Creating an Audio Experience

Welcome to the Jody Mayberry Show. Well, last episode, Rick Allen was my guest. And, you know, usually when I have guests, I have them come back and ask me questions only if they I I tend to only do it if they've it's their first time on the episode. But Rick is back to ask me three questions, and I think the reason why is because his brother, Bob, didn't ask three questions after he was recently on. So this is a way for Rick to have one

up on Bob. Now I could be making that up, Rick, but that just seems what's going on here. Totally right. Totally right. I've got a scoreboard right here next to my desk, and I get a point for this. So absolutely, man. Good. I'm glad I could help you score one point against Bob. Alright. What is your first question? Okay. So I'm hoping this one, you haven't been asked yet, but I I like it. And so I'll throw it out there. And, you can tell me, oh, Rick, you've already

been asked this 10 times. But who would be your dream

guest, living or dead? And then what would you ask them? Well, I have two answers. My goodness. I have, like, 12. Alright. I'll just pick the first one that came to mind. I'll just do that. And I am just fascinated with Theodore Roosevelt, and him as president is, to me, like, just that's not the peak of Theodore Roosevelt for me. I mean, such a fascinating guy. I'd have so many questions about his time out west. Rick, do you know much about Theodore Roosevelt? I wouldn't

be I think I'm near an expert here. I would I probably would have to say no compared to what you've got. Oh my goodness. Well, many things fascinate me about him. But when he was younger, his mother and his wife died on the same day. And Oh. He went out west. So he was he just remade himself. He moved out to the Dakotas and remade himself in the image of a

cowboy. And that is just amazing. He when he was younger, he had asthma pretty severely, and he remade himself into a strong, vigorous man who no longer had asthma. And I just think, well, how does someone do that? Like, how strong must your mind be to be able to do things like that? And he was police commissioner in New York City. He was governor. He was secretary of the navy, vice president, president. And then after that, he he, went on safaris in Africa. He nearly died exploring a river in

South America that no one had explored before. Like, the man never stopped. Somebody said I forget who said it. But when he died, somebody said, I may get this slightly wrong. Of course, death had to take him while he was sleeping. Otherwise, there would have been a fight. I'm just fascinated with Theodore Roosevelt. I love it. I love it. What a good one. And it sounds like you'd have wouldn't just have one question. You'd have about a hundred and one questions. Oh my goodness. We we go

out for a hike and talk for quite a while, I think. Yeah. Cool. Cool. Cool. Alright. Great answer. Alright. So I give can I give you two more? Let's go. Question number two. What is a topic you haven't explored yet, but you're excited to talk about in the future? You know what this question reminds me of? When I became a law enforcement park ranger, part of doing that is taking the lie detector test.

And they ask you know, I said I would never I would never give insight on the lie detector test because if you know what's coming, then you'll think about it and it might mess you up. So I'm not gonna say that. Oh, man. That's oh, oh, god. Really? But, Rick, if I tell you and then you have to take a lie detector test, you will have already thought through, and it'll mess with your mind, maybe. So Okay. Alright. I won't go there. Now

that just makes for a goofy answer. Okay. The topic I've always wanted to talk about is I used to host a podcast for travel writers and it was called great escape radio for great escape publishing. And it was fascinating to me because most of the shows I do, of course, there's the park ranger show and the rest are business focused. And it was fascinating talking to travel writers because they

do some really cool things. And because of that, I've always thought, you know, it would be really neat to have a travel podcast. And there are a lot of travel shows out there. I just don't know, though. Video is a great format for travel shows. I don't know if audio is a great format, and I would like to explore that. Could you make audio work in a travel podcast? So I talk about travel on my show. I've never explored it as a topic for a stand

alone show, though. Yeah. I you know, I love the idea of making it work with audio only. You know, the video ones are they're great. You know, they're great. But, you know, there's something special about just listening, as you know. I mean, everybody knows that. Listen to the radio and, you know, like, I remember I remember growing up, I listened to the Angels, the California Angels on the radio out in California. Dick Enberg was the was the radio guy, and and, there

was just nothing like that experience. I had a transistor radio, and you'd listen to the games on the radio every night, and it was really special. And you knew exactly what was going on and how it felt. So I think you could awaken some new some new ways to to think about, describing it on the radio Well, what is audio lead. What is neat about the audio experience is, of course, it's great if you were to watch a video

about Yellowstone. But I think if you listen to a podcast about Yellowstone and heard sounds and descriptions Yeah. You put it together in your mind. It creates this audio experience because you don't have the visual piece to look at. And I I think I think there would be something special to that because you have to take all of your experiences, even if you've never been to Yellowstone. You'll put something together in your head on what the rivers look like and the

trees and bison and whatnot. So I think there's something there. Speaking of listening to the Angels on the radio, have you ever heard the story about Ronald Reagan when he was a play by play announcer for the Cubs out of a radio station in Iowa? Well, they would they would send it over. Like, he would get ticker tape play by play. Like, they'd send it to him. And then instead of

reading it, he would call it like he's watching the game. And there was one game where the ticker tape machine stopped working, but he can't say that. He's live on the radio. And he just kept calling a game that he knew nothing about. He just would make it he just made it up. I've always found that fascinating. That's great. God, wouldn't you love to have a recording of one of those? Yeah. Yeah. Listen to the game that never was. The game that never was. All right, Rick. What

do you have for your third question? Alright. Alright. Okay. So this one is, what topic do you think is interesting, but maybe you're too scared to pursue it? That is my goodness. I've never thought about this. I I don't know.

I have a show that I've had in mind for a couple of years, and I wouldn't say I'm too scared to pursue it. I just look at it and say, okay. I'd have a good time with that, but it would take a lot of work. And what would the end result be other than saying, hey, that's a pretty cool show. And, it all tie it it ties to the I do not watch much television, but one of the the shows my wife and I watch together

is Survivor, the reality show. Oh, yeah. Sure. And we started watching that because when I was a park ranger, the first year I was a ranger, I worked about seven hours away from home. So I would drive there, work for all week, come home for the weekends. And while in my absence, my wife had started watching Apprentice and Survivor, one other show, Amazing Race. And so she started saving them so we and then we would

watch them together. So that is one show we've always watched together. And I have what I think is a really good idea for a show based on Survivor. And I'll use the word scared. Rick said scared. I'll use the word. And maybe I'm just scared like that so much time to put into it for what really is the return. So when Rick asked for scared, maybe he was asking for something that intimidates me to talk

about. Sure. Yeah. That's fair. I've done 2,600 podcast episodes by now, and I just I don't know if there's anything I'm scared to talk about. There's probably some topics I wouldn't talk about, but I don't know. I don't know. There's an answer anyway, Rick. Yeah. No. That's good. That's good. That's a tough one. I that's why I threw that at the end. I figured that'd be a interesting way to go.

Yeah. Well, it was it was good. I enjoyed those questions and thinking about creating audio experience, audio travel experiences. There may be some way I'll trade that. You know, when I was younger, like, right after college, I used to carry now it's real easy with your iPhone. I used to carry a cassette recorder with me. And when I would have conversations with people, I would turn on the recorder and just record it. So somewhere, I've got a box of tapes of

conversations I recorded while I was traveling years ago. It would it would be interesting to go back and listen to those. Yeah. No. I think that you could get a lot of fuel from that. But, boy, just like you talk about Yellowstone, you know, just knowing

you know, that camera's a a little bit of a crutch. Right? I mean, you so there it is. And then, you know, the the communicator doesn't have to do a whole lot more. I'm just there's the geyser. But if you don't have that, it forces you, right, to say, alright. Here's how I'm feeling. It's cold. It's this temperature. I got mist on me. You know, there's a couple of floorboards out here. Have they been paying attention out here? Does anybody

else come out? I mean, I don't know. The, you know, the things you could say to make that come alive might be really might be really interesting. I'll sign up for that one. Alright. Maybe that's all it takes. It you know, they say a a photograph's worth a thousand words. How many words does it take to create a mental image? Yeah. I don't know. Maybe we'll find out someday. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be worth it. Well, Rick, it was great having you back.

I'm glad I was able to help you score one point against Bob. And now you can let him know you came on back to back episodes. And, eventually, with the back and forth of Rick and Bob trying to one up each other, maybe they will be the only guests that are ever on this show. That would be great for us. We'd love it. Alright, Rick. Give us one more reminder of where we can find you. My website is rickallenconsultinggroup.com. So r I c k a l l e n, and then the wordsconsultinggroup.com. You can find

me there. Alright. Thank you so much, Rick, and thank you for listening to the Jodi Mayberry Show. It's not what you think. It's Sugar Jay.