I'm Josh Hammer and this is the Josh Hammer Show. Think about this for a second. If you were trying to convince the American people that you were so out to lunch on their days day concerns, on their date day, priorities, on their day to day lives, if you were trying to convince them that you are better than them, and that you deign and look down upon who they are, how they live their lives, the values they hold dear,
the principles to which they subscribe. If this was your goal, and to be clear, it should not be your goal, but if this were to be your goal, you really couldn't do a heck of a lot better than what Don Lemon, Yes, that Don Lemon, the Don Lemon who was fired from CNN a few years agoing twenty twenty three for a legend massaging a whole other veritable laundry list of concerns at Don Lemon leading leading a mini insurrection at a church in Saint Paul, Minnesota over the weekend.
Just stunning, stunning footage coming out of the church in Saint Paul, Minnesota. Really just just rocking the world on Sunday, Minnesota, which continues to be ground zero of the broader left wing and TIFA, Black Lives Matter, Anti ICE anarchist insurrectionist movement, you can even call it that, going back at least as far back as the George Floyd riots in the summer back in twenty twenty, certainly continuing through all of the current mayhem as well, and just this latest footage
is really just astonishing. So without further ado, let's go ahead and just just have you watch this clip of Don Lemon, of Don Lemon being surrounded by a bunch of anti ICE protesters. I don't like the word protester here the media uses the word protester. Roland's comment, there, these are anarchists. Okay, these are anarchists, these are insurrectionists. But here they're not even on the sidewalk, just just quote unquote peace we demonstrating they are disrupting a Sunday
church service. Is this America or not? Unbelievable stuff? Go ahead and watch this, clue, Well, this is the beginning of what's going to happen here.
When you violate people's due process, when you pull people off the street and you start dragging them and hurting them and not abiding by the Constitution. When you start doing all of that, people get upset and angry.
And if you remember what the.
Civil rights movement is about, the civil rights movement is about these very kinds of protests, and for some reason in our modern era, people think that in order to have protests, you got to be you know, coordened off to a certain area and you know what time you can protest. There's nothing in the constitution that.
Tells you what time you can protest.
You can protest at anytime.
That's the whole point of it is to.
Disrupt, to make uncomfortable.
The hutzba, the hutzpa of Don Lemon to cite the civil rights today is indeed Martin Luther King Day. I'm pretty sure he was Reverend Martin Luther King Junior last night checked and as a reverend, as one of the most noted black pastors, black theologians of the second half of the twentieth century, you have the temerity Don Lemon to cite him on this long Martin Luther King Junior day weekend for the proposition that this is okay, that
disrupting church service is okay. Martin Luther King, the reverend who appealed to the natural law tradition, who appealed to the ancient, to the ancient notion advanced by people like Saint Augustine and Thomas Aquinas and the Catholic tradition. Martin Luther King appealed to them in his famous letter from the Birmingham Jail. This notion that an unjust law is no just law. That is Martin Luther King. That is him drawing on his faith, on his religion, on his
Christian background. And you're gonna say that he'd be okay with this? What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? Don Lemon? By the way, here is he with with with the pastor of the church. He had the temerity here in this quote unquote interview aka the ambush of the pastor of this besieged church in Saint Paul Mines. He had he had the clipsbout to say that Jesus himself would be understanding of what they were doing to watch this clip.
And this is unacceptable.
It's shameful.
It's shameful to interrupt a public gathering of Christians in worship.
But there are posts.
I have to take care of my flock to listen.
We live in there's a Constitution in the First Amendment to freedom of speech and freedom to assemble a protest.
We're here to worship. We're here to worship Jesus because that's the hope of these cities, that's the hope of the world is Jesus Christ.
He's very respectable.
But please don't push me.
Then we're here. We're here to worship Jesus. That's while we're here. Okay, that's why we're here. That's what we're about, which you think Jesus would be understanding. We're about. We're about spraying the love of Jesus.
But did you try to talk to them as a as a.
Person that is willing to call Okay, I have to take care of my church, about family. So I asked this, you actually would also leave.
For this film.
You don't want to say.
I'm always worship. I'm a Christian.
We're here when we're here to worship.
We're here to worship.
Okay, thank you very much.
Okay, So, first of all, the pastor is a heck of a lot more respectful than probably I would have been in that very tense situation. So I give I have tremendous respect to actually huge kudos huge props to the pastor for maintaining composure amidst his own congregation there in this utterly outrageous situation. Another thing to know, just real quick, Don Lemon is saying, there, don't push me.
Did we talk about you storm the church? You am pushed the pastor in the middle of Sunday sermon, and you're gonna jam a micro on space and say don't push me. What what I mean is this a predicate for what like a me too lawsuit? Are you kidding me? A disgusting behavior? I mean the notion that Jesus would appreciate what these anarchists are doing. Look, I mean I far be of me to tell Christians how to interpret Christianity,
the New Testament, etc. As a Jew. But suffice it to say, I'm pretty sure that respect for the rule of law is a value of the Biblical inheritance. More generally, the rule of law is a value that is shared by Jews and Christians alike. The notion that anyone who who opposes anarchy is allows e Christian is ludicrous. And I'm not going to get into graphic details for you,
lurid details. I will spare you that, but suffice to say that Don Lemon given his personal life, and you can go ahead and google those details if you're so inclined. I do not suggest him he is not exactly the man to talk to here about necessarily trying to preach and appeal to Jesus. I guess I will just leave it that for now. But Lemon continued his his mini g hod, his mini gi hood inside the church while he was there on Sunday. He didn't just interrogate the pastor.
He also went up to talk to some parishioners as well. Here was one and such interaction between Don Lemon and Won the parishioners at this besieged church in Saint Paul, Minnesota on Sunday.
I don't necessarily agree with everything that's going on in that Twin Cities right now, but I don't think it's.
Good to fight fire with fire.
I think it's good to speak up, and I think it's good to protest, but I think it's better to do it in a peaceful way. I don't think the answer is going into God's church.
You don't think this is peaceful.
Trespassing.
How do you feel if I went to your house and I started yelling.
It depends on what I did. But not in my house. That's a whole different thing.
I think these people would go inside of anybody's town.
This is the house of God, which everybody's time, Yes it is. But in the house, people don't yell at each other.
Yeah, there's a lot of yelling in my house growing up.
Were still love each other.
Yeah, but that.
Doesn't necessarily mean the a yelling is the answer.
Right, So the prishioners, the pastor very well spoken clearly. This is a church with some decently smart people who know exactly what they are talking about. Because this is trespassing. This is trespassing. One on one. You do not have a First Amendment right. First of all, to the extent the First Amendment is applicable in this situation all, it has nothing to do with Don Lemon and his fellow mini anarchists, many insurrectionary attempts to bombard a private residence
and to speak their minds. That is not that's not the First Amendment. That's trespassing, to the extent that the First Amendments has anything to do with this conversation. The First Amendments actually is of the worshippers because guess what, don Lemon. That whole religion thing is a pretty big part of the First Amendment. We have two religion clauses, including the free exercise clause. That's what that pastor and
these parishioners were doing when you interrupted them. Why did they do this, by the way, they allegedly did because the thought process was that the pastor, who you just saw there in that ambush interview, they thought, allegedly allegedly that the pastor was had ties to Ice, and apparently he does not. They thought that he was a former ice and enforcement officer. They were able to draw some purported connection in their utterly stupid, little puny minds between
this pastor and Ice. And it turns out, as far as we can tell here and base on all I've read, that there is actually no connection to be drawn here whatsoever. So the question at this point, watching this horrific footage and just watching the extends to which the anarchy insurrection
in Minnesotatin used, the question that remains is twofold. One is is Donald Trump going to actually invoke the Insurrection Act, this eighteen oh seven Thomas Jefferson era statute that allows to actually deploy the federal military for domestic law enforcement purposes, and that context, it is a dispensation and exception to the general rule that the military cannot be used for
some such domestic law enforcement purposes. There is a reconstruction Aeris statue called the Possive Commititatus Acts that generally prohibits the military for such use. The Insurrection Act is an exception or from that rule. I think the answer to that, frankly, is a resounding yes. Donald Trump at this point is overdue to invoke the Insurrection Act and send in the
military to Minneapolis. We will certainly ask our guest on tomorrow's show, Mike Davis, Mike Colley, get the article three Productabile, get his thoughts on that very question. Another question right now is what's going to happen to Don Lemon? What's't happened to Don Lemon and these various protesters. Well, it turns out that Harmei Dillon, who is the Assistant Attorney General in the Office of Civil Rights, she's been doing
really just utterly amazing work in that particular respect. She has been now making media rounds on social media saying that Civil Rights is well aware of the potential violations of the Federal Face Act, and that they are going
to be initiating potential indictments here. They will sive whether not there are criminal referrals to be had as a result of this, and there should be because the Face Act, otherwise known as the Freedom of Act Access to Clinic Entrances Act, is a bill Clinton Erra statute from that ninety four that prohibits the use of physical force or physical obstruction to intimidate or interfere with those who are trying to access a house of worship or inside a
house of warship to actually worship, to actually pray. That's literally what happens here. They are using physical force, they are intimidating, interfering with people engaging in the free exercise of religion. You can't do that, You absolutely, absolutely cannot do that. So I want to see Face Act prosecutions here. Frankly, I want to see Don Lemon Purp walked. I want to see Don lemn Purp walked mugshot on a face
app Because you can't do this. They use the same statue to prosecute and try to lock up the pro life grannies peacefully protesting outside of abortion clinics. You can't do that. Meet fire with fire for God's sake. I want to see those indictments here. Get Don Lemon on the face act, get him off the jail. Frankly, if convicted here sooner and later. This is disgusting, disgusting stuff. Unfortunately, the leftiet again showing what it truly believes. Stay well
us dough the break, I'm Josh Hammer. We'll be right back, Welcome back. Lots else going on, although I really really really really do want to see Don lem Purp walked there with that face act indictment and subsequent prosecution. We will see if it happens. Lots more going on. The whole Greenland conversation is really heating up. I really want to update you guys on that, but for now, I'm pleased to welcome a brand new sponsor here to the Josh Hammer Show. So we're thrilled to bring on Balance
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I'm not sure if you can see to my high spy got back very late last night from New York City, where I was doing an event for the Tikfa Fund, a conservative Jewish organization, on Sunday, speaking to some college students, and actually flying out tonight to Los Angeles to do an event out there tomorrow. Back on Wednesday and last week, I actually was called to pinch hit last minute for an event in Palm Beach, Florida, not terribly far from
where I live. This was a joint event between the Palm Beach Freedom Institutes, where I'm a fellow, and the Claremont Institute, the well known conservative think tank where I was a fellow many years ago. Long story short. Michael Anton perhaps best known as the author of the Flight ninety three election essay back in twenty sixteen. He has most recently been serving as the director of Policy Planning
at the US State Department. He was the lead author of the excellent National Security Strategy document that came out about a month and a half ago. So he was supposed to do this event in Palm Beach. He had a serious flight delay. Long story short. I was called in to pinch hit, along with a few others there at this event in Palm Beach, and the event was basically about national security strategy for the administration, foreign policy
more generally. And I was really surprised that after our joint presentation all of us there there were four of us, the crowd really wanted to talk most about Greenland. They were less interested in Venezuela. They were less interested in Iran, they were less interested in Russia Ukraine. I mean, there are questions on that, but they really really want to talk about Greenland. So the Greenland thing is seriously, really
really heating up. The most recent indication that it's heating up actually just came earlier today on Monday, January nineteenth. So Donald Trump writing in a letter to Norway in a formal White House letter head to Norway, he's kind of he's tying together the Nobel Peace Prize, for which she was snubbed for Machado of Venezuela, and he still continues to be very upset about that. So Norway gives out the Nobel Prize. So he's now tied together the
Nobel Peace Prize thing. His to his demonstration of defiance when it comes to the European quote unquote powers, including this again the Naviian countries trying to support their Danish colleagues and sending some some token, perfunctory true presence to Greenland. So Donald Trump, in this letter to Norway says, quote, considering your country decide not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped eight wars, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of peace, although it
will always be predominant. But now I can think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China. And why do they have a right of ownership anyway, et cetera, et cetera. The world is not secure unless we have complete and total control of Greenland. So Donald Trump really escalating the rhetoric when it comes it comes to Greenland. And you know, really, he's he's frankly not the only one.
He's not the only one who is now making this argument when it comes to Greenland. It was actually Senator Ted Cruz, who historically for the past decade has at times had an on an offingham relationship with Trump, typically on, but he's come outed a very robust, strong supporter of the United States' strong interest in acquiring the island of Greenland, the largest island in the world. So here was Center Tech crews of Texas going hard, going hard in the paint.
As they say, for Donald Trump's green the prosal on Fox Business, go ahead and watch this.
I believe it is overwhelmingly in America's national interest to acquire Greenland.
A year ago, as.
Chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, I chaired a hearing on the benefits to the United States of America of acquiring Greenland. Now, some folks in the press, they clutch their pearls and they say, well, what do you mean, acquiring Greenland?
How could that happen?
Look, the whole history of America has been a history of acquiring new lands and new territories. Whether you go back to Thomas Jefferson making the Louisiana purchase about half of the United States of America today, or you go back to America purchasing Alaska from Russia. You want to talk about. At the time, they called it Seward's folly. It turned out to be an extraordinarily consequential purchase. Greenland has massive rare earth minerals and critical minerals. There are
enormous economic benefits to America. But it's also, like Alaska, it is located on the which is a major theater for potential military conflict with either Russia or China. It's also critical for the Golden Dome and defending America for potential missial struck.
So everything that Ted Cruiser said there is emphatically correct, but it's kind of funny that he actually mentioned William Sewer. William Seward, who was the Abraham Lincoln era Secretary of State who famously acquired Alaska. He was ridiculed for it ends up being an amazing purchase. You know, as far back as eighteen sixty seven, William Seue was actually the first American statesman who at least made preliminary explorations about
acquiring the territory of Greenland. And then nineteen forty six, just one year one year after the end of World War Two, Harry Truman. Harry Truman actually formerly offered one hundred million dollars to Denmark to acquire Greenland. At the time, President Truman, who was a Democrat last sight checks, President Truman argued that the island was quote indispensable to the safety of the United States in confronting what was then the emerging Stalinist so be it threat from the Kremlin.
So this is the exact same argument that Ted Cruz and Don Trumper mak It's day. They're arguing that Greenland is now indispensable when it comes to American national security in the twenty first century, not just the Truman error
argument against the Soviet Union. Now it's also true for Lamar Pudin era of Russia, but even more so China, Folks, Greenland is the largest country in the world, in the world, and it very much fits in to this new Donro doctrine, to this new Donald Trump Western Hemisphere assertion, Western Hemisphere, hemispheric priority, hemispheric dominance doctrine that was part of the
Michael Anton drafted national security strategy. It's the exact same rational, at least to that extent, that helps justify the law enforcement operation to get Nicholas Manduro in Venezuela earlier this month. By the way, the United States not only has a history of territorial acquisition in which Ted Cruz was alluding to there when it comes to Alaska from Russia, when it comes to Florida from Spain, the attam On East Treaty, when it comes to the Gaston purchase. We've done this
so many times there. Jino was one of the last major acts of American territorial expansionism. It's only acquired the US Virgin Islands. Actually, that was a treaty in nineteen sixteen, negotiated by another Democrat, Woodrow Wilson. That treaty was between
the United States and oh yeah, Denmark. The Treaty of the Danish West Indies was a formal treaty ratified on August fourth, nineteen sixteen, between the United States and Denmark, by which the United States acquired what was then known as the Danish West Indies from Denmark for a sum of twenty five million dollars in gold. Now that would be over seven hundred million dollars. Back then it was only twenty five million dollars. That's actually one of the
most recent territorial expansions in American history. And fighting off it literally happens to be from the same country from the Danes. Now, look over the past few days, the European powers have pretended to be really really mad, and they're sending some troops over to Greenlands. By the way, these troops, you know, as a friend might put it on social media. They're basically just a LARPing. It's a live action role play in real time. They're sending literally
single to low double digit numbers of troops. So these countries like Sweden and Norway, the UK, France, Germany, they're sending anywhere from five to fifteen. What are you, guys, trying to defend against a dog sled? Are you literally trying to defend against America? Maybe Kana sending some dogsledters to invade the island. Look, Donald Trump is not going to use military force. Okay, stop clutching your pearls. This is just the art of the deal. It's deal making
one oh one. You speak very aggressively, you potentially act at the odds very aggressively, and then you negotiate and you come up with a compromise position. Denmark doesn't need Greenlands in fact, in fact, they have very ample reason to not even want it. Trump wants it. He's correct on it, He's negotiating hard. I think he's going to get it. I predict in the next few years Greenland, frankly will be American terrority. I'm Josh AMers take by
us with the break folks, we'll be right back. Welcome back. Just a final thoughts on Greenland before we move on to other topics of the day. At this event in Palm Beach that I mentioned before the break that I was pinch hitting for Michael Anton for last week, we were discussing the national security strategy they came out to about a month and a half ago, and various other
Trump foreign policy administration priorities. There was one gentleman in the audience whose opinion I found absolutely fascinating and deeply incisive on the topic of Greenland. He introduced himself as someone who was of a Danish descent. He actually speaks fluent Danish. In fact, he lived in Denmark for years throughout the exact number it was eight years, ten years, maybe up to fifteen years. He is intimately familiar with the people of Denmark, with the culture of Denmark, with
Denmark politics, and all the above. What he told us was that the people of Denmark do not give the smallest crap in the world about Greenland. At best. At worst, he said, a lot are actually deeply supercilious and arrogant, and frankly, at times he said, outright racist. Think about it. Denmark is part of Scandinavia. I think about the very stereotypical looking at Scandinavia and blonde hear, blue eyes, etc. Think about what the typical Inuit who lives in Greenland
looks like. It looks a lot different. So he was in There was a whole kind of European chauvinistic racist thing going on here too. Denmark, by the way, has to subsidize Greenlands for massive monies every year. Apparently the
Median Dane does not want to keep Greenland. This guy's opinion of having someone who having lived there for years is that the only reason that Greenland is still in Danish possession today, the only reason is because of vestigial prestige from the historic Danish monarchy, the prime minister, et cetera, et cetera. But the actual layman, the Median Dane's opinion, he said, are fully supportive of what Don Trump is doing. So that's why I'm saying, mister President, keep your foot
on the pedal when it comes to Greenlands. I for one, am robust the supporter of this there. You can't let that territory fall into Russian and Chinese hands. They are absolutely one thousand percent looking at it. China is developing new icebreakers to try to patrol the Arctic region. Russia is already well up there there. It's crucial to American security.
And again I will reiterate, I really do think before is all a said and done in this second Donald Trump term, I really do think that Donald Trump is going to acquire Greenland for the United States. I think it will be similar to a Guam, Puerto Rico, uth Virgin Islands. Mark my words. I've been wrong before, but frankly, for the sake of the American national interests, I hope that I am not wrong this particular time. Now in other news, turning our attention back towards the towards the
domestic front. You know, our daughter just turned thirteen months old recently, and God willing, we're going to have an expanding family here sooner rather than later. We my wife and are big opponents of the biblical ideal of be fruitful and multiply, and we look forward to hoping expanding our family again a sap. So with our daughter now a little over a year old, a lot of my thoughts have increasingly turned to childhood education, to how to
try to instill values. I think about the definition of being conservative. The deaficio to be conservative to me is that you are trying to instill certain values, customs, principles, folk ways, inherited traditions, and overall a cumulative worlds being way of life. You're trying to instill that and transmit that from one generation to the other and hopefully what will be an unbroken chain of transmission going back hundreds
thousands of years, et cetera. That really is ultimately how I view it means to be conservative, and child education is a big part of that, and I infested Until recently, I was not particularly aware of this woman named Miss Rachel.
I really I was not aware. I saw that in December, Zoram mam Donnie, the communist mayor of New York City, named Miss Rachel as part of his inaugural committee when he's inaugurated on New Year's Day on January first, the now infamous inauguration speech where Zora mam Donnie talks about the frigidity of individualism and the warmth of collectivism. Yes, that would be the warmth of collectivism that Nicholas M. Duro is undoubtedly intimately familiar with as he is currently
rotting from a New York jail cell. But in any event, Miss Rachel and Zoraman Donnie decided to link arms yet again, actually over the weekend. Go ahead and watch this doozy. They were singing at first the childotte song Wheels on the Bus, which I'm very familiar with, like I share because my baby loves that song. But they transitioned from Wheels on the Bus to something a little different. Go ahead and watch them. They are on the bus says friends,
Hello friends, Hello friends. The mayor on the bus says hello friends.
All through the town.
The money on the bus goes clink.
Clink, clank.
The buses are going to be free though.
That's so wonderful.
But this is like my song, and the kids like to do it. Okay, Actually I have another one.
Yeah, I have another one.
The babies on the bus go where where where childcare? They're so happy, Actually, the parents are really happy.
This is like my big hit.
I need to like, let's go.
Okay, So, in case you're only happying attention, she's obviously pretending to be interrupted. This is obviously choreograph, obviously planned there, and it doesn't take a mental level, I Q to figure out what's happening here. He is not so subtly. Indeed, he is overtually objectively inserting into this childhood programming his socialist messages. When it comes to free buses, when it
comes to free universal wildcare. You see this woman known as Miss Rachel, who incidentally has come out previously as not just a socialist, but as an apologist for the Palestinian Arab cause. She's basically a de facto Hamas Kafiah clad proverbial rhetorical jihadas she's made her anti Israel stance and her indeed, her anti American stands very well known. She's a total leftist. She's a total leftist. And this woman has become an absolute sensation. You know, maybe you
don't have young children right now. I mean, obviously, when I was growing up, I'm thirty six years old, I didn't have a Miss Rachel on YouTube. I didn't even have YouTube, right But these days Miss Rachel is one of, if not the single most popular online child educator. And this is what they're doing. This is the kind of messaging that they're inserting to your children. And frankly, that's
on the tip of the iceberg. You think free buses or free child's care is problematic, How about the transgender stuff? How about sliding in there? Just sliding in. How Joey can be Jane or Jane can be Joey. How it's okay if you don't agree with the sex that you are assigned with at birth. We're all just here two a firm mar stanzas. So go ahead and take that puberty blocker. Go ahead and take that chest binder. Go ahead and chop off mister winki link downstairs. How it's
okay to have an abortion. Shout your abortion. It's okay to think that your parents are backwards bigots because they like to spend their weekends in part at a house of worship. Think of them as outmoded troglodytes. You are the future, You are the liberated, the freethinker. Again, these are the things I'm thinking a lot about these days, now that we have our first baby, toddler thirteen months. I'm not sure if she's a baby or toddler, whatever
she is. We have our young one more on the way God willing stoner rather than later, And it's just a sober reminder that parenting in some ways has never been more difficult because of the nature of the Internet and social media and all of the cancerous forces that are out there. Not just narcotics, not just pornography, although that is horrific, Not just the Instagram and TikTok algorithms, even though those undoubtedly are at times, perhaps often horrific
as well. But when it comes to self aggrandizing, cynical, ideologically motivated quote unquote educators who give off a veneer a patterna of purporting to care about your child's well being. They pretend they mouth the platitudes of caring about how your child is learning and advancing, but in reality they're there to hawk their ideological agenda. This is why I'm so bullish by the way on right of center alternatives to Miss Rachel, I think about prager You and Praguer
You has a whole kid's division. Praguer You kids. I love Prager You. Organizations like that have never been more important. We need more right of center family centric programming, not even families and program just common sense, non stupid. How about decent human being programming, patriotic, pro American, pro West programming. It's increasingly hard to find Again, you might not be aware of it, of just how bad it's gone out there, but we need to make our voices heard when it
comes to people like miss Rachel. She's a cancer on this you young up and coming generation. She should be shunned and ostracized, not celebrated. I'm not surprised that Zormamdani is bringing her in and fading her with all this praise and these cameo appearances there. But it's also not to support the alternatives. Support those who are going to give your child a better education. I know that I try to do so in my own personal life as well.
It's never been more important, frankly, than it is now. I'm Josh Hammer. Stay with us, We'll be right back. Welcome back. Well, it's National Champion to day in college football, Miami Mammi Hurricanes and the Indiana Hoosiers, undefeated Indiana squaring off at hard Rock Stadium, not terribly far from where
I live here in South Florida. It is essentially a home game for the Miami Hurricanes, who are a major underdog nonetheless against Indiana, led by their Heisman Trophy winning quarterback for Nando Mendoza, who is from the three zero five who is from Miami Dade County. So either way, South Florida wins. You know, on my flight back to Florida from New York City last night that actually were
a bunch of Indiana fans on the flight. I presume that there were not many Miami fans for the very simile reason that this is a home game and most Mimi fans probably are already here. But any event, college sports is yet again in the news. I haven't be a huge college sports fan in general. Those of you who know me very well know that my rider Die team is Duke basketball. Been a fan of Duke Bastel since I was literally in the third or fourth grade.
I've seen our team win two national titles in person. I watch every game. I'm a genuinely huge college sports fan and really just a big sports fan in general, which is why I was so dismayed to see yet again, yet again, another indictment when it comes to a point shaving sports gambling scandal in college athletics. So this one
came just within the past week. Within the past week, it had a brand new a brand new indictment coming from the US Turns Office for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, a brand new federal indictment that's been unsealed allegedly a sprawling college basketball point shaving scheme involving more than thirty nine players on seventeen different Division one on NCAA college basketball programs that resulted, according to the indictment in Pennsylvania,
that resulted allegedly in dozens of games over the past two seasons being fixed by an overarching broader gambling ring that included a former NBA player. Twenty of the twenty six defendants, by the way, played college basketball just during the past two seasons. For them, four of the twenty six defendants have played for the current team over the past week or two. They're still playing. Unbelievable stuff. Unbelievable stuff. I mean, how many times does it have to happen?
How many times does this happen?
You know?
It was just in November that there was yet another, yet another indictments that came in the sport of baseball. In the sport of baseball, actually there were there was a pitcher for the Cleveland Guardians forming the know as Cleveland Indians that that was indicted in another case as well. Horrible, I have recent NBA scandal, the poker ring involving involving Chauncey Billups, the former Troy Pistons player. There have been numerous numerous high profile scans down so this massive indictment
out of Pennsylvania. When it comes to college basketball, we have the Cleveland Guardians thing. The pitchers were named Emmanuel Klase and Luis Ortiz. They were charged with fraud, conspiracy, and bribery stemming from an alleged scheme to brake individual pitches. This came from November as well, and then there was the poker scandal involving the NBA players Chauncey Bilbs. There So, sports scambling has become one of the big problems, frankly, of our time, and the numbers in this, frankly are
just astounding. I wrote my weekly syndicated column on this very topic back in November, around the time that that Major League Baseball scandal broke, So in case you missed
the column, just a couple of particular highlights there. So, according to research tracking seven million US adults, states with legalized online sports betting have seen a twenty five to thirty percent increase in bankruptcy filings in an eight percent rise in debt sent to collections compared to states without such easy access to sports gambling out of their smartphone
in their pocket. Additionally, a survey of sports betters found that one in four say they've missed a bill they missed a bill payment because of sports gambling, and thirty percent say they have debts that they directly attribute to losses from sports wagering. More than half of sports gamblers carry their credit card bounce from month to month, and on and on it goes. Another say you found that households and states with legal sports gambling invests nearly fourteen
percent less than comparable households in other states. Money that could have gone to retirement savings, small businessvestment, various other good uses instead went to sports gambling. When it comes to college athletics, it's perhaps particularly problematic. For a very long time, college athletics was really the it was really it's something of an innocent it's really kind of an
innocent thing, right. I think about the helcyon days of college athletics, like the actual days of college sports before the past few years where the NCBLA has agreed to allow athletes to market their anil name, image and likeness, as the popular acronym goes, and now there's big Bucks. Now there's big Bucks involved in college athletics. What is the extent between this infusion of big Bucks in college athletics with this corruption when it comes to sports gambling.
Surely there is something there when it comes to trying to increase the monetary incentive. If you just totally crowd out and you say that no, you are amateurs, You're not going to be earning any money until you go to the next level. If you're so inclined or if you have the skill to do it, then there's not going to be the incentive there for these gambling rings try to creep in and try to disrupt games, pay people to basically deliberately underperform and rig the system. By
the way, kind of related to that. So, the quarterback of the Miami Hurricanes, Carson Back, formerly the quarterback of the University of Georgia. He is the one who is playing today against Fernando Mendoza of Indiana for the national title. Carson Back was asked recently about attending class and it was a rather curious interview. I guess you would say, go ahead and watch this one.
Carson.
I'm curious, did you have class yesterday?
If so, what class?
And I know there was a PEP rally on campus.
Just what has it been like being you as a student this week, particularly yesterday? No class?
I graduated two years ago, so obviously I've been working towards other degrees now that I've gotten to Miami. But these programs take a little longer than just a year to finish. So obviously I'm not enrolling again next semester, so I'll be done after this season.
Okay, So cursely they're a Fox Sports. I mean, you see that he's just smiling, kind of left in his office. If it's no big deal. Yeah, you know, I'm a quarterback. I don't really play.
You know.
Again, call me old school, But once upon a time there was the model student athlete. I mentioned Duke basketball my real college athletic love and joy earlier today. Around the time that was becoming a Duke basketball fan was when they made the national title game in nineteen ninety nine, where they got upset by Jim Calhoun's Yukon Huskies, and then two years later they won the national title in two thousand and one, this team that was totally stacked.
You had Shane Battier, Jay Williams, Carlos Boozer, Mike Dunleve, etcetera. Shane Battier was I believe a four point o GPA. He was a role model, perfect student, like a genuinely brilliant person who also was National Player of the Year and one of the greatest defensive players in the entire history of college basketball and one national title to boot. That is the model of a student athlete. That is
what college athletics ought to be. At some point, if there is so much money flowing in through this new NIL agreement that the INSTEADA is experimenting in at some points, if players are just going to laugh and laugh and laugh when it comes to whether or not they're even going to be attending class in the first place. Oh classes, I'm a six year senior class. I mean, I think back to the early two thousands. I mean to an extent for a while, it actually predates the NIL thing.
Matt Leinert, the USC Trojans quarterback nearly two thousands, as like a fifth or six year senior. He was taking one class ballroom dancing or some stupid crap like that. Look, is college athletics going to be for collegians for students
or is this just the professional minor leagues. That's the big question and the broader point to here, not just a sports fan, is because college athletics ought to be a place where we go to look again for something resembling innocence, not the over the top marketing and this corporate sponsors and the big bucks and the this and the that, and the glitz and the glamour of the NBA, the NFL, et cetera. People looked in the past college boards something very different, a cleaner and more old school
type of athletic competition. That there's a reason why the NCAA is more popular in the Midwest and the South. That's why it's his older school, more traditional mentality that's dying before our eyes. And along of that death is coming this corruption the form of sports gaming as well. Frankly, I hate it. I hate it.
I hate it.
I hate it. I'm not sure if there's putting this genie back in the bottle, but frankly, I hope that there is some way to at least mitigate the damage. Houck, we enjoy the rest of or evening, I'm Josh Hammer, wishing good night. We'll be right back tomorrow. The Josh Hammer Show is a member of the Trust Project
