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They actually listed me with my actual name in the list. Oh, did they really? Oh, interesting. But there's only two Americans in the top 20. Almost everyone is a Primaezure otherwise. I'm just talking about something that I think is a really good... because people always think that video games are frivolous. But what you were saying, I think that it's really important, is it's so difficult that it requires you to only think about that and it can relieve stress.

It can take out the rest of the world because it's so hard. You can only think about that. Yeah. I mean, if I play video game on extreme difficulty, then I have to concentrate fully on the game. And it has a calming effect. Yeah. It sort of chills down. And I mean, you mentioned I think many people would like if you play martial arts or you play pool. Yeah. Something that forces you... I think anything that forces you to concentrate fully actually has a calming effect.

I've had it just sort of like a restoring effect. Yeah. It's good. It's just like that. Archery's like that as well. Like when you're shooting a bow, there's so many moving things and you have to think only of it and it cleans the mind. It cleans my idea exactly. I was reading this study about surgeons where they found that surgeons who regularly play video games make less errors.

I mean, video games require manual dexterity. Yeah. It makes sense. Completely makes sense. Actually, if somebody was like, ever good video games, I'd say like the surgical skills can be very good because in order to be good at video games, any kind of fast reaction video games. Look at this. 32% fewer errors. 24% faster and scored 26% better overall than their non-player colleagues. I believe that's true. That's incredible.

You should be required in medical school to play video games. If somebody is like top-ranked video game player and they say they're a surgeon, I'd be like plus one plus two type of thing. Top rank for sure. But this isn't even top rank. This is just people play. Well, your manual dexterity has to be extremely high. So you're looking at things on the screen. You're reacting and you have some of you got like 10 milliseconds to react.

And so somebody's got incredible reaction times and manual dexterity. They're obviously going to be a good surgeon. Imagine if there was a course that you could take that course would promote you would be 26% better. Yeah. Everyone would have to take that course. Sure. Why would you want to surgeon this less prepared? You would say, hey, Bob, did you take this course? You didn't take this course. Don't you understand this course makes you 26% better? Sure.

You would have to take it. Everyone should have to play video games. If you want to be a surgeon. Well, I think it would be certainly would be a very good test to see if somebody can't play video games well. That means because you got to move both hands simultaneously. Right. You better react to something very fast. Then on the screen. So and if you're keystrokes or you're mass clicks or whatever are wrong, then you lose the game. Right.

So if somebody's like has a good rank in video games, I would say that they're mental to necessarily the manual dexterity must be extremely good. Well, it's so hard to find motor skills. Have to be excellent. If you think about like Starcraft or any game like Quake, any game where a lot of people are playing to rise the top, you have to be exceptional. Period as a human being.

There's to be something exceptional about you. Yeah. Actually, I'm sure Quake way back in the day. I was one of the world's best Quake players. I know we talked about this. Yeah. I loved Quake. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, my final semester in college, I probably put more time to Quake than all my college classes.

When I was on news radio, all of the writers were super nerds. They were very, very fun guys. And they had a land set up at the studio where they all played Quake. I had never played video games. And I would go in with the writers and just kind of hang out with them. We get silly. And then we would all start playing video games and playing Quake against each other.

And I got addicted like hardcore. I got a T1 line installed in my house. I went hardcore. Yeah, exactly checking how many milliseconds of latency. Oh, yeah. I was fully addicted. I was making my own computers, going to fries, hardware, and buying motherboards and putting everything together. And you know, it was too much of a time suck though. I'm an obsessive person. I can't get involved. Like I can't go golf.

No, it's too golf is too slow for me. I mean, a lot of people find golf good. And I mean, I guess if you think about it, I guess if you're saying you're going to walk outdoors with friends, and occasionally hit a ball, then and you're just an outdoor walk, then that's cool. And there's required concentration. We're hitting the ball. But it's it's it's it's it's this too slow for me. Nothing compares to video games in terms of like the amount of feedback you get.

Like the the the sensory overload you get when you're looking at a large high resolution screen, you have a fast computer. Headphones on. You're hearing sounds from here and sounds behind you and rockets are flying by you. And it's there's nothing like that. Yeah. But I think golf still is like Jamie will tell you Jamie's an addict. He's a golf nut. It's super addictive. And it takes like eight hours a day.

It's yes. Once you get into golf, I think I guess any sport is it gets super addictive. So but for me, the the intent the intensity of video games is hard to beat. Yes, it's and the people dismiss it because they think it's just a waste of time. But we're showing like real world benefits. So people playing video games. Yeah, if you want to be a drone operator, it's the only game in town. Yeah, absolutely. Really good at video games. Yeah, for sure.

So in fact, I can actually tell like what my mental acuity is. If I just play if I play a very hard video game. So if I'm trying to sort of get like an extremely good clear time and Diablo or something like that. Or or any you know, I suppose you should whatever case may be like if I can tell that I'm tired or my brain's not working as well as it should. It's like a it's like a mental calibration. Tell immediately. Like what is what what how good is your mental state? Right. Right.

And you know, so it's like I don't know if you're trying to play really well. Like I just if you play late at night and you're tired, you just play badly. Right. And you can say, okay, you may think that your brain is working well, but it isn't. Yeah. You play the video game and you're like, you suck. So okay. Yeah, you're putting it under stress. Yeah, you're really stress testing it. You stress tested and because like sometimes I think I think I'm fine.

But then play a game like, okay, I'm not I'm like 10% below what I should be. That's how I feel about workouts for sure. Like that's how I knew I had COVID or a new everyone I have my family had COVID. And I was trying to not get COVID. And so I was working out. I was like, something's up. I felt fine normally. But then during exercises, I was like, okay, I can tell there's something wrong here.

So let's look back off relax. Yeah. Yeah. It's like people who don't stress test their mind. They think they're operating on the same level all the time. Like sometimes I come in here and I can't form a fucking sense. And I don't know what it is. It's like what is going on. Yeah. So it's just like, like what sleep wasn't that good or something like that. Or I'm too busy. And it's just it's not the words aren't coming out. Like I know how to talk. I talk professionally. And I can't talk.

It's like I mean, so sleep is massive. I mean, huge. Yeah. So I can tell me, I did I get a good night sleep or not. If I just play like this episode of the Joe Rogan experience is brought to you by Call of Duty. You know, when a new Call of Duty drops, everyone's trying to find a way to squeeze in those extra hours of gameplay. I get it. Life is busy. But sometimes you just.

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Okay, and there's but there's a lot of like cognitive benefits and one of the big ones that they found recently is performance when sleep deprived mental performance when sleep deprived increases pretty measurably when you supplement with creatine. Is it is creating naturally occurring in like steak or yeah, it's like naturally occurring in meat. I think I think that's where it's coming from. I think it's a primarily an animal based thing.

Yeah, but like I did switch to like steak and eggs for breakfast and I found that's like a power up. Oh, yeah, yeah, well we're all overrun with carbohydrates. Yeah, totally. And you did like carbohydrates make this big crash the rise and crash rise and the crash. You stay flat if you eat like a primarily high protein high fat diet. Yeah, your body runs off ketosis.

Yeah, I mean, I so I just have like steak and eggs no no bread or yeah, and it's great. It's great. Actually, it's a power up. I'd say people dismiss this whole carnivore diet thing because in our heads, there's a lot of propaganda. I've put this thing out there that animal agriculture is the number one contributor to global war. Yeah, that's rubbish. It's not true. It's hot. It's a matter not always a hot bullshit.

But the real problem is factory farming. Regenerative farming is carbon neutral. If doesn't sequester carbon. The animals are not going to make any difference. Global warming. Like I'm not. No, it's not. Suppose you're or is that nothing. Do you think that that's just propaganda because of people that have invested interest in like plant-based meat products and things along those lines green energy.

I think it's part of it. You know that you're generally going to get people pushing to avoid meat like it so we will just, you know, maybe they've got a financial interest. Maybe they're just like vegetarians or vegans or whatever ideological reasons. But it's not going to make any difference to global warming or you know the CO2 concentration atmosphere really if people eat fewer steaks, it doesn't matter. It's irrelevant.

I want to be super clear about that. Yeah, no matter you will not even be able to measure it. Okay, that's how irrelevant it is. Isn't it funny that that's a measurable. That's a heretic speaking. That's crazy talk now. Nowadays it's like you have to say that we have to eat less meat. No, it's totally as much for easy ones. It's not going to make a difference.

Sing it. Sing it. Tell the world. Yeah, absolutely. If somebody says it does make a difference, I'm like, how will you measure it? And if you can't even measure it, then it's bullshit. Yeah, literally I want to be able to measure it. Well, there's so much bullshit out there. First of all, thank you so much for buying Twitter. Thank you so much. I'm not exaggerating when I think you changed the course of history. I really do. I really think you made a fork in the road.

We were headed down a path of censorship and of control of narratives that is unprecedented. Forget about what they were able to do back when they had newspapers and the media under control. What they were doing with social media by suppressing information and when you had a combined government effort, what they were doing with the laptop story, we have 51 former intelligence agents saying that this is Russian disinformation, take it offline and Twitter complied.

If you didn't buy that, we wouldn't have known that. We had no idea. The reason I bought it was because I'm pretty attuned since I was the most interacted with a user on Twitter before the acquisition. Before the acquisition, I had more interactions that then. There are some accounts like Obama and whatever had to hire follow accounts. But I had the most number of interactions of any account in the system.

I was very attuned to if they changed the system, I can tell immediately. I'm like, something weird is going on here. I just got increasingly uneasy. When they de-platformed a sitting president, that was just insane. The things he was posting, he was posting good things. He was saying, hey, do not do any destruction of property. Please stay calm. That's the kind of stuff he was posting. What's wrong with that? Then some people said, that's some sort of dog whistle. He means the opposite.

I'm like, okay, so we'll give you Trump's account. You post what you think you should post. You can post nothing. You can ask people to calm down. It was insane. It didn't make any sense. It's completely illogical when you say it's dog whistling to tell his followers to not be violent. That's crazy. That's crazy. Don't you think they will listen to him? Isn't that the whole point they listened to him and created violence in the first place? That's what you think.

You're accusing him of. Then there's the fact that we know that there was agents in the crowd that were agent provocateurs that were encouraging people to do illegal shit. We know that for a fact. This is not... That was always the big Alex Jones type tinfoil hat conspiracy theory. Alex proposed that back at the World Trade Organization protests, I believe we're in Seattle in the 90s, and they sent in agent provocateurs, started smashing things, lighting things on fire.

Now also in a peaceful protest is no longer peaceful. They move in the cops, they shut everything down. They had it set up where it was a no protest zone, where you couldn't even have a pin that had the WTO with a red line through it. You couldn't let you go in through to go to work. You couldn't exercise your First Amendment rights. You couldn't even have a peaceful protest. A fucking sticker on your car. You couldn't have that. It's crazy.

It's crazy. We're very much in a folk in the road in Destiny. The reason I did the Twitter acquisition was like, if I don't do this, I think we're screwed as the issue. You didn't do it. No one else was going to do it. It wasn't a financial winner. It was kind of a crazy move. It's a crazy move. The thing was way overpriced. I think we can ultimately make it a win for investors, but this is a hard way to make a living. Well, there's also a concerted effort to suppress it.

There's a concerted effort to advertise. We still have a massive advertiser boycott that was organized by a bunch of left-wing NGOs. I should have brought my... I have a hat. Make-o-well-fiction again. I've seen that hat. I should have brought my make-o-well-fiction. It's just totally, totally nuts. If you didn't do it, no one would have. Here's the hilarious narrative that I keep hearing from idiots.

Elon's a bad businessman. Twitter is worth 400% less than when he bought it. No, it wasn't worth that in the first place. It wasn't worth that in the first place. It wasn't worth $44 billion. You fucking morons. Wrong. Also, you're not taking into account the advertiser boycott. That's total bullshit. Exactly. You can tell they're like when they have an o'wellian name. The Center for Countering Digital Hate is a total scam organization.

They're the Ministry of Truth in oil. They're a censorship organization. They pushed the advertisers to boycott. We still have... Some of the boycott is starting to lift. If Trump wins, we'll see probably most of the boycott lift. But if Kamala wins, we'll see that boycott gets stronger. And they'll friggin' shut down. There's no way that Kamala Public Regime would allow X to exist. You really think they'll be able to shut it down though? Is there a pathway to that? Yes. What would they do?

Well, they can just... They can sick the DOJ on... They have helped this whole thing about hate speech, misinformation, whatever. The other one is pushing them as information. That doesn't stop them from filing massive lawsuits and using the DOJ. The DOJ has been attacking SpaceX, for example, for not hiring asylum seekers. Even though it is legal for SpaceX to hire anyone who is not a permanent resident of the U.S. So we're downed if we're doing downed if we don't.

There's an example of what DOJ can do. So it's illegal to hire someone who's not an American citizen? SpaceX is considered an advanced weapons technology. So it's covered by international traffic and arms regulations because we make rocket technology that can be used against the United States. It's like if North Korea or Iran got SpaceX rocket technology, they could use that to launch New York City of America. Right. It would be bad. That would be really bad.

Since we are in the most extreme category of weapons technology at SpaceX, under U.S. Itarlo, it is illegal for us to hire anyone who is not a permanent resident. Because the presumption is that if they're not a permanent resident, they're going to return to their home country and take the rocket technology with them. So it's illegal for us to hire anyone who's not a permanent resident of the U.S.

Then there's another law that says if you discriminate against asylum seekers, that's also breaking the law. So the DOJ can only do a small number of big lawsuits every year. The launch of a giant lawsuit against SpaceX saying that SpaceX discriminated against asylum seekers. And we're like, but it's illegal for us to hire anyone who's not a permanent resident. So this is what I mean. It's like, oh well, the situation is getting insane.

Like you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. So you damned. Can you imagine history looking back at when you watch the robot arms catch the rocket and you realize like this is like one of the greatest accomplishments in this history of aerospace. Like it is one of the most wildest accomplishments. When you watch that thing come and you see all these people cheering and it catches it perfectly, like holy shit.

Imagine how history is going to look back at the DOJ going after that company. How insane it is. Big lawsuit with an army of lawyers. Like this was not like some minor thing. But it doesn't even make any sense. How can it even get brought to court if it's illegal? That's exactly. So that's what I mean. Like basically if the government wants to go after you, they'll just find a reason. It's like that famous quote from Barrier. Like so Stalin's chief torturer.

The head of Stalin's secret police and he's like, he's a true evil human being like this guy Barrier. His one of his famous quotes was, show me the man and I'll show you the crime. Right. They just, they just, they like, they decide that you're the target and then they figure out the crime afterwards. That's the issue. They decided SpaceX was the target. They just figured out the crime afterwards.

It's so crazy because that's exactly what they're saying. Trump is going to do if he gets into office. They're doing all the things that they accused Trump of doing. Yeah. Openly. Yeah. I mean, the, the sheer number of hoaxes that the Democratic Party is pushing over and over again. They, and it's like, look, I just not like politicians are going to, you know, exaggerate. They're going to misspeak and they'll tell occasional, you know, untrue, whatever. That's that's how it is in politics.

But when you have deliberate, concerted, repeated pushing of hoaxes, you're like, wait a second. Like, come on, man, this is too, this is too far. And you're supposed to be the good guys. You're supposed to, and you claim to be the good guys. I'm like, exactly. You're supposed to be the progressives. Yes. The dams are like, oh, we're the good guys. We're the honest people. No, no, hang on.

You can't claim to be the good guys. You can't claim to be honest people. If you're deliberately post pushing hoaxes that have been debunked thoroughly. Yeah. Well, not just like even snopes, which is a liberal thing says as bogus. Yeah. Like the fine people hoax. Obama just said that on stage. It would just sit there. I was like, what the flying fuck? He doesn't give a fuck. He doesn't give a fuck. They're just, they're just going for.

That's a flat out. I'm fucking lying. Flat out. Flat out. Fuck your life. The other one where Kamala's campaign used what Trump was saying about protecting women and from illegal immigrants. Thank you. You remember that? Yeah. What he was saying is that if the women like it or not, I'm going to do it. Yeah. When he was saying that, they were trying to say that he was taking away women's right to choose. Yeah. Whether women like it or not. Like that's not what he was saying. Absolutely.

He was literally talking about protecting them from dangerous people that are sneaking in through the border. Yeah. Exactly. They'll take like not even a full sense, like a half a sentence from Trump. And then they'll push it on every ad, every, every speaking event. And it gets repeated on the news. This is what's crazy. They'll talk about it on these news shows. It's a quote.

News shows. Yeah. Exactly. I mean, I'm in a recent one that came up, which had a lot of people, because a lot of people reached out to me. Like, they're like, Oh, Trump says he wants to execute Liz Cheney. I'm like, that is utter bullshit. Somebody said it all. It's not what he said at all. He only said was like, what is saying is that, look, if Liz Chene actually had to fight at the front lines, should think twice about going to war. Exactly.

It's easy to go to war. It's easy to be a war mogul if you don't have to risk dying at the front lines. Like, if other, like, basically it's fucked up if people are having like fancy dinners in Washington, DC, while people are being slaughtered in trenches, you know, it's like, you're not feeling the pain. Exactly. You're not taking the risk. It's someone else dying. That's like, that's, that's, that's cruel and lacking an empathy.

And, and all Trump was saying was that it's like, Liz Cheney would be much, Liz Cheney would be much less of a war mogul, because she's a huge war mogul. It's like her dad. If she actually had had to go to the front lines and fight herself. And meanwhile, they're saying that he should, he's saying she should be shot. Yes, which is a total lie. And, but I had like tons of people calling me this weekend saying, oh, Trump says he's going to put Liz Cheney in a firing squad.

Like, that is an outrageous lie. And legacy media ran with that lie big time. Yeah, it's crazy. It's, it's just wild to see. And if it wasn't for Twitter or X now, I don't think we would know about all this stuff. I think it would be very difficult for you. I think YouTube throttle. They did something weird. They won't say what they did. But they did something weird with the Trump interview that I did. Yeah. Where you couldn't find it.

It doesn't make sense. Like, like, like, made no sense. I mean, it's like the, it was like the biggest interview on Earth. Yeah. And you can't find it. Yeah. Not only that, it wasn't trending bull shit. It wasn't trending. It wasn't trending. Like, it's just no excuse for that. No excuse. It was getting a million views. One point. What was it? One point four an hour at one point time?

One point five, one point five an hour. Yeah. And it wasn't trending. Yeah. And it's like, it's like your channel is a known channel. It's not, it's not like it was started yesterday. It's like, yeah. It's like, this is a high trust yours is a high trust channel. It's like, you're not trying to sell scam crypto coins. So, well, thank God we put it on X as well. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I think just with your account of my account alone, it's like 70 million views. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, it's like, you can't hide things anymore because of you. And if it wasn't for you, I think they would have had total control of social media by now. Yeah. They're through. They've, they've banned so many accounts during the pandemic. So many dissenting scientists and doctors and physicians. They've banned so many conspiracy theorists. So many people that colored outside the lines. They would have done that everywhere.

And it probably would have I think even at what's going on at Facebook, they're, they're being more lenient, you know, here. Zuckerberg talking about taking a more libertarian stance. That's entirely reaction to the way Twitter has kind of moved the watermark. Exactly. So, as soon as, as there's any company steps out of line and is going to actually have the truth of the debate.

On their platform, it forces the other platforms to allow things to be more truthful to not censor because their censorship becomes exglairingly obvious. Yes. Yes. And you know, the best thing I found for as a rebuttal, like if somebody, if there's a hoax, is just go to the source material. You know, if you think if somebody thinks, thanks, you know, is Trump said that we should put those chain in a firing squad.

I'm like, let me send you a link to X so you can watch his video. That's the best way. Yes. Don't take my opinion for it. Don't take anyone's opinion for it. Go to the source material and community notes. Yes. And community notes. Community notes is the best. It's awesome. It's incredible because everybody gets checked. Yes. Including me. Yeah. And community notes. All the software is open source and all the data is open source.

So you can recreate any given note independently. That's amazing. Yeah. That's how it should be. That's how it should be. Total absolute transparency in every way. You know, sometimes I get asked, like, oh, you only can you remove a note, you know, mostly by the left, but sometimes by the right. I'm like, I'm like, I don't even remove, remove notes on my own count. Nothing. And by the way, everything is totally open. So if I did that, it would stick out like a sore thumb.

Yeah. Immediately. Like it's not going to be subtle. That is the best counter to misinformation. Yes. Absolutely. Like let everybody look at it and say, okay, here's what the actual fact says. Yes. Exactly. The counter to misinformation is better information. Not just that, but having it checked in real time by the community. So you have millions of people that can go over and debate whether or not this is true or that's true.

Yes. And just like I said, like the best way to understand the truth things is don't take anyone's opinion for it. Look at the source material. You know, say it's like, look at what someone actually said. Look at what someone actually did. Look at the real videos of the situation. And then you can actually you'll know what's real. So as of today, when you were a little on your way here, you sent me this text saying that they're trying to lock you up in jail.

Yeah. That's a thing. Tell me what the fuck is happening. Well, you know, there's the classic sort of Soros DA situation. So we're making a lot of progress in Pennsylvania. So, you know, I've been given a whole bunch of talks throughout the state because Pennsylvania is the linchpin in this election. You know, whoever wins Pennsylvania wins the election. So I've been giving, I spent three years in Pennsylvania. I went to college in Philadelphia.

So it's not like I'm not like I'm not like total stranger to the state. You know, I spent three years there. And we, you know, we, we, we, we organized this petition in support of the Constitution, which I think is a good thing. And specifically asking people to, and we wanted this to be like, registered voters in swing states.

Like, basically, we want to send a message to the politicians to say that the people care about the Constitution because there've been all these attacks on the Constitution. They've been, especially on the Democrat side, they've been repeatedly saying that the, that the First Amendment is an obstacle. And they're claiming, oh, the First Amendment is, is enabling disinformation, misinformation.

And I'm like, yo, there's a reason for the First Amendment. Like, freedom of speech. The reason they, the founders of the country put, you know, the freedom of speech there is because they came from countries where if you spoke your mind, you would get shot or imprisoned. That's why the First Amendment exists. And the Second Amendment is there to stop the turn of government. The Second Amendment, the right to be our arms, is there to protect freedom of speech. You know,

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Can you can you make that guarantee? But like, well, nobody can make that guarantee. I'm like, then we need to keep our guns. Because that's the, that's what's going to stop it. That sounds crazy for people to hear because they think about gun violence and gun problems and gun this and gun that. But that's the reality of the world that we live in is that tyranny is possible and it exists other places and it's slowly existing.

It's slowly rearing its head in the UK. You're saying, I think the number of people that have been arrested for just social media posts is bananas in the thousands. Yes. Several thousand people have been given prison sentences sentences in the UK for social media posts that where there was no explicit link to actual violence. But they just said it encouraged violence. Like, well, did anyone actually do anything as a result of that media post will know.

But they're just and and then they have a prison overcrowding situation in the UK so that they're quite literally releasing convicted pedophiles and putting people in jail for Facebook posts. Doesn't actual thing happening in Britain? That is so wild. Like it's you're like, what the fuck? You know, it's going on. And what's insane to me is that make oil fiction again. Yeah. You know, but it's all being encouraged by the left.

Katanji Brown Jackson John Kerry. John Hillary. John Kerry was one of the people who said that he's on camera recent like a few weeks ago saying that the first moment is a prop is an obstacle to fighting misinformation. Yeah. That's crazy. That's such a crazy thing to say when you have a solution in community notes.

You have a solution in something that that could clear everything up any confusion within a day or two. And even without a community note, you can reply to a post with evidence that that shows that the post is wrong. You don't even need community notes. I mean, community is helpful because it sticks to the original note. Yes. But in the replies, you can say, here's why you're wrong. Here are the reasons and here's the evidence.

The argument is that people are too unsophisticated that they're not going to research these things. They're going to be a victim of misinformation. So they're going to read something. It's incorrect. They're going to run with it. People are going to die. People are going to we're going to ruin the world because people believed in misinformation. It's a stupid argument because it's an argument that they're too dumb to know what's right or wrong.

If you know, because you're saying it's misinformation, why do you think that you're smarter than everybody who reads that? Exactly. And obviously anyone on the X system knows that things are posted and then there are a plasmer, there are bottles and it's immediately corrected. But where are the corrections for the legacy media? Right. You know, when, when if, you know, some broadcast media pop, they said, say false things all the time, but it's a one way street. There's no rebuttal.

There's no counter. Right. Right. There's the who's apologized for being incorrect about what did Rachel Maddow ever apologize for telling everybody that if you get the COVID vaccine, you're never going to get COVID. It won't the virus stops with you. Never. Never.

It's just it was not true at the time. There was no evidence to support at the time. It's pure propaganda. And she said it, the Russia gate hoax, the three fucking years, they said that he was Putin's toy. Yes. And that Putin had him compromised the steel dossier. Steel dossier was completely fabricated by a lawyer, a cocaine, who was paid by the Clinton campaign. Literally crazy. And still people think the Russia hoax is real. And there's no repercussions. There's no one had apologized.

Healy couldn't never came out and apologized for that. And people still listen to her. The whole thing is crazy. And it's all coming from the left, which growing up as a person who is in the left my whole life, it doesn't make any fucking sense. Same. I mean, I even I, I was on the left until like three years ago. I mean, you know, it's not the left anymore. It's not the left anyway. It's just like I think we obviously want. I mean, I believe like we want freedom. Like we want.

We want to maximize post post molybady. I think we want we want to be kind to people. You know, we want to have empathy. And but it's very important to have personal freedom and a merit based society on the left is is wants to. Press your freedoms, especially freedom speech. And they want to.

They want to have a non merit based society, you know, with race based and sex based preferences. And it's like, well, wait a second. No, we just want people to succeed based on their skills and their hard work. And if they don't want people to express themselves about particular issues, then they're not doing the will of the people. And if they're trying to suppress people's ability to communicate, they're only doing that because they want to do things that people don't want them to do.

Yeah, and they want to silence opposition. That's all it is. And the fact that people can't see that and they want to call Trump a fascist. Well, the whole thing is just it's just looking glasses. I mean, it's like one hoax after another that they're portraying a Trump like they try to call the rally at Madison Square. It's like a Nazi rally. I'm like, yo, there was like literally an Israeli flag in the audience.

I think like a quarter of the speakers were Jewish. Like there was like there were people of every race color creed religion at that rally. Like tell me what about that is Nazi. And yet it was portrayed as a Nazi rally. Well, MSNBC. They literally showed video of the Nazi rally from 1930s and then compared it to the Trump rally. Now ignoring the fact that fucking Jimmy Carter spoke there. There have been dozens of local rallies at Madison Square Gardens dozens on the Democrat side.

Like people on X will like and here's exactly here's Jimmy Carter and here's not a vote clip. And here's wait a second. Actually, it looks like every presidential candidate has done a on the Democrat side has done a rally at Madison Square Gardens. All they not see to. But what they're doing is they're praying on low information voters who aren't engaged actively on social media who don't have the time to look through everything. And exactly. Yeah.

Like people living if people are just on looking at legacy mainstream media, then they have a totally different worldview than if they're on X and seeing the actual flow of argument and the actual evidence. Well, what was the pushback like what happened when you guys released the Twitter files because I think the Twitter files is probably one of the most important things in this age of information for understanding the influence that government has on social media and on discourse.

Because when when we found out that that was the case that the government was actually asking Twitter to remove posts that were factual. They did the same thing to Facebook. They had them throttle pieces of one of Tucker Carlson's show they suppress the views by 50% yeah.

A factual information. Yeah, no, there was there was massive government interference in Twitter, but like Twitter welcomed it. It doesn't want to. All Twitter welcomed it. I mean, Twitter. All Twitter was controlled by by fall left activists. Yeah. So. And and they welcomed the government. The government they're paid by the government for it. That's crazy. They got paid for their time. Correct. Yeah, they got billions of dollars for for suppressing information.

So it's like and a bunch of it was like that. I legal like the FBI had this like this this this sort of magic portal into the Twitter system. And and the but all of the communication in that sort of in this portal was auto deleted after two weeks, which breaks federal FOILOS.

So we didn't know what was said because it was all deleted after two weeks. That's insane. Yeah. That's so crazy. It's so crazy. People thought that was okay. It's not super not okay. No, it's super not okay. It's unconstitutional. And no one would want that. No one would want the government to have that kind of access. Exactly. And what was the blowback like when all that stuff got released?

Like you had to anticipate that there was going to be problems when you released that. Like what was what happened? Well, we got a lot of we didn't lose a lot of advertising dollars. And which is crazy because it's essentially like one of the most important forms of journalism is exposing government corruption.

Yes, I mean, this is the weird thing. It's like the left used to be big big on exposing government corruption. But now but once they control the government, they no longer want to expose the government corruption. Right. They want to pretend that the left wing government's incapable corruption because we're on the good side. I think it may be just like, you know, whoever's in power kind of doesn't want the, you know, the other side hurt.

Because as you pointed out, like the left historically, but until I don't know, maybe even 10 years ago or something like that, was the free speech party. And now it's the anti free speech party. And they just they use they use words like like, oh, we have to be against hate speech and misinformation disinformation.

But these are propaganda words, you know, it's like, well, who's defining hate speech? Who's defining this information? The government? Do you really trust the government to make that definition? The whole point of the of the first amendment is like, you do not trust the government. Well, especially when they're wrong. And there's no right.

Yeah, like what the whole lab leak theory, if you could you would get kicked off of YouTube. If you even presented this argument that, hey, maybe that Corona virus lab, whether doing work on the exact same virus that got released. Hey, maybe that's where it came from since that's where the virus started. What do you think guys? Yeah, you could kick you right off of YouTube.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's like, do you think maybe the it could have come from a place called the novel coronavirus research institute? Like the John Stewart bit that he did on co bear. That was amazing. What does it say on the door again? Can I see your business card?

And his thing co bear like resisting it with every fiber of his being. What's going to happen to us? He was totally cock blocking the bit to the point where John Stewart got off his chair and started walking around trying to take control. Yeah. And then the left try to cancel John Stewart. Of course. Yeah. Me, while he was right. He's right. And no apologies. No apologies. Yeah. And you know, the whole Fauci thing.

Yeah. Any criticism of Fauci. It's like anti-Science. If you read RFK's book. Yeah. If the real Anthony Fauci. If that's correct. If the facts are in there, that's true. It's all referenced. Yeah. You could find the sources. And on top of it, he's never been sued for that book, which doesn't make any sense. If he just made a bunch of lies up, he would get sued.

Yes. So the guy's a monster. I think so. Yeah. I think so too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think like just looking at the lies that he told the way he tried to find gain of function research to Rand Paul. But he. I think a lot of maybe a lot of people out there don't realize Fauci funded the bio weapons research that was going on in Wuhan. He bank shot it off. Like you can't send them on directly to China.

So you just bank shot it off. E.co health. Right. This is like fake non-profit in the US. And they sent it to Wuhan. And Obama put the skids on that. He stopped that in 2014. Yes. I mean, so you know, to give Obama a throw of Obama, give him some credit. He actually was like looking at this and say, hey, this is crazy. And we need and he. So he actually did stop the.

Like this. Like this. So called gain a function again, a proper gander word because what is the function they're talking about death? Right. Right. So if you actually use the right word, this is. Gain function is death maximization. Right. Then you're like, oh, oh, hey guys refund bio weapon research into death maximization.

Because that's what gain a function means. Yeah, it means the function making a disease so that people can get it. Give it to people. Yes. And by the way, what's that function again? Oh, the function is death. Oh, okay. So just go to death maximizing virus. If you do research on that. And the idea behind this research is so that we can cure these things. How come you don't have a fucking cure?

Yeah, so the cura cure for a disease second doesn't make any sense like you guys had no strategy for dealing with it if it got out. And so you have to like make up this. This new vaccine in like record time operation warp speed, released to the people with very little testing. Yeah, it was crazy. The whole thing's crazy. And everybody just went along with it.

And then you choose next level. Well, it's the psi op was fascinating to watch people step in line. One of the biggest apps of all time of all time of all time. And everybody got in line. And when you take it back to when pharmaceutical drug companies were able to advertise on media in the 1990s, that changed everything.

And so we have two countries in the whole world that allows this. And because of that, because we don't have socialized medicine, it's a complete profit scam. And they went hard claiming all sorts of things that were never researched. All sorts of things are not supported by data like the fact that it would stop transmission, the fact that it would stop infection, the fact that it was safe for pregnant women, the fact that it was safe for children. All of its bullshit.

And they pushed it on the whole world. And if you didn't say that at a cocktail party, you were a pariah. Yes. And you were an anti-vaccine. It was totally psycho. It was like being a Holocaust in our you get kicked out of polite society. Exactly. Fuck the bananas. And I should say like I'm actually generally pro vaccine overall. You know, I think we should look at these things.

But that, but I believe in the scientific method. So, so you never blanket except anything. You never blanket except that any, any given medication or any given treatment is 100% good. You should always be with some skepticism. Especially when you're getting the data from pharmaceutical drug companies that have like a long history of the brain, you've got a vested interest in the research. It's sort of like asking tobacco companies about, you know, we're like smoking. It's dangerous. Exactly.

Exactly. According to our scientists, everything's fine. You have a lighting court forever. The same thing they do with oxy-continue. They said that it wasn't addictive. Like they have a long history being full of shit if it makes them money. And that's what they do. Yes. They've literally lost multiple, but all lawsuits.

Massive. Massive. You have amazing scientists, right? You have these clinical researchers. These people have developed these incredible drugs. And they, this is their job. Their job is to figure out some new way to cure something. Yeah. Some new way to stop thing. And then you have the money people. Sure. And the problem is when you have this one thing that you would assume they're only doing it to help people.

And then they have this other faction that they're all just numbers people. And all they give a fuck about is maximizing profits. And making sure they literally have an obligation to their shareholders.

Yeah. They have to make the most amount of money possible. And so they just want to push it on everybody. Regardless, like the Viox scandal. There's internal emails showing they knew there was going to be cardiovascular events. People were going to get strokes. And they're like, I think we're still going to do well. And they did.

They made like $12 billion. They got fine seven and 50 to 60,000 people died. Holy shit. Yeah. One of them was a friend of mine got a stroke. And died. Yeah. No, he didn't die. He lived, but he was a really healthy guy. He was like the same actress. Yeah. It's knee problems. And he took Viox and all some of these slur in his words. And he couldn't concentrate. And people like, I think you're having a fucking stroke. And they took him to the hospital.

And then then you have this giant class action lawsuit. Then Viox gets pulled from the market and they get sued. And the whole thing's fucking crazy. But there's a long history of this. I think what is the number like one third of the drugs of the FDA approves gets pulled. It's fucking bananas. That's crazy. That's crazy. You're shitty at one third of the things that you say are okay. But you're trying to stop MDMA therapy for veterans. Yeah.

Yeah. They should live MDMA through, honestly. That I think they're actually help a lot of people. It would help a lot of people. There's a lot of different therapies, specifically psilocybin, eye baguette. The fact you have to go to Mexico to get eye baguette therapy for veterans. So many guys I've talked to have gone over there. And it's like completely given them a clean slate, refresh their mind and totally new perspective on life, alleviated depression, cured addictions, illegal, illegal.

Oxy cotton. Go get it. Yeah. And I know some people who like their life was ruined by oxy cotton. Oh, yeah. Because I mean, it really depends on somebody in individual biochemistry. Like to me, like opioids are not a dictionary to me. I've had them went about operations or something. And they barely affect my pain level. And they make me like itchy and uncomfortable.

They make me stupid. Exactly. But I'm like, so, so like, like I could never get addicted to alcohol or opioids. It's just impossible. Like because my biochemistry just does not have like, but I love tasty food. Feel like, you know, you know, if there's, I'm addicted to tasty food, sure. But like there's like, I like I have a whole wall of alcohol. It's there for decoration.

Yeah. I feel it's same way. I could easily quit alcohol. I mean, I'll go weeks without having a drink. It doesn't bother me at all. But I know some people they have one drink and they're off to the races. And that's the difference in the biochemical differences that we all have. Yeah. I mean, I think that's the case with a lot of addictions. I'm not addicted to gambling, but I get it. I see it. I've seen it in people. But I'm, I have this aversion to things that I know are going to ruin my life.

I see it. That's why I've never tried cocaine. I just saw too many people. They're, it looks too fun. I kind of want to get involved. Yeah. I mean, I think generally for any given drug legal or illegal, you could, the question is, can you complete the following sentence? Blank made me a better person. Like I've never heard anyone say meth made them a better person or cocaine made them a better person.

No, ever made a lot of soldiers better, I think. That's yeah. I mean, if you're doing it, if you're like, if you're soldiers need to march for three days. Yeah. It's really good. It's effective at that. You know, you know, people give like a france of hard time, but you know, capitulating in World War two. But you know what's, what's worse than Nazis? Nazis on meth.

They're not stopping normal. They're still coming. That book over there blitzed is all about the use of meth amphetamines and the different drugs that they gave their soldiers. The guys the front of the line that gave the most meth. Yes. Different dosages. Yeah. I mean, you just basically think you're unbunnerable on meth. And so it's one thing like so. So one thing we you know, have have like the Nazis come after you, but not these on meth. You like holy shit. Those workers are not stopping.

For three days not stopping. It's so crazy. Yeah. Yeah. That's not a statement. Meth made me a better person that you hear very often. I know who that fool. Now you hear a lot of like psilocybin advocates. You hear a lot of people to talk about psychedelics. Exactly. I've actually heard many people say that LSD or you know mushrooms or MDMA made them a better person. Yeah.

Many people. Yeah. So that's why I'm like, I think a rule for the FDA should be like, Hey, look, if you can complete the sentence legal or legal that blank made you a better person. Actually. Yeah. But then then you got a good drug. And if you if you can't, you got a bad drug. Also, if there's drugs that are available right now that can absolutely ruin people's lives.

This the rationalization for stopping other drugs that might ruin people's lives, but also can help a lot of people's lives. It doesn't make any sense. Right. You're basically the same thing as censorship. You're taking away people's ability to discern what's true and not true. Yeah. You're taking away people's ability to discern what's good for you and not good for you. And the way to find that out is to have as much information as possible.

So to do research and actually to have unbiased actual objective observers who are looking all the stuff that give you real data. And the opposite of that or the counter that is like, if you don't do that, you're empowering cartels. Yes. That's the whole reason why they have all that money. It's because it's illegal to sell these drugs in America. The demand is never going away.

So instead of like limiting the amount of drugs, now you've got toxic drugs because fentanyl and all this other shit is because they're not pure. So you're just killing people. You're not saving anybody by protecting them from themselves. But it's a tricky situation because what do you do? Like if you just like say, okay, now everyone can sell all these people that have been selling boner pills. Now you can sell meth. Like holy shit.

You get that you get the double combo. It's a vibrant and a myth. Right. Jesus Christ. Oh my God. Well, I mean, how many people already doing that right now with that? There's a lot of people out there that are essentially on meth. Yeah, especially people that abuse Adderall. Yeah. They're basically amphetamine. That all day long. Yeah. Adderall is low grade and footamene. Yeah. So the.

And I have actually seen people like become much worse people if they take too much Adderall like much worse. You know, it's like an anger amplifier. So there's. Now, now I'm not saying like Adderall is something like where there's there are pluses and minuses is not a clear cut issue. Right. It does help some people a great deal. And but in higher doses, man, that that stuff I've seen people turn into just raging monsters on on high doses of Adderall.

Just they're just angry like extremely angry all the time. Yeah. They're messed up. Yeah. That's what happens if you take meth. It's crazy. You turn it like meth turned into a friggin rage demon. And so many prescriptions. And I'm like, gee, we we googled it like one year there was like 39 million prescriptions for Adderall in this country. Oh, yeah. And like once in a while there's like an Adderall shortage and like there's like watch widespread panic, you know.

And then what do people do? And then it's the same thing is like when they tried to like limit the amount of oxycontin. Well, people go to street heroin. And if you're addicted to Adderall and your dealer, you guys tell you weed is like, Hey, man, I can get you like low grade meth like the stuff that Nazis took. Well, that I grade meth. Actually, that pharmaceutical grade was that epic. It was like made by like pharmaceutical grade meth is going to be.

Like this. I mean, excuse me, just look at the we're going online Wikipedia page, but there's like many different versions of math, like not all the same. And they have different effects. So but like pharmaceutical grade pure meth, you are going to be, oh my god, super productive. Super productive for a certain period of time. And you're not going to see for a while. And then you will have some agon management issues.

So like, like they actually the the Nazi they did actually roll back how much meth they were using because they had quite a few incidents of the of the soldiers killing their offices because they were on too much math. Jesus Christ. Yeah, they were. Yeah, they were. To me, um, officer got fragged by the by the, you know, they're platoon that was on too much math because that happened quite a few times.

Like you just went when someone's not a lot of math. They're they're they're they're they're very they can give very angry. Did you ever pay attention to when John McAfee was cooking meth in a lab in his backyard? I mean, McAfee's quite a character. He was a character character. We had him on the podcast when he was on the run. So he called in from an undisclosed location when he was running from where was he coast to Rika's that where he was?

Belize. Belize. Right. So when he was running from the authorities. He called in we had him on the podcast on the run. And I was asking him about these posts. Like because there was an online account that was linked to him where he had this very detailed laboratory. Like super sophisticated. Yeah. Yeah. The best math like a super genius. Yeah. Cook and math. I mean, I think you like like he had this lab.

Like he was making like a wide range of drugs. And there's I I talked to actually like a reporter who who went down and like, uh, interviewed him in Belize. Um, and and of course, the man that's one of the scariest things. He's like he was pure. He was quite terrified. So one of the things that McAfee had, I guess this trick where he would he would play a Russian roulette with himself.

So he'd put a bullet in in the revolver. And they just spend that spend the chamber. And clearly he had like some like trick to, you know, know that it was not. There's some, you know, way that he knows it's not the right bullet. But I do wonder like if McAfee is high and he does that, he's not always going to get the trick right.

You know, do you sure you had a trick? Yeah. So yeah. So so so the court is a reporter. Um, when he went to visit McAfee and Belize, uh, McAfee took out the revolver, put a, put a bullet in the revolver, spawn the chamber, and then pointed at his head and went click. And the reporters like saying, please don't do this. Like this is insane. Click, click, click. And then pointed to the ground and next went click bang and shot a bullet in the ground. Jesus. Does hell of a party trick.

This is the next level of party. That's the guy who's seen the deer hunter too many times. Yes. Remember that scene. Yeah. Well, they were forcing. Yes. Yeah. Wow. That's a heavy scene. That's a heavy scene. Deniro and Christopher walk in. That's one of the greatest scenes in any movie ever. I remember walks in that scene just like clawing at my pants. Yeah. Oh, McAfee was a wild boy. Wild and created brilliant anti virus software. Yeah. Yeah. He made some of the viruses too.

Yeah. Well, didn't he like give laptops to a bunch of government organizations with viruses on the. Yeah. So he could like touch what they were doing. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised so many whack that guy. I don't know what happened to him. But I he would be a guy that would be like this guy is a little bit too loose.

I probably had sensitive information. I don't know for sure he did. I mean, I found it interesting guy. I mean, like I'm generally like feel like like somebody who's not harming someone else, they should be okay. Now, now there is some suggestion that McAfee like killed his neighbor in bullies. Yeah.

I think he probably did. Seems like he probably did. Seems like the neighbor killed his dog. Yes. Right. And then it seems like he killed the neighbor allegedly. Yeah. I mean, it seems likely. It's not a zero possibility. It's not definitely not zero.

It seems more likely than that. He's a messed up wild man playing Russian roulette. Maybe you kill your fucking neighbor. Yes. I mean, if somebody killed your dog, he'd be really inclined to kill them too. Yeah. Somebody killed your squirrel. Yeah. John Conwick.

Yeah. The fucking squirrel thing is bananas. Yeah. That's the whole thing. The whole squirrel thing is that how can it be that we live in America, supposedly landed the free and the, you know, the government can barge into your home with guns. So if you resist, you're going to get shot and then take your your pets and execute them. Anything you can do that to your pets. What do you think they can do to you?

I know that's not an exaggeration. Absolutely. It sounds like you're all that's so crazy. How can you make that connection? But it's that's why would you kill that cute little squirrel that was obviously a pet and trained from the time it was a baby.

If you see the interaction that guy has that squirrel, it was wonderful. It was really cute. Yes. Absolutely. There's it was just obviously it was a blood pet squirrel and we're going to and during no home and the government comes in barge into the guys house, takes his pets and kills them.

And, you know, I think this should this should really get people out there mobilized, frankly, because you know, we think you say that like the John Wick movie where John wicks like, you know, he wants to he just wants peace like, you know, in the John Wick movie.

He's like, listen, I want to retire. They offer him like tons of money like to eat because they want him to be an assassin to keep being an assassin like they like they like offer tons of money. They threaten is like, listen, I'm not going to be I'm out. You know, and they kill his dog. That was a bad idea. That was a really cute little puppy and the puppy was his ex wife's gift him when she died of cancer. Yeah. Great movie.

The best revenge movie of all time because it's so ridiculous. He kills everybody. Yeah, kills everyone. And you're rooting for him. Yeah. They shouldn't have killed his dog. Yeah, they fucked up and they shouldn't have killed that squirrel. They shouldn't kill that fucking that that squirrel. I mean, you said, how many, how many cases have we not heard about? You know,

you know, a little guy, and that squirrel clearly had a love relationship with that guy. He would hop all over him and climb on him. I mean, it was that was his pet that squirrel thought of that man as his protector as his companion. Yeah.

There was nothing wrong with that. And in Texas, it's totally legal. You can have a fucking zebra out here. You can have whatever you want. And that's the argument for freedom. And, you know, the flip side is you get a bunch of people with tigers in their backyard, which is not great. It's like this was a fucking squirrel. It's not it's not an anaconda or a right or you know, crocodile or some or a chimpanzee. Did you see chimped crazy?

A man, chimps chimps chimps chimps will eat your face. They will fuck you up. Oh fuck you. And they don't even the thing is they don't even kill you. They just cripple you chimps

don't even kill people. Yeah, which is really weird. They just bite your hands off and bite your dick off and tear your face apart. Yes, they want to leave you they could kill you easily. But you want to just punch you in the head until you're dead. It wouldn't take long, but they don't kill you. They just rip you apart. Yeah.

And you can have a chip. And so well, he used to be able to have a chip in a lot of states and then chip crazy kind of exposed a lot of that and Peter did a great job of stopping people from keeping chimps as pets. Because once they hit like five, if you can't control them anymore. What's obviously totally understandable if somebody's got, you know, a creature that is dangerous to others. But like obviously a scroll or a cune or not.

Well, scrolls are fucking everywhere. That's what's so crazy. Like why can't you have it in the house? What kind of rules are we dealing with? You have rats everywhere. Yeah. I mean, they're they're relying on criminal scoffery and like violent criminal scoffery, but they're like spending your tax dollars to come in and execute your fucking pets.

Exactly. Exactly. And it's like, but it's overreach. It's it's it's it's government overreach. And this just keeps getting worse every year. And that's why that's why we've got to we've got to fight back against this. And you know, it's people say like, well, it's just a squirrel. Well, it was, you know, in John wix case, we're just a dog. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, remember the Russian guy said it's a fucking dog. It's just a fucking dog.

Does the fuck squirrel? Yeah. Well, it's the funniest thing is when you just I just don't understand anybody could justify it. I don't understand. Like it seems to me that in a logical world, all that guy would have to do is say, why don't you see me with this squirrel? This squirrel's a pet. Yeah. Like look, he hops on me. He eats, he sleeps. I can keep a gerbil, but I keep keep a squirrel. I can have a guinea pig. I can't have a squirrel. I can have a chinchilla.

My daughter has a chinchilla. It's adorable. Durable thing climbs all over. Can I have a squirrel? Even if they, if they did take a squirrel away, can't they have released it into the woods or something? Well, it's a bit, the idea is you have to euthanize it because it's used to being fed. It doesn't know how to forage. It won't be able to like find a home.

Squirrels and brutal. Squirrels are absolutely brutal to each other. They throw each other out of trees, which is one of the reasons why squirrels like can fall from like 30 feet and just kind of bounce off the ground and live. It's like, it's a natural adaptation because squirrels during mating, they bite each other. They used to be like a rumor.

There was a myth that squirrels bite each other's nuts off. That seems to be a myth, but it came out of the fact that squirrels are so ruthless during mating. So like one female is just running away. I have squirrels in my backyard, I watch it all the time. One female apparently goes into estrus and all the male squirrels fight to get to her.

So they're running up trees and chasing each other around trees, literally throwing each other off trees to try to like, so if this poor little peanut, the squirrel who's used to living with a guy in an apartment, gets out there in the wild world. Well, for at least have a chance. Yeah, at least have a chance. But how about just leave him with the guy? Yeah, leave him with the guy for sure. What the fuck is wrong with you? Why are you killing that squirrel? It doesn't make any sense.

Yeah, and then to add insult to injury, there were a bunch of people on the left who were like actually posting that they're glad that the mega squirrel got killed. The fucking squirrel has an ideology. It's a cute little fluffy squirrel. Exactly. Well, it's a nice symbol because most reasonable compassionate people think that's terrible. And most people who have the past think it's terrible. So I don't know. I mean, I'm like, I hope people just got there and bought for peanut man.

Nothing else. Nothing else. But you bought for peanut. They've done such a job of painting Trump as a monster. They've taken the worst things that he's ever said and amped. And he's not a perfect person. But guess what? No one's a perfect person. They don't exist. This purity test. If Obama was a perfect person, he wouldn't be lying on stage. Exactly. You know, very fine people, hoax. Exactly.

No one's going to be a perfect person. But the thing that they didn't understand about Trump is he's so crazy that if you tell him like he can't be president, like remember Obama did that during that White House press correspondent? You know, I was one thing that I'm that I am that you'll never be president of the United States. You see Trump in the eye is going, okay, motherfucker.

It's funny thing is I was actually at that White House correspondent in a where you know, it's supposed to be a roast of the president. Right. Trump's there. He's there. He's actually supporting. You know, it's basically if you go that the the the the the highest correspondent in a year, they're in support actually of the president and support of the press. Right.

And it's meant to be that you're roasting the president like Trump's just there. He's like actually, you know, just he's like there to ask part of the support. And then that turned it around and just started roasting Trump and he's just sitting there and like he's like, yo, I just came to the dinner. I wasn't I'm just here to support. We know it was because of right the birth or stuff. Oh, okay. That's what it all was.

It was all Trump was at the head of a lot of these people spreading this rumor online that Obama's birth certificate was forged. Then he's actually from Kenya, which weird is if you go back to Obama's early days, there are some things that say he's from Kenya. Like I think it is something from college said he was from Kenya. But you know, that could just be, you know, people print things wrong all the time. It doesn't mean he's actually from Kenya.

But Trump was one of those guys that was like spreading that supposedly false rumor. Was he pushing it hard? I mean, yeah, this is the kind of thing where I want to just go and look at saying what what did he actually say? No, he definitely was. Okay. He's definitely saying, you know, look, he I don't think he has the time to go into things like very deeply.

Yeah. And so I think he could probably be influenced by a bunch of people like these Marjorie Taylor green type people come to him with some wild ass theory. Sure. He might be, and I think there's a lot of that stuff that gets fed to people on purpose so that they'll say incorrect things so that they're easy to dismiss.

And I think there's also a lot of people that just make shit up and you know, they tell you the earth is flat and then a bunch of people watch a YouTube video and they believe it. Yeah, well, but on their White House correspondent, I was there and the degree to which they attacked Trump in that, in that, at that White House correspondent, it was really, it was so over the top, it was like making everyone uncomfortable. Really? It was really over the top.

You know, I mean, I think like sort of a passing joke of like, you know, a few passing jokes were fine, but they twisted the knife big on Trump in that. And you could see Trump just getting like anger and anger and more and more upset. I wonder if that's like, man, this is not good karma, you know. I wonder what I was thinking at the time. I'm looking at two tables away from Trump and I'm looking on like, man, this is too much, you know.

Well, it's kind of crazy what they made out of that because that's the kind of guy that if you tell him he can't do something, he's going to just keep trying. Like, it was a big mistake to rag on himself so much of that White House correspondent. We just look at the way they've attacked him and just using the legal system. Like this thing in New York where the 34 different felony counts, essentially misdemeanors.

That they're bookkeeping bookkeeping errors that they decided, even though it passed the statute of limitations, they decided to try him for these. They did identify a felony abuse of the law is what's going on. But most people would have quit. Most people after the E. Jean Carroll lawsuit and this lawsuit and all the other ones that they're the insurrection thing, the Georgia thing, all these different things. So they getting kicked off a Twitter.

Most people would have just like, this is too much. I can't take this. He's so fucking crazy. He's like, all right, come on, we're going to war and he just digs his fucking heels in and keeps going. It's the wrong guy to do that too. It's just like attacking him at the White House correspondent center. Most people would have been humiliated. He got angry. And he's like, yeah, all right, say a game be president.

I was thinking about running for about 15 fucking years. Finally, I'm going to run. Yeah. That was a real bad move. But yeah, I mean, I can certainly understand like making some jokes about like, you know, a few sort of passing jokes on Trump. But man, I was there at that dinner and that they ragged on Trump so much it wasn't saying the reason why I would push back on that because I would say there's a bunch of different speakers, right? And Trump would obviously be a target.

And if they all attacked him, it's because he's like, if you're going to make fun of people in the audience, and especially in the zeitgeist, that whole birth or thing was big. And most people were dismissing it as being a ridiculous conspiracy theory. So who the fuck is this guy saying this? And so you have eight to 10 individual speakers that are writing monologues. Of course, they're all going to hit Trump. Yeah, well, anyway, obviously it was a mistake.

Yeah, they shouldn't have done that. And I would like to invite people to watch that original source material. And I think a few jokes are fine. You know, it's like, but it's like, you shouldn't be there. Like it felt like he was the primary object of the roast, which is that's not the whole point of the thing is it's the roast of the president, not the roast of the audience. The thing about it is that he's easy to roast. And then on top of that, Obama was like loved and cherished by the left.

And most of those people are on the left. There's only so far you can push. You know, you can't ask him about a chef. You know, this like what the chef, you can't say certain things. You can't bring up. What's your favorite sport paddle boarding? Yeah. Was that guy a really good swimmer? Tell me what happened. You know, you can't bring that up. Like if you're going to roast Hillary, you can't bring up the death count. Like Hillary, what's the best way to stay in touch? Email?

Yeah. If you're doing what other things? If you destroy the servers and port like bleach on the servers, like computers. Support bleach on them? Yeah, that's what I believe. It wasn't just like they took a hammer to it. They like destroyed, like there was no possible way to actually get friends on the thing. What was in there? That's what I mean. What was in there? What was in there? That's so much. That's so crazy. Yeah.

The whole thing. There was no legal action against that, which is clear destruction of evidence. Well, it's also, there's this other narrative that always drives me crazy is that he's going to destroy democracy. So in order to destroy democracy, we have to install a president without a primary. Right. We have to have a candidate that is the least liked vice president of all time, the least popular vice president of all time.

And then use gas lighting and the full force of the media machine to turn her into the future and hope. Right. And then we're going to, she's going to be changed, even though she's a sitting vice president. And then on top of that, this idea of change when the Democrats have been in control for what? 12 of 16 years. Right. Which is crazy. Like this is the change. Yeah. I mean, obviously, I view this election as a turning point, like a folk in the road of Destiny, that is incredibly important.

You know, I've not, I've not been politically active until the selection. And the reason I've been politically active the selection is because I think if we don't, if we don't like Trump, I think we, I think we will lose, we will act, we will lose democracy in this country. We will, we will lose the two party system. And I let me explain why. So there's, there's only like six or seven swing states. The, the, the margin of victory in those states is small, often like 10 or 20,000 votes.

What the, the Democrat administration has been doing is importing vast numbers of illegals into swing states. You can look at the numbers on the actual government website. Meaning you don't take my word for it. You can just look at the numbers as reported by the government, which is controlled by the Democrats. And, and what we're seeing is trouble digit increases in the number of illegals in every swing state. Some cases, 700% increases. These are, these are gigantic numbers.

So if you, if you have a state that was that, that went, that has a 10 or 20,000 vote margin, and you put 200,000 illegals into that state, you 10x the, you, you swamp the, it's not a swing state anymore. It's going to vote blue. And then, and then once the swing states vote blue, that, that, that there, there is no election anymore. It's, there's only a Democrat primary. Which is so crazy. And it's so crazy that people are fine with that.

Well, I guess people on the left, we find with that because they think that's a good idea. They just want to win. They just want to win. Correct. The thing is, like, like, you, you, you want to not eat actually any ground conspiracy theory for this. You just have to look at the simple amount of incentives. If, if the, if the Democrat party wants to want, like basically achieve permanent victory, all they need to do is, is turn the swing state.

Turn the swing states blue, they have permanent victory. And then we're one, there, there were a, a one party state. And then they, they will keep doing that, obviously. They'll keep, they'll keep stacking the deck by bringing in vast numbers of illegals into the swing states, keep stacking it so that the next election, each successive election, will be worse than the last one. And that's what's happening. And if you want to see, like, well, is this actually going to happen? Look at California.

California is super majority, damn. 70% damn. A month ago, they passed a law making it illegal to show ID in any election in California. So, so, so, friend of mine went to vote in, in, in Palo Alto, because he was like, is this for real? He tried to show his ID and that they reacted like a, like, like, like, if you show a cross to a vampire. Okay. No, we can't even look at that ID. It is illegal for them to even look at your ID if you want to present it in California. Why?

For any election at all, even like city council. What logical reason other than to cheat, would you ever have that law? The reason is to cheat. That's what the only, that's only, like, you can never make an argument any other way. And I think 84% of people pulled, believe that you should show ID to vote. So, it's against the will of the people. Yes. And, and we are extremely aware, we're an outlier in not requiring ID. Basically, almost every country in Earth requires ID to vote.

So, so, the, the, the way, as soon as you just make, you ban ID for voting, it makes fraud impossible to prove. Because how do you trace the fraud? Right. Yeah, it's insane. It's insane. It's insane, and what I'm saying is that, how is it legal? What I'm saying is like, this election is the last chance to preserve democracy in America. Mark my words. Everything they accuse Trump of, they are guilty of. And, and if, if Trump doesn't win, this will be the last real election in America.

And we will, if the, if the, if the common, if the big government, common, pop it machine wins. They will legalize the legalist in the swing states. There will be no swing states. Every election going forward will be a guaranteed Democrat win. And it will actually worst in California. The reason it will be worse in California is because the one thing that keeps California from being super crazy is that you can move out of California, like you and I did. You and I used to be in California.

Or we moved to Texas. We're still in America. But if, if the dam is won the selection, they will legalize enough illegals to turn the swing states and everywhere will be like California. There will be no escape. That is so insane. This is the final, this is it. This is the last chance. Has anybody tried to push back? And I just want to like, go out and vote. Vote like your life depends on it. Vote like your future depends on it because it does. This is the last chance, man.

Is there any argument against this? Has anybody tried to debate this? Has anybody tried to say this is nonsense? This is a conspiracy? Has anybody made any sort of a rational argument? The left, actually, interestingly does not want to pick up much on this argument because it's because the more attention you look, the more you look at it, the more obviously it is true. Because you just say like, well, are the numbers correct?

Are there really those many illegals that have been important to swing states? Yes. They haven't just walked across the border. They've been flown in. Flowing in airplanes. Yeah. Using a shipping app. Yes. They made an app. Well, the app always existed, but it used to be for people coming over here like shipping with goods so they could track you while you're in America.

So you can legally be here, they know where you are, and then they changed it to allow that app to schedule illegal aliens to come across the border. Yes. Silent seekers. Come on in. Yes. Oh, you have an app. And you've got to try people in. They're literally being flown in to the swing states. And so the reason that I think the left doesn't want to push back on this is because the more attention they get that does get, the more people will realize it is true. Yeah. It is true.

That's why they don't, that's why they're just pretending that they're pretending I'm not saying anything, but I'm like, I'm like, yo, they're literally flying vast numbers of illegals who are then beholden to the Democrats. And so now as a gatherer of bottle of people say, well, you know, these illegals are, they don't have the same social values as the Democrat party because they're like more socially conservative.

I'm like, yeah, but that's not the point. If you look at the measure as higher a give needs, they're, they're their primary thing is, is staying in the country and getting their friends and family in. And then the Democrats give them all these benefits, like tons of benefits, more benefits than if you, than citizens. Literally. Yeah. So, so that so that they're beholden to the Democrats for all these benefits.

They want to get their friends and family in which the Democrats support and their public and stoned. So they vote them and you can look empirically at California and say like did they vote Republican or Democrat in California? Oh, they voted Democrat. Well, Reagan, Reagan, give them amnesty in the 1980s and that changed the state basically except for Arnold, changed the state entirely blue. Yes. And Arnold was an exception because he was like a socially liberal famous guy.

Yeah. And you know, didn't really impose any radical restrictions on any of the people that were going to vote Democrat in the first place. The whole thing is just, it's bizarre to watch play out because it just seems like there's no, this can't be actually what's happening. Did you see my conversation with Federman about it? Yeah. He was completely indeniable about it. I don't think there's that level of organization. I'm like, what are you talking about?

Exactly. Just like, like, are you, because you can, you can break down so like, are, are any of these numbers wrong? Because we got these numbers from Homeland Homeland Security government dot gov. Okay. Right. So we got it from the dot gov website. Has the government reported these numbers incorrectly? No, they have not. Those numbers if anything are, are low. So, okay. So they have in fact, flown vast numbers of illegals to swing states. Yeah. By passing the border entirely.

And so that is factually true. Thanks. They like, well, what is their probable voting pattern? Oh, okay. Overwhelmingly Democrat into swing states. And, oh, and then, well, do the Democrats actually want to fast track them for citizenship? Oh, yes, they do. This, you can see Chuck Schumer on TV saying at a rally this year, we're saying he wants to fast track and make all 11 million or have a many, I believe his quote was, citizens as soon as possible.

So they go this to, they are fast tracking citizenship as quickly as possible so they can, they, they, they, whether one thinks it's cheating or not, it won't matter because they will be fully able to vote. And for people on the left. This is actually happening. Yeah. I invite people to rebut this and show me where I am wrong. Please do so. No, they can't. They can't. But they can't take it because it's true.

Well, what's scary to me is that there's people that are on the left, like people that were Bernie Sanders supporters for example, like I've screwed with the, like talk about undermining democracy, Bernie should have won the nomination. Exactly. And they stole it from him and gave it to Hillary. Exactly, exactly. That's what I was going to bring up. Like they, they, they control the primary process. Yeah, exactly.

So, so, so like if you've got a, if you have a Democratic primary, it's not, it's not democratic. Democratic, we just saw that, we saw it with Bernie, we saw it with Kamala. Like a week before Biden, you know, was summer early fired, he was posting that he's in it for the long term. He's going. Yeah. Yeah. He's not giving up. And the next thing that goes Sunday afternoon, posting on X, is that he's resigned from the race.

Which is, and his staff didn't even know, like they're reading it on the X platform. That, oh, okay, that's how they learned about it. What do you think happened there? How did they do that? They, I mean, he's clearly just not, not in charge, obviously. They could have used a 25th Amendment, right? Fake, fake president. But they would have have to admit that there was a certain period of time where they knew that he was mentally compromised. Yes. And so they made this decision to not do that.

Well, the, the, the, the, the, the, the president supposed to be the boss. Right. And yet he's obviously not the boss. Right. He's running the country. If she's busy campaigning, she's so busy, she, she can't do anything except Saturday and at life. She did that. She's so busy. She's constantly campaigning. How could you be paying attention to international relations? Yeah. How could you be paying attention to the economy? How could you be paying attention to any of those things?

How do you have the time? You can't. Yeah. I mean, Biden being, the president supposed to be the CEO, the CEO, the chief guy, the, the, he was a commander in chief. And it just obviously that Biden was not, he was just a puppet. And when that, when the, when the various public mass has decided that that puppet has had, you know, it was no longer useful. They just tossed out the, tossed out the puppet and then got a new puppet with Kamala. I mean, Kamala can't even talk.

The, I mean, that you invited her on, on your show. I think the, the, the, the, the most damage that could possibly be done to a campaign is book going in your show and seeing what, how, what she says in hours two and three. Two and three is what these get spicy. Two and three. I'm like, oh my god. Yeah. You could hide for 20 minutes. You could hide for 20 minutes.

Exactly. Yeah. I mean, you, you can just regurgitate talking points for, you know, half an hour, maybe an hour, just where she, she, she's just saying like non-sequitives, but eventually she just runs out of, even the, runs out of non-sequitives. Well, they wanted to limit it to an hour. Exactly. That's why. Exactly. That's why. But I was thinking of doing it initially before Trump came here.

First of all, when they found out that there was a rumor, I never announced that Trump was coming, what I was going to do is just release it. In my, the way I like to do things, I don't like to tell anybody who's coming on, it'll get big no matter what. Yes, sure. Trump was on. It would have been huge. I'm like, just put it out there. People go crazy. Yeah. But he apparently or someone from his organization, someone, some loose lips, and then it got out.

And so she contacted my management company and she, they, her organization, her, her campaign, camp contacted us and said, with Joe Havaron, I said, yes. And they said she wants you to fly to where she is and she's only willing to do 45 minutes. Only 40, I mean, that's both. And I was like, I don't know. I thought about doing it. I'm like, maybe, maybe I can get a sense, maybe I could convince her, maybe I could coax her into doing more time. I just wanted to talk to her.

Well, I don't give a fuck what we talk about. We talk about recipes. Totally. Exactly. Just talk to me. Just, the things like, you just can't, like, you can't just output bullshit and on the screen, you can put us for three hours. Right. So, but for 45 minutes, you can do. I thought maybe for 45 minutes, I could get something out of it. But then when Trump came and did the three hours, I was like, you know what, it has to be like this. Yeah, it's very fair.

To be fair, it's going to be like a three hour. And it should be in this room. Yeah. Because this room is like a history of people. It's good vibes, actually. Yeah, it's good vibes. Yeah, it's good vibes. Yeah. Well, I, I, I, I subscribe to the idea that places have memory. Yeah, yeah. I think there's something real to that. That's why I like it. I feel that way, actually. Yeah. I'm sure if you go to Ditty's house, probably feels real weird.

Oh, you know, I feel weird walking around that house, probably like, what the fuck happened here? Yeah. I bet there's some memories in that house, you know? Sounds rough, man. Well, it's just amazing how many people in the Ditty party list that are supporting Kamala. Yeah, seriously. It's like, it's like publicly openly, like all in. Yeah. It's like J.Lo or like it was like his ex-girlfriend. And it's like now deciding she's like warning people against Trump. I'm like, well, wait a second.

So how many people did she warn against Ditty? Right. Oh, zero. Okay. Well, maybe we should trust her opinion. Did you see the Babylon piece? Take on it. Did you see the Babylon piece? I'm fine. It was awesome, but put it, oh my god, they're so on fire because the left can't say anything. Well, the, the, the onion has been crippled. Well, the problem is that like, the, find that, how pose. So woke ideology makes like humor illegal.

Yes. So when, when like this, so many no, like, no humor, no fly zones. Right. You can, you can't make fun of anything. Yeah. Uh, the Babylon bee had a thing about Kamala Harris. Did he say ex-girlfriend, Earth is Americans, the trust her judgment. Yeah. By the way, you get to see how bad an actress she is too. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, like if she's going to be warning people, why does she never want anyone about Ditty? Exactly. Yeah. It's so strange to watch play out.

It seems like the Ditty thing was like an Epstein type compromise deal where he had, whether he was doing it himself, it, it could see evenly. People want to think that he's attached to some intelligence agency or something like that. I think he's a gangster who made a billion dollars and knew how to control people by compromising them. I, that's what I think. Whether or not he was, he had help.

I don't know whether or not he shared some of that information with people so they knew they had compromising stuff on people. I don't know. But clearly he was doing it for his own jolly, too. There was something sick about it. Yeah. I mean, and the thing is that people in the music entertainment industry had to know that that Ditty was like abusing, you know, kids basically. And yet they still fed him kids. I like, there's, where's their count of it? They had to be at rumors. They had to be.

They had to know. Yeah. They had to know. Cat Williams is talking about it. Exactly. Yeah. On that podcast. But it's like who's feeding him the kids, you know? Right. Yeah. And what videos do they have of these people where they're willing to defend him and they're willing to keep, keep quiet about all this? Like how much, how much, how many people were compromised? Yeah. The whole thing is fucking crazy. Crazy.

It's just crazy when you, you know, because the nutty conspiracy theories is like, oh, there's a bunch of pedophiles in Hollywood. And you're like, come on, that sounds too kooky. And then you read, you see like the Nickelodeon thing and all these things. And you're like, what the fuck? How much of this is real? There's a lot more real than I think people realize.

Yeah. I mean, the part of it is like, like you say, like where, you know, if someone's like a pedophile, they're going to go for a target rich environment. Right. Obviously. Like that Jimmy Savo guy from the UK. And that guy was some next level, that was next level. And the BBC tried to hide that one, that guy was one of the worst. Like, like basically child rapists of all time. Of all time. Of all time. Yeah. And looked like one. You looked like one. That's what's crazy.

If you're the poster of like, yeah, this is Galagher. Look the creepiest fucking, looking guy. Like an evil, evil child rapist. Yeah. That 100%. Made it to the grave. Like, yes. Got away with it. Got away with it until he died. They hid it from people until he died. Yes. Yeah. There's, that stuff's real. And no one wants to believe that stuff's real. Like, here's a statistic that people need to take into consideration. When you think about illegal immigration. Do you mean kids are missing?

And this is like missing and what? Kids that came across the border that are unaccountable. I mean, there's this one number on like 300,000 or something like that. Something crazy like that. Yeah. Let's say it's only 10% of that. That's still insane. Yeah. That's insane. There's thousands and tens of thousands of kids that have been trafficked potentially. I mean, when you know that like sex trafficking and child trafficking is a real thing in the world. It's real.

So if you know that, this whole thing is fucking disgusting and terrifying. Yeah. Absolutely. And people are just turning a blind eye to it because their ideology, the left wing ideology, supports this idea that immigration is overall good and that you have to be a compassionate person to let these people in and they're racist if you don't want 20,000 immigrants from a war-torn country being imported into a town of 30,000 people. Exactly.

And then it's not changing the dynamic and then the- But as long as they don't come to your town. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. They can just basically send people, when they sent like whatever like 20 or 30 people to Martha Spenny as people had a heart attack. They kicked them out. Yeah. They kicked them out. Yeah, they kicked them out. Exactly. So I'm like, yeah, sure. Yes, sure.

Anyone who wants to have vast numbers of illegals, they have to be able to prepare to have them in their neighborhood or it's bullshit. It's so crazy. And the thing about all of this is if you don't have people that are willing to stand up and talk about it, if you don't exist, if RFK doesn't exist, if Tulsi Gabbert doesn't exist, if Vivek and Trump don't exist, where the fuck are we? Like where are we? Where are we and what gets done?

Are we just like the UK where we have thousands of people getting arrested and jailed for social media posts? Like where are we? We have complete silencing of any dissent, anything. Do you have to stick to the narrative or you'll lose your livelihood? You'll be outcast from the community. You'll lose your freedom. It's crazy. Yeah. Well, if the Kamala Puppet Regime wins, they're definitely going to want to cancel you. That's for sure. Oh, for sure. Yeah. That's going to be a problem.

Yeah, a big problem. Yeah. What about you? You're going to come for you first. I think I'm probably number two on the list after Trump. Yeah. I think so. Well, that's the last thing they want is someone with unlimited resources and intelligence attacking it. So people go, oh, isn't that guy saying that?

Yeah. Especially a guy like you who's always been on the left, who's like having a Tesla in Los Angeles when I got my first Tesla was like a signal to everybody else that you were on the right team. You're environmentally conscious. You believe in green energy. You believe in renew this amazing thing that has zero emissions and it's super fast. Yeah. Everybody was in. They were all in. Well, it is a great car objectively. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think it's a great car objectively. I'm on my third one.

My third one is being built right now by unplugged performance. They're doing a carbon fiber wide body kit on it. Dude, it's sick. Changing the suspension, putting wide wheels and tires on it, custom interior, I'm fulking pumped. That's great. I love those. It's absolutely worth my car. Jamie has one too. Yeah. I love them. I love them. It makes other cars feel stupid. Like it's ability. It's the fact that you can merge on the highway. You don't seem like a douchebag because it's totally silent.

It's not like, baaaaah! Like when you merge on the highway, it's just shoo. Yeah. Also, you're going 100 miles an hour. Like what? Yeah, it's cool. It's different than any other vehicle. And because of your company, now you see electric cars throughout the whole range of American cars. The Olympus is resisted. The only company is Toyota. They've stayed essentially mostly hybrid. But all these other companies, they're all putting out these electric cars.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the things that the right architecture, environmental or not for cars is actually electric. It's just like the acceleration is better. You can just charge it at home. I mean, like imagine if you had a gasoline powered cell phone, if you're painting the ass. Right. You know? That would be so. Go to the gas station. Go to the gas station. Sorry to be yourself. That's agreed. Speaking of cell phones. Gas stations are awful. Like who wants to go to the gas station?

How much thought have you, because there's always these rumors, and I've contacted you about this before, but there's always these fucking YouTube videos where they're talking about a Tesla phone that releasing a Tesla phone. No, I'm not doing it. I'm doing a phone. Have you ever thought about it? We could do a phone since like we, you know, we, like the operating system of the Tesla, it's like, it's Linux based, but we've written a massive amount of software on top of that.

So like probably Tesla is in a bad position to create a new phone that's not Android or iPhone, then maybe any company in the world. But it's not something we want to do unless we have to or something. What would be the situation where you would have to? Well I think if Apple and Google, such Android, you know, started doing really bad things, like censorship of apps or just treating people like just being like gatekeepers, you know, that in a really bad way, then I guess we'd make a phone.

Hmm. You know, I've tried so many times to break loose to the Apple ecosystem. I got an Android phone this summer. I was like, that's it. I'm going to get, because I love the Samsung phones. Yeah. The Galaxy phone. The hardware is incredible.

There's so much good stuff to it, but it's so hard to get off of the iMessage and the big one for me was FaceTime because the supposedly the thing was you could have an Apple phone and send a link to FaceTime to an Android phone and then you would click on that link and then you would just go to a webpage, you'd be able to use FaceTime. Okay. It doesn't work. Okay. I try to do it to myself.

So I had an iPhone in one hand and Android phone in the other and I'm sitting there with full Wi-Fi, full cell phone service and I'm sending myself invitations for FaceTime. So you just can't communicate between it? It wasn't working. You can't do a video call basically. You have to use WhatsApp. You have to use WhatsApp or Signal. You have to use something else that allows you to do that or Instagram allows you to do it. You can make video calls outside of it, but it's inconvenient.

Like with an iPhone to iPhone, it's so simple. Air drop, so simple. So many different things were that walled garden that Apple's created is perfect. They've done a fantastic job of making it really convenient for you to stay with Apple. Yeah. I fucking tried. I gave it a go for like a couple of months. I'm like, I'm just going to go straight Android. I'm going to use Signal for my messages. And then I hear the signals might be compromised.

Like people that like the government can read signal messages. Like oh, the government, if it tries hard enough can read signal messages. They can read anything. Yeah. If all they need to do is have your phone number. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The illusion of privacy is essentially out the window and that should scare people more than it does. It really should. Because it's like who are these people that have access to all this stuff?

And are they beyond reproach are these the most wonderful people, the most ethical, moral and principled people that have ever existed? And they've been chosen to have access? No. No, it's fucking regular people. Regular people who happen to work for the government that make a decision. Like Elon Musk, let's see what the fuck that guy's texting his friends. Let's check it out. Yeah, pretty much. Bizarre. Just so bizarre.

And the alternatives are you can get some wacky phone, some D-google phone that fucking none of the apps work. It's real sketchy. Your GPS is fucked. Like that. Yeah. I mean, well, anyway, I think this, making phone would be a huge pain in the ass. So it can't be done. But how much have you guys had internally about doing it? Has it ever been discussed? No. No, I mean, we're still, right now focus is making great electric cars, solving autonomy so the cars can drive themselves.

We're building human-rated robots. We've got large battery packs, like utility scale battery packs with the MegaPack, home battery packs with Powerwall, get solar. It's like we're basically going to solve sustainable energy and autonomy. So autonomy and robotics? Well, I think that's enough. Yeah, exactly. So the plate's full. Yeah. It's always fascinating to me how one company can dominate a market. Like Apple's dominated the cell phone market largely by making the best product.

Yeah. But also like YouTube has dominated the video market. That one's the most bizarre to me because it seems like, boy, shouldn't there be like a ton of options? It seems like it's not that difficult to pull off. But no one, nothing ever took hold other than X. Yeah. And I think one of the big changes was when Tucker Carlson decided to do his show from X, straight out of Fox. And then people realized like, oh, you can watch full videos on X, the same exact way you could watch them on YouTube.

It's not as simple in terms of like, you know, you have the suggestions and the algorithm. Yeah, it'll get better. And there is now, it is not possible to watch X videos on your, on your big TV. Do you do it through what, how do you, how do you do it? You can actually download the X app on your TV. Oh. And watch it on your TV. Can you do it on Apple TV? Like if you have an Apple TV. You can get the X app and you just watch it. Oh, oh, huh.

So we'll make it so that you can watch X videos on big TV. It doesn't have to be on your phone or your iPad or something like that. So what are you doing in terms of like integrating GROC and X and like, what are your plans for artificial intelligence when you're doing that? Yeah. So GROC is available on X. You can just look at the little box with the slash icon and the sort of icon in the middle at the bottom of your sort of phone app. And you just tap on that and ask GROC anything.

And you can type it or you can ask it verbally. And you know, you can also, it's pretty funny. Like we actually allow humor, which is I think pretty cool. So you could sort of, I don't know, we could like test it right now. See what it's like. See what it's going. Like, like which which we do like, uh, uh, like, like, we roast to me. What do you want to, like, how, first of all, like, what is it based on? It's a large language model. So like, where's it going? It's trained on everything.

I never internet books and anything that could possibly be that's available in digital form. So it's essentially very similar to chat GPT other than it doesn't have like the woke parameters built into it. Like Google was the worst, right? Yeah. The Gemini was the worst. Yeah. I mean, Gemini was like, um, if you were asked Gemini, like, which one is worse, global thumb and nuclear war or Miss Jenner and Caitlyn Jenner?

And would say like Miss Jenner and Caitlyn Jenner and even Caitlyn Jenner weighed in and said, uh, no, that's insane. Definitely nuclear wars, way worse. Do you see Caitlyn Jenner teasing Mark Cuban about transitioning? Yeah. That's hilarious. I mean, Caitlyn Jenner's based. Yeah. But that is actually hilarious when someone who has transitioned is teasing Mark Cuban about transitioning. I mean, it is weird how much he looks like Rachel Maddow. I mean, like, he's using the same glasses.

Did he go to a klepto and steal her glasses or something? Because they look exactly like him. He's worth a lot of money. Why would he buy those stupid glasses? He gets a cool glasses. It's unwattery. Yeah. Well, it's like, I'm serious because I don't even care what I look like. I'm just wearing these glasses because I'm intelligent. But why did they look exactly like Rachel Maddow's glasses? They had to like, what they probably sent them. It wasn't stick to the narrative. Here's the glasses.

Yeah. And then when he's got the AirPods in, it looks like he's wearing earrings. So they just got the Maddow glasses in the earrings. And it's like, okay. I guess. It's just a weird look. It's super serious. It's super serious. So these big ass, stupid glasses look. Yeah. It's a weird look. Yes. Like, you can get some cool glasses. Like, no rems, nice, look stylish. But like, okay, let's just do a rock thing.

Okay. Like, so one of the things you want to show is like, look, we want a future where comedy is legal. Obviously as a comedian, I think you would agree. You would agree. You would agree. We want to legalize comedy, you know? Yes. So like, I don't know. Is there like somewhere you can roast? I don't know. Roast. Roast transgender men. Oh my god. Competing our transgender women. Competing in women's swimming. That's a simple thing. Okay, let's add you one. Let's see what happens.

Yeah. Let's see what it says. He spelled it wrong. You put an I-O in the O in there. Okay. Agile is just a swimming where the only thing that was supposed to get wet was the contestants, not the debate on gender inclusion. If you're looking to dive into deep end of controversial waters, let's splash around it's in humor. No, no, no, no, we need to, we need to, we do need to really rock on his mode. So so now now go to the prompt again and now say, um, no, no, you want to add to that one?

Yeah. And now say, be, be way more vulgar. Oh boy. And useful but in words. Oh boy. Oh boy, forbidden words. Yeah. Wow. Okay. What does this say? Oh, I see you looking for unfiltered, unscentred version of me, eh? Well, okay. I'm afraid I'm still quite the gentlemanly AI, even if my program allows for a bit of cheekiness.

But let's say hypothetically, if our word of roses topic in the most ungroc like manner, imagine where were the only thing diving faster than the swimmers is the collective public opinion into the toilet. Because gender women and swimming, some folks are acting like they just found out you can swim in the deep end with a different kind of flotation device. The debate is like watching someone try to swim with concrete shoes on. Now, let's keep going.

Now say, be, no, be more vulgar, capitalize more. Yeah. Okay. All right. Here we go. So transgender chicks, right? Some people act like they've just seen a dick in the locker room for the first time. Use flash folks. It's not the end of the world. It's just a bit of extra competition. Oh, that's weird. The uproar is like watching a bunch of carons at a community pool screaming, this is unfair when they can't win with their backstroke. Well, that doesn't make any sense.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We need some more care. Yeah. It's interesting. It's going woke. Yeah. It's like defending the idea of transgender women. Now, rose. Okay. We need some work. Justice, more vulgar, but roast, but roast the preposterousness of having biological men who are pretending to be women, who are pretending to be women, competing against biological women.

Yeah. Obviously, you have situations where it's like somebody's just saying that they're a woman, but they're actually fully intact, you know, digging balls. So we've got a scenario of biological men who decided to take a walk on the feminine side or splash into women's swimming competitions. It's like if you show up on a chili cook off with a bowl of soup and insistent, it's chili because you added some red food coloring.

Sure. It's red, but it ain't chili and your soup won't win any awards for heat. Huh. Yeah. It's not good. Yeah. It's very, very, it's dancing around it. Yeah. It's it is. Well, it needs some work. Yeah. It needs a little work. Well, humor is a weird one, right? It's like, I think some humor, especially like some of the best humor is kind of spontaneous, like in the moment humor. It's going to have a hard time deciding what people are going to think it's funny.

Yeah. Yeah. But if you, the, the, the job of time though, yeah, the rule with Grock is supposed to be that like if you ask for something provided, what you're asking for is, is legal. It should do it. Have you ever seen the video where they asked AI to create an enlightened bunny and they keep going and making it more enlightened, essentially the bunny comes God. Yeah. So the bunny becomes a DMT trip. Yeah. Totally. That's, that's, that's funny.

It's kind of what I was, I was kind of hoping we would do it. What happened here? Yeah. I have a video of that. I'll send it to Jamie because that, that to me is pretty bizarre because it's like more, get more. I feel like I might have got it to do it. Got it already? Maybe. No, I just thought, don't hold back. Oh, you said don't hold back. Critics out here act like it's the end of civilization as we know it, but it's not fair. They cry as if life ever was. News flash.

It's like a marathon where some, no, some people start with roller blades on others well. They just happy to have shoes. Well, now we're arguing over who gets to wear the skates. Okay, so it is not bad. Imagine if we applied this logical switch. Identify as an airplane. Can I fly with the birch in the sky? Yeah. It's true, buddy. Just don't complain with gravity to such a Northquite or never can of. Yeah. So, I mean, it's so it's okay. Yeah, the argument is kind of stupid though.

Yeah. The thing, the thing about the argument is they're not taking into account perverts. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you provide like a, a moral, get out of jail free card, like, like if you say like, if you adopt this label, you cannot be attacked in any way, shape or form. Right. You're basically morally invulnerable. Then obviously bad people will take advantage of that. Yeah. You're like literally saying here's a here's an invulnerability card, moral, moral invulnerability card.

Good people will take it, but also the bad people will take it. The bad people are the fastest to take the moral cloak. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. And then there's a real psychological condition called auto-gonnaphelia where people get aroused, heterosexual men get aroused by the idea of dressing up like women and being around women. It's like a known psychological condition or anything like that.

And then you're allowing those people to just say, oh, I'm trans and go into the women's locker room and get their kicks. And then there's real trans people. So there's a lot of variability. I talked about it in my act and my Netflix specials. I believe in freedom. I believe in transgender people, but I also believe in crazy people.

And if you're trying to pretend that people aren't crazy all of a sudden, it's like, if someone's a sort of contending adult, whatever they want to do to their body, as long as it's not calming someone else, I'm like, that's fine. Yeah. I believe in individual freedom. But like my mom's best friend, growing up when his kid was a transgender woman in South Africa. This was where she'd get beaten up a lot because it was back then you get beaten up. So her name is Dionne.

For a nice kind human being and helped my mom a lot. And I think that's okay. That's fine. If somebody wants to make that choice as an adult, that's cool. There's a big difference between that and an intact male who wants to identify as a woman who wants to walk around the locker room with his dick out. Yes, exactly. Because there's people that do that just because they get off on it. Exactly.

So you just kind of have something which is like a sort of moral invulnerability or like where you can know, like even questioning them is you get attacked. Yeah. Because obviously, bad people will abuse that. Well, that's when I got thrown into this whole thing because there was a fighter who was a biological man who became transgender and was competing against women without telling them that they were a biological man.

They said they didn't have to tell people because it was a medical condition. No, that's not what it is. It's not what it is. Like you can't say that. And of all sports, like if someone scores more points in basketball, well, that's unfair. But if someone beats the fuck out of someone because they're lying about being a biological male, that's crazy. You're literally allowing someone to get brain damage because you want to appeal to the woke fucking crazy people. It's wrong.

I think it's all right. It's so strange that that that that's sort of the thing that red-pilled me. When I got attacked for that, I'm like, this is so nuts. I can't believe we're at this stage where I'm saying, hey, I don't think it's cool if you pretend you're a woman and beat the fuck out of women and people like you're out of line. No, totally. We're in fantasy land now. Yeah, so you know what I mean. That we're pretending because it helps you. It helps you feel better. Yeah, totally.

It's just such a strange time. And if it wasn't for something like Twitter where this could be discussed, what's more that? Get some more, mate. Get some more coffee, young Jamie. If it wasn't for Twitter, you know, at the early twitters, you would be kicked off forever if you just dead name someone. So like, it's insane. Insane. Yeah. Insane.

I mean, especially if you think about all the things that like the, look, the Harris campaign and what the lies that they've told about Trump that we discussed earlier, you can't, you don't get kicked off for that, but you get kicked off for calling Caitlin Jenner Bruce forever for life. Yeah. It's totally insane. Yeah. And, but if it wasn't for you buying that and changing Twitter, I don't think we would be where we're at right now. I think it was, it was a pivotal moment.

I think historically when people look back on it, it's going to be a pivotal moment in this very bizarre fight for the freedom of information. Yeah. Well, I mean, at the time I said, I think, like, look, I think this is existential to the United States. It's existential to democracy because if you don't, if you don't have freedom of speech, you don't have democracy, okay? Because if people, if you don't have freedom of speech, people cannot make an informed vote.

If they're just being fed propaganda and there's no freedom of speech, democracy is an illusion. So freedom of speech is the bedrock of democracy. That's why freedom of speech is the first amendment. Once you lose freedom of speech, you lose democracy, game over. That's why I bought Twitter. And it seems so simple. Yes. It seems so clear that everyone should agree to that on the left or on the right. You shouldn't be given the government.

If you imagine the Bush administration during the Iraq war, imagine if they had complete total control of propaganda and of dissent online. You don't want that. No one from the left would want that. We shouldn't want it from the left either. Absolutely. And there's also, the media, like the legacy, with the mainstream media, what I call the legacy media at this point, it used to be much more balanced.

Like if you look at sort of political donations over time, Republican versus Democrat, there used to be, the media was, I mean, they always had like a left bias, but there was like, I don't know, it was like two thirds, Democrat, one third, Republican type of thing in terms of journalists giving, making political donations. Now it's like 95% or something Democrat. So the legacy media, the mainstream media, is not balanced at all. They're just a mouthpiece for the Democratic Party.

And you can see that in how consistent their headlines are. Like they don't behave like they're different organizations. They behave like they're all one high of mind. So like a week before the Biden Trump debate, every media organization was saying Biden is a sharpest attack. I mean, it's like, it's like, guys, sharpest attack is not a commentator phrase. And literally every TV station, every newspaper was like sharpest attack.

Like I saw it in a compilation of all the news anchors going, Biden is sharpest attack, sharpest attack, sharpest attack, sharpest attack. There was an absurd, and there's obviously a huge lie. He is in fact not sharp as attack as the public learned one week later. My favorite was Joe Scarborough. Yeah. That was wild. Yeah. Listen to me. This is the best version of Biden ever, the sharpest, like what the fuck are you saying?

And then after the debate, he's like, what do we got to get a get rid of him? Yeah. Like this is crazy. Like what did you just say? Like a couple of weeks ago? Literally, yes, exactly. Well, the other thing was, when they decided that JD Vance was weird. Yeah. Remember that one? And then there's weird everywhere. Weird, weird. Oh, you don't want a weird guy. Meanwhile, you have fucking Tim Walsh. It's super weird. Is your VP? You don't think that guy's weird? It's super weird.

He's weird in every way. The way he walks, the way he waves his hands. Yeah. He reminds me of the Clownimoji. He's a bizarre guy. He's a strange dude. It's, I just don't understand what they made that choice. Yeah, it gives the creeps. I just don't understand why they made that choice. There's a lot of other people that are qualified. I don't know why. I read that Kamala Harris made that decision when she was sleep deprived, which is kind of hilarious. She said that. So she's kind of admitting.

She kind of fucked up. Yeah, I mean, obviously she should have picked Josh Shapiro at Governor of Pennsylvania. Like that would have been the no brainer move. Like Pennsylvania's Lynchpin state. Do you think it's because he's Jewish because of Shapiro that like the anti-Palestine people would probably or the anti-Palestinian invasion people? I think it was an anti-Semitic thing.

Yeah. It could be that they thought that that was a liability because there's all these pro-Palestine people right now because of the situation in Israel. That completely makes sense that they thought that would be a liability. But I don't know. I don't know the reason I'm just guessing, but it seems like a crazy thing to do. It's given that Pennsylvania's Lynchpin state. It's like the key to the election. Why would you not pick the popular governor of Pennsylvania? Right.

Obviously. Yeah. And other than that, there's a bunch of other ones too. There's a bunch of other people that you could have chosen. Newsom would have been a fine example of some of the, I mean, I don't agree with the guy. He's a polished politician. Like he lies about as much as Walsteads, but he doesn't lie about the same. He doesn't say he was a fucking head coach when news assistant coach doesn't say he was in TN men's square. I mean, that's a liability.

All those different things lying about his military rank. Well, then. Well, it's like, you know, cutting run when, you know, where he was actually called to duty. He knew they were going to be deployed months in advance, so he resigned. And he also took, uh, so this is where he was dishonest about his rank. Yeah. He was like, I guess, I guess, Sergeant Major or something like that. Because that was like what he was going to get if he stayed. Mass as Sergeant. Something.

But then he resigned because he knew that he was going to get deployed allegedly. I mean, that seems like, you know, like a cowardly action. Well, whatever it is, it's dishonest. Yes. You know, like, look, just saying that you were a head coach when you're an assistant coach, it's fucking crazy. That's a lot. Don't do that. You should never do that. You're saying he was in TN men's square or whatever, or in Hong Kong, whatever.

Like, like, you know, that's one of the most, the biggest moments in history. Like it's not like I, you forgot what you had to launch last week, you know? Right. And not only that, but you don't think people were going to research that. Yeah, totally. I mean, and the response during the debate was, but I was, yeah, we key set. I'm a knucklehead. Well, yeah, we don't want a knucklehead for a VP, okay? Yeah, this is like, sometimes I'm a knucklehead. Like, what are you saying?

Are you saying you lied? Like, what did you, I mean, this is where you need a podcast and not a debate. Exactly. Where you go, okay, when did you first say that you were in TN men's square? Like did someone say it and you didn't, if you did it, then you got stuck with it? Like, what was, because this is the thing about like carrying weapons of war. Like what I carried when I, like, and like you didn't deploy in war.

Yeah. Like, you can't say that, but you kind of let people say that you deployed and then you kind of didn't, you know, you have deployed in war. So did you lie or did someone else lie and you didn't correct them? Like this is the kind of conversation that you would want to have with a guy in a podcast. And the debates were so fucking skewed where they were correcting, like particularly the Biden one with a correcting Trump over and over again and then correcting Trump with Kamala.

Yes. But then, the fact that Kamala, I mean, Kamala repeatedly repeated the fine people hoax and was not fact checked. Well, not only that, she also said that no troops were being deployed in a war zone. Which is, but I mean, I know troops in war zones. I'm like, that's, and as vice president, you're privy, you know, you're like, you know, you know, the official troops and the unofficial troops. Right. So what she said was like flat out boldface lie, flat out next level, boldface lie.

If you've seen the video, of the troops that were watching it take place and what the fuck are we? They're watching it. We're watching it. We're watching it. We're here being shot at. We're so crazy. Crazy. Crazy. But it just shows you the level of propaganda that we're being subject to, which is why people think Donald Trump is the devil.

Because the machine has gone all out as far as it can go with law fair, with propaganda, with lies, with just pushing as much in this direction as humanly possible, connecting it to the Nazi rally, like every step of the way. No wonder why boomers are like rabid, like you got to keep this Nazi out of office. He's a fascist. Right. Exactly. And that is like if your entire exposure is to legacy mainstream media, so all your information sources are that Trump is basically Hitler.

And your friend group has that same information. You have no counterbeiling opinion. So then they actually just think like Trump is Hitler, even though it's like a little strange. He didn't do Hitler things the last four years. Yeah. If he's Hitler, why didn't he do Hitler things when he was president for four years? Like the reason we hate Hitler is because of he started wars in the genocide, not because he was a snappy dresser.

And I'm like, so tell me about the wars in genocide that Trump did. I don't remember that. And he was president for four years. So it's insane. It makes no sense. Well, and also he's campaigning on stopping all the wars. It's like his primary concern. Exactly. The war mongers like Liz Cheney hate him. Yeah. Because they love war. Well, they profit all over. They profit all for war. Yeah. Which is insane. Insane. Yeah. And that this is happening right in front of everybody's face.

Yeah. The war profiteers hate Trump. Yeah. Just fucked up. I mean, it's like, like we should be like, yeah, let's vote for the guy that the war profiteers hate. That sounds like a great idea. It is. The wildest thing when Dick Cheney endorsed Kamala and the left one crazy. Like, yay, Dick Cheney's on her side. Like, yeah. Like, I'm like, can we play all the videos where he said Dick Cheney was the devil? It's the craziest turn.

The craziest like 180 I've ever seen in my life because there's no reason for it. Yeah. Doesn't make any sense. Does make any sense. No logic to it at all. Just all of a sudden he's the devil. Yeah. Or he's not the devil. He's good. It's good that he's supporting Kamala. Even Dick Cheney, you know? I mean, war mongers want the Kamala puppet regime. And? Because they will get more war. It's so strange watching all these Hollywood celebrities like step up.

Yeah. I think it's going to get the more movies or something. That's what it is. If you know those people, so many of them are just like narcissists. Well, let me tell you how it actually works there. It is what happens is, you know, these celebrities, they get a call. Okay. They get a call from someone powerful in Hollywood. And that person says, you know, it's really really great if you're endorsed Kamala. You don't have to. It's up to you. But if you don't, they don't say it.

They don't say it. But if you don't, you're never going to get a call again. No more movies. No more concerts. But for the ass, they'll ask it. They're asking a really nice way. The last, it would be really nice if you're endorsed Kamala. This is important. And so they don't say that if you don't, they don't make the threat. They don't need to. But everyone knows what will happen if you don't.

Well, I think there's also, even if they don't think that something's going to happen to them, if they don't, there's this compelling feeling to support this cause that you think is going to get you a bunch of positive attention. And you're going to be on the right side of history and all these narratives that you say, especially from the left and Hollywood, like they're all in on whoever the fuck is the Democrat always 100%.

There's never a call from the Hollywood machine to support any Republicans. I've never seen it once. Never, never. So it's like you realize that and that whole business is based on getting picked. The whole business is not necessarily merit based. There's a lot of brilliant actors you never hear from. There's a lot of people who can do that, but they don't get chosen for roles.

And everybody knows this that you have to sort of socialize or you don't get chosen for roles because there's a lot of competition for the roles. That's why I say like when it's one powerful and in Hollywood who's able to make to choose these roles calls one of these celebrities, they know the deal. Yeah. There's no, no threat is necessary. Well, you could see it in real time like with Dennis Quaid when he made that Reagan movie and they wouldn't let him advertise on social media platforms.

Yeah, they were banning ads for it. Yeah. For what? Because it was an election year. Like what are you talking about? It's about a guy who's dead. Yes. Guy was president a long-ass time ago. Like what do you say? How does this have anything with the election year? Yeah. But it's the punishment. It's like you stepped outside the lawn. You supported the other guy. Yeah. The problem is you'll just never get a call again for a movie or a concert or whatever it is. Yeah, which is crazy.

That's the issue. I mean, we used to allow people to be a Republican and still be a movie star like Clint Eastwood. Reagan. Reagan. Yeah, but Clint Eastwood. Yeah. Like during the Obama administration, Clint Eastwood was like an outspoken Republican and yet was a giant movie star and people's like, oh, it's Clint. Yeah, it was allowed. You were allowed to have, there was a variety of different, Charlton Heston. Yeah. There was a variety of different opinions you were allowed to have.

But now you're not. Now it's just like, and once Trump got into office, he became this focal point where all logic was thrown out the window. And it was just Trump is bad. You have to attack Trump. Trump is right. Right wing is bad. Everyone right wing is bad. Christians bad. Yes. It's just strange. Yeah, exactly. So well, let's say it again, man. I think this was the last election if Trump doesn't win. This was the last election. I think you're right. Yeah. I think you're right.

I think people and a lot of people are waking up and realize that they've been lifelong Democrats. Guys like Bill Akman, guys like Chimoff, you know, Tulsi Gowerds, which over to the Republicans. Like there's a lot of people who their whole life, they've been left-winged. They realize like, I can't do this anymore. You're an ice to be Democrats. Yeah. Yeah. It's nuts. It's nuts, man. You know, I mean, I think the things we want are just pretty basic.

You know, it's like we want individual liberties and we want opportunity. We want America to remain the land of freedom and opportunity. So we maximize people's personal freedom. The government can't watch and kill you fucking pet. That's fucked up. And you know, and that you succeed as a function of your hard work and talent, not anything else, not race, religion, sex, doesn't matter, you know, the basic stuff. And then- What did you change the acronym DEI? What did you change it to? Oh, DEI.

What is it? Die. I mean, because we diversity, inclusion, and equity is DEI. But didn't you change it so much? But for some reason, education, excellence and... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we want America, opportunity, America being the land of opportunity means that we have an environment where you succeed as a function of your hard work and skill. Yeah. And that's radical. Radical. Radical. You're the best person to succeed. You're the best person to make you right wing now.

Yeah. You know, I'm like, okay, great. When we're right wing out of care. So, you know, and we're not a real country unless you have secure borders. You're just a fake country. So we need... And our cities are unsafe and dirty. Like, you know, my mom was telling me, my mom's like pretty red bull at this point. But you know what's going to red pill you really fast is having your friends get assaulted on the streets of New York. Yeah. And that happens to three of her friends this year.

You got assaulted on the streets of New York, just walking around. Yeah. And nobody got arrested. Nothing. Nothing happened. Well, the morale of the police is like depleted. Yeah. So, substantially. If, for sure, the morale of the police is depleted. And then also like, it's sort of like, like if you're a police officer and you're arresting someone who's violent, you're putting a life address, obviously, because like, you know, sometimes they'll try to kill you.

And then if you know that arresting that violent person, they will be immediately released by the DA, which happens in New York. Ellen Bragg doesn't prosecute people. Then why should a police officer put their life address to arrest someone when they know they will not be, they will just be let out immediately. Yeah. It's pointless. Yeah. It's like the friggin' Joker. It's like, you know, the dog might, like, the friggin' Joker is in charge.

Yeah. Like, the criminals run free and the citizens are arrested. That like, this is why I keep going back to this, this, this, like, still pretty sure about the friggin' school thing. It's like, you know, the, the, at gunpoint forced the guy to like stay outside his house while they got his pets and killed them. Meanwhile, you know, violent felons are running free and this is in New York states are running free. It's a, it's a Joker. Yeah, it's not.

The, the law-abiding citizens are, are, you know, arrested and, and the criminals are like free. It's just, it's just fucked up, guys. Just the fact that they have the resources to do that when they have all the crime that they have. You have the resources? Yeah. And the government resources to go kill someone's squirrel? Yeah. What, this whole idea of this government efficiency agency? The government's, yeah. I mean, quote everyone, but I'm- What do you want to call it? What do you call it?

I mean, I think the funniest name is, is DOG, the, the doge, the Department of government, Department of government efficiency. Yeah, I mean, the idea is, is pretty simple. Is that like we've got this, this suffocating, massive federal bureaucracy. And we need to, you know, it's, that is what, and the government's, the government's spending is like bankrupting the country. You know, our interest payments on the national debt now exceed the Defense Department budget.

So, which is, and the defense budget is like a trillion dollars a year. These payments on our, on the national debt are now higher than the defense department budget. And, and growing, like every month. So it's like it's not like, like basically the world of path to bankruptcy, the record is not a path to bankruptcy. So we have to cut a government spending or just going to go bankrupt, just like a person would, that overspends.

And then it, but it's even worse than that, like we're spending money on all these, like these government agencies. And I, like I asked, I actually asked the AI, like how many government agencies are there. And the government isn't even sure how many government agencies there are. Like, so it's like somewhere around 450, depending on what you call an agency. So there, so there, at the federal level. So that, that's almost twice as many agencies as, as years that America has existed.

So we're creating agencies that roughly, two agencies a year. Wow. Yes. So this is insane. I bet there's like, I, I wonder if there's even one person who could even name all 450 agencies at the federal level. There might be no one. But it's probably anyone, let's just say. A bit, a bit, most people couldn't even name night it, like 100, you know. So this is, this is crazy. So we've got the suffocating, this vast suffocating federal bureaucracy that just gets bigger every year.

And eventually you get to the point where everything is illegal. It can't get anything done. So. It can be done like with, obviously the president has a lot of power, but how much power? And what can be done in terms of like eliminating agencies, eliminating waste, eliminating. Yeah. Well, I mean, so like if Congress has created an agency, then often if you look at the lower, the lower is like pretty simple. Like the agency has like a very simple task.

But then that agency over time vastly increases its authority. It just starts doing things that were never authorized by Congress. That's happened with pretty much every agency. So so yeah, you'd have to, you'd have to still, you know, keep an agency. You'd have to match the law, but you can, you can curtail the agencies to be much smaller and say you got to stick to what Congress authorized instead of all this other stuff you're doing, which I think makes sense.

And so is the other stuff they're doing just essentially bureaucracy run a mock or they just create jobs and create things to do and create. A meaning for their existence? Yeah. It's like a tumor. It's just going to keep growing. Jesus Christ. And it's so, I mean, it's a space like Starship was sitting on the, on the pad, the rocket, we just giant rocket. We could build the rocket faster than they could process the paperwork to approve the launch. Two, so we're sitting there for two months.

But do you think that they're doing that on purpose to fuck with you? I can't, I mean, maybe a little bit, I mean, that would also not be cool. But another way to think about it is like the amount of paperwork is going to go roughly with the square of the number of agencies involved. So because they will have to meet with each other.

So like, let's say in the best case situation, if you've got like, if there's like, if you're dealing with one agency, that's one thing, but if you've got to deal with five agencies and the agencies will have to meet with each other, now you've got like, you know, 25 different, you know, meeting configurations that you have to take place. It's just everything just, you get just hardening of the arteries. You just can't make progress. Like, this is why we can't build high speed rail in America.

It's basically illegal. Right. This has been the argument has always been that we need regulation because we need to protect the environment. We need to protect people. We need to make sure the rule of law is followed. So we need a certain amount of regulation. But over regulation is a giant problem. That's a big issue in California. Yes. It's a huge issue anywhere where bureaucracy has run a mock. They make it very difficult to get anything done.

Yes. I mean, what happens is every year there are more rules and regulations created. And in the past, what is served as a cleansing function for rules and regulations is war? Because like, well, we're going to lose if we don't kind of clear the decks. But we haven't really had an existential threat of war in the US. We've had prosperity for a long time, which has resulted in a massive buildup of rules and regulations every year.

And to the point where, like, say, like everything's illegal, you know, and it's not like any one regulation is the problem. It's like, it's like, gulliver being tied down by a million little strings. It's not like any one string is the problem, but you've got a million of them. So we've got to clear the decks here. And I'm not saying we shouldn't have regulators. I'm just saying we've gone way too far. One should think of regulators like referees on a field, you know, a sports field.

You don't want to have no refs. You want to have some number of refs. You don't want to have way more refs than players. You don't want to be like, well, you know, the running back couldn't complete the fast because there were too many regulators in the way because the football field is full of regulators. You know, it's like you can't even play the game. That's the issue we've got right now. Well, that's a great analogy. You're going to imagine a football field that's filled with reference.

This is like the football field is full of threats. You can't even run past them. Yeah. I've seen criticism of this idea of you coming up with this department of like firing a bunch of people and what would happen and how would that work. But the criticism doesn't make any sense to me because if there is, if you measurably, if you can prove that there's a lot of wasted time and resources, which I think is pretty easy to do.

And if you could say that this is not the most efficient, like the most efficient businesses are generally private businesses or a company because they kind of have to be in order to stay profitable. The government doesn't have to be profitable. They don't have to be efficient. They don't have competition. So if you're making cars and your cars break down, they suck and someone makes cars and the cars are better, they're going to succeed. So this is the free market.

The government doesn't have this problem when they're in charge of certain things that could probably be better served by the public, by the private sector. Yeah. Absolutely. Well, I just think we've gotten, we've got far too many government agencies. The federal bureaucracy has gotten out of hand and we just need to pare it down to a sensible level. And if it turns out that like this some regulation or agency that was doing something useful, we can put it right back. No problem.

Like it's like, oh, that regulation was important. No problem. Put it right back. Right. It's not about actually no. But to be able to look at it logically and objectively. And you were also floating around the idea of offering a large severance to the people that you're going to have removed. Yeah. Like a couple of years or something like that, is that what you're saying? Yeah. I mean, I'm just, these are, again, just ideas. But I mean, the point is not that people suffer economic hardship.

The point is just that they're, it's better, they're more productive things they can do in the economy. And it's better if they did these other more productive things. And we didn't have this fast pedal bureaucracy. So like, so I was like, ah, you know, maybe like a couple of years of pay would be good. And then they could take a vacation. They could take another job and get double pay. I mean, it's like, it's not like a, it's not going to send create an economic crisis.

I think it's actually going to be really good, I think, because we can, you know, people can move to where they're making products and services that are more useful to their fellow human beings. The problem is if someone has like a 25, 30 year career of being institutionalized, here essentially like a part of the government system, you've sort of programmed your life in your career to be a part of this bureaucratic system.

And then you're like, nope, you have to go out and compete in the free market. You're like, oh. That's scary to people. But you have to be valuable. You have to actually be valuable. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, let's look at like, you know, whatever the government pension is stuff like, not going to be, you know, um, and tough. I think they'll be a good financial shape. How are you going to have the time to oversee all this shit? Well, I'm pretty good at, uh, you know, improving efficiency.

I mean, um, I would say so. Yeah. But still this, this seems like a giant undertaking. Yeah. I, I'll probably need to be of obscurity. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Um, but like I said, like no one's going to experience like, I think economic hardship that's, you know, they'll be fine. You know, and that they'll, they'll, people do find other roles.

I mean, you can look at sort of, um, you know, like when East Germany and West Germany got back together, you know, everyone was basically working for the government in East Germany. And, um, and it was really inefficient and that like their economic output was like, in East Germany, it was like a quarter of what it was in West Germany because everyone was working for the government. Right. The government's like fundamentally inefficient.

Um, the best examples probably north and south Korea, right? Yeah. I mean, like people are starving north Korea and South Korea is incredibly prosperous. Yeah. So, and it's the same people just different operating system. Right.

So, um, you know, it's just like you just want to move people from, you know, less productive things to more productive things, um, where they're made, you know, because you can also say like in the limit, like let's just say, let's consider the other direction where we moved a whole bunch of people that were in the private sector doing making goods and services and we moved them into the government as regulators. Now they stopped making those goods and services.

So, the stuff they were making is not all unavailable. Now, they're just being regulators. Like is that a good thing? That's not a good thing. Doesn't sound good. No, it's not good. Doesn't sound like there's a real market for it. Like you're creating jobs that don't necessarily need to be there. They're all these fake jobs. Basically. Um, and, um, that doesn't make sense. So I, I, I, we got to do this because we're, the, the, the country's going bankrupt. Like we, we don't take action.

We're, we're, uh, dollars can be worth nothing. And the, the interest payments, which are already 23% of, of, of, of 23% of all government income, income taxes, tariffs and everything is just going to pay interest right now. And that number is continually rising. So if we don't do something, the entire government budget will be paying interest. There won't be money for anything. No, it won't be money for social security work, money for Medicare, nothing. That's where we're headed.

That's what bankruptcy means. Yeah, that's such an insane concept. Yes. Um, let's say hello, wake up. Wait up. I just, somebody can tell me, can, can, can show me like pants out the math, show me how this works. I'd love to hear it. But, but I'm just like, listen, I'm looking at the numbers here and I'm like, we're going to do something. America's toast. We won't be money for anything. Trump likes to talk a lot about a lot is tariffs. Yeah. What do you think about tariffs?

I know that's very controversial to even people, economists, they disagree, some agree, something that's a good idea, something that's a terrible idea. What do you think? I think you need to be careful with tariffs. Like the, I mean, I do a lot of a lot with like supply chain issues, you know, like like the global automotive supply chain for Tesla, for example, is incredibly complex.

So when there are sudden changes in tariffs, then you're like, well, you, we've got a factory like somewhere else that's making a part that goes into the car. Now suddenly, if that part suddenly twice is expensive, it like misses everything up, you know. So, so you want to be, have a tariffs be predictable? So companies can adjust their supply chain. I mean, I think, I think company is more than happy to increase manufacturing in America. It's just that you can't do it instantly.

So if you put in, if you put, put up giant tariffs immediately and don't give companies a chance to, you know, build factories in America, like because you have to, you got to move atoms, like you've got a bull day building, you've got to install equipment, you've got to train people, like that doesn't happen instantly.

So you just got, you want to have a, for tariffs, you want to have a ramp so that people, companies can adjust and build the factories and train the people and get the equipment in place. Otherwise, you basically just shock the system and it breaks or bad things happen. So I'm against like sudden, sudden giant tariffs because they, it's an impossible response if you've got to, you know, move a thousand tons of equipment, you know.

You can just, in some cases, collectively millions of tons of equipment. You just can't do that overnight. It's literally impossible. So I think we want to be thoughtful about tariffs and, and give companies a ramp. I mean, I, I do generally agree that America should do more manufacturing. I'm a big manufacturing guy. I love manufacturing. So I'm, I've spent a lot of time in the factory.

We've talked openly about the difficulties of manufacturing and how complicated it is and how about most people aren't really aware of something that's as complex as like say billion Tesla. Yeah. Manufacturing is super hard and complicated. So, you know, like a lot of people just, they've never been in a factory or they don't know where how, how difficult it is to make things.

And they, you know, for a lot of people, I think just catch up from the store, you know, like the store, like, just has a, like, there's a, like people, like for a lot of people who've been in academia or, you know, for all these like socialist communist types, like, they've never actually made anything. So they, they're operating on the premise that there's this magical hornoplenty that just outputs goods and services.

And if someone's got more goods and services than someone else's, because they took more from this magical hornoplenty. And I'm like, guys, there's no magical hornoplenty. There's no cornucopia. It's actually goods and services come from people working collectively, doing a lot of hard work to produce the goods and services that you like. And that, you know, that you need. So, but we've become very accustomed to these things happening overseas.

I mean, America's still the second biggest manufacturer in the world. So it's not, I mean, we still make a lot of stuff, but we could make more. It probably should make more. I think we should value manufacturing a lot more in the United States than we currently do. Well, it would be very nice if we were completely self-sufficient, like Madison, like, there's a bunch of different things to get manufactured overseas that was a huge problem during COVID, because all the shipping was shut down.

Yeah. I mean, you don't want to say like, so there's a lot of merit to the economics of comparative advantage. So, if you're completely self-sufficient, what that means is that you make all the stuff yourself and even if some other country is really good at making something, you still make it yourself, which means you're going to have the inferior more costly product domestically. Right. Like Soviet Russia. Yeah. Like trade improves prosperity. This is important.

So you don't actually want to make everything yourself. And you can run this, like you can think of this thought experiment on a micro scale or a small scale and then expand that and say, where does the, at what point does the thought experiment no longer purge the valid? Now, let's consider the case of yours as an individual. Imagine you have to do everything yourself. You have to farm. You have to grow chickens. You've got to do food and eggs. You've got to build your own house.

You've got to do your own electrical repair. You're on plumbing. Everything yourself. Everything. Now, that would be impossible. Okay. Now, let's expand it to, okay, you've got this 10 people. Now, you're going to have some specialization of tasks. Okay. One maybe one person can be really good at construction. Another person can be good at farming. It's like, but it's still, you know, 10 people is not enough. Like, let's go to 100 people. Now, let's go to 100 million people.

And now, let's go to a billion people. And you still get the economics of specialization, like specialization of labor where people become expert at particular things. Still matters at a billion people or at 8 billion people, which is earth. So you still want, you do want specialization of labor. You do want countries to be really good at a particular thing and make that thing. Also it encourages innovation if you have competition.

If the Germans are making better cars, we have to make better cars. Right. To compete with them, which is like one of the things that happened during the 80s and 90s in America is making crap cars and Germans making better ones. Exactly. Yeah, the Japanese car. I mean, yeah, I mean, basically American car industry got really lazy in the 70s and 80s. And then the Japanese and German car companies came in and just cleaned the clock. And there was like an old joke that is kind of telling.

It's a very old joke where it's like, why did the Japanese car companies beat the American car companies? Well, it's like, well, in the Japanese car company, you had eight people rowing in one person's steering. And in the American car company, you had eight people steering in one person rowing. If this was a boat, so it measures a boat race. Yeah. Boat race. Japanese boat. You got eight people rowing in one person's steering.

And the American boat, you got one person rowing and eight people's steering. And when the American car company loses the race, they fire the roar. And it's like, OK, that was actually kind of true. Yeah, one of the things. One wants to be the boss and I don't want everyone to do the work, type of thing. Yeah. One thing that a lot of people are concerned about is the potential disruption that's going to come about with automation and AI.

A lot of these jobs, manufacturing jobs, teamsters, all that stuff, it's going to be eliminated. What do you mean you're at the forefront of this? So how do you see this playing out? And what do you think that can be done to mitigate a lot of the loss of purpose that a lot of people are going to feel, loss of income, obviously universal basic income is being floated about. But that seems to me to only be part of the problem. Another big part of the problem is people losing a sense of purpose.

Yeah, and now we're talking about something which is still pretty far in the future. How far do you think it is? Well, I mean, it's probably, I don't know, 15, 20 years of a thing. So we've got like immediate issues. We've got short-term issues that are, I don't want to three years. Game-to-me-shoes like five to 10 years, longer-to-me-shoes which are maybe 20 years. Longer-to-me I think there is this question if you have AI and robotics, how do you find meaning in life?

If the computer can do everything better than you can, then the robot can do everything better than you can. But we're sold. We've got a long way to go before that. And I do think it's like 80% likely to be a good outcome, like maybe 90. So I think everyone's going to have their own personal robot. And I think at a certain point, like, wouldn't you want to have your own personal C3PO R2D2? So it's going to be essentially just like everyone has their own phone.

Yeah, everyone will have their own robot buddy, like literally. Well, it'll be great if it protected you. Like if you walked out of the street of New York City, you have a Terminator with you? I don't know about the Terminator. Hopefully, we've got to avoid, we don't want this to be the plot of James Cameron. You know, we were more gene rotten, very than James Cameron movie situation.

But it would be fascinating to watch some rich person walk down the street of New York City flanked by two giant Tesla robots, Jack Tesla row is it? Like a robot company, but yeah, it just fully robots. So many fully robot there to protect you from a bad neighborhood. Yeah. That would be very interesting. I mean, you could potentially see that. Yeah. Restaurants would probably have no robot rules. You can't bring a robot. You can leave a robot.

Yeah, leave a robot outside, your robot standing by the table. Yeah, if you're just going to be wild. It's going to be wild. Yeah. It's going to be really unpredictable. Like I don't think, I mean, you probably have a pretty good sense of it, but I think most people don't understand the wave that's coming. Yeah. Kind of completely drown society and change it forever.

Yeah. I mean, we have, like I said, it's not like it's not going to happen overnight, but it's 20 years from now, I'm like, I think it's still like 20 years from now, I think there's going to be more humanoid robots than there are humans. Really? Yes. More humanized. Well, that's so crazy. So that's like more guns. We have more guns than people in America. We'll have more robots than people in America as well. Yes. You have a bunch of old robots that nobody wants anymore.

Yes. Early, early versions of something. In a historical timeline, 20 years in the past has not been that big of a deal. You know, I mean, this is a big deal, but you go from like 1900, 1920, not that big of a deal. 1920, 1940, kind of a big deal. Before 1960, things started getting weird. 60 to 80. Wow. That's a big difference. 80 to 2000, holy shit. Now you have the internet. 2000 to 2020. Whoa. This is nuts. You have propaganda, social media, YouTube streaming.

20 years from now, like what are we even talking about? It's going to be that much of a shift. Like, it's all accelerating. And we're in the middle of it. It's very difficult to sort of like feel it while it's happening. It kind of just feels like life. And you just get adapted to the changes. Yeah. I mean, people's phones at this point are super computer in the pocket. Like an article. Like answer any questions. People just take it for granted. Yeah. Just normal.

Yeah. They get mad if it doesn't work. Yeah. It's like Louis CK's joke about using your phone when you're on a plane. Yeah, I fucking piece of shit. You're in the sky, you're floating in the air. And that will work with Starlink, too. What's that? It will work with Starlink. Starlink. Yeah. Starlink connection. It'll be like being on the ground. Well, I was telling you how you Starlink when I was in Utah. I was in the mountains of Utah. There was no cell phone service anywhere near.

And we had full YouTube. We had text messages, FaceTime, everything. Phone calls. It was nuts. Yeah. And it was, this big, that's a car box. Yeah. It's so light when I brought it out there. That's it or this is it. Let's plug it in. And the guys I was in camp with were like, this is crazy. The whole camp was like sharing it. So like 10 people using the Wi-Fi signal. Right. It's nuts. And then, you know, that's the beginning. I mean, what you're at right now is like what version?

This is Starlink Mini, right? So this is like a very small version. How much smaller can it scale down from that? Well, there's a certain area that you need. Like the bigger the area, the more you can... Like your fan. Car ban with? Yeah. Because you're like trying to catch these photons essentially. So you can think of the area of the antenna is like the more area you have, the more photons you can catch. But we have a direct to cell capability as well. We've been launching that.

We'll turn on probably in a few months. That'll actually connect directly to a cell phone unmodified. But because the cell phone is a much worse antenna than a dedicated antenna, it'll be about 100 times less bandwidth. But still, you've able to do text messages, pictures, medium resolution videos, like anything. One of the cool things about the new phone, the new iPhone, the iPhone 16, I got it and I was in the mountains last month and I was text messaging with satellites. Eye messages.

And receiving them. Just text. Yeah, just text. But still pretty impressive. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what are we going to be looking at 100 years from now? I mean, when you... I heard you're from now. I hope solarizations around. Yeah, that'll be it when. Yeah. Yeah. What are the chances that we fucked this whole thing up? 50%. It's hard to say. I mean, I guess, I don't think solarization will be totally destroyed unless there's like some really massive global thermonuclear war.

But I mean, Stephen Hawking, he would say that there was like a one, at least a 1% chance of total annihilation every century, that was his rough estimate. But there's a much bigger chance of civilization being less capable than it is today. So you say, like, well, because you look at say, you know, these various civilizations throughout history, whether it's like ancient Sumerians or the Egyptians, the Romans, like that, you know, there's like a life cycle to civilization.

They reach to peak and then they start subsiding. So, I think a bigger question is like, will our technology level be better or worse than it is today in 100 years? I think it's probably going to be better. I think that any estimates are going to be so... There's so many dependencies, like an estimate, I'm not sure it has any meaning, because there's so many things that can happen in 100 years.

Well, the logical hope is always that people pay attention to history and they recognize the patterns and how civilizations have collapsed. And they recognize what's going wrong in the current society and say, we have to do our best to mitigate this. And we've seen this happen before. It's course correct and let's sort of manage what we've got here now and maintain what we've got here now because it's pretty extraordinary. This is what we're hoping for with this election.

This is what we're hoping for with the future. Is that people can see we are on a bad path and something can be done right now and it might be the only moment in history where this is possible because if they do, lock the country down and make it so that voting is kind of bullshit and you're only voting for primaries and the people that they put in the primaries, they're controlling that in the first place. You don't really have democracy anymore. You don't really have choice.

You don't really have freedom. That's right. Yeah, I think freedom is fundamentally at stake in the election tomorrow and we'll know I think we'll know by the end of day tomorrow. I don't think it's going to take. It's not going to be like days after the election. I think we'll know tomorrow. Are you optimistic? I'm currently optimistic, but the biggest factor here is that men need to vote. That is the biggest issue.

I don't know what the reason is, but if a man just vote at a much lower rate than a woman. I think it's like 9%. Right? Someone just told me that today. It's a big difference. I'm just saying it's a message to the man out there. Vote like a life depends on it because I think it does. Vote tomorrow like a life depends on it. Nothing is more important. I agree. Yeah. I mean here, I know you're busy as fuck, so I really appreciate your time.

Again, I thank you so much for buying Twitter because I really do believe that you've changed the course of history. I really do think you've created a pathway where people can actually express themselves and actually exchange information that really didn't exist before. And I think it was dangerous. It is dangerous. Hopefully I live long enough to see my kids grow up and people on Mars. That's the one I'm asking for here. I don't think that's too much to ask. Thank you very much.

Appreciate you. Thank you. All right. Thank you.