¶ Intro / Opening
Hi everyone and welcome to episode 232 of the InKicksWeTrust podcast.
¶ Welcome to InKicksWeTrust
I am here with two-fifths of the InKicksWeTrust team. Rich, how's it going? What's good? Surprise, surprise. Still just the two of us. We're recording 24 hours after 2.31. So it's, uh, I'm sorry guys, but wares are going to be extremely short this episode.
So we are counting on our guest today so we're joined by seth sells, appreciate you joining us seth uh yeah uh rich has bought a couple pairs off you i believe right yeah yeah yeah i have yes sir you uh you're the one that helps feed his addiction right yeah i try my best i'm trying my best, oh dope definitely excited to hear how you got into it and uh excited for you to carry our wares and pickup section yeah i'll try my best with that one too.
All right so as i said we're going to begin with our very short wares and pickup segment so everyone hold your breath it was one pair that i wore in the last 24 hours and it was the air max, 97b side so that was my only wear for the last 24 hours and i've been good in the last 24 hours and have not picked anything up. What year did that B-side come out? Ooh. Let me tell you. I think it was 2015? No. Okay, so the tag says 2018. April 2018, so probably 2017.
2019. 2019, probably something like that.
I'm trying to think, when did the Silver Bullets come out? So they obviously came out Well when they retroed them a couple times Yes so they retroed them in 23 I want to say I thought it was 22 Something like that and then I think Before that it was 2015, 2016 maybe No. 2022 And the previous one is 16-17 Yeah yeah around that time yes because they did it twice yeah that's right, so yeah it would have been a little bit maybe a year or so after that Rich yeah
because the first go they did the 2016 or whatever that time was that was that was hot that's what they were they did the sorry the gold pair yep and then the silver bullet which was yep, Yeah, that's crazy. The women's pairs always end up in my elderly mall now, of the silver bullets and the gold. Sitting at my elderly mall with no lid on the wall. Yep, I've seen the gold ones there a couple times. Pretty crazy. I remember idolizing that shoe a few years ago.
I remember sleeping on the silver bullet and then running it and not being able to find a good pair. Because at that point, they were like $500-$600 new, which was crazy.
And the used pairs were used like they were really yeah because people were wearing them yeah and wore the hell out of them people were actually wearing them I remember the gold pair I actually paid, for the first like that first retro when they came back with the silver bullets I paid fuck I think like 300 for the gold pair which is nuts and then the silver bullet I think I got for retail, but yeah different times and it's funny when they retro'd them no one got them
no one cared man no one cared So, all right, Trev, well, good stuff Great 24 hours?
Good 24, man Thank you All right, Seth, please Please help carry this section a little bit Let's at least hear a couple wears, I'll give you guys a couple So today, I normally Wear these Air Maxes, they're called Torch Forts, I don't know If you guys know what they are, actually, But I've been They've been selling pretty well for me As well, It's like It's a cheap Air Max Really comfortable Easy wears Sounds like a hundred
bucks Yeah I remember this shoe Yeah yeah I wear them pretty often You know I went to the gym and stuff, yesterday what i wear yesterday busted out a pair of vapes does actually nice some vapes does don't know the colorway name honestly i bought them from one of the mississauga shops, and it's like a multi-color patent so i know something a little flashy i usually just i have a lot of flashy shoes but i don't wear them like that anymore but sometimes i'll bust them out, you know?
Nice. Love the bases. Yeah, great pair. And any pickups for you recently, Seth? Not for myself, but for the business every day. Every day. What have you grabbed recently? Like some nice ones, some gems. What have you scooped out recently? I know you stay... You guys, man, like you young guys, I got to give it to y'all, man. Y'all on the ball when it comes to just the restocks and the stories.
And man, it's thrilling. You know what I mean? It's bad though for me because then I see something and I'm like, I'm kind of scooping, but it's always nice to kind of see the pairs you guys come across. Like, I think for me, that's why I like it. Because sometimes you get some gems, like, in there. So, what are some of the your recent pickups? I got both of the Bruce Lee Kobe's. So, I got the Kobe 5 Alternates.
And I got, unfortunately, I don't have the yellow ones right now but I got the Kobe 11 Bruce Lee not the 5 so those two were good recent pickups for me, Also got, like, the Travis Air Forces. Not the sales or the AF-100. Oh, that blue one? Yeah, the Cactus Jack. Got, like, all the colors.
¶ Wares and Pickups
How do you guys feel about those ones? What size? That right there tells you how I feel about it. I don't know how much I like them, to be honest. I like that pair. But I don't. I like that pair. Just something about it. I don't know. I like them. I like them. Yeah? Yeah, I like them.
I like them. Nice. what size are they eight i gotta pay you man if i get it if i get a 10 though let me know holla at me i'll let you know do you guys know the n7 yes yep i got the black and white ones so actually i got a funny little story about those ones i bought a ton of them for retail they somehow ended up at my local nike we ended up grabbing like 50 pairs of them oh yeah they were just going the same day. When they dropped, I didn't even know what they were, to be honest.
I just saw an SB on the wall, and I was like, why are these here? And we just ended up splurging on them, and they're good for us. Nice. Yeah, it's a few of the pickups. Nothing too, too heat, but... Nah, that's a solid line up there. Can't be mad at that. Nope. Hey, good week. Some good pickups. The Kobe Bruce Lee's, nice Yeah, the Kobe Bruce Lee's are pretty sick Yeah, it's a great pair Oh Nice, good week Seth And Rich, what about you? 24 hours Yeah, what did you rob in the last 24 hours?
I wore that For sure I do, courtesy of Seth So it's only right, Today I wore the Air Force One That little Yachty pair, the concrete boys No doubt yeah she also really honestly very simple but i always say with an air force one you cannot go wrong with an all white uppers with the colored bottom right that could be anything right so i love that combo that he did so i wore those today and then the ray gun air force ones which is that my active door pair so i want to assume in the
24 hours very nice and crocs on top of that Three. Nice. I got three more shoes in the last 24 hours than I have in the last three days. Yeah, man. Sounds about right. I usually do like two to three for sure per day. So today is one of those days. Yeah, man. So I got to just the shoes I'm wearing out. Maybe some slides for five minutes. Yeah. So that's about it.
Nice nice yeah so those are my that was my wear 24 hour wear pretty damn good yeah not bad man and then pickup like i said courtesy of the homie this is a pair i talked about each other kind of, no it's still a pickup i guess swapped it out for a ds pair a pair that i already had but when i seen when i seen the price i was just like i couldn't i could not not pass it up but ended up getting a set the homie seth helped me out yeah there union twos the ratten pair, so yeah great price so it's
crazy what they're going for man yeah we talked about it i bought them for retail uh shout out to only mark mark got a pair of him like probably like a year and a half ago for retail and then now like i said that it's dropped in you know seth had these listed at 140 ds so it's a no-brainer yeah yeah no no-brainer man I love this pair such a dope pair.
And yeah so appreciate you man no worries man I think they're very wearable pair as well like it is go with a lot a lot of shit very neutral I think that's what I like about it sleep on the twos man that's what it is I love people sleep people sleep on the twos but I like the two I loved you I loved the Jordan 2 man so hold that up again that's what like basically a gray like mostly gray shoe, it's like a green tan it's like a tan okay like a tannish gray like the the new book
is like a like a dark like tan looks almost gray okay and then that's like a light tan gosh okay yeah it's showing up a little gray on the camera but yeah like very wearable regardless yeah yeah there's neutral right like it's a neutral color like you can you can wear it with and you can couple it with anything so i think that's what i like about it and if you want a little hit you throw on the yellow laces. Oh, and the yellow laces. You want it to pop.
Yup. So like, for me, it's just one of those shoes. Like it's just, it's an easy wear. It goes with everything. At that price point, it's just, like I said, sneakers nowadays is just to kind of see what shit's going for. It's just insane. So yeah, Seth, if you ever come up on that gray pair, holla at me. The blue and gray? The blue and gray. Yeah. I'll let you know. I'll take those two, man. But yeah, that was my day.
Not even week. That was my day. Now, have we caught up on all your pickups, Fritz? No. Y'all got to wait a while we have not we have not, but yeah man yo Seth we're joined by the homie Seth let's get into it man Trev yesterday no Trev no no put it on I did the legwork if today's you I'm giving it back to you and passing back the mantle.
I'm just fucking with you Trevor you're gonna go grab a snack I can take over you're on mute probably not beyond you yeah that would help uh no i'm good i'm good rich so seth tell us about where your sneaker journey began and uh what were some of the favorite brands models and colorways that got you into sneakers so what got me into sneakers the shoe itself would actually be the easy 350s so i was about 10 years old when the 350s came out originally.
So that's the pirate blacks i was i love those ones but what really got me into it was when the v2s dropped and they came out with the creams and then i don't know if you remember the zebras were like oh yeah that was like oh yeah now they're regular traffic but that used to be just that was the shoe for me right so it got me into it and then i started selling shoes basically to try to stack up to get a pair of those honestly so started flipping my old shoes that i
wore in elementary school and then it was just like some vans and stuff like that would go to all my play dos closets that's really where it all started and then just kind of picked up gradually over time nice i mean man that's crazy to push your perspective you were 10 years old when those dropped yeah oh my gosh it's funny because i remember we had we actually attended the sneaker show uh shout out to soul exchange yeah we mean that year i believe it was in toronto and
actually that the day he had the show was when those pirate blacks dropped. And I remember dudes just coming to the show later on with them, like, just tons. And that was just when that 350 wave was just insane. You remember that show, Trev? Oh, yeah. Yeah, shout out to the homie Will. I think Will had, like, two pairs. Yeah. He rolled up with, but they dropped that day. So, of course, people were going out to get those and then bringing them back to the show.
It was, like, honestly, it was probably the best thing you could ask for, like, for a shoe like that to drop during a sneaker show. and guaranteed you're making your money off of that. It was such a unique shoe at the time.
¶ Sneaker Journeys
I don't personally love the Yeezys, but I remember when the Zebras dropped, I'm like, this is such a unique color or pattern on a shoe. It's like the Jordan 3 black... Sorry, let's just say the cement pattern on a Jordan. It's that kind of unique thing that really had never been done before. Yeah, it's like a staple. Yeah, 100%. That's the only Yeezy. I can't remember which one it's called, but I think it's the sesame, the all black upper with the gum bottom.
I might be wrong with the name. All black upper with the gum bottom? That'd be the cinder. The cinder, okay. The cinder? Yeah. Those two are the only ones that I've ever liked. Those are nice, but that zebra always, always piqued my attention. For me, it was the, for me, it was the, was it the beluga?
The gray. with the one straight yes that was to me that's number one for me that beluga pair was dope yeah yeah i i thought like i said i couldn't wear it but in terms of everybody wearing that like that pair to me was was pretty sick yeah and then i think followed up by the zebra yeah it would be would be number two uh yeah i just i just saying as i said it's funny like for you to say you were 10 years old and i remember like we're we're at a sneaker
show i was working a foot locker when those drop like I remember getting them in store. Yeah, just insane, man. But yeah, I mean, you know what? I think for your age, too, that makes sense in terms of that particular issue. And I think it's nice to kind of hear that because it's a bit different than what we usually hear. So for you to say a 350, which, you know, fuck, that shit had a chokehold on the game, that particular model, man. So you got to kind of give it as just do.
So it's just kind of crazy to think, yeah, when that released you were 10 and, try to get that and the resale was crazy like at the time, back then it was like I remember my cousin would always send me these links to like these scam websites and he's like you think these ones are real you think these ones are real I'm like man I don't know, why would it be real yeah definitely not it not it.
Didn't Kev have a crazy trade for that shoe yeah it's for the zebras it was the zebras he traded for because zebras were going money man i i've seen dudes do some crazy shit for those for those zebras man like some of the trades to me were insane and for it now you look at the zebra now which is like a fucking gr right like it's a pair that it's it's just regular so for those guys we used to always kind of poke fun at it like man because i seen dudes give up some wild shit for those zebras,
but kev had a stupid trade and i can't even remember what it was but it was insane i think he got a pair plus like 500 cash or on the 97 ones or the atmos air max ones it was the atmos cash it was atmos cash it was atmos yeah now that i remember it was the outmost almost air max one plus cash for a zebra easy insane insane insane, insane not as dope though i think that's a different perspective for sure so i think that's nice nice to kind of hear
that that was kind of the particular shoe for like your entry level well and that kind of leads us into our next that's right go ahead i think most people start with jordans as well yes i think that's so like i wouldn't i didn't gravitate towards the jordans. Until shoot maybe like 2019 28 no 2018 for sure because i bought the concords when they came out.
Okay yeah like my first big clip like i was like my first like shoe that was like a couple hundred bucks i'm like okay like i got a little bit of something to my name i guess let me buy this for retail wait it out and that's where i made my first little bit on those well so i kind of leads into my next question nicely yeah like what was it like growing up so you talked about the yeezys like what was it like growing up in terms of sneakers at that time because that's kind of like after mine
and rich time which is yeah usually i'm the youngest on this podcast so this is this is a this is a refreshing feeling for me yeah what was that like for you growing up in like so that would have been what the mid to late 2010s like i guess actually late to late 2010s was like when i was like really diving into it it was all about boost honest to god boost was going crazy i remember my i bought my first pair of ultra boost because i didn't have money for the yeezys so i
had a pair of red uncaged ultra boosts i'd wear like every day yeah i remember those yeah and i i love those i actually now i have multiple ultra like i wear them to the gym i wear like they're they're honestly great shoes like 100 them in the 350s i don't think i've tried on anything more comfortable than either of them personally i'd say but nmds nmds were big oh yeah these are big yeah yeah.
Yeah that's that's mostly what i was like really into when it started out for me which is crazy yeah i remember that phase and being like and rich kind of alluded to it but you know there was a point where people were selling their entire sneaker collections to collect like boost and yeah all that kind of stuff and it's kind of crazy like that that's what you like grew up in because it's so different from what we experienced growing up in sneakers but that's really
cool here actually there's a short stint too very short see like i feel like anybody who came after me would, it wouldn't be anything to do with adidas already and then anything before it would not have to do with adidas either it'd probably be like like i know that like you got probably like phone posits is probably big around that time though or right the air max is like yes sir yeah then you got like there really like i can still appreciate those
i wasn't around for it but like i got my 2012 thunder force i love those ones those i remember watching youtube on those that was like a grail of mine like the i don't know yeah like the new ones that came out i can't like them the same and that made me feel like like damn like i'm too young to like be be thinking like this i guess but i don't know i don't like them the yellow's too bold you know what i mean it's more flat on the 2012 day.
It comes at you quick, brother. It comes at you quick. Yo, I'm about to say, man, the story of our lives, man. There you go. So, like, yo, it's cool to hear that, though, because, like I said, for a younger guy, you're saying, like, the 2012 compared to, like, the new one, it's a night and day, right? And that's kind of our sentiment, too, right? Like, a lot of those older retros compared to, like, when they re-release them, it just don't hit the scene.
You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, look at Military Blue. That's another one. Military blue used to be a grail now it's the gr of the gr yes i actually can't i actually can't be bothered with them anymore like i remember i was i was so excited to get up there and then they dropped i'm just like wow like i don't even want these anymore i sold the pair i bought for myself that's crazy wow yeah i think i sold for like 10 over retail like they break, yeah those did not do well so.
Yeah that's crazy so it started off with adidas it started off with boost craze and the yeah so what does it look like now for you kind of you're what we're eight years removed from that kind of time frame yeah eight years like what is your what does your current collection look like now so a lot of adidas or honestly it's a mix of everything hold on let me see if i can get my camera on to show you guys a few things oh oh there we go okay so hold on hold on i'll show you guys it's like
it's like a mix of everything so i got some like cheap heat like i got my union ones like not not the like the expensive ones when i say cheap like i really like this shoe the besties yeah these these i think went super slept on like the creativity through like this is like a glove almost right like it's just the creativity i love stuff that's just like unique and different, and then i got some some other stuff too like like i do got jordan's and stuff you know
i came up through adidas like i got like the supreme fives the camo nice my favorite one that's my favorite one out of that pack yeah and then i got this is an older shoe too man i got this so rich is from hamilton you slept on this one man i can't lie i got these, turn my brain and stuff oh the these are at. Plato's Closet Hamilton man shut the fuck up I swear to god $200 what out of myself swear.
And I thought they looked good but like it was Plato's Closet so I had to double check and everything I threw them on like four apps, and they they checked out so that's crazy that was one of my favorite come ups right there for sure dorm becker ate that plato's closet yeah tell me man sometimes stuff hits there no i've been in there your plato's is good man like i've been here is not it but it's good which one the one on rimel yeah it's the one on rimel oh man i've got i'd be popping in it too
i'd be popping in the stuff in there like i use it when i used to like sell clothing so i used to like dive into the clothes and stuff too like they would often have like stussy stuff like that like that would all sell very well back then too so that's crazy but then i got like my little hype b stuff so yeah i gotta have that yeah yeah i've my story for that one i traded speed trainer balenciaga plus like 80 bucks ago because back then that was when like speed trainers were hot and
those are like an $800,000 shoe. So, then I recently picked up this. Ah, UNC. Recently. So, I used to have a pair. So, for the listeners, the Travis pair we were talking about is that Travis Lowe. Yeah, the original Lowe. The original Lowe. Original Lowe.
¶ Guest Insights
And then Seth is showing us the UNC Jordan 1, Off-Way 1. And you said that one's recent? This one's recent because I had a pair before.
And honestly i love the shoes so much i was scared to wear them the first time i had i i was one of those i just didn't wear i wore i think once in two years i had it that's crazy and then honestly like i just i basically sold them to someone who like a wealthy guy who doesn't know anything about shoes like he was just trying to i got i got a lot of money so then i i couldn't say no to it like let him go finally got him back so nice are you gonna wear them now i've already
wore man i've worn them the day they the day i got them that's the day i got them right and then i actually got the zip tie from adam from another pair nice the same shoe so shout out to the homie that says yeah shout out to the homie i said i sent him a picture that day and i said i said look Like, I already got him on. I told you I'd wear it. And then he goes, nice. It looks stupid. He doesn't like the zip size. Yeah. That guy's awesome, though. Shout out to him. Yeah.
Then my grail of grails, I finally got. You guys know Heat Check, Toronto? Yep. I heard of him. Yeah, so my buddy Jay, he gave me a good deal on this. We actually played. We gambled a little bit on it. We played a game of ping pong. Okay. And I got these right here. I thought I saw those in your hand. I saw you peeking. I thought that's what I saw in your hand. That's the pure platinum Yeezy, right? Yeezy too.
Mint condition. Very, very clean. I'm yet to bust them out, but I do wear them a little bit in the house because you don't want to mess up that bit. You got to keep them there so fresh. You got to keep them there so fresh. Yes sir can't let it break right so i don't know this i'll probably bust out at like. Maybe a sneaker event coming soon. I don't know, man. I'm about to say, yeah, we got solar exchanges coming up.
Solar exchanges coming up. We're planning big for that one. So maybe I'll bust these out. Got it, man. Got to remind them. You don't see those often, too, right? No, I've never. So I've had the Solars before. Not my size. I flipped the Solars before. I haven't had these until now. And I've had Red Octobers, but, like, they weren't mine kind of thing. Like I was like selling them for someone. I middle manned it. But that's how I had it in hand. Like, like that. So.
Oh, like, and, and you don't see those very often, right? No, no. Mid-Soul's in good condition still. Great. Like, perfect. So it's like, I have the box. I have the box too. I got the box too. Yeah. Just keep, keep wearing them around the house. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Just want to keep putting pressure on. I know. That's an expensive. that's an expensive factor that anything goes wrong. So yeah, worth it though. Worth it. If you, yeah, if you, most worth it. Yeah.
Yeah. The, the restore is worth it for that pair. Like to restore that pair. It might, honestly, it might already be restored. That wouldn't surprise me. Uh, that didn't mean like, I don't know. Like the Mitchell's not even like soft at all. Like it's perfect. And maybe they did. Yeah. Because of that, Cause for that year too, that, that, uh, that, uh, the, that air bubble would be cloudy, man. Yeah. Yeah so it probably is fuck even better.
I'm not flipping I'm never flipping these in my life I'd rather it that way to be honest last me longer until I gotta do it again that's what's up, so you showed us a few that you got in the collection yeah impressive, is there anything you could still be possibly on the hunt for, Honestly, I got a lot of designer stuff as well. I like the unique stuff, as I said.
¶ Building a Collection
So a shoe that I am on the hunt for, if anyone comes across it, I want Balenciaga Defenders. So it's like the chunky, higher-looking shoe. I really like those. I've tried on a pair once, and they, bro, they just hug your feet, man. Like, it's like they're so soft. They're like a big, chunky clout.
So black pair of those. What's the tag on that? man it's like 1600 retail so like i'm not trying to yeah i'm trying to drop that but closer to 17 actually yeah taxes i looked it up right now yeah and i'm not paying all that for those so i don't know balenciaga designer stuff like that you can always like hunt and wait for the deals on like ebay grail too but grail the scary one because they're not doing shit if it comes back fake fake to be honest so like it's
not good i'd stick i'd stick to ebay unless you really know your shit and you can like see your first hand that's about it to be honest.
Because ebay will authenticate it on the way to you still regardless if it's used or not right so like i got the what do they call i think they're just called runners i got the balenciaga runners from them and it was like retailed like 16 i think i paid 500 bucks so like my bad third of retail right there right so can't go wrong with that oh dope yeah i don't know if there's any more jordans i'm on the halfway though or anything like that to be honest or anything at all like any
any adidas's or anything like that that you're really on the like you know what i'd maybe buy a pair of zebras again i'd maybe buy a pair of zebras i have the cream still but I sold my zebras because I was young when I had them so I was still growing so I actually grew out of them. And now I could use another pig so maybe I'm due for it I don't know maybe I'm due, Nice. J Balvin 2s. I forgot about it. I need the J Balvin 2s. My buddy Tassim. Tassim's got those.
I'm waiting for him to drop the price for me, though. I'm waiting for him. We'll see how that goes. That's a nice pair, too. I sold off my 2s to buy the 2s. I got Jordan 1 to 13. I need the 2s and a 14. I'm happy with what I got. So, that's what I need in there. What 14? Any 14 will do, or what 14? No, no, I got to like the shoe. I really like the Doinbecker 14. Honestly, that's a crazy one right there. But I don't know. I'm not really sure which 14, like, got me on StockX right now.
Last shots. I was going to say last shots. I like those but like i don't know i don't wear like if i'm wearing something like that's like monotone colors like not monotone like simple colors yeah i probably i probably won't wear a joy and i'll probably wear something comfy yeah unless it's like unless it's like like i got like the bread ones like the bands yeah that i'll wear right because it's like that shoe was also like that's another staple like i really wanted that suit right so that's why
it's different to me there was no 14s i grew up wanting in all honesty i just wanted to complete the set in my eyes from a collective standpoint but, I mean, the Toros are cool, though. I like the Toros. I like the Ferraris. I probably won't keep the Ferraris, though, because they just go for too much, man. Like, I mean, honestly, I don't like it enough to keep it for its price. And they're dropping next month, though. Are you guys getting those?
Yeah, because those are coming back out, the Ferraris, right? Yeah. June 11th or something? Nah, it's just for me. For me, when it comes to 14s, to be honest, I just stick with the OG colors. I could appreciate some of the other stuff, but if I was to have it, I have the last shot, 14, from 2005, which to me is probably the best retro, just in terms of quality and shit like that. Outside of that... I've sold a few of those. They did feel really good.
The sides were buttery and the suede on the toe. The velvet liner in the inside and that leather is just just such a great i honestly it's funny too shout out who did i get them from i think it was from netmag but i bought them and honestly i wore them once i love the shoes so much like i just don't want to wear them like i don't wear them just because like the quality of that shoe is so good i just i have no desire but it's one of those pairs and the last shot 14 is my favorite short of 14.
So, and then that particular year. So they're kind of... They're there, man. No. No, but that's dope. Yeah, the Ferraris, no. I like them, but I think... What are your thoughts on the all-red? I think the all-red wave is, like, done. The all-red? Yeah, remember, like, how, like, all-red shoes... I heard you guys talk about Nigel when I hopped in, you know. I heard you guys talk about it. I really like the Nigel.
Like, that was a shoot like i don't i don't go for releases for myself anymore that one i did like the brick the brick by brick yeah the brick by brick i really like i don't know if i like them more than his other collabs though like i really like the green grandma's driveway i still want those those are beautiful honestly all red like. I don't think I own any all-red shoes. It's like... I'm just saying, there was a time where all-red shoes were just like... It was a thing, right?
Your red Octobers, the Ferraris, those 14s. Anything that was all-red, we just went nuts for it. I remember the Jordan 9. I don't know if you remember the Kilroy pack where they had... Yeah, I just sold one of the Kilroy's the other day, the black and silver ones. The black and silver ones, yeah. And then they had the all-red pair. That shit went for stupid money and it's because it was part of that wave where that all red.
That tour on Jordan 4 same thing like go for money so the labs too, the labs Jordan 4 those as well so just yeah it wants to kind of get your take just like on that like in terms of that's why I thought like with the Ferraris coming back I mean I was never into that shoe but, I don't know people would probably they're nice i might i might get those ones for like my dad or something it's right before father's day you know there you go like it's it's
it is a really nice shoe i just don't think i'd wear myself yeah i don't think i'd get that's the one thing i always try to do with the shoes i buy i want to make sure i wear everything or why am i buying it for the most part like as much as i am don't get it twisted. I collect. I'm a sneaker horde for sure.
¶ The Reselling Business
But I make sure I wear everything. I have a lot of shoes, but they all get thrown in the rotation once in a while. I got my dairies, of course, the Torch Boards. I wear them more than any other shoe I've bought since I've had them. But anytime I try to throw on a fit together, I'll pick something off the shelf. Something. man. Dope. All right, man. Good shit. Didn't expect all that. Yeah. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie, man. Pulling out some heaters. Yeah, for sure.
Well, it's the reason I started, so I thought maybe I'll cheat myself along the way, right? Ain't nothing wrong with that. Gotta pay my dues. That's it. Some great pairs. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. So how about you tell us a little bit about your business? How did you kind of start getting into the business of selling sneakers? It was because of buying shoes for myself entirely. So like I said, I want a zebra.
Honestly, there's no reason I started it. I was just trying to buy myself a pair of zebras. And then it became like other shoes along the way too, like the Bordeaux 12s. I was still a kid when the Bordeaux 12s came out of the locker. I really wanted those.
And the reverse taxi the black and gold wanted both i really wanted both of those when they came out i used to be a big 12s kid but that's where it all started and then from there i was just i had a few like big flips and i'm just like this this could like this could be something right like maybe like i don't know maybe i could make something out of it because i was never like trying to like i didn't think i was even going to be in the position i am today to
just be flipping shoes on a day like that like i wasn't it wasn't my goal even as a kid i was deep into soccer so that's that's that's the route that like i was like always planning on taking and then, towards the end of high school like i was just on it like every day selling shoes selling shoes selling shoes i'm like nah like this is it this is what i want to do so from there then i started taking it super seriously like over like last couple few years but before that it was
very casual very much so just me trying to get the pairs i want to get and then get by with paying for things so i can like still play soccer when i want to as well like i don't have a job where like i have to be somewhere during a set period of time and it can take away from my time on the field right so it was very much so like just me trying to balance both. Okay, so like, so the Yeezys essentially was the catalyst. Yeah, it really was.
That's pretty cool too. Like, I mean, just for it to kind of snowball into that, like a shoe you wanted kind of is the, I guess, almost a driving force for you
getting into reselling. Yeah. Which is like, because, you know, we've heard stories like about resellers and, you know, we had them on and it's almost like, obviously they're interested in shoes, but then it was like you know i want to make some money and you know kind of kind of going that route but for you it's like no like i was trying to get this so i would get this and then yeah it was, solely for my own shoes that was the sole purpose of it because i was like to be fair though like i was
starting in elementary school like i didn't care for money like that like i just wanted things that i saw i guess i didn't understand i didn't understand it and then i got to like i was probably in grade eight where i was was it great yeah when the concourse dropped right and then like i'm not even processing like i bought two i bought two shoes on release that day.
Maybe it was two or three well i don't remember but i spent every dollar i had every dollar like every dollar i had at the time i went into that and then i made some money off that and then i was like it's like same day flip i was like where did where did this just come from right so i don't know that's kind of how it came up and then it just snowballed like i never put any outside money into the business it all came from like like if you guys know what vans atwood
are that's a shoe i wore growing up it was those i had like some nike runners like it was genuinely it genuinely all started with like flipping my own old stuff to play-doh's closet and then just thrifting the stuff like i got like i remember i got gucci slides at goodwill like back when those are hot like the striped ones those used to be hot those used to be hot i got the white ones with the wet bottom so it was like the ones at the bottom that sticks out a little bit i had those and i i paid
22 dollars i still remember i paid 22 dollars for them and i sold them on bump i don't know if you guys would remember what bump is you guys ever used it bulk was an app that i always use the flip shoes and i think it sold for like 144 us that's crazy so stuff like that is definitely where like it it was big because i put such little money into those shoes and. Then i was able to lead with a big sum even if it would take a long time I didn't.
Have a lot so like when it would hit that would be like everything I got right there like it'd be like everything I have. So that's, that's cool. Like, I mean, cause you were able to like take what you had and like slip it and turn it into other pairs of shoes. Right. It's funny. You're talking about some of those pairs you're talking about. Like you're literally talking about what we used to sell at Foot Locker. I posted a picture in the chat, the Vans Atwood.
We used to sell that religiously at the world. Like that was huge for us. Like we didn't have old schools for years. Um, this was, this was what we sold the Atwood. Yeah. The Atwood. I had the gray and blue Atwood.
Yeah. like with the white missile gum bottom i still remember those to this day that was i like that shoe a lot i don't like i don't know why now but like it's cool like i wouldn't wear them today but i liked them a lot back then and definitely a lot of nostalgia behind that one a lot of nostalgia yeah so and now what's kind of changed from when you first started and like to now obviously because now you have a little bit more invested maybe
not monetary wise but you have more invested in the business than you did kind of when you started out yeah that is a lot different now honestly like it completely started with me just wanting the shoes and then now i look at most shoes are just units to me nowadays because you see everything so much like nothing special unless it's like a yeezy two or like an off-white unc or the travis right like those are still like i'm not at the point where i come by those
like on a daily basis or often like no like not many people do right but where i've been making most of my money honestly is the bricks it's the cheap stuff that's where most of my money has been coming from nowadays so like dunks retails 150 dollars 170 after tax i sell panda dunks for under like 100 bucks come for 90 bucks brand new. Right? And I've seen that. Yeah. Like I paid, I paid like 70 bucks. I'm only making like 20 a pop.
But if you look at the return on investment, it's like around 30%. Like it's, it's there. So like if someone's buying like $150 shoe and they're flipping it for 190 bucks, it's pretty similar.
So if I can move that many pandas like that, but then the same time someone's doing that, it's actually working out better on my end so that's where i've like put a lot of my focus into and then it also helps because your audience my audience is bigger that way so i try to keep a little bit of everything so like if i got like a 700 shoe they're like the guys who know they they know but then i have the 70 shoes for the people who just want to look fresh right they
don't care about the sneakers but they might not return as much as the people who spend big but they'll go tell their friend these are only 70 bucks here they're 170 at footlocker they'll tell them so.
That's where a lot of it came from that was dope yeah like and i mean honestly like those those customers are probably going to come back to you for simple stuff like panda dunks and all that kind of stuff right because like that's the like you know it's everyone thinks of like sneakers being this thing where it's like you want the sneaker head to be like interested in coming to shop but it's not always the sneaker head that's interested in going to shop for
some of those things right sometimes it's something like you know it's a regular consumer a regular consumer it's just a guy who wants a pair of generic dunks right just something that he can wear around all the time vice versa it could be just a female who wants you know like what i'm gonna say especially with the ladies too because to them they don't know the difference between like a lot of them not all a lot of them
they don't they don't know the difference between the models they don't understand that like, that's hype because they don't care. Why would they? Like if you don't cool, you don't care. Like no judging out here. Like I, I care personally. Yeah. No, you don't have to care. Everybody has their own interest. If they're not interested in it, but they see that they can save like half the money. They're going to save half the money with no hesitation.
Yeah. So that's where a lot of it comes from. Like sometimes like I've even been hit with like run ladies because they'll see like the same shoe on foot locker.
Like I said, for like double the price and they'll be like super hesitant think i'm gonna scam them or something but like it all ends up working out after and they get like super surprised they're like oh my god they're legit like thank you like all that so it's pretty good to hear that too because you're like helping people out in a way again oh that's dope like and that and that's exactly what i was about to say too was that like you know there are
some ladies that just they're looking for whatever is popular right like they want they want the dunk the samba the samba the big one at one point it was the stan smiths and the superstars and white white air forces and you know whatever that popular issue is the white air force was a trend one that was that was yeah that was a hot one but that that's what they're looking for right so they just like they just want that pair right so uh no that's dope like that's that's
an awesome way to to kind of evolve your business and how it's like moves forward yeah it's a lot more work that way it is a lot more work because you have to focus on pushing out units versus pushing out margins.
But that's just i personally think that's how reselling has adapted it's a lot different game than it used to be a lot of stuff is going for under retail so now you need to find your ways and getting stuff under ETA and finding new deals whether it's within Foot Lockers Nikes you gotta work some magic somehow if you're gonna make some margins right so it's huge right there, That's dope. I love to hear that. Yeah, I think that's great because it helps
to evolve your business because it's not all about the big ticket items, right? Yeah. There's not as many big ticket items nowadays either because from the new releases, the Nigels are going for crazy money. But I can't... What other shoes as of late?
Like soccer cleats i don't know if you've seen that the phantoms yep they were very selling for like six seven hundred bucks but like it's see it's very like niche items like like a jordan like a military blue that came out not like a year ago they're not going for anything like anything i sell them around retail so for a shoe that was like six hundred dollars a few years ago on the 2012s right now it's it's changed it's a lot different so i how i look at it is volume not
margins that's that's the way i go about my business now it used to be the opposite, that's dope and i think that's a that's a good way to look at it right. So i'm i'm reading here so you've got your ig shop obviously and how's it evolved kind of what it is today so i'm if i'm reading this right you're you're located in niagara roughly yeah Yeah, Niagara. So how did you kind of build that brand and that it goes from just Niagara to kind of all across Canada?
I'd say events played a big factor, like Soul Exchange, Sneaker Condos. Man, we need more of those. I'm happy that they're bringing us all exchange back. Those are huge. It brings everybody who's interested in it together. Not only that, all the sellers are able to work with each other. We're all able to see each other face to face. This is the guy who's sending me. I know I can send you the money. I know you. You know what I mean? I know I can send you the money. No hesitation, no worries.
Because there are scams still, right? Scams still happen. I think that helps.
¶ Sneaker Events and Networking
Avoid that as well so but i think because of that like the events we've always had tables we always do our best at events like we try our best like this year at solo exchange we have multiple multiple multiple tables like we just want we want to bring a game and it's not all about what we take in profit wise numbers wise everything because the whole point of those advance you want to just not work like crazy you want to not work like crazy because that's the
one thing that i think we do lack so like i sell a lot on like ops stock x areas stuff like that that's where i've done the most of my money because it's very automated i can press a few buttons and i just have to pack it up the next day it goes to that and i get paid right and it's a lot easier than meeting with people and doing all that stuff as much as i love doing that it's a lot easier you don't have a lot of people like haggle on the numbers and all
this stuff right it's just sad boom boom boom boom boom right that's why i like that but i feel like if we had a bigger audience i'd enjoy that other side of it more too because it'd be just as efficient because we'd have a lot of viewership we don't have a lot of viewers right like we have a good following but not like. It doesn't do the same number justice as the apps do for us because of the amount of volume we have.
It's a fair point. Like, I mean, there's only so much, so many eyes you're going to get on giving like, you know, stock X is a, it's a big platform, right? You know, no matter how big you build your following too, it's not, nobody has clientele like stock X. Exactly. Like, so no, that's dope. And like through the shows and everything, it's like, it's a good way to network too. Right. Yeah. I love, I love the shows, man. It's always a good time. Always a great time.
So you kind of talked about like you procure your stuff and kind of, You mentioned that in the last point, but what are some of your favorite finds or some of the bigger pieces that you've been able to find? I think you talked about like Gucci slides. You founded Goodwill. Actually, I've also, I have these in my personal collection. It's not at my house right now. Premio Ben 23, Jordan 13. What? I got those at Plato's Mississauga. That the fuck up? Swear to God, man. I swear to God. It was $60.
Stupid fine real yeah yeah on the app if i didn't have it if i didn't have a new phone i would be able to pull up the legit app for you right now for it too i like i couldn't like when i'm like shaking in there not believing like did i just see that right it was maybe just sitting up there it's like there's no way it's probably because a lot of the kids don't know what those are too though yeah a lot of the kids don't know as rare as they are a lot of the kids don't know
like i remember i posted them on my instagram for like a big whop of money i said just hearing offers and a lot of the guys are like what even are these like some guy called them doom reds, like the doom red 13s like bro like they're not no doom reds man so i i was just like i just I don't know if he just kept him. That's crazy. That's crazy. It's crazy because those thrift shops probably get stuff all the time.
I know with Play-Dohs Claw that it's like there's certain ones that are better than others. Sometimes there's no rhyme or reason for why they're better.
They just like certain ones get better stuff like where for whatever reason it is like i'm in milton right so the one here is pretty good like i feel like i find stuff there frequently but if you go to like oakville as an example they never have like i feel like whenever i go in there i don't go to the local one i go i go to hamilton hamilton's one of the best ones mississauga and then where's the other one there's one in toronto that's pretty good i don't
remember like which one or whatever one in Toronto is pretty good too though. But most of my big finds are at Hamilton or Mississauga. Yeah. And the Mississauga one, like I found like off white hoodies, $16, sold it on grail for like 300 bucks, stuff like that. Like that, that is where I was able to build a lot of my capital because it's such high return on investment. Yeah. And I'm working using outside money. Like I said, so having that high, high, high, high, high return.
Would really help because then it went from one hoodie to 15 hoodies in a pair of shoes with that same amount of money right so that is kind of how it went about like i don't think i've had like any other crazy shoe finds in the stores aside from the doernbeckers in the bins but, a lot of clothes a lot lots and lots and lots of clothes that's great that helps you kind of build your inventory right and like yeah exactly i don't i don't even deal with the clothes anymore i stopped
it's too many shoes so now like i'm i'm i'm working with my brother hopefully hopefully he's looking at all the clothes that we just have laying around from when i used to do and he's like let me make some money off it i told him i said i said go go after it bro so i might be taking pictures right now i don't know what he's doing he probably is he wants to start selling them so maybe that's where maybe that's where his kickstart is too right.
Yeah no that's dope and it kind of like and uh yeah like it kind of again it leads into the next part of it but like you know the misconception about like you know selling sneakers and stuff like that like uh i like it's interesting because you're procuring a lot of things like we talked about clothes but there's some things that you're just like you're stumbling almost stumbling upon them right like yeah like it's thrift shops where it's like you know you're getting you're just
spending very little for it and like when it comes to the sneakers you know like how are you procuring like i know i mentioned you're hitting up the outlets and picking stuff up from there and then like this is a big one yeah um yeah i buy a lot of i buy a lot off of a lot of salaries as well though because i as i said i don't go for like the big margin so i pay big like not that far off of like what you'll get on stock x and we just focus
on like just sanding up shit and it's after shit because that way it just keeps everything turning, and that's how I'm able to buy a lot of it so.
Paying a little bit more than what the seller paid they make their money i make my money, everybody's happy and that's how i sell it too though like especially with using stuff too like i might sell a you a seller a youth pair of shoes and less than what i can get but they're buying five to ten pairs they'll come back if they're happy and they're able to make money i want them to make money because then they come back so it's interesting that you keep talking about like inventory
and like moving through inventory like that yeah it's interesting because that's uh like most of the time you think it's more about like with resellers specifically you think it's it's more about like dollar like as much money as you get out of that which is not i don't want any money i don't want any money the more shoes i see then the better i know i'm doing because.
If more shoes are coming if if i have no money a lot of shoes it means that the money will come in, it'll always come in and then i can spend it back out to push it to have even more shoes than before kind of like how i said with the hoodie that hoodie turned into a pair of shoes and like 10 to 15 hoodies right my margin might not be that big if i sell three shoes now i can buy four shoes with the money i sold three for so that's how the inventory builds and then you're able to
sell to everybody and just have stuff clicking all day so no man that's cool i love that and yeah obviously you have a ton of inventory coming in and out all the time right uh how do you ensure that everything that you have coming through is 100 authentic when you're when you're building that inventory most of the time i deal with i get it from like the retailers right like you said nike if i buy it from nike i don't gotta worry yeah that's the
beauty behind it right even adidas Some of the Adidas stuff is still hot New Balance is hot 86 hot The game is at a different point right now Than it's ever been When it comes to variety But. You can wear a Samba. You can wear a Jordan. You can wear a Nike Shox. Shox are popping again. You can wear an Air Max. You can wear a Dunk. You can wear anything, like A6. A6 have multiple models too now, like the Kayano, the GT2160s have been doing good for us.
The JL1130, that's a cheap option, and they're still fired. People really like them. then you got new balance at the 90 60s 2002 r's there's a lot of variety right now so.
Buying you you have a lot of retail options to buy from right now if you can get it on a discount in a way because they are going for under retail but if you can get on a heavy discount any of those things you're gonna make money so you don't have to wait for authenticity there the only times where like i really have to worry is like we buy from a lot of sellers and the only times it ever slips through would be if they didn't know like we just we trust our sellers right.
But we also like we know we've had a lot of shoes like a slip up is so so so slight to happen on my i think i've sold over 10 000 shoes at this point i don't think like i i normally just like i could give you like all the reasons like stitching right like if i see the shoe for the most part i will know and it shouldn't take me that long like i have other sellers call me all day they'll be at a meetup literally just to check the shoe that they're holding in front of
the person that they're with because they don't want to wait for the app right so i can like be pretty reassured about my own knowledge within the game and then if i ever have second doubts i always result to a app i think that's the best app i would never use check check in my life that app i've seen fates pass on them i've seen real fairs get called no good so i don't i don't know what their model is but like i have no clue like i bought iris ones for retail
from livestock and then i remember i was trying to flip them this is back in the days where i'd sell on bump the guy wanted a screenshot of check check they didn't pass check check but i bought them off livestock.
Like yeah it just didn't add up so like i don't know i'll never use that app in my life, ever ever since that day no it's good and i'm sure like you know going through 10 000 pairs like you know like you know you know what you're looking for what the tells are and all that kind of stuff right like i mean footlocker that was something i never really got good at was like looking for faith because again like yeah you don't have to you don't have to you don't have to right i only ever
had one instance where someone came in and asked me to legit check something and it was a very obvious fake like it was you know the ones i'm talking about right it's a color that never existed like you know the small things i knew to check for never matched up like just you know it was a very obvious one and i like it was so i felt bad telling him i was like buddy i'm sorry to tell you this but yeah they're
like yeah no good that makes sense but that's good right Because when you're buying from sellers, you definitely want that authenticity, right? So it's good. Or you're buying from legit retailers, and then you're obviously familiar with it, but there is a process and a system in place to make sure that what you're getting and bringing in is legit.
¶ Maintaining Authenticity
Yeah. And I mean, you kind of talked about 10,000 pairs of shoes you probably sold in your career here. What were some of the best sneaker collections That you've seen or any good buyouts That you've done during that time I've done A good few buyouts A lot of my stuff is bulk So like it won't be Like crazy pairs but I have Done some crazy pairs Like the one guy I went to He had multiple multiple Cosfors, Off-White Chicago's Trophy Rooms, Sailfors Like the Off-White Sailors Thank you.
Tiffany SB, Hyde and Lowe's, both of them. I don't know. I don't know. I can check my stock X sales because that's where some of them will be. And that was all one buyer? This is all from the same guy. This guy, I don't know where he pulled all this from. I was going to say, what was making him sell all those pairs too? Like just trying to cash out? He didn't sell everything, everything. I didn't buy the cars. But I bought the Chicago's. I bought, oh, you had UNC off-whites too.
You had all three. You didn't tell me the Euros, though. You wouldn't tell me the Euros. That's the one I wanted the most too. I've only had one Euro in my time. We had Pinnacle 11s, the Gray Swayze. Those ones, that's a sleeper right there. The Born and Raised SBs. There's a lot of good shoes in there. There's a lot of good shoes. Travis Lowe's, of course.
Travis Lowe's are kind of common for a grail. yeah i really enjoy it like like people just look at the value of things but i would rather see like a 600 shoe that i never ever ever get to see versus like a two thousand dollar travis scott that if i open instagram right now it's it's there like you know what i mean it's more entertaining, you're on mute you're on mute thank you yes i am no that's dope man like that's that's that's really dope like i mean i
love that like it's cool when you see those like those bios right because like i mean some of those players you talked about like it's cool to just see them kind of like kicking around like that right um now has anyone had any crazy trade offers for you.
Like maybe something that's outside it like trading a pair of shoes for like a car like i we've heard that before where people are trading i traded for a rolex i traded shoes for a rolex actually what i've done that yeah the only dangerous oyster perpetual i've done my fair share in rolexes too when it comes to shoes because they're just it's just like i know a few people who just buy it so like if i can go off what they give me like i don't like holding on
to it a lot i have one that i'm holding on to right now to flip but aside from that it's like just you stick it and you move it and i'm i basically just treat it as if that's what i off in the shoes. I don't want to deal with all the watch stuff. It's hard to tell if they're legit. It's messy. That stuff's messy. I don't... I don't know enough about it. Like, it's like, if I see a pair of fake shoes, I'm like, yeah, that's fake.
If I see a fake watch, I might look at it like twice and be like, like, I won't know. Yeah. You know? So it's like, that's why I always get like the third person, like one of the people that I know that deals with it. They, they'll help me authenticate it or I'll take it to like Arnick Jewelers. It's the one in the saga. They've authenticated it for me and Rafi.
Rafi and. Oakfield Place. catch the big massive yeah that there i've gone there for that but that i don't think i've really traded for anything outside of that for shoes oh rolex is still pretty pretty damn no no no no no it's cool it's awesome i'm just trying to think if there's like anything even something small like i might have swapped like shoes for outside of the game like obviously clothes and like supreme skateboard stuff like that like that was all like that's a part of the
same culture though i'm just trying to think of something outside because you see people doing these crazy deals like yeah i seen this guy did like it was like a tesla for a mystery box of shoes i'm just like what yeah and.
Then that's that's kind of like the basis like is there something like because i mean honestly like a rolex is a pretty cool fit like yeah like i think of rolex is very very expensive watches that are like probably worth i don't know exactly what you were selling for it but like i would assume that it would be worth two three four five times more than most of the stuff you would be selling right even on the higher end more more more than two people yeah it's like i traded for the one i know
i traded ds black cat for you i traded a few like sbs like not like expensive expensive sbs but actually no one of one of them was a civilist friends and family so where the box would like that was a crazy one those are like a couple thousand bucks on their own it's the like you get like a heat like i used to get like the.
The hair dryer the hair dryer you see it like the hair dryer and i go over the shoe right can you could see it turn all the colors the box did the same thing on the friends and family thing, so i i had those only once and then i ended up going to wear the rolex actually and then that's actually what happened with my first pair of the offway unc that also went to a rolex that's why so that's why i got rid of them because bro
like i loved them but i didn't wear them and this guy wants to give me a roller i had to add obviously i added cash but it's like you know i'm getting Like, I never even touched one of these before, right? Like, I was, I think I was 15 at the time, 16. So, like, yeah, to even be able to do that, I was, like, I was, like, baffled, right? So, it was, like, I had to let him go. No, valid. No, that's dope, man. And we talked a bunch about your business and all that.
What advice do you have for upcoming entrepreneurs who are maybe looking to get into the sneaker business? If they're looking to get in the sneaker business, they got to look at doing it right. Look at the people who are... You see them pushing inventory because you'll see a lot of people sitting on the same stuff for a long, long, long time.
Like i take losses sometimes like like to be fully transparent like of course i do because, we all make mistakes like what i tell people is like if they're selling to me for a loss or i'm offering them a loss like i tell they lost the money when they bought the shoe not when they're selling because the market is what the market is today so if i'm giving you a good offer today and the market is what it is today that's a good offer regardless of what you paid.
So if I bought a shoe when the market was 350 and the market is now like 200, I'm going to sell it for 200 and I'll get back to 350 when I buy a few more shoes with that 200. It'll build its way back up.
That's the only way you can keep stuff flowing or else you're just going to be sitting on dead inventory like people who bought panda dunks a long time ago right like now that i'm selling them for like 90 it's like are they really gonna hold all of them because they're not they're never gonna be what they used to be and if anything they're just gonna keep dropping because they're becoming more and more common they're they were even on sale at gd at a point i think footlocker
might have had them on sale, too.
¶ Advice for New Sellers
Could be wrong about that. Yeah, I know JD Sports had them on sale for sure. It was like 110? 110 or something? Yeah. I know JD Sports had them on sale. And it's crazy. We actually spoke about, like, the whole pain and dump craze last night on our episode and just, like, in terms of, like, the price point and what they were going for, like, it was fucking insane. And I remember, too, like, when I seen them, because I like them.
Like, the color scheme, once again, it's easy wear, right? you need to wear but the hype was crazy i never heard the hype was wild and it was one of kind of like those shoes where it's like the price for me just didn't match the shoe right and no no yeah yeah yeah salute to my homie one like he blessed me with a pair at the height of the like retail he's like yo retail like whatever and when i got the shoe i remember i got them and i'm just like yo they're paying 350 for these like
yeah retail was less before too wasn't it what was it it's 150 now it was like 135 though before right yeah like i'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure dunks just followed the same with the air force no like the retail prices around the same point you know but for me like an older guy like for me too is like when i were buying dunk like eons ago we were paying like 60 for dunks yeah so so for me like when i looked at the panda yeah i and even when dunks came back because it just was
i mean panda was like that was the big one in terms of like but all the other dunks too were going for money but i just for me i'm like i was paying 60 dollars for dunks i can't i'm not paying i'm not paying 150 and and and to boot the quality is.
Not the same right like now the the bullshit they're giving us is not bullshit yeah yeah the sps weren't bad though the sps aren't bad like the syracuse is wearing bad no no no i got the brazils back there those were good those were good but mind you i had syracuse dunks back in the day like in the 90s yeah you know what i'm saying so it's a hard it's a high bar that i have in regards to that so that's true i i wouldn't
know anything about those yeah like it was just different but with the pandas like you said like the pandas and just kind of like their footlocker jds like they're going on sale where at one point in time they were fetching like fucking 350 you know i'm for that pair. And I've seen your post in, yo, brand new pair. It's $90. And I'm just like, $90.
Crazy yeah yeah 90 buck the quality control is so bad like i've gotten pandas like i still remember a few years ago i'd go buy some from footlocker right we'd flip them for like 250 300 bucks some of the size tags were upside down on the inside of the shoe some of the size tags are upside down on one of the shoes it happened to a ton of them there's a common factory for us they couldn't even do that covered in glue stains as
well the glue stains are bad like you could see the shine on the glue from the side of the shit. That's crazy. I think because you're mass producing, they mass produce that they're just kind of in and out type of thing and quality control. They're like, fuck it. They're going to sell. Yeah, why not? They're like, oh, you messed that up. Okay, it's okay. It's going to sell. It's going to sell to you as a panda dog. Get it out. Get it out. Keep it going. Yeah, man.
I think that's great advice, especially the what you said about taking the loss and i mean i mean that's part of the game you know yeah they can move that's what me and my people say he's taking the moment i like that not trev title, but yeah i think it's i think it's an it's important to to kind of put that out there for people that are trying to get into this and i think being very candid to say like yo you're gonna take losses right yeah i remember
being a stubborn little kid and i wouldn't take the law I wouldn't take the loss that's the one thing like I could have sped up how I went about things if I would just take the loss nowadays I just take a lot I just take the loss and I will like like sure like I might still have some money in my account but like I don't like how I go about it I try to spend every dollar I have on inventory because it just replenishes faster that way
so if I can spend that and if you're working on a budget if you're just starting out you're you're gonna need every dollar you got. Every dollar. The more dollars you got, the more money you can make off of it. So. If you're stuck on a $50, like a lot of people start with the cheaper stuff. I know a few of the younger sellers that like will flip like the $50 stuff to sell for $80, right? And then they might get caught on the $150 and then they post it for $50 and
then they post it for $50. Then they post it for $50. Then they post it for $50. If I offered you $30, man, take it. You've had them for a month. Lose your $20. Buy a $30 shoe. You'll get the $50 quicker than trying to get it off the same shoe.
Yep. I agree. just take the loss there and move on and then what i would also say to people who are trying to get into it is find find your spot your place like don't try like i said like watch with other people don't try to do what everybody else is doing like everybody has their own approach everybody has their own reason for being in this everybody has their own interest within the game, you just gotta find like your knees you gotta hit it like once i figured out like the
apps like the apps i was moving on for like a year and a half once i realized i was like simplistic and rapid and how things can just go go go on apps even though i'm not getting as much as i thought i would for this shoe i'm selling so many more shoes that i'm making more at the end of the day.
So that worked out for me for some people like some people's goal is the store right the store is a lot of the stores up charge like crazy so like they want the margin because they have the overhead but they also have the clientele to pay the price right so there's a lot of there's a lot of different ways to go about it but you just got to stay consistent and grind and figure your place like once you know your place stick with it, You know, I mean, well put.
Yeah, very well put. Yeah, well put, man. I think it's important, especially from your perspective, you know, been doing that. I think, like I said, it's very important. Take the, you know, the losses are going to come. Yeah. You know, that's always my rule of thumb is like, yo, you're going to like, you're going to make a deal fall apart for $20. Yeah. Yeah. Not worth it. Not worth it.
Not worth it. it's not worth it especially when you're starting out man you're like when you're starting out like the thing that i can give myself props for is i will i just try to get every deal done like even if it wasn't beneficial for me i just wanted the occurring business like if i'm buying a shoe off you we're 20 off on like three shoes but i'm only making 20 a shoe fine i will pay you the 20 bucks Like I would fold and make $20 on two of the shoes and break even on the other one.
Just because if you know I'm paying you good, they keep coming back to me. I keep buying, right? It's just a reoccurring business everywhere. That's the key point for it for me. So that's why, that's what you want when you start out though, because you don't have a lot of people who know who you are yet. You don't have your go-to guys and you got to find those people within the business for you. Stuff like that, like the relationships.
Relationships are huge the big part of it no dope love that man yes sir, seth i really appreciate you taking the time with us tonight yeah man no worries guys thank you guys for inviting me on man i saw that adam did this too i asked him about it adam said it was a good time and i'm like i listened to you guys episode with them and i'm like you know what i appreciate it appreciate you man no this is great like i I said, and I think for us too, just like in terms of,
you know, I mean, the reselling, we've talked about this topic plenty of times, but just, you know, especially the younger guys, bringing you guys on is kind of getting your insight. And I think it's very intriguing and very knowledgeable. So I appreciate y'all, man. Appreciate you. Thank you for coming through and chopping it up with us. Yeah, I appreciate it, man. Any shout-outs for us? I forgot one yesterday, actually. Oh, so you got... Hey, next day, Trev.
So these shout-outs are one day apart, so you will be hearing this further in the future than when we're recording it, but we're recording the day before the NBA final starts, and the NBA on TNT has officially come to its end. Yes. 32 years? Long time. Something like that. It actually might be longer than that, because I think it was going early 90s, Rich? Late 90s or early 90s? I think early 90s. It's been a minute for sure. I have never watched basketball without the NBA being on TNT.
Let's put it that way. Yeah, this is crazy. So definitely happy that Ernie, Chuck, Kenny, and Shaq will be on ESPN next season, but definitely sad to see the NBA on TNT go.
As sad as it was when the NBA on NBC left and you know we lost our iconic what was it it's a round rock intro I believe is what it was called, which I know it's coming back next year but yeah definitely shout out to the NBA on TNT like they've grown up watching those guys and you know all those announcers and everyone that was on there so definitely sad to see that go that's crazy man, crazy crazy crazy and well it says the TNT network launched in 1988, yeah.
Yeah i'm assuming they they've been covering basketball for for a long time like i said so yeah insane to kind of yeah 35 seasons yeah 89 35 seasons that's crazy that's insane yeah man just wild yeah that's nuts man i was fucking four laughter, No, no, no, no. Three. Crazy, man. But like you said, on to new things. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, man. Any shout-out stuff? I don't know. I'm not too good when it comes to those kind of things.
And if you don't got none, it's all good, man. Yeah, it's all good. Probably not. Probably not today, man. All good, man. But like I said, once again, man, shout-out to you. Appreciate you coming through and grabbed a few pairs from you.
Shout out to adam as well like you know really loving what you guys are doing and, i'm always checking for your stories just know that i want you to know i see those i see those those posts where it's like yo we posted up a few pairs at this time i'm locked in, i'm locked in man i know you're ready i know i'm locked in and what i will say what i appreciate with you guys is that when y'all do your stories and i message y'all and i say yo let me get a pick or vid you guys is quick with
the draw and i think that's that that's amazing because that can make or break a deal so yeah i do it all pre-existing now before i even post that way you have it locked and ready yeah i have it because people are dming everywhere like it's not good for anybody so just take like just take the time beforehand so like sometimes i'll end up posting late because i'll be taking longer than i expected so i'll get the pairs up at nine but,
I've been doing these videos and stuff and these pictures since like four. Right? So it's like, that's just how it goes. I love it, man. I think it shows, further shows dedication to what you guys are doing. So I appreciate that. Like I said, it makes it break a deal. You know what I'm saying? It can. You got to get it done on the spot, right? Like I said, I want volume. I don't want the deal to fall. So that's my goal right there, too. Nah, that's what's up, brother.
So, man, like I said, once again, man, appreciate you, man. thank you for coming through.
¶ Closing Thoughts and Shoutouts
See you later guys alright guys as always you can find us on Instagram at in kicks we trust make sure to use the hashtag in kicks we trust for a potential feature and if you are new to this podcast please make sure to like subscribe give us 5 stars that way you know all the new episodes drop every Monday you can push us in the algorithm and you can find me on Instagram at, trevsky63 Rich where can I find you? You can find me on IG gross status 13 And Seth, where can they find you?
Seth Sells with a Z at the end Awesome As we said Seth, appreciate you taking the time with us tonight Guys, everyone stay safe And be well We will see you all next week.
