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Mayor Dyer’s High-Speed Rail Problem

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Seems like Jerry Dyer's starting to learn the harsh, cold, cruel realities of supporting different massive California infrastructure things, trying to sort of position himself in the middle be buddy buddies with Gavin Newsom story in The Bee That's kind of funny, which is about the high speed rail construction work that's been going on in downtown Fresno for a gazillion for a very long time, basically for the last

seven years. Traffic between the story and Fresno Bee by Tim Shechean. For going on seven years, traffic between downtown Fresno and its nearby historic Chinatown district has been disrupted by work on a high speed rail underpass on to Larry Street. It was a project that was initially expected to take about two years. A few blocks to the south, a similar construction project at Ventura Street is

running months behind schedule after getting started in May of twenty twenty one. The delays are becoming a major point of contention for Fresno Mayor Jerry Dyer, despite counting himself as a supporter of California High Speed Rail Authority's controversial Bullet train project.

In recent comments to the rail Authorities Board of Directors. Dyer said that he, along with residents and businesses in Chinatown and Downtown are concerned quote about the length of time and some of the road closures that we've had some for eight years. And at Church Avenue, which crosses three sets of railroad tracks south of Downtown, work on a major new overpass is also fine, falling

behind schedule since the road was closed April twenty twenty three. So then Dyer makes it sort of gives the game away, says, what's been bothering him? Quote quite frankly, I stuck my neck out as mayor to give authorization to have that street closed Church Avenue with the assurance that we would not have delays, Dyer told the REIL Agency board. And now we're months behind, so that is definitely a concern now. Shean then goes on in the article

to talk about what is actually taking all of this so long. So he goes into it and talks more and more and more about the different reasons behind

why it's taking so long. He interviews a guy from the Central Valley, the Garth Fernandez, the Central Valley Regional director for the California High Speed Rail Authority, who acknowledges the frustration over the delays in downtown, but he added the challenges that the agency and its prime contractor, Tutor Parini Zachary Parsons have run into at Tilari Inventuris Streets have proven to be a cautionary tale and it's offered valuable lessons. Oh good, well, as long as we're all learning

together. As long as we're all learning together while still making Downtown Fresno completely impossible to navigate, already already not exactly the easiest thing to navigate downtown Fresno. And then the article goes on and on and on to talk about the delays and the plan and how it's gonna get resolved and what it's gonna look

like blah blah blah blah blah. By the way, for some of this the hand ringing that's been going on about, you know, attendance at Grizzlies games and you know, the long term viability of the Grizzlies and stuff like that. It obviously and the lack of success relatively speaking over its first twenty

years of Grizzly Stadium being able to revitalize the downtown area. It definitely isn't helping that we've been working on the high speed rail station right next to Grizzly Stadium for like seven years, that it's got all this construction that's been going on for years and years and years right next to Grizzly Stadium that isn't complete.

Like yeah, I mean, it's all this stuff that's immediately southwest of the stadium along to Larry Street, all this construction that comes up traffic there in which you know, given that construction is still ongoing, still not completed, who's gonna want to buy up properties in that area? And by the way, when you drive down there, and I've driven down there quite a bit, there's a bank I go to not infrequently. Down there, it's

a ghost town. Like there are parts of it where you're driving through where there's like nothing down there. There's some industrial stuff, but then there's like these big, why various kind of semi vacant lots that have a bunch of homeless people encamped on them, and it's it's a weird almost ghost town experience driving through some parts of that sort of area sort of to the southwest of

the stadium, around where all this new construction is taking place. But what developers are going to want to buy up properties around there when this construction is still ongo Well, I don't know, maybe now's the time to buy. You can buy low. Probably now. This brings us to our good friend

Jerry Dyer. Jerry Dyer is sort of representative of this whole class of Fresno area politicians, this sort of softly kind of conservative class of politicians, Ashley, basically all of our mayors, Ashley, Swearingein, Liebrand, et cetera, who were obviously deceived by the promise of high speed rail because I think

they sort of look at their job as maraor Fresno. They look at it through the lens of how do we get funding for the city, how do we bring business to the city, And that's sort of the lens they look at it through. And when presented with high speed rail, what do they see, Well, they see state investment, state money flowing in new construction, new opportunities for growth. Local government people love infusions about side money. Okay, if you can get money from the state, if you can get

money from the federal government. Local government officials are always acquisitive, greedy for outside sources of funding. Where they don't have to increase your taxes. Why local governments have to operate in the black. They cannot go into the red. They can't do deficit and debt spending the way that the federal government can.

So when you dangle to in front of a city a pot of state money that's available to them, if you dangle in front of a city a pot of federal money that's available to them, they will move heaven and earth to go get it. And sometimes they will make, you know, uh, decisions, or support positions that are look that are a little too sunny and rosy and optimistic too much, look at sort of the short term benefit without thinking about the long term risks. I think that's kind of what every

mayor of Fresno for the last however many years. That's how they all thought of things. When it came to high speed rail, Ashley Swearingen bought it hook line and sinker. Didn't want to listen to all the people saying this is going to be way more expensive, this is going to take way longer than people say. Well, she didn't care. She saw that it would involve state money coming into Fresno for development of a fairly depressed part of the

city. She thought it could spur new investment. She was all on board, Brand Dire all think the same thing. But this is the problem. All the objections people had to high speed rail are just being played out right now. Everything takes longer to do everything. Everything takes longer to do everything, is more expensive to do than originally estimated. Everything is more complex engineering

wise than originally estimated. And it's sort of a thing of like, on the one hand, I sort of feel bad for Jerry Dyer, but at the same time, it's not like before he came into office, people didn't know that the high speed rail was a fraud proposition that was taking way longer to accomplish than everyone said it would and also with questionable benefits. So you know, to Larry Street was first closed in twenty seventeen, still closed,

Venturas Street was closed in twenty twenty one, still closed. Avenue was closed a year ago. It's supposed to be done September twenty twenty five. I guess I'm not holding my breath. And now Dyer has to live with all of this now. I mean, the high speed rail was started before him, and the wheels of that were set in motion before he came into office, so you can't necessarily blame him for any of this. But this isn't the only sort of place where Dyer is sort of again begging for state investment

because again, what what does he want? He wants He wants outside sources of revenue to help out the city. City can't. The city only has so much tax revenue available to it, It only has so much money to spend. So we've had the story over the last you know, sort of year or two about the I think it's about two hundred million dollars worth of state funding that's supposed to come to the City of Fresno for various kinds of

infrastructure things, plumbing things, et cetera. And of course Gavin Newsom late last year says, ah, sorry, we're gonna push that all back by one year. And Dyer, who has bent over backwards to be nice to Gavin Newsom, Dyer who has bent over backwards to be chummy and nice and friendly and accommodating to Joe Biden, to Gavin Newsom, never says an ill word about the guy, just doing everything in his power to be supportive of

him. He's getting screwed. He gets Gavin Newsom saying in the budgetary process, Eh, we're strapped. Sorry, Fresno, you got to wait a year. Oh it'll just be a year. Sure, And you know, again, it's hard to fault dire too much given his priorities. But given his priorities, given the position Fresno that's in, we only have so much tax revenue. If we want to do if there's a pot of state money

available, then let's go for it. I think it's more the fault really more here lies with the voters of California who initially bought this whole thing back in two thousand and four. It was the two thousand and four two thousand and eight basically this premise that a high speed rail system was going to radically transform the state of California. It was only going to cost forty billion dollars, it'd be done in just a couple of years. And again, where

are we with high speed rail? Look, not a single track is operative. And this is the thing. If we're having such a hard time getting the construction work done in Fresno, and not, by the way, in the most bustling part of the city, like this part of the city's been dead for a long time. If we can't get a construction project like this done in Fresno, how are we gonna get it done ever in San Francisco?

How is it ever gonna go through Southern California. This project is so obviously not Like, I just do not understand how this thing is ever gonna get accomplished. And maybe they just accept we're just gonna triangle through it, and it's gonna cost way more, and we'll just push through it and eventually

someday some portion of it will get accomplished. But I think my real fear is they're gonna complete Mer said to Bakersfield, they won't have the money or the will to finish anything else, and it's going to because people are almost barely are almost never going to use it. We'll dig more into this after

the break. This is the John Girardi Show on Power Talk. Story in the Bee about the massive delays that have continued to gum up construction and gum up traffic along to Larry Street, sort of southwest of Grizzly Stadium in downtown Fresno. Jerry Dyer's getting mad and this big interview with the sort of Fresno, Regional Director of the High Speed Reil Authority. So I'm going through this. Here's the basic real Why is it taking so long? Jerry Dyer's mad,

everyone's frustrated. They had all of these sort of rosy assessments for how quickly this construction would get done. But why has it taken so much longer? Okay, here's why. The High Speed Rail Authority gives all of these, uh, these grand predictions about these sections of rail that are going to get completely these you know, the sections of rail that are coming up traffic, all this construction that has to take place. They give all these rosy

assessments. Okay, it's going to be done by time. The problem is a lot of the renovations that are happening are happening near and along and to existing Amtrak rail which is owned by Union Pacific. Okay, it includes like renovating the existing you know train depot, the existing you know train station that already exists there in downtown Fresno. Okay, we have this twenty million dollar

grant from the federal government, Hell pay for it. So the High Speed Rail gave this whole plan for how it was gonna get done and by that plan, we should have been done by now. The problem is the High Speed Rail Authority can't work on Union Pacific's rail. Union Pacific has to work on it. They're not just gonna let Union Pacific is not just gonna let the High Speed Rail Authority do all this construction work like or to just follow

their plan. Union Pacific has to do it. So the uh So, basically the rail authority head for Fresno is describing that they had to have like nine or so back and forth plan designs going back and forth between Union Pacific and the rail authority, and each back and forth was like a forty five

day wait in between these dueling, competing design ideas. So what effect essentially was happening was the High Speed Rail Authority was telling everyone in Fresno, oh, yes, this will be done by this without having actually confirmed anything with Union Pacific, who actually has to okay whatever the construction plan is. So they were full of it, like they were giving these assessments but didn't actually

know how long it was going to take. So yeah, the original plans in twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen, they were great, but Union Pacific didn't agree with them. So what were we even talking about? What were they even selling? So they were selling to Jerry Dyer this whole idea that everything

would be done by a certain point, and they weren't. So yeah, I think Jerry Dyer after reading this, Jerry Dyer has a right to be ticked off because basically it seems like the high Speed Rail authority just didn't actually communicate the anything that was actually approved by the relevant people who needed to approve

it. Construction with the Church Avenue overpass, which was they also needed to construct an overpass to carry traffic up and over a confluence of the various rail lines has similarly proven more complex than the rail authorities, engineers, and contractor originally anticipated. Why do these guys keep anticipating that things won't be hard or

that things won't be harder than they anticipate. The whole history of the California High Speed Rail has been one long sequence of this was more complicated than we thought. Everything's been more complicated than they thought. And that's the thing. Like as as long as, if anything, it feels to me like the development of downtown, which politicians have been talking about wanting to revitalize downtown Fresno for I don't know as long as I have been alive, the desire to

revitalize in downtown. We need something to revitalize downtown. What about downtown revitalization blah blah blah blah. Pretty much everything southwest of Grizzly Stadium, where you know the rail the railroad lines go sort of that they kind of run, uh, you know, northwest to southeast. So everything southwest of the stadium is just being held up and in suspense while we wait for the high speed

rail. How can we revitalize anything when we've got this permanent construction project going on where we're permanently sort of waiting for the high speed rail to show up. And then I guess the big fear is, let's wave a magic wand, we wave a magic wand and we successfully complete the high speed rail station. We have a beautiful, big, shining glass high speed rail station that looks terrible and looks like terrible modern architecture that has no connection to the history

or architecture or culture of the San Joaquin Valley. It just looks like a big modernist glass tube, looks like one of the sandworms from Dune Okay, great, great job. Let's say it's all complete and it's all shiny and new. Is that gonna spur downtown revitalization? Are people going to want to build a bunch of restaurants, hotels, whatever, all around that station? Are people really gonna use it for a rail line that will basically only be

or said, to Bakersfield. I guess my fear is that no one's gonna ride this train. No one is gonna pay the extra money to take a train to Bakersfield, where presumably they'll need either someone to pick them up or they'll need to get an uber or rent a car, when they can just get in their car and drive down the ninety nine. So, even if we complete this high speed rail system, the whole premise of why we were doing high speed rail was to connect us to La. It was to connect

us to San Francisco. And at this point, if it's not gonna connect us to LA or San Francisco, what economic boon is this thing gonna be?

How is this really going to revitalize downtown? Who's going to want to build a bunch of restaurants, hotels, et cetera for a train where the only utility is if you want to take it to Bakersfield or merced I just feel like we're pinning so many of our hopes and aspirations for downtown Fresno over this huge construction project which is gumming things up all over the place in downtown, holding everything in suspended animation for a project that I don't think is really

gonna spur that much investment. Boy, it's kind of trite for a talk radio person locally to say the high speed rail is a disaster, But man, I don't even know. Even if this thing does get completed, I just don't know that it's gonna do any of the crap that they were, you know, that they were promising back when they first sold this thing, when we were earn some of the trickle down effects of President Trump's statement about

abortion earlier this week. Where does it leave individual local Republican politicians. That's next on the John Girardi Show. Obviously, I've been talking a lot about President Trump's statement about abortion that he made earlier this week, and I think the more I'm listening to it and the more I'm thinking about it, the

more disturbed I kind of get about it. There's some real trickle down effects of it that I don't think we've fully comprehended, and sort of what it means for the Republican Party for its presidential nominee for a year saying all this about saying the kinds of stuff Trump has said about abortion. So let me just kind of reiterate. Trump's position is that he's not going to pursue any

federal limits on abortion. He has also now criticized openly and he's basically said abortion is an issue for states to decide, And he's basically said he's not endorsing any particular state position for or against abortion. Well sort of. He has actually openly opposed several pro life laws now in various states. So he opposed the bill Rond De Santis signed in Florida which has limited abortion to feudal heartbeat, so no abortions after six weeks into a pregnancy when field heartbeat can

be detected. By the way, when Trump stated his opposition to that bill, which I think frankly was chiefly motivated by the fact that he was in a primary contest against Rond De Santis. So if Ronda Santis said that the sky was blue, Trump would have said it was fake news and corrupt. You know, little Rond sanctimonious was giving the fake news that the sky was blue. By the way, when Trump said his opposition stated his opposition to that law, that was the precise kind of law that was at issue in

Ohio. Ohio had a statewide ballot initiative it voted on in November twenty twenty three to get rid of their law, which was precisely the same law that was there in Florida, or more or less, the exact same statute had been passed both in Florida and in Ohio. Well, guess what. Here's Donald Trump out saying that that law is terrible, and a whole bunch of

Republicans voted to reinstate legal abortion in Ohio. There is a trickle down effect here to President Trump, who's sort of claiming that he is neutral on abortion, but he's actually actively opposing various kinds of state abortion law. Now this focus is shifting to Arizona, all right, So let me explain what's going on in Arizona. Arizona, like most states in the Union, passed a

law in the sort of around the time of the Civil War. I think it must have been around the time that Arizona became a state that outlawed abortion except to save the mother's life. Most states in the Union had a law like that on the books about abortion, and most of those laws got passed around the time of the Civil War. This law, though in Arizona, was repeatedly reaffirmed by the Arizona State legislature and at different points between its original

adoption and the issuing of Roe v. Wade. So it's not just an eighteen sixty law. It was a law that was repeatedly reaffirm by the Arizona State legislature, you know, when they were you know, reforming various legal codes and things like that, they kept reissuing it. In fact, the Arizona Legislature re asserted it reissued it in nineteen seventy seven, four years after Roe v. Wade. In spite of the fact that they couldn't enforce it. The Arizona legislature said, hey, this is the law of the land

here in Arizona. Anyway, we can't enforce it because we've got this rov. Wade decision on the books, but this is our state law. The Arizona State Supreme Court ruled that that law Yes, originally passed in the nineteenth century but repeatedly reaffirmed by the Arizona legislature as recently as nineteen seventy seven, was still in effect and could be enforced that because Roe v. Wade was now overturned, that law is still on the books. It's still valid law,

and it's a pretty comprehensive abortion law. No abortion except to save the life of the mother. Donald Trump and his Arizona lapdog, Carrie Lake have now openly come out opposing that law, which, let me just remind you all the platform Republican position is that to ban abortion except for cases to save

the mom's life. Donald Trump is opposing it, and again it makes you think, well, he just had this video statement saying abortion is going to be left to the states, refusing to tell people how to vote when it came to various state abortion references, telling people repeat it, you got to follow your heart. But then he's jumping into these controversies in individual states to

say, yeah, this is bad and they got to fix that. So I guess this is my problem is that a lot of people are trying to defend Trump and say, look, Trump's just trying to be pragmatic here, like he's just trying to be politically smart. He's trying not to not to tie himself to an unpopular political position. He'll still do what he can as a president, but he's not gonna commit himself to doing things that are politically unfeasible anyway, just to play cap pro lifers. But he's gonna, you

know, try and stay neutral on the abortion question. Just let states duke it out. That's the appropriate venue for duking it out. The problem is he's not really doing that. He's actively undercutting pro lifers in the States. He's actively undercutting them in Florida, he's actively undercutting them in Ohio. He's actively undercutting them in Arizona. Now, and the thing that's scaring me is actually Carrie Lake. Let me describe this all right. Carrie Lake is running

for the US Senate seat in Arizona this year. She unsuccessfully ran for governor two years ago. Carry Lake is maybe one of the most Trump aligned people running for Senate. She's constantly at mar A Lago. She says what Trump says. She follows the Trump line scrupulously. Okay, She's now come out and pledged she is not going to vote for any national pro life legislation. I just want to remind all of you any national pro life regulation. I

just want to remind all of you. Republicans in the House and Senate have been voting on federal abortion restrictions for I don't know, the last forty years, the last excuse me, the last fifty years. Republicans in the House in the Senate have been voting for those things. Your elected Republican representatives have voted for these things multiple multiple, multiple times from the most and Donald Trump

when he was president, supported them repeatedly. Okay, the idea that the federal government doesn't have a role regulating abortion is all of a sudden now completely in vogue among Republicans. And why did you pro lifers ever think that we would want to support a federal restriction on abortion because Republicans voted for those things

multiple times. Donald Trump supported such initiatives multiple multiple times Congress. And also, there's a sort of a kind of lack of precision in saying this that really gives me concern. What do you mean you're not gonna vote for any federal abortion restriction. You're not going to vote to cut off federal funding for planned parenthood. You're not going to vote to limit federal funding for abortion via the High Amendment. That's a federal restriction on abortion. Now, Lake did

say she wouldn't vote for any federal funding for abortion. Okay, that's good, I guess. I am concerned though, that if this is what Carrie Lake's doing, how many other people running for the House, how many other people running for the Senate are going to start to contour their positions on abortion to perfectly align with what Trump's saying? Is this going to what's going to

happen to the Republican Party platform this year at the Republican convention? Assuming we have a platform which we declined to write in the last election, which was I think idiotic, what's the platform position going to be on abortion? Now? Do we actually support restricting abortion? Now? It seems like we're not gonna it's not a federal job. Now when we return, I want to talk about the selective federalism and the selective pragmatism of the Trump side when it

comes to abortion. I'll explain what I mean after the break. This is the John's Already show on Power Talk. There's a selective pragmatism to this new sort of Trump party line about not supporting federal restrictions on abortion. There's selective pragmatism and a selective adherence to Tenth Amendment style federalism. So let me start

with the federalism idea. The federalism idea is all these people trying to advance this sort of constitutional argument for why Congress shouldn't pass some kind of law to try to limit abortion at say, fifteen weeks or twenty weeks. The argument is, hey, the federal government regulates way more stuff than they should.

We've expanded the Commerce clause part of the Constitution that says Congress can pass laws to regulate interstate commerce, which the massive expansion of what constitutes interstate commerce has allowed Congress to really grow in its power to the detriment of states Congress regulates too much. Abortion is one of these things that shouldn't be regulated as commerce, in spite of the fact that abortion is a major, major international industry

with huge corporate entities that provide abortions across state lines. And it seems actually like perfectly the kind of thing that is interstate commerce that would be reasonable for Congress to regulate, but no, Congress shouldn't it. It's a matter for

the states. All these Republicans who have voted for years to regulate other kinds of industries that are no more or less interstate than the abortion industry is all of a sudden they're putting on their Thomas Jefferson hats or and all the tenth Amendment federalism. Okay, well, we got to be really careful that we don't have Congress regulate abortion. Meanwhile, out of the other side of the mouth, you're saying, yes, let's support federal legislation to support IVF clinics.

Oh, supporting IVF clinics, that is interstate commerce. But abortion is not. Supporting IVF much more popular position. Yes, that's interstate commerce. Opposing abortion not as popular a position. Oh oh the tenth Amendment totally. Well that's not what the commerce closes. But that's is that interesting? Oh? Should we really? I just know it's a constitutional scholar. I just don't know if that's something Congress should regulate. So we have this selective adherence

to federalism when it comes to abortion, and also selective pragmatism. So this is what I can't stand. I understand the Trump camps strong adherence to the position that the twenty twenty election was stolen. They have made no bones about the fact that they're still gonna keep carrying and waving that flag. In fact that there's some reporting that the RNC was like vetting people based on do you think the election in twenty twenty was stolen? And if you didn't think it

was stolen, then they weren't gonna hire you. Like we are firmly committed to this proposition because Trump is still bitter and angry over losing the election, and he's still carrying that flag. And by the way, I would say, even if you do think that the election was flat out stolen, I e. There was provable fraud that changed the outcome, which I do think there was fraud. I'm open to discussions of whether it's fraud. It is

clearly a wildly unpopular position to hold. How many candidates lost in twenty twenty two because they kept going on and on about the twenty twenty election. The guy, the guy ran for governor in Pennsylvania, Carrie Lake in Arizona. So we lose all these races in twenty twenty two because people are going on and on about the twenty election being stolen. Stop telling me that abortion is

unpopular and that's why we need to not talk about it. If you're just not letting go of the twenty twenty election fraud line of talking, even if you're right, and you might be, most of the country doesn't want to hear it, So pleased, I don't want to get lectures in pragmatism for people taking the most unpragmatic position possible on that. That'll do it for John Girardi Show. See you next time on Power Talk.

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