#1906 - David Goggins

The Joe Rogan Experience by Joe Rogan Park Gas by Night All Day! You can do a podcast of any fucking day, man. Pretty much this week, every day. But I was just on vacation. How was vacation? Nice. Little vacation's hard, you know, because like even though I had a joy rest, I always feel like I shouldn't be. I always get it. You go on vacations? Never? No. For me creatively, it's good to get a reset because I come back in guns blazing like a really, I don't risk any mental burnout when I do it.

I have my reset, but my resetter like I call it eight stations, mental eight stations. So when you're going fucking hard and you're grinding all the fucking time, like everybody knows you're 24 hours in the day, but I'm in the shower, it's a mental eight station. I don't think about shit. I don't fucking think about people. I don't think about work, I don't think about running, I don't think about working out.

I'm in the car, another fucking mental eight station, where I'm fucking eating mental eight stations. So people eat and they work and all sorts of shit, man. So I can grind hard because a lot of times, man, I'm in mental fucking a stations. So you have a little mini vacations, man, all day long. All day long. Do you feel now almost a responsibility to like stay at it all the time because so many people are watching and paying attention and drawing inspiration from you?

100% I mean, like I probably would have retired a long time ago, but I get these emails from people and it's like they're living through me like their strength comes through what they know I'm doing. So there's so many times I want to get up and say, I'm not fucking, I got mine. I'm good. And I'm like, fuck, fucking Tommy out there.

I'm like, fuck, fucking Tommy talking about his email, Tommy talking about fucking man, his life. I ran 10 miles last night because you man, I'm like, you know, a lot of people can live off of that and they can fucking be good with that. And you know, a lot of motivational people come out here and run their mother fucking miles about shit. And I know they are not doing shit. They sit back and they're fucking like, you know, they have the little brainstorming sessions about, what should we say?

What's going to connect with people while they're sending their fucking ass? My brainstorming sessions is fucking out there in the fucking grip of life, fucking grinding. And that's where all my material comes from to suck. Every bit of it comes from the suck. And that's the difference between, there's like a whole industry now that's dedicated to try to help people get motivated.

And a lot of the people that are involved in that are very unqualified. 100% because they're not really doing anything. No. There's so many people that haven't actually done anything, but they'll try to teach you how to get your life in order, how to get your mind right and develop that warrior mentality. I'm like, bitch, you don't have that.

Well, they're utilizing the weakness of the world right now. The world's in a very bad place. So these people who are like car artists, they sit back and say, oh, I can come up with this. This right here can probably be some money. So they're in it for fucked up reasons. There's just not a whole lot of people like you. You know, I love that phrase, uncommon amongst uncommon men.

Because it's such a good phrase because it just shows you you've been on this path for so long and you're grinding for so long. But you're also honest about there's moments where you don't want to fucking do this, which is why it's so interesting because you do it. You do it without any reservation. You just go through it. But you always talk about, I don't want to fucking do this shit, but you always do it.

But that's what people need to hear because they feel like that somewhere out there, there's some superhuman person who never feels despair and doesn't have any. There's no hesitation. So they feel like there's this person that's so different than them and so much stronger than them and doesn't ever have any procrastination. And you're like, that's not me. No, I love that phrase. You told me once he goes, sometimes I look at my fucking shoes for half an hour proper those bitches on.

It's a true statement. But what I do though, man, is I can't with this thing called perform without purpose. And so many people, they need to have a 5K, a 10K. I need to have a course in front of me. I need to have something in front of me for me to get my fucking ass up and do some shit. And that used to be me. And nowadays, you know, shit for past 20 some years, I don't need fucking purpose. And people miss out on this man. The purpose, we're all looking for this golden purpose.

Is it this? Is it that? Is it making money? Is it my family? Motherfucker, the purpose is you. We forget that every fucking day I wake up and I don't want to do some fucking shit. I'm like, okay, man, do you want to be a bitch today? Do you want to feel like a little bitch? Do you want to walk around all day knowing that you could but you didn't?

So I, it's performed without purpose. You have to learn how to get up and do shit when you ain't got no fucking 5K, no 10K, nothing, nothing exists. Your life fucking sucks. You're in the fucking dungeon. But guess what, Motherfucker, I'm still going to get it because when that time comes, because the time is going to come when that purpose is there. You'll be ready. But most of us fucking aren't ready because we don't know how to do without having the golden carrot in front of us.

Yeah. And so you're all fucked. There's also this thing where if you do it, once it's over, you get a break. Oh, like that's what a 10K is. That's what a marathon is. I'm going to train for this marathon. And you're training and you're training for that big day, but you're also recognizing when that marathon's over.

That's right. That's right. And as you get better at that, ah, moment, the all moment becomes less and less. So my all moments now are like, oh, I ran today. I went to the gym today. I did this and this today. I studied today. I've been by eight hours off. And those eight hours are glorious to me. And every day you go back out and you start earning that and every day you wake up, it sucks. And when it's over, you feel better.

It sucks. You feel better. And as you get going, every step you take in that journey, as you're like, for me, run every day, fucking hate it. But every step I take, I'm like, all right, motherfucker, you beating the demon again. You won every day, but I don't think people understand how fucked up your knees are. No, no, no, no. You, you, you run every, you when you sent me that X-ray after your surgery. And I looked at what they did to your knee. And, and I looked at what it looks like. Right.

Right. What the actual bone on bone looks like and how it had distorted, because there's no cushioning at all. No. And the doctor said to you, I can't even believe you could fucking walk on these knees. Yeah, forget about run thousands of miles. So you're doing this every day in constant pain. Right. Right. What is it like? Well, I don't see explain your knees, first of all.

So, okay. So people think that my knees are bad from a lot of running and they're wrong. I wasn't born healthy. I wasn't born with some great body alignment, some great, you know, I have sickle cell, I've all kind of shit. I've all kind of health issues, you know, all kind of, I'm fucked up. So I had a choice to make. And the choice was, you know, growing up, you know, okay, this hurts, that hurts.

We can just sit down and do nothing. Or we can see how far we can push the human body. So on that journey, as I started getting more and more into my mind, I started realizing that while what I'm capable of doing, my mind got stronger. So the pain in my knees, while sucked, I've been doing it for so long. It was like it became a new norm, like, okay, my knees hurt, fucking stop. And I call it like I'm stopped feeling sorry for yourself, but you sometimes had to ignore your feelings.

I'm not saying Jamie a picture you need. No, no, do I think Jamie has some. Do you have a picture of his knee, Jamie? Did I ever shout, send it to you, Jamie? I have it here. Hold on. Let me just, but keep going. No, so it's like for me, I made the decision. And my decision was to be the best person I could. And I basically a lot more as I wake up and say, fuck your feelings.

And that doesn't mean like, you know, don't take it literally, fuck your feelings. But sometimes you have to go beyond what you're feeling. And my knees were fucked, but guess what? I wanted to run. And I knew that, okay, you can get knee replacements this and that. Like I said, it wasn't because of I ran too much. People always want to say, oh, you ran so much so you fucked up your body. You know, you don't want to be like David Goggins. I hate it all time. You don't be like David Goggins.

But this episode of the Joe Rogan experience is brought to you by Call of Duty. You know, when a new Call of Duty drops, everyone's trying to find a way to squeeze in those extra hours of gameplay.

I get it. Life is busy, but sometimes you just. Hey, Joe, it's the replacer. Yeah, no, you, hey, I'm going to take it from here so you can enjoy some Call of Duty black of six. Great. Now listen up folks. Life can be chaotic, but you shouldn't have to miss out on the latest Call of Duty just because you've got. I don't know.

Responsibilities. That's where I come in. I will handle the boring stuff like work chores, even podcast ads so you can dive right into the fight. Call of Duty black of six is out October 25th. So dive in because I've got your back. Remember, I replace you play. It's not simple.

Man, the replacer always gets it done. Seriously though, if you're hooked on Call of Duty, this is your time to jump in. Head over to call of duty dot com slash black op six to get in the game. Call of duty black op six pre order now.

This episode is brought to you by the farmers dog dogs are amazing. They're loyal. They're lovable. Like just having Marshall around can make my day 10 times better. I'm sure you love your dog just as much and you want to do your best to help them live longer healthier happier lives.

And a healthy life for your dog starts with healthy food just like it does for us. There's a reason having a balanced diet is so important. So how do you know if your dogs food is as healthy and as safe as it can be well. Farmers dog gives you that peace of mind by making fresh real food developed by board certified nutritionist to provide all the nutrients your dog needs and their food is human grade which means it's made to the same quality and safety standards as human food.

Very few pet foods are made to this strict standard and let's be clear human grade food doesn't need the food is fancy just means it's safe and healthy. It's simple real food from people who care about what goes into your dog's body.

The farmers dog makes it easy to help your dog live a long healthy life by sending you fresh food that's pre portion just for your dogs needs because every dog is different and I'm not just talking about breeds from their size to their personality to their health every dog is unique plus precise portions can help keep your dog at an ideal weight which is one of the proven predictors of a long life.

Look no one dog or human should be eating highly processed foods for every meal it doesn't matter how old your dog is it's always a great time to start investing in their health and happiness so try the farmers dog today you can get 50% off your first box of fresh healthy food at the farmers dog dot com slash Rogan plus you get free shipping just go to the farmers dog dot com slash Rogan tap the banner or visit this episodes page to learn more offer applications.

Offer applicable for new customers only so there's your yeah there it is look at the fact that there's zero space between those bones sir from the top from your your tibia to your femur there's zero space it's just knee cap. Covering two bones that are rubbing against each other and so.

This was after surgery where they had a cut your knee slice your shin like in half and then take a chunk out of it because it had to form so much from you running with bone on bone that was starting to like swell out in one direction right it was changing the alignment of your leg right this happened back in 2000 2000 was going to buds.

So this happened for long this is this right here is going on for a long time so and it got to a point where it's like okay i'm done and that's the place in the right now so as you see the wedge. That part in the bone that's opened up yeah so they cut it realign it and then now the alignments better but this is now about 17 months ago 17 18 months ago and this happened so. Can you get some screws at fit go back to that. That's real. That's the one that one sticks right out of the fucking bone.

Hey cut that shit off. Yeah fine that shit down is that thing sticking in your leg no I don't well I feel the plate every single time I move yeah so every team so because it's like connected to the hamstring so whenever I fucking whenever I move that plate is very irritating so every step even like when I walk and I run this is this is very irritating thing.

And then you got weight for so long that lay to start getting back into place and if you see that other picture I sent of the foam my foam leg that put my hand in I think Jennifer sent it to you Jamie with the foam leg you see this in a second this is fucked up so like the swelling in that leg was fucking nuts. Oh when you had a demon yeah you showed it to me in Vegas yeah you were sticking your thumb into your.

You grabbed it yeah so it was it was pretty nuts but um you know once again it's just things you uh things I was willing to endure to get yeah right there. So that's just all post surgery swelling yeah so when the doctor said this to you and he he said look this is how fucked up your knee is. Did he say you need a replacement what what was he saying basically I had two options so I went to the first guy had the surgery done that's in the book I talked about that.

But then the second guy so after the first surgery I was done so this is the first surgery after buds no so this is like back in looking at 2000 so me and Cameron this is recently so I didn't have any surgery going to but really I didn't have any surgery at all so I went through in 2001 I fucked the 2001 but I was I messed up my leg real bad and how we kept on going on it just kept on going.

What did you do to it and how we it was like I I fucked it up somehow like running or whatever I haven't even can't hurt me but um it was uh I think the boat I fell it twisted but over a period of time it's got worse and worse and worse so I was getting like toward all shots every day and then this got worse but I'm like fucking I'm good so I kept going on it so it kind of healed all fucked up.

So let's keep going kept going kept going years later years later kept going on it so I stopped squatting so it became okay my knees fucked up my linemen messed up my hips are messed up I can't squat so I can still run so okay started running because run it isn't we can require you been down and shit so I'm running a lot and they got to 20 years later pretty much and it was 2020 or I don't get this right.

Camden Haynes came down we went for 20 mile run my knees were fucked up for like 10 years long story short it was like okay man I got to get this thing looked at so when got looked at the dog was like oh we can go in there and just do a quick little fucking you know cleanup job and the cleanup job went so quick.

Yeah I was breaking tools and shit fucking up like literally broke tools and I have it in there he was breaking tools I talked to him now no it's only your meniscus was the hardest meniscus he's ever experienced in his life he's like dude he goes I didn't know that meniscus could get that way he goes like he's not human he goes when I was cutting in the meniscus it broke the scalpel yep wolf's lost in jomey said wolf's lost something yeah he said normally when you cut in the meniscus it's like I'm not going to do it.

You cut in the meniscus it just slices right through like butter he's like I couldn't cut it. Yeah my went butter my went butter so all those motherfuckers who think I'm putting them 100 weeks go fuck yourself bitch you don't get no shit like that baby I send the fucking couch. No I mean that's the craziest thing I've ever heard like you've hardened your meniscus just through constant pressure and pounding yeah so he wouldn't have to clean it up and then what happened.

So basically that little meniscus that whatever the fuck was in the so my so my alignment was so bad the only thing that was keeping me able to do anything was that little fucked up messed up meniscus it was all jared up and jacked up with the second that thing got out dude it was like I was heavy

seeing star wars those those storm thing those those those those big fucking things that they called them. They have wildly legs they hit like long robot things that's how my leg was it was it had nothing it was just like a little dangling fucking like so from my knee down the shin the tip fib it just dangled like there's nothing and I was like okay man this.

So it's worse after the clean up much worse like I was done I went from running 200 miles so I did 240 mile race in in 2020 October 2020 it was moab when out there got second place 62 hours he was fucked up getting it drained before the fucking race but I still ran 240 miles.

Lately five or six days before the race I'm getting it drained and it was a baseball size fucking it's called a baker's assist so they drained it and I went in and did the race finished it and I was like okay here we go we're not to do some more race and I did like another tour at my lower did a couple more races and then I can say camp came down right after that I went got this surgery done and I went from running every day to now I have some fucking legs just dangles and after that surgery

this fucking dangling I was like okay man fucked just from that little piece of my neck just that little piece of my niscus I'm sitting okay man this is not this doesn't make any sense to me this is something fucked I don't understand why I can't I can't put your pressure my leg the the amount of blood they were taking out was was unbelievable so there's a blood right there Jesus Christ that's the blood dude oh my god is 12345

the black blood yeah that is de-octinated blood so whatever was going on with every the fuck was going on that's why it looks different color so the red blood is the blood that has oxygen that's right and that was just like coagulated just fucked up blood yep Jesus yeah so that so after surgery I'm like I'm like seven seven days out of whatever the fuck it was it once again I know the exact

times but I have been in the book I have everything fucking doubt in I went back and I was like man I'm fucked up I mean it's a simple meniscus surgery man like people go back a week later they're playing two weeks three weeks tops I'm like man I'm never going

to fucking run again I'm gonna walk with the fucking lamp so I'm going back I'm getting fucking like I'm literally get my knee drained every week getting PRP I'm like man but in the back of my mind I know how far I can push myself I know my body so

fucking well so well and I'm like this is this is wrong I'm I'm never gonna run again I'm never gonna run again I walk with the lamp so this went off about six six months so I had the surgery done in February is a February March April May June about four months

four months after surgery four or five months I'm like hey Jennifer I gotta find her that's you know somebody else looking at my fucking knee so I try to keep my shit together but imagine when you go from every day you're fucking life grinding and you go to nothing like literally like 90 minute

surgery done that's crazy that it was just a little meniscus scope 90 minute surgery done and I was like okay man this is anyway so I was gotten him doctor gammal out of New York and we fly there but I'm like he can't fix this man because I knew it was a lot more

than these it was just it was all kind of this fucked up body shit and I am walking the office and he decides to see me and me and Jennifer and their Jennifer's happy she's happy shit it's like oh my god man this guy's gonna be able to get you a fucking meniscus replacement he was all kind of gurued out but I'm a realist bro I will push myself and I will go as far as I can but I also in my realist I also knew the back of my mind I'm not

gonna try ruin your fucking party Jennifer this one say myself but this just done so over so I went just to pretty much the piece her and just see we know anything left so walking the office and docs like yeah I'm looking at your x racing that's the doctor who's like I don't know how this is when the doctor gammal looking

up world renowned motherfucker dude and this guy looked at me straight faced he said man I don't know how you did anything with those needs anything let alone run 200 miles back to back 240 miles really fuck you down how you did it and so I'm like okay whatever can we

get it fixed and he want to get there because he knows fucked is like no you know we we can maybe you know try and in a loader brace maybe no loader brace will help you out what's an unloader brace so basically my knee went in on the meniscus side on the inside

so it was like jamming on the inside so this brace kind of like it kind of helps realign the knee a little bit so then you cannot have so much pressure on the inside your leg so yeah so basically I'm like man I'm like okay I'm not so this is all you have

for me I think you can't do shit for me and he was like no and he was walking out of the office and he could tell I was like I wasn't too fucked up but I was like because I kind of was preparing myself for the next part of my journey I don't like to lay in my shit too

long you know I give myself a couple minutes okay I'm on the front we got man to fuck up we got get back in this fucking like what's next you know let's go let's go see what you know let's go back to Kyle is just let's do something because you're you're running and you have

let it Chris done so he got the door you opened it and as he was literally he was showed her out the mother fucking door and I'm looking at her from like well you know we'll go back to fucking you know go back to Nevada and fucking start again and he was like try the unloaded brace out and there's one more thing we could possibly do for you and I'm like mother fucking like get you a little monkey fucking ass back in here bro like what is it like like like what the fuck's going on so he was like

yeah there's this surgery called HTO he was like you can go in we can fucking you know pretty much break your tibia it's called high tibia osteotomy they go in and they break your tibia they they like slice into it and they they wedge it to the point where they realign your leg back up it's a very painful surgery is very painful afterwards painful as fuck afterwards and they put that plate to plate you saw back on and then your leg is so your knee is still

where it was because this doesn't get fixed so it takes several months for that need to start working it way back into where that line minutes so now my leg is just now so here it is see it on the image yeah so they take a slice out of it yep because it's deformed yep and that slice lowers the part that's deformed and tries to make it a more natural shape but you're still dealing with bone on bone so you're still you're still dealing with the

pain of arthritis essentially because you do you have any cartilage in your knees not much not much at all if any so the thing about it it takes that pressure off of that so it was complete bone on bone right with that surgery does is it takes it over to the lateral side so on the outside so I have a nice meniscus over there that thing wasn't touched for years because I was born all the pressure was on the my my my medial meniscus so your knee had been missing one

your whole life that's what yeah that's my whole life has been fucked up so my meniscus on my lateral side is pristine so now the way he did it is that all of my pressure is going on to that pristine meniscus okay so now it's all about getting that leg back aligned which is taken forever and it's still not aligned it's getting there it's getting there yeah it's getting there can they do a meniscus replacement on

you no so that's what I wanted to get done but if your knee is so far gone like mine was there was no option for that why is not because my knee was so far gone so it was like when you put that meniscus in there however it works he said it wouldn't have taken it like basically yeah we were taking it but we're the fucking destroyer because your leg is so you need so fucked up so this was the only option for

me don't they make like an artificial meniscus now as well yep and this with this guy really is specializes in so he's he's like they got to go too fast stuff what is an artificial meniscus consist of I guess it's just I have no idea I'm not even gonna get in that shit see if you can find

what that is because I got some fucked up knees too not like yours though if everything about complaining I look at yours yes sir see our world's first artificial meniscus available in Israel and you go on Jayes Gamal yeah there he is and so this it looks like some sort of a clear

gel looking stuff and which is you know the meniscus is just a cushioning in between the two bones in the cartilage and this is uh I'll look at that yep hmm but they can't do that to you no you have to be a good candidate for that so you need has to be in a certain certain condition and

mind was not in that condition yes it was if if you work candidate for that will they be able to do it and you be able to run or is that just like to move around and walk from what I read about you can you can run you can do everything you want to do but sometimes if you do a lot it wears it out

hmm but you can get a new one yeah that's not bad man for you it doesn't work no because basically it wouldn't even work for me because my knee was gone but the way he reshaped it wouldn't that correct I mean he kind of like changed your alignment of your knee and made it

more normal right I think it had you made it more normal but from what I understand um if you put that in there structurally like like structural wise what makes it more normal is the surgery he did hmm so right now there's no bone on bone for me so there's no need for that

meniscus at all so a lot of people get their meniscus taken out if you have the right alignment and your body can do it's supposed to do really yeah but if you get your knee your meniscus taking out your cartilage on cartilage if you know um the Wayne Wade the Wayne basketball player yeah

I believe the Wayne Wade played years years if I'm correct with no meniscus yeah like I think in both his knees Jesus yeah years he had he had he had he had like really bad knee problems but his meniscus was messed up back in the day they used to take it out so if you look here here it is

that's college wow surgery to remove the meniscus and his left knee 11 years ago while he was at Marquette led to ongoing knee problems he's out with Miami he I'm so glad that you have this fucking thing to pull up Jamie because I would be talking out my ass have to do what I do man you fucking

fucking squirm your way bro these are a problem man yeah and the fact that you require your knees to do what you do like your your whole thing is endurance athlete right and to be an endurance athlete you gotta be able to move your legs yeah I be able to move them but what I like about

and this was this was like literally a trained skill for me was I'm always preparing for like not being a bitch like a lot of people get to a point like for instance like if Jennifer can't do something like if you know if if if she can't go for a run or whatever just like because she

something's wrong like some simple shit it's a good bother I got to point my life where I realized this is life and so I move on past things real quick so people like oh my god what are you gonna do David if you can't run motherfucker I'll swim or I'll go to college or I do something I'll say this

like like this isn't my life so I'm I'm I'm I'm very aware how quick life can take shit from you and I've always prepared my mind for the next chapter and what happened with me was I started this thing called front loading so when I was young I used to be a little piece of shit you know

like fucking oh I'm not good enough I can't do this I can't do that the second I got my head on my ass and I realized man you can achieve a lot of shit if you get off your ass and you start moving and you start motivating yourself try becoming a self-motivator so I start a front loading

in front loading is people you know you've done so much by 47 because I don't know what tomorrow is gonna bring me so my my military resume is fat you know I fucking did a lot in the military I did a lot outside the military I've I've made money I've I've done almost every race out there hard

race in the world I've broken pull up records I've done a lot of shit so when these bad times come and also not like I know that like work your ass off so so you can enjoy yeah you're taking a shot you know you you may not live to be old but what if you do and you worked your ass off when

you were able and you were able to fucking get up early able to grind if you front loaded properly the back half of your fucking life is money and that's what I did the second I realized that man you are a piece of shit we got to get going because at 47 man you not can be able to do any of this

shit 50 whatever you are so our front loaded so all these bad things have happened to me I said back how are you handling so well motherfucker I've done it I front loaded I have the money I need have the success I need I have the fucking the determination the willpower and also the pride in

myself so when I wake up every morning I know who the fuck I am our front loaded perfectly so I don't care what's taken from me but it's got to still it's got to be a strange position to be in where your body is your medium the body is the vehicle for you to express yourself right and your

body's breaking down and I know that they consider doing knee replacements on you too yep yep and what was that conversation like it was it was very basic man's like hey you know you're not going to be able to do something shit that you've done even though I obviously people are

but that was the conversation and I know it sounds weird it was totally fine with me it was fine because I had dude people understand this this this wasn't like a part-time job man when you've done without like Kobe Bryant when Kobe fucking retired at last game he like 60 points at some

shade walked off the court he ain't fucking cry he's gonna miss the sport what a fuck he walked off he gave everything he could man when you fucking give what I've given and motherfuckers like to say oh you fuck you you don't fucking know shit which makes me who I am I've given everything people

make all you you ran off fucked up knees you taped your feet up you did a ball he had two heart serves you kept on going yep sure did I had somewhere to fucking go I had some of the fucking going I got there and buddy when motherfuckers tell you you can take a break now hey you fucked up

as long as my knees are halfway we're I got to run you tell me man maybe maybe you chance I can't run no more hmm give me an excuse to fucking out of do shit but as long as I have no excuse I got to do it but I was I was happy where I was I gave everything I gave everything to who I am

and that's why I'm people I don't believe that don't don't believe it I gave everything and when you get everything that you have no regret people didn't understand me people don't understand me now I don't give a fuck I know exactly what I was doing I'm not a master kiss I'm not crazy I'm

not this and that people try to title me and label me no I had something to fucking do well the way I described it to people when people ask me like why does it do all these things like what is it what is the motivation here I go he's on a mental journey that very few people have ever been on

because the people don't understand you they or they misunderstand you or they purposely misinterpret the way you're living your life you're trying to understand your mind in a way that very few human beings ever get to understand their mind because you're taking your mind into

these terrible dark places all the time and you're trying to pull things out of that you're trying to learn things about yourself and about your potential from that it's exactly it and that's what people don't understand I study the darkness you you you find no fucking answers in the light

none it's too happy it's too nice and we're not we're not going to be taught how to live in happiness well that that just comes naturally to us happy moments but the dark times man you can't and you can't get there unless you put yourself there life will take you there but when you get into those

dark moments it's what people that's why people how are you able man I couldn't fucking read and write to I was a junior high school how are you able to write like this man motherfucker I go to such places in my mind and I study the darkness like it's not just physical when I was

growing up and I saw my mom getting beaten I got beat and I was some stuttering little black kid in all white school and I'm on stage and I gotta say one line one fucking line in front of fucking 15 people and I walk off stage kind of as fucking stutter all those insecurities and all

those fucking things man I used to go home and fucking cry and I'm like God man fucked up this whole fucked up I'm I'm I hang on man as I got older we gotta study this shit man the only way we're gonna fucking get through this if we study it so every time I'm in a dark moment and life's

fucked up around me whether it be physical or just life I get in it man with a fucking pin in paper I'm like okay this fucking sucks I can feel like I'm fucking losing my ship let's fucking study this let's come out of this motherfucker genius you know I started the I studied the the the

black matter of the mind the dark matter you know like fucking Stephen Hawking that's that's fucking his name I said right that motherfucker stayed at the space and shit yeah that's where I consider myself man you know I was on a journey just like you said I mean you you you couldn't

say they need better and so many people get it wrong I don't give a fuck man you can't for me I cannot help people there's a lot of cookie cutter shit out here in this world oh discipline wake up early take coach shower fuck this fuck that whatever it's all fucking bullshit it's not

but what they don't teach you within the cookie cutter is like our minds are like a fucking garage and the garage you if you open a garage it's all cluttered up it's all fucked up you can't put your car in there you got fucking boats and you got fucking kids toys and shit everywhere but if

you organize that fucking garage and you put everything in this rightful spot you can pull that car in there you can put two cars and you put bikes in there and that's like with the mind people talk about discipline and fucking determination and fucking you know repetitions and all this shit

consistency why people fall off the wagon so often is because their mind is full of shit there's no room in that mind for discipline there's no room for consistency they may do it once or twice but then the mind takes over and that cluttered fucking garage comes in and then it's

like a circuit breaker man a circuit breaker just overloads and it fucking sparks in our minds that's that's our mind man it's like a fucking circuit break that's so much shit in it you keep on loading it you can't put any more into it so I've I've talked about it in there man so much about

clearing space in your fucking mind so then you have room for all those discipline waking up early taking those because they they they do mean something but we don't get to that fucking dark matter that is keeping you from clearing out that mental garage that's a good way to put it

because that is the mind of most people is filled with stuff that they have to move around to get to what they want and it's constantly piling up and shit unorganized and organized my man you looking at the fucking I gotta take care of the kids the kids scales all fucked up my husband

my wife you know I fucking I'm going by my downs to get this and I'm rushing my schedule everything's this fuck I wish I was doing this but I'm doing that that's it and that and this and I want to raise but I can't get one that's it I bought the asshole where's greatness in that man

you can't you you can't fit discipline in that you can't fit structure you can't fit consistency you can't fit the grind and then when you try it just gets fucking it gets fucking overrun by the fucking clutter and you're fucked up mental garage when you are in these dark places and you're

gathering up these lessons how difficult is it to try to bring that back and convey it to people when you're not in that space like when you're in that space when you're in the Moab 240 and you're going uphill and you're in the middle of the great it's just deep suck right how do you

convey where that mental fortitude comes from how do you bring that back it's almost like you've got something you can't even hold in your hand right and you want to show it to people I take snapshots so every time I'm in the best situation like you know I study it and that's the only reason I do

have to should I do is I'm studying this shit because I know that I never thought I was going to be writing books and trying to help people get better but I'm I was always trying to do it because I knew I sucked and so when you know you're trying to get somewhere you know you suck you know that you

you believe that you're born loser you are taking snapshots man like you know you you see something on your phone like oh man I'm gonna take a fucking snapshot of that or I'll redo the little picture shit so you can save it on your phone I do that in my mind so when I get in these moments I'm like

fucking okay wow that's some fucking good knowledge right there man I snapshot it because I know that I can use that later I can I can I can use it because I'm not out there just I'm not most people they go out and they run and they go out and they do and they're like oh this is beautiful look

at the fucking mountains and the shit and all this bullshit no I don't like it my body hurts I'm hurting how do we get through this and it's a fucking it's a it's it's a lab it's my mental lab and so when I come home I'm not forgetting it and the second I every day I get done running or

every day I get to work and every day I get to study whenever it is that brings me to that place of knowledge I come home and in that book was mostly written on scratch piece of paper hand so I come on from from running and I write everything out I write everything out all those things

and as I'm running I'm talking about it so all these things that pop my head as I continue to run I'm going through it I'm I'm starting to layer it down I'm starting to break it down until okay that's happened okay now it's not let's layer this because that's just not how it happened it just

didn't happen that way but led up to this and so it becomes me by myself in school I'm literally going to school right now and I'm learning so when I come home I write it out and then I'm able to write out and I'm able to think about it's okay oh this is good shit this is this will help

me later on and then it becomes what it is now and when you try to convey it to people what what do you when when you're writing it out and when you're talking about it what what are you thinking are you thinking that this is going to get into someone's mind and this is going to help them

motivate themselves are you just trying to express yourself and let them do with it what they can I'm them you're them I'm them and the fucked up thing about me why I'm able to do it the way I'm able to do it I'm not above them I was never above them a lot of people write where they are

hmm they write where they are oh yeah like fucking you right now writing you have a good life man you have a fucking good life I don't write from that place I write from the place that I am the the the the the place that created who I am I go back to that place I caught going back to scratch

I can't write about David Goggins now David Goggins now is a success people want to get to be to feel whatever success is for them they want to feel that so I can't write it here at David Goggins successful I'm much right at David Goggins fucking man I'm a fucking I don't feel good about myself

and everything I go through that journey so that's where it comes from it comes from scratch all that shit all my knowledge comes from going back to where the real growth growth doesn't happen when you make it so far in life you make it so high up the whatever it is

whatever you're trying to be there's no more growth there's small growth but you remember back when you fucking try to become Joe Rogan you are now how much growth was in that tons of growth learning lessons learned so I go I always reveal that that's why I'm a fucking well in a firefighter

now what what what what what I'm a fucking smoke jumper I don't need to do that shit at all but I don't learn anything from where I'm at now there's no knowledge up here the knowledge is down there in the fucking muck so that's where I write that's where I go back that's where I learn

I always go back to school always go back to the basics I always go back to first grade and how much of that is tied to doing things physically though there's like there's a there's a certain kind of physical struggle that you go through particularly with what you excel at which

is endurance athlete work when when there's a mental and physical thing that happens when the two of them are together that doesn't happen anything else like you can do hard work hard mental work and it's very difficult and I'm sure you can learn a lot from that right but it

doesn't have the physical pain that comes with the suck of endurance work yes there's nothing nothing in the world that you're able I'm able to get let's say I that more up to 40 I was in 62 hours fucking sucked it's just with blown out knees blown out knees literally like that oh a few

days before the race I'm getting drained before the race so that's in your fucking mind man like it ain't like oh I show up to start like oh this is fucking great I'm gonna fucking have a good time out here no I'm thinking I just have my fucking knees drained like I'm in pain at mile zero

and that's in your brain I have 240 miles of fucking head to me and there's nothing in life nothing in life this is why I love endurance for so much I love it and I hate it to love hate relationship 62 hours I create that to fucking seven years of life you can't get that man so what I know

that ultra does for me is it packs in it packs in I can't I can't live several lifetimes I can't because the knowledge I need to gain for this life I live in today I need two or three or four lifetimes to be where I want to go ultra gives it to me in fucking high definition real fast

62 hours you go out there fucking suffer you come back oh that was 62 hours I gained seven fucking years of knowledge the ups and downs the pain the suffering the the you you learn how to chunk the shit down like oh my god I'm at mile 100 how the fucking I could get to mile 118

everything becomes you you start to learn life out there and you learn so much and such a condensed period of time and nothing in the world can do it like pushing yourself to the absolute limit I I I caught like so people have talent people have a lot of talent and this is going beyond your

talent so when talent when there's no more talent what happens to you most people quit people only go to their talent level it wants your talent level is gone it becomes a mental game that the whole mental game sets in then and most people can only perform to their talent and

they realize man why am I always messing up right here hmm why why why is this like my big my big hurdle is because you're performing to your talent and then after that your mind has nothing for you hmm nothing for you I see I see fighters I see runners I see people who they're great but they

get to the edge of their talent it's like fuck man what what's up because you're now at the point now when you're telling it could do shit for you my friend now it's the mental game and that's where people get lost in life get lost in that next level and that next level is found

for me in the things that I do let's me misunderstood that's a giant problem with fighters yep there's many fighters the talent probably lead level in the gym but when they get tired yep when they get pushed and when they get into that there's a when the world starts narrowing and the wall start

closing in and they can't see peripherally anymore yep and they're exhausted and they start making mistakes so all their understanding of what to do next gets clouded because they're thinking about quitting they're thinking about being exhausted when am I going to get a break yep how much do I

have left in the tank can I even push forward here or will that gas out and risk getting stopped and that is exactly what you said goes on as a human mind yeah when talent when you have a talent problem yeah it's exactly it goes on your mind so how are you going to fucking defeat that bro

you're sitting there getting beat to fuck down by a motherfucker this on you fucking just throwing you down take down take down take down hitting the face hitting the face and all it's going through your mind is which you just fucking said there's no positivity in that but when you train

the mind the way I train mine fucking ready man fucking ready because first of all I had much talent so I had to train one fucking thing you better train your fucking mind because my talent's gonna run out way early when shit got hard for me back in the day bro I'm done I'm out see you okay I got

to invent a motherfucker that can so I'm vignette goggins I'm vignette motherfucker that that realized we're not good enough but goggins realizes we're mentally strong as fuck and we're gonna out strength these motherfuckers in the mind there's a big understanding and fighting that sometimes talent

is a curse because some people are very talented and they just don't work as hard you know uh could be even her mcgamett off talks about that right and he's one of the greatest mixed martial arts fighters of all time for sure one of the rare guys to retire undefeated but he's like

talented guys don't work hard enough no it's like talented guys the problem with talented guys is they can get by early they're they're like faster than people maybe they just have a better understanding or better coordination some people just you know we're not even like people are not

even in their abilities when it comes to sports some people are just very gifted yes but gifted fighters in particular they just there's something about it where a lot of them never realize their full potential no because they don't develop that mental game that you're talking they don't

have to know they could piece people up on the outside they win fights easy they stop a bunch of people in the first round they look like a hero but then when someone comes along they can survive that first round and then start dragging them into hell that's right oh and that's what you

said you drag them up fucking the hell who's a fucking who's a demon no you're in long for long racing and they're hard people with a talent problem who are so talented the hard to train the hard to push if if if you're their coach and you're trying to get them to see that we got to

get you past this talent problem we got we got to get you the point where you're into that mental zone because we got to get you way past your talent and it's hard for coaches to take these these fighters or whoever past your talent and on the other side of that is where they gain true

true true levels the levels beyond talent that's that's where it really is because if you're able to take a motherfucker down to deep end well my friends just put his toe in feeling the water and shit if my friends in the deep and he had to take you down there and he's mentally strong it's over

it's over man they could because they because they live in the deep end they live in it man they thrive in it you it's almost like you have to have the ability to go to the deep end no matter whether not you'll ever go there right yes and some people are like well I'm never going to go to the deep

end but you should be able to yes 100% you have to be trained to do it you have to be trained for it for that time comes you're like okay I'm deep in qualified yeah I am deep in fucking qualified I got my fucking deep in certification but you know what's interesting about this book

is you talk about how there was moments even though you're clearly deep in qualified clearly deep and certified sir you took some time and you hadn't been a deep in for a while you learn kind of a part-time savage now that's right this is kind of bullshit and you're recognizing it

in yourself even though you know your ability you know your history you know what you've been capable doing in the past you're like but I haven't been there nope I've been there in a while and you had to go back it was funny about that part-time savage thing in their man where I fucking totally

dog my suck is the truth all this became nice making up mother fuckers bacon and eggs mother fucking fuck protein shake early morning shit and I stopped having those hard conversations with myself boy my whole life that's what my first hate my ass boy cuz I'm hard on me and if I'm hard

on me I don't get fuck about you I don't get fuck about what you think I'm gonna think about me nothing else hard on myself bro every morning I woke up alright mother fucker I caught my morning meeting my morning meeting we all have these fucking meetings all fucking day long you know we go to

work we're working for somebody else they want to meet because they want to be successful so we all sit our ass down try make them better try make them more money try make them more powerful we don't do that for ourselves every morning I wake up I used to I had to get back into it again

because in that chapter you see I get a little pitch that morning meeting I wake up okay gogins what did you do fucked up yesterday where were you at and I was going through to analyze my life and then I went through period of time there man why I stopped having those conversations

you know how you let's say you knew why I've go out let's say I don't know let's make up a store here you know why I've go out and you see your cousin and your cousin's fat as fuck I don't know I know they are not hopefully not if they are apologize maybe so they go out and you

see your cousin she's fat as fuck he's fat as fuck whoever and you guys get back in the car and you guys man you see him on the fucking Mary Joe how fat she was that's what we do we go back in the horror conversation that you should be having a Mary Joe hey Mary Joe you fucking

gains and weight hunts sister fucking kind of big that's why I do to myself a lot of people that we see all day long we see them you don't have the horror conversation we we walk around I whether you fucking hate me and get better then like me and stay the same and that's how I feel

about David Goggins motherfucker I'm whether me hate I hate you David man hate you David but I get better from it I get better from it and that's why when people see me and I know you you're you're in my little foxhole if you're in my foxhole and you become a piece of shit hey come here brother

let me talk to you brother people don't like that shit man but I'm not gonna allow you to go to a place that's gonna be hard to get out of it's gonna be hard if I allow you gain five more pounds or like you take four more days off of school or like to keep on procrastinating your

fucking life and I see it and I tell Jennifer behind your back I'm doing you know fucking justice zero justice so where this world is now you can't say a motherfucking thing I do I still do and I always will don't like me don't like me I'm good with that that's exactly what's going on

with like fat models that's it I'm proud like you're beautiful no matter what but that's not true and the thing about it is I have no problem if you want to be fat I have no problem with anybody if you want to be whatever the fuck you want to be but make sure you fucking if you're fat my

fuck go go be fat go be real fucking fat but let's be real nobody wants to be nobody does that's why I said it man nobody does it's not true they will pretend I'm fine with it but if I could give you a button that you could push and point be skinny all the sudden you'd have this incredible

body yeah take everybody would push that button but what happens is never getting this world where it gets hard yeah and so the harder it is the more you start to push back and the more you push back and then it's not right for people to talk about not right for like let's say you are fat I was fat

so I talk about it go ahead and say something motherfucker I was fat too and it was hard as fuck every fucking day to get up I know what it feels like when you roll your fat ass out of bed all you want is some fucking damn cinnamon buns and shit and fucking chuck and chuck and milkshake

I know what it is no it's not gonna be but I can't want it more than you and so many people just want it the easy way it I'm sorry man it's not so what they start to do is they build this narrative it's okay when the narrative should be you need to fucking work harder you need to fucking

discipline your mind better we need to help people more than just saying it's okay it's okay that you're not fucking willing to fucking help yourself out that's not okay it's not okay it's not acceptable even though it's your life if that's if that's acceptable that's unacceptable

and there's a lot of people in this world mean included that if I accepted that I wouldn't be anywhere so yeah a lot of people just fucking they start treating a narrative about themselves that make it okay the ultimate gaya gel free card and now the world is set up to have so many gaya

gel free cards everything is okay and you can't say a motherfucking thing about it this is what it's interesting though is that when you're talking about how you had to come to this realization that you'd become a part-time savage yeah this wasn't recently yeah that's uh you're looking at

2000 oh it's not 2018 yeah yeah 2018 no fuck no yeah so even though you've been through all those things and you have all this information your head it's like there's no rest you never get a chance and if you do take a little time and start enjoying it all of a sudden that general in the

back of your head is like hey hey look what you're doing exactly you're being a little bitch and so in your mind you had gotten soft oh 100% and my softness was still two days so if you look in there two of days was you being soft my part-time savage was me running like 50 miles a week

me fucking not you know because what I used to do in my due now is I got to a point I'd be running and I was like okay man we could do 10 miles today I get I get to 10 miles back oh no motherfucker that fucking demon that I let out every fucking morning that walks the street tonight

he comes in a bitch not today man there's somebody out there that you don't know have never fucking met in your entire life that is doing 12 13 14 you're gonna do another one and when you meet him you ain't gonna be fucking ready so Gaggen's kept on running so you talk about that and

you talk about how cam came to visit you in Vegas and give you a spot check oh yeah oh yeah I'm always ready for a muffler like cam I'm always ready for a black cam so out of nowhere dude this guy calls me literally and this is one thing about life this is why you always must be ready always be

ready never get ready people go hey what are you training for David I ain't training for shit when something pops up I'll be fucking ready so when cam pop the fuck up and cam calls hey man I'm gonna be in a Las Vegas you gonna go for a run sure do sure dude brother sure do by the run sucked

I was ready well you guys were doing like six minute miles for like 26 miles it was brother it was 20 miles and Jennifer was with us and so Jennifer can run her fucking ass off she's fast shit so we went out but she's not a six minute mile runner so we went out for the first

10 and Jennifer was with us she was with us for the first seven she turned around I think she's like 15 miles so me and cam went out after we left Jennifer she went back for another three to go out and get 10 and come back 10 but my whole idea was I know the course bitch I'm about to drop

your fucking ass motherfucker so we go out because because going out is a little bit um as old question it was a little bit uphill no a little bit downhill a little bit downhill so a little bit downhill so we turn on a 10 mile more come back and I could tell cam was hurting

boy but cam is a prideful motherfucker dude prideful motherfucker love that dude so we get to about mile 16 17 and I could tell now he kind of comes off my shoulder slightly and I'm like oh chink in the armor I feel it you know you guys can look at you know I you know out of your

peripheral vision but I'm like this is a prideful motherfucker man and we keep on going man holding sixes we get to about my 18th look cam's right back on the shoulder not as mild and I said you are exactly who the fuck I thought you were a motherfucker and so we went out test

the other man good day went to the gym worked out hard we got some same day saying oh we fucking worked it out dude whenever we hear me together you can guarantee it's gonna be two people that love each other but I'm waiting for the other motherfucker to break 100% dude it's like this

thing in the back of your head okay maybe this a break them maybe this a break them so we haven't broken each other yet but I'm sure the day will come so you run 20 miles yep and then you lift weights but see lift and weights people like people don't get it man it's not like lifting weights

it's like you know we go and do like so many reps like people go oh you're only doing um it was like 90 some pounds on the incline motherfucker do five sets of 25 with a superset of pushup superset of curls superset of pull-ups superset of triceps superset of what the fuck else was

I forgive us it's a superset man so we're going through lifting lightweight but for massive massive amounts of reps and so you're like totally swollen and like it's just the some of some of the best workouts in the world we treat mean him some of the best workouts in the world man and then you

had steak and then we have steak that's right and then I treat can to a steak right and that's a mental aid mental oh yes mental a stays baby I think one of the most important parts about the way you express yourself in your books is that you do talk about your weaknesses and you do talk

about your past and how you started off on this journey and you talk about how there are those moments that you doubt and you but you still go oh yeah sometimes like you know I call you got called audible you know the line of screamers man like some of the great quarterbacks they'll be at

the line of screamers and they'll look at the defense the defenses of fuck defense is shifting the decolon audible in my mind a lot of times man like that doesn't mean I quit I don't quit you know I may not make it the first time but I'll come back I got a carn audible I got a fucking

I got a fucking get my head back in the game I got a I got to figure this shit out it doesn't mean you leave it means you study it more it means you study it more in and whenever I feel that something people I say man how do you handle failure man I feel a lot dude I feel all the

fucking time they go how do you handle it when I'm trying to do and this isn't being arrogant man I it's being real not many people are trying to do so there's not many people that who can even open their fucking mouth and criticize me when I do fail because I'm on I'm I'm trying to do

shit man that many people aren't trying to do but I don't look at failure it's failure I look at failure as your first second third fourth fifth attempt I look at them as attempts I don't look at anything as failure because when you're going to try to do some not trying as failure

that's that's and that's not some after school special shit but when you're able to go out there there's there's no failure it's attempts because when you're trying to do something that's bigger than you whatever you are whoever you are if if if you're paralyzed you're trying to walk one step

and you didn't you didn't fail motherfucker that's your first attempt if that's your biggest thing that's how your mind said needs to go into everything so I don't look at it as failure is a big word like that gets people down and shit we give so much power to words I don't I take the power right

away I didn't feel shit do you ever have conversations with cam about mindset we know we we really don't go there too much at all about mindset like whenever we get together it's really about breaking the motherfuckers down like it's like it's like it's like but wouldn't you be interested

though and how he approach because I don't know if everybody shares your approach I know there's not very many people like you right cam is one of them right so like how many of them are like you and how many of them have that sort of similar approach and how many of them are willing to discuss

their own demons because a lot of people that are like super endurance athletes are very hard people they don't ever want to even discuss the weakness they don't want to shine any light on it no people hate that yeah people hate it man and I love it and it really people hate it to me this is just my

own theory is because you haven't beat it that's why people go man why are you so open of vulnerable I tell you everything I lied about everything I fucked up with everything I'll tell you everything I'm an open fucking book I don't give a fuck the only reason why I don't give a fuck anymore is because I overcame it and I beat it so now I'm gonna talk about it right most people aren't going to go to that darkness and that vulnerability is because they're still dealing with it when people who

have overcome it they're open fucking book bro because they're proud they're fucking proud that's why I speak man man why are you always yelling I just fuck you it's like I talk bitch because I'm proud mother you know what I'm saying I'm a proud mother fucker man yeah it's not proud like

look at me it's like motherfucker I know where I fucking came from bitch I shouldn't be here right now talking to you should be talking to you motherfucker I shouldn't be here you see a fat sloppy motherfucker I'm proud so I'm able to tell you I was fucked up many people can because you know that's a common thing that people say when I interview them after fights like I'm not supposed to be here it's not supposed to happen to me all right there's a common thing when I've had conversations with

people and they you know they've won a big fight they've had this big event right they say I wasn't supposed to be here right statistically like Chris Gutierrez just said that last year of C fight when I interviewed him so like I'm not supposed to be here right probably because they come from a bad

place exactly you know they and when you're in the back especially when you're young you know redeveloped self-esteem you know by the age of seven if you're if if you're not good by the age of seven or eight years old you have a good chance of being fucked your rest of your life yeah so

if your parents or or you came up wrong and then seven or eight if you don't have the self-esteem but you fucking grind like I want to be better when you get to that you have to see championship or you get to where where I got or where I am it's almost like you can't believe the journey like I

talk about in that fucking VFW and I'm in the first chapter that book man I'm sitting in that audience all those fucking people and I'm about to get the you know Americanism award and I was grinding so hard and never took time to reflect on my life and this was like time to reflect

and I was all kind of fucked up and I got on stage man just fucking cried for like 59 seconds and it was such an emotional moment for me that I fucking that I fucking did what I did and I now overcame and it was it was it was a loan man you know how do we have fucking like teammates and

fucking like you know family push my my mom was struggling bro see what's true so it was like me my mom and so it was a lot of this me so when you're waking up every morning by yourself and you're fucking getting after by yourself and and it's the it's the hidden work people see one minute

you know video me running and shit and like and like these fighters you know they they seem during the fighter after the fight they don't see them all fucking with they deal with every fucking day I'm not good enough I'm not good enough I shouldn't be here I shouldn't be here because every day they're even though they're fucking the best in the world that little motherfucker seven or eight years old it's still in there saying oh man we don't we don't have some people maybe not good enough

enough we shouldn't be here so you always fighting that motherfucker even though you beat it you never truly beat it so when they get on stage and then talking to Joe Rogan it's a it's not even real it's not even real all those mornings that you don't want to fucking get up and and I look at it as

like a fucking like a rock and you find this fucking rock and that rock is you and every day you fucking fight not wanting to get up and you do anyway you chip another piece off that fucking rock and every day you fucking eat the right foods and every day you go to train you train hard and

hard and harder and harder and you get up early and all these things you do to start forming yourself you're chipping another fucking piece of that rock I mean before you know it he has this beautiful fucking piece of artwork that that you built but people don't and then once

you get there you see it it becomes real like oh my god fucking did this shit and so like the fucking journey becomes so real then but so many people aren't willing to fucking chip away at that stone that is them to start chipping off those fucking rough edges that's the fear the fear

is never reaching your potential that's it that always fall in short always quitting before you're done always procrastinating always not doing the right thing and then one day you're an old man yep and you look back and go god I could have been great yep I could have been great I never

forget one time I was running by a graveyard when I was fucking just trying to become I was fat and I ran by a graveyard and I looked out there and I have all these epiphany's man I have all these fucking moments of like of this crazy man of of this thought come always by myself and

always deep fucking thought about how to be better and look out there I'm like man wonder how many you motherfuckers in there fucking just are so upset with how you lived your life and fucking just regret how you lived it now I'm running at 300 pound man taking man

don't fucking die like this bro don't die like this so people wonder where this shit comes from from for me it comes from such deep thought of trying to see what this is all about what is this life all about what am I all about why am I here you know I had to I had to find purpose and

my suffering it had a purpose it had a fucking purpose do you talk to other people that are like you and try to understand if they're going through the same thing or they're trying to gather knowledge as well are they just doing it because they're addicted to runners high are they doing it because

they enjoy the challenge like how many people do you talk to that are like you I've never talked to anyone that it most be going believe when I say heptime that I do it to fucking gain knowledge and all this shit I haven't met one that goes out there people really enjoy

a lot of shit that they do like like they I don't know many people can go out and run 240 miles at one time if you don't enjoy it if if you just don't really enjoy it so you know I I had many people build confidence in different ways and they build belief in different ways coming

from where I came from I didn't have any belief in myself so some people can go read a book and get believe some people can go take a yoga class have good parents I had to put myself so where I came from was so far down underneath like soil that I had to

build belief by truly ingrained in it in my brain so the things I do I'm always every day building belief in my belief had to be where it is because I was so far down so it may take a 200 mile run from me it may take a hundred mile run it may take late nights in the gym but without

belief you have nothing and I realized that I was young kid I have no belief I have to build it and a five mile run didn't do it I had to push myself to such extremes because I came some people judge me by not knowing where I came from so unless you're me and you came from where I

came from I guarantee you when it made out guarantee it and I knew that so my belief comes from going I have to build it and that's how I build it man I build it by the things I do it's so painful reading about your childhood and the experiences with your father and then when you went back

and met your father as an adult and got with them and watched him get drunk and then watch him get belligerent and experience it all over again and then think about what happened to him to make him who he is yeah that fucked me up dude but I had to go like I realized I was fucked I was

I was just sorry motherfucker you know I quit pair rescue I was free of the water every time shit got hard like I said I didn't have talent you know I fucking to have shit whenever shit got hard for me I thought I was on my way out and I got stuck back in I become I become a loser again

real quick and I see him all the time a lot of fucking losers out here that won't face it like I don't man got to go back and visit this motherfucker I haven't seen my dad in fucking years man years by a new where I came from I knew where my mindset came from I knew where my demons were

so my whole idea when I went back to see my dad was I was hoping that I could just fucking call myself a loser that is because of you dad so I was hoping to go back and get the confirmation that I always wanted that wasn't my fault that voice in my head was so loud it's not

your fault David not your fault you can't read and write not your fault that people call you fucking niggas not your fault it's not your fault this not your fault that's not your fault that's your fault that's your that that you quit shit it's not your fault so I was like okay man I'm

go back visit motherfucker sucking this squash shit and I can score or be a fucking loser because you fucked me up and I got there I went drove the buffalo so my dad same routine as it was not as eight years old man walked in was up went to skate land I sat in that fucking cast that you

would cheat on my mom with I sat in that cast in the corner and I was like God what the fuck man is a whole normal day and the more I was around him started now he started getting drunk and and I won't go through the whole thing but I started seeing man I started having a conference I always

had these conversations myself like man some other fucker he came from hell his dad would put him in front of a furnace and like if he moved he get burnt so when when my dad got beat um his dad would put him in front of a furnace and if he would have moved he fucking get burned

up so my dad sat and sit there and take it so he never dealt with his fucking demons so his demons became mine his demons became mine my motherfuckers think you die and and the demon goes with you man don't be a fucking fool bro you know like that's why I'm proud of myself I took his demons and mine

and people are looking for some great fucking apology you know oh my god like I'm you know the my dad needs to say sorry people who fucking called you out your name or nobody gonna come back and say sorry to your mother fucker and nobody saying shit to you you've been a fucking man to

fuck up so I looked at him he didn't face his demons gonna face mine so that drive back home that's what I started doing you know what's one of the most most fucked up things that I've learned over time is that almost all like truly exceptional and mentally strong people have been through hell

it's it's very few that put themselves through hell when life is great just not usually the case right and to to achieve the the standards that you've achieved to achieve that become the person that you are today and have the influence that you have this global influence on people

do you many people have laced up their shoes because they heard your voice how many people just moved into action and changed their life because they've heard you talk or seen you talk it's there's a thing that happened and it happened that a hell and I don't think it ever happens

without that it's like you had to go through that in order to empower all these other people in order to become who you are and that as an example and then your words as an example and you're describing of it and then your description of your own shortcomings and failures that give people

confidence that you it's not like you're this superhuman person that is like a character in a book right now you're a real human being who has real insecurities and real failures in your past and and real demons and you figured out a way to harness that energy and just keep going forward

yep and not quit that's it that's right I mean there there are no time outs you know people like I you know there's a part in the book that I talk about a prisoner mind and that's my mother and you know she just um that's I would never listen to that part again that book

that was hard just so you know man like I will never again listen to that shit your mother's very very very brave oh to be able to talk to to be able to to be able to to be able to talk like that um to the world and to to just she lost her life she lost this giant chunk of her life with

this abusive man and to hear her talking about him hitting her and what it was like in the fact that she never came from a family that hit her she had never been hit before never and to to have her express it the way she did so honestly and openly

it's very powerful in the whole time she's talking man she's on the cusp of like losing it like I'm in the other room so I'm I'm an interviewer and I'm hearing this shit so I I knew a lot about it obviously I lived it and that's what fucked me up the most man when you see like I said

I wouldn't a smart kid growing up but would would ever made me would ever have made me I'm so fucking my mind is sharp man like it's it's crazy like I could I was so aware of so much shit I was so bright in that way and to see your mom go through that shit as that

young kid and like I was going through it and she was going through right beside me like when I got my ass beat she got her ass beat it was it's fucked up man like you you just can't you know people you know people like to judge who you are man why are you cussing my my life wasn't fucking pg

motherfucker like you know you can't just turn who the fuck you are off when you see your mom going with that kind of shit and then I'm coming to her defense at seven or eight years old and she's getting her fucking ass beat by a two hundred twenty pound man I'm fucking some little kid

no kind of courage it takes to muster that up to go help her out and see her fucked up like that and the time she would cry and be bruised up and shit it was just it was a it was a fucking nightmare and then hear her talk about it like the part where my dad says I brought this bill from Texas

this bill came all the way from Texas with your ass with and I was like what the like where are my hat right now because I knew no other households right we're fucking living like this man I and I knew it and I knew it and then she was shut off she was shut off from the world and

when I wrote can hurt me she refused she said fuck don't put my shit in there she was so embarrassed you know like like I put in there man she fucking married a fucking prisoner so my mom was so fucked up she was so fucked up by the shit and people go if you go man your mom was boy mother fuck I

know mom was boy man see your mom go through this shit you can make sure she's taken care of so she came out and one of the people that you know she she got married a few times because she was looking for something that my dad's trip from her and she was out she was gone for years she's

not coming back she's 70 she's 75 and but in that book I talk about man she's like don't don't put that you know and can't hurt me but now she's getting better and she's allowing me more to talk more about my life which was also some of her life the part about marrying a prisoner

so crazy dude it was a fucking but not just a prisoner but a prisoner who killed a woman dude this so it was so fucked up it's hard for me to talk about because it's almost like I was I had a front row seat at a horse show so when my mom left my dad she went to woman and he got murdered

I talked about that can't hurt me he got murdered so that took her all the way over the days I mean he got shot fucking six times and the last shot this motherfucker got right up on his head and made sure he was dead like forehead shot and so she didn't cry he cried she's lost it

was over she a whole other person became and so I'm fucking now like 12 13 14 what the fuck I was I'm watching this woman every day front row seat just watching her just going through life fucked up and then I'm about to go in the military into the Air Force in like two years out man

you know I'm like a sophomore in high school phone drinking every night she tell me don't get on the phone don't get on the phone don't get on the phone 15 minute calls hang up 15 minute call hang up 15 minute call hang up what the fuck is going on but see the way I was growing it like the way

I was raised you don't ask your mom was going on and like now like conversation shit with the parents you shut the fuck up and that's I didn't ask shit but I knew something was fucked because like three four hours a night 15 minute hang up because he was in prison this guy was in prison

so he only had 15 minutes on the phone he had to put more money in it how did she meet him she started working so she was always about helping people out but the thing about it was like I was right in front of her and needed so much fucking help

and I was fucked up for me for a long time but she helped out so many people but I guess since I was with her to the journey I just I didn't count but it's all good man it's like it's what it's what lots about you gotta understand what your mom went through so I can be good with it you know

like I saw that so I had to man up a lot more than with so she saw people need to help so she started teaching in the prison so she had a full-time job at the Paul University in Green Castle in the end and then she started teaching in a prison and she met this prisoner

this prisoner obviously I don't know Slitter or Noader some bullshit like that and you know she was looking for anything she was looking for anybody that loved her because my dad beat the fucking life out of her and and my dad so my dad wouldn't marry my mom but end up marrying a woman

um that was tied to like I'm not even gonna go there I'm not trying to get fucking sued and shit right now man but he he married somebody that was fucked up it's fucked up so anyway she she met him in prison and the phone was ringing every night she tell me about it

because I could tell you son hey David I'm I'm I'm in love with the prisoner so before I go murdered a woman oh no I'm about to get to that brother so I'm fucking now about a week out or whatever the fucking was from leaving for boot camp and she let's me know what's up

and so I'm about to leave for boot camp now I'm so protective of my mom and she lays this on me yeah um she sit down let me let's have a talk and she never does this shit man she's like there was nothing ever hidden from me that's why I grew up so fast like that abusive life in which

she was going through it was front and center her being broke everything this was the only secret she kept from me she was um those phone calls you know I've been uh seeing someone in prison all right cool whatever I'm thinking what the fuck is this man so you know I hate I didn't want to ask how the fuck do you get to prison so I'm sitting there I'm sitting there and I'm like okay man I gotta fucking ask this fucking question how the fuck you know what what happened you know she's like well

pfft does one of those things you know because she knows this fucking bad well he was in the drugs and stuff like that I'm thinking okay maybe drug dealer something like that he was in the drugs that's for sure but he literally I don't know how I went down but he choked a woman to death

over some drugs and I don't know the ins and outs to all this other shit and um that's who she was gonna fucking be with and he was getting out of prison literally in a few weeks after I was going to Air Force boot camp so I'm in fucking Air Force boot camp thinking about my mom's about to

fucking marry a fucking dude who got sent to prison Mariam right away right away so the first time I meet this motherfucker dude is at my fucking Air Force graduation my fucking Air Force graduation and she was like you ain't putting that shit in can't hurt me she was embarrassed about it and then

she saw how I went totally like fucking vulnerable and she was like fuck it go ahead so this it's so much more to it but he ended up um I think it was last year or maybe this year he OD'd so my mom divorced him obviously after it didn't work out and she would tell me a story one time we were

talking about this book she started opening more up about the relationship with this uh with this prisoner and she said one night they got into a fight you know not not physical no I he never hit her like like my dad did so many times but he said one night she was sleeping and had had her back to

him and all she thought about all fucking night was because she started slowly realizing like I'm fucked up like I just murdered a fucking guy from prison that killed somebody and she started realizing more and more but she's laying in bed and she was like is this motherfucker gonna fucking kill

me tonight and she started telling me these fucking stories man and I'm like and I'm just like what the fuck man like like you know it's this it was tough it was it was a tough way to grow up man it was a tough way to grow up so yeah he ended up um so they got divorced I think it worked maybe two

years where the fuck it was whatever that matter and then um I think he OD'd last year he OD last year kill himself I'll leave he I'm the cute himself he's OD'd so the idea of you going off to boot camp knowing that your mom's gonna be alone with this guy getting out of prison yeah

that shit must have been haunting it fucked me up every night oh my god every night I'm sitting in the fucking in my bunk thinking and then I I knew the date he was getting out of prison and like you know you can't just get on the phone and call hey mom was going on you know no you're in boot camp

you get like every now and then they say you have like a phone call once a week or some shit I think every Sunday was a phone call and I never forget when he got to the house man I actually got I was fucking not right so I got recycled so a week in boot camp so like I fucking I don't

know why I fucking did something in boot camp I fucking got recycled I was sneaking the Snickers bars I was just all kind of belligerent and shit I was just out of it I was I was sneaking out in this fucking I was just fucking not right I was wasn't right and so then I um yeah

this this fucked up this fucked up wasn't like when you met him I tried to be supportive because that's why I always did my mom would ever make her happy I tried to that was my fucking number one priority was I I never cared about myself never never ever which makes what I do now for people

yeah I understand because I care about people even though I'm an introvert I'm an intro can my fucking life sucked but what I do for people I really do that's why I want to make sure that fucking like that that fucking book and things I do that's why I don't fucking like why don't you

sell shit why don't you always you know why why don't you like promoting this and that and no man no I care that you understand that I fucking want to see you fucking kill shit I want to see you better so you know when I met him I was supportive and I was and I sat back and looked at him

and I wanted to fucking beat this motherfucker down so bad because I knew like you're not a good egg bro you're not a good egg man I'm not saying yeah I mean you know I'm not saying prisoners are bad they can be rehabilitated but I always had these feelings about people if I get around you I

can fucking I mean I tell you but when you grow up the way I grow up man you have this you have these ways of knowing pieces of shit I became an expert in pieces of shit I used to be one my dad was one so you can fucking pick him out you can pick out liars and all kind of carn artists from

a mile away because motherfucker I studied it study myself I know who you are so you can't come around me bullshit me man can't so it was horrible it was horrible so you know like the one woman I cared about more than anything in the world because I saw her hell I'm looking at this shit now

and now I'm have to go to fucking pair rescue school and all this other shit watch she's fucking with this guy so there are a lot of things in my mind that that just made it hard that I studied I studied my mind during these times I started this this process to become who him today

of learning life and how hard life is that's why I don't speak about the good time everybody gets so man why speak about the good times I don't need to help you through those brother I do not need to help you don't turn on David Goggins for the good times you turn on David Goggins when you

don't feel like doing shit you're an expert in dark matter dark mother fucking matter that's what I am so yeah I know it really well so it wasn't like I wished for it one of the things that's hilarious in the book is that you you read all the shit that people write to you all the hate you recorded

and then you play back brother I'm gonna tell you right now man that started honestly when this fucking seal from still team six came out and started a line is fucking to ask off about me this is an important subject we should talk about this because your military career and the what you've

done is always misrepresented or yeah even by people that should know better oh yeah oh they know better but what what makes people feel good like when when you become successful when you become successful and I had to realize this and this guy made me realize this I had to study them

when you become successful especially within a fraternity like that like this is this is a fraternity bro this isn't like a fucking like oh like in the Air Force you know it was this is a very different world so several seals not I'm gonna say that there's a lot that would like to see

me fucking a lot they like see a lot of people not do well and then do great yeah and like to they all know we eat our own we eat our own and that's what they all say we eat our own is that all seals I don't know all seals I can't speak there I know a few seals is it just a hyper competitive nature

it's that people to get involved yeah it's like you know we have this this this this this this macho stigma that you know like you know we're we're the best of the best the fucking we're the best motherfuckers in the world and and I beg to differ you know like people go like I've had so

many people in art like the news oh my god they contact me all they want me so back because there's been some things that came up you know navy so community um this this guy died this this kid going through training died and some navy seals I don't know the stories they can google

it where the fuck I guess they killed somebody over in Iraq who has some information some shit so they always want to get me on so I can fuck it because because they know that I was not a fan of a lot of navy seals and a lot of it is to do with the lies the fucking some of the leadership problems

some of the character issues and I got to see that a lot when I got out and I'm the one to say I had a lot of problems myself when I was growing up and took a long time to go so I'm not judging these people I know where the shit comes from man the shit comes from shit you haven't handled so

I it doesn't bother me anymore but when I came out um in 2018 this this seal from seal team six he had in jinnifer it pissed jinnifer off so fucking bad and I was cool about it but this guy started YouTube channels saying that I was dishonorably discharged I fucking was kicked out of the seal teams

I um I refused to fight in combat I never went to combat I mean every bit of it so the reason why in my in can't hurt me I have my write up of my metal from Iraq and I wasn't gonna put that in there but jinnifer started getting DMs from people saying do you know I'm not gonna I'm not

gonna name his name I know who I am dude and I just showed you outside about that one cat yeah I'm not gonna name his name either but I'm not gonna name his name because how does he not know better though that's the the that was one of the things that people bring up that you never deployed right

yep but why would they say that why do you think Joe think about it man think about see like this the thing about something that's easily proven exactly but guess what this guy had black ops literally he was he was he had like YouTube channels DM and people because people like at this time

I started getting a little bigger I started getting a little more profile and he was coming out of the seal teams and I'm not gonna say his name because I'm not gonna try to take food out of his mouth and this is one thing I learned from all of this I had that I was so fucking piss man

I was so fucking pissed I didn't deploy I mean the fucking lies were insane how many times did you deploy twice one two grom and one two Iraq and then what they don't talk about those you really wanted to deploy more is I had two heart surgeries so I was out of the fucking teams for deploying

for like three four years because the heart surgeries because when you get a heart surgery you can't go back to the point you were born with like holes right heart with the hole in my heart and the first surgery it didn't you know it didn't take so I didn't get another surgery so that took so

much time having these heart surgery so I was in recruiting at the time so this kept me in recruiting so this even added to the whole bullshit this added to the whole bullshit so they were loving it because right now like I said I wasn't like the most famous seal within the seal teams I didn't take

shit man if she was fucked up I called it I called it there's there's no secret there's no secret shit here man and and and I knew what happened when I when I got out and this guy started doing this shit and I knew why he was doing it because the biggest thing like he wanted to take my character

and destroy it right that's what he wanted to do and so when you're in these kind of communities like this man people like oh no there's no way he was trying to do that man I was like get Jennifer here right now we have all the screenshots and I had to get a fucking lawyer I mean this guy went

so far and then what happened was over a pretty time he fucking literally apologized went away fucking took all this shit down I mean but he came out and but what happened was that rumor mill spread like wildfire did he have to know did he have to be told about your

actual record no he knew it never I deployed with him what I deployed with him in Iraq no in Iraq he was just lying in Iraq I deployed with him and the only fucking see man you go give me to point where I say it's fucking name because that's where the God so I deployed with his ass that's

why I put the fucking right up in there so I got a medal over there in Iraq I got a medal in Iraq so I did go to war and I put it in the book because when because Jennifer started getting all this shit and she goes you got to put that fucking award in there because this motherfucker's this

line is ass off I didn't go to Ranger School all this shit so I put the Ranger School everything he said I put in can't hurt me because he was just literally lying trying to literally ruin who I was because I'm the world's toughest man that isn't sit right with some fucking alpha motherfucker dude

and these motherfuckers do some of them and you don't know unless you've been the fraternity like this unless you've been the fraternity like this you don't fucking know it I don't fucking care about them there's some I have some great friends in there but anyway the reason this guy actually helped

me out so when I came out there's a few guys and that came after me in the still teams trying to make sure that I fucking wasn't going to be who I am and they still talk their bullshit lies lies so many fucking lies dude it was great about is my proof isn't can't hurt me so everything I say

my proof is in and that's why it's designed that way for the liars but this guy came out and what I do is I study them so Jennifer got a lawyer I'm about to sue the fuck out of this fucking guy man like I had all this defamation care I mean it was fucking to thick I was gonna sue the fuck out of them and every night I fucking woke up I was like man I started thinking about myself and I was a piece of shit when I had no character and I had no pride no dignity that's because only people that

do shit like that you know a man right you know fucking man dude like I started thinking about what kind of pussy you are man well how you must have so many fucking demons in your life that you spend this kind of time just trying to take another man it not it'd be different if it was truth behind

it right lies fucking lies yeah just because we didn't get a long motherfucker it don't mean I wasn't who I am we didn't get a long motherfucker I fucking I'm like a lie detector because I'm so fucking honest with myself I have such a hard time in my life that I fucking so forthright when you

get it even near me because I fucking you know my shit is real it's fucking real is fuck it makes you feel bad if you got something going on and you're fucking like I can get open my fucking out you know my shit is fucking real yeah I may not have deployed as many times you motherfucker because

my heart issues and the other issues that I won't talk about because the fucking news wants me to fucking talk about this shit so bad they want to take some stills down so bad I ain't no bitch like that whatever happened to still teams with me happened to still teams I don't fucking mention the

names but I saw these little bitches come out here it was in the fraternity it happened in the fraternity leave it there don't be a fucking bitch come out here fucking spreading lies about me motherfucker but I studied all these little bitches you try to come out and ruin my life study all of

them let man what you must be going through his fucking evil now even took a step further I had to mature myself cuz I was so fucking mad and I looked at his family this guy who was talking this shit I'm gonna say his name so bad but I never will cuz I still fucking bitch move on my part

you could take food out of this fucking his family's mouth you're gonna have this guy in the court house you have him in the courtroom spending money on lawyers yeah fucking just fucking drop this I'm good I said who the fuck I am I said you can make every fucking morning being the best

that you are but I'm not gonna fucking take money out of your pocket money out your mouth or out of your fucking kids kids mouth and this kid this guy wound up apologizing to me he didn't apologize to me what happened was he got on and I don't want to go too deep cuz it will figure it

out but he ended up basically saying he's he had a fucking he just wasn't he wasn't writing his head he was you know he wasn't good and I can tell you wasn't good because he was literally demon people and I was had Jennifer in here man so she can show you the DMs he was demon people

and talking all this shit and then he would delete it and this guy how so so Jennifer found it and so cuz this guy DM Jennifer it was like hey can you do you know this guy and I was like yeah I know him and then Jennifer's like hey we got fucking shut this shit down but he was DM and

several people just saying that I was just on a discharge I was kicked out the seal teams I refused to go to combat he just went on and on and on and so this guy was taking screenshots of what of what this guy was saying and sending them to us and so at this time now we have a lawyer

and so we're getting all this shit dude and then he had a YouTube site set up that he took down just trying to literally ruin who I was and I looked at all this shit and I studied them I was like man you got and what came out later on was he did have some demons he does have some

demons of course he does serious demons that's how insane it is that the guy deployed with you seal team six and these motherfuckers supposed to be bad motherfuckers see this is this is some of the issues I had when I was in is that when you work so hard man I put these motherfuckers I can talk

about last time I was on this fucking shit on a pedestal have the reason I ran on broken legs have the reason why I fucking became who I became was because of the the image these guys had on me I was so impressed with the books and the fucking and the people that they were I was like my god man I gotta be a fucking god I gotta be a god mentally they fucking get in here and once I got in I discovered something different I'm not saying I'm not saying everybody I'm not

I don't know everybody in the still teams but I had a problem with the fact that a lot of people lived this this shit like a lot of the civilians like oh my god the seals are this the seals are that you were able to run bad water 135 because you're a navy seal and because they like no motherfucker

that ain't why and I always knew the shit and I had issues with it man I had issues with it so I had a fucking that issue with a lot of people didn't like that and then I went on to go on recruiting for a little bit and then the heart surgeries happened so the more I was in recruiting

more I was that that should happen they just started slowly building up lies slowly building up lies and I came out to I was I told Jennifer I I knew it I said standby standby it's coming whenever you're a person that gets what other people think is attention that they think they

deserve it's sir that's when things get weird oh yeah that's what they bring those fucking deployments because they think oh my god you didn't deploy as much as me you deploy as much as me he wasn't is he's not known for being for for deploying this shit yeah motherfuckers don't care yeah I have

a combat deployment and I the poor another time that we were supposed to is right during 9-11 we were supposed to go and they fucking has over and gone we're all pissed off then work out that way back I got over there and what's funny about it this this this is what makes me laugh so much there's a lot of Navy suits you never deployed ever combat ever ever and it makes me laugh because motherfuckers want to act like one combat deployment where I fought for my fucking country is bullshit

think about that fought for my fucking country did my shit sorry it worked out the way it worked out and that's that's that's not enough I think it's part of the problem with some of those guys is when guys are seriously alpha and they think they go above and beyond and they push harder

than anybody and then they meet you and you're the guy that's getting up at 3 30 in the morning yelling at them while you're running like I know you're sleeping I know you're still in bed motherfucker I'm out here running 10 miles before you eat breakfast that's half the reason I did it

yeah that's half the reason my first going to fucking heliskos and shit getting waffle breakfast and fucking baking an eggs and shit not bothering me I said motherfucker I got my family and everybody think I'm so fucking stud and you all just got a fucking lifts and weights y'all don't want to

fucking like I said I was in charge of PT and they're like no this ain't buzzed goggins like man you got a lot of motherfuckers food this ain't everybody I don't know every seal I don't every seal but you want to run your fucking mouth about me and talk you little shit I got my secrets too and I

won't say names because I only your bitch does that so keep on running your fucking mouths I know all you motherfuckers so you started taking over PT yeah I was so when I got back so I went on my first deployment and when I came back off my first deployment I begged put seven shits in seven

shits it's like a request to go to Ranger School my fuckers don't request to go to Ranger School I wanted to go to Ranger School as a seal you went through buds with every the fuck you don't want to go to another course to get your ass kicked I did I did so when you're in the school came

back on her man I was the enlisted on her man at Ranger School but they sent him a bad operator they also said I'm a bad operator but guess what they have my black ass when I was fucking in Iraq I was tired it was called PSD okay so you're like a bodyguard my bad operator Joe but guess

where I was I was the lead navigator so I'm the eyes so everything we did was in a car it was my job to make sure that whole fucking platoon was safe okay you're not gonna put a dumb bad operator up there was fucking not good it's my job to make sure I called all the outs

called all the trouble coming had to get us there safe we had a fucking guy who was going for the prime minister's job who we were garden and they had a bad operator what they want to call me it was his little fucking rumors I was the guy who led it and it was so good that this such a good

job that there's two of us because the job's very stressful being a primary navigator stressful so they have a primary in a secondary so some days I would do some days and I never do it I was doing such a good job Joe that they didn't want the other guy to do it so I became the only

guy navigating us do fucking Iraq all right and our guy didn't live in the green zone the green zone the safe place our guy lived in the red zone so we had to go out in the red zone every day get this fucking guy bring it back in no there was no shoot him up because this one one rumor that was

out there that came out from this guy was our froze our frozen a firefight it's kind of funny how you can freeze in a firefight when our platoon was never in one so it's just just bullshit man but I know where it comes from I know where it comes from crabs in a bucket I know where it comes

from my friend it's just crabs in a bucket I said sorry I sorry I became so successful guys that's what it is people don't like it when you did the same thing they did you come from the same fraternity but you get exorbitant amounts of attention and success oh yeah and instead of looking

at that and going wow look what he did that's amazing I wish I did that or maybe I could do more or he's inspiring other people that's great you know what though I will say this there's a there's a lot of them that do say that that's great there's a lot of them that do say this I've

got him hawk you know that the email I sent to you a while ago about this guy who wrote that email about the seal teams and I shared it with you about he's talking about like only 13% of you actually it's like anyway I sent you email yeah I remember so anyway he's a guy that sent that

email hawk he's like my best friend so he a bad motherfucker when he when he got in a seal teams he wrote this email and sent out to like every Navy seal and it was like 87% of you motherfuckers he said 87% of you motherfuckers you know are are living off of one week and when you talk about

what's hell week like that one week in hell week is all they're living off of because they're not living it now and he made these shirts they call the 13% shirts and the other 13% guys actually getting after it I'm gonna fuck a sent me two of them all right he sent me two of them so yeah

they're right I wish I could deploy more and blah blah blah whatever and whatever man but I was a I was a fucking good seal and a fucking good teammate and some guys didn't like me and the fraternity we fucking had it out and there's a time somebody fucking this and shit but it's

what it is man you ever heard when people talk about some union work one of the things that happens when you're in some unions is like if you're working too hard someone will come along go hey David slow the fuck down it's true statement it's true statement you're moving too many packages you're

doing too much of this too too much of that you're setting a standard to high and you're fucking enough for everybody else and so you'll have people that will sabotage someone just because that person wants to work hard I see it but it made me grow it made me grow and I'm glad I didn't put a

case on that guy and I'm glad I got a chance to study him and it is what it is man it is what it is and this is one part that I try to tell people and teach them if you're trying to go to that uncommon amongst the uncommon place it's a lonely motherfucker up there man it's lonely I'm

not saying I'm better than every fucking body am I saying that and once again I'm not speaking for every seal I'm not but I just didn't I didn't try to be what they were what you're just saying is just a fact it's just a fact it's just a fact and there there's people that are willing to go

very far and then there's people that are willing to go far further than that and when a your person who prides yourself on your ability to go very far and then someone is willing to go far farther than you you have to decide do I want to look at that as the new standard do I want

to judge myself do I want to admire him or do I want to try to take him down because I feel bad because I can't do what he does or having done what he does or what he does makes me look bad because I like to think I'm a hard worker right I could think I'm disciplined and hard and then

I see this fucking dude out there that just making me look soft right and so instead of just going look at him man fuck yeah right instead of a smart person we'll look at that person as fuel but you have to make your own decisions too because what you do requires a dedication that will

eliminate a lot of things from your life that some people enjoy and think are important dude and also when you when I took the road because I knew what I was doing when you when you take that road and you don't want to just fit in it's a lonely road it's a lonely road and you get a lot of haters man like I tell people all time man if I can walk on water mother fuckers would say because I couldn't swim take that right to fuck now yeah take that right now and and this is a true statement I used to

get so mad like I said about this fucking shit man but I sat back one day I was like you know what all these people hating on me man like I have a guy who's trying to who's trying to write a book saying that I was telling people and he's a famous author like I'm never dropped names dude I'm not trying to hurt your business but you're funny these people are funny keep on talking your shit I will absorb it and make a mistake out of your fucking ass like I do he tried to tell he's he was going to

write a book that I was telling people to run into your kidneys got fucked up that my mentality of running is is I was telling people I was telling people to run into your kidneys got fucked up so running to get robbed running to get robbed that's he was gonna he's gonna write a book and the

premise was the way I think compared the way he thinks I never told a motherfucker in my life I tell you to do better and go as far as you can I won't tell you to go into you fucking kill yourself until you get robbed though but we'll tell you this Joe you will never never in life

me to hate her doing better than you that's a fact ever so when I fucking realize that and Jennifer gets so mad at the lies she hears in this and that because it comes all through they spew it yeah I told you Jennifer that shit man stop yeah fucking calm down bro don't stop

send me that shit 100 percent factual there's the we were we're talking about in the bathroom yeah I was like you got a amount of bandwidth in your mind yeah whatever that those units are let's call it a hundred hundred of those things in your mind the moment you start entertaining haters

you start reading comments you're stealing your bandwidth 100 percent you could apply to your loved ones that you could apply to the thing that you love to do yeah that you could apply to making your life better yeah you're stealing from yourself when you pay attention and I got to talk

about man clearing that space out yeah and that space allows you to make more room for what's important in your life yeah if your mind's still clear to me you can't do shit there's also a thing about you being a public person being a public person now you have access to way more haters

in the average person knows a few haters maybe if you're a good looking woman and you got some bitches in the office like talk shit about you or if you're a guy who's like you know getting after it early and yeah being disciplined and you you make people intimidated by your ambition

right you're gonna have some haters you want people lying about you there's gonna be but you have no idea what it's like to be a public person like yourself and the kind of haters that you must experience because if you paid attention to them all day long you would have no time for anything

else no I never get in 2013 when I was first you know Jennifer knows about this shit I cussed everybody we had this fucking round table and I was like man you have such a great story you need to tell it you need to get on social media I'm blah blah blah I cussed everybody I fuck you I'm not fucking going on that fucking shit that's a bunch of bullshit fucking lying it's it's the devil and the second I fucking got on that shit dude it is the fucking devil Instagram and social media man

I had this fucking kid man who fucking literally there we're gonna talk about haters so much is this little boy his parents reached out to me and he was getting so much hate at school and we get so many emails I can't check them all and but I get to them but later on much like two or three

months later so this guy wrote us and this kid was having a hard time with bullies and when I got to his email I got to it called his family up saying it was going on you know David goggas they were all happy to hear it he had killed himself so like I in the back of my fucking mind and

hurt me the most wasn't I read the fucking email it all whoo shit I get my shit together I wasn't gonna bring this shit up I read the email and they said he can you know you can help her son you know our son really admires you and that's why I am I'm so I'm very vocal for a lot of

reasons but I have to be strong because I know a lot of people aren't so you know I just why don't cower from shit you know at all you want to fucking you know I'll take on whatever whatever challenges in front of me I'll take it on because a lot of people don't have that that courage

and it's hard to be brave it's fucking hard to speak up for which you believe in and they wrote this great email to me and they wanted to talk to the son son was a big father of mine and he uh so I called it's like yeah and it was a silent very silent um pause and they told what happened

and um you hung themself and I was like it was fucked up so you know that's what another reason I hate I hate being a public figure because it's not a public figure that I am like it's funny um I hang around some people who are real public figures you know like celebrities and I have people coming to me first like I'm some famous motherfuckers and people coming to me first and and they want to share their story and their life with me about how they changed and that's a massive responsibility

that people don't understand like um they come to you and they share the demons that they've gone through and the hard shit the hardships that they've gone through and um and they say you in your book and and what you've done and in your social media pay that's why I make sure

I want to go at people so hard Joe sometimes man for fucking talking their shit to me man and lying in shit I make sure that my social media only has like let's let's fucking get it today that's fucking let's fucking get it go where I want you to anybody man

I'm not into that shit dude I want you fuckers to understand dude I'm your biggest fucking for you who don't who aren't bitching and whining and complaining I'm your biggest fucking true leader I want to see you do great yeah I want to see you do great and a lot of that shit comes from

that fucking email from that kid who killed himself that I got to like two or three months too late and that fucking shit every day I fucking where I go I'm like fuck man fuck I gotta be honest I gotta be right I gotta be better and that's that's when you know that when you're trying to do

your best your life sucks and people don't get that when you're trying to have the best character when you're trying to not to fucking lie and you're trying not to fucking put people down and you're trying to live you're trying to set the standard when you're trying to be the standard and that's

there is out you know there's so much going wrong and going off in this world that if people can focus on themselves being better versus throwing hate and fucking all this shit that happens out there and people talking shit running I said I won't miss no more fuckers names I'm trying to hurt

you man but I'm trying to be the standard and sometimes life is just not fun when you're like can't do that can't say that got watch out for that yeah I gotta wake up today I gotta I gotta grind because there may be a mother fuck out there that sees me in their fucking car that says

all right I'm gonna go home and be better today so all these things are my fucking mind every fucking day I wake up every fucking day and I you know so you know I try to get to email I it's me and Jennifer but yeah you know people fucking it's crazy man people come with me tell

me their stories man this fucking very humbling that this kid that came from fucking nothing is now helping people who you know like you know it's just funny and people call me crazy a lot man you're so fucking crazy but what you do now look at I'm straight in the eye and I said man I'm not crazy

I'm just not you I'm just not who you are who you want to be I have a responsibility man and I gotta fucking take that seriously well people like to look at people that are pushing further than them and harder than them like there's something wrong with you yep you must be crazy I'd be

crazy yeah be crazy I love crazy though my favorite people crazy yes but I don't look at it as a negative no I look at it as a strength it is I see a person who's willing to go to that dark matter place I go oh I like that oh yeah but you went there doing so broctober man you went

there you went there so how did that feel man when you fucking were going into those journeys into those compartments well what I like about it is that you had to do it every day you know and so I just every day would you know know it was coming okay hey all right here we go time to get going

and every day just get after it in some crazy way one of my favorite things is the thing that I hate the most it's air dine sprints I do those tabata sprints on the air die machine oh the fucking echo bike yeah the echo bike from rogue yeah 20 second sprints 10 second rest 27 do cycles of eight

so eight rounds of that and then I'll do another one another one another one I was doing an hour that that's fucking brutal bro so hard but it would but when it was done I'm standing in a puddle I'm completely drenched right but that feeling of getting through this because the last

cycles when you're doing like and you look like as the rogue bike will show you like you've done three right which means you have to you have to do five more of these sprints and that 10 seconds just non-existent you're like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

and then tech it's like did it did right it's it's so quick and then you're back at it again those last ones are so hard but when you get through it the rest of the day is so much better that's like fight training man because the month of November I've been doing this drinking really

oh man I've been working out I'm still working out but we're doing a lot of drinking and I'm like this I gotta stop so I woke up today because today's December 1st I'm like I'm not drinking this month I'll have a glass wine and Christmas or something like that but this month I'm back to the

grind are you cuz yeah yeah cuz I enjoyed October the suck when it's over it's life is better wait no just gotta get through the suck right and then life is better but the thing that gets me is the level of I don't give a fuck an anxiety the less the the lack of anxiety that comes

after you work out every day is so worth the workout you're so calm so calm the only thing that changes your fucking DNA is discipline yes discipline is one thing that changes your DNA man it is the only thing only thing man you could be fucking so fucked up and I realized that

man the only thing that changed my DNA is discipline I've incorporated a new thing that I'll tell you where I get up first thing in the morning I get in the cold plunge because I was doing the cold plunge after I did the sauna and it's a little easier because the sauna sucks right

but you know when not 20 minutes is up or 25 minutes is up and then you get in that cold the cold sucks but it doesn't suck as much as when you're cold and then you get in the cold so when I wake up in the morning I don't dress warm right where my fucking underwear and I go outside it's 40

degrees this morning and I walk out and I lift a lid on that morosco cold plunge and I see the fucking ice floating up in there and every day I climb in that's brutal and I just get in there for three minutes in the morning and then I work out that's fucking because I read this thing

I'll send it to you Jamie but I read this thing where they've been doing studies on what happens to people in juberman and I actually discussed this and juberman's a very interesting guy but it's about the benefits of cold plunge before you actually

work out really yeah because there's a benefit after you work out in terms of reduction of inflammation but what they're saying is you shouldn't do it right after you lift weights got it got it because then it's yeah it actually decreases the hypertrophy so you don't gain

as much mass or getting as much strength but there's some benefit to doing it before you work out I think there's a link involved in that too so anyway this is a guy who's talking about prostate specific antigen blood test came back very high and everyone said that he had to get a biopsy

and he said the story I've heard about older men getting biopsies in prostate ectomies sent it like nightmares to him so he decided to try to manage his PSA with ketosis and ice baths so it worked his PSA dropped from over seven to less than one and along the way a funny thing

happened to his testosterone it went through the roof to 1140 which is crazy high he said my urologist didn't believe me he thought I must be juicing so he had my luteinizing hormones test to two sure enough 8.9 is off the charts for a fat guy in his 50s he said then

I did a research and discovered a Japanese study from 1991 that showed the secret was exercising after your ice bath so the opposite of what everybody says to do which is exactly how I got this far in the first place he said now I'm stuck with the T levels of an over six 19 year old I'm not

complaining damn but so this is the thing that people are realizing now there's some extreme benefit to heavy duty so here's it is extreme benefit to heavy duty cold exposure right and then you force your body to heat up and then you work out there's so you know I'm trying that now and I've only

done a three days in a row how's it working it's working it's hard but part of it is just the fact that you have to do it in the like I'm not giving myself any mornings off so I have that's how I start my day now whereas before I was working out so the workout I ease myself into the workout

get on the bike more mop jump a little rope start the kettlebell routine do all the things you gotta do but now it's just right into the suck so it's harder I tell you right now man the fucking code being in cold water cold ice water it literally is the one thing that makes you question

everything when you're going through hard training and shit like that like you know I've been through a lot of different training the military and that cold water it definitely many dreams die while suffering that should be a teacher many dreams die while suffering my friend that's so

true I talk about it man like this is fucking guys getting that water and you see their fucking eyes roll back and I'm like oh yeah many dreams die while suffering friend yeah I was trying to talk to Jamie about it Jamie I'll do cold it's just like there's a level of cold I want to ease

myself into it I don't want to just start in the worst that might be the best way to do it Jamie yeah he's got he's got jump in that bitch I just I just couldn't go like below my knees man man man what's that pecker gets cold boys real I know yeah it's all real I go right up to the chin

I want to water right there I lost the jet right there man if it's real legit you go under Hicks and Gracie puts a snorkel on really yeah Hicks and gets in that water for a couple minutes under the water with the snorkel on he likes that shit huh six and Hicks and intense

motherfucker so I'm speaking of that who's the best ever oh the best ever in MMA ever in MMA it's hard to say there's a lot of candidates you know I've always said mighty mouse is one of my best bets because he was so goddamn good and he's still so goddamn good now but now he's fighting in one

FC but he was a flyaway champion for a long time and his he was the highest level of expression of mixed martial arts ability that I've ever seen but he's also fighting guys that are much lighter they're 125 pounds you know everyone's very quick but he was just so skillful but then there's

John Jones John Jones really never lost that's the nasty motherfucker he's a nasty motherfucker and you know really John Jones fucked off you want to talk about a guy who just did it by talent and will John Jones beat Alexander Gustafson without training basically didn't train there's a few guys

like that there's a guy named Ryan Span who's out there right now just fucked up Dominic Reyes and Dominic Reyes was the one guy who took John Jones to the limit Dominic Reyes went on a series of losses after that fight but he had this fight with John Jones and took John Jones to the fucking limit

and a lot of people thought he won that decision then he went on after that fight got knocked out by Yomblehova it should became the light heavyweight champion got knocked out by Yuri Prahaska and then just got lit up by Ryan Span and Ryan Span is this guy who's always been ultra ultra talented

but just was always afraid of running out of gas didn't train didn't really put in camps just had a lot of ability and a lot of technique right and his last fight he fought Dominic Reyes and he put in a full training camp for the first time ever and just fucked Dominic Reyes up

just lit him up like a Christmas tree in the first round and put him away so you're talking about a guy who beat you know many people's eyes we should have wanted a decision against John Jones right and then Ryan Span just takes him out in the first round easy quick because he finally worked hard

well there's something about that full training camp man there's something about going out no phone yes up in the fucking mountains away from civilization away from the bacon and eggs the six sheets the fucking five star resorts the fucking everybody knowing you sign autographs and shit

dark matter dude dark matter like a mother fucker the further you fucking drive out of your house and start going up in that fucking mountain man you start to that fucking mind starts to click over man you get a full camp up in some fucking dark matter place yep it's fucking over bro there's

a reason why so many guys would go up to Big Bear yeah that's where gononik Lofkin used to go up there can breathe in that month at least go to the polka nose yes Ali or Tyson rather we go to the cat skills hmm a lot of guys would do that a lot of evil up in the fucking mountains boring

caskies it's also this nature oh yeah it's like nature doesn't give a fuck about you and there's something at all realize when you're running a mountain and you know you see eagles fun nobody is a fuck about you no one there's no press no one's watching that's a beautiful thing man that's

when you really know who you are yeah and you get up there is no like the coaches probably back a little bit you got you little run by yourself and shit you figure out a lot you figure out a lot man you start to figure out a lot of fucking problems up there by yourself yeah so this is I don't

the answer question I don't think there is a greatest ever because there's different weight classes you're right kabeeb definitely is in the conversation he's the only like a really elite guy to retire undefeated that's a nasty motherfucker oh he was so good dude do something about looking at that

motherfucker like I love these guys who you can look in their eyes you can tell something right heart is now you can tell something's fucking right heart made right that's in a good way set me right the way when he fought Conor McGregor and they were booing him at the weigh-ins and he goes

I'm gonna smash your boy he should play that interview but play that interview because when I'm talking to him and he did they're all booing and she's like they're all Conor McGregor fans they flew in from Ireland I mean this is a big fight and he's like I'm gonna smash your boy Alhamdulillah

I'm gonna smash your boy put this you then booing him kabeeb what does this fight mean to you to defend your title tomorrow it's so loud there that's why I'm screaming it's so loud first of all I want to say Alhamdulillah God give me everything

Alhamdulillah I know you got this you don't like this Alhamdulillah Tomor O'Light I'm gonna smash your boy guys I'm gonna smash your boy and I want to say thank you all Irish fans you know all fans around the world because of you guys this fight has happened thank you guys and Tomor O'Light

in Shala and still thank you sir good luck to you the championship gentlemen thank you all I'm gonna smash your boy and that's what he did he was on top of a pounding them going let's talk now because Conor he was saying it while doing the fight play that play that he's on top of the

hunch of the face go let's talk let's talk now beating the fuck out of him that's the next live let's talk now let's talk now and Conor was like we're talking let's talk now let's talk let's talk now oh my god Conor saying it's only business and he could be says you tired let's talk

she's a dude he brought that shit to the level man yeah well he used that as fuel he took no fucking mental a station's not training camp no no no he was a bad motherfucker and then when his father died he told his mother he was gonna fight one more time and that's it and so he's in his

prime still right now he's in his physical prime and he's like so he'll think he's gonna he's done he's not coming back you know thank well his protégé is Islam a Makachev who's now the new UFC lightweight champion and Islam is as good as him in that same realm I mean remains to be seen

whether or not Islam can have a reign the way he did but he just beat Charles Oliver air is one of the best ever and he just ran through him to win the title that's a bad dude too man all the hours a bad motherfucker and Oliver is an interesting case too because Oliver used to be kind of a

quitter yeah no he kind of fell apart and many fights early in his career and then he got the birth of his daughter and then changed his fucking entire life changed the way he fought changed his mentality changed his his discipline and his focus and then became this motherfucker who just

done it everybody Oliver I believe he's 33 see find out with that that's accurate so there's some there's some old fighters right now who are still kicking ass yes y'all in the hovitch glover to shara just lost the light heavyweight title at 42 he wanted it 42 and then lost it to your broska in a very very close fight yeah it's 33 Oliver is 30 know what's funny about that man but I see these older guys who are still fucking grinding hard people are still about father time yeah

father time doesn't get you man it's father fatigue it's father fatigue man like I see these guys who have been in sports for a long time fighting the basketball for what we're this yeah and it's that grind it's that every day waking up grind it's not it's not father time man it's it's the fact that you know I got go do it again yeah I got to do it again so a lot of these guys are fighting father fatigue and they're doing a good job of doing it I think there's many factors there's father fatigue

there's father enthusiasm that's right but then there's also injuries there's so many of these guys are fighting with fucked up backs and fucked up knees and fucked up elbows and fucked up hands and you don't know that when you see them because they look jacked they look ripped right in their head

they know I got to be careful if I move to the side on my right side because my knees fucked I know all about I got to be careful if I get kicked in the legs because this is fucked I got to be shit yeah and there's a lot of guys that also been they've taken too many shots and they can't

take a punch anymore right that happens to guys and then you see they get dinged once and they get wobbly where so what the fuck happens with that man I started seeing guys who fucking been getting hit a lot yeah they can't take a hit anymore man they don't fucking go out quick there's a lot of

speculation and one of the things they say is that they believe that at certain point in time your brain tries to protect you from the punishment just shut off like that your your your body realizes like this dude is too strong mentally he's too tough and he'll just absorb shots and this is

ruining our brain so when you get hit your brain is like check please wow and your brain will shut off and then the other that's a optimistic perspective got it the other less optimistic mystic perspective is that you're destroying your mind and that your mind is simply not resilient

anymore and you can't take a shot anymore because you've damaged all the connective tissue that's holding the fucking brain in place and you've also created so much CTE and so much swelling and somebody that one shot can take you out there's also on top of that one of the big problems with

MMA is the weight cutting so the weight cutting was which what everybody does they the drain themselves 24 hours before the fight weigh in say oh he weighs 170 pounds like guys like Kamaru Usman who's giant for 170 he's 170 for like 20 minutes how much does he weigh like walk

on the street 200 pounds 200 pounds easy so does he come back in the ring about 190 200 he's in the 190s for sure yeah blin is fuck shredded but but dehydrated like hell to make 170 there's he's not ever really 170 he's 170 believe him totally sucked up you mean also cramping you know

it's terrible to do that 24 hours before you have a cage fight so crazy he's fucked up so those take a toll so if you're 35 37 39 all these guys that have been doing that their whole life every time you cut that weight it takes a little chip off the old block every time every time

it takes it's another chop into the tree trunk gotta just weakens your foundation and it's just little minor things every training camp you go through you know can you do another one you know your back is fucked up you get out of bed like this like it's like little micro injuries that

are constantly piling up you know we're talking about Hicks and Grace earlier Hicks and can't really even roll hard anymore he's in the 60s and he's got these injuries all over his back is all fucked up so all those years of Jiu-Jitsu that Gracie's just no joke though

hmm then mother fuck that family they changed the world the world just little 160 pound mother fucker man this little mother fuck came and see him on his fat mother fuckers this fucking yeah finger finger fucking locking you out man my fuck gets you the pinky lock bro like where's

he tapping from why is he tap I came and see you know Gracie got my fucking a pinky lock this is it was nasty dude they taught the world Jiu-Jitsu the world didn't know Jiu-Jitsu is the only martial art that people had ever experienced that did what was advertised right what was advertised

without a small skillful person could be the larger stronger opponent who didn't know the techniques he proved it he proved it I'm a farmer who is Gracie proved it in the UFC and he changed martial arts forever and that that family's probably the most consequential the most important significant

family in the history of martial arts the Gracie family changed martial arts worldwide it's funny man about you know there's so many people out here who are who are very successful and they talk about I mean super money great family I should they talk about that they're missing something

that there's something in life that they're missing and they and they talked to me about that shit and I missing the Gracies it seemed like they they had this it went about money it went about nothing man they're like grassroots motherfucker and that's what I was told people that they're missing

that they're missing that desire like those guys had a passion and a fucking obsessed that's the word yeah obsession yeah and I guarantee you man those more fuckers don't have those conversations I feel like I'm missing something right they're not they're not missing shit dude no they they

got it figured out man well Hickson in particular because Hickson was hoist his older brother who was everybody says is the greatest of all time really from that era yeah he was there was never been a time other than today there's a time right now with Gordon Ryan which is very rare it's very rare

where someone comes along and everybody says this is the baddest motherfucker alive no ifants or questions about and back then when Hickson was in his prime right you ask any black belt anywhere in the world they'll like Hicksons the man Hicksons the man any he was a yogi he that all this crazy

breath work that he would do he figured out the physical as well as the mental far beyond where everybody else was willing to travel and there's a great documentary people are interested in Hicks and Gracie called choke Hickson's been on the podcast a couple of times there's a great documentary

called choke that followed him when he was in his prime in the 1990s competing in Japan and one of the things he does in that documentary he gets in a frozen glacial river and he just sits down he's meditating in this river up to his neck of this fucking 30 degree water just washing over him

he's just on talent bro he's like thank you my lord thank you my lord he's just like just taking it all in it's beyond talent that's bad as there's so much involved there's talent there's discipline there's the mind focus and there's also the brilliance of his ability to interpret and understand

technique right so many things that's bad and this is the case with Gordon Ryan today who's arguably the greatest of all time and Gordon is a lot bigger than everybody that was you know Hickson was at his prime was about 200 pounds Gordon's like 240 and you know Gordon is utilizing

modern training methods and 365 days a year trains doesn't take any days off this is Hickson and the frozen glacial river that's his brother hoiler who's also one of the grades that's that Gracie family man who've never been a family like no never been a family like in martial arts

you just have like never will be army of killers it's it yeah I mean oh there's a snorkel yep that's what he likes to do is to get under that water he does that with the cold plunge too no it's it's crazy that so many people would never understand that kind of discipline or that kind of

that kind of human being that wants to go to the stratosphere yeah they'll never they'll always be misunderstood man always you came in that's why a lot of times when I talk to people I can't I can't have a conversation with a lot of people man because you're gonna walk away like

why do you do it David why don't you just take a break yeah you deserve a break David take a nap yes it you ever have a piece of pie why don't you put your feet up yeah why don't you freeze a little do you think one day you'll get fat that's it you should lay yourself get fat dude

you're being funny as fuck mr. Chewis of all fucking statements yeah dude I don't do nearly as much as you and I get it dude right now like you you would never understand that's why we'll never talk yeah you never get it so I don't have a conversation with people man those are brutal conversations with people that like but I don't understand where your motivation is that's why what are you chasing I haven't been a podcast a few years yes a cure where you're running from

why you running from David where you going no you get there faster in a car oh I get that a lot that's the one I get a lot I get that a lot and and they're joking I'm like and I'll find a sit funny like you motherfuckers so dumb it's dumb as fuck man but whenever you're someone who's that

wild and that far beyond where most people are willing to go you're gonna you're gonna run into normies well it's like mothore is going to the circuit breaker man and they's going there start rewiring their brain hmm they going to say like like that motherfucker right there but there's

noir going to shit yeah oh no man I got put this over here yeah this circuit needs to be there and I see be there it's totally rewiring how the whole brain works to not to not feel sorry for yourself yeah take nor pain to ignore discomfort to push your place you know to push your mind

place that people don't even fucking want to talk about they can't fathom and it's what you talk about with knowledge yep that's what it is this is knowledge it's understanding of those feelings that's it and the only way you understand that those feelings are rare they don't come up

all the time all day long you wouldn't be able to deal with them all right so most people don't know what to do with those feelings they're not around them enough but you're around them constantly right Hickson was around them constantly yeah it's like get in those then you learn about them

you get a map of the territory get blueprint yeah in a second they surface when you're fucking getting choked out I've seen so many I see I love watching fights man because I see them and I start to stay okay in the bad situation man and I see a couple guys getting ready to fucking tap

yeah and that one second decision I call it they're thinking man I gotta tap it's like and and and and you see the hand motion like I'm at the tap and it goes somewhere else not today motherfucker yeah because I've been here I've been here before I can last maybe this one more

second and this one second may get me out of this shit and I see how the how the mind is evolving in that one moment that one quick moment I see that a million thoughts went through their fucking mind and it didn't tap I'm gonna show you an example of that Brian Ortega versus Alexander

Volkanowski Alexander Volkanowski almost gets tapped out Volkanowski is the next guy to fight Islam Makachev and Islam Makachev is Kabebes protege I so bad boy Alexander Volkanowski is the 145 pound champion he's going up to 155 to try to fight Makachev and win the title of that weight

so he fights this guy Brian Ortega who is a student of Hiran and Henner Gracie got it so he's an elite black belt and he gets Brian Ortega gets Volkanowski in this guillotine choke mounted guillotine choke which is the nastiest shit ever and this guy is a fucking strangulation expert and Volkanowski

is stuck here he is a volume give me some volume here here's his mind and he got out see and he got out he was so close he hear Paul Paul Felder saying he might go to sleep so he almost catches him here now in a dors and Volkanowski winds up on top that's so bad and we gets on top

he just starts hammering up hammering up I mean this fight is one of the best examples you want to watch this fight you want to talk about will and warrior spirit this is one of the best fights ever for both guys because Ortega like going into the fourth round he like how is this

motherfucker surviving and then he comes out in the fifth round comes guns blazing see bulties guys just drain the fucking gas tank in this fight it was an amazing amazing amazing fight now where he should have did after that he should have gone home and wrote that shit out

because in that moment if he could even think about it the knowledge he gained in that moment priceless right what was happening when you almost tapped what was and I'm not talking about this surface conversation that's beautiful to me I I study that shit so much you were in a horrible

situation I know you were like I got a tap I got a tap I got a tap but if you break that down really break it down to the small small cue possible your mind went through so many things that allowed you to not tap you got to study that man that right there is so much that's that's

beautiful yeah that's that that's beauty right there at work yeah work it is because for that man I mean Vulcanowski he walked out of there with his fucking belt with the victory the cheers the roars the crowd goes back home he fucking did it it's amazing but he almost I see he got to the door of

death see it's that one second decision that one second decision I talk about this motherfucker right here you get there and you want to quit and you don't yeah and you're not fucking getting through it man well that's the thing is like your book can give people if even if they don't get a map

of the territory they're getting directions right you want to go to i95 it's right about 10 miles down when you see woodland hills road take a right you're giving them you might not be giving them a map because I think the map has to be acquired personally 100 percent but you're giving them

directions you're saying this is how I got through this is how I developed my map people want to hand it to them I can't hand it to you you can't but you can give them something yeah not when I texted you I was in the middle of book I was like I can run through a fucking wall

right now because that's it it feels like I love that there's something about the way you describe things and the way you're so honest and so personal about it especially the audio version of it and then when you do the podcast so you the way the audio the audio is a special treat because it's

the book and then with each individual chapter you have a small podcast where you and your co-writer break down what what what it was like for you and what was happening right and and what what you were feeling and what you and it allows you to do it in an unscripted way so you could

really and you're so honest about it it just it just gives you an understanding of that this discomfort is unavoidable right when they're trying to avoid discomfort just brings you more discomfort right you don't realize it it just brings you this long term dull discomfort

as opposed to the searing pain of like mid-struggle discomfort which is what everybody's trying to avoid every but you're still going to get discomfort you're just going to get this I could have a shot of what have been discomfort which is maybe worse you're right it might be worse

it just makes it a little easier that's all that's all the repetitions do man it's not done take with the pain then take with the suffering no you just stated you know it you know how it feels yeah you know when to breathe but not to breathe you know all these different things you've been

there you visited you you you've lived there for a long period of time and that's why I like this book so much is because it can't hurt me was like a bachelor's degree it was like the surface level of David Goddard and some things that can help you out this to me is a master's degree this book

here takes you to another level of of the mind and how you think and that's why I say this ain't no fucking self-help book this is what the fuck are you doing with your life book yeah and that's why that's so important what are you doing with your life man why are you sitting around why are you waiting for shit to happen it could happen like that why are you feeling sorry for yourself why you waiting for that fucking apology that's never gonna fucking come people sit around waiting and waiting

and waiting and waiting and blaming and blaming and waiting with a handout yeah COVID happened and everybody's hands out now hands out and you see how it changed sort of the tone of the country it did and it made people feel entitled like someone deserve they deserve something yep that's right

you don't deserve shit you deserve shit and that's the one thing that I knew in this part if they give you shit you're gonna be even more miserable oh that's a true statement isn't it true statement is it true statement everybody wants the government to come along and help them it's true statement someone to come along and give you things no I should get things you should redistribute wealth you're not gonna be happy no you're not you got to go get it no you're you're gonna always

wonder well I've all this fucking money why do I feel like I said I feel like I'm missing something right because you didn't go out and achieve it on your own it's like a man who inherited money that's it they're always missing something big time there's something wrong with them someone

it gift wrapped you some shit yeah and now you're just a bitch now you're half a man that's it it's like a man but you're like one of them Easter buddy candy things you know those those chocolate Easter bunnies that's it you like you try to bite into it you gotta

fuck them shit so that's a fucked them shit so up not 300 yeah well I loved them when they were solid when you got a solid oh yeah oh look at this a lot more calories a lot more snacks in that bitch there's a solid Easter bunny that's a big bite into one I just just destroy all the fuck up

your teeth shit this is a fucking hollow one this sir yeah a lot of people are hollow Easter bunnies a lot of people are hollow inside too yeah but you don't have to be no this is the beautiful thing of your story is that you started out fucked up and sad and couldn't do anything and you

transformed yourself so people don't think like this guy's just always been hard from the cradle like you you you turned yourself into this which is the real that's the that's the story that gives people hope you can truly develop otherworldly discipline right it's possible to develop other

worldly mental strength well we change everything we change our car we change our house sometimes you change our wife or husband we change the underwear we change everything in our lives change our hair change how we look change everything but very few of us change how we think

and that's the one problem with a lot of people they're not willing to change how they think you're not going to evolve if you continue thinking the same fucking way so a lot of people have a problem with that so I'm always trying to evolve in some way I'm never wearing the same underwear every day

always changing that bitch never finished is that right now ladies and gentlemen I can't recommend it enough it's a fucking fantastic book as good if not better then can't hurt me you're the man brother appreciate you very much thank you Joe bye everybody