#2495 - Tim Burchett

Podcast. The Joe Logan experience.

Thank you for having me, brothers. Big honor. Thank you. An honor for me too. Very excited about this. Very excited to talk to you. There's so many different things to discuss. Yeah. Do you know what is going to be released? So supposedly this is the week of some kind of disclosure. Can you give us any insight as to what? Oddly enough, I got a call. that tomorrow at three o'clock I'm gonna be briefed over the phone by um I think one of Hedgeh's top dog

go over some stuff with me that they've got and and I have no earthly idea. I I don't want everybody to get their hopes up. I don't have a lot of faith in in our government.

President Trump's always been great to me. He's never lied to me, but I I don't know that he knows the right questions to ask and the right people to talk to because I mean this thing's been covered up at least since nineteen forty seven and I just don't think they're gonna The war pimps at the Pentagon and everybody else they just don't give up.

How w how did you come to n understand all this stuff? Like what was your understanding of it before you got into government? I had pretty cool parents. Um right now they would uh daddy was in a World War Two Marine and Mama flew an airplane during the Second World War. I mean they were they were badasses. My daddy was a Stone Cold killer. I mean he was the real deal. He was on Peleliu and Okinawa in the Marine Corps and of course Mama's oldest brother Roy got killed fighting the Nazis.

And Mama did her part, just a little country girl, didn't have electricity'til she's a senior in high school. So I've kinda lived the American dream. But they would let me you know, they let me get bloodied up and then they would Patch me up and let me go. You know, I I could ride my bike to the library or the library if you're from East Tennessee. And uh

And it was, you know, about a mile from the house and they go in there and they have these books set up and they had all this stuff on you know, all this wild stuff and there was a book on UFOs and I just picked it up and started reading it. I probably wasn't I don't know, seven or eight years old. And I just always followed it. You know, the the magazine articles and and I'd go out at night and hope to see a UFO. Never did, never have, um until

some of the briefings I've been in. But um and then I'm walking down the street and Can I mention another news source is that okay. I was walking down the street and T M Z was there was a guy there, um, this black fella, his name's Colin. He's a buddy of mine. He doesn't work for them anymore, but he was filming

And he said, Hey, Congressman, he said, You wanna make a comment on the UFO thing? He couldn't get anybody to comment. And I said, Why sure. I said, they're gonna issue or tell you they're gonna issue you a report.

and it's gonna be loaded and everybody's freaking out. It's gonna be the greatest thing, it's gonna be total disclosure. And then they're gonna put something out. It looked like somebody shot it with a Dadgum twelve gauge. It's just gonna have holes in it. It's all redacted. And I said,

And they're not gonna put it out this week. It'll be weeks later and that's exactly what they did. They had a report I felt like had some information in that was new to the public and uh And they um did what they always do, they hit it, covered it up and then F ev everybody saw that interview and I said on it I said um That's the one we were talking about bases in the ocean?

No, no, no, no, no. That's a different one. As it is it's totally different. This is just out on the street corner. And then I started getting calls from people literally all over the world. I mean I've I've talked to legislators in Russia over this issue and then people

uh people start just stop me on street corners and say, Hey man, I really appreciate you going for disclosure. I have doctors tell me this, I have lawyers, engineers, I have military people that have seen things that they can't describe. I've had members of Congress You know, there's a few bullies in Congress they'll make fun of me and say smart elec stuff, but

Put it out there to your people. It's fi over fifty five percent of the American population feels like we're not alone. I mean, seriously, you go out there and look at those every night, my dog. They gotta take a leak. They never wanna take a leak at like nine o'clock. It's always three o'clock in the morning. Look at those dadgum stars, man. And the light from those stars left there before the time of Christ. And the light from some of those stars the stars have already

combusted. I mean they're not even there anymore. You know, light years to us is is something that's hard to understand. And we are more we are just, you know, one grain of sand on a billion B. And I still don't think we're the best that God can do. I mean you know, I just can't imagine we're his shining uh We're we're we're the one they put on the mantle. Oh look, you made humans. Well, you know, we've kind of screwed things up. So I I you know, and I um

And I read my Bible and a lot of the Christian folks knock me. They talk about it's demons and I say, Well, I'm good with Jesus. I'm not worrying about demons. I'm not gonna worry about that. I don't think they're demons. I don't uh why would they they don't have to fly around in some craft uh

To you know, it's just to me it's it's hard to imagine. But the um the underwater thing was I was I was getting briefed by an uh it was a former admiral came into my office. And Joe, it was a it was a very friendly conversation and I'm always a little couched because or a little I hold back a little bit because I think there's a psyop going on with some of these departments. I was uh briefed by one of our alphabet agencies not long ago and the final thing was

Somebody said, Well well why don't we got more information? says, We just don't have the funding for that, Congressman. And you know, it's uh and I know they're reading the polling data and they're saying, you know, well Let's shake loose the money tree for us and that's that's part of it too. And I warn people about that. But um I guess in a nutshell, that's pretty much it.

So when you first got in how long have you been in government for? Uh well eight years in in um Congress. I was in our state legislature in Tennessee sixteen years, and then I was county mayor. So was it when you got into Congress that you first started getting inside information about what's going on? Yeah. So that was was that eight years ago or like when was that?

Probably six years ago. Five or six no let's see. It was during Trump's first administration, so it would have been about eight years. And do you remember what it was? Do you remember how you were introduced to it? Uh yeah. Um We we raised we just raised total hell about it. And then Why? Because it's a cover up. Nobody would give us information. What made you think it was a cover up? Why did you think that there was a

I just don't trust government. I've been in government most of my life and I just don't trust. I don't know. I understand that, but like was there something that led you to want to pursue this particular subject? No, just it kinda pursued me. After I did that T M Z interview, people started calling me and then people would um I would get phone calls from people. But the TMZ interview was fairly recent.

No, no, no, no, no. That was that was one that was that was that was what started it all. It was seven or eight years ago. I'm sorry. I don't I didn't explain that very well. So so then so but you had an interest from the time you were a child and then getting into government, what was like the first introduction where you had a s an idea that there's something going on?

When I started asking questions and um and we just get to run around. Yeah. Like um What is what is this? Where are you seeing these things? And we would get people I would I had I had an interesting em uh meeting in my office With some people that were

uh nationally known and they came by to see me and they just wanted to talk to me about it. And I was um and and they started telling me things and then I had a group come to my house. I said, Y'all just come by the office in D C and we'll talk And they said, We don't feel comfortable doing that. And they came by the house.

And they said, Can we hook up to your um television? And I said, Well, sure, you know and they hooked up the computer to it and they were showing me um they were showing me objects that were flying at in in Granted, I'm not a you know, I'm not an astrophysicist by any stretch of imagination, but they were showing me things that were flying at at speeds that were just

that nothing compares. And the and the angles that they were taking would literally and I've said this before and it grosses people out, but it would turn you or me into a catch up package. I mean we you know, you go this way and then boom you're going this way. and we have no no capability of any of it. And now I've been briefed so many times from on and different different groups. Um, you know, you know, I we've we scrub missions because these things are out there. We um

And then we tell everybody that's involved to keep your mouth shut. And then if you're a pilot and you come back and say, Hey, I've seen this you immediately pulled off the flight line. I'm not a pilot or military person, but flight line um is what I call it. They're not able to fly and they're given a psych evaluation. And they're given an eight hour they call it a debriefing. It's I've been told by

Some of the officers have been involved. It's really just an interrogation. And then you got that hanging on your record. So it influences them to stop. Oh they just keep your mouth shut. I literally had a guy tell me, Joe, that he um he said his um recorder, it was an older style plane and he said it I think he said it was close to his right knee.

And when he got that on his recorder, he started smashing it with his right knee to discombobulate it so that it wasn't even'cause he didn't want anything he did not need it. He saw it. he didn't need it in in on his record. Even if he saw it and it was on a dadgum tape, they they drag you in. And so you know, myself, Luna and um Matt Gates went down to Florida to be A brief by uh Matt was told that some some pilots had seen some things and they had some photographs.

And so we go down there and and again we go in. I told Matt, I said, Matt, they don't give up this stuff easy. We're gonna go down there and I have a bad feeling they're gonna turn us or out turn us out. Well we went down there and Joe they briefed us on some very very serious issues that they were dealing with with the Chinese and um and and communist infiltration and things going on um around a around Florida in in the in the ocean.

And but they didn't ever have the the uh they wouldn't bring the pilots in. And Matt said, Hey, uh I understand all this, but this is not why we came down here. And Matt's uh you can say what you want to about Matt Gates, but he's And he's a great orator and he's a great attorney and he just started flailing on them and he told'em, he said, Here's what's gonna happen

You're gonna jerk me around. And I said I'm gonna subpoena you all, and we're gonna call you all back to Washington. And I remember looking over in the corner at the suit. And I and I said and I I called'em spooks'cause they were obviously some sort of military intelligence or CIA and I leaned over to Matt and I said,

the spooks are getting nervous, brother, uh'cause they were kinda shifting around and they shut us down. They said, No, we're not gonna do it And Matt said, I'm calling whoever Big Air Force was, he Matt it was on the um on one of the military committees and he called and um hour later they stuck us up in this room and um had microphones under the desk. I remember Luna reached under and unplugged'em and uh um

They had a nice fruit tray that you paid for at taxpayers. Thank you very much. So I went and did like a jackass eating sawbriars. I was just eating, I didn't care. And so um finally it came back in an hour and the guy says

I don't know who you all call, but you're gonna get your briefing, they're bringing the pilots in. And literally they brought these pilots in and they were in their um their flight gear and they had just come out of the planes and they were the ones and they And they described things and it's been reported now, it's been imported in public, but it was um these craft that were hovering for extended periods of times and could shoot straight up

at incredible speeds that we don't have capabilities of doing. And those are the kind of thing and and two, they're um This was military people, these were top people. These are like the equivalent not uh you know, uh they just some of our top people. And I know folks are gonna say, Well, it's probably the Russia. Well, if it's the Russians, that gum it, they wouldn't be tied up down in Ukraine for how many years? And it and Putin's such an egomaniac, he'd fly a saucer at the

Pennsylvania Avenue get out and probably wrestle Trump in the front yard or something, you know, bare chested, ride a unicorn or something. I don't know. If it's China they'd own us, even more than they already do. And then people say, Well it's ours, Burchett. They don't want to release it. Well Think about this.

President Trump and he should have, and I give him great credit for that, that pilot that got knocked down over in Iran, we spent untold millions of dollars to bring that cat home and we should have,'cause it sends a message to our enemies and it sends a message to our fighting men and women that we're not going to leave you behind at the time.

many presidents have done many times. There's no way on God's green earth that they would risk a half a billion dollar aircraft with something flying around it and um i and and risk those guys' life and all that training to put these guys in harm's way. And that's and that's exactly what they're doing. I mean these things were buzzing cockpits. I mean it's it's not an everyday occurrence. It's in certain areas and that's where the um

The deep water thing comes in, the deep water bases. I was sorta misquoted. I was just telling what I was told and um But it makes a lot of sense that that these deep water areas are where we see a lot of sightings. And we see I cr we've seen um It does something over two hundred miles an hour that are on the sonar pickup are as big as a dadgum football field. And the best we have we don't have anything big as a football field.

Maybe in length, but not in not underwater anyway. And uh I you know, the best we can do is maybe upper thirty mile an hour, maybe something like that, I don't know. But two hundred miles an hour that's just out. And um these things don't have a heat signature and I hope I hope though that they they release some of the footage that we've seen and some that we haven't that we've been rumored that's out there. What I'm afraid though it's gonna get so sanitized.

And it's gonna get cleaned up. I mean even Obama, he said, Yeah, there are aliens out there and then in a recent interview I saw just last week or so he's backed up on that. Oh, I was just kidding, I was just kidding. Yeah and I I saw Trump when he was getting interviewed. He said Obama shouldn't have said that because it's classified. He goes, but I might release it. I might make it unclassified.

And I hope he does. And I told him that. I talked to the president about it and I said, you know, Mr. President, it's like it's like layers of an onion. You just keep pilling it back. And I hope I hope he does because Only one with enough guts. Yeah. Only one'cause he's not beholden to that bunch. All they've done is try to bury him. Right.

So Yeah. So when these men came to you and they hooked up the computer to your television and showed you, did they tell you why they wanted you to see this stuff? They just thought I should know about it because I was asking the right questions. And then shortly after that I was in the middle of the day. I'm sorry. Were you told that you were not supposed to tell people about this? Were you

No, but it's interesting. I had that deep throat moment, you know, the not the porn version, the the the the um Richard Nixon moment, you know, where I was walking in the in the tunnel one day and a person came up to me. It's always a friend, it's always a friend that does it. was just the strangest conversation and I'll never forget it'cause he said Burchett, he said uh You know, you're really pushing on this UFO thing. Do you really think we need to do this?

And I just kept listening. I when I was a young man I'd have run my mouth and said, Oh shut up, but I listened to what he said. He said He said, I mean, you know, this could upset the religious community and All this other I mean, is some of this stuff just left unknown, you know? And I said, No, it's not. I the government has no right to decide what I can and cannot understand or handle or see.

And it to me it and and every time, Joe, let me tell you what they're gonna do. I had a two page bill to for disclosure. And Chuck Schumer had one that was sixty pages. And he modeled his after the Kennedy assassination uh committee release, which s we're over sixty years into that and we still don't they haven't released everything that on on President Kennedy getting shot.

And that's what they wanted to model this dadgum thing after. Mine was two pages long. Of course mine didn't get anywhere. I was told by a member of leadership they come and sit with me. I call it centers row. I sit on the back row, second from the back on the aisle. Everybody gets in trouble. They come sit with me sometimes. And um and I was told by a member of leadership that um

that the intelligence community was unhappy with what I was doing. And then I got a phone call from um a former member of um President Trump's staff who told me that I needed to uh I forget his exact terminology but So, you know, and I I don't know what that means. I mean I'm the four hundred and thirty fifth most powerful member.

So I you know they bump me off and it's gonna be like they'll they'll there'll be one tear shed on the house floor, that'll be because I owed somebody ten dollars and I didn't pay'em back and then they'll move on to the next

So well I'm sure you're aware of this narrative about the missing scientists and scientists that have turned up dead and been killed. Hundred percent. And that that's real. I think um I have a theory on that, all right? And I know it's it's a little dangerous to throw these things out, but and I'm and I I was on maybe Fox one time and I just came up with this. I say, say your family's mobbed up, okay, and you all own a nice Italian restaurant.

And it's world renowned and you're you're busting at the seams, you know, and you're And putting out cookbooks and everything. You got this one chef who's who's the kingpin of all of it. But you're afraid he's talking to your competitor. Now, you don't bump him off. What you do is you rough up a few of the busboys, and that sends a quick dadgum message that you need to.

Shut your mouth. And I timing is everything and nothing happens by accident in Washington D C. To me I think it's the timing is is It's uncanny. You got a president s you know, you had these hearings in Washington. You have a president that says he's gonna release stuff, and all in that same time frame, before and after that, you're having some of these high And to me that's nobody disappears in this country unless they they wanna disappear, you know, there's cameras.

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Yeah, I thought uh one of the things that I thought of the other thing is. One of the subjects that these people were all they're all working on different things, but they're working on alternative energy sources. Yeah. That's the that's the um that's the the clo I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. But that's what ties them together, I think. And and two. Um their one of them spouse said, Oh my husband or wife or whatever never did anything with you

Well they don't talk about it. It's actually it's a pretty close knit group. And uh I always remember this. I knock on doors, that's how I got elected. Nobody really does there's not a lot of people like me that Come from a family of public educators and get elected to Congress. All right. Most of my contributions are$25 and somebody wraps a Bible verse around it.

and tells me they're praying for me. The big boys, they're always for me the day after the election, all right? They always, Oh, come we got you a check and we were with ya along. I always say, Yeah, I felt it right there towards the end, you know. But but I'm knocking on this guy's door Down in Farragut and um and he he's putting his flag out. He's an older gentleman and I said

I said, Hey brother, did you serve? And he said, No, you know, I mean it's East Tennessee, you know, and he kinda held his head down, No, I didn't, um, I didn't. And I said, he said, I I worked at Oak Ridge. And I said, brother, I said, My daddy was on Okinaw. I said if my mom and daddy were alive. They would hug you.

put it together and he told me, he said, Tim, before I left, he said a funny thing, he said, My wife worked there too, and you know I did she worked on a um I think he said he was a little bit more than a little bit of a fuse or something and she was the I worked on the timer on the atomic bomb. He said, and I didn't know what she did the entire time that we were working there. That's called compartmentalization and that's what you have here.

And and if I can elaborate just a little bit more, the um You y you're familiar with FOIA, I mean you're a member of the Media Freedom of Information Act. And it means I can I can request from a federal agency, the FBI, they probably wouldn't give it to me, but any information. But I can't go after like Ford Motor Company, okay? So what they've done is they've given this information, these whatever if it's craft, it's material, if it's bodies, I don't know.

Oh I I I have my suspicions. But they've given'em the there's four or five major contractors at UC that are always the ones that are that are putting it out there. They're their missile defense systems, they're they're coming up with this new metallurgy, these new propulsion systems. And I think

that whatever they had they gave to them early on and they're they're the ones but they're so far disconnected from the government that I can't touch it. And the people that are working on it, there's nobody alive. it ro round it was around Roswell or any of that stuff that was in and around those years that's still alive or still working.

So all those people are gone. I mean that's the best that's the best secret you can keep if you tell somebody and they die. And that's that's exactly what they've done. And uh you know, we've been given places, addresses and things. And everybody says, oh man, go to you need to get out to Area 51, Birchett, and see what's out there.

There ain't nothing at freaking area fifty one. As soon as we announce where we're going, the U Haul vans would have already been there and left, you know? And um and so what it's gonna take is it's gonna take a scientist or somebody that's gonna have to walk out of one of those deadgum labs before they're um allowed to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head ten times, um, with a shotgun or something. Um

Do you know the Bob Lazar story? I do. I do. I've never met Bob. I know I um a buddy of mine, I guess, um, friend of mine, I think sorta broke that story. Um George Knapp. Yeah, Nap, Nap. I'm sorry. I I um haven't slept much in the last forty eight hours. But yeah, George I met him through all this and I'm and it's a big honor'cause I grew up watching George Nap. He's a cool He's awesome. I love him. He comes to my office and we hang out and I mean Right.

Starry eyed when they see somebody like yourself or Kid Rock or somebody, but for me it was George Knapp because I mean, you know,'cause I asked him I'd ask him stuff. He goes, Yeah, that was a report I did when and and'cause I've s I've you know Yeah. He's very careful about what he says too. He's not a guy who says anything that he can't Any document. You ever seen his files? I mean it's just um it's a myriad of files.

He's very even keeled and fair in the way he assesses things. He's not hyperbolic. The way he describes things is like as clean and as accurate as possible. He's not trying to sell T shirts really. I mean he's he's a true journalist. I I you know I I I wish other people would look at a guy like that and say, that's the way we need to go with journalism.

A real journalist who didn't start off with this whole UFO thing. He didn't want to do I mean he was an actual just regular journalist until Bob Lazarkov. And that story, um we've I've had Bob on a couple of times. In fact, this is how popular this idea is in the American Zeitgeist. The Babazar episode of this ep of this podcast is the most viewed episode that I've ever had on YouTube. Yeah, it's got sixty five sixty six, sixty six million views right now. Well, yeah.

Yeah. I mean a guy who's just talking about how he used to work at S four, Area fifty one site four, where he was back engineering UFO. Right. made him like they brought him you know, they used t this technology that makes it look like he's a lot younger. Yeah. And they showed like what his experience was. They completely recreated it and it down to a T. And I I Jamie and I got a chance to watch it with him, with Bob and Luigi, the guy who made the film.

And it was is I mean watching how emotional he gets when he's in the room, he's like this is it. This is this is I like it freaks me out. It like brings me back.'Cause we're talking about nineteen eighty eight, nineteen eighty nine when all this was going on.

And he really you know, I d the last report I saw it was it's somebody interviewed him at his house. I mean, he had like a mid eighties Corvette or something. You know, he's not he not he d he hasn't cashed in on it like everybody else seems to do.

No, he hasn't made any money off of it and he's still just a legitimate scientist. He runs United Nuclear Labs. He's you know, that's what he does. And he's a a brilliant guy. And doesn't want the attention. Like I it was very difficult to get him to come back in a second time.

you know, and he wanted to wait until this documentary was out and come in and talk again, but he got freaked out. He drank a lot of whiskey. You know, he was like he gets weirded out by it all. It's all like to him the whole experience was very surreal and strange and

Well you gotta figure he's the one that escaped from all of it and is still alive. And somehow he got out and was able to do it before they could silence him. They tried to discredit him, said he didn't work there, and then I think he produced check stubs even.

Well not just that. They tried to pretend that he never worked at Los Alamos Labs, but he was on the employee roster. There was a there was a lot of stuff going on where they tried to discredit him, but he went public because he was afraid they were gonna kill him. Yeah,'cause the initial one that he gave a fake name and he was a s a silhouette and he told his story but then his his home got broken into, his car was getting broken into, he got shot out on the highway.

It got real weird and so he said, Look, I've gotta go public, like it might be the only way to protect myself and he told the whole story and he hasn't deviated from that story. And that's that's what's really kind of crazy,'cause it's been, you know, what, forty something years or close to

These guys they ask those questions, you know, they always Oh yeah, well and they say, Was it red? No, it's green and then they were adamant that it was red ten years ago. Everything about him has been that he and I've I've seen Uh there was a documentary on him and they asked somebody to analyze him. Uh, you know, was he telling the truth or not? And he said, I think he's telling the truth. Yeah, it doesn't seem like he's lying. But I mean

Of course I'm in the business I'm in Congress, so yeah. He's an amateur, we're professionals up there, brother. You only think you can tell a lie. Yeah, but they're not very good at it. The people in Congress that are liars. The problem with liars is they don't really have a good understanding of the truth.

Because if you're lying all the time and you're forging this like fake narrative, people see that. And so that when you try to say it as the truth, it doesn't come off like the truth. There's a feeling that people get when they talk to you. Now there's Some real crazy people that are that could just lie. Like really insane. But generally they lie about a bunch of stuff. They don't just have one lie from nineteen eighty nine.

The term pathological comes to mind. Well his own. story though one of the interesting things is he was talking about the ways in which the craft moved and then decades later we have footage that shows these crafts rotating in the direction that they want to travel then zooming off.

And then, of course, there was the Commander David Fraver incident off the coast of San Diego in 2004. And if that was our technology, The the thing that puzzles me is if we had something in two thousand and four that can go from fifty thousand feet above sea level to sea level in under a second. I can't imagine that twenty-two years later there would be no advances that it would have leaked through into mainstream technology.

Well the energy. Just from that. The energy. It's um you know, we heat our homes in the winter and cool'em in the summer. But Then again, I always throw out the war pimps. I'm not a my my daddy fought for this country and I'm I'm not and you know, that's their business is war and their business is very good. Um they they will quickly um, you know, stand up and and

And trash a guy like Favor. Um he was um he testified before our committee and I I was I was taken by what he s I know him pretty well now. But we um you know, we had the committee which was crazy. Uh we uh me and Luna and um a bunch of others got together and said, Man we gotta do this committee. This is we need to do this and so I went to the chairman and he said sure and then they sort of

blew it off and then they want and then I go see the staff uh of these committees and that's that's the that's the real problem in Washington. Reagan said it best. Don't l don't term limit politicians, term limit staff. You know, I go in there and I'm told, Yeah, well, I think we wanna just talk about this Chinese hot air balloons, what we wanna really talk about. I said, No, hell no, that's not excuse my language, heck no. Um we wanna um we wanna talk about

Mad gum UFOs. What people are calling us about constantly. I mean, it was just getting so much airplay. And then um I was told by some old timers, which was kinda cool, they said that, you know, Tim

I've been here some of them been here ten, fifteen years and said that was the most attended committee that they could remember. They had to open up another room so people could be there. I walked out I was on Fox that morning and uh Um, I I was going out I left my office at four thirty in the morning and I was outside and I remember it was hot'cause it was summertime and there was people already outside

lining up that he'd come from all over the country on their own dime. I mean, these weren't like wealthy people. I mean one guy said This is our vacation this year. We're coming to this Dadgum committee meeting. And and Joe, they were lined up around the hall, around everywhere. And um that's where I met Sean Ryan and um a bunch of people. And it was just it was amazing to me and that's when Congress started paying attention to it because they realized the voters are paying attention.

Mm. Yeah, I mean that might be the only way to put pressure on'em. The the thing about the alternative energy source. What a one of the things that I was thinking is that if you were involved in Whatever. Petroleum, like what whatever your business is. It would put them out of business. Yeah. Them and the Pentagon. That was my point on the Pentagon. Yeah. And it would put them out of business, put the oil companies out of business. Because they say what he was showing a dad gum hates.

Right. And and through the um uh All the technology we had, you know, as they called them the the tic tac. Tic tacs. Yeah, they look like the little little mint and um and that's what they were. That's what Commander David Fraver saw. Yeah. And not only saw, but there's video footage of it, there's radar footage of it. It's exhibiting travel that's just beyond comprehension for modern technology.

These people were working on some sort of new energy source or some sort of new propulsion system, and you've got to imagine there's a very small amount of people that are on the cutting edge of whatever this stuff is. If this is like groundbreaking technology that

not known by mainstream physicists or whoever's working on it, and you only have a small group of people. If you whack one of them, you put a big stock To any progress, especially if you get the main people, the lead scientist, and that guy winds up getting assassinated or winds up in Disappears. Yeah. Hiking or something?

Yes. Walking with her friend, uh her friend turns around and talks to her, and then walks a little further, turns around to say something again, and she's gone. Just gone. And they bring in dogs, they have cadaver dogs. They li they can't find her. There's no trace. No one's seen her since. And this lady was apparently wasn't she Jamie, wasn't she involved in some sort of alter alternative technology, alternative

She she uh uh she m metallurgy was her deal. So you think these whatever these craft or whatever have to be uh something in I you know, I I said this earlier on one time and it made a lot of sense. I I was surprised that something I said did, but it sorta stuck. You know, it it's like well why don't they just bring it all out now if they've got it? I don't think we've got the technology to figure out what the heck it is. Like

I ride motorcycles. I got an old forty seven Indian chief. If I were to take that thing back to the when they came over in the Mayflower. Right. You know, they would see it and think, That's kinda unusual. They might worship his as a God. I know I I sometimes do when I go out to the garage. But but or uh but you know, th they're gonna they're not gonna be able to

adjusted valves. They're not gonna know what the heck spark plug is. They probably wouldn't be able to figure out how to make a fuel with a high enough octane for the thing to kick over. Right. Um And and I think that and they might polish it. They might get it started. And I think that's sorta where we're at with this stuff, Joe. I think it's uh I I think a lot of them have something and they just don't know what the heck to do with it.

Bob Lazar's take on it. And that was his take on it when he was working there in nineteen eighty nine. He said they understood how to turn it on. They didn't exactly understand how it worked or what it did and they wanted him to try to figure it out. Those guys that came to my house um I uh they they talked about that and how these something could travel at these light years and and um one of'em was an astrophysicist and and I don't really understand astrophysics but um

It took me six years to get out of U T and I didn't drink or smoke pot, so I'm just gonna elaborate a little bit if it's all right with you, brother. Having a green shop. Technological adult education. I can fix your lawnmower, I can burn your house down if you need it wired, but I'll always have a job. But so you got something vibrating over here and then instantly it's over here. Right. And that that's sort of the way they explained it, put it on my level to understand it.

And I mean to me it proves that there's a God. I mean,'cause it's an instantaneous travel that we don't quite comprehend. Now, is there friction involved? Is and and that's where the um Um when they see these blobs out there that are floating around, um they um that are lit up. I've had several people tell me about that, how these Um there was one incident where they surrounded a group of our aircraft and um

And it was dear and and a lot of them deal with nuclear weapons. It seems that when we're around some nukes, we've had I always remember I went in and um It's been a long time since you had a man bun, so I'm will I'm knock on that.

I had this bureaucrat with a dead gum man bun telling telling me I asked him about a certain incident and he said, Uh we don't have data points on that, Congressman. And I said, Well what about this deal? And he said, I don't know what you're talking about. I said, Well Google it. Everybody in the world knows about we had a We had a nuclear power plant that had these things fly over.

And the dadgum thing shut down. I mean it's been documented. Yeah. It has been documented unequivocally. And you know, and and that's that and then then you have members of Congress go, Well, they said it didn't exist, so we're out, you know, I'm good. And I'm like, No, no. I'm sitting here reading these officers that are obviously

very I I read people. God gives us all a gift. My gift is reading somebody. And I was reading these these military officers and, you know, they had the full and c they had all of it. You know, they'd been serving for a while and some of'em had done some things. And um I could just sit there reading them there think This little twerp right here beside me, I'd choke him out if I could. You know, I mean they were just like They were angry. No, not at me, at him.

Yeah. And him because they wanted to tell something and this was a Biden appointee and you know, it just and and and and that's a lot of the times we're I was in one situation, I'll just call it, where they sent somebody in basically just to disrupt in you know, to throw at um at at at a at a witness and um and that witness just it was like a he was like

Pro ball player hitting T ball man. He was just knocking'em out of the Dadgum Park every qu he said, What about and he gave a date and he said, Oh, you're talking about this incident? Well let me tell you what happened now. and and he would go through everything and it was and it was beautiful. It was beautiful. And then he got disgusted and ended up leaving the meeting. And you know, and and that's they they send people in to disrupt

They're just not gonna turn and I don't know if the fact that and and the corruption in Washington D C is not like it used to be. You know, it's not like oh, I got a picture of you sleeping with some hooker over in Istanbul, you know. Oh, make copies. I wanna take it to my buddies. I mean that's about the that's about what you'd get now. But the way it is now is I think, is that some members have

a family member or a wife and or girlfriend that could work for one of these groups. And they're told Hey, you want to keep your dadgum job or you want these pictures to come out or whatever. I w we need a little help here. And then they go disrupt and come into the committee meetings and ask ridiculous questions to try to get up. a partisan fight going. And maybe some of them do it unbeknownst to them or what they're being told to do, but they do it because they're they're just lap dogs.

So there's a strategy where they have a bunch of people that they sort of compromise has disrupt. And they And they are compromised. Exactly. That's the word. I I was on a and I'm gonna say another one. I was on the Benny show early when he was early on and um and I was talking Johnson? Yeah, yeah. Um and so um he's been very kind to me. And so he um he asked me about how do they do it and I said, Well they used to do this thing called the honeypot, you know, they

You'd go to some you go on I never go on trips. The only trip I've ever been on a Codale was to uh the border down here, uh down in Texas and I um I went down for one day, flew down here, saw the border, saw all the people coming over the border.

got in an airplane, flew home. I was it was about a eighteen hour trip. It wasn't any luxurious. I stayed in a room that my buddies at the Frat House would have probably asked for our money back in. It was pretty rough, you know. Got some good barbecue though. But anyway, so I um these guys go on these trips.

And say you're sitting down at the bar, I mean you're a good looking guy. Some girl comes up to you or some guy, whatever your interest, whatever your proclivities are, and s laughing at your jokes and you know, next thing you know, you're up in the bedroom.

Right. Naked with them and then you think, man, I pulled off the gra I pulled this off, I was with this smoke show and my wife and kids don't know about it and and I'm just gonna you know, me I'm just just me just between me and the Lord. And then you know, you're getting ready to make a keyboard. And when a staffer comes up or a or a lobbyist or something, you're in the hall and says, Hey carnage.

Said, yeah, man, how's it going? He said, He got this big boat. Yeah, but I I'm not for y'all on this one. Okay, we understand. He said, Hey, um, were you in a motel room in in Istanbul with a pretty redhead one time? And he said, And they'd say, man, I don't want that out. It'll wreck my mind. Well, we don't want it out. We don't we just need your help.

And that's how they sink their claws into you. They used to. And they might do that now. But I was on the Benny show and I was talking about that. Oh man, I caught it from I mean it leadership and members. Man, everybody thinks we're sleeping around. I'm saying I didn't say everybody, I just said some of y'all are. I said, you know, don't don't and every day you can there's a new one getting in trouble, so it's not any big secret.

Um four hundred and thirty five of us. So You get four hundred and thirty five people, you're gonna add a few freaks in there. Yeah. Group of any human being. Especially, you know, if you can compromise a man with beautiful women, it's not that hard to Or if they're if they're gay and they don't want it out in their in their public or whatever.

I I said this to Benny and and then I and then I caught it. And then about a week later, a week later and I I said it's probably the Chinese, the Russians or something. They busted a Chinese prostitution ring. And what did they list as their clientele? Lobbyist, government employees. And politicians.

Of course. And then what happened the next week? That story went away. And Benny ha does this thing. He showed me walking out and he like I throw a match and the and the w whatever behind me just bursts into flames and I'm walking out. You know, it's really cool. And um Uh he also did a song of me singing Dad Gum, which is my cuss I don't cuss, I say dad gum and he did that. But anyway, but that was my point, is that they use this stuff and they know what we want. They you know, these guys

These countries they know uh they own the internet, so they know what's porn you look at. It you're in the privacy of your home that you think you're you know, you got this private name on your freaking computer and they know, you know. And so that's what they're gonna hit you with. So anyway, that's that's a long story, but it's I think mostly it's just jobs now. Mostly jobs and influence and figuring out well you think about

You get a dirt bag, you're gonna get him to sleep with some hooker, you know. That's that's gonna happen em you know, eventually too. But I just don't I don't know if it's that prevalent. And I had a lobbyist tell me one time

He was uh his name was Tom Hensley, he was the golden goose. He was a liquor lobbyist in Nashville, Tennessee, and he was a caricature of what a lobbyist is. He had a three piece suit, big old cowboy boots, smoking a cigar. And we were at the Crown Plaza w he liked me because I never would vote for his liquor bills, but I never would vote for a tax on em either. So um he he um

He we were there and the guy from the governor's office came and just chewed both of us out. You know, just treated me. I'm a legislator and he was treating me like a dog. And I and he's and Goose was sitting back here and he had that fancy Jack Daniels black label or whatever it is that the fancy version of it is.'Cause he represented Jack Daniels, made in Tennessee. And he pulls that big five dollar cigar out of the mouth and he goes, Birchit.

He goes, Governor's come and go, but the old goose will be sitting right here. And he said I said, Well what are you gonna do, Goose? He's gonna shut you down, man. All these you're gonna tell all these people stuff? He goes, Burchett. I just need one chairman. I don't need the whole in one body of the House, uh you know, in the House of the Senate. I just need one chairman at a list.

And he wasn't saying g he never did anything crooked in front of me and he never offered me any bribes or anything. But that was a good lesson to learn as a young man when I was in the state legislature. Well if you just think about how much money Congress people wind up leaving off Just that alone is incentive to play. Wait, you don't mean w you don't think we're making sixteen thousand percent on our own knowledge?

I got my daughter called me a while back and said, Dad, um, and she's super smart. She's to do anything. You're a veterinarian doctor, I know brain surgeon. She's crazy smart. I married my wife and adopted her. My wife was a widow, so genetically she's not mine. But when she gets into trouble, my wife says, That's all you, Tim Burgeon. But she's an exceptional little girl. And she said, Dad, I think I'd just like to cut hair.

Right on girl. You go undo it. And um and that's what she does. I mean she's she's going to school to do that. So I cashed out my eleven thousand dollar portfolio, which was a mutual fund,'cause I think and I I don't own any individual stock. But I think that members of Congress ought to do that. That was my bill. You don't own i more people have Joe, more people have played professional bass.

Um you know, it it's it's a very it's a very tight and I tell people if you don't get off that dead gum plane and look at and get chill bumps, you get your butt back on that plane and go home.'Cause we don't need And everybody knocks on Pelosi and I know that. But out of the top ten, you know where she is in the in the amount of trades? Where is she at? Number eleven. She's not even in the top ten, dude. Yeah. No, it's great. 'Cause everybody uses her as an example.

I know, but she don't care. I mean if you were making sixteen thousand percent, would you care? Well it's just bizarre that it's legal. Oh it's it's it's it's not right. It's not right, but it's it's it's legal. And I just said, look, you cash out everything, you put it in a mutual fund. And I know they got this bill and everybody's all fired up for it and I'm not a f I pr I don't know what I'm gonna do about it. Which bill?

And they got a new bill. They don't like my bill, mine and Luna's bill that says that you um you can't own individual stocks, just own a mutual fund. They're gonna let you keep your portfolio. So I mean some of these cats got a twenty million dollar dead gum portfolio. They made a hundred and seventy thousand dollars a year, which is uh amazing. Yeah, imagine the average person out there m making a hundred and seventy thousand dollars and all of a sudden they make A hundred million? Real man.

In the stock market. We're we're involved and I not all of them are crooked. Some of them are they are geniuses. I've been s in Congress with some real geniuses. You know, if you see I'll give you a case in point, all right? And I've said this many times and nobody's d uh come after me and said, you know, they told me to quit saying it, but I don't care. come to knoc t East Tennessee and try to beat me. But but they um If if uh

I forgot what I was saying now, man. I've lost my mind. I guess that's the part you're gonna have to cut out. Oh no, it's we're talking about insider trading. We're talking about the amount of money that people generate. Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to think. I forgot it. I've got so many one liners in my head, Joe. I should have written all these down written all these down. But anyway, um they they all

Not not all of them are crooked. Some of them are are really are g that good. But oh I know what it was. It was uh it was um

When Russia in invaded Ukraine, I haven't voted for a dime for that. It's not our Dadgum war. I don't I I keep keep keep my dollars here. We need to defend our own Dadgum borders. Well Joe Biden, for better or for worse, gave Ukraine basically our missile defense system. So immediately we had to replenish our missile defense system. Now, who do you think owns stock in that in those missile defense systems?

Members of Congress. Yeah. Members of Congress. And apparently some of'em had bought it at Fairly close to those times. And so I don't know. Are they doing something crooked? I don't I mean that you can't prove it. Well if it's not crooked, they know things that would help them Remove all reproach. And if you if you've got a twenty million dollar portfolio or whatever, some probably have more than that, you know good and dadgum well. You're gonna vote.

It's in the back of your mind you're gonna vote to make my uh my investment worth a little more. Yeah. So the possibility of financial windfall would probably make people play ball. Which makes sense. Human nature. You got you got guys up here that are that you know, they've got Expenses at home, got a couple of kids in school, got payments on a house, you know, and one hundred and seventy thousand dollars doesn't go as far as it you

And they just human nature. You want more. People want more. They they want, you know, whatever it is. A lot of times it's not them investing. you know, their wife or their spouse and we've seen cases of that where you Sixteen year old kid is doing pretty well. Right. And it's a child of someone who has some inside information. There's something that just came out yesterday about Rokom.

a guy, Kevin Bass, uh on Twitter posted this big long he b this examination of his stock trades and how much money he's made and how he's made it and what he's done There's I mean it's just all over Congress. I know Ro. I don't know if it's true. Yeah, I don't mean that. You could pull it up if you want, Jamie. It's uh Kevin Bass, B A S S

It's bass or bass, I'm not sure how to s pronounce his last name. But he made this very detailed post about it. But I mean it that's just one example of one person who's profited. I'm sure uh s probably minor in comparison to the other eleven that are ahead of Nancy Pelosi. I sleep on my couch in my office and I shower in the I can't afford it. It's too expensive up there.

So I got elected with a guy one time and he said, when we got elected, he said, Hey Burchard, I just paid$1.2 million for this place. What do you think? And I know he was just And he said, um and I said, Well, probably in a couple of years they're gonna say, I can't believe you only paid one point two million dollars for it,'cause that given the price of that stuff. It's just crazy. It is crazy. It's a rich man's game. It is really a rich man's game.

And the problem with being around rich men is even if you're rich, you don't feel like you're rich if you're in comparison to them. And so if you're worth a couple of million and this guy over here is worth fifty, you're like damn, I gotta up my game. And you're in this sort of culture, this culture of a bunch of people that are investing a bunch of money and making a bunch of returns and

And I I'll tell you one uh uh it was a public meeting. I remember it was in transportation, it w dealt with some technology in an airport and it was pretty cool. And um I just asked the question. Is your stock publicly traded? I th and you know, I looked I was watching people see what they did and they all looked up, you know, and I thought, No to self, call my broker when I walk out of here, you know. That's what's very

It's disgusting. And we all here's what we're gonna do. We'll pass some bill and the Senate'll pass another bill or phone just won't take it up, which is we're seeing a lot of now. Just won't take anything up and it'll die and we'll all go back back to um our people and Oh look I tried to do this, I voted for this bill, but you know, I didn't get a uh I didn't get a dad gum break, you know. Yeah and and look how tough we are and and or or you know, and and they're all be up at Kenne Bunkport.

Sipping expensive wine and toasting each other on their great financial choice. That's where Bush is from, right? I don't know. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. I think they're from Kenny Bunkport, Maine. Yeah.

Through that one out. It's the only place I could think of. Myrtle Beach, South Carolina for somebody like me would be pretty cool. So one of the things about this uh disclosure thing, um the documentary uh age of disclosure. Yeah. And you're in Um th it's really great. If you haven't seen it folks and you're interested in the UFO

phenomenon. One of the fascinating uh aspects about age of disclosure is you got all these insider people that are all talking about all these different experiences that people have had and all the stuff that people know. And one subject came up that made a lot of sense and it was that If there have been back engineering programs and they've have had access to all this technology and they've had crashed re

vehicles and biological entities and they've been all these programs studying this for so long. They had to have fun So if they had funding, that means they had a lie to Congress. So if they had a lie to Congress, there's misappropriation of funds. So you're talking about massive fen felonies. So if They don't have some sort of amnesty. And this is one of the things that's pushed throughout this entire documentary is that we need some kind of mass amnesty. I'm a very

I see something like that. I'm like, okay, I see what you're doing. You are talking about UFO so you can get some sort of amnesty for misappropriation of funds, and that might just be straight up fraud. There might be fraud and theft and you might have moved money into offshore accounts and there's must might maybe a bunch of shady shit and you could say, Oh, but we'll tell you some very Obscure information about UAPs. I don't like that term because it was always UFO.

UFOs that's a that's a misdirection. I hate that term. We've already Change it. UFOs is fun. UAPs makes me it feels sanitized. if they can give you some fucking, you know, semi shady information. Now you've got amnesty. Now you've got amnesty. And you've got amnesty for decades of misappropriation of funds. So maybe

Some of it is real. Maybe a lot of it is real. Maybe a lot of it is really back engineering programs. Maybe they really have been doing these things, and maybe they can give us slowly trickle down some insight as to what's going on. It'll probably take forever if you ever get anything out. But in the meantime, all these people that have made who knows how much money in shady ways with all this misappropriation of funds and now they're not in trouble anymore.

Yeah. Representative Eric Burleson has a bill to do just that and it was but it's it's whistleblower protection is the way you need to go about that. And uh And he can't he's tried to get it attached to bills and won't allow it. Or they put it on and kill it in the Senate. Back and forth. So then the other problem that's brought up in age of disclosure is say if you do have a retrieved craft from wherever, another planet, another dimension, whatever it is, from the ocean, whatever it is.

And you need to study this thing. Wha where are you bringing it to? Most likely you're gonna bring it to a weapons manufacturer. And so if you do that, well what about the other companies? They don't have access to that? Well then they can sue. They can why didn't I get access to that sort of technology? Why does this person you've damaged my business

you know, what have you. You've and also people have probably lied under oath about whether or not those things exist or what where they got certain technology. I mean there's a bunch of different reasons why you could see why logical reasons why you could see why they would probably try to put the brakes on disclosure and try to put some blockades up and try to obfuscate and make things much more difficult.

I agree. Uh uh a hundred percent. And that's why I think these folks disappearing and dying unexpec unexpectedly are are delivering some of those messages. Yeah.

And members of Congress will um you know, several of the people that have been involved that are really heavily into it now, they were real skeptics. We kinda brought'em in. I needed some skeptics. It couldn't just all be a bunch of people. Folks that thought like I did. And um and they're now not skeptical. Can you give me some examples of like how that happened? Yeah. So he was he was a skeptic and um

And and I mean I'm a skeptic of a lot of it myself, but I just have been studying for Sudad Gumlong. And he um You know, he he was in the committee and and he's asking very poignant, sharp questions, which is what you're supposed to do in a hearing. And um he Yeah, he's he's one of the biggest advocates now for total release of ever of every Matter of fact, he's he's always at the forefront of writing legislation. When we're doing something we're always

Me, him and Luna, um Jared Moskowitz and the and the on the Democrat side is is involved in it a lot. And uh you know, and and other members will come in and say, Hey, can you I want to be read into this committee or whatever, which means they can come on when we do the UFO stuff. But nothing really had the impact as that first committee. And I told people at the end of it, I was recognized at the end

The one thing about and Nancy Mace of course she's involved with as well. And one thing um at the end I said, you know, fine i I just want y'all to know that that people do believe you. This is not some crazy far out thing and you all are Have a right to be skeptical and and and ask questions to your government and get these answers. Yeah, we're not gonna give it to you without without y'all w without y'all being

Well there's too many stories from too many credible people. Too many people like Ryan Graves, too many people like Commander David Fraver, there's too many people that you just go, I don't know why this person would lie about this one

Can can I tell you one that I got on? Um I was in the state legislature with a guy and uh and he was watching And they they film you one time and then they use you for like three years. Oh, ancient aliens. Ancient Aliens, I'm sorry. I love that show. I love those guys. They're all great. I love it. I love it. Shout out to Giorgio. Yeah. Giorgio Suclus of his crazy hair.

I love that guy. He's I think he's Greek. I need to get him to Knoxel for uh for the Greek festival. But anyway, he'd be a rock star there. But so um uh Again, we're you know, I'm losing my my train of thought here, Joe. I don't even smoke weed and I'm losing my train of thought. What were we talking about here? I hope you edit some of this'cause Yeah, no. We're talking about disclosure. Yeah, just.

Yeah, I was telling you about people. So I'm I'm I pick up the phone and a buddy of mine says, Timbo, and I recognize the voice and I said, Hey brother, what are you up to? We are in the state house. He said, I just saw you on Ancient Aliens. And I said, Okay. And I thought, here it comes, you know. Hey, you've been probed lately? You know, you do you get that stuff from some of the guys gals in Congress. And he said

Can I tell you a story? And I said, Sure, buddy. And his voice kind of got quiet. And I remember he hollered at his wife, he he said, Hey, said her name, and he said, uh What year was that? It was when he was in the Navy and she said it was and she gave the date, it was I think in the fifty.

And he was out on a boat and I don't know, you know, a battleship from an aircraft carrier, but anyway, he's out on a boat and they were arming a sub with um with nukes. It was in the early part of that where the subs could launch nuclear weapons. and they were all out on the deck, and all of a sudden And he saw this humongous saucer in the air and he said he said Timbo If that thing wasn't two bloc if that thing wasn't two blocks long, I'll I'll kiss your butt.

And and he described it to me, you know, he said he gave the color, and he and it was the classic saucer. He said there was lights coming out of portals around it, and he said it made no noise whatsoever, and it just sat there and hovered. And they just looked up at it. It just went straight up, no noise, no nothing, no anything. And um just like what the?

The guys in the suits come on, the the you know, the so called men in black, I just they're just spooks, CIA or something, and told'em, they said, This is national security, if you talk about this, uh we'll You'll be in Leavenworth, right? And back then that you know, nobody the cell phone wasn't invented. Algor hadn't invented the internet. It would have been in the field.

The er late fifties, late fifties, I believe, or early sixties. So and then but he gave me some descriptions. And after this came out, I mean my phone, Joe, uh every day when this started breaking, I would get somebody would call me and send me pictures of something, you know, that

reflection or something, you know, and oh come out to my house. All right, I'm afraid I was gonna end up in a freezer in North Carolina or something, you know. Be somebody's dinner. And I was like, nah, I don't want to go out there to look at it. Just send me a picture of it. And every day but then I get a I got a call from a guy who was air And I and I I googled him, he's legit. And he told me about a

a sighting he had. He was out uh he they were out fishing um in Florida and and it was near where one of the military bases was and this thing and he described exactly my buddy had seen and this w he saw this in the um I think the early eighties in uh or late seventies and he described this craft that was just hovering and it was just going along and these then you know it was just going on a pretty good click and he said these jets were trying to keep up with it. He could tell by

You know,'cause he's an Air Force guy. And he was an officer. And um it was a legitimate and I've since read uh the story that he told, but um but it was it was strangely identical in the in the d the color What color was it? It was uh an off-gray I think. And um And but it didn't really matter, but it was just the same one that they said. Could have been chartreuse for all I know. But they um but the the the size and the uh circumference and the um the the the dome on top

and the portales and just everything was just very, very similar to what this guy had told me about just a few weeks prior. And y y when you see identical things of people that have no contact with each other To me that that says something. And then with these pilots, they they're risking their careers to come forward. And those engineers in age of discovery. Yeah. Right. These aren't rich people. They can't just retire.

No, and they're good folks. I've uh hung out with'em when came when they had the world premiere. Something else, me standing on a red red carpet. A little out of place and A at a at a film festival. Yeah. No, I'm sure I avoid those things.

But this uh the subject When you talk about them uh appearing over bases, appearing over aircraft carriers, appearing over submarines that have nuclear capability It kind of makes sense that if you were from another planet or you're from another dimension or wherever it is and you're monitoring what seems to be the most intelligent species and the most capable species on the planet, right. That when they would get access to something like

Like all the UFO sightings ramped up considerably after World War Two. After we dropped the bomb. So we dropped the bomb. Yeah, there was uh a considerable amount of activity. You know, that's when Kenneth Arnold Saw those things and talked about them as flying saucers. That was in Washington State, is that what that was? Yeah. They look like say they look like stones skipping across the w they look like little saucers. Yeah.

Introduced into the modern world. And then you see so many of them and then you hear these stories about them going flying over nuclear bases and hovering over and shutting down the equipment. And just the fact that they would hover over that submarine and then take off, just to let you know. Like that's probably What we can do.

It's probably a smart move if you if you don't want to completely intervene and like kidnap people and shut down the government and land on the White House lawn and freak everybody out. What better way than to take something that's completely isolated like a submarine in the ocean where you know everybody's gonna lock everything down top secret and just show yourself and just like hay bit. Like we're here. We're here and we are watching everything. So don't do anything fucking shit.

Y you know, well you talked about that i that uh that issue or episode. I remember when they uh I first I've never been invited back of course, but the um intelligence committee when they did the UFO thing and there was they had these all these seats and it was an open to the open to Everybody, Congress and the press and everybody and they had all these seats behind these this white bla this white guy and this black guy who were appointed to oversee the UAP is

Um and I remembered I thought I'm gonna get there early, get the seat down front. And I sat right behind those guys and nobody else showed up. I was the only member of Congress outside of the members in the in the And on the committee. And Joe, those guys couldn't spell UFO. I mean, they were intelligent, they were They're I'm sure they're Patriots. They had no clue about anything. So there's questions asked about certain incidents and

We don't know anything about that. You know, and I thought to myself, that's when the compartmentalization came to in my mind how they compartmentalize that stuff because to them they could take a lie detector test. I don't know anything about it because they are kept away from it it's like they're looking down the barrel of a twenty two rides. And they don't ask questions and they don't unless they're told. And if you want to keep your career, that's how you have to operate.

And your pension and everything else. Absolutely. It makes sense that that aspect of it Um, what doesn't totally make sense is w why now disclosure, other than

Um I mean this is being cynical. The the Iran war is not going very well. American public's very upset. A lot of people don't think we should have ever been involved in that in the first place and we need some good Hãy subscribe cho kênh La La School Để không bỏ lỡ những video hấp dẫn We need something to distract us, we need something to take our focus off of

If I was gonna do it, now would be the time I'd do it. I think he just wants to get it out of it. Well I think he does too. You know, he's talked about it like and he's also I mean no, I mean I don't think he cares about about um trying to get uh uh everybody off off target, you know, by by disclosing UFOs. I think he cares about all of it, but I don't think he cares that if you're talking about I just think he he genuinely sees that America needs to know that.

Well he also realizes America wants to know it and he's an outsider. I mean even though he's the president, he is In a lot of ways he's an outsider. And I mean this is his last term. Right? So it's like if you're gonna if someone's gonna do it, do it. You wanna leave a legacy? Be the guy who releases all these files and wants to be.

Killing three times. Yeah. So, you know, it's not and that ain't no Did you see that judge that apologized to the guy that did you see the story? No. Okay. The guy who was at the White House Correspondence Dinner that shot one of the Secret Service agents and the guy got arrested. The judge who's dealing with the case apologize to him for his treatment Do you have that, Jamie? He should have gotten some quality stick time.

This is another guy this judge also uh released another man who was arrested for threatening to kill Trump. Trump derangement syndrome's real dude. It's ridiculous. Look at it, it says the indictment comes a day after the judge overseeing the case against Alan expressed grave concerns about how he's being treated in jail and apologized to him in court. You're talking about a guy who showed up with a rifle or a shotgun.

Not a secret service agent, obviously in the vest, the guy's okay, but whatever you've been through, I apologize for the prior week, magistrate judge Zia Faruqui. I don't know if I'm saying that right. said during a hearing in Washington DC on Monday, according to the court documents filed over the weekend, Allen had been in solitary confinement at the D C jail after being placed on suicide watch after his arrest on april twenty fifth.

His lawyers said that he was housed in a permanently illuminated safe cell with no access to personal items or jail visits, despite repeated assessments showing he did not exhibit any suicide factors. In an order issued on Sunday, uh Farouki uh wrote that he had grave concerns about the conditions Allen was being kept in, which he said were seemingly unprompted by the facts of the case.

It could drive a person crazy to be in that situation, Frugwi said during Monday's hearing. That is really crazy. At least assumed you're tr you're assuming he was trying to kill the president. From one way to the other, uh overnight almost and We're seeing this more and more, I think. What do you mean the guy's been programmed? I think these people are You mean like MK Ultra type program? Hundred percent. Really? I think so, but it's a different you know, MK y you're the expert on it.

Um not really. Well don't say that. No. I don't want to get you bumped off there. Let somebody else go start your car when you walk out there and wait thirty minutes. But I know nothing. But you know, the the CIA they they were grabbing these people up and giving'em, I guess, acid or L S D or whatever and then programming them and then

Then they said they weren't doing it and then they got sued and they said, Oh, we we lied, we were doing it, but we're not doing it anymore. Which time are they not? So here's here's my thought on this. I think you've got a bunch of people today because of this it's just open up Open up your head and pour it in. And they can put these things out. to people just enough to where they know that there's gonna be a reaction.

There's some people you and I are gonna read this stuff and go, Huh you know, and there's some people that are just gonna stay awake at night and just fume. I I I've know people that read stuff and they'll call me and text me and say, Can you believe this? And I'm like, dude

Man, I live this stuff. Cool out. We're good. We're okay. And I think that these folks they know who they are and they can they can target them. You know, how many of these people are gonna be are we gonna find that have no internet access, have no History of being on the internet. Like Thomas Crooks. That one's Total BS. Total BS. Oh we couldn't we'd let him on the roof and you know and and Also they couldn't get snipers on that roof because the slope was too steep.

Yeah, we had we had members of Congress that are older than I th I think Daryl Issa was there. Um I know A couple of other guys were there too. I mean he's an older guy. He's older than me. I think he was walking around You know, and uh that's bogus. That's totally bogus. They put Trump in a bad position. Yeah, that that's the thing, you'll never know. Men tell no tales.

Where's another thing we should talk about? There's a lot of people running around out there saying that that first Trump assassination was a setup and that it was a ho. And that Trump did it to try to get people to be more sympathetic to him. Anybody who says that doesn't know anything about guns. No. Because the shot was from how far was it? Was it a hundred and forty yards? Is that what it was, Jamie? Um there is not a person on earth that could nick your ear at a hundred and forty yards.

Not only that, but miss other shots first. Kill someone behind you, shoot another person as well, and just nick his ear. And just by the grace of God, by f just sheer Luck he turns his head at the right time and it catches his ear. Okay, a hundred and twenty to one hundred and forty meters or a hundred and thirty five to one hundred and fifty yards away during the rally.

Uh he was positioned on top of an AGR International building which provided a clear line of sight to the stage. Just that alone is a a tremendous failure of security. The fact that they didn't search and look at these buildings that you don't have drones above. Scanning the area where you have potential line of sight, uh a easy shot with someone with a scope. And my b my buddy Eli Crane, he's a he's a sniper and he said, you know.

I could've made that shot, you know, because he's a seal cyper and Oh hundreds. Well he did the man have steel sights or did he He did have steel sites. Didn't have a scope. Uhuh. And the the thing to me is that he um he got up there and people were pointing at him. It was just a complete Is it a breakdown? I y you think is it a breakdown? It's a breakdown if I if if Tim Burchett sneaks into the back of a uh a Leonard Skinnard concert and gets close to the stage. That's a breakdown.

That to me is a complete capitulation. They put Trump out there and there's people that don't like him. You can say what you want to about programming and things. I just think it's it's it's out there. I think it is a reality and I think we better people better wake up because they're Washington D C is not a um everybody wants to call it a swamp. Okay, so it does have a it does have a scope. It does have a scalpers. That's a red dot. Okay.

I mean I don't know if it's magnified. It says optics attached to rail AEMS uh optics. So I don't know I'd have to talk to some of my guys out front about like what kind of a uh what kind of a sight that is, what kind of optics that is. Right. I don't know if it's magnified or if it's like pistol optics. But either way, even if it's just if he's prone and he's got a rifle and it says, uh, yeah, check it out, Jamie.

I think that's just the um the setup though. I don't think that's actually the uh I think AMS optics, AEMS optics are the Right. I am Red dot side. Yeah, so it's a red dot. I don't think that's magnifying. Yeah. Fairly long. Not only that, he was walking around the site with a rangefinder. He'd earlier put a drone up, I think. Yeah.

If you're not playing golf and you have a rangefinder, you're trying to shoot something. That's it. There's the only two reasons to use a rangefinder. You're playing golf, you do an archery, or you're trying to shoot something with a rifle. You know. No other thing. But these guys just keep doing this. And I and I know I think we're gonna have a hearing on that, not on that particular case, but just on what the CIA's doing and and how they could do that today.

Well they most certainly can do that today if they could do that in the ninety. Yeah. There's a fantastic book called Chaos by Tom O'Neill. It's all about the Manson family. Have you ever read it? I've seen it and I haven't read it. It's phenomenal and it's mind blowing. You you read it and you and it all documents Jolly West and the MK Ultra program and what they did with Jack Ruby and they visited Jack Ruby after he shot Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby went insane and

had a complete psychotic breakdown and said they're lighting Jews on fire and it was like going nuts. Yeah. And was sane before Ruby vis visited This guy was known to be using LSD on people, unknowing people. They uh they ran Operation Midnight Climax, which is where the CIA actually ran brothels. They had two way mirrors.

And they had these uh supposed prostitutes give these Johns alcohol that had LSD in it and then they'd monitor them. They were they were doing that with people, unsuspecting people, dosing them up, trying to figure out how and what techniques they could use. To manipulate people and to get people to do things they want to know. That's what the whole Manson family was all about.

And what the Manson family, that what those killings did, the Tate Labianca murders, what they did was they turned people against hip Like people had this idea of hippies being peace and love and like oh it's a new world and everyone's just gonna do acid and hug each other and drop out of society. Yeah.

No then it was all of sudden it became no, they're psychotic killers and they're demonic and you know and and this is what we have to think about. We need to ban all these drugs. And that's what they did. And it's kind of fascinating that they were able to do that and do that for so long. It wasn't for the Freedom of Information Act request, and if it wasn't for finding those documents that they found that were just in storage that detailed all this, we wouldn't have any knowledge of that.

Most of that stuff disappears. I'm sure there's a bunch of stuff that we have I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. There's probably a ton of those things that have gone on that they successfully hid. And they got sloppy with this and Johnny West seems like he was a completely insane person. And you know, how could you not be if you were like running around dosing people in the middle of the day? Right.

Fake whorehouses. I mean, it's nuts. The whole story is nuts. But the idea that they go, hey, we shouldn't do that. No even though it was successful, that that doesn't track. That doesn't track with how anything That doesn't track with human nature, it doesn't track with how the government works. The idea that they don't st have people right now and also

How many people are voluntarily on psychiatric medication that alters them? And then without any sort of formal program like MKUltra, just using box. just using AI, just using people's algorithm to turn them, radicalize them in certain way Like of course they're gonna do that. Of course they're gonna try to figure out what they can do, what they can't how they can shift narratives in one direction or another. I mean that's what they do. And Trump's a a threat to their machine. Of course.

Find the answer to it. In our lifetime they might, but by then everybody would be gone again. Well Where's the toxicology examination on Thomas Crooks? Let me find out what he was on. They cremated him. Not only that, like why was his uh place professionally scrubbed? He didn't even have silverware in his house. He had no computers. He had no source.

No internet footprint at all. And then they found stuff that led them to believe that maybe he had international accounts, but he didn't have any, you know, it just It's constant, constant. And it just happens over over every course of ev every time. Not only that, but they documented metadata that tracks specific phones from the Virginia area out near where the FBI area area is.

to his home multiple times. Why? He's a kid. He's just a a young weirdo kid and someone's visiting him over and over again Yeah, and that makes the whole thing even that much more mysterious. It's all weird. And we don't have any answers and no one's asking questions. It's like Bye bye. Went away. You ask the questions, you're still not gonna get the answered.

Right. I mean that will be one of those things that thirty, forty years from now people are gonna be reading books about it, go, What the hell was going on? like the Kennedy assassination. You know in the Kennedy assassination we had a a committee meeting on that, and I asked a question from this doctor who was in um in the emergency room they brought Kennedy in and he he clearly he brought he brought a poster in to show that clearly that the bullets had come from two different

And that was and so it had to be two bullets. It couldn't have been a a very quick ricochet. Yeah. Obviously. And um the whole thing You know, and no press, nobody covered it, nothing. To me that was blockbuster news. I thought that would have been but again, the big boys didn't see fit to put that out and that and there we are. That bullet's return. Well that guns uh. I think that's seven point six two Italian. It's called the only gun that never won a war.

You could have gone to a Western Auto and bought an M one with scopes on it and made a much better shot than that thing. I mean the whole thing just stinks and the gun they show holding up and the gun that they had later, you know, the whole thing is Screwy. Yeah. Well no one had information. So what questions could you even ask?

And there's a great book on it called Best Evidence by David Lifton and he was an accountant that was h hired to go over the Warren Commission report and he started finding all these inconsistencies and contradictions in the Warren Commission report and so then he wrote this book

on all the different things that are wrong with the Kennedy assassination and all the different things that we've been told that couldn't possibly be true. And it's very disturbing. Including how many people that were witnesses that died. Witnesses at the scene in you know, in Dallas that died from weird circumstances and the odds of those people dying of car accident, suicide, murder, robbery, all it's just too strange.

And people they can't find any more that were in those pictures you know Bailey Square. Quick. Yeah. But back then, you know, again, you couldn't ask the questions, you didn't have the internet and now But that I think but nobody's even talking about it. You can't get anybody to bring Or other than they put out it's a fake, you know, it's His ear hailed itself and all this stuff.

His ear was clearly bleeding. He got shot in the ear. You can see the blood come out right away. It's dripping down the side of his face. And the the idea that that's a setup, you cannot be that accurate. You definitely can't be that accurate with a red dot at 140 yards. You can hit him. You could definitely hit him center mass. No problem.

He maybe even you hit him in the head if you're really good and you're prone. But the nicking his ear like that on purpose and to be there and say, Hey, I just want you to nick my ear just a little piece. Like that's there's no there's not a chance that that's a fake. And the guy behind him's dead. So what are you saying? Do you think that's fake? Fireman lost his life.

Yeah, that's crazy. The whole thing's crazy. But it's just this thing where people hate him so much and the narrative in the media, this Trump derangement narrative that you see in the media is so strong and people are so programmed by it and For the average person that has a a a very involved job, you're working all day and then you have a family and you have a life and you have b you don't have time to really go into depth about what's real and what's not real.

And you got that Russia collusion stuff shoved down your throat by mainstream media for years and you believe all Hundred percent. And so you really believed that he's a terrible person, Russian agent, all these different so you want someone to kill him. Yeah, there's th there's a group of folks young folks that are starting to ask some questions. Yes. You know my wife son Tyler, um he lives on the farm there with us and he um he's been asking me

Inquisitive questions because of he doesn't buy it. And a lot of those kids in that generation I'm glad I don't know if it's the Charlie Kirk effect. I don't know what that is. has a f that's a has a definitely effect on it'cause a lot of people don't buy that story either. No. But it's also the internet. The internet has there's enough independent reporters out there that are untied, independent journalists that are untied to any organization

That has a narrative they're supposed to push, and they're uncovering real information that's screwy. Right. It doesn't make any sense. Well and also when they do though they get They get trounced upon by the so called mainstream media. Of course. The amount of media or information people get from the mainstream media is is just it's diminished.

Well COVID song. The way they handled COVID and the way they carried water for the pharmaceutical drug industry and a vouch. And the b yeah, Fauci and now he's gonna walk Is he gonna walk because there's some talk about him possibly being set up for perjury, but there's only a week to go. Yeah. He'll get a stern letter from somebody else.

That drives me crazy, man. I saw you know the big boys you go down to the the big hardware chain and they were allowing people to go in, but they closed down the They closed the churches and the synagogues and everybody down. Yep. And then we just all got in line. They just rang the bell and we're like Pavlov's dog. And we just all got in line. I remember at my hospital in Knoxville. I came out there and you know to get tested.

many times I got tested and I never tested positive, I never took the vaccine or any of that. But I can remember coming out there and they had these um morgues they were setting up just in anticipation of what and I just thought, man, this is if this doesn't work out this is And they did. Greatest transfer of wealth every yeah. Unbelievable. Yeah. And Congress just did it. We just did it and didn't ask any questions.

Well it seems like there's a real pandemic right now on this cruise ship. You know about that henta virus? Yeah. That seems really crazy. And Watch that. The tick thing is nuts. Yeah. Yeah, well cause of meat, cause of gates. Um Well there's a lot of That's not. People are finding I don't know if this is true because I've seen many reports on it, but I'm just gonna say what I saw that farmers and ranchers are finding boxes of ticks on their property. Now I don't know if that's

Fake. I don't know if someone's setting that up to pretend they found these boxes of ticks, but there's videos of these people finding boxes of ticks. Uh what they'll say is they'll probably say they're sterile tick And that we're planting them out there so we can diminish the population, is what they'll say. But any time they try to mess with the balance of nature Is that what they're saying? We're scared. That's what you think. I don't know. Property. Off sterile ticks. No YNN.

That's crazy either way. But I have a good friend of mine who uh got bit by the Lone Star Tick and has that alpha gal problem. Yeah, a kid a guy came up my house yesterday looking at putting gutters up at our house and dad got me he said and I said, You did what? He goes, Yeah, I can't eat anything any meat produced by a mamm

Yes. So my buddy he had it and my friend Evan, so he he had it for a little while and then he did a bunch of treatments and got off of it and then started eating steak again. And he was fine for about a year and a half and then it came back stronger than ever. And he just can't shake it. It's been around that long, so yeah.

He can only eat eggs. I I mean he's basically eating eggs and vegetables. That's all he's eating. Cool. And every time he tries to deviate he has a horrible reaction. It it makes for people that don't know it makes your body allergic to red meat. Right. And who has got genetically made meat now? Yeah.

Yeah. Well th they're doing things with mosquitoes and they're doing they're they're uh messing around with nature in a way that no one's giving you permission to. The general public does not want you doing this. If they could vote on it, they'd say no way.

It's like those those beagles that they show that Fauci. Uh I grew up with Beagles. Sport number one, sport number two. dogs. They are the best dogs ever. And um my buzz was um he's cavalier mix, but he was or we think I'm not really sure, but he was a rescue. And that poor thing had never been on grass, and I see those dogs acting just like poor Buzz. He couldn't climb stairs. And um he's the sweetest.

And those freaking beagles. I just that rips my heart up because there's right now I I've talked to scientists in the labs and they think there's everything we can do now we can do in the lab without Pretty much without Cruelty.

Without cruelty, without you know bringing in beagles. And why beagles? It's very evil. I mean, look, I don't even like when they do it with rats. Yeah. But doing it with puppies is insane. And then euthanizing them after you've forced them to be Yeah, he did some evil stuff. He's a and he lied, like clearly lied. Lied to the American people about transmission, lied to the American people about preventing infection.

I can remember when they brought him to Congress and um I brought him into a meeting I was in and I was in the back and he's a little short guy and I was like who the hell And they brought him in and everybody started cheering. I th I thought I had a bad vibe on him then. And then um you talked to gay folks, you know, he was involved in the A G A Z T. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They d they got a bad feeling towards him. Sure, I mean he's the culprit. He's the villain in that movie The Dallas Byers.

That's about him, preventing people from taking alternative medications. Does that sound familiar? Yeah, exactly what they did during COVID. Right now we're doing it. I was um I was in Blunt County yesterday for a police officer's memorial service.

You know, my my child is uh suffers from a rare disease. And we can't get to this treatment and can you But and Trump's doing that a lot now. And R. F. K. Yeah. R. F. K. Junior people they they'll try to trash him and that's fine. He's a tough guy. But um he um A lot of those trials now are are going forward, cancer and other things. Yeah. And and that's another reason they don't like Trump. Man, you talk about I mean, you got big pharma, you got big agriculture and

Yeah, and a couple of others. And they they run the they run the table. Joe. They run the table. And they I told somebody I you know and of course big energy oil, you know, we get zero. I know it's a commodity and I'm gonna get lit up that oil's a commodity and it you know, the world market. But we get zero oil from Iran. Zero. We we export oil right now.

And yet the price is going through the roof. It's going through the roof because it can. They can. And I always say, well, uh it how does that gasoline in the pumps go up? That's been in the they've already been processed, already been paid for. How does it go up exponentially just overnight?

And how does that and and if that's because it's a commodity and merchant you don't understand, how come that quart of oil that you at the hardware store doesn't go up like that? Wouldn't it it's processed oil, wouldn't it do the same? And of course Diesel. Then it's diesel. And diesel and I've got a diesel duli. I filled it up yesterday. It's over a hundred dollars. You know, it is the cheapest, it is the roughest cut. You know, that's why you have a these incredible filters.

Because it's dirty. And gasoline is the third or fourth cut and it ought to be the most expensive. But it's not. I just think it's a racket. And every time they o they'll hold the hearings and they'll come down there and And you know, and the oil companies will you know, they'll shake that money tree. They know how to do it on both sides of the aisle. It happens all the time. I remember when Bush was leaving office before Obama took office where gasoline just went through the Through the roof.

It the pri everybody was freaking out and no one could explain it. And it was just I was like, Look, they can. This is like the last chance they can to just jack up the prices, jack up the profits, hold everybody hostage. You have to get gas, you gotta drive to work. Got an oil man in the White House. Yeah.

Yeah. I just uh it is and and I'm a capitalist. I'm a heartless capitalist. I make skateboards. Um Skateboards? Yeah, yeah. It's cheaper than a psychiatrist. I go I'm I guess I'm a little bit like Trump. I like ketchup on my steak, although I think he gets his well done. I get my medium rare. But um Yeah. They do, and yes I do. I make this crazy skateboard for um for um Tulsi Gabbard. She's a buddy. She's she's she's kind of a I love her.

I love her too. She is wonderful. And she's from Hawaii. So in Trump's first Oh that's It is. Oh okay. I made that scalable. Yeah, well I put my sticker on it. It's made out of bamboo, oak and banana fibers off the banana plant. Oh wow. And um and she she outs me during the um Trumps first. There's my guys at Pluto Sports. They put my wheels and trucks on. It's just uh they're guys I was in high school with. Um

But anyway. Yeah. Oh yeah. But I don't do the fancy stuff. You don't do tricks? And not anymore. I'm sixty one, dude. I don't heal like I did when I was fifty one, much less when I was a young man. You're only a few years older than me. Well. You look good. Thank you. Sorry, man. I'm just you know, people think I'm on steroids, but I'm naturally this huge. So so she tells he says, Burch it.

I said, hey Tulsi. She says, and she's walking in near the State of the Union, the cameras, people are around. Where's my dad gum skateboard? My birthday's next month. I'm like, oh crap. So I make her this skateboard, right? And that picture comes out. I mean people all over the world are saying, Where can I get a Birchit board? Where can I get a Birchit board? I'm mister you know, I'm trying to be ethical and you know.

And uh I I wal I go down to see the ethics guy and this little attorney tells me he says, Well congressman, you know you gotta You can't do that. You can't call it a Birchit Board. You can't you know, I said, Well, my wife's gotta own the company

And they think, well maybe and then you but you can't work there and all this other stuff. And you know everybody down there's got a side hustle. Right. And I've said, dude, so you're telling me I can do insider stock trading, but I can't sell a dadgum skateboard? And the guy said, That's correct. So anyway, I got about thirty five skateboards in my barn. I just keep making them and I call my attorney. You make'em yourself? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I say it's cheaper than Sakai.

So you make them by hand. Yeah, absolutely. Pretty cool. I make'em I'm cheap, but so I make'em out of uh bamboo that I cut uh Buddy of mine Chris Pointer's got a bunch at his house, but I I go to the synagogue behind the synagogue on Kingston Pike there's a bunch of bamboo and they used to let me cut it. Now that when this airs they probably won't. But um Yeah. And then I I get oak powder. And um and banana fibers we grow off the banana plant. So but anyway I grew Just laminate it all?

Yeah. Well I used fiberglass with that and I'm trying to get away from the carcinogens, you know, the cancer causing. So I'm I use uh Type Mon three glue. It's waterproof and water based.

And then um and then I just sand them all down and'cause you know, you scuff'em up after you ride'em around anyway Anyway, so I make them out of that and I laminate the wood and um my local the steel laborers um they needed a project one year when I was mayor of Knox County and And somebody said, Hey they wanna these guys wanna make a a skateboard press.

I said, W do you want one? I said, Yeah, I'll buy the metal and I'm thinking, you know, they're gonna build me this little thing. No. I mean it's like three burley union metal workers have to put this thing in the back of my daddy gum pickup truck. It is a monster and it um and I can press'em but um and I've got clamps and I do all of it, but anyway. That's pretty cool. But I can't but I can't sell'em.

What are you doing out there? And I said, Well come out there and look at my boards, honey, I'm making skateboards. And I'm saying she always Get you out there. That's one I Laminated up, but um or it's side laminated, but my wife always says, Honey, you go to it. She says, I'm sure they laughed at the guy that created the pool noodle. That's her line. Yeah. Probably right.

Kelly said, Oh yeah, yeah. It was just a piece of insulation off some old rental house and he threw it in the his kids were swimming with it. And he thought, Man, I'm gonna take that. twelve cent piece of foam, take it to Walmart and sell it for six dollars apiece. And now he's probably sitting on some island somewhere laughing at us. But no, I make'em and I've been trying to

Anyway, it's very frustrating. I got a meeting with the attorneys um and the chairman of the ethics committee who is a really good guy. And we're trying to work it out. So It's not even though it's a lot of money in handmade skateboards. No maybe. That's ridiculous. A little ridiculous it. Somebody's gonna Yeah, they're gonna sway my vote'cause they bought a dad gum skateboard from me. Yeah. I I took one to an auction in in um Fifty two hundred. Oh.

And then some other guy s comes up and says, Tim, I was at the bar and I missed it. If I give'em fifty two hundred, will you make me one? So I got a couple and then my friends in Claiborne County, um, the uh the mountains up there, they um

chair of the committee and they asked me in the somehow I thought I was making one and then I got out of there I was making three. So I don't know. And then I uh you people just like'em and they put'em on their wall. I mean you know, you're not gonna be in the Olympics with Tony Hawk's not uh go, Hey Tim Birchett, will you make me a board? you know. But it's it's just for cruising down the sidewalk kind of thing.

That's awesome. That's awesome. It sucks that they won't let you sell it though. That's yeah. You sell your soul, but I can't sell a skateboard.

Speaking of salin, um you were telling me uh earlier before we started, and I said save this because I want to talk about this later. Yeah. Yeah. That the Taliban gets how many millions of dollars a week? about forty million dollars a week. Um It all happened. podcast and they were talking about it and um Sean Ryan. And he had he I love that dude. Yeah, great American. Good man.

He's a good Christian man. He's been through it. You know, he's an incredible guy, uh, that they've asked to do horrible And people like that I give them a wide path. I let them slide on a lot of things. But he's he's a good daddy and and um And he he he worries about our country. He reminds me a lot of my dad, because dad was he couldn't wake my dad up um to the day he died over the top of him. Always by

'Cause he'cause he might wake up on one of those islands and pin me against the wall. Right. His marine on Peleliu and Okinawa. Daddy's colonel was a guy named Chesty Puller, Colonel Puller. You can look him up. He was a Marine Corps legend, but and my daddy loved him. But um

Anyway, the um I'm I'm on this podcast with Sean and he says, Hey, I want you to introduce Eli Crane, he's a mer he's a excuse me, Navy SEAL in Congress. He said, I want you to go on this podcast with Sean Ryan. I said, I don't know who Sean Ryan is. I'm not a podcast guy. I don't uh my daughter always give me your phone you know, I don't know how to do it and all of a sudden I got a cool picture of her on there. I don't even know how she did it. But so I'm on there and um

And he calls me and says, I want you to meet with this guy. He goes by the name Legend, and that's not his real name. But um he um He he comes up he comes into the office and he has to he can't use his real name. And uh and says, Look, they're getting forty million dollars a week. I said, Who is? He said, The Taliban. And he's a he's a um Afghanistan

It fought for us. And so he's dual citizenship. Introdu you know, I talked to the pre four last democratically elected president of Afghanistan through him on a on a call. And um and he's a deer for me. And he comes by all the time and we talk and and so John Stout in my office who

He's the best. I mean this guy his mom and daddy were in a very tragic car accident and they um they prayed through it and and they both lived. I mean daddy had to get banged up and his mama's head got banged up pretty bad and John's just he's he is the quintessential staffer because he's so loyal and he loves this coach. And so he said, Boss, I think I got an idea. I said, All right. So he figured out this monitoring thing.

What they do is they um they send they send pallets of cash to'em through whatever and they uh there's three bank And um over there that are owned by the television. And everything goes through'em. You know, the Lord takes ten percent with tithe and uh but the Taliban takes a hell of a lot more. They take it right off the top and on ingress and egress. If you g

Give them money or take money away. I mean or if you spend money or put money in or whatever, you take in or pay out. They get their cut off of it. Every dad gum time. And so I'm thinking this can't be right. I got a memo on my desk from the State Department. It's stamped So I can't talk about it. But then it's stamped unclassified under it, so I can talk about it. And it basically said under the Biden administration, they think we gave them five billion dollars with a B, five billion.

Uh and you've got NGOs. Now how many NGOs you think operate out of over there? And the A out of Afghanistan. Yeah, it's... It's the freakingest it's the biggest scam. NGOs I wrote a letter to the president months ago and I'm uh they've tapped the brakes on the NGOs. I mean some of'em don't have any money and some of'em got a lot. But Elon Musk told me

Like I really know him. I mean I've hung out with him a couple of times and we talked. Called me Tim, which I thought was pretty cool. Um but he says uh um He says, Tim, here's how these NGOs work. He said, you know, they start out as a good organization, maybe during Bush One or Bush Two. You know, a lot of those limousine liberals do gooders, you know, they start these organizations.

And they um they set'em up and and to do, you know, feed the starving children or whatever. Well They don't have any money in'em, and some billionaire who we could we all know you can just name'em, they'll drop a million in one of them. And then this unelected bureaucrat in Washington D C says, Hey, they got a million dollars. This place is legit and so they give them money. They put the money in there for'em and then They start running federal money through that yours and my tax.

He told me he thinks they stole over a trillion dollars and I thought at the time I thought that was crazy. But then I start looking at um Uh you know, what happened in uh Minneapol Minnesota. Nineteen billion. Joe, when I went to state legislature, I think that's a good idea Our our state budget of Tennessee wasn't nineteen billion dollars as years ago, so it's a lot more than that now. But

That's the uh the amount of fraud and waste and abuse that go on. Well, so back backtrack to this deal. So I get involved with it and um And it it's just unbelievable. It took me two I I passed the bill twice. And the second time my buddy John Stout in the office there, he comes up with even stronger And so we send it to the Senate. And so we find out that there's a Senate staffer.

But re somebody said he's like the unofficial uh ambassador to He's I I've literally read where he said it seem appears to me complimentary things about the Taliban. Now those people want to kill us. They'll as I like to say, they'll hate us for free. We don't need to give'em any money. Well it's like pull it's like pulling teeth through my committee. The Democrats raised ruckus. And uh because obviously they don't want anybody looking at those NGOs. And the NGO money now get this.

Maybe a little bit goes to feed some starving kid, but a lot of it gets washed and it goes back to the good old United States of America. Are you familiar with dark money and campaigns? Yes. You know, you're and I'll the folks back home e the day before the election. Approve this ad. Did you know Tim Burchett, you know, pushed his second grade girlfriend down in a mud puddle and never apologized?

That's what happened. You know, and then paid for by the people for America Justice. You know. And then but what's happened is is that money that you're sending over there is coming back in the form of dark money. And we've got and and I've I think both parties are involved with it at some point. I think the Democrats have had the

ha had a run of it and they've they've got a they've got it pretty much closed. They've got a pretty good market going on it in my opinion. And there are probably some Republicans I think I know of that are that have some dark money too. And uh not necessarily from this but from other things. And then you start talking about the UN.

The UN has got and and everybody say so that's UN, Burchett. We don't have any the heck we don't. We sponsor the freaking UN. If it was up to me, I'd pull out of the Dadgum UN. They are nothing. All they do is get Americans killed. Yeah. They they talk ugly about us and then they take our dead gum money and we let'em do it. Because crooked politicians are in bed. Washington is crooked as a dog's leg, Joe.

And this bill makes them report it and and and follow the money so we know where it's going. And if it's going to the pal Taliban, it's out. And so just explain to me how they would justify sending money to the Taliban and what what is like what is the circumstance? They justify it by saying it doesn't happen.

They justify it by saying it doesn't happen. But I'm talking to a guy, this guy legend, who's got people on the ground and and the people over there, the the freedom fight are saying, Please quit sending them money. Please and you know, they When we left over there, you know, we left how many billions of dollars worth of of armaments on the ground. They said, Oh

Uh you know, I mean I I heard Democrats saying, Well those people can't fly those high end choppers. Well you know who could? The Dadgum Chinese who were on the ground before we got out of So it's it's just a crooked game. It's a small portion. I know But explain, how's the money getting to them? Okay. We fund the NGOs. Correct. The NGOs send money to the Taliban. Why why would they do that? Because I get a cutoff. They don't care.

Okay. So the Taliban gets forty million and then they send that money back Some of it comes back and some of it doesn't. Um But as long as they get a piece of it, they don't care how much the tower. Right. And it reprires a report on the Afghan fund and the Afghanistan central bank. And these reports, of course, would shed light on the Taliban's influence over the Afghanistan central bank. And

You can um you can research it. A lot of it is is these do-gooder programs. You know, Oh man, we're taking care of the orphans, we're taking care of this. And you know good and well they ain't taking care of any dead gum orphans. They're stealing the money to do it. And it just infuriates me. And then I hear him say, Well it's not happening. I say, Well it's not happening. Then Dad Gummet passed the bill. What's it hurt? What's it hurt?

Worthless legislation every daggum day. And you know, and I can't get a peep. I said to Thone when he came in when King Charles was in which was kinda funny too. I had funny conversation with King Charles. But By the way, no king. I'm not a kid. Everybody cheered. What the heck, guys? See how I threw that plug in? But um Central Bank of Afghanistan said it received another injection of forty million dollars in cash this week, and this is literally hundred dollar bills in stacks. Is that real?

Is that what is that a stock photo or is that them showing a photograph of the money they received? Because I can't imagine they're sending bricks of cash. Oh yeah. Absolutely. It's pallets. It's called a pallet of cash. What? I'm reading through this explanation of it from these reports. And I'm not as I'm looking at the same thing. I got a mutual fund. I don't understand all the money, but when I sit here forty million dollars going overseas. In cash too is crazy.

Take it and d divvy it up and Yeah, this is a good one Afghanistan is responsible for purchasing, transporting, and transferring at least two point nine billion dollars in US currency to Afghanistan. This is from So that they have to find the cash on you know Call your senator and say I want this dead young bill on the floor. Easy.

It's past the committee and it was like pulling teeth. It was 'Cause apparently I offended somebody, which I'm sure I did now, but But I don't understand why anybody wouldn't recognize that giving money to a an organization that hates A fundamentalist r religious organization that They're not a religion. They're not a religion. They're a they're a A culture

Yeah, whatever you want to call it. Since its first cash shipment, UN has made at least eighty purchases of cash for transport to Afghanistan. Eighty. Eighty purchases of forty million dollars. The UN reportedly reported that it began purchasing and shipping cash because of Afghan's bank's inability to participate in international wire transfers and Afghanistan's lack of domestic currency circulating throughout its economy. Oh, so we gotta help'em out and give forty million dollars a week.

Yeah. And the starving kids are still starving and the little orphans aren't being taken care of. And they're still throwing gays off of buildings and poking little girls out. Are there any gays left that Well they gotta be in the closet. I have some buddies that serve.

Afghan general or something one time he told me and he used he used to work for me and he had he had mental issues Oh it's horrible. I see my dad my dad wouldn't go back to Okinawa because uh if I can digress quickly, uh they daddy went back for the fiftieth anniversary of the invasion of Peleliu and he said I said, You gonna go back to fifty fifty'cause you know, those Marines it's not a lot of those guys are left, you know, and they're all gone now. But he said I gotta go back to the fire.

And he said he told me this story. He said they came over this hill. And a Corsair caught a bunch of Japanese out in this field. He's caught dad called it a lucky strike. Daddy love a Corsair that thing dive at over four hundred miles an hour and just lit'em up, caught'em out.

obliterated'em and they run up on'em. And um they had been raping some of the islanders or Korean girls that they'd they'd collected and um and I think that messed with my dad off of all the stuff he saw, blowing caves and shooting people up close. And that's what he said I won't go into it'cause I got a daughter that's gonna be watching this thing. But um it was and and that's that's what scarred my daddy. You'd have loved him.

My buddy Chris Agart he got a he got a Acura for Christmas when it was a bright red accuracy You know, accurate's not made in America at the time. And dad goes, Hag He says, My daddy was a dean at UT, dean a student counter, goes, Where's that thing made? And he goes I reckon it's made in Japan, CB, and that goes.

I reckon you're gonna be parking that thing out in the street. Daddy just went back in the kitchen, I went out and moved his act out on the street. Nobody messed with my dad. He was I remember the neighbor one time she comes over and said, Somebody's in my house. And I was like, What? And I'm downstairs. And I r run upstairs and dad runs by me with a browning high power.

seventy years old, and he was clearing that house. He ran in that house and I remember Mom was on the phone and said, Don't shoot my husband, he's in a blue powder leisure suit Oh man, he was something else. He was Yeah, mama was something else too. They were they were they were real Christians, so they weren't bumper sticker kind of Christians. People would I would uh and I I to this day I don't like I love the Waffle House. You know, it's America's premier steakhouse.

And um and I go in there and um and I don't I don't like eating breakfast food any other time than at breakfast'cause I can always remember as a little boy, daddy would always pick up somebody on the interstate, somebody broke down, black folks, white folks.

you know, anybody and um or some U T student that was having a little rough go and bring'em to the house and there wouldn't be enough hamburgers for me, my brother, sister and I know the five of us, and uh but Mama could make enough breakfast.

And I always knew that Daddy had brought somebody home and we were gonna be eating bre we were gonna be eating breakfast for supper and that always ticked me off as a kid, you know. I didn't understand at the time, but now I realize I had pretty cool parents, so That's awesome.

Can I show you a cool picture of my mama? Sure. She flew an airplane during the Second World War. She was um I was hanging out with Kid Rock one time and I'm gonna use a little language Bobby and him and I said, I know your your thing is you're the American badass. I said, But I was raised by the American badasses and I got on Peleliu and Okinawa and with this Thompson submachine gun stuff. But here's my mama. Somebody colorized this. She's just a little country girl.

And flying an airplane during the second her brother Roy, who was thirty-three years old, got killed in the hedgerows. Wow. She's a beautiful woman. They colorized that. And I I'm an unrepentant mama's boy. Yeah, that's crazy. She got her foot up and I've got a picture of my daughter. We were at the air show and the guy had a biplane over there and he wasn't gonna There it is. Oh, thank you, Jamie. You're the man.

But that's in Nashville. And somebody, it was National Women's Aviators Day, and everybody's showing all these pictures of these women. And I said, Well, I'm gonna have to one up y'all. And I I put that up there and somebody sent it to me. I didn't know, just a supporter, not even in my district, and they colorized it for me. Wow and so I was

Uh, you know, and that company that uh I can't read the name off of all the parachute, but I think they're still in business and but anyway that was in Nashville. You can see it they're on dirt. And um and the the crazy thing was when she qualified, I don't know how long how many how long you gotta fly with an instructor before you solo.

Well, they messed up and they did it in half they they did the math wrong on it, which was crazy'cause mamma was a math teacher, but she was a country girl and she she was she's in it for the fight and she's a lot like my wife. My wife is a fighter too. She whew Um you don't get between her or anybody in our family, but but um mama um they uh uh she soloed in half the time that she was supposed

And you know, the war's going on and and they I've I've still got her little log book and um and they tried to redo the math on it and it was wrong but you know, Mama just daddy said, Yeah, I bet she cleared out a fence row when she landed and then uh No. But she was pretty cool. It's gotta be an a a terrible slap in the face of these people that served in Afghanistan to find out that the Taliban's getting a little bit of a little bit of a little My buddy Eli Crane, I just look over at him.

And he's one beautiful human being. I love Eli Crane. He is my buddy. And um Lone Survivor um Marcus Latre. Yeah, his brother is uh Morgan. Morgan, yeah, he's the catcher on our on our baseball team. And uh I was out there one day and um we were we we we don't actually practice in the best part of town. And uh but we've got security everywhere'cause when they shot Skalise and all those guys years back, um we've got

I feel very secure. And I heard this pop, pop, pop, pop. And the and this young officer, DC officer, said Capitol Policeman said, It's okay, guys. I think it's fireworks and Morgan took his hat off and goes, Burchett, that was gunfire and I thought I'm going with what Morgan says. He never fired a shot in anger. And um

And I love those guys. They're wonderful people. And I do too. I I I hurt for'em. I used to hurt for my daddy because he would um he'd talk about China. They went to China after the war and he fought the communist over there for a short while and then um before he left the Marine Corps, but uh how we just turned them over and that he would talk about that and he would he would be visibly upset.

because of that. You know, these we just we want to get these wars over and we don't we don't deal with the repercussions. We don't deal with the repercussions of we got warriors that we need to heal and we gotta you know and It's just very frustrating to me. Yeah, well. Sorry.

You know, kudos to Trump for passing this psychedelics bill. Oh, good gosh, I saw you on that. I love that. I w I talked'cause I I didn't know anything about it. And I and I asked um I asked some of those guys about it before And they said, Oh yeah, Burchett, it it's w I one uh one member confided in me that he'd you know,'cause he'd been in some of the mess and he and I and I told him, I said, You know, my daddy was Had anger issues and stuff. He never beat Mama or me or anybody but

I know. How could you expect that's the crazy thing. You expect this of people to do Horrible things and to see horrible things and then to come back and just go to the grocery store. Just be normal. Yeah. Just sit in traffic. Be normal. I remember one time we were at a U T football game and I was a little boy, I must have been four or five and uh

And dad we were on the fifty yard line, it was in the sixties, and they uh they let you bring these cowbells and it was the last game they let you bring cowbells too. I don't know, you can probably do it now, but back then they they and so this guy was sitting behind us and he was drunk. And he and he took the Lord's name in vain. And my daddy said, Hey he said, We got ladies down here. You know, my sister who was probably seven or eight and or and my mama was there.

And the guy said, Okay, and then the guy spilled his drink on my dad and my mama grabbed us all as kids and just running. And and I remembered I was like, Noah, what's daddy doing? you know? And the U T cops, they loved my daddy'cause he was dean of student conduct. He always backed them up. And um they come running down the aisle and literally my dad b whipp beat these guys ass, all three of'em, right there on the fifty yard line at Neeland State.

And I was just a little boy and I was like You didn't give high fives back then, but if I had I would have given him'cause he was He was pretty incredible guy. Well guy's been to war like that man had Yeah. And it wasn't any different than thousands of other of his buddies, you know. They would get together and talk about stuff and and I you know, we didn't drink in the house. My mom and daddy didn't let me have a beer can collection. M Daddy's buddy Red Welch.

and red drank beer at the ha at the dinner table. And it was in the eighties. I wasn't I wasn' gosh, I was getting ready to go to college. And that was still no beer in the house. And Red was drinking beer. And I said, Daddy, I said, what's the deal? Buddy, he said, you get pinned down on one of them islands and you got you know you're gonna get you're gonna

Leave this earth pretty soon. There's one guy that comes running for you. He can do pretty much whatever he wants to in your house and that was red. I found an old picture of him and Daddy in China the other day. But yeah. Daddy had um he had a great life though. He had a great life.

Him and mom are both buried at Betram Cemetery there in Knoxville. And you know, to this day I'm sixty one years old and if I go up there I I I think about them and their sacrifice and I cry like a baby.'Cause I I go to that capital, Joe, and I see people just Throw it all away. Throw it all away. And to me, that's just that's that is unforgivable. Unforgivable. Well, I'm very happy that some of these people that have experienced these horrible things

Yeah, and that is and and thank you for getting involved, brother. That is that was huge. Well, I couldn't see that ever do what? Thank Rick Perry. Yeah. Rick Perry and Brian Hubbard, because if it wasn't for them explaining to me what they've been through and w how it's helped people and all the other people that I know, like Marcus Lutrell was a friend who

Dude, it wouldn't have happened. I talked to everybody and they said it wouldn't have happened if it wouldn't have been for you. You use that microphone for for good and I appreciate it'cause a lot of people aren't. Well I never asked him for anything. Up until that moment and I was like, if there's a thing that I could do that might uh make the world a little bit of a better place

And the fact that those things were made illegal in the first place is just ridiculous. It should have never happened. They should have been studied and we could understand how they could help people, especially when you consider how many people are on antidepressants in this country. It's epidemic. Tim Walsh's daughter. the guy who was running for vice president, his daughter just made a post on social media where she was talking about how she's been on him for fifteen years and she's realizing

that they're a real problem and she every time she's tried to get off it's been devastating. Yep. And I know people that have also been on'em that they try to get off'em, like my friend Thri Theo Vaughn and the roof falls off and like Every time he starts talking about something that drives him crazy, I just gotta kinda rein him in and just like calm down like You know, if you've had friends take their lives and I've had a few Quite a few.

It's a it's a horrible feeling when you think about it and you go, What could I have done? What could I have said? How could I have done And and so much so we don't know. Um Mm my oldest friend in the world guy named Scott Davis. He and I were at little red schoolhouse.

his his brother took his life and he was depre he suffered from depression and this was in the eighties and we didn't understand it. You know, I was with a guy yesterday, one of his best friends, uh Ben Testerman, he was telling me

You know, I I talked to him a c you know, we I came home, he was he was a professional uh tennis player, and he came home and was talking to Jeff and he said, you know, he said, I just feel like I'm in a hole and nobody gets that. And and and people will say to him, I hear people all the time say Just get over it, man. You know, go for a jog. And there's some freaking chemical imbalance that we don't under something has happened that's jarred them that we don't understand.

And that is if if there's one avenue that gets it, you know, and but big pharma, again, big ag, big pharma, it's like hemp. Yeah. Why the hell are we not growing hemp? Right. It just drives me crazy. Drives me crazy as well. It doesn't make any sense. Especially when you find out all the stuff that is legal. It's like have some consistency. It doesn't make any sense.

How many people do we lose every year? And a lot of my friends are in the alcohol business. But it it's a personal responsibility issue with me. You know, if you do it, it's your business. But if you break the law,

Yeah, and listen, I'm not a big drinker, but I think you should be allowed to drink. I think I don't think there's anything wrong with being allowed to smoke cigarettes. If that's what you want to do, you should be able to do it. I believe in freedom. But I don't I think we should be consistent and the fact that there's these things that could help people that are suffering.

PT S D and C T E and then we have this thing that we've known about for decades and the only person that had the courage to try to push an executive order is Trump. And if I Again. Again, he is he is enemy number one with a lot of things.

Well, I mean, uh thank God he's got the kind of courage that he has to push stuff like that through because uh the guys. It's gonna change a lot of humans' lives, a lot of veterans' lives, a lot of first responders, a lot of police officers, a lot of people that have experienced violent crime. And it just it's gonna change a lot of people. Women that have been abused. Above.

And they're not like gonna be walking around like some kind of crazy zombies thing. It's a it's a very controlled thing. And Especially Ibegaine. Ibogaine is not recreational in any shape or form. No one's taking it recreationally. I've never done it but I've heard it's a terrible experience. But you come out on the under end of it and

Rick Perry was also talking about how he's experienced natural brain atrophy, being a man in his seventies. He went and got an examination after he did it and his brain atrophy had dropped by twenty five percent. He went back in six months later, it was all gone. Just that alone. Wow. Think about all the elderly people out there that are suffering for memory loss and all these different issues that people have.

That that could fix them and that it's a l literally just one experience that you have that takes twelve hours and when it's over, you're better? That's crazy. And then we've keep kept this from people. There's no chance of people being addicted? Somebody wants to continue. But at some point in time we've got to be human. Oh, I agree. All these money people have to realize you o you only have a certain amount of time on on this planet. Need to shut'em out.

And you have an opportunity to make the world a better place. And we gotta say no to people that just want personal money. They just want the p personal funds that gonna go to their money, that's gonna go to their bank accounts, gonna go to their company c their corporation. Personal benefit at at the expense of who knows how many people, including literal heroes. When's enough enough for those guys?

Yeah, when is enough enough? I mean this is the same feeling that I have about this disclosure stuff. Like I don't care what it's gonna affect. I don't care like If there is real things out there that we don't know about, you as a human being have no right to keep that from the rest of humanity. There's I don't care what your title is, I don't care what three letter organization you work for. You're a human being and you have an obligation to the other human beings to alert us.

The fact that there's people that have if this is real and there's people that have gone to their grave with this information that would literally change the course of human history, that's a crime. It's a real crime. Could you imagine? the poor countries, the people that suffer you know, the the deserts and things like that. If you could you could cool their

huts or whatever and we get out of these worthless wars which are over oil all the time. Right. And it just it would end it all in just a stroke of a pen almost.

What do you think it is? I go back and forth. I I know it's a little crazy and this will probably cost me election'cause they've tried to use it against me in the past. It will only help you at this point. I think um I think we need to look at these deep water areas. I have a hard time believing that something can travel light years in some suspended state they have to be in some kind of suspended state. So I have a trouble with that.

Five gentlemen that came to my house, four or five that came to my house that time. They were talking about a moon that was around Saturn or Jupiter that they'd done some testing with that they that i they think would be capable of something and the moon was larger than our earth, of course, but um There's a moon that's larger than our Earth. Yeah, around Jupiter or Saturn. That doesn't make any sense. I don't think that's correct. Well, maybe I'm wrong. Check it out.

No, no, no. There's no moons that are larger than a planet. No it's but Circles around it. Is that accurate? Do I not know about this? Yeah, but there's not I don't believe there's a moon out there that's larger than our planet.

These guys seem to think that something could travel from there and it was the quantum physics I you know, after talking to that admiral, you know, it makes me wonder if there is something in these deep ocean areas that the the old cliche we know more about the surface of the moon than we do the surface of the ocean floor in some areas I think is true because we're we're not down there.

Logically, this is that's the one place where we don't go and it covers seventy five percent of the earth at least, right? And if you wanted to hide, that would be I mean if you were monitoring humans. Let's say that humans are on this path of technological evolution and then they recognize that humans have split the atom, we've developed uh atomic weapons and we've used them and

they want to make sure that we don't blow up the entire planet before we achieve some sort of enlightenment. Right. Before we bypass whatever territorial primate Yeah. We're on our way to we're getting better. We're clearly better than we were a thousand years ago and better than we were three thousand years ago. We're on our way to being a more advanced civilization, but

It's possible that we could screw it all up at any point in time and blow ourselves the smithereens. I would imagine they would want to monitor. One maniac in Iran. Yeah. If they hadn't stopped that their nuclear I I'm convinced that they're I mean, they were out for Armageddon. They'd have launched something. They had the capabilities go all the way to England. I think if they put one close to Israel

It'd be over. And you people like North Korea who have terrible technology on missiles, the biggest threat there was if they put one up in the air that the nuclear cloud could blow over China. And so there's i that could have had some incredible bad repercussions. Well the fact that there's so many different countries that have nuclear weapons and we're just relying on these people to keep their shit together is nuts. It's nuts. Completely nuts. Yeah. And they're and they're maniac.

Yeah. Well it's it makes sense that if you were a super advanced life form from wherever that if you wanted to have base, some sort of a base where you'd monitor us, it would be You'd be right there. You could get out of it real quick and go to wherever you wanted to go.

Orbs was the thing I was thinking of earlier. Orbs. That's that's the new word that you hear a lot of. And it's it's getting away from saucers and Well there's a lot of weird stuff with orbs where people say that they could summon them. Yeah. I'm not on the... There's someone a friend of mine wants me to go and do it with her. She's she's uh my friend's wife has like experienced it and she's like, You gotta try it I'm like, uh Now that to me is

I don't know if she I don't know. I don't have permission to talk about it. I don't know if she wants me to talk about it but Uh I'm like, okay, what do we gotta do? Be careful that about the sex cult angle. Well she's not no No, you're a good looking guy, Joe. No no no. No, this ain't that. This is not that. She's been my friend for twenty years. She's married to my friends. No, I'm saying the angle that they use. Well this lady's not that she's a comedian.

Uh is but there are a lot of kooky people that do uh have sex. That the sex culture w every cult turns into a sex cult, right? Power. You know I almost bought a building in Austin that was owned by a cult. Yeah. Um the original comedy mother. was uh the original location was a place called the One World Theater. The One World Theater was owned by this cult. And uh I kinda knew about it because Ron White told me about it'cause they had this theater that they built

to uh f so that their leader can perform in front of them. And then the cult got disbanded. The cult there's a documentary about the cult called Holy Hell. And uh Yeah, it's crazy. It's cra but it's a sex cult. It was a guy who is a I he started out in California and he was a gay porn star and a hypnot. Which is a wonderful combination of Like you do. Yeah. And also a yoga teacher. So he starts out teaching these people yoga. And I don't know if I've ever taken yoga before.

I've taken a bunch of yoga classes with a bunch of different instructors and most of them have been amazing. But a few of them were very cultivated. Very culty. And there's this one guy that I took classes from way back in the day, like more than twenty years ago. And he was in California and he was sleeping with a bunch of the ladies that were there and he was kind of he was kinda like a cult guy. Yeah. Like he was like Yeah. Yeah.

Singing, singing stupid songs, but it was like very full of himself. It was gross. He was gross. And you know, everything wound up falling away. But then he ran for Congress and Mm. But there's a lot of these people that for whatever reason that's where it all boils down to. They wanna have sex with everybody's wife and they wanna run at everything and they want, you know, run to the mill and tell you know Very strange.

That's where the demonic stuff comes in with Christians when you call these things down. Why do you think that that has to do with sex cults? Why would the aliens have to do with sex? But I don't think it's the aliens. I think it's um I just think some people are abusing the the people's th they think that They're they're using their belief in UFOs to draw them in and to some sort of thing and Have you knowledge of this kind of stuff? Yeah. I hear about all of it I've got to do.

Can you talk about like Not on the air. Okay. I don't want to get sued.

Okay. The underwater bases uh or the underwater listening. This is what an admiral told me. So w did they say locations that are these things are coming from, or is there an actual physical base that they've observed?

they they don't have the capabilities to get down that deep actually. Um but they did say that that the sightings were happening in about in in I think four of the five deep water areas around And so And he didn't have any other you know, and then I was on talking about it and somebody said, Tim Burchett says that they're underwater bases, you know, and and then uh You know what I mean?

Gates was on the other day and he s he was he was briefed. I just told what I was briefed on and he was briefed by a guy that said it was in in uniform that said that they were breeding Um they were capturing and breeding them with with these aliens.

And you know, he just talked What? So yeah, he was on you can pull it up. I mean uh Matt Gates, he talked about it. He he didn't say he believed it, but you know, we talk about we get briefed on that's what I'm talking about the PSYOP. They g here's part of the problem too. They bring you information and you go forward with this and this is oh this is the truth, you know, these underwater bases, whatever. And then

They prove it doesn't exist and then they just discredit you and they discredit the whole movement. So that's why I'm very cautious anytime anybody brings me any information or pictures testimony or in a third cousin's recollection. That is the disinformation thing is a problem. They'll tell you some truth and mix it in with some really kooky stuff. And then you say the kooky stuff along with it and the kooky stuff just discredits everything that's true. True.

Yeah. And Lazar talked about that too. He said they would Tell people certain things that weren't true and they would tell different people different things that weren't true. So if the story got leaked out, they would know who leaked it. So that anchor would be like oh that was Mike. Mike told the That's when that's uh I always warn our other members when we go into the skiff and talk about

First time I've ever heard that one, or or that's that's sort of what we heard the last time. And then I said everybody just if it gets out then they'll come after you or And make you look like that. So they talk to you about deep water areas where sightings occur. And so it's just a presumption that somewhere in that deep water they're emanating from that. Well he also he described uh.

Gat Gates claims whistleblower told him of alien human hybrid program The alleged program involved captured extraterrestrials mating with abducted humans from war zones and migrant caravans to create hybrids for intergalactic communication. He claimed the whistleblower identified between six and twelve such facilities in the US and sought coordinated congressional visits to prevent relocation of the activities, though Gates did not verify any of the information.

How could you? You gotta talk to the hybrids? Yeah. I just want to go I just want to go to the t shirt shop.

Yeah, the pastor's thing that I sent you, Jamie's. Yeah, that's What do you think about all that? I don't buy that. I don't. So this is a guy it says his name is uh Alan Dido. Yeah. And uh it's weird. Capital D, lowercase I, capital D lowercase I O. Didio? Um after sitting in a private meeting with pastors and those connected to these investigations, the message was clear. UFO and UAP disclosure is coming. Pastors must prepare their people now. Silence is not an option. Well what is that?

Like what are they preparing the people for? Like what why would they prepare I've never heard of you know I would think that's a good thing. he'd have brought anybody in, he'd have brought Franklin Graham in. Is this gentleman a pastor himself? Click on his uh Of course he did. Of course he does. Oh, so his show is about disclosure? No no I don't know that. around his bio please? Like what it clicks what it says equipping end time believers for the next great awakening. Oh boy.

I also I would warn people that think we're in the end times. The Bible is pretty clear about that. It says that they don't even the angels in heaven. When the end times are. The end's coming. Yeah. Well that's I'm always very suspicious of people that say

I remember when we're I was living in LA there was a a billboard. Do you remember those billboards, Jamie? Where there was the guy was like saying a very specific date where the the end was coming, the rapture was gonna h and then it didn't happen. He's like, Oh, I got some bad information, it's coming soon. Yeah. I did my math wrong. I remember I I see those all the time. I just shake my head.

Yeah, that's the guy. May 21st, 2011. Cry mightily unto God. Judgment Day. Oh boy. And it's look at look at the gold stamp. The Bible guarantees it. By the way, I read the Bible. I've never read anything where there's a guarantee of this day. Yeah. May twenty first, two thousand. Yeah. Um so when they tell you things, is there anything that they tell you that you could tell us?

Like how much of what they told you is like completely top secret that you're not allowed to say until they disclose it? A lot of it. A lot of it. Yeah.

Is there anything that really disturbs you? Yeah. Stuff that they were talking about and Treatment of people and The capabilities and this was The treatment of people by these supposed extra treatments. No, by our own government, but but that we're we're trying to come forward with this stuff. But also Yeah, they told me some pretty creepy stuff. So I would um again Yeah, I bring this out and then they're busting my ass for it. What do you think is going on? Like be so

I think it's a cover up. I think there's something else out there. I do not think we're the best that God can do. And I really just don't know, Joe. There's so many options it could be. Um one of these groups that met with me, they they described several different types of beings and they go through all of them. How m you know No, I it just changes. I don't I don't get caught up in that.

Just say, I just want to know what we're spending tens of millions of dollars on. That's all. I don't care if I don't I don't it's not about little green man, it's not about fine saucers. It's what are we spending this money on if they say they don't That should be the answer. The question and then and the answer will come from that. Okay. So if they do exist. When you say you think it's a cover up, what do you think it's

Well, I think they really do exist. And I don't think that there's such a such a finite group of people that actually know it. And um and you got a lot of charlatans out there that say they know it and they're out there they're selling memberships. Of course. But uh Or something to it. I'm always very suspicious of anybody who speaks definitively about something like that where you can't possibly know. And then they don't offer up any proof of this.

And they say, Well, I've seen the pictures. Well bring me the dadgum picture. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, those guys came out the house. That was pretty convincing. You know, that was before the um For the hearings that we have. Clear was the video. Clears the screen. I mean it was pretty clear. Um you know, and that was pre AI. AI was such a new thing and then it fit in with what the tic tac videos were and the um The heat signature is what always what I always thought was unusual.

Right. And then the quantum physics angle of it is mind blowing to me. And you have no knowledge of what's supposed to be released,'cause it th we're today's Wednesday. I'm gonna know tomorrow at three. Tomorrow at three PM, is that when the world knows? No. I think they're going to ask me, just give me a little bit of it. But I got a feeling they're not going to tell me much. I got a feeling they're not going to tell America much. When uh is it supposed to be disclosed this week?

Whatever they're doing. I don't know. I don't know. But uh if they're going to disclose it to us, then it'll be out right as soon as they hang up the phone with some guys. Do you feel an obligation if they don't release it to try to tell people what you know?

I do. I do. I do. I think it's um'cause I don't like it if they're lying to us. And I I but again, I don't think Trump knows I mean these people have kept this stuff secret. I w uh here's another thing. I was in at one meeting and a guy said I said, What about the president on this? And he said the president's on a need to know That's a federal employee saying that he or she has I I I just was aghast, man. I said on some the sci-fi network or something.

That'd be the title of my book. I mean that that that that oughta tell you right there that that this thing is a is a cover up. And I don't and I and It's kinda like MK Ultra. I don't think we're gonna get the they're not gonna tell I really don't. I don't think they're gonna give us But you think we're gonna get something? I think we'll get something. Do you know how put off?

Do what? Do you know how put off? No. Do you know who he is? I thought you said how put off you are right now. Putoff was in the documentary as well. He was in age of disclosure and he was a guest on the podcast. And one of the things that he told me is that During the Bush administration, they brought in h him and a bunch of other scientists and thought leaders, and what was explained to him was that they are considering disclosure and that there have been visits

of these super intelligent beings from somewhere else that we have retrieved crashed vehicles and that we have biological remains. That's correct. And we are talking about disclosing we would like you to make a list of all the ways that it'll negatively affect society and all the ways that it'll positively affect society and attach a numerical value to these things.

And they all did it and every one of'em said the negatives far outweigh the positives in terms of the impact on government, the impact on the economy, religion, all the all these different factors and how the how it would disrupt society. And in the end they decided not to disclose. Yeah. We don't buy it. I don't mind. I mean I I don't doubt what he's saying. I know all those guys now that you mentioned I was moved

met'em all afterwards. But I don't I just don't buy that. I think we should know Bye. No, I believe that too, but I I wonder what that meeting was like and whether or not they were being truthful to these people or whether it was a thought experience. That's what I think. Yeah, I was like, I won't go into all of it, but I was in a mating What would make him cry? I understand. But I mean like

Yeah I did too. Still cry. But they um uh he he had seen a UFO. You know, he was on a Navy sub, nuclear sub, and um I don't know if he saw that when he was on the sub or not. He's president of the United States. They told him something and supposedly he cried. that was brought up and the guy that they were trying to trip up gave the date of that meeting and he said you can go to the Carter Library and pull up that date and you'll know there's one person they omitted their name.

Who knows who that was? But they list the the meeting and where he was when he got that Wow. So I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if that's true or not.

Nixon pulled up one night to Jackie Gleason's and took a Yeah. Well, you know, Jackie Gleason built that crazy house in upstate New York. Do you know about that? They're not. You don't? It was for sale a while back. Um Jackie Gleason essentially built a UFO house. No kidding. Yeah, it was for sale fairly recently within the last few years. That's the house.

That's a house Jackie Gleason built after supposedly Richard Nixon took him. So supposedly the story was they were golfing, out drinking, and Richard Nixon's like, Hey, you wanna see some shit? And then he took him. to see this UFO uh somewhere on some base. You know, the story is very vague. It's hard to tell what what actually happened, but

Apparently, people that knew Jackie Gleason said it profoundly affected him. And Jackie Gleason became obsessed with UFOs afterwards. And then he had this house built. the shape of a UFO. Which is I mean, not evidence, but Very weird. Yeah. Nixon was a very serious guy. That would have been a that'd have been an interesting uh yeah scenario. Indeed.

But I just wish they'd be like, Show us everything. Yeah, me too. Well we'll see. We'll see what what comes out this week. But uh thank you very much for being here. I really appreciate it. It was great to talk to you. I wish I could get you to move to East Tennessee. Why? Well we saved Texas ass, man. David Crockett. Back in the day. Yeah, he said um he was in Congress and got bait. He was a state legislator and he got he got beat in Congress.

As for let's see his quote was uh it's for me, uh he says for you all you can all go to hell. As for me, I'm going to Texas. He goes to Alamo and gets killed, but he parlayed that into a Disney special, so he kinda evened out. Yeah. Sort of. Sort of. Sort of. I'm very partial to Texas. Oh yeah. All right. We're low tax state. I know. Texas low tax state. I love a lot of things about tech. Yeah.

Yep my buddy Chip Roy, he's leaving. He's from down here. A bunch of these guys in Congress are down here that are leaving. They're going to Tennessee? No, they're coming down here. They're coming. A G down here, but no, they're just they're all coming home. They're tired of Washington. Yeah. That's Latrell told me. I said, Why are you leaving Congress, dude? Want to spend time with my family, my kids are growing up and I was like, can't argue with that, bro.

Yeah, and the pressure of Congress, the pressure of Washington, D.C. is just so odd. I've only been there a couple times, but every time I'm there, when I leave, Yuck! It's like when I used to you know I used to minister to a guy in prison and when you'd leave Pr Brushy Mountain State Prison you'd I I I called it that institutional smell. Whatever they use to clean that place, you just smell like it.

Uh you could smell it in your nose for days later and that's the Washington DC. It's a it's more of a fill. It's a weird place. I guess it's necessary, supposedly. It's odd to visit. But I appreciate people like you. Thank you, brother. I appreciate you. And I appreciate you doing the right thing, especially for our veterans and on disclosure and all the other hot button issues. And you got hecklefisher. I do.

He said my name on his show one time. Yeah. I love that show. It's like Burchette or something. I don't know. Thank you very much. Hej, det är jag från riksbyggen här. Ursäkta att jag avbryter mitt i din egen tid med podd och allt. Jag ville bara säga att vi har massor av bostäder som passar alla olika sätt att leva. Det betyder att du kan få ditt drömboende precis som du vill ha det. Men jag gissar att det du helst vill just nu är att fortsätta lyssna på din podd. Sen kan du gå in.

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