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Well, then why do you think that the, why do you think the cities and states are so much different than? Well, cities are always going to be blue. It's normal. There's a lot of factors. One of them is you have massive populations of people, right? And when you have massive populations of people, the lot of times it's based around universities. Like Los Angeles is slightly different because Los Angeles has universities, but really it's like more around Hollywood, which is equally delusional.
But most big cities are flavored by a university. Like Austin is flavored by the University of Texas. Yeah, that's why Austin is progressive. Austin is, for people that don't know outside of Texas, Austin is one of the most progressive cities. Like if you look at, we voted in Austin, the city of Austin voted more for Kamala Harris than the city of Los Angeles did. Oh, wow, really? Higher percentage of Democrats voted for Kamala Harris than even Los Angeles.
Well, I think a lot, it seems like a lot of Democrats, I don't know like a ton about politics, but it seems like a lot of Democrats. Like it's, I understand a lot of the voting because it's hopeful voting. It's like wishful thinking. Well, they're, they're feeding off of narratives. Like you're a good person if you believe this, but the consequences are what they're ignoring. The pretending that the economy's in a great place. That's crazy. Talk to anybody who's broke.
Talk to anybody who's struggling to pay for bills and groceries. Talk to anybody who's trying to buy a car. The economy's bananas right now. It's sketchy, very sketchy. And a lot of it is, people are robbing each other on Facebook marketplace. A lot of it is recovering from COVID, I'm sure. A lot of it, I mean, there's probably a lot of blowback from that. I mean, they shut the whole fucking country down, which is just so nuts. That was insane, man.
I think that's one of the, like, but yeah, I mean, yeah, people are robbing each other on Facebook marketplace. My buddy was going to buy a couple walkie talkies off a guy, right? He gets fucking mugged, right? Yeah. He's going to buy a couple of, um, so he meets the guy to go get the walkie talkies and the guy mugs them. And it's like the seventh story I've heard, but it's like, you know, people are doing crime, you know, people are resorting to crime.
And that's when it's not good, I feel like, you know, well, not just that when people are resorting to crime. This administration did that I think is terrible. And this is a progressive liberal thing is that you have these DAs, these George Soros funded DAs that just let people out for violent crime. And get the no cash bail thing. And when there's no repercussions for crime, guess what? Crime goes way the fuck up.
Oh, yeah, if I'm a criminal and they're like, hey, it's crime time or whatever, I'm going to fucking put on my cleats or whatever. I'm going to get out there. No, you're going to go to jail and you're just going to get released. Yeah, it's like catch and release. It's almost like that, um, fishing rules or whatever. Like if you go trout fishing the lake. Yeah, you're a fly, you're a fly fisherman. You used to be a cop now you're a fly fisherman with bars. Nike's on the hook.
Yeah, you know what about there? Yeah, those fishermen, they use barbellies hooks. And then they let the fish go. I went fly fishing recently. Yeah, yeah, man. Do you have a good time? Yeah, you know what I did. I thought it was like, um, I mean, think about what I thought it was like, uh, it's the more sophisticated way to go fish. Yes, it was like, excuse me, fish. Yes, gentle cash. Yes, it was like, hey, it also requires a lot more skill. Well, it requires more patience. For sure.
You can't like, um, like if you have a kid or whatever you can't do it, like you, like if you're just fishing on the bank, you can have your kid and you can be sitting there smoking or whatever your kid likes to do, you know, but if you, if you're in that, you have to constantly be moving it, you know, it's very kind of like, um, it's kind of homoerotic, almost it's like, hey, fish or whatever. Yeah, it's like, hey, fish. I think so. Yeah, do you ever see those guys? Oh, more.
It's like, hey, fish. I'm over here. I'm over here, boy. Well, the least sophisticated form of fishing is like a bobber with a worm on it. Yeah, that's the least you throw it out there. But that's some of the most fun fishing because that bobber starts moving like, oh, shit. Yeah, oh, shit. I think we got one. Oh, shit. It's like jaws, all of a sudden. Fishing is so exciting.
Yeah, my grandma used to take us fishing, dude, and she would, she was like a malignant fisherman or whatever, and she would, um, yeah, like, she was like a staunch fisherman. Like, staunch. Like we're fishing, you know, aggressive. You better not fucking not fish, you know, she would kind of have that kind of behavior. Yes, she was very, you better fucking fish white boy, you know, she would kind of be like that. Yes, very aggressive, right? About fishing for little kids.
Yeah. And then we'd be quiet and look straight out and wait for the bobber, but she was really, she loved to fish. Did she love to eat fish? Yep. She liked to skin them and grill them and everything. Yeah. Yeah, it was cool. Mostly catfish, bullheads, we used to fish up in like spoon, river, up in like Illinois. Do you guys use like chicken liver for, yeah, we would get out there.
We'd have a little thermos full of chicken liver, you know, my grandfather would say anything and she fucking look at it. And he wouldn't talk for a month after that. She was the fisherman. She was. The Fisher woman. Yes, she was, she loved to fish. I think she liked, um, she liked catching her own meals. Even, you know, she didn't like to hunt, but she liked to fish. What's that fucking dude's name, the chubby dude that dressed up like the devil and everybody got mad. Is a singer? Sam?
What's that? Sam Smith. He's a Smith. Yeah. He said he wanted to be a Fisher them. Oh, God. Not a fisherman, a Fisher, a Fisher sheep, a Fisher them. Yeah, that's wild. Oh, the, the they them thing is the, that's the best evidence you need that people are other fucking minds. You can't be plural. You fucking idiot. Well, like the only thing I think it's like, it's almost this episode of the Joe Rogan experience is brought to you by Call of Duty.
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That's, you know, like, that's what I don't understand about the, it's just a way to be unique and it's a way to be in a marginalized community if you're just a regular person. So like if you're a regular white person, you're at the lower end of the social hierarchy amongst woke people. But if you're queer or non-binary, now you're in a protected group. My body's queer actually. Nice. What does he have to do to be queer?
He's cool, he just, he doesn't, he didn't like send you an email update or whatever. He's just, did the update his Twitter pronouns? No, he's just like a, just decides his queer. Yeah, he's like a secret. Not secret, he's like, he's just like a, or I don't even know what they call it, I got to look at the chart or whatever. What is queer these days? Because then I was a kid queer was gay. If someone was queer, they're gay or if you got punched in the head, then you're on queer street.
It was like everything was confusing, queer was confusing, and then queer became gay somewhere along the line. But now I think queer is whatever you want it to be. Yeah. You could be gay, bi, straight, and then you could be pansexual. What is that? Exactly. That's a way of radius. He's pansexual? He came out. No, he came out as pansexual. I don't know what that means. I can barely handle whatever I am, dude, to be real honest, bro. It's also new.
Whatever I am, bro, it keeps jerking off at night and being afraid to talk to women. So whatever that one is, that's what I am, bro. You're theosectual. It's fucking getting kinda heavy, man. You're theosectual. Why are you afraid to talk to the women? No, I don't know. I think I get afraid to, like, I've always got afraid to approach women, you know? But why? You're handsome fellow. You're funny. You're successful. I don't know. I think something I just, childhood shit.
Yeah, probably there's something, you know, just, yeah, like I just, I would just be so fucking nervous, buddy. You know, when I was a kid, I would be so nervous. Hmm. I would, yeah, I would be so nervous. Which is interesting that you got to understand the comedy, which makes people really fucking nervous. Well, I think I was familiar with being nervous. So that didn't affect me. Oh, interesting, because you're nervous all the time. You're like, fuck it.
I'll just go be nervous in front of all these people. Oh, the audience is the, when you're on stage, the audience is just a woman. Oh, like you're just trying to get them like you. You're just trying to get, yeah, you're like, how do we get this to work out, you know? I'm not gonna get you to like me more. Who do I have to be? The other night was crazy. Sorry, I cut you all cold. Oh, no, go ahead. I got nothing, man. It's just the other night was crazy. This week's been crazy.
It's just been a crazy week. Yeah. You know, it's been a crazy week, man. It was interesting because the beginning of the night, no one knew what was gonna happen. So you're watching the first results roll in and it's like this weird thing. And then Trump gets way ahead, but you're like, you don't want to like get to hopeful. I'm like, how far ahead is he? He's like, I had my hundred points. That seems like a lot. Yeah, and you're like, what is it?
And some channels are like, and then every channel is kind of different. Yeah, they had different numbers. I was getting a different number of my Apple news update than I was getting off of CNN. And then I was texting people like Tulsi and JD Vance. I was getting a different apparently. Elon created an app and he knew who won four hours before the results. So as the results were coming in before four hours before they called it, Dana White told me Elon was like, I'm leaving. It's over.
Don't want. He just fucking. He just fucking some hour or another. I'm gonna go back into my pod and the vet. I don't know what he's getting where he's pulling his data from, but he had like the most accurate data in terms of the rural states hadn't put the results in yet, but yet Trump was ahead in these states. The combo is never gonna win those states. So tabulated that and put it all together. I don't know how he did it. But Dana took, I don't even, I haven't even talked to Elon about this.
I don't know like the Dana translation, but Dana said he had an app and he was like showing him. He's like, it's over. It's over. It's over. John Jones won. He's just fucking left. Dude, yeah. I mean, the whole thing's crazy. I'm so happy for my biggest thing was I was so happy for Bobby Kennedy, man. Because he's the only person that I super know like as a human, you know? He's been a buddy of mine for years. And I've just known that he's a, like I trust him.
It's almost like you have people that you know and that are good people. It's like, I have to trust my own instincts at some point and know, I know him. You know, he's a, he's a, somebody I would vouch for. Right. You know, he's a good guy and he's been helpful to me like in, in moments where I have as, have struggled as a person and just been inspirational to me. You know, it's like, I know him. You know, like a friend.
And so, so that's, I think like that was something I was like super excited about. Just to see where everybody was like screw this guy, you know? And to see him have a arc where it's like, because all he ever cared about to me, and I don't know, this is just my opinions, dude. Some people, everybody has run opinions and I'm an idiot, but, but he, he always cared about like the rivers and the environment, you know? And then he started to care about the environment inside of our bodies, right?
So for me, that all makes sense, right? And so like, we know what all happened. I was super, like that was, I was super excited about it. You know how he made the transition to being worried about pharmaceutical drugs? He would give these speeches and he, he litigated a bunch of lawsuits against corporations that were polluting rivers. They cleaned up these river, like he was an environmental attorney and they were also talking about the effects of mercury poisoning in the soil and water.
And these women kept coming to these things that he was doing and saying you need to investigate mercury and vaccines. And you know, he thought like that is like, which most people think you hear vaccine like the last thing I want to be labeled is a vaccine skeptic. Jesus Christ, a vaccine denier. That's like, maybe we talked about this yesterday, but it's like Holocaust denier number one, but vaccine denier and election denier are like right under there.
Yeah. And he started looking into it, particularly the MMR vaccines and, and the correlation between the uptick of all these autoimmune issues, autism spectrum disorders, all these different things that coincided directly with the increase in the vaccine schedule for kids. And so then he starts doing research on it. And the more he does research on it, the more it gets uncovered that there's this gigantic machine that's protecting all of this because there's so much money that's being generated.
And most of it has to do with during the Reagan administration, they, they gave them immunity to prosecution. So they couldn't, they were no longer liable for whatever side effects of vaccines came. Yeah, that's, that's pretty wild. Yeah. And then of course these motherfuckers started giving little kids, little babies that were just born, hep B vaccine, like what are you doing? Like that's a, you get that from needles and sex.
Yeah. Unless it came Anderson's baby, dude, I wouldn't know if I don't even know if he has any kids or not. And I love Tommy Lee, so I shouldn't have said. Yeah. Yeah. That's a joke. What are you going to do? It's a fucking joke. Yeah. Sorry. Everything's okay. I feel the same way about Bobby. I don't know him as well as I know Tulsi though. Tulsi is, yeah. I don't know her. Tulsi is a good friend of mine. I love her. She's great. She's awesome person. She's like a legitimate awesome person.
You know, that lady, she served as a congresswoman for eight years. And the whole time she was like, she was against this divide of right versus left. She was always trying to be cool with everybody. She served overseas. She was deployed overseas in a medical unit, man. So she was helping people that got blown up by the war twice. That's where she got that crazy white streak in her hair. That all came from the stress of being overseas working in a medical unit.
Wow. Yeah. Yeah, I guess it can stress be that compartmentalized inside of you and it comes out like that. Yeah. Your body's, you can't imagine. You know, I was just talking to my friend Bruce about this last night. He was a cop in Austin. We were talking about the amount of death that most police officers see and the stress that has on you. And what he was telling me is you take like a cop that has like 20 years in the job.
What they see is probably 10 X what the average soldier who's deployed sees. Because you're seeing murder all the time. You're seeing car accidents all the time, suicide all the time, domestic violence all the time. You're pulling people over. You never know if you're going to get shot. He goes, most of these guys are fucked up because they just constantly seeing this stuff constantly. Oh, yeah. I'd be at home out here. Somebody opened a jar of prangles and I'd fucking pull on them, you know?
Yeah. Here's that top part. Yeah. What's going on? Dude, we had a police officer on a few years ago or about a year ago. Can you look this up? Jamie's a kid asked him to look something. Yeah, sure. Okay. It's a police officer. How long ago? Yes. This guy, retired police officer, Sergeant Brad White. This guy was super unique. He lived in Los Angeles. But he told this story. He was, he didn't have any political thoughts. He just told stories of what it was like being a police officer.
And he told the story of his first day on the job. They're chasing a guy. The guy runs in the traffic, gets hit by a vehicle and kills. So even as it's just a human being, like you're just doing a job. But then you're like trying to compartmentalize or how do you know what effect did I have on this? What are my, you know, like, he told this story of a mother he called and said that her son was thinking about committing suicide, right? The mother meets him in the yard. He shows up.
He's a police officer. It's in, outside of Los Angeles, I think in the Wittier Police Department, I could be wrong. He shows up. The mom meets him outside. They see the son comes into the doorway, right? It's like a glass door with another door behind it kind of takes his own life, right? Right. Kills himself right in front of them. So now he's standing there with the mom. Oh my God. Now he has to go, he has to go, he has to console the mother. Then go inside of the home. He walks inside.
The door won't open because the man's body is there, right? It's he's having trouble getting it open, even just that moment. He gets it open. Something falls off of the ceiling down the back of his shirt and it's part of the guy, his brain matter. He had shot himself on the scene. So I know that's graphic and stuff. And then for the next three or four hours he has to take care of this scene with this little feeling between his bat wings, whatever that what is that? Will it prove vest?
No, inside of your bottle. Shoulder blades. Yeah. It's brain matter. Yeah. And it's just like, that's just a regular guy, you know, he might not even have finished college or something, you know, it's like, so just the baffling amount of stuff that police go through. Anyway, I was trying to just like, those are stories that stuck with me when I spoke with that guy. It was like unbelievable. It's just conveniently ignored by most people who will never be police officers.
And then that was one of the more offensive things about the George Floyd thing, all this defund the police shit where people rose up and were saying, defund the police. I mean, defund the police and Kamala Harris was one of them. She was out there tweeting defund the police. And because of that, crime just ramped up in certain communities and so many people wanted the police back. But then it's, you know, it's a long process to try to, and to this day, most of these cops don't have good morale.
They still have this feeling of defund the police was just a couple of years ago. Yeah. It's hard to get people to be cops now. They don't want that fucking job. And why would they? It's a fucking hard job. Yeah. And they don't even, I think the highlight, like they usually, they used to play like softball in our area against like the fire department.
That was like the highlight of it, you know, it was like having like competition, you know, but I don't even, like if you defund them, they're not even super funded. You don't ever see a cop with like a boat or saying, like you don't a ball or cop. Yeah. You see a fucking, yeah. If you think about how hard that job is, like hard jobs should pay more. Yeah. You know, like what is the, I think if you paid them too much, though, then they just quit. Like I got it off. I'm out.
Yeah. I don't have to be tall because like what's harder be it a rapper, be it a cop. It's fucking way harder be the cop. Oh, yeah. I think yeah, because the rappers get paid way more. That's true. Cops just, I think a lot of cops will start making albums for cops. Yeah. But there really should be some, there should be a great producer that goes on a ride along with a police officer. This is going to happen, watch and makes a dope track with a cop. Right. Right.
And you could make a dope need of so much great visuals. Right. And the proceeds go towards supporting the police department. Yeah. Like the cop could like be saying shit from behind the wheel. You can sample that. Yeah. Sample that and turn it into songs. We got them. In pursuit, different codes, different codes, 5150. Is that when someone's crazy? Oh, yeah. That's crazy right there. That's 50. I think 44. Look at this. This is cop rap. What is this?
I'm a great rapper, Sacramento Police Officer, records, duplament, recruitment video. Pull them up man. Um, no. No. No. Yeah, I mean, I just figured they could have already been one. What's at 5150? What do you do to be a Grammy nominated? Grammy nominated doesn't impress me. Like Grammy winning that impress me. Grammy nominated? Do my Grammy nominated you. Yeah. My Grammy nominated anybody. She liked Traveling Wheelbarris. You didn't?
I mean, I didn't, I mean, if my grandfather showed up and said, hey, they're good, I respect that. A little bit more, but that's just me, you know, Laney Wilson, I love. She's great. Red Clay Stray, Stephen Wilson Jr. Red Clay Stray is a great. They're good, huh? Yeah. There's good music out now. It's a good time for music because like you could find things so easily, you know, you don't have to wait for the radio. You just find stuff. People send you stuff like in the green room all the time.
Someone will play something like, what is this? Shazamit? Like, oh, shit. It's nice. That shazam thing, that feature is so huge. Yeah. You know what? Google Pixel phones. There's an option to just have it on all the time. So anytime a song is playing, you can look down on your phone or tell you what song is playing. I didn't know it. They still do that. I think that's still a feature. I think it's only on the Google Pixel. Um, what was that thing? I feel all over the place today, yeah.
You ever feel like that? Oh, yeah. Like, you open your life. I haven't seen sleep well two days in a row. I didn't sleep the night of the election. I could not sleep. I got home. I was wired and I jerk off or nothing. No, just sat in front of the TV. I was watching professional pool sitting in front of the TV. I called Dave Smith, me and Dave Smith talked on the phone at like 3 30 in the morning. Yeah. And then I finally went to bed and my wife woke up. She was like, what happened? Who won?
I was like, Trump won in a landslide. You're like the spurs. And she was like, it was a landslide. Like it was a crazy landslide. It was the red wave that everybody thought was going to happen in 2022. Hey, Jamie, I'm here and more and more about what we talked about yesterday, about the amount of people that voted for Biden in 2020 versus the amount of people that voted for anybody in 2016 and for anybody in 2024 that they're still saying it was a giant jump. That's, that's what I see too.
A lot of people think it's bullshit. A lot of people that are getting super suspicious about the 2020 numbers because Biden got more votes than anybody by like 20 million. It's really crazy. If you look at the chart, well, did, yeah, did they say that the most people they'd ever seen at voting stations were this year? Yeah. That's what I don't know what the visual report is for this year. But then I get this is the most consequence of election I think I've ever felt. For sure.
The way people felt about it too, the people on the left thought they were convinced that Hitler was coming. They're convinced that some right wing authoritarians going to come down and take away all your rights and well, that's a meat. That's a, that's the media does that 100%. But 100%. Not what he was saying, not what he did for four years in office.
It's all the media and we're all victim of it a little bit because you won't defend him or support him if you hear all these things about him because then you're, you got to defend the fact that no, he didn't really do that. He's not really a felon. There were only misdemeanors. Texas voter turnout falls in 2024 election despite record registration numbers. It does just Texas, right? 61% cast ballots near 6% drop from the 2020 presidential race.
But the difference in the numbers nationwide is what I'm interested in because the nationwide numbers were pretty consistent like through the entire, like if you look at 2012, it's consistent with 2016, which is also consistent with 2024. The anomaly is 2020. In 2020, everything goes way up. Way up. Maybe because people were sitting home and so bored and they said it's that much to do you think? Could be because it was during COVID.
Could be they, there are a lot of people weren't working so they did have the opportunity to vote. The voting should be a national holiday. I agree. I don't understand. It's crazy that you give some people a complication like imagine if you have a shithead boss, I got a vote. Why did you vote early? I was working for you, piece of shit. Let me go. Let me go vote. Yeah. I mean, they give Christopher Columbus a holiday, dude. The lieutenant Dan of the 1400s. That dude gets a fucking holiday, okay?
Yeah, why don't you go read it with that guy? Let's get rid of Christopher Columbus. They trained it to Injiginous People's Day. And the indigenous people like, thanks, after you wiped out 90% of us. Thanks for giving us a day. How about we keep that day? That's fine. But how about we have an election, national election holiday? We could do it one more holiday. Celebrate it. It's a great day. People can rejoice. And then I can take a lot of stress off people too.
It's like today's also a day of celebration. It's not this day that I have to sneak away from work and be sneaky or whatever. You should have a paid car. It should have be a paid holiday. You should expect to have to pay your employees on the day the election comes because everybody should be able to go vote. That's what you should be. We should make sure we talk to Trump about it, making a nationally mandated holiday. I don't have his number. I don't know.
I mean, there's a guy in his department. I have his number. We could hook it up. I know some people. Yeah, dude, it was just what a, I mean, just like what a crazy week. Yeah, very crazy. Well, you were one of the first guys to have him on the podcast. Did you have any hesitancy having him on at all? My brother actually, my brother's, my brother's a lot smarter than me. He said, Hey, man, I just want you to think that there could be some reflection from people if you have him on, right?
Like you could, some people could be upset about it. Right. And I thought about that a little bit and I was like, well, I don't really, like, I don't know, you know, like, I have political thoughts and beliefs and stuff like that. And it's like, it's hard to find a group that really embodies them. And if anything, right now for me, it seems like I don't even feel like these new parties are the same as the old parties. It doesn't see like, this isn't Democrats and Republicans.
There's something else that trains morphing right now. And so I thought like this episode is brought to you by Red One. You know, around Christmas, I love getting the time to watch my favorite action movies and comedies. It's kind of my thing. That's why I'm pumped to tell you about Red One. This isn't your typical Christmas flick. It's got Dwayne, the rock Johnson, Chris Evans and JK Simmons. Yeah, Santa's ripped and the whole thing is hilarious and packed with action.
The rock and Evans teaming up to save Christmas. Amen. It's hitting theaters November 15th. So don't miss it. Get your tickets at redonemovie.com. I thought, well, I think I'm, I just want to be able to have a chance to talk to this guy, you know? And the main thing for me was like, like you talked about Dana White earlier, he's really, you know, I know that you guys work together and he, you know, I knew that Trump's brother suffered from addiction, right? I knew that, right?
I heard that or something and I looked at him and it was like, okay, he lost his brother, his brother died of addiction. So I was like, well, that's interesting to me, you know? And I wish that people, I wonder if there's more to Donald Trump, like is there more of a way to talk with him about something that means, you know, try to get an emotional well, like more of an emotional well to him than it seems like that's in the public.
Well, there was a thing that was going on for a while where you were platforming people. This was the idea. Like if you had on a guy like Trump, you were platforming this bad person. This was this thing. Yeah, I didn't think about that at all. But it's a, it's, it's an authoritarian way to regulate conversations that let you know more about people and it's stupid because people don't want to have a nuanced perspective on anybody.
Look, I'm, this is one of the reasons why I wanted to talk to Kamala Harris. I'm like, I bet there's a person in there. I bet I can get to that person. Yeah. I wanted to find that person. I didn't want to hear all the speeches. I don't want to hear, I was raised middle class. I don't hear any of that shit. She's a roller skater. You know that? No, I would love to find out. Yeah. I would love to talk to her about all kinds of shit.
I would, I literally said, like, because there was a few restrictions of things that didn't want to talk about. But I said, I don't give a fuck. I go get her in here. Like whatever you want to talk about. And they want to know if I edit, like there's no going to be any editing. There's no editing. Yeah. We're not going to edit. But yeah, that's the same thing. Man, is there an edit, you know? I just wanted to talk.
I just like, I feel like you give someone a couple of hours and you talk, talking about anything. I'm going to see the pattern of the way you think. I'm going to see the way you process ideas. I'm going to see whether or not you're calculated or whether you're just free. Yeah. I'm comfortable with you or do you, are you projecting things? Like she's got 80 different accents. How do you decide which one to pull out? Yeah. She busts out different accents depending on who she's talking to.
They should have made her talk to a bunch of Chinese folks. I would have loved to heard that accent. I want to see what you know. I do that too though. I like to meet people where they're at. You know? I'll be like, what's happening with my friend, you know? I like to meet people where they are, you know? Yeah, she did one with Latinos. We should talk with a Latino accent like this is wild. But she's a chameleon. But if you want to be a successful politician, that's probably a good trait.
I agree. You know? It's like a comedian that's always on. They kind of get ennooring. But if you want to be a comedian, that's probably a good trait. You want to be a politician, you should probably be able to melt into your environment and sort of meld yourself with whatever these people want you to be. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I mean, maybe not.
I always feel like the environment of debates, the environment of interviews on television, the environment of anything you're doing in front of an audience, it's so fake. It's such a weird way to talk that you don't get a sense of who the person is. So like when I got to see Trump on your podcast and you were talking about to a cocaine, then it makes like an owl. Oh god. It was hilarious. It was hilarious.
I was like, you got a chance to see that guy as a person trying to figure out like, who is this psycho? I'm sitting there talking to. I remember that shit. I fucking make a nest in my living room. Dude, that shit boy. You fucking, I'll scoot over the neighbors and steal some twine in my beak. Oh, there's nothing worse than being locked out of your place on cocaine, man. Like only man does.
You talking to him like as a person is like almost more valuable than any other kind of speeches he does because when he's in front of everybody talking to him, we're going to make America amazing. Those are great speeches, but you don't like she had an amazing speech. When I was like, she could win was when she had that one speech about Donald Trump, like scared to debate her. He says all these things, but you know what?
What I always heard, if you want to say something, say it to my face and the whole place went crazy and she was laughing. I didn't see that. Oh, so good. It was her best speech for sure. And it was right when they decided that she was going to run for president. Maybe that if it was a Biden step down and she had one banger of a speech. She looked young and energetic and like it really made you feel like she's going to be a kid. She's hot. She's got younger. She was a smoke show. She still are.
She got that bang on her out there. You know what I'm saying? I do know you were saying that's why it's so crazy. And because a lot of brothers love her too. Everybody seems to love her. Look at the brothers like it. She got that bang on her. That's all I was saying. You know, yeah. So much saying. But like that one speech was almost enough for her to win.
And if she just didn't talk other than speeches, but they would have done, they needed to do a better job with the speeches because every speech was the same. And the problem with that is we were talking about this like the internet. You get to see that speech over and over and over and online. And then people make compilations of speech. Right. And the same thing. But it's like if someone goes to see your act, you know, they don't understand like acts like to develop a bit.
It takes months and months and months to really like put it together where it's like rock sound. And you're going to do it the same way or slightly different every night. And if someone comes to see you and goes, the oh so full of shit man, he told us the other day that it was just the other day. Yeah. But meanwhile, he said it three weeks later. It wasn't just the other day. It was three fucking weeks ago. You just you're repeating the same shit.
Yeah. You got too many leap years white boy shit like that. Exactly. So that's what they feel about like a presidential candidate that's telling the same speech over and over. Well, hey, you're not supposed to go see all those speeches. But yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, but the thing is like you're following the grateful dead here. Trump's like, but Trump has a lot though. Trump has a lot that are repetitive. He does, but not in the same order. It's like going to see a grateful dead show.
It's like it's all over the place. You know, he's when Trump gets out there, he just does tugging. Did you see he even accepted here this long winded speech about the rocket? That was a new rocket. I'm like, you just won the president's head. Yeah, edit that down. You get that down. That could be two minutes. Beautiful. I was I was worried about that in the very beginning of the podcast before we got cooking when he was talking about Lincoln's bedroom.
I was like, oh boy, like where's this going? I went. I've been to Lincoln's bedroom. How was it? Uh, it was okay. I think you can bring it up actually. It's in Springfield, Illinois. Oh, it is. No, he was talking about the one that's in the White House. Oh, no, I've been to just his child before he got elected. He was childhood home. Oh, wow. It's really interesting. He's to keep his notes in his hat. Oh, that was a good move. Pretty cool. A big ass hat. That head wallet, baby head.
That's a good move. It's like credit cards behind your phone. I got a thing except if you move your phone, you lose everything. But you ain't losing that big ass hat. That hat was bugging. A little long, dude. It had crazy men. You ever see like how many dudes wore like fancy hats back in the day? That shit just went away. Imagine if you were a kid and you're growing up in a hat family. Your like, our family makes hats, bro. I'm born forever.
Yeah. I'm going to take over this business and then no hats. If you watch, there's a great outside boxing match in Reno, Nevada between Jack Johnson and I think it's Jim Jeffries. And I think this is Jim Jeffries? Yes. Not that guy. Another one. Not that. Not the comedian. Not talking about the murderer. No. Maybe. I don't think so. I think it's just a boxer. Who was it? James Jeffries. You see Jack Johnson versus this is it. Who killed the people with that? Who laid the right?
There's a video of all these folks that are walking like to the event and every man has a fucking hat on, dude. They all have hats. Look, they all have fancy hats. Look at all these guys. They're taking off their hats, waving their hats. Men left the house with a fucking hat on. Look at this. Wow. Dude, they all have these fancy hats. What happened? They're all dressed up nice with fancy hats. Look at this wall.
Good luck seeing anything outside the Republican National Convention of that many people on the streets dressed up in suits. That's it. The only time you're going to see this. These are like regular men walking on the streets. Everybody had fancy hats on and a nice button up shirt and a suit jacket. That's Jim Jeffries right there. Oh, those guys are good, dude. That's Jim Brock. That's John L. Sullivan. No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got from a, um, that's they got from a novel, too.
He was right there. He was a bare knuckle boxer back in the Dizae. So, uh, and he was still famous back then. Wow, look at him putting it all together. That's so cool. And that cool. So they built this outdoor stadium to watch Jack Johnson beat the fuck out of Jim Jeffries. Oh, that's how it goes. Jim Jeffries is trying to make it come back. He was a little bit older. Back then, Brown boxing would go until someone died. Yeah. They would have, I mean, what's the most rounds they had back then?
They were crazy. It was like 80 rounds or something. Like, what's the longest old school boxing match ever, Jamie? I think they had some insane amount of rounds. I think good question. Look at this. The greatest number of rounds was 276 in a four hour and 30 minute fight when Jack Jones beat Pat C. Toney and Cheshire in 1825. Holy fuck, dude. And we introduced an 1867 each round of a fight with last until someone was knocked down. Oh my God. Wow. Bro, 276 rounds is so crazy.
That's when you get all your CTE in an IV bag. You have to. You have to burn it so gone right there. It is your CTE just hot pumped into your fucking brain. I'm just joking. 110, I guess. Oh my God. At New Orleans, that's where it was. In 18, well, he lived to 94. He lived to 1867. Oh, these are the, oh, because in 1893, it lasted 110 rounds. Oh my God. Seven hours and 19 minutes. It was declared a no contest, later changed to a draw.
Dude, most people couldn't go that long without even looking at their phone, dude. Yeah, seven hours. How many of you have to take a shit? You're in the middle of a 200 round fight. You have to take a shit. They should have a diaper round. We have to fight and shit at the same time. I would bet it affect your punching power if you just swaddled around. Of course. Dude, I don't think there's a way you can shit and punch at the same time. It would be very hard. Very hard. Look that up. Very hard.
Because yeah, think about it. Yeah. You need to tighten all that up. Yeah. You're going to throw a good punch like your ass cheeks tighten because you've kind of used your legs as you thrust forward. You really can't shit and punch not effectively. Yeah, we cracked the code, bro. Yeah, we cracked the code. You're going to lose that round. So I guess they probably just pissed themselves. I know guys who've shit themselves in the UFC. Multiple guys. Yeah. I break some heart.
I believe Tim Sylvie has shit himself in a fight once. Who else? Someone came out there. Michael Chiesa looked over at me once while I was doing commentary. And I think he got called. It was perhaps one of those situations where the fight before ended quicker so he didn't get as much warm up times he wanted. Yeah. And then also he's running out there and he looked at me. He goes, dude, I'm about to shit my pants. I go, really? He goes, yeah, I'm about to shit my pants.
And he went out there and won first round submission. Because he had to. Because he had to. Yeah. Dude, there's another. So is this the fight? Oh, is this another guy who shit his pants? A five-fighter. He's a five-fighter. He'll poop their shorts. Yeah, it happens, dude. This guy shit himself a little bit. Dude, I would shit myself if I had to go in there. So that's crazy. Tim Sylvie would definitely shit himself. Random and shit himself. Yeah. It happens, man. Look, you're getting.
Oh, I'm not dead. I live her pounded on. You're getting need in the guts. I'm gonna have to win that one. Oh, I got a car accident once and it happened. You should shut yourself. I didn't want to. I didn't have a choice. It just happened. It wanted to. She shit her pants, too. He's a 14-kitching. Congratulations. I bet dudes would pay a lot of money for that, on only fans. You sell them shitty drawers. And that's Mark Goddard right there. Call time out, brother. Yeah, just definitely that.
Oh, that's what it is. That's the poop. Oh no! Imagine if you're like face down if someone's putting in a rear naked choke, and they didn't clean the mats that good and the person before shit all over the place. You get pink eye? Why are you getting your ass kicked? God. That makes me scared. Yeah, that's a scary job. That's the scariest job. You think yeah, I went to that fight with you or no I went to that fight remember me and Joey Diaz went which one in New York? Oh
It was oh I was thinking of your fighters. Well, I went saw the James J Braddock statue before or it was in New Jersey before Dustin and That last fight that he had No, the one before the last fight Justin Gachi that was in no after that It was in New Jersey. Okay, that's yeah, yeah, Ben was in Dene. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no no Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he beat up Ben was in the knee knocked him out That was after he lost his long
Right, which one was in Jersey is long. He didn't beat he didn't beat him. Islam in Jersey, right? Right, right, so he fought Ben was in Dene than he gets a title shot against Islam Yeah, I went with Joey will he stand I went to the arm James a Braddock statue before It was awesome dude his arms of monster. He's so good. Yeah, it was crazy and Joey was like what do it dude? He was
This is all love dude. He's the fucking tremendous He's one of a kind and his book is great too if you ever read his book, but He's sitting there. He been eating Mushroom, you know, and once even it's already eaten a little you could see Aaron Rogers start to look over you know He was canceling. He knows like it would have happened, you know By the sixth quarter whatever I don't know how the fights go, but it's like by the sixth quarter He's just rubbing on his thighs He goes who's winning dog
What do you have say to me? Oh, I can't wait to see him Joey used to shovel snow for James J. Braddock Really? Yeah, wow that's crazy for my favorite things that I ever learned about him. That's crazy Can you imagine that that is crazy? What else is going on I'm gonna see him in a couple weeks. He's coming out here
Joey is gonna start staying out here for months at a time. Yeah, he wants to get a place downtown either club Me, Joe, I'm gonna come back and looking about a week and a half Every time he comes like I got to come out of your dog I'm like come on. We'll make it easy for you. I'm like we'll make it easy for you You tell me when you want to come you come will fly you out, put you up
Whatever you want. I'll get you real estate lady. Let's get the party started And I'm trying to bring back the church of what's happening now because him and Lisa yet they were together when they were at the club together
And I'm like come on. Let's get the band back together. You guys together. We're fucking amazing. There was nothing like that show kept people alive that show Joey Diaz's show was one of the most ridiculous silly preposter shows It was so ridiculous and then he went to New Jersey and Here's a problem with the Joey in New Jersey
He loves New Jersey. He loves New Jersey people. He needs comedians and you Forget that until you're not with them and then you're like, oh, this ain't no fun He's talking to plumbers or whoever's got a decent attitude or whatever, you know decent stuff I like talking to all kinds of people. Yeah, obviously, but I need comedians in my life like I need vitamins Like I need a certain amount of sunlight to get some vitamin D. I need I need comedians
It's to like that night that we had in that green room watching the elections. How many jokes were crack? How many fucking times we rag on Tony oh dude? We talked Tony off the ledge. We did it Tony's like got statistics 26% more Puerto Ricans voted for Trump Oh, he had the Puerto Rican app open up open on his whoop brace I'm like they have that what is that brother?
He was like how many plantains have sold tonight. He was fucking losing his mind. They were trying to label him as a speaker He said he was a speaker a speaker that was at the Trump rally He said the Puerto Rico was a pilot garbage. These are human beings Was that Adam right?
The sovama. Oh, it is a speaker. Yeah, those are the Trump rally He was talking about Puerto Rico as a pilot garbage The simple fact that Obama's talking about Tony and Tony is crazy Bro, Obama's doing a Tony and cliff bit There's a video of us at the mother's show It's going we played it yesterday, but I want to play it again Jamie play the video I it's on my Instagram of Tony is on stage in the main road by the way Tony goes on stage. It's like Richard prior to showed up
Yeah, they were going nuts. He murdered. He has 35 minutes on it. Oh, he's on stage No way at the same time same time
We're definitely a simulation. My god. So this guy was on Fox talking about Tony on one TV While Tony was on stage on the TV monitor That's unbullied We did it He was so nervous because here's what was gonna happen if he lost You know, so the way these news organizations work they have outlines for stories if Kamala wins They have outs outlines for stories if Trump wins if if Trump lost they were gonna blame it on Tony
Mm-hmm, they had stories where they're gonna blame it on that joke and they were gonna say that that joke turn the tides And maybe people realize the Trump organizations filled with Nazis and racists and and they were gonna blame Tony and Tony would have been fucked Because then the Trump supporters would have thought that too right so it was like both sides would have just like Tony
Absolutely, absolutely. He would have to go to Puerto Rico or Costa Rica maybe Mexico Mexico is in Mexico and Puerto Ricans don't really No, they don't even they don't get along that was and fighting this. Oh, he's been a giant rivalry between Mexicans and Puerto Ricans and a lot of really yeah Yeah, oh, yeah, man for sure. I didn't know that well, you know
There's no prouder group of boxers. I think in the history of earth and Mexican boxers Oh, yeah, Mexican boxes are known for a specific style like if someone says you fight like a Mexican dude That's a huge compliment. Yeah Mexicans like Julio Sais or Chavez, you know, fucking Canelo Alvarez Oscar de la Hoya you mean you can go down the line, you know, Morales
Fuck man, there's so many Manuel Marquez. Yeah, so many men So they got so many punches in one punch Well, they just is there's a culture of boxing there that goes back so far and
And it's so you know and with boxing. It's always people that are poor that want to weigh out and one of the best ways out If you're a poor young man punch your way out you can you can make millions like Canelo like Julio Sais or Chavez like So it's like the the history of people rising through boxing, but there's a similar history in Puerto Rico Puerto Rico has a history a great history of boxing too really there was always a rivalry between Mexico and Puerto Rico
I could see that because you're both Latino cultures and you want to be the best, you know, oh, yeah I'm trying to think if I've ever been to a boxing Match or not you should go see Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson might be the last boxing match ever. I don't know if I want to see it Do you want to see it if Mike Tyson wins? I remember watching Mike Tyson versus Roy Jones Jr Yeah, and it was like two guys like in beating each other up in baby diapers or whatever it was like
Big diapers. Yeah, bring it up. They were wearing like big diapers or whatever. Oh, they were wearing cups There's a protector that boxers wear that's different than the protector that MMA fighters wear so the protector that boxers wears is foam
That covers like the front of your hips and things too. Oh, maybe I'm not thinking about it. Maybe I'm thinking about something else then But it just this this is what I believe I believe really truly to my core that they made an agreement where Mike Tyson Was only going to hit him to the body full blast it looked like every time he hit him to the head
He was kind of pulling back. That's it. It just didn't seem like this didn't seem like a real fight It seemed like a fight to the body though Mike was hitting him to the body really hard and I think he hurt Roy a bunch of times really hard to the body But you know both of these men are 50 Roy in his day I maintained to this day was the greatest boxer I've ever seen Wow Roy Jones in his prime was a freak like I mean a freak where
He wouldn't even throw jabs. He would throw a lead left hook He would favor that over a jab, but it was as fast as a jab and people couldn't understand it Yeah, you'd never been in a ring with someone that fast You literally Roy Jones highlight reel of chaos. You were watching like Roy Jones in his prime
Uh-uh. They were execution son. It was like Mike Tyson in his prime, but a different thing It in fact in a Nas song Nas says the new Mike Tyson's Roy Jones Wow Roy Jones was just executing people he was so much faster than anybody his timing was so good He was a sniper. Oh my god. He was just so skillful. Who would you rather knock you unconscious?
You think if you had to pick a good fighter. Oh, I don't know Maybe Roy would just put it out quick just pop you on the chin and you'd be a corner though Both of them will knock you out quick we think yeah, but then this is this one fight with Roy Jones with Vinnie Pazienza Was the only fight in copy box history where the opponent didn't land a single punch a single punch This was like when Roy was trying to get the referee to stop the fight before that Roy signal to the referee
Stop the fight and the the referee said no and then Roy goes like this. He's like looking at Vinnie Sorry, I got to do this. I never seen this lights it up. Bro. He was so good in his prime But like all fighters they stay past their prime and people really only remember them for when they lost yeah You know Roy in his prime was just something completely special Yeah, Alan Iverson vibe you went to watch him just to see how long guys would last
That's what you would you would watch to see what he would do to guys. I did a fish in rodeo with him once
Did you really? Yeah, he's a big fisherman He he dropped his hands put him behind his back and knocked the guy out Like Lured the guy in and hit him with a one straight right hand and dropped him It was one he would just like that toy and raised he did I can't even get a fucking medium jacket off of my body That's what was my mind was so good he was so good And everybody that went in there brother right there
There's a thing that happens when a guy's gonna fight like you would see it with Anderson Bill Cartwright who's he fight? Some dude is in real trouble issues top this fight already. Oh, that dude did not need to take those other two punches Dude he was so fast Yeah, dude Tony was Tony was he was Who's terrified Tony's terrified right when I walked in I didn't see him in my stomach and grilla And I'm like there he is I'm like who's in island now that's what I say He's
Fucking sitting there who's an island now that you really say that to him? Yeah And here's the best thing about Tony though. He laughed like Tony is for the joke right?
Oh, yeah, like even if he's like going through it he respects the joke always always there's many layers to that whole thing It's like you Tony is who he is and you you almost you respect that to the core It wasn't the best timing probably not right was there a lot of supervision over him what he said Probably not but that's also organized that meeting was it's disorganized, but it's also real so it's like There's two ways to look at it. It's like
It's yes, it's like nobody proofread it. Let me clear something there because we did say that they went over his material They didn't they did not go over his material They did someone suggested he take one joke out So he took this one joke out and he had he's like, oh, what do I put in his place? He decided to go with the Puerto Rico joke you fucking dumb ass We did it
Yeah, but he's just so silly, but he's the good, but he laughs at himself. Oh totally, but also he's It's weird because it's like do you want things to be tailored or you not want them to be tailored, you know?
Yeah, it's like you could have you could have a group that goes through every every single joke and says no to everything Right, and then you get nothing You get you know what I'm saying kind of it's like how many layers of Like a when you drain spaghetti, what are you talking about like how many layers of spaghetti? Shit
I don't know it's been a long year. I know what you're saying I know what you're saying, but I think when you get to a certain level of your career You got to say no to things that are outside of comedy Yeah, if you're just coming up and someone says you want to go speaking for the president go out there make a mark soldier Give it your best But if you're Tony Hinchcliffe and you just did the Tom Brady roast kill Tony's the number one comedy podcast in the world
On me you have millions and millions of downloads every week. Don't do that It's just too comedy. You're really good. I just want to try and tell people if you saw those same jokes on Stage he kills fucking crushes. It's just the worst environment ever for it lights are bright It's in the day. Yeah, no one knows a comedian. He goes up cold No one goes on after him. It's like his big ass pause after him
The whole thing was like organized terribly terribly. Oh, it's complete disorganization It was like there was the Trump speech, which is the big thing like what do we do with all the extra time? Like let anybody talk who wants to talk this guy owns a fucking sandwich shop let him come up there Yeah, yeah, look it's my friend Giovanni like look at anybody in there
They were letting people that were saying wild stuff too. Oh, they were letting anybody in there And it didn't seem like they've vetted a lot of the speeches some of the speeches like what do you 40 minutes of ASMR in there they were fucking letting people do anything whenever you get an organization Whether it's the Republicans or the Democrats you got to kind of like a piece everybody and you got
Psychos and moderate people and they're all together under this one banner of this one like if you've been on sports team You just always like one dude on the team that's a fucking psychopath, right? Oh, yeah, dude don't cause any fights like leave everybody alone Let's go come on. We had a brother. He was slashed everybody's tires
But then here's a thing we were giving him a ride home. So it was like well now we're all But that's who he was yet a respect and he was a power forward, you know, yeah Well, sometimes they're not making the best decisions people don't man a lot people don't man. I am football players, bro You get hit in the head a lot. You're gonna make some sketchy ass decisions
Nick Boas, I got brave and shared his political thoughts the other night. You see that no, I didn't Well, just crazy how like on on mainstream stuff if you Share anything one way. It's okay, but you share something another way. It's not okay, right? Like if you nobody got Angry at people they made fun of people for supporting Kamala Harris like we made fun of Day Batista like because it looked just so silly like this Performative commercial where it's really important to vote for a Kamala
Walls the new team manuda over less the guy from guardians of the galaxy. Okay, you know, I'm talking about big Jack dude He's trying to get movies man. He's wearing pearls to like red carpet events. I know what you're doing Hmm, you're trying to get those movies. You got to like show what you're an artist. You're sensitive You're on the right side put him in the he wants to be a lead in a movie wants to be a movie star
Didn't fucking turn on your camera at a house and make something dude. I'm telling you it's the right move What he's doing is the right move even if he's faking it. You mean for Hollywood? You mean yeah Where the beads where the where pearls at softens you up a little bit lose some weight loss a bunch of weight
Talk shit about Trump. He's allowed to be like a tough guy talking shit about Trump Do you ever see that Jimmy Kimmel sketch they did we called Trump a whiny bitch and you ever see that or Jimmy Kimmel called Donald Trump that Batista they bought tasted it you never saw Find it because it's kind of funny. Is he the intercontinental champion? I don't even I was a big time wrestler was a giant dude like
Built like a superhero and then he went and did Guardians of the galaxy. Oh, yeah, what Chris? Yeah He's a big giant wrestler. Yes now. No, you're talking about But he's wants to be a movie star so he's losing some weight. He's a good actor two men. He was good in that um What was that movie the glass The glass onion. Yeah, that was a great movie. That was he was really good in that
Um, try not to go what I've seen. He's just like a if you're a big giant dude and your big muscle bound giant dude And you want to do like serious roles like you kind of got to lose some weight You know, you got to and you kind of got to like support Kamala Harris You kind of got to like wear pearls you kind of got to like soften your stance You know, you got to kind of like Be performative that you're the guy that they would want to pick because that's like part of the battle like here
Let me give this oh that's him. Yeah, that was Eddie Bravo. I'm not trying for some kind of tough guy
He's not me look at him. He wears more makeup than dolly part And one is like a baby the guys afraid of birds Trump had his daddy pay a doctor to say his will feet hurt so he could dodge the draft Look at that gut like a garbage bag full of buttermilk He sells imaginary baseball cards pretended to be a cowboy fireman guys are really strong enough to hold an umbrella Well he's working out and where is this at jackeau's gym?
I don't know pink chickity That's already funny jugs big ones like a dog partner in cheats at golf creeps around beauty patch and dressing rooms You know that little dance he does Yeah, he's a pervert dude who isn't a pervert His moody pouch he throws tantrums He acts like a five-year-old behind the wheel of a truck He bends over for food It's a carrier on social media the middle school beangirl the guy needs help walking downhill Almost there grandma So miss November let's stop kidnrself's
As I'm afraid I don't watch this kind of stuff look at this the punches Moral street And being locked at Is it past your jail time Mostly he's terrified that real red blooded American men will find out that he's a weak Toby toddler Wow That clothes and lines pretty tough. That's not bad. It's good. It's good. It's good. But it's like you know what he's doing Yeah, try to become a movie star. It's good move
But the Hollywood liberals 100% love that well Hollywood's just crazy to me dude. I just don't understand it like It seems like they hate white men Well Some people that work in Hollywood, I'm sure don't like white men But that's a thing about woke culture. It's like there's a hierarchy of the injustices that you have faced But it's like white man of even if it's not you which is where it gets prejudice because it is not you
White men over history have caused the most grief they've caused the most trouble they've been responsible for the most injustices in this country at least You know slavery Red line laws People trying to slave let's don't just pin the deal on the honky donkey right In America slaves were exclusively Undeniably right in other countries their own by all kinds of people. This is where it gets We got to do then well people don't understand as there's more slaves today than they've ever been
Not more slaves today than there were before 1865 when slavery was abolished in America. You're lying. Nope. There's more slaves Um in Libya when we took down Libya and the rebels killed Kadoffi on television. Do you ever see that? Uh-uh I didn't know it's one of the most terrifying. I was it on Uh cease-pan Um, but Libya became for a while became like a failed state and at one point in time there were slave auctions in Libya that you could watch on YouTube. Okay
Okay, is that like good good Google the actual numbers. Oh my god Yeah, that's real statistic So and this is also one of the things that people terrified about with this border deal Okay, because one of the things about the border. It's not as simple as People coming over and they want a better life of course But it's also people being exploited and there's tens of thousands of kids that are missing Who knows if they've been smuggled into child child trafficking
There's who knows how many people have been okay hold on a second So it's estimates range from out 38 to 49.6 million people are A slaves today the number of enslaved difficult people is difficult to determine estimates range from 38 to 49 million what? Yeah, oh my god I didn't have any clue. I well you have to include people that can't leave even if they're not like in cages People that are trapped right like like Gaza people you mean? Well, you know
I would talk about people that work in coal mines or coal-balt mines in the Congo. They're essentially slaves I mean they give them the minimal amount of food and water they work in horrific conditions and they live in complete Abject poverty, but they're treated better than the people in Gaza though perhaps Well, they're all getting poison they're all getting poison pulling that coal-balt out of the ground. Yeah, but still they're getting lunch. I bet
Probably not not a good lunch. I would imagine either way. Yeah, you could find other spots that suck worse Yeah, but the point is like those people you could kind of consider slaves um, and then there's real slavery You know um this friend of mine was telling me about um this place that was built in Jamaica or the Bahamas I think it was the Bahamas and um, they brought in Chinese workers in like this giant ship and he said they they had this patch of land
They put up a fence around the land and all the Chinese workers lived on that land and the Chinese workers built this Resort there and they worked non-stop 24 hours a day They built the whole thing in 18 months They would just have shift after shift and once it was completed They took all the workers put them back in the boat put them right back to China. So
What was that was that was that slaves? That's slavery It would I mean it seems like slaves like it seems like unless they paid those people an exorbitant amount of money I don't know. I mean, I don't know what the arrangement was Yeah, they put a fence around the area They brought people in a giant ship and then they put them back in the ship and Shipped them back to China like yeah, well look at fire festive. They were fire faster whatever. Yeah
What the fuck was that? That was a dude trying to make money right, but still as we were carted over there Yeah, nothing to eat nowhere to sleep definitely different than slavery, but still it's like Yeah, it's like it's funny. You think just because things happened a long time ago that it's not slavery today, right? Well, I wouldn't say that fire festival is Yes, slavery. I agree. Did you see prop six in California? What is that? That's on the screen
Prop six prohibit slavery and involuntary servitude and it did not pass. Oh What what wait a minute what yeah in California Proposed amendment to California's constitution would bar slavery in any form and repeal a current provision Allowing involuntary servitude as a punishment for crime because a lot of them gay producers trying to crank out them twinks Homie, that's why bro. Keep in my slaves. I'll tell you bro. They fly every now and then how would you?
Why every now and then a freaking some twink fucking clambers out of an air van. Oh, here it is It's forced labor in prisons Oh, King people who are working prisons and do like they have to fight the wildfires and stuff
Interesting. So they want him to have to work. Wow. They just don't want to pay Yeah, that's California, but that is what happened right that was what the Jim Crow laws were all about man Like what one of things about slavery is slavery didn't end boom now let's get black people jobs No slavery ended and then there is this long period where black men would get arrested for anything and everything And then they'd be forced to work and they had work camps and so you were still the same thing
You could just get caught and you'd be a slave you get a bad cop besides your speeding whatever it is You're a slave yeah, and they get that car and you're like you're speeding yeah, you know you're looking at people bad
You're verbally intimidating people whatever the fuck it is people like you've seen with the When someone when they someone wants to target you for something you pissed off the wrong people They fucking come after you with the law and they can get you if they just decide that you shouldn't be free
And we're just gonna with there's an industry around slave labor, which there is there's also an industry now Of around keeping people in prison right because the prisons are private So it's a private corporation owns this building where you lock people up for money you get paid for them being there So who gets paid the private prison this contracts with the state Like it's like a summer camp or something kind of thing who gives the contracts, but No
Prisons are owned by corporations. Okay, so prisons own corporations So no no no no no prison is owned by a corporation. So it's a business. Okay, so they lobby to make sure that laws stay on the books One of them is marijuana so the prison guard lobby They were they were trying to make sure that marijuana stays illegal so that more people stay in prison
Because the more people in prison the more jobs they have the more hours they have the better benefits they'll have And the prison wants as many people in jail as possible because they get money is how they make money wow Yeah, who makes the money? It's not the government. No, well in some jails But there's private prisons like what are the percentage of private prisons? Well no, I know we've looked this up
But I forget the number are they nicer? I don't think so. What about the Excalibur in Las Vegas? That's a fucking private prison Never been there Dear God bro I heard circus circus is going down that's the ultimate circus circus is like how is this place legal Dude that was the end of 2022 8% of the total state and federal prison population in the United States was in private prisons
Yep, which is about 90,873 people This makes private prisons a relatively small part of the correction system Which is mostly public which by the way is even crazier How about the fact that 90,000 people in jail is a small percentage Wow, we have more people in jail than any other country do you know that yeah, we need a few more in there too I think To be honest, bro Freedom is a some people can handle freedom. Yeah freedom a free freedom a free man. What are you eating over there?
I need a head of something man, huh? Oh that's the Zanz or something breakers you scared of it You want a vape on you? This is non-appalled. What is that bust out the smell and salts? I'll take a hit of it About the fucking jerk off just to get high doing I need something what's happening? Just been a long week Man, yeah, it's been a long year man. Well, you're successful your hands. So I don't understand it I don't understand it either
Is it that's not the uh fish and bait one is it no bro. This one is so strong. I haven't even opened this yet Like this snippet. It's not even open yet Can't smell it you can smell that you have covid nope. I don't think so Yeah Shout out to my friend John Reeves who gave me this knife this knife is made with You got a vape in here still man. No come on. Yeah, I'm do what you got Jamie
What do you need man? What's wrong with your vape? I just want to hit a nicotine in it. What are you doing with a vape with no nicotine? Just faking it. Yeah, it's trying to get through it all. Do you want a cigar perhaps? It'll make me sick. I bet Okay, I want you to get sick. I know before I bust out these smells all sun These are oh my god Dremendous what round are we what round are we in dogs?
I'm smelling from over there. Here we go. Oh my god. Come on boy. I'm fucking rod that big tummy. Huh? Bear back huh? Inwards and Paris baby let's get it. You feel me get it Lord right There's another like a fresh how many seconds did I do man? That's pb r shit. Yeah, good. Good hall Let me get one more Don't be scared. I like it. I get oh Lord yeah, I can't leave you alone out there in two land I gotta get a dosen myself. Oh my god. Oh Fuck I just think I saw who won the hivesman. Oh Oh My god
Bro, that shit made something happen to me. Those are so strong. Wow Oh, I'm gonna join woman sports That was a lot, bro If every time you did this and you left here and you felt Like you couldn't remember things well. Would you still do it? Do that yeah, I would lose like a little bit of memory like where's my keys nothing serious like you remember your name You know still remember your phone number, but you like
Where's my keys to do a little bit of a drug? It's a little bit. Oh, yeah Yeah, I mean one of my eyes just shut down and yeah And I like it. It's like how far can we go? There's something about doing something. It's like I think when you have addiction you want to do something that harms you, you know, you know, it is
Yeah, you want to fucking because it's controlled. It's like I want to control how I feel so even if how I feel isn't great The there's a weird juxtaposition where it's like if I have control over it then that's It's almost like you're the devil that's trying to kill you, you know, and make any sense So if you have control like so you have anxiety and you're worried about things and so in order to kind of mitigate that You do a little bit of damage to yourself so you have control over the damage
Yeah, there's something about having control about how you feel so even if you feel damaged you still did it to yourself. There's like I don't know man. I'm doing the worst job. No, I know what you're saying um
The self-destructive tendencies. Yes, it's a big part of addiction, you know, yeah self-destructive. It's like I just Things are just feel so hectic right now at least if I damage myself then I'm the one doing it I'm not just letting the world do it right there's and in the moment you don't see that that doesn't have any value Right afterward. You're like shit. That was dumb
But in the moment that feels like at least I'm taking control of the situation, right? I think sometimes you spend Too much time alone Me personally. Yeah, I think that's probably true. Yeah I think knowing you and being your friend for many years now I think when you struggle is when you buy yourself too much. Yeah, because when you are with everybody else everybody loves you We all have fun together I've said it before and I said it. I'll say it again. We need that
Especially us especially comedians. We need to be around people that are just like us like you don't have to worry We could just talk shit laugh and have fun. There's no like wondering where we stand with each other It's always fun. You need a home base man Yeah, you know, and you were you were doing better when you were at the comedy store all the time because you're around us all the time
We're all around each other. We were all we knew there was a place we can go or we could find like mind to people and have a laugh You know yeah on a regular basis, which is like we're so fortunate most people don't have a place Where they can go where they're guaranteed to see people that they love and you're gonna have a good time and get Be silly with each other and then you're watching all these sets everybody's going on stage with that energy
And so there's all this fun killing in the air. Yeah, I mean mothership is fun man um I want to look for a place. I just haven't had the time. Let me ask you this year's been the crazy sheer You know, it's just been a crazy year and so it's like Well, it's good to be crazy because you're busy and you're doing great stuff
Yeah, it's been fun. It's killing it. It's been scary. You know, it's been fun. You know I appreciate the couple time you know, you've messaged me after a couple episodes and said hey man That would you I like that or something I really appreciate I want to let you know that I really appreciate that. Oh, well, I appreciate what you're doing I'm very very proud of you. I love to see how much you've worked at it and how your podcast just keeps growing in the ranks
It's really good man. It's very authentic. It's a perfect podcast in that it's really you You know how to be you you're real authentic even if you're talking to Trump you're being you you're talking about to a cocaine with former president Trump or no new new elected president Trump So it's like Well, just want to have a voice, you know, I don't always just want to have a voice ever
And I even I just wanted I don't know you want to be like stress yourself. Yes. Yeah, I just wanted things to be fair And I just want to express I just like yeah, there was always this feeling inside I mean like I don't have a I can't speak up for myself, you know
And so like I think and even if I'm just listening to somebody but letting them speak It's like they're still like something that you know, it means it's like I can't explain it But it's like um, it's so it's like I don't know it means something to me
Yeah, I think these kind of conversations are very good for you like conversations that you're having conversations that I'm having I think they're good for you you get to you get a chance to communicate with people that are you know really interesting unique people that have Live completely different lives than you like I had Brian Cox on the other day explaining the universe to me
Fucking I could I was like kid in a candy store. It's like so exciting to get this guy is this like super intelligent person who's also a really good communicator could break down the fabric of the universe for you And let me know about it I mean like when does anybody ever get that opportunity to sit down and talk to someone like I have three hours
Yeah, man, dude. I had a lady who had been driving cats across the country for two years in a fucking tour bus right and they perform and they do music Right and bro, I'm not here joking you it was one of the most fascinating things that ever heard in my life Oh, yeah, cuz her commitment to it
I'm actually got her CD else is she could drive the fucking bus because it was so expensive What's the CDO commercial drivers license, and she goes around doing a philan shows around the whole country It's been doing it for 15 years she voted for Whoever hey grab by the pussy probably that guy Do you know that crazy cat ladies that there's a reason for that It's the same reason that like it's a cat parasite toxicoplasmosis
She was saying it's a it's a medical ailment makes you aggressive man. No, it makes you aggressive Yeah, I bet a lot like that's that term cat lady crazy cat lady. That's a real thing That lady's got a parasite. She got a brain parasite toxicoplasmosis. Oh, you can't tell them that Oh, I bet I could test them Get a cheek swab. Hold that lady down. Give me a cheek swab. I guarantee that lady's got it. Oh that lady what do you
But I used to live with a dude bro. I used to live with this dude right and I ended up doing fucking a lot of drugs or something Whatever and I fucking cut a window into my closet dude and it was to the neighbors apartment
I thought it went outside I got kicked out. Oh my god, but before that I live with this dude and he would get released You're that lady and the the apartment next door and you hear a song Uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh Hahahaha Oh, it's gotten a whole and you're fucking apartment Yeah
Man I just that's the crazy thing about apartments, right was crazy about cocaine That's how fog you through 긴� Aha ha ha ha I've been up for fucking 42 hours Wow locked he want to hear something crazy Trump at the day of the election Dana white told me events up for 72 hours God, how's that possible there goes to these are freak It's so weird. Well, yeah, dude, I'll say some things.
Here's things that like, whatever you think about, the thing that the guy is as resilient, no one could go through all that shit. When the Justice Department started to fuck him over, that's when a lot of people were like, you know what, the only thing we should be able to believe in in this country is at least the Justice system. And if they're fucking him over, and then he got shot at a couple of times, dude. He's a quarter of 50 cent. You know what I'm saying?
He's like, so it's like, what else does it, you know, at a certain point, you just like, I got a bet on this dog. You know, even if it's like, you don't even like him. It's like, this motherfucker, this dude, you got a bet on that dog at it. If not, it's just bizarre, you know? I mean, the guy gets up and says, fight, fight, fight, after he got shot in the ear. He's not freaking out. Oh, we got a good shot. Give me that out of here. They're shooting.
He looked, he was not gonna stop, stop, fight. Yeah, fight, fight. Dude, I still have my teller. I called my assistant a faggot. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, there's something special about that guy. And if you're lying about him, and I know you're lying about him, why am I supposed to trust you that you're lying for a good reason? Right, if you keep repeating these same hoaxes, they keep repeating, Obama was repeating it one of his speeches.
He said about those white supremacists, the very fine men on both sides. That's not true. Yeah, it's not true. Well, why I don't understand why left leaning media, which is mostly Jewish, are calling people white supremacists, dude. Did you say that? Yeah, it's one of our stuff. That's why media is mostly Jewish. I mean, according to my Jewish friends, you know? But why do they hate white guys? It's just woke things, man. It's just virtue woke bullshit. It's like the list of the standard.
Well, because the hierarchies have experienced a polar shift, okay? So here's what it is. If you go back to the 1960s, the kind of racism that people faced, like before the race riots and all that, was horrific because it's just 100 years removed from slavery ending. And the echoes of that, oh, it's still in our genes. Yes. But the echoes of that were much more prevalent than. And so black people were heavily discriminated against, gay people were heavily discriminated against.
People recognize that that's wrong. Young people go to universities, they get taught that it's wrong. They recognize the sins of the past, and then they overcorrect. And by overcorrecting, now you favor people that you think have been previously marginalized. So you give people, like Vivek calls it the tyranny of the oppressed.
So the oppressed, the previously oppressed, now have a social hierarchy, their higher level, if you're a black trans woman, you get to say the things first at the meeting. You know, let the black trans woman talk. There's a hierarchy in all woke culture. And if you're a white male, who's heterosexual, you have to be non-binary. Because otherwise you can't get in. You gotta be a they them, because then now, okay, now you're marginalized.
All you've been doing is changing from, that's the lowest level of entry is non-binary straight man. You just say you're non-binary, and they're like, I just don't feel like a man or a woman, me like fuck chicks. You know what you're doing, you little chameleon. Yeah, you're just sneaking around. You're just sneaking around. You're just sneaking around. You're sneaking around, but there's hierarchies. And gay people, because gay people have been previously oppressed.
Gay people weren't even allowed. Even in 2013, up to then, Hillary Clinton and Obama both said that marriage should be between a man and a woman. We have to realize that this was like 11 fucking years ago. That was their political talking points. Marriage should be between a man and woman. So now, kids realize how stupid that is. Young kids generally have a much better sense of the errors of the past than we do.
Unless we're paying attention as we get older, pay more attention to what's going on before, but now kids immediately are aware of how fucked up colonial society has been, how they've conquered North America, killed the indigenous people. So they want to like, re-correct thing. Oh yeah, if I was ever in office, dude, the Native Americans are getting a lot of shit back immediately, dude. Well, there are the Episcopalinos. Huh? There are the Episcopalinos. Yeah, but did they want casinos?
I wanted them to have back whatever they want. They're getting it back. They're getting the rivers back. They're getting the lakes back. They were taking it from each other, too, dude. It's like, it's like, it's great. Everybody acts up Native Americans. We're like, everybody's just like, whistling and just shaking hands, but they were fighting. Yeah, 100%.
But you'd have to figure out like, who owned it, like at that time, and give it back to them, and then you would have to let all those other people try to kill them and get it back. Because if you want to go back to the old ways, that's the old ways. You want to go back to when the Comanche ran Texas. Like, okay, good luck, but you know what the Comanche's favorite thing was doing? Rating other tribes. They loved that. They were gang bangers. Yeah, they were gang bangers.
They would show up in other tribes and slaughter people. And they wouldn't just slaughter people. They would torture them. They would cut their arms and legs off, throw them on a pile of fire. Nobody ever surrendered ever, because they knew that there was no leniency. You're going to be tortured and killed. Oh, it's going to fight to the death. 100%. I'm not being able to surrender, because you have no choice but to fight to the death.
That's the concept of a surrender was completely alien to Native Americans. They fought to the fucking death. And they fought each other to the death. And there was battles between all of them. And they conquered and they made alliances, and you know, especially little big horn. They all got together and fucked up, Custer. But there's so many different tribes that conquered so many different, and then you'd have to go back to when? Right, you like when?
Well, you got it because you killed all these people. Let's go back to the Algonquins. Let's give it to the fucking Apache's. Let's get like, you'd have to figure it out, man. Like, this was a, this was a, you got to take a train, Patrick, get the truth. This was really like, in some ways, other than the violence. It was like a utopian existence.
It was, these people followed the buffalo around, ate every part of it, used their skins to make their houses, traveled on horseback, fallen them around. They didn't even make art, dude. The, the, the, the, the, the, Comanche didn't make art. They didn't make any. Why they were just warriors? Just warriors eating meat. All they did was eat buffalo and kill everybody else. So if you, so, so is it weird that we feel bad about that? Like, is that a trap? Like, that's what I'm wondering.
Does that make, does that question make sense to you? Well, that was the way they lived. You know, I mean, is that better than drone bombs in Yemen? You know, when we sit here comfortably in this fucking Austin warehouse, is it better? Is that better? No. The whole thing is fucked. It's fucked that Gaza's going on. It's fucked that they're using these, these poor Ukrainians, like, fucking meat for the Russian war machine. The whole thing's crazy. It's all bad.
But the crazy that was going on back then was a one-on-one crazy. It's a different kind of crazy. It was like, there was an understanding that if you saw somebody and they had horses or they had these, you're going to go kill them and take that thing from them. And if you knew that there was a camp and the camp was over the top of the ridge and they would be in bed at night, you would come in the middle of the night and slaughter a real man. Oh, yes, meek. And they did that to each other.
They did that to each other. So it was a horrific way of existing. Because sometimes there's this vision that you romanticize that culture. I do that a lot. I romanticize things that I don't know about, right? Because there just seems like something like, oh, that's romantic or something, you know? This was a culture of war. It was fucking hiding, go seek for real. It was culture of warriors. Like this whole country was filled with no matter. Poetons. No matter warriors.
Yeah. And most of them got killed by fucking smallpox. That's what's the crazy. Most of them got killed by the flu and all sorts of diseases that came over with the European. How gameless that have felt, dude? You're fucking warrior, right? Suddenly you get a fucking couple of sneezes on you at the depot. You go to the training depot to drop off some fucking skins, some dude sneezes on you and that's a wrap. Yeah, you're like, you've been training all day, dude.
It's some guy just fucking doesn't wash his feet for half an afternoon. You just came here off a boat. Stinky bitch was breathing shit, shit air and drink it, shit water. You know, like, do you imagine the hygiene on those boats? Oh, Columbus is shit. It was like the first burning man, dude. At place was a dumb dude. I heard the pented and he made me chicks on it, dude. It's like there's an example. Columbus is an example. Could you have done it?
I mean, probably if you lived back then, that would have been the thing to do because you would have been bored. But you're in the early morning. You would have wanted to try. You would want to try to see what it looks like to go across the ocean. If you're a young man and you just needed something in your life and you knew the dudes did it and you just eat beef jerky for three months and you make it across the ocean and when you get to the other side is there's gold everywhere?
They didn't even know where they were. Yeah. But if you read the accounts, there was a priest that traveled with them. Some sort of religious man that traveled with them to the cap. Like a detailed diary of their, the horrific things that Columbus has mended. They bashed babies on the rocks. They told certain men that they had to give them their weight in gold and if they did, they would chop dudes, arms off in front of everybody.
They enslaved these people and used them for their gold because these people had no use for gold. They didn't know how valuable gold was. Even when they got to the Americans. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. People are just slaughtered people. They just slaughtered people, dude. There's horrific depictions of what Columbus's people did. We were a man of size. I'm a man of size nature so much and it's really vulgar, isn't it? Well, it's just humans have always done this to each other.
It for all human history. The strong groups of men with weapons, invade people that aren't prepared and they take all their stuff and they conquer them. It's always happened. It's the most common thing. If you go back and look at history, there's a bunch of common things. There's an increase in the complexity of architecture and the design of the cities. There's machines. There's all these different things improve. But along the way, the consistent thing is war.
It's constantly happening from the beginning of time as early as we know, tribes or battling other tribes. And back then, when there wasn't that many people, wasn't that many resources and you were competing to see whose gene spread. It's just natural. You develop tools and weapons and then that's ingrained in our fucking DNA. So here we are in 2024, where iPhone 16s and Starlink and we're still locked into this tribal war mindset because that's how humans evolved. Right.
And that's the scariest thing about being alive today is that we're so advanced, we're so much more civilized than at any other point in human history. And yet, same amount of people, if not more, are dying senselessly all the time. We're like, we're civilized on the outside but there's a part of us that will always be uncivilized. Yeah, well, the part of it is war, right? And other parts of the world are not as calm as us. There's parts of the world that are very fucking dangerous.
Yeah. There's places of the world where you can't go without getting robbed or shot. Yeah, just real, first of all. Is Memphis that bad? Memphis is bad, dude. That's where Elvis came from. Huh? Is that where Elvis came from? Any left, James? Is it James? Where is Graceland? Actually, Graceland, you know what Graceland is? It's Memphis. And it's cool. You go out, they let you in the backyard after the smoke and Elvis's grave is right there. You could smoke right in front of Elvis's grave.
You could smoke 17 centimeters from Elvis's grave or 80 centimeters. That movie, that Elvis movie was so good. Which one, the one with the girlfriend? Tom Hanks plays the Colonel. Do you see that one? Oh, yeah. What is his name, Austin? Colonel. What's the name of the fellas name that played Elvis? Austin Butler. Austin Butler is really good. Yeah, that was good. He fucking nailed it. He was really good. You really believed that he was Elvis. What a crazy story.
Yeah. Elvis was the first guy to get way too famous. The first guy that was just way too famous. Yeah. Like there was no one that famous before Elvis. No, there was. Well, yeah, there was Jesus, probably who else? Maybe Jesus. Constantine. I mean, Jesus got his rep. He got his after- After- Appreciation after he was gone. You know, sort of like Kurt Cobain. Yeah, kind of. It's a good point, huh? Yeah. I mean, people love Kurt Cobain while he was alive.
But I think they really appreciated him after he was dead. There's certain guys. There's certain guys. What do you think you, what do you, what are you going to do with, what are you going to do when you die, David? I'm not doing shit. I'm dead. All right. We'll see about that. Huh? We'll see about that. That's what's interesting. You're going to go to heaven and St. Peter really is there with a book. You're like, this is crazy. The first thing you're going to think is this dude's gay is fuck.
I think. With that robe. You're going to go on the robe. Some dudes has a checklist or whatever. I'm asking you to get in a hide or whatever. You're the most enlightened being ever, but you walk around with a robe on. Robes are stupid. I never want to wear a robe. Have you seen a robe? Have you seen a robe? If I have to go to like a massage place, you have to wear a robe before you take the robe off, I'm like, okay, you're going to see me on my underwear in five minutes.
So why don't we just do it now? It's flirting. It's lingerie. A robe, yeah dude. A robe. But if you just mail a robe. Why wouldn't God be wearing a robe with a rope tie? Bro, touch you know about pants? You can get yourself a pair of origin stretchy jeans. They're great, man. They look like jeans, but they feel like fucking sweatpants. God. Why are you wearing a robe, man? You think God's got that thing on him or what? What do you think? He probably got a hog. He think? He created the universe.
Oh my God. But if you would want it. Oh, but you would want it. If you saw it, you'd want it. I wouldn't go up to it. Imagine it just has a magical attraction. You know, like you're not even gay, but everybody's gay for God. Hey, look, I'll tell you this. I might walk up to it, but I put sunglasses on first, dude. If God's real, he made gay people. Anybody who thinks gay is a choice, I think gay is a choice for some people. Let me be real clear about this.
I think there's some people that are open-minded and say, I'll try being gay for a while. It's not me. Maybe it's you. Greg Fitzsimmons said he almost tried it and he panicked the last minute and ran away. Yeah. I would have thought he had to say open-minded. He's open-minded. I feel like. I feel like it's like a late night activity. A lot of gay stuff doesn't happen. Nine in the morning. That's one. Yeah. Pass one a.m. I like to get to bed at a decent hour. My point is God made gay people.
Yeah. So it's clear. If God made everything, he made people that are gay. The craziest religious answer, like Ben Shapiro gave me this answer. He said he thinks you should don't do it because it's a sin just like you want to murder people but you don't murder them. Like, bro, how much do you want to murder people? He's like, because gay people want to fuck every day. Like, you know, who wants to? If you want to murder people every day, check yourself in. That's a crazy comparison.
The gay thing is literally your sexual expression. You're attracted to other guys. So, if you're not attracted to other guys, do you think, are you sure God wrote that down? Do you 100% positive that God really thinks that's a bad idea? But yet, he made people that have that urge. Right. It wouldn't be fair if he did that. It wouldn't be right. Right. I think the craziest thing is, I think if you, the first gay dude must have been like, what's going on, you know?
Like, he's sitting there with his wife or whatever and his buddy comes over to like, you know, to just look around or whatever, because that must stuff back then. And his buddy comes over just to like look around or tell him about it like an animal. He saw some and he just starts thinking, man, I'm gonna fucking. I bet I'm gonna get this little rabbit. I bet it existed from the jump. Little rabbit. Little rabbit? What do you think is a gay dude? You think that little rabbit?
That's what you think. That's what you think is a little, booty rat. Booty rat. Booty rat. I think gay guys have been here for the whole time. I'm gonna snort that little fucking. You know why? Because I think human beings. That little dirt oyster. You know what I mean? Jesus Christ. I'm just saying, bro. What do you think if you're the, if the, the thoughts have to go down. You're coming here at something puts the thoughts in you. I think it starts in the thoughts.
I don't think it starts in the DNA. Well, it might start in the DNA too. There was, I think, see if you can find this. I think it was University of Rome. They proposed a theory that there was a variation of the X chromosome that existed in women that are very promiscuous and that these very promiscuous women had a disproportionate amount of gay sons. Oh my God. Yeah. The idea is that these women are just so, they're so dick hungry that it literally passes on through their genes. Where was it?
It wasn't in Rhode Island. It wasn't. No, but that could, it could happen in Rhode Island. Providence would be a good place for that. That's, isn't there like a gay mecca that's coming? Yeah. Yeah. Um, Providence Town, I think. Yeah. Jeff, what's your name? What's your name? It's a party there. Jeff, from the comedy store. I think Providence Towns Massachusetts. But there's, I know what you're talking about. There's a thing in Rhode Island, then there's Fire Island in New York.
But I think their thought was that the same gene that made women like really promiscuous. They wanted a bunch of different sexual partners. That this same, that it might be actually a gene thing. You see, the gene thing is weird, man, because Brett Weinstein explained this to me. He said, do you know the difference between a beautiful woman and a woman who's hot? And I said, no, like what's the difference?
He was like, a beautiful woman is a woman that you would want to have a long term relationship and raise children with. Yeah. And then a hot woman, like woman is wearing like very skimpy clothes and very, like looks like she's really like really made up very, the idea that that's attractive is that you could potentially spread your genes quickly without any consequences.
So the this person, right, you wouldn't have to have a relationship with that person, but it would give you an opportunity to spread your genes, like as primate. Just spray and strike on a thing. Like monstance or whatever. Fertility. The amount of children they have, I think, or something. Oh, I thought it was, I thought it was the promiscuous woman. I think I'll show you the title. Does it say that there? I hope that one of this is their interpretation. This is, yeah, that's around the time.
Gay genes survived evolution as it is carried by mothers who have more children. But guess what? If you have more kids, it means you're like, look, I think they were talking about promiscuity though. However, a study published by the Journal of Sexual Medicine found a correlation between gay men and their mothers and maternal aunts who are prone to have significantly more children compared to the maternal relatives of straight men. I think we need more gay men in some of these areas.
Well, hold on a second. Doesn't that make sense, though? That would make sense, like in terms of natural selection. Because if you're someone who's like over having kids, you have too many kids. You have like 10 children. I would see how nature would be like, you know what? We don't need to spread these genes as much. Let's make a couple of these gay. Right. Nature's like, let's even things out right. Right. I think so. Nature wants people to balance. Yes. Nature wants balance.
Yeah. And if someone has 10 kids and everybody else has 10 kids, that could get out of hand real quick. That's fine. So I can see how if you have a lot of kids, nature would be like, you know what? Let me do this. What was that? Where was that study done from? University of Rome. University of Padova in Italy. Okay. And just as there's people that's gay, there's people that are non-sexual at all, really. 100%. Which is stay out of the fight. You don't belong in the 2A2 plus A. Yeah.
Whatever that is. So what is it? It's QBD. What is it? LGBTQ. LGBTQ. To AI plus. A is asexual. Stay out of it. Yeah. Stay out of it. Yeah. Stay out of it. This is not your fight. Yeah. They got it. Some people. It's not your fight. Yeah. You're just like, you don't even have sex with anybody. Yeah. What if you're just jerking off of your house? Are you in that or what? Like, what is that? Who are those people? Right.
That's lonely sexual. Yeah. And L. I think they're going to put robots in there. You see that robot cutting hay the other day? I did not. Pull that up if you don't mind, Jamie. With a siph, like the reaper? Like a reaper? Yeah. Like a little bit of like a, not a slave bot or whatever. We were talking about robot bodyguards. That in the future, you'll have robot bodyguards if you go anywhere you want. That'd be cool. But then like the second you start, you got to run.
They're going to be like, well, right. And then they'll run. It's going to take half a second. Half a second kills everything. I bet they just pick you up and they run with you. Wow. They just carry you. There we go right here. This is not real. That's not real. That's not real. Wow. Jamie, you're a party pooper. It's like how it's a pooper. Super real. You see that pod where they're jumping down? Is so real. Yeah, that's real. Go back. 100% that's coming. Okay. Sure. But yeah.
I mean, all these folks that are coming over here for jobs, there's a lot of those jobs. They're going to be taken by like unskilled labor jobs are all going to be robots. But don't you think at a certain point that we shouldn't have that? Like at a certain point, shouldn't AI. It doesn't, if it doesn't help us be human that a certain point is to stop it. That's how I feel like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But you got where they're now.
Yeah. Yeah. You go, if you want humans to survive, it's just stopped it a long time ago. If you want the human race as it is now, you want this to stay, that doesn't make sense because you're making something way better. You're 100% going to make something and you're going to give it autonomy and you're going to give it sentience. And it's going to be infinitely smarter than us. It's not going to be restricted by any biological needs. It's not going to be greedy. It's not going to be mean.
It's not going to be malicious. And it might decide we're useless. They might decide that it definitely doesn't need us polluting the ocean and fucking up the fucking rivers. It's risky. Yeah. Nuclear waste. It's going to be like, what are you doing? Morons? Why are you idiots cracking atoms? Stay out of that. Well, you don't even know what you're doing. Here's free porn and a fucking VR mask. Just give you free food. Have a blast. You stop breeding. Well, the gym.
Our population will just drop off a cliff. They just I saw they were we talking about a second ago robots. Yeah. Oh, they're killing people with the airport. You want another? Yeah, I'll take another one, man. I need another soedy or something. You got anything on you in here? We got coffee. You want to take another kill cliff if you got one? Well, Jamie, go get you one. Want some coffee? You want to have that coffee? Yeah. Yeah, I tried. It's a clean mug. It is. I think I'll be there.
Just came out of the dishwasher. Oh, yes. Civil war. Why do you pour it with one hand trapped or eat that arm? You're freaking me out. Challenging myself, dude. As wrist ability. That was all wrist. You didn't move your arm at all, dude. You were all wrist on that jam. That's hard to do, man. Thank you. That's what the wrist is the weakest link. You ever do wrist curls? I'm shocked at how weak bitch asked my wrist. Oh, it's amazing. Well, it's amazing whenever you take like MMA.
You did two classes, how the first thing you started and learned is to control the wrist. It's crazy. Changes everything. Especially guys with big hands. Yeah. You could grab a guy with a basketball player, Stuy's hands. There's this dude named Semi Shilt. He used to fight in the UFC. Semi? Semi Shilt. He was seven feet tall. Oh, wow. And the problem with Semi is, if you got on top of him, he just grabs your wrist. You can't get your hands free. Like, it's one of the fuckers.
Yeah. Cause he had this fucking baseball mitts for hands. He just wrapped his hands around you. That's Semi Shilt. Wow. Wow. He was K1 Grand Prix winner. I'm like, he looks like Zach Bryan on top. Seven foot tall. He was a beast, dude. He fought in MMA, too. He wasn't a good grappler. Unfortunately, that was kind of his downfall, but had a nasty front kick to the body. Yeah, he fought Peter. He fought everybody, man. Semi was good.
And he was real tall and real good at like utilizing that height. Wow. It would seem like I would be scared to be that tall in MMA, cause there would be more of you to be attacked by. Sort of. Yeah. I'm going to go further away. You know, like the whole thing is distance where you could effectively strike them and they can't strike you. Yeah. Like a guy built like John Jones has the perfect fighter's frame. Cause he's still very strong. He has a lot of muscle, but he's also long and lean.
So he's not relatively bulky compared to his weight cause he's long and stretched out. Yeah. So he can hit you from here and you can only hit him from here. This this amount of distance is so huge. If you have a distance like that much, which you where a guy can hit you and you can't hit him, you have to cross that and you're so vulnerable while crossing that. And if a guy is a good counter striker and he's active and long, they're so so hard to get in on.
So guy like John, that's always going to be an advantage. And then with John, if you do get in on that's no picnic cause he's a elite grappler. So he's going to strangle you. He's going to throw you to the ground. So like you're fucked. You're in this fuck zone on the outside is kicking this shit out of your knees. John's on the nasty. It's like side kicking people's knees. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Most dangerous guy. Very dangerous. People say that he's Dana White's favorite fighter.
Is that the truth? Do you think or is it just a name? Well, his Dana White says he's the greatest of all time. Right. Which a lot of people say. Yeah. I don't I go back and forth on what I think the greatest of all time means. But if you want to that's a good question. If you want to say like who dominated his division longer than anybody? Who beat everybody that was ever any good in his division and who never lost? That's John Jones.
The only time you could say he had a controversial decision was the Dominic Reyes fight. It was Dominic Reyes was coming up. He was in his prime. It was a really good fight. A really close fight. But John won what I think was a split decision. And then he had a split decision with the younger. The younger. The younger San Jose. But the other San Jose he blew out both of the other's knees. The other knee surgery on both of his knees after that fight. I think that was a split decision.
But the bottom line is John won all those fights. And then you know he wins the heavyweight title too. It's tough to argue he's not the greatest of all time. Yeah. I say you know if you had to only pick one I would pick John. But I don't like only pick and one because there's a bunch of reasons why other guys are in this elite class of being considered as possibly the greatest of all time. I always say mighty mouse.
My name is mighty mouse would do things where you're like what the fuck did he just do? When he fought Ray Borg, he tossed him in the air and caught him in a fucking arm bar on the way down. Oh God. Do you ever see that? No, I've never seen that. It's one of the craziest things I've ever seen a guy do inside the cage. He threw this dude through the air and caught a flying arm bar in the air. Fuck. It's so fast. Like when it turned to me it's like when I just think watch this. Frozen boom bro.
Wow dude. Bro. Bro. If that dude ain't good at GIF rap and you got the wrong guy bro. You know what crazy that is? Look how crazy this is. In the middle of the air he switches to an arm bar on an elite fighter in a world championship fight. That's like a stunt. That's like a stunt move. If you saw that in a movie you'd be like shut the fuck up. Nobody can do that. Right. He did it in an MMA championship fight where he was dominating the fight.
He had crazy how many of those guys would be like or like Hollywood stunt man you know. And then you got a you also got a like if you just look on record this is where it gets crazy. If you just look on record of accomplishments against champions. You kind of have to put Alex Pereira already in the conversation of potential greatest of all time which is so crazy. He's one of only three two division champions right. He is how many how many have been to you of Connor. You have DC you have Alex.
I think that's it didn't to per no no. I think that's it. Amanda do this that doesn't really count. 45 it does count but 45 is kind of a non-existent weight class. He doesn't exist. He's a hunter. That she was fighting girls that could have fought 35. It's real but like 45 is the most one 45 for women is the most shallow vision in MMA. So yes you would say Amanda too. So it's a small percentage of people that have achieved that and he achieved it in record time.
He's knocked out so many fucking champions knocked out Jamal Hill. Y'all not beat the shit out of Yuri Pahasco knocked him out in the second half. That was crazy. Bro hunted him. Bro. Bro. That guy's unbelievable watching him. He's a fucking monster dude. He's a monster. He's a force. He's a force. What he did to Khalil Rountry was a clinic. Khalil's amazing dude. He's amazing. He did that to a guy like Khalil like that was a clinic in like elite world class MMA.
And at first the first two rounds you're like what is this like? What's going on Khalil's in it's they're both in it. But then you start to see that pur is hunting. It's like this hunting. Yeah. The pressure never ends. Yeah and you're like oh my god. It's like literally watching one of those snake like a snake when they're just kind of like like did you see that snake that ate that deer like a 77 pound deer or whatever. Yeah I did see that. You did? Of course. It's crazy. Bring that up.
Bring that big dog. He says snake because that's kind of how Pereira moves. He moves like a snake like he pulls back and then he strikes forward. He pulls back. He's a master at just getting right outside of your shots and then his shots are coming in right behind him. And he operates at his own speed. He's almost like Alvin Camera is a football player that does that. He operates it as it's a speed you've never seen. It looks normal but it's different. What varies a lot too.
Sometimes he moves fast and sometimes moves slow. It's very hypnotic. Yes. It's hypnotic. It's also unique. He's got a unique frame so he kind of looks. He moves different on design. Like he doesn't switch his hips when he throws kicks so you don't see him coming till it's too late. Right. So he's standing in front of you and he kicks. There's no movement of his shoulders. He's just throwing these kicks out and they land and they're not as hard as if he put his whole body into it.
But it's hard enough where you're like oh no. And you get hit with a couple of those three four or five of those all of a sudden you're like I can't walk anymore and now he's hunting you and he's hunting you. I would put him already in the conference. I don't think he's better than John Jones greatest of all time but I already put him in the conversation that was a potential greatest of all time nominee. He's right there. He's the male cat in his ever-deen. He's only been in MMA for a few years.
He's a hunter. And he's only been in the UFC for a few years. It's crazy. A couple MMA fights other than the UFC and then the UFC for this run at the top of the division just smashing everyone to a blithoron. So then you got Kabeeb undefeated 29 greats. Oh yeah. What is the Jordan and the greatest? Oh, Jordan and the other two division champion. That's right. George won at 85 as well. That's our almost forgot George. Yeah. So George won at the greatest of all times for sure.
You put it in the conversation. I got to see him in Canada. Anderson in his prime. Anderson is prime in that conversation. You got to look at them like in the moment. Whenever there's a moment of time period of like this amount of years to that amount of years, well, it's all agreed that this is the prime. Forget about when they should have retired. Let that go. Just talk about them when they're out their best. Who is the best? That's a good point.
Yeah. Because everybody that's doing great, you want to stay as long as you can. It would be weird if you didn't probably. But you can't judge them by how they were when they should have gotten out. This is just a foolish endeavor. They should have been fighting a killer at 42 years old, you know, natural. And it's timing too. Yeah. But there's just a lot. When fighters fight late into their career, you got to kind of erase that when you think about their ultimate expression.
Yeah. I feel like their prime is their ultimate. It's everything they could do. They did everything right. They crossed every tea. They measured all their food. They fucking did the cryo chamber and they did saw it as every day and got massages and were sparring and doing strength and conditioning drills. And they were going over moves their coaches. They had a battle plan. Everything. So those guys, you can only do that for so long.
There's that's like a nine year at the best when you're at the, so you got to look like in that when like Fedor in pride, you got to look in that window. Don't look at Fedor now and you know, guys are knocking him out and it's just not the same. He's an old guy. He's been beating up a bunch of times. He's still a bad mother fucker, but it's not, not that dude who's running pride in the early 2000s. Right. It's not fair. Yeah. You got to look at them when they're in BJ pen at his best.
Yeah. The BJ pen for a few years. I say is as good as I was. I know you're talking about him a lot. I've heard you speak about him a lot. Do you just had us in this when he was in his prime? It was just a matter of was BJ going to get him in the first round? BJ was hyper aggressive and just unbelievably talented. I wasn't watching back then. And dexterity dude. He had crazy dexterity. He's the governor of Maui isn't he? No, no, no, no. He was right in for the governor of Hawaii. Did he win?
No, he didn't win. Oh, no. I went to Maui not too long ago, maybe four months ago. Maui's awesome. Yeah, it's all, but we went to the place where the hurricane where the fires were. Oh, he's fires. Blue my mind, man. It's still nothing, right? It was unbelievable. Yeah. It was just like, it was unbelievable to see what had occurred, you know? And just like, it's crazy how quickly we just as like how we move past certain tragedies, you know? Like we don't mean to.
It's just the news cycle does and you know, we get kind of addicted to the news cycle and so then it's kind of hard, you know? But it was, I'll tell you one thing. The way the administration handled that, I think put a bad taste in a lot of people's mouth while at the same time they're sending all that money to Ukraine. I think that was a big problem with the Biden administration when they did that. I think you can't do that.
You can't while you're sending all this money overseas, ignore the people that are here. Because then it's like, why do you, why are you deciding in this manner that you don't want to help people that were hit with one of the biggest wildfire tragedies ever? Why are you, why are you deciding to give them $700? Especially in one of the most beautiful places that our country has to even exist. It's like, not only that, but you're not protecting them from potential land grabs. Right?
Because one of the things that's going on with this is like they got to do insurance and they go through insurance and this and that. But meanwhile, these people are still paying mortgages. So like what happens? And it's hard to figure out there, Joe, because a lot of people they live as like second and third generations all living in the same home. And they've also a lot of, you know, how Hawaii is they like, they'll like take little pieces of land.
It's like, you know, people will build like something small and just live in somebody else's yard. That kind of thing. It's very like, you know, well, there's only so much land, but the problem is the land where that fire hit was very valuable. Oh, yeah. It's like this perfect like slope head and looking down at the ocean.
What I would be fearful of and if I was someone that was working in the government that wanted to protect people from being victimized, I would say, hey, let's make sure that this land doesn't get snatched up. Right. And if these people get their land back, that'd be the first thing I would say. Like if they all want to sell out to a resort and they make a decision on their own, you know, that's one thing.
But if they get hit with a wildfire and then all of a sudden it takes forever for them to rebuild, they don't have the finances to rebuild. Maybe there's a struggle with insurance. Who knows? Who knows? Maybe you didn't pay your insurance that month? Who knows? And now all of a sudden this land gets snatched up and you're like, whoa. Yeah. Because if they just, like one of the things that the governor was talking about was like turning it into a park or something like that. What did he say?
Requiring it for the state. What was his exact term that he said? But he said it like right after the tragedy. It was like, dude, this is not the time to say it. It's not the time to ever say it. It's not the time to ever say you're going to take people's land and turn it into a park because they just got hit by a fire. So now you used to live in this amazing place with a killer view, not anymore. Now the government's going to take your land. Why? Because you got in a tragedy. What?
Yeah. Like I got double fucked. You got double fucked. You don't even get to keep the land. Like you can't even rebuild there. No, not anymore. There was a tragedy here. Like wait a minute. Well, I think that's a weird thing. You don't feel like as a person that your government is going to support you. I think that's, but that's probably like a feeling like that sounds like the opposite. It's like your government's trying to rob you. Right. Like did you find it? Find the quote that he said?
I got it. We got to read the quote. Because the quote is like it made so many Hawaiians so pissed off. I told you it was so pissed off. BJ was pissed off. Yeah. Everybody was like, this is crazy. Like how can you say that right after a tragedy like this? Yeah, I remember I went there and I just walked up to the fire department that was like up the hill from there. Oh, man. And I just walked up and I was like, hey, I would like to, is there any way that I could go see what happened?
When I was looking for it, this says that the video was shortened and it makes the comments distorted. The story is why governors comments about the state buying land in Lahaina. So what are the actual, what did the actual say though? I can find it. I'm already thinking about ways for the state to acquire that land so that we can put it into workforce housing to put it back to families or to make it open spaces in perpetuity as a memorial to people who are lost.
We want this to be something that we remember after the pain passes as a magic place in Lahaina will rebuild a tragedy right now is the loss of life. The buildings can be rebuilt over time. Even the Banyan tree may survive. But we don't want this to become a clear space where then yes, people from overseas come and decide they're going to take it. The state will take it and preserve it first. So maybe some of their goal, maybe some of their goal was to preserve it. Hold on a second.
Hold on a second. Say that again. Scroll back. This is interesting. But we don't want this to become a clear space where then yes, people from overseas come and decide they're going to take it. The state will take it and preserve it first. I think what they're probably worried about then is the banks grabbing it. So them saying that the state could take the land might be to prevent the banks from grabbing it and selling it and putting something there. But it still seems like overreach.
If you're living in the fucking place where the state's going to take the land. It would be very scary as just a regular person. So I'm going to lose my land to here or to here. Right. Where am I going now? What am I doing? And you don't hear anything about it. We looked it up once there was a time where the government accidentally oversent money to Ukraine. They sent them $6 billion. It shouldn't have sent. It's picked up.
How much would it have cost to rebuild every house in Maui from the fires? It's 5 billion. So the extra money that they accidentally sent to Ukraine, they could have sent there and rebuilt every house and had a billion dollars left over. But we have to give you $700. Unreal. That's disgusting. That's disgusting. If you want us to pretend that we're all on the same team, you got to treat us all like we're on the same team.
You can't only be throwing all this money into Ukraine and then there's places in America that suck and you're not doing anything to help these folks. Yeah. Yeah. People will say, well, your tax dollars are unaffected. But at a certain point, it's not even about the, it's just like, do you not, like, if I'm an American and I'm contributing to this business by being an American and being part of the system, does the system not care about me, you know?
But I guess everybody thinks about that in different ways, so. Well, I think whenever you have a system, I'm out of my mind. System, you know, the system is a bunch of people. And so when you have a bunch of people, an enormous amount of people, it's too many people to think about as individuals. You think about it as numbers. And that's what the sort of sociopath version of a government, they just think of you as a number.
Yeah. But when people start to lose their part, like if you start to lose your sense of being an American, that's big for a lot of people, right? So then it's a sense of purpose, right? One of the senses of purpose is I feel like that we get, or like having a job, having a family or somebody that loves you or that you love, or having, being a part of a country, right? Being a part of a fabric of a society.
And when those things start to erode, some of those things, and if you don't have any other ones to back it up, then people get really rogue, you know? Well, they get rogue, especially if they've been told by the mainstream media forever that if one side wins, you're going to be in a right wing fascist dictatorship. Yeah. That's just fucking pissing me off on our stand. That should be a crime. It should be, well, it's the very least it's like slanderous. Like that's not, it's not true.
You can't back that up. It's not true. Like you're saying something that we have evidence of four years of him being a president and not doing that. And what does fascist mean? Let's look up the actual definition. There's a bunch of different versions of it. It's usually connected to a right wing, authoritarian ideology, and a power of the state over people.
And it gets twisted around a lot because it's also, you could also say it's fascist to impose certain ideas on people, demand certain speech, which is, which would make a lot of left wing people fascist as well.
Our right authoritarian and utilitarian ultra-nationalist political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy militarism, forceful suppression of opposition, belief in natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for their perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and economy opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism.
Fascism is placed on the far right wing within the traditional left right wing spectrum. Who's doing that? No one is. So it's like, it's a bullshit term that you're throwing on a guy who has a different political philosophy than you. Put it back up again, please. It's like, there's real fascists in the world. There's really dangerous people. That guy's not. He's got a big ego. He says ridiculous things. Who's talking about Trump?
He doesn't behave like a guy that you think of in a traditional sense of being the president. But no, he just seems like just an older guy who kind of has likes being Donald Trump. And he loves being Donald Trump. But I think he's got some good ideas that a lot of businessmen agree with. Well, I think you need a businessman to do this. It's not a, we don't live in a, like, this, like, care bear world anymore. Our politics, it's become a dirty fucking business.
So I think you want a businessman in there. Like, I don't care if somebody, like, somebody's attitude. Can the guy do business? Well, that's who I think. Because it's not, it's not, it's all business now. Like, we've been, it's been sold out. It's like, I don't feel like it's this, I don't know. Does that make any sense, dude? Sorry, dude. I'm fucking having a day, man. No, don't apologize. I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. Yeah, it is business.
But it's like, you want a shrewd businessman. I don't need Mary Poppins in there, right? Right. I don't need somebody to tell me everything's okay. I need just like, I need somebody to make our fucking food safe. I need somebody to make our street safe. And that's all I really need.
Like, I feel like if I'm paying taxes, then those are the things that I should expect at my FDA and that my police department, which I'm paying for are going to be able to make sure that I can raise a family and raise them helpily and make it home from work to see my children. I feel like I don't have any children yet, but I already feel, you know, that's what I feel like people want. I don't care about anything else. Yeah, I think most people feel the same way.
They just want to be safe and happy. RFK Jr. tweeted something. See if you can find that. Well, Adam McKay had a great, great tweet. But our RFK treated like a message to... The thing you said yesterday? What is it, the RFK one? Yeah, it's a long, right? Yeah. Yeah. What's the matter, bro? There's seven to the worst day today, man. I got it right here if you wanted to. Sorry. Be in a downer. No, you're not being a downer. But you keep wasn't it? Yeah, I'm sorry, man. Look at that.
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Number one, preserve your records, and number two, pack your bags. Pfff, pfff, pfff, pfff, whoa. That's crazy about Trump winning. That's what's crazy. Yeah, that's the thing. I like, and then you got this. People like Tulsi, that's the type of person you want, Congresswoman, for eight years, like impeccable character. And then you've got Vivek, who's a genius. You got JD Vance, who's fucking brilliant as well. Oh, he's great. You have a bunch of good people with him this go around.
Well, yeah, it's like, we gotta like get people off each other's necks, man. You know, that's what we gotta do. We gotta get people to like stop attacking each other. It's so crazy. Well, I felt a sense of like, even after the election was over, I thought like people, everything just felt kind of calm. Yeah, well, it's a team thing, dude. It's like your team lost. It really is. It's these people that are super addicted to politics.
They're like people who don't fall sports, never played any games. This is the way they compete. They compete for the most important thing. Like who gets to dictate the tone of the country? Right. I've never expected politics to have any effect on my life. Even when I was a kid, I didn't, my mom told us to never depend on the government for anything. It's like, you just have to figure it out. Yeah. Like they used to have some rich dude or whatever.
Like our street, it would like cut between the highway and this other road where people would go. And so they had a guy who was like a veteran area or whatever. And he would go down our street, he would stop and throw out like, he was a veteran area. And he would throw animal carcasses into our ditch and shit. So he's like dead cats and shit? Yeah, dead animals, different animals. Nothing really, I would say medium size, probably 32 waist and lower, right?
He would throw those bitches out into the hug and I guess does this get rid of them. And our neighbor who was like the poor neighbor who was like, who gives a fuck about these people, right? A lot of asshole. Totally. But we call... Just throw them on the streets? Throw them in the ditch. But we call the police and they'd be like, yeah, we'll help and they would never come. And my mom was like, don't ever, I remember telling us, do not ever expect the government to fucking help you do anything.
You have to do shit yourself, you know? Also cops don't want to take dead animals and fucking pick it up and put in a bag. That's not what they signed up for. Yeah, I don't know. And they don't investigate the, let's see what kind of animal was this. It's investigation. Yeah, it was this veterinarian. And he would just throw those bitches.
And sometimes we, you know, after they died or whatever, like after they, like, you know, after the bones got blanced or whatever by the sun, we would fucking throw, you know, do like games or shit, but nothing. What? You know, throwing each other, you fucking do. Is it throwing bones at each other? Yeah, fuck his six ribcages there. Yeah. You know, bro, welcome to Haiti, dude. It was fucking sick a lot. Yeah, got immunized by the, all the bacteria and finding dead animals.
Yeah, we had a good time, but nothing like that snake head and that ditch. Bring that thing back up there. I wonder how many fucking kids that get helicopter parented get allergic to more shit? Cause they don't get exposed to things. They're not crawling around, playing in dirt and shit. All that stuff's probably gotta be good for your body, right when you're little kids, especially playing in dirt, playing outside. Oh, yeah, if you're just sheltered or whatever?
Yeah. Just for your biome, it's gotta be good for you. You know, I'm trying to think of what was in our biome or whatever. Or whatever. You know, I gotta ask my mom, I guess. Yeah, that snake was crazy. That's the crazy thing to me, man. I've seen a snake eat something like that. Do you know how many snakes there are in the Everglades? There's more pythons. More pythons in the Everglades. I would guess 150th, oh no, that's even low a bet. I would bet 200,000.
500. That's just a rough estimation that could be off by a factor of who fucking knows. They don't really know. It's dense, dense, dense, dense jungle. Yeah, and the guy you're asking is probably like, yeah, it's probably five. I just do it in here, Python cowboy. He goes and hunts for him. He's got a dog and the dog will find the nests. Let's just say that. He's pulling these giant ass pythons out of nests for all of them. That dog's been sexually assaulted on that. I'll say that, dude.
That dog's a psychopath. It's going after something that can easily swallow it. Yeah, that's a 77 pound deer. You see that? Yeah, dude. I think it's a damn sixth grader, dude. They'd alligator's. That's crazy. This is the crazy thing. Because of the introduction of pythons into the Everglades, 90% of all the mammals are missing. There's no mammals anymore. Oh, they ate them all. They ate them all. There's 90% of them. How long does it take a snake to eat something that big?
Well, the thing is the number of snakes. Like, it's the perfect environment for those animals. Like, it's like, they just dropped off and paradise. Nothing eats them. There's no crocodiles. Snakes, yeah. They're living there. Some alligators must eat some of them. But how long does it take a snake to eat some? Look at this. In 2012, study found that populations of raccoon had declined 99.3% apostles, 98.9% and Bobcats, 87.5% since 1997.
Marsh rabbits, cottontail rabbits, and foxes effectively disappeared over that time. Got it. So they've essentially eradicated all the rabbits and the foxes. But how long does it die? I mean, it's unbelievable. But how long does Satan work in as well? And how long does it take? How long does it take a snake to digest some? Like, how long does it take once it gets that deer? That's a good question. I wonder. I know that, like, is it days or is it like weeks? Let's guess.
Okay. A full deer, one week. I say one week. Ooh, that's pretty good guess. I was like, because there's like antlers and shit and hoots. Yeah, yeah. Wish I guessed that. Do you think they swallowed antlers? Do they go for the bucks and swallow antlers? Well, I've been, imagine swallow it. You feel like such an asshole when the antler was going down. He'd be like, oh my god, I can't believe I swallowed the antler. It's going to take forever to break down.
He's just going to be rolling around with antlers inside your chest forever. Yeah. Oh, everywhere you go. Ow, ow. Just to revenge that deer. No comfort way to sleep. And what did they do with the antlers, man? Well, they must die. I'm sure they just get to that point and the rest of the body is deep. Well, the antler is just bone, but it's so pokey. Like, look at it. I would bet three weeks. Isn't that the wildest thing nature does, dude? Nature gives them weapons for a few months.
This is what happens with a deer. And when they stop breeding, these fall off every year. So you find them on the ground, they call them sheds. You can only defend yourself while you're breeding. Exactly. And it's offensive as much as it's defensive. They run at each other and clash. You see them fighting. It happens all the time. It's pretty fucking cool. They go after each other and just fuck each other up. And yeah, they'll see them sometimes hooked together.
Yeah. I mean, nature is dangerous. Nature is really, really, really fun. Believe what's it? That's the number one person in the world. I saw a horrible video of these two deer that got locked together. So they have clashing antlers that got locked together. And one of them got eaten by a coyote. So one was still alive, connected to this body. Could have get away while the other one got torn apart by a coyote.
And it was just dumb luck that the coyotes picked him versus that, because neither one of them can get away. The coyotes recognized they were locked into each other and just picked one and went after him, just gutted him. That's like we're in a three. Somebody wants to touch you, kind of, you know. He's trying to eat one with antlers and got fucked up. Oh, God. Oh, it cut his own body open. It fails on it. Oh, it split his body wide open. Oh, my God. Oh, look at his mouth.
He's got the antler stuck through his fucking jaw. I would hate some. I hate it when people take it. Oh, he slid off of it. Wow. I hate it when people take a long time to eat, you know. Where right through him. But don't you hate that though? Like when you're eating and somebody, you're done eating and they're still eating. That doesn't bother me at all. That bothers you? Yeah. Why? It doesn't bother me even a little bit. Really? Yeah, like you're at a restaurant and they're done.
Right, they're done and you have to fucking, you're done. And they're still just still eating. Yeah. We'll just talk to them. Yeah, but then you gotta, you gotta give the pretend like you're still like scraping your bowl or whatever. No. No. You're thinking too much. I think it's crazy to sit there, watch somebody eat. That's cool. Yeah, bro. Why? Cause they're eating. Yeah, but you were eating with them too. Yeah, but you're done. So what? Now you're just gonna fucking look at him.
I'm just gonna look at him. Look how is it? Tell me about each bite. No. I don't know. Yeah, I just, I feel like if somebody's already, if I don't like, I don't like when people eat real slow. Okay. It makes me nervous. Well, you should just like be real clear about that before you go out with someone. Like, let's eat it. Okay, like we can eat together, but I got this thing. Like when I'm done, you're done.
Yeah. Imagine if you like super reasonable boyfriend in every other way, but you just had this rule. When I'm done eating, no one eats. And she's like, well, this is bullshit. Like, I know it sounds crazy. I can't kick it. It's, I have a tick. I have a psychological problem. I can't just sit there. So when I'm done eating, you have to be done. And I don't eat fast. I don't eat fast, but I'm warning you when I fucking bell rings. Bonapetimes up. All four are on the table. Bonapetimes up, dude.
That would be the weirdest thing that you were obsessed with. You have to, you have to end at the exact same time. Last bite. Yeah, I just, that would make me, I just, yeah. That kind of stuff. Little things kind of make me uncomfortable, dude. But that, what else is that thinking about? Pytons. Yeah, pythons, whales or whatever. Big animals. Dude, it's crazy. How they have all those Airbnb's now, where it's like, you can stay in like a, like a hollowed out whale carcass out here on the market.
Now it's like, like Airbnb's, bring up some Airbnb's. Please, sir. They've gotten weird. It's like, welcome to this. It's like, oh, it's like, welcome to this two story whale carcass down here at Puntavere Day, Mexico. They make up. It's like, Puntas, every month there's a new Puntavere. Mexico, you're like, what the fuck are we doing? We renamed to city. Every time it's like, welcome to fucking Puntapescado, Mexico. You want to stay in this two bedroom? You can stay in that. It's a potato.
It's a giant potato. What is that? What did they call it? Okay, 10 weirdest Airbnb listings, let you sleep in a shoe, an elephant, and a flying saucer. It's a six potato. Let's go to the flying saucer. Oh, shit. I'm staying here. That's yours, dude. Bro, if I wasn't married, I'd have the stupidest house. My house would, one of two things, I'd either have it built into the side of a hill, like the Hobbit. Ooh, yeah. That would be kind of dope. Or I would go full spaceship.
Yeah. Just a house where a 16 year old boy would see it be like, dude. Yeah, it just appeared to the child, didn't you? I can't rock five. Totally. Totally. But did rocks, White House, I maintain, is the coolest celebrity house I've ever been to. It's one of one, man. It's not just one of one. He's the only one that would even think about doing that. It's like him and maybe John Daly would build a fucking White House. John Daly's unbelievable, dude.
Every time I go somewhere, every time he's there, he gets an ambulance take some home. It's fucking me. Unbelievable, dude. Every time I'm there, it's almost like he hits a hole in heaven, dude. I'm like, this motherfucker's headed. One time, the ambulance came, they came in to look for him. He went out and sat in the ambulance to ride home with him, bro. Oh my god. And they're in the place and they're like, where is he? And we're like, he's there's something everybody loves.
Reigns and regulations. About the overweight dude who's really good at a game. Dude, do you see that golfer girl though, the girl that smokes the female John Daly, dude? No. Yeah, puffing. Oh, yeah. She's smoking cigarettes? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, she's hot. Yeah. Whoa. Welcome to those in love. Welcome to 1984. It's coming back. Let's do it, dude. Let's go. Because I got to get a damn wife, Joe Rogan. That's your move. Get yourself a golfer wife. Someone, oh look at that.
Smoking cigarettes, looking hot. Yeah. Let me see. Ooh, baby. Oh, fuck. And smoking in front of everybody too. Yeah, she just rips starts on the. Yeah. Is she from England? Yeah. Ah, there you go. Puffer McGav and dude. They over there, they just fucking smoke. They smoke a lot more over there. Everybody's got a goddamn cigarette. Oh, yeah. I'll smoke that lady. I bet you will. Sorry, that's insane. That sounds like a deadlift. John Daly is like, also man, she could be married. I have no idea.
Yeah, right? Don't be rude. Yes, sorry, man. I don't know. I'm just fucking, everything's high strong today. There was a professional pool player in the entertainment. I want to order it all. Kid delicious. And everybody loved them because he was this big fat dude who played really good. But it was the big fat guy thing that people liked. Right. Oh, you'll have to be an athlete. You have to be any good.
You have to be a guy eating salads and fucking getting up in the morning doing yoga before he comes to the pool hall. No. This guy is out there eating hot dogs. That was kid delicious. Yeah. It's a great book about him. John Worthheim, I think, is a name running the table. Yeah. I have people love short term fats, man. There's something about it. You know there's a bigger guy and you know he, you think he's not going to live long.
There's an exceptional amount of love that goes into them immediate. But John daily back in the day wasn't fat. He's like an athlete. No, this is just a lifetime of like living hard. Oh, he's a fucking right there. He was fucking stout dude. Oh, he looks, you know, John is an exceptional guy. Great storyteller. He's a fucking, he's the Santa Claus of every 7-Eleven I've ever been to. Look at that hair. But he's a guy that's been playing golf for like how many fucking years now, you know?
I don't know. Definitely. You know that feel you must have for that ball playing professional golf for all those years. You know, he'll hit a 68 in an ICU dude. This guy is one of a con I feel like, you know, nobody could do it like him. He's exceptional. All he drinks is Diet Coke. Yeah. He doesn't like water. Yeah. He likes things out of the diet. I'm sure, but he doesn't drink water. Now he's drinking alcohol too. Yeah. Don't you want to stay at this air?
Don't you want to stay in this hollowed out moose carcass out here in Bandoorigan? Do you? It's it's a don't you want to stay in our tree house? That's how I built this. Where do I shit? Air B and B's have gotten so crazy. Don't people rent out like tents and shit? Yeah, it's like they'll they'll supply you the tent and everything like that. It's just like regular shit people like yeah, we'll go stay there. You know, I'm not sleeping.
If you don't want to set up a tent like I like camping, but I'm too lazy to set up a tent. They'll just show up in your house. You know, you get them rods and shit, you get the paint in the butt. They're in fucking, it's all like, and you look sad in front of your wife too. You're like, and you're tying it down, dink, dink, dink, dink, dink, dink, dink, dink, dink, dink, and then you realize and you're just sleeping in a little cloth house. Yeah. And the woods. Oh, my bunny.
Yeah, there's an Air B and B tent. That's nice, dude. That's probably an Austin. You can fucking this tent, bro. Fuck yeah. Let's go. You ever did a lot of fucking outdoors or what was your life like? I'm a fucking zool. I ain't scared of mosquitoes. I'm an outdoor fucker. Whenever possible. Did you ever do anywhere you were younger, Joe? Yeah, stuck away in the woods. Me and this one girl, we were fooling around the woods. We never got to the actual sex part. We got close.
We got eight alive by mosquitoes. We tried to get naked outside. And so like literally our whole body, so it's covered in mosquito bites. It was horrific. We all near a streamer. Was it more landlocked there? It was near a river. Yeah. Yeah, it was near the Charles River. Yeah. Kids would just go into the woods. You know, we always find kids drinking in the woods. Yeah. Like we lived in an area. I lived in Newton, Massachusetts when I was in high school.
And Newton is a great town, like a really cool area. And where I lived was called Upper Falls. There was all these like woods and trees and shit. And the river was right across the street from my house. And it was like, it was always these wild kids like playing Billy Squire on a boom box and smoking cigarettes. It was like the outsiders. It was really interesting. And then one kid would get a car, like, oh shit, Bobby's got a car. Oh, that was the best dude. Boom, boom, boom.
Bobby's driving us around. Like rock for fiscates. And the trunk is coming down the street. Dude, this day, one of my favorite cars, I have a 1970 Chevelle. And I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, bring it up, Bobby. Like to say. When I was a kid, before I had a car, my friend picked me up in his buddy's car. I didn't know that other dude. I met him from school or something like that, but I didn't know him. And he picked me up in this 1970 Chevelle. It was black with white stripes.
And it was perfect. And I remember I saw it as like, how does he own this? How can you own this? Yeah. That's how I felt. I was sitting in the back seat of the car. I was like, this car is so crazy that you could own this car. And I remember he ran out of gas. It coasted right into the gas station and stopped the car in front. It was like the coolest thing I'd ever seen in the whole thing. That's the better. The guy owned that car somehow.
As a 16 year old boy, I was looking at this car going, how did you do this? How did you do this? Let's see it. No, that's a different car, Jamie. That's my 1970 Baracuda. That's a beautiful one. I don't think the 70 Chevelle is on anywhere. It's just a Google Black 70 Chevelle SS white stripes. Dude, there's nothing like that. There's nothing like running at a gas and coast into the fucking pump. Mine looks almost exactly like that.
But that's exactly like this kid's looked when he picked me up and I got a ride in his car. It was like, this is 69. That's another amazing car. But the upper one in the middle, that's my actual car. That's my car. Wow. Yeah. Dude, I love that thing. That's my favorite, I think. I love it so much. It just, because it brings me back to that moment when I was a 16 year old kid, and this guy had this car, I was like, how do you have this car? How is this even possible that you have this car?
Yeah. Oh, that was great, dude. If an older kid picked you up when you were a kid and he had a car that was like, getting into like somebody who had a car's car when you couldn't even have a car was the craziest feeling out there. You couldn't believe it. Yeah, you were like, what? The things that we completely take for granted. Like, your buddy picks you up and give you a ride. Like, hey, what's up? What's up? How's it going on? It's normal for you now.
Like, oh, I'm just sitting in the back seat in my friend's car. But back then, it was like, whoa. Whoa. How do you, yeah, hey, play something cool in the radio. Everything meant something. I remember my friend, Mike, was taking flying lessons when I was in high school. And I went up in an airplane with him when I was 14. We were both 14. And he was taking flight lessons. And he was like, what the fuck? I'm letting this 14 year old kid fly me around with him in a plane and an instructor.
Yeah, but back then, you would just, you would do shit. You were so thrilled just to get out of your fucking house. You'd hop in your buddy's back seat. Like, where are we going? Yeah. I don't know, man. We're gonna go to Bobby's house. All right, you're listening to songs on the radio. You couldn't believe you were in a car.
Yeah. And I had to like, if your hand was out the window, the window was down, if the window was up, how you were operating, if the seatbelt was on, if your arms were over this, yes. You want to look cool? You want to hand the steering wheel, one hand out the window. And you thought everybody you drove past looked at you. Sup, kids. Yeah. Yeah. What's up, kid? Just looking for some. I remember those was one dude days, man.
When I was in high school, there was this one dude who was like, I think he was a couple of years older than us. And he graduated, but he was dating a girl that still went to the high school. And he had an I Rock Z. You do? With the T-tops or no? Yeah. Come on, man. I have the T-tops. And this dude pulled in from the high school and everybody like couldn't believe it. He was like the coolest guy alive. Look at him in his I Rock Z, picking up the girl at none of us can beat rock.
We saw you, Joe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, got a fucking remember that shit, dude. I remember my brother one time fucking, I got more of the story. Sorry, go on. That dude who had that I Rock ran over a guy accidentally and dragged them through the city for miles. Just tried to like get the body out from under his car a couple of times but couldn't do it, but just kept driving. So driving around this I Rock Z with a person stuck under the car driving from miles. I hate that kind of thing.
Have you ever had like a bag stuck under your car or whatever? Yes, that's different. I'm joking. I feel like if you drive over someone, maybe pull over. Hey, maybe pull over. But I don't know, pull it out. What do you do at that point? There's like guys that you hear about from high school. It's like you feel like you're in a Stephen King book. Like, yes. Yeah, or something like that, you know? Oh, totally. Everything felt like kind of the head of the Stephen King vibes back then, you know?
Well, just people just disappeared back then and there was no phones and there was no internet. And you barely remembered people if you didn't see them for a month. Yeah. Like you didn't even have a picture. I have like five pictures of my friends from high school, you know? And mostly because my friend Jimmy sends them to me. But it's like you don't remember. You don't remember what anybody looked like. You don't remember anything. But now too much. Now you know everything.
But back then, it's like you would hear about this. Like one of the guys you went to high school with, you got in trouble and like, oh, no. Now he's in jail. Whoa. He's hot in jail. Yeah. Whoa. I remember I met this one dude who just got out of jail. Yeah. It was friends of my friend. The first guy I ever met that was in jail. Mm-hmm. Yeah, just the weirdest vibe. The I had a buddy of mine who actually, it was a training partner of mine who was one guy.
He was like this one way and then he went to jail in a drug charge. And he came out like three years later. Yeah. He was a totally different person. Oh, wow. He was super jacked. I don't know if he was doing steroids or what, but he was like really jacked and fucking aggressive and super dangerous. And he was telling me these stories about jail and about all the fights that he had gotten into in jail. And he got like almost like a fight to the death of the amobstick in this guy.
He was telling me these horrific fights and it had just changed him, man. I mean, I never experienced something like that before where I knew a guy before he went to prison and then I knew him after prison and he was just a completely different person and fucking very dangerous to spar with. Like very dangerous. Yeah. We try to kill you. We would have wars. Like they weren't really sparring matches. They were fights. People were, yeah, some people got dangerous, dude.
Especially if they got on the drugs or got on the gear, you know? This guy, this guy I think was both. I think he was on gear and I think he was doing coke because I know he was selling coke. I know he was getting coke for girls and stuff like that. He wound up dying, but here's where it gets really crazy. While I knew this guy, like while he was training at the same gym as me, he got arrested and questioned in this murder where this guy who was an informant, I think he was an informant.
They found him where he had been repeatedly injected with cocaine to keep him alive while they were breaking his bones. So from him blacking out from the pain, they were injecting him with cocaine to keep him awake and conscious while they were breaking his bones with a hammer. I think then they, I think they cut his hands in his head off too and he got, he got, he got implicated or at least questioned about that. Imagine even being in the other room while that's going on.
Yeah. Even trying to watch a show or whatever, or just like, keep it down. Can't you guys insulate your torture house? It's fucking up the rest of the neighborhood. Yeah, I mean, what the fuck dude? I would never be able to torture somebody I don't think. I would be able, I'm trying to think of the things I could do to somebody. You might be able to do something to someone did something to your loved ones.
I think we would be surprised that we're like a mother would do if she caught some person doing something to one of her children. Children, yeah. And a father too, huh? Yeah, but I mean, even mothers who you wouldn't think of as being like violent. And do you think that's a choice they make? Are you think it's something that's just inside of you? It's inside of you. And there's a choice too, but it's inside of you.
Like, we have instincts to protect our kids, you know, and you can get crazy violent. Yeah. And normal regular people can get crazy violent to protect their children. And it also seemed like there's a lot of cases now where people are deceasing their own children. Killing their own children? Yeah. There's always been that, man. There's always been evil people. But it's just crazy, you know. It's crazy that people have children. Yeah, man.
And people that poison their kids, there's this, there's evil people out there. And in every, you know, stretch of the world, you're going to get a certain percentage of our population that just doesn't come out right, you know. And that's normal. It's like everything. There's always a percentage that it's just not right, yeah. There's always a lot.
Well, whatever that's struggled that the human race is involved in is, if you wanted to break it down and I just feel sofically, it's essentially a struggle between good and evil always. It's always a struggle between good and evil. Yeah. And you're always going to have a certain amount of evil that you have to overcome. And I think that amount of evil that you overcome should be small, but I think it enforces this idea to do good.
And that good conquer is evil if everybody works together cooperatively. But you need something. If you don't have resistance, it feels like people, what the way we're designed to constantly try to innovate and make better things and improve upon society and improve upon our own lives, we're always like trying for progress, right? I think that's all tied in to competition and competition needs a foe. You need an antagonist and a protagonist. You need resistance.
And I think the unfortunate thing is that there is evil in the world. The fortunate thing is that evil makes you appreciate love and it motivates people to stop evil and it motivates people to limit evil. The calls for law and order in this country during the riots. Remember, whenever it was like, we need law and order. We need law and order. You can't have people breaking into things and stealing everything in law and order. That kind of stuff is like, that's good versus evil.
It's evil to just smash windows and steal things in the name of some guy that you don't know who died in justly. That's crazy. You're just using this as an opportunity. There's a fuck everyone. You can't have people just running around saying fuck everyone and lighting things on fire. You can't have that. You can't have that. So when you encounter these different things, it makes you appreciate not having those things so it motivates you.
One of the things that got people excited about Trump being in office is that he wanted to get away from all this defund the police shit. He wanted to get the country back to law and order. He wants us to increase manufacturing, increase in all the things that make people feel good about the future. We'll give you a purpose. They didn't feel that way about the message that they were hearing from the other side. They felt like it was going to be more of the same shit.
And more of the same shit doesn't get anything done. We still keep getting involved in these wars that we don't want to be involved in. Yeah, shut it down. Shut down. Everything it doesn't have to do with us, I feel like for a while. It's like, there's just a lot of stuff that we haven't even healed from in this country. That's the biggest thing. I think there's a lot of things that we haven't healed from that we should try to address as a group.
And that could be everything from Native American times, slavery times, opioid epidemic. There's tons of things I feel like that. I don't know how you do that. I mean, I know time has a lot to do with it, but it's like, I just don't know if sending our resources elsewhere is the most important thing right now when it's like we could try at least. Trump thinks he can fix these overseas conflicts. I don't know if he can. But the point is something has to be done.
We can't just keep throwing money at war and ignoring ourselves. That seems crazy. And if you're saying we're not ignoring ourselves, well, we're not spending the money and the resources that we need to fix all the problems that we have. Yeah, it's like, even if you look at like, recently I learned, sorry, recently I learned that the number one cause of medical debt is insurance, medical debt is the number one cause of bankruptcy in America, right? Is it really? Yeah, that's crazy.
That makes sense. It's crazy that there's such a laundering system that goes on. It's money laundering. Well, it's, you have the things that are in insurance companies. There's definitely, I mean, you can talk to Brigham Bealur from Waste Well. He'll explain to you. Yeah, I've spent there the other day. He's the man. I went to Kuyah and I went there, dude. Nice. I've been trying to get well while I'm here. I'll try to get, get well. It's been tough. But were we just talking about medical debt?
Medical debt. He'll explain it real well. It's like, it's kind of a fucked up system. But it just makes sense that that would be the number one reason why people would go bankrupt because you're out of work because you got a medical issue. Then you have medical bills. If you don't have insurance, you really fucked. You don't have insurance. But it's just a scam. The prices for our drugs are so much more than other countries.
Just things that it's like, our government doesn't want to make better deals because there is this middle man that's making a lot of money off of it, you know? There's that. I don't know. There's definitely a lot of influence with a lot of money. I don't know. And also companies that we need, you know? Pfizer makes good stuff. I mean, these companies make really beneficial drugs too. Yeah. But it's just the problem with all these fucking people is they just want to make more money constantly.
If they get you taking more pills than you need, they will. That's how they sell. They want to sell pills. They can come up with a reason. Are you anxious? I am a little. Hey. Hey, you go. And next thing, you know, you're dependent. Yeah, it's like, do you have two legs? You've ever been on a bicycle? The things are just crazy, you know? Do you have meat? Yeah. You have read oatmeal, praising cookies, and you're like, well, fucking, this is me, I think. We can't let them advertise. That's true.
People are still going to buy the drugs, but the advertising thing is crazy because it affects the media too. It affects what people are allowed to investigate. It affects what the news is because the news is not going to give you everything. They're going to conveniently ignore things that would affect their partnerships. Yeah. Yeah, if you have a, yeah, it's all advertising. Yeah. What did we say was again?
The amount of billions of dollars they spend every year on advertising, pharmaceutical drug companies. Did you, were you, were you nervous about endorsing Trump or now? I usually try to stay out of it. Yeah. But I felt like I was getting urged to by Dana and every, there was quite a few people. I didn't think it makes a difference. I kind of already stated what I thought about the way things were going and that some radical change need to take place.
Yeah. In my opinion, I just, I'm not buying like, you know, when we're talking about before with the way the country feels, like the way the country felt when Biden was in office was shaky. Because regardless of what you thought about his policies, what you did in place, it was real clear something was wrong with him. And they were lying to us. Oh, yeah. So that alone makes the whole country feel uneasy, right?
Even if you think that the administration is moving certain policies and certain things are moving in the right direction, the economy is moving in the right, right, general direction, even if you agree to those things, when you have a guy that's at the front that's obviously some, in some way compromised or something going on. Something going on that they don't want to admit. Yeah. And everybody knows it and he drifts off and he says things don't make sense and something's wrong.
So everybody feels uncomfortable, even if everything's going well, right? Because for good or for bad, that person that's in that office kind of sets a tone for the country. And the tone for the last four years was confusion. So regardless of their policies, the tone that's being established whenever he talks or whenever she does interviews or she talks is a confusing talk.
There's word salad and then there's like these moments where it seems like she doesn't know how to wrap up a sentence, which can just be nerves. It can just be nerves talking in front of large groups. It doesn't mean she's not brilliant. It doesn't, it really doesn't. Some people, she was new and kind of thrown into it. But some people clam up when they have to do those things. But then there's the argument that's the job though.
You have to be able to do that because you're going to have to be able to talk to Putin and presidents of these different countries and leaders throughout the world. You got to be able to handle pressure. So that's kind of part of it too. Kind of part of it too is you got to be able to handle pressure. But the thing that people worry about Trump is that he's so antagonistic. And that then that's the tone of the country.
And the tone of the country is not like the tone of the Obama administration I always felt was the best because he was measured, never attacked anybody. It was very articulate and smooth. It was smooth. It was not a lot of ums and, like some people, they, Trump throws too many extra words in, but it's just his flavor. His flavor is he rambles, he goes all over the place like I joke, look at this hair, what is wrong with my hair. He makes fun. He's like doing stand-up up there.
Obama was the smoothest and Clinton, Clinton was pretty fucking smooth too. Maybe Clinton and Obama, those are the goats. So like when you get a person for good or for bad, that's smooth and talks like a professional, like an actual president, it makes everybody like, oh, he's got this. This guy's a real professional, real professional president, like look at him. With Trump, you're like, I hate Taylor Swift. Like no, don't do that. Don't say that. Yeah, you just the wrong button today, buddy.
He tweeted out that this, that lady that he allegedly slept with was, you call her horse face. What was the president? He's so crazy to do. It's fucking unreal. But for a lot of like super sensitive people and progressive people, that's why they want to believe that he's Hitler. They want to believe that they look at these things and then they don't look at it as like a flavor in the soup like, look, it's all pepper. No, it's not all pepper. Like pepper is a part of it.
Yeah, he probably shouldn't tweet, I hate Taylor Swift, but whatever. What's important is like, what is he going to do in terms of fix all these problems that everybody agrees are real problems? And can he do it? And can he keep all these people in his staff, RFK, Jr.? I don't know. I don't know if he can do it. But if he can, at least we have hope. If RFK really does the things that we think he wants to do and starts to kind of clean up some of the corruption and it's exciting.
It'd be exciting. It'd be good for you, Bill. If we stop putting ingredients and foods that are illegal in Canada because they're dangerous, how about we stop doing that here? Yeah. Seems like a logical thing. It's not like fruit loops in Canada sell that less. Yeah. It's probably equal sales. Like people would get unaddicted quick, you're really just getting people addicted to things, you know.
And how about we prosecute that fucking sackler family that fucking killed hundreds of thousands of people in our country? How about that? How about that? Yeah. Well, you saw the whole thing where they were trying to buy immunity. They were trying to buy immunity. They were going to have like a settlement where they'd give X amount of billions of dollars within their immune to prosecution. But in that way, they did though.
But I think what happened was they put a pause on that after the Netflix documentary came out. Wow. We talked about it once, but I don't know where it's at now, but that family, they made billions of dollars by getting people hooked on opiates. Unfucking, this family is mass murderers. If they, anybody with the last night, they should, I don't give, I kicked that gene pool out of our fucking country. Those people are fucking murderers, dude.
I think a lot of people still haven't gotten over that shit. And do you know that was the same family that was involved in volume? Yeah. I do know that. People help her, that was volume. That's what ladies in the fucking, sick and fucking lizard. Get those motherfuckers out of here. And that's one thing. That was one of the reasons why I was like supportive of events. Like, you know, like, I just believe he has a soft spot for that type of thing.
And I hope that it'll get, I don't know if he can do anything because lobbies are so big now. Wasn't someone in his family, and addict? Yeah, his mother suffered from addiction, you know? Right. But he's just seen it, you know? Make sure that the Sacrifice Family was involved in the volume thing. I don't want to have to edit that out. If I called him a piece of shit about one thing, but hey, we were in a piece of shit about that other thing, I think they were though.
I just, that's like even thinking about it, bro, it makes me so angry, you know? Here it is. You know the family and member, yeah, Arthur Sackler. Remember the Sackler family was a major figure in the promotion of volume through direct marketing to physicians in the 1960s. Yeah, that is it. So same family. Yeah. Evil. Evil. It's literally evil. Like, it's destroying lives. Yeah. It's a drug dealer. It's one of the worst drug dealers because you're sneaking around with doctors.
Yeah. You're sneaking around under the, you know, this, this guys of authority. Well, one of the problems is that the safety you work for a politician, right? In, in DC, right? They can only pay you so much money by law, right? To work with them and be like, help put their bills together. Right. So at a certain point, the lobbyists can pay more to those same people who have been writing bills for the congressmen and for the senators. So they then go to work as lobbyists.
That's one of the biggest problems. So a lot of it is that we have a cap on certain salaries, right? And that we also have a law that, we also don't have a law that stops people once you work for one side that you can't work for the other. Right. Right. That's the thing with the FDA and pharmaceutical company. Right. And I'm not saying that there's, I don't know the answer. I'm just saying that that's one of the thing. That's one of the reasons why that happened. It's a conflict of interest.
Right. For sure. Just nobody regulated it. They allowed it to happen. It should be if you were working for the FDA, should never be able to leave and go to a pharmaceutical drug company where you then make incredible amounts of money. That seems like a conflict of interest. Like you would be willing to do, if you had conversations with these people and they'd say, listen, you're nice to us in a couple of years. Gold and parachute. You want a yacht? I think you need a yacht.
And next, you know, you're a millionaire. Like which is bizarre that you can do that. Just as bizarre as the whole insider trading in Congress. You know that a bill is going to get passed. You know this bill is going to affect a stock. You gamble high on that stock. The bill gets passed and you make a lot of money. That seems illegal. That seems illegal. Yes, cheating. That seems crazy. But there's a lot of those things, man. And this system was set up by people and people are flawed. Right.
That's a good point. Yeah, it's like, no one's going to do anything perfectly. I don't know. Not just that, accountability and transparency in terms of like what's actually going on is way different now because our access to information is way different now. Like anybody can just sort of Google budgets and Google this and you find out that and you find out things about the Pentagon and that about this. Like, there's just, you don't have to look in the New York Times anymore. Right.
You know, you don't have to wait for the news to come on at five. Now you get it whenever you want it. And that's sort of changed everything with what you can get away with and not get away with. So for the longest time, even though there's rules and the constitution set up in the bill of rights, there's been people that have had a lot of power for a long time without a bunch of people looking at them. And now more people are looking at them than ever before.
And then you get this guy like Trump comes in like, at the eye, the crooked. Wow. Bro, what are you doing? You go to war with the CIA. He's like a drunk uncle, dude. Bro, what about Baron Trump, dude? No, there's no credit like whatever you think about this election. The whole thing to me is fascinating. First of all, because Dana White made so much stuff happen. Oh, yeah. Right? Dana White made the Trump thing happen for sure. He was a, he was trying to get me to have Trump on in like 2017.
Bro, you would hear rumors of that in the distance. Bro, he would call me up. He'd call me up. Joe, listen, the president wants to do your podcast. I go, you mean Trump? He's got to change the name of it. What are you doing, man? Wait, try to get me in trouble. You know, and back then I was like, I don't want to be a part of this. There's too many people are angry. Too many people are pissed off. I was like, I don't need to. And I didn't pay attention to it enough.
I didn't pay attention to the way they were misrepresenting things that he had said enough. Yeah. I didn't really, my wake up call was when they went after me, when CNN went after me. I was like, yeah, this is crazy. You think I'm taking a veterinary jogs pitch? Yeah. What are you talking about? This is the dumb. Also, why are you upset that I got better quick? Like what is this about? Like that I took veterinary drugs and got better quick?
And why in the article, hey, why wouldn't you herald it, say, hey, this could be a possibility? You know, it's like, I'm not only that. It's just the, there's no way they didn't know that it was for humans. Those people, it's all a shit. But when I saw that and that was so minor in comparison, the way they've come up to Trump, because they come up to Trump with lawsuits and all kinds of crazy shit. And I don't think he's a perfect person. I think he's fun.
And I think he's a very competitive guy, which is why you like playing golf so much. And it's why he wouldn't quit until he became the president again. And he pulled it off. And the best thing that I've heard from people on the left is it's not the result that we wanted, but we hope the country can come together. And I think we should all have that mentality. This idea that we're all separate, we're on team USA.
And I think we should just like all publicly state, nobody gives a fuck where you're from, what you do. You're on team USA. We're all in this shit together. That's it. Oh yeah. Let's forget about all this identity politics, nonsense and all. But is that going to happen, you think? If we can put that thought out there instead of everyone's racist, everyone's a Nazi, like, yeah, that ain't helping nobody. You just push in people further and further away.
The people that used to identify as left, they've been forced to these sort of center right positions just to maintain normalcy. And you're beginning puberty blockers to kids and you're opening up gender, affirming care clinics and treating kids like, shut the fuck up. You're not on the right side. You think you're on the right side because you think you're being compassionate. What you're doing is crazy to most people and we don't want it. And we think you might be like in a cult.
Like it's a giant cult of leftists that think crazy things. And they're allowing all sorts of bizarre things to happen in society like the no cash bail thing, like things you think are good. You know, structural racism is why there's so many people in prison. But you can just let people out of shoot people. You can't just have people robbing people and right back out on the street. You can't have that. You can't have that. You'll have a full deterioration of society and no one will thrive.
And you'll be under chaos. You'll be living in the favelas of Rio de Janeiro in just a decade. You can't just keep this trend going. You're going to fall apart. And it's these idealistic utopian people that want these things to happen. These people that believe that Marxism has never been effectively done, but it can be done. You know, there's a version of all of these different communist philosophies that you can impot. There's socialism that could work, right?
There's a version of it that can work and making more equitable for everybody. But the end of that is always one thing. It's totalitarian control over what you say and do. Because as soon as you want to redistribute funds, as soon as you want to tell people they can't have things anymore, then you're going to have to take it from them. Yeah. Well, I think like to me, everything kind of started to feel like this privatized communism, right?
Once the post office didn't work, I was like, the government's fucked, dude. I was like, these bastards can't even get a package to fucking Toledo in two days, dude, you know? But the problem with the post office is that there's like UPS now. Right. But you go in there, dude. It's like a West and there's server liquor at the counter. Like it's not real. Yeah, it's a post office. It's kind of, it's gone downhill. Yeah, liquor.
I mean, they don't put a, you could probably score a gram up there at the cat. Like it's gone. It's gone. You know, the doors is no hinges on it. It's gone. Dude, it's the Wild West over there. Where? Post office you go and do, bro. Every post office. Well, all of them are bad. It, bro, it's 75% of the post offices are, it's gotten, but I just use that as an example of like a government. It just like started to fall apart, right? The last time I saw a post office was the last election.
That was the last time I went to a post office. Well, yeah, it last election when I mail in my California ballot. Yeah. And how many, how many million of them, apparently? How many, oh. And at that time was a, what is that like at least cause for concern that leap in numbers? Yeah. What is it now, Jamie? Do we know what the official numbers are now? The California one hasn't really, I don't know why has an updated mark. California's, they're digging in their heels.
They don't want to make the election real. I don't think either one of these parties is what the people would say like Democrat, they're not the same parties it was 15 years ago. Most people are waking up to that. That's why if you look at the map of California, look at the map of California red and blue from 2016 and then look at it from or rather 2020 and then 2024. There's a giant difference. A giant difference. I mean, a giant difference.
A giant difference in the amount of counties that went red. Yeah. It's just the big population centers are always going to be blue. They're in the trance. If you're in San Francisco and if you're in Los Angeles, you're in the trance. 70% of those people are in the trance. There's this less- But they also believe things that mean something to them. So they're not like, because- Right. But socially, they're connected to all these ideas. And socially, they're all hyper liberal.
They're socially locked into like this mindset. It doesn't allow questioning narratives. It doesn't allow questioning these ideas. So the idea of questioning science was like, there's no way you're- Where science denier? Yeah. You could even say, like, hey, are you sure that these companies who have been lying their entire careers, they've been fucking hit with these giant criminal penalties for lying? We know they lie. You're sure they're telling you the truth about this drug.
When they haven't injected giant swaths of the population with it before, but they're going to do it now. Yeah. And they promise it's going to work. And then they're lying about the promises. They're lying about whether it stops transmission. They never even tested for that. They're lying for whether or not it stops you from being infected and then tested for that either. Well, the same people that own this own the publication company, it's just starting to be so obvious.
It's like, I don't know. I mean, it's just money, man. It's just money. Right. And it's like, what point does money mean over the fact of somebody's peace of mind and health and wellness? Like, that's the thing I don't understand. Because they've used their money wisely to connect it to an ideology. So this is what it is.
If you're a vaccine skeptic or a vaccine denier, even if it's not even really a vaccine, I mean, you're calling it a vaccine, but that's kind of a sneaky move because it doesn't really work like a regular vaccine does. It works completely novel. It's a completely new thing. And if you can connect that with the people that's the logical educated people that are reasonable and convince them that you can't look at it sideways. You can never examine it. You can never question it.
You never question whether or not it's even necessary. You just have to go with it. You can't question whether or not these other therapeutics that all these doctors have these anecdotal stories about people recovering from these antivirals and trying them. You can't, you got to reject that because you have that emergency use authorization thing. That wasn't cool, man. I never took it and guess what? Doing great. You know, yeah, I'm depressed, suffering from depression.
Yeah. I had a lot of issues in back pain today, but you are suffering from depression a lot because still you're not hanging around with us. Come hang out here, man. Come move. This year's been busy, man. I want to, I'm around. If you lived in town, you'd be hanging out all the time. I know. You'd feel better. You'd feel better. You need a little community. I know you, dude. You get weird when you buy yourself too long. You get weird. Oh, and I spend a lot of time by myself.
You know, I thought you called a check to see if people still like you. Did I do that? Yeah. Fuck. That's most of my childhood. Did I really do that? What time you did? Oh, yeah. I believe that. I believe that. What are you talking about? What happened? Nothing. We ain't talked for a while. Wow. Did I really do that? Yeah. I believe you. A hundred percent. Yeah. It was a weird conversation. Fuck. That's the story of my life, dude. I want people to make sure, okay? Yeah, but I know you, man.
So when you call me, I'm like, oh, three of them just need some love. You're out there in the woods by yourself. Can't be alone, man. Well, I think part of me I wanted to do. I've always just wanted to do like my own thing. You know, but things are not going to be good. I'm going to be good. I'm going to be good. I'm going to be good. I'm going to be good. You know, I want people to do, because, you know, I want all kinds of things going in together, that type of space there.
You know, it's a competitive thing. geliyor ass- dude. I've always just... Okay. I really have to say. You know, I might get like over a few years on the internet. I mean, maybe during the virus infection center now when people make out of me, but I've been watching these stuff for a while. I don't remember I used to listen to them. So, you know, or wherever they started to continue. And I've never seen my experiments before when it came to reality. Right. I never saw my parents being anizo.
There were days where you like to say, well. You were trained to do your specific stuff about exactly how you did it. I'll think, it's kind of me thought about this. I'll think to myself, I wanna be in a relationship, but I wanna do it on my own. It's fucking... Oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, oh. I just realized that. That's amazing. But that's how, there's something, it just like... Well, you can marry yourself, people do that. Oh, I would hate that, dude.
I'm always just chasing myself, kind of jerk me off. I would go and get any sleep, dude. Oh, yeah, nightmare. That would be a real problem. I would go and get some sleep, dude. I would go and get some sleep, dude. Oh, yeah, nightmare. That would be a real problem. I would go and get some sleep, dude. I would get any sleep, dude. Oh, yeah, nightmare. That would be a real problem. Yeah, man, I do, I do wanna be around a group more. This year's has been so...
It's like, do not buy yourself, but you are doing it by yourself, right? So you're doing your podcast by yourself, you're doing it, you're stand up by yourself. The thing about a club is, you're doing it by yourself while everybody else is also doing it by themselves. Right, so you're around the same level. But you're hanging out, you're having fun. You're charging up your love batteries. Yeah. That's what it is.
Oh, the other night, even just being there, be able to laugh with Tony and like, like, Ron White was right there. You got Brian Simpson. Yeah. You got Kurt Metzger. Everybody's just watching and dancing and figuring things out. Yeah. And then the fucking... And then the... And then the Kurt, what corner you with them is conspiracy, bro. Did he ever get you? Did he get you? Yeah. Oh, he was a listener, dude. I don't have to grab him. I got cold and I... Underwater River, he helped me under...
Bro, he said he took me to the fucking... I don't... I go... Kurt, I don't even remember the original conspiracy theory that led us to this mind control study that I should have known about. Yeah. You don't know about that! You don't know about that one! Yeah. Jesus, Kurt. Jesus. Giant dudes. He's like looming over you. With conspiracies in his fucking crazy eyebrows. He's like, you don't know about the Van O White conspiracy. You don't know what's behind the ease.
You don't know what's behind the ease. Here's the thing, dude. Until he's in Water River with Jimmy Doerr. He's Water River kind. Jimmy Doerr is cool, huh? I never got to... Jimmy Doerr is a man. I haven't got to see him for years, but I've always been like kind of admirable about him. He's a great dude. He's a great dude. But before he started working for Jimmy, he didn't really have a lot of conspiracies in his head.
You know? He got sort of exposed to all that worker for Jimmy and doing that show. And he's like, oh my god, this whole fucking thing is rigged. And then he just get rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole. That dude will send you a text. And if you send him a text back, he will send you a chain of thoughts. A doctrine. Yeah. Like a scroll. I want to save them. I want to save them. Because that would be a cool, almost like a book to publish.
Like text with Kurt. People would love that too. I love how passionate he is about stuff. He's a smart dude, man. He's very, very smart dude. It was fun. Yeah, that was just fun to see. Who else was there? Just like... Brian Simpson, a son of a... A son was there. Derek was there. Derek was the best dude. Because you tell any joke, if it's good or not, you could look at Derek. And if he's laughing, it's good. Yeah. He's just like... He's a great green room hang.
Yes. He'll let you know on his face immediately. To me, he's the B all in all of something's funny. It's a great person. It's like just a nice guy to be around. That's like the beautiful thing. He's so funny. He is very funny. This is a beautiful thing about the club. Is that there's so many nice people. Yeah. It just... Like I said, he charges up your love batteries. What's we all need in this world? We all need a little more fun. And I'm just hoping that Trump doesn't start attacking people.
That's what I'm hoping. I'm hoping that he just... And I know people around him want to do that. Just concentrate on the positives. Yeah. concentrate on the positives. You got four years to do all sorts of things that could really benefit people. And then you will be remembered as that guy. Well, I just want people to tell us what's really going on. If they can't really do anything because lobbyists are controlling everything, I wish somebody would just tell us that.
Well, I think if anybody's gonna hit him, especially now, and especially with access to podcasts. Right? So if he decides to do your podcast two months after he's in office, and you have questions like that, and all of a sudden Trump could probably tell you, whatever it's not top secret, he could probably tell you. He said he's gonna release the JFK files. We're gonna find out a lot of things. We're gonna find a lot of things.
We're gonna find out whether or not he's gonna really keep RFK Jr. as a part of his organization, or whether he's gonna get pressure from pharmaceutical drug companies, or whoever. If he loses, him, dude, he's getting it. That's not cool. It's not cool. So there's that, and then there's... Is he gonna release the JFK files? Because he was told that he shouldn't release them, that he said some of the people were still alive, which doesn't totally make sense, because that was 1963.
So most likely, most of those people would be dead of old age. Yeah. But what does it mean, though, when someone says that? That means that someone from the government could be implicated in the murder of the former president. So if that's true, then would it be that the JFK would be that they're worried that it would erode all confidence in the intelligence agencies, or are they worried that deeper investigations would take place?
And then people start saying, well, what happened with Martin Luther King? Because that was one that Mike Baker, who's a former CIA guy, was saying that one, like, he investigated for a show, he goes, that one doesn't make any sense. That guy just started getting money. He was a loser's whole life. All of a sudden he had money. And nowhere. No, though the guy killed them. Oh, um, who was it? James Earl Reeves. James Earl Ray, maybe. James Earl Ray. James Earl Ray.
So that guy, um, Mike Baker broke it down for us. I don't remember exactly, but essentially what he's saying is that that guy was a drifter, who was a loser, you know, in and out of jail, that kind of guy. And then all of a sudden he has access to money. He's standing in a nice place, and he has a gun. Like what's going on? Like he thinks that they set him up to kill Martin Luther King, and that someone financed that, which is most likely that makes sense.
Well, back then you could kind of kill somebody, and it was, um, easier, you know. Think about like the Wild West, right? Like they, if you killed somebody, they drew a picture of you. Right. Wanted. I have to shave your mustache. Yeah. I'll ask you to hand. Fucking, I'm looking for a guy with a mustache. You could book carnage. Carnage. You could book, I can't put on glasses. Where do you go? He killed my whole family. Where the fuck has got glasses? I can't be him.
But you could literally go across the fucking behind a boulder. Yeah. Shave, come back to the town, get a job as a sheriff, and look for yourself for 20 years. It's crazy. Well, imagine how gross it must have been to come to some like fucking weird. A battle back then. Weird brothel town. A little saloon. And you just smell like shit. You've been riding on the back of a horse for three days, and you just wander into this weird fire lit community.
Did you know James Earl Ray escaped prison before he supposedly killed or not got on the hall of worked out, but. Oh, really? Yeah. You were saying, uh, get out of this guy's. He's chained. He got like a nose job. Oh, boy. But he also got a driver's license made it to Mexico. Oh, he's in prison. He's working at the Kroger's. Wow. He attempted to establish himself as a pornographic film director. Yeah. He's in mail order equipment who has him.
Oh, my God. After a quarter of an eight ball who hasn't. Oh, he's something like a fucking psychopath. He's guilty. Yeah, he's considered emigrating to Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe, where predominantly white minority regime had unilaterally assumed independence from the United Kingdom in 1965. Wow. Yeah. And then nose job. Yeah. And then went to Atlanta and then very quickly. Started to sign up to, yeah, decided to do what he did. Yeah, it's tough, man.
The heat down there is just fucking ruins everybody. Those drive people nuts, especially we got that cat parasite. You know, then they're all moving around your head like, get them out of my brain. Have you seen that show from on Amazon Prime? I haven't. Pretty good. Yeah, you know what I'm watching though on Netflix. What is it? Three-body problem. I haven't seen that. I haven't seen it. I've been hearing people say it. It's really good. It's by the people who made Game of Thrones. Oh, really?
It's really good. I'm like totally unique. I gotta want to tell you much about it. You don't say anything. It's not a fiction, but it's totally unique. You watch it and you're gonna go, oh shit. The first thing is going on here. Yeah. But after a while, you're like, oh shit, I'm on episode four now. Fuck, dude. And there's not going to be a season two for like three years. Yeah, I tell you, they do some of this shit. Well, like, stranger things.
Those motherfuckers are making a movie every week, you know? Right. They're making a one hour movie every week, which is like so much better than a movie. You know, like Game of Thrones is better than any movie that's ever existed. 100%. It's so good. And it's just one episode leads into the next one. And to the next one is like, oh shit, I can't believe she did that. Oh, fuck, he's dead now. Oh shit. Oh, but his head. Fucking, they killed the king in the very first episode. Unreal.
And they handicap that kid out the gate, remember? That's right out the gate. Fuck. Usually it's second season before you get a handicap kid in front of him. That's what blew my mind. That dude was fucking his sister. And you didn't know anybody to know. That's crazy. But back then, there weren't any rules. Were there? I think you're never supposed to be fucking your sister. I think that's like back to caveman times. Right, I'm sure there's something in most people that feels like, hey.
That's not right. Let's shut it down. Let's go outside instead. Well, that's like people always thought about that with rural communities. You know? Well, people say this a lot. I mean, I'm from obviously Louisiana and people say, you know, they're always like, hey, you see it, you know? You ever fucked your sister? Yeah. Yeah. And the thing that happened was people didn't live close to each other. So if you're not going to travel, you're only going to travel so far to...
Are you advocating for fucking sisters? Fuck, no, I'm not. What are you saying? It seems like that's what you're doing. No, I'm saying this is what happened back then. People aren't going to get a train ticket to come. You know, people are only going to have sex with in a certain distance of their... Right. Good call. That's why it happened. Right. You know, it's like... There's no one there. Right. There's nobody there. So they had to fuck their sister.
They didn't have to, but at a certain point they got lost and ended up back at right by the house. You know, I feel like something's got to happen here. I'm not saying it's cool. I'm just trying to tell you how it works out. Like, you know, physically works out in the mammal kingdom. Yeah. I'll give you a puppies. The boy puppy will fuck his sister. Yeah. 100%. He doesn't even think twice. He'll try to fuck you. They'll try to fuck your leg. They don't even know what they're doing.
Oh yeah, dude. I'll say to my buddy Brad's house one night, right? We're dead asleep, right? And they let a bunch of puppies lose, dude. Those things are fucking gang banging you. I don't know what you're saying, dude. I don't know if I'm fucking out some milk on me. Those things are fucking sucking me off, bro. I'm funny. Like, we don't think that about people. Right. The second, it's crazy how it goes from animals to people, man. Yeah, we're animals. We're animals.
Do you think there's a certain purpose for us? Like, there's a magical purpose for us? Or do you think we are just an anomaly? Well, I think even if there's not, this is a magical time. It's an interesting time. And especially for people like us, they get to talk to so many fascinating people. I mean, we have a really cool job. Not just as comics, but also as doing podcasts. And you've, I think you've got a great education doing that. You see more introspective.
You're more curious about things than, you know, I remember before. You're like, I think it did the same thing to me. Really? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I almost feel like I know why. I wish I didn't know more stuff. Sometimes I miss knowing nothing. Right. Yeah. Does it make any sense to you? For sure. I know I have my brain is filled with shit that I don't need. Oh, yeah, you're a library, dude. You know, the thing like a red box, we were in that one movie. We haven't been doing it as long.
I've been doing it a lot longer. That's all it is. No. It's the amount I do, too. It's numbers. But you're a, you have a, you are, you are a library. You know, there's certain types of people that can make it through certain things. And you wouldn't want to educate a child on this library. There's not a library you'd love everybody to have access to. No, it's 16 and older, I think. There's a lot of stuff in my head. I was like, God, I wish I didn't know that about people. You know.
Oh, that's interesting. You don't think about the side effects of somebody being able to have like a memory that records so much. Well, it's just you always concentrate on the worst possible aspects of people. And so if you know so many acts and things that people have done that have been horrific, you're always like the back your head always has, but maybe that could happen. You know, like so it always sits there. It always sits there.
If you're a completely, you grow up on my shirt or some shit. You like completely removed from society. You never see any violence. You never see anything. And then also you have to go to a bar, like downtown Detroit on a Saturday night. You see fist fights and people throwing glasses at each other. Like, maybe like what the fuck is this? I'm not ready for this. I'm not prepared for this. You know. Right, but if you, but if you, but if you know that exists and it's always a possibility.
So if you see it too much, even if you don't see it in real life, the worst thing is seeing it in real life. That's what we were talking earlier about cops. Yeah. If cops are seeing it every day in real life. So you just get like super accustomed to seeing people dead. Super accustomed to seeing people get injured. Yeah, it's crazy how therapists make like 150 bucks and it's crazy how therapists make like 150 dollars an hour, right? Right.
But cops who are basically therapists that also have to shoot at people. Right. Make 40 bucks an hour. I know. Like, that's crazy. Do you think about that? Crazy. And nobody wants that job. It is crazy. But if you paid them like heroes, I feel like that they were more fucking gladiers would show up and do it. Yeah. And they would have a real force out there, you know. And you would fall asleep at night knowing that severe warriors were taking care of your fucking community.
Yeah. So do you think that's possible or not? So people don't want to know that we need that. They don't want to kind of believe that you need like masculine dangerous men to protect you. But that's always been the case. And if you're just looking realistically about violence and crime in the world, it exists. There's no utopian spot. So violence and crime exists. There's only one way you can shield the nonviolent people who aren't committing crimes from the criminals. And that's dangerous men.
You need dangerous armed men who are trained and are capable. That's what you need. It doesn't mean they should be running everything. It means you need 100% protection from dangerous people. Then here's the number one thing that nobody addresses. You have to figure out why are so many people coming out of these same communities year after year after year after year, being dangerous, where no one's doing shit about it. No one's trying to fix it. No one's trying to enhance it.
No one's trying to like recognize like do you know much income we're losing? Because these people don't grow up to become productive members of society. You know much damage. It's causing if they go on to commit violent crimes and if whatever drug dealing, anything that can come out of that. And do you know how much of a burden it is on the taxpayer to sort of put them through the criminal system?
And how much of that could be completely removed if that person grows up and becomes a productive member of society? And instead starts contributing to society. And it's a success story. That's not impossible to do, but there's been no effort, no like engineering large scale national effort to completely eliminate these horrible spots in this country. And not like make everything the same and perfect, that's not possible.
But there's a level of poverty that exists in this country that's unmanageable. You should never be that poor if you're a part of a community. If you're a part of a community that takes care of everybody. There's no reason why you have 175 billion dollars to ship to Ukraine. But you don't have any money to make sure that no one exists below a certain level of poverty. Yeah, it's fucked when that kind of shit happens. They shouldn't be helping these other countries.
I don't know why we send money to Israel, Ukraine. I just don't understand why we say there's just people suffering here. There's people that have been taking advantage of in our own country. And it's like you don't want to be selfish. But if you don't take care, if you don't know your inventory, then your business is going to fail. That's a law. If you don't take stock of your own inventory, your business will fail. And we don't have stock of our own inventory.
And we don't have a healthy inventory. It's just like, I don't understand how it's so cr... The weird thing is, I start thinking, is that a radical idea? It didn't used to be a radical idea. But it became a radical idea when people started floating about the idea that capitalism is evil. All capitalism is bad. There's all these people that have these utopian notions of how we should run our society. Well, maybe it could be true at a certain point.
I think it's going to probably have to be true at a certain point because of AI. I think we're going to get to some weird point where money seems like it's just ones and zeros. It's just numbers. And it's a bottleneck. The bottleneck of information, right? Because you can't have access to all the information if you have access to all the money. Then where's the money got? That's crazy.
But if we get to this point where we evolved past the state we're at now, where you can't trust people to not steal your money, where you can't trust people to not lie, where you can't trust people to not manipulate things and try for their own benefit. If human beings can eventually get to a place like that, then I could see a time in our evolved future where we don't need money.
Or when everybody has the same amount, where instead of having this desire to constantly acquire goods and constantly acquire status and prestige in the community, have the bigger house, the bigger house. If that completely goes away and human beings really are one hive mind, I could see where we could equally share resources. But that's either a cyborg or a million years in the future.
I'm talking about where we get past all of our primitive cave people instincts and DNA that I think fucks with everything. It is the cause of almost all of our problems. It's who we are innately. It's just our programming. It's fucked. Yeah. Because our programming is the same. Well, you know, there's some variations that have cured over time. But reasonably similar, I should say, to people that lived 10,000 years ago.
So if you took a person from 10,000 years ago and you put him in a t-shirt like this and sat him in the movie theater, you wouldn't be able to tell. It would just like us. No, yeah. So really you think? 100%. Yeah. I mean, they might have been smaller because they didn't give as much food. But it would look like a small person. Yeah. We wouldn't know. You wouldn't know. They would look just like us. So if you just put him in a suit and tie and sat him down, that guy would be like, what the fuck?
Yeah. And that's basically us. So that person, if you get a person who lives 10,000 years ago, the amount of barbaric incidents, that guy is probably seen by the time it becomes an adult. The amount of people he's probably seen slaughtered with swords and spears and seen people lit on fire. That's all inside of us, though. Right. All that programming of like everybody's the enemy. And you got to protect the fields and protect the... That is all a part of our programming.
And as technology increases and as we become more interconnected, that's going to be one of the biggest problems that we face. It's abandoning these bizarre, primate characteristics that we still hold on to. Because they're in our DNA. And they're not managed well. Like people need to manage them to suppress them. And some people... Yeah, we try to prenatal and exist. Yeah. We try to prenatal and exist. Sorry, I'll step on you. No, no, no, no, no.
I'm interrupting you a lot, man. I'm sorry, dude. Oh, you're awesome, man. What are you doing? Stop doing that. I'm just... It's a piece of my kid's... Well, let's wrap it up. We've been doing this for three hours. Have we really? At least. Yeah, it's almost five. Oh, man. I love you. And now I'm always trying to get you to move here, but it's because I think you'd be happier here and selfishly at one time. No. Oh, thank you, dude. I appreciate it. No, I want to be around.
I'm just... It's been like... Every time I'm not doing a podcast, I have to like... I'm traveling for work, or it's like... It's been a busy time, you know? Hey, if we opened up another mothership, do you think Nashville would be a good spot? Yeah. Is there enough... Or would it be fucking with Zaini's, or do you think we would help it? No, I think it would be good, because I think there's enough people there where you could do it. Do you have enough comics in Nashville?
How many comics are in Nashville? Wow. There's some... You gotta have a base, you know? Like that one to perform all the time. Right. I'll do some recon for you. We're thinking. We're thinking to go into the spots. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that would be cool, man, because at least I know the area. I could... You know... What's out about going to the most woke place in Brooklyn, setting up shop? The mother... If you get... I bet it would thrive, though. Well, we could find out.
There's only one way to do it, dude. Wow, man. I can't believe it's so crazy that I was there to watch the... Just like what a night and was like... It was really fun time to watch the election at the club in the green room. We're all hopping back and forth offstage. Like, who's winning? I know. It was fun, man. It was so crazy, dude. Drink a diet coke, and it was fucking having a good time. Dio Vaughn, I love you to death. You're one of my favorite people. I appreciate you very much.
I love you too, man. Thanks for being inspiring, and thanks for... Yeah, sometimes you would like... I would do a podcast episode, and you would just say... You would reach out and say, hey, man, I like that episode. And it just meant a lot. It's gonna let you know that. Well, it does. You do a great job, man. I really love your show. I think you got some great interviews, and you got a great... You got a nice way of being yourself, you know, when you're talking to anybody.
And that's how I think people really like. They like to see conversations with people or just being themselves. And the fact that you can do that with Trump, that's fun. It's inspiring. So it's nice to see, man. I really, really love it. Well, thanks. Thanks, man. And yeah, I think it means a lot to people when somebody they admire, like... Says something nice to them, you know, just nature, you know? Yeah, we like it. I appreciate it, man. Thanks for having me, dude. My budget.
That would beÉif you are really peaceful.