to say go and attack children, who are the least likely to cause problems for anybody. Like children.
I mean, except for their parents, maybe, but children are The reason why we do almost anything in a society, that's the thing that we protect and defend. I think everybody sort of innate Lee knows that. So that's that's backwards too. I think that the, the plum line here that's missing in all those scenarios is humility.
So I think the difference between somebody who has very high self-esteem and is out of control megalomaniac, and a person who's confident, which is where you look to that, example and say, well, that's what I want, my son to be, is that confident? It's somebody who's been humbled which I had a lot of respect for these guys who were in like the Mixed Martial Arts. They're very confident.
They've they know that their abilities to actually do damage on somebody and then they'll be safe if they are ever confronted with violence, but that came from getting choked out a million times in the gym, they've been humbled before, and I don't think because we're so scared, about damaging people's self-esteem. They've never been humbled and they just steady go continues to grow and it's never been had a chance to be deflated and brought back to a normal size.
Sighs. I sort of have been reflecting that. It's a, it's an imbalance. It's a, it's a, it's a mismatch between people's self estimation of their worth and their actual words, so self esteem versus what societies esteem of them is. And when those things are in conflict with each other and you mentioned somebody in mixed martial arts.
So let's let's evaluate that somebody who has a high degree of skill to be able to defend themselves and they walk around and they project that image and people. Give them that same credibility when they see them because they're built a certain way. They've you know they've handled himself. They carry themselves in a way like that and nobody really wants to mess with that guy. You could see it like nobody's going to pick a fight with Joe
Rogan, a crazy person, right? But Joe Rogan has the highest and the hardest leg kick recorded on that one of these little Force, ometer things in Vegas, and unless you were a complete fool, you can see that when you look at the man, because the man carries himself in a certain way, and you can tell people like Tim Kennedy, who does the Sheepdog response? And teaches law enforcement, you know, classes about how to handle things. He's, you know, Special Forces
former operator. You know, when you meet guys like that, and I've met a bunch and I usually can pick up on it. They carry themselves a certain way and then we believe that they are the same thing. They don't have to tell us what their worth is. We already know. But when you are the opposite of that you see, like, you know, the classic like 80's 90's. Slacker sort of the Gen-X example of the dude who's you know, the what is it, the Jay
and Silent Bob types, right? Like they're, they're kind of Scruffy. The kind of hunched over their prop there, they're not carrying them self in a way, they're not really humble either, they're kind of just jerks about something, they're projecting, sort of like a weakness and but they evaluate themselves really high because you know they're fighting the man or whatever the heck it was that was that was the way I was raised like the Slackers were always pushing
back against whatever the standard was. Now, the Slackers are are angry. That anyone doesn't think really, really highly of them on. They haven't done nothing to deserve that thing that people would think highly of Yeah, that's them. And that's how you get this loud. Very loud presence of hundreds and hundreds of people. They're just going to storm the Tennessee Capital because their voice needs to be prioritized in front of the will of the
electorate. I mean, look, I'm not opposed to First Amendment you and I obviously both very supportive of that if you want to protest. You could do it. Definitely doesn't entitle you to storm through that building much like we saw on. R6 there was supposed to be a peaceful protest out front. Let your voice be heard. The individuals that thought that dog. They were special person and and went in.
You know, under those suspicious circumstances, where they're just, you know, there's violence, that's somebody who needed to have their ego. May be put in check a little earlier on than that. I saw a picture of a what they call the died in which is like my most, I despise that term and that and that, whatever that technique being used by these people to communicate something. So they all basically go in then
they just lay down on the floor. I cannot think of a, my two-year-old does that, by the way, my two-year-old regularly does it die in whenever I go? He says, you know, kind of ice cream. He'll be like ice cream. And I'll be like, there's no more ice cream and then he'll just go. Oh, and I'll Just Fall to the floor and just lay there like something.
Gonna happen. And I go get up, you turd, you know, like a column, a turd he knows he's a turd and then he gets up and then now he's better and he's too if these are ones Step Above holding your breath, to get your way, it's the same thing, it's literally the same thing. You are laying on the floor and flopping like a like a child, throwing a tantrum. So they came into the Texas capital did this and imagine the humility that would have been that would have been meted out on these people.
If strong Texas state troopers, you know, the DPS Trooper. Rolled in there, wearing body armor with their their holstered pistols, and there, you know, and and their uniforms on and just grab the two of them by the ankles and just like pull them into a pile, and just show them what a dye and looks like, make a mass grave of these idiots that are flopping around on the ground. How many, how far would they have to pull them across the linoleum?
You know, about a dozen of them get stacked on top of each other in a corner just throwing them into a room. Just we're done with you. Get out of the way. You know, you had your first amendment ability to do a die-in but now we gotta walk across these floors and you don't get to own the fort Floors. These are the people's floors and just dragging him. You know, you'd see Hands just making the squeaking noise across the the Polish tile.
That would that would have been the humility that should have happened. And and honestly, they're supposed to be consequences when you do things like Civil Disobedience, right? People used to go to jail because they would say I'm going to do a sit-in at a lunch counter and they would take you out for trespassing and you would go sit in jail for the night or two until somebody came and bailed you out the consequences don't exist
anymore. So we're getting all of the the drama and all of the ridiculous like Social media dopamine hit and we're not getting any of the humility that supposed to come
with it as well. Because if you go out there and do something like that, and I think you and I have talked about this as well, when we, when we do a whistleblower activity, we bring something to the Forefront and then if it's not received or more worth it, like, when the, when the bureau denies it after some period of time, you kind of go like, am I? A psychopath? Did I miss the boat?
And you always have to have that moment of self-doubt if not You are a psychopath like you've lost touch with what's going on in reality and because we have that that check. The only thing that happens is like the beard is another thing. That's terrible. So then we're able to re expose it and we're reaffirmed that we're doing the right thing. These people are not getting any of the ego check where where they have to at least question themselves?
Like am I am I the bad guy here? Am I the 50 people taking up space in the Texas Capitol? Like just flopping around like toddlers instead of being you know, rewarded with Social media and and even the mainstream media, like praising them and talking about how the real victim of a shooting where three children and it was at Fort for adults or three and three, I think three and three, you know, people were killed and they were
doing nothing. They were literally going to a Christian School and some Maniac came event with and decided to shoot them because because of her own issues, my understanding is, is the biological female. And this is the other ridiculous moment where we're bending history right now, but he biological female who was taking mail, Hormones didn't know how to deal with it and enrolled in and attacked like maybe her old
school. For some reason, the FBI has the manifesto so that's even weirder and yeah it'll just be shoved down. The memory hole, I would say the the Vegas shooting memory hole but some some nonsense got exposed with that recently. That makes me question. What's going on with the FBI even more? Yeah, so that came out yesterday and what we get.
Is a news drop from the AP. Stating some FBI documents and I don't know how old these things are some FBI documents indicate that the problem with this guy Steven haddock was that he he lost a bunch of money and a bunch of money was like tens of thousands of dollars for a dude who had a bankroll apparently between two and three million dollars. So maybe like one percent of his bankroll like that's not even that's not even a major swing for people that are serious gamblers. I don't know.
I don't know if you ever been in a casino before but being around people that spend money on tables like Taking a swing of 20 or 30%, is that's what you do. If you're going to be putting things on line, that's gambling. Is it would he was considered to be this professional Gambler to according to the story, which always lends itself to my mind. The theory was he was doing something else illegal and laundering the money through the casino. Certainly that was certainly
never investigated. So what we waited six years and my question is what's he doing on the other hand it's always about misdirection they're dropping that. Why? What else are they trying to? To distract our attention from with that news, drop. Because that is a ill-conceived like like you compared to like yeah, covid started from a bat in Wuhan like that. That's the level of idiocy that you assume that we have to accept that premise that's the mainstream media.
We're dealing with right now the the media narratives are we're going to tell you what the truth is the sort of Mika Brzezinski statements the you know, we tell people what to think. Because we're the real thing and then we're all just supposed to digest that happily and just choke down these lies.
There's no question that that's the ridiculous thing to have waited six years to release if that was something they wanted to release, they could have done that within a couple days and then I've already gone like even that doesn't add up because a man with no History of Violence and no particular obsession with weapons. Suddenly decides to bring you know a dozen of them up and and and significant like I don't know if you've had to cart around ammunition and guns in a
big way. I'm sure when you were doing Training, right? Like moving gear is a pain in the butt and add in the older. You get I have to imagine it gets more and more of a pain because at 40 right now it's not my favorite thing to move all my guns. I'm currently doing right now and all my ammo. You know I woke up sore the next day and I was like, man. Like that being said, I have literally, like, several thousand rounds for every weapon I have.
And I've got That many weapons to you've got you've got up to that. I've got dozens of weapons. It's know. There was somebody who I think my mother was asking me. She was like, how much, how much ammo did you put in that truck? And I was like, I don't know, 20 or 30,000 rounds. And she was like, oh, that seems like a lot knows, like, I feel like, I'm slacking. I'm even what you're talking about. Like, that's that's a couple of days in a bad Outpost, you know,
what's? Hopefully, I don't live in one of those places where that's gonna be a problem, but this guy supposedly, Those up in multiple trips and then shot at a concert. Yeah, at a country music, concert was amazing at a casino. I mean, it's absurd on its face. Let's do a what we'll do. We'll save the debrief for the end of it and then we'll roll into your the news you want to share with us about just the house.
How silly the world is because it's kind of light-hearted in the other news is we saw you know speaking of absurdities and maybe things that they're trying to distract us from we saw that President Trump was finally a pair We indicted by the grand jury in Manhattan. So this is a local DEA even though people in New York think that New York is the center of the world. Nobody who doesn't live in New York thinks that way the rest of us, don't really care.
What goes on in New York 0 times a day. Do I think about what's happening in New York City even though people in New York City, believe that. That's all we think about out in the rest of the world. So this da who's a local DEA Secured an indictment of some kind and then leaked it. First of all, is that the seem common to me, I don't remember that. Being the case, you get a grand, jury indictment.
You don't let it out until you either serve the process and either a summons or an arrest warrant. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think once you have the indictment to seal gets lifted at that point to it, all that information is supposed to be put out publicly. So I don't know what the whole agenda was in leaking it now, and let's say, they're predicting some sort of lag and time for one reason or another. And, and obviously, he wants to get his version of what's goes out.
You know, any sort of out of context things that he wants, four things promoted by the media. Because once that first initial surge of media happens, everything else will that is a correction will be lost in the shuffle. So you've got experience in local law enforcement and federal, so I'm kind of curious about how you're thinking about this. But I listen to Alan dershowitz who, you know, he's on all the programs at all the times and he has a very obviously strong
bases and discussing. See things from a constitutional perspective. His belief is that it will be immediately dismissed because the statute of limitations has passed the argument for them going longer and trying to go after it this way, was that they had to wait because Trump was not in New York at the time, but Trump is not in New York now. So that doesn't make any sense. They indicted him out of state.
And then the other piece is they have to basically claimed that there was an underlying crime that his misdemeanor was covering for And so that's going to be a difficult, you know, path group. Obviously the indictment is much easier to do than actually proving this case. But if there's a statute of limitations issue and and they're trying to indict him, they've you know, they've invited him, but he's not in the state.
They're still going to have to get extradition or he's going to have to hear those charges in Florida. Is that correct? Like they would put in front of a Magistrate Judge or? No. I think he's gonna negotiate going on on his own to New York. I think, as I understand it, he wants that Image, I think that's good for him politically to just portray himself and get donations rolling in and that sort of thing.
So I think they won't have the, you know this this unlawful flight to avoid prosecution scenario where they're going to get the feds involved. I think he'll actually just fly in and get the, get the image of him, get his fingers printed and if they're not even do that, but it's such a stretch of a charge to begin with. I don't even know what the protocols are for that. Even if Was there's no statute of limitations on it. I hit, I don't understand how
they came to decision. That that was a wise thing that they were going to charge other than they knew. They wanted to charge something, you know. Find the man, I'll find the crime and then there's I think that they probably figure both sides will mutually benefit from this. He's not going to do any time in jail, he probably wants the photo op and this is going to launch. Alvin Bragg's Ascension to something else because certainly we being the da Manhattan is is
a stepping stone. I don't think that's going to be the end game for him. He'll probably write a book and then get Chuck Schumer senate seat or something like that. Gross. One of the things and we're discussing things that are the opposite of what they say. The political left in the United States, loves the federal government, right? They love the most powerful part of the supremacy clause saying that we're going to come in and
do whatever. While we're going to force gay marriage on every single state, the state's rights are lower their subordinate. You this overarching federal government. And now what they're trying to claim is that they're going to take a former president who is a federal protectee of the United States, Secret Service, right?
And they're going to bring him in and they're going to do this process to do. Even if it's a photo op, I cannot imagine the Secret Service being derelict in their Duty. They're going to have to treat the entire area, like any other former presidential visit, they're going to have to clear it of threats, right?
So yeah, they're going to have to go send an advance team to exactly go through the Manhattan DA office, to make sure there's no threats, which there might be a lot of actually, if you consider the political into that office, correct, and and and then we're setting up a situation where they're going to turn over because he's innocent till proven guilty. He's going to have to be surrounded by Secret Service the
whole time. I mean they might as well just do this thing over Zoom because it's not going to go any further than that. There's there's there's just no justification to make any of this thing. Make any sense. Once again, everything is backwards when you start going like well you know, in our case we want that we want to Manhattan da to indict because that's going to show that nobody is above the law.
Even though there's this basic movement that everybody that they choose is above the law and that the federal government should be able to do whatever it wants. It's just all turned on its head in so many different ways that it's difficult for me to even process. What a secret service, protect D going into a, you know, a Processing center is going to look like I can't even fathom it
at this point. Yeah. And I mean, just in this, the idea of prosecutorial discretion, like, if it was a legitimate that that crime, if it was legitimate thing to charge, would even ever be charged on anybody and let along, we're gonna send the message, it's sort of like, the Martha Stewart, Insider training, but at least with Insider training, that's a
felony. She actually did time for that, I don't know what sort of jail sentence they would have, you know, even if they maxed out Trump's sentence and he plead guilty or you know, was convicted Or something like that. I don't even know if he pays time in jail, I'm not sure. I don't know that the New York statute on it but you know, light of what we're seeing in the DC District federally. I mean I think I commented this week that I was actually surprised that the doj was
honoring. Miranda can saying that you can have an attorney because obviously they thrown on Giglio and jencks and Brady and attorney-client privilege. So So, why even give them a attorney at this point? Yeah, no, that's true. It's, it's just bizarre on every level and then you also figure that You know, we're talking about hush money payment for like an aging stripper, adult film star who was paid paid off by one of his attorneys.
It wasn't made up by Trump. So, the stretch here, the whole things to go after its such as and I think this, the juice of that squeeze was in 2016 because they got to hang them all. Oh, look, he had sex with a porn star and like that was. The reason that that story came out it wasn't for anything criminal, it was just, we're going to try to embarrass him and make a little character issue. Same as the Billy Bush Video Grabber by the hoo-ha.
I mean, that's what happens in these campaigns so now they weren't all way back were like, wait, maybe there was a crime, we could charge. I don't know who's calling shots in these rooms and things like, oh, that's a good idea. But I'm back to. I think they did it because their side wants to be able to say, they got it, something done, and then the other side wants to say, look what they did to us, vote for us, and it's just so gross.
I hate everything about it. Yeah, I agree with that theory, let's talk about something that was done really well this week. And that was, you know, in the worst case scenario and I think this is a parental Nightmare on anybody who sends their kids to school, has to have this sort of thing that you have, you wake up in the moment. I in a cold sweat, this is the
thing. It's some unhinged individual coming into the school where your kids are at where you're not there to physically be there to protect them. Especially guys like you and me and and he starts. Shooting. So we've got this transgender female whatever the heck that means a woman. This is another piece of it to somebody mentioned and I think they're correct imagine and All the Rage of being a teenage boy
13 14 15 years old. But with all the like the buying power and poured a physicality in the put on autonomy of being an adult. And she was about 28 years old, something like that, you know, one of the upsides of mail Puberty if there is such a thing because I think male puberty is pretty awful like going through it, like it's awkward and it's uncomfortable and, you know, everybody's body changes all the
way. But moreover, like there's just moments where you just furious about all these things, because that's what testosterone can do. That's why you briefly guys who have Roid Rage and fury, worked with dudes. That's Antwoord, you know, juicing. But they're, they're very uncomfortable people to be around their volatile and ways that are not predictable in any
way, shape, or form. And then, you know, that's kind of what we've done with females that are taking these It's like they don't know how to deal with that. The upside to being 14 or 15. Is there's like only so much you can do with that. You know what I mean? Like you could go put a hole in your door. You can get hit by your dad or whatever.
Yeah, at least at least, dad can still handle you at that point to, that's it. And we'll most in most houses even that is that you just don't have that autonomy to go off and do your own thing. You're not gonna go to a gun store, you know, if your pit no and even if she was acting out physically, she was still a she and I think that there would The chances of a physical confrontation from somebody being like, what did you just say to me is next to nil?
So there was never going to be any sort of negative reinforcement on that whole process. Okay, yeah. So so now we've got this, we've got this 28 year old female on male hormones and then this like horrific situation, all right? The the silver line Infinity this is that basically the Nashville Police Department, put on a clinic on, what should be taught for all First Responders. Two active Shooters under the sort of the alert process.
Were you an alert instructor by chance, or did you just go through the training with SWAT? And I went to the training on my own and then had training on the SWAT. And then, the bureau would send me to alert training because I wasn't a tactically trained, right instructor, if you got, if you folks, can imagine the FBI has a bunch of these different stupid Hoops, you have to jump through and the Hoops are exactly what you'd expect from the feds.
It doesn't matter if you're Confident, you have to go check some stupid box and only the guys that are liked by certain people that get to pay for that training but all that being said, we you set an expectation of what it really should look like. We're going to go see how it actually got done, which is almost exactly by the book. I think what is the what is the modus operandi of responding to an active shooter? What are the challenges number one? And then what is the goal?
Number two? Well, so it's a, It's Quickly, a evolving situation. So so right away. You don't know where you have to go into this structure to go address. This threat that is its contrary in the response to everything else that you do in law enforcement where Personnel safety is Paramount. You know, hey, look if it's not here we'll come back tomorrow. We'll come back later here. The preservation of life is the utmost Focus so you have to sacrifice your personal safety.
T, if the sacrifice ideal tactics choose in order to achieve speed to move to contact because loss of time is loss of life. Sorry, not sorry, you got training, you got equipment, you got body armor. You gotta go get in a gunfight right now. So yeah. What is that? What is that sacrifice when it comes to safety? You said it, but what does that look like? What are the sort of you may have to do that would?
Yeah, you do you wouldn't do any sort of threshold assessment, where you would stand outside of a door and then pick the optimal way. And Stage yourself in a way that you could then take one room over and then. All right, we own this room move to the next room. You just have to immediately respond to whatever area you think that they shooting is going on at. So, in this case, they heard shooting is it? And you can actually hear the officer say.
From upstairs. So they by that point or bypassing all these doors where you would never know that would be a major mistake on your part. If you're doing just typical Close Quarter battle where you would just bypass doors and not address them because they're you never know what's behind it. They had to move immediately to the contact situation.
It's also heart-wrenching because you have to drive past people who might be physically injured and in need of Medical Aid. Because if you stop for that Split, Second, that could mean somebody else is getting hurt. So they will always prepared for and we'd have role players, that would be there. Screaming, like help me help me, help me and you just have to ignore it.
As cold as hard as it is because if the threat is still there, once the threat is mitigated and you can, you know, go check back and help those folks. But it's unlike anything else and then I was actually also thinking about a snake as much as best practices or always changing and law enforcement especially with anything in the Tactical.
I mean it's just in the time that I was Why we went from like speed 20 slow and methodical 20, we're going to be outside and call them out or now we're going to roll lat, we're going to be on drones and technology. And next we'll have attar's or something, but since Columbine man, 25 years or I think about 25 years since Columbine that is been best practices, no change to it. But and and actually, it's probably a good thing because now it's universally around law,
enforcement agencies. And the case with Nashville, those guys were Squared away. Yeah, so so alert is the standard, it's a l r RT. I believe is what it's called. I don't know what the abbreviation is, Phil may be able to look it up for us. It comes out of San Marcos Texas, which is Texas State University, and it's a codified way of taking the lessons from Columbine, essentially and doing what they call Direct a threat, right?
Like the goal is to quickly engage, can you tell people why the goal is to engage as quickly as possible? Like, what the most to most likely outcomes are When you meet an active shooter with Force, the you're going to kill them or they're going to kill themselves. That's pretty much it. Right often times, we find that like the minute they meet opposition. And these people already have a plan to take themselves out of the equation. And then, the alternative is
what happened? In this particular scenario in Tennessee, where the good guy does the thing that needs to be done? I don't want to give away too much of it. If people haven't seen it, if you haven't spent time, looking at it, but we'll look at it as like law enforcement officers on their Phil. Are you able to throw that thing up and kind of Play for both of us here to take a look at it. Or is that something we can't
show? No, I can show it on the video here and maybe I can narrate and give you guys kind of a play-by-play. And then we can pause and stop as your ideas come up. Because I think everyone's probably seen the video who listens to this show, but they would probably really appreciate your takes even like, you know right down to the scope and different things like that. So let her know before you even launched it. There's one thing that because I know Kyle talked about this with
his first aid. I'd cast. And if that was this fight or flight, but it's actually freeze as part of that, and I kind of play off that with say, you're never going to rise to the occasion, you're going to sink to the level of your training. There could have been training, but I also think that there needs to be an identity of that you sink to the level of your planning. So when you see the first initial thing with this guy shows up, he has planned what he's going to do.
There's a reason that the rifle is staged and he immediately giving directive. He planned it out in his head for Or if and when it ever happens, this is what I'm going to do. So our two officers that we see the body cam footage from that have been kind of identified as the two Shooters and heroes of the scenario. One of his name is Rex. What's his last name? Angle triangle Bert Engelbert. And then the other one is Michael. I'll have to look it up.
Yeah, I know it's it's Italian and I'm embarrassed a little bit just because my buddy makes it that he's a, he spent time with him, I wrote this down the other day, it's like calibri but I could be wrong and sorry about that. So the thing that people who are serious, I think in law enforcement that are serious and Military scenarios, do they look in their downtime and they think what could go wrong here? And what would my response fee? And you're constantly wargaming
out the scenario. As you mentioned, this is Officer, Rex he comes out and the first thing he does is he pulls the stage rifle quickly. He closes the vehicle and secures it back up, so nobody gets access to his weapons, right? These are these are thoughts, you have to have beforehand. You don't necessarily Rise to that occasion. You forget things if you don't
do it that way. But one of the things they always train you even at like let's say somewhere as non-tactical as Quantico is you take the keys for the vehicle when you get out, right? Because the first thing that happens is your subject gets away from you. They're going to get in your vehicle and drive off. Now they got your vehicle and that's double embarrassment and so is the paperwork as they would say in the bureau.
But but moreover now this is somebody who's been now armed with the vehicle that they didn't have before. So you take things out of the fight by knowing what's in the fight? Like knowing the entire situation, awareness of it. So fight flight Freeze part of it is is knowing what you're going to do next part of it is planning. Part of it. Is that tactic? So 100%. The other thing is, is this is a guy who was a very serious tool
Phil mentioned it as well. One of the first things that I saw is that this guy has his weapon set up the way that I think law enforcement responses, should at least one person on active shooter. Detail should have what they call a low variable, power optic and LV p 0 and we mentioned that will actually hear it in the video but the other officers are aware of this tool. Not everybody needs to have that. That most people need to be with a handgun. They need to be with their
abilities, to use their hands. A handgun is easily stowed in a holster and secured. A handgun is good because you can open doors and you can move things. Over rifles, slow you down in some ways. Most people don't spend enough time with a rifle to be good at it guys. And SWAT people that spend time in tactical environments, spend extra time training, but, you know, I don't know if you experienced General FBI agents and even General beat cops, trying to employ a rifle, it's
not impressive. I would say it's just a gentle way to said you have a different way. No, I agree with you. I mean there's probably occasions where I said there's no magazine and that rifle right now, just so, you know, right? We've actually seen straight law enforcement officers do responses like in the state of New Mexico, you know, get involved in a shooting and then check their rifle. And the thing they did was drop the magazine out and rack an empty slide and then go into a
conflict with an empty gun. Yep. I mean, there's videos of these things happening and the reason why is because weapons manipulation is not the thing that they Spent their time on, they fall to the level of their preparedness, which was none, and they know that that's the tool they're supposed to have. But they don't how to implement the tool properly. They're better off using the tool that they do know how to implement. And so, in the case of this, what we see is really good
really good. The other challenge that that's that alert helps deal with. And I think it's worth noting on here is the idea of alert and active shooter response is that you're going to get people from everywhere. When the call goes out, that there is an active shooter in a school, in a mall, in a church. Church, law enforcement entities from all over, will respond to it and you'll get local sheriff's department. You'll get federal agents that
are in the area. You'll get the local police department, which is not the same as the sheriff. They may have different radio frequencies. A lot of times they'll have the mutual Aid channels but what they will not have is always the same tactics. And so what alert does is it fundamentally streamlines, the
process. Let's not get fancy, we're not going to do run the rabbit, we're not going to do you know, pieing the corners and all these kind of things are applying the where they call the the sly senpai. Plus 10, 10, plus 10. So they're not going to do different clear tactics that are all everybody has their own like best practices and they're always as you mentioned it used to be slow and methodical than it was quick. You know, speed is our friend. There's always this play back
and forth. Alert is the simplest formation. The only thing that I saw that these guys did and and I will I will give them the, you know, I'll buy everyone of them. A beer for, not letting good, be the enemy of the perfect, be the enemy of good. In this case, they didn't have a great formation running down the hallways because Sometimes the guys in the rear were actually covering the guys in the front and at that point you have to go to the safety.
Rules will see some of the video, but some of the muscles actually flag each other a little bit as you mentioned. So what actually in this case, in edit mode makes a bad decision than no decision and there is is on you were behaving and there are ways that you can do those things. If you are still a bang all the safety laws and you break one. As long as you don't break all the safety laws, you're still good. Your fingers off the trigger and you flag your buddy. It's not good.
It's not ideal. But I'd rather you get forward and stop someone killing kids. So, these guys did the thing that needed to be done and sometimes they took a little bit of leeway with it because they were moving quickly and they weren't being perfect, but they were definitely good enough. And so that is like, that's the message that should be taken away from it. Go quickly go direct to threat as they as they call it and go Stop The Killing immediately.
And if that means you put yourself In Harm's Way a little bit, either from yourself, you know, from your own team or from the shooter as you mentioned by passing. Doors. And you know, you're assuming that there's basically only threats in that one place where you can hear them which it turns out to be generally speaking.
Statistically that's the case then and and they were going off Intel to which the one person to know we have talked about is the woman that standing out front that meets them, she stood there with an active shooter and she had no cover and she came out and said there's a shooter that you know, that we've locked down. Gave them like the essential, she didn't say there's multiple Shooters.
She said there's a shooter so she could have been mistaken but obviously like, That's valuable intelligence. And she was brave enough to stand out there unarmed and give that to the guys that are coming in to save the day. All right, let's roll some footage. Yeah. So as Steve was just saying he comes up on the woman. Also let's pause real quick. He just I think people are going to be at. Should you get you guys here? Take he here acts around,
doesn't he? So he's not he's not rolling like that but basically what that's pretty standard. Yeah, so most people don't run, this is pretty standard. They call it what they call trunk ready or something to that effect. Yeah. Okay. Just you don't want to get sick close because he hit a bump and it sends around through the to the car, right? Blah. At the same time he remembers In The Heat Of This Moment. He's just spoken of the the woman he's racking around,
right? If he forgets to do that, what happens about a minute or two later, right? When he presses the trigger. Yeah, he's gonna drop, he's gonna drop a an empty hammer on there. So you know, good heads up. This is a thing that this guy is prepared for. He's prepared to take his weapon and put it into Action, if you're not doing that sort of thing on a regular basis when you remove it here. Here's the one of the rules that they always talk about know the
condition of your weapon, okay? The Israelis roll around in law, enforcement and military operations with with no round chambered in their handguns. So their first move is always to rack the slide and direct around in American law enforcement doesn't do that. Some have safeties.
Some know that this is your safety as they did in the Black Hawk Down movie so family but it's true the way that our modern Striker file pistols are generally concocted unless you put Your finger on the trigger, the round will not go off. These are not like revolvers where you could theoretically slip the hammer and the hammer would hit it, just can't happen it the way that they are built, there's actually a block inside
the machine inside the slide. I don't know how many people understand how their their weapons work, but it's like a nerd function of mine. There's a actual part called the striker block and it only is released under spring pretension when you pull the trigger back. So, multiple actions have to
happen. That's why they're called, you know, that's why the original Glock design was so exciting for people in law enforcement, because you could, Eva round chambered, you could drop the damn thing down the stairwell. And unless there was enough inertia, to actually trigger, not just the, the trigger backwards to have it fall backwards. It actually has to unlock the trigger lock which is a little piece in the middle of it. That will not allow you to pull the trigger.
Without, you know, if just the the momentum of the trigger was going backwards, it will not allow the round of fire. So there's a lot of these different safety mechanisms and the AR-15 platform a little different. A lot of departments choose to leave them empty, chamber, loaded magazine, and that means you're starting with either. 28, which a lot of people will load. What is your SWAT team, do 2828, okay? Or 30. Here's the thing, you know, what's really cheap Springs and
magazines? They cost, 10 bucks to replace the faulty magazine, it cost, two bucks to replace a faulty spring in your magazine. So anybody that's doing those sort of things like I know there are arguments in front of it. It's even funnier to me, that. You'd rather have two less rounds and you save yourself to dollars in like eight years. When the spring is finally worn out. It's one of those fun governmental arguments where
it's just like seriously. Like I know the government doesn't understand what's going on there. Somebody made that policy, I always carry 30. Just so, you know, I'd rather have two extra rounds because that's why I'm carrying a rifle in the first place anyway. So okay, so they're carrying a full magazine, he locks the thing here acts around and then he's approaching the thing that I love out here outside. He's yelling. Let's go, let's go, let's go. He's putting people into that
mindset. You'll see this on social media, all the time. Whenever something is happening where you're moving, you're saying the thing that people need to hear, people always like right out of that. Let's go. You know, like, yeah, I see it all the time. Let's Joe is our general, it's a thing right now, for our generation. Oh yep. Yep. Between the age of 25 and 50, right now. Let's go is like we're doing the thing. Whatever the thing is, it's the same as the the 911 like let's
roll. It's it's the guys on the on a flight 93 that said let's Roll. Yes. Right. It is it is a means you just have to start the momentum because that was the problem with the ivaldi. Nobody started the momentum. That's right, the whole situation could be different one guy, let's go. This is the this whole video and it kind of gives me some goose bumps on. It is a man getting called up to the Super Bowl. This is the Super Bowl of masculinity.
You are now about to put your From a line for kids, it really is, it's the Super Bowl of masculinity and you didn't know that. When you woke up this morning, you didn't know it. When you stretched out and put on your uniform, you didn't know it. When you roll them all with your family and you were going to freaking, you know, Banana Republic, even though you hate it, because that's where your wife had to do a return because somebody decided to buy you something on the registry, like
all of the things, right? You're there. And you are now, you are called up instantaneously into the Super Bowl. This guy, got the call active shooter, it's Super Bowl time and they went out there and played like Champions and that's the thing that is Why this video? It gives me like a lot of Hope even though it's the worst possible scenario.
It could have been so much so much worse because this person went and did not care about human life and we got like a bunch of men that basically said I'm ready to throw myself in the Gap right now and you know, call it what it is. But if men that went in that door doesn't mean it couldn't have been women that just wasn't. That's not what it was. We saw we saw dudes going in there doing the thing that they signed up to two and they're proving to you that what their oath was serious.
And that's the other piece as you know, are sort of suspended. Oil group likes to say, if somebody is not willing to If they're not willing to stand up and maybe lose their job over something like what are the odds are willing to lose their life over it? These guys are showing what it's really about. So once again it's just it's encouraging to me in a big way. All right, Phil you're going to do some narration and kind of talk us through.
It will stop because I've seen this video enough times. Yeah, you'll be able to recite it from memory. So Rex is coming up to the door. He's already passed the woman the cavalry's rolling in, and I think he finds out that the door is locked. So, heads up move, he gets keys from one of the two people standing outside the man outside
the super super heads-up move. This is one of those things like it saves you from having to breach, a bunch of X, you know, interior doors because people can fart. Like what do we see that happen? That was one of the things that happen in Uvalde, right? Okay. Yeah, they way they have the keys. So the same thing that's happening here is you know, immediately as soon as they go in the fire alarm is going, right? I actually like that a lot. I mean, that's as real as it gets.
Moreover, if they weren't in the right mindset that before they got in the door like what's what's that's telling you everything about a fire alarm tells us. There's an emergency, there's something wrong inside. Noah one of the children who lost her life was trying to get to the fire alarm, to pull it down when she got shot. Yep. She even at that age, she was trying to do something that's heart-wrenching. Okay, so they've already searched the first door, they're
going down the hallway. Looking to the door on the right. So, what we'll notice is they open their doing, what, what I learned as is called Rolling Thunder. Jibber-jabber call it that when you were no. But it sounds sounds pretty sick. So, in the, this is a military tactic of moving quickly, down a hallway and rolling through.
As you're just, you're hitting a, you're rolling into the room, you're doing the fastest clear possible, you're rolling back out, you're not stacking up and going back into the hallway, each time you're just going, is it? Let's go Guy. The one officer with the shotgun goes to stack, A cup and he pushed and he pushed them through the door to direct say we're not doing that. Yeah so officer Rex Engelbert is just literally like sending guys and he's quarterbacking it right away.
I don't know if he's a assume, he's a tactical training guy he's probably on their SWAT team but I haven't read anything about it, but he has the mindset that knows what's going on. He's looking at the entire thing and he's quarterbacking people, which is so much more important than being. The guy who gets to go in first who gets to breach any given door. And you can speak this a little bit to there's a rookie sort of mentality.
When you're like, I want to be the first guy through the door. I want to be the guy that's the preacher I want to do the thing. The really, really serious guy is the guy who's this, you know, the assistant team leader of the team leader, who has the most experience in pulling himself out of it. He may not get the so-called action, which is kind of what everybody that is the Super Bowl.
But what he does have is situational awareness of everything and he's sending in guys, that makes him a force multiplier to be able to manipulate He's got now seven guns in the fight and he's just sending each gun in each. One of these guys is just doing a very small piece of the pie and he's got to see it all. Yeah. I mean whatever we trained it. I mean yeah. It was way easier to be first. Got through the door because you just listen to what you're told. You're just automatic.
And whenever the rep came up to like, all right, you're going to drive the train this time. I will be like, I knew these guys are my friends and I was like, nervous. Well I'm not, I don't know if I'm ready to do that. It's way harder. And and you're the one who's you're assuming responsibility, that's the burden of command. I mean, it's just the nature. It doesn't matter whether you're doing law enforcement or military clears.
You're the guy that's going to have to send people to do the thing and they're going to do what you say. You've got to be really good, you got to be on point and he's just he's ice cold when he's running through the stuff. It's so good to watch. Like I said, it's really reassuring. All right. Are you still rolling some video here? Yeah. So, they've gone through most of the first floor. It looks like, and now they're hitting probably what looks like their first door that leads.
Leads upstairs. So during that time, they're hearing a lot of the effects. They finally heard the gunshots and what they did is they there's to instincts the guys that are clearing rooms are looking to clear rooms because once you get into the track of doing that, that's what they're going to do. They want to just you know keep doing that methodical thing because that's what feels good.
That's the repetition and and this officer Engelbert bike breaks them out of that and he was like setting them up the stairs. And so everybody starts like, they're like, oh yeah. And he's literally, he's the guy in the back, sending everybody forward. Letting him know where they need to be, which is upstairs, engaging the threat. And then what we'll see. Are we still rolling through it? Can you just clarify something because you both probably know something about this?
That most people don't what instigated the gunfire is that? The first set of officers coming upon her, or would she this is spectacular Library. I believe what she did is she was shooting through the window to be able to Port the window because she was setting up to Ambush. Anybody coming over that she was setting up an OverWatch position got it. Okay.
So when she God, that that window was open and she is basically has gone and basically try to set up so that she can hit responders which is a pretty heads-up move. And really, really gross. Yeah. Thank God, that guy's they were thrown around because I heard one call out that he was reloading. Interesting. Yeah, I heard reloading. And at somebody asked me, like, do you think they were saying
she's reloading? So, we got to go now and I was like, no, you call out reloading to give everybody awareness that. You're, I need somebody on my shoulder right now so I can get back up in the fight. So they might have been gunfight Don't know. That's, that's an interesting point. And I don't think we've seen enough that they're they're going to be exploiting the scene for a while we'll talk about why
the FBI took the manifesto. But, you know, the the stuff that we can see on the body cam as it is, it looked like she had poured the window that she had broken out. I guess that could have been from from somebody shooting at her and her not being hit yet possibility. That being said, they get up the stairwell and what you'll see is somebody makes a really heads up call because exchanging gunfire with a handgun. Most guys are using iron Sites.
Their accuracy. Particularly in this scenario is going to be low at 15 plus yards and that shot. What do you think that was maybe 20. Yep. Yeah problems we had is what we're looking at body cams, we don't have really good perspective but the depth of it you're looking at probably a 60 or 75 foot shot for most people with a handgun. That is not a a fast, you know. Direct engagement distance where they're going to be high confidence hits, doesn't mean
that it can't be done. I feel very comfortable shooting at that distance, but I shoot a red dot and if you're not shooting a red dot pistol, your point of aim, your point of impact is going to be like your front sight is covering a big, big distance. So only people that are Bullseye shooters that are really good at shooting that distance and then you got to add the fact that there might be around, is coming
back at you. Like it's not a handgun distance for most people, especially not for most local like law enforcement, the dudes, that train at the highest level, maybe that are in the military. And are doing these kind of things, and that's their engagement distance.
But for most people, once you get outside of that 15 yards, that's a pretty comfortable rifle distance, going and most law enforcement distances are, you know, 15 yards is rifle all the way out to about a hundred and then they don't really get much longer than that. For most law enforcement rifle engagements in this country. I'm sure you guys trained the same way when you're doing Squad. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's a bill with a range of 50. That's the qual.
The koalas 50, you're not very often even going beyond that. But yeah, you own Five yards, especially with an optic, and this guy's optic. That's easy day. Yeah. So so rectangle, bird. In this case, he's running up with. I don't I didn't see the make on the rifle, but he's carrying a Vortex. Razor you could tell by the color of it, he's got a throw lever which is smart, there's
different ones you can use. I use a breakaway version of that but a similar I think I have the same exact thing on top of my my Bureau rifle. So this is a really, really good setup what it does. And if you don't know guns, the, it's a 12-6. So that means 1 means no, magnification is Just the same power that you normally see and there's a Crosshair in there with a little dot that you could turn on. I don't know if I saw him activate it, it doesn't matter at all.
He didn't need it for that sort of environment. But then you have the ability to flip it up to 6 and that gives you 6 x magnification for what you're looking at. So you're 25-yard shot looks like it's six times closer which makes things pretty easy to deal with and I've had you know sub 2 inch groups one and a half inch groups at 200 yards.
Five round groups with that exact same setup that he's Running with that optic on top of it, you know, benched obviously like throwing it down on the ground and putting a backpack or something. But you can get very, very precise from a long way out with a decent rifle and I'm sure it was a decent rifle. So he goes into that 20-something yard encounter and he's able to do a very, very Precision shot as opposed to like a red dot. Like a, like a name Point like most people do to em away.
Means it's covering. What is it covering? Like maybe a 6 inch is that right? No, no. It's the opposite of that two inches at 100. It will cover one inch at 50. So probably like a half inch. So even that the to MOA dot is covering a very small area on that, but he's got the ability of being able to look very, very closely at what he's getting into and taking that shot. Which is why somebody else.
I think we developed we debated, that's pretty sure the backwards hat guy says lvp push LV push which is that means that guy you know that guy's a tackleberry to Because I'm pretty sure he had a red dot. He in the fog of War went to, like I'm a gun nut and recognize that another guy had the tool that they needed to optimize the situation and said it again and back to, we're gonna quarterback the situation.
I don't need to be throwing this round when this guy has the way to end, this fight right away and looked him up and he did. And so you see, you see, Rex basically run through the hall. Bypass a half dozen guys, Get himself into a, you know, a angle, where he's going to come around the corner, addresses, the threat right away, and sends rounds that way with the, with this optic on the rifle. Even if you did, I don't even know if he had boosted 26, I run Hmong.
So the way I run mine and this is, I think the most optimal scenario. I've tried it. I've tried all the scenarios and all the different object combinations, but I run a LV p 0 on the top. And on top of that, I have an arm are Which is a little red dot and so I can do anything inside a 50 or anything. That's really quick and close. I've got a, you know, about a two-inch mechanical offset. So I'm two inches high.
The dot is going to be, you know, if I may be the dot is here, I'm going to hit here kind of thing, you know, just a little bit. I'm going to my dad's going to be high of my shot indoors, but when it comes to a longer shot, you know, and 20 is not long, but it might be the right move. When you're running up there, you can literally just jump down and you've got 6 x magnification.
You've got a very precise shot. Great for, you know, hostage scenarios, I've seen a law enforcement officer, I think it was in Phoenix who addressed a subject that was holding a gun to a baby like a one-year-old and it was his own baby. That was the other wild thing but this happened maybe two months back. I'm sorry, two years back and the officer has the same exact setup. He braces it on the edge of the car, he literally gets out.
Racks. The round jumps up, sees the threat, is that there is a gun to the baby's head and he drops the guy with head shots because he has that confidence at 75 yards, even though he's pulled back far in the fight. That's an easy shot from that distance. It's just it's a really powerful tool and like I said, it shows that he thought about this scenario.
Well, before it ever came up, he knew that he was going to have the right tool, I'd be really curious to know if he spent his own money on it or for Department gave it to him. Either way, it's a heads-up move to be able to put that thing into the fight. Phil, what do we what we looking at the end of this thing coming up? Yeah, we are, so he's obviously behind the other officers is probably about a half dozen officers who beat him to the
second floor. But as Steve alluded to and I don't know if it's now earlier folks and re-watch the video, somebody's Callin for the Be right. So he's gonna seize. The officers is coming around the corner. He's walking down the hall. They hear the gunshots. He's heading into what looks like like the library area. He's slicing the pie and now he's the target. Bang bang. Bang instantaneously. As soon as he lined to sightsee took the shot. Well, how many shots did he
take? Like, three, two or three of them? Something that affect the other thing that's really heads. Up is then, he goes down off gun and the two officers that are with. These are like your hands guys, you're responding officers are running up and they were covering down, you know, they
Threat balls. So this is this and they don't know who this woman is in or anything about her what she's got going on, but then you see the two officers basically come in and approach, really, really quick gun on, you know, start giving commands and things like that. And they ended up shooting again because it looks like sounds like she had her hand either on the weapon or wasn't releasing the weapon. And they got to do what they got to do up that that close. But just just textbook for an
awful situation. Because aggression wins the day in that scenario, I think every single time, that's, it's pushing it to do. Ooh, something I used to actually encourage that during emergency medicine, it's like, what is your job? Your job is to do something and doing. Doing some action is better than freezing and trying to figure out what the right action is like good enough, in this case and they just stablish momentum.
I mean, because even if you make the wrong call, you have enough momentum that you can overcome that, it's that instinct to just freeze. And then you have paralysis by analysis and that's how you wind up with Uvalde. Were you have these dozens of guys in the hallway? There? Sitting there. What are we doing? What are we doing? Yeah, people always forget what the word inertia is about, right? But it's bodies at rest tends to stay at rest and Bodies in Motion.
Tend to stay in motion and these guys create that first motion starting from yelling. Let's go and starting from getting the keys. I mean, everything about this is heads up getting the keys pushing through sending guys,
through the door. It's like he's setting the first, even the first door, he's setting the precedent that we're not stacking up like and they don't have to know the same tactics, it's like It in there and the guys I've got it and then everybody starts flowing and you see him flown into rooms and flowing out. And then moving and the guy who's seeing it all is in the back, as it should be. He's the last guy to get to the fight but he also has the tool that's going to end it right then.
So he and he doesn't hesitate the minute. He's called up boom. Somebody else has the wherewithal to do it. I mean, everything about this is just like It's the opposite of Uvalde.
And, every single time I saw one of those silly memes, it's like the big muscle guy that's like talking to the, like, the blonde, girl, that's like in the corner of the of a party or something and it's like, you know, it's Nashville PD and he's the big muscular guy, he's like, yelling whatever he's saying at the party and then there's like you've all these like and you hate to put that on them because I know they were probably trying to do the best that they could do right there.
But they just you know, what do they always say that? You know, you expose your ass when you do stuff. Like just so badly, everyone knows and it's become a punch line and It's these will be shown side by side for a long, long time. I think in both academies, and in tactical schools, and an alert trainings for law enforcement officers, all over the country. This is how you don't do it. You don't freeze up and you don't wait, you get in there and you stopped it because you can
stop it right away. You don't let it happen any further. And these guys did it, they did the work. Yep. He did. And their Heroes, all of them. So we had said, I have Mike's portion to I think it's worth going through that real quick because, yeah, sure, describe it. Yeah. Average person might have some questions about, you know, why he did what he did. So let's take a look. All right, so and all right, you hear what Mike did?
But we're going to see it from his body camera face is blurred out here. They're chatting commands. They don't necessarily know what her condition is. Rex, is kind of like third person walking up there, pushing weapons away and then it goes to Black. So now we're on Michael Clauses, body cam footage, He goes right up the stairs right away. I'm not sure what part of the building he's in but it's pretty clear. It's clear right away. He's going to the second floor,
that makes sense. So here's the thing they're addressing on multiple floors. Like if you're on a different floor. Okay. That whatever is look he had for, he's like one of four officers. The door was locked. They're going back downstairs. Got it interesting. They find it open door on the first floor. Now, this probably the six officers at this point. Flute. Looks like there may be a new gymnasium. That's right. Yeah, now the whole Cavalry here. There's like almost a dozen guys.
Okay, now they're they've caught up with Rex's team in that kind of central location of looks like, you know, check in with a secretary. Lots of lock doors, check with checking bathrooms. Same first floor. Fire alarm, still going off the pausing for a moment here but I think it's pretty clear. They're about to go upstairs. Yep. So up the stairwell. Mike's got 23, got officers in front of him, he's pushing through. Okay, now they're saying shots
fired. So, this will be the point where they're kind of pinned out waiting for Rex to show up. So, they're kind of walking through that door. That's everybody's seen. I said library before. I'm not sure what it is, but it's kind of like an upstairs rotunda and here's wrecks. On the Left Bank, Michael's got a handgun. He kind of walks up. S at he shoots four times, he shout, yeah, he's moving. Stop moving. He's coming in from. There's another officer that came in from the left and the
two of them. Basically, moved kind of pinched in, which put the rifle out of play because they were down range data point. Yep. And you can see the broken glass Ass. He's saying suspect down suspect down. So I think from, you know, the general population standpoint like their question would be hey Rex is already shot this person? Why did Mike have to shoot him? Well you don't you don't know.
I mean it's so they you can tell from the officer who has the shotgun who again good on him and got everybody else. He's the only one giving his giving verbal commands for The Temptations. Going to be for like half a dozen dudes, to be screaming different things at the same time and that point you have to assume the threat is going to be
alive and responsive. But there's a so he was staying get your hand away from the weapon and at that point you have to you have to take that shot because it's still threats until you Confirm that, that's no longer a threat. I think that's absolutely. So there's there's two ways to look at this thing. Unlike what, Joe Biden has said about the way that the 556 of the two to three round hits the body, it doesn't immediately enter and blow up into a
demolition derby. It doesn't take long out of the body. When you hit somebody with a 9-millimeter, this is not the way Firearms work. It's a kinetic, you know action. It is a projectile that enters the body, it creates a permanent and then also a temporary wound cavity. The permanent cavity is usually the size of the round and whatever the whatever it opens up to the The the temporary cavity is where like when things hit they actually cause an expansion.
This can cause you know, blood vessels to burst and things like that. But but absent, what we would call wounds incompatible with life. That means like an open head. That means you know, chest cavity, that's completely exposed. And like there's, you know, the hearts ripped out there are things that you can see. And and sometimes do happen in big shootings, where you will know that the wound is now
incompatible with life. There's ways that Medics and I've done this as a paramedic to so I can speak this. There are, there are Categories of wounds that you can walk up and if there is like brain material on the ground, you can usually diagnose that as being dead as deceased, that is not
the case. Every state has its own rules on it and Texas. I actually had to take people unless I saw that, you know, decapitation at an angular an accident scene, you could go, okay, I can declare this person dead, otherwise you gotta wait for the corner show up. You got to wait for a medical examiner or you've got to wait for a physician in an ER, to declare them dead. So the officers are approaching somebody 556 Grounds make very, very small holes. Have you ever had to treat a 556
wound by the way? See, no, no. I have a very, very small can disappear in the body. Literally, you can go looking for them, and there's not always an exit wound. So you can literally see, like, it's like a pinhole. It's a 22 caliber hole that will enter the scale. Say it looks like a 22, right? Okay. Well, that's how it enters, it, it looks like nothing. I've had to, like, pull them
apart to find them. If people have like, fat on their skin, or they have like body hair, it easily can disappear, and it doesn't always bleed. So you can have 22 wound that like, you know, five or six of them and in like, they won't appear unless they actually blow something out. So, unless there's a significant exit wound in blood in the back end. So people were speculating, oh, this is a fake video. This is a training scenario that it is. Nope, blood will have no blood everywhere.
You watch too much Hollywood movies, that's not the way people shot. People can be, you know, can be fatally wounded at a guy that was law. Enforcement confrontation shot right in the chest and fatally wounded one shot. Couldn't even find The Bullet Hole. It was very very difficult to find. It was hidden underneath the left nipple and he had his heart completely destroyed with the shots. It was a One-Shot kill.
We couldn't tell, we worked him. Like he was alive for 35 minutes and when we got there they actually opened up his chest and found that he had bled out into his own chest cavity, no exit wound so no blood spilled at all. But the guy probably lost a liter and a half of blood inside of his lungs and, and, you know, displaced as long as it with a, you know, with that bleeding. So these things can happen in
ways that you wouldn't see. So the officer has to approach And assume that this person without wounding compatible with life is still alive. And a lot of times, people still
move. Like, it's not the movies, where somebody's pulling a ripcord behind you, and you fly backwards like an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie like, The Last Action Hero. Realistically speaking, the problem that most special operations troops had with the 556 round, which is why things like 300 Blackout and why 762 by 39 and you know 762 by 51 which is the 7/16 Nato round why those things were being used in. Foundation, as well as people would get hit with these rousing.
You get back up all the time especially if they were hopped up on any kind of drugs. So officers know, they've been trained. They've been told the threat. It's not to shoot to kill. It's to shoot to stop the threat, and that means they have to be stopped moving. They don't have a hand on a weapon either obeying commands at this point and being a docile or they are not obeying commands, you have to treat them as though they're still hostile
until they prove otherwise. So I think these guys did a great job on every single part of it and the guys having the wherewithal to to push forward which It's needed to happen. There's a you know, they kept that momentum going, which started early and it never stopped, until they basically had this person incapacitated and in custody and or deceased it's just, I mean, it's textbook stuff.
Every, every level of it is the way you do a, an active shooter, you just push, they have to. And these guys did a great job. Yeah, any other concerns about what we saw there? Phil. No, I was playing Devil's Advocate just in case we get any hate mail, but I think it my my devil's advocate, you know argument, they're really elicited what we needed to hear. So thanks for filling that in
no, great job by all. So we're kind of were winging it in some ways as you probably can tell from the technology because we're not sitting in our normal space, I'm sitting in a hotel room and I'm on the road, which is I'm very grateful for Steve joining me. I'm gonna this is the reason why I actually had Steve join me. Here's something to kind of leave on a light note, for the weekend. The FBI is now doing finger painting, right? And we have Miss Lippy, I've always said that the, the
assistant was her name. She's the executive assistant director of Human Resources branch, which is Jennifer Moore. This is the that suspended you and I is a lot like Miss Lippy from Billy Madison, who is famously, the kindergarten teacher in the Adam Sandler movie. That is teaching kindergarten when he has to go back as a grown-up and he steps into the, you know, he steps into the preschool or the kindergarten class rather.
All the kids are at recess because he was want to play with them and she's like putting glue on her face. She's putting and she's eating, it may be and she's got a macaroni necklace and she's dancing and doing this like Reiki thing and she's a weirdo. But she's, you know, kind of what I remember kindergarten teachers being kind of silly.
She actually is, you know, mildly pretty and she's sweet and she has kind of a sick sweet way of talking about things and she talks about puppies and she does kindergarten stuff. My kindergarten teachers name was mrs. Brazil and she actually looked like Miss Lippy, she wasn't crazy. She was just a really, really nice lady. So unlike the, the really really
nice lady. This is the kooky Dukes version of the nice lady and that's who's running the FBI security Division and the human resource department. Aunt, and the Training Division, who recently canceled a town hall meeting, right? That was scheduled for all employees to be able to see what's going on a human resources. And instead had this thing sent out that you're going to read to us that I haven't read yet. You said you wanted the cold response to it.
I'm ready for it whenever you're ready. All right, so just so sexy. My favorite peeps over there. Who investigated my security clearance and your security clearance to see if we were worthy of having it. So I have a I have a mole there and I was I received this.
So I'll read it to you to promote Health and Wellness in the workplace the security division employee assistance program, team invites all-sec, D Personnel at Patriots, Plaza to to participate in the following events being hosted in the months of April and May and then it lists seven events that are going to be happening 12:30 to 1:00 p.m. on these states that are in april-may the the four types of events are as follows.
One National walking day, meet at the entrance, the Patriots plus a 2, for a short walk that will help you to get to know your colleagues and return to your work with a renewed sense of productivity. Number two office, yoga meet at Patriots, Plaza, to room 405 A and B to be led in a series of simple movements to strengthen, and stretch the whole body while seated in a chair. No, prior yoga experience, or a
mat is required. So you don't even have to get out of your chair, it's chair, yoga, share, yoga number three, lunch and coloring meet at Patriots, Plaza, two rooms, four or five. A and B for a fun series of coloring sessions during lunch. I'll let you see your colleagues artistic sides. All supplies will be provided. Number four, National creativity, day, meet at Patriots, Plaza, two rooms for a 5A for a painting class. That will help you to get to know your colleagues and Unleash
Your creativity. All supplies will be provided but space is limited. This is your thoughts on. This is paid FBI employees on duty doing this correct. Yes. 12:30 to 1:00 p.m. Wednesday, a Thursday Wednesday, a Thursday Wednesday, Thursday Wednesday. So you're all your FBI that we all pay for is going to do, painting and chair, yoga and holding hands, walking. And, what's the last one coloring books? Coloring books. So I would say that. This is a fake except one. I know the FBI.
So I know it's real but to fill shared something really awful about it. The other day. This is not the only time this has ever happened. This isn't even a new idea in the bureau Phil when you were working. What was the name of the headquarters unit you work for? I wasn't surg and maybe I don't want to get too specific, but circumstance for I'll get real specific on. They it was it was a unit that did surveillance training and added resources.
Versus so yeah, there was a unit Chief there who'd been the boss for quite a while and she thought it was a great idea to put coloring books out to color away the stress and the three agents in the building. Got a great kick out of this, but they were the only ones who found it. Amusing, everyone else thought it was great and there was a box of crayons like the Crayola 64 every color and there were, I opened them to check. And there were actual people who
had colored in those things. Yeah, that was the next question I had. So thanks, so you're FBI. Employees are spending their time on duty to just relieve the stress of being a highly paid. Under worked government employee by coloring or finger painting. Is there going to be any glue eating? Do you think like real Miss Lippy style? Or is that going to be next year after the weaponization committee starts pulling people
in for testimonies? Yeah, I think that the, the questions that that should be raised at that town hall should Should truncate any ever decide to follow through on it? That think that, you know, that needs to be there? What other activities can we have? Can we can we have Jenga or maybe cornhole? I mean I know you have to get out of your chair to do that but one whole office corn hole in your chair Ask me these are not
serious people. They are charged with supposedly monitoring whether or not folks like you and I are worthy of having top security clearances to do the work of the American people and apparently that's too stressful for them. They need to veg out and see if that, you know, that color is orange red or red orange. What would be the better shade? Hey, Steve. You always have a very precise way of making me discuss it with stuff. Where can people find this this letter?
Which I assume you're going to make public. And where can they follow you? You can find both on Twitter at real Steve friend. I will post on troops as well, and real underscore Steve front. Making it complicated our human Rob, are you still Shadow band? It says no. But you know I had a good day. I pick up one or two followers so I don't know if that the my resources is accurate. What are you search band? I don't think so.
I mean I always go to the same resource that it says I'm not but the same time like I look at the analytics and I'm pretty sure that the only time I get into four digits of a views is when you share my stuff, I'll keep doing it. That's what we're gonna do. I never see your stuff. I'll cross my feet. So you got to keep telling me. That's why you come on here. Thanks for doing what you're doing. Thanks for thanks for sharing
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In speaking of Monday's we're going to have probably a two-part interview again with our friend, Kurt Sue's back, he's an FBI whistleblower, he is a retired FBI supervisory, special agent and he is an attorney that works in the Cyber sphere and he wrote the FBI whistleblower handbook. He gives me. First of all, he makes me laugh and so We had a pretty good fun conversation laughing but also probably like the least hopeful interview that I've done about
the FBI. I think you'll understand why if you watch it. So tune in on Monday it'll be available very early. If you are an early riser on the east coast and you can download it and listen to it throughout the week. We might be breaking it up into two days only because I think I'm going to be moving on Wednesday, as well. So we'll give you its pretty long to it's almost 3 hours again.
So, once again, thanks so much for joining us today, and we will see you again after the weekend for our interview, with Kurtz use DAC. Thanks so much. Y'all. Thanks for listening to the Kyle Serafin. Show be sure to follow him on Twitter and Truth at Kyle seraphin. Y'all. Thanks for listening to the Kyle Serafin. Show be sure to follow him on Twitter and Truth at Kyle seraphin.