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AI-Generated Music in Film: A New Era

Nov 07, 20249 min
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In this conversation, Jaeden Schafer discusses the growing trend of AI-generated music in the film industry, particularly focusing on Indian filmmaker Ram Gopal Varma's decision to exclusively use AI for his projects. The discussion delves into the implications of this shift, the controversy surrounding AI in creative fields, and the potential future of AI in Bollywood and beyond. Schafer emphasizes the accessibility that AI brings to creators with limited resources and the evolving landscape of the music and film industries.



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There's been a bunch of news reports that relate directly to AI and music and a film producer that has said he will exclusively be using AI-Generated Music in all of his films and all the scores on his movies. This is something so interesting. I want to break down the story because my background is in, I've done a lot of stuff with businesses doing music in the past and even AI-Generated Music.

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Anyways, let's get into this story. What I found really interesting here, so this is coming from an Indian filmmaker, his name is Ram Gopal Varma. He said that he is completely going to abandon human musicians and he's exclusively going to be using AI generated music.

So he says that this is something that he thinks is going to be more and more of a trend in a bunch of different creative industries. I think he's like a Bollywood movie producer. He's created a couple of companies or a couple of movies, one called company, Wrangley, a cyclor and set.

In any case, he has a new company called RGB Den Music that will only feature music generated from AI apps, including, you know, Suno and UDO and all that kind of stuff. So he's got he's got businesses in this space and he's a movie producer, kind of famous Bollywood movie producer. Super, super fascinating for me.

What I think is really interesting here is Varma essentially said that he's only going to be using AI generated music in all of his projects, all of his movies, the entire background score on his new movie called Surrey. He said is completely AI generated. So he's not just saying that he's literally implementing this right now. I think this is absolutely fascinating.

When he was asked like why this is his direction because this is actually a really sort of a controversial topic. I was recently talking to a friend who did some consulting and working with some Hollywood producers. And he the Hollywood producers apparently were saying like, look, we love some of these AI generated movie video software. We love some of the AI gender music.

Like all of this kind of stuff is so fascinating to us, but it's really controversial. You have like the all the strikes and Hollywood of screenwriters and different people that are kind of against AI and feel like they're going to get replaced by it. And because of that, apparently a lot of the Hollywood movie producers have they essentially have like burner accounts on tick Twitter or X. And they post like different short videos, different content that they're producing over there.

But without their actual name and they're getting thousands of followers, tons of engagement, tons of interaction, they're doing amazing, you know, really great work. But they kept with their actual name on it because they're afraid of you know any sort of fall fall out for their career or whatever. So it's just so fascinating to me. It's like obviously what they produce is high quality and impressive people like it.

But they're just worried because it has you know the bad PR and optics and the word that people are going to get mad from the industry. So I think this is something that it's going to be as we have more of these kind of movie producers that are very like open about it. I think this is going to be something that becomes less less taboo less controversial and it's just at the end of the day it just it works. It's great.

And people are going to be using it. So anyways, what you know what did a Varma have to say exactly about this. It's kind of cracking up. He said eventually the me he's quote eventually the music comes from your thoughts. You need to have clarity on what you want the app to produce. It's the taste that will matter. So I actually think that this is pretty accurate and this goes for video as well as music.

Like the taste is so much knowing different keywords to put in there like cinematic, you know keywords to create the video or when it comes to audio putting different words that will flavor the style and the type of music that's produced. And I think it's going to become more and more important. And yeah, this is obviously a big part of you know what he's saying there.

So I think another thing that's interesting is we're obviously seeing a whole bunch of AI that's getting into the entire into the entire creative industry. A lot of people are really excited about it. But also at the same time we have a lot of really high profile people including Christopher Nolan who recently cautious or cautioned against.

And over a lion's on AI saying that it can't replace humans. And specifically Christopher Nolan, I think he's like it's not going to replace like humans intuition or kind of their artistic creation. So like I don't know it's very interesting people have very very different opinions on this. But this seems like something that especially in countries or places or people that have less of a budget to produce music or to produce film.

And it's not even a brainer and it just makes a lot of sense like especially for film it's like people can't spend millions of dollars to make a movie. Especially if you're just one person in your own room and you got a really creative idea, but you don't have to bring it to life. Like as if anyone could ever judge that person for using AI things. It's like well, wouldn't it be so much better if it was real people and real. Yeah, maybe sure.

Like look, these people don't have the means they don't have the money. So it's like you're if you don't have millions of dollars produces kind of these movies or thousands of thousands of dollars produces kind of music. You're you're kind of locked out of the whole industry. There's so much creativity that's I think just ready to be unlocked. And so that's why I'm excited about this. I don't think it's one spec controversial. I think we should 100% embrace it.

And of course, yeah, that's my opinion on it. But in any case, I want to talk about India because this producer coming out of India, it seems like India obviously has a lower GDP. It's probably a little bit more limited on funds for a lot of the producers there or people there. And so it seems to be like a place that this these AI generated music and movies are picking up steam faster than in the United States in any case.

But apparently India creates around 1500 to 2000 movies every year. So their movie industry is pretty big. And if this gets really adopted, like obviously Bollywood's huge. That will have some pretty big impacts. Their music industry also creates around 20 to 25,000 songs every year. So it's really big.

Varma, who's, you know, this big movie producer down there, he's kind of funny. He was criticizing actual people that produce the music and composers essentially is criticizing them because he's like, yeah, they always like Mr. Deadlines. There's always scheduling conflicts. He said that lyricists are never really good at capturing the full essence of a song for like the words and the AI does a better job, which I thought was absolutely hilarious.

Interesting. And yeah, he was essentially just arguing that these are just like all human factors that are impeding the creative process. And they're both time consuming and really expensive. So he argues that AI can deliver all of this instantly at zero cost. And his AM models are getting better and better.

That this music essentially you produce a soundtrack. You're like awesome. Now put these types of words in and it does a better job than a lyricist, which I thought bold claim. But you can see where he's coming from sort of. Here's a quote he said, human musicians, composers, lyricists and singers will be vastly affected and then completely disappear in the near future as the apps keep developing at a rapid pace.

So apparently he's working right now with reclaimed protocol and also story protocol to essentially get the IP for his AI generated songs and using some cryptographic proofs and other stuff to do that. But he said that many of his filmmaker friends and other people that are in the industry are also really excited by a lot of the potential that we're seeing an AI.

And he thinks that this technology is going to make even further inroads specifically in the Indian movie industry in the coming years. I'd be curious to see how that translates into the United States and into the movie industry here as well.

Absolutely fascinating topic. So it's super excited to see what happens there. I'll definitely keep you up to date. And again, if you are interested in creating music or videos and turning that into some sort of side hustle or creating or monetizing that in any way. I would love for you to join the AI hustle school community where we talk about using AI tools for side hustles for growing your business and for essentially making money.

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