#2146 - Deric Poston

The Joe Rogan Experience by Joe Rogan The Joe Rogan Experience by Joe Rogan The Joe Rogan Experience by Joe Rogan The Joe Rogan Experience by Joe Rogan Join my day Joe Rogan podcast my night all day The Joe Rogan Experience by Joe Rogan Deric Poston My brother, my man

That's kind of, that's kind of cool Joe Rogan Well, we've had a million conversations like this in the Green Room We've already done like a thousand podcasts That this is my every night right here We need a fucking studio in that club You know, we need to put a podcast studio in that club I'm thinking about it, but like we don't have the space for it Yeah, where would it go?

We wouldn't go anywhere. There's no place There's no, we have, we used, it's like very efficient We have all the space Yeah, but I think what we need is a apartment We need an apartment close So we could just go right over Go right over Like go apartment that's just set up as a studio When you get in there, it's just all studio That would be nice, Joe Yeah So many apartments are available in that area, right?

Yeah, Jamie just got one Let's go Jamie It's your next store, so I don't have a neighbor Oh, that's not a bad idea How far away you from my club? Two blocks Ooh, let's go Is the next door neighbor open? I think they all are Oh, that'd be perfect, it'd give you the keys Which you see my view Ooh, that's what I want I want a view like that, because like how dope would that be? Late night, all of us chilling, windows, see the city I was gonna do that in downtown LA Really?

Yeah, but then I went to downtown LA Oh my God, and I brought my family And I brought my daughters when they were young And I was like, oh my God, am I gonna have to kill somebody?

Yeah It was crazy, and this is pre-pandemic, man Yeah This is before the shit hit the fan I'm like, people were just pissing all over the place It smelled terrible There was some really good doughnut place That's in downtown LA So we were like, let's go get some doughnuts Let's get crazy Yeah Let's just go find So we wound up going to the one in Pasadena Or Glendale? There's one somewhere else, there's one somewhere else It's also like that And we wound up with silver lake?

Might be silver, it was a lot of hippies Probably said it was like the total opposite I'm gonna tell you hippies all day I'll take like, you know, woke people with fucking green hair all day I am legends Bro, full on eye Full on eye legend I am legend, full on eye am legend Yeah Yeah To go down there and get a doughnut though is worth it LA doughnuts are the best, it's not even fucking close Really?

I think so Kind of like a New York bagel It's something about certain braids I feel like in certain places That hit different Bro when crispy creams coming out of the dough Right out of the oven, it's hard to fuck with anything else Nothing

Those glazed ones are maple glazed when they come in right out Baked Oh, Joe So good, so good You fucked me up though You have bread Joe I have really had bread I mean, maybe twice since we did the carnival Good Maybe twice Good You fucked it up Every now and then it's okay Every now and then it's okay The real problem is when it becomes a part of your diet Well, it's a normal part of your diet When I eat a piece of pizza my body is like, yo, what are you doing?

Look, relax You're having a drink I have a pizza Come on And then I don't eat for a while Let it clear out of my system Then I go back to eating clean But if you have that as a normal part of your life It's just like all these things compound, right? Yeah You know, you smoke too many blunts that compounds You, you know, eat too much bad food that's gonna look at that Right out of the oven Jamie, what are you doing? Did you post this?

Yeah, a long time ago Oh my god, look at that Look at that That is just diabetes in food form It just makes me want to feel sick And like, I'll take that temporary mouth plated for hours of feeling like dog shit Yeah Yeah, Joe Oh, it feels so good Yeah, the bread thing, Joe, this was the first time in my life I had had hot cheetos every day Would you prefer hot cheetos over tockies?

I know a lot of people are right I'm a, that's the black in me I think Because I'm a hot cheeto Mexicans love to tockies They love tockies You know, I really like them crunchy cheetos Some little tinier ones, the more crunchy ones That's what it was called Just, I'll tell you those are the regulars

And then you got the puffs I'll fuck with a puff Oh, I thought, when I think of cheetos, I always think of puffs Interesting, I think of the one you're thinking of The little ones that are like harder Yeah Yeah, I like those Yeah, I've had them every day of my life, Joe Until you said, hey, let's do the corn and void that I'm fucking 33 That's ridiculous That's ridiculous You should be, you know, Fritos, those little corn chips We use those to start a fire in Alaska We're a camping Yeah, what?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah One of the dudes that works for my friend Steve Rinalo told us That they're very flammable And I'm like, really? And so we used that to start a fire We were in Prince Edwards Island Which is Prince of Wales Island? Which one? Prince Edwards? Which one's the one in Alaska? Prince Edwards? Prince of Wales, what is that? I don't even know if that's a real place Prince Edwards, right? The one that's like Canadian Province Oh, which one in Alaska?

Might be right next to Alaska though No, it's not, that's the like the blue opposite side What is the one that's in Alaska? What was the other one he said? It's not Prince Edwards Island? That one's in your main Really?

That's what the map says Fuck, I can't remember the island Anyway, the island in a lot Well, Google, because it's one of the most rainy places on earth Brian Callanard did a TV show from there With, with, with mediator But it rained for seven, eight days Whatever the fuck we're there for We're there for Rained every day, all day What's the Prince of Wales?

Okay, it's Prince of Wales It rained every day And one day it didn't rain for like 10 hours We're like, dude, we're gonna start a fucking fire We're gonna figure out how to start a fire And so we got like Sticks and shit Like that's under everything else So everything got rained on Oh, is there a video of it?

Not you guys Oh, somebody else doing that Yeah, cause we didn't film us doing this But Fritos are so covered In life-stealing oil That they act like a fire starter, man Look at this They're great fire starters Like if you want to barbecue And you know, you don't want to go by You ever seen those things tumbleweeds? You know what a tumbleweed is?

No, sir Tumbleweeds are these little, it's like Little shaved pieces of wood That's like bundled up together And they must be soaked in some kind of flammable liquid But if you want to start like a grill You put one of those bitches down And then you put some sticks around that

And light that little tumbleweed And woo, you're good to go And then you start stacking logs Yeah, but you can use Fritos instead That's why I'm going You don't need those tumbleweeds You probably won't be as flammable But that should can't be good And I'm eating that shit Fritos are delicious And I'm fucking grateful little chili on the list What are those chilies where people add Fritos?

The add Fritos too that chili People don't call that all the time Yeah, I like the crunch Mmm, a little crunch is good Full experience Right? Well, the tangy, the spicy little cheese in there Yeah, how the fuck are you not fat, dude?

Now I'm under 200 which is rare Wow, I'm like 197 Which is nice But I just been real clinging on the diet the last few weeks Last few weeks I just started getting a little fat I started feeling a little bit of this And I started pairing on my gut I would get it straight to the gut

Because I have pretty thick abs too Yeah So any fat that goes on top of this Shoulder right here It's a barrel Yeah, it gets gross And it pokes out right here Yeah And it just starts looking gross I just see weakness When I see myself in the mirror My two week bitch You can't stop eating

You can't eat so much food bro Yeah, I eat so much food It's crazy how much I eat I'm a glutton, like a real glutton Man, I think you put it down brother I'll eat two pizzas I'll eat two pizzas I'll eat that whole pizza There's another one right there It's warm, is it warm?

I'll just go right in on that pizza I'm not hungry It's just gluttony I've seen you take down so many golden tiger burgers Bro When you could go it Bro, that one time we went out I ate four of them I ate four double cheeseburgers Gordon Ryan was freaking out Gordon Ryan was with his How the fuck are you eating?

I'm like dude, when I get going The wolf comes out The wolf just wants to go right there The wolf just wants to keep eating I gotta keep that motherfucker in his cage Yeah, you can go bro, that's my favorite joke When Joe starts drinking in the green room When Joe starts drinking in the green room When Joe starts drinking Oh, you can go baby We start talking shit Oh, it's the best, you start dancing Oh, bro, it's over Who has more fun than us? Who has more fun than us?

Nobody bro Oh, come on Dancing, we're dancing like all is ham No self-consciousness Everybody's having a good time And you're coming in from a set And then you're coming everybody's already dancing And shitting on, you know, Brian for saying something crazy

And you know what Tony's just roasting them And you're dying And you're like this is the best night of my life bro I love him, Brian comes off stage And he walks in and goes, whoa Because you know, we just laid it down Oh, my God Bro, when he was doing that walk bit When he was really tighten up that bit When it was just a... That bit was just assassination That was... That bit was one of those bits where I would go out there and just sit and watch it I watched it like...

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You going to close it up? He wouldn't even know what it holds with it It's like, please, please, just do it for me It would be his whole set But it murders, it murders so hard It's so good, it's like that's such a quintessential Brian Simpson bit Yeah Because it's clever, it's ridiculous

It's historical, it talks about him, it gives you real facts Yeah, it's so smart and it's about wow And it's full circle It's so close to you It's science involved, he explains like times How you multiply shit You know, like oh my god it's genius It's such a good bit There's certain bits where you hear the bit You go, god damn that's a good bit Like Shane Gillis' Navy Seal bit God damn that's a good bit You know I'm going to fake my favorite of his bits though?

I think is the George Washington bit For that very reason Yeah, yeah the teeth bro Well it's also because it's interesting And it's hilarious and you know That's a bit that it took some time That's not a bit that the first time you do it on stage you get that product Yes

Like Tony has a few jokes that the very first time he does the Mondays they murder and it's done Yeah, if it's done But like that, Shane's bit about George Washington is a lot That's a long bit man, that's a that bit is complex There's a lot of twists and turns

Yeah, just the angles he takes it's so cool Ah, it's so cool but with Brian Joe you know I started with Brian He was that what he is what you're seeing now he was that I met him Joe and he was that bro it was the coolest thing to be around that guy

Because I think he's just the greatest one of the greatest minds ever You know I'm lucky to be one of his best friends that's how I feel It's very humble too very very humble you know I mean until someone talks talk shit to him Well then he's gonna destroy you Oh shit, I'll show you the fuck up

But um yeah he's just got a unique way of looking at things And that's the wonderful thing about comedy I hate that word wonderful but it just was the right word for their job There's the thing about you meet so many different people And we all have this one thing in common

There's one thing in common we like making people laugh Yeah we like this thing we do this art form You know that's it There's the only thing I mean we're to be very so much About in so many different ways Yeah But we all have this like amazing bond Like that place is like

It's the comedy store times I don't know Yeah Times three times four something like that Yeah bro also we feel so like We were here just that we were here We all came before and open We were here to feel that Bro you were an early adopter You joke I came back

I came ago but I wasn't even sure I was like Yeah I'm just moved here I felt like One thing though about this is like That's one of the reasons why I felt like I had to do this Because I knew that all you guys had come out You guys are coming out here When we were at Vulcan during the lockdown Yep Thank God for my wife but that was her

Her call dog really? That was my wife She saw you guys there It hadn't even crossed my mind I was still in pandemic mind of like We're just here And I was like what?

She was like They're up Everybody's getting up And I'm like oh And I was like what the fuck am I doing I'm going all to Texas And moved March 2021 It was crazy because so many people were mad at us They're mad at us for doing shows I'm just like you out of your fucking mind Are you gonna just not do shows anymore Are you gonna not talk to people Like what do we do?

I'm here it was six weeks They started shooting guns in the air Shut the fuck up I saw old people with no masks on out here Really on Oh you can feel it shut the fuck up God I remember when it happened I remember when it happened I was talking to Brendan And right when I said man they're gonna hold L.A.

They said Derek you're a fucking idiot That would never happen I mean I was like oh my god Well I knew it I didn't know if they were gonna lock it down for a year But I knew L.A. was never gonna be the same Because there was a new attitude About law enforcement that happened after George Floyd I might go this place is in trouble Because when they had those cop cars Lid up on fire on the one 10 Is that what it was?

Yeah and they were like firing like Sender blocks and shit Spray painted on fire smashed Everything they were doing smashing grabs Everywhere and they were just letting them do it Like in Beverly Hills All they were doing was not letting people shop When it was dark out That was it

So during the day or at nighttime everybody just smashed and grabbed It was like the smashing grabs on Beverly Hills Or insane It was everywhere Crazy It was also people waiting for people After they were shopping they were just stealing from them After they would go shopping at the mall

And Beverly Hills Nice places in Beverly Hills nice stores That's how people were getting robbed I thought that should be people were going to rob I saw there was a car full of dudes That was parked in front of this gated community And they had no license plate on their car And I was driving in

And I remember looking at these dudes And them looking at me I'm like these are not dudes that are up to anything good Yeah And they have a car with no license plate on it And they're outside of this gated community And they could have been just waiting for the thing to go up

So they could sneak in behind it You know I was doing but I remember thinking like This is going to escalate You're going to get more of this I saw I was passing by this closing store And I saw these dudes smashed a window and run inside Crazy and woodland hills And woodland hills

It's like the sleepiest Most boring ass fucking neighborhood It's supposed to be the nicest Dr. Dre has a house out there Yeah That's where Whitney lived Yeah, that's where Shaw lives That's like that area is nice And they were smashing with it They lit a dumpster on fire

And pushed it in front of the front door at Target My friend was in there My friend was in there They yelled out through the loudspeaker They were telling everybody Put down everything you have Just don't go to the cash register Get out, get out now And they get outside And someone did lit a fucking dumpster on fire Bro, I'm so glad we got out of there Joe So when I came out here It was like, tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet Oh, okay Is the world gone mad or is just L.A. gone mad?

Is it parts of the world gone? It's like the scary thing about it was It was an experiment Not for real, like I don't think it was I don't have like this conspiracy theory that They did it on purpose. I think it was a lab leak Really? Yeah, it was accidental And I think they There's a lot of funding And there's also probably some It's probably biological weapons Research too They probably do because they definitely do Create viruses And they work on viruses for bio-weapons It's a real thing

Like bio-weapons is a real thing It sounds terrifying That someone would release a weapon on a city To kill everybody because But that's real And they're also China and Russia They're all the, I mean they use gas and war war war war And they use just blue gas on people

Brother, yeah, yeah, I don't watch people from the dead And think that's not possible That looks real, very real They would do something like that That could happen today again But the point is it's like I don't even remember my point My point was like that these kind of

These things when they happen They reveal how people react to them And people didn't react nearly as good as I hoped They they they they sectioned themselves off in these tribes Yeah That was what was weird man That shit broke people Joe It broke people It broke people people still wear masks Joe

Oh my god, yeah It changed like who the people are like They forgot that they used to not wear masks You can tell Some comics from Moon Tower were walking on the street In Ari saw this dude He had a giant mask on his face When the really fucking Form fit one secured down Just broken

Yeah, a lot of people were like that Broken, just broken But everybody got so tribal And it also It gave people an opportunity to be cut And so there was a lot of people In LA in particular And some in New York as well There were just Really miserable people And they were looking for an opportunity

To shit on someone publicly Because they felt like they could Because they felt like that person was vulnerable Because they were taking a controversial position Yes You know whether it's a controversial position like saying I don't want to get vaccinated

Or it was a controversial position of doing shows Live still People were blamed I saw a comic blame someone else for the death of their mother Blame a comic that's doing shows for the death of their mother For the death of their mother For the death of their mom Yeah like yo Talkin' about for a

Yeah maybe it was a respirator You know Yeah, 80% of the people they put them on I remember people saying that When I first moved here people doing shows And people were saying that My grandmother's gonna die because of you No, grandmother's just gonna die man Yeah, your grandmother's gonna die You're gonna die too, so am I What are we doing?

We're doing a day home for your grandmother And brewing children's lives That's never been the case Old people have always done the best that they can To make life safe for young people And by locking them down And by keeping them out of school And by making them wear masks

You didn't make the world safer You made it scarier You're gonna have more people with anxiety You're gonna have more lost years of development You're gonna be missing out on your education There's nothing good about that There's zero good about that

And if you did it to protect all people you're a fool Yeah, you're a fool Everyone young people is like There are people who miss their senior year Junior year, they didn't have it And I think about that's like a year that you need in your life It's a memorable thing

Bro, it became like a child sacrifice thing Like they didn't care about the children They didn't care what was happening then We have to protect our vulnerable It's not gonna protect them, it's not how it works It's like there's no, there's no science behind it In the age of science What the fuck is wrong with my voice today?

I think I got a cough button I'm like a professional Yeah, you have a cough button Yeah, we got a cough button If you had a cough, I should have gave that I should have gave that to Graham Hancock Some people just cough But in the age of science and reason People abandon science

To confirm their worst fears And to confirm all their weird anxieties Which is the reason why people believe That a mask that you could breathe out And you could protect you from a virus that's floating in the air Or that you're gonna stop a respiratory virus By just keeping children out of school

Shut the fuck up Like shut the fuck up with all this Or that all of a sudden the pharmaceutical drug company Should be trusted Like shut the fuck up You're not being reasonable You're acting like pussies And I'm not saying you're acting like pussies

Because COVID wasn't dangerous, of course it was dangerous I'm saying you're acting like pussies And you're not willing to look at the truth That it's gonna go against this thing that you have in your head that's a narrative That you've been sticking to this whole time Yes, people don't like to just...

Also people just don't like to be like, oh man I was wrong about that It's okay, nobody's... you're not a bad person to be like Man COVID came and I kind of freaked... I kind of went over... I went too far You know when it gets...

When it gets them is when they get vaccine injured Chris Cuomo just came out and said he's got a vaccine injury That guy was pushing that shit on TV Forever He got it with his first dose and then he got it again with his second dose Ladies and gentlemen, I apologize for that cough

I could have reached for that button, I got lazy I could have reached for that button I could have just pressed that button Wait, what's a vaccine injury Something happens when you get the COVID shot You know, it's not just the COVID shot There's... people that have adverse reactions to all kinds of medications Right?

But particularly to this one This is one... the first time they ever They've rolled something out to billions of people worldwide And some people had terrible reactions And one of them apparently was Chris Cuomo Interesting Yeah, people get a heart palpitations, bad blood worth, the clots

There's a bunch of different confirmed side effects that happen Myocarditis is some Also there's a thing about... you're supposed to... when you inject them You're supposed to aspirate When you inject it into the muscle because it's intramuscular

You're supposed to pull back the syringe to make sure that you're not hitting a blood vessel And they never do that Even on the president, if you watch the president give vaccine to your own TV I don't think you got vaccinated on TV What do you mean, Joe? I don't think they took that chance I think there was salt water in the tea I don't think they... I took that ship for real Well, I'm just saying on TV I'm sure they probably vaccinated him Did you have a side effect?

I was a adult I was fucked up What did it do to you? It felt like I got into a car wreck or something I was completely sore, really sick I remember being crazy tired Just tired Like two days Then it bounced right back But it felt like... oh man, Derek, you're sick Holy shit I think that's the normal reaction if it's working See, the problem is

When you have a bad reaction It's a negative way There's people that have had strokes And heart attacks And people have died right after the shot And no one wants to attribute it to the shot But a bunch of injuries They have to attribute it Definitely directly to the shot

You know, like they confirmed it When it's happened They won't say it's zero They were questions like how many people How many people are being honest about it How many people are even telling people about it Even though they feel like shit after they got vaccinated

Even though they have health problems They told people to get vaccinated Because so it takes like this A big moment of bravery To sort of admit Just step out and admit I got caught up in the madness of it all And I didn't know what the fuck I was talking about And I was shaming people

And telling people to do something Yeah This is New York Times now Now it's interesting because Alex Barron said It's hardcore gaslighting And his sub stack We go to his sub stack it's very interesting But this is in New York Times Thousands believe COVID vaccines harm them Is anyone listening

All vaccines have at least occasional side effects But people who say they were injured by COVID vaccines Believe their cases have been ignored Well they have, they have been ignored I have friends that have been ignored I never really hear that side of it though That's crazy Yeah

I was dragged into that world unfortunately I did not want to be in that world I did not want to be in the world of arguing Of people about medical information Or medical facts Or just whatever fucking pharmaceutical drug company propaganda You got a battle again

Who wants to be involved in that chest Yeah I just stay out of my life I'll stay out of your eyes You can trick people into doing this every year You do whatever you got to do But once you get dragged into it They don't give up, I knew it was evil when they were vaccinating kids

When they were forcing kids to get vaccinated because no data I mean none Zero so it was dangerous for kids All data pointed to that kids got over this very easy And that are elderly people Yeah My kids got it was nothing It was nothing It's elderly people It's vulnerable people, it's overweight people That was like a big percentage of the people that died For what money?

They're making money off of it And also to help people Feel better that are like Super anxious that their word their kids are going to give it to them But it's It was a wild time man to watch the whole world lose its fucking mind It was a wild time And it was a perfect time for us to come out here

It's perfect And we were right We were right people You guys are all back to normal life now except suckier Yeah, you guys are back in LL You're back to normal life but more dangerous, more crime, more sucky Shows are nowhere near as hot There's no, they are not as close to as hot as these shows in Austin, Texas Anywhere you go Joe, you can in a three block span I can get up six times

So what else shows? All hot Great liners That iron sharpens, iron feelings When I got to watch when I was at the store parking cars Door-guided and I got to see that So that's I know that this is happening here Yeah, we set up a destination It's a destination for comics it's like they're going to go visit Disneyland And everybody's welcome so they come all the time So we got Colin Quinn, Christopher Nolan Shane's in there all the time and Shultz when he comes by And Dave when he's in town

And it's a prize of like how he manned Del or something like what the fuck Yeah, yeah, Ron lights there all the time It's amazing, it's amazing, we're lucky shit man But it's almost like the universe wanted this to happen Because all the things that had to be in place for this to happen

Yeah, they're all just sort of like You know how when you drive in and you just keep hitting green lights Like the lights red but as you're pulling up Like do I have to slow down no green light Man, let's go That's what it was like like at every point we just kept hitting green lights Yeah

And everyone move it, Shane moving it did just And now the filling guys here and you feel more people are moving Yeah, when Duncan moved here that was big Tom was the early, he was one of the earliest Yeah, Tom was real early I was telling him I go dude, I go it's awesome here

I go people are friendly, there's no traffic And we can do comedy He's like I'm moving That's it, Tom was out here early He was, he was waiting for me, so that was cool to see big dogs To see like big dogs and big dogs who have to move like their families

Yeah, that's what I mean, so to me that's what made it more real too Because I'm looking at it like well I'm a comic I am more than a lose me and my wife have no kids We're just kind of flying by the seat of our pants But when you see people get up and move their families No, that's a decision

I don't think he's fucking around here Like I remember people saying he's never gonna build a club And it's fucking families here I don't think he's playing You know, that was the thing I was gonna do it the right way And I wasn't talking about it, I was saying it was gonna happen

But I wasn't talking about it too much I was dumb, oh Joe, I'm not gonna say names but you know who you fucking are Famous comics, saying he ruined you, oh man, he fucked up your career People said that to me in a song Ah, fuck, I love you Fuckin' piece of shit I mean, it's really operates on fear

Yeah, Bobby, I love Bobby the death Me too, that's the thing, I mean I love you, dark Also, he doesn't really mean it This episode is brought to you by Zippercruder running a business ain't easy Especially a small business You have to wear a lot of different hats to keep things running smoothly

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That's laughing Yeah, yeah, everything is kind of like that's one of the beautiful things about Bobby Everything's like half a gag but also like the reality that he doesn't like You know the anxiety of that move, the whole thing, the fear of it

And for you to do it he's gonna shit on you because you did a thing that he probably should do too Clearly, yeah, I mean I talked to when he was out here He's like fuck, I go just move here And I all say it right when they come right when they come They all are like oh you can see it on him Yeah, he left the club with two beautiful ladies

I was like where you going Bobby? He's like I'll be back I'm famous here I'm famous here No, I never really love him I'm doing what we said that though Yeah, they were scared They were scared I was like bro you made you had collis- we all have a stage Get the fuck out my face, doc Don't fuck up advice boy You're talking about right now, man Who the fuck are you talking to? Who the fuck is that dude? What the fuck is that dude?

I'm so glad I did, man Just so glad I did brother Yeah, yeah Yeah, man I'm glad you did too Change what, I mean that helped me meet Shultz I didn't know Shultz and L.A. I got here and then he was coming to San Antonio And Tony, he hit up Tony Hinchcliffe Thank God for Tony And he hit up Tony and said hey I need a host for tonight And Tony said I'll never It's awesome that Tony said that he showed me this too He said Shultz I got the perfect guy for you I think you guys will work well together

He called and he said man Tony told me he said I have a feeling you guys are going to be friends Yeah And now that's my brother He gave the wedding on with the hit like I love that guy Tony is one of the unsung best guys for like promoting talent

You know people don't think about Tony when they think about that Which is kind of crazy because that's what Kill Tony is Yes He doesn't get the credit that he deserves for like starting careers Like there's a lot of guys that they started their career with Tony Yeah

And he's like really good at promoting people Like he's a real generous about it And he's always talking about it And he's doing that off camera and off camera And he's doing that off camera He's doing that in the green room He'll tell us about how someone killed in the green room

About let someone open for him somewhere and they murdered And yeah He'll tell you to be like oh Joe look at this door guy Or watch this door guy like I see him doing He does it all this time Yeah Tony loves comedy He loves it he fucking lives it he breathes it

So having that guy in town too was huge And he moved real early on too You know Tony and me were best friends We've been on the road together like I don't know 150 fucking shows somewhere around that range Probably more than that over the years I mean I've been doing shows with him for

Fuck at least 10 years You know I don't even know when we started doing shows together But it had to be before 2014 I think I met him at the ice house Like way back in the day And so like I've seen that dude like really come together I've seen that dude like really become like a killer comedian

You know watch him on the roast last night Or Saturday night God damn dude God damn That one he said about Sam Oh she hell knows the pussy She oh hell knows Oh hell knows it Oh my god And the what about Bert Oh he was going in The Berzen King The Berzen King The Berzen King Oh bro

When it comes to that roasted shit Man I think he to go Tony's the best I'm not gonna say it But there was some forces They were trying to limit him From his ability to shine They see it they see he's coming for it They know he's coming for the title He's reckless and that's what they're not

Okay there's a there's a kind of like reckless comedy You know that like you you know You're gonna take the heat but you don't give a fuck You're going in That's reckless that's Tony Tony's reckless He's driving fast and he's gonna crash He's gonna crash But he's just like real confident in his mechanic Yeah he goes man He goes He's going for the comedy And that's what that's what comedy used to be

Right? Yeah And now there's a lot of people today They're like trying to color inside the lines And there's people that want to be funny But they also kind of want to appeal to the wokesters Yes They want to appeal to this ridiculous ideology That's very controlling But if they do

Then the comments that they read on Twitter will be positive Because those are the kind of like socially retarded cuts That sit at home all day and complain about things So if you want to get their input You have to kind of like feed into their nonsense And that ruins the comedy

That ruins the comedy It ruins great comics It does it turns great comics into cowards Yeah you see it You can see it while they're on stage You're worried about an acting job in the back of your head It's not even a real job You don't even have it yet It's just a job in the future that you might

I don't want to piss off It's like gross not even a real thing Yeah the connection between comedy and Hollywood Is one of the worst ideas of all time The Hawks, Anonymous, and Rockshows Literally like that That's literally how bad it is of a connection Yeah they don't belong in the same universe No, no, but the thing is Like they offered that carrot up to us They dangle that money carrot That carrot of TV Oh Derek don't you want to be in the movies?

Oh Derek don't you want to host your own sitcom Or be on a sitcom Or host a late night talk show Yeah that's how they get That's what you see you're like wow everybody loves Raymond Like all these great things And they are great But you're like one of the best things that happened to us

With the internet Because the internet did a bunch of different things One it made comics valuable to each other Instead of in competition with each other Because not only do we Everybody has a show Right if you have podcasts All our friends have shows Right so not only do they have shows

You can have them on as a guest Or you can go on their show And you need to promote something And then we all help each other And then we tell you hey check out Derek And the song The dude is the check out Tony Check out William And everybody does that And then everybody grows

But there's nobody loses Whereas in Hollywood If you were the host of the tonight show And I wanted to be the host of the tonight show But Derek's the host God damn it I fucking hate Derek I hope he crashes his car I hope he gets hooked on heroin And that's how there was

I mean that's that whole thing with the David Letterman and Jay Letterman And Jay Letter was waiting He was hiding in the closet son Hiding in the closet While they were having a conversation about him That's in there's too much That's insane And then I know that thing between him and Kone

And he's just like bro fuck all that And then everyone is chiming in And they're all like Like everyone Jimmy Kimmel Be raided Jay Leno If Kone was killing it That job wouldn't be available That's how that works But they did handcuff Kone When Kone took over tonight show Because Jay Leno did his show At 10 o'clock Like right before it right He did it during primetime hours So like he Yeah, just even hearing all that. Like, damn, I'm so glad I'm in this era. Fuck that.

The idea of the youth, like you said, just going on each other's pocket, since you started pockets Joe, pretty much, did you see, because when you started, you must not have known that, oh, we're all gonna go on each others. Where did you see that become like, oh, this is, what was the attitude that we had about the store was the same attitude that transferred into podcasts.

Because the attitude at the store, even in like the early 2000s, like when things were popping there, the attitude was like very supportive. If you were cool, if you're cool, and all you wanna do is just be friendly, and hang out, and have a good time, everybody was cool with you. If there was a real disagreement with people, 100%, someone was a con, 100%.

It wasn't just competitive bullshit, but in the nineties, man, dudes would like say shit to you before you went on stage, try to fuck with your confidence. Yeah, they make fun of your clothes, and talk about your hair, or say something. Just say something, do right before you went on stage. It was like, what? That sucks, bro. Pro. Bro, there was people that would like mock your act.

Like, they were like mock laugh from the back of the room, like, ha ha, you would hear comics say that, and then leave the room. Oh, just like, if I'm having a bad set, man, I know, I'm aware. Bro, there was so many haters. I remember there was dudes who were sitting in the back of the open mic night, heckling open micers, because they wanted them to leave so they could get up earlier. Yeah. Like, get this fucking show over. Next. Like, what, this person just darted? What are you doing?

I might fucking kill you, dude. That's, I would be so upset. I would be, that's crazy to do this in my life. There's also like, certain dudes like say, if you are right now, you're like a traveling middle act and there's a kid who's an open micer, and you see him coming, and he starts building up momentum, and then he starts going on the road, and then all of a sudden, this guy is headlining before you are. What the fuck? And that happens. And then he's selling out places. Fuck him.

You believe he's selling out theaters, man? Who, you believe that guy's selling out theaters? And you sit in the fucking hallway of the comedy store. You believe that guy's selling out theaters, man. This is bullshit. As in the hallway. That's fucking always. Stupid old dumb mentality, that stupid old famine mentality from mentally ill people who are narcissists. And they just can't believe that other people are having success, too.

It's not even, it's not even that they're not, you look pretty good. It's like no one's ever happy if someone's doing better. God, I, I, thank God for my best friends. We're Brian Simpson. Every time he gets anything, I mean, anything in his career, and you know how big he is, every time the first time you got on, you're first time you got on a Rogan, the first time you got the Netflix thing, he looks right at me every time it goes, your next. Yeah. Derek your next.

He doesn't need, that's the, no matter what he gets, he goes, Derek your next. And it's just to hear that every time from your guy that you were like, man, I want to be like this guy. It's got the best comic I know. Like, yeah, super sweet thing. It means everything. It means everything. And that's the, that's the, when you have that kind of environment, it feels good for everybody. This is what it's important.

The selfish feeling that you want, you want no one to do better than you, and you want to be like number one, and then if you see people doing better than you, you get angry, that selfish feeling is, it ruins you, because it ruins your relationships with people. You could have the exact same circumstances habit and be super happy for everybody, for you and for you. There's no tension. There's no need to it. There's no need for it.

And if someone makes you feel bad, I give you watch someone like, they're so good they make you feel bad, go to work. Go to work. That's a good feeling. That's good. When the tell was in town, I want to watch it tell, be like, I want to go home and write. I want to go home and write. This fucking guy is like, he's like a Zen master up there. He's like effortlessly killing. Yes. In a way that's like so, and so ridiculous and so unique. I was like, God, this is so good.

But if you're a hater, that's poison. You're watching, you're getting the exact opposite feeling from the same exact scene. The same scene. There's guys that, I've seen guys sitting in the back room, they were watching Chris Rock, and they're watching Chris Rock and their arms cross like this. Wotting him to suck, wanting him to suck, not wanting him to do well. Not just enjoying it. Enjoy him. This is, why do you think it's great? Yes. Aren't you a fan of this? Well, it only has to be you.

You're the only one that could be funny. That's crazy. That's crazy. You can't have a good time. So you're missing out on having a good time just so you could be selfish. There's a zero upside. And it ruins your life. Like now you're at home, man. Like it's just ruins your day, you're all white. Like everything's ruined. And if someone does fail that you wanted to fail and you feel good, you should be embarrassed. You should be embarrassed by that feeling.

You should be like, what a weak bitch I am. You get it with a Sebastian. You should be embarrassed. You should be embarrassed. I'm embarrassed. You really should. 100%. But I think this is all like, people need to learn this. You need to learn this and learn it in a way where it doesn't feel bad if you take it on. You don't feel like a fool. Because we've all been fools. I've been a fool. Everyone's in this room. Everyone listening has been a fool. We've all been in fucking moron.

That's how you learn and grow in life. But if you stick to the old ways, you'll just be unhappy and mentally ill. Yeah. Yeah, your therapist's not gonna save you. I mean, John, you might even remember this. I learned a lesson in that in comedy, being young and just talking too much and just being kind of angry and wanting more as a daughter. And you talked to me. I don't know if you remember that. You got on me one time. Hey, Derek, you got to shut up, man.

I don't even remember you telling me to do this. What was this? Was that the store? This was at the store. We'll be the playabout. I'll just run it on my mouth complaining about, I want more. I just wanted more. I just wanted more and I was talking too much. At the end of the day, I want to get all of the specifics. I was talking too much and you did that and that was good. I needed that. You have some trust in it. We get wrapped up in our own shit. Like the process is long.

Like if I was trying to tell someone right now to be a comic and they were like 26 years old, I'd be like, okay. You ain't going to be famous until you're 40. I'm like, if you make it, if you make it. You know, you've got to be willing to throw it all away and you've got to be willing to go through this weird path where you want things and they're not happening and you get angry and that's where you were. Yes. You wanted things and I was like, Derek, you got to be undeniable.

Yes. You got to be undeniable. When you're undeniable, it's all going to come your way. But all this talk is not good for anybody. It's crazy, you just don't, but I'm glad I went through that. You know what I mean? I'm glad that happened to me because at the time it felt like, you know, you're like, oh, but man, I'm glad I went through it because now it's just so much better to enjoy. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Yeah. And it's almost like you have to go through, I had those feelings.

I remember being in an open mic night night, wasn't on the list, I couldn't get on the list. I was like, angry like, why can't I go up? This is bullshit. Yeah, I'm funny with this person. You start saying things like that. And it's like, well, what is it? It's stupid. It's just like, you just have to deal with the grind. It's like the part, it's part of the thing. Part of the thing, it's like what makes you better. It's like those uncomfortable things they build inside of you.

Those uncomfortable moments and feelings they add inspiration, they add determination, they add discipline, they make you focus more. Yes. And the tapes that make you go over your, go through your notebook, you know. Man, I really appreciate those comedy store times. I think everyone should be not a doorkyver, man. It's just, it's good. I think it's just good for you to just sit and learn. You have no choice. You're there.

It's dope about the comedy store too, was the fact that there was a real attitude that everyone was a comic, including the doorpiece. Yes. The doorpiece to me were me when I was 23. I was like, what's up? What's going on, man? Yeah, everything cool. I met you big hug. First thing you said, yo, what's up? New guy. I remember like it's yesterday, dude. All you guys. Oh, man. Yeah. The coolest thing, one of the coolest things about stand up that I learned from you, Joe.

It was, so when I got there, you were finishing trigger. Like you were, you were, that was about to come out. So you were doing the, on the stool, but the K-Lin Gin, I mean, it was so tight. You were going, standing, oh, every time you did it, it was nuts. Then the special came out. And then you start gearing up for strange times. And the only person I've ever heard they say would do this was Richard Pryer, where he would come in after he dropped the special. And he would bang out material.

And you'd see it for the first time you're like, okay, I kind of see the skeleton. I saw the skeleton of strange times. I was like, oh, yeah, I guess. And then the next day, you'd see the, a little bit of muscle on it. And then the next, you didn't, you never abandoned it. Even though it wouldn't hit in like how the other stuff was hitting, or something like that, it wasn't going as well as maybe you wanted it to. You never abandoned it. You never were like, oh, I'm gonna do crowd work.

I'm gonna say an old bit and get out of this. No. And then I saw strange times, but come strange times. And that was amazing to see. It takes a long time to get a bit going. And if you bail on it, when you fr- every one of my bits, except for a few, sucked in the beginning. There's just, they're clunky. Yes, you don't know how to do it, right? You can see you were trying to find it. You know, it's a terrible process. It's terrible, it's terrible process. It really is. It's a terrible process.

Brian Simpson did it the smartest way. What Brian did was he had his whole hour laid out. And then before he filmed his hour, he created a new hour. So he started adding material to set over the course of a year till he had another hour. And so then he films the special and he's got an extra hour. That's Brian Simpson. That's Brian Simpson's plans for the future. He has his socks laid out by his bed. You know what I'm saying? Brian Simpson is playing for the future.

Brian gave me a book on what to do if the world collapses. He gave us all that book. Yeah, like the book of man or two. Yeah, whatever is the book. I think it's called the book. It's how to rebuild society. I'm like, what the fuck are you planning? Brian's got books planned on how to save society. Yeah, he's one of one man. Yeah, we're real lucky. We're real lucky. And he's another guy that came out here really early.

Yeah. So when everybody was out here early, you know, I had gone through this thing where I had the first club in the deal fell out the cult house. Yeah, we got down glad we didn't get that one. That would have ruined everything. Yeah, that would not have been as... No. Because the placement of this one. It's perfect. The fact that it's on that maniac street. Yeah. Yeah, that street's alive. Yeah. That street's alive. I like that because that's an audience member when you get there.

You're like, you're now awake. You don't get the wand or anything. It's not even a mall or some shit. It's like, no, you're awake now. But when the deal fell through with the cult place and then we walked into that movie theater when it was a movie theater still, I remember walking in there going, oh shit. I was like, okay. This is it. It was so clear. It was like you hear a sound in the distance of the direction you're supposed to go to. You're bone. Oh. Okay. Here we go. That's how it felt.

It really felt like that. It felt like, God damn, man. This place is alive. This place has like, it's got memories. Yes. It's TV ray. What? What? What? Steve Ray Vaughan was on that stage. Willie Nelson was on that stage. Yeah, man. All those dudes in the green room, all those posters are in the green room. Yeah. Those are all real shows from the Ritz. Yeah. I did not know that. Yeah, man. A lot of bands played there. A lot of bands. Yeah. So you could feel it in the walls.

There's a lot of things happen in that place. It used to be a pool hall. It used to be a newty movie theater at one point in time. She is in there, bro. Buckets. There's a movie theater for the longest time where it was an Alamo Drafthouse. That was more than 10 years. It was a lot of things. It was a punk rock bar at one point in time. Yeah, that place has got history. It's from 1827. I'm 19. 1927, right? Is that right?

Yeah. 1927. Yeah, 1927. 1927. It's 100 years old, essentially, or close to it. I mean, it's very common to store vibes in that, because the commissaries would be seros. And it was like where the mafia would be. And all this cool, weird stories. You feel the building, you can feel it. And this does have that. Mitzies feel in a Mitzies late night. It's for like, the energy in that. It's awesome. Well, it's also the energy's been baked in just in the year that we've been open.

Yeah. Bro, that year flew by. Okay. Yeah, flew by. If flew by, it makes me think, I'm going to be dead real soon. I don't know if you know that I have my time. How much time do you have? I go this time. If I go through 50 more of those, it'll be a miracle. So that's not going to happen. I know. I go through 50 of them. It's not possible. Wow. Did you think that? When you set it up, like I'm setting this up for when I'm gone, this baby, this, like the comedy story, it'll just run.

Well, I want, I didn't think that. No. I just thought to set up the best thing you could set up. That's all I thought. I thought, like I have this crazy, unique moment where not only did the world shut down in Texas, didn't, but also all these comedians came out here to do shows. And I got this Spotify deal. And I'm like, okay, I'm supposed to do this.

Like if anybody's supposed to do this, like if you were a kid and they said to you, if you got all this money, what would you do when I do, I'd make the ultimate of using park. Just a name, my friend. But nobody ever does that. You know, like people get fuck you money and they never say fuck you. And I don't get that. Like if you have fuck you money and you don't say fuck you, what you're doing is it's to crime against fortune.

You have the incredible fortune to have fuck you money, the incredible luck, the incredible fortune to be in this weird position where all these comedians decided to come to this place because you and your friends were there. I mean, like Ron Whites, he's the fucking leader of the pack. Pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, because Ron was out here before COVID. Ron was out here in like 2017, I think, or 18. Was he retired yet already or no? He wasn't retired, but he was like, I fly out of Austin.

It's much easier. You're in the middle. You can fight fucking two and a half hours in New York, two and a half hours to LA, fucking people are nice, food's amazing. I was like, damn, maybe I could, because I had always entertained leaving LA, but the store just always kept me there. The store and my friends. Yeah. Jiu Jitsu. I mean, I tried for a while, tried moving to Colorado for a little bit, but the store always pulled me back. It's like that. There's, you can't replicate that. You did.

Yeah, well, it's not like there's no other way it could have ever happened. It had all those things had to happen in place where the comedy store had to get shut down so we can get all the people that worked at the comedy store to come over and start the mothership. People that like Eric Curtis and Adam, yeah, and Jody and, and, and, and, and, and, and, carry, carry, carry the shit. Like it wasn't for carry. The mom. She's the best.

She's the best at the store. So when she's over there, it's like, oh, this is wonderful. You know, and then she knew all the right servers and then, you know, we get this vibe going and then the whole idea and Adam's, it was Adam's idea to do it the same way the store was. I was a little apprehensive. Like, man, comics cause problems in their employees. Like, a lot of us are dirt bags. Yeah. A lot of us are crazy. Jiu, I robbed the comedy store. I robbed that fucking place. Here's the point.

Yeah, I robbed it. Yeah, I robbed it. Yeah, I robbed it. I robbed it. But it wasn't just me, maybe. A son, Brian, we owe you money. Oh, yeah. But I'm sure. You were just, I mean, I mean, we're hustling cause it's like, well, I'm only making a couple bucks. I didn't get up. I'm going to fucking hustle this door, trying to stay alive. Trying to stay alive. Yeah. I mean, but there was that problem. That was like, but Adam was like, yeah, but you know what?

There's something really cool about people like auditioning. Because now Adam is running it, so we didn't have to have this like, we, this is one of things that I told him because there's a pressure that he had an LA to have like X amount of women and X amount of gay people. People talked about it and they would email him. They'd complain to him. People would confront him. You know, how can we not have more women on your lineup?

Girl, girl comics would say, I said, listen, man, this is 100% meritocracy. I know you're not sexist. I know you're not racist. I know you're not homophobic. You don't care. All you care, but you speak the language of funny. This will be a pure meritocracy. And if you're really good, you're going to get through. And if you're bullshitting and just using whatever the fuck group you're a part of as like a Willy Wonka golden ticket, it's going to get you a career. Fuck you.

Okay, that shit doesn't work here. Yep. You know, I love that. With that, there is the best way to make a diverse show is just like you said, put the funniest people up. The show will naturally, it will naturally diversify itself, baby. We have so many different people working there. Everybody's different. And different in all kinds of ways. There's gay and straight and there's black and white and ancient. No one fucking cares. Yep. I've even noticed it because all we think of is funny.

No one cares. No one cares. All the cares, are you funny? Yep. Can you go up there and do the damn thing? I saw it in 9-11, no one gives a fuck. He's just a funny dude. We all just forgive him. It's how funny you've met these assholes. That's a shit. That boy, he's coming a long way, man. That Joe ideas was just telling me on the phone yesterday. I was on the phone with Joey yesterday. He's like, well, I saw him blew my mind. He goes, he blew my mind.

I remember that kid when he was just starting out. Yeah. He's out there. He's fucking, Joey's coming. He's coming. Joey's moving. He's coming again in a couple of weeks. He's going to be back. He's going to be back for quite a while. And then we're going to get him a place. He's going to get a place on just in the neighborhood. He's moving. He's got him move here. He can't stay in New Jersey. And I'll do your respect in New Jersey, but I'll do your respect. He needs to be around his peers.

You saw it when he was here. Yeah. You can feel it on a man. And as the days went, how much more comfortable, like he, oh, he started moving like Joey when Joey would be in the main room. And it was like that when he left that man. Where was he going? He's in. He's back. Oh shit. His wife's down too. She gets it. She's the best. So it's perfect. So when Joey gets here, that'll change everything. God damn, that's going to change everything. Joey's going to be working on Theo. Theo's coming soon.

He's going to be here. What's to that? He's going to be here in 10 days. Yeah. So we'll have Theo here for a couple of weeks. And then Theo said he might come down for the whole month of July. You're fucking Samuel Jackson with the Avengers, baby. You're just kidding. You're just kidding them all around him. I'm recruiting man. I'm recruiting. But I only want people that want to be here. Like if you don't want to be here, it's like, I get it. I get it. There's no pressure.

You don't have to come here. But it would be nice. It's fun. Joe DeRose, I got a place here. Joe DeRose. Let's go. DeRose is the man. Everyone you're saying. But everyone you're saying also great phenomenal beast of a comic. Yeah. And nice people. That's the big thing. The big thing is all real friendly, real nice people. And the more that, the better. And there's plenty of spots. There's so many clubs and red bands clubs killing it. Yes. Was it a 13 second walk from my club to red bands club?

You can get up. You got three chairs. Right next door, creaking the cave. Always a great room. Right down the street. This little place. Black rabbit, which I love right there. You'll get up. I mean, they're all within a black rabbit to and stand up now. How long have they been doing stand up? I don't know how long they've been open. But that's a remain a time. It's just such a little 50 seat box. So me and a son just love that little stuff. And bro, the Vulcan is still a banger of a club.

Shout out to the Vulcan. If you can get up there, that's a great fucking show. The Vulcan is a great room. And then you can drive over to Cap City. I mean, it kept us alive. Joe, right? It's the old. It kept blood in us, bro. That place was like a mask that we were all sharing. Like scooping diving. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Just, we give it to each other. We're staying alive, you know? That place shows us a lot. Those two of them Wednesday Thursdays just, oh, he just was just getting through.

Get in through. That place kept us alive. And then of course, Killtony. How didn't Killtony in the town changes the town? Because now all that, there's all these temptations to go down the road of fuckery when you're first on stage. You want to try to like make yourself out to be something you wish you were. You want people to think you're smart. You want people to think you're cool. And if you have five minutes, sometimes five minutes is too much in the beginning.

You really don't deserve five minutes. You deserve a minute. Is everyone minute? There should be a bunch of people doing one minute. And there should be like belts, like you're a white belt. You just started out. OK, you've been doing comedy six months, eight months. Maybe you're ready for your blue belt. Depends on how much you're getting on stage. And then a couple of years after that, now you're a purple belt. Now you're opening up for really good comics when they're on the road.

You know, this guy's in town. You can open for him. Colin Quinn wants you to open for him. Oh, shit. Now you're purple belt. Now you start going on the road as a middle act. Now you're a brown belt. You know, now you might have 20 murderous minutes. You know, you might be doing stand-up six, seven years. You're a brown belt now. And then eventually you move into headlining. And then you get your black belt. And then you realize, oh, people are coming to see me. OK. Whew. I got to work.

You know, they're coming to see me. That's a different thing. Sit down. You know, like it has to take probably, like, I will run away from a conversation if I get an idea. Because I know they're slippery. They're slippery. They're slipped through your fingers sometimes. Sometimes you just have a great idea. You're like, like, my family gets it. My wife gets it. I'll go, hang on. I got an idea. I just have to say, I have an idea, and everybody leaves me around. And I just run away. I run away.

So no one could talk to me. And then I grab my phone, and I just start either talking into it, which is the best, because then I can keep it quicker or I start writing it. That's beautiful, bro. I've seen you do that. Were you just completely sfft? You know what Neil Brennan said to me once? He said, I think of my notebook as like a net that I catch my ideas in. I was like, ooh, ooh, Neil Brennan's a smart motherfucker. That's a great quote. That is because of the net.

This is exactly what it is. It's a good net. The moment you do the thing where you're like, oh, you think of something like, I'm going to write it down later. Yeah. It's gone. Bro, you know why I'm been thinking about going to Android? Because Samsung phones, when you, if you record your sets, transcribes them. Really? Yeah. With AI. And it'll summarize it for you. Crazy. That's f**king it. Brian Simpson's right about that too. He's got that f**king galaxy phone. Tony's always making fun of him.

And I'm like, Tony, do you understand what that phone can do? That phone can translate, like built into the phone, can translate you talking to a ton of different languages, like instantaneously translate. Why are we still on iPhones? Because we're trapped. Also, it's a safer operating system. That's the thing that I've been really getting into. I've been really researching, like, exploits. And I watched quite a few videos.

But I also read a story where they were talking about, when they were trying to see, they had an iPhone and an Android phone, and they checked to see which one was contacting foreign servers based on the apps. And it was way more the Android. The Android was contacting foreign servers way more, contacting China and Russia. And the iPhone one was like one or two a day. And it's based on, there's a lot of shit going on that we're not thinking about, right? What you're interested in is valuable.

So if you're scrolling through Google, and you're looking at a bunch of different products, you're looking at a bunch of different things, Google gets that information and inserts those ads into your browser. So then when you go to a website and you say, oh, I was looking at those shoes. How do those shoes for sale right here? It's just click here. It tells you the price. Oh, what a bargain. And you're thinking about it. That's valuable, right?

And so that's what they're constantly trying to scoop up. They're trying to scoop up your data. They want to know what you're doing, what you're listening to, what you're watching. What do you, what do you, what do you, you got Netflix, what do you got this, you got that, you got YouTube premium, what do you got? Do you got money? Are you broke? You got a Tesla. Ooh, you got a Tesla, you got a Tesla app. There's so there's all this data that your phone carries.

And iPhone is pretty good at keeping that data. They're like a cool, cool system, right? And then what they call themselves? Yeah, a walled garden. Yeah. Android's not so good at that. Android is the opposite, it seems like. It's got open source, which is really good. So a bunch of different people can make apps. But the problem with that is you could get apps that are malware. You can get apps that will get, that will infect.

You're a wild motherfucker just downloading every app that's on the Play Store. I don't think they do as good a job. And I think you can, can't you side load on Android's as well? So this pros and cons, man. This pros to like, if you make an Android app, like you could just say, you know, why is there a fucking app for this? And you could design an app that does it, and then just throw it up on the Play Store. And people could just download it and put it. But you could be a criminal.

And you could put some shit on, you know, either side loading or put some shit on, you know, one of these places where you can download apps. And inside that, it's something like to just steal all your credit card information on your phone. If you're using like, you know, Google Pay or whatever. Some Google Pay or some shit. There's apps that can, they can, when you sign up for TikTok, they can, they know your keystrokes. They know all your keystrokes. So everything you type, it knows.

Not only that, it has access to computers that don't have TikTok on them, that are on the network. So if you have a computer, but your computer doesn't have TikTok, but you have TikTok on your phone, they have access to your computer. I know that sounds crazy. That sounds like that couldn't be real. Joe, why would they do that? I think it's more than them. And this is what Adam Curry said. Like Adam Curry saying, like, this is a TikTok band.

He goes, believe me, he goes, the real problem with TikTok is that they're doing a better job of keeping people addicted. And that they don't like the idea that China is dominating this social media game. Yeah, TikTok's good. It's good. They figured out a way to make it very, very, very addictive.

But they're getting data, constant data of what you like, what you're interested in, what you get mad about, what you comment on, how you comment, what you like with hearts, what you, yeah, what you keep going back to and don't tell anybody about. Yeah. If you look in your fucking, if you're looking your search, and it's all butts, it's all butt, fat butts. That's because you like fat butts. And they know you like fat butts. You know?

Yeah, look at other people's feeds they're very different than mine. If you look in that search area on Instagram, like it's basically, they know me. They know what I like. Animal tax, fast cars, bear knife, bear knife, kick to the face. Nice butts. Yeah, it's like, but that data is super, super, super valuable. And it's all in like, how does one get access to that data? You know, do you get to access through some sneaky backdoor shit or do you get access to normal way?

And but Apple does a better job of protecting your information, I think. Yeah. And you know, I think, too Joe, why we don't want to change? It's something about the blue. Mm-hmm. I don't know where it is. It's something about I send the blue to you and I get a blue back. I like that. Yeah, we're on the same team. We're on the same fucking page. What the fuck is wrong with us, Joe? We have those group workout texts and we send them, they have to go green because of fucking Brian. Brian Simpson.

We have multiple chats. Even though Apple is adopting this RCS platform, so RCS, it's not platform, what would you call it? Protocol. Protocol. Thank you. RCS is, what is it called, rich something? I forget what it stands for. But it basically is, is like most of the way to an iMessage, but through text message. Because right now, a text messaging, rich communication services. So that's the standard that everybody else is operating on, that Google's operating on.

OK. If I have a Google phone and I text you to a Samsung phone, it will be like that. RCS, it's encrypted. Green bubbles may not be going anywhere, but there's still hope for less archaic messaging experience. So RCS is now going to be on iPhones with, I think iOS 18. Is that what it is? I think it comes out by the end of the year. So by the end of the year, like right now, if Brian sends me a text message, and it is a picture in it, that picture is going to look very dark shit.

Yes. It's going to be compressed. If he sends me a video, it's nonsense. I can't barely see it. It's like a little tiny square. What the fuck are you saying? You sending me, bro. So we have to go on WhatsApp or Signal. And on Signal, he can send me the whole video. And I just say, OK, I got the video now. But there's so many things you can't do. The big one is FaceTime. FaceTime's big. I get random FaceTime is from friends sometimes. And I love it. Yeah. I love it.

Bert will send me a random one. I was hanging with Brian. This is a big moment, too. It's a cool moment. I was hanging with Brian at the Black Keys. We went to see the Black Keys at Stubbs. And we're chilling backstage in that outside area. You know that outside the cool area. And we're hanging out with the Black Keys and Dave Shepel FaceTime's me. So I'm hanging out with Dave and Dave sees Brian. He goes, oh, what's up, dog? And they start talking. And he goes, hey, I love you, man.

I think you're really fine. So they're like going back and forth. I'm like, this is amazing. Like Brian is getting recognized by Dave. That's awesome. And he was like, he was beaming afterwards. He see Brian was like, you know, I can't imagine. It was great. I love those fucking random FaceTime calls. That's awesome. Bert sends me to me all the time. I love a random FaceTime call from a friend. It's beautiful. It's nice. Because I like calls from people. Random calls from people annoying me.

Like, why you call me, bro? Yeah, what do you want? You guys, FaceTime, that's usually just something funny. It usually just something funny. Someone cool. Cool people. Like when cool people send you a FaceTime, it's like, wow, that's pretty badass. That's pretty badass. God, they should've held. Yeah. God, he introduced me to you. My introduction to Joe Rogan was, Joe Rogan, we're gonna look for a pair of New York boobs. I never heard of you before, dog.

I think that was all like, who the fucking Joe Rogan? You know, that was an accident. What? I wasn't supposed to be on that. Yeah, I was walking down the street. And I saw Dave with a fake mustache on him. I'm like, what are you doing, man? I was in New York doing stand up. So I was doing a club and I was walking down the street and I ran into Bobcat Goldway. You know, Bobcat's the best. And Bobcat was directing Dave on his first episode. And so Bobcat was there. I go, what are you guys doing?

I go, what's the fucking mustache man? He's like, hey, Joe, you want to be on my show? I go, what do I have to do? He's like, we're gonna hand out ribbons for the best New York boobs. I go, yeah, I go, I got like an hour. And then I have to meet some people for dinner and then we're gonna go to do my show. Yeah. So let's do it. So for one hour, like walked around with Dave, where I carried around a bunch of buttons, I think, or ribbons for the ribbons. You were carrying the ribbons.

I already was handing them out to big fans. And you're just smiling. Dave has his crazy fake mustache on him. So this is awesome. Looking for great New York boobs. Now, I want you to think of this. This is 2002, I guess. Yeah, it has to be. 2002 or 2003, whatever, guess two. Imagine how crazy different New York is. Wow. In just 22 years. I was there the other day. I don't, yeah, this crazy. This is dangerous now. And this same area, look at me with the forehead area. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Crazy.

Oh, they blurred someone out because they didn't sign the release. See that one person with their face blurred out? See that? No release. Yeah, they blurred that lady out. She's dangerous. Yeah, they blurred people. Oh, I saw his face. I know that guy. He's like, these should too. They did a shitty job. Oh, these guys are my kids. Jesus. That's illegal now. Oh, they would be so mad. Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? That'd be a salt. Yeah. That would be slavery. That'd be everything.

It would be everything. You're going to jail. I got one interaction with Dave Spell. Now, I hold on to this forever. This is why I be in a door guy's the best, Joe. I'm parking cars one night. All right. And it's my turn. I'm waiting to go up in the belly room. It's two people in that motherfucker show. But I'm waiting. It's finally my turn. One of my other door guy friends shut up, Matt Lockwood. He's bringing me on stage. It's only two people in the room. He's fucking around.

This next comic used to sleep on my couch. He's a piece of shit. I did. He smoked all my weed. You know, Dave walks in. During the turn, and it's going and going. As he's still bringing me up. And then Dave, and I'm like, looking out like, bring me up. Bring me up. Come on. Like Dave's in the room. Bring me up. And he keeps going. And then Dave goes, all right. I'm going out. And I'm like, God damn. Dave walks up. And he's like, my friends, like, oh shit guys Dave's in hell.

The two people are like, what the fuck? He grabs a mic and he goes, I don't know who Derek Poston was. But that niggas credits were terrible. And then I go downstairs because now I'm going watching him. And then of course the room's filled up as the night went on. It's Dave. He's there for a couple hours. And then I'm downstairs parking cars again. And somebody said, Dave's looking for you. I run back up. And then Dave's going, you know, yada yada. You know, Derek, I'm going to bring you up.

You deserve a shot. You deserve a chance and all that stuff. And I'm like, yo, dawg, thank you man. And he goes, oh shit, nigga, you black. I wouldn't have bought you. I wouldn't have bought you. I wouldn't have bought you. I want to, and then, if I had two people, that's a little weird. By the end though, it was sold out. It was crazy. I've seen people come in the room. And that was just such a, like, man, I'm so glad that had crazy memory.

Dave is a real artist in that, like, he embraces this process of just exploring things on stage. And it's how he writes. So people will complain about it. That's a plane that he goes for so long. Like, you don't understand. You're watching, like, you're watching George St. Pierre lift weights. OK? That's what you're watching. You're going to see the fight eventually. But right now, you're watching George do squats. Yeah. That's more. Yeah. But you're getting a rare opportunity.

And it's not the same experience, right? Like if you see Dave with a tight set, he's filming a Netflix special. He's going to murder. He's going to murder son. Murder, murder, murder, death kill. Right? But the process of creating that murder death kill is like a boiling down process. You start off with an idea. And Dave will just run that idea raw. Yeah. And then someone film him.

And then he goes over it and he pieces it apart and tries to figure out what was good and what was bad and why it worked and why it didn't work. Yeah. And operate on that level of doing it for four hours and doing it at three in the morning where it's like another time they're done. They're beyond tired. They've been deep to shit. It's 2 a.m. But if he can get 10 minutes out of that or five minutes or one minute, it's worth it. Because you do 50 of those shows. You got a new hour.

Yeah. That's the thing. I mean, nobody wants a bomb. Chris Rock needs to do it all the time. He used to tell people like someone would kill at the store and Chris would show up. And he would purposely bring the audience down. He goes, real ax. He's saying going to be very good. He would tell them. I've seen him once, do that, where he straight up off the note pad. And he was like, what do you say? He's going over the skeleton of it right now, guys.

Like, he was pretty much like, this is the, you're getting the bare bones. And it was like, whoa. Yeah. And that's the way to do it. Damon Wayne's just to do that too. Damon was great at that, man. Damon is the most unsung of the greats. Yeah. My opinion. I remember Damon's HBO special, the last stand was fucking excellent, excellent, dude. And he was one of the first dudes that I saw on stage when I came to LA. That was like a famous guy that stopped by.

I was like, oh, shit, Damon Wayne's is here. Dude, he was excellent, excellent. And he would do that too. He would explore ideas. He would just go up there and just fuck around for a long last time. Wow. Yeah. And back then, like Damon doesn't get the respect that he deserves. He doesn't get the love anymore. People don't, because he did sitcoms and shit, he kind of got out of the comedy loop, did movies, people forgot. But dude, I am telling you, man, when he was on, whoo, he was a master.

Very like Chappelle, very much that level, masterful. Is this Dirty, is like in living color time too? Wow. Bro, Damon Wayne's, he's one of the all-time greats. He just doesn't get appreciated the way he should. Wow. I mean, I've seen these guys live, like when they were in their prime. And Damon was, he was just so clever and so silly and he would be laughing. It was genuine laughter. And he was having a good ass time on stage and talking about ridiculous shit. He was great, man. He was great.

And he was another one of those guys that would just take his time. He would just go up there with some bear, he would show up on fucking Wednesday night, 11 o'clock. Oh, Damon's here. Damon's going to go up and they'd let him up. And if 15 fucking people in the crowd, he'll be on stage for an hour. For an hour, just fucking around and just trying to come up with bits, trying to find out if there's something there and dig in a little hole. So he has to dig himself out.

Yeah. You know, trying to laugh at stuff. You have interesting process because you do that to yourself. You'd be like, all right, who is the most famous, who are the best comics in the world? Let me do an hour and a half of that and then I'll go up. It's like, they've been beat to shit by Shane Gillets and run white and don't even try and sense them. Assign them out. And then you go up. And it's like, what the fuck is running with wait time? That's what it is. Yeah, you run with wait time.

You got to hit that stage running. You know, I learned that going on after Joey. Because Joey, for 15 minutes, Joey Diaz will punch a hole in the space time. Joey Diaz get punched up fucking hole in reality. And if 15, 20 minutes of Joey Diaz is just like following that, you got to come on stage, like fully engaged. Yeah. And one of the things you see from guys that tour with soft acts, the tour with like weak opening acts, and that's all the comedy they do, they get soft.

You get soft in like your appreciation for the audience's attention span or soft for, have you made that bit the best that it could be or is it just adequate? Is it working? But it, or is it like optimized? Like, where is it at? Is it where you're happy with it? Or have you just kind of accepted that's the form it's in because you do it that way every night. You know, and when you go on after murderers, there's no room for anything but tight. Yeah, everything has to be tight.

And you have to be really there and engaged. People have seen an hour and a half of comedy before you even go on stage. Yeah. An hour and a half of murderers. Murderous. Murderous. I get so jealous too, I'm sitting in the back. Oh god damn, why can't I go on now? Half an hour in the show. And it's your show too, you're doing it to yourself. That's amazing. But I think that's the best way to do it. It's the best way for me. Yeah. I don't think I've ever been sharper like right now. It's sharp.

Yeah. And that's what it is. I think it's just concentrating. It's like everything else, man. It's like how much do you think about it? You know, I would say that like doing stand up is like, let's say if you have what is a value. Let's give a value of doing stand up, you give it a value of 100. Okay. If you watch yourself to stand up, that's like 50 or 60. So it's like an extra set almost. If you do two watches and one performance, it's like you did two sets. That's what I think.

Listening to it, listening to it is like 40 or 50. But it's better than zero. It's definitely better than zero. So if you could force yourself to listen and you force yourself to watch those add up like in terms of the overall amount of effort you've put into what you're doing, right? So it's not just the time you're on stage, but it's also how much do you think about it afterwards? Because if you could just grab it after, it's I don't wanna do it when I get home.

When I get home, I wanna like watch YouTube videos on ancient civilizations. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what? Yeah. I don't wanna write, but if I force myself, then I get fired up and then I, and then once I'm in it, now I get it and I feel it. And if I could force myself to listen to recordings or watch a recording after I do it, I'm so much more engaged the next time I do it. It like everything, everything like moves up a notch.

So instead of it being a value of 100 because I just did a show, I did a show and then I listened to it and then I wrote more. So now it's almost like I did two shows. Yeah, where you watching yourself, you're right, because it makes you completely live the set over again. You're doing it again. Yeah. And seeing all the holes, seeing the, yeah. And you don't have to carry the psychic weight of keeping the set going, right? So you have no anticipation.

You know what I already went well, I already saw it. I was there, so let me watch it. Like just chill and just watch and go, I'm gonna say it like that. That's too long. Like I could cut that out. Like everybody knows what I'm saying. I'm gonna cut it out, get to it quicker, you know? Yeah. Like figure out this, that, like you learn how to get to things quicker when you work with killers too. You learn the right, like one of the things I love about Joey is he sneaks up on you.

Like his punchline, sneak up on you. Yeah. Like you don't know where they're coming and then they nail you and he's moving fast. He's moving fast. So you're not gonna, you're not gonna keep up with them already and then on top of that, he's sneaky with how he works in the punchline. Yeah, it's a great way to describe him. Yeah, it's like a economy of words. Economy of words, Joey Deez is the very best at it.

I was telling this one joke, his, my favorite Joey Deez joke was, I like transvestites, they cook, they clean, you can beat him every once in a while. The cops come, who's gonna believe me? So I'm doing a wig and a black eye. Yeah, that's the Joey Deez. When you're like, what? That's a great point because it's like, it keeps going. But it's also, it's like, it's absurd. You know, he's not really beating up transvestites. You know, it's like, it's not real.

Like when he talks about, he'll say the most ridiculous shit and it's outrageous and it's exaggerating, but it's part of the fun of the Joey Deez show. You don't think he's really out there beating up transvestites. Like that's, it's like, their whole thing. It's like he's a cartoon. He's a cartoon character. It's amazing. He's so fun, man. He's my favorite person to watch ever. Yeah. Oh my God. I think that, I mean, there's great comedians. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to say like who's the goat?

Because I don't like it. I don't like the talk. I think we're very fortunate today that we have guys like Chappelle and Atel and Shane and you and everybody and Tony. Shultz. Shultz is killing it right now. Oh God. Murdered on that roast. That guy. Oh my God. He's so likable too. Even when he was shitting all over Danaway, he's got a big smile on his face. It's laughing. Oh my God, he's funny. And he's a great person too, man. He's a great person. Like a great human being.

Yeah, I look at him like an actual big brother, man. That guy is a beautiful person. I love him to death. But it's like we're real fortunate that we have all these people together. We're real fortunate. But for me, like where I've laughed, where I can't stay in my seat and I'm on the ground or I'm slapping tables or we'll hug at each other, it's Joey. Yeah. Joey hits an RPM that I don't think anybody else hits.

It's a because of who he is, his background, the chaos of his life, this phoenix emerging from the ashes of co-cudiction and all that. Like he's just got a wildness and a love about him too. That's the other thing. He's a loving, beautiful person. Like he hugs everybody. He's a beautiful person. And when he gets wild on stage, man, there's nothing like it, man. It's like a family reunion laugh. It's like from your spirit when he gets you laughing. Yeah, yeah, you love him.

You want to hug him when you're laughing with him. Yeah. So he was like the best guy to take on the road too. Because it was like the party was with us everywhere. You know, it was a party. Yeah. We're going to nice restaurants, we're doing our Joey Dizz is telling stories about robbing people. In five star restaurants. Tell me dude, you can tell you a story about kidnapping a drug deal with machine gun and you're fucking crying laughing. Like, oh my god, you're not disturbed.

Like why would you do that? Did you plan on shooting him? Just none of that, just fun. Yeah, the road is where you went. I truly think I'm the most lucky dude in comedy right now. Ever. I mean, my weeks, Joe, Tuesday Wednesday Thursday, I'm with you, Shane Gillis, Brian Simpson, and DeRon White, Tony Hensley. And my weekends, I'm with Andrew Shows. Yeah. And that's it. I'm full on in a master class 24-7. But you're lucky, but you also did all the work to get you to that place.

You did all, it's like, you can't just be lucky. Because you have to also, there's no shortcuts to creating bits. They have to be made. You have to do them. You have to perform. You have to. You did the work, man. If you weren't ready, when Tony recommended you to Andrew, it wouldn't have worked. You had to have done all that work. If you half-stepped at any point in your career, you took time off, you started to try a job for a little bit. You did this, you did that.

You got married, you had kids. You can't go on the road now, because now you have a mortgage. Bro, you went down the path. And you could do anything now, because now you're in. But the beginning is sketchy. Man, you're just going. The beginning is touching. That's what I was saying. If I had a 26-year-old today, and they're like, I'm going to go to open mic nights. I'm going to start standing up. We'll be like, OK, all right. I'll see you at my 100. Let's see.

He's my 100. I'm going to see you get a run at ultra marathon. You don't need people finish those. Dude, I'm a way more. Hey, he's finished stand-up careers. Way more. Way, way, way, way more. Way more. Way, way, way more people finish 100 mile races that start them, then become a comic that start doing stand-up. And finish it. I'm realizing this as you're saying it. When you're doing the math, you're ahead of like, yeah, people do finish those races. Yeah, they finish it.

My friend Cam's running a dozen of them, at least. He's probably running 20 of them. Goggins. He ran, I think Goggins did something crazy. We were ran like 20 of them in a month. What was his record? He had some crazy fucking record. I might be selling it short. In a month. He just sent me a text message yesterday about how he climbed Mount Everest with his fucking Versa Climber. Do you know what a Versa Climber is? No. They're horrible. We have one out there. We have one in the gym.

It's an amazing workout. This was that thing. Whoa. This motherfucker climbed Mount Everest. And he sent me an image of it. Hold on a second. How many days? They would take him days, right? I don't think so. What? No. He's the old dude in one session. He's out of his fucking mind, man. He did eight 100 mile races in a row. That's insane. That's insane. In an overall, how long? I'm trying to see. But he did more than that because over a year, there was some crazy number that he did in one year.

There's another, this isn't two. This is from Ultra Runner Magazine. 2005, he decided to take on the Ultra Marathon Challenge which involved running over 3,100 miles across the United States from San Francisco to New York without taking any days off. Jeez. I'll see you guys later. This is my fucking one had ever achieved before. Did he do it? I'm trying to find that out. So I was trying to answer both questions at the same time. That seems like you've died before you decided that.

Despite having never running more than 13 miles prior to this challenge, you completed it in just over 65 days. Hahaha. What the fuck man? 13 miles. That's all he ever done. Fuck man. 13. He ran across the whole country. By the way, he did it with destroyed knees. His knees are all fucked up. His knees are like, he's got no cartilage and shit. From me and Asil? From all sorts of things. But I think he was born with like, he's one of his knees just kind of fucked up like, malformed.

And then the years and years and years of punishment. Yeah, injuries from being a seal, from growing through buds, just from the years of training. Like his knees are destroyed. They're destroyed. He's had crazy operations on his knees. Is that him? That was a hundred miles. Look how jacked he was. I know, damn son. Look at that fucking build. Shoulders. Dude. That's crazy. Little to no food. Wow. He finished the race in 19 hours on broken legs and in kidney failure.

It was also that story where he was doing one and he went off track and something like off pace. And then the next day he woke up and did it again. Bro, look how jacked he was there. Kidney failure can kill you, right? A hundred percent. What the fuck? Look how jacked he was. Jesus Christ, I'm jealous. I want to be built like that. That's ridiculous. He looks like fucking yo, Romero. He's incredible. I'm jealous of that body. I bet you know, he was jacked. I bet 50 cents this week.

50 cents a big $10. Remember when he was young? Rock. He would be on stage shirtless. Shirtless. Shredded. I mean, I was looking at him. I think he's 50 cents 50. And he's fucking shredded. Yeah. He's a big fella. Boy, this whole rap world, the rap beef. I'm glad I'm ignorant to it. I'm on the outside, on the outside. People keep bringing it up and Tony keeps trying to get the room. I'm always trying to get the room. No, no, no, no. You're not dragging me into this nonsense.

No, it's a, at this point, it's great. I've never seen a rap beef like this. This is, they're going to the back and forth. I saw a great Drake release another one yesterday. Because they've gone back and forth now four times a piece. So what does someone have to tap out here? So is this to the death? I saw a great comment and say that at this point, these niggas are just doing an album together. Like after eight songs going back and forth, that would be the way to wrap it up. That's what you do.

Spread hug it out. Go what you got me with that one. You got me with that one. Let's put it out. I mean, but it's, I'm not going to lie. So I, because I love both these guys. This, this is my era of rap. So I love these guys, man. Him, Jay, Cole, Drake, Kendrick, but Joe, it is pointing out that the so personal, the things they're saying, because you know, he's calling them a pedophile in the song literally. Kendrick calling Drake a pedophile and all this stuff.

And you have a illegitimate daughter, Brian, that's such a good joke. Because he said you have illegitimate daughter, you're a pedophile, you grew women, and then Drake's come back was, I don't have an 11 year old daughter, and Brian said, hey bro, address the other shit. What? Nobody gives a fuck about the, what? He caught you a pedophile, man. Yeah, a dad is not a bad thing to be, buddy. That's okay.

You say, when you hear the rest of the song, I mean, but it's, to that point, where it's like, well, okay, what is this, man? This is crazy. This is crazy. Two boxes, say it once. Hey, man, I fucked your wife. Thank fuck. All right. That's it. Yeah, that was it. And then there was Nas and Jay-Z, the ether. Yep, Jay-Z said it's shit. Nas, ether them. Yeah. Jay-Z said, I, I bow up, I'm done. And then they made up, right? They're friends now. They're friends now. Yeah, so that can happen.

It can happen, but I've never seen that like this. The back of fourth to this extreme is like, man, it kind of sucks. There was the early days of ice cube and easy-e. That was great. Yeah, that was real beef. That was probably first beef. And then there was Tim Dogg, an NWA, fuck Compton. You don't know about fuck Compton. This is before your time. Tim Dogg was good, man. Tim Dogg was a, he was good.

But Tim Dogg was a guy who unfortunately, kind of, his identity became the man who went after NWA when everyone was scared of NWA. And everybody was scared of Compton. Yeah. He was a crazy New York dude. Interesting. You never heard of Tim Dogg? I've never heard of Tim Dogg. Show me some Tim Dogg. Because I love fucking, I mean, I love rap so much. And Tim Dogg did the scariest thing. He went after NWA. Well, in the prime of NWA? Yeah, row days. Oh, yeah.

And when everyone was scared of him, it was just all guns and, ruthless records. Raiders hats. Yeah, that's Tim Dogg. That's so New York, the fucking change like that. Go back to it. Was the name of the album? It's something on wax. Click on that. That's the album. I just picked it because it was a good picture of him. Penicillin on wax, that's the name of his CD. It's good, man. It's good. Like he was a really good rapper.

But the thing was like, if that's how you break out, then your identity gets connected to beefing with these very famous rappers. Where I think like if he just went like, the cool G rap way, just did his own shit. There's people would just love him for his own shit. But he went after NWA. That's all you're known for, your trouble. I mean, Nas Ether Jay-Z. We all were there for that. Oh my god. And Jay-Z is still Jay-Z. Bro. Yeah, Jay-Z is still Jay-Z, but Nas is this fucking man.

His leader is... I was listening to Rewind the other day, while we were playing pool. I was like, God damn that song is genius. Man. It's genius. Joe, literally I got to do the garden with Shulti this past weekend and I took the subway to the show because I wanted to feel it. I wanted to be in New York, put on ill-matic. Oh, yeah. New York State of mind. Joe, I was, God. I was ready to go, bro. Oh my god. On the subway, listen there. That beat. Oh my god. Do do do do do do do do do.

And what year is that? Well year, we're talking about. I mean, 293? I could be role, 93. Damn. He's the best lyricist, in my opinion. Yeah. He's number one. Yeah, man. Kendrick Lamar is two, but man, Nas is, you gotta argue. Nas is the name. Nas is the name. For me, for my money, like, first of all, I'm old, so I like that 90s rap. Boom, boom. Yeah, but it's also like, for me, Nas was one of the first guys that I listened to him, I was like, ooh. Ooh. Bagley face, Joe. Ooh, you know, like, ooh.

These fucking lyrics are so tight, man. I love lyrics, man. I love someone that's like really fucking good and like piecing together a story. And that's why Rewind is so good. Yeah. Not only is it a great story, he does it backwards. It's crazy. Fucking crazy, Joe. That is basically like pulling out your 14-inch dick and just laying on the dinner table. Like, what's up? Every other rapper. Everybody shut the fuck up. Yo. That's made of song backwards. And it's a perfect story. Perfect story.

Murderous. Yeah. And it makes sense. It's genius. And you make sure you want to listen to it again, because you're like, oh. Bro, and even his new shit, he put out an album like two years ago. Yeah. It's bangin', man. It's bangin'. Oh my god. Just old school 90s hip-hop still not lost any of the pace, you know? No, yeah. And he did him with the new best producer. Oh my god. I can't think of his next fuckin' sort of my name. But thank God he made the beat for like Niggas and Paris and stuff.

But he's like, I like that he's still in the game. Yeah. Bro, when you hear hip-hop is dead, if you're in anyway. Do-do-do-do-do-do. Come on! Let's go! Let's go. Let's go. Yeah. Oh, dude. No, Noz's, he's got some bangers over the years, man. It's some real bangers, man. Yeah, no. You do, I do notice hanging out. You do like lyrics. You're a lyric, whether it be rap or anything. Like it's what the person's kind of talking about usually to get you going. I just love Clevver lyrics later.

I love a clever joke, you know. Same kind of shit. Like we always listen to Cool G rap and brand new heavies. That death threat. Oh yeah. That's what don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. When that song starts popping, like, ooh. Let's go. My favorite one you play is not even the rap's, but you got me in the country, bro. People say I got a drink and probably that song. That's a great song. What are my favorite greener memories show? You had it playing and Shane's got a butt like this.

And he's sitting there and he's like, Joe, this song is making me sad. Look over you and you're like, people say I can't. You just kept dancing and Shane's, bro, I think about that shit. It just makes me laugh. Well, our green room playlist is so interesting because there's so many different kinds of music in it. And it's like, it's all random. So it's all randomized. So it'll just one Janice Joplin, out of nowhere.

Yeah. You don't even know you wanted to hear that, but you hear that beginning of take a little piece of my heart. Oh shit, baby, sing. What the, what the, what the, sing, baby. Hot white com lady. Oh my god, that's a crazy song. Yeah, yeah. Love her. Yeah. That song, Hot White Com is crazy. That song is crazy because she was a huge artist when she made that song. What air of time was that? So nuts. 2000-ish, early 2000s. 2003. 2003?

Yeah. Yeah. I remember seeing it here in that song, like Jesus. That lady away from me. She's wild. That's a wild lady to be that famous singing that song. She's cool as fuck, dude. I had her on the podcast. Really? Cool as fuck. Very cool. We've got to hide together. It's fun. Sing, that's a hot white com. I'm getting, getting high with this. Yeah, I'm scared of it. She's just cool, just fun person. Fun person to talk to. You know, most artists, like they got something inside of them. You know?

There's something going on in there. Yeah. It's fun to hang with, like Jelly Roll. Yeah. He's fun to hang with. Yeah. Gary Clark, yeah. He's so fun to hang with. He's so fun to hang with. He's just the coolest. He's just a, he's a real artist. Like Gary locks himself in his studio for like 18 hours. He drives his wife crazy, drives everybody crazy. He's just sitting there smoking weed, drinking whiskey, and just playing music. Damn. Yeah. I mean, he just, he, he goes for it.

Sometimes I'll text him and he's like, I'm in the middle of everything, man. I'm in the middle of it. I like that. I like that. I like that. That's hot. I like to do it like that, man. Just lock in completely. Completely. They do think so much different than us, because they can create in a vacuum. You know, you can create a song in a vacuum. You can be by yourself and you create a banger of a song. We can't really do that. No. We need it. Because in your head, you can hear the joke sometimes.

You're like, I'm pretty sure this will go, but you're not, it's, you need the audience. You need to know. It's like you need a translator. Like you need, like you, you kind of get it, but you need to like, you need to like, am I saying this right? Like you need to like have someone translate the words to the crowd that speaks a different language. You got to like, it's so, you know, with music, I envy that. They could practice on their own, you know, they could just sit alone.

But even then, I think like performing live is a different animal. Yeah. Like if you read Malcolm Gladwell's book, the outlaw, I bought it. I haven't read it, but I do have it. It's good to read. It's good to listen to too. I've listened to the audio book. The audio book is amazing because Malcolm reads it and he talks about the Beatles when they were in Germany. So the Beatles went away. They left Liverpool. They go to Germany and Hamburg and they're doing shows like every night, every night.

They're doing like six, seven nights a week. They're doing shows like hours and hours and hours. They come back two years later and everybody's like, what the fuck happened? Like how are you guys so good? Like what the fuck happened? It's because these guys were tight. Tight as a drum. Just constantly, constantly doing shows. Just constantly working on it.

Damn. I've heard Kobe say that in one of the things about how like if you work out every day at like 9 a.m. and then you work out again at 4 p.m. That's like a regular NBA player. But what I'm doing is I'm waking up at 3 a.m. and then I'm working out then and then I'm working out again at 6 a.m. and then I'm working out again at 9 a.m. So by the time you got your first workout, I got in 3 and he said, and after I do that for years, I'm the best player basketball. And it's like, and he was right.

He was right. It literally just worked. That's all it was. He wasn't like, oh no, there's guys who was better than me. Completely. Born better, all that. But I outworked them. I think that's the case with everything. I think that's the case with music. I think that's the case with sports up until the point where you're being detrimental to your body with sports. Because I think you definitely can overuse.

You could work out too hard where your body's just too broken down and then you start getting injured. That's that's real possible because at a certain point in time, you're putting in too much work for your biology to heal the sessions. For fighting, that must be the hardest to judge that. That's the toughest thing in all of athletics, in my opinion, is like world championship fighting. Because just getting into the octagon without an injury, good luck. Everybody's hurt.

You got to fight to get ready. That's the crazy part. Yeah. You got to fight and guys get staff infections, tweaked knees, fucked up backs and rib injuries and they fight with those things. Yeah. They fight. They fight all fucked up. You always hit it like after a guy wins and I won with it. Priera, I won with a broken toe. The fuck? The fuck? Got kicked them in nuts. Yeah. Crazy. Crazy. Yeah, those guys are always hurt. How about Ben Wassand and Denise?

He had a fucking staff infection on his head when he fought Dustin Porje. He couldn't, he knew he had one good round in him. So he just went after Dustin the first round, tried to take him out and he got knocked out in the second round. And then afterwards you say, the staff infection just drained him. There was nothing left. That's what happens. Is that the one where Dustin kept trying to do the guilty? Mm-hmm. That was the best. Where he said, at the markup. At the end he hates the markup.

And I never stopped. I never go stop joke. I felt big killtony as fighters after I went in the fight and thinking about will you fuck in my covering? No. It's crazy. It has emerged, man. It's emerged. When Tony was in the cover of Variety Magazine, I was like, whoa, that's undeniable. That's undeniable. I do wonder because it's like, man, what?

And it's only going to get bigger because I don't think that show is that I like, oh, it's, I think that show is like, this might be the beginning of what the show might be. Oh, it's not, it's not nearly where it's going to be. Yeah. It's going to be even bigger. It's going to continue to grow. I thought Tony's like, bro, you're going to have some open mic or doing their first set and that goddamn football stadium in Texas. Yeah. Yeah, legitimately. Easily, it could be that.

And also, when they do the live show, you know, they put on a production. I mean, there's a lot going on, you know, they had jelly roll singing, you know? Jelly Roll is a crazy comedy fan. He was like, mother shit this weekend. Yeah, they're the hangout with Steve Byrne. When we were in Nashville, he pulled up, just came to the show. We were at the Grand Ole Opry and he came out and sang some songs with it. It was like, they were singing Garth Brooks with Jelly Roll at the Grand Ole Opry.

Tony told me that he took him out to clubs afterwards. And that they were playing and Tony would play the drums and Jelly Roll was singing. Yeah. And that's a simple man. He sang Simple Man with Tony on drums. Yeah. Can you imagine you just at some bar in Nashville just hanging out and Jelly Roll rolls up and he goes on stage and sings a Leonard Skinner's song with Tony Hinchcliff playing the drums? Sounds like a fucking madly. That even sound real. It doesn't even sound real.

And Tony came into the, he was like, what kind of life are we living? How is this real? Man, Robbie, thank you, Natchez. All the time. I do too. I can't. Yeah, I think it all the time. Doesn't make any sense. Just this week, Joey, we went, we went, we went, Mass Square Garden, Mass Square Garden here. Yeah. To do this part. It was, this three days have been like, what the fuck? Yeah, what the fuck? What the fuck? What the fuck? Just from an open mic? Just from decided an open mic.

One night, 12 years ago was missing. Just staying on the path. How many years have it been now? Just been 12. Yeah. Staying on the path. It's just staying on the path. That's the thing. Just staying on the path. Stay on the path. Yeah. But it's just like, what Kobe Bryant was saying. Same thing. Work. Yeah, just getting that work. Stay on the path.

And the difference between the guys who work and the guys just kind of have acid, like we've seen guys come through that they have one foot in and one foot out. You can see it. Yeah, you see it. You see it when they bomb, too. Ooh, you see it when they bomb. It's like, oh, you're not doing this. You're not getting up. You're not really getting up. And you're not really putting yourself around the best communities you could put yourself around. Yeah. You can see it.

You're not, either they're your openers or whatever it is, but you're not around it. Yeah. And you're all in your head. You're not free. Yeah. Those guys that are free, like a tell, a tell's free. He's free when he's up there. He's free. He's not. Shane's free. Yeah. That's like a place that you can get to. Everybody can get there. If you're good, if you can get laughs, you can get there. You just need to keep working on it. Yeah. But that's the thing is like it really is.

It's a skill that can be developed. It's not as simple as you're the talented or you're not. It's like, yeah, you have to have something. Like there's some people that just, they can't make anybody laugh ever. They're just not funny. They're just not funny. I've seen these people. And usually they're mentally ill. Usually the people that aren't funny, but they try really hard to be funny, they're usually like really mentally ill. And some of them somehow or another develop careers.

Like they have like a monochrome of a career. But if you like go to their Instagram, it's all weird, like signaling, it's all pretending you're something you're not. It's like this weird thing where they're just trying to like find something that sticks to like a formless jellyfish trying to pretend that it's a tree. You know what I mean? It's something about them that's like weird.

But if they can ask, if they look the right way and they say the right things, they can kind of eek out some bizarre existence where they can pretend that they're a comedian. And it can last for years. Some of them stick around. They host shows and do things. They're like, what are you doing? That is the one thing I did love about sports is that you can't pretend fight. You can't pretend hit a baseball joke. You either got to hit the baseball. Right.

But you do have fighters that are professional fighters that are not good. Yeah, like in boxing, there's guys that they will call because they know this guy's a dumbass and they'll fight Mike Tyson. I mean, that's how they built Mike Tyson's career. They took a bunch of guys who kind of like, you know, they're not Kobe Bryant mentality. You know, they're kind of like just sort of professionally boxing and losing a bunch. And maybe they have losing records.

Like a lot of them have like, they'll lost more than they've won. But they're a professional boxer and they're willing to fight this 19 year old kid from Brownsville. That's going to take your fucking head off. And so that's how they get from hell from hell. Look at board. Yeah. So that's how they develop like careers. And so with stand up, you get those guys too because some comics, they like weak comics going on in front of them.

So they'll take this person who's like, barely should be a comedian. They really barely should be doing stand up. And they'll have them open in front of crowd and torture this audience. So they can come on stage 20 minutes later and look like a hero. This looks totally unchallenged, so smooth and polished and so confident. Yeah. That's shit. Yeah. So that you have that weirdness in anything, even in fighting.

You have that weirdness where someone's kind of, they're doing it, but they're kind of like half doing it. And they can still have a career though. Kind of sort of, you know, but same thing. They're not making any real money. Yeah. You know, you just kind of like getting by. Or even just a lasting impression just like, yeah, I like, you know, because there are some comics you can tell they, you can tell that they operate outside of the world of like peers. They operate kind of on their own.

Like, and they don't really want that. You know, I like the idea of my peers thinking, I'm funny. And being in this group that we have and like everyone making each other better. But you can tell some kind of like don't want to operate in that world. I think they get isolated and usually they get isolated by success. And especially if they're old school guys, because the old school guys people did root for your downfall.

And if they didn't come up with us in the store, which is, I think the first time where that sort of attitude of camaraderie like really got polished and developed. Whereas it existed in small pockets where they had friends. But there's so many stories of one friend getting something and the other friend turning on them because they were jealous. There's so many with guys that we know. Super fake. They've done podcasts about it. Yeah. But there was always that.

But I think when some guys make it and then they start doing touring and clubs and then doing theaters, they just bring their opening act everywhere. So they have an opening act that they work with. They bring that person everywhere and they rarely do sets in town. And then they become isolated. And then you become like an island. I refer to these people as islands. Great. Exactly. What I'm talking about. Yeah, islands. They're islands. And so they're not connected to the mainland.

And so there's a sadness to that existence. Yes. It's a little bit weird. It's not good. And you can tell they act like, or you can see it on them. They'd like to pretend like they don't care. But it's like, I think you do. I think when you lay your head down a night, you want friends. But I like that we work out together. I like that. Like we are all friends. Outside of this as well. I like that feeling. Yeah. Yeah. It's everything. It's a big part of it. The clubhouse. Clubhouse.

It's a big part of why it's so entertaining and why it's so fun. And like we're laughing as much in the room as we are watching people on stage. It's like in that room, it's like there's, and everybody's free. It's like everybody knows everybody loves them. Yeah. Free. When everyone walks in, everybody hugs each other. Asked my friend. You know, Ronald come in and then Tony comes in. We're all like, oh, everybody just immediately starts talking shit. Yeah. Man, bro.

We're very, very, very, very lucky. Very lucky. The luckiest though. But we also did the thing. We actually took the chance and we came out here. You know? Fucking 49ers. That's what I feel like. I think the universe wanted it to happen. I know that sounds corny. I know that sounds ridiculous. I know that sounds like new AG. But just don't, I don't know how everything else could have lined up so perfectly.

Like if you had, if you had a calculation to what are the odds of a new comedy scene emerging in the middle of the country and emerging in a way that all the young people are moving here, all the young people that want to have a career and then have it connected to something like Kill Tony, which is the very best platform ever. For someone to develop a career. If you, if you have a good few minutes, you can go on Kill Tony, you could pick on a real look at Cam Patterson. Look at Cam Patterson.

Look at Cam Patterson. Look at Cam of a fucking Patterson. Killin it every week, new minute, killin it. Killin it. Monster. But when Tucker Carlson was on, just killin it. Just killin it all the time. You can develop a career. You can William Montgomery. Killin it. Casey Rocket. Casey Rocket, all these guys. You can, you can really develop a career and the way the, the club is set up. I almost called it the store. The way the mother ship is set up, it's like you have a real path.

Like guys will take you on the road. You do get spots if you're a door person. You get people who watch you. Yeah. If you're coming up, people will watch you. And you can't think you deserve more than you get either. Like everybody gets what they deserve. It's just, it's a long ass fucking brutal process. But you have a possibility. There's a path. There's a real path. The light, it's lit. You can, not everybody finishes that 100 mile race, but you can get on that path.

Not everybody finishes that house. A brutal man, especially in that stage. The stage where you got like five good men. Yeah. This is where you're banking your life on. Oh my God. I could have gone to school. I wish sometimes I could have had a healthcare plan. I could have had a Lexus. Fuck. Fuck, fuck, fuck. Fuck off it. Yeah. Fuck. Fuck. If I could, I wish we could sometimes gamble on comedy. I would, if I had stock, man, I'd put it in camp attest. Oh yeah. Right when I saw him.

I was like, oh, that's one of them things. He's one of them things that is very rare I think. Yeah. You know, where it's 100%. Where it's 100, where it's, this is not. That's 100%. By it. 100%. That's 100%. 100%. Yeah, there's a, there's guys where you're like, man, I don't know, like William in the beginning. I'm like, I don't know if this is gonna work out. Look at this. It's so crazy. It's just like what it's going on. But now it's like 100%. Well, yeah.

If you were an early adopter of William Montgomery stock, you'd be like, wow, I fucking called that bitch. Yeah, Tony's rich man. Yeah, that's a hard one to call. But camp attest is one of those few, man, where I, I mean, I wasn't around for Eddie Murphy, but that's how I look at him. I'm like, man, you really are special, man. You are special, dude. Well, he's just so friendly in real life and so silly, you know, and fun. And authentically him. Yeah, authentically him.

And he could do that on stage. And that, that exercise of doing a new minute every week is crazy. That's crazy. Could you imagine doing it? I'm tired to do. Five years in joke. So hard to do, man. So hard to do. Kim Kongden and Sarah, Sarah Wanchank, they were like the first to do it. Yeah. Kim's killing them out. They're both killing them out. Yeah. And they're out here all the time too. That's the coolest thing is to see how many people decided to join us, you know.

But if you had to put odds on that, what are the odds? The odds are like a fucking million to one. Like what are the possibilities that all those things are going to happen in that order? You know, Spotify, pandemic, George Floyd come out here. Everyone's cool. Do indoor shows, everything's locked down everywhere else. Everyone's at a job. All the employees of the comedy store are all fired. No one has jobs. No, there's no club. You can hire people. Bring them out here.

And everybody starts coming. Like what are you guys doing? What are y'all up to? What the fuck are y'all up to over here? Come join. That's what it feels like. Not like real COVID, it does feel like it's our family. It's the people who came early. It does feel that way. And it can help shape the way comedy is done in the whole country because it's done for the comedians. It's a club that's set up for the comedians and it recognizes that the comedians, the reason why people are there.

They're not just there to buy drinks. They're not just there because the club is cool. But therefore the talent. So give the talent money. You pay. The first thing I did. I've never had money Joe, but the first thing I did, brother, I took all the door guys to get sushi. We balled the fuck out. I never, that's the most money I've ever spent on anything Joe. And I'm talking about the whole check I got on sushi for the boys. That's awesome. That never felt good.

Whitney was there with your wife was there too. Literally Whitney and your wife were there with Whitney's like, what are y'all doing here? We're about to get some fucking sushi. She was like, Joe Rogan's fucking paying y'all. It's like what the fuck y'all making? It's like, he's like, oh no, man. That's my favorite thing, brother. It was being able to have money and just go out with the door guys and be able to pay for dinner. Like they don't have to pay for dinner. I could pay for dinner.

No, that's nice. It's nice. Woo. Yeah, it's nice that you feel that way too. That's what's important that you want to do that. That's what's important. And it makes everybody feel good. What people do it for me, you. Yeah. It shows. So it's like the idea of how nice, and I know what it's like to just be like, man, bro, it's either not eat tonight or eat like a McDonald's thing or Derek's taking us to get a steak. Let's go. Yeah. You know, yeah.

When we first started doing that, I remember Ari was like super poor, taking them on the road and they were like, we're gonna order. I'm like, order whatever the fuck you want, man. Let's go. Let's have some steaks. Let's get a bottle of wine. Let's have fun. Yeah, it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, did anyone ever do it for you, Joe? Did you just start doing it? No, I just started doing that. I didn't, nobody took me on the road. Really?

Yeah. I mean, I had a couple guys that I opened for in the early days, like Lenny Clark was the big one. Because Lenny Clark had opened for Lenny. I'd, I've been doing comedy for one year. And Mark Clark just started, he tried me out at this one place. It was called Jays in Pittsfield, Massachusetts. And Lenny was just coming off of the HBO young comedian special with Rodney. Wouldn't like say I'm Kiddison? Yeah. Yeah. So Lenny was, and Lenny was a legend in Boston.

So, and Lenny was like, Kidd, you're funny. He goes, I fucking love did he was like, talking to me about different bits. It was real fun. And so this is me. That was like a giant boost that I got from Lenny Clark. I was like, holy shit, this is incredible. And then I became friends with Lenny. And so I would, you know, I did quite a few shows with Lenny in Boston, in and around Boston. But nobody ever took me on the road. Wow. No, I came out here to LA, came out there to LA.

And I started doing the store and I was mostly just doing the store. And then Dice told me, I should do the road. Yeah. Andrew Dice Clay. Dice told me in the back of the comedy store. Dice is always cool to me. And he was always one of those ones where I just couldn't believe I was talking with Dice. I was like, this is just so weird. Because I was listening to his cassette in my car when I was 19 years old. I remember this girl's date and we were howling lab. We're sitting in front of my house.

I'll never forget. I can picture the scene. We're sitting in front of my house in the car. And we're both like, ah, we're just crying laughing. And then all of a sudden, I'm in the parking lot of the comedy store and Dice is giving me advice. It's like, you should do the road. I'm like, really? It's like, yeah. He goes, you don't need these fucking jerk offs to tell you where your money comes from. Do the road. He goes, you have a real career. You'll always have that.

He goes, you can make a lot of money out there. I was like, gosh, do the road. So I had just been doing the store. I had done the road when I lived in New York because that's how you made a living. I would go places and go to Connecticut and Jersey, I do road gigs, weekends, places. That's how I was making money. But then when I came to LA, I was basically just doing the comedy store and the lab factory and working on sitcom news radio. And then Dice was like, you should do the road.

And I was like, I should do the road. And then I started going on the road. I was headlined. Wow. So I just took guys from the store. So I realized early on, this is like when I really had a really hard time following Joey. But I realized that Joey was so funny that if I knew that I could follow him, I was like, this will really pick up my comedy because he's so hard to follow. It was so scary. I can't imagine.

I was like, this is the only way to do it because I knew that Joey didn't want to head line. Joey was crazy back then. So while that I started hiring Ari to come with us as well, in case Joey didn't show up. So if Joey showed up, it was a three-man show. And if Joey didn't show up, it was a two-man show because Ari could go up and he wouldn't be there. I was like, I don't want to not have Joey. But Joey was so crazy back then, but I didn't want to put pressure on him either.

So it was like, let's just come if you come. You don't. I fucking eat your plane ticket or whatever. And so Ari doesn't know if he's featuring or else thinking this way. He's assuming that we always did a tag team anyway. So he's assuming he's always going to go on first, which is correct. Yes. Assuming he's going to bring up Joey. But he might not be bringing up Joey. But it was fine. It was fine. But I started taking them on the road because I was like, it's way more fun when you bring people.

It's way more. I figured that out early on. I'm like, you want to travel with your friends. You don't want to just, it was lonely. You just travel to Pittsburgh and you're like hanging out with the people that work there. Like, okay, I guess I'm going to go to my hotel and go to sleep. I'm going to jerk off and go to sleep. Fuck life is this. This is weird. And then just look forward to the show the next day and you're alone in the gym. Fucking lifting weights, feeling weird.

As opposed to if I bring those guys, we were just laughing everywhere. So it was just laughs. We just go have a good time, go eat together, hang out at the park together, fucking do whatever. Go to the pool. I always hear comics saying it. I'm not, I mean, definitely hope to be headline as soon. But you hear comics to be like, oh man, you want to bring somebody, but it just costs a little too much money or cost money. It's like, to me, that's what you're paying for, right? 100%.

I'm paying so I can have a good, comfortable time. I think to this day, my photo of Joey, when I call him, is Joey at the pool in Austin. Yeah. That photo right there. That's Joey with Ari in the background. Oh shit. We're hanging out at the pool when we're on the road together. That's fucking, that's Joey. That's Joey. That's Joey calls me. Or what I call him, I'll call him right now. Fuck yeah. Everybody can see it. Oh, it doesn't show the image. Why doesn't show the image?

It's an old ass image. Hmm. Sometimes when you call people, it shows you the full picture. You show you the picture. Yeah, I'll come and it doesn't do that. I don't know. Either way, that's the picture. That was us. People made shirts. People made shirts. I think we were in Austin. We sure we were in Austin. Look at Ari. That was young Ari. Yeah. That was Ari when he was a door guy. Wow. Yeah, when he just lost his religion just a few years earlier.

Ari was like radical, you know, like what sect of what you call him, fundamentalist Judaism, what was it? What would you call it? Orthodox Orthodox. He was all in. Ari was all in. Nobody's 19 or 20. He was like, those bullshit. I think he was 21. Those bullshit. You met him coming off religious. It's a conservative Jewish and then his parents adopted Orthodox Jewish beliefs this according to Wikipedia. Okay. So that's when he moved to Israel.

Yeah. And he was like reading the Talmud 12 hours a day. Like he was all in and then became this chaotic commision. Crazy. Yeah. So hilarious, crazy. Yeah. And I met him when he was at the store just working in the door and then you know, watch him do a few sets and said, you want to come on the road? Take him on the road. We did a bunch of sets together. How did great fucking done? Door guys. Yeah. Door guys.

Yeah. And it's also just like, you know, given lighting the path, letting people know that there's a real path here. You can go from doing open mic nights to putting together sets, you do guest spots and then you do little bit of sets in town and then someone comes along and says, hey, you want to try opening up on the road. You do 15 minutes, you do 15. You know, and some guys, I asked them, can you do 15 minutes?

And they really can't because they have really they have three, five minute sets of the same jokes. But you don't know because you're only doing five minutes sets at a time. Exactly. So they don't know that the problem is if you cover that same subject three different times, you can't, you can't piece that together and make 15 minutes. You're just covering the subject in one way.

What you really should be doing is condensing that shit, cutting it up and attaching them all together and don't try to make it like three, five minutes. You're just lazy. Yeah, it should be one chunk. Exactly. Exactly. That's what makes you prime sense and that is what makes you a great topic. Exactly. That's what you can make the ideas. A joy deers. It's not 15 minutes anymore. It's four minutes. You know, it's one chunk and it's bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, murderers.

Yeah. So there's, you know, there's a few guys you take them in the road. They just, they didn't, but if whatever it is, they didn't have the extra horsepower to make it up the hill. It's like, listen, man, you got to get up that hill. Yeah. You know, one's going to help you. I can't hold your hand. You got to get up that hill and your own. See the only way to do this. Damn. Some people don't make it up the hill, bro. Yeah. Even though you love them. You love them.

They don't make it up the hill. You love them. You think they're great guys. They want you to still take them in the road and like, hey, man. You got to get up the hill. You got to make it up the hill. I see. Have you bombing everywhere? You know? I see people ask you to try to go up on the road getting friends. You try. You have some people. It's just, but then they, it's just. When they bomb, it's awful. It's awful. Yeah. Especially when the crowd's so like a sunchess murder.

Brian just murdered. You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, it's like, oh, no. Yeah. You got to make it up the hill. But you can. And just because you have a bad set that night, it doesn't mean everybody's writing you off. But if you don't adjust, if you don't, course correct, you're going to continue to have bad sets. You're not, you got to figure out what is, what am I doing wrong?

Like, what is different about what I'm doing than these people that are doing it really good. That's the best part of watching it. But the thing is, comedy is a weird art form in that there's no real place where you can learn it other than doing it. You could learn how to play guitar, you know, I mean, some of the great guitar players, they're self taught, but you could, you could learn, you could go to a place they can teach you how to play guitar, you know, they can teach you online.

There's, there's tons of tutorials on how to learn how to play guitar that are free. You can get them on YouTube, learn how to play guitar. You're not going to learn how to do comedy. You can't. Yeah, you got to do it. It's so personal. That's what makes it so beautiful. It's so personal. And there's a lot of really funny people in our funny on stage. That's weird. How does that, it's, it's weird. It doesn't make sense sometimes. Right. It's weird.

It's weird when you see them bomb on stage and you see them in real life in their funny. Like, what is going on? And then they go, almost like the great, like, you'll see them in the green room and they'll be this, the comedian. And then they go on stage and they like, but no, let me give you, let me become a, a no, a comedian. Like what I think a comedian is. So aware, it's so aware that they're performing.

So aware, not locked into the thought at all, but instead hoping for a good result with every word that comes out of their mouth. Yeah. Hoping for a good result. Yeah. Is that feeling in the air of desperation? No. You could, the crowd could taste it. You ever see a desperate dude trying to hit out a girl? It's the saddest shit of all time. This like, he smells like shit. And she's just trying to get away with him. Get away from him. You know, because desperation stinks. It does.

But it stinks on girls too. It stinks on everybody. It stinks on comedians, it stinks. Desperation stinks. We don't like it. It's uncomfortable. I don't want to feel that way. So if you're, I want you to be having fun. You know, when I see someone like with shouts at the roast, he's having fun. Yeah. I want to be watching the person who's having fun. I don't want to be watching someone who's like, even if your comedy is really well written, it's going to suck if you're desperate.

Yes. Yeah. Watch someone have fun. God watch that fucking guy, shouts. That's fucking. Yeah. He has a good ass time. Man. And he's enjoying all the success. You know, he's enjoying every step of the way. That's very important too. Because you know, a lot of people get upset that people promote things and show them on stage killing it. You got to understand like that, that is, that's you. That's on, that's on you. That's on you. He's celebrating success.

This is like, this is gratitude in a physical form. If that bothers you, that's you. Which one's you? That's your problem. This is him with the guy. This is him with the guy. Oh, we went in. Oh, look at the boy. Joe, watching this guy, watching this guy, I swear to God, Joe, and I've told him this a hundred times. I'll be watching them. I'll think I'll get off stage. My second show with the garden. I thought I had one of the best sets of my life, Joe, in my life.

I watched his first 10 minutes just riffing about New York and I'll be like, I don't even, I don't even do the same thing. I'm not even doing the same thing. He's killing so hard. And he brought 50 Cent out too at the end, right? He brought him out. Did 50 sing? Oh, he did. Joe, I got the wrap. We wrapped, we wrapped, headed to love it together. Oh my God. Oh, he tapped me up and went through my body, Joe. That's amazing. That's amazing. But I like that he lives like this.

I like that he's like a bigger, better, let's, let's, let's everybody. Let's be bigger, better, bigger. He can all be bigger, better. Yeah. And I like that. That's why I gravitate towards him, I feel like. He makes me want to be bigger and better and do better. I felt like that at the moment I met him. Moment I met him was I'd seen him do some stuff online. I guess it was probably YouTube or Instagram, I forget what it was. And then I came to the store and I heard he was doing a show.

So I came to stop by to watch him. I remember this night, Joe. Yeah. I remember this night. I met him in the back. Yep. Maidroom, he went up, he fucking killed and then he did the pot. I remember that. It was fun. I didn't even know him yet. I didn't even remember just being a flower and a wall watching these moments. There's good guys out there, man. There's good guys out there. And there's a lot of people that would be good guys if they were in the right group of people.

And they don't feel like they can be good guys because they're all like shielded and protected. Some guys are good guys when things go great for them. When things aren't going great, then they're cut. And all of a sudden they do. And that's because they work good guys. So that's who they really work. Yeah. Well, they're just narcissists and they feel it's the same, that old school thing where they only want them to be successful.

And they only celebrate people that are way less successful than them. If they do celebrate people. Yeah. It's always someone who's like kind of okay and then they pretend they're really amazing. That shit's so, oh my god. And then they'll tell people like a sawdust by that they can't open for them. Like, you know, they'll give it excuses a while. Like, oh, just, you know, wear this or that. It's like, he just murdered. That's why.

Yeah. Well, when you kick a guy off the tour because he's killing too hard, that's when it's a real problem. I've seen that happen. It's happened to your boy. Yeah. It's happened to your boy Joe. We know the names. Come on. Yeah. But, you know, that's on them. They have to, they have to live with that. That's not good. It's, you know, take your medicine. Yeah. Also, don't you want the show to be good? That's what I be thinking about.

Like, don't you want the people in the show to also leave going, I love the whole show, not just the main guy. I love the whole thing. But I think we would people could take out of this that don't give a fuck about comedy or stand up is that that, the mentality of like doing it the right way, you could apply that to everything in your life, to everything. You apply that to whatever you do for living, apply that to your friendship, apply that to everything. You'll have a better life.

It's a better way to live. Fuck it, right. And you can do it. Everybody could do it. It's not hard to do. It's hard to do. But it's not, it's not like, it's not like it's impossible. It just requires a readjustment of the way you think about things. Yeah, man. Lovein' is so much more fun. Oh, it's so much fun. It's just lovein' is so much more fun. So much fun. They have it a good time. Just love. Yeah, just stop trying to be the man. Even if you are the man, don't even think about it.

Just keep going. Just have fun. Just have a good time. Even if you are. Don't think about it. Yeah, never dwell. I'm dwellin' that shit. Think about what's important. What's important is friendship, fun, this thing that you're trying to get better at. You know? Community. I love the community we have. And we all have very different versions of the same idea. Like we're trying to develop great bits and trying to have a great set. We're all trying to do a different version of that same idea.

So we're all just all of us working on shit. We all have good advice for each other. Like, you know, every now and then Tony will hit you with a tag line. Someone will come up with Brian and I'll say, hey, you know, you do it like this. But I feel like one time I heard you did a different and I like that better. Like, oh yeah, that's right. You know, having guys like that is watch your shit and talk to you about it. Well, you've said that to me. Just like try to open it with this.

Just move, just sometimes just moving something. You know? Yeah. Joey did say that to me also on the phone yesterday. He was talking about this guy who went up and he said something kind of fucked up right away. He goes, he can't just do that to him. He goes, they got to get him to fall in love with you first. Don't just fucking dive into this stupid shit. Get him to fall in love with you first. He goes, then he can get away with it later. Get away with everything.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's also like you, you know them now. They know you, you know each other, we like each other. Now I can be free. Now I can get loose. I heard you say that to Tony. Like Tony? Smile. Yeah. Have a good time, smile. Happy Tony's best time. Happy when Tony's happy. It's the hardest murder. It's great. Yeah. Me and Tony is like, settle down Tony. Can you go to the gym? Okay. Don't be so mean. But it's, you know, that's like that intensity of is also like that could be harnessed.

Like you could be, you have the same intensity, but you don't focus it in like this angry mean way, you know. Yeah. Just focus it. What's the best way? What's the best way to use this energy? Don't just give in to the gluttony, you know, of the gluttony of anger, meanness or whatever the fuck it is. Just have fun. It comes up in a saw though. God, it comes up quick where you just feel something like. Mm-hmm. God, what did you say that day we were working out?

And we were about to start talking shit and then Marshall came up and Marshall was like, and he was like, look at Marshall. She's like, no, daddy, stop fucking shit. You know. And you were like, I know Marshall, but I can't help it. I know. Yeah, we were talking shit, but we were right. I think that's the best part. Isn't that crazy? And we were now after we were talking that shit that it was confirmed. I knew it. Come on.

I knew it, but that's, that's again, that's that old school stupid way of thinking that my dog does not participate in. Marshall's like, you can't, he's like, you can't. No, everybody love everybody. He's funny, man. Hang on, we're doing kettlebell swings, shit. I know, she's just running in between legs. Don't misgender my dog. Oh, it's right. It's named Marshall. You know, I like them. You know, I like it. No, that's the problem. That's the problem. That's the problem. That's the problem.

It's a good time for you. Oh, bro, the world has changed into my favorite. It's for your boy. I feel like I'm a part of it. How did you develop a like of transport? Honestly? Honestly. Just scrolling through porn one regular day, just like any other day. Right there guy, nothing's wrong with you. Nothing wrong. Didn't get struck by lightning. Nope, just scrolling through. I saw a woman with a fucking hog. Yeah. And was like, and she was beautiful. She was actually beautiful.

Did you get confused? No, I was finally not confused. You just gave in to it. I was a me, oh, you liked it. Told my wife. I said, what the fuck is this? What she said? It's wrong with you. Fuck is wrong with you, man. That's the fuck is wrong with you. Fuck is wrong with you. And I was like, you all liked it. Because that's also what I don't like is the guys who don't want to brag like they don't watch it. 20 million views every video. It ain't just me being right. It ain't just your boy.

It's a lot. You know what I saw that was real disturbing? Someone posted this video. This is totally unrelated. So no one thinks I'm connecting these two. But someone posted this thing on Instagram with a video of showing children dancing around like the people posting their children dancing around. And then they went and saw like who is liking this video and who is following this video, who's following this person. And then they went to those accounts.

And they went to some of those accounts and some of those accounts are for straight up pedophiles. Yeah. Straight up pedophiles who are watching your kid dance around and they're watching your kid and they're fucking legit sex offenders. And they're online. Yeah, that's fucking why you shouldn't have your kids online. Yeah, and some of them have a different language. So you use a translator and you translate it and see what they're saying. Yeah. Yeah, they're real, man.

Just like, don't put your kids online, kids. No. Don't do that. There's transport on there. Don't you can't see that, you can't. You can't see that, you know? Yeah, you can't. Kids today are just being inundated with images and things that we never saw when we were kids. Well, I'm obviously a lot older than you, but even you never saw. No. This is what we're doing. Why was the first time you saw someone get murdered on Instagram? Great question.

I would say 20s, probably like mid 20s where you're like, whoa. I just see somebody like a video of just somebody like falling or somebody getting hit by something where you're like, what the fuck is, where you're like, oh, that person's dead. Yeah. So I'd say around mid, when I was like mid late 20s, when you started seeing people just die scrolling through your phone. Dude, I see it all the time. Almost every day I see people die. Almost every day.

Yeah. I was on Twitter yesterday and I saw this video of this dude, this lady was complaining that this dude was too loud. She was trying to go to sleep. So the guy beat her to death in the hallway. He hit, I don't know what he had in his hands. It's like a kind of a blurry security camera, but he keeps hitting her with this thing and then she pleads for him and then he hits her in the head and she goes unconscious and then he gets on top of her and it's just beating her to death.

Bro. And then they had him, according to this post, they had him in jail and they had him in trial. And he said she wanted to go to sleep but now she sleeps real good. Like after he beat her to death. I don't know if he actually said that if something's right. Yeah, I know what the fuck is. Movie life. The video of him doing it though is the most disturbing shit you'll ever see. It's like this lady. It's like overweight lady who can't defend herself at all. And she's got her hands up.

She's getting beaten. Bro, I can't watch that shit. I was growlbiting. I can't watch it. It's impossible. It's horrible. It's horrible to watch. And there's so many of them. So many people get stabbed and shot, ran over by cars. Fuck, man. And people have posted casually. That's what I don't, to post it so casually is wow. It was one street takeover yesterday in Chicago.

And I guess it was a cop that had just gotten off duty and he was driving through and he tried to drive through the street takeover and they shot him multiple times. So this cop's in his car and he hit some people. There's like, you know, they're trying to block the road and shit, they're trying to, and he's trying to get through. And you know, he thinks he's a cop, so he's gonna be able to do this. And he just, he just, he just, he just unloads it. I don't know. This shit makes me sick.

Because like, you'll hear like a, about like a rapper dying. And then two seconds later, you'll just see the video. And it's like, I don't think I'm supposed to live like, like I don't think I'm supposed to live like that. What happens if Kendrick Lamar and Drake run into each other in the wild? Oh, Drake would fucking destroy that little guy. Yeah, he's a tiny little dude. He's a tiny little dude. But what if Kendrick is expecting that?

So he comes prepared with good, I mean, the nice thing I like about this era is everyone's way gayer. Everyone's just, fucking gay and nice. Everyone has their fingernails painted and everybody. Just gonna talk shit, they're not gonna shoot. Just gonna do it. I don't believe this is a two-pack biggie era. This is not, I think that ended.

I think that's honestly when that ended up far, as far as rappers still get killed, but I think the idea of rappers killing each other, I feel like that was like, oh man, it's made me win a little too far. I feel like the cats are killing each other. They're confident that no one's gonna use the nuclear bomb today. Just because they just thought they were gonna use the nuclear bomb since 1945. Kendrick, relax, we're not, we're not new to each other.

Yeah, you say that, you say that, but it happened, it happened in history, you know? Tyranny has always taken place. There's Tyranny right now in the world, right? There's North Korea. You go there, there's a run by a dictator. It's full on communism. That shit exists, it's real, it's today. 2024, you wake up, normal, in America, live in Texas, you're all out of the free. Not there, not there, same timeline, same time on Earth. It exists. This is a human natural human pattern.

And to think that the rappers can't shoot each other today is crazy. I know, but I don't want them to. They're so fucking, they're so not tough. Cause like what I like about Tupac and Biggie, they were fucking real, man. I'm not to say that Drake and Kendrick didn't come up. I'm sure Kendrick from Compton, he's probably seen some fucking shit. But what he wraps about is that he's a literally a good kid from this mad city.

Drake wraps about how he's a sensitive guy who just wants to fall in love, you know what I mean? Like, you can't put those words back in a bottle. You know, you say some dark shit about people's families. I was like, why? There you go. But why also? It's like, do you want to engage in that? For what reason? Yeah. What is the end goal? Don't you? Like, you know what, one of the things people do like in a street fight. People don't think, where does this go?

They just think, I want to punch this guy. Fuck this dude, I'm a punches guy. And you think you just punched that guy. But now you've created a real problem. Cause if that guy's still alive, he's going to remember that you punched him and he's going to want to get it back. And he's going to figure out a way to do it, you know, maybe if he's the type of dude who's getting involved in street fights, he probably makes bad decisions.

And so you set off a chain of events that could lead to your death, other people's deaths, prison time, all kinds of crazy shit that can happen. Just because you couldn't keep your emotions controlled in one moment and you didn't think it out. You think, I'm just going to fuck this guy up. No, it's not that simple. Like, nobody likes getting fucked up. They're going to come back tomorrow with some friends. They're going to get a gun. Someone's going to do something.

Yeah, these motherfuckers are talking about each other's kids. That's what I'm saying. On songs, talking about each other's actual children. So it can't be that they're thinking about where this goes. Cause if you thought about where this goes, just don't go to anywhere good. It goes only one place. You know what's funny? I said, right now everyone's like, Oh, Kendrick's killing him. We were talking about this for sure. And I was like, yeah, I'd say Kendrick is up right now.

He's probably winning this battle. And he's being a right way meter, the clever, all that stuff. But I don't think when he went to bed, he felt good. No, no, no, can't be why you got into this business. There's no way and also for YouTube to be the two biggest rappers in the world and doing this, it can't feel good. Cause you know what's funny? I wanted it. I wanted to people that when it first happened, I was like, God, yeah, the two best are going at it. This is what we want.

And now that it's happened, I'm like, wow, I didn't want this at all. And this is dark. And it seems like this one, how many songs are there really so far? They both, I think they're both at like three or four. I think they're both at three. That is so hard. They're both at four. It's songs for each. Four each. Cheese. That's Christ. That's so crazy. Now, imagine if they put that much creativity into positivity.

Imagine if they just released new bangers all the time that they created based on world events. You know, imagine. They have eight songs together. They have about eight right now together. If Nas was mad at Israel and Palestine going to war and just went at them the way he went at JZ, how genius would that be? Crazy. Wouldn't it be genius? Wouldn't it be why? Oh my God. I bet Nas could do that. It's not the only thing that war looks stupid. Yeah, he either. Yeah, he either the war.

He either the whole thing. Not the whole thing. Both sides. Oh, the stupid shit is being said by both sides. Both sides justifying the death of innocent. Not even JZ lived on. That thing's living on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, oh my God, all the college protests, kids are gonna rest it. Bro, that's just crazy, Jim. They're not just that, but they're like spray painting up schools and camping out. Kids are camping out.

They're just looking for this cause that somehow or another is gonna elevate their status. That's a part of it. And also being outraged at what has happened in Palestine, which is legitimate. But it's also been a part of anti-war protests forever. And what's scary is, if you ever, do you know what happened at Kent State? No. In Ohio, Kent State was a cause that was having an anti-war protest and they sent in the National Guard and the National Guard wound up shooting people.

So they were shooting kids. So it was Neil Young wrote a song about it. It became like a cultural moment where we realized how fucking insane things had gotten that the Army or the National Guard was shooting students for anti-war protests. I mean, they just fucking shot people. Four kills in Kent State shooting. The fuck? Yeah, they broke up. They broke up this peaceful protest by students with guns and the Army. They sent the Army in and they shot people. It was crazy. Fucking crazy.

What year was this? This is 74. I think? What year was this? 1970, 1970. Sorry, 70. They shot people, killed kids. Of course, there's a wounding nine others. Men and women killed them. Oh, with rifles. With rifles. Like their armed combatants trying to kill women and children. No. It's a fucking bitch. It's just kids. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's horrible, man. It's fucking horrible. Yeah, what's going on? It's the image of that lady screaming. Yeah, that's so visceral, man.

Bro, this can happen here. Look at the blood pouring out of her. That is so crazy. Oh. Or him. I don't know who did. This can happen here today, man. This is why conflict is not good in any way, shape or form. And anybody that encourages conflict is foolish. It's foolish. Yeah. I mean, my wife, we live next door to the Jewish fraternity on UT's campus. And they have 24 hour armed guards outside now. That's a new thing. We live by them for the last three years.

And the last since that happened on the UT campus, that's what it's like over there now. So you can tell us, like, just at their friend, not at the other ones. So it's like, what the fuck? Yeah. And so there are resting kids that are on campuses. And then the kids become more emboldened. And now there's more of them. And more colleges are having this now. Where kids are setting up these camps. They're launching these camps. They're all sleeping on the lawn.

On the lawns and the tents, they should be here. Yeah. And then if you stop it, they say you're stopping their freedom of speech. But no. Because freedom of speech is you have the ability to protest and to say things and to go out there with signs and to express yourself online. But you don't have the ability to camp places. So you can't just set up a house on the school lawn and keep it there until you decide that it's time to go. Like now you're violating the school's property.

Yeah. Because if you can do it, the white can't homeless people just do it. Now what do we do? Everybody do. Yeah. I can have this to you. Yeah. I think that we have to address climate change. I'm going to set up a tent. And if you open up the door for that, regardless of how you feel about whether or not people should be outraged. And I think they should. You can't just let people camp places. And it doesn't say that in the first amendment. You just take over places.

Yellow, Jewish students that didn't have nothing to do with it and demand compliance. And so a lot of people that all of a sudden they have something to look forward to. This is something important in their life. You can feel it. My friend Constantine from Trigonometry, he went to one of those protests. What college was that? What do you want to, Jamie? Yeah. And he was talking to these kids. It was in New York, right? The Columbia? I think it was that one.

No. Most of them had no idea what the fuck they were there for. They didn't understand the conflict. They didn't understand anything. They were given signs by people. And he interviewed a bunch of people that, like, he tried to ask them and they would get upset at him. He's like, I'm not. I'm just genuinely curious. They didn't really know what was going on. They didn't have a real position for real. The river to the sea means. They didn't know any of that stuff. How did this soldier start?

Do you know the history of Israel? Do you know when it started, you know, when the first Jews arrived there? Like, what is this conflict that's been going on for fucking ever, forever? Yeah. And it takes such a, like, I'm going to get arrested on school campus for it. And you don't even know what's going on. That's wild to me. Yeah. It's wild. The whole thing is wild. Do you think it's because of just internet people want that community? I want to feel like I got a tribe.

I got a, I got not alone. And you're a good person if you want to stop genocide. That's a good thing. Yeah. Trying to stop genocide over here, Derek. Camping, camping to stop genocide. It looks like he's in London, because that's where they live right? Could be New York too, though, bro. I could be. I'm just going to have a hat on. I'm just trying to judge by where they're at. It says politics. Listen to us. Gaza, West Bank, then people to be free. Yeah. Gaza and West Bank.

Yeah, all Palestinians in general, you know, because we know that what's going on. All of them have been oppressed for them to be free. You know, it's nothing. Nothing, you know, it's clear today, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I was just asking them, which bit of the land they... This was in a college protest. This was just a Israel. That was just a Palestine protest. He's done quite a few of these. And they've done a bunch of different people have done as well on college campuses, asking kids.

But a lot of these are... They were a bunch of college kids that he interviewed in this, one of these protests. They don't know what they're protesting. Or some of them do. But a lot of them don't. They're there because they think you're supposed to be a good person. And one of them actually said, oh, my friend said, do you want to go protest? And I was like, OK, it's OK. That makes more sense.

That makes more sense to me why kids are like, because I talked to a sign about it, because I just don't really understand. I was like, why are kids from colleges? I noticed it's an effect in your life. I've been in college before. Just curious. And then I was like, oh, well, maybe I played football. I had a tribe of friends and I was already... So the idea of trying to get into another group of friends. That's what I think it really is. Like you want to feel some community.

Yeah, that's a big part of it. And also genocide. If you watch, they did some drone footage that showed a drone flying over Gaza before October 7th. And then that same drone flying over Gaza today. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. They've erased just giant blocks of this city. It's just erased. Before October 7th, there was like ships. They flew the drone. See if you can find it. If not, I could probably find it. But they flew the drone over the sea. So you see the ships in the sea?

This one's not the exact same one, but... Not the exact same one. Damn. But yeah, you see how the universities have been destroyed. Look at this university. Look how nice it was. It was destroyed. It was gorgeous. Yeah. Look at it. Everything's just... Targeted educational facilities under false permit. Look at that. So they targeted educational institutions because, well, I don't know if it's false premises. The problem is you don't know. Unless you are there, you don't know.

They do have tunnels. They do embed themselves in hospitals. They do embed themselves in different places. And Israel doesn't give a fuck. They're just gonna bomb wherever the bad people are, no matter what's there. Whether it's a school, or whether it's a mosque, and they're just bombing. And if you watch what it used to look like, versus what it looks like now, it's fucking terrifying, man. It's terrifying. Look at that. Yeah, that's the same. Mm-hmm. It's crazy, man.

Everything's just blown the fuck up, and no one's there, and the streets are empty. I mean, look at this. I mean, imagine if you used to live there. That's what, because in your head in America, you're like, oh, that wouldn't happen to me, but it's like, why wouldn't it? That's the... It looks like a nice building in America. Yeah. It looks like a regular, nice building. That's human beings doing that to other human beings. That can happen anywhere in the world. That can happen right here.

And if we didn't have a strong military, and we didn't have intelligence agencies that keep terrorist attacks from taking place and all this shit, you know, but then again, how much are we doing in other countries that is like getting people to want to do something like that here? You know, it's scary stuff, man. It's scary stuff, because it's not you and it's not me. It's leaders that are telling gigantic groups of people that you're opposed to these people over here.

And you get them to be a part of that community, be a part of the tribe, whatever side, whether you're an IDF soldier, whether you're a homos, you feel like you're on the right side, you know, fuck those people up. It's a horrible instinct that human beings have. We've had since the beginning of civilization, just tribal warfare. It's just tribal warfare on a global scale with insanely sophisticated technology, at least on one side.

You're right, because it's like if it was happening when we were cavemen, or when we were, you know, in tribes, the what, it's not like it's any difference. The same thing just on a, yeah, we can communicate now. We can. And with the whole world's watching it. And then it also gives people an opportunity, like these college kids, to protest it and to feel like they're virtuous by camping out and they're not going to take their studies.

And one girl just, there was an interview that she found out she wasn't going to graduate because she got arrested for the, for protests and saw her, her family's flying in to see her graduate and she wasn't going to graduate. She's like, oh, shit. You feel like, what the fuck did I do? I thought this was fun. I just wanted to graduate. I need a job. My parents paid for this. Fuck, and that's a lot of it, too. A lot of it was like young rich kids. You have to be a young rich kid, I feel like.

Those kids that glued themselves to like paintings and stuff, stop oil now. Almost all from wealthy families. Almost all of them from at least upper middle class, highly educated. People that grew up in a struggle, they don't have time to glue themselves to the fucking wall of the museum. Okay? You know, you have to pay for your mom. Your mom doesn't have any money and you have a side job while you're at school. Like, you have to, it's got an injury. Yeah, real shit. Real shit. Real shit.

You don't have time to glue yourself to a wall or cut up paintings. See these fucking psychopaths cut up these paintings from like the 1800s, slice them up or the razor blade, priceless paintings, hundreds of years old. Well, I don't understand because you would think those people would be the same. They're the people who love art. That you're so, you would love art. Yeah, but they don't love art by colonizers and slave owners.

And the thing is, if you go back far enough in history, everyone's a piece of shit. You go back far enough in history. You don't listen to Socrates because he's a pedophile. You go back in history. You don't, well, you don't worship the Spartans. They all fucked each other and they fucked their kids. They fucked everybody. Yeah. These are wild people, man. If you, you just like, pederastic, like pedophiles back then, it was so common. They talked about like having young boy lovers.

It was like an open thing. You know, in other parts of the world right now, and I think, and these would stand. My friends that have gone to Afghanistan and served there, they'll go, dude, it's crazy. Some of the shit you see in Afghanistan with these young boys that get swapped around. Oh, dude, dark shit. That's fucked up, too. Dark shit.

And young boys that they use for sex and these guys don't shave their face or they shave their face or other way, everybody else grows out of beard and they know it and they have like gay guys and they just toss them around. So they use women for procreation, some of these people and they use the boys for fun. Yeah, what the fuck, dude?

And if you go back far enough in history, like that's why you have to take down Thomas Jefferson statue, you know, that's why even Abraham Lincoln's piece of shit. Because Abraham Lincoln, even though he freed the slaves and even though Abraham Lincoln was the president of the United States during the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln also wrote about black people that they were less than 100% of a human being. He didn't consider them like the same as white people.

Yeah. So you got to go, well, he's a piece of shit, too. And then you go back to George Washington, founded this country with a fucking fuck that guy. So it's fuck everybody. I mean, what are we doing, bro? I remember Trump said this once when they were taking down statues of Confederate soldiers. They were taking down a statue of like Robert E. Lee and he said, what's next? You're going to take down George Washington? Never was like, no way.

Meanwhile, a couple of years later, they're taking down George Washington statues. Damn. Yeah. Bro, everybody was a piece of shit back then. And people will bring up like, you know, Martin Luther King, Jr. cheated on his wife. It's like, man, he's, that's not the point. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like what people do that when they try to raise art or history because people are lily. He did and they recorded him. So like they probably set him up, too.

So they probably brought in a hot lady's to fuck him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like how. Exactly. I'm tired of me trying to stop racism all day. They're trying to stop you from dying. They're trying to get everybody to get along. I need to get along. Yeah. So it's like if you go back far enough, like JFK was a notorious womanizer. It doesn't mean they should have shot him. You know, like, hey, they fucking murdered the president.

You know, they stopped concentrating on the fact that he fucked Marilyn Monroe. Like there's a lot of other shit going on. But if you go like way, way back, like everybody's a piece of shit. Even beings were horrible to each other a thousand years ago, two thousand years ago, three thousand years ago. Murder was normal. That Aztec shit just rolling bodies down the steps. Come on. Oh my God, dude. And I poked a lip-dome movie or seeing that. That kind of that shit. Oh, man.

What is that temple again, Tio to a con? The temple to Nochitlon, to Nochitlon. The temple of To Nochitlon by the Aztecs. They don't even know how many people they slaughtered afterwards, but they sacrificed thousands and thousands of slaves. The upper numbers, like 80,000, some people would say it might have been as low as 20,000, whatever the fuck it was. They were finished with the temples that they built. Okay, time to die. When I get a feed you anymore, you've finished your work.

You're going to fucking sacrifice you to the gods. But they had like, the Mayans had this really creepy when I went to Chichen Itza. They have this human sacrifice, like, tray. It's like a guy who's like lying on his back. And there's like a flat thing in front where they would cut people's fucking heads off in front of everybody. So it's at the top of the stairs of this pyramid. You see this thing and they would fucking lace someone down there. I am. In the city just.

Yeah, and just throw that head down the stairs. Head would bounce down the stairs. They don't even know sometimes. There's speculation that sometimes they use heads to play games. These human heads to play like ball games with. Those dudes were fucking wild. They were wild dude. They had ball games where the winning team was slaughtered. The winning team was sacked. I've heard about that. And then that was the honor, right? You still, you wanted to win.

This is one of those things where the guide told me this when we were, we had a really good guide in Chichen Itza. You pay for a professional guide. This guy was cool as fuck. And he also told me that there was something that they were doing. Some sort of psychedelic compound that they were doing in this one very specific area. It was like there was certain things that they did that mimicked or that had lycurgic acid in it, which is like LSD. And so he was explaining all that stuff to me.

They were just talking about the nature of like a lot of these sacrifices. And then they used to think that they would sacrifice the losing team. But then they switched it and they think no, they think they sacrificed the winning team. Which is crazy. That means no one ever got good at the fucking. You win the NBA and everybody gets their head caught off in front of everybody. You won. Now it's time to go to the gods. That's crazy. Me, Moth, they thought it was the way to go.

Like this is gonna be amazing. I'm going to heaven. Moth, they come back as a moth. Just fuck. I was a badass athlete. Now I'm just going towards the flames. Fuck. This is bullshit. Oh my god, I was so cocky. I thought I was gonna make it. Joe. Yeah. Is that true though that they sacrificed the winning team? I've heard that. I've heard that from that guy who's the guide. But this is 2000. People didn't know much back then. You know, I was like, I don't know.

I don't know to this day how much they know about what they don't know what happened, where everybody went. Where are they? I think they died from disease. I think they died from the same diseases that most of the Native Americans were killed with. They showed up with smallpox syphilis and like syphilis they actually got from Native Americans speculative. But a lot of diseases they brought over here and just no one had an immunity to them. These European diseases, they just ran through it.

It killed 90% of the population. The real genocide in North America is disease. How come that didn't happen to us? How come we didn't like some of whatever their diseases we didn't get so effective? We did. We did with syphilis apparently. This is very speculative and it's disputed but I'll just say it. There's more than one version of syphilis. So there's like one syphilis and again I've read different accounts of this.

But there's a syphilis that existed in Europe and then there was a syphilis they believe came from North America that these people that came over on the Mayflower and Oletia, they were fucking some of the Native American people and got their VD and then brought their VD back to Europe. They think that this is why this rash of syphilis, this is one theory about why this rash of syphilis went through like European royalty to the point where that's where the term bigwig comes from. Really?

Yeah. The term bigwig is there's these brothers that were French, they were some royalty and they got syphilis and when you get syphilis your fucking hair falls out, you develop like holes in your skin, your face has holes in it and to cover up the fact that they lost their hair they got wigs and they were so popular that it's like you know what someone wears something stupid, you're like how is that work? Everybody's wearing this thing because Kanye wore it.

So everybody's wearing the same shit that Kanye wore. Well that's how they were. They were so influential that when they got wigs everybody wanted wigs and then since there everyone's fucking everybody, everyone's getting syphilis. So they all have like holes in their faces and shit and they got wigs and the more money you had the bigger the wig. So if you're rich dude, you're a bigwig. That is so crazy. Isn't that crazy?

Because like when you heard that term and I heard that term was a kid, oh he's a bigwig. Like the bigwig is like, oh he's a banker, he's a bigwig. He's a bigass, big shot. That's what it is. Okay well the hoops, sometimes the ball will go through the hoop located at the alley's midpoint. If that happened the whole group would stop and the person who put the ball through the hoop would be hailed as a victor. Helmke said, but he didn't say that that was the point of the game.

He said that might happen once in a while that it was truly exceptional. Moreover the vast majority of ball courts in the Maya do not have hoops. And then here's the sacrifice. Oh human sacrifice. Well just as part two. So like I think the sacrifice part came over when the Europeans came and saw what was happening. They probably did not understand what was going down. Oh, this is interesting. This is interesting. This is probably not really part of it. Interesting. Although it did happen.

But they definitely sacrificed a lot of people, right? And not maybe an association with this game. Oh, I see, I see, I see. Interesting. Interesting. So what does this say there? Given how popular and well attended the ball games were sometimes a captive might be executed at the game just for fun. Helmke said, but these sacrifices weren't an integral part of the game. That person would have been expedited executed anyway. Oh, so they would do it for fun.

So when you ask this question I was looking through this article which comes from a tabloid all the way to the sun, but it talks about these skull towers they found. They had found upwards of 200, but the experts say that that means that there might have been thousands and thousands and thousands of skulls embedded embedded in these towers, but they were destroyed and covered up when the Europeans came. Oh, so they already had these skulls embedded in the these walls? Yeah, not.

Then you asked if they were coming from like the game. I was trying to find out if that's. Oh my God. One historical report claimed one rat contained more than 130,000 skulls. And that could mean like some guy saw it and he was like it was so big there was, it had to be a thousand and thousands of them. And maybe there was, but bro, imagine being back then, imagine going back then before the Europeans conquered them and to see what the fuck were you guys doing.

How did you go back up to that image of the what the outside looked like a little higher up? That one. Just showing up one day to this place going, what the fuck are you guys taking? Because they've created why what are you doing? Why did you guys do this? Why don't you just make a hut? You make these the steps. They're all skulls inside. Bro, they didn't have horses. They didn't have horses. They didn't have horses? No, no. They didn't have horses.

When the Europeans showed up in horses, they thought they were gods. They're like, look at these guys, they're riding horses, they're fucking gods. Yeah, that was part of the problem. They didn't understand how someone could ride a horse like, oh my god, these must be the gods. They must be just like the prophecies. They've come on these beasts, right? And beasts go back and show up in boats like what the fuck? You guys have a boat?

And they just showed up with horses, hopping horses out of the boat like this is crazy. That would be like alien showing up in spacecraft because we would be like, what the fuck? What is this, Jamie? These are the skulls analyzed belong to men aged 20 to 35. And they were all said to have been in relatively good health before they were sacrificed. Oh my god, so it's all sacrifices. Oh my god, 130,000 sacrifices at least in one wall. And good health is crazy. Those people were wild.

They were wild, man, building those structures, no horses and killing everybody. Just sacrifice it people. What were they taking, man? They had to be on seawars, some hardcore trucks. They probably had their own version of meth, just methed out. Spanish conquisstors were appalled at the skull rack when they entered to Nochitlan in 1519.

Two years later, they destroyed the city and paved over its ruins, leaving the Aztec sacrificial remains below the streets of what later became the Mexican capital, holy fucking shit, man. What an energy. That's where Mexico City is, right? To live on top of it. Because Mexico City, like when they're doing construction, they have to stop all the time. Like, hold on, we found a temple. They'll find some shit down there. They find ruins, they find all kinds of things.

For a long time, many historians and anthropologists questioned whether descriptions by Spanish eyewitnesses exaggerated the number of skulls on the skull rack as well as the number of victim sacrifice by the Aztecs. He told Fox News, this discovery now makes those early accounts much more believable. Oh my god, what's the new discovery? Just that, like this whole article is the discovery that they found all the skulls. All the skulls. I'm sure they found it. Fuck, dude. Look at that.

You see evil motherfuckers. What? What were they doing? What were they doing? Confusing me in good health. You guys, they had to be on some kind of meth, some kind of. I wonder if that's why God sent the Europeans to them. Like, you guys are just out of control. We got to teach you Spanish. We got to get you guys spoons. We got to teach you spoons. Teach you Spanish and bring you horses, which is horrible.

If you think about it at the time, I mean, we think about it as a terrible thing that happened. You know, the Europeans came here, brought to Z's, killed everybody, and slaved everybody, turned the whole country Spanish speaking. Like, Mexico speaks Spanish, bro. Spain ain't nowhere near Mexico. What? It ain't even close to Mexico. That's a long journey. I don't know. Raffed. It took over the whole mother fucker. Took over the whole mother fucker. Took over the whole mother fucker.

And the people that were in control of it before then probably worse. Probably worse than them. Sacrificing young, able bodied men. Yeah, and relatively good health. Off with your fucking head. You're become a part of the column. Congratulations. And you're like, yeah, yes. Imagine you're a 25 year old guy, like, come, we got fucking aspirations. One day, I'd like to run this thing. Nope. I'm the one that I'd like to. You can't run this. You can't be a king. You have no chance.

No, you got to be born in this shit. The born into it is the worst, because you can't escape that. Cast system, right? Oh, it's the worst. The most evil trick that anybody ever played on the moon. Man, the most evil trick. I seen it. First time when we went to Abu Dhabi, I seen it. I seen what it was like. Oh, over here you can't. Ain't no coming out of it. Ain't no Joe Rogan. Ain't no coming out of the Boston swarms. Ain't no one making it to this. I saw it from the bottom. No way. Come on!

I'm from the bottom, no way! Let's come on, Joe! Come on, man. But, no. No, there's none of that there. There's none of that there. And that's one of the things about England too. I mean, even in modern England, my friends who've come over from England say, in England, they don't want you to change your status in society. They don't want you to rise up. If you're a lower class, you stay lower class, you're that forever. Well. I like America. Only fans. It's the best.

It's the best you got some big titties you read it. You want to show them you could be a fucking star Bro, I ain't getting a job an insurance company if I got these big titties Yeah, fuck that I feel you ladies go for it. Oh my daughter doing it, but go for it

Yeah, whatever you want to do. I want you to be free. Oh, if you're you know, everybody has different circumstances if you're trapped Yeah, I was what is this you talked about how the horses came with The Europeans, but I was like what did they else did they not use anything to now? I have nothing anything. Mm-hmm. They brought donkeys also donkeys weren't here either. Mm-hmm interesting Yeah, that makes sense

And then mules are the the cross of donkeys and horses. We should the best that didn't exist probably well They probably existed in North in Europe Okay, when did but I don't know let's find out when did they start first start breeding mules? Emules are non-viable meaning a mule can't make another mule You need a donkey and a horse to make a mule Three thousand Wow three thousand BC. Yeah, but they're the most durable They're the sturdiest of animals like the guys who go

Backpack hunting like deep into the mountains my friend Clay Nukum he came on this podcast. He raises mules and He talks about like flashy mules a good looking mule like but mules are like better than horses because mules won't go over the cliff Horses just like oh, it's cool to the cliff mules like fuck you. I'm not going this way. This is dangerous It's an edge. Yeah, when the when the mule gets to a place where it doesn't like it is like

That's why the term stubborn is a mule. That's where that comes from because mules are smart That's they're smart. Yeah, they figured out that that's the animal to run because they they they require less water less food They're more durable. They can last longer with that water and food How many animals are like that in order that it takes two things to make them but they can't make themselves

There's quite a few hybrids like that. That's a ligar like those lions and tigers and the burritos together and then make that one thing It's huge. Yeah, well the thing about the ligar is I think what happens is Whether it's the male lion or the female tiger one of them is missing the gene that regulates growth So when you combine it coy wolf. Yeah, the thing about coy wolf though grisly polar bear hybrid. Yeah

A Walpin. It's a whale of the dolphin. What is that real? That must be the smartest animal alive What a whale in a dolphin a Walpin is extremely rare cessation hybrid Born from a mating of a female common bottle nose dolphin with a male false killer whale

Wow the name applies to a hybrid of a whale in a dolphin although taxonomically Both are within the oceanic dolphin family Which is within the toothed whale Provedor there's a lot of fish there are hybrids There's hybrid bass that are like a hybrid between small mouth and large mouth that happens A jaggolion oh shit Jaggolf a beef below a buffalo that fucked a cow Interesting there's quite a few. Yeah, but most of them can't breathe. Yeah, there's all that's crazy

Most of them can't breed like by themselves. They can't you can't take like two two mules And they won't make a mule. They just fuck they just get wild. There's getting crazy. There's nothing happening Just cases just just just bad loads just useless loads Nothing in there. Yeah Just dead loads Yeah, because nature's like no, no, no, you can't be fucking around like this nature's like you try once and then you're done

This one's not viable. It's interesting like nature is it coded that way or it doesn't like the idea of a dog being able to Fuck a horse and make a dog horse like no Too crazy too crazy. It knows. Yeah, you have to stay within your species and if you're different things in this species like a cat Like a lion and a tiger no babies for you. You can make a you can fuck and make one But that one not making any new ones. That's that's what that is. Yeah

Somehow or another nature just like built-in like a system. It's like no, no, it's too crazy. Is it like I guess like down syndrome How they can't have kids they can't we can have it. They can they can't they can't have kids. Yeah, not only can they have kids they can have kids that are normal Yeah, yeah, I'm 99% sure that Have you ever seen this kind of dog?

What is that? I'd say it 3000 year old boy X-O-L-O-I-Z-C-U-I-N-T-L-I pronounced show low eats queen T-L-E Quintly show you show low eats queen T-L-E Show show yo show low eats queen T-L-E You didn't have to call me I fucked multiple girls with that name The ancient Aztec dog of the gods is today a loving companion and vigilant watchdog the alert and loyal

X-Lo comes in three sizes and he's either hairless or of coated varieties. Wow that hair is awesome That's a 3000 year old dog That's the wildest shit that all dogs come from wolves So that thing at one point in time was a wolf and the bitch ass wolves made their way to the campfire and dropped their ears a little bit and kind of relaxed

And became friends with the people because the people gave him food. Yep, and then they became dogs All dogs even little Carl over there little tiny Carl at one point in time many many many many thousands of years ago Carl was a wolf They don't even know like exactly how long ago that process started there's like guesses But you know they vary by a human did that you did that 100% yeah, we did that cats too or no Um cats are like a lot of wild cats

There's a lot of different kinds of cats that bread but the domestic cat of day is very different than most wild cats But it's like they did this thing with foxes In Russia where they took wild foxes and the ones that were aggressive that like showed any aggression towards people to kill them And the ones that didn't show aggressive they let them breed and they kept doing this over many many generations and In within like a few decades the fox had completely changed his form

They had droopy ears. They had big soft sweet eyes. They had smaller mouths It changed the fox like quick quick like in the the course of this study So not something that took place over thousands of years But by any by killing any one of them that was aggressive They made only the ones that were like sweet and passive survive. That's how you get like my dog That's how you get Marshall He just like any one of those golden retrievers that was mean they didn't let him breed

So what you get is it's like this big sweet loving dog. It just loves everybody and That's how that was a wolf. There was a wolf But over many many many generations of selective breeding they turned it into this crazy thing I don't know how the fuck they did it, but it just shows you how bizarre nature is that nature can make those adaptations I think about humans I mean we were just about the Aztecs are like gangus con people are Vikings to yeah to now Yeah to now yeah

Like we clearly just pacified it. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and especially these kids on college campuses They don't even know what gender they are anymore like there's no need A lot of them are saying is no need for gender or it's all bullshit like they they're trying there

That's the direction that things are moving things are moving into a genderless direction What whether it's being influenced by who what how or when that's irrelevant what's what's what I'm saying is It's clearly moving in that direction And if you didn't have anything to do with the population if you were something that was completely outside of society looking at us

He'd be like oh, they're like feminizing. They're feminizing everything. Yeah, they're also feminizing in terms of even men are behaving like bitches Yeah, they're behaving like like catty wenches And and it's also rewarded. It's rewarded and it's not disgusting Whereas it would be disgusting behavior for a man to behave like that in a tribal society that requires those men to be strong and stoic

Like you have to be able to sword fight stupid. Yeah, they rid of that man. Yeah, you can't that guy's a bitch a catty man in a tribe. Yeah, the fuck we do it. Yeah Yeah, he's talking to your girl while he was on a reading party. I Think I longed he survived as a male feminist in the tribal society Oh, you I get because I come home my wife said that to that you said that and I kill you right yeah I feel like you'd be a part of that column immediately. Yeah, immediately. We have to get rid of you

Yeah, you have to get rid of you and everyone else in the tribe like oh, thank god. You got rid of that. Yeah, that guy was a problem Yeah, the problem dark But if you do that over time and there's enough safety we become just like dogs We become some sort of a domesticated version of what was once wolves And I know if that's good about bad yeah, because we're resisting it in some ways because it's that there's still the problem is

There's these passive people are not overall kind. They're very aggressive with trying to enforce their ideas on everybody else And you must comply so it's very much like I'm gonna get back at you thing It's being picked on when you were a young thing and outside there that's finally a part of a gang And you're like you're gonna enforce these ideas on other people So the ideology is not rooted in compassion even though it pretends to be it's in rooted like all the ideologies

It's rooted in control and people are just trying to control people and get everyone else to comply with the way they now see the world And when you're weak and you're doing that it's not good because you're also like you're angry at the world You're angry at the way you were mistreated or you were an outsider and now you're not now you're a part of a group And so now you're gonna and do the exact same thing to people that they did to you

You're gonna hurt them just like you got hurt. Yeah, bro. It's the worst mentality. Is that happened to me Happened to me that's what you're being said. Happy to me. That's how it was for me. Yeah, it's like what don't you want it to not be that way?

Yeah, people don't man Yeah, it's just a natural human instinct for fucking whatever bizarre reason man So it's it's a control thing that's the scary thing you can't let people control it doesn't mean that you shouldn't let people Drift off into this genderless direction like you do whatever you want to do

I think this is happening whether we like it or not. I think it's happening with it There's a lot of like chemical influences His microplastics that are influencing the way testosterone levels are in young people the development of their sex organs and this This this gonna be doing something. It's gonna be doing something

There's propaganda that's actually getting through your phone too. That's affecting the way people reward certain types of behavior And people like to gravitate towards behaviors that are rewarding You know if you're a loser and then also you're amazing because now you're wearing a dress You're like I'm gonna keep wearing this dress everybody like fucking hugs me when they see me the thing

I'm cool. These things are a loser Yeah, and that's and that you hear that you're like damn I understand that I understand it I want to be hugged too like but if I was objective and I was it wasn't A part of the human race which I clearly am if I was looking at it from outside I would say like what is the end goal of this like where does this go? Well, it's clearly going to some genderless alien-looking direction. I think that's what the aliens are

When we see that archetypal alien the big head the genderless body. Yeah, I think that's where we're going I think that's just I think even if aliens aren't real even if you don't really see them I think that's an archetype in our head because it's almost like a like a light

On the path that showing us this is where you're going you're going to that this futuristic. Yeah, everyone is one being Vikings Genderless slowly but surely right caveman Vikings genderless Yeah But the thing is they're not nice You know you can go that way if you want but don't try to

And you don't force it on people that were born biologically male. There's nothing wrong with that That's not this the whole reason why you're not speaking German shut the fuck up like like this whole idea of like toxic masculinity

That's all great until you need someone to help you. You need it. That's all great until you need someone to open up a jar of mayonnaise You know Listen, you need all those things you just need people to be nice You need to be people to be nice that are like savages and people that are nice that are pacifists

Everyone should just be nice and we can live like that. Just don't fuck with each other Yeah, you never see him not never but it is crazy that they make such a big deal about gender stuff sometimes

It's like well, you don't look happy though. You don't look We're not being nice about it, which is you're not being nice what you would want But it's because they also feel like they're embattled right there in this thing They're fighting for their cause and then they exaggerated like there's a trans genocide like What stop? Okay, you getting away with too much because you're in a university setting and everybody like saying you're amazing

You know once a question. No, let's go shot the fuck off. Yeah, because you that's the other problem with kids today It's like they only have one thought process is one ideology It's not a bunch of right-wing people that are fucking camping and I'm making sure they can carry guns at school because it's a school shooter

We're gonna camp out until we can carry guns and fucking building. No, that's not that's not gonna happen So it's like you've got one ideology and the crazy thing is like There's two sides that ideology because the left wing is always Jewish too There's not a lot of like really hard

Wings Leslie thinking about like Ben Shapiro and a few other Dennis Prager right-wing Jewish folks a lot of Jewish people that we know They're Democrats They've always been kind of traditionally like what what percentage let's find this out

What percentage of Jewish people vote Democrat? That's even a Pole I bet has to be and I bet you the No, so group could tell you they won't they don't want to tell you that they know they'd be fucking track Yeah, they know they know But I would guarantee it's a very high number

So now you have a conflict amongst that side because you have one side that says that what's happening in Gaza is genocide And the other side that says Israel has the right to defend itself and that this is uh, you know what we did in Iraq after 9-11 What we did in did it after that what we did in Japan

All no one knows mad at any of them. Yeah, gotta sign. Tell me recently 7-10 Jewish adults identify with or lean towards a Democratic party and have described their political views as liberal Yeah So 7-10 70% and so inside that party You've got people that are literally on college campus is saying death to the Jews and supporting Hamas

And you're supposed to be left wing too. So now you're like if I was a country that was trying to destroy America I would I would push these ideas interesting subsect the orthodox Jews which is one in 10 of Jewish adults is 60 to 75% conservative of a Republican that makes sense right because they're like strictly religious Which would make you much more conservative 75% identifies Republicans or lean towards the GOP and 81% approved of Trump's job performance at the time of the survey

Everybody is making money. We're making money Derek let's wrap this up. You're a fucking man. It's been a pleasure Getting to know you and becoming friends with you either at the store and I just want thank you for being one of the early adopters Coming out here early on and it's been beautiful man. We're having a good fucking time. I have a joke Thank you for changing my life brother. I appreciate you. I love you too. All right. Goodbye everybody