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#2186 - Ari Matti

Aug 09, 20243 hr 50 minEp. 2186
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Ari Matti Mustonen is an international touring stand-up comic, fight commentator, and native of Estonia.  www.arimatti.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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There was some tension. There was some tension. When we had a lovely dinner after your show, we went at it a little bit and we had a little disagreement about compression technologies, pre-empt, cloud lifters. What is your position? Well, my position is well, okay. Okay, a very different place. Let's just say financially we're coming from a very different place.

But I tried to use the sure SM7B. We actually got for my podcast to see that shout out. Here we are. It's a stony. You're not gonna. Well, yeah, I mean, what did you just shout out? To see so it means it means direct translation is pussy munchers. It's my podcast. Oh, yeah. So you have is it in Estonian? And it's a Spotify will translate it to English. Maybe you'd be the first that goes the opposite way. If AI translate this podcast, I'm fucked, you know. Oh, yeah, yeah, like take it down.

See, this is the thing. They're gonna do that. I know Spotify is going to do that. But they don't get my charisma and timing down. No, also sense of humor, sarcasm. And when you translate it, say, you sound like a Nazi. I will be a Nazi. I'm so scared. I'm so scared. And humor and what is for lack of a better term, it's called talking shit. Okay. And this is what we do on podcasts. This is what we do in the green room. This is what me and my friends love to do all the time. Right.

We do that all the time. We say things we don't mean because it's funny. We say say things are inappropriate because it's funny. And it is 100% done with fun. And the problem is today, people like to take things and pretend you're saying something.

But that's not what you're saying. Yeah, there's a funny comedian in Canada. He's an American to move to Vancouver. His dean Archie. He used to say off the record talk. Right. It's shit talk. We're talking. We're not saying things that we mean. We're saying things that are fun to say. But what I was going to get to before we did is that the thing that Jamie told me about MS said, well, Tulsi Gabbard was the first person to tell me about it.

So I was talking about how great Tulsi Gabbard is about if you know, you really wanted a great Democratic candidate that was a woman, woman of color, Congresswoman for eight years, served overseas in a medical unit twice. It's where she got that gray streak in her hair. She's like an exemplary human being. She likes my kill tone. It's on Instagram. And they tried to say that I was talking about Kamala Harris. So they edited out a context.

Dude, I've seen your edited videos with ads because yeah, there's a lot of AI ads. Because really me because Estonia is in Eastern Europe and a Russian bot system in that country. It's crazy, right? Oh, it's crazy. I've seen fake podcasts where there's a guy on your podcast, which never has happened. Right. And the guy has a sure SM7B not this mic stand. Let's be honest. It's some shittier version and the backdrop is similar. But you can tell it's not that podcast.

But you can do amazing things now with AI. You know, you could do it with video editing for sure. Like you could just have a guy splice in him being in this chair, me being in that chair. And if you did it right and you spent your time on it, you could make it very convincing. And that's just the beginning man. There's a podcast with me and Steve Jobs. I never met Steve Jobs. There's like, I think it's 40 minutes long. How long is the podcast with me and Steve Jobs?

Well, it's a completely AI generated podcast. It's just audio. But from what I've heard, it's you can kind of tell, but it's getting close. It's getting to the point where you're not going to be able to tell. You know, when you you hear enough computer generated sentences, you're going to catch little glitches in the matrix. You know, it's going to sound a little off.

But you can only catch those glitches in the matrix because you're a person who's also around technology internet. So you kind of kind of see the scam going on. It's not a super visible scam. It's like a exactly. I see it scam. Yeah. So how long is it? 20 minutes. Okay. So it's just me. Let me hear some of it. It's anality. They seem to have a soul in a way. And some people almost get religious about this stuff because it's so powerful and it means so much. Is that good?

If a company gets to the point where it's successfully doing a few things, you don't have to try and do everything. We're in the process now of trying to cut the things we're doing so that we can concentrate on the few that are really high on our priority list.

Because if you try to do too many things, none of them get done well. Well, that transition is on a few and make sure the transitions should be. But even more importantly, the sound is very different between where the environment that I'm talking in the environment, he's talking for sure. So either he's not in the room, which I don't do. I don't do zoom calls. Those suck. Yeah. Or you know, that's fake. Yeah. It's only two options.

If an audio engineer just tweaked it for a two minutes, they can make it sound so much better. Yeah, you can press. Yeah, you could you could 100% make it sound like you could 100% make it sound like we're in the same room. But they didn't. But this is also like how many months old? I think that's like two years ago. Oh, crazy. So what they have now is way better. It's way better. It's getting to the point where we're not going to know.

And for sure, we're not going to know what things are, what things are real. What you can generate. I'm sure you've seen these under the new Unreal engine. The most complicated video game engine. What is it called engine five? Is that what it's called? It's like, this is spooky. Yeah, if it's so good, it's so good. It's spooky. It looks like a damn movie, like a real movie.

Like in Estonia, the movie industry is moving really well. And the government was financing for a while the building of like a movie fucking, I don't know, factory or like a whole, you know, like a production studio. Yes. So which could bring more revenue to the country. Great idea. Right.

But some it's been paused now and people are like, why isn't it making? But I know exactly what it's paused because they're waiting to see how this AI thing plays out. Yeah, because let's be honest, green screens and shit. That might be like fax machines. Yeah, it might be like Morse code. Yeah, exactly. And then it happens like this. Well, you saw that Tyler Perry shut down the plans to build this enormous studio. He's going to build an $800 million production studio. And he saw sort of.

Tyler Perry. He's the guy who does my Ada movies. He's got a bunch of TV series. I thought he's that extreme makeover guy. Move. That guy. That was my shit. No, he's he plays a lady in a bunch of famous. Yeah, he's that. So anyway, point made a. Medea. That's right. Sorry. Point is obviously super successful, dude. And has this enormous. This is the unreal five engine. He has this enormous production company that he's about to build.

And he goes. He sees Sora. And he's like, what? You guys can do this now. You got to see how that plays out. Dude, it's going to play out real strange. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because what you see already. So this is the video game. This is hard. This looks pretty good. This is not as convincing as some of the other footage that I saw the nighttime footage or something about daytime footage. It looks a little clunky.

Or a little better. Well, there's more reflections. Yeah. I went to Redman's place for the wild and tried the AI for the first time in my life. Oh, nuts. Yeah. He was saying like he has a second life and they are happy with his girlfriend there and they're like living in a whole nother world there. Well, Redman's slightly insane.

I know, but the way he was describing to me, I imagine it's like the neo where I put the thing in and I'm happy now. But it was stock. It was literally PlayStation 2 graphics. I want to nerd out about electronics. It's always Redman. We always talk. We always talk about the newest phones or the newest this or this does that. That does this. He's just a tech. No nerd. Yeah. He loves that shit. And he's already giving up on this life because he knows VR is here.

That's such a red bad move. Every time I tell him to eat something healthy, you know what? Yeah, AI is taking over. I'm just going to get my brain teleported exactly. That's the ultimate leap, right? Imagine if they get to a point where they said we can download your brain into a computer, but you will cease to exist right here right now. And you just have to assume that it's whatever consciousness is in your head is your life.

And it's not just a faction of that consciousness being in a very particular state and time that consciousness being attached to this particular biological body in this particular place like what makes you you and if you take that shit out and stick it in a machine.

What kind of horrific existence is that what's screaming into the abyss unattached from a body but trapped trapped in a newly created computer dimension because you didn't you didn't get to go to heaven because you got trapped in a metal box. And maybe that's how the aliens contain souls. Maybe that's how they get them matrix was basically that toll.

That's the thing make get you to think that you can download your soul into a computer like what I'm going to live forever going to download my soul into a computer. And what all you're doing is you're so smart that you're stupid enough to think that technology is capable of recreating you as a whole not just your consciousness.

But what what if your fingernails have memories mother fucker what if your whole what if it all is a part of a system and disconnected from that system your soul is just like just separated from love forever. That was what I really liked in the matrix franchise remember when they got out of the matrix they went to Zion. There was that scene where they were fucking and then there was that scene where they were dancing and the whole thing.

Who's the fucking more morpheus was explaining that yeah you're not feeling the things with your physical body in this matrix world you know you're going through it's just the synapses are firing in the machine.

And I remember because I was like a teenager when I saw that movie I remember that scene when they were fucking and I was like oh shit see that's the thing if you download your brain into a system and then they came back the world was shitty remember how shitty yeah Zion looked like terrible no beach like us in 50 years and then they were eating.

Remember that food everything the body needs. Yeah but I remember when they did that dancing scene I remember that like like inspiring a thought where I'm like maybe even if there is a second there if I can AI world that comes yeah yeah yeah they'll be rebellion see that's what I'm so no question what's

what's what I love when people go is AI going to destroy stand-up comedy I always love to say that stand-up luckily is the art form that can comment on its own demise kind of you know like even if AI creates the perfect act the perfect haha laughs per minute right there's going to be you're going to be able to comment on how fuck that is you know yeah so 100% and then on top of that.

The what really what we're really doing is we're performing for live audiences so how's AI going to do that yeah absolutely there's a thing that happens when you see a singer on stage someone's got an incredible voice and you see him saying and that the voices echo or someone like Gary Clark Jr. is playing guitar where you're in the room while they're hitting those keys you like god damn.

And then there's the store it's not even only the technique and incredible voice it's also the history of his experience yeah I remember when I was like when I was like 19 I worked at a jazz bar didn't know shit about you I don't know shit about music I don't know how to play do you know I know play no play literally I don't know how to draw or play and it like my hands just don't work like that I tried guitar it just doesn't happen to just and they're like feel that nothing.

This connection nothing's happening interesting but I remember working at that bar there was like there's a famous Estonian guy who was performing like an unplugged he was like a rock star and he was performing an unplugged version on the weekends you know and technically he sounded amazing he was an amazing guitar player but he was a young guy maybe only five years older than me technically perfect from the traditional training the school he had all the things.

And for me that sounds amazing right but then I remember we started having because he was turning we had blues nights on Tuesdays and the owner would fly out from America like New Orleans these 65 year old black dudes that live a rough life you can see from their face from the way they move it's been a rough life and the way they would sing maybe technically it wouldn't be sound as clean.

But what you would feel because I was part ending and I would look at the audiences and I would see them also you feel it right you can't explain I do I don't know of course later when I got to be friends some musicians that they would explain they would be like no no no the other guy was doing the basic ABC DDD is doing a whole different shit right now.

So it's something that only the people that really know how to play recognize like stand up right but I feel it I think that's the case with everything man I really do I think that's the case with everything everything yeah especially art I think everything that it's a true form of expression you know even like chess I think games people play I think I think I think it exists in everything you know because I remember I even remember when there was remember peer to peer.

Before torrents here to peer. What did you guys have? I mesh what do we have what was that one? I'm all. I was the one that everybody used was the one that everybody used we start off an appster and then we went into a lot of more. Yeah now I remember the naps today. Metallica suit Napster you know then yeah yeah large all work was very upset yeah and so it was I had a lot of time. Paul Stanley from kiss on the podcast flat out saying those people are stealing they're stealing money.

You know my position it was very I was like okay a bomb just went off and you can either recognize you have a hole in the ship or you can go full steam ahead with the original plan and this motherfucker is going to sink. The moment music becomes a digital piece of information that can be uploaded to a hard drive the moment that happens it's over.

So if you don't realize that the war has been lost and devise some sort of monetization of streaming platform make it simpler quicker faster than anybody else's and then get it up there quick because like that's they should have done the moment Napster came out they should have hired like the best coders and so okay there is no way you're stopping this like we did the the damn broke waters coming through and record sales are gone.

Record sales just went away so quickly guys were making millions and millions of dollars from record sales and then they'd go on tour. And but even live touring was on a downslope because you didn't need to do that that much record sales was the back right that's why Madonna went back on tour I mean I don't know this but it's probably also wanted to say what's up for sure.

Let bitches know for sure still around for sure you know but there's a lot of bands that went back on tour for that very reason. Yeah for sure definitely yeah they're revenue dried up which is crazy that one of the biggest entertainment businesses in the world lost all of its sales revenue from recordings I mean I don't know it didn't lose all of it I'm sure some people still buy some of them but like the drop off must have been

crazy crazy because it was remember it was all like it was like you guys had not cassettes what did you guys have a track we had a track and then we had cassettes and then we had compact this yeah we only got cassettes then it was CDs so the format was always changing and then it was the

way and the Microsoft whatever format they had battle so there's always that battle of data then for a while like usb's were tried you know the sell small usb's yeah but then just the internet was like physical yeah in that crazy and not only that it's way better like the tube was just a bunch of discs that you had to get did you know that would be but then again that's a good example of how much things have changed is the fact that YouTube exists and that

YouTube is not a stack of discs you have to go to a library or a bookstore to get yeah YouTube just exist instantaneously but then again there was that magic of I feel lucky at least to have that childhood where I remember that my attention was actually not raped by technology that much but I had to actually look forward to

consuming something and work physical exertion to get it go to the DVD thing you would read the back you would look at it would put it's there's a little bit more maybe commitment to consumption I think it's going to be very interesting when we look back on human beings and I think we're in the

middle of it right now so we probably don't really objectively understand how much of an impact it's had on us because it sort of trickled in slowly with just regular cell phones and then like remember those side kicks people had the side kicks so you can send

with would go sideways remember we're like wow that's crazy that was like next level and then blackberries if you were fucking serious if you're really getting some shit done answering some emails you had a blackberry and then when the iPhone came out the whole game just

fucking flipped on its head and now all of a sudden everyone's connected to everyone everywhere and everyone's anxious and freaking out and I think that we grew up before that and I I'm older than you by far so I grew up way before how would you know

32 yeah so I'm 50 six I'm not almost 57 and you're also like days yeah those very important years that's the big the big transition years because it was a a series of factors that happened in my lifetime number one answering machines like what the fuck you can call someone and leave a

message I never had any would come home and your answer machine light would be like a little dog like if the red light was going on like oh so much I need someone loves me and you go listen to your messages and then it got to point where you could call your own

phone and get your answer machine to play you your messages that was next level shit okay crazy technology we couldn't believe it you got to see call or ID who's calling you and then you get to call them back star six nine what's up you know and then

VHS tapes come along maybe maybe not even and then it was kind of along the same soup because it all happened while I was in high school so while in high school there's probably answer machines before I was in high school but I was aware of them in high school then call or

ID and then VHS tapes all that happened so now all of a sudden you could just get stuff and play it anytime you wanted to so change like watching movies you can pause it if you had to take a leak the whole thing changed people started watching movies at home blockbuster became a giant

nobody would have imagined blockbusters kind of go by by nobody it was the thing you go to blockbuster on Friday night you see what's the fucking latest movies all great there's one left yeah we had like a video planet it was like the top five most making money companies of in the car they just they were they were on an ice cube they wanted ice cube and that's what I'm always wondering is what is the industry right now that doesn't even know I think there's a lot of all a lot of

I think there's I don't think it's a I think AI is going to fuck up this system that we have going for I think that's why that's part of the reason why there's a lot of scrambling and clamoring for power right now because I think people have a real

understanding at the highest level that it's only we only have so much more time before this AI thing becomes one of the most enormous aspects of society and the the power consumption that's going to need is astronomical it's great they're literally building

nuclear power plants for these fucking things and they're going full throttle and we're headed towards whatever this is and no one knows and I think that's one of the reasons why government to try to crack down on social media and trying to control it and stop people from saying

in the UK they're arresting people for saying certain things on they're trying to like stop this thing from overwhelming them and you can't it's going to overwhelm all of us it's not just get an overwhelmed government it's going to overwhelm civilization and it's going to happen in a

bunch of stages just like it happened with us where we got caller ID we got answering machines we got VHS tapes then we got computers and we got online and then we got 14 for then we got 56k and then you start seeing pictures show up like the download them nice and slow and then people are cable oh my god cable internet so people had cable internet we could just like my only pixels born used to have like how may how was glorious fuck I remember I had a point when I was like

like mom goes to store and you know how you ask which store so you know how much time you got in the break and I remember like checking often just halfway through video it's two dudes I just didn't the pixels it was just shit equality that's uncomfortable it was just very well did you know when they were both sucking each other's decks to someone yeah when there was a guy and I was like where is the girl yeah when is she coming in but it was like in a sauna in the dark and I saw

the dudes like a hog hanging but he had a nice butt and it all looked you're flashing the sauna by dude flat we only go naked you know that right oh in your country of course and if you have pants on that creepy and that's weird if you come with pants we would have an issue really because it's weird what are you hiding what's the thing my own exactly what's going on dude just staring at my deck I remember we all

started as dicks I've seen good luck with that like in the green room in the green room comedians were talking about how many dicks that seen in their lifetime and I remember they were laying saying like numbers pro I've seen how ten I've seen 16 to 22,000 dicks do you think that's healthy yeah

yeah it's normal you know normal shit just look at it dicks and then sometimes I remember in high school we all shower took a dose of what was one weird kid that would not shower with us and you make fun of them show me you know what are you what's going on why didn't you show us your dick you know that's fun and then sometimes the show shower would be a bit warm I knew it'd get a little bit of a vein going

there you know you get a little bit of a 25% dude whoo and then you're lathering it down yeah oh yeah trying to just fucking mentally just make it go away yeah naked dudes and shot and saunas is the odd thing I only feel comfortable when it's naked there was a I used to remember 24 hour fitness in

Woodland Hills California and the guy was the manager there's a cool guy I used to talk to him all the time I friend Eddie nice to live there and he was the former manager of the West Hollywood one so he said the

guy goes bro the West Hollywood 24 hour fitness he goes it was basically like a gay hookup spot that's all it was like these guys would just go ham just get after each other oh yeah and like you'd have to say hey don't do that but it's like you've got guys who want to fuck guys hanging out

all working out together getting sweaty you know like guy mentality you know like come on do it here yeah and they're doing it there and there's all guys that are gay there so they're like what are you gonna do and he's like dude it was crazy he goes I used to have to stop people from fucking in the sauna in the shower in the showers I'm sure they don't do that anymore folks yeah I'm sure that's all been cleaned up

but back then he was telling I can imagine 24 plate the fitness still existing and then this podcast coming out just 800 gay dudes really fuck they're like Joe Rogan can you stop saying this is the suck and fuck spot

make sure there is a make sure it's the right gym I don't want to I don't want to slander anyone but there is a 24 hour fitness right because I know there's another one there's another gym like that I just actually work out at a gym that was in a gay neighborhood I used to have a bit about it

I used to work out at Gold's gym on coal and it was in full on West Hollywood like super gay gym but it was really close to the studio where we film news radio so I just got a membership there so I'd get off work and I go left and I just go live with these like hungry gay dudes

these dudes were hungry man yeah they like look at you and they're friendly nobody fucked with me nobody like no unwanted attention or anything like that but I didn't take a lot of showers there I remember there was an old guy the gym is red middle Santa Monica Boulevard yeah it's close now

as it's good okay good good good it's closed okay so Gold's is the Gold's on Coals the one I'm talking about yeah that's the one that's not West Hollywood it's like East Hollywood yeah whatever it was it was gay but like men you know like big hairy muscular day dudes looking for more of that

so it's like man yeah it's like a wounded gazelle yeah I remember there was an older guy in my gym and that was the first time I also experienced where it's like it's an old guy you know I get fucking I'm not threatened right I'm not threatened but the look he had in his I started drinking AG1 about four years ago, and I love the way it makes it feel. AG1 is a research-backed daily health supplement that combines a high-quality multivitamin probiotic and more into one powerful scoop.

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That was the first time I started thinking, oh shit, that's how women feel. Plus, they're physical. Oh yeah! Like, that's like Brock Lesnar looking at you like. You know, that's like a, you know. Dude, I have had gay guys hit on me that I could kill, and it made me uncomfortable. That guy, like, it just gets to this like, hey, you know I'm not gay, so what are you doing? Exactly. Just trying to make me uncomfortable. Exactly. You're nervous.

And this old guy would give me looks, and I would just feel, and it was the first time in my life, I'm just like, dude, I'm jacked, I'm doing fucking MMA, but I'm feeling vulnerable. And then one point in the shower. This was like, you know what, showers have the booths, you know, the separation booths. And it was me and him. So, I go in the, the gym is empty. I go in the sauna, I'm alone, and it's a, it's a, it's a, you know, it's a stonial. So, I'm in the sauna.

I hear the shower door open, and in my head, I know. You know, in your head, you're like, there's other people at this gym, but let me bet. Cause I saw him looking at me. I go, let me bet. And you know it. He comes in, he sees one towel up, you know, so there's somebody in the sauna. Right. He comes to the sauna. I wait for him to go to the showers first, because I know if I go, the next booth over, this guy's joining. So, he goes into the corner, I picked the opposite corner.

And then at one point, I'm sharing, and it's just, it's that human thing, it's that human thing where, you feel something is watch, or something, attention, and I look through the, if I can, all the, all the separation booths, they had a small gap that you can see through all of them. And he's got shampoos, and he's going knuckles. Other end, I just see his one eye like this. And he's thick in his hand. He's not jacking off. He's just holding onto it. But something's going on.

He's getting ready. He's warming up. He's showing you that he's got a, he's got a dick. But then, and he had this luck. Serious. Yeah. Angry. And I'm leaning the gym, and I'm passing, and I know the administrator girls working at the gym. I passed them, and in my head, I'm thinking, I just got like sexually assaulted, actually. Right? That's not so. Don't be a baby. Yeah, exactly. See, no, he made you feel creepy. Maybe feel creepy. Yeah. So I feel, I can't keep this in.

I turn around, I go to the administrator, they go, hey, and we're laughing about it. I go, this fucking old guy, and then we wait. And he takes like 40 to 50 minutes to come out of that chart. See, what I think is, he's shamed full. Because, and he comes out, he's faces red. He has a hoodie on, and he's just ran out of the gym. Never came back. I think it just, that's that post nut. Yeah. You know? Well, he probably is embarrassed that he did it. Exactly.

Again, you know, it's probably one of those things. He's probably been kicked out of gyms before. Like, he's got an ex-strategy. Yeah. That's what he does. He's a shower jerker. Yeah. Those exist. That's why I don't like walking around naked. Okay? Like, if you were a woman, and you have your beautiful vagina, and their co-edged showers, would you be really comfortable washing your butthole and your vagina in front of a bunch of men? No, of course not. We are. We are. Okay, guys are real.

And if your little booty hole and your little dick is out, flopping around in front of them, to me as a person who doesn't want any of that, I would imagine that I would not enjoy watching someone stare at my Johnson, who wants a... Who wants a taken piece of chocolate? No, you know what I'm saying? Like, okay, we don't need to think about that. But I think we have just the culturally... Men think that way. That's why you can't have men in a room with naked girls. We did that.

In our culture, when I was a little kid, I saw a grown pussy all the time in the continent. This is why your country is so fucked up. You guys, you barely survived Viking wars, and then what's left over? You know, you're just a bunch of fucking maniacal crazy people showing each other's pussy's and dicks to each other. I feel like something should be sacred. That's what I'm saying. Like, I have no problem with being around gay guys, but I don't think I should be showing them my cock.

I don't think that's the right move. I also don't think ladies is comfortable as you are naked should be in a room full of men and just show your bare pussy. That seems problematic. It seems like it's going to cause issues for you. I wouldn't do that if I was you. If you want to wear bikini, great, everything's covered, which is like, how funny is that? The bikini thing is hilarious. You know, that there's this little tiny little piece of cloth, little tiny little piece of cloth.

You want to Instagram, they have that little little do-retail. And you see, all I don't see is the actual episode. But by the way, I like it. I'm not saying you shouldn't do it. Please don't stop wearing them. I think they're great. I'd like G-strings, girls with beautiful bodies expressing themselves wearing whatever they want to wear. I'm just saying it's so different than shorts. If a dude wears speedos, he's a freak, right? A dude in speedos, unless you're in your fucking country.

Exactly. But a dude in America, in speedos, he's a weirdo. Some dude in speedos, that guy's a weirdo. If you don't have goggles on, if you didn't come from a long ass swim, you fucking weirdo. Why are you wearing speedos? Everybody wears shorts. But ladies, that's per-crush- That's a steenia. Every step that every man I've ever seen growing up, I've seen their dick. That's inflammation in that human form. That is true. That is an inflamed body. That's an inflamed body. I wouldn't recommend that.

That's what makes the G-string funnier, right? The speedos, all of it funnier. But it's funny. The difference between, like, okay. Women's formal attire, right? So not even formal, but, like, say a woman who's a presenter on television, right? Skirt, no problem. Bear toes, open toe shoes, no problem at all. Have one of them ones at dangles. Off your foot a little bit, not all the way on. No one cares. The Gina curtain that covers about 12 inches from your waist down. That's fine. Boobs. All out.

Pressed out together and pushed up and forward. I love how that's so normal. No sleeves. No sleeves. Bear arms, much skin as you could possibly get without being naked. And to be dressed on television. And that's formal. Lipstick. Yeah. They're always hot. Painting nails, painted toenails. Yeah. Everything smooth and polished and shaved. That's fine. That's the news. This is totally fine. And that's formal. You know.

Imagine if men, imagine if men in gym shorts and tank tops were giving the news. How fucking stupid it would look. Imagine if, like, all of these people that you see on the news, like imagine Don Lemon and his box or shorts were tank top on, given the news. Yeah. Well, that's kind of what, like, address is. For sure. Just address with a skirt for those Fox News ladies. How is that different than me and, like, these shorts that I'm wearing right now in a tank top? How is it different?

It's just less threatening, maybe. And it's nice. It's nice. I don't want to discourage it. I just think how crazy is the difference between what men wear versus what women wear? We have a jacket on. Like, it's cold out. We have a fucking vest at a tie at a shirt. And all this shit and women can essentially be almost naked. Yeah. And you only assume they have underwear on. That might be a thrill if you don't have underwear on the news.

Well, if shit underwear on, maybe you'd be able to see it through the garments on the outside. That would be terrible. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Don't ruin the look. Run the look. No one's gonna look at my pussy. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Have you ever had a girl like that that you go to an eye club and they are not wearing underwear? I have not. I would imagine that's a wild lady. It's hot. Yes. I was one time dancing with a girl. And she told you? No. She grabbed my hand. We were holding.

And you know, walking through the dance floor, you know, how she's just fucking push people out of her way in the video. And then we get through the dance floor and she just pulls my arm around her. Oh, where is this? And it's soaking. Damn. She's a wild one. Wild one. Viking babies. That's what that is. That's what it is. She is the survivor. And she was strong out there. And she was strong out there. Of the massacres. And she would live in in Australia.

She had one of those jeeps that has one of those fucking things up front that kills the kangaroos, you know. Whoa. We saw one of those in San Antonio right in front of the truck. Yeah, yeah. The production trucks. You see that fucking crazy thing that got out. Super tall over the top. Oh, because they're big. Because they're big. Yeah, and it looks mad, Max. It looks like I'm a fun type of girl. It looks crazy and she had that jeep, she had like fourons.

And then the balls hanging from the back, you know, the soft balls that they did in the back. They had that and she was just a fucking wild one. Wow. And it blew me in a kangaroo shield in the front of her vehicle. Yeah, yeah. And this was like when I visited Australia and in my head I was a kangaroos and like cutie petudies. But when you go to Australia, they'll tell them like we hate them. Because they just keep jumping in front of cars. Well, they're everywhere. They're fucking everywhere.

They have a lot of kangaroos. It's a weird animal, man. It's marsupial. Like so strange. They have a pouch that keeps their babies in their skin. How they develop a backpack. It is the insanest evolutionary pouch. A little pouch. A bag. How does that... I mean, how does nature make you get a bag? It's so crazy. It's like one of the... Out of all the animals. So like where the fuck did that come from? Like if you look at a deer and then you look at a elk, you go, oh, I kind of see.

You look at a moose, you look at a caribou, you're like, oh, I'm kind of see. And they're like, what's that? And why is it only in this one spot? And when does it jump like... Yo, is that an alien? What is that thing? Yeah. Why did it develop on Australia and nowhere else? What the fuck is that thing? And how come there's nothing that can kill it? And how come you stand on your tail and do like a stevo kick? Yeah. And do like a stevo kick. They kick your heart.

Yeah. And they just like, fuck you up, they disembowel people, man. You gotta be really careful with those fuckers. Oh, and they're... They will die from the big ones. Are the big ones the gray ones? Are the gray ones the big ones or the red ones? And then he, Eddie, iftwin over there. He said he was walking through a backyard and there was like a six-foot tall kangaroo. Jesus, fuck you. He thought it was fake. He thought it was fake. He didn't know what it was.

And his friend was screaming at him. Get, turn around. Get the fuck away from it. Jesus Christ. The red kangaroo. That's the big one. Yeah. It's super, that sounds like a fucking alien too. 100 pounds. So you gotta think, a hundred pound thing that could run 43 miles an hour. And it could probably strangle you. Like those ones that are jacked. You ever see them on the... Yeah, of course. Like choke out dogs and shit. Look at the fucking muscles and that thing. Of course, dude.

What a freaky animal to have all over the place. But it just looks. Look at that one. I'll see you in all those pictures, by the way. That's one that went to my gym. That's gold. Look at that, dude. I did it. I did it. This guy. Yeah, he's just chilling. Flanting giant muscles. Look at the fucking guns on that. Let's see what I play up. You imagine getting a scratching match with that thing with this giant claws? No, no, you're done. I mean, but they're fuck you up, man. They're dangerous.

And they're all over the place. But that was my question. Like, what was supposed to be killing them? Because there's no like infestations of wild animals like that. Unless something disrupts the ecosystem. Huh. You know, because usually there's a balance, right? Like, there's always going to be a balance between wolves and antelope and or wolves and bears, wolves and deer. Because they're going to figure out who wins.

And if the wolves kill off too many of the deer, then their population's going to drop. They're going to run out of food. And there's going to be like some sort of consequences. And then their population drops down. And then the deer population comes back a little bit. Nature has a way of balancing itself out in most environments until human beings step in. And so fucking with things.

So my question is like, what happened over in Australia that that thing that one crazy animal becomes like hordes of them, swarms of them? Like, you've seen, show some of those videos of the swarms of kangaroos just running. So these people are in their car and you see just like, I don't even know what the number is. They're, yeah, and they're fast. But it's also like why are there so many of them in any environment where there's something like this? There'd be something bigger that eats it.

In every environment, there'd be a bear. There'd be something. I guess Australia has crocodiles, but I don't think they're doing such a good job of killing these things. Yeah, initial predators are just like dog like animals. Oh, maybe the thylacene. What the fuck is that? Okay, the Tasmanian tiger that went extinct. That's a native of Australia as well that they have that in Australia. But they should have to shoot so many kangaroos now. Where's that, Jamie?

Tasmanian wolf in a dingo and a wedged tailed eagle. Okay, so the humans probably killed all those animals. The humans probably killed all the dingoes. What was the other animal? Wedged tailed eagle. Makes sense. That's probably exactly what it is. So the thylacene was Australia though, right? This says Tasmanian. I just typed in marsupial natural predators and Tasmanian wolf is the first one listed. Thylacene? Tasmanian wolf. Yeah, but the thylacene, the Tasmanian tiger.

And then yes, it's Tasmanian tiger before they were extinct and also humans. Was that ever in Australia? Am I making that up? I feel like that's in Australia. I mean, it definitely wasn't the movies as far as that. Right. That movie with... There's a good movie about a guy who goes to kill it because they're trying to find it. The last thylacene. What the fuck is it? William DeFoe. It's good movie. So it is an Australian. Right. So there was that thing. You ever seen one? They're freaky looking.

Show the video of the last thylacene. I thought no one was living thylacene. That's a thylacene. Look at the mouth on that fucking thing. Look how big it's mouth is. Isn't that insane? It's like a horror movie. Look at this fucking mouth. Have you saw that thing open and it's face at you? It's a dog with a stripe and shit. Yeah. It looks like a tiger. It's a weird marsupial. A rat photo of the last. I'm pretty sure they're marsupial as well. So they think that thing might be still alive.

There might be limited numbers of them. Well, this isn't a task. That's not real. Oh, this is in color. Oh, they colorized it. Because I think the film is from like the 1930s. But this is the last one. And look, they have it in a fucking box, man. Oh, God, zoos creep me out. We just get so comfortable with torturing some animals mentally. Well, that's last one, man. I understand. But can you bitches afford a larger piece of land? God damn it. This concrete fucking thing.

That's crazy. You're at the last of these things alive and you make it suffer in a small box with no pillow. There's not a big zoo guy either. I hate those. Even as a kid, I remember, like, I just didn't. Yeah. I remember like, yeah, even just seeing, I remember seeing like a hippo. In a zoo. And all he has is a small, it's a mastonean zoo too. Yeah. And it's a small, like just a dribble of water on his head. And he would just, just because they're all drugged out. And they would just do this.

Like just, because also, you know, the animal doesn't know. Dude, I was in Massachusetts once and I was on my way home from a, this one else driving limos. And I was coming down this highway and I saw this really rinky, dink zoo. And I was like, I think I was coming from New Hampshire. I don't really remember. But I remember it was a long drive and I had the rest of the day off. So I said, fuck it. I'm going to go in this zoo and see what the fuck is going on in this zoo.

Just for fun, Z's, because I was out there. And I saw this polar bear. I'll never forget this dude. Just pacing. Just pacing. Yeah, they're just pacing. And I was like, oh my God, he's in hell. It's a horrible thing to watch, man. It's a horrible thing to watch. Because like, that's a sentient being that's experiencing a very bizarre and prolonged suffering and a disconnection from it's kind. There's no other bear with it. It's just by itself, by itself, and this cement thing.

And while people stare at it, something that would never happen in the world. And I was like, he doesn't know what the fuck is happening. Because it's the wrong climate. And he's like, why is Mike shit all so shitty? But he doesn't even know that he's not totally wrong. He probably is happy and Boston for like five months a year or four months a year. But even then it's probably not cold enough for him. I mean, those fuckers, they're used to living in places where there's nothing but ice.

But it's also like that thing of like they say that, oh yeah, but if you let him go, he would die. But that's also because you just, that's the main thing. Well, you shouldn't have him in the first place. That's the matrix, the real world thing again, that animals also will have that thing where if they're in the wild, I'm sure it's exactly like being in that matrix where in the zoo, yeah, you have all your food, all the stimulus, you're alive. Yeah. But it's that you gotta get that stimulus.

You're created to struggle to hunt to fucking right. Yeah. Which is the, I mean, there's a lot of similarities in human beings. Absolutely. There's a lot of people that are zoo-ing. It's like when you go to nature. Yeah. Like in Austin, because I do so much comedy, I'm also, I mean, I'm also, I'm into cycling now. And sometimes I'll cycle out of the city, but every two weeks I have enough energy to do like a long cycle.

And when I get to complete, that's why I love Estonia too, that it's silence in the woods that you have. And you just feel, because that's where for thousands of years we've been there. You know, that's where we've been in that silence with no, and then you just feel rejuvenated immediately. You know, I love the sea, I love the ocean, I love woods, I've always been a pig. And that's, that's the same feeling you get, you know. It's just you feel it in your blood. You know, something's fucking...

Yeah, you're alive. It's uncomfortable, but it's... Yeah. Of course I want to be on Twitter in my farting and ordering Uber Eats. Of course I want to do that. That's the, that's the matrix. That's the zoo. That's the matrix. It's the human zoo animal. And of course, outside, it's fucking mosquito. There's a guy, there's whatever, you know, there's fucking, you hear some fucking animal, you don't know. I'm scared of fucking spiders, everything. That's...

The bomb goes off, you hear the first recoil. Yeah. Yeah. You're out there when you hear it. Yeah. Bucco. And your feet start vibrating. Yeah. And they took Chicago. Oh, boom. Jesus Christ. Yeah. So that's what we have to look forward to. The way this fucking goofy place is being run. Uh-huh. There, pushing us closer and closer to like something really... So my luck that as soon as I come to America, the fucking country collapses, huh?

It's not collapsing, but boy, it's in a weird state of this strange struggle where people kind of forgot we're all supposed to be united. And that's our strength. And being divided, the way we're being divided, especially being divided by bullshit. You know, like, you shouldn't be allowed to lie. And you shouldn't be allowed to lie in a campaign ad. And you shouldn't be allowed to use CGI to make your crowds look bigger. Like, you shouldn't be allowed...

You shouldn't be allowed to do any of these things. And we're allowing it. And it's having this tremendous impact on the way people see the news. The news is so filtered. And everything in this country that's in mainstream news, it's... You have to follow a certain set of rules in order to be able to get information out.

And if you want to talk about the campaigns, and if you want to talk about the war, and if you want to talk about what's going on in Ukraine, and what's going on in God's, you have to have like very specific narratives. And you're not allowed to deviate from that at all. And then that's what's giving you the news. And so we're all like, what the fuck is real? So anytime anything happens, even when the president gets shot, we're like, was that even real?

Like we don't think anything's real anymore. And that's what primes us for the matrix. When no one knows what anything's real anymore, it's so much easier. Just slide right in, Ari. Slide right in, Ari. Ah, we're in. Fuck the world, dude. I'm in a secure apartment complex. It's level five security. There's bank fault doors that lock to make sure the marauders don't get in while you're connected. And you can just be free in this other world and ride around your dragon on Pandora.

You know, you're fucking that blue lady with the hair. We have everything connected hairs with the dragon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's what's going to happen. And we're going to give into it because we're making this world such a goddamn mess by not paying attention to what we're doing. Not paying attention to the really important things. Like don't let corporations tell you what's true. They're not going to tell you what's true if they don't have to.

If they get away with not telling you if they make more money, they don't tell you, you can't have that. That's how you get your news. You can't have that because it's just too easy to manipulate. So easy to manipulate. You know, insider's trading is illegal, but that's legal. That's legal. You can manipulate the news. Like what? You can have certain companies can advertise on the news and then you'll never criticize those companies. That seems weird. Yes, it's weird.

Yes, somebody was explaining how is it crazy that how how any politician that wants to get elected never mentions tobacco alcohol like never the right because of a back. Yeah, you can't mention that shit, which is crazy. You can kind of mention cigarettes because people are so stupid, they're going to smoke them anyway. It's just like you can kind of get away with it. We should cigarettes should terrible no one should smoke.

Yeah. Yeah. So as they can figure out like a spray, like an inhaler, they're completely clear. Excuse me. Yeah, a lot does a long time ago, which is weird. That load what cigarette ads or like commercials on TV and radio. Do they still have money on the internet? We haven't had tobacco or alcohol commercials for like 10 years now. Yeah, there's only been magazines. And then your cigarette packs are so cool.

It's like a throwback to my childhood because it's like the red beautiful marble design in Europe and Australia. And they have like a cancer on it. And you have a photo of the dead baby. Oh, all the boys and shit. Dead baby. Primature babies. Long, black, long. I'd like to see what else those people were doing. 100%. 100%. 100%. They're blaming it on cigarettes. That guy is probably all fucked up in a lot of different ways. Yeah, 100%.

But you mean you can criticize tobacco and no one will be like, Karen's, because people are going to keep smoking. As long as it's legal. It's like alcohol. People are not going to stop drinking. Shut up. They're not going to. They want to drink. They're having an hour. Friends have a cocktail, clink, salutes. Absolutely. You know, congratulations. Yeah, clink glasses. They're not, people like doing that. They're not going to stop. And part of the, talk all the shit.

You're part of the excitement of the clink is the fact that it's bad. A little bit. Come on. A little bit. That's the part of the fun. Yeah, it's part of the fun. A little bit. Yeah, absolutely. It's a little bit of, let's have fun. Yeah. And you know, it's a good feeling when you're with friends and you have a couple of cocktails and you laugh and you're asked off like, it's a good feeling. But you shouldn't do it every goddamn day. It shouldn't be your whole life.

You shouldn't be drinking 12 hours a day every day. But that's why it's so exciting is that life is not infinite and you do take those small risks and that's what's, that's what's so exciting. Also, people that do drink 20 hours a day, those people in, in your life, in your journey, those people are examples where you can learn something without happening to actually do it yourself.

Like you don't have to be coming out college and ruin your life, but you can see someone do it and say, okay, my step that was a bad one. Bad. One of those where in the mornings, he's, because your system is, you know, your system is done in the mornings in the bathroom, he would take two to three hours of like sheeding, the sheeding and then just heaving, you know, because your body is just projecting all this poison. Oh God. See him throw up every day.

Oh my God. And then there's no throw up left, but it's just the heaving. And then put on a suit, put on a suit, blow it as fuck, put on a suit, all happy puppy, survive for eight hours. And then he would, I remember he would come home and as a child, he would come home and he would be in the car and just sit there in his car. And I would seem sit there and as a child, yeah, as a child, you're like, oh, hey, he's just thinking a moment, maybe you don't understand that this guy is barely keeping.

Yeah, because he's about to go down the rabbit and he's fighting the rabbit hole every day. Yeah, he's just like, I don't want to. And then if you're drinking all the time, you're always small about small about all the time. Get him quick. Like little airline ones. Yeah. And the his hands, you know, on the sobriety starts coming. Ooh, sketchy disease. It was bad, it was bad, yeah, and but as a child, you're like, oh my god, I never want to do that.

But when you start getting goals, you ever happy when he was drunk? There was a tipping point. When did we become happy? No, it was like the first drink is always happy because your addiction is giving you all green lights. Right. When you have an addiction, the first hit of that substance, all your body is saying is less. It's all green lights, baby. This is the night. This is the night. Yes. Let's fucking go. Because it's your addiction. It's your addiction. Yeah, let's fucking rock and roll.

But then, you know, as a child growing up in that environment, there would always be that point where you see him on the couch and that look. You know, an alcoholic's look is, you know, the detachment of the soul. Yeah. It's dangerous. It's then it's time for you to go to your room, you know, and just fucking hang out there and wait for the storm to pass, you know. Yeah. And it's like, and it was like, yeah, there was always that point of like, it's such a creepy fucking.

And when you're a child, you're like, oh, don't do that. But when you start getting older, you also feel like, start feeling empathetic of like, you know, I don't know the life he lived as well. You know, substance abuse always works with trauma really well. They go hand-to-hand. So, this guy's childhood, you know, the more I try. Which is true. Which is true. Because I hated him. I hated fucking him. He was, you know, drinking heavily. It also could be like family influence.

Like, sometimes you've found out later. That's what I found out later that he was in a, I thought I'm in a dark spot when he's home, you know. I took friends that became alcoholics that didn't necessarily have childhood trauma as much as they had childhood influence. And then friends that kind of all went down a bad road. And they were all like doing hard drugs and drinking a lot. Oh, yeah.

You know, it just becomes a part of the culture of your little community if you're hanging with a group of people that just like get fucked up all the time. Yeah. I've seen it suck good people in. Like, everybody wants to say that there's like some sort of a reason why you get sucked into it. I have had friends that have nothing wrong in their life. They're happy people and they take oxies and they don't want to stop taking them. Cheers. They get injured. Something happens. They take them.

They don't want to stop. They feel good. They don't want to stop. And essentially, oxycodone, we learned this recently, is what Hitler was taking during the war. That's what he did. They were giving him a form of oxycodone. That's these videos. We had this gentleman on the podcast here the day that Moses named again. Norman Oler, books on the right in front of you. Book right here. Oh, here it is. Thank you.

Norman. Sorry, Norman. Norman Oler. This is all about Hitler's drug use during World War II. But he was talking about that video and he didn't think that video was real. I was like, why do you think that? Because he had a direct like a line of history between when Hitler gets introduced to this one doctor and the drugs this doctor is giving him. And that's the Olympic Games one. Yeah. So that's 36 that should be before all that stuff happened in his mind.

But I'm up with the opinion of that Hitler. If you can get him to go on oxycodone a year from now, he's probably trying some shit that he didn't tell you about. That's what I would imagine. So the doctor, he's getting notes from the doctor who treated Hitler. How the fuck do we know how honest Hitler was with that doctor? He was probably already taking a bunch of shit. They already knew this stuff was real.

And when you're a leader, you don't want any of that information out there, you know, that you're a fucking. Also, there was zero stigma when they first created math. Oh, when there are, yeah, and he, Norman was showing us this, what was it called, pervading? Was that the right name? So they had a literal brand of methamphetamine that they would sell in insurgent. There's those commercials, you know, those German commercials have seen those. It's fucking crazy. They were taking math from me.

They were taking a load dose of meth and they were given into the soldier. So his, this blitz book is insane because it's a story about how the Nazis were jacked up on meth and they just went all the way through Poland in three days. And that they just never, they never slept. They just kept marching. I used to have a bit that, you know, while Germany's what I think with meth you guys in America were testing with LSD. And I would have loved to see those two armies meet.

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So you had record of them doing that with LSD. But meth is the perfect wardrobe. If you think of it, you just fucking get amped up and jump into a ditch with a bayonet. Right. You're gonna go, you need some meth to have a bayonet. 100%. That's the right drug for a good soldier. Yeah. Have to front of the line. And they had different dosages for different people. So if someone's in a tank, they get the most, they get the most meth.

Because they're fucking that's fucking cow. That's the front of the line. You know, the other ones are going to get attacked first. They have to be the most meth. Who will you put on LSD, the guy who plans the attack or something? Do you know that it was at a rack or Afghanistan were soldiers who listened to like death metal while they were operating tanks.

If you see, if you're seeing videos of dudes like operating from inside of tanks, it's death metal. That's going to be the craziest job the world has ever known. You're in a giant metal box. And you're moving it towards war. And you hope in that thing doesn't break. You hope it doesn't break and leave you out there. You're hoping that when it gets shot at or who knows the transmission fails. And then you're out there in enemy territory while they're shooting missiles at you.

I've always thought because the Germans were the first ones with a tank with a Panzer. Right? That was correct, right? I don't know. I think so. I think so. And I remember always thinking like imagine like being like a Russian Russian soldier or something and you're like a bolt action rifle. And you see that fucking. But you hear it. You don't even know what the fuck that is. Yeah. And you're like a car. But then you see and do that.

Feel clunk. Nothing. Clunk. Clunk. Clunk. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. A tank. A tank. What an insane idea. You see what the scene is from all part of the western France. Oh, pretty fucking badass. Yeah, you're in time to watch it because we're doing a podcast. But yeah, yeah, oh exactly. The first time they see the tank. Look at this. Fuck. Look at this. Imagine. You can't stop. It's literally like seeing a transformer right now. Like if you would see.

This is not. And nobody told you. Right. No, nobody. I watch it. It's an amazing movie. I heard it's awesome. I heard it's a new one. Right? Yes. Different from the book slightly, but it's still a sad story. Yeah. Well, I'm sure there's no happy war movies. Yeah. That's a no movies. Some American ones are fucking awesome. Black, black, hot, down, jarhead. Those are all fucking amazing. The pink mist missing in action. I don't know.

Chuck. Really? Yeah. That's what that's bringing people back. The American made made. The Kicks and the jungle with cowboy boots on America movies made war seem to cool. It's shit. I'm not always saving private Ryan certainly didn't. Yeah. Fair. That was like it's full metal jacket certainly didn't. Yeah. That's my favorite. That is a good watch that all the war movies. I was too young when I saw.

Clips down. There here is this is missing an action. Chuck. He's right around on an inflatable. This is the American. I got a guy. Yeah. They're all shootin' out of bitch. You can't hit him. He's Chuck. No, and so they just spit. I love that they took both and they're shooting at a boat that nothing happens. It's a rubber boat. They can't even come close to hit them.

And then they go chase after him. Guess what's going to happen? Well, I'll tell you right now Chuck. No, it's going to fuck them up because he's Chuck. No, he's so fun. Oh my god. He's like all. What the fuck is she? Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Bitch, you didn't get Chuck. These movies are amazing. Amazing. They're amazing because they're almost like you're watching a cartoon.

But then you can get full metal jacket, which is that's an intense. That's a totally different experience. That's war I think in a much more realistic light. For sure. What those people experienced? Yeah, for sure. Can you imagine being a fucking kid back in the 60s when you didn't really have any way of knowing what the fuck was actually going on?

And also, yeah, they're saying that the fucking end of the world's coming and you're the last frontier. You have no way to check it. And even questioning it would be in bad taste. Yeah, you're not supposed to and the people are labeled traders like Muhammad Ali. That is true. They send you over there. The American truth. Oh, yeah, that's a crazy. I saw this too young. I saw this too young because I didn't quite get it. You know, you should watch it again.

Yeah, I have to fucking great fucking dark. I remember that scene when he was in the bathroom before he shot himself in the face with anybody's toe through the fucking rifle. Yeah. That is true that the American troops were much more because you've never been invaded. So at least our trauma that we heard from grandfather's and shit with swallows about like it was almost a heroic thing of standing up for your country.

Whereas American maybe it's kind of like, why are you going there? You know, and that trauma must be bad when you're coming back because they told you that it's you're the fucking you have to save the world basically. Well, they were telling them that they had to fight the communists. Right. And they told them that the communist North Korea had attacked a boat, the American boat that never happened. The Gulf of Tonkin incident.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's made up this story. So they made up this propaganda bullshit and they created a false flag and through that they they justified us going into war and it went on for a long fucking time and it didn't make any sense. And no one today thinks it made any sense. No one today thinks it makes a good idea or it was a good idea.

Unless you're some insane war lover. Anybody look at Vietnam, old Vietnam, overalls, and that positive because here's what we got out of Vietnam. This is what this what came out of that war. Okay. First of all, the culture shifted. This is how it needed to happen. Like you couldn't even come up with justifications.

Why would we go into this country and fire bomb them and spray agent orange and who knows how many people come home with fucking cancer because you used a deforestation technique that's like this horrific chemical it kills people.

Crazy. It's nuts. It's nuts and they did it because people back then didn't have any access to information. There was no way to know. There was no exposés showing that you know this is not a real attack. There's no reason for us to be over there. There's other things involved here that's causing people to want to send us troops to Vietnam and probably none of them good for you.

Like you really as a United States citizen. That's right. Yeah. That's from saying best served the world be best served you right here. 100% 100% you need to go over there and fire bomb a village because someone told you to you don't need to go over there and fucking climb into a tunnel and go and try to fight some Viet Cong guy and there this is insane. Why are you there makes no sense. But they tricked people and they did it for a long-ass time. It went on for years.

And so the fact that they can still pull it off today. That they can still I mean who knows today like what we're going to look back on like we look at the Gulf of Tonka incident or what we're going to look back on and realize that it had been manipulated.

So the event was real but the event was caused by a series of moves behind the scenes to ensure that war takes place and there's so much complication when it comes to these things because there's so much money being thrown around. Yeah. And then at least today we have other outlets for information at least today you can kind of get a sense of how things are true or not true based on really intelligent people that you know that are online that are talking about them.

And you go no it's actually this like with that female boxer like that was a big one right wherever it's like okay what is going on. Yeah is that a female is that a male is that someone has X Y chromosome. I saw that information that it was the X Y thing early but it was just the Levine of that it's a man just came a bit too strong because the both information came out pretty much I would in my sources I would say I saw similar time where I was like oh it's a man.

But then you just open another scroll a bit more and then you see the X Y chromosome thingy and then you're like okay but just the Levine of that it's a dude came on a bit strong. Will the X Y comes on his male. Yeah yeah it's that male yeah but the definition of like was because I think the first the first reaction was that it's a man transitioning to a woman right. That's what people thought initially and then they realized no this is someone who has a genetic issue.

But the the there was another there's a boxing committee that had a I'm going to send you this Jamie because this kind of makes it all make like a little bit more sense. But it was essentially that there's there's different versions of these kinds of diseases that people have and depending on those versions some of them all they're just they're they go through male puberty and they have male frames and their male.

But when they're born they have like significant issues okay so here it is I found it and I'll send it to Jamie but it's European vice president of the world boxing organization has come forward to confirm that Algerian boxer and main cleaf is male. This person said he warned the Olympic committee about several male boxers in the women's category but nothing was done. Who knows you know I don't I don't have any direct information about whether that is a male or female.

Let's just say that one two so apps and one she's not bad but also that person's lost before yeah to female boxers but here's the thing but that doesn't that doesn't mean that there's a lot of girls out there boys that can kick your ass.

Exactly there are you know get in the ring with a man anunas good luck pitch. She'll fuck you up and she's a woman right there's women that are really really good and this person might not be that good but it seems like they went through male puberty which should exclude you from competing as a woman.

They look male they have male frame they have x y chromosome like you're being told that you're a big it for looking at very obvious what we we have always considered biological representations right. So like what is what is it in biology when something is a male human being. Yeah do they have an x x chromosome or do they have an x y they say well they have an x y well we know that but saying that makes you a big it which is in sale.

As a sport as a sports commissioner that's very black and white for me at least a chromosome issue you know. Well that's what the enhanced games as a human I do feel in empathetic towards her you know as it's just it's a bit of a pickle. But I don't necessarily know that's a her this is the problem what they're saying it's a male with a sexually some developmental disease that they or developmental issues from genetic anomaly something that happens.

But they're going they have testes and they go through male puberty and they don't have the ability to get pregnant yeah I don't even know if they have ovaries. Do they have ovaries. I don't think they have x I'm reading a version that CBS sports put out where they talk to the international Olympics committee and the.

I B.A. they're saying this test or not legitimate test yeah they were I was going to bring this up to they were saying that some people think that it's because the Soviets did them they don't trust them so the international Olympic committee spokesperson Mark Adams said in a press conference on Sunday the test themselves the process of the test and the ad hoc nature of the test are not legitimate the testing the method of the testing the idea of the testing which happened kind of overnight none of it is legitimate and this does not deserve any response okay.

That's by saying it's not legitimate is a very weird thing I I had read it came up after this event where she beat an undefeated boxer and then people got right right right but did this person let's Google this then did this person this boxer did they take a chromosome test. That you see that article this article says that that originally right here the originally the test was kept confidential.

Did not go on did not undergo a testosterone examination but were subject to a separate and recognized test whereby the specifics remain confidential then the next day or like Monday I don't know how many days later that was then they came out and said something different.

The testing show they have a high level of testosterone cremble have said like men they have men's level of testosterone cannot go further in our investigation whether they were born like men or some changes intervene at the later stages and then that's where the I.o.c. said what you read earlier this test are not legitimate right but they're not saying why they're not legitimate this is what gives me pause when they just keep saying it's not legitimate the ad hoc nature the test are not legitimate you have to say when you're talking about a scientific.

Test you there's some tests it's repeatable right so if you can test for X Y chromosome versus X X chromosome do it tell me what the results are if you can test for testosterone do it tell me what the results are and if one says male says X Y and the other one says high levels of testosterone that's not a woman.

Sports wise yeah sports wise yeah that one to slap with the shoulders it's also it's like what are we doing like why do we have women sports in the first place if you let I mean you could say that some people have a genomic anomaly like that woman she had X X Y right she was like a legitimate her maferite I believe.

Test testosterone levels not X Y chromosome which is the pattern typically seen in man are the key criteria of eligibility in Olympic events where the sports governing body has framed in a group rules that's interesting but it's the same thing with with when when like totally I mean genetical women start doing steroids that's the whole thing about

sports is the big problem I remember like what they do it they change their from American accusations but Chris cyborg I remember was a was a big thing in strike force where it was the first time I saw where I was like this is a big loophole in women sports right now especially combat sports because it's about doing actually physical damage 100% it's very visibly seen the difference it's very in other sports where it's reaction time and whatever

10 is so whatever you might make the you might make the argument of like just get better at the technique you know but in combat it's very visibly because it's not only about the body and whatever it's literally people who are on the testosterone has been proven harder to KO because you just ramped up yeah you're the testosterone it's literally like the quote particle in the sense of fucking sports

they've stopped some fighters from fighting because they tested so hot absolutely they're like get out of here this fucking guys yeah I remember it was who failed I remember was jail son and Alistair over him they used to fail tests where it was like like the number it's like there's the rage of 18 men coming got you right now well that's V-Torbell for this prime right

so the TRT V-Torred is I only could beat in Brazil I want to be well sure I got demon he would come at you like a demon yeah he would have those videos where he was like an elliptical machine and he was the thing about this to it's like if they're saying they're testing for testosterone levels how often are you doing that because guess what it's easy to make your

testosterone levels crash really easy well the whole thing is always that it's that the test things yeah you can it's like it's like pyro thing yeah they're always a step ahead they're always even all you have to do to kill your testosterone levels are drink alcohol yeah shitty food and just fucking live in the mountains of daggistan and hope the connection flight is a bit late that's

very interesting that you went to a training camp yeah they're the best wrestlers huh very interesting well they are the best wrestlers the true pros act yeah so is that what you're saying yeah yeah well I would imagine that if they knew for a fact that you couldn't get to the North

pole to do a drug test yeah they'd be a fucking M. M. A. K. F. on the North Pole yeah also I went to a camp in Thailand back in the day and I remember over there it was like not even a secret really I go to the camp and it's like American fighters would be there

and everybody would know that that's why they're doing not everybody would know they'll be like fucking who you feel like if handing out shots at a bar who wants to syringe you know what are we doing and they're not there's not to these are all retards that are just smoking joints and sparring there's nobody doing like we need to know like now fucking give me what you got and of these people like pros semi pro you know you live in a Honda Civic and you every once in a while you move back to your

parents place because it's because it's a hard fighting is really hard but it's hard dude so you this is so people don't know you you when did you start doing stand-up comedy and when we were you fighting at the same time you do and stand-up comedy there's a transition period and I started okay so this is my martial arts history of course as I mentioned had a stepdad who was fucking crazy so there was that insecurity you know there's that

thing of like I'm not saying that having a father who's maybe violent towards your mother is a bit better but I think there's a bit of a more evolutionary connection that a family dynamic can have whereas if you're like a 12 to 13 14 year old boy and a new guy you're supposed to be the man of the house even though you're a child right here support your it's my sister and my mother and it's our dynamic

and a new guy moves in and this retard is now and he's not called yeah so that creates obviously I didn't secure it sadness in the house yeah tension no I did I would still not my mom rift city my mom has always been rift city she was she was always having fun throughout all the darkness in our life we had a we had a rough we had some rough periods you know but in my house it's always been fun city I would

always it's always been my humor I would literally do I would have points where it's me and my mother on a fucking because we would let's leave the house during the night you know which is walk towards and my sister was a bit older so she moved out so we would just walk in the night towards the direction and she would try to call all her friends were to stay for the night because this ape is fucking going bananas back home

and there would be we would be on the sidewalk you know so what did you start out with which was the first martial art and the next day I would go to school and still be fucking happy puppy just because I don't know that was how we we came up right so then there was this program called them kick ass

martial arts and it was Chris Crudelli this guy sold patch British guy he would travel the world and this was at a point where pride and UFC were happening but in traditional martial arts were still holding on Wing Chun was holding on Ike Do was holding on Kung Fu was kind of it was kind of going away you know but Chris Crudelli had a program where he would travel the world and study these ancient there's this like dimmock

where it's like I and seven years later you die of cancer you know all that shit and as a kid I'm like oh that's all I got to do moved to Korea for two weeks study this fucking death touch and just come back and kill

somebody you know yeah but then I remember I saw UFC I saw a few pride vites from fator Emilie Nenko because he was Russian he was a big prominent figure in the martial arts community but I remember I saw Liotto Machida show gun the first one and in my head because Machida looked like a traditional

martial artist you know because he was aphasian or something you know so in my head I'm like why doesn't he do the why don't these people do that Chris Crudelli shit you know fucking neutralize your opponent to a wrist lock then I start watching pride van der Leysilva he stomping people holding on to the ropes stomping and in my head I'm a why doesn't he do the dimmock you know hi and you fucking so then I was maybe 15, 16 late

late when I was doing gymnastics and I was doing a bit of weightlifting and I saw dudes like wrestling you know and I started to think like Rekko Roman and I saw them like sup like jack guys in fucking just suplexing each other and that's where the wheels start turning of life dude you're not gonna wrist lock this guy you're not gonna you know right I'm not gonna death touch this guy it's gonna run through me

so I joined a gym SPG subsidiary gym Prit Michelson shout out my man he was a great mentor and a father figure at that time for me and I joined his gym and and it was jujitsu and we did everything together you know and I had my first amateur fight like five months into into like doing it that's crazy that's crazy did you know did they make sure the person fought didn't have a lot of experience either yes but he was like 34 oh no that's not fair and he went to war he was like a former military

stare that stood out a tank Jesus Christ yeah but you still I'm a amateur rules but still MMA gloves fucking heymaker city you know right was he good yeah he choked me just keep it in time I didn't have I didn't have I tried to tap I was too late but yeah I would not recommend that I would not recommend you get your ass kicked by someone who has a lot more experience at five months in I would I always think you got to give I think we were the same experience in martial arts but he was a man

dude I'm a suburban boy was either let me tell you something if he got to be how old 30 something and he went to war that dude's had training yeah I mean it's not just five months of training yeah yeah yeah the fact listen that kind of guy is done a little bit here a little bit there

that kind of guy probably boxed a little when he was younger did a little karate we were such a small community that I still trained with him I remember and yeah well yeah boy was fine so he was nice to you after you choke his sleep no I before I mean oh you trained with him before you saw that small community you know so I wouldn't say the skill discrepancy was actually that big but it was just when you go to war and you can be in competition I'm having a full on panic attack

you know I'm fucking first time in you know fucking hand to hand combat situation the sky is a man the sky is a stair down a tank of horses were you at the time 16 yeah that's not fair yeah and also like a pussy 16 another like a takashtani 16

it's like here on my knuckles and I have two kids those are like the real man dude whenever you would in those amateur circuits whenever it's like I don't know if Americans do that but like if you say you're fighting an American do you guys slip in that it's like it's

Jerome you know it's you're gonna just so you're ready it's gonna be a bit of explosive opponent like in in Estonia it's like if you're finding a Russian guy are you on who's like me is a Russian guy or are you fighting somebody whose name's ends with a

man man man it's a very different it's still Russia yeah mountain russians we say from the hills yeah we always say from the hills like it's it's a bit of a it's a bit of a different double leg that's gonna come at you dude did you see that course and Hagen Umar and the regumetta fight of course

so high for sunhagen he was wrestling so well everything correctly it was everything sunhagen was cool he didn't get backed up into the corner too early he was keeping his distance he had good knees and good judicat what I liked about sunhagen in that fight he used judicu he was proper judicu

yeah and for the first two rounds it's exactly like the Kabip thing the first two rounds you can actually out hustle not out hustle him but you can you can just you can be explosive enough to create those moments of judicu where you can stay safe right but that trains his keeps coming trying keeps coming just fucking keeps coming and mean and you know the difference in Umar versus Kabib is that Umar is stand up his stand up his so dynamic his kicking is so dynamic it's so dangerous

and quick you know like he throws head kicks off the front leg quick he throws things that are fast yeah he threw that front switch kick good not even a switch he was just he just slapped it out there yeah dude he's good he's very good real good his striking was on point like everything was on point and he's more threatening wrestling it's like it was a more potent combination of the skills that Corey has as well I mean he's a he's sandhagen's brilliant he's one of

the best fighters in the sport in my opinion yeah so to see a guy like Umar beat him you're like wow that's hot ended to come on strong in the fourth and the fifth that guys that guys fucking good man yeah he's fucking good and him versus O'Malley would be wild wild yeah more Marab him versus Marab will be wild too well Marab and him I want to see more because Marab is also a bully you know Marab is a different it's a bully different he's made out of different stuff

they say Marab trains hard like right up to the fight you can see that you can see that you can see that and well with the guy like that you're always like okay how long can you joints hold out exactly how long is it gonna be before your back goes obviously your will will carry you through if it if the human body wasn't so goddamn fragile cause like that would never get beat never get beat exactly that's the whole thing like came Velasquez with his body started going also Marab has been

dropped and hurt I think it was Marlon where I would have heard him Maraise bad Maraise bad bad how to really bad bad all the way out and stomped him in the next round yeah exactly Maraise had that thing where poor bastard this guy feel so bad for him because he was so good so good but just it's such a chaotic sport where a few bad fights just can have such a tremendous amount of impact to your fights that the next ones you know it's not like that so who to fight man the first round he was

lighting Henry up lighting him up where I was like if this guy can keep this up for five rounds Henry's gonna get stopped oh Henry just came on in the second round like an animal beat the shit out of him he closed the distance and he had one in pfl too with that left hook and that switch kick

ah yeah he came out all German sterling oh yeah man bad he came out German bad went for a switch kick to the body of the shot in the knee but then once he lost a Henry he started losing to a lot of folks a lot and now it's like yeah there was the sandhagen dropped him with a wheel kick remember that

yeah that was a bad one too yeah that's just those the skilled diversity that guy has he could do everything the sandhagen so good everything so to watch umar beat him oh god damn umar is the truth he's the truth it's like those

guys in that part of the world yeah and they're so frustrating because it's not like an incredible thing that they're doing you know if you watch somebody like Kona my Greg or who has the fucking test touch it's such a spectacle it's such like oh my god this guy has the power right but this guy is

just out wrestle you out grind you exactly keep coming they keep coming annoying and bully and mean but then you got guys like Islam that could do everything and umar this is the difference yeah right like Islam is scary standing up like in the beginning of his career

he was really good at wrestling not as good at standing up but now he's just as good standing up when you KO Vulcanovsky like that you know and then you choke out Dustin Porier like that like that guy he's got that's the full thing right he can head kick you he could strike with you and knock you knocked out glazed T-Bout with one shot standing yeah he can knock you out like legitimately and he could still struggle you and he could still smother you like it's the perfect combination

but it's like that is such a crazy strategy it's like you're outmaning every guy you fight his outgrapalium outstriking him most people like try to be like a specialist exactly but they're like the full marauder the full marauder man yeah I think if you wanted to like really think about like who's the most complete fighter this episode is brought to you by mowin homes are a big investment you want to protect them from fires break ins and especially water water damage is a lot more frequent

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just like john Jones of john Jones let's not forget the one true god and the act that's my boy the problem with john is the most dangerous man who have lived unfortunately that shoulder injury and then the uncertainty about moving up in the heavyweight like how's he going to deal with guys like

frances that which was always the big fight that was the fight that slipped between our fingers it was the fade or broke less now all over again that was the big one that slipped through our fingers that was the fight because you know the question is would frances people to keep john off of them exactly you know john be able to avoid the big strike stand exactly you know there's a difference in size that's pretty significant significant even when john was getting big

it's a different kind of big you know it's different like the two sixty five the frances carries around that's a natural lean two six five it's like a that's I mean it's a co what was it cobalt mining or some shit no sand mines sand mines yeah that's a different he was a child

a different guy that dude's powers extraordinary especially with them little gloves on you cannot get clipped by that guy you cannot get clipped by that guy so the questions would john be able to get a hold of frances would frances people keep john off of them frances can keep

john off of them would frances be able to stop those leg kicks because john side kicks the shit out of people's knees and it'll fucking scare you because it makes your leg hyper extended blow your knee out mean I love to join john's when he was mean global the share with that with that overhook

remember that overhook that he had on the shoulder yeah yeah mean elbows how about Tiago Tiago how to get two knee surgeries both knees kill it in with machita as soon as he goes out of the sleep just dropped them yeah well his his run in the light heavyweight division was nothing nothing

nothing like it yeah literally created for human combat his body looked insane small torso with limbs coming out it looked insane if you saw he's he's he looks insane right and this how small's calves are yeah yeah but yet it tremendous strong and small and the best guy ever it

likes utilizing distance strong mentally for sure mentally and clever clever yeah we just have to see him back and the apparently they're trying to do that thing it's supposed to be in mass square garden right is that announced officially

young Jamie the Steve John Jones versus deep a mass square garden November so there's being talked about also know there's back to steep but I don't want to see that fight that badly as I want to see you know I feel like you got to give steep a one more shot okay

I feel like the guys been strung around for this long if you want to respect the history and the lineage of the UFC have a champion right he's the most accomplished UFC heavyweight of all time defend the title more than anybody and you know he stopped Daniel Kormier he's a legit fucking killer he stopped a lot of like very very good people he stopped Junior Dose Santos one Francis yeah he beat Francis the first fight he heard him the second time yeah but it wasn't the second time it was

a different Francis Jesus Christ one of the scariest chaos I've ever seen in my life in the apex yeah doing being there live was incredible oh you were the live oh yeah so there was like a hundred people in that place when he followed up with the hammer fist the next area and that's

sad bro that left hook was and it was like when a steep it was trying to like capitalize on a shot he landed it's one of those victories where me and the boys were on the couch and it's not a woo it's just a yeah yeah because also you know how much damage Steve has taken in his career she says she's Christ Jesus Christ and Steve but hurts him there it is he hit him with that left hook really heard him yeah yeah but Steve also hurt him Steve also hurt him look at this

big I'm now steep because all he thought he had it so he moved it Nick yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he thought he had him when he landed that right and oh Christ my so apparently he's gained a bunch of muscles Steve Bay has he's been lifting a lot

and you know he hasn't fought to here thank God I'm doing comedy yeah thank God but for me when I look at an older fighter like Steve Bay who's a legend I said that's kind of what I want I want to got to take a long time off in between a bad KO and then you know no one's more

disciplined than that guy he's a very disciplined dedicated fighter that's why he was the most successful UFC heavyweight champion ever he's also 40 something years old right 42 I think okay so you got to if you just look realistically at natural athletes when

they get to that age you have concerns like how much of their performance do they have left like and it varies but it does last longer as a heavyweight absolutely heavyweights thinking because it doesn't the nervous system doesn't need to be as rapid fire as in a longer I can't wait yeah yeah like 42 year old band to wait kind of done but George Foreman won the heavyweight title at 45 absolutely so I just feel like yeah but Bernard was a freak I just feel like as a fan

and as a person who respects the sport you got to give Steve Bay shot okay yeah yeah especially when he was supposed to fight John and then John Torrance over see with me it's just like if if it's a classic thing of it's the mean quote that Don King used to have that why he when they asked him why he was like ripping off Mike Tyson he was like you got to keep the lion hungry you know oh god imagine that's your justification because he's stealing money I know I know but Mike Tyson fought

times that year so that's true right that's true but that is for some of those guys that that's what some it's as soon as because you know I was a big corner guy SPG the lineage we were at the connection you know and as soon as a corner started getting rich I was you know as soon as John Jones got rich all of them at home let me guess never gonna see you I don't think that's what happened with John

there was a bunch of other factors true absolutely and that's why that steep fight is also accelerating of like the traditional family guy in the gym and then the other guy was back in the greatest psycho that's

ever and I love it dude when he went to Vegas to get his hall of fame induction and just disappeared into the night I like the Aspen all how many milligrams are those three's gonna have one yeah this is athletic nicotine is another company somebody gave me eight milligrams yesterday I was only

a panic attack two ridiculous that's too ridiculous like a panic attack a two eight I like I've cut my my my my consumption quite a bit I like that fight I think John Jones and Tom Aspen all as an interesting fight but if we just come as a big fast heavyweight he's a fucking powerhouse

man and he's big he's big is shit and be a shit if you look at fights where John has had difficulty some of them have been like really elite strikers like he had some difficulty with Leota Machita before he got a whole first round he had some difficulty with dominant

gray as absolutely dominant gray as some people even thought he lost that fight absolutely even Thiago Silva no still not silver all Santos Santos that's the guy who would kick both his knees out yeah but that was a split decision yeah and even there Thiago was even though Thiago was hectic

and temperamental in his exchanges not like a refined striker but he's a super dangerous it creates a job for John's that yeah that fucking sledgehammer that that dude has tattooed on his chest that's for real I mean that's how hard he hits that it that's he dude had a

sledgehammer tattooed on his tits it's amazing but that dude was scary but also with Aspen Alan Jones you know every time people say dude watching him and Cyril gone and all respect to Cyril gone but he never felt anything it was it was a made up guillotine even just on

the cage he just was like check this shit out yeah but as long as he gets a hold of your neck and he double and you up in that position where you can press his chest on your head that's with a guy like John with his kind of squeeze that's horrific it's kind of like

Cyril gone that's only been grappling for like five years you're gonna get strangled it's just that even with John Jones you know the heavyweight division has always been a shallow division due to the reason of genetic people beings just sure that size of humans it's a very

small percentage including heavyweight boxing 100% always see that guy Bakoli knockout Jared Anderson yeah holy shit that Bakoli guys terrible holy shit holy shit I'd heard about him from sparring sessions that's the first fight they saw yet yeah me too I'd heard I watched

a highlight reel of them on YouTube but I'm not the biggest like I don't know all the all the fighters that are fighting I know a bunch but I know like maybe 30% of boxing whereas compared to what I know about MMA so I heard about this guy from an article saying

that he like no one wants to spar him and I was like how come and then I watched a fight and I'm like oh well that's why Jesus Christ he's 285 pounds he's six foot six 285 pounds and takes a fucking tremendous shot and a lot of people thought this kid Jared Anderson

he's only 24 and he's still very talented but look at this fucking Jesus Christ and the bro that was round one okay he dropped him in round one but then he hit him with this sneaky ass uppercut like a fight with pockets watch this uppercut look at this uppercut

dude I mean my god this guy's like casually like beating the shit out of him this guy is so big and I heard like people are terrified to spar with this cat like they don't want to fucking spar with this dude you bring this guy into spar you and he's just beating the

fuck out of you and he could take an insane shot he took like a three piece that was nothing like there's nothing he just moves his head a little bit a little bit when he's getting hit he rolls it a little bit but the really good boxers the guys just spar look at that

uppercut that sneaky left uppercut he keeps hitting him with look at that when he hits him with I see it wasn't exactly in and out of distance you know I'm saying just to his right funny and he was a parallel legs so he can hit with both arms he's much bigger right

he's 40 pounds bigger than this dude and he's fucking dangerous shit Jesus look at that right hand man how beautiful is it too but it's like skillful it's skillful fluid punching but from a tank he's that pants skill yeah skillful yeah exactly and his day and his crazy

knockout power and he's a vicious body puncher to man I watched some of his highlights of someone's other fights tonight I went down a rabbit hole vicious body puncher to ummm terrifying just walk towards you just beats your ass you can't hurt him crazy it's like a member

Francis Nogano and who's that South African amazing not so no he's not South African you thinking about Georgina Rosenstrike or Rosenstrike yeah remember that just stormed it was literally yeah not even a proper punch it was Francis just walked towards him like

this yeah just winging winking nuclear bombs and one of them caught him boom out cold another one on the way down boom yeah well that's the kind of power that Francis has it's crazy it's crazy that's why I always love combat sports so much is that it's that there's

a lot of sports like tennis where a lot of money plays a big role in the in the sport you know it's it's a rich sport a lot of so a lot of money a lot of a a lot of business a lot of politics centers into the sport soccer is like that basketball is like lots of

politics but like combat sports is like a dude from yeah like a sand mine right to somewhere in the world yeah to start K-Oing people and within five I mean Conor McGregor a guy who's a fucking a pipe not an engineer but he was some blue collar job there's also people

that if they do something first and then get into fighting like there's a lot of guys that are like power lifters yeah and if I'll say guys NFL players I think a big one that's going to be the we'll see is people gymnastics because especially guys who do the rings and

things like that think about how much more armed dexterity and strength those guys have imagine that guy getting your neck you know imagine a guy like that who's a black belt and jujitsu with that kind of crazy strength to be able to hold yourself up in the air like

that I did that maybe three four years of gymnastics before I started oh absolutely that's why that's when I started resting because wrestlers a crock oroma versus do gymnastics they all do flips and shit right so that's when I started watching them practice and I was

doing gymnastics and I remember when I started jujitsu I remember just even my get-tops from positions and my ethics where I'm strong the positions where I could be strong were much more different than a guy who's like in the gym all the time bench dancing right

right right yeah for sure you have much better control your body yeah one of the things you found out a tenth planet was with a richie and geomartinas was break dancers oh absolutely that's gymnastics totally that's gymnastics totally when those guys started training where everybody

was like whoa and so Eddie's like started learning break dancing will just like Eddie's the best hill like what do we got to do what do we got to do let's do let's show me how to break dance because like those guys can do all that crazy shit where they can spin around on one hand

like so they can do like a lotus in the air they can do a handstand then they put their legs in the lotus position and they can stand on one hand and hop around on one yeah yeah bananas so that kind of control of your body and that kind of strength like directly those guys really got very well

they also trained really hard but they got very good at jujitsu very quick yeah my part they took used to be a back flip at a nightclub just slippery shoes for you just whip it out you can't have them slippery oh yeah when I see men wear those shoes on my do you hate traction dude with my

when I buy when I buy jeans when I go to stores the the the cloaks will always think I'm insane because I'll I'll practice checking for a bit just check a cake you know what you need you need a pair of origin jeans oh the stretchy ones the most light stretchy they are basically

pajamas they're basically pajamas they feel like sweatpants but do they look pretty though yeah let me show you go to the origin website all america made everything threads everything manufactured in america everything 100 percent buttons everything all made in america this is jaco

willings company I have a shirt sometimes too when I feel it's just a nice shirt but it's tight I got what if I need to pull the guard they look like regular pants they look like right yeah if you need to pull guard in these dude you could fucking train in these I could literally kick the

bag in these and I'm not bullshit I'm not boasting you could throw head kicks in these they're like pajamas but they look like jeans $129 that's $110 that's what I'm about to I'll get you pair just text me what your sizes I'll get you I'll get you pair they're the shit there's a kind of a

bunch of different companies that sell stuff like that I really like barbell jeans they do that sell those I've heard of those rev town are my favorite rev town it's like the best cut those are the ones I wore in the special those are rev town jeans they're super stretchy they're like

you just stretch out in them but by far the most comfortable the origin ones the origins they nailed it because it's the most loose like you know the other ones are like really free moving but they're pink 20 bucks that's my budget when I talked about that in my special people like what truck

doors action jeans like they were real things your legs they had a gusset in the crotch yeah he's got the slippery shoes Chuck didn't give a fuck about traction Chuck wasn't worried about sure he's trying to pivot on you son I used to work as a bouncer in a club where there was

an outfit for the security too and dress shoes dress pants red suspenders and like a fully like a like a what's the tuxedo shirt like a collar shirt stiff not but the whole time being like I'm gonna rip these pants as soon as I even do anything not only that but someone with a collar on

if you a collar if you have like a shirt with a collar that is a weapon against you that's on your neck like why do you have that that seems so crazy if you're in a position where you think you might have to defend yourself you should be wearing something that tears away from your body

fairly easily around the upper body and the lower body it better give you some movement yeah you can't I mean and you better have some goddamn traction on the bottom of your souls you can't have some slippery and the floor is a nightclub floor those are all fucking all-policly slippery and

beer and shit spilled everywhere every fight I would see would literally be the first guys throwing the bunch wippy yep and they're all on the ground and then people are kicking you in the head with boots on yeah fuck that fuck that fuck that yeah fuck it in fights you know that's the other

thing people I say if you if I could fight I'd fucking be fucking everybody like no you wouldn't be dead I punched one person in my lifetime working down just one person most of the time I could grab them uh try to get them in a hole they would calm down and one time it was so kept the

the this was this big fucking guy and he opened with a front kick oh no a well hip over fat dude like 40 years old but I threw legit front kick yeah that's immediately I knew I'm not gonna yeah I'm not gonna just grab him that's a crazy thing to open with yeah I grab I get a hold of that and

I throw an overhand immediately break my thumb to this day oh no immediately overhand straight to his temple yeah and I feel all my it's done it's done the guy get hurt or no not a tent not a tent you know you know how he left the nightclub how he dragged his wife with uh by her hair Jesus

like a and left the club into the night maybe that's what she likes she likes probably a bunch of people up and then drag her away like let's go baby and she just rides them and then we went and then we went to court from that incident oh my god when he gets to the did you see them

I think it was the the the the the nightclub suing him not suing but um so whatever settlement or I mean it's still uh people got hurt so it's still some sort of an investigation right but I had to test the vine court and um he had to up do like a formal apology they do that here too

right where you have to like stand up in court and do a formal and he had to me and the other bartenders working there I was the only security working that night of course that's classic nightclub 200 people only guy 19 year old kid cool yeah great with a bartender who's gay uh so we have to be

and yet apologize he goes uh he goes gentlemen I'm sorry and you know how he showed up to court he was just all swollen up not from that fight this this was once later so he's just living that lifestyle this is at their wrong yeah he was just so tough in court and was like I'm sorry gentlemen

and just goes into the day maybe the cops beat his ass maybe but he just came to go and remember all of us being like Jesus Christ is mongoloid this fucking some dudes like to fight that's a very unfortunate thing that you enjoy see that was another thing that when um when I went to all these

self defense class I used to go to the Wang Wing Chun you know and and there would be a master who said you know sparring is not real life combat in real life combat I hurt you I kill you you know and I'm like interesting but I would already go to jiu jitsu and I'd be in my head like you

know this instruction shows up he's got a belly button that has hair in it and it's a little floppy and I'm like I reckon if I'm low kick you right you're gonna feel something and uh that was a big problem you know with self defense courses and me and preet that jiu jitsu guy um we we actually used to go do a couple of youth camps where there was trouble some youth you know who get into fights and we would do demonstrations where uh do you know in the 90s in eastern europe there was a rise in

people getting stabbed because people would think that you take this course on you know you take a course every Sunday right where they teach you somebody has actually been I remember my friend telling me like if you and attack me with a knife you're more dangerous to yourself than you are to

me because he believed in the system and then all these retards would be in fucking Latvia or something and you're with your girl and some crackhead comes up at you and you're served up here you go baby and you see your fucking blood on your hands and in that yeah and that's always what I learned

from uh immediately I was like uh from those street from working as a bouncer is that yeah I'm comfortable in a sparring environment mouth guard on and we're friends even though you're trying to take my head off uh I'm in a comfortable environment where I know if I go out it's over you know if I

could hurt if you hurt me with a middle kick you're not gonna get but there's men out there who go to bars they get gacked up and they just brawl those are men who are comfortable in the chaos of a bar you know also probably not making good decisions at any stage of their life see that's what

I'm saying is that even though I might be a jujitsu guy this guy's gonna bite my ear he's gonna you know you don't want to fight people period so that's when I really put together all those self defense and me and Preet would go to youth camps and we would he would like um he would like

he would like a crankle up a plastic bottle and he would be like okay are you do all the cool moves that we've that they all teach you know like hi huh behind the back grab the knife you know and then he would just you know I would like grab his wrist and then he would just pull the knife away

and he's like at that point you have a deep cut in your arm you'd be fucked and he would look at those kids and go so you guys think that if you see your white flesh like a rose open up in your palm you think you're gonna look at that and go okay fucking get the pose no that's a instant panic

attack survival instinct you know I don't want to see if it's really bad is that a knife fight I'm a very no no it's almost describing exactly we're saying like these guys this guy gets his leg cut really bad okay I did see that don't show it to me don't show it's horrible it's horrible it's

horrible I've seen all of this kid and the kid pulls a knife out and slices his thigh open almost to the bone like where it opens up like a flap dude I got a piece of that oh let's be right back we'll be right back and we're back it was so good there's a feeling that when you have to pee that

like you're you have like 30% of your your mind is available 70% is like don't pass your pants don't and you're talking about wrist locks I'm like great gotta get it I have to pee too but I was just like I'm gonna piss my pants on this we did it we held it together we held it together

hey thank you for being there sorry night it was a lot of fun and Friday night too by the way I have to I have to say dude watching you do that live special is amazing to just watch you dude I mean me and Ron white were in the green when you were on stage and we were like thank god

we're just chilling you know in comments it's scary it's scary yeah but then again and here's another point that I have to say that do you know how crazy it is that you have okay one of the biggest podcasts in the world but you're an actual practitioner of an art form that only only 10

years ago was not even stand-up comedy wasn't even the main form of comedy there was sketch comedy improv stuff movies stand up stand up was a subsidiary art form of comedy like a small genre right and that you with now your platform and your voice are a practitioner you could this is

how lucky we as comedians are to have to have a guy who's an actual practicing comedian you could also be like a famous guy and just live in the shadows show up at a club every two months be a superstar do a because you're talented and funny enough do a good set you know people go home

that was great that was Joe Rogan because he saw because people come out to see you they'll they'll have a good experience but you're a guy you're writing bits you're like coming to the club your own club of course you're coming to the club and you're writing you're working on it you're

fixing it and how lucky we are to have a guy who's an actual you could be like a piece of shit apple you could absolutely it wouldn't work we would never been able to do what we're doing and what we're doing is really good for me too it's one of the reasons why like I think we're all

benefiting greatly from that place do we're all benefiting from the vibe of it nobody's benefited more than me yeah we're both benefiting dude it's all good dude it's all for everybody it's all we're all getting something out of it and it's we're all getting something in it together too

that's the cool part about it we're all like you know Asano he says that that's one of the things that the door guy say when one of them gets a gig they say we up dude they're so supportive of them because I also did I auditioned for Adam I auditioned for Adam I got into the club the

the like proper way I think I wasn't some fucking made with God nobody knew who you were yeah and whenever I get some opportunity like this right now they're all like so cheering for me you know it's very supportive because they also know that that this all the stuff that's happening to you

can happen to them all the stuff that's happening right now to William Montgomery could happen to you amazing all the stuff that's happening to David Lucas and Cam Patterson and all these guys these Hans Kim Hans Kim selling out weekends everywhere he's killing it and he's doing great is act

as tight it's got some funny shit man he's got some funny shitty works out like dead kid has spreadsheets and shit he's going over his material I'm fucking Google Docs you know I also do every fucking week there's another guy in that club that I'm like yep this and then I

do Tyler Fisher yep oh my god he's hilarious bro that bet he does about being a cop for the pedals bro how funny is that how funny is that I I showed it to the door guys I filmed myself behind the curtain at Fatman having to follow Tyler I filled my own face and the applause is

that he's getting and me being like this and I always refer to I go hey Tyler how about we how well we keep five characters today he has a full because he has characters oh yeah he goes to the crowd he jumps every he uses the state liners jokes anecdotes callbacks everything is tight yeah it's

tight and he's got so much energy enthusiasm and that guy was having a hard time he was telling the store the podcast that like he got dropped by his agent because they couldn't handle any more white straight men like you don't think did you guys are you in the talent business you don't see

how talented that fucking guy is but you know it's like this weird thing that we're all a part of well I was to just I mean think of my storyline in 8th of December I'm in London the UK I went to London a couple of years ago had a great time because I was doing the open mic circuit but this

time I went back as a headliner wanting to maybe move up in the industry two months nothing's happening struggling just because I went to New York same thing it was just because I didn't really have a connection nobody really knew me and I'm also not a guy who's great at net like

the showing up at the park I don't do coke I don't I hang but I only talk bits so and I would go to like let's say a New York like a comedy seller and there's like 20 guys with backpacks and trite boats all waiting to talk to the manager you know and when I see that I always feel like

I don't want to be another asshole you know hello it's my I'm the guy you know so I just felt like on every audition I had when you audition in a London that's also good shout out to Adam Eekit do you know how crazy that is that he watches Sunday Monday he watches everybody you can be

on the street a guy and you get to be in front of the probably the most important talent scout and he watches them and he gives you and if you do a good job he'll give you a spot that's what he's really good at it he's really good at he really understands comedy he understands comedy

he gets it he sees voices he wants he was he gives everybody a shot he was on a show with Norma Donald like they were coast insane his best friend yeah yeah he Adams awesome and he was one of the first resources he was the first guy that I got when while was deciding to do this

he was number one so I remember when Sam like a bit and then yeah so eighth of December I fly over to Austin on 9th of December I have nothing's going on Sam talent is in town just by accident Austin and he came to Estonia to visit me we only talked to online before that and he goes you're

sure I'll get you a spot but I didn't want to bother him so I'm still signing up outside and then Sam goes where are you Adams looking for you and I go oh shit I go to the security you know the Avengers are out there I gotta be like hey guys I could like hey guys and they're all here my accent

they're like what the fuck yeah you gotta get somebody Sam comes out I do my set and even before my set they see Adam you get and I'm like oh that's that's the Adam me get because I read about him and no Brody Steven Brody Stevens in his special always says Adam me get like seven times so

remember that name Adam me get Adam me get trying to hold me down this is my shot and he would and he's back there and I'm like oh shit he actually dude I'm 12 years into this and to see a talent manager or a scout or whatever to actually watch your set is actually rare well the

story with me and Adam is Adam was he used to work at the tempi improv and that's why I met him and he was always a great guy and then he came over to L.A. and started working at the comedy store when I had left so I had left after the Carlos when see a thing I was gone for seven years so I

was doing the improv I was doing the ice house those other clubs and so then he came and met me I think it was like 2014 or yeah 2014 so seven years after 2007 and I was like come on come I'm doing I'm the talent quarter now they got rid of the other guy and I was like oh I don't

know man I don't know if I want to go back it's just like I just felt so fucked over the whole thing was so gross it was like fuck that place but then Ari was doing a special there so I tried yeah I knew I had right there so I had to go back so I went back Monday night before Ari

or whatever night roast battle was at and I sat in the audience at roast battle it was insane it was insane Jeff Ross said this is like my first time at the club in seven years and like it was that was a cool feeling like to be like I felt comfortable there again and then I watched Ari

I have to be there for Ari I mean this is not just Ari's first big special on Comedy Central but it's also Ari my friend who I knew who was a doorman okay when I was on I guess I was on either news radio or fear factor I don't know what TV show was on at the time I met Ari it might have

been fear factor but like all of a sudden I'm hanging out with this kid this young kid just starting out and then we become friends and he goes on the road with me and we work together we do podcast together and then all of a sudden all these years later he's got his own fucking Comedy

Central special and he's got his own Comedy Central TV show which is one of the reasons why the game is special and he's filming it in the fucking OR I'm like I have to be there I had to be there and so then I came back and so now I was there all the time then I just started going like

every day I was there all the time well yeah we heard about it on the podcast all the time I just went back full on and then Adam and I started talking and one of the things we started talking I was like what do you want do you want to do they felt you know like a little bit underpaid and there's

a lot I go what do you want to do like what would like what would be the ideal way to open up a club and we would start talking about what to do we start talking about what he what is what is really important what's really important is like a talent coordinator is a lot of time it's just the manager

picking headliners to come in for the weekend or some insane girlfriend of the owner yeah so this is the difference the difference is I think in I think there's probably different kinds of classifications for what kind of clubs they are our club is a development club absolutely it's not just a club

for great headliners like when Colin Quinn is here or Dice is here it's a club for developing so we said okay how many nights a week should we have open mic night and we said two let's do Sunday and Monday so two nights full open mic night and then it was Adam's idea to have door people audition

with their act and I was like you know what door guys fucked off so much at the comedy store they were so bad at doing certain things they were scamming money and getting people to bribe them which we've had we've had that too but that's normal right you know you got to

yeah these are comedians dude yeah while people while people but the door people at the mothership are so much better than any of the door people at the comedy store and I think part of it is because there is this ethic there that we're all the same thing we're all together we're all the same

we're all hanging out together at minceys bar we're all the exact same thing just some of us have been doing it 30 years so I've been doing it 12 years so I'm doing it five years some of us moved here because they did a few open mic nights it's the only thing they ever loved in their life

the only thing they ever wanted to do in their life and they're like god damn it I want to be in Austin and then they moved there and they got a job there and their act is what gets them the job and if you you could string together a few minutes and you could show that you could get those

sparks going and make a little campfire okay let's see how much better you get at making campfires let's see let's see what you can do and that that's the difference between that club and everywhere else and it all goes all the way up to the very top whether it's Shane or Tony or

anybody who's working on their act and working on new stuff you see them you see Brian Simpson constantly Ron white sharper than he's ever been how was that said he's a thousand years old dude Ron white was born before the worst feet people people still had fins these an animal he's better

than he's ever been before yeah we were driving to your special in San Antonio he picked me up at from my house and I'm like I'm in the car with Ron white and he's just talking about DMT doing 90 miles an hour all the way sideways he's like all right there's another world out there

I'm like we're doing 19 this one though runs in the simulation for sure he but also like I was saying about you he also you might think that this guy will come to the club and be a superstar no he comes in and works on his act talks

about bits yeah and he's hanging out and having a panic attack just like I am and he loves when a bit bombs he comes back well that fucking didn't work at all at all he's like he's playing on his side he comes to agree with something he goes that fucking sock yeah yeah they weren't

my favorite but he was he's two things one he's the reason why I moved here because he was the first guy he was here before the pandemic but he's from Texas yes so he moved here like I was like where he been because I knew he's still at his house in Beverly Hills I'm gonna get rid of my

house Beverly Hills all the down here in Texas and so he he said it was center of the country you could travel anywhere and I was like damn maybe but I'm like I can't live there oh cuz I was always wanting to get the fuck out of LA but I can't leave the store but once they shut the store down

I was like oh all right well what the fuck am I here for the crime like yeah I'm not here for the store I don't want my movies yeah I don't want my youngest kids to grow up in this place it seems like it's getting worse and I also felt like this better place is to be and so when we all came

out here together it's like we all especially like when when we first started talking about the developing of the club was the whole idea was like let's do it our way let's do it the right way is opposed to doing it as a business let's do it is like what are you trying to do you just

trying to make the best club possible okay well then do that and then the business stuff put that aside you gotta stop don't think about maximizing profits because there's only one shareholder so let's just do it the right way and the right way is the comedians get most of the money the right

way is you bring the best people in the right way is you develop talent the right way is you have a show like kill tone in the sets of tone for the the entire comedy universe sets the tone and then guys like you can get on that stage crack some fucking great bits yeah and then bam it's crazy

you're off to the race and I kind of feel like because I'm a big book I've read everything about the comedy store everything about the history of the industry late night wars David Letterman moving yeah Johnny Carson moving from New York to the barbank okay I've know everything and I kind

of feel like I'm living the gold rush that was in the 80s and 90s in comedy store I kind of feel like I'm living that right now this one's crazier well yeah this one's crazier because this one people are doing arenas I mean we're doing kill Tony this weekend in mass square garden there's two

nights two nights in New York City sold out mass square garden it's this is Tony's in red bands coming out party this is like this is the big deal this is the big deal they sold this out quick quick you know and it's a beautiful thing to say it's a beautiful thing to see everybody

flourishing in this idea that we had actually work it's actually coming to fruition you know amazing yeah it's crazy yeah and to have you guys to have you Tony and Ron there when I was filming that thing also so the green room was just like regular green room regular ask green

right so we're used to hanging out and having fun laughing being fun and just like being silly together so we're all being silly so I was just super loose but then also there was that moment where me and you were in your green room and both of us were in our notebooks for about 20 minutes

just in silence and remember after thinking like holy shit see this is what it's all about yeah we're just writing bits and just you gotta work at it man and sometimes we don't you know sometimes we don't and one of the things that really made me think a lot about this the live

things like first of all I said no when my manager called me said you want to do a lot especially like a fuck that I don't do that and then I was I was I got off the phone with her I was driving and I was like why did I say no like why is such a pussy oh cuz you're scared you're scared

of doing it live and I was like oh why why you scared of doing it live like what is it about like you do everything live like you do UFC live podcasts are essentially they're you know they're recorded but you just you're just free wheeling right so why can't you do that live like just prepare

better just prepare more so I was preparing way more oh yeah watching you develop that hour was insane you were working dude also I'm never seen you off I've seen you in the green room maybe in a different mood than the other night did when you go on stage it's the rock city every fucking night

it's crazy to watch well I just been preparing this set for quite a while you know I thought I was gonna do a special in August of 2020 that was the plan cuz I had done a 2018 so I did 2016 was triggered and then my next Netflix special was 2018 that was strange times and I was gonna do

on in 2020 and call it sacred clown and it was based on the Lakota Hayoka was the the person in the tribe that made fun of everything cuz we couldn't make fun of anything it was bullshit they they had like a spiritual person in their tribe their goal was to make fun of everything was a

sacred clown and so I was like that's perfect cuz that's what it is you're just talking shit and making fun of things and you should be able to do that about everything and everything you can't make fun of is most likely bullshit well that's your comedy club dude I love that you called your

comedy rooms after the two nuclear bombs but that already shows there's no rules there's no rules there's it's over and I was worried about that at first I was like god this is so that's perfect that's letting you know there are no rules you know one of the reasons why I decided to

definitely call it that why cuz I told it to Louis CK anyway I go that's it yeah I signed that and also it's part of UFO folklore one of the main reasons why I wanted to have them because I knew I had two rooms and I knew there was two bombs and it was after those two nuclear bombs were

dropped that they started Kenneth Arnold had his sightings Roswell New Mexico had that big sighting like all the big events of UFO folklore happened after the bomb and the idea is that these interdimensional beings these they go okay these fucking crazy territorial apes have

now developed nuclear bombs we got a sure this could be very dangerous because if these idiots arm themselves as we have right now to the point where they can blow up the whole world like many many times over they might do it let's let's like let's make sure everything's cool

and so that's when all the UFOs started so before the comedy mothership where this UFO-based thing we kind of had to have those as the name because that's what that's what sends out the signal yeah those bombs fat man and little boy those bombs this that's what if you believe and I I love

to believe I don't 100% believe but I kind of love to believe I love to least talk about it if you believe that we were visited multiple times by alien life and a lot of it happened after 1947 makes sense well yeah if the universe is infinite and there's a there's a higher

species out there you would look at earth and you'd be interested 100% and then who knows what happened in Roswell was so the bombs were 45 Roswell was 47 who knows what really happened at Roswell but they do know that whatever they did they took that wreckage and they flew it in two separate jets the right Patterson Air Force Base because they didn't with one of the jets went down they wanted to make sure they still had the wreckage they put it in two different jets that's how important

this shit was whatever the fuck it was Bob Bob bubbles are who had that crazy stuff I just remember one story where he told that there were like multiple doors open and for him like it was an act because they were separated or something where he was working on and by accident he like saw the spaceship like through the doors and I'm ever being like holy shit well he saw when he went in to see it for the first time it added American flag sticker on it and his first inclination was oh this is why

people keep seeing these things these are ours but then the way it's described now who knows if it's true okay but I'd love to believe it is and the way he describes it is like they essentially brought him in said tell me what this is figure this out how does this work what is it and they

really never did they kind of got a working understanding of it but it based on some element that was only theoretical at the time now been proven by one of the particle colliders they created this particle yeah the one in Switzerland yeah that's where it is right that's the

one of the black holes on the work of rock and a black hole that you should do it. I remember I did like mushrooms for the first time and I was reading about it I'm like great I fucking those super nerds are going to kill us all but they but they did discover that this element that

Bob Lazar theorized exists but then the what I've heard is like they already knew that that was going to be an element so him saying that there's a lot of things like the Higgs boson there's a lot of things that they knew existed but they needed to get proof of it through the particle colliders

and so a lot of people aren't that impressed with that but he said they had a stable isotope they had a stable version of this element and this is what powered this generator and this this stable version of this element would sit inside of this container and it would be bombarded with radiation

and it would somehow or another manipulate gravity it's the wildest story ever the most fun story ever yeah but he essentially said they had they were trying for years to try to figure out how to reproduce it and they they they couldn't figure out how it worked they did a bunch of different things one guy died apparently trying to cut into it holy shit yeah that was a guy before him apparently yeah then and then there was the wackiest thing of all that we talked about this yesterday they

said that his they had a big thing on religion and one of the things were they said that they look at us as containers yeah and it's like that religion was here so that we don't damage what's inside the container the religion was put here to give people rules and regulations so they could foster

they don't destroy their souls so like they're just harvesting our souls yeah and making sure our souls don't go out because we would be just sucking and fucking and sucking right no imagine that if that's what happens that's how they trick you into downloading your brain into a computer

that's it that's the end result they're just trying to get that soul and then you are just trapped and that's what hell really is just stuck on a hard drive with nothing there imagine living your whole life being paralyzed but you don't eat food or water but you're lying on the floor of an

empty yeah yeah an empty office building that's that's you inside a computer for and the void and they don't download anybody else onto your hard drive either in the because if they have other people on that hard drive little ruin the hard drive we can't yeah

if they're code my code mixing together come on yeah we're in a weird time my brother we're in a weird time because the reason why comedy as you were saying earlier is like stand this this kind of comedy is like the most prevalent comedy because the only one you could actually be free

and do you can't make tropic thunder anymore you can't make you know there's there's there's a there'll be a there'll be a movie it's a pendulum you know culture is always a pendulum there'll be some dude there'll be the new dandruff dice clay there'll be the new tropic thunder there'll be

the new super bad I hope so yeah 100% because that's some so because as soon as as soon as something is like 51% of a popular opinion the 49% becomes cool the rebellion comes cool yeah but it won't even be popular opinion the popular opinion is almost 100% that they would want tropic

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the real popular opinion amongst people who go to see those films let me say it that way because popular opinion amongst people who don't go see super bad what difference does it make but the people that do go see those movies and do enjoy those movies would

go to see one right now most of them most but there's always but but yeah but and that's why I always be there's so much fun and rebellion and breaking the rules and the more I always thought I think the stronger a line is the more power you have of crossing you know right right right so I just

don't think the line is real I think the line is a small very vocal minority of people and the majority of people know what jokes are yeah and you can't finance these things anymore but then again if it's if it's all no rules and no like if you can don't get a reaction then it doesn't have

any power you know it's like like when Tony we were just talking in the green room when Tony Hinchcliffe said Faggot on Netflix at the Tom Brady Rose right that's like if you're a culture nerd that's like a cultural moment right because you can federate Fag yeah because he's saying

something that unanimously five years ago was the line yeah but now the lines moved it doesn't even move but people dance around the line and it gives it power because if you create a line you're going to create people who are going to dance around it give them yeah but no they don't

we didn't agree to the line but the thing is like that line only existed in corporate controlled media and existed in like virtue signaling internet people but that's the power of the release right you know but that line didn't exist amongst friends oh that's why off the record talk yeah

real shit talk that line never existed retard was on the table all the retard has never left the table never left the table especially in quiet company when you're alone yeah what's going on with your brother dude with fucking retarded I can't I can't talk to him he doesn't listen that's

normal talk normal talk we know what that means and the the idea that we're supposed to back off these words because a select minority of very vocal people who are like super sensitive and probably medicated like no no don't listen like no don't watch that movie no don't go to see that stand up

you don't have to like everything I there's a lot I don't like that other people love and guess what I'm fine with that I like it I like the fact is a variety of different humans part I it's a fun part of being a human yeah it's fun yeah yeah and you know that's the the beauty of true diversity

you know like one of the things that's great about the club is the lineup is actually very diverse but not because we wanted it to be diverse we wanted people who are really good killers and they come in all fucking sizes and shapes they got your camera man yeah fat gay guys small fucking

porn addicts like this effort this they're all over the place they're all over the place everybody's different and that's good that's good for everybody and it's like we speak this language we're here for this art form everything else is fine like you just be a nice person be nice to us we're

nice to you we can nice to each other we're all gonna grow from this experience we're all gonna be better people because of this we're all gonna be better members of a community we're creating a community also their nights at the little boy because of the yonder bags and stuff I'll say

some stuff yeah you get a little wild that I know is not leaving this room and the release you see in the people where the laugh and so on there's like a 40 year old guy with his wife and he's like I can't believe this European fuck yeah he's saying this this is not okay but that's so fun

you know there's a lot of people that are laughing really hard no no that's why he but he's also laughing because it's not okay but it is okay it is okay here but it should be okay everywhere it's okay in private company right absolutely off the record talk off the record talk yeah but it should be

okay and this art form requires that you do that it does it doesn't require you have to do it there's guys like you know Brian Regan who are brilliant Jim Gaffigan brilliant brilliant get Gaffigan's brilliant you never have to worry about him offend unless he reads Twitter he never

have to worry about him offending him right his his stuff is sweetly perfect example Nate's genius genius brilliant can talk about table squeaky clean yeah though those guys have always existed and those guys are us too it's fine it's like the no one dislikes Sebastian you know everyone loves

Sebastian he was just at the club last night yeah I brought him up amazing the best the best the nicest guy too I love it's a mole infestation and how he launched a cook this is like cook the he's awesome I actually just got a message for one of my friends they said they saw

them at the club last night he was brilliant but like the point is like everybody's different that's great that's great boy girl gay straight everybody there's a bunch do all you have to do is be good that's it and you don't get any brownie points for your group if you're not good okay if you

want to come on just because you're this or that guess what there's no room for that well all the if you have to be good all the festivals comedy festival I was a big festival show because I was where you get get up back in the day Australia 18 borer GFL they're all falling apart

because they didn't listen to the ripples of laughter well they're doing a different thing here's a problem the people that are doing the festival themselves are not usually like working stand-up comedians yeah right so there are people that exist in the ecosystem that aren't creating the thing

right so they know what they like they might know what they and they might also apply their own personal politics to their decisions about what kind of comedy they want to see it's also is it their personal politics or is it the politics that they think people are gonna grab it

title you know I think it's both because I think primarily in show business people are indoctrinated into the cult of leftism it's almost well almost universal in show business except for a lot of musicians they kind of keep it undercover but a lot of actors have to keep it undercover too like

conservative actors just keep their mouth shut like Chris Rat type dudes they get in trouble every time we talk about Jesus John Cena talking Chinese yeah yeah yeah well that was different that was a little bit of an apology I didn't do that bit my act but the whole thing about it is

that you know we you've got to let people express themselves however they are however whatever whatever whatever what are you you know Tyler Fisher is very different the David Lucas right David Lucas very different than Ron White and everyone has to be able to express themselves in whatever

form they find themselves in going through this life the best possible way they can that's what we're set up to do but that's like that just think that I was talking about this the resignation of the feelings of the story that you're expressing that people gravitate to

and when you start putting a bullshit agenda out there I feel it I see it I see it and that the the anti bullshit is that green room because the green room was so fun that you go on stage from there with those good vibes like I oftentimes I'm like sad that I have to shut my phone off you know

I'm like sad I gotta go guys and I'm sad that I have to leave our fun club house I'm not really but I want to continue the conversation I know I'm gonna have a great time on stage I'm looking forward to it but I want to continue the conversation you know and then having you guys in the green

room with me when I film the special was huge man it was huge because it really was like I always feel this like I went camping with Brian Calon once we went to we went on a deer hunt and I was like this is gonna be crazy we're gonna go to Montana it's gonna be freezing it's gonna be five

degrees outside we're gonna be sleeping on the frozen ground we're gonna go hunt some mule deer in the mountains you want to do it he's like fuck yeah so we did it but I was like if you and I are together it'll be fun no matter where we are like Brian and I could be hanging out in some shitty

motel in the middle of Saskatchewan just laughing our asses off just because we're friends and we've been friends forever and so we can have fun together so no matter how chaotic the situation is when you have friends with you it changes where the situation is so even though that was a live show

in front of who knows how many fucking people watching live on Netflix I was hanging out with you guys who's normal normal show so I just kept myself a normal show mind and just went on stage it was very cool to learn like watch you from the side and be like yeah you're just doing another set

and also you're you were so well prepared that you were like the perfect guy to do that live special you know you got to prepare in a different way it's like there's a thing about archery okay like if you say if you're proficient at 50 yards you can hit a bullseye on a regular basis

at 50 yards you really should be hunting at about 25 yards because at 25 yards you're shaking you got adrenaline there's anxiety maybe this is a new thing you know there's a wild hog moving 50 yards away from you and you're drawn on like oh my god is this really happening like

you probably shouldn't be shooting at 50 yards yeah if you want to shoot at 50 yards you should be really proficient at a hundred yards and you should have a bunch of shots already under your belt so you are accustomed to this experience so with comedy I was like okay I know I've done a bunch

of live shows but I can't just go up on stage like this is a regular live show like I've done a bunch of shows in front of a live audience this is going to be a way different pressure and if I don't agree to that in my mind and if I don't address that in my mind and over prepare you let that tiny

window of doubt open and that the little demon of doubt will sneak in and steal your confidence and fuck with your head and give you anxiety and make you start thinking of what if you bomb what if you forget the jokes what if you forget what place you're at what if you forget the line what

if you're we get the punch what about that new punch line you're gonna do you get it you could mind fuck yourself or you could just super over prepare so I super over prepared yeah I listened to recordings I watched videos I wrote for like I I prepared for like five hours the day of the

show I never left my computer that's how I always feel about writing and writing during the day about comedy people always call it it's just write an act and I go to be honest 99% of the shit I write during the day doesn't end up actually working on stage most bits still click on stage right

I can't I have to give an energy out to the universe that listen I'm preparing for this yeah just so I know that I'm ready you know when I go on stage and even though you can't exactly say that I'm writing the perfect set and it's gonna go as I wrote it but the energy that I put out in

the universe is that I'm preparing yeah it's it's also it's not that's not the process the process isn't you write it exactly as you're going to say it because you really need to say in front of an audience to know how to say exactly and you just say hear it for yourself too and you need to

actually the whole thing is it's a framework for you being in the moment talking about that thing right and if you can like if you can set that framework up well on piece of paper or on a computer screen that's great but then you review it and then you keep tweaking it and you keep fucking with it

but also if I don't write I just feel like I'm why am I not working hard at this right and that gives me anxiety of being like because I remember the first lesson in martial arts that I had the first lesson in my life I we have compulsory military serves in Estonia which I didn't do I regret it

the only reason I didn't do it is I did sports and guys who went to do the military service they ate shit food got back injuries came back and they lost a year in their athletic life and a year as you know in an athletic version that's that's huge yeah so I didn't do that I regret it that but the

first lesson I got through martial arts was that why I wasn't successful in mixed martial arts wasn't because I'm physically not I wasn't talented but the reason I wasn't successful was because I always thought about I wanted to accolade I wanted to be the cool guy who gets the head

kick kisses the girl right and it's cool didn't want to deliver I didn't want during practice during like you did two classes when my when Breed is talking about our our bar defense I'd be daydreaming about what song am I gonna come out to you know I'm so hilarious I'm showman

and I would go I didn't this is just boring dude I want to go spar so I would go to tie boxing clubs and spar and have fun with my friends I would build a fake ring in our gym and we would do all the cool stuff that we wanted to do and then I remember maybe a year later there was this

there was a doesn't nerdy guy who started same year as me nerdy oh class not physically not give to that all a year later I spar with him and he this fucking nerd is fucking me up with a jab but that's because he gave he had mad time right we always call in resting this this

expression called mad time sure oh you can be amazing and talented and of fucking beast but if I do 400 hours and you do 22 no matter at the end of the day I'm gonna get you because I have mad time and especially with you Jetsu especially but it's it's also how much energy

are you putting towards a thing exactly that's really what it is and it wasn't that and that and and that's what I learned about the whole thing I was like yeah he was putting energy into the universe and committing to something yeah and putting that out there and even though it's also

you're looking for a result and he's involved in the process you have to trust the process yeah that's the process of writing exactly and this is one thing that I tell comics all the time they always say I write on stage like bro I do too I do too we all do especially when you do

bottom the barrel you always write on stage you're fucking around I fuck around all the time fuck all that's fine the fuck most of my bits come like this sometimes they do but also you can write yeah it doesn't hurt you to write doesn't hurt you no and me preparing for this live special

maybe really concentrate on like tightening up segues I didn't want to and it anything to be clunky I wanted to like really make sure that I had it fucking pause down Jerry Seinfeld had a great quote where he goes like that the comedian told him yeah right on stage he said I'll see you in 20

years you look you can write on stage there was a great article that was out there was about Jerry Seinfeld and Chris Rock I think it was in fortune magazines see if you could find it but it was essentially they were saying Chris Rock said this best the guy was going you know do what do you

do during the day goes I don't do nothing but I do every open mics every night and he said during the days where you make your money at night is when you collect it wow look at that you collect your money at night but you make it during the day so true because the performance just a byproduct it's

a great article and it's the perfect mindset especially coming from a guy like Chris who's you know put out bigger and blacker and was the other one that was like is two is two great ones when he first came and then fuck was the other one bring the pain bring the pain those two are some of the

greatest comedy specials in the history of the world and that guy man like listen to him whatever the fuck yes he used to come to the commie store and he had a very unique strategy he would come to the commie store with premises and like ideas that he had but he did not have them worked out

and he would just eat shit like try to eat like try like let it be like let there be like some blank spots let there be some dead air and force himself to come up with the funny and find the funny and then you see it revise the next night and you see everybody that was what they said about

prior they said prior would show up at Tuesday with a bunch of ideas for bits and they would bomb and then on Wednesday they might bomb a little less and then on Thursday they would start kicking and then Friday came along and he was in the made room murdering with some shit that he came

up with on Tuesday but that's because those guys aren't scared to stare down the bull right right because a lot of guys get their first 20 and they're so scared of letting it go because it was so hard so hard and it's hard people always say oh it's hard to be an open micr no bro it's hard

to be Chris rock it's hard to be an open micr too no it is but what I mean is hard it's harder to be an open micr because you don't know what the path is like you don't even know how to get funny but what I mean by that is that the open micr how many guys did when you started coming how many guys

did you know who were so much funnier than you just because they played poker without chips on the table they would show up on their terms go on on their favorite room do their favorite material they would have a couple of drinks but they would then disappear when and then when they get the

weekend and it's Thursday you gotta be funny at eight o'clock Friday you gotta be funny at seven and ten they would kind of fall apart because they're only playing poker by their rules when they're comfortable with their friends in their favorite rooms right but can you be a professional five

times a week also when you feel uncomfortable going to this new place and then you know you have to do a long time do you have the stamina to keep that party mind going on for 45-50 minutes a lot of free ballin a lot of free ballin yeah free ballin is fine if you're doing 15 minutes absolutely

no you don't worry about it yeah yeah that's what I'm saying it's on your terms it's different thing it's on your terms you know yeah well I think if you're gonna prepare for a special you have to do a lot of hours I don't really think you could get away with unless you're a guy who does a

lot of non-secretors maybe you could piece together like three or four sets and then put them together for one night because if you know how they go you could do that like if you're working in New York City but there's no substitute for those long ass sets man yeah absolutely and there's

different types of comedians that have a different process absolutely there's no right way of doing it but are you staring down the bull of your own fears you know whereas some guys maybe might not benefit from writing during the day I get that but are you maybe overlooking no no no no everybody

benefits yeah that's what I think I don't believe that I don't believe that I believe even the greats even the greats who don't do it if they did it they'd be even better and I think that because of my own personal experience with with writing a lot absolutely when I started I remember

that was exactly the murderers around me who were a bit ahead of me during the day they would all have these talks and they would all be like what is the path and the energy and with the you know what is the comedy what is it but the whole time I'm just writing basic hacky anecdotes because

I'm fucking two years in of course writing basic hacky anecdotes but I remember from sports I just look because they all came from the either fucking bars or artistic or theater I came from sports where it's like no no show up for practice I don't go fuck if it's your off day listen if your

leg hurts don't kick us hard but just be there be cognitively in the process yeah you're putting energy into the universe and the way the universe has always worked is if you put energy out something's coming back there's a never I've never known a comedian who has been working hard

honestly for 10 years and hasn't made it I've never known a guy if they have it if they have the spark but there have been some people that somehow another snuck through some bizarre way that are still there yeah but even that is a true testament of if you're just fucking right but what

yeah but we can talk about that later that's not important to be negative but yeah you're right it's it's like if you I always say to people that are funny at all like if you do an open mic night and you make me laugh I'm like you have the hardest part down you're funny so now just

keep going now just keep working on it and the more time you spend working on it in every realm whether the more sets you do the more recordings you listen to the more writing you sit in front of your no pad yeah right sit down come up with ideas mess them around like go over some of your

old notes you should have old notes you should I have like a orphan baby folder so like they're they're orphan jokes of mine you know the the thing about writing they always say kill your babies you know like for editing like it's hard for writers or hard for anybody's creative person they

create something you don't want to let it go I like a whole folder of orphan babies and I'll go back to that folder every now and then I'm like I'm gonna let some out maybe I need to talk about that again yeah maybe I find a new way and so you always have like some fertile land to till and that's

only from writing if you don't write into then you're just stuck with what's in your mind right now and what's in your mind right now is it's probably pretty good a lot of guys do very well with what's in their mind right now especially do a lot of sets but you're really better off if you

also spend some more time working on the ideas in silence by yourself just sit there sit there and you'll every now and then you come up with some of my best lines I've come up with that way exactly it's not an over and then the most magic dude I had that that little boy on Tuesday

with doing bottom of the barrel where I pull out the subject and there's a like a shelf in my mind that was there I put a topic there seven eight years ago and then you remember it yeah and I never even thought about it because it was so stupid it was it even comes out of bottom of

the barrel like a little gift from the universe then I go to the green room I write it out go straight to Fat Man murder yeah that's the beautiful thing about that place it's it really is a true place where you can develop I'm taking a couple weeks off and I'll be back yeah hell yeah it's crazy

you know the first time I saw you was in Australia I know yeah I'm talking about that comic slounge Melbourne yeah one of the dorkies team was a good friend of mine and he writes me during the day hey Tony Hinchcliffe and this was when because I told you this was when Tony

just like eight years ago he was already good but he wasn't the heel that he is now the guy but he had that spark because when he opened for you in the theater I remember he opened with Melbourne Australia lots of white people what is this heaven

I'm Melbourne is a super liberal you know the theater the release yeah yeah yeah yeah there needs to be tension for there to be release yeah and I remember my friend Tim writes me and he goes oh Joe Rogan and they're coming to and he was another guy he was like an Australian guy show or something

you know that's his headlining show and he was big in Australia but not like pack out the club half-papered older people you know it was like a like a regular crowd okay nothing superstar rock star shit right and all the open-mikers all me everybody gets back into the room to watch you

because you're our first famous guy that we've seen drop into that club and in our head you know how open my we're all haters dude we're all like let's see this American guy bomb you know because we're all haters at that point you know open-mikers dude yeah what do you think dude I'm getting

two minutes at this club what the fuck am I you know so we're all like oh how's this and you come they go from America and this was you had the Joe Rogan experience he was I think on you just went from you stream to YouTube it was big in the comedy community but in Australia pop culture

not that big you know you were the fear factor guy I would say most just looking at the crowd what they thought of you and you get a polite nothing like it would be today you get a polite applause and you go out there and it was your trickered set you did you did so clever to you did the

opener of your hour and the closer right because I saw you in the next day in the theater yeah dude you were murdering so hard when you had a Kim Kardashian pit when you're climbing on a stool you're kicking off the heels yeah sweat was dripping because it was summer in a sweat sweat was

dripping down I remember and all of us like comics in the back are like these this this is not a crowd that for who Kim Kardashian is a prevalent pop figure but your bit was so so good that it transcends the reference you know it's like me as a young kid watching Dave Chappelle doing crack

baby I'm an Estonian white kid in a suburb what do I know about the corner right and the projects I'm never seen a black person but he's literally never but he's but he's talent transcends the reference right and I remember you were murdering so hard and that's when I was like holy fuck like

because we all thought you're just like a famous guy who just does stand up on the side and we're like not this guy's a murderer and I remember that poor headline I mean rest in peace and you were like slamming well thanks brother yeah that was right when I was about to film triggered yeah that she was tight and then I remember somebody comes back to me they know I smoke

weed they go mr. Rogan needs weed and in my head I'm like um didn't we hang out on this little like a balcony area a little fire so I'm telling about this balcony hey we gotta go man oh I'm sorry I gotta wrap this up let's wrap it up let's wrap it up with this okay so you're on the

balcony and I get the weed and I tell my friend Tim to see I'm cool I'm not gonna talk and for everybody try to talk to you there I'm just gonna give you a fist bump and the weed I go I have the way Tim grabs the weed turns around and just walks away and in my head I'm like I wish

I could have just given you a fist bump you know but now nine years later hey fuck you Tim yeah fuck you Tim you Hater you take his weed yeah yeah um yeah that was fun that was it's cool it's always cool to go to a different country and see yeah see you and do it and then you're murdered

in the theater seven a.m. I see you at the UFC holy holm ronda rousey amazing KO dude I go back to bed I wake up you're already in LA talking to a scientist engaged I'm like this guy fucking that was like a crazy weekend you know yeah it's a wildlife um anyway again thank you my brother thank

you for being at the club thanks for being an awesome guy it's it's great having you around thank you so much luresh and if people get a chance to see you live don't miss it Ari is a real killer thank you 12 years in and it's beautiful to see you there man and thank you very much for being there

Friday and Saturday night you fucking it meant a lot to me it really did thank you all you guys uh ron and tony too like that meant so much to me because it was like I was at home it was like we're home yeah the club's amazing thank you so much everybody your um instagrams they could find you

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