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The Inclusive AF Podcast

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Welcome to the Inclusive AF Podcast, your go-to destination for all things DEI, HR, and workplace inclusivity. Hosted by two BFFs with a combined decades of experience in the people space, Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton, this podcast is where candid conversations meet insightful, actionable strategies. Together, they dive deep into the complex (and often messy) world of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, exploring how to build workplaces that are not just diverse, but truly inclusive. Katee is a dynamic Chief People Officer and DEI thought leader at WebPros, dedicated to shaping inclusive corporate cultures that empower underrepresented groups. With expertise in global HR strategy, leadership development, and talent management, Katee brings a wealth of knowledge—and a sense of humor—to every episode. Jackye, a seasoned HR tech and DEI professional, has spent over 15 years driving transformative change in the workplace. A connector at heart, she blends innovation, empathy, and data to craft inclusive work environments that thrive on diverse perspectives. Whether discussing the latest HR trends or sharing stories of workplace triumphs and struggles, Jackye’s unique approach adds a bold, refreshing take to the conversation. Together, Katee and Jackye have built a podcast that is as insightful as it is entertaining, with their signature banter and lighthearted humor making complex topics feel accessible and fun. Expect a mix of practical advice, personal stories, and monthly guest appearances from industry leaders and change-makers. Whether you're an HR professional, a DEI champion, or simply someone passionate about creating better workplaces, Inclusive AF is the podcast that’ll inspire, challenge, and make you laugh. Tune in weekly for a fresh take on creating workplaces where everyone can show up as their true, authentic selves.
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Episodes

Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Rebecca Eldredge - Episode 154

Ready to explore what real inclusion and well-being look like—especially for those doing the heavy lifting on the frontlines of change? On this episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton are joined by Dr. Rebecca Eldridge, a licensed psychologist with 20+ years of expertise in multicultural issues and organizational well-being. Together, they dig into the often-overlooked toll of fighting for equity (especially for Black and Brown women), intergenerational traum...

Jun 16, 202552 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 153

🔥 Welcome to Episode 153 of The Inclusive AF Podcast! 🔥 This week, hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton dive deep into the truths about undocumented workers in the U.S.—and the myths, misinformation, and politicized narratives surrounding them. Did you know undocumented immigrants contribute nearly $97 BILLION in taxes and have $299 BILLION in spending power? We break down the real numbers, the industries that rely on immigrant labor, and the ripple effect on our economy if these workers ar...

Jun 03, 202543 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 152

🎙️ Welcome to Episode 152 of The Inclusive AF Podcast! 🎙️ In this thought-provoking episode, hosts Jackye Clayton (VP of Talent Acquisition and DEIB) and Katee Van Horn dive deep into the current political climate and its direct impact on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives—particularly focusing on law firms' responses to new administrative actions and EEOC investigations. They break down: - What recent government actions mean for DEI practitioners and organizations across indus...

May 21, 202521 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 151

Step into one of the most jaw-dropping conversations of the year! In Episode 151 of The Inclusive AF Podcast, Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn break down the shocking real-life consequences of the 2025 use of the Alien Enemies Act—a law from 1798 that’s suddenly front-page news. What does it mean when centuries-old laws are used against modern-day migrants? Why are Venezuelan asylum seekers being sent to a notorious prison in El Salvador without due process? And how is all of this igniting a ne...

May 10, 202535 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 150

Radical Self-Care for Black Women: Why Rest is a Necessity, Not a Luxury | Inclusive AF Podcast Ep. 150 In episode 150 of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton dive into a raw and powerful discussion that’s long overdue: Black women’s exhaustion and why radical self-care isn’t just a trendy buzzword—it’s an act of resistance and survival. Drawing insights from must-read articles and thinkers like The Root, Hood Communist, The Nap Ministry, Ebony, and more, Katee and J...

May 01, 202532 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Nico Santos - Episode 149

🌈 Welcome to Episode #149 of The Inclusive AF Podcast! 🌈 This week, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn sit down with Nico Santos (he/him), a passionate DEI strategist, communicator, and advocate for organ donation and health equity. Nico shares his inspiring journey from broadcast journalism to leading inclusive change at the Donor Network of Arizona. Together, they dig deep into why representation matters in healthcare, the unique challenges facing communities of color in organ donation,...

Apr 22, 202545 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 148

🌈 Welcome to Episode 148 of The Inclusive AF Podcast! 🌈 Join hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn as they tackle an urgent and serious topic that affects us all: the relentless political and policy actions targeting our transgender community. With their unapologetically inclusive, passionate, and sometimes humorous style, Jackye and Katee dive deep into the effects of these harmful policies on trans folks today, how misinformation impacts the narrative, and what we can do to fight back. 🔍 ...

Apr 08, 20251 hr 1 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 147

In this engaging episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton delve into the significant impact of recent executive orders on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) across various sectors. Join them as they discuss the complexities and challenges surrounding these changes, including the effects on ERGs, the role of federal contracts, and the broader implications for organizations and employees alike. Tune in to hear their expert insights on how to navigate these t...

Mar 27, 202529 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Scott Curran - Episode 146

🌟 Dive into Episode 146 of The Inclusive AF Podcast 🌟 Join us as we sit down with Scott Curran, a corporate attorney and CEO of Beyond Advisors, who is reshaping the landscape of social impact, law, and DEI. Explore how Scott's unique career journey across corporate law, nonprofit leadership, and consulting equips organizations to make a more significant impact. In this insightful conversation, we unpack: ✔️ The importance of focusing on your core and how it can guide you through challenging t...

Mar 13, 202550 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee and Jackye - Episode 145

Join Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn in Episode 145 of The Inclusive AF Podcast as they dive deep into the implications of HR 899, a bill aimed at dismantling the Department of Education in the United States. In this enlightening episode, they discuss the wide-ranging effects it could have on workforce development, corporate training, and marginalized communities. If you're passionate about education, politics, and inclusivity, this episode is a must-listen. Understand how potential changes co...

Mar 06, 202538 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye

Join hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton on this enlightening episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast as they dive into the intricate world of workplace safety and the potential impacts of the controversial NOOSHA Act. Discover why the Occupational Safety and Health Act (OSHA) is crucial for protecting vulnerable workers and how its removal could disproportionately affect marginalized communities. Explore real stories, historical insights, and the ongoing battle between state and federal regulat...

Feb 13, 202525 minEp. 144

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye

Inclusive AF Podcast Ep. 143 - Executive Orders, Civil Rights, and Taking Care of Ourselves in 2025 Welcome back to The Inclusive AF Podcast with your hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! In this episode, we dive deep into the whirlwind of executive orders signed on January 22, 2025, and what they mean for civil rights, the LGBTQ+ community, federal workers, and much more. Join us as we unban our no-cussing rule to express our raw and unfiltered reactions to these major changes. From the con...

Jan 29, 202540 minEp. 143

Getting Inclusive AF with Michael Paciello

Join Us for an Inclusive AF Journey with Michael Paciello! In this episode of "The Inclusive AF Podcast," hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn welcome Michael Paciello, Chief Accessibility Officer at AudioEye, for an insightful discussion on accessibility and inclusivity. From his serendipitous start in accessibility with the National Braille Press to leading technological advances in digital inclusiveness, Michael shares his incredible journey and the evolving landscape of accessibility. Wha...

Dec 11, 202454 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Amberly Dressler and Jaylene Owen

🌟 Welcome to another episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast! This week, hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton are joined by special guests Amberly Dressler and Jaylene Owen to dive into the unique world of HR in remote Alaska. 🌟 🛖 Amberly Dressler, corporate marketing lead at isolved, and Jaylene Owen, the HR Director at Hames Corporation in Sitka, Alaska, share incredible insights on handling HR challenges in rural areas. From the fascinating environment of Mount Edgecumbe Boarding School to ...

Dec 04, 202442 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye

In this episode of "The Inclusive AF Podcast," hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton dive into candid conversations about the current political and social climate. They share personal stories from the tense election period and discuss the emotional and professional challenges of supporting marginalized groups during turbulent times. Join Katee and Jackye as they navigate topics like: - Post-election stress and its effects on personal well-being - The unexpected ways history shapes our perspect...

Nov 20, 202448 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Hannah MacDonald-Dannecker

Join us as we get inclusive AF with Hannah MacDonald-Dannecker, managing partner of Better Together group! 🌍✨ In this compelling episode, Hannah dives deep into the mission behind her company’s staffing and consulting divisions, shares strategies for finding top talent in challenging industries, and offers invaluable advice on overcoming imposter syndrome. Discover the story behind her book, "Well Shit Time to Grow Up," as well as her journey of personal and professional growth during the pande...

Nov 13, 202441 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye (HR Tech)

Welcome to another eye-opening episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast with your hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton! 🎙️ Dive into the world of HR tech, explore the impact of AI biases, and discover the implications of return-to-office mandates. 🤖🏢 In this lively "happy hour edition" recorded live from the HR Tech Conference in Las Vegas, Katee and Jackye share their insightful takes on the latest industry trends, political dynamics, and the intersection of diversity, equity, inclusion, and b...

Oct 30, 202435 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Meggie Palmer

Welcome to the latest episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast! Join host Jackye Clayton as she sits down with the dynamic Meggie Palmer, founder of PepTalkHer, to dive deep into the nuances of workplace inclusivity, self-advocacy, and the gender pay gap. In this episode, you'll learn: - The critical differences between working harder and working smarter. - Effective strategies to communicate your value and impact in salary discussions. - The importance of feedback, especially in remote working envir...

Oct 23, 20241 hr 6 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye

Welcome to another empowering episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast with hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton! 🌍✨ In this episode, Katee and Jackye dive deep into the importance of evolving our beliefs when faced with new information. They reflect on past misconceptions (hello, fat-free diets!) and emphasize the value of continuous learning, especially in diversity work. Hear personal anecdotes, including a humorous mix-up with cold hollandaise sauce, and thought-provoking discussions on the d...

Oct 16, 202440 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Christina Blacken

Title: Getting Inclusive AF with Christina Blacken | The Inclusive AF Podcast Description: Welcome to The Inclusive AF Podcast! In this episode, our dynamic hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn sit down with the inspiring Christina Blacken, founder of The New Quo, to discuss how we can foster curiosity and inclusivity in our daily lives and leadership roles. Christina delves into the concept of moving from a "culture of autopilot" to a "culture of curiosity," emphasizing the importance of ask...

Oct 01, 202449 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye

Welcome to another engaging episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast! 🎙️ In this episode, your hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton dive deep into various issues surrounding diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging (DEIB). 🌍✨ From their admiration for political figures and local reactions to Kamala Harris's visit to Detroit, to humorous discussions about microphone issues and anecdotal tales from around the country, Katee and Jackye keep it real and relatable. You'll also hear about college s...

Sep 19, 202446 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Sheryl Daija

In this insightful episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn sit down with Sheryl Daija, the brilliant founder and CEO of BRIDGE. Discover how Sheryl and her team are revolutionizing Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DE&I) practices across the corporate world. We dive deep into how BRIDGE and the IMAX (Inclusion Maturity Assessment and Capability Building) framework are helping Fortune 500 companies, agencies, media platforms, and brands develop best practi...

Sep 13, 202453 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Brittany S. Hale

Join us for an insightful episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast as we explore the evolving landscape of organizational culture with special guest Brittany S. Hale. Discover how COVID and racial reckoning have impacted workplace dynamics, leadership styles, and the intersection of gender and conflict resolution. Gain valuable insights on DEIB, leadership crisis, conflict management, and the power dynamics within organizations. Plus, enjoy lighthearted banter and personal reflections from our hosts....

Sep 04, 202454 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Lindiwe Davis

NEW EPISODE! Meet our latest guest, Lindiwe Davis. Lindiwe is a multi-talented and multi-passionate individual. She is a founder, business creative, speaker, storyteller, and culture changemaker. As a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Leader, Lindiwe's daytime job in tech allows her to lead strategy and programming intended to educate and build awareness. She also mentors and coaches many professionals, with an additional focus on Black+ women. Lindiwe is known as The Couch Coach. Lindiwe co-crea...

Aug 13, 202452 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Opportunity @ Work

Welcome to the Inclusive AF Podcast! In this episode, we dive into the power of skills-based hiring and the value of non-traditional pathways. Our guests, Natalia Lara, Crystal Zilliox, and Danielle Guadeloupe-Rojas, share their inspiring journeys and advocate for dismantling traditional hiring barriers. From overcoming imposter syndrome to emphasizing transferable skills, they remind us to embrace diversity of thought and experience. Join us as we champion confidence, lifelong learning, and the...

Jul 01, 202454 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Jackye and Katee

🎙️ Get ready to dive deep into the impact of current events on work productivity and democracy with hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn on the latest episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast! From concerns about re-election to shocking workplace incidents, it's an episode packed with thought-provoking discussions. Tune in to gain new perspectives and stay ahead of the curve. Don't miss out! #InclusiveAF #PodcastDiscussion ✨

Jun 11, 202441 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Shannon and Tracey

🌟 Welcome to the "Inclusive AF" Podcast hosted by Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! 🎙️ Join us as we welcome Shannon Lucas and Tracy Lovejoy, catalyst leaders driving positive change in organizations and the power of inclusivity in the workplace. In this episode, we explore the impact of neurodiversity, emotional intelligence, and the importance of adaptability in creating a more inclusive environment. Don't miss out on our engaging conversations and personal anecdotes that will inspire you t...

May 27, 202451 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Jackye and Katee

Welcome back to The Inclusive AF Podcast, where hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn dive into thought-provoking discussions about important social issues. In this episode, they explore the intersection of religion, kindness, and societal labels, while expressing frustration with unnecessary difficulties faced by individuals. The hosts also discuss concerns about safety, societal attitudes towards rights and discrimination, and the impact of entertainment choices on viewers' perceptions. Addi...

May 16, 202439 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Meaghan Walls

In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton engage in an insightful and thought-provoking conversation with Meaghan Walls, an expert in disability inclusion. The discussion centers around the importance of informed decision-making in acquiring assistive technology, the impact of accommodations in the workplace, and the need to shift the corporate mindset surrounding accommodations. Meaghan Walls provides valuable insights into removing barriers to partici...

May 01, 202449 min

Getting Inclusive AF with Dan Harr

Welcome to The Inclusive AF Podcast, where we discuss all things diversity, equity, and inclusion in the workplace. In this episode titled "Getting Inclusive AF with Dan Harr," hosts Katie Van Horn and Jackye Clayton are joined by special guest Dan Harr, a diverse equity inclusion professional and ERG strategist. Together, they delve into the challenges and opportunities surrounding Employee Resource Groups (ERGs) and the impact of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) efforts in businesses. Da...

Apr 24, 202449 min
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