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The Inclusive AF Podcast

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Welcome to the Inclusive AF Podcast, your go-to destination for all things DEI, HR, and workplace inclusivity. Hosted by two BFFs with a combined decades of experience in the people space, Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton, this podcast is where candid conversations meet insightful, actionable strategies. Together, they dive deep into the complex (and often messy) world of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, exploring how to build workplaces that are not just diverse, but truly inclusive. Katee is a dynamic Chief People Officer and DEI thought leader at WebPros, dedicated to shaping inclusive corporate cultures that empower underrepresented groups. With expertise in global HR strategy, leadership development, and talent management, Katee brings a wealth of knowledge—and a sense of humor—to every episode. Jackye, a seasoned HR tech and DEI professional, has spent over 15 years driving transformative change in the workplace. A connector at heart, she blends innovation, empathy, and data to craft inclusive work environments that thrive on diverse perspectives. Whether discussing the latest HR trends or sharing stories of workplace triumphs and struggles, Jackye’s unique approach adds a bold, refreshing take to the conversation. Together, Katee and Jackye have built a podcast that is as insightful as it is entertaining, with their signature banter and lighthearted humor making complex topics feel accessible and fun. Expect a mix of practical advice, personal stories, and monthly guest appearances from industry leaders and change-makers. Whether you're an HR professional, a DEI champion, or simply someone passionate about creating better workplaces, Inclusive AF is the podcast that’ll inspire, challenge, and make you laugh. Tune in weekly for a fresh take on creating workplaces where everyone can show up as their true, authentic selves.
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Episodes

Getting Inclusive AF with Zach Nunn

In this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with Zach Nunn about his podcast, the work he is passionate about and how to be better. Zach is a respected DEI expert, with a deep understanding of the challenges employees experience and the intersecting factors that lead to disengagement, attrition, and PR crises. And he is a "table shaker". Enjoy! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going her...

May 11, 202249 min

AAPI Violence is Still Happening- What Can You Do?

In this episode, Jackye and Katee talk about the ongoing violence against Asian Americans & Pacific Islanders. But we want to share resources that will help find a solution, not just talk about it. Below is a link to Right To Be, one of the training tools we want to highlight, but listen to the full episode to hear them all. Hate has no place here. https://righttobe.org If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you w...

Apr 27, 202250 min

Inclusive AF Retreat aka: AZ Eat-A-Thon

In this episode, we discuss a few things that we can only talk about when we are together. Different spaces and together- how do we help others? If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/Inclusi...

Apr 20, 202239 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Julien LeFort

For the last 15 years, Julien has worked with both non-profit (AIESEC, Chance UK, Coaching For Everyone) and private sector (Société Générale, Adecco, Thomsons Online Benefits - Mercer group). Originally he worked in a corporate environment managing Learning and Development globally. His job was to support people in their development as leaders and as individuals, creating programs that would make them shine as employees and make them grow and develop. If you like what you hear, we would like to...

Apr 13, 202239 min

Catching Up On Everything!

In this episode, Jackye and Katee talk about the most impactful topics in DEI today. It is a don't miss episode! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf

Apr 06, 202249 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Maia Ervin

In this episode, Jackye and Katee have a conversation with Maia Ervin, Chief People Officer for JUV Consulting. Maia leads social impact, human resources, and company culture. She uses her experience as a Queer Black womxn speaking out against systematic oppression and inequities to foster work policies and culture that minoritizes folks can thrive in and be proud of. Her dream is to continue to provide platforms for young Black womxn to express themselves authentically without judgment. Fosteri...

Mar 30, 202250 min

Getting Inclusive AF with George LaRoque

In this episode, we talk to a friend of the podcast, George LaRocque about all things technology. George is the Founder of WorkTech. The source of truth for industry data on emerging HR tech innovation. He is also a Founding Partner Impact WorkTech Accelerator - Market Analyst, HR & Tech Advisor, HR leader, and HR tech industry executive. And wow- he comes with some great knowledge! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciat...

Feb 25, 202250 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Laura Close

In this episode, Katee and Jackye speak to Laura Close. And she brought the heat! As a twenty-year veteran of the DEI space, Laura Close started at a time before the term DEI was coined and has spent a career both locking in new structural opportunities and access for historically excluded communities as well as coaching executive leaders within the enterprise on designing and deploying KPIs for DEI at scale. Now, as co-founder of Included.AI Laura and her team have created the first technology ...

Feb 16, 202253 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Nancy Murphy

In this episode, Jackye and Katee speak to Nancy Murphy. Nancy’s spent her career saying what others are afraid to – and learning to say it in ways that others will listen. She’s the founder and president of CSR Communications and creator of Intrapreneurs Influence Lab. Her passion is teaching leaders how to make organizational change stick. From challenging stereotypes of girls in her Catholic school more than 40 years ago, to her first job after college convincing nonprofits to engage youth vo...

Jan 27, 202243 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Vivian Acquah

In this episode, Katee and Jackye speak with Vivian Acquah, an inclusive Workplace Wellness Advocate. Vivian advises managers on how to keep their team members engaged, energized, and safe in a sustainable manner. Vivian Acquah is making topics related to workplace wellness & DEI accessible to everyone. She provides people with the right tools, at the right time, to embrace inclusive changes. Vivian motivates people to think consciously and inspires them to take action. As a multicultural an...

Jan 19, 202253 min

Happy New Year with Inclusive AF

Jackye and Katee are back in the mix and having some conversations on what we hope this new year brings for us and for you! Welcome to 2022!! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveA...

Jan 12, 20221 hr 5 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Joshua Gilbert

During this episode, Jackye and Katee talk to Joshua Gilbert. Joshua Gilbert, CEO, and Founder, Circle Search, LLC. He has championed over 19 years in the tech space, all within Talent Acquisition, and consulting. Joshua avails 14 years' experience in team building for national and international tech startups. Joshua is a father of three amazing children and a husband to one. An overall superhero and genius, ex-Elite Athlete, former Homeless snob, Life Coach, Head Varsity Boys High School Basket...

Dec 15, 202149 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Omolara Uwemedimo

In this episode, Jackye and Katee speak with Dr. Olomara Uwedimo. Dr. Omolara Thomas Uwemedimo is an empowerment coach, business development & growth strategist and CEO of Melanin & Medicine. In less than 12 months, she built Melanin & Medicine into a successful, multi-six-figure company that provides support, strategy & skills to help Black women physicians pivot into purpose-led careers & businesses & live more fulfilled & integrated lives. As a career transition st...

Dec 08, 202157 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Jes and Jessica

In this episode, Katee and Jackye speak to Jes and Jessica, co-founders of the Rise Journey, a DEI Consultancy. They share their thoughts on a number of DEI related topics.

Nov 18, 20211 hr 9 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Tara Robertson and Alexandra Samuel

Jackye and Katee had more fun with Tara Robertson and she brought a friend! Alexandra Samuel and Tara recently published an article in the Harvard Business Review entitled "Don't Let Hybrid Work Set Back Your DEI Efforts". They share some of their findings in this episode and so much more! Tune in to hear all about it! Here is a link to the article: https://hbr.org/2021/10/dont-let-hybrid-work-set-back-your-dei-efforts If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our...

Nov 10, 202159 min

Inclusive AF Live!

Join us as we celebrate the 50th episode of Inclusive AF and share some of our memories!

Nov 03, 202155 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Amanda Young

Amanda Young has just authorized an amazing children's book and she is here to share what drove her to write, "Jumo the Unicorn". Amanda is so transparent about her journey about how to drive inclusion and Jackye and Katee loved hearing about it all-including the animals! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor ...

Oct 20, 202148 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Joseph Ifiegbu

In this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with Joseph Ifiegbu about futbol, dream jobs and the tool he co-founded that can help HR teams by analyzing their data, eqtble. Prior to eqtble, he garnered extensive experience in the field of analytics. Most recently, as the head of HR Technology at Snap, he implemented best practices for systems architecture and built the foundation and strategy for HR analytics. While leading WeWork’s People Analytics team, he built out the team to support over 15,000 e...

Oct 14, 202150 min

Together Again - Let's Catch Up!

We took a bit of a break because of some personal things- but we will share what those things are of course. But we discuss some heavy topics- grief, therapy tools, seeing folks IRL after covid times, learning, and much, much more. Welcome back!! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would ...

Oct 06, 202151 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Aysha Khoury

In this episode, Katee and Jackye speak to Dr. Aysha Khoury, an esteemed professor who lost her job after being asked to talk about inequities in medical care for people of color. The story is tough to hear but we need to listen and learn what we can do to help bring change. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a lab...

Sep 15, 20211 hr 1 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Helvetikah Blak

In this episode, Jackye and Katee speak with Helvetikah Blak @helvetikahblak , an amazing drag queen! She shares a lot about her journey and how she has finally come into her identity as non-binary and the work she is doing to blend her education and life experiences. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of l...

Sep 09, 202158 minEp. 44

Earning the Trust of Your Employees

In this episode, Katee and Jackye talk about how to earn the trust of your employees. Trust is needed to have diversity, equity, and inclusion conversations that are honest. There has to be mutual trust to have tough conversations and have your employees feel safe about sharing their thoughts and feelings. We share some ideas on how to go about earning trust. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this ...

Sep 01, 202154 minEp. 43

Let's Get Paid, Correctly!

Jackye and Katee talk money in this episode, and water bottles and cough drops. Sexy stuff, we know! The episode digs into how to think about charging for your expertise when you are a speaker, panelist, and/or consultant. Plus what to remember to have in your backpack at all times when you are attending the gig! For event organizers and those seeking experts, we also share some reasons why asking folks to do this work for free isn't okay. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage yo...

Aug 25, 202154 minEp. 42

Puppies & Blizzard(s)

I mean... we both have new puppies so we needed to start off by discussing the fun of our new family members. But then we actually get to workplace harassment and how that is impacting Activision Blizzard. This story is horrific and the impacts on employees will be long-lasting. Listen in to learn more. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: https://www.RateThisPodcast.com/in...

Aug 18, 202159 minEp. 41

Getting Inclusive AF with Wil Shelton

In this episode, Katee flies solo to talk to Wil Shelton, author of "Silent Agreement" which relates the corporate experience for people of color to a boxing ring. The book and the stories from Wil shed some light on the silent agreements that are made at work and why they do not serve people of color. Have a listen! If you'd like to buy the book, go here: https://www.thesilentagreement.com/ Thanks for listening! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our chann...

Aug 11, 202144 minEp. 40

A World Made for Everyone? Not quite...

In this episode, Jackye and Katee explore some of the ways that the world has been designed to exclude way too many people. Cars, medicines, jobs, and so many more have been designed with a male being the first and sometimes only consideration. When half of the world's population is women, that becomes a problem. Listen in to learn more! A few of the examples we use in this episode come from a great book by Caroline Criado Perez, "Invisible Women". We encourage you to read the book to learn even...

Aug 04, 202149 minEp. 39

Inclusion First, Always.

It doesn't matter if you have diversity if folks don't have a voice. If you have an inclusive environment where folks can thrive, you will find diverse candidates. Do you give the right tools to your folks and differentiate between diversity and inclusion or just make them one word? Let's discuss! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We creat...

Jul 29, 202133 minEp. 38

ESPN- Still Not Getting the Point!

In the most recent controversy at ESPN, Erin Nichols and Maria Taylor have been pitted against each other over coverage of the NBA finals. We discuss how ESPN is still missing the point and what should have been done instead. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this ...

Jul 21, 202148 minEp. 37

Underlying, Overarching Theme- Women's Bodies

We continue to see the policing of women's bodies in the workplace. But what if we don't want to smile more? This and other issues come up for women, especially women of color, all the time. How can we create workplaces that are actually inclusive? Katee puts on her HR cardigan and pearls to answer from the company view while not HR Katee and Jackye get real. Enjoy! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rat...

Jul 14, 202153 minEp. 36

Biden's Executive Order Focused On Diversity, Equity Inclusion and Accessibility

President Biden just signed an Executive Order that focuses on Diversity, Equity, Inclusion & Accessibility. It is a clear roadmap of where he wants to focus energy to drive equity in the U.S. government. Jackye and Katee speak about the EO and how this will impact other organizations. It is a must listen! Enjoy! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/...

Jul 07, 202134 minEp. 35
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