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It's Time to Send in the Troops!

Jan 15, 202640 min
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Josh breaks down the ongoing riots and unrest in Minneapolis, including the president’s discussion of potentially invoking the Insurrection Act to bring the violence under control. He then turns to the latest developments in Iran, outlining the next steps facing the United States and why the president must follow through after a clearly stated red line was crossed.
Josh is then joined by James Lindsay of New Discourses for a candid conversation about confronting bad actors on the Right, what motivates them, and why ignoring them only strengthens their influence.
He closes the show by reacting to a viral moment from a Senate hearing earlier this week, where an OB-GYN was unable to answer a basic question: can a man get pregnant?

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Speaker 1

I'm Josh Hammer and this is the Josh Hammer Show. Coming up later on the program, James Lindsay joins us to continue the conversation about what the heck is happening to certain individuals on the so called rights who have lost their everlasting minds, and frankly, what is their goal here? Is there really to supplant and replace MAGA, to replace America first, replace the Republican Party in the conservative movement as we know it. Frankly, it seems to me that

that is exactly the goal. We will get into that and much more with James Lindsay later in the show, but for now, here's today's big headline. The big headline is the mayhem, the anarchy, the twenty twenty esque photos that are now pouring over all of our social media feeds and over our cable news and internet livestreams. I talk, of course about Minneapolis, Minnesota, after the death last week of Renee Good, the shooting by Jonathan Ross, the ice agent.

Minneapolis at first looked like it was going to be content. There were still protesters, but in the first few days following the shooting of Good by the ice officer Jonathan Ross, it looked like federal law enforcement was able to contain

the mayhem. Unfortunately, over the past thirty six to forty eight hours or so, that story has started to change, because just yesterday, on Wednesday, January fourteenth, we had yet another altercation, another altercation between ICE agents, the roughly two thousand ICE agents who Christy Noam admirably correctly is saying that she is not going to pull out of the

Twin Cities. There was another altercation between an ICE agent and a so called protester, not really a protester in this case, it was actually an illegal alien and his aiders and betters when it came to trying to ultimately

enforce a deportation operation. So what happened, According to a statement from the Christi Noam led Department of Home mad Security, apparently there were federal law enforcement officers who stopped a driver from Venezuela who in the US illegally and just to go back to immigration law one oh one, folks, we've unpacked this in the show already, but I am sick beyond belief at this notion that you hear from so many on the left that you have to commit a crime, you have to be a criminal alien. I

mean even that term criminal alien. And the point that I make over and over and over again is you are a criminal alien if you are here illegally. It is a crime. If you come here and you can make crime on top of that. Okay, maybe you're a double criminal alien or a triple quadruple, quintuple whatever, criminal alien. But by sheer dint of being here illegally, by crossing the Rio Grande or whatever the case would be, to overstay a visa, if you are here illegally, you're a

criminal alien. Okay, So let's glad that stipulated. So in any events, so DHS statement says that the officer yesterday in Minneapolis was enforcing an operation against a Venezuelan legal alien. So the person the ven is one question, drove off after ICE tried to apprehends us back drove off and then crashed his car into another parked car and then got up to flee on foot. Is all, according again to the Department of fullmand Security. The officers, the ICE

officers eventually caught up and then two other people. So these are probably the folks involved with organizations like ice Wash, the anarchic organization that Renee Good was a part of. So then two of the people show up and they make common cause, not with Ice, not with the federal law enforce officers, but with the ven as well in illegal lands. Then the two other people or three other

people actually then start attacking the officer with shovels. They think shoveling, just start wanding him and again Dhsaman, they said. Fearing for his life and safety as he was being ambushed by three individuals, the officer fired a defensive shot to defend his life, and it, based on all we can tell, indeed was a defensive shot. This defensive shot has led to the individual being being hospitalized. But he's fine. I mean, this is not going to be a life

threatening injury. Very similar situation in some ways to Renee Good insofar as it was an act of self defense. Recall that after the Renee Good video started going viral, there were a lot of folks saying, oh my god, she didn't even hit the ICE officer in question. There she was trying to get away from the officer. The New York Times at the time, the Great Lady all

the news that fit the print. The New York Times did a deep dive where they purported to show that Rene Goods vehicle didn't hit Jonathan Ross the ice agents well courtesy of Alpha News. Earlier this week, we actually saw then a new angle on the Renee Good Jonathan Ross altercation in Minneapolis last week. We now know that Rena Goods vehicle actually did hit Jonathan Ross. How do we know one because we saw it on video two, Because it's been confirmed is been confirms that Jonathan Ross

had to go to the hospital for internal bleeding. The leftly narrative on the whole Rene Good situation last week, which we bemoan, we don't celebrate at all. It's a tragedy that someone was radicalized by the propaganda, ended up paying for with their life, the total tragedy. But their narrative just dies even more day in and day out because the officer, just like the officer last night, was

indeed fearing for his life. Now the response to that, Donald Trump is threatening to invoke the Insurrection Act in response to all this, these these terrible images, the fire, the mayhem there, and also in response we probably should add to Governor Tim Walls himself. Government Governor Tim Walls took to his YouTube feed on Wednesday night to tell Minnesotans to start creating a database of all the various atrocities committed by ICE in the Twin Cities. Absolutely appalling stuff.

Speaker 2

Go ahead and watch tonight.

Speaker 3

I want to share another way you can help witness, help us establish a record of exactly what's happening in our communities. You have an absolute right to peacefully film ICE agents as they conduct these activities. So carry your phone with you at all times, and if you see these ICE agents in your neighborhood, take out that phone

and hit record. Help us create a database of the atrocities against Minnesotan's not just to establish a record for posterity, but to bank evidence for future prosecution atrocities.

Speaker 1

What a verbiage is this? After now multiple federal law enforcement officials have had to shoot defensive shots and fear for their life. It's appalling. Is Tim Walls trying to get ICE agents killed? Does he want more debt agents? Frankly, I'm afraid of the answer. So by chance you're watching this, Governor Waltz, don't answer. I don't even if I want

to hear it. It's just so deeply offensive. And again, a response to this Donald Trump has taken too true social among other media and his threatenings a statue known as the Insurrection Act. So the Insurrection Act goes all the way back to eighteen oh seven. It is something that this is the Thomas Jefferson presidencies. A statute goes way back to the origins of the Republic, codified at ten US Code, Section two fifty four. The Insurrection Act

was also discussed in twenty twenty. You might recall this somewhat infamous op ed that Tom Cotton, the Center of Arkansas wrote for The New York Times. It was in early June twenty twenty, right after the George Floyd riot started picking up gear and Tom Cotton's opbed was titled Sending the Troops. That was the opbed that infamously led to an editor's note of like five or six paragraphs.

There's a whole New York Times staff walkout ultimately led to the resignation of Barry Weiss and many others from the Times as well. And Tom Cotton was calling then for the Insurrection Act as well. This is the parallel that we have been drawing here on the show for a week or so. Is this going to explode into twenty twenty. For a while, it looked like that was not going to be the case. Increasingly, I am less

confident they're not stopping. They are being eight inebedded by wilful, idiot neo Confederates insurrections, politicians like the Coward in the Twin Cities Tim Walls, Keith Ellison, the Ittorney General, speaking of this ludicrous State's Right stance in their own lawsuit against DJs NICs. Did the Democratic Party stand for the abolition of ice? Do they actually want to abolish federal law enforcement when it comes to immigration? Do they believe

in such thing as immigration law? The federal government the United States of America has a very long history when it comes to quashing state level rebellions. It was in the early seventeen nineties, seventeen ninety three, ninety four around then that George Washington himself literally George Washington. This is actually before the Insurrection Act was even passed under the Jefferson presidency.

George Washington sent federal troops or the militia as it was probably the case back then, to western Pennsylvania to quash but at that time was known as the Whisky rebellion. There is a very long history, very long history in this country of in times of an arguing mayhem, using federal law enforcement, indeed even the National Guard and or of the act military to quash mayhem. It's true that there is a law from the Reconstruction Error of Making

seventy eight known as the Possecommitatus Act. The Posse Coommitatus Act generally prohibits federal troops from being used for domestic law enforcement purposes. The clearest exception to the Possecommitatus Acts is the Insurrection Act of eighteen oh seven. It is the absolute statute to use in situations like this, where you federalize the National Guard, and then you use the federalized National Guard to go in and to restore order.

Donald Trump has already done this to various degrees, most prominently in Washington, d C. Which is a little different because the federal government has more direct oversights of Washingt d C. He's tried it in numerous other blue jurisdictions as well. The courts have generally stopped them. Most recently in the Supreme Court. The administration said that they were going to take their foot off the gas pedal when it comes to the National Guard into the Blue Cities.

For now, I think that time pretty squarely at this point has passed because law and order must be restored. Immigration law is just as much a part of federal law as anything else. It is some of the most foundational laws we have in this very country. Immigration laws cut to the very essence of who we bring into the community. Who are we as a people? Who is this we the people that is spoken of in the preamble the Constitution. Who is part of the polity the Paulus,

as Aristotle would have put it, Who are we? Illegal aliens are physically here, they're not legally here. We did not welcome that in Therefore they must go, whether not they are quote unquote criminal aliens or just good old fashioned illegal aliens who happened to be, as I just said,

criminal aliens as well. At this point is clear that the neo Confederate John C. Calhoun, Jefferson Davis type, Minnesota officials, Tim Walls, Keith Ellison, Jacob Fry, the mayor, they're not gonna do anything when it comes to getting these bums off our street. On the contrary, they're fan the flames of anarcic Mayhem. This is the perfect instance for the

Insurrection Act to be invoked. Mister President. I hope frankly, that you do exactly that, that you invote the Insurrection Act asap, because if this is not an instance of sending in federal law enforcement, just like Washington the Whiskey Rebellion all those many years ago, if this is not a clear case of doing exactly that, then I don't know, frankly, what the statue exists for what is happening insider on. It's been one of the big international stories now for

multiple weeks. For a while, it looked like the United States under President Trump was really quite on the presspass of taking some sort of action, some sort of action. We don't know exactly what it would have been. Could have been still could be a cyber attack, Still could be some sort of actual kinetic military action target strikes against missile defense, the ISLAMA for Revolutionary Guard Corps, against the Mollahs and or of the Ayatollah Khamani himself. We

don't know. The big question is at this point is Donald Trump backing off of his own red line. For much of the past week or so, Donald Trump has repeatedly said on truth social He has said, to the run and people stay out on the streets of Tehran, stay out in the streets all throughout this horrifically repressed country, the isonmic Republic of Ran. Trump encouraged the ir audience to take back their institutions, to fight against the thugs in the IRGC and the rest of the Islamist theocracy.

It is not in doubt that any single Iranian who was out there, who was acting upon that advice, who is out there in the streets chanting for the overthrow of Kamene the Ayatola, who was chanting for the overthrowing of the Molus, who is clamoring, who was chanting for the restoration of the Shah Raizapalavi, they know that they are risking it all. They could be shot and killed at any given moment by the paramilitary or outred military

thugs of this most cancerous and horrific of regimes. Indeed, the death toll for the past few weeks, we don't know the exact number, it's not estimated to be at least twelve to twenty thousand. That's a lot of people. And by the way, the Forur Minister of irong was actually on Fox News talking about this with Brett Baher

earlier this week. Brett Bher in this interview, asked the Foreign Minister about these horrific executions, and the Foreign Minister, laughably, i'd be utterly, farcically said that it was not the Irani regime actually killing, actually killing. The dissonance that in fact he said it was is really massaud engage in

a false flag operation. To it's which the obvious question is, well, first of all, that's absurd, But second of all, what does that say about your own country that you so don't have control of your own country that a foreign agent is allegedly slaughtering thousands. I mean, it's just so palpably insane. But make no mistake about it. In his various posts, Donald Trump said to keep up the fight because help is on the way. That's what he said. He said, help is on the way. He said, Miga

and IgA make a run great again. As you know if you watch the show daily, I am not a fan of red lines in foreign policy. Foreign policy should be handled clandestinely, secretly among people meeting in the situation room, among conversations between the commander in chief and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and all the various folks who have presumably different opinions, and allulimately the buck stops with

the Commander in Chief. Alexander Hamilton, in the Federals number seventy, one of the Federals papers dedicated to explain the nature of Article II in the Executive Branch, famously says that the executive power must be vested in one individual, the President of the United States, because here he has secrecy and dispatch. So I, much like Hamilton, value secrecy when

it comes to the presidency. Again, I'm no fan of red lines, but the simple question that I have now is if you issue a red line, which Donald Trump did not. Only did he say keep it up helps on the way, he also said earlier this week that if the regime keeps on slaughtering their own people, they're going to pay a heavy price. That's a threat, that is a direct threat. So why haven't we seen anything yet?

Well on Wednesday, so yesterday, Donald Trump said while he was signing some executive orders in the Oval Office, he said that we've been told that the killing in Iran is stopping, and that stopped. He said that we've been told that on good authority. Well, that's that's a little weird. I mean, on whose authority have you heard that, mister President. Is it the Ayatolas, the Malls themselves, the same people that went on Brett Bayer to say that it was

Masad slaughtering these Iranians? Are Are they the quote unquote authority who are announcing that the killing has stopped? Not sure that one makes a whole lot of sense, With all due respect, mister President. The latest as of this morning a senior Saudi official telling French media that Saudi Arabia, Katar, and Oman persuaded President Trump to give Iran a chance.

Apparently those three countries, Saudi Arabia, Katar, and Oman, warns President Trump that striking Tehran would lead to quote unquote serious consequences. Now already, the United States had acted a couple of days ago by pulling back soldiers from all you Daid Airbase in Qatar, the largest American air base in the region, and various other military bases as well. We started to pair back our military assets. There have been lots of other assets that have been starting to

make a b line to the region. B fifty two bombers. Also has to say there were reports that an aircraft carrier strike group that was currently positioned in the South China Sea was ordered to start heading towards the Persian Gulf towards the Middle East. So it's a little too early to write this off and to say that President Trump is officially backing down. I'm not quite ready to do that yet. He has already done some other things,

for whatever it may or may not be worth. He announced that tariffs will be increased to at least twenty five percent. When it comes to Iran's trading partners, there's some economic leverage. Furthermore, earlier today, the Trump mistiration announced new sanctions targeting a new slew of senior Iranian officials, and he also designated a certain infamous prison called Fardis Prison.

It's a facility where U officials say they have subjected female detainees above all to absolutely cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment. There are new sanctions slapped in this particular prison as well. So he's not doing nothing, and to be sure, something

still could happen. Let's recall that last June there was this prolonged, extended debate as to whether or not Donald Trump is going to get involved in the twelve day war between Israel and Doron, and when President Trump finally did take military action in this remarkable thirty seven hour B two bomber run over for Dow and a couple of other Iranian nuke sites that happened over the weekend. Happened on Saturday, early evening US time, or the middle

of the night over in Persia and Iran. So perhaps it will happen this weekend as well. But mister president, you were running out of time. I would not have advised to indiscriminately start dropping bombs or anything like that as recently as a few weeks ago. I'm not even sure it's stated that is exactly what is necessary. You have to be careful about how you're going to enforce red line. But the key point is that red line must be enforced. You can't make red line threats unless

you're going to back it up. You can't say that the Iranian regime, if you keep on slaughtering your citizens, you're going to have hell to pay for it. And then when they keep on sldering, don't do anything. When President Trump first made that threat, the estimates were that

the regime had killed a few hundred five six hundred runnings. Again, these are all rough estimates, very hard to get reliable information on this part of the world, and in the days that followed that number went from a few hundreds to twelve to twenty thousand rough estimate. Mister President, they crossed the red line. The red line has been crossed, stomped on, trampled over, torn to a million shreads, and

sanctions is not going to cut it at this point. Trump, at this point unfortunately, runs the risk of looking a lot like Barack Obama. Barack Obama issued his infamous red line in the context of the Syrian Civil War around twenty thirteen twenty fourteen, when Bashar al Assade was using chemical weaponry to gas his own citizens. That red line was also crossed. The Barack obomb minstration did virtually nothing

in response. They sent out Chuck Hagel to the Senate to announce in advance that there was going to be a symbolic quote unquote pinprick strike. A fat lot of good that does to enforce a red line, mister President. He just had a remarkable operation in Caracas, Venezuela, a stunning, stunning demonstration of American military might. Incredible stuff. What is up with the schizophrenia here? Again? I'm not have advised a red line. I don't like red lines. I'm a

Hamiltonian in that sense. But the red line was issued, and the red line has been crossed and crossed and crossed again. If American deterrence is going to continue to mean anything, and we will stand up to our enemies, it is of vital importance to not make a Barack Obama failed mistake. Mister President, enforce that red line. We'll be right back on the other side with James Lindsay.

One of the issues we've been covering for months now, and for better for us, we probably are not going to stop covering it anytime soon is the brain rot op as I call it, metastasizing in parts of the so called ride. Really emphasis, I would say on so called right. Earlier this week we discussed Grandma Grouper, which is what I and others are starting to call Megan Kelly, who was but the latest to fall down this particularly

irksome rabbit holes. Really no one better to bring on to discuss this entire irksome feeded, stinking phenomenon than James Lindsay. James Lindsay is the founder and editor of New Discourses. You can follow him on x where he runs a very lively and active account at Conceptual James, James, Welcome to the Josh Hammer Show. You know, you and I

have had some very minor squabbles in the past. I very much want this to be seen for the burying of the hatchet that it is, because you've really been a tremendous voice of clarity when it comes to calling

out just really profound evil. I mean, evil's actually the word that comes to mind is the very first word that comes to mind when we see a lot was being spouted by the Tucker Carlson's of the world, the cannon Zones of the world, and increasingly and tragically these days, frankly, the Megan Kelly's of the world, to no small extent, not as bad as the other two, but it's it's getting pretty bad. So, James, I kind of want to just turn over to you. You you were on this

pretty pretty quickly. I guess. The very first question is why is this happening? What is the incentive structure such that we are currently out of the situation that we're at right now.

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Well, I think the incentive structure is actually to seize control of the future direction of the Republican Party and conservative movement, and that means also to scatter to the winds the influence of the Trump doctrine that's broadly known as MAGA or Make America Great Again. And I'll just say, by the way, that where you said just a moment ago that you know that this is that we've had, you know, our differences in the past. Let me just

bring that up. Our differences are, like I said to you in private message at one point a few a month or two of go, they're completely irrelevant compared to what we're talking about right now, because there's a difference between debates about policy and even like the full meaning of conservatism and all of those kinds of things versus like you just said, a moral issue this is this

is a completely different thing. So, for example, when the Vice President came out in defensive Tucker Carlson and said, you know, well, I'm not going to throw my friends under the bus. I have lots of disagreements with different people. It's like there are different kinds of disagreements, right and This is, in my opinion, one of these points where

we have to be very clear. Then we're not just talking about you know, ah, you know, should it be a thirty five percent tax rate or a thirty two percent tax right kind of a disagreement, or you know, should we go more nationalists a little bit, or should

we go you know, more libertarian a little bit. This is a profound moral disagreement, and like I said, I think it is being injected into the Republican Party and conservative movement to create the conditions under which the coalition that Trump put together, the Maga energy, the mega phenomenon, can be scattered, broken apart, and then what can happen is that this radicalism, this you know, whether we call it postliberal or whether we call it neo Buchananite or

whatever fancy term we want, can become a center of mass around which the conservative movement reforms out of necessity going forward after it's been bashed to pieces. So this is the bashed to pieces part. They bring in all of this crazy stuff, all of this morally objectionable stuff

that true conservatives will just not get on with. They won't they won't do it, they won't go there and they let things fall apart, try to make themselves a center of mass, and then say, oh my god, we have to win an election.

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Come with us.

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James Lizay is the founder and editor of New Discourses. Check them out at new discourses dot Com. Follow him on x as well at Conceptual James. So, first of all, I could not agree with you more that the goal here is to tear apart MAGA, the really the American rights. More broadly, I mean, when you do, as Tucker Carlson did in his interview with nig fund is, when you go after Christian Zionists and say that you hate them

more than anyone on the face of the earth. You know, if we define Zionis as someone who simply agrees that the state of Israel should exist, which is the literal definition essentially of being a Zionist, then you're talking here about a plurality, perhaps even the outright majority of the Republican Party's current base. So I agree with you that the goal is to tear down the GOP mag of American rights. All the above, frankly as it currently exists.

I think the million dollar question, James, is still is why. I mean, I mean, why this seething hatred for the current infrastructure as it current exists, and just as importantly, what is the actual goal beyond that? What do they hope to be the successor to the current vague manifestation? Again, the details can be filled in by lots of people, but the broader contours the American right, why do they hate it so freaking much that they want to tear all down and build something new?

Speaker 4

You know, it's a there's a degree of openness to this question. So I don't want to come in here and be the kind of pundit that's like, this is what it is, Josh, It's just simple. But I mean there are a lot of pieces to it too. The part that I just mentioned that, you know, there's this vision for a different kind of Republican Party post Obama that got dashed on the rocks by the success of

Donald Trump and MAGA is one motivation. This so called paleo conservative movement as it's sometimes called, is trying to reassert itself into conservative politics, and Trump actually forestalled that and in fact, in some ways sort of stole their thunder a little bit. And I think there's a resentment there among a lot of the Gropers, for example, they see themselves as the real initial maga that's been stolen

for this, you know, pro America thing instead. But then you have these other influences that can't be denied, that are very apparent but without hard proof of foreign influence. The conflict happening in or the issue happening in Iran, with the Iranians fighting for their liberation from the Islamic

Republic right now is bringing that into stark relief. You see these same characters out talking not about the demand for liberation for Iran, as so many American conservatives, so many Israelis and so on are all kind of cheering for, as so many people in the world are cheering for, but instead counter signaling or saying, now, how's the time to make an allyship with Russia, as Tucker Carlson just came out of nowhere and said, So you have a

open question that seems it's like there's a lot of smoke, even if we haven't seen the fire yet, that there are foreign influences coming in and kind of dictating in some degree what these people's angles are. So these people have the same kind of agendas to tear apart the Conservative movement to undermine America and its strength in the

world to set up a multi polar world order. But they also have a strong incentive to undermine President Trump's second term and the success that it could have, and any continuation into a possible next conservative administration after him.

Speaker 1

James, just a couplement has left here before our next break. But at least one more question that comes immediately to mind, which is look personally, as observing jew, I find myself just deeply grateful when I see folks who are not themselves Jewish, who have the clarity to call out to Jew hatred unambiguously and vociferously. So for instance, we had Brandon Tatum on the show May a couple months ago, and I said the exact same thing to Brandon Sethen

Babylon Bee, also a fairly recent guest. I said the same thing to him as well, there's there's there's no shortage of you guys. And I find myself just frankly, on a very personal level, but also just as an American for all the above reasons, I find myself frankly just very grateful. And I guess the question is why, you know, why do you find yourself so compelled to speak out in moments like this.

Speaker 4

You know, I feel it's very interesting because those other guys are Christian and I'm famously not, so you know, they have this other kind of religious motivation. The ties there are deep. Of course, I'm broadly culturally Christian and whatever that word means. I grew up in a Christian context, et cetera, et cetera. But I was raised with kind of a very plain spoken mother, just very you know, plain woman in a lot of regards, and she used to just say right is right and wrong is wrong.

It's not much more complicated than that. Of course, we know morals and ow things are a lot more complicated than that. But for you know, a raising, that's a pretty good message. And it's very clear to me and

has been clear to me my entire life. Not because of some mysterious you know, post war liberal order that's going to prevent the rise of the Nazis ever again, for you know, and through artificial means and power games, but just because I don't know, this sounds peculiar to have to say out loud, but Jews are people and persecuting people for something, you know, like this just doesn't make any sense. It's just wrong. It just files under

completely wrong. Plus you know all the strategic things watching you know, this coalition that we built, this thing that had all its positive momentum that was growing, get dashed on the rocks as frustrating. But right is right and wrong is wrong at the end of the day, and the right thing to do is to stand up for the freedoms and liberties of people, aside from every strategic

aspect you can think of. I mean, it's said that Jews are frequently in a society canaries in the coal mine, that if they are being threatened, everybody else is going to be threatened on the back end of that. But it's not even part of the consideration except kind of as an afterthought. Right is right, wrong as wrong. This is the right thing to do.

Speaker 2

Right is right.

Speaker 1

Wrong is wrong. It's really hard, I think, to get it any simpler than that, and it's profound, and it's exactly right, frankly, And you're also totally right that no society that has ever turned around the Jews has ever been better for it. Simply put this brand new essay actually up a tablet magazine by Mike Duram. We're going to bring a Mike on the show next week to kind of unpet that thesis at greater detail. But for now, James, it has been really nice to chat with you. Thank

you genuinely from bamb my heart. Thank you for speaking up with the clarity that you do on these issues. I know that I'm not the only one who's grateful for you. Follow James on X folks at Conceptual James, thank you for joining the Josh Amicher, James, we really do appreciate it.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Josh.

Speaker 1

Stay tuned through the break. We will be right back on the other side. Josh Holly Missouri going crazy on a doctor? What's up with that? Stay tuned, we'll unpack

it for you. Welcome back. When discussed earlier this week, the huge transgender or argument Day at the U Supreme Court on Tuesday, where are these two consolidated cases out of Idaho and West Virginia essentially presented the exact same question to the nine justices, namely, does a state law that requires only biological women to compete against fellow biological

women when it comes to athletic competition? Does that law the prohibition of biological males competing against biological females in sports, does that somehow violate the fourteenth Amendment of eighteen sixty eight in the Constitution, or Title nine, the statute that was mended to the Civil Rights Acts in nineteen seventy two.

The obvious answer is no, And despite some admittedly somewhat uncomfortable questions asked by the writer Center Justice at the hearing, I continue to think that this ruling will come out ultimately the correct way. You will find out soon enough. But it's not just women's athletic competition that is currently being torn asunder by the transgender lobby. Unfortunately, it is

also the medical profession itself. Yes, the medical profession, the profession that is most important, literally, of all the professions. Is there one that comes to mind that is more indispensibly necessary for understanding the biological distinction between male and female, between xx chromosome structure and x y, between certain types of genitalia and other types, between certain hormones and other hormones. Well, there was a stunning clip that's also going viral over

in the US. Senate Josh Hawley of Missouri, one of the most authentic Christian social conservatives, in the Senate. I'm a longtime fan of centaer holies on a personal level as well. He's going viral because he had the following exchange with a doctor who couldn't answer whether or not men can get pregnants. Go ahead and watch this one.

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Do you think that men can get pregnant?

Speaker 5

I hesitated there because I wasn't sure where the conversation was going or what the goal was. I mean, I do take care of patients with different identities. I take care of many women. I take care of people with different identities, and so that's where I paused. I think, yeah, I wasn't sure where you were going with that.

Speaker 2

Well, the goal is is the truth? So can men get pregnant?

Speaker 5

Again? The reason I pause there is I'm not really sure what the goal of the question.

Speaker 2

Goal is to establish a biological reality.

Speaker 6

You just said a moment ago that science and evidence should control not politics.

Speaker 2

So let's just test that proposition. Can men get pregnant?

Speaker 5

I take care of people with many identities.

Speaker 2

But can men get pregnant?

Speaker 5

Many women that can get pregnant, I do take care of people that don't identify.

Speaker 2

As women that can Can men get pregnant?

Speaker 5

Again, as I'm saying, let me.

Speaker 6

Just remind you testified to a moment ago. Science and evidence should control not politics. So should can men get pregnant?

Speaker 5

You're a doctor at say, science and evident and should guide medicine.

Speaker 6

I do science that evidence tell us that men can get pregnant, Biological men, can they get pregnant?

Speaker 5

I also think yes, No questions like this are a political tool.

Speaker 2

No, yes, no, questions are about the truth. Doctor. Let's not make a mockery of this proceeding.

Speaker 1

Okay, So, first of all, I mean the sheer chutzpah, The temerity of this doctor to question Josh Holly, a former state Attorney General, former clerk on the U Supreme Court, as to what is or is not an appropriate question to ask a witness testifying is early remarkable. But doctor niche Verma is not just a doctor. She is an obgyn.

This is someone who is tasked whose job is to care for women, mainly when they're pregnant, but also when they're healthy, for routine annual checkups and things like that. She is a women's doctor. And yet she cannot define what is the broader category of human beings who can get pregnant. This is very, very similar to that Q and A that we saw earlier this week between Justice sam Alito and Kathleen Hartnet, the lawyer for the ACLU, about what is a woman? The advocate for the ACLU

couldn't answer what is woman? Or what is sex? What is the definition of sex? She basically just said there that we will defer to the underlying state statute, whoever they define it. She's neglecting to objectively answer what is sex? So too, here is doctor niez Verma, who is neglecting to answer Josh Hally's very reasonable question as to whether me being a pregnant. It's said enough that that is a reasonable question in the year twenty twenty six, not

that long ago. Frankly ten years ago, fifteenth most we're really ten years ago. You could have asked a room of kindergarteners, a bunch of five year olds who are picking the nose of boogers, who are playing with the kindergarten class Bunny the rabbit, pick up their little bunnies, poop the little pebbles, and you could you could ask them, hey, Joey, hey Jane, can a man get pregnant? And they would literally answer, no, don't be silly, what are you talking about?

And here's this obgyn, a a women's doctor who cannot answer as to whether men can get pregnant. Folks, we're just talking a few minutes ago with James Lindsay of new discourses about all the rot in certain parts of the so called rights, and we call it out wherever we see it, and we're not gonna stop, because it's

really important. The reason that I care so much about calling out the rot on the right is because the real civilizational enemy is this the left, the folks who are trying to gaslight you and manipulate you into not understanding that men cannot get pregnant. It's not understanding that there are two sexes, not five, not twenty nine thousand, not three, not four two one two Xx's why that's it. Yes,

there's a brain rot happening on the right. There is a common sense rot happening on the left and been happening now for a very very long time. The whole unborn baby is a clump of cells. Argument. Catherine Pollut, the pro abortion fanatic, wrote this book a little over a decade ago, Shout your abortion, Be Proud, of it. Oh,

it's demonic. It's utterly satanic, demonic stuff. The notion that a pepubescent individual thinks that he or she is of the opposite sex and that he or she can consent with an ideologically minded parents, consent or non consent in order to engage in chest binders or puberty blockers, or hormonal therapy aka chemical castration, maybe even God for the

general mutilation. This an attempt not just to trample on God's plan for the world, which it is, not just an attempt to trample on the truth which it is, is an attempt to make you lose your mind and to bring us back again to James Lindsay. This is why I care about calling out the bad actors trying to co opt and to make in their own dystopian image the right, Because only a rite that is viable, only a right that is healthy, only a right that knows what it stands for, and just as importantly, the

corollary that which it does not stand for. Only that right, only that conservative movement can ever be equipped to take on these people. You think that you're gonna take on these utter lunatics, the people that can't answer whether menepregnant. You think that you're gonna take them on by welcoming neo nats. What they stand for lies. This is a woman who can't tell the truth, doctor niche Verma. She can't tell the truth to Josh Holly, Kathleen Hartnet, the

ACLU lawyer. She could not tell the truth to Sam Alito. They're lying because their entire ideology and world depends upon it. That is why is of the utmost importance that we on Team Civilizational Satiny stand for the opposite of lies. We stand for the truth. The truth is downstream of the Biblical inheritance. God is part of the truth. The Bible is part of the truth. Revelation is part of

the truth. That's what Western Civilization's about, isn't it. We are here to preserve this from one generation to the next. Only when we understand that will we be equipped to fight these real, real enemies of Western civilization, whether it's niche Verma, Kathleen Hartnett, or frankly even Katanjibroon Jackson, the Justice who could not answer the what is woman question at her own confirmation hearing four years ago. The right must be healthy to take on these lunatics on the left.

The two are not opposite. They say, Josh, why do you call out this focus on that. You gotta do both. They completely come together, folks, It all fits together. We have to be positioned to take on the radical left. Only then will we prevail on the civilizational struggle. I'm Josh Hammer. Have a great evening. We'll be right back tomorrow.

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