#2187 - Adam Sandler

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We were just talking about how zookeeper was 14 years ago. I shot how how I know I hate that. Fucking flies by me. It's terrible. It's terrible. That was a fun time though. That's great. Oh, yeah. It was so excited. That was very fun. That was very fun. I remember. I you wouldn't KJ would sussie. Yeah. That's how you guys that's all you know Kevin for 30 something years. Yeah. No one him forever. It's funny because even your standup, I watch your standup

the other night. You guys remind me of each other. There's something something you take your time on stage. You set it up. You say you shit and you live in it. It's not the same, but you guys you can tell you guys a buddy says something about it. That's that's you feel like everybody feels like I fucking I would hang out with that guy. It's cool. But did you and KJ start standup together? Well, we didn't start together exactly. I

started in Boston. He started in New York, but I met him when I was like just two years in about two years in where where you guys meet in New York at the strip or something. I think we met at Eastside Eastside. I don't think I did that's downtown. No Eastside comedy club was on Long Island. Oh, yeah. That I used to go that was in like Huntington. Yeah. Yeah. That was a great club. I was rich. You met a Vini's place. That's right. That's

a man of any way. Now that's a funny bastard. Yeah. He's a funny dude. I first one of the first comedy clubs I watched. I think I saw Carol E for at the Eastside comedy club. My sister lived in Huntington and she said, do you want to go see it? It wasn't my first, but it was like first couple. She said, do you want to see a comedian? There's a club around here. I said, yeah, yeah. And I sat in the back. I think I think I might have been like 15 or

something. Six things. Wow. And I saw Carol E for kill for like an hour, I think. How is exciting? That club was rocking. Yeah. It's gone though, right? Are there good clubs along the island now? Like what's that? Well, she's man. I don't know what's happening. There was always governors. That was great. Yes. I remember there was a few bars that were comedy clubs that I used to do there. I just don't remember the names right now.

But back in the day when I was young, I would go out to the island governors. I don't think I got on there much maybe a couple times when I was young. That was kind of a rock and club. Oh, yeah. Steve O. Wasn't Steve. Do you remember Steve O? Steve? No. He was in. I know Steve O. Jack Alstack. Jack Alstack. No, there was another guy. Steve O. It was a funny comic in that John Mulroney. You remember? Yeah. I remember. He was kind

of huge out there. He used to be a cop, right? I think so. Yeah. I think so. I remember Mulroney was by far him and Kevin Meaney with the two guys you didn't want to go after. I remember Mulroney would just destroy a room. He was so loose and would dominate the room and then they bring you up and you're like, oh, goodness gracious. I saw Kevin Meaney once at Catcherizing Star in Cambridge and it was insanity. He was at his peak, absolute

peak. I wasn't even thinking about doing comedy then. I was just a comedy fan and I went with a friend of mine from high school. I think we were both like 18 and we saw him just fucking destroy for an hour to the point where I got out of there. It was like I had an ab workout. I was in pain. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. He was so in the groove like everything he was funny. I man and I've never in my life killed this hard as Kevin Meaney. I mean,

there's nobody can kill that. I remember me and rock would be on the side at Catcherizing Star watching me now. Meaney do whatever he did and he would just like, yeah, I don't think I can get laughs that loud. It fucking blew out. He was on fire. It was on fire. But it was weird. It's like it didn't sustain like he later in his career for whatever reason, it just the whatever he had for those few years like in the 80s and the early 90s,

it didn't keep going for some strange reason. He kept doing stand up but something was missing. I don't know what it was. Did he he I know we killed on the tonight show with cars and I'm sure he's destroyed and did I I don't know what he wanted. I don't know what what the next thing he want. I just remember maybe didn't he do a TV show on the buck. Yeah, but that was not that good. Well, that was the John Candy movie that they turned to a television

show. Yeah. I think you know, there was always the thing that he was in the closet and then he came out of the closet and then it was kind of like right before he died. I tell you, I did I did a Boston club comedy connection when I was 17. I ate it. I came off state. I mean, I bombed him. My dad was there watching. It was a terrible feeling. And I'm even the MC who I don't remember when I came off stage after eating it. I'm walking.

You know that awful feeling of walking through the crowd and I'm looking at you like Jesus dude. And then the fucking MC stopped me. He goes, Adam, Adam, I turn around. You know, with your head spinning and shit. I go, you know, I look at the guy he goes, class clown and I go, I nod my head like, yes, he goes, maybe stick with that place. Pow. After the room. I go, okay. You know, I fucking walked off. And then I went into the dressing room

because I was wanted to hide and meany, meany. Funny kid. Bubba, I said some nice shit to me. I always remembered, oh, that can't be me fucking good dude. Man, he was lifting me up. Yeah. Some encouragement from a real comedian when you're just starting out can go a long way. Yeah, man. So in the beginning, it's so shaky. You don't know if it's going to work out. What am I doing? Oh, you feel you go home at night, head spinning. What am

I doing to myself? Why am I doing this? Yes. Yes. It's fucking insane. It truly is the sickest feeling. And then there's the days or nights you go on stage and your shit, you're not doing good to cry. You're eating it, but you have a confidence. And you're like, I'm pretty good at this. Even though I'm fucking eating it. Right. I feel pretty good right now. You feel like this is I'm going to figure this out. Right? Exactly. I figured out.

Yeah. Your movies kept my family sane through the beginning of the pandemic. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying live run. We're like, we watched it basically every, we don't want one. We didn't watch as little Nikki. We didn't for whatever reason. We never got to that one because we watched other ones like tour. I watched the zone. I might have seen the zone at 20 times. Wow. I fucking love that. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Such a funny movie. Why didn't you ever do a second one? That's fucking always talked about it. I mean, dude, the, the, it's a no brainer. It would be a lot of stuff. So right now, right? We'd have to wait a minute. Put that one on the shelf for a little bit. We had to put that one on the shelf a bunch of times when we were about to do it because shit would go on. We'd be like, oh, it's a tough time to do it right now. And then we just,

we got it. We did it. We, we, the intention was good to try to say, let's try to get some peace out there. But yeah. And then another part of it is I'll never fucking be in that shape again. I don't think I could ever do that. And then get a higher trainer. Get a higher. I know, but I can't stick with it, buddy. You are doing great. How the fuck are you eating so good and hitting it so hard? I'm like, you know what? You used to fucking

take working out so serious when I was in maybe up to like 25, 26. And now I can't fucking do it. I play who? Then I eat. And I every, even while every time I meet, and I'm going, what are you doing, man? You don't need to do this. I can't stop. Just got a little bit of thickness all over. Yeah. It's something that just, you have to stay on the horse. You can't back off at all. Especially as you get older, back off at all. You just start,

what is this? Just start feeling this thing. I know I have a new, I know, but you fucking walking now and I go, Jesus, that'd be fun to look like that. I always fucking wanted to be, I had, I had, I know shit. When I was 18 to 23, I hit it so hard. I never looked like you, I never was jacked. You look good during the zone. Pretty good. Really good.

Pretty fucking good for me. That was as good as I can get. And I naturally had a little something going on when I was real, like the, the college years, but that now it's fucking rough. My kids go, what? My daughter, one daughter, Sadie's always saying, Dad, get the train from the zone. Why would you ever give that up? Why would you want, why did you stop? I was like, ah, it's a lot of work. Yeah, but didn't you like the way you felt? Yeah.

Well, you should do that. Get that feeling back and stuff like that, but I just can't jump in there. Well, she sounds like a good coach. She's good. Yeah, she's, she's saying the right. She's saying the right stuff. She's right. Everything she says, I have a thought where I, I, I don't promise her. I go, let me think about that. That's a good idea. The whole thing is just not overdoing it in the beginning. Start and slow, where it's

maintainable. And then slowly build up. That's the key. So you give yourself new goals? Well, I never stopped, but I mean, when you get started, yeah. And the thing is like, people try to go too hard like, oh my god, I'm out of shape. I'm going to run fucking 10 miles and I'm going to live weights and then you're too tired. And then you're so fucking sore in the morning, like, I can't keep this up. The whole key is just give your body

enough where it's, it's pushing it, but it's not exhausted. You're not breaking your body down. You're just strengthening it slowly. You got to get sick the same way or you got to get better the same way you got sick, right? You got sick over time. Yeah. Over time eating food and it's fucking up. And then you got to get better that way. Over time slowly start to morph your body back into a good condition. That's good. Everybody

tries to go too hard. They try to go to create. They get excited, sustainable. You get excited to get it going again. And then and then you can enjoy it. You break yourself down. Yes. You hurt your knees or hurt your back. It's too much. Tara something. Yeah. The key is just not too much. Just do enough and just cut back on you say I'm going to only have two cheat days a week, two days a week, whatever the fuck I want. Five days a week

I'm going to eat clean and then break it down to six days a week. I'm going to eat clean it one day a week. I'm going to fuck off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you can go one day a week just fucking off, you can get a lot done. That's amazing. Yeah. The fuck off day is from start to finish. You can do whatever you want. Fuck you want one day. That's good. And then the other days the good days what do you like do you eat a breakfast and all that?

Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I skip breakfast lately. That's my new move the last year. Is like intermittent fasting. I guess so, but I'm supposed to fucking you know lock in on eight hours or six hours. And I always say I do one to nine say then around fucking ten. I go let me have some grapes. And then I go I think I'm not supposed to have grapes. And then it opens up to some other shit grapes aren't the problem. The grapes lead to

some bad grapes lead to waffles. Fucking skinny cow. That's new thing skinny cow ice cream sandwiches in the house started a little problem for me. What are skinny cow? They're supposed to be a little better for you because the calories aren't awful. I think it's like one thirty. So I go one thirty usually they're fucking like three thirty. So then I eat two of them. I go it's still under that three thirty. Then I go if I have a third it's still

under threes. So I eat a third and then I fucking go I gotta stop. Yeah. If you really want to be serious about taking just hire somebody you got money. I got the best guy the guy who did me for the zohan and he's I love him. It's just I see him and I love him so much that I go let's keep this a friendship. I don't want to I play so much basketball though.

That keeps me okay. It doesn't want me to take my I don't want to take my shirt off but I don't often play maybe four or five a week where I get out there and run for great. That's pretty good. That's very good. That's very that's a key if you could do something that you really enjoyed doing. Yes. You know if you something that keeps you active that you enjoy that that makes it so much easier because you're playing a game. So you're getting

fit for sure. In the middle of a game. Exciting. You don't hate that at all. That is the best I think that's the only thing I got that you you you fight that that's fucking fun right. Marshall's a fun. Yeah. Marshall. I was a fun KJ always fought I never even a one time KJ we left a hotel. I think he just came from fighting with one of the guys who would teach him some shit and he was so riled up from it put me in some fucking crazy hold

at no way we walk we were going to dinner. I was and he came at me. I was like holy shit. And he fucking grabbed me twist me around had me in some weird hold. I said okay he's just letting me know he can destroy me but but I remember just going yeah that's that's fucking something I should get into man but I just can't I'm not flexible at all you you're very flexible. Yeah that helps. Well I'd start stretching before I hit puberty. That's the big

thing or during puberty really. So it's like while your body's thickening you know you're just stretching it. Yeah buddy. It's a giant difference. I never I by the way KJ would be in flexible is very odd. He can put the hand. Yeah he's fucking weirdly. He's a very athletic guy. He just eats like a fucking army. He does get excited. I sometimes won't be a young guy. I say tell me you're McDonald's order and he'd be like okay three quarter

pounds. Three big man. Whatever the fuck it goes hard. His McDonald order is insane. Kevin go hard. But like also when he was on the podcast tell me fasted once for how many days I fast for 60 something. Yeah something insane amount of days like 40 days or something. Yeah yeah yeah. Manny something insane. And then I think he ate a sandwich in a real year. You're so much probably what the fuck is going on. Oh my god. He's a mad man with

that fast. Yeah well he's a he's an intense dude. You know he's just intense with eating too. Yeah yeah. But if you ever watch him hit the mits everyone watching him pass. He's can fucking struck. Yes I know. It's kind of shocking. The people that don't know him. Yes. You see him crack mits and you like Jesus Christ. Holy shit he is. Yeah. He's fucking legit and he can roll around good too. Yeah. When he was getting ready for here comes the boom.

Yeah like you know when he was training with Mark Deligratto. Yeah yeah. Damn dude. He was cracking those. I know. I know. He did let me know and that one thing he did to me. You know who did that to me too? Farley. Farley we were in the hallway on Saturday Night Live. Adam nowhere. Oh no we were at a fucking hotel and he came at me real fast. Put me

grab me. Put me in some shit pulled hard. I felt every part of my body crack and then I then in Farley laughed and just like with Kevin they kind of looked at you like I could fuck you up if I wanted to. Farley was a big dude too. He was a big boy. He was like maybe five eight. Five's. No he was like five eight wide too. He was wide. Yeah. Fucking athlete though. Move nice. Well when he moved around on stage. Yes. You know when he moved around

in SNL he was fucking that was part of the thing was he was so explosive. Oh yeah. Like part of the funny in him was this fucking insane. Yes. Yeah. But he had this explosion inside of him. Absolutely. They could get out. I only met him once. You did meet him. Yeah. I met him on a set of news radio and he was in the middle the throws of addiction. So he was he was gray like wet cardboard. It was weird. He was weird being around him.

He just looks sweaty. He's like hey how you doing? He was like what's up? Was he there to see Phil? He was there to see Andy Dick. Andy Dick were hanging out. I think they were both off the rails. They were having fun. They're having a good time. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking that sucks. I hate it. Well he was yeah. That's horrible. That was a good time of life though. That news radio shit. Oh yeah. That was a lot of fun. It's spayed and and and

Phil. No. Spade wasn't on that. Spade was on that other show. Just shoot me. He was on just shoot but I thought he did a couple of. He did. Yeah. He definitely did. But you know a lot of people did. You know. Yeah. A lot of people did. Was that your first big thing? Yeah. That was the first big thing. I did a small sitcom that nobody watched before that called Hardball. Hardball. What was it about? Who's a baseball show on Fox? Yeah. I

think I heard about it. Like five or six episodes. What were you on that? I was a baseball player. Oh that you played baseball? I did in high school. Oh yeah. Little bit. So I started doing martial arts. Right. Right. All sports. Got you. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool man. I won't be telling you my martial arts. It's not that big of a deal but I grew up in Manchester New Hampshire and a lot of guys were tough you know fought and shit. Fights would happen.

And then I had the idea I drove by downtown. I saw this guy. I can't remember his name. Mixed something and I fucking saw kickbox and I was like let me take kickbox just in case I can fuck somebody up because I'd be fun to have that secret weapon of kickbox and then you know all of a sudden be able to kick someone in the face. That'd be great. And so I talked my buddy into it. Or maybe he talked me into it but I think anyways we both go and

fucking like 15 guys in there from school. All already doing it already advanced and I was like all this did was make me realize these guys can kick the shit out of me. I thought guys I could take I was going oh fuck that guy can crush me too. I had no idea. But I would I've never flexible. So I just I think I quit after like four or five sessions. Flexibility is something

that everybody can gain. It's just you just have to go through the process. Flexibility is not something like you know there's like certain amount of explosiveness and athleticism that some people just don't possess. It took a long time to get there but flexibility is something that you just have to work at. I've seen very inflexible people become flexible. Yeah yeah. What just by doing it every day. Doing it every day and just sticking to a routine. You just

got to force yourself past the pain. I'm just nervous. My hamstrings are going to pop this whole fucking tight. You know what she's got you ever see one of those things where you it's like a strap and you put your foot into it. Yeah. Pull back. Yeah. These are great. Yeah I know. I know. I know. I'm just taking yoga class. Yeah I know. I know. Go to hot yoga. That's a cheat code. No that's a good one. It gets real hot in there. Yeah. Get a lot looser. Yeah that's good.

That's good. My wife's good at that shit. My daughters do it. I just fucking it hurts my little back and my hamstrings so much that I end up just going all right I get up and do a fake water break and just stare at them. So I was working on this special. I saw you in Vegas. I saw you started. It was very funny. Thank you. Thank you. Very funny. I really enjoyed it. I appreciate it. Man I had a great time making this special. I had a great I have a great time

on the road. I can't believe it. You know I fucking quit doing stand-up for you know like 20 years or something. What made you want to get back? I think I was doing grown-ups and rock and spade and Schneider and KJ were always talking about next weekend I'm going in Niagara Falls and I'd be like these guys are all fucking having fun on the road and I think

Appetown was doing Carnegie Hall. He was hosting something and he said you want to do some stand-up again and I just go yeah yeah let me do that and I did it just to make sure that I fucking put together 15 minutes or something. That got me back into it. And did you just piece it together by doing small sets or did you? How did you write it out? I was I think maybe I did a couple improvs or something that maybe maybe I went to the improv a couple times but mostly

from doing Letterman. I used to do Letterman and do two segments so I fucking sit down with my buddies right jokes and just go out there with jokes and kind of trusted that yeah that's a good joke and I think I started doing that with stand-up too. Just going I have just pretty good let me just do it. And then like when did you start booking gigs? Same shit I call the guy is this great guy

whose daughter was going to school with mine. He would talk about booking acts and shit I said I was thinking to do it stand-up again you want to book me some shows and then he just booked like a ten city tour for me and I said all right I better fucking put an hour together. Wow so how would you what how'd you put the hour together did you go to the improv? Did you go to the store? Where'd you

go? A couple times at the store improv I would drive out of town you know the valley maybe it like the ha ha that kind of shit yeah yeah anybody floppers exactly floppers floppers good spots good spot I shit out yeah yeah I just did a bunch of maybe I went down at a comedy magic club

is that still I did for sure that's a great yes exactly except I remember growing up I would always see Leno and Joe what is it Joe not not is it broken what was what was Jimmy broken Jimmy broke him yeah the booker yeah but he did stand up and they were so clean and they would

fucking annihilate and I always felt self-conscious in that place for how filthy I was I like these people don't want to see this well the comedy magic club is like the cleanest club in the country that right right yeah yeah I'm Jimmy Miller used to book it did he I think so okay

yeah that battal you still always go there yeah it's a that's a great little club that's a good club so I forced myself to get a good out now I got I mean when I when I was on the road the last tour I was I have so many you know I have so much shit that steps on other shit so I can't really

do it all right because if I already said this so that this joke doesn't make any sense now so but I was fucking doing two hour shows and it wasn't that big of a deal wow can you believe that yeah because I remember struggling to do an hour my whole stand-up life I'd be like my god how

fucking the crowd so bored with me now I can't come up with new moves you know but now got enough shit keep him rocking so how long have you been steady doing stand-up again now I think like seven years wow yeah must feel good though right nice to get back into like a real flow a real

headliner slow again yeah yeah I missed this I did miss it I didn't even know I missed it the most fun absolutely you you you fucking with loose that was you set yourself up to do a live fucking special I don't think I could handle that man my head be spinning way too much man but you

had to over prepare you yeah yeah you but you you didn't have you didn't have any pauses you just boom boom boom boom boom you did how long were you doing that set well I did well you know because I have my own club that helps a lot right so it was doing two shows

a night Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday so I was doing six hours of stand-up a week which is a lot yeah yeah yeah and then I was doing podcasts and all the other UFC stuff that I do so a lot of work right that got to be too much so then I knocked it down to three sets a week three headliner sets

a week and then I would do a bunch of short sets you know yeah bottom that bottom in the barrel show that I told you that your friend Brian Simpson host that shows the best yeah it's it's like a premise factory yeah because you have this whiskey barrel on stage it's filled with notes from the crowd

yeah it's all just different ridiculous ideas for premises and you reach your hand in you pull one out and it says you know frogs or gay right whatever nice and you just start ranting right right and you try to come up with bits and you know every now and then one you know you get one

or two every set that you write it down like this could be something that's amazing yeah and a couple of them made it onto the special that's incredible because it's like they it's a premise factory absolutely so I had I had a lot of it's I was getting ready to do a special in I was going

to do one in August of 2020 but then you know obviously in March everything shut down and I didn't they stand up for eight months and it was just and and then I thought about I was like you know and I just feel like just working on my material now I just feel like just working on stand up

and not not even thinking about the special yeah yeah that's a great feeling but it's just I just wanted I was just enjoying working at the club owning the and then there's so many good guys the club it was just such a fucking hot spot right there's so many people they're shane killis and mark

Norman and Ari Shafir and fucking Brian Simpson and Tony Hinchcliffe it's just like every night was just murderers row right yeah and we were all just cooking together that's big and then when Netflix said they want to do a lot of special with me at first I was like fuck that I don't want to

do that and I said no I told my manager was like no I called her in the phone I was like what I don't want to do that yeah and then I was driving home like why he's scared to do that you fucking pussy and I was like as I was driving home I was like think it and then I when I got home I called

the bag I don't say no yet like a lot yeah yeah I've had that was feelings yeah and then the next day I said all right I'm gonna do it and she's like you sure I go yeah yeah yeah I'm gonna do it because I'm scared of it that's a ballsy man I was fucking terrified of course I'm scared thinking

about doing I would never fucking do it but but you killed it you killed it you will lose you rolling you crushed but I didn't that set in order for three weeks straight right so I had it locked in for three weeks I didn't do any no deep which I always fuck around yeah there's there's

no fucking around yeah no deep that's right that's right weeks you were you were steady exactly I also wrote all the bits out by hand I wrote them all out even the ones already knew I wrote them all out I wrote all the transitions out I listened to records I watched videos yeah I beat myself into

the ground I overprepared right right right right so the one I got up there there was no what is next what is next there was no thought about you didn't have a beat sheet somewhere just in case you got lost no no no that's no fucking balls I would never be able to do that but I want to not

like a regular show if I had a regular show I wouldn't have a cheat sheet well I fucking I never did when I was young but now I need fucking a word I need to look somewhere I see the word what do you like put like index cards on the on the stage on a monitor oh okay you know it says like you know

just just one word right yeah yeah because my head goes to space I get spacey as I got older when I was young I was prepared and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah yeah I did my shit and I think it helps me kind of relax a little bit just know when that if I'm sure look down and see a word

and go yeah yeah yeah do that next Bill Maher brings like one of them conductors fucking things on stage uh huh where you know like they have like the news the news the music rather yeah yeah yeah he has that and he just has his ideas written out on that it's good you just look down at it

I get addicted to that a little too much sometimes I cut in Largo in LA I go up there the flanney runs that place and he lets me go on and and and try shit out and I have a music stand and I fucking I'll be at work all day working on movies and then like 10 minutes left to go I go oh yeah yeah

let me fucking I got a couple guys in the office who helped write jokes with me and I go let me try this this isn't this and I just put the sheet down go on stage try shit out try new shit out nothing better than a new joke yeah it's very exciting that's the best if it's working usually

does work too well you enthusiastic about it and yeah if you really have thought about it and prepared for it it's like a new thing for you so it's like this is exciting new toy oh yeah yes you can't wait to get to that or open with it or whatever yeah when you do movies do you just come

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could be greater guy who a grown up who does elementary school again and that's a great idea of being I get to be goofy get to bully these little kids then all of a sudden connect with these kids and have fun growing up again so and my part of my head was like well Rodney did back to school

already so everyone's gonna say I just ripped off back to school Rodney went back to college how the fuck do we kind of do it a step away from that and I call my buddy hurl a he who I went to college with and he writes all the movies with me or he's he's just a he's just a great funny

man and I've written almost everything with him and if he goes oh that's good then we usually go from there and we try to fill it out after that same thing with happy Gilmore wedding singer Bobby Boucher all that shit we were just like came up with a couple of lines of what we thought

as a interesting idea and then see if we can fill it out it's so funny because your films get loved by the public and hated by critics it's so hilarious yeah like you are the elite like whatever the rotten tomatoes critics glorious for your films means zero it means nothing right

only the audience is what counts that's the all we thought about yeah yeah because your films are all so fun and so silly and so in my opinion so underappreciated thank you because like this is one of the things I thought about during covid like we watched it every night we watched like every

film that you made while everything was locked out amazing I love that thank you thank you yeah am I fucking I don't know man we locked out where we we we worked our asses off like you're working your ass off now like this is this is took it very serious but you caught like a silly groove

yes I don't think anybody else has that silly groove like you do I you caught that groove with so many movies man yeah yeah yeah we did I mean when I will first started Jim Carrey was crushing stiller Mike Myers a lot a lot of goofy movies were getting made and I certainly fucking love

doing them and I love being on set making those kind of movies I love fucking editing that shit making I think about kids laughing I always love that thinking of college kids throwing it you know throwing a tape and sitting down watching together we that that was on our mind when we

did it when you first started out did you want to be a comic did you want to be a stand-up comic or did you always think that you wanted to do film I think I wanted to get into the movies I was fucking nuts cocky as shit in my own weird way I think a big thing that happened to me was I told

my friends in high school I was gonna be fucking big and I didn't so you had to I had to do it I told the boys I was like I'm gonna be fucking great and then when I would check in with them I remember being on payphones calling after even eating it as catcherizing star I call them a

fucking good tonight probably yeah I go yeah I said what'd you say I said this joke it fucking killed meanwhile I fucking ate it every time so you're faking it I mean I said but I I dug a hole for myself I'm doing great Robin Williams said I was fantastic Rob Williams

I remember one night saw me eat it now I was just like oh man I ate it in front of Rob Williams but I changed the story of like he liked that shit and there's something that could be very valuable about being delusional and being very delusional so stupid man I did this

thing once you know Owen Smith hilarious hilarious comedian LA he had this he's one of the best comics alive but he spends a lot of time writing and doing sure I know fortunately which I think he should be headline and arenas he was just at my club a few months back I said yeah

fuck he's a monster yeah point is Owen had this show that he was doing for a while where well you'd find your oldest notebooks uh-huh and uh sit down with him and go over your oldest jokes and it was so bad there was so it was like a 1991 joke book yeah yeah yeah yeah

keep them all yeah and I was going through we were reading and I was like it's so bad I had him like built in Heckler lines that I wrote that were terrible yeah this guy was saying this to me and that's like oh oh that's so funny if I had to go back there and like give myself advice I

would say you got to quit you're terrible oh my god don't do this what do you do yeah don't do sound a trojure you're not gonna make it you know it's the same thing yeah no way but I fucking thought I was fucking phenomenal but I would look that at the crowd not laughing going these

fucking are these guys fucking nuts they don't see how great this shit is but when I it's almost like I was with my fucking giant afro and my father would be at the table he'd be like you need a haircut I'd be like what are you talking about man he'd be like you think you look good yeah I

look great he'd be like you don't just so you know you don't look right yeah you're what are you are so off on that it's funny delusional thinking can sometimes carry you to the like once you develop some skill that delusional is like a little guardian yeah I like he's you protected why

you actually develop talent and that goes away because I I'm more nervous now I had that fucking fear as a comedian my head would spin when when I Colin Quinn he had a club the paper moon in the in the city was the paper moon around when you when you growing up it was like

at the Boston Comedy Club like a small place like that I think that that that became paper moon became the Boston oh the same club yes I think it was downstairs that one shit so fucking Colin like me he used to get me on stage I was going to college around there and I all day long would be

practicing on the elevator in my dorm I'd be going blah blah blah blah saying the shit right when Colin would bring me up my fucking head would spin I'd forget where I was not making a sense I would say two jokes and then I'd be like oh my god I don't I don't know what's coming next and

I had that going for a while but I still would go home at night and go fucking I'm gonna be so fucking good at this I don't know what it was psycho psycho it's youthful delusion yeah and it's also your central lobe is not fully formed yet you don't even understand the world you're just

a little meat puppet my god yeah but that's how you make it that's how you make it in kind of everything like you you're delusional you know yes yes if you really believe in yourself that counts for a lot up to a point because there's people that still believe in themselves they'd

be doing open mics for 20 years right nobody's stepped in to say hey this is never right right right gonna have right yeah you have to have a spark yeah there's got to be a little something in there and then you could build that little something into something special that's right that's

right same thing in sports guys oh yeah keep going and keep trying out and keep doing something mm-hmm but some some people break through it's yeah it's interesting man I definitely had an amazing time as a young youngster I had a couple of people that I locked in with we were buddies

we all had that same thing of like I'm good I'm good even though it wasn't that good yet yeah yeah I came up with Greg Fitzimmons Greg and I were both like confused I'm wondering if we're ever gonna make it and just you know we do a lot of road gigs together yeah we were hoping

but it's the the whole idea was only just to like one day you'd be a professional that was the goal not really have any kind of a career career but just like one day to make a living telling jokes that was the dream yeah yeah yeah you couldn't even imagine like almost I would see guys that were

actual pros when I had a bunch of like day jobs doing construction oh you did and limos oh yeah yeah everything oh gotcha and so then I would do these nighttime gigs and I'd meet the real pros the guys who just made a living doing comedy I'm like what must that be like yes they

saunter in it nine oh my god yeah they've been playing golf all day laughing the Kevin Nox's and all those guys yeah yeah and I would just like they were like heroes like you're yeah that you actually made it if you're not outside of the system completely all you do is

tell jokes and people love you and they come to see you and the same jokes a lot of the guys they were just like that's my act I ain't fucking Boston yeah they never did television so those guys right right and people wanted to go see those same jokes and that's crazy yes yes yes like Steve

Swini James Swini when he was in the car absolute best biggest destruction too yeah oh my god Steve Swini in his prime would light up a room yeah and with Boston accent and Boston material you couldn't follow no no no he was a monster I think he went on the very first night I went on that stitches you do sure that was the first place my brother brought me to stitches he was going to be you he got me one of those five minute open mics that was the first place I ever did too stitches

yeah wow yeah yeah how'd you do yeah I got a couple of chuckles did it it is like enough to where I was I will maybe 21 21 yeah maybe maybe something and the second time I got some laughs that's second time as like less less nervous wow and like I listened to my required a little taper quarter that

I brought with me I recorded it oh man yeah so that humiliation of the silence on the record terrible but it also made me realize like what was wrong like you know just because I was studying it like kind of the way I study martial arts like if you you would watch films of fights

and then I would let you know go oh there was a little bit of a timing problem there and this I could have done this I could have done that and so with my second time I did stand up I had the humiliation of listening to the first cassette so I listen now I was like let me tighten this

up and maybe this could be a little better oh my god tightening right a little more there but I got some laughs a second time which was like crazy I was like wow I might be able to do this shit man both that stitches yeah and then I think I bombed the third time and that was the first

real bomb and also yes but every time I bombed I feel like it taught me something and you know it get better fucking I ate it last year last summer I went up to the comic strip and fucking ate it for 10 straight minutes oh shit I forgot about that I'm about to punch in the face that is a rupee I ran into the airport and you tell me you just did some fucking horrific corporate event I ate it there too oh that was I mean if I listen to the tape I'd say you're okay but oh it's humiliating yeah

you had just gotten done with it what I ran into it so shell shot I remember seeing you in your life yeah yeah yeah I had that fucking glaze look those corporate gigs are so Ron White just ate it at one recently he was out of the wild of fuck I agree to do that I know

I just came I said no and they said more and I said no and then they came up with the number I was like all right holy shit buddy yeah same fucking story for me those are deaf I don't think I those things are deaf because the people that are there yeah they're working with all these

people so they're all like kind of tight yeah they got shit going on yeah and they're not really thinking about the comedy show they're thinking about this is like a social environment with all the people they're they're working their way up the corporate ladder and then they're constantly

not all there and they're also they can't laugh at anything inappropriate yeah I saw a mic over they're laughing at all those sexless jokes Mike's a real piece of shit yeah true man that's good I swear to God I felt bad for them I said Jesus they paid me so much I fucking feel terrified

and killed for my butt yeah it happened yeah Hinchcliffe just did one recently too said the same thing I'm like that's why I don't do those they it's not do comedy where people come to see comedy and that's it don't get hired for a birthday party get the fuck out of here with it it was the only

fucking reason I did it was Paul McCartney did it the year before so they go well they don't do this much I went Paul McCartney well fuck I'm doing that shit yeah but Paul McCartney can just play his songs I know man you know like his songs are great their plastic he's not gonna miss

he's gonna play the and if they don't respond that's on them yeah it's like you know you're fucking nuts you just did a band on the run fuck is wrong with you know man that's good yeah you know like musicians they can always just get into their song oh fuck they don't need your

surprise they don't need nothing they don't look around they don't need you we're fucking looking out at every that fucking dude's not loving it got them it I don't need you rely so much on other people's response but the moments I don't those are the ones I was saying to you Joe and I've

I've eaten it before but still felt I did good because I fucking remained kind of confident right and and believe in him my shit still but the ones where I look out I see them hating me and I go yeah why am I here man this is that's a bad feeling it's a terrible feeling I say

bombing on stage like sucking a thousand dicks in front of your mother yeah it's probably worse than that because somewhere out there there's probably a guy who wouldn't mind sucking a thousand dicks in front of his mom yeah you know he'd be like look at me mom you you made me

I 99 let's go my mother would 100% at the end say you could have done it better yeah you could have sucked them hard why did you stop on that one man he wanted to explode in your face and you you stopped I feel bad you should call him and tell him you suck his dick but I yeah I'm with you

buddy yeah stand up stand up it's the best it's a crazy thing and then no one could teach you how to do it either you have to figure it out yourself because your way of doing is different than my way of doing it my way is different than Kevin's way yeah Kevin's way is different than fucking

do sign felled's way everybody's got a different way of doing it absolutely and nobody could teach you how to do it you can learn some things yes from watching other people you can learn some things oh man yeah but haven't won somebody fucking great watches you and says hey you know what you could

say here and gives you a great line you're like oh my god yeah no that's huge that's what I feel and you just made my okay thing into a fucking one I'm excited to do oh yeah yeah yeah yeah this has been a couple of bits that I've had that it got a tag from a friend and it's just like pops it

up oh it you're like how do they have a dude without that fucking yeah sometimes like a fresh eye you know that's one of the things that I always admired about Chris Rock used to do it because Chris Rock would go on stage he'd work his stuff out and then he'd have a bunch of guys that you'd hire

to sit in the back of the room and kind of workshop with him I got I do I do similar stuff very smart these young guys who are fucking way funnier at writing then mean only cuz I'm fucking tired I'm tired I walk into the office and I'm like I thought it was funny thing last night maybe

something there I'll say it to him and they'll go oh yeah and I'm fucking right something interesting and we come up with something together eventually well you used to collaborating when you do films right yes yes I always do that always got a bunch of guys that that helped me out throughout the

home movie yeah that's such a good process yes because you know one mind is great but a bunch of minds together in different perspectives people are gonna see things from an angle that you're not gonna see yes that's exciting same shit same somebody comes up with a great thing to do in a scene

or a line or maybe you can be doing this at the same time and actually whatever the fuck it is I mean me and her like when we write these things we we we think a lot what it's gonna look like what what what's going on and he's seen what the jokes are that kind of shit but on the day you

definitely having a couple of buddies around making it better to the way to go well you always have a very tight ship too like doing zookeeper with you and like and talking with Kevin like you work with the same people pretty much every film yeah which is really huge yeah that's good

because it's always you have a very family environment like always did everybody's fun they're all everybody likes working together yeah no one's an asshole yeah it's an easy it's an easy gig in that sense that like you know you're gonna come to work with people yeah yeah yeah everybody's

having fun Kevin's Kevin got that going you got that going yeah you have to have that that's gigantic you got you got like a lot of great stand-up friends all right yeah when you do the road you you just bring your guys with you when you guys like how many of you go up on stage when you

take gigs on the road if I do a gig I bring usually one guy who's a beginner and then two guys who are headliners and how much time does everybody do it depends like this when I do the live special I brought this kid Ari Maddie who's hilarious yeah Ari did 10 minutes wait did 15 minutes

the first night but on the live 90 did 10 minutes so 10 minutes to warm the crowd up and then he brings on Ron white Ron white murdered for 15 and then he brings on Tony Tony murders for 15 wow and then I go on after that you're fucking tough to do that to yourself put on big heavy hitters

because that can that can get you in a whole sometimes too yeah but if you long as you're having fun it doesn't no audiences have it a good time yes though my philosophy is I don't want bad comedians going in front of me I want people to kill yes so that when I go on stage everyone's

having a great time yeah they don't ever feel like oh they made other one guy for 20 minutes oh my god one was he gonna get off stage no because there's some comedians alike to do that they like to bring in terrible acts so they look like a hero no that's bad that's bad that's bad for

the audience at bad for your own brain you just fucking just you're getting lazy doing you getting lazy it's it's a soft way to approach it so like when I do shows at the club sometimes I'm going on stage an hour and a half into the show and it's like Brian Simpson Shane Gill is

smart Norman it's like killer after killer going up yeah and then I'm going up late so you got it's like running with weights on like you you gotta go like come out of the gate hot you know I do it I remember when I first came back to stand up I was bringing all my buddies with me and they

were killing soul it was good crowds so everybody would stay up you know everyone's like I know I was gonna do 15 let me do 25 and so by the time I got up there as following like six or seven guys murdering and it was fucking two hours in and then I was supposed to do an hour and a half

of that I'd be like shit I gotta figure this out man I'm not I mean I'll get that's too much that's too much you wear the audience out yeah yeah yeah I feel like when a show gets over two hours two and a half hours is like I don't want to see it three hour movie no no yeah if if I'm going to watch

the three hour movie I'm gonna be at home okay where I can pause yeah if I take a leak go have some popcorn yeah I want to like for three hours sitting in some auditorium somewhere watching the show that's a lot it's gotta be a banger of a show oh man so engaged we walk out you're like wow

have it that feeling when you know holy shit that this arena I'm losing them for about five minutes let me fucking get them get them back have it that go when you see people who started the show off we're like yeah and then they're kind of like tuned out going what is happening right now yeah

yeah why you don't have a certain amount of attention span yeah yeah you know that's why I had my bands that still like I saw guns and roses and grease yeah and they do three hours new shit or just all the classics yeah all the classics you know welcome to the jungle sweet child of mine

can't fuck with that yeah fucking go hard for three hours those guys are a hundred years old they're still killing and singing three hours yeah yeah same with the stones I saw the stones a couple years ago at Koda the circuit of the Americas in town and it was insane yeah Mick Jaggers a thousand

years old yeah and he's still fucking yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah still fucking dancing and all that energy yes it's funny they do like stones do two a week or so yeah that's a really funny shit because when we go on the road it's like five or six that's

the way to do it though when you're 80 yes yes you know you need recovery yeah yeah yeah and also Mick Jagger works out every single day he has two trailers wow filled with Jim equipment wow yeah yeah two of the trailers when they travel with the stones it's just Mick Jagger's Jim equipment what a

fucking stud light little body that guy looks like he weighs 120 is like 120 he's ripped still 80 years old he got a six pack got the vision the arms yeah yeah fucking ready to go and still has his pipes still can sing yeah yeah and Keith Richard could still play it was incredible yeah watching them

live was I couldn't believe they were there yeah it was one of those things where like I was almost like I was I felt like I was on drugs I was like am I really seeing the rolling stones are they're actually there like I could throw a rock and I could hit Mick Jagger with a rock he's right there

yes I know and then how exciting like when Keith and Ron look at each other and laugh yeah they laughed together fuck that was there still enjoying it yeah yeah yeah yeah and when we were kids there were no old rock stars right yeah yeah it's right right yeah yeah they didn't they didn't

they didn't know this is already dead right yeah yeah yeah you know he died in the 70s right so he was already dead wow man and so when we were kids we thought of rock stars is like Van Halen young wild people on stage jumping around that's a young man's game yeah no one ever

anticipated 80 year old rock star singing rock and roll in their 80s no doubt no doubt by the way I heard David Lee on your show yeah he's been a couple of dumps man I mean that band to me when I was in high school I think I was in ninth grade the first time I fucking heard him I was into Sabbath

my brother got me into Sabbath and then I heard I was walking up to a fucking party was like one of my first house keg parties and Van Halen was blaring over somebody's pioneer system and it was fucking like ain't talking about love but some shit I remember this going what

this is the greatest shit I've ever oh yeah they were the kings and the 80s do it they were the kings when I was in high school yes everybody knew how to make that Van Halen logo and notebook yeah yeah the notebook it was either VH queen ACDZ yeah yeah yeah they were the kings they were

the kings yeah but you know we never thought like we never thought they'd be still doing it no that's right and then then you see Van Halen the last few years alive and you fucking be still as excited yeah still looks move the shit I saw with David Lee Roth maybe four or five years ago

he's he's such a character man yeah he doesn't have a phone he doesn't he doesn't even keep money on him I went to dinner with him and he has a lady that drops him off with me and it's like she's like his handler and she says I have her number she has my number she's like call me if

anything goes wrong you know and and just you're hanging out with David Lee Roth having dinner with him I know I love him talking about fighting with you and because you love him throwing those crazy roundhouse kicks oh yeah he was a real martial artist yeah yeah he should train with Benier Kitas

that's right yeah yeah yeah he's he used to do those things on stage we do like a jumping split kick in the middle of the air I'm believe I look at him yeah he's a real athlete yeah yeah absolutely he's a stud fucking sweet dick on him right there but they look at that picture he's got his pants

hanging down yeah just enough to show a little hit show it's a dick room he's a character man still to this day he's out to lunch man he'll say he say some interesting shit he's smart knows his nose a shit whatever he's into he's deep into it that guy moved to Japan to train Kendo

which is a sword fighting art right right right just him and his dog yeah lived in an apartment in Japan fucking for like years man just training Kendo I fucking anytime you heard that they weren't getting along you just like they what yeah fucking you know that guy yeah oh anytime you would four

fucking people yeah yeah much shit's gonna go wrong yeah especially those egos and the bands and then girlfriends don't like that guy and then right right yeah that shit happens yeah like Valerie Burton Ellie apparently didn't get along with David Lee Roth and that's gonna that's

gonna be pain that's hard for bands to stay together you know I think that's way harder I remember you too would always meet interviews talk about how cool it is that they're still a rock band together yeah yeah if you can get a band that enjoys each other this company that's a fucking

tremendous tremendous asset because so many bands like I was just reading today that Pete Townsend doesn't talk to the rest of the guys in the who he doesn't talk to Roger Daltry they don't talk to each other wow wow that's funny man I just saw them I just saw the who had a benefit and they

fucking destroyed was Daltry's benefit and he he brought the who on there and I think it drummer was maybe Ringo's kid and and if I remember or it's either Ringo's kid or John Bonham's kid or man anyways it was great but Pete and Roger were funny as shit ragging on each

other and saying it quick little insults and it was like massive laughs like a comedian but then they'd fucking have those hits that just take your whole body over and it was great yeah I don't know where they stand now or why they stand that we both just reading an article this morning yeah oh

yeah that they don't talk to each other makes sense they sky like I remember here in Sabbath on tour would fucking all show up in different planes I don't know if any of it's true but you're like fucking Tony Yoni and Ozzy don't fucking hang out the whole time like well there's always a

problem in the band where the lead singer becomes the number one guy and everybody else is kind of secondary yeah yeah that's gonna make you pissed the bands called Van Halen but the main guy's David Lee Roth right right right that's the guy everybody want yeah oh my god hot for teacher

he was the man and so like I could see how he goes and feathers would get ruffles and then the girlfriend on the side like you know the band's name Van Halen it's not man will be rough yeah yeah yeah yeah definitely that's gonna fuck that guy fuck that guy and you got to stand behind

that he's got all the groupies and yeah well but they had some him and Eddie both had the different people who were talking about who's the greatest it'd be like David Lee Roth was just the smoothest and funniest and fucking well the greatest frontman of all time for sure

he was like a stand-up just dominated the crowd just like I think there was some tape going around with remember remember some shit just like that's okay man because after the show I'm gonna fuck your girlfriend I don't know maybe that was David Lee Roth or somebody else but as a kid you

were like oh my god fucking what that was the coolest shit ever but then I remember Eddie Van Halen when the when jump came out the video and seeing him smile and throw down that fucking lead and he was just like is that the coolest fuck on the planet with like overall yeah no shirt over

I went with the fucking no shirt overalls move one time really didn't go well didn't get the respect that as a stand-up but I'm gonna get more respect but I was on stage at a battle of the bands I was I used to sing and play guitar in a band and I went my I think my mom tied died my

overalls and shit and I was like I'm gonna do it I'm going and I showed up and people making too much eye contact with me not wanting to look down at the fucking overalls it's a bold choice it was it was one I couldn't make now one of the funniest choices is what what if you look back at

like the the metal days like you look you look back at like all the guys who dressed up like gay bikers right right right from Judas Priest it's Rob Howford yeah tricked everybody in its dress and like a gay biker yeah yeah because he was gay I loved it yes so he's like leather pants and

the fucking leather biker helmet on and the vest with no shirt on underneath yeah and all these guys started dressing like that yes yes yes yes they didn't even understand they had been tricked in the dress and like a gay biker yeah yeah I love that man that's so great I saw cool I saw them at

fucking radio city with iron maiden really that was a biggie wow I was up in the balcony screaming screaming I want to dress like you yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean come on dude fucking the hellian man oh well well well they were nasty they were nasty that's the top of the

thing comment yeah look at them there with this fucking crazy outfits yeah it's just so funny all the different styles of bands that existed oh man I had fucking leather pants I wore fake leather pants for a bit I didn't know my body wasn't great so I was like you throw that shit on you look like

a rock star then I fucking see the pictures that my mom took of me after I look back at me like how the fuck did you let me out wearing that shit I never fit just right I never had the body for like I would walk into a clothing store growing up there was a play you know Sarah Silverman

the comedian sure yeah I know sir she she grew up in in same town as me and her parents had a a store called junior Deb I believe and it was downtown they sold Levi jeans and all that shit and I remember just going okay I'm gonna get some cool ass Levi's going to school look like a bad

ass and I remember when I would see when I saw a three-way mirror I was like these aren't fit in me like I thought yeah they don't look I don't look as cool in my Levi's because I thought I was you had an idea of your image I want I wanted I saw other people wearing that shit going all right I'm

gonna dress like that guy but it didn't reflect the same when I had it on again youthful delusion yeah yeah did you want to be in a band before you wanted to be a comic one of that for sure what kind of music did you guys sing we did air a lot of aerospace myth a lot of Van Halen a lot of

Sabbath Zeppelin the aerospace myth just canceled their time I know I guess Stephen Tyler you know you had that neck injury where you fell and broke one of the bones in his neck yeah yeah and apparently he just can't sing open his mouth to say good they were planning on doing a thing with

the black crows and yeah and they just for whatever reason you know decided to put the tour out and get get going and then he started and he was like I can't do it anymore that it is painful yeah because the guy's whole life was that and by the way fucking did you like aerospace myth growing

up love them they were the the bad boys that every tune was nasty oh yeah was the nastiest push that mic upon up to you guys sorry bro and and uh yeah they they I loved um my band played literally like 10 aerospace myth too as we'd always fucking play kind of cool ones not not the massive

hits but the whatever the mama kids and they're walking the dog and yeah kind of cool shit like well we both grew up in New England and they were the kings they were the kings yes yes that was they they were the fucking way yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah fuck yeah joe pair yeah BCN yeah BCN

AF uh what was that kind of alternative Tyler he was the fucking man could hit every fucking now how about the fact that I read something that yeah he's a cool bastard and I met him and they're all great guys Joe Perry he's a great guy fucking best that's a New England accent too on Joe

Perry oh yeah it's funny to hear the boys talk I think somebody lived the New Hampshire maybe Stephen Tyler lived the New Hampshire because I that's that's where I grew up and they they definitely they owned New Hampshire well they were the kings of Boston like they were they were fucking gigantic

I remember the controversy when they did that do that they did that song with run DMC when they walked this way what the fuck I know everybody's like what's going on that you mean no shit I know well that's a fucking great song that was a fucking aros myth came back yeah they became the kings

again exactly that was their big comeback song yeah yeah because they're kind of faded for a while yeah and walked this way came along and I was like great young people started getting into them again absolutely yeah it's funny how bands like they get you know like generational right even

though they're great like that's the people that listen in the 70s fuck those people yeah yeah you know now we listen to this yeah yeah yeah and it all it takes is one thing and then people start going through the catalog what Jesus Christ holy shit incredible same I was doing uh fuck who the

fuck was I listen I play a lot of the old shit from my kids and then all of a sudden you just go wow they had so many bangers bangers yeah yeah especially the young drug taking days yeah the wild wild the first three albums kind of shit like Zeppelin to yeah yeah yeah that I mean it's a

different world yeah every comic wants to be a rock star and I think most rock stars want to be comics yeah this this some of that too yeah something about the freedom of comedy that they appreciate yes you don't have a band you don't need anybody all you need is a microphone I don't have sound

guys you don't have anybody can you believe that yeah that's my biggest mistake is I fucking use music in my act so I gotta my piano player Dan Bula he's the best I love having him being together on the road looking back and we we laughed together that's the greatest part but the the back in the

day when I just had a mic and didn't have to show up with shit and you that really is makes it like oh it's amazing yeah you know when I would do these big places like the TD Garden like one of the things that would strike me is like we're just showing up there's no trucks there's no

it's just a stage right and me and three of my buddies and that's it yeah yeah and 16,000 people and but bands play here and they have fucking trucks and shit all these people have to break down the stage they're all the fucking pyrotechnics and all that crazy shit these guys have right right

I know I know we work cool we're cool we did good it chose the right career for us for us yeah until you watch a rock band you go and kick in our ass man it's definitely something different rock I mean rock is kind of like a drug there's something about going to see a band that's

that's really good it's like your your the music hits your body yeah and over one to you yeah like a drug yeah yeah yeah for sure the right tune yeah fuck you up so I agree who who with who were like some of your first concerts as a first concert I saw was J. Giles band you did

yeah that's with Peter Wolf and fucking that that's as cool as a yes that's almost a day that Arlesmith and J. Giles you can battle yeah yeah bossing back then J. Giles was the fucking man when I was in high school yeah see him I saw George Thurlgood there you go Johnny Winter yeah

I saw a bunch of bands where did you see him in I don't remember I wish I could remember I used to go with Wister with their uh sure Wester call CM sent from yeah yeah that's that what it was a century so yeah then I got a job when I was 19 I worked at great woods you did yeah yeah

yeah fucking I played there what a feeling that was yeah because we saw so many shows growing up yeah I saw a lot of comics there too when I I saw some comics there when I got paid yeah in some comics there I paid to see them right like I saw Kinnison there I paid to see you did

that's cool man yeah that was that was I saw Cosby there I saw I saw Rodney there when I was working there he was backstage naked with a bathrobe on yeah yeah that's a big ride those the Rodney days were the bathrobe days okay baby yeah but yeah yeah he would go on stage with a bathrobe

just to make him feel comfortable yeah yeah he just was completely naked with a bathrobe on and just murder or the best I mean this was before I'd even thought about doing stand-up I was 19 fuck man but I got to see uh so I can't listen was he can't listen always dress bad ass like

a rock style yeah he fucking had the big long leather coat on and a beret yeah I doubted that was just after I'd heard about Kinnison too yeah I had heard about Kinnison from a girl that I was working with I was working at besides doing a security guard work I was working at the Boston

athletic club in South Boston wow yeah so I was a trailer right yeah I think so I think they got a fucking basketball court there yeah they got basketball there was a lot of rock ball there a lot of people I've met Bobby or there you did that's cool I had to help Bobby or because Bobby

already had like fucking 150 knee surgeries right his knees were destroyed and you'd have to help him get on the Versa Climber machine oh my goodness Bobby's knees didn't bend right Bobby's knees bended like this much right he had like 12 inches of movement in his knees and so you'd

have to like kind of help him get on the Versa Climber machine wow we want to the greatest athletes of all time you watch them play rock ball and you just kind of fall over yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you know they put it all out there yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah also the knee surgeries back then

yeah archaic right so primitive well just you staples and fucking screws and you see a certain age you see different scars on guys oh his knees that's Bobby's knees oh yeah yeah his knees are destroyed man man what a hero what a style always love them he had 20 knee surgeries

fucking insane was that your team the Bruins I didn't really watch sports oh yeah you didn't no once I got into martial arts I really didn't care about any sports it's pretty cool man that you didn't because I know that's that's the biggest sport town oh it's a huge sport town

everybody call me a pussy because I didn't know anything about football basketball baseball I didn't care yeah it was like that's pretty good that you had your own thought process going I would join join right in we're trying to make the other kids like me dropping something well when I was 15

I just became obsessed with martial arts that's great didn't care about anything else I literally didn't care about anything else I'd watch basketball I'd be like this is nonsense who cares if that ball goes in that hole fucking cool man I mean anything my dad always told me to do

that shit he'd be like do martial arts do martial arts and I like I said I went to the sky I was like I wish I knew his name and I did that and then I think I really early in life I tried it up I could I just my body man I wasn't meant for it it's not for everybody that's good though

that's like everything in life those things that are not for you yeah you just got to find the thing that is for you yeah I found a few and that's all I do hope comedy that's it perfect I mean I got to have your life yeah I guess so so this girl used to work with she was like a

volleyball player and she was really hilarious and she's she was working at the front desk and she was like oh my god I saw this guy this is 1986 is when kinesan had his HBO special and she told me about it she's like there's this guy and his name is Sam kinesan and she she's she know that

bit he did about homosexual necrophilia necrophilia acts yeah paying money to spend a few hours undisturbed with the freshest male corpses remember that bit I got it so she told me about this bit in that we're hanging out in the park and lot of the Boston athletic club athletic club

and this girl is lying down on her stomach on the ground and she's like oh oh my life keeps fucking in the ass even after you're dead it never ends and I was laughing so hard yeah and I remember like this girl just her doing kinesan's bit made me go to the video store to get a VHS

of kinesan special right the first time I saw it it came out on video yeah and then I watched it I was like oh my god yeah that was like the first seed in my head while I was like okay this is comedy too yeah I didn't know that was comedy I thought comedy was like something I really liked

but it was so different than me yeah it was nothing that I would ever do right it was just different it was like I didn't see myself that way but I saw that guy I'm like that guy's a fucking animal yeah yeah yeah you were tough for shit yeah this is a different kind of comedy and it that was like

the first seeds in my head that I had of doing comedy yeah that's amazing and then I got to see him live at great woods but I saw a bunch over there I saw the fuck I saw every I quit the night uh Neil young was there they had a riot really yeah in New England huh well hey the the uh the

lawn you know how man's field yeah the great woods has that lawn out there well it was cold out and people were starting fires on the lawn so they were like starting these little bonfires and you know we had to break up the fires and then brawl started breaking out yeah and I always knew

that this job was like you know what did you get paid like 20 bucks an hour I'm not gonna fight somebody for 20 bucks an hour this is crazy so I always carried a hoodie with me and so I had my security shirt and then as soon as shit would go south I put the hoodie on like I'm out of here

and that's what you get that night I quit oh yeah I quit the night that's funny man yeah yeah it's got 20 bucks to get in a full on brawl yeah there was brawl's breaking out left and right the first night I was there I watched one of the security guys beat this guy with a

walkie-talkie and I was like Jesus what did I sign up for it's a crazy job so because some guy had stole one of the golf carts and there was this dude named Ali Kat who was the head of security there uh-huh and Ali Kat tackled this guy and he's beating him in the head with the walkie-talkie

wow man and I was like whoa okay what did I sign up for like did you did you uh get in fights after you learn your shit like no no that's cool no no no I avoided them all that's not interesting for I would like fights where they were planned you know like meeting a guy and no you

mean it like tournaments yeah yeah that's cool boxing matches I do love those but those to me made sense like fighting on the street it's like no like people have guns people have knives this is fucking stupid sure I was always nervous yeah like I'm not I never felt like you getting a fight

with someone someone hits you in the back of the head with a bat also yeah fight someone yeah it's that's never the end like they're gonna go get their cousins they're gonna get their brother they're gonna try to find you when you're alone like that's true you don't want that kind of problem

in your life just move on oh it's so easy to take take whatever they throw one at you with like that's supposed to start the fight just being on yeah okay that that makes sense you right I am a piece of shit I'm gonna get out of here now well it all means nothing someone says it only means

something to you if you believe them yes someone says you're a pussy like okay what does that mean this is mean anything yeah you're just saying words until you try to hit me this is nonsense it's like oh you have a bad opinion of me oh that's okay like I don't really care like I also I was

tired all the time because I was training like six seven days a week so I was like I don't want to be involved in this stupid shit right yeah I already worked out today I can't fight you also I was very aware of the consequences of violence I'd seen by the time I was 21 years old

I'd probably seen 40 or 50 people get knocked on conscious right at least what a terrible sight that a lot more than that yeah I see so many people snore you know it's just on the ground twitching and snoring I've seen so much yeah yeah I grew up with that so it's like to me I was

like I don't want none of that my life I don't want to have anything to do with this especially outside of fighting yeah concrete floors and head hitting the ground yeah oh KJ worked with a guy in Long Island when KJ was a bouncer right this guy killed a guy

he punched a guy the guy fell hit his head and died yeah yeah now the guy has to go to jail now you you're working as a bouncer just like I was working as a body as a security guard in great woods like you could have gotten a fight hit someone now you're in jail yeah and you look for what holy

shit yeah that's that's so cool you worked a great one so that's like the what a destination to go to and see so many great fucking bands I you know it's funny you said kennisin I used to be on MTV when I was young and we'd go to Daytona Beach you you were on remote control I was on remote

control quinn quinn got me on and and it was the best but we went to spring break Daytona Beach and kennisin was at the height and I went to it was the first guy saw out in arena kennisin and some other bad boys so with some guys I forget their names but they probably call a

label yeah yeah carla boat right a couple other guys they all got a really funny tough bastards outlaws of common that's it that's what it was and I saw kennisin destroy and that it was it was like I saw Rodney at a theater in Florida where it felt like fucking holy

shit this is a rock show because it was bad man yeah all right not Rodney rapid fire like a machine gun the best Rodney would crush for like eight minutes and then go I know a lot of fucking jokes baby and they go you know that was so cool man but kennisin too just took over you saw him in

the moment yeah amazing yeah I got to see kennisin decline too I got to see the decline because I saw him a couple of times live and the last time I saw him live it was in New Hampshire and there was not that many people there I drove to this theater with this girl that I was Dayton

I was probably 20 at the time again it was before I did comedy and he was just it was already like booze and heavy yeah and it wasn't as good right he was a little bit see peaked in 86 I feel like the kennisin from 86 is probably one of the greatest comedians that ever lived if not the best he

was a monster he was a monster yeah but the guy was doing below and breaking and I out with rock stars and just partying and his brother wrote about it you ever read his brother's book brother Sam right right right right it's a great book yeah it's a great book if you're a fan of standup I tell

anybody go buy that book because it's a great book and Bill said that you could see the drop off in Sam's material because he just stopped writing he right he wasn't hungry anymore right he had made it instead you know because it's like there's this hungry inside of him to make it as a comedian

and that's what led him to be outrageous yeah do all those jokes about like the starving kids in Africa and all these different jokes he did the just so outrageous and that preacher's voice and that fucking powerful delivery yeah but then when he made it man he got real fat and just just

drinking every night he was he was starting wearing the bandana the bandana days the rock star days it just dropped off it wasn't the same it was like a caricature of kennis it's funny it's just happens it happens that when you're drinking or doing out of the fuck it was I got a coat yeah sure

I think that's the that's the one that really like well that makes you not spank straight yeah definitely all over the place you fucking you can't stay steady with a thought yeah and uh but I remember I met him a couple times Paulie sure was very tight with him yeah and I knew Pauline I

hung out with kennis and a couple times but uh but I saw him at the improv the last time I saw him and he had he was a little little he was so sweet like he was so nice to me and he remembered that we hung a little bit you know I was a young fucking dummy and he was nice to me and uh he had that

that kind of glazed had a few too many yeah in the eyes but he was just he definitely was when he walked into the fucking improv that night every comedian was like well holy shit there he is the fucking man right now oh it's cool he changed comedy he really did yeah there was no comedy like that

before kennis and camera out he was a different kind of comedy uh-huh it's like all the sudden comedy was like you could yell yeah oh my god that was the biggest force he was just like in the preacher's voice that thing that he added where he had that charisma of being this yeah

that's the revival preaching yes yes everybody we talk quite yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah oh my god and he was a legend at the store you know when I got to the store goes through these errors right and when I got to the store it was 94 and the kennis and error had ended he died and then there

was this big drop off like the store was kind of vacant when I got there in 94 it was weird like the shows would be half empty and uh-huh yeah yeah they were having problems with it yeah yeah but they all had these stories all the guys like Harris Pete and the guys that were still around

they don't have these stories about when kennis and was there yeah he would perform at midnight and around 11.30 all these rock stars would start showing up and movie stars right yeah and they would all go there to see kennis and so he had the midnight spot fucking cool and they would all go

and I remember thinking imagine people come into the comedy store just to see you yes that must be so insane that's fucking cool as far oh it was the coolest because it was all just word of mouth yeah everybody this is like 84-ish before a pocket everybody just knew about him uh uh rock rock

I remember Chris was in Vegas and I went to see him with Nicholson and Jim Brooks wow and we've sitting there and fucking Nicholson was laughing his ass off and I had that thought you just had a just going fucking rock it's so cool right that people fucking fly an hour like where is he

let me go see him they sit back and laugh and I fucking just going shit rock you really are fucking stud oh yeah the bring the pain days bigger and blacker and bring the pain to the great specials of all of us flawless yeah yeah he's a badass I talked I talked to rock yesterday

just for like 10 minutes or something and we got really excited about stand up again I go you you're writing he goes I kind of like he can't stop when he was doing his tour he's like I need to break blah blah he just did like a fucking year on the road or something right and then he's

right back to like got some ideas yeah I think that's a good way to do it take a little break and just refresh your mind so you're not running stale you know because he did a live special too his live special was fuck I loved yeah and it was also like the buildup because of getting slapped

by Will Smith and all that crazy shit yeah yeah yeah I think that was like the best thing that ever happened to him because then he became like wild again like his stand up was like outrageous like it was like the rock of old that that night was like watching the fucking Super Bowl he was

just like what what's it's a live event holy fuck what the fuck yeah yeah he was got bad ass and I think he had some white shit on and you look cool as fucking you waiting for him to talk about it and yeah he got to it and he got fucking excited well he didn't talk about it for a while yeah

right yeah he would tell people if you think I'm gonna talk about yeah I'm not yeah yeah yeah yeah he wanted to be ready and he wanted to really think about what he was gonna say and how that's because of where we are in life where anything you say is fucking on the internet the next day so

it's next I had to be careful and not blow this shit up also they were right when the bits yes people would just tell the bits yes it wasn't even ready yet yeah exactly because if you have a life changing event like getting slapped at the Oscars in this most preposterous scenario yeah the whole

thing was preposterous yeah I think for him was also a wake up call like hey these motherfuckers don't really care about me yeah yeah yeah yeah they didn't protect me nobody stopped it he went back and sat down and then he got an award afterwards he got standing ovation what the fuck is going on

was fucking weird yeah because you want you always want to be that guy who's hosting the Oscars and who's starring in the big movies and yeah yeah that's what everybody wanted everybody wanted to be the big movie star but then you realize like oh these people are fuckers you know like what

did you do how did you set this up how come nobody tackled him that was fucking weird moment oh the live moments yeah it's like a guy just showing his ass like you just pulled your pants down showed the world your ass like why did you do yeah he probably does he probably wakes up in the middle of the night go why did I do that the whole thing was sucks oh yeah beyond it was almost like a guy who doesn't know how normal people act thinking yeah this is what you're supposed to go smack that guy

he kept it became fucking just just went to a place that he couldn't get out of yeah and started it and still there he's still there and in everybody's mind when you see Will Smith oh he slapped Chris rock that's like I mean not I am legend not Muhammad Ali not insanely good movies yeah yeah

guys an incredible actor absolutely he's been in so many banger movies yeah he's a fucking blockbuster movie star yeah yeah and be able to see him they go oh he slapped Chris rock fuck that fucking sucks god damn it terrible sucks man and fucking yeah it's it follows you around it sucks but

uh but my man uh rock and the and the kinesens like in the that shit when you when you spread it that happens like once every fucking eight years or something maybe because this shit yeah the every now and then someone pops through and it elevates all of us yes everybody that gets to see

it they're going oh my god I want to be better I want to write more yeah yeah when I used to see Chris at the store yeah whenever Chris would come in um and you do a set I'd watch and I'd be like oh my god I remember one time I was fucking in the back of the room and this comic stood in front like

while I was watching Chris is like dude I gotta get on your podcast I'm like you gotta get the fuck away from me I'm watching Chris rock why are you watching Chris rock yeah yeah he's one of the greats and he's on stage right now yes and you're talking to me holy shit get the fuck out of here

that's so funny man because never been on my podcast this day oh like get out of here you're in a moment get the fuck out of here it is he he rock is never wasted a fucking minute on stage always trying to shit out always there was either notebook or just trying to remember whatever never

fucking got uh tense with the crowd just like they're not like in this but I'm like in it so I'm gonna keep going well he would do this thing where he would go on stage and he would just have raw premises right and he was so comfortable with total silence yes yes yes where it wasn't going

well and then he would catch fire and then start killing yeah man and then they're like oh it is Chris rock yeah yeah he was like using them as like a sounding board you're right and he would tell them like I'm practicing you know the same I remember one time he went on somebody

fucking killed and he went on and the first thing he said hold on relax it ain't gonna be that funny all right right right right yeah yeah yeah yeah it's calm down exactly I'm working on some shit yeah but that's how you develop a monster hour you have to start off with building a structure

yeah man get a foundation yeah you're fucking even your first night of the tour by the last night you're going now that's my act now yeah the friends who saw you the first two nights you're like fuck I wish you would have seen me fucking right a couple weeks later I had I figured out that bit

yeah you don't want anybody to see you when you're doing a workout so like get the fuck out man this is a workout set uh this could be terrible this could especially when a buddy sees you yeah like that what a feeling yeah there's no dismount here yeah yeah it's like it's interesting how

those guys like like a guy like rock or kinesin or louis or anybody who's just like really killing it yeah it elevates everybody around you yeah man everybody everybody gets a little better because of that because you get a lot of I think rock was on stage and just killed one time and I remember

John Stewart who was probably 24 at the time I think I was like 18 or 20 or whatever are these differences John Stewart goes I don't I quit I don't like he's just like god damn that's good man well you know that's what Eric Clapton said when he saw Jimmy Hendrix yeah so Jimmy Hendrix is like

what am I doing you feel like a 40 after you see you got great shit yeah well especially a guy like Hendrix that comes along and he's doing something completely different than everybody else man everybody else is playing guitar they're all great yeah and then also in this guy comes

oh my goodness I know oh that wasn't asked when I work with Phil Hartman he told me a story when he was 18 years old he worked at the whiskey and he his his job was they they have those stage monitors and sometimes the stage monitors the the the artists would accidentally kick on when they would go into the crowd so his job was this because they were it's a you've been the whiskey yeah sure small stage right not that big yeah and so when he would he'd have to stand there like to be prepared to

like catch the speaker uh-huh and Hendrix yeah was right there like where you are yeah yeah Hendrix was oh and he was 18 years old and he's like a dude it was insane that's so fun man I was because Phil could play a little guitar too but he was watching he's like I'm watching literally the greatest

guitarist of all time yes and he's three feet away from that's fucking cool man it's saying and then Phil did all the the album covers and shit man oh you know I have one of them out here well he framed yeah man one of his album covers he did a bunch he's a great artist he was a very

interesting guy oh yeah he can do so many different things yeah he he studied so he made me feel like such a fraud because he would study his lines and he would have like little post it tabs yeah well different colored ones for different scenes and you have notes and all these different

things and he he would like prepare for me to be preparing the mirror like yes yes yes I was like I know he was the pro for sure such a pro all right with everything all right oh man like when we were doing the show he was getting his pilot's license so like every day in between scenes he

would be like reading these pilots manuals yeah he was just like surreal man to something yeah yeah I lived in the same apartment building when I was on SNL as Phil oh wow so I'd see it we'd go up on the elevators together and talk about shit I was you know of course he was older so you

would just excited that he'd be talking to you yeah he was a cool motherfucker yeah I remember the first day on the set of news radio like I couldn't even believe he was really there yes I was like looking over across the table you know doing a table read yeah how do I get on this fucking show

I didn't have zero acting like I did this right you get it this the craziest story the whole thing's crazy I did MTV half hour comedy hour right I'm dealing like whatever five seven minutes whatever was the host joiner yeah Mario joiner yeah so I did MTV half hour comedy hour I got a

development deal I don't know where wow MTV MTV was offering me a development deal and then my manager started saying it was very little money was like 500 bucks they were gonna lock me up for like three years it was crazy low money it was so stupid but you would like to think about me let's

do it yeah I was thinking about do because this is like after remote control and they'd made Dennis Leary famous yes they had decided they were gonna lock people up to deals now because Leary got famous off that and then he took off and then kind of went away from MTV I see yeah yeah so they

had decided that they were gonna lock up talent so right so if I did this pilot the pilot got picked up I would have been there so my manager said he said I have an idea and so he decided to send my MTV tape out to all these studios and say this guy's about to sign a development deal

for for MTV locked up but he's still available so then I started getting all these phone like people call my apartment I was at home like hello and like all right this is Bob Bob from Universal you know we want to get you on a plane right now to Los Angeles I was like what wow

so I called my manager I called Sussie and I was like hey dude this fucking people are calling my apartment he goes don't answer your phone he goes go to the pool hall don't answer the phone and he goes just leave it all to me and so within like three weeks I had this crazy deal for like

a hundred fifty thousand dollars which is the most money I'd ever even heard of in my life and all of a sudden I was in Hollywood like out of nowhere so that I was on a deal with like CBS it was with Disney we did a lot which is crazy because I was filthy right yeah yeah but they would yeah

and also I have a deal with Disney and I'm on block for that my box sitcom and so I had to get acting lessons I took a few acting lessons I hated it I was like this is gross yeah yeah yeah and then but I knew how to just pretend I'm like I pretend on stage I just pretend like sitcom acting

is pretty easy right and so all of a sudden I'm on this sitcom it gets canceled and I'm like oh thinking about moving back to New York but I was like I hated LA I hated being around actors you couldn't joke around with them they're all so sensitive right it was on pills they're all on antidepressants like get me out of here I can't do with I want to go back to comics yeah and so I was ready to move back to New York and but I had got this fucking apartment I thought that the sitcom

was gonna go so I got a lease on this beautiful apartment in North Hollywood I had a loft and a pool table I thought I was all and yeah you know I was making like twenty grand a week I was like amazing it's fucking big yeah I thought like I'm I'm merch yeah so I got this apartment I'm like

wow this apartment I can't just leave the apartment right what the fuck do I do right and so then I got another development deal and so I I'd gone I don't two auditions in my entire life one of them was hardball got that show the other ones news radio I got that show it was made no sense made no

sense and all of a sudden I'm sitting there and I'm sitting across from Phil Hartman yeah I'm like this is crazy that's a biggie I just not I had full and that show fucking keep going for for a while news radio was big no wasn't it wasn't I thought it was in that real stingray yeah it wasn't big

until after it was canceled oh I say and then it went into syndication how many years did it five years that's pretty good yeah but it became a really big in syndication I see I see before years I think we did five years we did like 98 shows who did who else was on I forget all

the more tyranny she's right right day fully amazing that's right dick yeah yeah and that's how I met Farley through Andy and candy Alexander she was awesome Vicki Lewis he was Steven Root amazing all right so it was a great cast yeah I you know I felt like a fraud I was like all

these people of like background and theater background and films yeah movies and TV shows and I was like yeah dirty made everybody feel that way every everybody was kind of like well he's he's the next level oh he was the next level and he was so good him and Steven Root was so good too he

was the one that wasn't even himself everybody else was just being a version of well Steven Root and you know he was a different human yeah like he was a sweet normal guy and then he would play Jimmy James and he would just fall into this character yes yes yes yeah just like when he was in

office space yeah I believe yeah so it was just worship too yeah bizarre being on that show because I was 26 27 when I was on a show and I was sitting big money wow but it was also confusing I felt like such an imposter yeah someone's gonna figure out that I'm bloggers that's a good that's a good

that's a good person to be feeling like that I think I was a cocky fuck who was like yeah baby they figured it out but I literally didn't get shit growing up I I auditioned for shouldn't and never got nobody like me really every audition they were just like I would talk to my agent

after and be like you know nervously asking what they say you know and then they'd have to be well yeah did you read the sides before I'd be like what do you mean that's what they said of course I read the sides they're like I thought you didn't know it that way I go what I thought

I thought I thought I knew it real well they didn't like it do you think that you're they would use words to kind of be gentle with me but just say you're not you're not ready yet well it's funny how you have confidence when you're young and you really do think that you're ready

like I remember thinking that like at open mic nights like you'd see someone on stage and they're bomb like God I wish I could go up there yeah how's terrible yeah I would bomb too yeah of course yes watch another actor and you go when you were young and you see when you're age on a show

you'd be like what's with what I could fucking question and then you realize looking back oh that kind of was pretty fucking good yeah well news radio is fortunate because I got to play like a more retarded version of myself uh-huh it was like basically like in a lot of conspiracy theories and

okay and delusional I was like a version of me all right so the the writers are very they know that they they were writing that I say figured me out after a while and sort of writing stuff in as far as you know I've talked to them about fucking UFO projects oh wow man top secret shit and

then they put all that kind of stuff in the script that was into stupid things was fast you got into that shit real young oh yeah yeah yeah I was alone in your head or you just you had somebody who brought it up to you and you started going with that well with conspiracies I friend of mine

who was in a band gave me a book once on the road and it was a book called best evidence by this guy David Lichten it's all about the Kennedy assassination he's like you got to read this the government killed Kennedy I was like what hey guys I remember reading this book going what the

fuck I read this book it was just really funny and I went on stage after I read it and bombed uh-huh and and I apologize to a club owner I was like look man I'm funny I read this my mind was in right and they're like don't read it tomorrow I got promised I'm not gonna read

tomorrow tomorrow I killed I killed the next night because I put the book down so you got to be I didn't bomb terrible but it was flat it wasn't good I was in a weird headspace yeah I was like Jesus Christ they killed the president yeah I was like this is nuts that's funny man wow it

fucked you up it fucked me up and then it got me down this conspiracy spiral yeah I started questioning things yeah it's like what else don't I know wow I started reading about all kinds of different things I didn't know that's fucking amazing man this book called The Strange Death of

Vince Foster it's all Vince Foster guy work with Clinton who got murdered in verse they said it was a suicide he had the gun in his hand there was less but it but less blood at the crime scene that was missing from his body because seemed like his body had been transported to the crime scene

wow yeah yeah Jesus Christ oh you those things will fuck you up fascinating yeah if you get involved in reading books like that and you get your head gets filled with that kind of shit you know Quinn was like that too oh yeah Quinn read a lot of shit and he would tell me to read stuff and

I remember he knew a lot about crazy mass murderers and shit and I would start going what happened and he would tell me these things and I remember telling my dad some of the shit quit Quinn told me about I don't remember but I'd be like and then this guy and my father started

again like that's my son of fucking murder why is he talking so much about murder so much Joey Diaz gave me this book called murder machine once it's about Roy DeMail you know Roy DeMail he was a serial killer who worked for the mob and he he would kill people like

they had to bar downstairs and they had an apartment upstairs he would kill people and then cut them up in the bathtub upstairs yeah and just killed a bunch of fucking people it's a horrific book right and I remember reading that called Jesus fuck it just knowing that

there's people out there oh my god and you just getting the wrong fucking place the wrong guy shows up at your house oh boy oh boy yeah it was just like those things are terrible to read before you go on stage though fuck you brain up that's so funny that you ate it because of that

book oh yeah I've eaten it a couple times because I did the wrong thing before I went on stage one time I had a gig in New Jersey and it was a college and I had it it was a weird place to get to it was back in the day before navigation so they would give you the directions over the phone like

you go to 405 so get off this exit so they give me the directions and I get I leave early because they tell me it's really hard to get to and I get there about a half hour early yes but it was hard to get I was like Jesus Christ is a place hard to find yeah and I was working with JB smooth

aha and JB was supposed to open and I was supposed to close and they said JB's not here yet so it won't just relax in the the rec room and sit out and and we'll tell you when the show's going to start so I sit down and I'm watching this documentary on the Malibu fires and it's all

these people like people lost their family lost their house houses a little kid walking around we're looking for his dog Rusty where are you Rusty oh fire yeah one for their dog dogs dead right and there's this firemen who is just weeping and crying oh my the people in this community lost

this house and then they come in the green and they go like JB's not here yet so we're gonna have you open up and hopefully when you get up stage he's gonna go up my okay and the fucking we're I'm crying I was a little crying watching this thing about these people losing everything in these fires

right oh my god I want to say just eight shit that's terrible and then finally JB's shows up and he showed up and he went on after me and murdered yeah see was loose and had me really came in the right mood didn't watch that shit yeah and he's a killer anyway he's very yeah yeah and I

remember they're god you can't do that yeah I was with my girlfriend at the time and she was like so disappointing to me like wow but she's seen you kill before yeah she knew I was funny as funny man with you I got watch that fucking thing that I have similar it's not from watching something oh

I have moments where I'm driving to a club and I'm in this fucking mood where I'm going oh my god I ain't gonna fucking destroyed tonight I have such a like the last two hours have been in the right mood maybe some fucking song comes on I'm like oh fuck that fuck me up a little bit that song

yeah I bet I walk in then I'm in this fucking weird mood I'm a little down I get on stage all of a sudden I let the crowd own me I'm like what the fuck happened I was so ready to kill tonight and I fucking turn into yeah you're in the cut just just to the morning

oh no yeah man who's in the plans they may put in it oh why am I here he gets sad you can't get sad for you going to say it you got to protect your mind my fuck my wife helps me out sometimes when she sees my head spinning before I go up she goes they're here to see you

oh it's good they like you you don't have to worry so much I'd be like oh yeah yeah yeah okay they are they're here for the good time yeah don't fuck then you know they're not testing you right go have some fun with them yeah no no you're right you're right and then I go fuck let me

go on happy because at the times I go on fucked up and being like yeah guys gonna like me or I'm like I have to fight like I have I have fucked up that's why to me one of the things I've realized early on is take people on the road with you because in the early days when I was headline

and they would have like a local middle act and a local opener and sometimes it'd be fun that's right and sometimes it'd be terrible sometimes they'll be a douchebag yeah like why are you fucking close yeah yeah yeah yeah step on your material like they'd see your set first night and

then they cover the same stuff holy shit you have to argue with them why you do it came in you do you're doing one of my fucking bits no man I've been doing that bit like yeah I think there was like a lot of sabotage going all right it just wasn't fun because then you'd be stuck in this town

you didn't know anybody oh yeah watching TV go the movies by the condo yeah yeah depressing yeah so I realized like if you could go on the road with funny people you're gonna have fun well yeah it's good for them because they get a gig so I just have to pay the opening act and

I have to pay for their airfare and I would make less money but I would have more fun I was like more fun is more important than anything absolutely and it's more important for the show too you go up in the right frame always and I know that the comics in front of me are gonna be really good yeah

yeah yeah yeah so it's gonna be a good show yeah yeah yeah I want the audience to have fun but I want to fun too yeah so then it was a party then I'd be on the road yeah show ideas and we'd be having a party and where we go we'd be just having fun yeah and then it became family it was like

we were wherever we were it didn't matter if we were in Ohio and you Jersey it was us we're like day time it's fun yeah have dinner together then go fucking do exactly stay up all night yeah I know but Joey was such a wild card yeah is that this is back in the the Joey the cocaine

days this is Coco Joey yeah yeah yeah yeah so I used to I brought a second opening act in case Joey didn't show up wow yeah yeah yeah yeah make them sense because sometimes I didn't want to tell him he couldn't do the gigs yeah not reliable yeah because I loved them and I love be I'm like the times

these they are so magic sure I want to make sure that he knows he's always got a fucking side book them and then sometimes I book them and we do Friday and Saturday yeah and then I call him on Sunday I gave a show seven I got I'm going back home I'm going to talk you know I don't do Sundays

I'm gonna talk about you know do Sundays I told you Joe Rogan I don't do Sundays oh my you never told me you'll bring that on me may I yeah yeah yeah yeah so having a third opening act would or second opening you gotta do longer yeah what would be like I'd bring Ari so if it was me

and Ari Shafir is like okay Ari does 25 minutes and then I'll do an hour and 15 or whatever and we got a great show yeah man we have Joey shows up okay ground now we got a three-man show I'm a perfect I love that so I scheduled it just so yeah you know we'd always have some sort of a

fail-safe yeah it's fucking way more fun like when I won't go out with the the gang good Lord yeah yeah yeah you're having fun it's fucking and you write shit yeah you want it because you want to make them laugh exactly instead of doing the same fucking shit over and over you're just like

hey yeah I'm gonna try some new shit out tonight and then your buddies come out and watch in yeah yeah and you watch them and you go yeah yeah and you have a good time yeah you're you're having a good time everyone's having a good time which to me was like way more important than

making X amount of thousand dollars more I'd rather give them that money and then we all have fun yeah yeah that to me was the best way I fucking when I was real young I started at 17 and I had a car and I so I used to get booked a lot because I would drive the good guys you know right but I've

noticed that it was always three of us me and the two other fucking guys who were good and they would have the best time together they fucking think I suck but I it was fine I was just getting to be with the guys who were like 25 I was 17 18 they were 25 shooting the shit you know getting

into trouble but going on stage and destroying but I and then you'd see him fucking hanging in the hotels and shit and and always having the best night and I'd be like yeah that seems like the way I was on my own still they would kind of be like that fucking Adam guy you know take us

home but he's I didn't I didn't think he was that funny but but fucking learn from seeing these superstar guys on the road fucking have fun isn't it funny how sometimes those guys always think of you as that guy they their relationships are the same exactly they still like hey what's up they're

like I know you fucking went on I remember when you sucked yeah it's exactly and you talk back to him yeah you talk I'm I still let him own me these guys all right you did see me suck you're right well that's why you have to get out of your town because they always remember you as an open

micro oh yeah yeah yeah like I didn't get any like headline and gigs in Boston wow wait where did you play you played stitches the stitches nicks comedy stop yeah yeah connection connection what a room it was great room fucking little one the little one was the best tight was healing too yeah

low ceiling that's the one I see yeah it was stuffed stuffed in there bumper it was packed there's a fucking time yeah played again Sam's was that yeah yeah yeah I didn't play it against Sam's that place was great what was the one that was a Chinese restaurant Calune Saugus and

Saugus yeah when then Ding Ho was the ding ho yeah I was there for that one oh I think that's the one I did that place went under a few years before I started uh-huh you know so but when I came around I had missed like the heyday of Boston comedy was like 84 and I came around in 88

that's what I started got you okay they were always talk about the ding ho and there was all these killer like Lenny Clark all these guys from the ding ho didn't fuck with Lenny Clark a lot of Tony V something some of these guys you just couldn't fucking you just would watch them go how the

fucking I kill like that well those guys had again as you said they had the same act for like 15 years and that act was like a hammered down like a samurai sword yeah it was so tight like Don Gavin so tight yeah he is actually Jesus Christ I would murder fucking Tommy Sledge do you

remember he he would pretend to be a private eye I backed up I moved on he was funny shit some of those guys some of those guys and some of those ladies man they murdered and uh yeah did you ever see that documentary when stand-ups stood out nah france alameda made this great

documentary about the heyday of Boston comedy oh stand-ups stood out right right and it was all about the transition between these guys being these local comics that were as good as anyone in the world yeah and then Stephen Wright becomes famous wow and then Stephen Wright gets on tonight show

he becomes this world was it letterman or tonight show that he first did I forget what it was but he became he became huge yeah and then they're all now everyone's like scrambling like what did we do like we didn't we didn't have an act that translated outside of Boston yeah that's that's true

back then it was very Boston very very very Stephen Wright definitely in my high school holy shit everybody knew every it was like Rodney he was like right after Rodney you would repeat his jokes you couldn't believe it yeah and and everyone was like he's fucking so smart I used to work in a

fire hydrant factory you couldn't park anywhere near the place yeah I'm believe it's ridiculous I think I tried to write like him in the beginning I think I as a stand-up did like 10 different guys I didn't know who I wanted right I didn't know what was right I was doing like Bobcat kind

of shit I do a character I didn't know what the fight but Stephen Wright we'd always me my buddy we'd kind of try to write in that vein of a little weird and make you think and what us what a cool joke I don't fucking know I also remember all those guys got popped by the IRS

because they're enough yeah they all got popped because none of them are paying taxes they're all getting paid cash yeah yeah yeah and so they all got in trouble I remember working at Nick's Communist Thump they offered you could get paid in cash or in Coke yeah yeah I remember

those things yeah that's how wild those those days were yeah and so these guys were just animals they were all getting paid cash they were drinking and party and every night and they were headlining and in there's one time during the heyday where Nick's Communist Thump had three rooms run in

Simultaneously yeah and they have two shows a night in each room so these guys would do six sets and they were making bank and they all had a deal like the way Nick's Nick's had them set up where they they were Nick's comics exclusives so they would just work for Nick's but they gave

you so much work yeah you didn't want to buy a book too right they've set a few road kids I remember Bill Downs was a connection he used to book me on the road too I work for a private investigator when I was starting out when I was an open-micro and this private investigator was

Bill Downs' cousin and I didn't find out about until after I started working for him wow and to this day one of the funniest guys I've ever met in my life just never did stand up uh-huh he was his name is Dick Dolan you call Dave Dolan rather he called himself Dynamite Dave Dickless Dave Dolan

he was Dickless Dave he was fucking hilarious I have a phone that I see he died a couple years back but I have a phone that I saved and I'll never get rid of because it got a voicemail on that phone from him where he called me up it was like I did a gig in Boston and hung out with him I was like hey Joe like this he was just a Boston character just a hilarious dude yeah and he was cousins with uh with Bill Downs funny man which is just small downs what a guy that guy used to book me all the time

and you even though even when I would do bad he'd be like I heard it didn't go that good I'd be like yeah and I'm in my head I'm like okay it's over big guy yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah didn't go that good big guy yeah right right right yes yeah I know but then he fucking uh get me another gig oh yeah and Quincy there was some place in Quincy man forget the name of that the the naughty pine did you ever work for Dick Dirty I don't think so you never did

Dick Dirty's comedy huts I don't think so. Dick Dirty who was the godfather he called himself the godfather of Boston comedy okay yeah he had a bunch of terrible kids like 88 yeah 88 I fucking was in the scene in Boston more from 84 to 88 okay so you were in the heyday I was you got there

like right I got there it was huge I wasn't great but then buddy all of a sudden I got on Saturday night live I don't know 89 or something and those same guys would come see me all of a sudden I got big into colleges and I was doing these fucking giant shows back then it was unbelievable you know 2,000 3,000 5,000 seats and the guys that I used to eat it in front of would come

to the gigs with me and they'd watch me they'd be like that fucking loose. Lizard's killing now the fuck did that have it's again the thing when they see you in the beginning they never respect you right right they remember you sucking yeah they were right they were right back there yeah but it's

it's hard for people to accept that you grew yeah which is weird that's true that's true it's like some fucking pro athletes like like Jordan fucking wasn't the man for a while right he got cut from his high school team right exactly it's gonna happen it's in every every every uh

every uh profession that you just gotta get figure out what you're you just gotta practice what did you always want to be on snl or was something that came up kind of I didn't even know it it wasn't that thought I wanted to be a movie star I was cocky and tell them my friends and

colleges I don't be fucking movie star they'd be like why why would you be a movie star look at you you get fucking I'd be like you don't get it man I'm fucking and I thought it was good looking too I thought I was good looking like now I go how the fuck did I think I like I know I'm

normal looking but I thought there was something fucking attractive about me that people are gonna be like that's a fucking stud right there and um no I then I think um I was doing stand-up Dennis Miller said good shit about me to to snl people and then um uh Sandy Warnick was my manager and he knew

all them and they got me an audition and then I did it and then they hired me as asked me to be a writer and I remember saying to her L.A. who knew more about SNL I didn't watch SNL that much I was kind of lost they were like it's really good uh Dana Carby's incredible like oh yeah yeah

he's great he's great they're like and I was like but but I kind of want to get in the movies and they were like and my buddies are like you should do snl if there's that choice you know and I thought you were thinking about not well I wasn't I wasn't sure wasn't sure I was kind of like let's see

let's see I don't I'm not a writer so why am I gonna become a writer it doesn't make any sense I'm not even that fucking good at that what was the audition like what did you have to do I did stand up at in Chicago improv was me rock Dana Gould and a couple other guys and I did decent and the SNL

people's thought I wrote some funny shit Lauren thought I wrote some funny shit Robert's Michael thought I had some shit and then I got on wow and spade was I was 23 whoa yes that was big that's nuts that's as cool as it gets yes was that feeling like it was uh all of a sudden it became like

you were in a rock band because I had you know far they got on and fucking rock and spade and and we would walk down the street in Schneider and Norm and we all were tomatoes we were just always together so there was this is a crazy band confidence you know if anyone talked shit

about the show we were at a restaurant like it wasn't that good to say we were just like shut the fuck up me like we were fucking ready because there was so many of us you know it was like but when they were alone and somebody says I saw you're kind of like huh yeah you know something

cool about having a bunch of guys with you oh yeah what's confidence yeah you got a you got a team yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah 23 yeah what was it like like when when it was popping because you were on a great era of yes and L2 look at that fucking cast yes yes yes yeah yeah fucking cast oh

fucking every young speed looks and rock oh my god cute yeah Franken Jesus Christ yeah look at that cast that's when he was in the cast that year meeline everybody love everybody everybody love and Ellen Clegghorn I knew from the comic strip wow and and Melanie and Julia they all all cool

all cool very tight became but we all love Neelan every every comedian loves Neelan here everybody like like the way he dropped jokes in and fucking smoothes smoothes out this is a crazy looking at yourself back then I fucking don't know what I was thinking

spades sent me a fucking skit we did like six months ago and I was like this is the first time this ever happened spade I don't fucking remember that one ounce I didn't you know what that thing was about I don't remember what it was but I go I didn't remember saying any of those words

I didn't know what the jokes were I didn't know what the fucking ending was he's like you don't so I don't fucking remember that when you did he goes I sorted it but it was weird that's how I know I've been doing this so fucking long this shit I know I've been doing this shit long when somebody

comes up to me a big famous motherfucker and we go hey man I go a nice to meet you and he's like nice to meet you we met and I'm like I fucking didn't remember meeting you with the fuck happened well you you brain gets overwhelmed with people yeah you know that number done bars number

do you know what that is no done bars number is a principle that you can only keep like 150 people in your head and given time and then there's some people that you can keep kind of like in a distance like acquaintances but there's like a tight group of a small number and then as it branches

out it gets to like 150 everything after that is very sketchy wow and when you're famous you're constantly meeting people which is very unusual for human beings that's right yeah very unusual also very unusual that they know you but you don't know them right so this is this weird thing

yeah we go a nice to meet you like we met oh yeah yeah I forgot sorry I don't like you it's almost care I'm not mean I got to get with a bunch of them today yeah yeah your brains overwhelmed with with people right there's no room you don't have room it's like remember the old phones where

you can only keep like a hundred contacts yeah you only have the this all the phone it had like one yes fucking little tiny yeah hard drive yeah and once you got over a certain nobody keeps a hundred people on your phone that's funny yeah that was that's all it could take and that's how

your brain is your brain doesn't have room for all these people yeah so it's not even your fault it's like your brain's not designed to be famous no one's brain is designed never thought of it like that that's what it is that's great and then when you've done so many things like as many things as

you have it's just normal that you're gonna forget yeah yeah yeah when the pandemic was going on my kids found out about news radio they didn't know about it because I don't you don't talk about your shit yeah but I don't think they're fucking they don't they're not impressed by me

yeah I got the same kids diss me all the time right they're always crack at jokes I mean it's fun it's fun we talk a lot of shit but it's fun but you know they watched me on news radio and I watched one of the scenes I was like I don't even remember this right all oh you had that too right oh yeah

I didn't remember it at all don't remember being there don't remember that room remember not occasionally Kate I'll remember like four or five episodes oh yeah remember that one that was a fun episode that's funny man yeah but it's weird you know your brain just doesn't have any room

for it's almost like it's a lie like that into that yeah oh my god this is AI that by the way not one time I've ever looked back at that shit from 30 years ago and go whoa was I good I'm always like geez yeah what the fuck were you doing what a fucking horrible performance there well then

that's probably a good sign that's a sign of a person who's not egocentric right right right kind of have a good sense of who you are yeah yes I hope so the people that think everything they did is amazing you ever go over someone's house they might want you to watch something that don't

make me do this oh that's that's not me do this you gotta watch my real no no that's a ruffy don't make me watch this yeah yeah yeah you can say don't you don't want this don't do this man don't do this this is for the best also I'll start shit on you yeah if you play that I'm gonna say shit

it's gotta be a bizarre feeling to be 23 years old and beyond an iconic tell man I was fucking never more excited to call home and talk to my new hamster buddies and be like it I mean remember all that shit I said that was gonna happen it's fucking happening I don't have to bullshit right now

it's really going and then when I would get on the show say one line whatever it was just like my parents my family my friends just like that was so that was incredible you know I would play the bus boy or the delivery guy it's just say half a line and it was like holy shit you did it

you're on TV man wow my first TV show was showtime at the Apollo I did that that was my first thing I ever did wow and they fucking sent a limo to pick us up there was I was I lived in Chelsea how are we then I think I was 18 or 19 I think it was 18 18 that's crazy went on and it was the

second episode ever of showtime at the Apollo the first was rock and rock cursed so much that they didn't use his shit so I was like the first comedian to be honest I fucking forget um shit the host was uh what's that great great guys in the moon is it yes that's Melba Moore oh my god yes

this one goofy guy terrified look at that face fucking young dumb I don't know what's happening there how painful is this to watch hurts hurts yeah yeah hit mute hit mute yeah no I fucking yeah yeah I can't say I was very good back

then but I had some fucking confidence what was the first movie you did uh first movie I did was pretty awesome I 22 moved out to LA did stand up at the improv is probably my third time ever I get off stage uh two or three nice youngsters director writers came up to me hey that was good you

want to be in a movie I said yeah for sure they were like okay we're gonna make a movie we're doing a movie on a boat I said okay when when next week we leave okay great I said uh you know so I do have a big part they go well you're the star I go okay cool so I go home I tell Judd

after I was with my all my buddies and Judd comes over goes what happened I said that they said I can start they go what do you he goes do they have a script they go oh I don't know I don't I don't I didn't even know they were scripts I knew nothing about it and then I just fucking

went on a boat for six days and shot this movie at the time it was called the unsinkable shaky mosquits and but now it's called babes of holy and I was 22 wow that was you star the movie I was I was shaky whoa I don't know how it happened Milton Burle wasn't

it whoa I had a scene had a scene with him so I got to tell my parents I'm doing great what was Milton Burle look very nice are you sure everybody is cock it was accidentally seen if I remember that big hug of his fell out of his shorts and he had a monster heart very very pretty show

everybody is a hog imagine that about getting to show you dick and being there you yes by the way I was in shape then yeah that's Adam he look at that yeah yeah that's me skinny and that's yeah yeah I would get shut down by a girl there and that's when I was fucking young and happy 22

years old 22 wow thanks for showing that it's good without volume and then what I don't know what happened that it's been whenever my kids see that shit my like what they're like why did you talk like that I don't know I was an acting class at school and I did a scene I thought I did

great and then you know how they opened it up to the class to see shit one kid goes why is he talking like that and then my head I'm like what the fuck is this guy talking about it why did you use that dumb voice I was like what fucking dumb but then I want you to go oh that kid was

right man what was the first big movie you did I was in Bobcat gold weight made a movie called shakes the clown I remember that that was a great fucking movie that was exciting that was good that was the alcohol clown exactly and Bobcat was funny as shit and he made me in Blake Clark we

were his best friends and that was it that was the big time wow loved it shakes the clown that movie doesn't get enough love that was big I was like a lot of people like that one you know it wasn't a massive hit but it was cool shit yeah it was cool it was a crazy movie yeah yeah it was

like Bobcat stretching his wings is this before after police academy I think I think he did police academy first yeah yeah wow man you got every fucking thing ready to go Julie Brown down down Julie room yeah wow man yes yes there's Bob on the ground or I think there's Bobcat

yeah and Florence Henderson was in it there he is yeah he knew what he was doing Bobcat he knew it a direct I didn't even know what he was talking about back then he's like I'm directing I was like well he directed the first episodes of the shepel show like he did yeah I was in New York and I was

walking down the street and I was doing carolines for the weekend wow and I was just walking on street and I ran into Bobcat and I go hey man what are you doing he goes oh I'm here with Dave Shepel we're doing this show and I ran out of Dave and Dave had a fake mustache on I go Dave what

are you doing he goes oh hey Joe you want to be on my TV show I was like okay what I got I got like an hour he goes we're handing out medals for the best New York boobs and so he gives me this box of medals and me and him just walk around with this box of medals this is like 2001

wow wow so funny oh I mean you could never do this today yeah yeah wow look at you yeah fucking hey wow it was just completely random shit he's just like Dave Shepel there too he wasn't coming up with a new guy he's very yeah yeah he's got his arm on her boobs you can't you

go to jail for that today yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it was just Bobcat was directing it that's so funny yeah just complete random running to Bobcat in the middle of nowhere that's cool yes and he was older than us where he was like he knew

his shit well he was a guy that like you know Bobcat had that crazy act early on yeah yeah yeah and he just started didn't want to do it anymore yes yeah yeah yeah we just do standup and people like hey where's Bobcat yeah right fuck you yeah he fucking had he stayed strong with quit

yeah he had a seat he did a show with me about a year ago he came out a couple of times I think and fucking murdered it's a funny guy yeah yeah he was always a very funny standup yeah but he was trapped in that character that he did that screaming crazy pull your hair out yeah yes you know

it's like there's guys that have characters like emo Phillips yeah that yeah I love them yeah but you can't do that when you're 80 yes I know I know I know it's like but I was trying to do that that's what I'm saying when I was young and I wasn't doing well I was like I started doing a guy

who was drunk on the age of started doing a guy who was very nervous I don't know I was I was going for that shit too just trying to find it I didn't know what yeah I'm trying to be comfortable on stage you know right and that's what you had going on your live show I was like well shit

comfortable fucking not terrified you you saddened moments not not easy to do I was in the zone you were in the zone how the how about the fact that you got in the zone when there are times when you walk on that stage in these pressure moments you just go I'm here I'm talking but I'm not here

right now right my mouth is moving I don't know where the fuck is going I'm you didn't have that though well I had been through a bunch of those before so I knew never to let that happen when I was out there in the live show so let's also why I was scared of doing it so I just really over

prepares big I made sure that when I got out there I was just I just said to myself everything that I'm talking about every time I want to be only thinking about that subject I don't yeah I'm not gonna let my mind deviate or go oh my god this is going good right right shit don't

fuck up this prep segue don't fuck this up don't fuck you can't think like that you got to I felt like when I'm at my best I'm only thinking about the thing I'm talking about yeah yeah and then the you lock the audience yes I think stand up as a form of hypnosis yes do you think so too

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I get exactly what you say you lock them in to the way you're in that when I'm seeing a guy kill on stage yeah I'm locked into the way they're thinking I'm letting them think for me I'm just like think for me right you know and that is a funny and it's like

it's a form of hypnosis and I said the only way that that's going to really work is I have to just be completely dialed in like I wrote out all my bits I listened to recordings I watch videos I prepared for five hours the day of the show wow just watching video I went to the gym and in the

gym I'm listening to my soul shit yeah I'm just like I want to be just die I get in that yeah 100% dialed in oh that's a fucking great feeling yeah when you go I know all my shit man because sometimes I'll do a tour then I'll break down for two weeks because I got you know I can't be

gone too long and then I go oh shit I got a gig again Friday and then I listen to the shit yeah and then I start going oh yeah oh yeah fuck fuck you forget tags oh god yeah but then that's a week break on a tour and then you go back out man you're psyched to say that shit again oh yeah

and you come up with other shit to say and yeah but you do have to go over the material your brain doesn't remember anymore no no no like your stuff just goes away what about you with a having shit that steps on that the hardest part of doing an hour is fucking having the 10 minutes

up front not hurt the fucking right it's just so crazy I got a lot of stuff yeah but I did it's been six years since my last special like I said I was thinking about doing a special in August of 2020 yeah then the country shut down and then I didn't do stand up for eight months and when I

did so stand up again I remember I had to listen to old recordings yeah luckily I record everything so yeah that's good I have all my recordings on my phone so I listened to stuff and then I had to write things out but I remember the first set that I did I did the Houston improv and I hadn't

done stand up in forever and I remember when I was on stage I was like oh this is weird I had never in my whole career I got knee surgery and from my knee surgery I took two weeks off though like the most I had ever taken off ever I think one other time I took a month off for some reason I forget

why but that was weird too but that was like when I was in the middle of a bunch of other stuff I was just working so much I didn't have any time and then I remember that was I don't do that again because it feels awkward to get back but eight months was crazy yeah yeah yeah yeah that's

feeling yeah you forget how to do it yeah but it gets kind of even just two weeks take two weeks and go back on stage again you feel weird like what am I doing it's all new shit yeah rain again it's also the experience of doing it is weird yeah you know how to do it but it just feels it doesn't

feel comfortable what a fucking odd feeling when you think about going on stage and just going yeah I'm basically telling all you people just watch me for an hour right just watch me you gonna it's worth your time I know you drove you got babies yeah yeah yeah yeah this is here we go

yeah you bought tickets in advance you planned your day out what a psycho over human being could just go let me fucking come look at this yeah you have to be out of your fucking mind or just really prepared yeah yeah maybe so my my special this one I did probably two and a half hours

of shit and had to cut it you know Josh safty and we all had to pick the right the shit we thought was the right shit that's but I did have so much it I'm by the time I did the special I just came off the road as I just had where did you record it we placed in Glendale I have a little theater

oh cool hey yeah can I I'm sorry to interrupt can I hit it can I pee for one yeah we've been wrapped this up we've we've done two hours and 40 minutes we did yeah this is yeah we've been in that long yeah we've been in a fucking insane this is a set up that's my first my yeah first

Netflix I like the backdrop that's cool too it's just normal yeah it's like did you set it up like that or is that just what it looked like back there that that was it that was that theater I forgot the name of that theater it's a cool it's less of the way it looks yeah yeah that actually that

day was you know Paul Thomas Anderson the great great guy and a great director he he shot that shit how many people are there in the crown some that one there that's that first special I did like five six years ago that summer like big ass joints you know like big arena then summer like

200 300 but the new one the new one was only like I don't know 200 200 people 250 oh wow it was real small nice that's a great way to do it too because the people that are in the audience yeah there there's 200 people like so people at home it's gonna be like you're there instead of being

in arena where you like you feel disconnected you can laugh at the jokes but you don't feel like you're there that that's exactly what so Josh Safdie he directed and he wanted it to feel like you getting a hangout with me and it's kind of like just shit goes on throughout the show that's

that wasn't supposed to happen and and that's that it shows me before a show during the show and after the show and man we had fun it is a great fucking vibe that place that was not a comedy club it was just a little theater that they do these people bought a theater they put on

little plays there and shit and then Josh liked it and they made it kind of feel like a stand-up that's awesome and when is it out what day uh the 27th August 27th yeah okay it's a couple weeks from now yeah yeah yeah all right man I can graduate on yours thanks for everything thank you

thank you thanks congratulations to you too my pistol ended the whole thing I appreciate all right right on that's imagine amazing you hung in this long lot of people an hour and a half in they start clamping up that's good man I just I just mentally said I got to get past that pissing man well thank you brother I appreciate you I appreciate you being here too could you see a Joe Congrats thank you thank you thank you all the good boys and family too thank you all right bye