In this conversation, Brian and Cory discuss the importance of coaching in disciple-making. We highlight the distinction between instructive coaching and disciple-making coaching, which focuses on asking open-ended questions and facilitating learning and reflection. We emphasize the value of ongoing coaching in sustaining and supporting disciple-makers, as well as the need for startup coaching to initiate new movements. We also discuss the benefits of group coaching and the importance of creatin...
May 14, 2024•31 min•Ep. 211
Cory and Brian continue the conversation around creating lightweight, agile structures for ordinary people exploring multiplication. Our conversation revolves around the topic of multiplication in the context of microchurches. The main areas we explore today are launching new leaders, starting new discovery groups, and launching new microchurches. We emphasize the need for flexibility and creativity in these processes and highlight the significance of fostering a sense of family and belonging in...
May 07, 2024•38 min•Ep. 210
In this episode, Brian and Rob discuss the concept of building light agile structures within organizations and microchurches. We explore the importance of flexible grammar and the need for organizations to be willing to restructure in response to emergent practices. We introduce the concept of the Lightload Leader Starfish, which emphasizes the importance of organic systems and circle cells in building agile structures. We also discuss the Kansas City Underground as an example of embodying light...
Apr 30, 2024•43 min•Ep. 209
In this conversation, Brian and Cory discuss observation number 10 from twofoureight.org. In this episode we talk about building simple and agile structures and tools in urban disciple making movements. We explore the idea of creating light, flexible organizational structures and teams that reflect together, innovate, and apply emergent practices. We emphasize the importance of adaptability and the need to iterate and adjust strategies based on the context and the leading of the Holy Spirit. We ...
Apr 23, 2024•32 min•Ep. 208
Cory and Brian hang with Gui Fadlalla and discuss the importance of finding the few who can reach the many in disciple-making. They share personal stories and experiences, highlighting the need for depth and soul care in the process. Gui talks about his work in using soccer as a tool for ministry and equipping coaches to be disciple-makers. The conversation emphasizes the shift from a fast-paced approach to a more intentional and focused investment in a few individuals.
Apr 16, 2024•34 min•Ep. 207
Haley Miller and Cory Ozbun discuss the work of Zero Hour, the student arm of Kansas City Underground, in equipping high school students to live as disciple-makers in their schools. They emphasize the importance of focusing on the few to reach the many and the need for students to have a team and mentor to support them in their mission. They also highlight the unique challenges and opportunities of reaching the post-Christian generation and share stories of the fruit and transformation they have...
Apr 09, 2024•39 min•Ep. 206
Cory and Brian introduce the topic of focusing on the few to reach the many in the context of urban movements and everyday life. It emphasizes the importance of thinking strategically in urban contexts due to their complexity and the need to find the few who can replicate and reach others. The conversation also highlights the role of catalyzers and disciple-makers in the process, and the need to balance the desire for impact with personal capacity. The main takeaway is to know and invest in the ...
Apr 02, 2024•35 min•Ep. 205
Summary This conversation explores the topic of urban disciple-making movements and how to mobilize the local church. The guest, Pete Kirwan, shares his role at New City, a church in Kansas City, and how they have adapted traditional church models to focus on decentralized, full-week adaptable gathering place disciple-making structures. The conversation highlights the vision of New City for gospel saturation and the importance of integrating different church expressions. Pete also shares stories...
Mar 26, 2024•36 min•Ep. 204
In this conversation, Roy Moran discusses the topic of mobilizing the existing church to make disciples. He is described as a disruptor who helps people think differently and disrupts their practices. The concept of hybrid church is introduced, which involves inviting friends to discover the Bible together and create biblically flourishing communities. Moran emphasizes the importance of understanding one's context and creating pathways for exploration. He also encourages leaders to become permis...
Mar 19, 2024•42 min•Ep. 203
In this episode, Brian and Cory interview Marko Pretorius. Marko is on staff at a predominant model church in South Africa, but has been given the freedom to explore disciple-making principles within that structure that would lead to movement. He brings up some important points that lead pastors within the predominant system might consider as they seek to empower all of God's people into their masterpiece mission.
Mar 12, 2024•45 min•Ep. 202
In this episode, Brian and Cory interview Suz Ozbun. Suz is a local family doctor and perhaps more importantly, puts up with Cory. Suz shares her own journey and how she is currently putting into practice disciple-making principles in her context. "I wasn't the professional or the pastor, but I see my role as a missionary now."
Mar 05, 2024•35 min•Ep. 201
Summary This conversation explores the topic of mobilizing the existing church for disciple-making. We delve into the observation that urban churches must refocus on disciple-making and engaging the lost. The conversation explores the definition of disciple-making and the need for paradigm shifts in existing church structures. We emphasize the importance of partnerships with existing churches and the mobilization of ordinary people. They also discuss the significance of unity and collaboration w...
Feb 27, 2024•32 min•Ep. 200
Tyler Dipprey shares his journey of transitioning from a mega church to a decentralized network of house churches focused on disciple making movements. He emphasizes the importance of inside leadership and the difference between conversion and disciple making. Tyler also discusses the challenges and rewards of long-term disciple making and the quality of disciples that emerge from this approach. Inside leadership is crucial in disciple making movements, as insiders have credibility and trust wit...
Feb 20, 2024•45 min•Ep. 199
In this conversation, Brian, Cory, and Gary Kendall discuss the importance of collaboration and unity within the church to reach and impact a city. We highlight the need for a citywide vision and the role of prayer, compassion, evangelism, Bible engagement, and multiplication in achieving gospel saturation. We also discuss the collaborative response of the Church of Kansas City to the recent tragedy after the Super Bowl, emphasizing the importance of unity and the unique role the church can play...
Feb 19, 2024•25 min
In this conversation, Brian and Norris Williams discuss the importance of empowering insider leaders in disciple making movements. Norris shares his background and how he got involved in disciple making movement principles. He emphasizes the need to listen to God and have a posture of humility when entering new places. Norris also highlights the importance of identity and pruning in bearing fruit. These principles are transferable to urban environments and can help individuals discover their tru...
Feb 13, 2024•40 min•Ep. 198
In this conversation, Brian and Cory discuss the importance of prioritizing inside leaders in urban disciple making movements. They highlight the complexity of cities, which are made up of millions of cultures and subcultures. They emphasize the need to find and raise up leaders who belong to these various subcultures and can effectively reach their own people. The conversation explores the role of outside leaders in supporting and empowering inside leaders, as well as the importance of mobilizi...
Feb 06, 2024•34 min•Ep. 197
In this conversation, Zach Duke shares his journey of faith and leadership development. He emphasizes the importance of modeling servant-hearted leadership and passing on the ministry to others. Zach highlights the need for leaders to prioritize intimacy with Jesus and trust in His goodness. He also discusses the tension between organic and intentional growth in leadership development. Zach encourages listeners to have faith in a mighty God and to obey Jesus in all things. Takeaways Leadership d...
Jan 30, 2024•36 min•Ep. 196
In this episode, Cory, Brian, and Hudson discuss servant-hearted leadership in the context of Share the Hope, a ministry in Kansas City. Hudson shares his background, including his transformation from a criminal lifestyle to a follower of Christ. He talks about his journey of becoming a leader in Share the Hope. Hudson emphasizes the need for leaders to let go of control and go with the flow, allowing the Holy Spirit to guide their actions. He encourages listeners to embrace their current circum...
Jan 23, 2024•36 min•Ep. 195
Cory and Brian introduce observation number six: Develop Servant Hearted Leaders Who Replicate. The strategy that Two Four Eight suggests in light of this observation is that urban disciple-makers should prioritize developing leaders like Jesus. While this seems obvious, we often miss the target on how we actually develop leaders.
Jan 16, 2024•39 min•Ep. 194
In this episode, Cory interviews Cynthia Anderson. Cynthia has been a global catalyst for disciple-making movements for multiple decades. She is a deep well of wisdom for those pursuing movements of disciple-making. We dig a little deeper in the idea of investing in one-on-one disciple-making relationships that multiply by exploring the question of who we should mentor. To learn more from Cynthia, check out The Multipliers Mindset book or her podcast called Dare to Multiply. www.multipliersminds...
Jan 09, 2024•38 min•Ep. 193
Cory and Brian interview Michael Sherwin of Two Four Eight. Michael was a primary driver behind the study of global movements and the process of discerning the common insights among these disciple-making networks in urban contexts. We wanted to have Michael back to explore more deeply this particular topic of "one-on-one vs. group disciple-making." We explore how our western individualism affects the way we see this insight, and how movement leaders celebrate this truth.
Jan 02, 2024•44 min•Ep. 192
Cory and Brian introduce Observation #5 from Two Four Eight's research on disciple-making in urban contexts: Invest, One-On-One in Disciple-making Relationships That Multiply. This is an interesting topic as we are strong proponents of group disciple-making and coaching. We explore this observation and what it can teach us as we seek to make disciples in the everyday stuff of life.
Dec 26, 2023•30 min•Ep. 191
Cory and Brian interview Lee Wood, a global disciple-making catalyst. Lee has been committed to launching and sustaining disciple-making movements since 2013. He's done this in the context of Tampa, Florida, and in many global cities as well. Lee shares insights he's discovered in these diverse contexts and how they support the everyday leader.
Dec 19, 2023•38 min•Ep. 190
Cory and Brian interview Danielle Best, a disciple-making leader in New York City. In the previous episode, we began to explore the observation made by Two Four Eight that in urban movements, a potential strategy is to invest heavily, intentionally, and long-term into those they disciple. Danielle and her family have leaned into the realities and complexities of this observation in one of the world's largest cities. In this episode, we'll get her unique insight on disciple-making in the highly u...
Dec 12, 2023•44 min•Ep. 189
Cory and Brian set up the fourth observation from the Two Four Eight research on disciple-making movements in Urban Contexts. The fourth observation states that "Urban disciple-makers should seek to invest heavily, intentionally, and long-term into those that they disciple." "Let's not equate disciple-making with conversion.
Dec 05, 2023•35 min•Ep. 188
Today we wanted to invite you to consider financially partnering with the Kansas City Underground. This is not something that we have made a practice with this podcast, nor will we regularly do this into the future. We did want to take this moment, this year, to invite you to consider a one-time or recurring gift to the KC Underground on Giving Tuesday. Thanks for your continued support for the work we're doing to multiply disciples in this city and beyond.
Nov 28, 2023•14 min•Ep. 187
Cory and Rick Bush continue with our interviews with leaders engaging the broken, poor, and marginalized. This interview will specifically exore how and why God is moving among the homeless/houseless population in Kansas City. "If you think you are going to reach someone for Christ, you are mistaken. The Holy Spirit is already at work ahead of you." -Rick Bush
Nov 21, 2023•39 min•Ep. 186
Cory and Brian interview Chris Conrad. Chris is one of the key leaders in Share the Hope, but he also actively serves the homeless communities in Kansas City. Chris knows what it's like to be an outsider and an insider among both of these networks. He brings a unique and important perspective to the posture we should take as we "go" among the broken, marginalized and poor.
Nov 14, 2023•44 min•Ep. 185
Cory and Brian set up the third observation from the Two Four Eight research on disciple-making movements in urban contexts. The third observation states that the most significant momentum in urban spaces appears to be among the broken, marginalized, and poor. These are tough words that often end up creating labels and categories that dismiss people. We want to fight against that. We also want to recognize that the observation is that "the most significant momentum" is among these networks of th...
Nov 07, 2023•34 min•Ep. 184
Cory and Brian welcome back Rob Wegner to wrap up our conversations around focusing on affinity groups in disciple-making movements in urban contexts. In this episode, we'll revisit why we should focus on affinity groups, stories that demonstrate how this plays out practically within the Underground, and how we can begin to discover our calling.
Oct 31, 2023•46 min•Ep. 183
