Take a look behind the curtain with a real whistleblower, an American patriot. Prepare to embrace the uncomfortable truth, because this program has no time for comforting lies. Here is civil liberties enthusiast, Second Amendment defender, and recovering FBI agent Kyle Serif. Well hello my friends and welcome to the Kyle Serafin Show. Today is Friday, it's March the 1st.
And yes, we do have some new intro music coming for you on Monday, but we didn't have it today because we are trying to get something done that we don't normally do. Today's going to be kind of a wild live show. I want to start off with some sponsors and then we're going to bring on Brianna Morella who's on scene at the courthouse where Steve Baker was just recently transported over or is in the
process of getting over there. We've got Steve friend, our buddy on. So a full suspendables cast and this is going to be an interesting live show because it's a one man show on this end. Just trying to be coordinated. Also be patient with us. We may have a little bit of echo. We are trying to figure that out and we'll get that done in just one second. So let's knock these things out. Number one, I want to say thanks to my buddies over at Catholic Vote.
You guys know how to get the loop, go ahead and check them out, catholicvote.org. Follow them on social media at Catholic Vote. Those are the two places to do it. And you can always check out the Loop. If you don't want to subscribe, even though you should, you should definitely subscribe. If you're not going to just go to catholicvote.org/loop, we're going to say thanks to the folks over at 4 Patriots Guys.
Look, we got a journalist being arrested right now for literally doing the right thing and just reporting on a on a on a story that was an active news story at the time. He's now been doing some of the most investigative reporting, and he's going to be processed in the federal prison system right now. They're going to probably release him, but we don't know yet. So in any case, you guys don't know how crazy you could get.
And if you want to hedge against that, go to fourpatriots.com/kyle, the number four patriots.com/kyle. You got two choices in line, prepare or repair. Our buddy Steve Baker has been preparing for this for quite a while and hopefully the DOJ can be repaired because they suck by taking this man in to custody. On a day like this, it's going to be a dark day, but you guys, you want to prepare yourself against any kind of crazy things that are coming down.
Give yourself some room with some calories that you've got stored away in your house again for patriots.com/kyle. And then lastly, we're going to go ahead and say right up front here, contingency, medical. You never know what things are coming your way and you never know if you're going to need. They have antibiotics, antiemetics, things that stop
the nausea, the vomiting. If you're going to have things that are anti diarrheals, you can get all those things and you can hold on to them in your own little convenient pack just like this one right here. You can travel with them. Our buddy Brianna's actually on the road and she probably, if she was getting sick she would want to have some antibiotics. Guys go to contingencymedical.com. Again, contingencymedical.com. The promo code is Kyle.
It saves you about 10 bucks on the overall kit. It's the pharmacy plus kit. And what does it do? It allows you to keep that pharmacy in your pocket so you're not running around trying to figure that out. If you're on the road, if you're in a survival situation, or if you just feel like crap and you don't want to go to a doctor, you've already gone to the doctor. That's what contingency medical does. It puts the power back into your pocket. Again, contingencymedical.com promo code.
Kyle. All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's see if we can figure this thing out. Let me unmute our bodies. Let's see how many of these are. And Brianna, you're going to have to unmute your end as well. You've got like a little mute. No big deal. You got yourself right in the perfect spot. And let's see. OK. I hear that work. Yeah, we've got a little echo, but that's OK. I think we're going to go.
Tell me. You were out there on the scene earlier today and you saw them take Steve, let's talk about what you saw when you were outside the FBI field office. Now you're at the court. Yeah. Thanks for having me, Kyle. Around 7:00 AM this morning, he turned himself in at the Central time at the FBI Dallas field office. It was very calm. As you guys know, there's protective custody. What was the agency? Guitar. Kyle, you you called it. Yeah. Federal Protective Services. Yep.
They were outside. The two of their officers were outside. They took custody of him from brought him in. Sadly, he had to take off his belt. He'd become dressed up. He had to take off his belt to shoot laces before I took him into custody. But he was. In good spirits, he's excited to to have him stay in court because he knows he did nothing wrong. He's got a personal braised legal counsel and he knows
what's going on right now. It's going to really push over the first time that he knows that he's going to make now. It's just really upsetting to have to do this, unfortunately.
Because. He's such a great human being and he is just loves covering these JSX stories mainly to expose the truth in the in the DO JS lies and that is just so critical So it's unfortunate now that we're here in this situation but I have to say Steve he's the man who could actually take on the federal government I think when this because they're going against him with really nothing. They're upset about his reporting.
We all know that he's been dropping bombshell reports and now here he is facing you know the arrested and we're not wondering what the charges are we're being they are potentially dismissed and Peter charges. So we're going to find out in just a couple of hours here at the courthouse. We're just waiting. Let me do this. First of all, the video looks great. The audio keeps coming in crazy and then people are talking about the ghost in the machine on the back end.
So here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to drop you off this. I'm going to put your picture up on the screen. We're going to show your your Twitter account because people can follow you there and you're obviously updating. I'm going to bring you on an audio in just one second here. I'm going to get Steve to talk for a moment while I set that up. Steve, I know we were talking to
Baker in the background. Let's, let's kind of discuss some of the things that we're talking about over the last couple days. Maybe Baker Ridge is a worthwhile topic. Well, we were actually coming from a place of experience having bring brought people under arrest into custody to sort of give them an idea for
what to expect. So he actually published the fact that the FBI or the federal prosecutor, whoever had contacted his attorney, said you have to surrender 7:00 AM Friday morning, make sure to wear sandals and shorts. And immediately I told him not to do that because he's going to be placed in some sort of cold cell holding facility. They're just doing it to embarrass him, to make him uncomfortable. He can go there looking like a professional journalist as he is, not like an unemployed gamer
who lives in his mom's basement. So proudly and loudly he went there wearing his suit and his tie and his suspendables, lapel pin and his shoes. But they're still making him go through the indignity of taking his belt away, taking his shoelaces away. It's it's this process that they're going to lean on. They're going to say something. The effect of, well, it's safety. We have to follow protocols, but it's like this guy is not violent and you allow him to surrender, Why can't he keep his
shoelaces? It's ridiculous. Yeah, it's just an indignity that's 100% that and they'd love the picture of that. Let me let me see if we can. We're going to add Brianna back in right now. I'm going to just give her a quick buzz on on our signal chat so you guys will hear us dialing her out. No other way to do it on this particular doing it live game and hopefully this is much cleaner. We're dancing between multiple different, multiple different programs. Folks. Oh, she said. Try again.
There we go. We're going to keep trying. We're going to get her. There she is. There we go. Oh my gosh, the feedback was bad. On that one, I believe it. Can you hear us OK now? I can. Thank you, Kyle. Yeah, that's much better. All right. So what about that? You said you had a guy with a sign and I actually didn't get a chance to download that video, which we might be able to do in a minute. There were some people that showed up for Steve's sort of self surrender.
Is that correct? Yeah, there was a sweet man. His name was Dan and he actually came to just show his support. He is a Steve Baker fan. He loves his work and he's outraged that Steve is being placed under arrest and he he wanted to meet Steve first hand and tell Steve that he thinks he's a he's a national hero. He was really upset. He he lives a little further out of the city so he did travel to get here. But it was sweet.
It was a sweet moment because Steve appreciated it and and yeah, it was just, it was a very kind, a kind sign that he had up just calling out the police state that we're now living in and just showing his support. So it was very kind. His name was Dan, a very nice man. His name was Dan. I think I've actually got a picture of that way. I'm going to throw that on the screen. So this was the scene, couple,
couple of things we saw. Number one, you were out there before like 0, zero, dark, 30 ish lights were all on. And so folks you are seeing on the screen right now, just a picture of the FBI field office in Dallas outside the main gate. And then this gentleman looks like he put up that sign. It was like a whiteboard, right. And it had like a police state with a mark through it. You had a a signal.
What was the other one, A deep state with a mark through it, and then talking about Steve Baker being a patriot, which we know we know is the case. How did Steve look as he got out of the thing? You said he was wearing a suit. It looked like he had a suspendables pin from the picture he sent us earlier, which I've also. Oh, I have to look, I, I, I, I was too busy trying not to trip and fall, 'cause I wasn't looking down. But no, Steve was he to keep granting a suit.
And you know, it was interesting, too. They, they asked his attorneys for him to come in shorts and just like AT shirt and sandals, and he just didn't want to do that. He he wanted to come looking like a class act and a professional and so, you know he did dress up and and he he looked great.
He was, you know smiling and appreciative of everyone who showed up. And it was interesting because they made him take off his belt and shoelaces before he even came into the facility, which I thought was kind of strange, but. Yeah. Well, let me let me throw Steve Friend back here. So the two of us are going to kind of just give some background on that. The the thing that he entered,
actually, I've got a video. I'm going to play your video, if that's OK. So Brianna folks, if you guys want to follow her, it's, it's at Brianna Morello. She's on Twitter. She's on True Social. She's got the The Rumble channel, which we just showed up a second ago. She can definitely do that. Let me play a video that she took this morning showing Steve going into the guard shack. This is not the field office. This is the little guard shack. And I know, Steve, you're
familiar with this. So what kind of explain what people are seeing? But let's first just throw it on the screen so you can see what Steve Baker was into. So all we just saw was him basically giving us the, the two finger guns and he had to take his jacket off and hand it over
to his attorneys. It looks like, yeah, you want to talk about the guard shack and then what's going on behind there, just so people have awareness, it's just sort of external security outside the the general field office. Anytime someone goes to the FBI, you don't just, like, ring the bell and they let you in. I mean, some of some of the small resident agencies, small offices, that'll actually happen. But for the field office, like here, Dallas, you're going to go through a guard shack.
Those are outsourced security. They're they're contractors. They'll go through just almost like TSA. Have you put your pressure personal possessions through a metal detector. They'll scan you, they'll wand you, and then you'll be normally met by someone from the inside of the FBI who will escort you because it's a secure facility. I don't have a security clearance. I actually can't walk into the FBI just like Steve right now. So he would have to be escorted by an FBI employee with a
clearance. They would probably come meet him down there. I would imagine they probably just put handcuffs on him right there and immediately put him into a vehicle as opposed to walking him into the office. There was really no need for it. Well if they're going to fingerprint him and put him into the system and do the whole processing, they could have done that as well. So we don't know let. So Brianna, let me just ask you
this. You kind of talked to some of the folks you said there was Federal Protective Services that was hanging out in the parking lot. You get a chance to talk to those officers and what they were about. Yeah, briefly. They just told me that they just know that they have to be here and that they didn't really give me any other details. I wanted to kind of poke around and see if they're normally hanging out here. It didn't sound like it from when I was speaking with the officer, though.
The agent, he, he just was kind of like, hey, look, we're just here, we're just here for the Coles to be here. So he limited all the details, but it sounded like they're just here specifically for Steve. No, I think you're correct. So that's. Yeah, there wouldn't normally be Federal Protective Services sitting outside. It's got DHS markings, friend. What do you think That's crazy.
I'm insane that they would have called in extra guns to deal with Steve Baker who could self surrender because it's a nonviolent crime, allegedly that he committed misdemeanor offense. But they're going to call in extra guns because you never know, could get kind of spicy. You know there might be somebody out there with a sign that says free Steve Baker, which yeah, as as we can throw back up on the screen here. There it is. There's the sign. That's how spicy that that scene
looks. So you're not seeing it, Brianna. But we. I've got the picture you put up. There's a spicy with a little with a little blue hatchback in the background and this spicy whiteboard that is requiring two additional federal agents or federal officers to pop in there. Look, end of the day it might have been for crowd control. I don't. I don't. Never. Feds overdo everything. Would you agree with that, Steve? Yes. I mean, they'd rather have it, not need it than need it not have it.
And I understand it to a certain extent. But I think that this is along with the same narrative of the process, is the punishment we're gonna show overwhelming force. I've said since the beginning they could have actually psychologically tortured Steve and never brought charges and just always hung it over his head like Damocles Sword.
But they made a point of saying, yes, you're going to come in, you're we want you to come in in sandals and shorts, just to rub your nose into it, just in the fact that we know that you did nothing wrong and everyone knows you did nothing wrong, but we can. So this is all about continuing the narrative. But we're doing these things because we can, not because they're legal, but because we have the political will and you don't. Just to proceed on with this, Brianna, what is the, what is
the schedule looking like? What are we expecting? What are the Steve's attorneys? If you've got a chance to talk to them, what are they all kind of expecting for a timeline for today so people can kind of follow this on social media? Yeah, we're expecting him to make his first appearance in court today at 10:00 AM Central time. So Justin, in a little bit. He's expected to arrive at the federal courthouse, it looks like.
And so his attorney believes, and this is according to I believe, the DOJ telling him that they're not going to ask for bail, that they're going to release him. But my worries, and I guess Steve and Kyle, you guys can weigh in on this, but the fact that they're having him turn himself in on a Friday makes me extremely nervous.
We, we know we've seen these games before where they could sit there and say, oh, the Magistrate Judge isn't here today or or something and they could try to hold him over the weekends. I know that is something that a lot of people have kind of stressed could possibly happen. But Kyle, Steve, you would know better than than I would on that one. Steve, you've been to a lot of initial appearances. You want to talk about that?
Yes, that is actually my was my thought originally as well because the the magistrates are on a strict schedule. They could have him come in and have intake and he's technically the within the possession of the US Marshals Service now and then, oh, wouldn't you know, we had to cancel the hearing. We can't let you leave and reschedule. We're going to have to hold you over the weekend for Monday or Tuesday when we're going to have the next initial hearing.
The reason they had him surrender this morning early was because theoretically he has a hearing that's going to happen today. It could be delayed. It could be canceled. And there's also the the issue of when you get, when you surrender you have the opportunity to meet with a public defender to sort of like go through what the charges are and levied against you. He's obviously has attorneys that they're going to hopefully get that information ahead of time to be able to mount the
defense. The initial appearance when people don't understand this is always sort of a a chuckle line for me is they'll always be a report of well so and so pled not guilty. Well, obviously you have to plead not guilty. If you have a attorney who's worth his salt, you do not just immediately plead guilty on initial appearance, he's going to plead not guilty. Whatever it is, they're going to throw the charges at him.
And then hopefully, from their perspective, it's going to be so overwhelming that he's just going to take a plea. But Steve, God bless him, says he's not going to. Yeah, we don't. I mean, I don't think we would expect that ever. But generally speaking, even even the scumbags that are the MS13 garbage that are out there doing, you know, scumbaggery as a general rule, they're not going to do it either. Sometimes they get a little bit
more. I I've seen people kind of have that moment of realization where they're charged with a Ricoh murder and now they're in federal court and it's a different animal than what they've ever done when they got into a fight and went to county like that.
The federal court system is imposing and it's it has a different sort of gravity to it. It just like the federal prison system looks much different than people who are used to going to jail and not hanging out and and sort of you know, state charges. There's also a detention aspect at an initial hearing. So you have your initial hearing to read the charges against you and that's basically it. Then they make the decision about detention and tips. Typically in the federal system,
there's not a a bail issue. They either let you go or they hold you, and you can have that argument right then and there of the initial appearance. If it's a little more complicated, they'll set a date farther out, maybe a few weeks for your attorneys to prepare to make their arguments about your detention, not your guilt or innocence regarding the charges
against you. But if Steve's got any assurances that they're not going to argue for detention, it should just be a really quick process of the United States government against Steve Baker. Hear the charges against you, and then they will set the schedule for the next proceedings as they move on. Fair enough. That sounds all correct. Brianna, I don't want to keep you on the line for too long because I know you want to get in there and get yourself a seat.
Any kind of party thoughts as you're getting ready in there? Any other concerns or any other sort of observations you have as you're standing outside that courthouse? No, nothing as of yet. I just, I tell your audience to to keep Steve in your prayers because this is a lot of stress, especially for for a journalist to go through. It's meant to intimidate him and make him not want to do his reporting. He's got some great work coming
out in in an upcoming days. So this is, This is why we do what we do. And so he's very appreciative of that. He for those of you at home who are wondering how can you help Steve in any way. I spoke with him last night. He's just asking people just to support his work. That's the best way to do so.
So you can head over to his Twitter page and you could just simply just subscribe to his his journalism and that is all he needs for for you guys at home it's just TPC 4, the number 4 USA and that's his Twitter handle. So feel free to give him a follow and support his work through his website on there as well and he'd greatly appreciate
that. It's always good having three pros on Right now I've got Steve Baker's Blaze Media thing that was covered very recently, so I'm showing that on the screen for those of you who are watching. Again, his Twitter handle is TPC, that's TPC, the number four USA, very easy to remember. And Brianna, you also did a nice sit down with him that was streamed. Was that streamed on your rumble as well as Twitter, or was that just a Twitter interview? Yep, Twitter and Rumble,
correct. So it's on both platforms. So folks, if you want to follow that and check out, you guys sat down for what, 1520 minutes and got like a nice little chat? Or was it longer? I couldn't. Well, we went about 30 minutes because he had so much to say and so it was great. It was great. He got a little emotional at the end, but he's, you know, he was,
he was before we signed off. He was talking about how the only two people he cares about and their opinions on him are his two kids and he's very grateful for them and the support he has from them and so got kind of emotional towards the end. But it was a great interview to have with Steve. Fantastic. I'm going to make sure that we tag your Twitter handle in the the audio notes. For those of you who are listening after the fact, you guys can go out and find that
interview. And then for those of you who are seeing it on the screen, you're seeing right now where Brianna's Twitter account is. And then also we'll just throw this one more time up here so you guys can see the Rumble channel. But it's very easy to find. Type in the name and it will pop up and you will see this very iconic neon sign with the Brianna Morello show. So you guys can go and fall over there if you want to see that interview and others as well. All of us have been on there.
Steve and I have both been there. So we appreciate it. Thanks. Thanks for calling in with us, 'cause I I appreciate having some ground truth. I always like it when somebody's on the ground that gets to see what's really happening there. And then by all means, keep us updated. I'll be watching. I'll be watching the screen on our little chat on the side. Perfect. Kyle, Steve, I'll, I'll keep you guys updated on everything. Thanks so much. Be safe out there. Be warm. You look cold.
Thank you guys. Thank you all. Right, buddy. All right, folks. So that's kind of the quick story. That's the quick and dirty on it. You guys get a little taste of it. I'll put Steve back on the screen here. There you are, Mr. Friend. It's disheartening on a lot of levels. It's not something that we want to see. And I don't know, here's, here's, it's a, it's a let me throw this.
OK, go ahead. You know, about a year ago, I got a message on LinkedIn from this weird guy named Steve Baker. And he said, hey, I have this podcast. It's a little fledgling podcast. I'd love to talk to you. And I was new to talking to media and I thought, OK, I'll just talk to this guy named Steve. And we had a good chat. As you know, Steve is, he's a great conversationalist. And then I introduced him to you. And you had a great chat with him.
And then I got a call one day from through multiple channels that said, hey, Tucker Carlson's looking for someone to come on who's a victim of government weaponization pertaining to January 6th. Do you know anyone? And I thought, man, I know this guy, Steve Baker and gave his name over and that night he was on Tucker Carlson.
And then he continued to write and he got noticed by the Blaze and Glenn Beck and brought on. And I just you can't help but think that this, this challenge that's in front of him right now, the the serendipitous nature, if you will, the providential nature of our relationships to be able to support him. There's a reason that it happened that way, which is is is horrible and awful as it is.
We are making sure that a guy like Steve Baker is armed to the teeth with the maximum amount of support that the suspendables net worth they can give him. IA 100% agree that there is a providential sort of peace to all this. And you're the people that you touch. And the people that I touch, we don't know why, but they continue to be in the spotlight. They continue. We, we, Garrett and I were talking about this the other
day. We have so much visibility to so many things that have happened in the last couple years and there's no particular reason why that is. That's not the case for every FBI agent. That's not the case for for every person that works there or anyone in the DOJ or anyone in any particular government job, there's literally no explanation other than, and you and I didn't know each other, you know, but our skill sets align that I
think they're complimentary. It's the same story with Garrett. We're all bringing different sides to the same coin or bringing, you know, different strength to the same tripod, whatever you want to call it. And then all these these guys like Steve and all these people that have kind of entered our our our network, they're plugging in and they're adding value to the American people for knowledge. But they're also getting
strength. Because as we grow in in numbers and as we become aware of other stories, one you have to be a complete psychopath. If you think that you're 100% right all the time. If you walk around the world and you never have any self doubt which is the sort of the nature of our ex-girlfriend psychopathic. You know that that that utter confidence that everything I'm
doing is correct. And and we are constantly asking ourselves hey did we miss the the thread here like are we the did we mess this up and over and over we get a Steve Baker you know we get an Amy Nelson. We get these folks that pop in we get a Tracy beans they're saying no let me validate what
you're saying. Moreover and then here's more about it And you go of course of course and I feel like God it continues to kind of hand that to us as that that that piece of hope to be able to keep fighting through it. And then the fact that Steve wore the suspendables pin on the jacket today as his real like double barreled, you know, F you to the Bureau. What I hope it makes those people do is look at it 'cause it was an agent there that
that's not part of this case. I think we can probably agree on that. I don't know if Noya flew out for it, but probably not. But more likely, I doubt it. But you know, he is resting comfortably in his $800,000 house in Raleigh, NC, which he purchased in 2013. Hey Craig, do better job of Opsec. Brother, you should probably talk to the Wake County Property Management area to make sure that that's kept anonymous, since you're a secret agent now who probably deserves to lose
everything. Should wind up penniless and indigent and have his children disown him because he was a good German who just followed orders and put a man in a cage because he was a member of the press reporting on things that were inconvenient to your employer's narrative. That's 100% what's going on with the inconvenience factor. I actually have some some strange video. I didn't play this for you yet, so I wanted you to see it.
I actually just titled this Whoopi is retarded, but it's the same sort of sense of outrage that we're going to have. The same sense of of righteous indignation about this. But what's amazing is it actually on the other side the reason why we play some of these video clips. It's not because I want to play unhinged libs and look how crazy the NBC people are. Look how crazy CNN is. Or look how crazy the view is. What you have to be a fool if you're getting your information from them.
The reason that I do it because if you don't know what the other side is thinking and that people are considering, like Whoopi Goldberg is thought of as a reasonable figure by people that are not you and me. Like there are some like white wine sipping at 10:00 AM moms that must be hanging around with their kids in a daycare that are watching the view and thinking this is what real people talk about.
I have to assume that there's only one reason for them to be on TV. Somebody watches it and cares and then they can sell products based on it. So let me play this quick little clip of this it it has that same feeling of insanity and and we'll discuss it in one second. Like I said, it's news to you, so that's also really helpful for me, 'cause I like getting your cold reactions to stuff.
Well, the Supreme Court won't hear oral arguments until the end of April. Now I just, you know, just let's look at a scenario where the Supreme Court says, yes, he has that. He has all those rights. He is immune from everything. You know what Joe Biden could do since he is presently president. What? Whoa. He could throw every Republican in jail. I mean, he could. I mean, this is not a good thing. He can go. What this means is it's he could do anything. He could dismiss everybody's
debt. Yeah, you know, there's a whole bunch of great stuff that could happen. But let's let's really look at what this means. Yeah. So that. So they're basically kicking the can down the road, though they they're not taking up this case immediately. Right. So what's their motivation then? If they if we all know that we they can't do what you just said because of the extreme power that a president would have, what is their motivation for not doing it right away?
Unfortunately, some people are saying the motivation is that there are certain conservative justices that have been appointed by Trump that want help them. And because we know the end result is if this case is not resolved by the time of the election and he, God forbid, becomes the president of the United States poo poo. The the Justice Department policy is that you cannot indict nor put on trial a sitting president, right? That's as much as I can handle that Whoopi.
Fundamentally, not understanding one, the powers of the president to what and how that would even work. But the celebration kind of of weaponization and saying, well, if you want to push back and have the Supreme Court make a decision that says that the executive immunity exists and that there is a qualified immunity when you work in a job.
And look, you don't have to like Donald Trump to know that the president does have certain authorities to do things in the office and that if it's part of the scope of his job, he's allowed to do it. That's what they're deciding. It's not nearly as much as you can throw everyone in jail and then and then you get a high five from your friends and you can never be prosecuted. That's not what they're talking
about. But anyway, the simplicity of these minds and then the celebration thereof, and listen to the audience. The audience clapped. Like, how great is this? Look at this amazing thought we just had the the Whoopi moment where she just has that, like, ooze over her. She's like, oh, the power is one of the most disturbing things, especially because she's got like that warlord hairstyle going on there. What what has happened to these people?
And look, if they are playing to an audience of the worst people in America, liberal white women who have no fundamental understandings of basic civics and are completely emotionally driven, and they just want to do things that feel good and feel right, and that ought to be the way things are. And that's just not the way that a alleged of, Garrett likes to say the alleged land of the free operates.
Any free and fair Republic, you're not going to be able to jail your political opponents for things that they policies that they're arguing for. But that's the way they see it, because this is no longer a country that operates under the rule of law. It is a political will driven country. We're going to just do things and we're going to challenge you to step up and and and push back against it. And they have found the other
side wanting. Well, the other side, our side has been weighed, measured and found wanting. We just sit here and take it and then and Stew about it and think you know what next time we're just going to vote harder.
There's never any action in in fact the people that we put in position theoretically who are our allies agree with what's going on. They've let the the the continuing resolutions that they're they're continuing to put out in Congress right now this is how you have to look at it. The Republicans in Congress view what's going on to Steve Baker or to Donald Trump or to Mark Houck and they think wow look at that weaponization we that's preferable to allow that to continue than a temporary
government shutdown. Did you survive Presidents Day weekend? I know I did.
Did we all survive that. But the Republicans who are theoretically supposed to be our allies think that what's going on to Steve Baker right now is actually a more optimal outcome than having the courage of their conditions and saying we're going to shut this thing down or we're going to defund what's going on because that's the power the American people gave us and they refuse to do it because they're cowards, All of
them. Do you know what I didn't see in that parking lot where Baker was turning himself in? Any of the so-called Republican, any of the conservative American lawmakers that are federal representatives. I didn't see any state representatives there. I didn't see anybody there. And and he's an employee of the Blaze which is a a major organization in Dallas, TX and Dallas is not an inconvenient place there.
There are plenty of Republicans that are based out of Dallas that live in the greater area that it wouldn't be a difficult drive and like it's and even just for your own self purposes. Like how do you not show up there and be like this is my this man is my constituent putting your arm around him and say I'm here to support him even as a political stunt. It's easy to do and they won't do it because it's toxic to
them. They would rather suffer while it's sufferable and it's very sufferable. If you're a person who lives in Washington, DC in a brownstone, you're not seeing what's going on every day. You're not a person who's facing 11 years in prison because he defended his son from a Planned Parenthood employee who accosted him. You're not experiencing inflation like we are in my in my house. I have to deal with. We need to keep the government open to fund Ukraine. We need, we need to spend money
we don't have. When my family of four, with the with the children that are in grammar school, is dropping $500 a week on groceries, do you think guys like Mitch McConnell care about that? They don't care about any of us. Nobody in an elected position within the federal apparatus cares. None of them. And I'm, I'm done with it. I'm done with advocating for it. I'm done with trying to negotiate. I'm done with trying to ask them.
I'm at the point right now where I'm advocating actually saying to people stay home in November, do not vote for any of them. Let's just send this thing over the Cliff. I would rather have the Band-Aid ripped off and deal with the managed decline. Because if you vote for a Republican, any Republican at all, you're voting for people who continue to fund the weaponization that is putting Steve Baker in prison. So we might as well just cast it
off and have it be done. I don't care what their liberty score is. I don't care what their vote history is. I don't care what they've said on TV. They're all feckless, useless, treasonous, communist cowards, and we should not give them our vote. Steve's riled up today. I don't hate that at all. It's what you brought up, Mark. How earlier. And the thing that's most infuriating to me, I actually should show them on the screen. But do you know who Mark House Representative is?
We're talking about people not showing up. FBI agent, right? Brian Fitzpatrick. Yeah, former FBI agent. Where was he when that happened? That was pretty cut and dry. This is pretty cut and dry. A man did the thing. They're literally folks who who ended up running stories in The New Yorker who did more than what Steve Baker did as far as walking around, as far as walking through broken windows, literally climbing through
things. At least he went through a door, you know, and his entirety of all of his information has been out there in the world. I don't know. He's presented information that's that's very fair. It's not all one sided. It's not like he's like pumping his first for for the January 6th side of things saying and he's he's reported on the doors being opened by the protesters which was counter to the narrative that a lot of people that are pushing for January 6th are saying that it was a
complete put up job. That's not in their favor for their argument. Steve is an honest journalist who's just reporting but he's also better than what we're seeing the investigative end of the FBI of the of those who are involved in supposedly like the congressional investigations like he's done a better job of putting together the story which is complexed right. It's a complex story. It is. It is a nuanced story. It is that American American Rorschach test that I keep
talking about. You can go back to the first episodes. We did. By the way, folks, we did three hours with Steve the first time he came on. Why? Because one, Steve can talk and I don't hate that. Then I'm talking about Steve Baker here and #2 and and potentially more importantly, the information that we are getting into is it's not an easy situation. It's not. Everybody who's in jail for January 6th is a political prisoner. That's not true. That's false.
There are people there that punch. Cops came there to do violence, got riled up worse than what Steve is sitting on his chair over there. Like then my buddy Steve friend is sitting there getting pissed. These people came out there and they took their frustrations out on ways that were that were not legal. And you can't do that. That's not how you win. That's not how you even show that you care.
And yet there are people that are clearly political prisoners that have been persecuted and prosecuted in ways that have never been done by DOJ, that have never been pursued by the FBI for bullshit crimes. There's no other way to say it. Yeah, I knew you had George Hill on the other day, and George Hill is a guy that'll call balls and strikes and call bullshit where it is. I will call bullshit on going after a Steve Baker. I don't know that staying home
is the answer. I in fact, it doesn't feel like the answer to me. You said that, and I immediately kind of bristled and I'm like, man, I I get being pissed. I also don't like surrender, and I feel like we have to play both ends of it. You got to vote. But there's something that is missing. I like, as you said, our side has been found wanting. I don't know what that thing is. Is it getting out in the streets? Is it getting out and and and screaming at people? That seems to get some?
It's not like the Republicans seem to care about that, although it's certainly pushed back the needle. I mean, I watched Washington, DC become an occupied zone in 2020. I saw people outside the the White House burning shit all like day and night and and they were allowed to do it.
And then we were told people who want to destroy things need a place to destroy it. And the problem is, is that people that believe what we believe have jobs, they have things to do. They can't go out there and stand on the street like the democratic socialist of America like Mark out Mark Naughton show the other day who are out there reading every name of every Palestinian they can't pronounce about a situation they don't even understand and probably
would have like they would want to end them. And in any case there's this thing and and this is an interesting way because you've got you've got rage I've got a lot of rage about this stuff. Like it's it's boiling and I think our chat has probably got the same situation. People are pissed. But the question is what this is where it's going to come down to and I I showed this to my wife. This is hands down the most unsettling thing that I've ever
seen in any broadcast media. It's worse than seeing someone light themselves on fire to me because that's just one person who's doing something, standing for himself and he's making a terrible decision. And I would call that mental illness, radicalization. There's a lot of it. This presented as a like a a reasonable perspective. The reason why we played the left is Loony Eclipse. This is from MSNBC. This is Mika Brzezinski who's nuts and dumb. She's a dumb person.
She is not intelligent. She speaks. She also has Donald Trump's haircut, which also every time I see it makes me like, cringe. This little clip which you also have not seen. And a lot of people, you guys, many of you have already seen. This is fully crazy. When I showed it to my wife, she was like, I'm glad you went out and got more guns. Like, that's a mom of four who's nursing an infant right now, who's like, this is the talk that leads to violence. And it's not coming from us.
It's coming from the crazies. And they're presented like they're academics, like they're scholars, like they're journalists, like we're seeing Steve Baker get ready. Just, like, tuck yourself in for this nonsense. Are you ready? Because this is this is going to be the wildest thing you've ever heard on a network television broadcast. I I can almost guarantee it. Stand by. Here we go. I hope I didn't pump this thing up too much.
Joining us now, Professor of Political Science at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County, Tom Schaller and journalist and opinion writer Paul Waldman. Their new book, out tomorrow is entitled White Rural Rage, The Threat to American Democracy. And Tom, we'll start with you. Why are white rural voters a threat to democracy at this point? You would think, as we pointed out looking at Joe Biden's background and Donald Trump's, that that the opposite would be true.
I mean, we lay out the fourfold interconnected threat that white rural voters pose to the country, first of all, and we show 30 polls in national studies to demonstrate this. So we provide the receipts in Chapter 6. They're the most racist, xenophobic, anti immigrant, anti-gay geodemographic group in the country. Second, they're the most conspiracious group Q. And on support and subscribers. Election denialism, COVID denialism and scientific skepticism.
Obama birtherism. Third anti democratic sentiments. They don't believe in an independent press free speech. They're most likely to say the president should be able to act unilaterally without any checks from Congress or the courts or their bureaucracy. They're also the most strongly white nationalist and white Christian nationalist and 4th they are most likely to excuse or justify violence as an acceptable alternative to SO. You mentioned a lot of negative factors about about this this
demographic. You ever seen anybody say anything like that on a network television program like, like explicitly of the United States, right? This is, this is the furthering of what's been going on, which is the most disturbing trend in American politics because historically, candidates throw mud at each other. I mean, you, you want to get a good laugh? Like look and see what John Adams and Thomas Jefferson called each other when they were running for president.
I mean, it was ridiculous, but it was contained to the candidate. In fact, it was so outside the bounds to even attack the president or the presidential or the candidate's family so taboo that that was frowned upon. Now we've completely ripped off the mask and we are not going after the particular candidate for office. We're going after the supporters of a candidate, right?
It's not that there's a bad candidate, it's you're a bad person for supporting a candidate that we think is illegal, immoral, unethical, whatever kind of crazy things they did. Everything that we just heard feels like an escalation. You shared something with me before we got started here and and our chat is like riled up about all these thoughts and I'm not mad at them for it. Look, we need to be pissed. But the plan is not obvious.
And the problem is this what we have, and I think George Hill and I have talked about this a lot. We have a lot of people that fundamentally are coming. They're they're fighting 2 instincts. One of them is injustice is what we're seeing. That's where we're all sitting. That's the anxiety, That's the the frustration, that's the anger comes from injustice that
we are witnessing. The other side of it is, is a difficulty in believe like giving up that belief that the United States is a place that needs to be a country of law and order and that there is a legitimacy to having elected representatives. We're fighting against these two instincts. They're they they shouldn't be opposed. But what what has happened is one thing has turned when you turn the institution of government against the people that are actually the ones where
they derive the power from. And we end up in this scenario where the people who are system idealists are actually now fighting against their their own system because the the thing that they believe in is no longer the thing that they believe in. Hence my statement earlier today. The country that I grew up in would invade the country that I live in. I haven't moved out of the country in that time.
There's a fundamental pivot that shows that the thing that we tried to believe in, that we grew up sort of being indoctrinated to to say this is good, this is righteous. It is no longer that but but coming to grips with that and then knowing what that plan is. The word betrayal has been said on this podcast probably like 10 times in the last 1010 or 15 days. Border Patrol being betrayed. They signed up to do Border Patrol.
They are now being, you know, concierge service for illegal people when their job is to actually interdict them and send them home. FBI agents. They're arresting people from misdemeanors like Steve Baker when in theory they signed up with the same sort of intention you and I did, rundown bad guys, stop people in Indian reservations, stop white collar fraud, you know, break up the
mob, whatever the hell it was. Like the things that we actually believe were there when the system idealist is no longer able to to recognize that system. Like that's the thing we're trying to, we're trying to grapple with. And I don't think there's a good answer to it yet. I think that's the thing that everybody is struggling with. It's like the minute that somebody had that clarity moment where the plan is clear but it's not then everybody be like yes, that's what we're doing is it.
You know that's why the whole 1776 returns mentality that people are putting in their head. This is a revolutionary time. I think Vivek was correct when he talks about that. But it's it's really hard because it's crossing a boundary that never look it's it's it's crossing the Rubicon in the way that when Julius Caesar brought an army across the Rubicon and said I am no longer going to
play by the rules. I'm not going to step down as the dictator and the and the controller of these armies that that's the moment that we are basically standing at that river and trying to figure out is this it is this the cross. I think that there's it's been too long proceeding where people the the the tendency is the person that just acts just takes action regardless of whether or not it it meets with. It's all the all the laws and all the the policies and
procedures. If you just act, people assume you know what you're doing and you're coming from a position of authority. Just acting is leadership and that could be for good or if it could be for ill And the other side has always just done things. They're the joker from The Dark Knight and the side that you and I tend to come from is very loathe to do that. We want to look at the rules ahead of time and look at the the Constitution and say, well, no, you can't really do that.
And what happens when you were in an asymmetrical battle politically with one side that says, well, we have to follow the rules guys and the other side says I don't recognize rules. It's like your comparison between chess and checkers versus demolition Derby. They're not playing the same rules. They're not playing the same game here.
And as a result of that, people are going to have to embrace the fact that you're going to have to be inconvenienced and uncomfortable to a level that you've never experienced in your life if this country has the opportunity to continue to
operate as a going concern. And not enough people still are willing to do that because I I, I'm I'm lit today I had an experience last week multiple speaking engagements that I found incredibly frustrating because I was brought in to talk and I encourage people to do things in their lives that the bullseye theory that you talk about where the things are close to your home and in your life you do and improve those and if you have the resources and the bandwidth then you operate
outside of that. So I'm going to make sure that I educate my kids and I and then I I teach them right and wrong and then I'm going to help my community. And then I'm going to worry about my county and then I'm going to worry about my state. And the people I talked to had me come in there and they they they clapped like seals and then they went back to singing Lee Greenwood, God bless the USA because I was just infotainment for them.
I was no different than going to watch the the Marvel movie at the theater tonight. They are not prepared to actually do the things that I was talking about. I gave them the action items. I gave them things that I suggest, and I'm not saying that I'm right. I'm just saying you have to be willing to be inconvenienced and uncomfortable more than you are now. And people love their Netflix too much. Still, the the inflation is not hard enough yet.
And I think that we're getting to a point now where we're crossing the Rubicon. And I don't think that there's a way to pull it back, especially when the answer continues to be we're just going to vote harder every two, four and six years and then go back to watching our infotainment on TV and checking out. And that is never the answer. That wasn't the way the country was supposed to be. The country was supposed to be hard. The country, being American, is not a leisure pursuit.
It's supposed to be difficult. It's supposed to be hard. There's a reason that we romanticize going and living on a mountain somewhere, because it's really hard, but you have to do it and pull yourself up by your own bootstraps, and there's no Big Daddy government to do it for you. And because of the success we've had as a country, too many people are just too darn comfortable and they're willing to accept it and to go along and suffer.
While it's sufferable, and it's been insufferable to me for way too long at this point, I'm blown away that we are this far down the road and I still can't wake people up. You just said the mountainside sort of fantasy, the the go, retire to a mountain, live a quiet life, ignore all things. We sort of know from all the sort of archetypal movies, as silly as they were. That's that's the movie
Commando, by the way. The man who wants to be left alone, the quiet man who simply wants to do what he wants to do and not be involved with the the garbage that's going on below the mountain. And we we've been talking in a in a joking way, but I'm not actually joking about it about
Baker's Ridge, right. So some people will be familiar with the concept of Ruby Ridge. And Ruby Ridge was a place obviously where the the government overreach came after a very, very low level, a low level felony issue and a failure to appear bench warrant. And the ATF came in trying to justify a budget and they ended up killing a woman and a child while trying to kill the actual subject of their investigation who actually died of old age. This is Randy Weaver and the
Weaver family. This is also somebody who served the the country honorably. It was a Green Beret and just wanted to be left alone. His ability to be a white supremacist or anything else is irrelevant to me. It's actually not like you're allowed to do that in this country. You're allowed to be an asshole as long as you want to just keep it to yourself. Like it's not even going to bother anybody. Who cares what you think if you just want to be a separatist?
And then we're seeing more and more of that trend from our government ratcheting up this talk. Baker's Ridge, For those of you who don't understand what I'm saying, is that the suspendables have said we need to maybe borrow Glenn Beck's cabin, fortify the position and put the suspendable crew up there and start keeping Overwatch. And keep Steve Baker away from the federal government. Because I don't want to see him do. I don't want to see him go to jail for something stupid.
And he'll only do 10 days or 20 days. Or he'll do what Owen Troyer did, where he'll be sentenced to 60 and he'll get 45 of them because of the first step back to whatever. Like, none of that is tolerable to me. And and and we're talking about a court system in Washington, DC that is going to essentially they will convict him. And unless they're going to stay while he appeals, he will already have suffered the
penalty that happened. And either way, Steve's lost sleep over it. He's lost years of his life over it. I have as well. I'm not sleeping well over this stuff, this stuff like it keeps me up. I know it keeps you up. It it disturbs us. Even though you have smoother skin than me because you live in a better climate. Like I like people can see I look like shit right now. I have bags under my eyes. It does.
I don't wake up feeling restful or comforted that this is going on and I'm picking up. I'm picking up things. It's like well what do we need? We need a semi O Matic shotgun. We need a breeching gun. We need some options and I've I've increased those. None of that is a good place for for a quiet man who wants to be left alone.
I want to pivot from stating that which by the way I'm not opposed to sitting on the the top of a mountaintop and and just challenging them because I can imagine I just bought a 4570 by the way folks. And that shoots like a 400 grand cannonball that even if you have plates on it will change your life dramatically. It might separate your heart from your body even though it's behind the plate.
The the thing that that continues to to to be more and more obvious and that you you dropped it on me before we started the show. One of the things that I exposed was the fact that the FBI was going after Catholics. And the reason they did it was this fake connection to white supremacists, right, What they call racially motivated about extremists. We're talking about the same thing that happened in the 90s, the white supremacist thing. They they tied it to what was called pack on.
It was an entire, it was entire movement of the FBI to try to ensnare people that were sort of like patriotic separatists. I don't know if I would have liked them, but I don't know that I wouldn't because they've been painted into a different light than what, but they probably were. And now the FBI and this this group here is they're starting
to talk about white rage. They're the most dangerous people because they're Christians, because they love God, because they think that God is the reason that they have rights in this country, right. And they are now going to just drop that, that Catholic, radical traditionalist Catholic and it'll just be called Christian nationalist, not white Christian nationalist, which is where we started that white rage piece. But just anybody doesn't matter
your skin color. If you happen to believe in a Christian faith and that this nation's found it that way, you're the problem. You're the enemy. We're seeing that that pivot happen, including by the president. They're and they're, they're messaging it and and it's easy to get sucked into the actual terminology debate. I know there's people that are on the the Christian conservative, right. They're saying, you know, we're just going to lean into this phrase. We're going to own it.
Yeah, that's right. I'm a Christian nationalist. Look, they can call you a scuba diver. They can call you a ventriloquist dummy. It doesn't matter. You are the problem. It doesn't matter how you want to get specific into your ideology. You are the problem. It's easy. Goes back to a reason that we have a Second Amendment in this country. We have a Second Amendment in this country. Not for hunting, not for home defense.
Those are extra bonuses. We have a Second Amendment to the country because if we don't, the government will come in and blast you in the face. That is the nature of government. Even in a free constitutional Republic. The government wants to harm you and take away your life. So this messaging that we've gotten, that we got, that Kyle exposed with the radical traditional Catholic memo, that was a trial balloon for the next evolution of identifying problematic people.
If you actually read the memo, it ties going to the Latin Mass with having certain, I don't know, political perspectives. Things like being pro-life, pro traditional marriage, and that makes you prime border security, white supremacy. Yeah. What pro gun, pro border sovereignty that makes you prime for? Radical white supremacy, racial extremism as far. Last time I checked, there's a lot of Latino Catholics, but that doesn't matter. And I I did a fair amount of
research on this. This has been going on. That was a trial balloon. It didn't pass muster because Kyle exposed it too early. But there were conversations back then about white Christian Nationalism, and they had to pare it back, which is why they're coming out now with the Christian Nationalism. It's the exact same argument.
If you look at the polling and the studies that they've done, they're all funded by the same organizations, by like The Atlantic, by the Brooking Institute, and they're talking about things. The fact of it, even though it doesn't matter what the tan level is in your skin, if you hold Christian beliefs, it's still motivated by racial, violent white supremacy, and the FBI will be all too happy to
open up an assessment. An assessment is just an investigation because they have what they call a racially motivated, violent extremism category, and they will open up an assessment on you because you hold Christian beliefs, not because you hold Christian beliefs because they'll say there's a caveat, but because those beliefs are there's there's a certain white supremacy to it, even though you might actually not be a white person.
It doesn't matter. They will open the assessment and then they will start the process of provoking of using the tools in their toolbox to go back and find anything that they possibly can to say, oh look the the conversations you were having online we find to be morally abhorrent and maybe a cult of violence. We will introduce undercovers.
We will find informants, we will do whatever we can and we'll find a vulnerable person So we can get them that this is what they did to our our buddy Alpha by the way. So Alpha Luna, Alfredo Luna was literally raided by the FBI on state red flag bullshit again. I'm going to use the same word because it's the accurate term. They used the federal SWAT team to come in and grab him. And you know what? It was over him saying will you fight for this country?
Will you bleed for this country? The way that I signed up to do when I was a Marine. And that was considered violent rhetoric because it was surrounding January 6th, which by the way, he advised people not to go to. It always looked like a trap from me. It looked like a trap when I lived in DCI. See the when they said they were going to have that rally there, I was like, oh man, I can see the Admiral Ackbar, you know, pivoting in the chair garden. It's a trap. Like a trap. Like a trap.
I told the FBI agents that were that were active agents that were ready to retire. I probably saved a couple of careers that way. I'm not even probably I'm not even going to couch it in that term. I saved at least a couple of people's entire situation by advising them against that. And this is, and this is not a
right left thing. On the Amrad podcast, we had Trevor Aaronson come and talk and he talked about the Alphabet Boys podcast that he had and he talked about those are the the racial justice protests going on, the George Floyd riots. OK, he comes at it from the left. He sees it as a racial justice protest. That's fine. However he wants to terminology it. But within that case, the FBI jammed up a black guy with a gun charge. They had an informant give him money and say I I need you to go
into Bass Pro and buy me a gun. And this guy was scared because this guy represented himself to be like a special Forces dude. So he took the money that the FBI gave him, walked into Bass Pro with the informant bought the gun and then gave it to him. And the FBI jammed him up with that as a now because because of the Alphabet boys podcast he appealed for overturn on the conviction. OK.
And the government in its argument back said that they even though they they investigated him for forced for First Amendment speech because he was saying things like you know we need to fight the the the language he used was violent and ergo necessitated them to criminally charge him for speech because we've allowed we've allowed the left to capture this this idea silence of violence your your words are violence that has been it's been marinated into our DOJ.
So these idiots these like leftist ideologues that are coming out of our you know education system are actually believing that. And I got this other video here which I'll play just I promise you this is the last one you guys are going to go want to puke after you see this too this
is the Air Force Academy speech. This is how you end up with that is that people have internalized basically being retarded things that don't make any sense at all that are completely illogical that have nothing to do with the job that they were required to do. This is a a a space force Lieutenant Colonel talking about how the most important thing we can do is is have pronouns in our emails, especially if you
don't think that you need them. And and being respectful and giving everyone dignity, that's not what the military does. There's no dignity in the military. I crap my pants in front of all my all my friends in the military because I got sick like I fell apart and my body got wrecked doing that. I got made one of the greatest things that ever happened as far as like just silly stories. I was getting smoked out of my gourd at PJ in Doc and I have a
diarrhea problem. I'm just going to say what it is. It's diagnosed and I always laugh about it. It's like the funniest thing that that exists because I I have it for life now and it's all the time. In fact, I had it with the VA doctor where the doctor's just like tell me about the diarrhea. I'm like, every shit is an emergency. What do you want to hear? It's all the diarrhea. It's like every time. How many times? It's like, I don't know, four times today, How many times you
want to know? I was in PJN dot getting my my, my face smoked off and then I'm like, I got a find a toilet and I'm like where can I go in the cadre? The instructors, they look over and they just pointed at some bushes. So that's what happened. That's where I went. And then when I got out of there they're all falling over laughing on themselves.
They're dying laughing because as I came out of the bushes on the other side what I couldn't see, but it was just an angle because it was a truck in the way we're like 5 porta potties. There were toilets right there but they had me crap in the bushes because that's what the military is. It's not about, it's not about being dignified.
It's about getting broken down because you have a mission set that is bigger than you, and you're supposed to go do violence and be be horrifically angry at the enemies of this country. And now we're horrifically angry at the people that are supposed to be the ones protecting this country. So everyone is furious. This is going to be another touch of that. We'll do that and then we'll wrap this thing up here.
I've got, I do actually have something that's like really good news because I think this is still fringe. And the question is this. Can we get away from this media garbage narrative and go unite with neighbors who probably don't agree with us but still know if they're given the opportunity to have real facts that we're all agreeing on, like 75 or 80% of it? Like last night I was, I was feeling like pretty good before I went to bed.
We do agree on 80% of things that are out there in the world, like 8 things out of 1016, things out of twenty. Americans actually do have a a solid grounding on it. And even Whoopi Goldberg and I would find more common ground than not. I would say that overwhelmingly, even though she has that stupid warlord haircut. OK, Speaking of stupid haircuts, how about this idiot? All too often, I hear leaders talk about providing everyone with dignity and respect like it's an aspirational goal.
That's not good enough. Dignity and respect is the bare minimum. It's the floor of where we can be. We must set our sights higher and focus on intentional inclusivity, because there are still far too many people out there, not just LGBTQ individuals, that feel marginalized, shut out, or discriminated against. So for all of you out there, I ask you to set out your symbols of pride.
Share your pronouns in your e-mail, particularly if you're a person who doesn't think they need to initiate difficult conversations about racial and gender barriers, and share a bit of a your vulnerability in a way that draws others in. Don't care any further Steve. I just got this thrown up here. Brianna Morello just threw this up from the from the courthouse. Apparently this was posted on Twitter. This is the United States of America versus Steven Baker.
DOB has exed out criminal complaint saying that on January 6th, 2021 he did the following offences. These are four charges, 18 USC 1752, Knowingly Entering or remaining in Restricted Building or Grounds without Lawful authority. 1752 Again, different section Disorderly and disruptive conduct in the Restricted building or grounds. 5401, which is the disorderly conduct in the in a Capitol
building. And 5401, parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a government building signed off on by Craig Noya as the Special Agent, as we talked about. So that's apparently what Baker is facing down anyway. This this dude with a haircut he's representing the enemy. But even that guy is not my enemy. He's been captured and is walking around a a man now wearing a dress or whatever the hell that was.
But more I just wanted to kind of throw up the other criminal complaint piece so you can kind of reflect on that with these charges. How weak is this nonsense. I mean is that what Noya signed up with the FBI to do 15 years in now that's what he hoped he would spend his time doing.
Who knows what this guy And, and I'm, I'm just going to be consistent on this, If you sign up for a position of public trust, if it's as an FBI agent, if it's a Congress person, whatever it is, and you use the levers of power to line your pocket and are willing to harm people to do that, that's what Craig Noyes did. Craig Noyes looked at the situation and said, I know that what Steve Baker did is not illegal and not improper, but I would rather get paid.
So I'm going to be willing to put him into a cage. So that I can go back to my three 3600 square foot, 3 bedroom house in Wake County, North Carolina in Durham, valued at $800,000 that I purchased in 2013. Again Craig, work on your Opsec and I'm OK with that. That is someone who does not deserve their freedom. They don't deserve their job. They don't deserve a respect.
He should walk around. And if someone who is ashamed to the level of, you know, I've been watching that World War 2 documentary on Netflix on the front lines and they were talking about the the liberation of Paris and how the women who conspired with the the Nazi soldiers afterwards, they shaved their heads and they made them publicly shamed. That's what it should feel like to be an FBI agent right now. That's what it should feel like to be an FBI employee.
Anyone. Because you can't just delude yourself. And I'm just doing my job. I'm just the things that I'm doing are fine. You were part of a broken organization, a broken system, and it extends beyond the FBI. But to Craig Noyes specifically, I hope your children disown you. I hope you wind up penniless.
I hope you lose everything. But even if you don't, I can take comfort in the fact that I'm not going to have to spend eternity with you because you will be in a lake of fire burning forever and never consumed for what you're willing to do to your fellow countrymen. Just let that sit there for a second. That's that's what how people who are betrayed feel. And I know you were. I know I am. And we feel betrayed for our friend. I'm sick that that the people
that we worked with are. Some of them did the same oath and they walked right into that same, that same ordinary men trap, even though we know for a fact that they were trained not to it. It's not like they they didn't have a heads up that this was a possibility.
It's literally before you even get to put your badge on they tell you that this is a real thing and that it really results in millions of people dying that that is what is what was always been struck me with the fact that we all uniquely cited that training and that experience to ourselves and it wasn't something that we we talked about and hashed out behind the scenes. We're like, hey guys, this is a really good talking point. We should really message this
hard. We all independently that that again, we're back to the the providential nature of the way that our relationships have all been. We all uniquely cited that in our in our interactions with people within the FBI when we were just trying to be town criers. We were just saying guys, we are system idealists. We want to do the right thing. We want to do the job. What we're doing is wrong.
And we cited our trip to the Holocaust Memorial and our trip to the MLK memorial because the banality of evil is a real thing. It cannot be denied. It is a question of history. Unlike the Netflix documentary which argued that racial justice was behind the Battle of the Bulge, the fallen nature of man, and the evil that we are willing to inflict on each other. If even it comes to a question of personal profiting, that is real.
And unless people are willing to throw the flag and say that, then we are just going to continue on this path. And guys like Steve Baker and you and Garrett and me are going to be rolled because too many people are just too darn
comfortable. I had another agent reach out and share with me his disciplinary record showing that he was disciplined 7 days on the bricks, unpaid, because he changed his icon in a teams meeting from his photograph to a picture of the yellow band that was made to be worn that the Jews had to wear during the Holocaust. And in mitigation, he's an outstanding employee that has never had a disciplinary problem and has kicked ass at everything he's ever done but in aggravation.
There was a league at an FBI executive who was also on that call and also there was an employee who was a Jew that felt very uncomfortable knowing that by the way this agent has familial ties to ethnic Judaism and is of course a Christian like so many who saw what evil looks like and said I'm just going to let you know I'm not cool with what you guys are trying to push here and I'm just reminding you this was on a flip and zoom call essentially not it like not a face shown.
This was a icon in AMS teams chat based all hands type meeting where they were hundreds of people and he was one single icon amongst many others and that was a problem lost seven days worth of pay for it which is not a which is not a small amount of money. It's, you know, it's a couple 1000 bucks. It's not going to jail forever. It's not turning yourself in and losing your badge. But it is an unbelievable response.
The people who drove that are the people like that Space Force person who is speaking, who as passionate as I've been today about what I'm talking about, that person is equally as passionate about pronouns in the bio line in your e-mail. And the people at the FBI who went after that guy are that passionate about you really need to take an experimental mRNA jab in your arm because I might get the chest cold if you don't. That's the we're we're we're beyond talking past each other.
That's an irreconcilable psychiatric problem at this point where I don't I don't know I don't have the solutions to how we can possibly come back to this. I I, I to me the solution is is going to be to fortify the areas that we can in our lives. So as it's originally intended it's the United States of America. Like I, I, I even said this to somebody I'm I'm going to have a
conversation with later today. I said I am going to like go old school and people will say hey you know where who are you an American? I'm like no I'm a Floridian. I, I, I'm, I come. I hail from Volusia County, Florida like that's what's going to drive me and and and maybe that's as it was originally intended. It was originally intended to be a loose confederation of states a loose confederation of communities and supposed to be
hard. It was originally intended to be hard and difficult and inconvenient. And we've just kind of gotten away from that. And as a result we have people who are pontificating and waxing poetic about how we all everyone in this room, even though there's like four people in the room, need to put our pronouns in our BIOS because reasons. I guess that's that's what's going to save the country. It's not.
It's going to be things like faith, family and freedom, things that that you consistently advocate for in the show. Wouldn't it be something if after whatever happens today, and I I assume best case scenario, and I pray the best case scenario that Steve Baker is released at 10:30 or 11:00 this morning and he goes back and puts on his suit jacket and then he goes and deals with
whatever's coming next. But if they decide to come for him, which they will when they run the run the case that we don't allow that I almost want to see the come and claim him sort of mentality we saw in Lord of the Rings. There's a reason why that that that rings true with us. It's like it may be a fight to the death but come and claim
him. Wouldn't it be nice if this Texas DPS if we actually had a like a like a Greg Abbott in the state of Texas that had the courage of conviction to say, you know what not only are we going to stand up against your border authority, we don't recognize your ability to to take journalists down. We believe in the First Amendment and we will defend him and your court is a kangaroo court and therefore we are not going to legitimize it. By the way the anti Federalists were correct.
Yes they they were correct from the beginning and and you had this conversation earlier this week with Garrett about being on that raid in Kansas. I I think it's it's also relevant to what we're talking about now he he reflected on how there was a neighbor who was there who came out and was kind of accosting them saying what are you doing, leave him alone. And that was the concern that I had when I came forward.
I said, guys, we're gonna go into a community that's going to say not today, we don't recognize your authority over a friend. Bubba mighta even done something wrong. But that's my Bubba. And if he did something wrong, we'll handle it. And you know, what's more important is that we don't recognize your legitimacy in any way, shape or form. So whatever it is that you think he did wrong, that's not going to be up to you. That's coming. It. It's slow.
It's a slow burning fuse. As you've talked about. It's the man who wants to be left alone. There are plenty of people that are very comfortable. There's a lot of people that are simmering that have already made the decision. And I don't know when it's going to. They're going to be put to that decision. But they're somebody's going to flip over, just like playing that, that game memory. They're going to flip over the wrong card. And you're correct when you called that out, they're going
to flip over the wrong card. And it's going to be the bomb card. And the bomb card is going to be everything blows up because all the stability that we've been holding on to is no longer there. Because I know there are communities that have already had that conversation. If somebody comes for one of them and they're this group, if it's not our local sheriff that we actually have some trust in, if we see vehicles we don't recognize that are not marked with our markings that we paid
for, not today. And there's a real, real chance I, I, I started telling people the minute that I started going public with this story, the Timothy McVeigh experience that that happened, that was awful and unjust and a lot of children lost their lives during that. But the sentiment is brewing right now and they are pushing it. And it feels to me like the FBI wants that because it's going to justify everything that's going to come afterwards, which is the
tyrannical move. That to me is the most horrific thing. That if you're participating and you don't look around because the people who died on those on that day and then will die in the next move are not going to be people that deserve it necessarily. They'll be friends of ours, that we know we're doing the right thing and that are trying to trying to share information with the inside. Those would be the people who die. That's always who dies. It's never the people that are evil.
It's like the Hoover Bolt's going to blow up. Something bad will happen and people will be harmed. And then people in positions of public trust, whether or not they're FBI agents or elected officials, whoever they are, are going to look at that and say this is great, this is a great opportunity for the same way they did on January 6th.
This is our 911 again. Or they'll say this is our January 6th, the next round that has already been indoctrinated and already agreed, like your former supervisor who have now bought in and now they're now they're committed. They have no other choice. That's what their career is riding on. And they think that actually matters. Oh yeah, I mean, look,
accountability here. Greg Federico, special supervising special agent in Daytona Beach, told me two years ago when I came forward that they were going to start arresting people outside the Capitol. And he had a spine of Jello and even though I had legitimate concerns and even offered for alternative duties, he facilitated my suspension. I'm not supposed to name Greg Federico, so I will not name Greg Federico more than three
times up the chain of command. Colt Murkowski, who told me that the people on January 6th killed police officers, is still the Assistant Special Agent in charge of Jacksonville Colt Markovski. I have an authority after January 6th was in charge of the JTTF in Jacksonville, said that he disagreed with what was going on, but once he was elevated, he
became a company man. Got to get that paycheck, got to get that GS15, and then all the way up to my Special Agent in charge, Sherry Onks. Sherry Onks, who just retired because apparently the Weaponization Committee couldn't get its acting gear and actually subpoena her to come testify about her collusion with Trunk Jenny about how they were going
to suspend FBI whistleblowers. She was the one who told me that the FBI did really good work in Portland, even though no one was arrested, and that I really need to do some soul searching if I thought that what we were doing might be violative of our oaths of office. Because, you know, the FBI can't is beyond all reproach, right? It's the James Comedy Cardinal College of Cardinals that he surrounded himself with. That mentality has permeated amongst the entire rank and
file. It's not even just the people at the very top of the pyramid. It's all the way down to the bottom level. We're burning up today. We're a little hot. I'm going to show something at the end here to kind of to turn up the heat in a different way. Let me throw it. So throw thanks out to my folks over at Patriot Coolers real quick, guys. You guys can go to patriotcoolers.com. Promo code is Kyle. They're one of the sponsors of
the show. They allow me to have these conversations and share them with you. Put my buddy Steve's voice and our names out there to be able to talk about what's going on with our buddy Steve Baker, who's at the courthouse right now. Promo code is Kyle again at patriotcoolers.com. We're grateful for them. They don't care what it is that
we say. They know that what we are saying is just and righteous and that we're going to just keep bringing it. It's nice to have sponsors that are not willing to cancel us simply because of the things that we have to say. I fear nothing with these types of folks. And I, I'm just saying if you're in the market, this is the kind of companies you want to support, the ones that will step up and support us.
And it's a big deal. They've been there since February of 2023, which is a pretty good, pretty good run so far. Now over a year as our sponsor, Patriot coolers.com, the promo code is called, you'll save 10% there and we're going to finish it up here. Are you ready for a little bit heat, Steve? That is not, I don't think I've shown you this either. Here's some heat that is not the kind of heat that we're bringing. This is the kind of heat that I
expect to see. This is what I think Americans look like the back story is. Let me just read a back story real quick because I've got that as well. How about this? Let's see if I can find it. I'm like clicking around parents speak out after Hero Pizza guy rescues their four children and a friend from their burning home. You know the things that we thought people would do after an argument with his girlfriend.
Pizza delivery guy Nick Bostic took his car for a drive to clear his head on a seemingly sleepy summer night. By the end of the night he'd save 5 people from a burning home and counting a six year old girl that he jumped out of a second story window and suffered injuries and said it was all worth it. The first thing he said was is she OK? Let's just play the video of this guy. This is from the body Cam of the cops who were responding. Good on the firefighters who
show up as well. They do a decent job of being there. This is the video of this guy coming out of the flames. That car right there. Somebody pulled in. To let him know their house is on fire. I saw him around back, that's the last time. I. Hey guys, a six year old girl and a 23 year old male Mr. Mythic in the house somewhere. What have you got? 6 year old female and a 23 year old male possibly inside. Guys, come here. Come here. Are you? Say Dion. Come. With me, man.
Come with me. Come with me from the house. Hey, we got to get away from the house, OK? Is. The baby, OK, please tell me that baby's OK. Yeah, we're good, 100%, Yep. You're. OK, you did good, dude. OK. That's the Super Bowl of masculinity right there folks. That's what it looks like. Dude was driving, saw a house on fire, went in and pulled three out and an adult and found out there was still a six year old upstairs and he ran back into it.
What you're seeing there on the ground is him laying there, dude. He's getting he's getting a tourniquet because he cut his arm as he came out and he's all sliced up. So they they blur that out from the body Cam footage and he looks like he's got some pretty decent burns on him. And his question was is the baby OK? That was just. I'm just quoting right out of it. Is is the baby OK? Please tell me that baby's OK And they're like, yeah, 100% she's good.
That man that that was always, there's always the debate between like police and fire and I'm like man, guys were running into burning buildings. Like that's a whole different different, you know, comparison. I mean, I'm sure there's the, the active shooter comparison, but I think that's it, man. That what do you save it for that that's what you always ask.
And you know, if if you lay your head down 50 years, 60 years hence and realize that you drove by a burning house and then then read the news the next day that a six year old died because, you know, you just didn't want to be inconvenienced, then how do you live with that? And and that guy said, not today. Not on my watch. He didn't. He didn't wake up and go to deliver pizzas that day thinking that he was going to save a
bunch of people. But when the opportunity presented itself, he didn't think otherwise. And that is real heroism. I mean that's I hope that my sons become like that man right there. And that would have done my job as a father. That's the guy that's delivering pizzas. And we got some dude in a dress. He's given speeches about leadership and what heroism looks like in our military. That's how you know we're upside down right now. But that guy's still out there in this country.
That's the thing that, that that sticks with me. He may not be in the military. He's not in the US about pronouns. Like, do you think does it matter at all? No, it matters that there's a kid on fire upstairs and today is not the day that she dies, if I have something to say about it anyway. I know a lot of people are going to if you've never been that close to a like a real fire, there's a mental, there's a mental hurdle that you have to go over to run into it.
Like you said, running into a burning building. I'd rather face down an active shooter with a knife. I'd rather go and and I think that's 100% the case. I'd also rather face an active shooter with a knife as you said earlier then listen to that pronoun idiot, give a speech in a room. But at the end of the day those guys are still out there in this country. We're still raising men. Maybe not a lot of them, maybe not all of them. It doesn't take everybody.
There are still people. That's what the suspendables is all about. That guy doesn't. He wasn't going to get suspended for what he was doing. He just knew that what the right thing to do was when it came up and he didn't hesitate and he ran back into the damn building because they said there's one more in there and he went and got baby K and by the way that baby that he's carrying that's a six year old that's my oldest that's not necessarily like a
like a tiny baby. And he called he called the child a baby like that's that's all you need to know about that. It's the same thing that Mark out said all children as babies. It's the same thing Mark Out said when that when the FBI came to his door. I have I have seven babies in this house. I have six babies in this house. Whatever the words he said, same exact word. It's just a trigger. It's like that's we protect babies in this country. It's part of what's wrong right
now. I think we that's another conversation. But all right that's a heavy Friday folks. Appreciate you guys coming in here again. Steve Baker we're going to we'll watch the Twitter accounts you can watch TPC 4 USA. That's Steve Baker's account. I'm sure he'll tweet as soon as he's out and free Brianna Morello covering it live from
the courthouse. She's going to be there she's going to be in the hearing when if she's able to sit in the in the gallery for the initial which she should be able to. So follow her follow Steve Friend my buddy here on Twitter as well at real Steve friend. You guys can buy his book if you want. The links are all there in his in his profile. Again, it's it's at real Steve friend and then you want to do a you want to do a merch read for
Garrett since he's not here. You want to do the merch read. Yeah, you got it, man. We got to go to www.thedashsuspendables.com. Support the O'boyle family sweatshop. Look guys, I had got called today by producers over at the Hick Glen decks program. They want to know what it is to be a suspendable. And I told them about the story behind us and I told him that we saw merch. And it all goes to support the Boyle family who is suffering at the hands of our ex-girlfriend,
the FBI. No paycheck for a year and a half. The FBI is sending him medical bills and sending Steve Baker prison or trying to at least. So we need to push back any way we can to support the good people like Steve Baker, like Garrett Boyle. Go there and get yourself a hat. Get yourself AT shirt. Whatever he's got there, let's buy him out of the inventory. Garrett deserves it. He's a he's he's a great guy and and we want to support as much as we can.
The Dash suspendables.com. Use the promo code Kyle if you want. It'll save you a couple bucks there. That's just so that they know it's coming from the Seraphin show. Steve, thanks for joining me, buddy. Kind of a heavy show, but worth it and I appreciate you joining on. Our regular chat. It's the only way that we get to chat on a regular basis on any schedule time. We have to actually schedule it to be on the show. Do you know that it's like a
married couple. We have to, like, schedule date nights, right. This is our date morning. Yep. All right, buddy. Have a great weekend. We'll tell you. Want to tell people what you got coming up on Patriot TV later on, too. You might as well. Yeah. Patriot TV. Finishing up the week on FBI weaponization. Mike Waller is coming on as guest 3:00 PM at patriot.tv where it's live stream there you can do watch the real Steve
French show. We might actually change the title to True Blue, but it's 3:00 PM, half hour every Monday through Friday on patriot.tv and then the Amrad Podcast, chapters 5 and six of Animal Farm tomorrow. I'm ready to go. Hopefully, anybody who joins us does the homework. We Garrett. I have fun with the book. Read. Love it. Thanks, buddy. Folks, check out Steve. Make sure you're following him. And yeah, I like True Blue better.
Just for the If anyone asks for my vote, that's what I want to vote. All right. Again, we want to say thanks to Brianna Morello, who's not on the line right now, but we had her on there, you guys. That's her. Her handle. And you guys know how to find her. Please do. Also, we want to say thanks to all of you for joining us and for for continuing to support the show and for putting the five star reviews up on Apple. This one is from Rebel 50. Love it.
Coming from recently and just just the end of last month. Kyle, love the show. Your faith, quick wit, sense of humor, make the show interesting and fun to listen to. Keep knocking it out of the park. God bless you and all the suspendables. God bless you Rebel 50, Thanks for joining our program. Thanks for making it successful. And folks, if you have not hit the thumbs up yet while you're listening there on rumble.com/kyle Seraphin, please do so. You can always join us for the live chat.
There starts at 0830 Central Time where Steve Baker is now in the in the clutches of the DOJ and it is 09/30 on the East Coast. If you guys are out there and it's far too early on the West, you guys can know what times you're on. Join us there on Kyle Seraphin. The The Kyle Serafin Show at rumble.com/kyle Serafin. All right, that's it for the day. God bless all of you. I hope that you are not too distraught. Go be like a man who's going to
run into a burning building. That's what's demanded of you. Do the right thing when you're given the opportunity and you won't look back. All right, we'll see you again on Monday. Thanks for listening to The Kyle Serafin Show streamed live weekdays on rumble.com/kyle Serafin. Follow Kyle on Twitter, Truth, Social and Instagram at Kyle Serafin.