How Much Does Thanksgiving Dinner Actually Cost?

When he's Donald Trump, he's the guy going around saying he wants mass deportations, he wants to secure the border, and liberals are dumbfounded by this. They are utterly completely baffled. They cannot fathom how in God's green Earth this could possibly be. So much of the media messaging we have on the Latino vote the concept of Latinos as persons

of color within the liberal categories of intersectionality. So, of those who don't know, intersectionality is kind of the liberal calculus for are you some kind of historically oppressed minority that we liberals will lavish with favor, with preference both socially, culturally, politically, economically, legally, et cetera. Latinos are deemed to be an oppressed minority for purposes of stuff like the California Voter Rights Act

or something. The Chinese aren't the legacy of the Chinese in California being an oppressed minority is far greater than that, at least as significant, I should say, as that of Latinos. But no Latinos are deemed to be this oppressed minority. African Americans are deemed to be this suppressed minority, and liberals, in various ways try to give some kind of legal

favorite advantage. Let's note, though, that a lot of that legal favor or advantage that liberals give to these historically oppressed groups so called, is based on a certain kind of deal. And the deal is these all have to be people who vote for Democrats. All of the various California voter rights acts that allow them to kind of that prevent us in California from drawing reasonable looking redistricting

lines to reflect geography or something. Basically, California blocks California almost mandates jerry andering in ways that favor liberals because

you cannot break up the power of minority votes. So basically to correct the historic wrongs that that basically various African American communities in the South experience with redistricting, So redistricting political redistricting, the redrawing of the lines for members of the House representatives members of your state legislature historically is always done by the state legislature and it was governed by the political process. It wasn't really something that's

reviewable by the courts. Well. The problem is that in the South, very often politicians would draw the electoral map in ways that would mitigate, dilute, minimize African American voting powers that they take in African American neighborhood and chop it up into basically so that this one African American neighborhood enjoy Georgia is all of a sudden, it's part of ten different congressional districts that's sliced up like a pizza, so that there's no one district where African Americans have

any power whatsoever. Or maybe you shove all the African Americans into one district and then all the other districts are totally white and African American power is minimized in that way. There were all kinds of shenanigans like that, that sort of racist white powers that be would visit upon African American. They're African American brethren in the South,

and it was bad. It was a bad thing. This is happening though, in California almost the reverse, where basically, because of that historic wrong, Latinos in California, basically reasonable kinds of redistricting and district line drawing are not allowed to happen under the pretext of oh, you're breaking up Latino political power in the San Joaquin Valley. How could you? You can't, So you can't do that. So we have to draw our redistricting lines to give maximal power to Latinos.

And really the goal of this is, well, let's get as many Democrats to vote as possible, maximize Democrat political might as best we can. The whole premise for Latinos being part of the liberal oppressed minority family, the whole premise is they will vote for us. Well, now that Latinos aren't voting for Democrats, what do they do. You're already starting to hear rumblings, particularly from African American liberals, that Mexicans Latinos are should not be viewed as quote

persons of color. Already you're starting to see a shift about the problematic reality of misogyny among Latino households and Latino families. All of a sudden, this monolith is breaking. Now here's why liberals cannot fathom it. Liberals can't fathom all of this because most of American liberal political culture is dictated by liberals in the Northeast. Yeah, there are liberals in California, but they're not setting the tone for

politics for the rest of the country. That tone is being set by liberals graduating from IVY leagues, college professors who went to IVY leagues and are teaching in schools in the Northeast, maybe going into the Midwest, But most of American political American liberal political culture is being dictated by the Northeast. Even the political culture, the political culture I would say of academic hard lefty Latinos in California, I think is very much influenced by that culture. And

here's the thing. Take this from me as someone who I lived in the Midwest for seven years. I lived in Massachusetts for two years, visited New York, a lot, visited Boston, a lot visited Washington, DC, a lot lived in Massachusetts for two years. I think a lot of Northeast liberals don't understand Latino voters in America at all, because they rarely ever actually encounter them, hang out with them, talk with them. They view by the way, this is

me characterizing them, not me characterizing me. They view brown as brown, and they even this belated adoption of the term brown as a reference to Latinos, which I feel like twenty five years ago would have been highly politically incorrect just to call Latinos brown, But that's the language that's been adopted by academic liberals. The plight of black and brown people and brown people just means Latinos Latinos broadly.

I think they fundamentally Northeast liberals fundamentally don't understand Latinos in this country, and specifically though they don't really understand Mexican Americans Latinos coming who either have come or are coming, or came generation or two ago from the southern border, most of them from Mexico, with whom do Latinos in the Northeast interact chiefly different kinds of Latinos, And this

is part of the problem. Northeast liberals paint with this very broad Latino brush as if a comedian telling a joke. Remember the comedian who told the joke at the Trump rally at Madison Square Garden. He told the joke about Puerto Rico, and he said Puerto Rico is a big, floating island of trash, which actually is kind of funny, given that Puerto Rico has massive problems with waste management

and how they're disposing of waste. They do have problems with a lot of trash loading in around the island. But the reaction from Northeast white liberals and a lot of this I think was kind of wish casting, hoping that this would hurt Donald Trump is say this is going to turn Latino voters off across the country, when I'm just laughing thinking about my Mexican my friends who are of Mexican descent, they don't care about someone making a joke about Puerto Ricans. That would be like an

Italian in their eyes. That would be like an Italian getting upset that someone made a joke about a Spaniard or a Frenchman being upset that someone made a joke about an Italian. There's no It's not like there's some kind of pan Latino brother unified brotherhood where an insult against a Puerto Rican is an insult against all peoples

who speak Spanish. No, the Mexican American experience and the Puerto Rican experience are wildly different experiences racially, historically, governmentally how it relates to immigration, and Puerto Rico is in American territory that there's not as much immigration stuff with someone who's a Puerto Rican. As such, the experience of being a Dominican versus a Mexican are entirely different things.

A Puerto Rican versus a Mexican different things, as South American Venezuelan versus a Mexican different things, highly different things.

And I think a lot of Northeast liberals their primary interface with Latinos, a lot of it are is with the kinds of Latinas who live on the East Coast and particularly in the Northeast, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans and others who are very very left, who even when they become citizens, remain very very left, who continue to have this constant interplay of family who are coming back and forth, who are flying back and forth where illegal immigration issues impacting,

whether it's Dominicans or South Americans, the kinds of people who are in who are Spanish speaking but in New York for example, or Massachusetts for example. It's a very different experience from American citizens of Mexican descent who live in the American Southwest, who live in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, California, Colorado, Nevada, et cetera. I think it's actually a fairly ra I

hate just throwing around that everyone's racist, everyone's racist. I think it is a somewhat let me put it this way, I think it is an ignorant viewpoint that Northeast liberals take that just views, well, they're someone who from a country that used to be owned by Spain, and they speak Spanish, so therefore they're all the same. They don't say that they would be a horror, of course, I don't believe that, but the way they act kind of

indicates that's what they do. Believe that the Cuban experience is miles different from the Mexican American experience. So when Donald Trump says I want to deport the huge influx of illegal immigrants who came into this country under the Biden administration, the idea that they are dumbfounded at the idea that Mexican Americans, American citizens of Mexican descent, background, ancestry, whatever. They are flabbergasted at the idea that they are shifting

more towards the Trump position than otherwise. When we return, I'll kind of explain a little bit about why that is next on the John Girardi Show. Liberals are dumbfounded and angry at the massive shifts that are happening in the Latino vote. Donald Trump got forty five percent of the Latino vote in this last election. Why how did this happen? I think it's because now they are dumbfounded.

I think, as I was explaining in the first segment, I think liberals are dumbfounded at this because they're from the Northeast. They really have very little experience living in a community that has a high, high, high, high percentage of Latinos. I grew up in the Fresno area. I'm pretty sure Fresno at this point is majority Hispanic, close

to that, and it's totally not unfamiliar to me. I grew up going to parts of town or everyone's speaking Spanish, or a store where everyone speaking Spanish, or a restaurant where everyone' speaking Spanish. I grew up going to school with families who were Mexican families who had family back in Mexico, Families who were here and sometimes go back there for vacations. Families where the husband's Mexican and the wife is you know, Polish or whatever. You know. It

just everywhere. That's it's just part. I'm hardly some rare, you know, icon of a diverse childhood or something that that's just the experience of growing up in the Sawaquin Valley. Tons of people you know are Mexicans. Probably most statistically speaking, maybe most of the people you know are Mexican or of Mexican heritage or blah blah blah blah blah. You know, forgive me if I'm not using all the proper uh dotting my eyes and crossing my teas of political correct

you know, descriptors. And the thing that Northeast liberals are ignoring, I think is that there is a massive difference between a person of Mexican descent whose grandfather immigrated, so now they're you know, second third generation whose grandfather immigrated. But they maybe it's someone who's my aid. Maybe it's someone in their mid thirties. They were born in America, they were raised in America, they went to American schools. They can speak some Spanish, but they grew up mostly speak

in English. They're working a job just like anybody else. They went to college or you know, trade school or high school, whatever. But the idea that someone like that, who is counted within you know, survey data as a quote Latino voter. The idea that someone like that, let's take that example. A third, someone whose grandfather immigrated to the United States, who is of Mexican descent, but again born here, raised here, when the schools here, is working

a job, just trying to get by. Someone that many generations in might be married to a white person. They might not be, but they might be. They probably have white friends. They are just working a job just like anyone else does. They're not working the fields. They're here legally. Also, of course they're here legally, they were born here. They're

American citizens. The idea that someone like that is identifying with the cause of someone who entered this country illegally just fifteen minutes ago and saying that is my people, that is my person whom I'm sticking up for. That's the person I most identify with politically, is this immigrant who just came in ten minutes ago against the law who came in pretending it was an asylum claim when really it wasn't. He just wanted to come here for

economic reasons. Yes, that's my kindred spirit that I'm gonna vote to protect to make sure he doesn't get deported. No, why would someone who just hap is an American who happens to be of Mexican descent, but who's concerns when it comes to his work, the economy, inflation, his job, et cetera. Why would he be having his vote be driven by the immigration plight of someone who's just arriving

into this country, you know, fifteen minutes ago. And that's not to say that just because you've been in this country a couple generations, you hate all immigrants and you don't care about immgants. And that's not what I'm saying. And by the way, I'm not saying that like we should be brutalizing immigrants or you know, horrifically separating people

blah blah blah blah bla, but fair immigrant it. The Biden administration let in huge waves of immigrants illegally and under under speciously legal theories like the border was an absolute disaster for the Biden administration. For Trump to take corrective action against that is not crazy, It is not punitive, Nor do I think even I would make the contention it's not in opposition to my Christian beliefs about loving our fellow man. Countries don't have to take in an

unlimited number of immigrants. But I think this is the thing that liberals don't understand. Just because you happen to be of Mexican descent doesn't mean you will always end forever continue to view the problems of immigration at the southern border as the most important thing in your life, Nor will you continue to have the same thoughts, viewpoints ideas about Southern border immigration that maybe someone would if he were a first generation immigrant or someone who's not

yet a citizen. Let's recall everyone voting in the election, or hopefully everybody voting in the election, even if they are of Mexican descent, is an American citizen. People of Mexican descent who are American citizens. Yes, maybe there are some of them who really are animated by the border and are really animated by the idea that Trump will take action to deport people in ways that they think are wrong. And look, Trump still got I think Harris still got a majority of the Latino vote, but a

lot of them just aren't that way. They're Americans now, they're integrated into American society, and they have the same exact kind And I feel like an idiot lecturing Fresno about this, but I'm sure more than Havy listening to this are Mexicans, and you have this of Mexican heritage, of Mexican descent, whatever, but you're American citizens and you

have the same concerns that I have. You have the same concern about your job, You have the same concerns about the economy, You have the same concerns about inflation. You have the same concerns I have about taxes and all the other things that citizens vote on all the time. You have opinions about stuff like abortion, you have opinions about stuff like the whole panoply of American issues, and those are the things you vote for. You're not only voting necessarily on the basis of immigration.

of Latino you are. The experience of a Cuban in Florida, a Mexican American living in Arizona or Nevada, and someone from the Dominican who lives in New York City are not comparable. It's like comparing a Frenchman, an Italian and a Spaniard. When we return how to make a Thanksgiving dinner for fifty eight dollars for ten people? Next on The John Girardi Show, I hope you're all enjoying this

Thanksgiving week. As you're enjoying it, I wanted to regale you with maybe the stupidest little bit of regime propaganda. We're not gonna get many more efforts like this. Occasionally, you'll see when a Democrat administration is in power and the economy is doing badly, they'll present these infographics about how things are actually doing fine. I remember, I think this was early in the Biden administration when inflation was

really jumping up. How they were trying to present these infographics to say, actually, the cost of a Fourth of July cookout is actually not higher than it was last year at all. Here's the prices of everything. Your Fourth of July cookout should cost this much. Average cost of hot dogs is this much, Average cost of Hamburger ground

beef is this much. And they would present all these obviously either out of date or inaccurate or unrealistic pricing lists, And it was various like Biden administration media facing efforts to try to convince people are, actually the economy is not that bad. Oh, this inflation thing, it's all in your head. Back in twenty twenty one, when they were just trying to convince, oh, what inflation, there's no inflation happening.

Then yeah, obviously there's massive inflation happening. Well, it looks like we're going to get our last sort of grand attempt at this from I guess some liberals who have something to prove. So this is from the American Farm Bureau Federation. Now this is being pushed out by them. I'm not sure why. I see a lot of Trump sort of Biden surrogates Democrat operatives like Frank Luntz, for example, trying to push this out. Actually, I don't think Frank

Lunz is actually a genuine Democrat operative. He's just kind of a media operative, And it's part of this whole liberal thing of trying to stay well. I'm inflation is not that bad America. This is the liberal explanation for way Kamala Harris lost. Americans think the economy is bad, but actually the economy is much better than Americans think that. You don't believe, you're lyon eyes. The economy is actually doing great. You're all wrong that. That's basically the liberal

messaging on this. I don't know why the American Farm Bureau is trying to sort of play into this by publishing this stuff. Anyway. Peace published by NBC News, written by Jingfeng, who writes you may not know it by looking at sticker prices in grocery aisles, but Thanksgiving dinner

is more affordable than it has been in years. The cost of this year's holiday feast estimated at fifty eight dollars and eight cents for a ten person gathering five dollars eighty one cents ahead, dropped five percent since last year, the lowest level since twenty twenty one. Let me repeat this stat that they're trying to push on us. They're trying to make you think this is even close to reasonable. Fifty eight dollars for Thanksgiving dinner for ten people, this

fine Thanksgiving week. Any of you who are listening to this, is that what you are spending on your Thanksgiving? Is that what you've spent? Like, raise your hand, if you only spend fifty eight dollars, if you're if you were the one prepping Thanksgiving, I'll even go farther. You're making Thanksgiving for five people. It's just you, your spouse, your three kids, your dog, and the white picket fence, all right, just your home, your no grandma, no cousins.

She and my mom are kind of the shadow producers. All my best segment ideas come from them. Here's the breakdown of how the American Farm Bureau thinks your Thanksgiving dinner will go cost wise, A sixteen pound turkey twenty five dollars and sixty seven cents all right. First of all, twenty five pound, sixteen pound turkey that only costs twenty five dollars. That's less than two dollars a pound. I don't know how many people are getting turkeys for that cheap.

That's a pretty cheap turkey. Also, a sixteen pound turkey for ten people, I don't think that's enough turkey. You probably need a bigger turkey to feed ten people. Let's remember, I mean of that sixteen pound turkey, how much of that turkey is bones and stuff? How many pounds of that sixteen is bones? All right, so everyone's gonna get let's say it's I don't know, you know, let's say eight pounds of that are gonna be edible. So eight pounds of meat for ten people. That's a bit scant.

I don't know. I guess it depends on the people. Think you might need a bigger turkey than that. And again, twenty five dollars for a sixteen pound turkey, less than two dollars a pound. That's pretty cheap. That's like a buck fifty Almo, that's a little more than a buck fifty. No, a buck buck fifty, a gobble double fifty. All right, cranberries, we're getting one twelve ounce can of cranberries for two thirty five. How's that feeding ten people? That's not gonna work.

Three pounds of sweet potatoes two dollars and ninety three cents. Carrots and celery a half pound each eighty four cent. No, one's getting just a half pound of carrot and a half pound of celery for what for as part of the stuffing? Green peas one pound is a dollar seventy three? Again, this is ten. Is everyone gonna get one tenth of a pound of string beans? Two nine inch pie shells three dollars and forty cents, but only one can a pumpkin pie mix, which is four fifteen. You need more

than that? What if you have the temerity to make some kind of pie other than a pumpkin pie, you gotta buy. Apples, you gotta buy you might want to buy something other than already made pie crust. One gallon of whole milk, three twenty one, half a pint of whipping cream, a buck eighty one, a dozen dinner rolls for sixteen. This is not enough food, all right, anyone who's listening to this, there's no way that you didn't drop at least one hundred bucks on your Thanksgiving dinner.

I mean, look, unless look, I know there are families out there who are struggling who maybe they and they're wonderful charitable drives that we're seeing all over that we've seen all over the Sanwakin Valley this Thanksgiving for giving people turkeys and giving food, and that's that's wonderful. But for people who are buying their own way, people who are going to Costco, Save Mart, Vaughn's, whatever, you know whatever for their Thanksgiving shopping. And I'm not talking bougie plate,

I'm not talking your Whole Foods Thanksgiving, all right. I'm just normal middle of the road grocery stores, all right. You're spending way more than fifty eight dollars. And it's this whole thing, this whole narrative that was so insulting and defensive throughout the election season, which is that well, inflation is fixed. We fixed inflation. These people are just getting so upset about inflation and it doesn't make any sense. Well, this is the problem with inflation. It's not like we're

ever going to have deflation. So you can tell me it's okay, inflation is now under control. It's only going up two percent. Well, it went up. The prices went up like much more than two percent, and they're still up to that really high level. Our prices aren't going down. And that's the frustrating thing, is that the prices for everything are still high and real wages still haven't caught up with those increases in price. So it's like this

whole narrative was attempted to be constructed. It was one of the major economic bases of the Hairs campaign was to try to say that the economy is really not that bad. And there was only so much you could push it because I'm sure when it was you know, when it was workshopped, the focus group response was probably terrible. It's really dismissive, it's really demeaning to just tell people, no, no, no,

no no. We know that you're hurting. We know that you're seeing how much you're spending on your grocery bill. We know you're seeing all the impacts of stuff that you used to be able to buy just very easily, and now you just can't afford to splurge on it all the time. We know that you're seeing all this, but no, no, no, no, no, don't believe that. Don't believe

you're lion eyes. I mean, when I go to the grocery store now and I see pork, you can't get a pork chop practically for less than five dollars a pound. When pork used to be like the most economical way for people to get produce, you know, you could get pork chops for two dollars a pound, two or three dollars a pound. It was a very affordable meat. Chicken, you can't get boneless chicken anymore, for it's very rare to get bone less chicken for under like four bucks

a pound. And beef, I mean, forget about it. I mean, beef is always crazy expensive. There's no more getting chuck roast. I mean, occasionally you'll get a sale and you can get a massive chuck roast for like three or four for four bucks a pound, rarely three something. It's usually in the four and you get it and you stick it in your freezer and you do your best. But like you know, you're just not getting those options anymore.

And it's a combination of a lot of things, a combination of California laws that are changing the ways that pork has to be raised, which is making everything more expensive. Gas is getting more expensive. Therefore the cost of everything goes up. Everything, everything has gone up, and it just seems so offensive to try to put out these sort

of infographics. Oh well, if you just have one gallon of milk for ten people, and one half pint of whipping cream for ten people, and one pumpkin pie for ten people, and one relatively not that huge turkey for ten people, one box of stuffing for ten people, oh yeah, you can get by with the Thanksgiving dinner that cost

fifty eight bucks. Get out of here. There is hardly there is basically no family who's who paid their way for Thanksgiving, who was spending less than three digits there's no way when we return a thought about Thanksgiving family conversations next on The John Jubwardy Show this week, as you're gathered together with your families. Also, it seems like schools are taking way more time off for Thanksgiving than

back in my back in my day. Back in my day, kids would go to school Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, and then you'd only get Thursday and maybe Friday off. But now it seems like everyone's got the whole week off. So you're probably gonna have lots of dinners with family and friends over the course of this long weekend end. Here, this long week of Thanksgiving celebrations. I'll just throw in my two cents here. You know, the old saying that

politics and religion, You shouldn't discuss politics and religion. I will say this, don't let this election be the occasion for Are you boomer parents out there antagonizing your millennial kids more new millennial kids listening antagonizing your boomer parents. You know, you only get so many of these get togethers with your parents, especially any of you millennials listening. Okay, you only get so many of these dinners with your

mom and dad, and trust me. You'll regret the ones that had sort of antagonism, and you'll really look fondly with love and affection on the ones that had a lot of love. I haven't lost my dad this year. I'm more aware of this. So don't let Thanksgiving dinner be the occasion for political fighting. Just don't do it. That'll do it, John Girardi Show, See you next time on Power Talk.