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More Weapons for Ukraine...

Jul 19, 202510 min
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Speaker 1

Boston's Bulldozer operates seven days a week. The KUN Report weekend edition WRKO the Voice of Boston.

Speaker 2

Okay, listen now to President Trump. Yesterday he was in the Oval Office when he made his dramatic announcement that we are now going to be selling a massive weapons package through NATO to Ukraine. Arming now Ukraine, I mean they will be armed to the hilt. There is going to be some serious fighting now over the next couple of months as Russia now pours even more forces along a long front line, as they try to push deeper

and deeper into Ukraine to deliver a decisive victory. And we are now going to give Ukraine pretty much the ability to strike deep into Russia at will, to knock their planes out of the sky and their missiles, and to give the Ukrainian the beleaguered Ukrainian forces all of the tanks, artillery, ammunition that they need to launch a huge counter offensive six one seven two six six sixty

eight sixty eight. It is very clear that Trump is upset about Putin and back and forth phone call after phone call in which Trump believes he's been strung along by Vladimir Putin, that he's you know, says very nice things on the phone. He's diplomatic, he wants peace, and yet he says when I get off the phone, suddenly I hear he's bombing another city, or bombing another town, or his soldiers have captured another village or another strategic position.

Listen now to Trump saying, you know, I'm tired of Putin telling me he wants peace, but in reality it's war, war war. Roll cut three, Mike, how did.

Speaker 1

You tell him?

Speaker 3

I speak to him a lot about getting this thing done, and I always hang up and say, well, that was a nice phone go And then missiles launched into Kieva some other city, and I said, it's strange. And after that happens three or four times. You say the talk doesn't mean anything. My conversations with him are always very pleasant. I say, isn't that a very lovely conversation? And then the missiles go off. That night, I go home, I tell the first lady and I spoke to Vladimir today.

We had a wonderful conversation. She said, oh, really, another city was just hit.

Speaker 2

So he now says he wants to equalize the forces on the battlefield and give Ukraine. Now the opportunity to blunt this offensive and to really bloody Russia's nose. And he believes by doing this it will that, combined with the tariffs and the sanctions should they kick in in fifty days, that this will break Putin and end this war once and for all. Now, final point, and then I want to go to the phone lines six one seven two, six, six, sixty eight sixty eight is the number.

The problem with all of this is that there is no exit strategy, and no one is seeing this from Putin's point of view. And it's not a question of moral equivalents or a question of loving Vladimir Putin or believing in Vladimir Putin, or agreeing with Vladimir Putin. But as any general will tell you worth his or her salt, as any wartime leader will tell you with his or her salt, you have to get into the mind of

your enemy. You have to get into the mind of the people that you're trying to get a peace deal from. And what's in Vladimir Putin's what is driving him, what is his calculation in all of this? Putin now clearly is going for a decisive, knockout victory on the battlefield. He doesn't want to just grind this out at the negotiating table. He wants Ukraine to sue for peace. He wants to end this militarily and by doing this get everything he wants at a final peace settlement after Ukraine

waves the white flag. And the problem that Putin has, and I'm just stating a fact, this is just the reality we all have to face, is that they've lost over half a million Russian soldiers dead combined over a million dead and wounded. This has done tremendous damage to the Russian economy, to the Russian people. This has been an exhausting three year war. So with this horrific investment that he has made in this war, Putin now clearly

feels he needs to win it. He can't stop, he won't stop, He doesn't want to stop, because ultimately he now understands that he needs to win this war to stay in power, and he needs to stay in power in order to stay alive, because anything short of total victory at this point will be seen by most Russians as a massive failure and a betrayal of the dead and of all of the sacrifices that have been made so Now that's fine. That doesn't mean, you know, you

just roll over for somebody. But you have to ask yourself if he's willing to go all the way, and Putin is clearly willing to go all the way, are we willing to go all the way?

Speaker 3

So?

Speaker 2

What if this thing doesn't stop? What if Putin keeps going in September, in October, in November? Are we going to continue to send arms package after arms package after arms package? And if we continue to send defensive weapons as we saw a couple months ago where Ukraine fired them deep into Russian territory and that triggered a massive, overwhelming Russian response, are we going to keep escalating tit for tat, tit for tat? What happens if Putin's back

is against the wall. Do you think he and his regime will accept defeat? Do you think the Russian people will accept defeat? Remember, Ukraine is on their doorstep. Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire for over a thousand years. Ukrainians and Russians share a common culture, a common religion, a common language, a common heritage. They are in many ways Orthodox Slavic Christian brothers. I'm not saying Ukrainians are Russians.

What I'm saying is they are very similar and they have been intertwined for a long part of their mutual histories. So we are getting involved in something that is a fundamental core interest of Russia, and it's very identity and it's very security. They are willing to go all the way, including potentially the use of nuclear weapons. Now are we willing to risk World War III? I keep asking this, and I see these idiots on Fox News. You know

right away, ah, we are gonna show Putin whose boss really? Okay? And what if Putin starts to show us whose boss would say a limited tactical nuclear strike, and then what we respond with a tactical nuclear strike. No one is thinking of the endgame. It's easy to start a war. It's very hard to get out of a war, as both Putin and Zelensky are learning, and as the Russian and Ukrainians are learning. So we have to ask ourselves,

when push comes to shove, is this our business? Is this worth us getting involved in a direct war against Russia, which has the largest nuclear arsenal in the world. To me, the answer is a clear no. It's the answer to me as an obvious no which flag flies over eastern Ukraine the Donbas, whether it is the Ukrainian blue and yellow trident or the Russian red, white and blue Eagle, is of no national strategic security interest of the United States.

And yet here we are potentially risking a world war if this continues to escalate over a part of the world thousands of miles away that most Americans, including all these warmongers on Fox and in Congress led by Lindsey Graham and Dick Blumenthal, that fraud who couldn't find Ukraine on a map or these territories if you held a gun to their head. To President Trump, you campaigned on America first. Please, let's get back to America first, not Ukraine first. America first.

Speaker 1

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