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Total Luxury Boomer Communism

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The King's Hall podcast dissects "Total Boomer Luxury Communism," where government policies disproportionately benefit wealthy seniors at the expense of younger, working families, leading to a fourfold generational injustice. The hosts advocate for a return to biblical principles, urging fathers to love their generations, make sacrifices, and leave an inheritance of faith, wealth, and culture. They offer practical advice on intergenerational living, wise financial stewardship, and honorable communication to build strong, God-centered families despite systemic challenges.

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The U.S. spends vastly more on entitlements than China, the majority of which goes to the wealthiest seniors. Some of that money goes toward golf balls, country club memberships, and horse-back riding. Meanwhile, young working families carry the majority of the tax burden, and cannot afford to buy a home. In this episode, we’ll discuss the problem with this and how boomers can leave a godly inheritance.

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Intro / Opening

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The Problem of Boomer Luxury Communism

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As Helen Andrews recently pointed out, America's workforce is turning into a pink collar economy. Part of the reason for this is that our population is aging out. Younger people aren't reproducing. So the fastest growing jobs are in healthcare. More specifically, the top-growing field is among home health care aids.

As she pointed out, this shows that America is increasingly geriatric, in many ways that America is quite literally dying, dying a slow, lingering death, not unlike the bearers of those sad, empty faces at the nursing home with no one to visit. But it's also symptomatic of a much larger problem that Russ Green recently expounded upon in The American Mind in his article, What is Total Boomer Luxury Communism?

Simply put, total boomer luxury communism means the way our current government siphons money from the younger working class and funnels it to seniors, who are on average much wealthier. Our system works to keep old people in their homes with comfortable wages from Social Security, which can rise as high as sixty thousand dollars per year for an individual, or just shy of a hundred and twenty thousand dollars for a couple.

Most people don't know this, but Medicare programs also pay for golf balls, Greens fees, social club memberships, horseback riding lessons, and even pet food. This means that as younger working families are struggling to get by, they're also being burdened with taxes.

to ensure that their parents and grandparents' generation can golf in the morning, horseback ride in the afternoon, have cocktails in the evening at the country club, and return home to sleep quietly in a million dollar home That they paid thirty seven dollars and three sticks of string cheese for back in nineteen seventy five. A little bit of an overstatement, but but not much.

Now, sure, wages haven't kept pace with inflation or the housing market, but at least young people should take solace that their taxes make it possible for older generations to take that luxury cruise, right? Now, ironically, as Green points out, America actually spends significantly more than communist China on social welfare programs, the majority of which go towards senior care and comfort.

Consider, for example, what Dan Wang wrote for Breakneck: quote: Nearly three-quarters of China's population are spared from paying income tax. Low taxes make China stingy on welfare. Around 10% of its GDP goes towards social spending, compared to 20% of the United States and 30% among the more generous European states. China's pension and health care spending are much lower than that of other rich countries.

Based on Wang's data, the U.S. spends at least six times as much per person on social programs as China, and again, mostly aimed at seniors. Green was right when he called this reality perverse. Retired millionaires, he said, have become the greatest recipients of government aid. Max Social Security benefits in the US are three to four times what seniors can ever hope to achieve in other developed nations, such as Britain, Canada, and New Zealand.

These are allocated by lifetime income, so the greatest social security benefits go to wealthy individuals who need them the least. End quote. You might wonder where all this spending originates from. And you might think it was the Democrat Party. You would be wrong. It came from self-proclaimed fiscal conservatives during the Reagan administration.

As Dan Green notes in the article, quote, the last major Social Security reform occurred when President Ronald Reagan signed the Social Security Amendments of nineteen eighty-three. This legislation saved Social Security from imminent insolvency

By raising the retirement age, slowing benefit growth, and increasing taxes. End quote. It was their aim to keep the peace both with blacks in the ghetto who received massive welfare payouts as a community, and with boomers, a hugely influential voting bloc. It was a manufactured cultural piece that would be paid for by the younger generation. The truth is, since Reagan, neither political party even fights about the budget, except maybe 15% of spending. The other much larger portion?

Well, that barely makes any congressman bat an eye. As Green said, quote, in other words, Democrats and Republicans agree on at least eighty-five percent of federal spending. Mostly because they both support a massive wealth transfer from young workers to seniors. There's no political debate in Congress or even online until recently about total boomer luxury communism. End quote.

What this amounts to, according to Green, is a fourfold generational injustice. First, it's an injustice because government taxation afflicts the young and allows for seniors to live posh lives. Second, the government continues to borrow even more money from future generations to provide luxury for seniors today.

Third, government spending and money printing is driving inflation, which halts economic growth, erodes young families' wealth generating potential, and sets them back financially for life. And fourth, The government will tax young people again to pay for the debt incurred to pay for senior entitlements. This is, of course, insane, but perhaps more insane is that most seniors simply don't care what's happening to the kids.

They live like King Hezekiah in the Old Testament, who, when warned about the destruction and judgment coming on his kids, said, Quote, The word of the Lord that you have spoken is good. For he thought, Why not, if there will be peace and security in my days? Second Kings twenty nineteen.

As long as he could die in luxury, he didn't care much what happened to the future generations. When he was on his sickbed, he cried out to God for more years. But when his kids were in danger, he couldn't even be bothered to offer a single prayer for them. Even the homosexual tech saltant Peter Thiel found this to be highly problematic.

Commenting on the rising popularity of self-described socialist and Muslim politician Zoran Mamdani, he said, quote, Boomers are strangely uncurious about how this is not really working for their kids. If all you can say is that Mom Dani is a jihadist, communist, ridiculously young person, what that sounds like to me is that you still don't have any idea what to do about housing or student debt. If that's the best you can do, you're going to keep losing. End quote.

The Biblical Mandate of Generational Inheritance

What is to be done about this generational problem? Boomers living in luxury while their kids pay for their excess. Much could be said, and we'll talk more about it in the episode. But we should start with the words of the prophet Malachi, who foretold a day when the Lord would, quote, turn the hearts of fathers to their children and the hearts of children to their fathers, end quote.

What we need is a deep conviction, arising from the gospel, that fathers ought to love their generations, make sacrifices for them, and plant trees whose shades and fruit they will never enjoy, but which their great grandchildren will. The King's Hall Podcast exists to make self-ruled men rule well and win the world.

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C

Welcome to this episode. Of the King's Hall Podcast.

B

Wow.

C

Joined today, Brian Silvay.

B

Well I am joyctual.

C

This is a serious show, Brian.

B

It is. It is. And I want that to reflect.

C

Very seriously.

B

I want that to reflect in the tone of our voices right now. Yes. You know, I just need to, what was the word that you kept saying? I just need to process.

C

I am prompt.

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How serious we are right now.

C

This is also I don't know if people know this. This is a show that is mainly, I would say, geared towards boomers.

B

Our biggest fan base. Yes. And we definitely. Oh, a hundred percent.

C

And it's better if they're boomer women.

B

Boomer women who actively engage in political public commentary. That is our core audience.

C

Yeah.

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So sound off if that's you.

C

You know how if it uh you probably don't, but if you're like watching a sports game, sports ball

B

I I I don't but

C

Yeah, it's what the cool kids do. Okay. But when in the old days when I used to watch those

B

Yeah, back in the day.

C

Before I was uncultured. When they would transition to the new game and they were like, The uh if you're joining us from this other game, we should do that, but it's like if you're now joining us after listening to Ali Beth, then welcome to the show.

B

Because it's a smooth transition. It is. It is. Yeah. I the main emotion that I'm feeling right now though is not calm or dignity. It is Really frustration. Why? Because I remember the first time I read that article. Yeah. The total boomer luxury article uh communism article. And it's one of those things where you you knew a lot of like the broad outlines. But when somebody puts numbers to it and they show you that, man, for all of our talk of being like, we're small government conservatism.

Not like those commies in China, and then you're like, you mean like the people who are less communist than us when it comes to these things?

C

That was actually shocking, that statistic, right? That we spend

B

Six times.

C

Yeah, it was six times as much as China on welfare programs.

B

Per person and we're three times wealthier. So we're It it would make some kind of sense at least if we spent just proportionally more to how wealthy we are, but we spend double that again. Yes. Like that's just wild. And we and we think like there's this narrative that Yeah, conservatives are way in a small government and

You know, they're just they're really v they're very careful, physically careful. They're not like those commies over in China, but then you're like, actually, we are basically just communists.

C

Yes. It's also this idea, I think, that it's coming off the backs of young people. Yeah. And and it's supporting the boomers. As we get into that, before we get into that, somebody who doesn't believe in total boomer communism. Joe Garrett.

B

Joe Garrett doesn't. That's true.

C

And that's why we like him. Backwards planning financially.

B

We do. Big thanks to uh Joe for sp being a sponsor of this episode and of a lot I mean, just been a great sponsor of what we do here at New Christendom and is big into trying to talk people out of living that life of, yeah, I mean, like how many times, how many cruises can I fit in in a year and and try to time it so that I die spending my last dollar?

C

Here's the cool thing about the

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Don't give anything to my kids.

C

cool thing about the cruises though if you put them on your credit card

B

Uh-huh. Okay.

C

Listen up boomers. If you put them on your credit card. And then you get let's say you get some points.

B

Yeah.

C

Then you can use that point money to send a special gift to your kids on their birthday.

B

This is a terrible idea. You could use it. No, you could use it to actually fly your dog with you on your next. Okay.

C

I...

B

Fly your small dog with you on your next

C

No no no you check them into the pet hotel. That's part of the

B

Okay, like five star pet hotel.

C

Yeah, it's full circle.

B

Okay, I I I'm so I'm following now.

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Follow me on this. It's it's interesting cause uh a lot of this article, uh which we'll get into um It for me, it really comes back to some of the basic biblical principles. So the first one that that I wanted to talk about, Proverbs 13:22. I'm gonna read this, Brian.

B

Yeah, what's here?

C

It says a good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children, but the sinner's wealth is laid up for the righteous. I don't have an MDiv. I have like part of one. I feel like I'm following.

B

You have like an M D. Or you have a dip.

C

MD. MD.

B

Yeah. No, you definitely don't have an M D. This is not medical advice. Eric is not a doctor.

C

Actually there is a man in the church who refers to me as Doctor Khan, so

B

Is there really? Yeah. For what possible?

C

I have no idea. It makes me feel special though.

B

I mean, yeah, I can see that.

C

Brian, you you've studied some theology here.

B

Yeah.

C

Uh this is one where you do have to actually know the Hebrew.

B

Yeah, you really have to.

C

Yeah. You gotta you gotta dial this in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But just walk me through this. Like Based on what we're talking about, what should, if you're an older generation, you've been working hard, you've been saving money, how should you be leveraging your wealth?

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Yeah, I mean th think about the core duties that fulfill the law. What is it that actually fulfills the law? Well love fulfills the law. What actually is love? Well, love is is the the giving of your strength and of yourself and of your resources for the highest earthly and heavenly good of the object of your love. That's what actually love is. And it involves affections, it involves A disposition of benevolence towards somebody. Like I actually have a

a feeling of love for somebody. And it's love actually is a f it in involves a feeling. I'm not saying it's just an action. But out of that action and disposition, it then gives itself for the sake of some object. So

You just apply that to the duties, the natural normal duties that God built into the world of a father to his children and to his children's children. And and really on down, because in blessing one generation and teaching them to bless their generations, you bless all the generations. Of course you wouldn't just want to serve yourself.

But you would want to look to the absolute perfect model of the head of a home, which is Christ, according to Ephesians five, twenty two to thirty three, this mystery that's now revealed in Christ, that marriage is actually a picture of the gospel. What did Christ do?

He gave himself for his bride. And and what comes from the the bride? Everything. Like the the union of the of the husband and wife. That is where fruitfulness comes from. That's where the children come from. So he he gives his strength in his very self, his blood for

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His people.

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So just take that and apply it to literally every part of your life, and you'll never run out of things to do as a father. Uh, and one of those things is certainly that you should want to economically bless your children. You should want to bless them with the financial resources and the wisdom to leverage those financial resources so that they too can be not a black hole of self-centeredness and how much uh, you know, small pleasures can I wring out of this world.

But how many great pleasures can I pursue? The pleasures of loving my people, the pleasures of leaving an inheritance, the satisfaction of a job well done, the satisfaction of hearing the Lord say, Well done, good and faithful servant. You've loved the Lord, you've loved your people, you've left an inheritance of faith and wisdom and finances. So it's like we could go on forever, but really fundamentally the f the frame that everyone needs to think in is what are what are the demands of love.

in my life, in the office that I have. And as a father, you certainly have large demands in the economic world for the for the object of your love, your children, your wife, your generation.

C

Yeah, we've often talked about this leaving uh an inheritance in kind of three ways. Uh I think it's faith, wealth, and culture. Um so faith obviously we want to pass on um a love for Christ.

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Greatest wealth.

C

in all of this and and a robust faith that is touching all things in life, that sort of thing. Uh culture. Mm-hmm. So I you know, I'm just thinking of Ogden, some of the things that make, you know, Sauvey culture. in your home. Yeah. Right. Like there's joy. We we we love a certain kind of people. We're trying to make people uh in that image. And then this is kind of the missing piece I think for a lot of people, but also wealth.

B

Yeah, absolutely.

C

a lot of it can be it doesn't necessarily mean that you die. I don't even think it should mean this, that you die and you just give like a lump sum.

B

Mm no. That's not the main goal.

C

You're thinking more like especially w we we think of our boys, you know? We're thinking of well, I wanna start businesses and I wanna have productive places for them to work'cause it's one thing to receive, you know, let's say you could give a kid a hundred thousand dollars. Yeah. But what if you could give him a job that paid that every year? Exactly.

B

And it kept him rooted in a place. Yes.

Overcoming Selfishness and Cultivating Generosity

C

Do you think uh going back to the the boomer side of this equation, I've actually been encouraged. I've seen a lot of older generations say, No, we're not gonna do that. Yes. And they've been convicted on this. It seems like one of the things that you have to overcome The luxury thing is fundamentally uh you know, Colossians would refer to it just as the things of the world.

That's right. Um and and so there's a whole list of kind of sins there. Maybe it's selfishness, maybe it's a love of comfort and ease.

B

Yeah, yeah.

C

Like if we're preaching and we're s we're saying to the older generations, what do you gotta address? Yeah.

B

You're looking at putting to death what is earthly in you. And and that doesn't mean tangible created that the created world God made is bad, but it's talking about the created world in its fallenest state and our fallen flesh and the desires that it has not to love God and love our neighbor, but to love itself. And so it's covetousness, it is a love of uh comfort and ease, it is the hoarding of strength and resources for self.

And I do, I agree. I see many, many um older generations who are awake to these things. And to be fair, I don't want them to hear us say like, All of you chose for this to be the state of affairs.

C

Right.

B

You guys had a vote and it was like you decided that I want FDR to do the new deal and then I want everything that and I want Reagan and I a lot of my parents, for example, they're like, Oh yeah, if we could hit the button, they're like, if you hit this button, it's gonna destroy social security. And they'd be like, you know, they'd be they'd be hitting that button. Yeah. Even though m my dad ha as a godly Christian man, he's had to factor in social security into planning to take care of

my mom, his wife, and um his inheritance plan. None of it was his call necessarily, and there are lots of boomers in that world, but they certainly do have to change their mindset. from how can I get the most ease and like, well, I've worked hard and now it's me time. Mm-hmm. And they actually need to understand that the goal of of s of Love, including self-denial, is actually much greater pleasures for them than the cheap and thin pleasures of

How many vacations can I fit in? And just to use my parents as a good example of this, um My my mom and dad are aware of a lot of these dynamics. You know, they're they're thinking about them. My dad and I talk regularly about inheritance and how he would like to of course in the right order fulfill his obligations. Like his number one really is to take care of my mom and to make sure that she makes it

To her last day, not destitute and depend but but then I can step in and say, Dad, even if something happens, mom is taken care of. I'm taking care of mom. Me, you know, my brother and I and my sis we're taking care of mom. But then how can I bless And he's thinking not just of his children, my brother, my sister and I, but of our his grandchildren, his like the proverb says, his children's children. And so he's

Because he's an engineer, he has a spreadsheet. He's like, this is how I'm thinking about in here. And we've talked about it a lot, and it's great. But also, and much more importantly to me, and he knows this. We're not so much like, how much money can you leave the children, my children and your children's children when you die? That's great. But how can we maximize you giving them the greater gifts now?

Of your presence, of your wisdom, of involvement in their life, of yeah, and he's financially helped us even in uh ways through the years to make sure that we can get established and love his children's children now. Um but one thing he does constantly now, and they they've they've done especially since my dad like second retired. He's

He's retired several times at this point because he's a hard worker. And uh but he's constantly, I mean at least once a week, like, Hey, can I can I pick up these two boys this week and they can help me build this cabinet I'm working on?

C

Or

B

Something like that. Or can we go to the dump, which is basically like Disneyland for a four four year old, you know? And uh

C

Those are my best memories as a kid.

B

I would if I had to choose between a million dollars and that, I would choose that. Yeah. No question. And so the good man is he's thinking through all these things. And what's what's wild is that there's a way in which my dad is denying himself to do that because he's he's not like, How many cruises can I go on? How many times can I go do whatever? And he has hobbies and whatnot.

But what he's getting is like it's such a gift. It's such a joy. He gets to see his children's children. Do you know how many people die of cancer and never see their grandchildren? Do you know how many people their children don't have children? Like It's such a mutual blessing when you do it right, when love binds ever like this, Paul says love binds everything together in perfect harmony is how he puts it in scripture.

That's what it's talking about. From heaven to earth, horiz vertically, horizontally amongst the generations of people. There's such harmony. And that's really what I want to win people to is not even like here's the strategy that's going to work for every single person to leave the perfect threading of the needle on inheritance. I actually just want to enculturate people. to love the right things.

And then I think they will figure it out how to thread the needle in a lot of ways in their actual circumstance and situation. I want them to love their grandchildren, love their children, want to bless them, want to help establish them. n put to death this very stupid idea of like, well if I help'em then they won't develop on their own. Stupid. God made the generations to work together.

C

I think a lot of this, um, you know, I've I've talked with Adam Madden um and we'll have a book coming out on the productive household. Um he started businesses. Um my oldest is a part of that, uh married into the family there. Um, but it's also really cool because if you work alongside your children, you're also giving them that work ethic. Yeah. So that actually solves that question of well, what if they're lazy?

B

Well, That did you make lazy kids?

C

And and teaching them work ethic. The other thing I think is cool, I've seen older people who've listened to this show and they've done some creative things. Like they're they're already at the point where they were on social security. Yeah. And they had planned their whole life for that. So I don't fault them for

B

And they paid a bunch of money.

C

For you know, many, many years of working career. But they did creative things. Like one gentleman was telling me He said, Yeah, we actually we moved into sort of like a mother in law suite. Mm-hmm. He's like, We're two old retired people. Yeah. And my wife helps with the care of the children.

uh for one of our kids and we're around'em all the time and we pay them rent and it's really supplementing their household and and and we're helping with all these things. So we're taking that money and we're reinvesting it. So cool. In our people. And I thought, well, that's a really creative way actually to do that sort of thing. Um, it's also interesting as you think about Um a lot of these principles take a lot of planning and preparation.

Like so a lot of people I think when we've received feedback and Q and A and stuff like that. Where where it's cool to just see people start thinking about it. Mm-hmm. And so just to encourage people, what would happen if you just started praying about it? Yeah. And saying, What are some ways that I could leverage whatever wealth I have, whatever time I have? Yep.

Political Failures and Intergenerational Frustrations

Well one thing that's interesting too, because this article was kind of about golf. And uh some of the places we golf are like um retirement villas. And so you see a lot of old people. But I went one time uh to a local course and I saw a grandpa playing with I think they were like his three grandsons. And I was like, s even something like that, it doesn't mean that you can't enjoy golf.

A

Exactly.

C

It but there is a way to do that that is like, no, I'm gonna teach my grandsons how to golf.

B

yep and

C

Man, what a memory to create with grandpa. Yeah.

B

There's a policy side of this that is a mess.

C

Yes.

B

And we need to fix that. We need younger generations are seeing this and they need to demand of their politicians and their political leadership accountability on some of these things and real fixes. Be it and that's why it is important for us to see the things that really should make us angry in this article, for example, about the government policy where f fiscal conservatives are actual communists. Like they're they're actual communists and they're

C

Doing luxury.

B

They're luxury time. And they're doing it. Very straightforwardly, because the boomer voting block is so powerful and it will continue to dominate politics for for at least the next five, ten years. It's gonna it's gonna I mean, it's like gonna be the twenty thirties before the boomer generation becomes

insignificant enough that maybe other political concerns. But that's why this is happening. It's the bribery of What the founders warned about that as soon as the people realize that as soon as the the politicians realize that they can bribe the people with their own money. Then it's the it's the death of the system in principle. That's what's been happening. So there's the political side where we really need to figure this out and say, let's stop being communists.

Let's stop subsidizing the extravagant luxury boomer communism of the elderly generation in these governmental policies and doing so by taxing the yo the young in in in ways where they are so unlikely to ever be able to receive the same level of government benefit when it's their turn, that's what's so deeply unjust about it. Right. And so there's that side of it.

C

Yeah, and just to speak to that, I I I think a lot of the frustrations between younger generations and the boomers They actually are downstream from those institutional policies. Yes. So it's not just that like some young kids just look at grandpa and say, Wow, he has a lot and I don't and there's envy. It's actually again downstream from the legal system and and while we can have these individual solutions, you have to change policy.

B

You actually have to change policy. Even the the way that this is paid for is via taxation, not just direct taxation, but the hidden taxation of inflation. So when you have a Trump administration that's expanding our national debt by two or three trillion dollars in the first year. That is stealing from especially the younger generations, especially when they say that one of the reasons they're not going to address.

Inflation and housing prices, and do make policy changes that might affect the value, for example, the inflated value of homes is because that would. Harm boomers who are such a powerful voting block. You're actually just telling the young generations, we literally don't care about you.

C

Well, I I don't know if you saw any of the clips from the it was like the Steve Bannon, Jeffrey Epstein. Uh they're old, obviously, but um he Steve was asking him, Do you think that most Americans should own homes? Uh uh and he was like, No.

And then you create all this policy where it makes it very hard to to uh you know, buy a home. Yeah. Well the reality is if it's really hard to buy a home, you have a pink collar economy where it's very hard for men to get jobs, they've I've I've looked at a lot of research on this. The n

It's like by by and large, men are the number one determinant for whether families get started. So if the wife has a job, doesn't matter, families aren't getting started. If the man has a a quality job and he he can buy a home, families get started. So if if you actually and our of course our elites don't want this, but if you actually wanted to grow the country, have healthy families

Those are the sorts of things you would have to do. Make it more affordable to buy a home. Provide better blue collar, you know, and manufacturing those sorts of jobs. Unfortunately, a as you said, the ruling elites don't want this.

B

Mm mm.

C

They actually want you to be a serf. You own nothing. You have no privacy.

B

Yeah, nothing.

C

And the nanny state takes care of you. This is also part of the problem, these voting blocks. Another one of the biggest ones is single woke females. Yes. I think they're like second only to like blacks as an individual voting block.

B

Thank you.

C

And guess what? They've they're single women, so they vote for the state as daddy.

B

Mm-hmm.

C

Like take care of me. More handouts, more welfare, that sort of thing. Um, one thing that could happen.

Honoring Parents While Charting New Course

is that people hear this, especially a lot of young men. Mm-hmm. And they get really frustrated. Yeah. And we've seen this in real time where they start taking that out in conversations with their parents every single time they see them. Yeah. And so pastorally, I'm just I there's been a a lot of conversations, but what do we typically tell people?

B

Yeah, you you have to think of the fifth commandment, honoring your father and mother. recognizing the the weakness of the human frame, like recognizing the The extent to which they participated in, maybe, but also didn't actively participate in the creation of this system, extent to which they're unwitting recipients of this government largesse. Just recognizing what would you have done differently in their situation and and would you really?

And would you have had the power to do that? Understanding the right enemy is important in this conversation, but also recognizing that whenever God commands us to honor somebody. a human being. He is commanding us to honor somebody who fundamentally does not deserve perfect honor. Right. Like whenever a uh uh when when God instructs a woman to receive that you respect your husband, obey him, honor him, submit to him in everything.

It's a it's a tall order. Um he is commanding her to do that, knowing that the husband is imperfect and knowing that the husband's gonna sin, he's gonna fall short, his leadership's not gonna be perfect, he's gonna make mistakes. Her submission to that command is fundamentally and and ultimately a submission and honor to God who appointed that authority. So when we think about honoring our parents.

And maybe I'm very thankful that my parents are very honorable in in these in even in these particular things. They are aware and they're thinking through it and they're aiming to bless. Maybe your parents aren't. Maybe your parents are like all of the boomerist boomerisms are just booming out of their boop their mouth. They're booming constantly. I I really do think that there is an aspect that for the good of your soul, that you that it is good to recognize God appointed this exact trial.

for my life. He custom fitted it for me. That I would have parents who are booming at me these very stupid boomerisms. And yet I'm called to honor them. And so I'm going to self-consciously choose that I am not going to try to make it my life's ambition to invert the hierarchy and Um, be the parent and try to convert my parent to every single talking point that I believe about this and why they're wrong about everything.

But instead to find ways to honor them and yes, to call them up and give them as red of a carpet you can roll out to on to honor God themselves. And absolutely there can be opportunities for conversation where you do discuss these things. But man, you have to attempt to do your best to honor them and not to be. Belittling.

C

Or

B

You don't want to be bitter and and the the reality is it won't be it's not likely to be effective.

C

That's the other thing I was gonna say is if you just look at the the very practical aspect, I've I've almost never seen this work.

B

Mm-hmm.

C

Um, but the thing some things that I do think work are as you're raising your family, choosing different, um, being principled, but also being gracious about that, not using it as a bludgeon for your own parents. And a lot of us look, there's a lot of people in our generation who are just in the position where you're probably not going to get the help.

B

Yeah.

C

Uh and fixating on that won't make it better. Yeah. But what you can do is set out and say, like, okay, we're gonna do things different. We still honor Where honor is due. Yeah. And and we're still gonna do that. But we're also gonna make intentional decisions that are actually productive for our children. Yeah. And hopefully set a different course.

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Direct Communication and Pastoral Responsibility

B

Yeah, and and constantly trying to red pill their their boomer parents. A better tactic, really, like where you you do believe that like this if you love your parents, there actually might be a a situation where you're like for your soul. I'm actually concerned about your good. So I want to honor you by even bringing an opportunity for you to hear wisdom that maybe you've never heard before. So do it in the right way. Meaning a son should talk to his father privately.

And honorably and respectfully and directly and give him the courtesy of direct speech. Dad, here's, here's, you know, I've been rolling the red carpet out. I've been really looking for ways to involve you in your grandchildren's lives. I'm trying to give you opportunities to win the glory of Proverbs thirteen, to leave an inheritance to your children's children. And I want you to know that the door is wide open and that it doesn't have to be exactly what I think, but I really do believe.

that it would be good for your soul, good for your generations, for you to do these things. And it's been frustrating because uh my experience has been you seem resistant to it. Let's talk about that. I would really like to have this conversation with you. Not I'm now going to go on Facebook and rant about my parents.

C

Boomers are her way.

B

Yeah. Yeah, I'm not going to go and vaguely subtweet them or even quite overtly like my parents are idiots, they're the luxury boomer communists. idiots, they're this and that. Um, you might feel good doing that, but in especially if you haven't had that conversation with your dad directly.

What are you doing? Yeah. What are you doing? You're out of order. You're not you're not obeying the general patterns of bringing admonition to somebody, especially when you're you're giving admonition up the chain of hierarchy that and God established the hierarchy, not you. So I don't want people to he to hear me say, never tell your parents anything hard. Never have a conversation. Never invite them in. Never even attempt to correct their thinking on something. I don't mean that.

But do it in a way that it is so obvious that you're trying to go out of your way to honor the the fifth commandment, obey the fifth commandment, that it's like you couldn't be mistaken unless somebody willfully mis mis decided to mistake you.

C

Yeah, one of the other areas I think that is uh pivotal is actually the pastoral office. Mm-hmm. Um I think the lay of the land is there's a lot of boomer churches. Yeah. Meaning that maybe the pastor's a boomer, maybe not, but the congregation is. And so I think there's a lot of pastoral cowardice on this issue.

B

Yes.

C

Um, Luke twelve is a good example of this where if you were just even preaching through the gospels, uh we don't necessarily have to read the whole thing, but Luke twelve, you can look this up. Yeah. Um An old man who's sitting on a pile of money, yeah, thinking about inheritance well if he says, I'm gonna basically he says, Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years. Relax, eat, drink, be merry. This is like luxury boomer communism kind of

But God said to him, Fool, this night your soul is required of you in the things you have prepared, whose will they be? So he's actually asking a question like, Do you have an inheritance plan? It's interesting because Jesus addresses this to I think two men who are fighting over who gets the inheritance.

B

Yeah, and he says so the one who lays up treasure for hims so is the one who lays up treasure for himself and is not rich towards God.

C

Right.

B

How do you reach towards God? Well, yeah, sure, by being generous and supporting the ministry of the church, absolutely. But also by obeying what God says to do with your wealth.

C

Yeah, I've always wondered if like maybe the two men in the passage are like the sons of like a guy like this. It's kind of interesting. Yeah. Um, but I think when you look at that and you say, Okay, so Jesus' answer wasn't Okay, go support thirty seven orphanages and fifteen compassion children in in another place. This is actually about inheritance in your generations and your people. Scripture's quite clear. Yes.

So my point with all of that is that I think pastors can do a much better job and be courageous.

B

Yes, absolutely.

C

And and say to the older generations. I want to give an example. Yeah. I was recently at a conference, uh, Pastor Scott Brown, who's an ol he I I'm guessing he's in his seventies. Yeah. Faithful minister for many years, pours into his grandchildren, has thirty of them. And he was talking about the economy and he said, you know, I I know we got a lot of older guys in here. He said, You're watching your son suffer and struggle to make it, and you're not helping? What are you doing?

And and here's a man who's like started businesses. Used even being like manufacturing uh so that his kids could have jobs. Yeah. And he's provided those things for his people. So I I I think also just

Maximizing Service and Community Impact

To put a ball on that, just pastorally. Pastorally, you can just literally preach Luke twelve. And apply that to the older generations.

B

Oh man, absolutely. How and there's a there's like a how dare you moment. How dare you export your manufacturing business to Mexico to save seventeen percent on your uh at the cost of Your brothers, your neighbors not being able to work. Yeah. How dare you seek like there's just a million examples. that apply to men in general, fathers in particular, businessmen in particular, the way that we think about every aspect of our lives, it really should be. I'm not just trying to maximize

profit for me and my sharehol what am I trying to do? I'm actually trying to maximize the service that I can bring to my people.

C

Yeah, and I think a lot of it for grandparents, um, that biblically like you solve obligations to your people. Yeah. Um, this is something that I've appreciated, you know, even your parents, um your in laws, like When I when I see them in the pew helping with the kids and they're involved in in things in the church and like how can we alleviate burdens for these younger people? Yeah. Not just fussing, not just but saying how do we actually serve? We actually have time.

B

Yep, yep, yep.

C

We have time and money to give and so how do we do that? Is such an encouragement.

B

Oh man, I know that my mother in law, if anybody, you know, if she hears someone like, Well, that's you know, that foyer at the church needs to be really cleaned up, she's the first one to be like, Yeah, what time do you want to come over this week? Let's tell the deacons that we're available, we'll go clean it. And not only

C

Did the complaints die?

B

But then it gets cleaned up.

C

Yeah.

B

Let's go. Yeah. It's it's like what an encouragement. to and for for all of us to think that is the attitude and spirit that we need to take. Copy and paste to everything that we do. As we get older, as we think about our generations, it's not just about your literal family. It's also about the family of your church, your community, the way that you interact with work and your legacy there. Yeah. And as we do this,

The blessings multiply and they grow richer around you. And you end up so much more blessed than you otherwise would have. Yeah. You know, I think about your your fa um, your son's father-in-law. Um what what would that be to you? I guess there's not an official title for that office.

C

I've sometimes mistakenly referred to him as my father.

B

Father in law but I know what you mean. Adam, he he' uh Adam Madden, he's writing a book for us. It's gonna be such a It's going to be a good book, not just because of the contents, but because of the man. Because this is the reason even we're like, Hey, will you write a book for us about this? Because he has done such a good job of it in his family. Yeah. Of starting businesses locally.

that he can train up his own children and you know, even like in the case of his daughter, the h the man who marries his daughter, your son. to take over and learn and run these businesses and have ownership in them. And then here's a job like it seems so benevolent and it really is. Like I don't wanna detract from that. But it's also tricksy.

'Cause you're like you're like, hm, I want all of my children to be able to have lots of grandchildren so that I can play with them and like hang out with them and like see chubby toddlers that are my grandchildren and get them Christmas presents that make too much noise. And so, and I want them to be close. So how do I do this? And then you scheme and you like, I could start businesses.

C

And it's beautiful because you're like, wait a minute. If I totally bless my generations, I could be a part of their lives.

B

If the Lord lets me live long enough, like I could I could be surrounded by chubby toddler grandchildren.

C

Yeah.

B

This could work. This this nefarious plot could work. And then it does. Like it.

C

But it's great I've asked Adam like'cause you know, he's got a his son and my son, you got different guys running businesses. But he'll still participate in them. Mm-hmm. And I was asking him'cause his his son, you know, they've had paternity leave and so dad's filling in. I said, How is that, you know, working? Uh, you know, you gotta go into the workplace. And he said, Man, I just love my kids.

I want to work with them. Yeah. I want to see them. I want to check in with them. I want to I wanna see what's going on in their life. Yeah. And I was like, wow, that it's just such a great picture. Yeah. And so here's this crazy deal. Th obviously love your people. I'm gonna say this, like your people.

B

Yes, enjoy them.

C

Yeah, enjoy being around them. Um and that's crazy to say, but a lot of people don't.

B

It's wild. When you like people you want to be around. Like even think about in a business context. Cause the fathers, the office of father can apply to multiple things. You see Paul even apply it to the office of pastor when he says that you have, you know, lots of this, but you don't have you don't have many fathers. Okay. So

A father can be a business owner that sincerely cultivates a love. Yeah, it tries to employ his family and children and whatnot, but there's gonna be if you're successful business, you probably employ more than just your immediate family at some point. And if you cultivate an affection for the people that work for you and you won you really seek their good, then when it comes time and you're thinking about like, what was the top line profit of our business this year?

And how are we gonna what are we gonna we're gonna reinvest here? Are we gonna hire somebody? Are we gonna do raises? Are we gonna what what is it are we gonna cash a check as a business owner and and you know, go on a cruise? What what's it gonna be? When you have an affection for the people that work for you.

it it changes the way you think about that calculus. Yeah. Because you suddenly go, Ah, you know what? I really want that family to do well. I want them to be able to have, you know, to buy that house and Yeah, have that they're they're in that two bedroom apartment right now and they got two kids and like three, you know, three on the way. They wanna have more. What could I do to bless them?'Cause I really like them. I like I like being around them. I want them to do well.

And you th there's a way in which you can think like we're gonna be so much more profitable if we could just be really lean and bonuses or whatnot. And the stupid thing is you end up making your own life miserable and destroying everything when you do that.

C

You're cutting off your own feet.

B

Red Robin is a great example of uh the food chain, the restaurant. I don't know if they're everywhere, but there's there was one here. It's I think it's still here. They've been through like some seventeen CEOs or something since the founding CEO or like the the really long tenured CEO left. And they kept doing stupid stuff to try to please the shareholders. And it's a publicly traded company. So they they're like, we're gonna fire all of the bus boys.

All of the staff that would like clean tables and whatnot were gonna like optimize so the waiters do that and this and the other thing. And all of a sudden, like wait times went up and Then it, you know, basically the company tanked. And I think it went from like a hundred plus dollars a share to like two dollars and eighty-seven cents.

C

Boy.

B

Meanwhile, Chili's is like absolutely killing it.

C

I'm bringing it.

B

It's coming back to the game. And it was bec what's funny is they made like opposite type of decisions where they spent more money on some of the people and Uh both of them probably had hugely problematic globalist capitalist issues and they're full of seed wells and there's a million things wrong with them. But the th the thing that the Red Robin people thought they were going to do

Spend less, we're gonna be this much X percent more efficient. It's gonna look really good on the shareholder news this quarter. And then they promptly destroyed everything. What uh but the companies that consistently companies that take care of their people. They care about the local aspect of the business. They want to like I want my countrymen. I want my neighbors in this city. I want this manufacturing plant to be here. I want there to be good wages for the people.

And yeah, like the top line profitability of the company this quarter and next quarter and the next five quarters, it's gonna look maybe a little thinner. and and and maybe less attractive to a takeover proposition from some, you know, huge hostile buyout or whatever. But those companies just tend to actually do well. When they care about the small things and the actual people. And then the funny thing is, they're way more profitable a lot of the time. I think this works in families too. Yeah.

C

Yeah, absolutely. I mean I was thinking about new Chris and press. We had this decision early on. Are we gonna use, you know, Amazon?

B

Yeah.

C

This is a to fulfill our books. And we were looking at it and we're like, it's like what is it, like seven or eight bucks a book?

B

Yeah, and we we really labored over this decision. Like we debated, we had because everybody does Amazon. It's the whole thing But what it is doing to every business it touches, what Amazon is doing, is atrocious.

C

Yeah.

B

Is terrible. They are trying to drive everybody to the lowest common denominator of profit or of um quality, and they are absolutely screwing over their own like Amazon will You bring in companies, these small businesses that sell on Amazon, they make a product for Amazon.

They see which ones do the best and then Amazon copies it. Everything, because almost nothing's proprietary about a normal business or a product or whatever. They copy it, they slash the prices. Sometimes they sell it at a loss, even until all those other businesses go out of sale, go out of business. It's awful. It's horrible. And I mean like customer service in India, low quality print, like all this stuff.

C

And we looked at that and we were like, Well, we could actually work with the printer to make high quality books. We could ship them from here and we could put that money back into our people. And then you know those people. So you're like, Well, it's my son.

B

I know our warehouse guy.

C

So you're like, Yeah, I I wanna see them flourish. Yeah. So you start making decisions that are made in love, not just on

B

Yeah, and even...

C

Can you imagine y by the way, just like saying to one of your kids Hey, I could have employed you, but what I didn't said, I saved like

B

I saved thirteen percent.

C

On on books. Think about that though. We

B

You know, even this year we've been we've been the the thing about a business too is that you're constantly finding things that you could do better where you're like, I don't like that we did that. I made some album covers and used AI to help make album covers like for the last two albums because like literally it's really expensive to make music. It's not the album cover's not the main thing.

And I'm just looking like and I've made them all to date. Like I all the album covers, I just made them. And I'm not a graphic designer. I'm just like I use PickMonkey. Evan's laughing because it's tr it's like That in it it's a toddler version. I'm like I can't even use Photoshop and uh but I do what I can. And then you go I don't like that we did that. Let's not do that anymore. Let's make the next decision. Okay, we're printing books here.

Can we print them in in America? Yeah, yes, we can do that. So let's talk to this company. Oh, let's actually you know, we had the head of a printing company that we are partnering with even in here in the USA in our office recently. And meeting with Martin. And so it's just it's

Actionable Faith and Intergenerational Living

A lot of the time what people do, and it this sounds like we're not talking about this the same thing as we started, but we are. People let the perfect be the enemy of the good, they start looking at a problem and they do this. They go, Well, I can't fix Social Security, so I can't do anything.

Make a small make the next change. Do the next thing. If you're a business owner, you're like, oh man, my whole business model is reliant on this foreign labor and this thing and that, whatever, and my subcontractors are all, you know, Venezuelans and whatnot. Okay. Do the next thing. Make the next improvement. S make the next investment in the right area and then see if the Lord doesn't bless it. Do the next hard thing. Make the in I can't buy all my children houses.

w the the day the first day of their marriage. Okay, maybe you can't do that. What can you do though?

C

Yes.

B

F and and the the reality is, God didn't make a world where he gave us a bunch of commands that are totally impossible for us to do. So do the next thing. And I this isn't just an input output thing. The Lord is at work in this. Yeah. It's an aspect of faith where we take the next step that looks like maybe this won't work that well or won't do much, but it's something small I can do to obey the Lord.

See if the Lord won't bless it. Yeah. See if the Lord won't actually Oh, I thought that that decision of my business that was like hiring people that are my actual neighbors instead of illegal immigrants was going to make my business 12% less profitable this year. And it was going to like put me on the margins. Weed grew 19% this year. What? See if that won't happen. Yeah. I'm not guaranteeing I'm not a prophet, but I am saying this is how God made the world to work.

C

Yeah.

B

And so so often he does not bless until we step and do the hard thing that looks like it shouldn't work. And then you do it. And then he's like, and now I'm gonna bless it. And it will make no sense. Like the math won't work. So the math will not make sense according to your projections a lot of the time.

C

Yeah, I think about this, um, kind of with book writing. You've been doing music. Uh but I've been writing a book and so I'm thinking This is so much harder than I know there's a lot of people across different spaces in media where they're turning out multiple books a year because they're mostly using using like AI.

B

They're writing books. First of all, can I just take if you're if you're doing that. Where's the why is why are you gay meme? We lost the soundboard.

C

It's got-

B

Come back. Tate, play it. Mister, should I call you Mister? Why are you gay? That's my question to you, anyway. Why

C

Yeah. So I and then and then we look at something and we say, No, we're actually gonna invest the hard work and the research and the time. We're you're you're writing your own songs. Like these are

B

For years.

C

For yeah. Like the for me, like the book writing process has been like, oh my goodness, painstaking, arduous, hours and hours and hours. Yeah. But at the end of the day, I always remember it was a line from Anne Lamotte but she said, When you write a book, make it a love letter to your people. And so what if you did that with your business? What if what if you did that with your social security check?

B

Yeah.

C

And you said this is gonna be for my people.

B

If you what if you pitch to your kids, like, can mom and I move in? Can we sh like to to our shame, my dad worked with a guy. as an engineer in the the military. And this guy's d they were first generation immigrants from Cambodia. And immigration question aside, all that. Just listen to the story. Don't tune out. They're from Cambodia and they had his father had basically almost been killed. under the pole pot genocide.

All right. And so he was imprisoned for a while and this guy come they they get to America. He ends up having to like re earn an engineering degree that he had already gotten in Cambodia or something like that or like Southeast Asia somewhere. And um he they get here and they're not Christians. These are like, I think, Buddhists.

C

Really? Interesting.

B

I'm pretty sure. My dad befriended him and um had been over their house many times. They would and it was like a typical Asian family, like, Oh, you You get good grade. You you la he would say like he had one daughter, he had a couple daughters and he would say like, oh, you know, this one was really good. The other one, she lazy. She no walk hard. She know she don't like math homework. I tell her, you lazy. You know, like, and this is how he sounded. His name is Zoon. And uh he

He um they would his wife would garden and she'd like give us. I remember the big old like zucchinis and stuff from their garden that my dad would bring home because my dad was his boss. And he would bring him gifts and things like that that they grew in their garden. But his parents moved in with them. So his dad, who had been imprisoned in Cambodia, like almost died, came out of prison probably seventy five pounds, like

starving and he said, like, oh, he get out of push, he eat a lot. He eat a lot. But uh because he was almost dead. Their parents moved in with them. And this was just the Norman Asian culture. The parents moved in with them, but it was this the mutually beneficial. The the t the parents were like working hard around the house, helping with kids. And the expectation is like they didn't have a retirement plan. That was their retirement plan.

And they live forever, Asians. They're tiny. They live for like 200 years. So Zoon's dad is like 90s, probably in his 90s or something. And he's still there like gardening, helping with kids, like cooking. But it was just so Pitiful to me that in our culture This like great Christian culture that used to understand these things, and that would have been a totally normal situation.

in our culture, our Anglo Protestant culture. Yeah. For a parent to be like, w retirement, 401k, do you mean moving in with your kids and helping and then they take care of you until you and then they bury you? Like It has become so abnormal for that to happen that I would just challenge people. If you're the older parent or the the grandparent or if you're the the child, make the offer.

If it works in your situation, if there's any way to make it work, maybe it's like we've got this house that's paid off and and like could we figure out a way to to move in and be of service and help? And and integrate in into the family. Do you know what a blessing that would be to everybody? Like you would be blessed, they would be blessed. This was how human beings lived and did it.

C

It's it's funny to me because w we used to do like ministry, S B C ministry to nursing homes. Right. So you'd go and preach and sing some hymns and stuff like this. Um, and they said, make sure to bring kids. And I said, Why? And they said, Well, one of the best things for the health of old people is to be around kids. And it's funny because I've seen this with like my grandparents. They come, they visit. And like the life that is infused from like little people. Yeah.

B

Yeah.

C

And they just think it's hilarious. And the little people are like, Why are you so old?

B

You look weird. Why is your face all covered in red spots? Those are liver spots, son.

C

Grandpa, you look like you're gonna fall down.

B

Yeah.

C

But it's just funny, like when you get them together and it's like It it gives the older generations hope in the future.

B

Sure.

C

And they get to participate in life. It's just really cool. So I think just encouraging people on that front, these things are possible. Yeah, some some conversations have to take place.

B

And it's like I know we're painting a picture and people are like, I would love to do that, but they're not willing, or it just wouldn't work, or I get it. If nothing else, Try to start that now. Try to start your generations the right way. Talk to your children about this when they are young, like mom and dad.

We're gonna help you guys out, get started, and you're gonna expect for mom and dad to live with you. If if that's what the I mean, there's other situations that can work. There's not a one size fits all.

A

But

B

You know, son, you you know, you'd have mom and dad live with you, right? Yeah, of course I would. You you move in with us, you have to be able to do it.

C

For those kids who've grown up with, you know, dad is helping you get started in business and you work together and you're discipling and you're continuing in a in an appropriate way for adult children, you're pouring into them. Mm-hmm. Then when you get older, it's like, well, I have this whole body of love. Yeah. This history where I can look back and say, Wow, look how they loved us.

Defeating Boomer Communism: Personal Action

B

Yeah. How do we defeat total luxury boomer communism or total total boomer luxury? I can never remember. TBL, total boomer luxury communism. How do we k how do we defeat it? There is a government policy side that we need to address. And but here's the reality, guys. My confidence level that it's going to be addressed on a level of policy, apart from the the wheels just coming off the bus, is low.

Like I just think it's probably gonna be insolvency. You see what happens with fiat currencies given enough time at some point.

C

System break.

B

The wheels are gonna come off the bus and it's probably gonna be super painful. And I don't want that. I am not an accelerationist in this front. Like, I don't want all of the things that happen when the wheels really come off the bus in an acceleration. They're bad. I don't want that. However, we may not be able to fix that. I have low confidence.

pretty low confidence overall. But what we can do is we can get our houses in order. And it's gonna be much harder because g we're getting our houses in order in while being robbed in both pockets. Like we've got the government in both their hands are in both of our pockets. And y they're trying to rob you at every turn and like they're teaching you to hate yourself just'cause you're white and they're like you're

They are flooding the world with immigrants and they're like, Hey, let's import a you know what? The birth rate's not supporting total boomer luxury communism anymore. Let's import a class of slaves. That's what their immigration policy is. That's what they're doing to keep the inflation machine going.

Okay, they're doing all of that. I know it sucks. We experience it every time. We pay taxes. We live in this world. We're trying to make it too with lots of kids and all this stuff. But what can we do to get our house in order? How can we work together with our parents, with our children, with our brothers and sisters in the church? And how can we? Relentlessly insist that love be the thing that drives us.

C

Yeah.

B

If we do that and we do it in faith, I have a wild degree of confidence that the Lord will bless. I just do. I have a wild degree of confidence. This may be why we are the way that we are. Cause I just think in Ogden we have a wild degree of confidence that that God will do stuff if we just try.

C

Just be bold.

B

And a lot of times we figure out we were doing it kind of wrong, like some of the time for a while. And God was still blessing it. And you're like, but we were doing it wrong. And then he's like, I know you're kind of an idiot. Like you're my silliest soldier. But

But we were doing it genuinely before God because we wanted to do something good. We wanted to obey the Lord. We wanted to love our people. And so even when we didn't do it right, and we're probably still not doing it right in 10, 15 different ways. I just have this wild degree of confidence that God will bless it. Even if it's hard and there will be setbacks and you know, blah, blah, blah. But it's that to me is kind of what.

f faith looks like in a nutshell, it is a wild degree of confidence that God is your father, he is love, and he's completely for you. And so even though he's gonna discipline you because he loves you, and it might be hard and things might suck, neither famine nor nakedness, nor death, no, nor sword, nor any such thing can separate us from the love of God. And so why not just try?

The War for Normal Conference Details

C

It's a great word. Uh one of the things I want to ask you about as we close, and then you can kind of, you know, do the whole speak into the camera, you know.

B

Look at him and say Have you thought about my cut enough lately?

C

I definitely

B

Not because you chose to.

C

Not by choice. Not by choice at all. Uh but I want to ask you about the conference. One of the things that we're trying to do this year, uh the war for normal. Yes. Uh we are recovering the Christian household. We are, you know, we're worshiping as a community. We're doing these everyday normal things. Uh again, I I was just inspired recently, the Scott Brown He said something really I mean, pivotal, you know, radical, that was the thing. That was the whole thing.

He was like, you know, one of the dumbest things we told Christians forever was like, Be radical. Like go start an orphanage, go be a missionary. And he was like and the thing that we missed was what Christians did for centuries, which was love your families.

It is the cradle of the nation. It is the seminary of the nation. It's a small commonwealth. Love your people well. And so right now in this current political cultural moment, I know people are going in a million different directions. Mm-hmm. I keep coming back to this and Scott said this. He said, Trust me as someone who has been walking and fighting in this race for a long time. Build your house on the rock, and it is the word of God. Yeah.

So that's what we're trying to do at the conference. I think it's gonna be really encouraging for people. Yeah.

B

Yes, we are aiming to and like this is kind of we've been thinking about this for the last literally the last year. Um, since the last conference actually is where a lot of these things started to we were just talking about and we've we've talked about how Steven Wolf and some of the conversations with him at the conference shaped the seeds of this conference, um the war for normal. W you just look out and you see a lot of difficult

difficult, thorny, complex, bitter, divisive, horrible, no good, dirty, rotten. Like there's just a bunch of bad stuff out there. And it's easy to bet to blackbill. It's also easy to get into a race to the bottom, like to get into a race to um w what it there's a lot of contr there's a lot of edgy and controversial political stuff that's that's pressing and important and and actually I think

the political theory conversation is very, very important. But in the whole thing, We've just come back to over and over. All of it is worthless if we don't get the foundations right of our churches and our families and ourselves before God. If we don't actually figure out positively what does a human being look like, what is a good man look like? What does a good woman look like? What does a good marriage look like? What does it mean to parent your children? If we don't just

get these foundations set correctly in faith, then we are all absolutely screwed. And it like the Lord will work, but it it will be not through us. So we've been think just h how can we do that? What are the what are the leadership principles? What are the pastoring principles? What are the marriage and family principles? What are the business principles? What are the intergenerational inheritance principles? What are the things that we need to take hold of with that wild confidence?

That the Father loves to bless his people. What what are those things? And that's what this conference is aimed at. And so, yeah, I mean, look, we've been known to to get get down and dirty in the in the whole political debate. We've been known to do that and I stand by it. I stand by ev I stand by it all. Someone's gonna clip me in it. This you and be like, that was me, and that was a banger. You know, absolutely. We've been known to, I don't know, get ourselves protested by Antifa.

Uh, for certain things said at this table recently. Yes, we we stand by them. Um, those are all important issues.

C

Yeah, you say'em, I get blamed for.

B

Yeah, exactly. It's just as nature improved.

C

Work.

B

It's the

C

Circle.

B

Circle of circle of I don't know.

C

Derangements and

B

Um of Eric's problems. They all start with me. You know what? Someone with their own AI portrait of themselves, Stonewall Jackson has very little room to talk about. Yeah, that is actually true. We're we're thinking about these things. I'm completely lost my train of thought, but you know, we're just saying how can we

The conference is is going to maybe a letdown for for someone who's like, let's, you know, figure out how to solve our all of the problems of immigration. Ah, we're n are probably not gonna do that. But what we are gonna try to do is say everybody in this room right now, the you you're like our people. We're thinking the same thoughts, we're looking at the same problems. What can we do?

What can we do right now to make uh our war the war for normal, the war for a world that is normed by God's norms? And yes, that has political implication, has all sorts of implication, but it has massive implication for the way that we live our lives as men and women before God in c in in community and in families with one another. So let's figure that out. And the reality is.

I think we have a lot of work to do there. I think there's I think there's enough work right now to be going on with that. So let's you know, let's get busy working there.

C

Yeah. And I think even on the political think about this. If you're gonna be involved in the political biblically, what is the requirement? That your family's in order.

B

That's right.

C

So you gotta do that anyway. So we wanna help people do that. Uh there's a website.

B

The war for normal dot com. Yeah, the war for normal dot com. Visit visit, check it out. And um we would love to to just not only hopefully put on great talks and we have some good, you know, really great speakers lined up that we're excited about, but also Um, really just be friends, make friends, make new we we've seen everything from new businesses to new marriages start from the conference.

And that's not a testimony to our scheming greatness. Like that's just the Lord's providence. That's how he does it. You put your sales up, you go meet people, you put yourself out there, you aim to love other people and be of service, and then the Lord blesses you and gives you new friendships that last for life. They happen in these kind of contexts. So come Thursday. Uh and

sign up for one of the things happening there. We'll have a family day that morning, um, like at the park where especially moms and kids can go hang out and play and dads too, of course. Um, at the same time there'll be a golf tournament, which is it we love playing golf, but the main reason we do is'cause it's one of the best ways to just hang out and be friends.

That's one of the reasons it's a four man scramble. So it's not like who's the best golfer. It's it's teams of four players. Put your team together. If you don't have enough people, we'll pair people and and h you'll probably make some lifelong friendships that way. Uh, come play the golf tournament. And New Christendom Games, Thursday afternoon, uh to the evening. Uh we'll have like an Olympic sport competition of new cr of our people.

Crown Victors, Ben and I will be commentating, so you know it'll be highly professional commentary. Very few Your Hon jokes, like completely polished. Eric will be commissioning. He'll be there in his big suit. They'll be walking around just like smoking a cigar or something.

C

Oh yeah.

B

Yeah. Looking important and being important, quite frankly. Um, what else do we we've got um

C

You mentioned the singles mixer.

B

Sir, I'm putting on a concert uh this year. When is this episode coming out roughly? Okay, perfect. May A so you guys already know about this, but Right now I'm in the process as we record this to um finalize details on a fundraiser for my album that I've been working on. It is not made by AI, it is clanker free certified, made by humans. When you hear a fiddle, this is the crazy thing. It's a person who played a fiddle.

It's wild. It's a huge crazy idea I had. What if we made music with instruments and just recorded them? and then played them for people. So that's what it is.

C

Yeah.

B

Way complicated. One of the reasons one of the things that that means is that I literally will have spent like$25,000 by the time the album comes out paying real people that I think are worth paying. um to produce and play and help make the album great sing and I've been writing these songs in some cases for years and I believe they are

good and true and beautiful and will help hide those things in your heart and we become what we consume and what we behold. I think that's true musically, so I hope that they're a blessing to you. If you can chip in if you want, you don't have to. You can just go stream it for free by the time it's out. But my my goal is that it will be launched the week of the conference. That's my aim.

publicly everywhere. Um, but also there'll be a vinyl, there'll be a bunch of ways that you can participate. The if it's not already claimed, there is a like for our real patrons out there, if you're like, I don't know, one of those Barons of like if you're a coal magnate or something. A coal magnate? I don't know. Uh there is a tier uh on the fundraiser where you can just fund the whole album and I literally give you the guitar that I wrote the album on.

My Taylor five seventeen E, which is like a three thousand dollar guitar. So it's like That's a real tier. That's real. Yeah. That's the that's the fun the album tier. I mean, like it's probably not gonna happen.

C

I'll sign the guitar.

B

Eric will not sign the guitar. That's my guarantee. Unless you want him to. It will come with a certificate of authenticity that it's that guitar. So if you care about that, I don't think I'm actually important enough for that to be a just LARPing here, but LARP your way into reality. That's what we always say. That's what we say. Um that it will be at my website, Brian Sovae dot com slash

Um short years. Short years. Yeah. So you can go chip in a couple bucks or fun the whole album and get a guitar.

C

It's my whole life, the short years.

B

Yeah, long days, short years is the name of the album. I'll be putting on a concert. Um, and then stick around if you can through Sunday. The conference is all day Friday, all day Saturday. We've got the Thursday devoted to being friends and hanging out.

And then Sunday we'd if you can make it and and hang out, stay for church. We we'll do it at the venue so that everybody can fit our church and all the visitors. And then we have a barbecue like a potluck in the park on Sunday afternoon. And then Lord bless you and you can Head on home the next day, hopefully, or whenever is convenient. But uh it's just a great time. Like these conferences. I am not a big conference guy. I don't think either of us are. No.

Like I don't speak at a lot of them. I say no to most invitations and we don't

C

No, just don't get invited. If you can imagine

B

I just have a lot of kids and I like being with them and I like my wife, so I usually say no. And uh Also, y I'm not saying I get invited to a lot of conferences. Right. But um I have been amazed at how much fun and how the fruit that comes from it.

C

That's amazing. Friendship. Like genuine.

B

Genuinely like it.

C

They're trying to do it.

B

They're fun for all the stuff that happens. That's what they are. But They have been so much more than that in ways that's hard to explain. Yeah. Come if you want. You don't have to. We'll still keep putting out the King's Hall here on the YouTube in the wherever else displays. But

C

Yes.

B

Awesome. Love to have you there.

Patreon Support and Episode Close

C

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B

Yeah, absolutely.

C

So thank you guys for all your support. We'll catch you in the next episode.

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