Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! The Joe Rogan experience. What are you doing? What do you mean? Your face. Is I have carposis sarcoma. Oh, I didn't know. Yeah. No, I I just wanted to have a fun look. It's my tenth time. And what is uh a Liechtenstein? Is that what you said? Roy Lichtenstein. Who's that? He's the Do you know who it is? Yeah. You know the pictures. Pull up Drowning Girl. Jamie, pull it up.
This guy. No, he's a pop artist. He drew comic books into paintings in the sixties. You've seen his stuff. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. I have now. I've seen them in memes. Exactly. Like like a man backhanding a woman? No. No? That's not the man? No. No. No. Well he's stepping on her hand right there. That's that's his hand. It's a guy's hand. Oh, it's a guy's hand. Oh Jeff, I love you too, but okay. The dots, I get it. This was a lot of w what I wanted to do, which I couldn't
I wanted to do an uncanny valley look. Hm. And look like a mannequin with like lifeless eyes and and like kinda like Lex, right? But that was a lot of money. Like CGI from ten years ago. Or like Yeah. So I just went with this. Okay. I was on Geor I was on No no no no th this is I I was on Jordan show last January sixth and I had the Q and on Shaman paint my face
Boots and everything and Jordan Peterson had to sit and talk to me for three hours looking like a complete mental patient. And you f you're gonna forget in a couple of minutes, you know, when someone's looking like this. But for anyone tuning in, it's just like and it's just the clips go wide. It go it's a lot. Oh I know. I've done dozens of podcasts with Duncan. Oh yeah, exactly.
Clowns and why are they dressed like astronauts? Yeah. I think the internet's it's it's going in a dark Yeah. Wait, pull isn't it say like the face of evil? There's the one that's Yeah, the Psychology of Pure Evil, Michael Mallens. Uh how is Jordan doing? Is he okay? I think he's doing better. I just talked to Michaela a couple of days ago. Um, I think he's out of the woods. I don't know how much I'm allowed to say.
Uh or what's my place. I don't really know. Um I think you'd have to talk to her. This is really something I don't uh I don't know what I'm supposed to do. Yeah. And it's very what's what bothers me a lot is how much glee people seem to have with this. And and I think uh like I was just saying a second ago, I think the internet's going in a dark place.
The internet's leading them there, but it's people. Well I think it's like a snake eating its own tail, don't you think? I think and and when AI starts validating, you know, your preconceptions, I I'm I I'm very scared about the I'm very scared too because so many people are so easily led and so prone to whatever the ideology is at the moment. Full scale adopting it. I was on Gutfeld a couple months ago and they were talking about how Sam Altman said ChatGPT is going to have erotic.
It's like, Well, what's erotic and they're making jokes? I said not that long ago, um, John Hinckley. shot in nineteen eighty one, he shot President Reagan'cause he thought Jodie Foster was gonna fall in love with him, you know, and thereby turning her away from men forever, right? And I said, What happens when Chat GPT, you really hate Trump, or you really hate Joe Rogan, or you really hate Fauci or Kamala Harris, and your AI friend is ginning you up, being like, Yeah, they're terrible. Do
Like if there's three hundred and fifty million people, you're saying out of those three hundred and fifty aren't gonna try to do something? Right. I know. I know. Yeah, I am and I don't see any breaks on this and it's happening I think faster than we can you know, the whole point of the paleo di not the whole point, but a large part of the paleo lifestyle is, you know, our biology
has not kept up with our technology, right? And that kind of makes sense in a food thing. Bush comes to shove, processed food you should avoid, whole food, natural food is probably better for you. That's a just a good heuristic for anyone. But when you're talking about the mind,
You know, I people argue are human beings basically good, human beings something basically bad. I think human beings are basically animals. And animals can be enormously collaborative and wonderful and work together, even across pieces. You see these videos of like a you know, a dog saving a cow or s whatever it is. But animals are also, I don't need to tell you, you know, there's that chimp in all of
Yeah. And when that mob starts fomenting, like people want blood and and they love it. Yeah. You also get all powerful reinforcement from other people in the group that tell you that you're doing the right thing and they support you and And and if you d the thing with the Epstein stuff online is just really kind of like I remember five minutes ago, right?
Th for the for the the blue-pilled people on COVID. If you don't care about COVID as much as I do, and if you aren't informed as COVID as much as I am, you want to kill grand. Right. Like that you're told this explicitly. Your kids should be taken away from you, should be banned from society. Right. And and my buddy Lu uh Lu Perez, who's a great comic, he had a great tweet, he goes, If you don't have COVID, you can't spread COVID. I can't give it to you just because I'm a bad
Right. But that was the mindset. And now there's so much, there's what three hundred three million Epstein docks? If you are not as invested as some people, you are a kid toucher, you're covering for them, you want this to happen, you're complicit retroactly somehow. Yeah. And I can't make heads or tails of it. I had Luke Rukowski on my show who's
been a conspiracy. I'm not saying the negative way. Conspiracy guy for a very long time. He starked with Alex. He broke it down. Then I had Michael Tracy on my show and he said, Look, a lot of this hysteria. I don't know Who is right, who is wrong, but if I have any kind of skepticism, I am somehow wanting children to be abused. It's it's insane. Well it's also it's like so much of it is crypto.
Like we don't necessarily understand what they were talking about. Right. And if you say Like what's beef jerky? If it's here's the thing, it's obvious. It's not just that it might be kids or probably it's obvious. And if you're denying that jerky's obviously kids
You're denying that people are children. I'm not denying people children. I'm just saying, what if it's heroin? What if it's weapon? I don't I haven't read all those emails, but the idea that it's definitely literally infants, it seems like I want to see some receipts. Yeah, it could be many things. I mean it it certainly is a code which indicates, at least to me, that they were doing something they didn't want people to know about. We're leaving today and entering a world
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World Resort. And I remember it with the Pizzagate stuff. I talked about this in my book from the right. I'd have to get through this through the legal because there was an email where it's like, oh, the the maps or the flags are really angry today. So they're obviously not talking about maps or flags. It was obviously about something. We don't know what. Right. But to pretend that there was nothing there is also disingenuous. There it's clearly code.
But how do we know eating is not code also? Like eating jerky could be like beating off, right? Or it could be killing someone. Right. But the idea that no, the eating part is true, the jerky part is kids. I I I and I frankly what uh bothers me
is don't you want to hope that they're not eating kids? Yeah. Well, uh it's like people just wanna know. And if they already were and have been doing it for a long time Th that seemed outrageous before a gigantic ring was exposed where there really was a sex trafficker who was compromising people. and really was doing it at the behest of at least And intelligence agency whether it's ours or the Israelis or whoever it is. Or the Russians.
And the headline was Epstein was Russian operative. So it was presented on Drudge. Don't take my word for it. Right. As oh, there's the receipts. This is why I'm saying there's there there's Mossad connections with him obviously, especially with Jelaine.
CIA is is a no brainer because why didn't they bag this guy for years? Right. I'm I talked to Kurt Metzger about this and uh broadly speaking, and he breaks the point like these are all interconnected. This idea that we're gonna separate out like the CIA from MI6.
is they're buddies with each other. And then frankly that's in many cases a good thing. You wanna be working with other countries if you have international trafficking or or terrorism or crimes. But i I don't know we don't I I can't even
Right, right. No, that's b well you're honest. That's why. Now the Russian thing, is there anything that makes sense to you to that? What did you write? Okay. New documents show Justice Department documents mention Russia thousands of times, Vladimir Putin over a a thousand times, reflecting extensive Russia related communications and contacts in Epstein's network.
Emails, travel records indicate Epstein made multiple trips to Russia, obtained business visas, had scouts there recruiting young Russian women for him, of course. Similar to his operations elsewhere, the files describe Epstein cultivating ties with Russian political and business elites, acting as a facilitator in deals and introductions, not just sexual encounters.
Epstein repeatedly sought a meeting or back channel communications with President Vladimir Putin at times suggesting he had advice or insight to offer about dealing with Donald Trump. He had documented ties to at least one former Russian official with a background in the FSB, whom he used to gather information on a woman he claimed was trying to extort his business partner.
Well for sure you're gonna have that. You've got a bunch of Russian hookers that you're bringing over there. Some of them are gonna try to explain. The KGB for decades, for like almost a century, was blackmailing America. This is one of the big reasons why you couldn't be uh there were restrictions against gays, because if you were gay at a time when it was socially unacceptable and the Russians found out about it, they flipped it.
'Cause they would sit you down and they'd be like, Look, we know, we're gonna out you or you're gonna play ball. Right. And in those situations you're gonna play ball. This is a huge scandal for a long time. And that's a big there's a lot. There's a large percentage, I don't know what the population
of these undercover gay pol politicians. Oh sh- oh yeah. But I don't mean the politicians, I mean the bureaucrats, like people working for Johnson and and FDR. This was a thing. And they would know. Yeah. And they would they would they would have honey pun. Mm hmm It wouldn't be hard at that time. Right. And for men it's so easy to get us. Like God it must be hard to get women.
How would you blackmail a woman? I mean, well, how do you trick'em into fucking some guy they shouldn't be fucking and why would anybody care? See, no one cares. Like if a woman has an affair on her husband and has sex with some hot guy on an island, everybody's like, You go girl Yeah, if she stella got her groove back. Yeah, Stella got her groove back. How would you how would you yeah, how would if I wanted Okay, let's let's let's walk through this.
If there's a CIA lady and I wanna flip her, how do I fli You'd gotta get her to fall in love with you? No, or you gotta g get her husband to cheat. Or go threaten her kids. You gotta threaten her kids. Threaten the kids. But that's a hard one. But that's a different thing than getting her to do something that she shouldn't have done be out of lust. How do you black yeah, how do you blackmail a woman? Yeah, you don't Don't have a that's probably why a lot of women are in trouble.
What why they are in trouble? Aren't yeah, they aren't. Right. Because like I would imagine you would want them too. There's plenty of women politicians you'd want to compromise. I mean they did get Stacey Plaskett. She was cooperating with Epstein going back and forth during Trump's administration. Did you see also Kristen Cinema that lawsuit? Oh no no. I didn't know. So she was the senator from Arizona. She was a centrist and of course they ran her out of town.
And she uh broke up a marriage base. And in North or South Carolina where she's being sued, you can be s liable for damages if you're like the side piece. Oh, I've seen that. And in the lawsuit it's That's a crazy law. I know. That's a bitch ass law. And you're suing a senator. And the thing and I believe the the filing completely'cause the filing said
he had PTSD, so she was offering to give him psychedelics to to help him heal, which I'm sure she did. Uh and basically they just started a relationship, he left the wife and it's like This is unfortunate, but it happens, but she's facing damages now. That's so wild that that's a law. Yeah. Like w what if the person was on the way out anyway?
Yeah. I'm sure. No, but the case oh no, we were a loving couple, we never had any problems, then Santa shows up and now look at me but how is that not the man's fault? I don't I don't I think it's probably both. Well, I know is no, he's she's suing cinema. She's not suing the guy, I don't think. That's so crazy. Yeah. What a stupid fucking law. What is I don't know, North or South Carolina? Uh, there's some of them old school laws that are so dumb.
How is that a law that people have to be together? Like people change their minds on people all the time. They don't want to be with someone anymore. You meet someone you really like. And you go, I don't I can't imagine living the rest of my life without this person and I've been trapped in this fucking horrible marriage.
I'm out. And then that person gets sued. It sh she had some other funny thing about like No, no, the guy texted her, like I think it was fuck the military, and she writes back only the hot ones. It w so there's like so she got all the text out of his phone. That's funny. It's funny. It's a joke. Right. But I also it's it's like
I think it's v i when the feminists talk about the kind of misogyny here, I think there is a bit of misogyny that you're blaming the woman and you're not blaming the guy. Oh yeah. For that, like the suit, the lawsuit, that's crazy.
That is such a bitch ass lawsuit. North Carolina's one of a handful of states that allow jilted spouses to sue for alienation of affection to seek damages from a third party responsible for the breakup of their marriage. You should only h be able to pay them in tissue. You should pay them in l just crates and crates of tissues. Oh, you get five hundred thousand dollars worth of tissues. It's I I just bring up fucking semis filled with tissues.
It's so um salacious and stupid. We shouldn't need to know this. Well, even if we do know it, the law itself is fucking preposterous. Alienation of affection. Well uh how people decide they don't like people all the time. That's why divorce exists.
Yes. And one of the reasons divorce exists is people find someone they like more and they go, Oh, I fucked up. I have to get out of this marriage. I'm in love with this other person. And you don't always have to get divorced. There's plenty of marriages that survive shit. Yeah, that's true too. So I what's the counter that fuck you, you're a bitch? But the lawsuit thing is Curly you can get money for that? What's the money? How much?
Do you know what the damages are, Jamie? Can you Well you go high just to settle? Yeah, but I the fact that the there's no sea I don't know what the ceiling is. I'm not an at North Carolina attorney, but it's not cheap. It's like I think the hoe the side piece is not a hoe. She's basically paying the wife alimony. Oh my god. It's real money? Yeah. It's no joke, does it say? Who would fucking seventy five thousand dollars in damages? That's it?
Well if it's seventy five grand, she would have paid it to shut her up. Maybe she just doesn't want to out of print? It's gotta be more than seventy-five grand. There's no way uh you're a senator, you're just gonna Maybe. Maybe because most people have the reaction that we're having. Like no one's outraged. No one's angry. Oh that's it. That's it. Nicknamed the Home Wrecker Law and is seeking seventy five thousand dollars in damages per her lawyers. She argued that a complaint
Uh in a complaint that Cinema engaged in numerous unlawful acts with her ex husband including, but not limited to having conversations with him. That's unlawful. Meeting him under emotionally and physically romantic and sexual circumstances. Having sexual encounters with him and encouraging him to leave his wife.
They went to Coppola. I think it was it was like Day Day. Yeah. Well, is that a physically romantic and sexual encounter? Is that what that is? Well, I think it's romantic to take a put that back up, please. I mean the lawsuit alleges that in the fall of twenty twenty three when cinema's then head of security resigned, the head disclosed to Matthew A. ML concerns that Cinema was having sexual relationships. What a bitch ass security guard. Uh sexual relations with other security members.
The security head urged Matthew Amyle to leave, but Amy refused deciding the jobs financial. She's fucking her security guards. Yeah, more power too. She's a wild bitch. While on the job, Matthew Ammel had at one point informed his ex wife, according to her complaint, that should he and Cinema be together on a work trip to Napa Valley, California, it would have appeared as if they were on a romantic getaway. Huh?
Uh twenty twenty four, Heather Amel discovered that Cinema frequently messaged her ex husband on signal, which included a picture of the former senator wrapped in a towel and a suggestion that he bring MDMA. Yeah, let's go, Kristen. the drug commonly known as Molly or Ecstasy to a rope work trip so that cinema could guide him through a psychedelic experience. Wink wink.
In March of twenty twenty four, Matthew Emil and Ford informed his then ex his then wife that while he was serving as cinema security at an event the former Senator was having getting handsy. And that she held his hand and touched him. According to the complaint, Matthew Amel expressed that he didn't know how to get out of the situation without offending cinema.
She was also the first bisexual member of the Senate ever. What a good kid. So you know she's a freak. What a good kid. Molly, towels, pictures. She's got she's got my vote. I'm vote I'm vote for again, she should run for president. She should run for cinema for president. Let's go, cinema. Come on, she's a centrist. That's what America needs. You want a women president? Yeah. Let's go. Let's get a freak in the office. Uh we have a freak in the office. But expressed that he wanted a divorce.
Oh, he struggled to admit to the affair, but expressed that he wanted a divorce. After a November work trip, Heather and Matthew Amy separated. Her complaint alleges that her ex husband and cinema remained romantically involved. Cinema and Matthew Amel both appeared at a forum in October. Um are they still together? I don't know. Those don't last. It's only six days. Chicks get bored once they win. Once they win and they get ya, and like, eh, who's next? Who the hell knows what's attached to?
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War monongers and pussy hounds. I prefer the pussy hounds. Don't leave your wife alone with them. Wait, but I prefer them because at least they're just trying to get sex. They're not trying to blow up the world and conquer and like they want to be Genghis Khan. Is it well actually Genghis Khan? Is it your position that Lindsey Graham is not a pussy hound? It is my position that Lindsey Graham is uh allergic to pussy.
Yeah. Wait, are they But then they asked him if you know he was gonna run for president, you know, but he's single. Yeah, but he's single. Yeah. And uh, you know, what about a first lady? He's like maybe I'll have a bunch of first ladies. Oh my did he say that? I remember but say who's into women. Barbara McCulski, uh who was this senator for Maryland for many years, who was like four eleven hobbit creature.
Clearly gay, more no disrespect to her. She was asked about it and she turns to the guy next to her is like, hey good look it. It was something like that. It was so cringe and awkward. Yeah. So what did Lindsay Graham say about uh having many first ladies? Oh my god. Oh, okay. He would have a road.
'Cause like what Dolly Madison did that. Like there was one of the first early founding fathers was a widower. So the daughter his sister first and then rotating first lady. What year was this when he was running? Twenty fifteen. Yeah. Do you remember the thing I remember about his campaign Is Trump had a rally and he gave out Lindsey Graham's phone number.
Right. He did? Oh, you don't remember this? So Tru this is the best part. No, no, this this is so insane. So Trump is like'cause Lindsay would call him for campaign donations and and Trump's like, If you guys don't agree, let's give him a call. He altered up the pay goes, uh three, four, five, blah, blah, blah. And Lindsay Yeah. Look at face.
What what is this world we're living in? No, no, no, but hold on, it gets even better. So Lindsay, like how do I reclaim the narrative? Lindsay filmed a video of him taking his phone and breaking with the hammer, and I'm like But you still have the same number. You just broke your own phone. You're not trolling Trump at all. It's like If I You just broke a device you could have gone to Verizon and had your number switched, you fucking moron.
But does no one realize this doesn't make any sense? It was so crazy. Everyone's so performative. Is there someone who's a warmonger? Well well Putin's a pussyhound. Is he though? Did you not see more of a warmonger? But he's both. Did you not see more of the topless girls? Oh really? There he was Here he goes. He's throwing it in the blender. Oh my gosh. He's hitting it with a hammer, a golf ball. Oh, lightning on fire. Oh, let me see. That's win.
See that badge? You put Red Bull in with the phone? What's that about? I think it's gas lighter fluid, no? You didn't even get the Oh it is Red Bull. Why is it Red Bull? He hit it with a golf swing, lit it on fire. Like this is so cringe. But it doesn't make any sense. Bagel oven. Is that pizza bagels? Oh my god, what's wrong with this dude? But your number's the same. What a silly bitch. That's back in the old flip phone days too. Yeah, twenty fifteen.
Wow. He was still rocking a flip phone back then, no iPhone. People are rocking them now again'cause the state of uh Surveillance things. My friend Dave has one. Does a flip phone help you? I think so. How so? I don't know. I'd have to ask Dave. But I think the c oh'cause the peop no, I think you're spending less time on the internet. That's
Yeah. But you could also just spend less time on the internet. Yes, that that is also an option. I think that's a healthy option. I think you could do it. Do you know what I th here I want to hear your thoughts on this? So during COVID there was a huge Uh amount of time that everyone's spending online. Everyone's obsessed on their covet. We're all f everyone's constantly agitated. And my concern is
That these social media Mike Mark Zuckerberg's job is to keep you on Facebook as much as possible. Right. All that data that they had during COVID is still there. Right. And I think all these social media companies are still keeping up. In a constant state of agitation, so you're stuck watching these screens and it's really doing harm. And it's not getting better.
That's a fact. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's a fact but I don't isn't he testifying they're they're testifying soon uh about whether or not they set up their algorithms to harm children. They set up their alg algorithms to addict children to uh their social media platforms. Elsa Gate, yeah. Yeah, that was the whole thing.
Yeah. Explain that to people. Well Elsa Gate was this I I still don't think we have an answer. People made these uh they don't even know where it came from overseas. There are these bizarre YouTube videos with millions of views where it'll be like the Hulk, but he's like sniffing kids' feet.
And Elsa's just doing like putting in a cage, like bizarre things that is kinda sexual, but not really. And you don't know what the purpose is, but because they were like gaming the algorithm, you know, YouTube this Trump got in trouble with this. When Trump was sharing that video, the very end of it went to a Lion King video making fun of the Democrats. There's that one second of the Obamas as
Apes from the beginning. Right. They cut there and looked like he was sharing that. It was just the next video that was queued up and it looks like Trump's generator video of the Obamas as apes on purpose. Well, they were all in it and they're all video. But I think But it was like Hillary was a warthog, Obama or Biden was also an ape and he was eating a banana. Fritzker was the Lion King. Right. And and Trump came out as a lion.
Right, but the point is I think what he posted he posted only the first second. I don't think he posted it. Yes he did. Well the point I mean it's from his account. But someone reposted it. Right. Right. That's what it was. No, he reposted somebody else. I think so his is is interrupted. Right. But the point is it s anyway with ElsaGate, kids start watching one video and the algorithm just snags them. Yeah and one hour later they're watching completely deranged
Stuff. The Elsa Gate thing was weird too'cause a lot of it was like old cartoons. And uh uh what people were saying is that if your child like say if you give your child an an iPad and it goes from one YouTube video to the next and then sh suggests, those got lumped in there and you would click on it and it was all sudden like
Someone would get a bottle broken over their head, there'd be blood everywhere. It was really weird. Right, and it's and it's like a Mickey Mouse cartoon. And there was no utility to this. Are those still available?
continued but it switched from like the it's whatever's popular at the time for kids. So back then it was frozen or whatever and now it's like mind crazy. What are they doing though? Like why why is this Like what why would they have these cartoon characters get hit over the head with bottles and
Cause you remember that one? Like a lot of'em would they would get drunk and fall and break their head on a fucking countertop or something? Or they'd be cover th I think this was another one they were covered in dots for no reason. Unlike I I'm having kids. Really? It was just like what is going on? Or they're eating weird stuff. So does YouTube remove those videos? Because there's plenty of violent videos on YouTube. Like is it because they're or do do they put like an age restriction on them?
I don't think they did because what's the age restriction? There's nothing sexual, there's nothing Well violence. But some of them were just weird. Yeah. Some of them were just weird. Like lots of shots of feet. Uh-huh. And there was all there was w a lot of ones where kids got left alone with creep. Cartoons. Very strange. There was also live action stuff. Oh really? Yes.
And it's just like who are these people filming this? And for what I saw another one there was this channel which has millions of views for each video and it's things like turtles vomiting up fish. Like dead fish, like live action or or dead fish coming from the ground as if it's it's I I don't understand what the point of this is.
Do you remember um during Benghazi they tried to blame the attack on this video? Oh my god. You remember that? Of course. That was the the propaganda was that there was some video that no one had seen. Right. Like some terrible video. Some really all riled up, right? Yeah, that got the Muslims riled up and that's why they attacked. And there was also well, she was also blaming the twenty sixteen election on ads on the dark web.
How many people on the dark web? Do you even know what it is? Like what are you talking about? Flip the election. That's hilarious. That's insane. fifty incels. Right. In a chat room. Like but that's uh that was the she says this all the time, Hillary. Yeah to this day. Well she just says it.
You know? Like she doesn't have to be credible anymore. It's like we just assume we just know that that kind of communic like if you're having a one on one conversation with her just privately and she started talking like that, you'd be like what are you talking about? So does it make any sense? Did you really believe that? She got clowned in Europe this week? I did, with the Czechoslovakian guy. Yeah. Yeah.
It was funny. It was very funny. But d the way she was interrupting too. You w you want women to have their rights taken away, like what? That's not what he's saying. He's literally talking about all this crazy shit, these gender transitions and People were really like uh they'd had enough with the immigration. People had had enough. You don't you're pretending that's not real? Like this way forward.
want to have a way forward where they connect with people, you gotta admit that there was some reason why people were responding the way they did to a fucking open border. to men playing in women's sports, to all this shit, ch g gender transitions of children. Like people were freaked out and not just fucking Republicans.
A lot of people. Yeah, Karen's a swing voter. Karen doesn't like this kind of stuff. Yeah. Uh I don't know if you saw did you see Nancy Pelosi's retirement video? No. Well you laugh, but you sh Nancy Pelosi's probably the smartest politician in Washington in terms of being crafty. Like she knows how to fucking get a bill.
She knows how to make me walk the plank. So she's retiring from Congress this year. She had this 10-minute long video about, you know, saying goodbye to San Francisco. 10 minutes. Wh she talks about AIDS at length, right? Uh'cause obviously it affected San Francisco. Doesn't mention the word gay once, even in the context of AIDS, doesn't mention LGBT, doesn't mention black people, people of color. She mentions how much she loves going to church. Saint Thomas of Assisi and Veterans.
So I'm like, she knows what you're saying. Yeah. You gotta pivot and start talking to people about pocketbook stuff. But then Gavin Newsom recently doubled undid his you know, he backtracked with Charlie Kirk when he's just like, Yeah, I know about uh men and women's sports, and now he's doubling down on trans. Which is Is he really? Oh yeah, he just started doubling down. God, how does he think that that's gonna work now? I think he thinks he's gotta get through that primary.
Right, but do you does he not know that people are done? No.'Cause I'm sure he has better polling than you or I. And I'm sure Maybe I'm just naive about California. Well it's not California, it's it's the Democratic base who's gonna vote for him. You know he's also killed his mom. What? Yeah, he's he did assist to suicide on his mom. He bragged about it to the Washington Post.
You didn't know this? No. What was wrong with his mom though? I I'm sure it was something awful, but when I have when I've a hear a politician talking about something that personal that publicly, I I'm not gonna look at it through a positive vein. And this made stuff is in fourteen states now. Did you know this? Yeah.
Well in Canada it's off the hook. You know, Kelsey Sharon, I've been talking to her about this. She completely blew my mind. So first it used to be'cause it's always uh um oh yeah, fifty five. Long battle with breast cancer, deeply personal event he has described as a complex experience involving assisted suicide. The Washington Report uh Washington Post report and his memoir expressed deep grief and remorse regarding her death. Remorse is a very dark word in this country.
He was thirty four and uh San Francisco supervisor at the time. Yeah, but maybe it was his mom's decision and he helped. Sure, but look if you're dying of terminal cancer and your body's rotting out, I feel like just like you put a dog down.
Like there there's times where I think assisted suicide is probably a good option if there's no hope and you're just gonna be in agony for months. And there's times where people have gender dysphoria and it's a good thing. Right, but it's different. It's not my point is
y people like Blair White, Brianna Wu, you know, they have gender dysphoria. It's perfectly appropriate to call them a she. They they you know, it's otherwise very uh disturbing. Five minutes later, once it becomes a political issue It's anyone who just puts on a dress. Right. So the point that's that Kelsey's been going on with Canada is
Now they're going after people who are depressed. Right. They're going after people who are disabled. They're going after kids. And the darkest thing that's happening over there, which they're importing here, is the old people are extremely expensive for the system. Right. If you have socialized health care, I don't know what the number is, the huge number. Towards the end of your life, you're racking up those bills. So there's a huge incentive for that government to get you off of their ledger.
So now they're having this movement where let's all get together and have grand we're all gonna go kill grandma. Five minutes ago if you don't if you don't wear the COVID mask, you wanna kill grandma, you're a bad person. Now if you don't wanna kill grandma, you're a bad You don't want to end this way, you were such a strong person, die with dignity, blah, blah, blah. It's not always terminal stuff. And in Europe they're having it with teenagers who are depressed.
It's and you know perfectly well everyone listening to this knows it's not a slippery slope, it's an elevator shaft. Is this this is the back door. Is that financial incentive? It's a huge financial incentive. Think about it. If you're old and you're a thousand dollars a day and the government's paying you If I get rid of you, look how much I'm saving. Right. And And you're oh, you don't want to be a burden to your family? Why w you don't wanna have them sitting by your bedside? Come on.
It's happening here. New York just passed it. It's fourteen states. It's being and New York passed. New York just passed it. You see Mandami is like he's trying to figure out a way to use his budget. His budget is higher than the entire budget of the state of Florida, which has three times more people. No, it's not. Is it yes it is? Yeah. No budget for yeah, yeah, yeah. Look it up. That c ABC Wednesdays, the Emmy winning comedy.
Sad sack. That's what I'm talking about. I want both of our sacks to be fun. You two idiots are perfect for each other. out of the premium warmer. Nachos! Feels like there's more applause for the nachos than my speech. The budget for New York City is larger than the budget for the state of Florida. Holy I did not know this. Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is true. Uh we should look it up. But uh I was reading an article about it today, unless the article's completely full of shit.
They were saying that it's several billion dollars more for New York City than it is for the entire state of Florida, which has roughly three times as many people living in it. Um I w I just I go back, you know, once a month to do Gutfeld and I can't believe I'm saying this as a former New Yorker, but I like LA better. Whoa. It it hurts me physically to see. What's wrong with New York? There's no eye popping them out insider called insanity.
is up around eleven billion from the current year. Nine percent up. A record one hundred and twenty seven billion dollar budget proposal on Tuesday. The socialist leader, city leader's plan includes a whopping nine point five percent proposed property tax hike. Nine point five hike on New Yorkers, which he claims to be a last resort while allocating another one point two billion dollars for migrants. Migrants. What's the Florida budget? Scroll down a little bit. Okay. Uh wow.
Oh my god, it's the same. It's about the same. Yeah, but it's comparable. Holy sh crap. So it's not three times more or whatever the fuck it is, more? No, three times more people, right? Right. So that is triple per capita. Yeah, triple per capita. So The budget of Florida Florida House is one hundred and thirteen point six billion to one hundred and fifteen billion and the New York proposal is
So New York City is their budget is more than the entire state of California with three Florida. Excuse me, state of Florida with three million more people or three times. Oh, that's a good talk. Sure. But it's co but the point is it's still eleven billion from the current year. It's a pr it's still a proposal though. He hasn't passed it. Well he's not yeah, I mean he's a fucking.
But zero. I I don't think you can have zero'cause if they're gonna be there, they're gonna be you have to feed them, you have to take y you have to do something with them. Like literally, if if you don't feed them, they're going to be robbing stores. They have to g human beings need food. What are you going to do? Get them jobs.
How are you gonna get a migrant a job? Uh get him a job in Guatemala. Wouldn't you rather give'em food than a job? I don't want them taking American uh citizens' jobs. Well the whole thing's a mess. The whole thing's a mess, but the point is you can't just throw'em away. Right. That's the problem. Unless you're gonna remove'em from the country.
Right. Unless you're moving you if you even if you want to put'em in jail, that's not cheap. Right. That costs a lot of money. Right. So if what are you gonna do? I I remember um Piers Morgan had this amazing interview with my favorite British politician Diane Abbott, who is really special needs, clearly. And in the UK you have the gov the the government which is members of parliament from the
uh uh mate majority party and then you have the minority party which has a shadow cabinet. So if there's a secretary of state, the democ Rubio of the Democrats would have a Democrat equivalent who would deal with those issues. And she was their shadow home secretary, which deals with immigration. And he goes, Diane
If the Labour government wins the next election and you have illegal immigrants here, what do you do with them? Do they get to stay? Do you have aministy or gonna deport them? And he goes she goes, Piers The K Tory uh system is not fit for purpose. It's terrible. We'll be more efficient and more fair. And it goes, Right, gotcha.
There's an illegal immigrant. Do they get to stay or are they deported? I've explained this to you and it she's just ta it was just this amazing thing. Circular. Yeah. I love her. Um How much money do they give to poor New Yorkers? Oh, it's not it's gonna be a lot. But is it the same amount? Okay. So seven point five four billion to fill cliffs across six major unbudgeted needs. Is that true? Well, the property taxes are high.
But I I understand they haven't raised it, but they shouldn't raise it. Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Because it it goes with as the property rent values go up, exactly the percent's gonna go up, the revenue is gonna go up as well. Exactly. There's no reason to raise the like this idea that they haven't done it, so they should do it.
Crazy. Oh, look at that. So if your condo is hundred and twenty grand, which is no condo is gonna be that cheap, uh you're paying like fifteen percent every year in property tax. Yeah. That's not nothing. That's not nothing. I think the idea is that rich people are just gonna pay it and this is what they're trying to push. Meanwhile, people are are going to flee. Just like they've done in other countries when they've done these sort of wealth tests. A month. So, $1200 a month, yeah.
A condo assessed at$120,000 would go from paying$14,000 to$16,000. But that's a condo that's assessed. Good luck finding a condo assessed at$120,000 in New York City. Well for that particular condominium unit. Thirteen hundred percent. Right. That's twelve percent on a hundred and twenty thousand. Now do a fifty five million dollar condo.
The really r the really wealthy people are responsible for a large percentage of the tax income in New York City. I think it's the upper one percent. See if what I think the upper one percent of New York City are responsible for fifty percent of the tax revenue. It's something crazy like that. So the thing about that actual number is those are the people that are gonna leave. And it winds up being an extra
excessive amount of money. And then they're planning on taxing people if they leave. This is like what they proposed in California. They've also proposed this, I think, in the Netherlands to try to stop people from leaving. Well, you have to still have to pay taxes. They're all just trying to steal money.
Top one percent of New York City income, yeah. Earners paid forty eight percent of the city's personal income tax liability in twenty twenty one. The most recent year with detailed data. Why is the most recent year five years from o ago? Um the P I T share equates to roughly eleven percent of New York City's total tax revenue. P IT accounts for twenty three percent of overall city tax collections.
So it's a lot of money. Forty eight percent of the city's personal income tax liability is an enormous amount of money. So property tax is forty five percent, that's where they get all their money from, which you can understand because you can't take the upright state building somewhere else. Right. But if you're jacking all that up.
Top one percent paid forty percent of PIT shares may have declined post twenty twenty one due to lower capital gains. But he did do something I liked. So him and Kathy Hokel had this thing where now where they're trying to streamline. Because they're understanding if if rents are high, demand uh increasing supply is gonna lower costs. So if they do that, I think that's a great thing, obviously, which I never saw.
Right. Then is that's definitely good, but there's still people are just they don't like that kind of leadership. It's spooky. I I'm much more concerned about he has someone on his in his cabinet or proposed to be in his cabinet who's concerned with decarceration. And the principl the principle is we got too many people in jail. Now, maybe that might be true broadly speaking, but when you apply that en masse and on a case by case basis, who are you gonna be letting out?
Because I don't think this this claim people used to have that like, oh, all these people are in jail'cause of weed. They're not. And certainly not in New York City. When I was on a grand jury and these weed cases came along, people wouldn't even indict them. They're just like we're we're not taking part. is a BS. And now it's legal. So for you to get to look at what's the guy who uh uh was under Jordan Neely? Was that his name? Would he have 40 arrests?
The one who punched that girl in the face, the old lady in the face and tried to kidnap a girl. Yes. So for you to be in jail in New York, it's not nothing. Right. Yeah. And why? Why would they want to do this? Because their principle is the system or society, whatever you want to call it, whatever you term for it is, is c making people who are marginalized desperate.
So they act out. So instead of putting them in jail which helps no one is the argument. We should be working with them systemically to kind of normalize and make productive citizens out of them. And what's their plan for that?
Yeah you have welfare programs, uh different training programs, just throw money at And here's the thing, I can understand that argument maybe if someone's stealing bread to feed their family, I've never understood how I'm really poor so I'm going to hold a woman down and do bad things.
Right. That's not a thing. Or just randomly punch people in the streets or throw people in front of trains. That's right. It's like that's not a it's not because you're late to do your job interview that you shove somebody in front of the the six train. Right. Yeah. It's dark, man. It's very dark. But I th I LA is not as dark. From what I've I think in LA there is this still this sense of hope. Really?'Cause be people I talk to in LA, everyone I know knows someone who's been broken into.
Like the home invasions. They're up in a huge way. I'm just comparing two different kinds of cancer. And I'm saying the cancer in LA is better than the cancer in New York? Yes. Oh because I remember growing up and not that long ago With New York there'd be this you could find some new neighborhood and there'd be some, you know, cool ice cream store, some sock store, whatever a button store, cool fun little sp spots, and it'd be a fun adventure just walk around and
Walking different places. And that's gone. Is it? Yeah. You can't open up some weird little store in New York anymore. The rent's through the roof. Like it it's the crime is through the roof. It's miserable. LA has these little pockets, which I enjoy seeing. So what's the solution for New York after this guy's out? Do you think that it ever turns around or do you think it keeps going in the same general direction? And do you think the powers that be want it to go in this general direction?
So John Lindsay was mayor in the late sixties during like the Summer of Love stuff. Uh you had sexual assaults through the roof. You remember New York was going bankrupt under a beam when Gerald Ford was president and Ford the headline the the I think the the New York Post was Ford to New York City drop dead and that c you know, you know, cost him some votes and possibly the the presidency. But New York
has these I don't know what the cycle for Giuliani to win you had to have a Dinkins. You know for Obama to come in you have to have a Bush. So at some but the here's the other problem. There's two issues. One is a lot of people who could left. There didn't used to be a plan B for New York'cause New York was its own thing. Now it's Florida. Now it's Florida or Austin. Yeah. And New York isn't New York.
Anymore. Because Fran Lieberwitz, my my second favorite public speaker, she had this point. She goes, Look, there's a lot of things you could say about a city that's full of rich people. You could say it's good, you could say rich people are bad. You can't say it's incredible. And unless there's a space for young people of nothing to lose who are going to bring culture and innovation artists. Artists. Of broadly speaking, not just little painters, but artists.
It was Williamsburg, it was the Bowery before that, you know, there were little pockets of magic. And I I Red Hook. I remember there was a bar called Lily's and All of Redwick was deserted and there's just one light open and I came to this bar and there were just amazing singers. And it was like a mystical experience. And there'd be street art.
But that's you can't do that now. A friend of mine's girlfriend used to work in this place called Den of Thieves. Oh, okay. Yeah. And you you g there's no sign. Right. You go in there, it's this d dingy little hole in the wall. Or milk and honey is another thing. It's so cool. But you can't do that.
No. So and I don't think under this guy there's gonna be that uh return. So appealing to this base of disenfranchised young people that have been told that the reason why they have all these problems is rich people are greedy. And they've ruined everything and we should tax the rich and we'll feed the poor. I think he is speaking to a lot of pe so people on the right think everyone on the left is like a big monolith. They're not. And I think there's a lot of lefties, especially young lefties.
Who don't think the Democratic Party is an effective mechanism toward resolving their issues and concerns. and he's not he's on b just like Trump wasn't really a Republican, he's a Republican on paper. We had no allegiance to the Republican Party. He took them all out one at a time. This guy's a democratic socialist. He has no Uh i in 1934 when Upton Sinclair ran for governor of California, after years of running as a socialist, he goes, people vote for the party of their grandparents.
So he's a Democrat on paper. He's a leftist obviously, but he's a Democrat on paper. Cuomo was the establishment hack. And he's like, look, it was like Obama no eight. Do you want to go with this old party hack or this young guy who's got a different vision?
And he definitely does have a different vision. This isn't how, you know, Hillary would govern New York City or or or uh or even Eric Adams or or some of these others. Well I think one of the big reasons he won was that debate where he said that he wouldn't go to Israel. I think that was an enormous difference.
I would say that's a ten, fifteen percent shit. Ten fifteen? Huge. We have the polling. Absolutely huge. I think I think the polling's horseshit because it's only people so fucking stupid they answer polls. Like who are those people? I think there's I think there was a giant cultural shift where people are like, right, shouldn't we be paying attention to New York? Why are all these people saying they want to go to Israel? Why are they saying that? Who's paying them?
Why are they saying that? That's an odd thing to say. Sure. No one's saying the first thing I'm gonna do is visit Belgium. They're not saying that. Sure, but there's also a huge Jewish population in New York City. Right. So when Cuomo tapped into that, I don't know I don't think it's a good thing. Right, but then as an anti-Zion. The percentage of people that are Jewish in New York City is
small in comparison to the people that think that New York City should be the main focus of attention. Sure. Sure. And I think when you have all these politicians that are doing things that don't make sense to most people, like saying the first thing I'm gonna do is visit Israel. What are you talking about? This city's a mess. And then this guy comes along and says I can serve the Jewish people of New York City better in New York City.
Uh percentage of Jewish vote. My point is I don't think that that number happened'cause of the debate. I think that was part of his appeal from the beginning. Well I think for fence sitters though, that debate was big. Because you got to see one guy who's like this is a solution to this system that we have been just replacing the heads of the people that are in charge but it's the same exact mechanism. No, that's that's what I was saying earlier, that he's not a member of the Democratic Party.
Cuomo is this old party hack and he's like, Look, let's throw all that stuff in the garbage. This is something innovative and new. This was the argument Obama made in 08, and he's not wrong. Right. Like he would he when he had his inaugural speech and he said we're gonna get rid of the cold whatever uh uh grasp of capitalism and be embraced by the warmth of collectivism, no democrat is saying things like that.
This is something completely new and completely innovative. So how it's gonna look in practi here's the other thing though. The mayor in New York has a a ceiling to what he can do. So I would not if I'm he's thirty four, I think. Yeah. He's young. I don't if I'm sat in that office and I'm up against the New York City real estate um uh uh industry, it's not gonna be an easy fight.
Right. Trump had to learn this the first term. It's like just'cause you're president doesn't mean people are gonna bend the knee. Right. And play ball. So who knows what this is gonna look like. And it's not just New York City. Seattle's doing the same thing. What are they doing? Seattle they elected a full-on congressional who lived with their parents.
And hasn't had a job, lives off her fucking parents. Well, this is also a big concern with the Democrats in general. But both parties. When you have the base and the establishment, we're basically just gangsters who are uh doing money laundering and you have the kids who are like We've been screwed over hearing this shit for bullsh for y for decades. Let's have an alternative. What do you do when you're Nancy Pelosi and you're Chuck Schumer and you're to a lesser extent Hacking Jeffries?
And these people are coming up, the kids wanting democratic socialism. I don't mean kids, I mean young people who are i idealistic and are like, Your we tried your way, it didn't give us shit, it gave us Trump. What do you tell them? Yeah, what do you tell'em? You give us no answer. You would like vote for Stenny Hoyer for another ten years? Like like it's ridiculous.
Amy Klobuchar is not going to be your candidate if you have this democratic socialist vision. She will not deliver that for you and she'll tell you that's her fate. Oh. So I think that the um so I think that's the dance Newsome is trying to do. And I don't see who I I d I think he'd be the perfect VP,'cause he's a great attack dog. He doesn't have to worry about defending his records. I've heard that too, but he was uh um Jerry Brown's number two. He he bid his time.
Yeah, but he was Jerry Brown's number two when he was young and he had never been the governor. Sure. I'm just saying like he would be the perfect VP for the Democrats. I don't think he wants that. I think he wants to be the king. I think he wants to ruin San Francisco, ruin California, and then go on to be the come the president. You don't think he'd have a good shot? Of being the president? Yeah. I think he does. He does, he has a great show.
Yeah. I think people are that dumb. I don't think it's that dumb. I think you could they're that dumb that they're willing to vote party line no matter what, and a guy who's just a good speaker. who's a good bullshit artist that he could be able to sweet talk his way into that position and just fudge data, lie about stuff. Nick Shirley is in California right now doing the same thing that he was doing in Minneapolis. Yeah, and they've already uncovered fucking billions of dollars of fraud.
Making videos about it. Oh same kind of fraud, Medicaid fraud through the roof, all kinds of crazy shit. Yeah. But I mean I don't know how much that Minnesota s Minnesota stuff permeated I mean it took down Tim Waltz, which is a one of the biggest scalps, like no one saw that coming. Right. But the same thing you take out Tim Wallace, here's Clobichar's governor, it's a hydra. You're not you're you're not frankly
Sh you'd rather have him, he's more defeatable than her. Does it depend upon how much it fraud gets exposed and who gets connected to that fraud and what the investigation unveils? I you're gonna have people who listen to NPR tell you with a straight face that this fraud happens under any s they'll they'll have a little a list, a list of excuses. It's I it's been investigated and resolved. This hap what, there's no fraud in Florida and Texas?
Or what are you saying? Or why are you targeting the Somalis? Right. So you're not gonna get and at the end of the day, I think people expect government to have fraud. And if it's in Minnesota you're not really gonna if I'm a Democrat in Minnesota, I'm voting Democrat.
And if I'm Republican it's not how many votes is this gonna sway? Well they've done an amazing job in Minnesota of distracting people from the Somali fraud by organizing protests against ICE. Right. And that's uh people need to understand, like yes, people are upset about ice. Fact. Un unquestionably. Just regular people at home that aren't protesting. But that protest is not just organized, it's funded.
It's heavily funded, organized. They had signal chats with Democratic congressmen or Democratic politicians rather that were involved in this. There is they knew what they were doing and they did it because they wanted to distract from the fact that this fraud was being explained. Well I think they would do it regardless, but yes it certainly serves that purpose. They narrative. Nobody's talking about the fraud anymore. Everybody's talking about ice being murderers. Right.
Yeah. So it worked. That's what I'm saying. If there's more fraud exposed, I don't know that it's gonna work against Newsome. Well it depends on how the trials lay out. So if people wind up going to trial over this and people wind up getting indicted over this, that could get more interesting. Because then you remove it from Minnesota and then it becomes this federal court thing. And so then it becomes mainstream public news if they do this correctly.
But if there is something there. But the thing is you have to worry about if the judge is going to be complicit and if the prosecutor's going to be complicit, like and the media is also. You gotta Kind of hit fly that arrow through three s hoops. You gotta go through the bushes and make a you got a small hole to see through. Yeah.
And then to try to make it indic a and then it'd be very easy for Newsom to be like, I'm so glad this got exposed. Right. I promise you, as president, this won't happen in America. And if you want to talk corruption, look at Trump and all his sweetheart deals, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Hillary's array throwing men on the bus about Epstein. They don't have shame.
What I'm saying? Hilly's like Trump's in the uh files thousands of times. Like, let's have this conversation. She started already. Right, right. What does that mean though, when you're in the file thousands of times? Because he is the guy that was in contact with the FBI about F. He he did contact the FBI after Epstein was arrested and thanked them
for arresting him and getting him because that guy was a real problem. Right. But he did kick him out of Mar-a-Lago in two thousand and five. But she's being factual but not truthful. So it is factual that his name is in the files as the times. And then you leave it for the person listening to make that conclusion. Right, that's all you have to say. That's all you have to say. We were talking to Don L. Rawlings yesterday, he's in the files.
Who okay? Because Epstein went to visit his show, went to watch his show at w improv in West Palm Beach. I I I did a search for the word retarded. And I I the one the one email I found was someone like can you mail me that
Photo where I look fat and retarded. That's it? And it's it's not clear from who. It's too abstinent. It's redacted. Yeah. No one wants to know that they were admitted they look fat and retarded. Or the the N-words in there are a fair amount also. Well there's a lot of references to pizza. You know, there's w I think there's thousands of references to pizza and jerky. The jerky with the pizza and grape soda. Yeah.
So I thought the thing about grape soda is grape is like what people do to get around the algorithm when they're discussing rape. When they don't he graped them twenty eleven. I don't think people knew about that. Right. And I don't think Epstein is a boomer knows how to get around alcohol. Right. That's not an algorithm thing. Right. It's just a code thing. So I thought maybe it's a black thing.
But then Grape Soda? Oh right. Yeah, but then he's racist. There's like things about don't bring black people. Oh really? Oh yeah. He says don't bring black people to black. Something to that effect. Please double check me on this, but it was something that he was not no black Oh, no black girls. Interesting. Huh. I don't think we're ever here I I the other thing that I'm kinda stunned at is there's this belief online that if there's enough agitation like
QAnon, we're gonna have these mass arrests. And I don't see that happening. And I don't think you can do anything to force them to release the really bad stuff. So what else is left? There's three tho three million other files that they have on they've released everything. Well they also said there wasn't anything. Right. You know when Cash Patel was on here, it's like there's no videos, there's no evidence, there's no nothing. The craziest for me was when Pam Bondi said, I've got the list.
And I said to myself and I I talked to my friends and they all agreed with me. I'm like, I really don't think he had like clients list dot doc on his desktop. That's not a thing, right? So I would I d I believe he does like have a literal list. And later she goes,
When I said list, I meant blah blah blah. And I'm like, but you said list. Right. Well they had those binders. They were all s performatively holding those binders. We have the files. We're gonna go through them, heads are gonna roll, nothing happened. Right. And then Les Wexner, what did he say today? Jamie, you were saying that he said he got He's gone for so many years. I've been seeing online, I don't know the accuracy, that there's a bunch of missing files from specifically 1999.
one. Right. And that people are connecting that to nine eleven. Yeah. Oh. Wait. Yeah. Pre and post nine eleven are all missing. Wait, so Epstein might be involved with nine eleven? But I I mean what's the thumb tax and string I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm just a lot of people that believe that Israel was involved in Iraq. Right. But I don't think Epstein was high up in the Israeli decision making.
I think they're just looking for financial records of things and those are all missing. Um people's names I know interesting things pop up. If I found out Muhammad Atta was a pedophile, I might actually start to dislike that guy. That would really change my opinion of him. Epc file surrounding nine eleven. Wow, coincidence. Oh, this just came out. Holy crap. Why people keep finding new shit all the time. Oh my god. Scroll down. This is fascinating. That fucking cryptic
Uh George Well, the Clinton ones worse. Yeah, I saw yeah. They stumbled across something where there was redacted photos. If you look through the files and typed in something, Like no photos rendered. Yeah. You could change the p dot PDF to dot MP four or dot M O V There's thousands of videos. Thousands of videos are popping up. Have they found anything in those videos?
You gotta go through them individually. Yeah, I know people are now that's I don't again the accuracy I don't know. I've seen a video where someone said this was from the video and there's like a girl crying in it, but I don't know. Adderall and autism, do your job. Find those videos. That should be the subtitle of the show. The Rogan Experience. Adderall of Autism. Do your job. Holy crap. That's hilarious.
Oh my God, what a world we're living in. You want to talk about I want to talk about Scott Adams. Sure. I was just at his memorial stuff. Are you r was he ever on your show? Yes. Um I got invited to speak and it was really a great uh um uh experience. I got a because I'm a mental patient, I got a Dilbert man. And the thing with the Dilbert mask is there's no mouth, right? So Dr. Drew is supposed to speak and I was gonna go there and do my little terrorism where I was gonna have my little phone.
Nice to meet you. I'm Dilbert and wave and then swipe and be like, you know, can you take off your glasses please? And he takes off the glass and be like, uh, nice eyes, may I I'm going to take them and just fuck with people at the funeral, like Scott would have wanted. Um it was really uh great. 'Cause it was very obese.
And I was kinda honored. Gutfeld asked me to G Gutfeld texts me, he goes, Hey, do you wanna speak? And I go, It'd be huge honor and he just goes, Great. And I'm like, Am I actually speaking or are you just, you know, quizzing me? Um I got to see Cernovich was there, Pasobic, a few other people, and then afterwards went to his house. And there's something really kind of um
eerie about walking into the house of someone who had just uh passed. His ex wife Sherry let me take two of his markers, which I will, you know, always tread. Uh hang in my house. There were two lines I couldn't say at the memorial'cause I knew the fans would get saw. Uh Scott is in heaven right now doing what he loved most, avoiding black people. And the reason Dilbert was a black and white comic strip is because Scott.
Right. Because Scott was a humorist, just go for the joke. Right. Um, but it w I mean it it's it's it's weird uh how much he still resonates, I think, with with people. Um and I I don't really have anything else particularly to say, but I just felt it was important to kind of, you know, commemorate. Yeah, it's a real bummer man because
It happened so quickly, is cancer. He got turbo cancer. Well he had it in January twenty twenty five. Uhhuh. And he said, I'm gonna wait for my stepdaughter to get married and she was there and I got to meet her. She was a lovely Uh to get married and then I'm gonna
And then tr uh he tweeted something out, R F K jumped in, Trump jumped in, they got him this medicine and they got him a few more months and you know, so he got six more months. Point being with the maid stuff, just'cause someone's terminal doesn't mean they don't have
Months left. You could do a lot in those months. It was funny, there's a another cartoonist I apologize in blank in his name and uh he was friends with Scott for a long time. Scott had promoted his work once and he went from like obscurity to like a big name. And Scott asked him, Hey, can you write the foreword to my forthcoming bag? And the guy's like, I'm not really gonna have time.
So it w like Scott was that kind of person where he's just like just because you know I'm about to meet my maker, I don't want you to be morose. I I I he his book Reframe Your Brain is a complete mess. Because what he does is he goes through uh fra mindsets and instantly recalibrates them. One of them is f the regular framework is I should do great at my job. And his reframe is My job is to prepare for a better
And when you think about it that way, having that shitty job isn't that rough because just laying the groundwork for something better. So when I spoke, I said the framework is we're having a memorial for Scott, but the reframe is we're having a party and Scott's really. Right. So if you think about that terms, hey, we're having fun. Where's this asshole? Because he didn't want us to be there like moping. He wan he always was positive, always was fun, even d during that day. So
I I thought I I just owe him a lot. Did he blame his death on the covet shot? So he got a lot. I this really bothered me because he'd be tweeting about stuff. People like shouldn't have got the shot. It's like this guy's about to die. Like this is your gotcha moment. This is your like I told you so moment. It's just
So he he did not blame it. Uh I wouldn't be surprised if that was the c you saw what just h I met James Vanderbeek through you. I met him at the mothership in the green room. Forty eight, six kids. The wife seemed very sweet and charming too. He was just a good
Seemed like a real chill dude. I haven't seen one person like a super nice guy. Not one person's anything bad to say about him, which says a lot from that kind of era. Yeah. No, he was a sweetheart. So forty eight man, that that's that's scary. And it's there's an unprecedented number of young people that are dying of cancer. In fact, was it Time magazine that had a cover of it? I saved it because it was kinda it the c cover cover's kinda crazy because it's proposing like what is causing
Why is this all happening? As if no one knows. Yeah, right. Like who c what could it be? What is the sh m could some fucking mystery? Could be anything. You know, uh I know I saved it. What do you think it could be? Anything weird happen? Do you guys know what a S V forty is?
But what's amazing about articles, like do they ar does that article make it a point to dou do they ignore the vaccine co so called vaccine, or do they downplay it as the cause? Like those are the two options. Right. What do they say in that article? Do they bring up
Couldn't possibly be Do you know what really fucked me up recently? And you're gonna laugh in my face and every Maha person listening this is gonna laugh in my face. What? And you can feel free to laugh in my face because it's covered in polka dots. Pff. Aspertame. I would drink my main method of hydration was Dr. Pepper Zero.
It's warranted. I know. This is why I have the polka dots. And I go to New York and I'm low on calories for my macros. And I switched to full sugar, Dr. Pepper, so it wasn't the caffeine. And my thinking changed. And I'm like, this is and I go online, this has been known. For since you change household. I was quicker on my feet. I w was having trouble remembering words, remembering names, remembering
being s my s verbal cogniz uh speed of how I speak is something that is part of my job. And I was having issues with that. I have their workarounds but I couldn't think of someone's name or someone's word. Or I was having this also there you go. Research has linked high consumption of aspartame to impaired memory, spatial learning deficits and faster cognitive decline.
in adults under sixty. Yep. Neural inflammation, oxidative stress, aspartame metabolize metabolites could trigger chronic Microglial activation and increased oxidative stress in the brain leading to neuronal damage and potential neurodegeneration. Um you know who pushed that through, right? Aspertain? Rumsfeld. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh search that so here's the thing throw that into perplexity. If you're if you're listening to this and you're someone like me who was living on it, just try for two days, right? Really? And you'll know right away if if because I I also had this low-key anxiety a lot. Like it was like a one out of ten, but it was there. I thought okay, it's just whatever.
Donald Rumsfeld, CEO of GD Cyril in the late 1970s, early eighties, played a pivotal role the FDA approval of aspartame, the artificial sweetener in products like nutrition. Holy crazy. Yeah. Um so they there was studies back then um showing approval due to potential carcinogenic car carcinogenicity rate.
Uh Hayes approved aspartame for dry food shortly after, expanding it to beverages by nineteen eighty three. What would there was studies on I think there was rat studies? They gave them like Alzheimer's. Uh well So I am just warning people as much as I can. Pretend I'm a quack. That's fine. Just give it two days pretend. And see what happens to you. Okay. Well it makes sense. I mean there's no biological free lunch.
If you get something it does something positive, it's probably doing something negative. It's if it's some y novel potion that you're pouring into your body, there's probably some negative aspect of it. Oh, Zenpick and all that. Brain tumors and rats. Yeah. Led the FDA to stay aspartame seventy four approval. Brain tum and fucking rats, man. Highlighted high brain tumor incidence in rat feeding studies.
and risks from phenylalanine causing convulsions or mental retardation. Isn't that what they think killed Tambi Faye Baker? Didn't she drink like a fucking gallon of Diet Coke a day? Really? Yeah, w d it's fine that. I think I think that's What's that? That spread to her lungs. Oh, that's awful. That's what is she doing ass to mouth stuff?
She should call Kristen Cinema. I don't think it's contagious. She should call Kristen Cinema. That was some weird orgies down there. Um fuck. But wasn't she like a prolific diet coke drinker? I think she was. I think people were trying to link it. Look you can't Well I tastes like sugar, it's not sugar. Um
I like stevia. Like I like these drinks called Zevias. They're stevia drinks and s the zero calories taste good. Right. Doesn't quite taste like sugar, but it tastes good enough. I'm just sticking in my water and my full sugar. So does. But my daughter's like really good at reading labels and finding she was like, You're su you're only supposed to drink one of those a day. I I was like, Are you sure? Was eating a protein bar this mor this morning while getting my face did.
And I just look at the label and one of the ingredients I see is titanium dioxide. I'm like, do I really titanium? Interesting. Like what? Yeah. So that's in me now. Yeah. There's other protein bars. You don't have to eat that shit. I think they all have that. No, I eat carnivore bars. You ever have carnivore bars? No. It's just like fat and meat.
I use M R E Light is the brand I use. Carnivore bars are great. They they're they just taste like like you're eating fat. Fat and meat. Like okay. What is that all the ingredients are? Yeah, I don't think there's anything bad in them at all. I think it's like Pull that company up, Carnivore Vars. I'm happy to switch. Yeah, I think it's pretty natural. I don't I don't think there's anything in there. This gotta have a lot of salt or sodium. Yeah, there's some salt in there, but salt's not. Yeah.
Like when you're eating TV dinners and those numbers, that's not that. That's different. TV dinners are filled with preservatives. Carnivore snacks is great. No, well this is something that I eat all the time. This is my go to snack. When I go to the UFC, that's the stuff I bring. Okay. I bring that and I'll be back. They don't have it for you? No, I bring it. I bring it because I I Dana, get the smell. It's fucking great. That but the carnivore bar. So this stuff.
Okay. Twenty grams of protein, thirty five gram animal based fat, four hundred to four hundred and twenty calories from grass finished beef, shelf stable, no refrigeration. That's what I eat. Okay, send it to me. Send me some guys. I have some. Oh, they'll send you some. But if I had some here I'd give I eat those all the time. I take'em with me, I throw'em in my car.
It's fucking great. If you wanna eat something that is what I need. It's protein. It's got grass finished beef tallow so you get the fat from grief tallow. Some people don't like the fe the taste of it. I like it. Why don't they l I'd like to It's kind of mild or bland. That's fine though. Right, yeah nutrition. Yeah, but it doesn't make me feel bad at all. It feels like food
Like I've tried some other stuff, like I tried those David bars. Oh my god, though I never heard of that Bart I was having. So David bars. They have some weird uh fat in it that your body doesn't digest. Like those Oleen chips? Something like that, but a new version of it. And so when this company Uh when they were purchased they uh got a monopoly on that kind of
this whatever this ingredient is and all these other companies, they blocked it. These companies that were using it. They couldn't use it anymore. So a lot of people were like boycotting David Barr. They taste good and they have like a lot of protein. I think it's like thirty protein for like a hundred and fifty calories. But good lord, the farts I was having. I was like, this is cause your body's like, what is this? I had that same thing with protein cherry.
Protein Cheerios. Yeah, it wasn't farts. I was having to try. Oh really? Yeah. Hey. Just eat it just eat some meat. Yeah, but eat something like carnivore bars or those carnivore snacks are delicious. It's just beef and salt. That's all those carnivore bar those snacks are. It's like a beef pastry. Good. It's not even like jerk. It's chewy, it's delicious. So this is a fat sub lab engineered fat substitute called EPG, manufactured by a little known Indianapolis-based company called Epige.
After tinkering with the product formulation, the Fugol set up a website in twenty twenty four and began promoting the bars at local bodybuilding shows and farmers markets. It's just an article about the Right. So what does it say that stuff does? So find out what that stuff does, yeah. But it does something where y your body doesn't digest the fat, like it doesn't turn into calcium. Yeah, this is making it sound like oh they're the it's the best thing ever. They're not mentioning the farm.
Well yeah, this is probably promoting it. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Oh no, this is about the lawsuit. Oh it is a better olestra. At the time fat was the big culprit for heart disease, which it's not Undigble. Olester was undigestible. That was its key attribute. It passed right through the digestive tract, therefore wouldn't result in body fat.
The problem was its low melting point in the body, which led to an infamously polite phrase printed on the wow labels may cause abdominal cramping and loose stools. Yeah, people are shitting this. Well this stuff did give me loose duels, but it did did give me like the devil was farting out of my asshole. But I gotta tell you, is that sometimes fun?
Farts? Yeah. Like when you have a fart that sounds like a symphony. Like when you're old and you start having new farts, I kinda like it. I'm just like hot, I still got it. Well, this was just like for me it was a warning sign. My body was like, Hey I think it's the word he said for other people too, Joe. Um yeah, right. Anybody else knew me? So what is the problem with that stuff? Demo look. Okay. Ooh. And problems.
So that was the thing where they were trying to block other people from using it. Bloating gas and diarrhea, yeah. Yeah. Bloating gas and diarrhea due to sugar alcohol. Wow. And the non digestible fat substitute, that's it. Uh which are poorly absorbed and can have a laxative effect, especially in larger amounts, the company recommending limiting intake to two bars daily.
Wait, wait, wait, can we stop talking about this? I love that they say minimize, not eliminate. There's no food where you're like, you know, if you eat too much, you're gonna definitely have discomfort. Who's eating two of these fucking things a day? I'm sure people I know, but I mean like after the farts, wouldn't you be like, Hey And but it's not only the farts, it's the distension.
Mm. Yeah, do you f have that bloated feeling? For some people the what but you know, why they would choose something like this is they want all that protein with one hundred and fifty calories and they'll just take the fart. Yeah. Well I mean look at whey. Whey's not digestible. That's the standard protein for bodybuilders. Yeah, but it doesn't bother me. Yeah, but a lot of people whey is not easy to break down. Yeah. I have zero problem with whey. I can't do whey. Really?
Interesting. Huh. Maybe I've something's wrong with my brain. I don't know what you're doing. you know, a milk allergy or something. That's possible. The hell knows. But the point is I switched to the whole meat protein. And that's what I'm saying. Something like carnivore snacks or those carnivore bars, that's the solution. Get those.
And that way you're you don't have to th even think. It's just food. And your body treats it like food. It feels like food when you eat it. It doesn't feel like it's just hard for me to get enough calories in a day for what I What are you trying to do?
Lean gains. Yeah. What does that mean? So you're keeping the same body fat, but you're slowly putting in weight. So it's really a tight rope. Okay. So you're in you're involved in that again. I know you bailed on bodybuilding type activities. Well no, I still go to the gym. But you're trying to get jacked. I think I'm in good shape. But you're trying to get jacked? I don't know what okay.
Yeah. I don't know why you're doing that. I didn't do that. What do you mean? I'm just asking, are you trying to get jacked? I I okay, that seems like a kind of question that you corner mean the gym no what do you mean by trying to get no no no no it's a normal thing for people that are trying to get s swole. You're trying to get like big muscles. I am trying to put on as much mass as I can while maintaining a somewhat lean.
What are you doing like as far as your workouts? I go to gym four days a week. What kind of workouts? I do a bro split. No, there's nothing wrong with the brose buttons of roast there's nothing wrong. Nothing wrong with it. Works. Yeah, but I'm not doing legs because my legs are already too big for my jeans. Get stretchy jeans.
I I have thirty pairs of jeans. I don't need to get more jeans. Point being my But do you have regular jeans that are made out of cotton or do you get jeans that have flex in it I have thirty pairs, so it's a mix. The point being my legs are great. I'm Russian. Russians have great leg DNA. So you don't work out your legs at all? You're gonna get an imbalance.
How? Also, if you work out your legs, your whole body will grow. I I that's true. And and you'll put up more pounds on the scale, but point being my I'm already at the point marginal with most of my genes. And it's really they're not skinny jeans. Let me see your legs. Uh you wan us how am I gonna show you my legs? Just stand up. Let me see your legs and your jeans.
Those are not too big. That is ridiculous. No no no. I don't need to be no no no no no. Hold on. I w I will send you a photo of my legs and you're gonna apologize. My legs are great. Okay. They're not chicken legs. I believe you. They don't look like chicken legs. But I don't think you should be concerned about them getting bigger. First of all, it takes a lot to get your legs much larger. Aaron Powell I I'm not disputing that, but point is that they're already marginal with my own.
And I think new clothes, you've got money. Listen, you gotta balance you gotta keep your body balanced. Like that's why you should do legs. Like you should never just do upper body. Well it's not that. You should condition both of them together. Okay. It's like you want to have a body that works together. My body is fine. I'm not gonna be body shamed on this show. I'm not body shaming you, I'm talking about functional.
What function? Going up the stairs? Anything you have to do. If you have to pick something up and move it. I can't. If you're not working your legs then all that stuff in your hips, all that stuff all all the surrounding tissue. All that stuff is not getting the exercise it deserves while you're working out your upper body.
Point being my legs are perfectly fine and strong and it was hard for me to get the calories I need. That's all I'm saying here. So um how many calories you what are you trying to do a day? I I think it's like thirty two hundred. Okay. Which is not nothing. That's a good meal for me. That's a lot of calories. Yeah. I guess. What do you mean? You don't think that's a lot? Okay. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. So thirty two hundred calories, so but you're trying to stay lean.
And um are you on testosterone replacement or anything like that? I don't know what you're talking about. Okay, you are? Good. That's good. Peptides? Any peptides? You know what I tried? Okay, good. I tried glow. What's glow? Oh well well well mister does a skip leg day. He doesn't have polka dots on his face. Someone does you call yourself
Uh bro, and you don't have Pokenass on your face. Glow is this new peptide. It's a combination of three things and it's called glow because it's has heavy copper, so it's blue. Glow, huh? You are welcome. Mm, interesting. Most people combine PPC one bi one five seven, T B five hundred, and G H K C U without addressing sequencing or inflammation first. Here's what determines whether glow truly works. Interesting. Oh, okay. So it's a combination of all those things together. Interesting.
With your heavy lifting? It wasn't I don't think it was heavy. It's just probably I don't know what happened. You don't lift heavy? I lift somewhat heavy, but not enough I I'm not gonna lift heavy enough to um provoke injury.
Okay. I think that's that's kind of foolish, especially at my age. It is, but if you want to gain weight. But I'm gaining weight. What kinda you're not doing bench or anything, are you? You do bench press? Why why wouldn't I do bench press? Why wouldn't you? Yeah.'Cause it's terrible for your shoulders. Well I I do dumbbell bench.
That's slightly better for your shoulders. Okay. But that activity of having a lot of weight down here I'm only putting up seventies, that's not that much. It's a lot for you. Okay. When you all that weight back here, when you're right here, uh it puts tremendous strength in the city. You could do dips. Dips are fantastic for it. Um, you know, uh don't go past ninety degrees. You can once you condition your shoulders to like be able to do it, but dips are good, weighted dips are really good.
Um, there's stuff that you could do. Like just kettlebells. Well I g I don't do any chest exercises other than dips. Really? Yeah. I do a lot of kettlebells. Most of my exercises are full body motion. Yeah, almost everything. Alternating cleans, a lot of renegade rows. Everything I do is kettlebells. All I do is I
Know someone who's really knows this stuff and I follow orders. Like that's good too. That's good too. My concern is always functional movement. My concern is always I want my body to work as one unit. I don't like isolating things. I I think I do a lot of compounds. Like like d uh uh incline dumbbell. Incline bench is an is one example or uh
But if you have shoulder problems and you're benching, I there's a lot of people I know that just have a completely eliminated benching from the body. Is that right? Okay. Especially heavy benching. It only f resolved this week, thank God. But you know what? It won't like If you're doing kettlebells, that's the weird thing about kettlebells, it increases the strength of all your activities. Like they found that people that do snatches
Uh it increased their VO2 max and it increased their ability to do chin-ups. I did used to do kettlebell some I had it p one at the lifts in my workout and I pulled out my back once something so fierce. It was a temporary, like like almost like a cramp, but it was very, very scary. Do you remember what the exercise was? Yeah, I was doing the when you're benting over and you swing it over your head. Snatch. Yeah.
Yeah. Do you warm up a lot? No. No, I do warm ups with the with the weights. Like I'll do f I'll my first set will be forty percent of my work. What I would recommend is Uh you gotta especially as you get older, you really have to warm your body up. And one of the things that I do is I always do ten minutes on the air dine bike, get everything like slightly sweaty, then I do a lot of jump rope.
I get everything fired up and then I do a lot of mobility exercises. I do like body twists, I do these things like you wave, I get down to the bottom and I wave all the way up. and backwards and I go forward, I do a lot of twists. I get everything loose. And then I start with push ups and bodyweight squats. I do a hundred push ups, hundred bodyweight squats, and that's my warm up.
So all that stuff. By the time I've done with all that stuff, now everything's warm and now I can start working out. How many days a week do you lift or work out? Well I work out almost every day. Oh okay. Occasionally I'll take a day off, but I work out almost every day. And then with lifting it's almost every day. It depends on what I'm doing. If I'm hitting the bag, generally I don't I don't lift weights the days I hit the bag. So that's like maybe two or three days a week.
Um so the other two days a week it I alternate between stuff like body weight stuff like pull ups, chin ups, dips, uh I do uh L pull ups where you know you uh stick your legs out straight so you're working your abs. time you're doing that. I do uh a a bunch of different things, lower back stuff, a lot of back extensions, reverse hyper stuff, sit ups on that G H B machine where you're going all the way I'm just happy with the results and I'm of the if it ain't broke don't fix it. Uh
That's good. Yeah. Well, as long as you're happy with the results. I would just avoid a lot of heavy lifting with uh bench press. I think bench press is uh B m so many people I know that have fucked their shoulders up.
Fuck their shoulders up through bench press. And I know a lot of bros are gonna get angry. I know. That's what I'm waiting for. It's oh my god. How much do you bench bro? Yeah. But here's the thing, like we did the Sobra October thing where uh, you know, w we had the these these stupid fitness challenges and then After Sober October's over, we all got drunk. And so then we went out to my gym and uh Um Ari, Tom, and Bert were all trying to bench two twenty five.
And I don't bench at all and I did it thirteen times. Like I I don't bench and I just Ari could pull up two plates? No. Okay that was just a good thing. Yeah, two. Yeah. Burke can do it now, but f back then he he wasn't lifting. You can't casually do two plates. Yeah.
Yeah, but I did without ever benching. I know. No, but I mean like you're someone who works out or damn. So like if you're no casual design crushes, they all got crushed. Yeah, of course. Wait, they thought they could do it? Bert did. Bert definitely Bert's heavy, right? How much does Bert weigh? He's like two fifty. Bird's like two fifty. Right for sure. Tom was bigger at the time too. Yeah, there they got crushed they got crushed. But the point is it's like
Doing kettlebells will help all those other things. Of course.'Cause it just your whole body gets strong and it's not an unusual motion. You know, you could do. Yeah, I just I I like the way. No, weights are great. Well, even dumbbell I think dumbbell benching is probably better than barbell benching. And I just think there's other ways to work your chest.
Okay. Yeah I'll talk to Monster Russ. That's my guy. And there's a lot of people that don't even agree with dips. Like my my orthopaedic surgeon that told me that I need to get my soldier shoulder operated on fifteen years ago and I never did.
Uh he was like, Gotta stop doing dips. I go, Why really? He goes, Everybody I know that a fucked their shoulder up did it through dips. I go, Well that doesn't mean anything. Right. Like what uh like but I'm looking at him and I'm looking at him and his body, I'm like, Look at your shut the fuck up. And look at all these gymnasts. Like they do dips twenty four seven.
Exactly. Just build up to it. Don't do too much. All of it is like overworking your body. You have to like slow progression is the the key. There is something fun about I I do love doing dips because you feel like you're flying. There's something about it when you're just kind of Yeah, yeah. I don't know. What can I say? This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Listening to this podcast, Smart Move, being financially savvy.
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Dips are. Yeah, along with uh the push-ups. You do a hundred push ups a day and then do dips. But you're the y you okay, we could talk about this also. You're the one can I tell you what you said to me at the mothership about this? What I said. You said you can't be jacked and be funny. Well you can, but you can't show it. Yeah you're too jacked. There's a cough.
Well, there's definitely a cost to the way you look. Like you look intimidating. Right. And that's not that funny for people. Right. Yeah. And Roseanne was telling me or not just sh when she was starting out, she lost all this weight and people stopped laughing. Ah, there's plenty of skinny, funny women. Not in not in nineteen eighty one.
Ah You think are you calling Rosanbar a liar? No, I just don't think that's what it was. I I've seen people lose weight and still be hilarious. It's just like peop there is a mentality that people have. Like Kevin James, his fucking agent said this to him once. I got furious. Kevin was losing weight, he was trying to get in shape. He was really self-conscious about his weight. And his agent said, Kevin, when you lose weight, you're losing roles.
But that's true though,'cause he's he's very much a specific character. So what he could fucking do anything. He's a talented guy. It's not like if he lost the weight he wouldn't be funny more. That dude's fucking funny. Hold hold on, hold on. I'm not disrespecting Kevin James in any way.
Mad respect for him. Point b ball cop, the greatest comedy of all time. It's a funny movie. I I believe you. I haven't seen it. Point being, he is very much in people's mind a certain specific thing. Right. Right. So if Kevin James stopped being that thing, I think it's gonna be a lot hard for a lot of normies to come over with him to a different paradigm. That's all I'm saying. Perfect.
Come on. It would be a challenge, but I think he'd still be hilarious. I don't I do not think that he is limited by his weight. You don't okay. If Will Farrell got like Hugh Jackman, you think he'd have the same roles? It w he would n wouldn't necessarily have the same roles, he would still be very funny. Yes, he would, but you know perfectly well that there's lots of things. Like if he got the rock jack.
Right. It would be weird. People don't know how to deal with that stuff. So the agent's not wrong. Well, the agent's still not looking out for Kevin's health. Was how big was he that big? He was big and he didn't like it and he was worried. Yeah, okay, that's very fair. Yeah. But you don't have to go from you could go slim or you don't have to go to like, you know
running peptides and stuff. Right. You don't have to get jacked. Yeah. But maybe he wants to. You can. It could be done. I I mean what's that guy who claims he's Natty, that Indian guy? Who was in uh I think The Avengers or something? Oh, Camille? Yeah. Was it him? I don't think he c claims he's daddy. Does he? They do special
It's special exercises, Joe. Does he really d he doesn't even claim he's on testosterone replacement? Don't you know that if you just do lateral races Yeah, he claims that he? He has to. They all have to know if that's real. Yes, it does. Look him up. Oh, okay. He did a funny bit in his stand up is recent stand up special about that. Does he claim that he's natural?
He's just a weird one. The one from the movies. Yeah, he's a stand-up. He started out as a stand-up. Oh good for him. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. He started out as a stand up. Yeah. I I mean he's doing stand up again and he just released a special. What's his name, Claims Natty too? The Thor. They all do. No, that guy claims Natty.
They have to. Chris Hemsworth? I think he does. Get the fuck out of here. That guy gained like sixty pounds of solid muscle. Well, that's because he's doing lateral raises, you fool. Oh, I didn't know. And you d what how do you know? You've never seen him put a needle in his ass. I've been on testosterone replacement for a long time and I highly recommend it to anybody who wants to do that. How long have you been on it? Since I was like almost forty. I started with like the cream.
And then uh well I noticed my my I was you know, I was training a lot. That was back then I was doing jujitsu four or five days a week and I was lifting uh That's hard on the body. It's hard. And you're always tired and you know, uh I had a doctor that specialized in that stuff. It's one of those things was Hormone replacement therapy and and doing a lot of it for people that had had head injury.
Because people with head injuries, uh people that have had uh CTE and a lot of like you have damage to your pituitary gland. A lot of times your brain is not producing testosterone at the level it's supposed to be. Oh, is that right? Okay. Yeah, your pituitary d gland gets damaged from repeated head trauma. That's one of the things that causes depression in a lot of people that have had head trauma is like your body's not making hormones anymore. So you just
You're fucking lethargic all the time. That's a factor. His statements. He described a year long process with professional trainers, nutritionists funded by Marvel, daily workouts, precise calorie tracking, no refined sugar, and minimum fat. In his twenty nineteen Instagram post, he emphasized the resources required but never mentioned PEDs. steroids or denied their use. So he never denied it. Okay, he didn't deny it. So good okay. I I take it back, I apologize. Yeah.
From a softer build at age forty one. For fucking sure he got on testosterone. There was a lot of people that were giving me shit about being on testosterone like fifteen years ago that are on it now. Yeah, no disrespect to him. Well there's nothing wrong with it. No, that's the point. No. But at a certain point. Oh, you're cheating. It's like cheating for what? Where's the test?
People are silly. And they're just they're mad that he looks he didn't look like he looked like them. He was doughy and now all of a sudden he looks like a bro and they don't like it. Yeah, but the thing that's kinda crazy is now the kids in high school are are hopping on. That's crazy because you're gonna destroy your endocrine.
And also if you're peaking at 18, that's not going to be good for your mental health. Aaron Powell Well it's not just that. It's just like it kills your dick. It kills your when you put a bunch of exogenous testosterone in your body, your body stops making testosterone. And so say if you're on a cycle for like a month, two months, it will take you four months for your body to get back to normal.
I think that's the ratio most people if you're not taking like clomophene or any of these other things or H C G or something that naturally ramps up your testosterone, um I think they think that the number is like double the time that you run a cycle. If you keep running cycles, it gets harder and harder. And it's like why do we have to make testosterone? This guy's got more than a normal human ever has. Right. And so we just stop. And I think these numbers are through the roof.
Well they all wanna be like an influencer. They all wanna be jack You know, it's just like you don't understand the harm you're doing to your body. But it's also the kind of thing where it's just like You shouldn't be comparing yourself to the guy on Instagram or the gym. You compare yourself to the guy on the plane. Next time you're at an airport. That's what I do. That's what kinda helped me. When I get on a flight, I'm like, how many of these people, especially my age?
are in good shape, it's gonna be one out of a hundred. Well the other thing is there's especially when you're young, there's plenty of stuff that you can do that's natural. and super beneficial and not dangerous like creatine. But you're not a creatine is tremendous. But you're not a body. You're not gonna be a name. A name. No one's gonna notice you on Instagram.
They're chasing the fame. It's very sad. It's very it's I mean, some of these guys look better than Schwarzenegger and they're seventeen. It's insane. But it's just like what's your future gonna Well, you're not gonna have kids, right? You're gonna be sterile. You're not gonna have any sperm. But the you know, th w there was that thing about they asked Olympians, would you
give up like twenty years of your life if you're guaranteed a gold and like ninety percent of them said yes. Yeah. Like I know. Well look at Lindsay Vaughn. I mean she knew that she had a blown A C L and she still skied. Is that right? Yeah, she blew her A C L out like a couple of weeks before the Olympics. and still decided to compete and then shattered a leg with this horrible compound fracture.
Oh you didn't know about that? Oh yeah, she had to get airlifted. She's had multiple surgeries. She's fucked for a long time. Her leg broke in multiple places. She's got rods and stuff in it. And leg breaks are really scary because your body doesn't necessarily always heal from those. Like sometimes the blood flow's not appropriate, it's not it's not what you need and people get their legs amputated from those things. Yeah, femur breaks are super dangerous.
I've never broken a bone and I'm part of it. Never? I know, right? That's crazy. Yeah. Nothing? A part of me is like is this something I want to try before I die? Like it's No, it sucks. Does it I but suc how bad is it? Well I broke my arm when I was seven. I broke my forearm right here. I fell off a monkey bar and snapped my forearm and That healed perfect. But when you're ki you're a kid, they just put me in a cast and like six weeks later I was good to go. Um, I broke my
fibula, the small bone of my tibia uh in uh sparring, a friend of mine threw a a back kick at the same time. I was throwing a kick and his heel hit my My fibula and it cracked that. But that was only a crack. I actually competed with that. I put soccer pads on it. Those plastic soccer I taped. Soccer in step pads. I didn't tell anybody. Oh, okay.'Cause it was a taekwondo tournament. So I had pants on. And so I put like a regular um these soccer pads, I taped them to my calf.
Okay, great. Were you a national champion? I won uh American Open and I came in second place in the US Cup against the national champion and I think I should have beat him. I got a bad decision. Um but I never won the national championship. But at the time that I was getting ready to try to win the national championships in eighty eight, the problem was I had already been
disillusioned because I had started kickboxing. Okay. And I'd already started like realizing there's a lot of holes in Taekwondo. Well Taekwondo is like a with the rise of UFC, it's really not good. Right, right. Right. They're devastating. And a guy who's a really good kicker, like a Michael Venom Page for for instance, who's a karate specialist who learned how to defend takedowns, they're really dangerous because
They have the ability to cover distance and kick at range and if you're not a good kicker and you don't recognize what this guy's doing, they could fuck you up. Right. But there was so many holes in Taekwondo when it came to like punching to the face and then leg kick.
I didn't realize like how many holes there were in it until I started really getting into kickboxing. So I was by the time eighty eight rolled around I was already disillusioned. Huh. Okay. Yeah. And then I was already starting to do stand up, so it was like what am I doing? Oh, I got a bone to pick with you. Ooh. I'm excited. Oh, you pr you set me up perfectly. Okay. You set me up perfectly. I was I d uh thank you, Joe Rogan. Bridget Fetessey
sat in this very chair. Right. The chair I'm farting in right now because of my my I had some vintage Oline chips for eBay. And it's this chair's gonna be a disaster. That's the Trump chair. I know. Um and she told you that I'm starting to do stand And you said, That's great. He's so funny. He could open for me. And then I was all excited about this opportunity.
And I t and I wait a few weeks'cause I was scared to like whatever and you text me about some meme and I go first of all, I don't think I said you could open for me. I highly doubt I said that. You did, but that's fine, I'm not holding you to it. I'm just saying you said that. That's fine.
Maybe I was joking. I'm not holding you to it. You were just encouraging. Okay. Let's just leave it there. I think you're very funny. Okay. You text me that's a meme. I go, Hey, I'm getting you stand up. You go, You absolutely should. You're very funny. I go, I have my set. What should I do next? Do you know what you said? What Nothing. Yeah. You left me on a red. You're on your own, bitch. What do you mean? Because you gotta figure it out.
It's like, you know, I want to start fighting, what should I do? You know what to do. Go to a fucking gym. Figure it out. Start training. Don't I can't hold anybody's hand. Stand up is too hard for you to help someone in the beginning.
You've gotta actually wanna do it. Sure. So you gotta go to open mics, you gotta do stand up, you gotta get ready, put a set together, record it, review it. Done. Okay. Yeah. So you're doing stand up all the time. Not all the you saying I should do it all the time? You have to do it all the time.
It's like if you want to spar, you have to spar every week. Do you know what everyone told me who I asked? Like I asked like ten like big names biggish people who are names and they all said the same thing. Yeah. Well bombing is good because it r lets you realize how difficult it is and then you don't like the feeling. So you work really hard. And also you know what you have to be ready for that moment and how to recover from it. Yeah. Yeah. Failure. Failure I think in everything is.
Losing is important. It's very important. It it it motivates you to do better. You know, people don't like that feeling, but they're the all a lot of uncomfortable feelings lead to growth. And that's why they're important. That's true. Heartbreak, losing a job, getting fired, you know, all those things are important. Okay. Well Yeah. Stand up's important to it's important to have like bad sets. Okay. That's fair. That's very fair. I've been talking to Cal and he's been very helpful.
Yeah, just there's plenty of places we could perform. I mean Austin alone, on my street alone on six. Is there's like within a one block radius, there's like seven clubs. I'm not arguing that you want to do stand-up, this is the fucking place, man. I mean, it's incredible right now.
Okay, fair enough. I mean my club alone has two nights of open mic nights. Is that true? Uh-huh. Sunday and Monday night are both open mic nights. Okay, then I'm gonna sign up. Yeah, we have a real development program. The whole idea is like to make it so that we have like a a real foundation of people that are coming up.
And that motivates all the people that are already doing well. It's like all these guys are like really working hard and it gets everybody excited about working hard and then it motivates the people at the top saying, Hey These young guys are really good. And then guys start getting specials and like Cam Patterson just got an SNL. All these things are happening for people from the club, so it's like
It's a great place. Okay. No, that's fine. That's very fair. Yeah, but it's not something that you can kind of casually do every now and again. You can, but you won't be as good as you will be if you do it every week. That's Callan said that as well. Yeah. He's like you have to put in the time. Yeah, you can't like run around your block once a month and think you can go to America.
Right. Yeah. You gotta get into and you gotta g the the thing about stand up is like you're making a mountain, one layer of paint at a time. It's it's not It's not a quick process. To become a stand up, most people agree and it's not a hard, fast rule'cause it's depending upon how much actual time you do and how much focus and but uh the general rule is ten years.
Really? Yeah. The general rule is ten years. Like people don't really think of you as being legit until you've been in it for ten years. I don't know that I have ten. I don't know if anybody has ten years. I don't know if the human race has ten years. I I You see those robots in China that are doing fucking kung fu? Are they already? Oh my god, they just did this demonstration, this martial arts demonstration with these robots on a stage.
Crazy how fucking how they move. I'm more worried about if anyone can use AI to engineer a bio. Oh that yeah, that's real. Because there's a guy there's a piece I a guy, I forget his name, I apologize, where he was he's one of these big AI people and he goes, If you use the paid for AI, he goes, I can tell it to write me code and it also knows like Idiosyncratic preference. So it's better than hiring a person and that's today. Yeah. Three years.
I don't think you can. I don't think you can. And there's a lot of people that are resigning from a lot of these companies that are saying we're doomed. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not a doom and gloom kind of guy. But that I think is a much faster path toward something happening then you know robots kung food robots. Weapon systems that are totally autonomous. That's how
The government's working on that. And I believe there was an issue see if you can find this, with one of the AI companies not willing to partner with the U or not willing to Do something with autonomous weapons programs. I think it's anthropic. Yeah, I think anthropic was like Uh we don't think that's good and all the other ones are like, let's go. Holy shit, yeah.
Yeah, well the thing is, is China doing that? They probably are. Anthropic is clashing with the Pentagon over AI use. Here's what each side wants. Uh is under review as the two sides negotiate over how the company's AI models can be used. Startup wants assurance that its models will not be used for autonomous weapons or mass surveillance. Oh my god, these pop ups are brutal. Um fuck you CMBC. Uh the DOD wants to use anthropic models for all lawful use cases.
without limitation, according to uh Emil Michael, the Under Secretary of War for Research and Engineering. Holy crap. Yeah. So this is what they're doing. So which is worse, autonomous weapons or mass surveillance? I think it's mass surveillance. Both of them are terrible. Yeah, which is worse though. Because they work hand in glove. Both of'em are terrible. I mean, did you see Alex Carp?
that that uh interview that he did where he was talking about Palantir and he's like we're gonna you know and occasionally kill people we're gonna use it to kill people. Yeah. That's what he said. Right. And right. But he was like openly saying kill people Like this is what we're doing. Like uh what? W did you see that big leak from Palantir? Which I don't know if it's been verified or not.
Where they were talking Kim.com was the one who uh Right who dropped this. Yes. I did see that Kim.com tweeted about it, but I didn't see if it was verified. Right. What did he say exactly? I don't Jay if you could play. It was a long it was a long, long thing. And it was very s he said Palantir got hacked. He said he doesn't have
I I don't think it was verified that this was legitimate, but these were the bullet points he laid out and it was extremely disturbing. I've it's not surprising that a private company is gonna be more effective and efficient than the government at implementing what the government wants. A lot of the things during COVID wasn't literally the government. These corporations were more than happy to impose
These kind of you know, don't if you don't get the vaccine so called you're gonna get fired. Well they were all having backdoor deals. Exactly, but they they were more than happy to do it. Right, right. Which is fucking crazy. The th the thing about this AI stuff that n no one realizes except for the engineers that are deeply invested in this is that it's accelerating at this tremendously rapid pace that they can't really control.
Chat GPT five, I was reading this article. Chat GPT made chat GPT five. They essentially task the AI to make a better version of itself. Make sure that's true. Right now for free, if you put any photo on Grok Imagine, it animates.
And it looks realistic. Yeah. Like instantly. There's a video of me and Keanu Reeves doing kung fu in this room. Like he's dressed up like John Wick. But it looks real, I'm sure. It looks very real. It's like a scene from John Wick. It's like we're we're And the average person can't distinguish between what is on their screen and what is outside their window.
Right. And for the human brain, they're going to memor remember it and perceive it as something that they had seen before. Right. It is a very scary thing. I remember. Something that clicked in my head, Survivor season one. So that was like two thousand, I think it was two thousand one. They had the second to last episode, this four contestants left, and they go next week on Survivor, and Sue turns to Kelly and she goes, We gotta vote out Rick.
And I was on a message board at the time and one of the people go they're like, Who do you think's gonna be eliminated? One goes, Oh, I think they're gonna vote out Richard. Did you hear what Sue said? We all heard it. This wasn't eavesdropping. This was a sound clip that the editor left in. There was nothing else to hear. In fact, you could only hear what Sue said to Kelly. And that was such a wake-up moment for me. Like, holy shit, people really think they're on that beat.
And they heard something they weren't supposed to. It was it was But you laugh. But there will be people who tell you right now with a straight face, and I think they could pass the line tactic test easily, that Trump said we should inject bleach.
And Trump said I'm praising very fine people, white nationalists. Right. And you could play the tape, they will not perceive it. They're not lying. Right. And I think that's a big hurdle for a lot of people to accept. People honestly are perceiving things that you're not. That's true. Yeah. And they're also only looking at headlines. or only looking at narratives. They get a tweet, they read the tweet, Oh my God, I can't believe they're doing this and then they put it down They're too busy.
They're not gonna do deep dives. It's not that they're too busy, it's that their preconception's been validated. They think too they're not running a true false filter, they're running an us them filter. Right. That's right. That's right. That's it. Yeah. Very fine people on both sides. I mean Obama said that during the campaign. When he said that during the campaign I'm like, that's crazy. Well Biden said that was his reason for running.
You don't remember that? Did you see in the in the Epstein file someone said that Biden's dead? And the other thing that's also saying that Epstein's alive. Yeah. That might be real. I don't know how they pull that off. Um I'm not so here's the thing. I'm sorry to interrupt you. Whenever I hear something that's out there, I'm not saying it's ridiculous. I always say to myself, what steps would need to be taken for this to be true, right? So if you're gonna keep Epstein alive
And he's obviously extremely visible, his face and very known. How do you keep that guy under wraps would be the question I would have. You move him to Israel and you get plastic surgery. You think so? That's it? Yeah. Look, Renee Zellweger looks different. And she's a fucking movie star. Like she kinda ruined her career by making herself look prettier.
She's got all those big cheeks. No, she got all those big cheeks and her eyes are all like small now. What did she do? Let's take a look over. She's all puffy faced, yeah. Like people said that Bradley Cooper did something. But he came in here, he looked fucking completely normal. She did something. So did Bradley Cooper looked Exactly like Bradley Cooper to me. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Like she did something weird. She was so cute. She looks like that Look at her in two thousand nine. She was so cute and was that annoying lefty lady who's a podcaster? Oh no. Yes you do. The one who's a real housewife and now she's Oh yeah. I don't know her name, but she's awful. Yeah, she's a heel. She's a does a great job being a heel. She's great at that. Everyone they're fucking lock'em all up. Right, right, yeah. She looks like a lot of people. That's what she looks like now.
Other photos? Okay, the one on the far right. She's still pretty. But there's there's definitely a change in her face. So look at that fifth photo. Jennifer Gray is a better example. Well she's got a nose job. Right. But after that nose job, her career kind of fucking stopped. Well no, Linda Evans is the worst of this. Can you pull up Linda Evans? Linda Evans from The Terminator? From Dynasty. Oh. Linda Hamilton terminated. Yeah, Linda Evans is very Hamilton is fucking awesome and strangers
What did she do? I mean, she looks horrific. Well, she's old, man. Yeah, but there's plenty of old people who don't look like that. But she doesn't look like she did anything. She sued. She sued for a plastic surgery? Yeah. Look at that one right there, Jamie. Yeah. Pull that up. I did. I'm just It's bad.
Well that's just I don't see where does it say the one right under that, the red one. See that? Yeah, pull that up, see? Uh finding peace and happiness growing older in the northwest. Well d that just looks like an older lady. But she doesn't look like herself at all.
But she's older. But I she had a lot of effed up work. Maybe she had some of it reversed. Maybe. W you're saying that's not that that one's not that shocking to me. That's just an older lady. I don't think I think it's quite Because I think it looks bad. No disrespect to her. I mean that's the difference between a thirty year old lady and a fucking seventy year old lady. There's plenty of seven-year-old lady who don't look like
Like protein bars. I don't know. That that don't think that's the best example. I think the Renee Z okay, what has Linda done to her face? Right. Okay. So it might not even be true. There's a lot of cases like this. You know, it's it's it's whatever. Yeah. What was the point? I don't know. How do we get on that? What we're talking about? Keanu Reeves, the uh Renee Zellweger. Chat GPT stuff and then switch to that. Okay. Yeah. ChatGPT five. Did ChatGPT code chat GPT five?
If you ask that question it doesn't There's something that I was trying to dig into about it's called like self correcting loops or something like that. This was the concern about AI was that eventually AI would become sentient and autonomous and would create better versions of itself. Right. And it would do it very quickly. Right. And I think we're in that right now. I think what we're getting
from these engineers is an indication that the people that are deeply involved in this are fucking disturbed by the power of this stuff. They essentially say that they don't have a job anymore. They just kind of show up and it does the work for them. and that this is far more potent than what the general public is aware of. So and getting better all the time. We're at the point now where Grok is a better conversationalist and better at perceiving nuance and humor than the average person.
A lot of times if I have a tweet and some Cretan comes in with some response, I will just say, Hey Grok, explain to this person such and such and such and I leave it for Grok to be like a tart handler. And I do this every single day. But the point is if I'm being humorous. Maybe my jokes aren't that funny. Point being Grok understands that I'm being humorous. Right. Even this person isn't worth pretending not to. So what happens when the average person, what are they bringing to the table?
Right. What about artists too? Right. The AI art's getting better every single day. Like I did a book where I used AI for the cover. It's like what are you gonna do with I d you're gonna have a certain number of people who are good at like uh massaging it and you know, g having great ideas but
At a certain point there's only so much you can do. Did you see what the Door brothers did? No. They just rele they're these really good AI artists. They're the guys who do all the intros to the Kill Tony videos. Yeah, yeah. They're fucking awesome. And they just made like a Hollywood movie.
And they did it in like a day. Right. With AI. See if you can find that clip'cause it went viral and everybody's kinda freaking out. They're like Hollywood's done.'Cause this clip is insane. It's it's so realistic looking. By the time we're all wrapping our heads around it, it's already six months ago. Mm-hmm. That's what's crazy. And it's far better than it was then. Dang they put out another one today. Let me see. Put the heads on this ship. Okay. Yes sir.
Go full screen, bag it up. Pause screwed up. This is all AI? Yeah. Hold it for. Holy crap. Whoa. What the fuck? Oh, man. HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT I don't wow I don't think it's a good idea for humans to casually This is the other one they did. Okay, this one I'm really busy. Can you get Sophia today? What? No. This is all AI? This is a phenomenon caused by a massive animation. Stay tuned to this channel for continuous coverage. God look at her face. It looks so realistic. I don't like this.
Sophia! I love you. I'm on my way. Oh my god. I need you to hide. Get underground. I can't watch it. Oh my god. It's a great cyber truck ad. ¡Suscríbete al canal! No, but you can hear the engine when it does that. It makes a weird humming noise. Good morning, Sleeping Beauty. Why don't you get the president on the phone?
We have her. I'll be right there. Oh my god. I don't like this at all. I don't like that at all. I don't think the sound was AI. Some of it could have been, but point being I don't think it's a good thing for people to casually be seeing footage of people being shot. Like I'm on YouTube Well they've already got that. I'm saying it's not a good video. Check out this video that I just sent you, Jeremy.
There's a lot of I watch a lot of police body cam videos on YouTube. Oh yeah. And you see people killed and it's just like Are we not having conversation the effects of the human mind of just watching l real people getting killed left and right all the time? Oh I know. Especially on young people? There's a lot of that. Like I don't like seeing I mean watching check this out. Okay. Oh Jesus. Okay. This is crazy. Crazy. Oh, they're shame. Okay. Wow.
But I don't like you you don't see anything wrong with just casually sh showing planes flying into buildings. Yeah. Well all movies do that though. I don't think that's yeah, but the thing is this is how you kinda boil the frog. But they've always done that in action movies. I don't think to that level is is
to have anyone be able to make this the drop of a hat. I'm not saying it should be banned. I'm just saying I think at a certain point if twenty four seven we're seeing right dozens of people getting killed, yeah, it's gonna have an effect on No question.
Well it's what we have now before this not good. Do you know what else is fucked up? We're not even talking about the the what the this kind of porn is gonna look like. Right. Right. And porn with any like you or Jamie. You and Jamie could be fucking in a video. What I'm talking about snuff films. Oh right. Right. Yeah. You can make one right now. Uh you're doing the girl then you cut her head off or cut body parts off. Yeah, just pull out a shotgun as soon as you pull out. Yeah, anything. Yeah.
And it'll look really realistic and you have no way of n we' we're still apes. People probably already making that. Well no that I know. The the investigators already don't have the tools to distinguish between real videos of infants and And this is again this has been a r bridge that's been crossed and
Like no one knows what to say or do about it. It's just like we're kinda just bat blinking and it's here. Well, it's not just here, it's here and growing and getting stronger all the time and we're all just plowing head first forward towards the cliff. And what what's gonna happen when this started kind of stuff gets um uh um matched up with psychedelics? Well it's not just that. It's like what happens when this stuff starts running all of our resources?
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Creepy Line? There was that documentary, The Creepy Line. Uh Robert something Malone, I think his name was. He was a he's an academic. His point he went through Google and he goes, Look, if I'm Google, right, and I r and I I or I'm Facebook. And I have people who are like Trump and people who like Hillary. So if I just put out, hey, you should vote.
And send it just to the Hillary people. I'm not on paper endorsing Hillary. Robert Epstein, thank you. Yeah. Right, but then you're going to be m getting out that vote in the direction you want. Well his concern is Google search. Sure. So like if you search Trump, it's all negative stories. I've talked to him also about the f the Facebook stuff. If you're promoting go out and vote and you have this group versus that group, it could nudge it.
Very easily. Right. So it's that technology is already here and been used. And been used. Right. So that's real election manipulation that's already legal and being used. Right. For whatever reasons. So well you know what reason. But but I also but you know curated search engine. Like I noticed that during the pandemic there was a story about a doctor in Florida that got vaccinated and then
really quickly afterwards had a stroke and died. And I I read the story and a lot of people were concerned about it. And then I tried to find it on Google. I could not find it. I could not find it. I looked everywhere. Then I looked on Duck DuckGo and I found it immediately.
And then some it was in the first page. And then somewhere along the line Duck DuckGo got weird too. Oh Jesus, okay. Yeah. So it's like they realize that people were finding things on Duck and then I believe is Duck DuckGo curated? Or did they just have open source What are they saying? And then I started using Brave and Brave was showing me things that other
Other search engines weren't showing me. But then on the other hand, if they're are they show there you have the problem of is it showing you things that are just not true? Right, right. But I was searching for a very specific story. Right, right. You're definitely gonna get a lot of that, especially if there's like look, the Hunter Biden laptop story. They got
Fifty one different former intelligence agents to say that it was Russian disinformation. Not curated, okay. Not curated in the sense of building a personalized filter bubble based on user history, but it does curate results by ranking. I don't know how you can really avoid that though, right? That's curated. indexing and filtering from hundreds of sources, including Bing.
Bing's not good. But it has to put things in order to do that. What it deems relevant. Unlike Google, it avoids user tracking and personalization, providing a more neutral, non-personalized search experience, but also curated by ranking. No user profile. It doesn't mean that it's to be some ranking process. Yeah.
You know, it's gonna have things in order no matter what search engine. Right. When you're looking for something very specific. That is yeah, that's obviously the good. I could not find it. All it was saying was the benefits of getting the COVID vaccine.
We don't know. How would we know? I I don't know. I mean but you should be disturbed at Rob uh at uh Robert Epstein's work. Because Robert Epstein's work shows that with just this curated search result you can shift All these centrist voters, all these middle of the pack voters, these swing voters, you can shift them by a m of I think two percent. I think it's larger. Or something crazy. Yeah. Yeah. So it it's and I don't think things are looking good for the Republicans going forward.
Well it doesn't look good for the midterms, right? Oh that's I mean this ice stuff is doing a great job for that'cause a lot of people are like, hey, we're moving towards fascism. And the perception of the economy. Yeah. The thing with the ice stuff, it's like people You know, voters can have contradictory perspectives. Like they wanna get rid of illegal aliens.
But don't force them out. It's like what are you gonna do? Send them a strongly worded letter? Well I think the real problem is they're not willing to address the fact that these are paid protests and adjustments. Sure. And that these people it's not this is not an organic thing where people are taken to the streets. They're literally being paid. These people have come out and said you get X amount of money, you get a hundred dollars a day if it's cold out, you get more money.
One of the things people were saying that I don't know if it's true at all was like this might be horse shit. They were saying they gave them decibel meters to see how loud they were yelling. Protest.
Really? But they were providing protesters with these decibel meters and for them to or in order to get paid, they had to be yelling at a certain decibel. I was like, this sounds like disinformation. Yeah, that I feel like how much are those things? How much is a fucking decibel meter? That sounds like very Like a a problem in terms of like cost. Right. Right? Right. If I'm a protester.
thousands of people and you're providing them with these decibel needs. I would think. Right. Yeah. It sounded like horse shit. But there's a lot of horse shit out. There's a lot of people that they do interviews and they just f make up fake stuff just for clickbait. But the thing is there I think people are I agree with you or like over ice, but it's like what's your plan B? Right.
The amnesty? Like if that's your argument, that's fine, but it's just like it's not a tangible situation. I mean, look what's going on overseas. Right. What are you gonna do? Like right now, there's a guy who's running against Farage from the right of him, and it's like you're gonna break up that vote. Like it's called Restore Britain. Oh, what is he saying? He's saying he's like Farage is too soft. We're gonna deport them all, blah blah blah. It's just like
Like how d like fine, I I understand that's your argument. Literally how are you gonna do that without mass enforcement? I'm not saying I'm for it or against it. I'm just saying what is your plan? It's not it's easy to promise.
If I'm in a country that's awesome, I don't want to go back to my shithole. Right. But I'm gonna do whatever I can legally and sometimes extra legally to make sure I'm staying. Especially the people over there that have been encouraged to go there. Right. And then they bend the laws in order to kind of hide their crimes. Right.
One of the best things that happened to me was uh December thirty first, twenty twenty four, so it was the beginning of twenty twenty five. I was on Twitter and you heard about these grooming gangs over And even me, who writes a lot about the nature of evil, was naive'cause when you hear the term grooming, I thought, okay, these high school girls have these, you know, boyfriends from for different countries and thirty, whatever, and it's gross and whatever
And then I saw someone posted the receipts of the legal cases. These were girls children, eight year olds, ten, whatever, being violated and beaten with baseball bats. They were complaining to police. The police said everything's fine. Like really graphic stuff and I'm like how stupid I was to think grooming meant what anyone else thinks of grooming. These were rape and torture gangs.
And then Elon saw my tweet and he blew a gasket and then they kinda talked about it in Parliament, so it was a great way to start twenty twenty five. But like where is it all going? You know what I mean? Like people are upset, but Kirsteimer's not in jail. Like he the things he's in trouble for aren't stuff like this. The entire Labour Party voted against further inquiry. It's like some of these guys got prison sentences, but they're not anywhere near proportionate. Why are they still in the UK?
I just don't understand it. I just don't understand like what what's the end game there. Right. Like what is like Right. If you were trying to destroy the UK, that's how you would do it. Bring in violent migrants, let them do violent crimes, don't prosecute. Prosecute them and prosecute people for complaining about it online. And don't uh bring them into your country and and kind of uh assimilate them. Right. Like encourage them to not assimilate. Yeah.
So I was just there in in August. It's bad as people think it is, it's even worse. Really? Not fun for the whole family. Not, you know, oh, this is educational. You're not gonna get murdered if you come see a play here. This sh th that really shouldn't be a selling point when you're going to the movies or the theater. Yeah. And it's only getting getting worse.
So it's it's it's n I don't and I don't s uh but here's the other thing. Let's talk about America, right? If you want to get rid of all these illegal immigrants, what is your mechanism? 'Cause what Trump is doing is too much, there's no al t the alternatives to make it difficult for them so they re migrate. But there's plenty of people who would I could certainly understand it. I'd rather be an illegal immigrant in America than go back to whatever hellhole.
Right. I found the video of talking about decimal meters. They were fucking around. It was a joke, okay. Groxes they were satirizing Uh paid protesters with the uh the the decipometers. Yeah, the decibel meters. That sounds ridiculous. Yeah, the whole thing was fucking. That makes sense.'Cause I was like, there's no way. There's no way they're giving people decibel meters. But that's also just clickbait. What would you do with the illegal immigrants?
It's a good question. You know, um the real problem is that they let ten million people plus in over the last four years. And That's the thing that no one wants to address. Like the only reason why there is this problem is because we had a fucking open border for four years where they actually encouraged people to come in and they let in a bunch of violent criminals and people have been killed, women have been raped.
Children have been killed. This is and they want to hide that data because they don't want to be held responsible for what they did over the last four. Um the fact that that doesn't get the kind of outrage that it should, but then an ICE protester shooting a guy who is armed. Do you know though what really is going on with the the gun community about that guy who got that Alex Prady guy? Right. Do you know the story?
Well I know that what's his name uh got fired correctly for saying, Well, you shouldn't bring guns to fight the police and all the two A people like, Are you crazy? The whole point of the two A's against the police. Right. But that guy wa so they disarmed him. He was carrying a SIG P three twenty. Okay. SIG P three twenties are notorious for accidentally discharging.
It appears, at least in videos that I've seen, and some people seem to verify this, that as one of the officers pulls the gun from him and walks away with it, it accidentally discharges. Okay. They think this guy has a gun still. Because they just pulled a gun from him. A gun went off. They think they're in a gunfight. Everything's happening split second. They empty on that guy. The two guys who killed him, both of them Mexicans.
Right. Did you see they look like village people. Did you not see them? I didn't see. Oh they look they showed their actual faces? Oh yeah, yeah. It's on my Twitter if you come back a few days, Jamie. They look like I said the village peop it looked straight up village people. But what's crazy is how many Latinos are in I
Why is that crazy? They trump got the Latino vote. Well it's not just that. It's like it's a really well paying job. Sure. And they give you a big bonus to sign. I think what is the bonus when you sign for ICE? I think it's like a great incentive. But here's the other thing. If there's a hospital, right, and there's a nurse who's killing patients, which happens that happens that you have these like black widow situations. No one's gonna say Shut down the hospital or stop medicine.
First degree murder, let's assume for the sake of argument, that doesn't mean you should abolish ICE. It just means that guy should go to jail. Look at this. Signing bonus fifty thousand dollars. Sixty thousand dollars in student loan repayment up to twenty five percent in premium pay. I don't know what that means. Probably overtime, maybe? Premium pay? Twenty five percent? What does that mean?
I don't know. But either way, just the fifty thousand dollar bonus, how many people are willing to take that job just for that? And then sixty thousand dollars in student loan paid off. And it's great on your resume. Yeah, well you get your student loans paid off and you get a fifty thousand dollar bonus. Holy shit. Right. You you can get a lot of people to do that. And job security. Yeah. And you can wear a mask. It seems like a job like
Macho guys would enjoy. Sure. And if you're desperate for work and if you can't find work and then all of a sudden this is like an answer to all your financial problems, a lot of people are gonna do it. So but again what's You're also like very undertrained. Like they only train for seven weeks. Is that right? Yeah. But what's the answer then?
No one has an answer. Right. That's a good question. Because yeah, well there are a lot of violent criminals in this country that did get in over the last four years that do need to be removed. So what are you gonna do? But what do you do about the nonviolent? Well here's the thing. Where they were saying only fourteen percent of these people that they've arrested are violent criminals. Okay. But
That that's what they didn't say is that sixty percent of the people that they arrested had criminal history. And when you say nonviolent, Nonviolent meaning what? What about strong arm robbery? What about a guy pulls a gun on you? That's is that how are you classified? I bet it's not if you don't cause violence. No. There's no way a c uh armed robbery isn't a violent crime. If you do not cause violence, I wonder if they're categorizing it as violent.
Like if you do not shoot someone, stab someone, beat someone, so you're not convicted of a violent crime, you're convicted of robbery. So if there's any opportunity where a gun is involved, that will be counted as gun violence. You know, I mean does that count? If you pull a knife on someone as the and you rob them, is that considered a violent crime? I bet you it is. I wonder. But either way.
w the misleading aspect of the article was that only forty percent were violent criminals. But is that okay that the other fucking Forty six percent are breaking into people's houses and robbing cars and what about that? But what about the forty percent who just shouldn't be here? Right. Like that's the question. Right. They all shouldn't be there. Right. So what are you gonna do?
Okay, so here it is. Four hundred thousand ICE arrests in Trump's first year. About sixty percent involved individuals with some criminal charges or convictions. However, only fourteen percent had violent crime records. including as homicide two thousand one hundred arrests, sexual assault five thousand four hundred, robbery twenty seven hundred. So robbery. Nearly forty percent lacked any criminal record detained for civil immigration violation.
Wait, can we skip ahead? Look this is how what's so shameless. Arrest for nonviolent issues like DUI. I'm sorry, if you're doing DUI you should be deported. Right. That is a violent crime. Well, you definitely cause death and destruction. Um drugs twenty two thousand, D UI thirty thousand, outnumber severe violent crimes. But yeah, but those are fucking bad crimes.
I don't I but I I think this kind of is a distraction from Yes. If you have ten million people and they're all house homemakers, like let's suppose they're the nicest people ever. Are you comfortable with them? Just remain And I don't think most people are. No. Then what do you do? Rand Paul thinks that you should allow them to stay but not give them citizenship.
See, if birthright citizenship went away, a lot of this would be solved. Right. Right. If like you can't you don't you're not eligible for welfare, you're not eligible for Medicaid, you could pay your taxes and income, but you're not getting the benefits. People can understand that argument maybe.
Especially if you are illegal and then you come here specifically to have a baby and then your baby could stay too. That's kinda crazy. That's a crazy law. It it's i I think we're the only country that has that too. Yeah. So China definitely doesn't. So well I mean no one's really b banging on the door for Chinese citizenship to be fair. That's true. Unless you're from North Korea. Aaron Powell Well uh I don't th I think one side is against it entirely and m many Republicans are don't
think it's worth you know kind of overturn our whole society get these ten million people out. So what's gonna I mean if we had If we had ten million Canadians come to America, that's not gonna change the country. Right. Right. Well especially ten million Canadians that could be violent criminals. Well, if you just have an open door. They're not gonna be violent. They're Canadians. There's violent. Not sure. Drinking maple syrup. Do you know about my uh my uh um enslaved Canada plan? No.
Okay. This this this this this is I wanna get the exact I have the exact numbers, hold on here. So there are wanna get this exactly right, forty one million Canadians. Okay. Okay. Now let's talk about reparations. Right. So if I wreck your truck And your truck is worth ten thousand dollars.
I gotta get you a brand new truck or ten thousand dollars. That's reparations is restored. Okay. How can you have reparations for something as horrific as slavery? A check's not gonna do it because there's no amount of money where I could say, What you know what, you own my grandma, it's fine, right? Right.
Forty one million Canadians, they've already demonstrated repeatedly that they don't want freedom through every action that they've taken. Forty two million African black Americans. So slavery in the South was a horrific blot on America's past. So the opposite, slavery in the North. We invade and enslave, hashtag enslave Canada, and every African American gets one Canadian and that's reparations. And then you never have to hear about slavery or racism again. What a great idea.
And the big names can get the big names. So like Michelle Obama can get Gad Sad, right? Barack Obama is not African American. He's African. You don't get one. Do you think that's real? The Kenyan thing? Well he's uh he's he was of African descent. He wasn't a his ancestors were never slaves. Right. So he does he does not do reparations. Right. In fact his ancestors owned slaves. And so did Kamala Harris's. Michelle Obama's ancestors weren't slaves. She gets gad. Sorry, Gad.
I'm not kidding. I think we should do it. It would solve Canada, it would solve a racism problem. Canada just needs to be free. Yeah. They need a better government up there. That's right. Liberate You know, can't Trump ruined that.
What do you mean with the him oh when he was saying they were gonna be our fifty first state, he like he killed the Conservative Party because then then everybody sort of united and said, Hey, we've gotta stop America from trying to turn us into the fifty first state. This Greenland thing. Okay. Let's talk about this.
Okay, because in I don't know if people know this. In the first term, uh what we're saying, Marie Frederickson, I think, is the prime minister of Denmark. They were gonna have a meeting. And Trump's like, We want Greenland and she's like, Oh you, you know, ha ha looking forward to s you know, meeting you, Mr President And on Twitter he cancels the meeting and goes, uh, since the Prime Minister doesn't know her place, we're gonna have to meet another time. And she's like,
What? Like what are you talking about? And now they're saying You could have Greenland to do anything you want. You wanna dig for the minerals? Please bring industry there. Nope, we need to own Greenland. And they don't know and I don't know what to make of his Someone I I I saw on social media thinks he must be on the spectrum.
'Cause he's so fixated on this thing that no one who's neurotypical has this kind of fixation. But what do you make of this whole Greenland thing? I don't understand it. Do you know they offered us Greenland in the nineteen twenties? Right. Okay, yeah. Yeah. But wasn't it too much money or something? Uh how much was it? How much do they offer us Greenland for?
But I don't blame them for being like, what is going on? It is crazy. Right. So Denmark owns Greenland. How who's closer? Denmark or the United States? Then we should have it. Why shouldn't Canada have it then? No, fuck them. Like I This is what it must be like in Denmark right now, where they're like, What do we say?
Okay, did not offer itself to the United States in the nineteen twenties. US expressed interest in acquiring or basing in Greenland during that decade, but no formal offer came from Denmark. I thought there was negotiation. That's what it's saying, yeah. Okay. A land swap idea. Okay. Um for the US Virgin Islands for twenty five million. The US bought the Danish West Indies, now US Virgin Islands, for twenty five million. What a deal.
Uh but affirm Danish sovereignty over Greenland, nineteen twenties US Army General Billy Mitchell advocated for American air bases on Greenland and Iceland to expand air power, viewing them as strategically vital amid advancing technology. No purchase or secession offer emerged from Denmark. U.S. interests remained internal military advocacy without diplomatic action from Copenhagen. We just gotta give him a swap. So in nineteen forty seven, go back to that?
Nineteen forty s uh six, uh President Truman proposed a hundred million in gold for Greenland, rejected by Denmark amid Cold War tensions. US gained defense rights via nineteen forty one agreement during World War Two occupation of Denmark. How interesting is that? Like we've been interested in Greenland forever. Oh, it's right there. That's ours. We should take it. Well yeah,'cause you have those straights on both sides.
But the thing is they're already saying you could do whatever you want. Like take a dump on it. We don't care. Like we're happy to you you to exploit it, please. And he's and he's like, Nope, we gotta own it. It's like, but why? I guess he got it in his head that he could make it happen. But it this is really like I don't the thing is they're getting freaked out in Europe, not because he's being this aggressive, I think. Not just, but also'cause it's like
What what are we missing like you and I, like what are we missing here? Like what about Greenland d would owning it change when you could do whatever you like, put more bases, we love it. Oh You've you hung out with him. What's he what's he li is he have a screw loose? It's hard to say, but
I mean I think anybody who wants to be president has a screw loose. Sure. And anybody who went through that guy what that guy did what what he went through over the last four years when Biden was in office where they were trying to lock him up. What about what he was president, what they went through? Yeah, the Russian gate stuff. Yeah, all that stuff. It's kind of crazy.
uh you would have to have a little bit of a screw rules and now I think he's on a victory lap for sure. But he also wants to get a lot of stuff done because he knows he only has one term, you know, and I think uh the Greenland thing, I I understand the strategic implications why you would want that.
But I don't understand why you wouldn't just like accept a deal. Right. Well we could have bases there and you're going to be able to do that. We have bases there already and we do whatever we want. Here's the other thing with here's this is the other one that I don't understand. We go to Venezuela. We basically teleport Maduro out. Right. Obviously there was some kind of inside information or whatever. Who knows?
And then everyone just stops talking about it. I know. It's just like Well the news cycle's crazy, right? What is going on in Venezuela? Did they change the government? I don't think they did. They didn't change the government but they got rid of the one guy that was a resistant And uh the the a lot of people like Kurt Metzger thinks that what's gonna happen is
During the trial they're gonna reveal that Maduro was involved in rigging the twenty twenty election. American twenty twenty? Yes.'Cause there is some sort of a connection with Venezuela and the twenty twenty election and the voting machine.
Wait, okay. I I love Kurt. I was one of two people at his birthday party. I when I say I love him, I mean ironically and non ironically, I think he's the best. I love him too. I I d don't see any route where they would need the um theater of a trial to release this sort of information. Right. I agree. But I I think that having him uh in America and making a deal with him, look bitch, we already kidnapped you, we killed all your guards.
I think he's I if I can get if I could pop if I could cur out Kurt Kurt, I would bet this I would bet a lot of m I would not be surprised, I'm not gonna bet that he's this is already a D. that they told him, either you come to jail with us, wink wink, or we'll take you out and he's like, You're not fine, I'll retire in America. That would make more sense to me.
They did some wild stuff over there. Like they used some sound weapon to like incapacitate everybody and they went in and executed them all. Right. And everybody was down. Like the people that are talking about it that were on the ground saying it was crazy. They shut off all the power. Right. They shut off all the radar systems.
And then all of sudden fucking helicopters, drones, everything was there. This sound weapon was used. Everybody was incapacitated. They came in gunned down. Like what how many people did they kill? I forget how many people killed. It was a hundred, wasn't it? But I thought it was very clear that we had some kind of inside information.
I'm sure we had that as well. Yeah, someone on the inside was like working with us in terms of where he is. I'm sure there was that as well. But there was this when I saw the photo of him getting arrested, I thought it was AI. 'Cause it looks so crazy and ridiculous. And if I went a year ago and said Trump's gonna arrest Maduro and I'm like arrest him for what? It's just it like I don't know what's real anymore. Right. There's an article from The Guardian uh from November twenty twenty four.
Uh okay. Trump's D.O. J investigating unfounded claims. Venezuela helps steal twenty twenty election. Like so how do you know it's unfounded until you investigate this is th these fuckers the Guardian's pretty bad with that kind of stuff. Yeah, they're gross.
I don't dab in conspiracy. So he does it he thinks it's bullshit? Well just I was just trying to have you read it'cause Yeah, he says I don't dabble in conspiracy theories. Mm sure you don't. You're in the CIA. Right. We don't dabble, we make'em. Uh okay. Who knows? This is what Kurt believes. This is not my theory.
Yeah, what is their accusation? Yeah, keep scrolling down. I'm not seeing there's nothing about what they did. Well, that would be contributing to the conspiracy theory. Yeah, I guess. Mr. Mouse. Yeah. They don't want to do that in The Guardian. Who knows? Is I I I mean I I I I still don't understand Right. We just got rid of one guy and kidnapped him. Right. And brought him to America. But like if you get rid of Trump
Vance becomes president, you're not changing the government at all. Right. So like what are we doing here? I don't know. I'm seeing these keywords that are pop up. Ballot receipts, people checking voter polls later that evening, people saying that that's not what I did. Right. The other question is what's going on with Iran?
Well it looks like we're about to go in. Are we? Are you sure? Well there's they're preparing. They but I mean that's always it's great great to shake your fist. So it's it's like w like it's I I I feel I feel like all of us are like looking around being like w what's What the fuck is going on? Yeah. Every day. Every day is what the fuck is going on. Right. And you're just trying to like live a normal life. Yes. Which is what everybody really wants, but they're preventing you from doing that.
constantly being assaulted by new information that scares the shit out of And it's also there's no context for us to understand this. Like we uh we understand the Saddam situation, right? You go in, you conquer a country, kill a lot of people, it's a nightmare bloodbath that was unnecessary, Saddam gets hanged. We know that story.
Like we're just gonna come in, pull out one guy who's the president and leave and his and his wife and everything will go back. It's just like I remember the Democrats were like, uh, what do we say to this? This has never happened before. Yeah. I'm just overwhelmed. I'm I this I think I share the feeling that most Americans
Where just every day you're like, what the fuck is going on? But I feel like it's escalating. Oh, wasn't this crazy during his first term? No, no, no. The world is escalating. Yes. What is this? Venezuelan oil gas Gets shipped to Israel for the first time in years. Oh boy. Yeah, that happened last week. So I as from I'm just looking up, we we assumed control of the country, I think, in some ways. Did we? Like we I think we got their oil, right?
Well that was the other thing that Trump said. What are we gonna do with the oil tanker? We're gonna keep it. Yeah. It's like what what? Like how do we get to do this? Like if you were They're sending the oil to Israel. Uh So Venezuela's saying it's fake. Venezuela plans to send its first shipment of crude oil to Israel in seventeen years part of opening up the country's exports following the US abduction of President Nicolas Maduro.
I don't know. Well Bloomberg's a rep quite yeah, but that's the one I couldn't. But it seems like it's the same story. First shipment to Israel. Well I think all they're saying is they've restored relations between Venezuela and the United States. Well they probably control relations now. I mean it's it's essentially the US is probably in control of their oil distribution. I think that's explicit, isn't it? Yeah. So
Still like the other thing, it's bringing in all these companies, they're all gonna do it. But apparently their oil is like very difficult to acquire. Yeah, they their oil is not like simple like Texas oil, dig a hole in the ground, pull it out. It's like it's all It it has to be processed with all these chemicals. It's apparently like the consistency of asphalt. Okay. And it has to be broken down.
It's very expensive. This is why uh was it the CEO of Exxon? One of the companies said that it would never work. Oh. Yeah, that the infrastructure's not in place. You know, and then Trump was upset at him for being a negative dancey. I I just I I uh I think any time you start the ch did you really?
Uh whenever you start talking about regime change, that's something that's very scary. Yeah. Hi historically. And always turns bad. Yeah. Like Libya and all these other places. Yeah. Iran. Iraq. Yeah. All right. So it's just like never good. Like yeah, but then at the same time we're like what what do we what do we do?
Like what's plan B? Gavin Newsom? You know what I mean? What's he gonna do? Senior Trump administration officials have vowed to maintain control over Venezuelan oil experts for an indefinite period. Indefinite weird in quote. Secretary of State Marco Rubio claiming that the Venezuelan acting government headed by Delcy Rodriguez needs to submit a budget request before accessing the country's oil proceeds. Whoa. So we just took over Venezuela essentially. Yeah. No, we just took over their oil.
Yeah, but also the country. No, but aren't the people still being oppressed as hell? Aaron Powell Yeah, but the government essentially is like we're running that government. I don't think we are though. We probably tell them what they can and can't do. No. I think that's the thing that they're still. Can I talk about something fun? I uh am finishing a project I've been working on for twenty five years. Whoa.
Yeah. So I'm excited to talk to you about it. So um there was this band from the eighties who were called Rubber Rodeo that combined punk Right. And I was looking at this compilation um that I got in nineteen ninety four. I sent Jamie the the And I was staring at this photo trying to make heads or tails of this band because can you pull it up? It it's it's you'll show you the photo, you'll see what I mean by it.'Cause there are a bunch of kids in these like kind of uh
square dancing uniforms with no affect on their face whatsoever. And the singer, she's in this Dolly Parton wig and this big square dancing dress staring right at the viewer. I'm like, are they joking? Like, what's up with these people? Um and I met them and they were art school kids. They were not joking. They were, there it is, that photo. So you see, I'm stare, I'm like, are they kidding? Are they not kidding? That her name is Trey.
Um And this is from the eighties? This is from the eighties. They got signed the same day as Bon Jovi by the same guy. And he said, I'm taking you both to number one. So I wrote a screenplay about them'cause it's kinda like a spinal tap story'cause they're on stage at Punk Club. doing jokes like, Hey Bob, I c I'm exhausted. Why are you exhausted, Bob? Oh, the couple at the next hotel room were up all night eating candy bars. Candy bars. Yeah, she kept yelling, Oh Henry, oh Henry.
Right. So it's this complete like what are you even doing here? Um, but the guy who did the keyboards for the band did the animation for American Splendor. And through him I met Harvey Picar, uh, who later wrote a book about me in two thousand six. Is he that guy that went nuts on Letterman? I I'm so glad you know who Harvey is. Yeah. So Harvey started the idea He's a comic book guy, right? Right. He started the idea of writing autobiographical comics in the seventies.
Um from off the streets of Cleveland, here comes American Splendor. It's an ironic title because his life was not exactly very splendid. He was a file clerk. kind of a miserable person. He hated being called a curmudgeon. Um and amazingly, when the f film came out in two thousand and was it two thousand, I think it was something like that. Two thousand and one. Um
The he flew back to New York to do Stern. And the producer of the film, Ted Hope, sent out an email that said, Harvey's in town with nothing to do. If you want to hang out with him, this is your chance. And I'm the only person who took him up. And I go there and he's on his bed and he uh l spoiler alert, he died in twenty ten on my birthday.
Not a fun email to get. Anyway, and he's like he's yeah, he's got this really weird way of talking. He's like, I'm really fucked up, man. And I pointed out to him, since everything in his life was a disaster, his movie got a wide release. the weekend of the blackout. There was this big fucking blackout. He's like, Oh, god damn it. And that was the weekend I had a fish tank and I'm trying to keep them alive with no electricity and it did not work out.
So he wrote a book about me uh and that screenplay fell by the wayside. But n because it's kinda like spinal tap. You know, it's this kind of funny story about you know when you're young and anyone out there who's listening to this when you're young, go for it. Be stupid. If you're gonna fail, it's okay. It's still something exciting to try and to do, which they certainly don't
Um and now I'm like, wait a minute, this converts to a graphic novel uh uh very easily. There's a guy named Eric July who has this whole kind of empire. He did a Kickstarter, he made like a million for his first It's called the Ripiverse. And now they're at a point where you don't have to go through DC or Marvel to produce your product. So I'm super excited about it. Again, I started this in two thousand. And now it's finally, twenty six years later coming to Unwanted book done.
All right. I'm just really kinda it's it's very intense this'cause here's the other thing. What I I I was at Golds and I had basically what was the opposite of a nervous breakdown where all the parts of my brain slid into place where I realized This story I wrote in two thousand and one, what happens if you do all these things, try to be original and go nowhere? Like those are my fears when I was starting out. What if I'm end up like them, have nothing
And twenty-five years later that experiment's been run, you know, I could pay my rent as a kind of creative person. And if they were around today they could probably pay their rent because this much easier as a band to kinda build an audience. But it's a very funny story, but it's also a very dark story.
And it's largely true. All right. So I'm just stoked that I guess. You ended on the happy note. Yeah. Thanks, buddy. Thank you. Always good to see you. Always a pleasure. Congratulations on the face pink.