¶ Intro / Opening
Music. Hi everyone, and welcome to episode 207 of the In Kicks We Trust podcast.
¶ Welcome to In Kicks We Trust
I am here with three-fifths of the In Kicks We Trust team. Juan, how's it going? You guys thought it was me missing, huh? It's Kev missed it. Hello everyone. Yes, it's not. It's not Juan missing this week. It's Kev. And Rich, how's it going? What's good? And we're joined by a guest today. So we're joined by a previous guest of the podcast.
¶ Reuniting with Andy
Andy, AD Sneaks has joined us. it's our first Eagles guest of the season so I was excited about that and then you know we have we haven't had you on a long time Andy I I don't even know what the last episode was I think you were on a panel with us I want to say maybe maybe it was yeah it was like two years ago I'm thinking it was two years ago I want to say we had you on on one of the panel episodes we did around our 100th episode yeah
I just remember I think it was with you maybe it was with you guys where it was like james and like i can't remember who else was on it but we were talking shit about sean witherspoon yeah yes i forgot about that i forgot about that i think that led into our 100th episode so you're either episode i'll i'll go back and look during this the recording but i think you were either episode 99 or 98 was the last time you were on yeah we'd have to i'd have to reach back in your guys podcast archives and
just scroll and try and i don't even think you can get back that's unless you download the pod bean app then you can then you can get all the podcasts on there but i think i think you are one of those two i can't can't remember which one we had you on because i know we did two panel episodes but appreciate you jumping back on with us we're going to do a round table tonight so you've grown huge since the last time we've had you on so i've got a couple topics we want to.
Discuss with you and you know the eagles have been doing pretty well too so you know i think rich thought it was time to throw me a bone and get a an eagle's guest on here i'll put that middle finger down rich come on i guess we're long overdue terms in all this glory i've been much quieter this year like i i have to say usually i'm loud and proud i've been like i don't think this is our year but the the seven wins in a row we're looking good right now
you haven't been too bad shout out to saquon i'll say that yes saquon's mvp i'm sorry yes sir oh baby for fucking the eagles if the eagles didn't have him they would not be anywhere near what they are now yeah not even close carried them like i even forgot that davante smith was injured like we got saquon he's just going off davante smith who.
¶ Weekly Wears and Pickups
Well appreciate you doing back on with us andy of course always happy to come on, Awesome. So let's start this off like we usually do with our weekly wears and pickups. And I just realized that I haven't wrote a single wear down for this week. So Ron, I'm going to have you start. Oh, Trez. You want me to start? Well, I don't know what I wore this week. I have to go back and think about it. I can start, no problem. For me, I wore the older Black Summer 3s. Just as I felt like doing that.
I wore my Amemone Air Jordan 1s. I wore those Kodak Japan What the Dunk thingies I'm beating them up And then my Mocha won lows Simple week I've been traveling I'm back home for Thanksgiving this week So Hey Dope dope dope Any pickups won? There may be pickups I didn't win the Travis Scott thing today And I actually like those Because I like The design of it I don't know if anyone's Feeling it But I like it Isn't that a brown pair? Yeah I like those I like it Yeah Nice fall You know fall But.
Yeah that's exactly why and i you know basically all the stuff that i wear is around the mocha one so if i wore those i could interchange the stuff that i wear not as a dope here good week, and good week did you get a pair of the black cement threes you know yeah yeah yeah i have the shock drop here i'm gonna actually look at i'm gonna look i have to look at i have to look at that i just never like you know my oh man you haven't looked at him yet no i honestly haven't i'm scared because uh oh no
after it came in the mail because a lot of so the guys send me stuff too so i'm gonna ship out stuff to them but like i was like all right do i look at this but i told my brother hey this is what we're gonna do because we he got a pair i got a pair my cousin i was like we're gonna meet up during thanksgiving we'll all look at it together and then we'll compare and i'm just like dreading this right now because i saw that one where that weird fade haircut the black cement three
took i was like whoa that was terrible and we'll see what happens the name is so fitting because there's a lot of shocking going on yeah opening those pairs up, this shit is atrocious man shout out to Jumpman Bostic he actually posted a picture like a bird's eye view you seen that and the elephant, that shit's looking crazy one toe's like really pointed one looks normal.
We gonna get into that talk though that's definitely the topic I forgot I picked up the 11's that they dropped today shockingly and I was reading the news that they had arrested like a group of dudes for like so I wanted to put i wanted to comment but that's the shock drop right there all those parents that were still, crazy man cancellation emails i know but yeah i got the i mean i already i got the that pair from like a long time ago but i was like let me pick it up again
and see how i feel cool yeah good week one so it was a short week for me i had only two things to add to my notes here so, weather change for us up here andy i'm sure you know all about that down there in utah, so air max 90 infrareds my beater pairs rocked up quite a few times this week prox a couple times just to take the garbage out although it's getting a little cold to wear those to take the garbage out i'm not gonna lie to you black ron never i i don't understand
how you shovel on those things rich i just never just doesn't make sense to me like i never thermal socks it's not even it's not even below zero or below he's got the gore tech socks gore tech socks.
¶ Discussing the Black Cement Threes
I wore an Air Max 90 Navy pair that I have. It's like I was actually counting. I think it's 15 years old this year.
It's just a general release pair all navy gray laces gray swoosh nothing super special picked them up when i was in florida years ago for i want to say it was 30 or 40 bucks so just a pair that i like to wear every once in a while and the one that i wore was the air max one pada aqua noise that was the big pair that i was love that color such a nice pair and it's a nice pair hey let's see you let's see the red on the inside of that box you all
know what this is trevor's holding up the black cement three hey hey yes sir been trying to get these for my fiance for years like i i didn't end up getting them so actually andy we didn't mention this earlier but nike up here ran a 25 off promo oh on all regular price item which included the black cement three yes sir dude yes sir so yeah i actually wasn't planning on getting them because i was just like ah like you know i've mentioned this this is
my favorite shoe of all time so like it's one of those ones where it's like an automatic double up obviously i did not love all the clues i've seen of the cement pattern i didn't love the toe box shaping but price was up on them but rich actually called me in the morning i i we're still.
Getting back from vacation we haven't really stopped since we got back so i slept in because i i won this pair on a footlocker raffle as well so i they were just being shipped to my house i didn't have to worry about it but rich called me saturday morning he's like yo just a heads up well when i finally got a hold of him like 10 or 11 o'clock he's like just a heads up like the the black cement threes are 25 off on nike this morning damn because if
i knew that i would have picked up a men's pair for myself because i think they ended up to what was it rich like they were they were like 242 taxes in and that and they're like they're like 320 and that's yeah three yeah 320 it'd have been 320 taxes in so 70 71 savings crazy like it's a no-brainer like dudes are just picking them up just because right like on a new release yeah on a new release absolutely so that shit was a pleasant
surprise man to kind of see that how any quality control issues yeah i'm just checking the quality control pair looks like one One of the shoes is a little bit more. A little bit higher. Okay. Okay. I see the lighting is a little bit off. I don't think the lighting. That's another common thing I've heard, though, with them. The leather. Yeah. Remember the Royal Ones? Yeah. It was the same deal. Remember the Royal Ones? These are getting like one toe is super tumbled and
the other shit was just flat leather. Yeah.
It's it's not too bad the one is the one definitely the left one looks a little bit more tumbled than the right but it's not terrible like no it's something that's great yeah i remember when they re-released the bacons it took me like three that shit too and i had like mix and match too i was like oh this left shoe looks kind of like okay and i had to get two shoes to figure that out and it's yeah the bacons were the same deal bacons are a big work done as well
a lot of control call the controllers you need that pair i got really lucky on my bacons i actually i believe the soul savvy actually they ran a contest like it was like a poster air maxes and tag us and use the hashtag or whatever so i won my pair for free actually and the pair they sent me was perfect like good no issues on either of them which i was shocked at right and i knew like i had a pair i think i think i got it like i wanted a little bit before the release
so i knew i could go after it if I needed to after, but the pair was like perfect. Like no issues on it at all. I know a lot of people had that issue with the Bacons. There are a lot of issues with them. Maybe Nike or Jordan's doing this just to, you know, keep people buying multiple pairs so they can get right. That's their strategy. That's crazy, man. That's it. Thank you. Yeah, it felt nice. Winning a raffle on Foot Locker too. That was a nice.
Hell yeah. is what's funny is that i don't know how they do the raffles but i woke up to the win on saturday morning really yeah which is weird interesting yeah that is interesting like rich when you called me like that was one of the notifications i was going through like because the calls are at the bottom but like i had the shipment email that i won and then i had the footlock notification because usually you do they do
the raffle before the release day yeah not on the day of yeah so The shoot comes out Saturday, like you'd know by Friday at whatever, 5 o'clock or whatever, right? Or not, whatever it is, right? You'd know before the shoot came out. But I woke up Saturday morning to that. So it was different. Yeah. Somebody was sleeping. Again, no problems. I got it. No issues. But yeah, it was a little surprising, I must say. But yeah, that was my week. Week. Thank you.
And Andy, what about you? What have you been rocking this week? And what was your last pick up? Sunday, I don't wear anything. I just socks around the house on Sunday. So I don't even know what socks they wear. Comfy, warm socks. And then yesterday, I wore Jordan 1 High Rookie of the Years.
One of my favorite Jordan 1s. that one i feel like and i put it in this like specific category it's like my favorite and i think the best non-og non-collab jordan one in my opinion i could agree with that yep did you see the lows yeah the lows look good yeah the lows look really i fucked those lows i just hope that the leather and the suede is as good as it is on the highs yeah yeah because those i mean it's such a beautiful shoe it goes really nice with
like this color right here on my eagles hat rich you know like i'm gonna let y'all get them off it's all good i'm gonna let y'all rock tonight i'm gonna let y'all rock tonight and speaking of uh of birds i wore the turduncans today's tis the season for that shoe still one of my favorites he's like the thing with seasonal, sneakers like christmas or like thanksgiving or halloween i want to find a reason to wear those outside of the holiday season but i can never bring myself to
wear those like outside of Thanksgiving time. Maybe fall. That would be a good fall shoe. Just outside of the seasons, it's kind of like who's wearing Halloween shoes in December? Somebody really loves Halloween. I don't know. But.
As far as pickups go this week i got a few things in i'm trying to remember i got the ae1 low iron shuns iron hey yeah let me see those hey those really cool it's like a purple chrome iridescent like it's a more muted version i guess of the all-star that he did but yeah these are and they come with orange laces to match the logo so.
Really really cool shoe and then what else did i get in this week okay i was intrigued by them a few weeks before they dropped those air max waffles where they put the waffle on the tn and like yesterday i love them like they're comfortable it's phenomenal and i hope i was talking with somebody i hope they do like some like og waffle colorways like the royal blue with the yellow swoosh i'd be sick they'd be really cool but yeah i'm a fan of those and then got in eq wells
i don't know if you guys know eql's hoop shoes yeah their newest 360 they're really dope they i'll talk more about these guys later in the episode based off of you know some of the questions but yeah super dope stuff that they've been doing this year and that's that's another stellar basketball model that they just released sick the ae ones are just like they keep dropping good colors in that shit like just banger after banger after bang i'm waiting for the all chrome
ones that i've seen like floating around online those ones will go crazy sick i'll look at them and then they'll be dirty but that's okay i want i want the chrome ae ones is it like a pewter like a pewter remember the pewter phones yeah yeah this that kind of reminds me of it when the light hits it it looks like a chrome a bit but i can see like the iridescent yeah kind of look on it like the purple to it a little yeah yeah no they're it's similar yeah.
I like the low i i like the lows over the is it a mid what you consider it a mid yeah because like on the lows like the toe like right here on the tongue yeah it actually the tongue goes lower on the the highs it goes like the tongue starts here so all of this is like stitched in and it kind of i don't know it's the top of your foot yeah i like that a little bit uncomfortable yeah the lows are those are amazing i like the most it's nice of you such a good
like he's done such a good job with that shoe like yeah it's a great silhouette man it kind of reminds me of like not in the sense of the exact look but like remember the kd4s how every colorway was just banger after banger after banger yeah that's what i feel like what this pair is you know what i mean absolutely and it's almost bittersweet because how do you follow up something like that with something like that you know what i mean i mean where do you pivot from that
you know what i mean like and no one's really been able to do that to pivot from that too right because if you think about the kd5 was.
It tried not well tried no no one remembers that ain't retro on that anytime soon exactly right the follow-up to the i i would compare the lebron eight as well rich yes where like almost almost every color was like yes amazing sevens and eights were eight fingers seven eight nine were like that range fingers but i feel like nine didn't quite hit the mark that the seven eight did because remember the sevens had two iterations of it the second one which
was like i was it was it the v no sorry sorry the sevens did the full zoom air but the eights originally didn't do the full zoom air I thought the eights had the full zoom.
They do but the first ones they released did not the lebron eights that you know with the full zoom was not the first ones that they released they originally released them with just the half zoom in the heel you know what you are right the upper was a little bit different too it almost looks like a takedown version of the eight yes you're right yes now i remember because i'm not thinking to myself like didn't each have the full zoom but no they have like it was almost a takedown version
of the eight where it was like that mesh kind of like mesh yeah i know exactly what you're talking about yeah it didn't last for long like they didn't have a lot of pairs of those most of them use like the full zoom air and then they did like the the material that you'd used to on any of the like the big pairs that you're you'd remember from that time frame but it was like originally just a half zoom air right so kind of similar to what you see in the night right
the nines that they did the because i know every year for the playoffs like you'd have the the normal like lebron eight lebron nine but then the playoffs came and it was like the like next step up in performance or something like that. I can't remember what the model was called. That started at the 9. It was the Elite Series. The Elite Series. They had the Elite Colby's. They had the Elite LeBron 9. Better materials. Those were dope as well. Some of those Elite 9s were really good.
That golden white, the black and gold. Those were nice. So good. Great colors. Nice. Good week. I'm excited to talk about basketball shoes with you because I know you've got some stuff in and I'm I'm excited to hear your take on them. Yeah, yeah. Hell yes. Rich, what about you? For me, sure, week as well, man. Yeah, Crocs, you know, at the door. So just getting some worse than that. Actually... I had, I think it was last week's episode because I got my Ray Gun Air Force
Ones back. So I'm just using that as an outdoor pair. So that's kind of out the door. It's getting a little bit nippy, Trevor. I agree with you, but Crocs ain't going away. So kind of rotate between the two. Reimagine Jordan 3. So like I said, that's getting a lot of burn. Lost and found Ones. Rocked those yesterday. And then today I actually rocked the Union 2s, that Rat 10 pair. So trying to get some fits off of those. That's pretty much it, man. Pickups, don't got them in hand.
But ended up, like Trev said, grabbed those salute to Kev, helped me out got those black cement threes so we'll see what those will look like when they get in hand but that 25% that 25% off, man just made this shit even better so, fuck, paying $240 for like a retro, like this day and age is big, so definitely happy with that, man, and salute to everybody that hit on those.
¶ Quality Control Issues
To the resellers and the people who bought resell there'll be some tear shit, when you find out what you could have paid because I've seen some resellers like $4.50 which is nuts and all those people paying resale are probably getting the bad ones that people don't keep the bad batch I would I mean if I was a reseller I'd be giving you the fucking the lowest of lows, like take these you know so yeah Blacksaman 3 so definitely a pair 2018 pair
I mean I'll save that for when we get into that talk but anyhow Blacksaman 3s can't wait till those get in honestly those are gonna get lots of burn for this fall and winter so definitely got to have them up here but that was it for me i think that transitions very nicely into our first topic then there we go re-release so i think we should we should just start talking about that or should we say debacle okay.
The release was fine the shoe yeah how does like and i i understand that there's always going to be production issues so i don't like to get too worked up over like because you always see things where it's like oh there's glue stains you know something random happened i mean someone found a bullet in their blacksmiths. Crazy. There's always something random that happens like that, that like, you know, some sneaker website or whatever, or Instagram page is going to take and run with. Right.
So I don't like to get too caught up in that. And again, like when you make that many pairs, there's always going to be problems, right? You know, the swoosh is on backwards, you're missing a swoosh, right? Whatever the case is, there's always something like that that happens. But man, oh man, did you see so many messed up pairs?
And you mentioned jump man bostic rich just a little bit earlier i i don't think that pair he got was seated to him like and i could be wrong about that so if i'm wrong that's fine but he usually buys his pairs yeah i don't think his pairs up for him to get a pair like that is just like that is like the toe box is like very pointed on the i think it was the right shoe on the photo yeah like it is much more pointed than the other one which is much more rounded
right like that's a that's a huge issue like with production i just don't know like it's such an iconic shoe like that's really the first one of this like next 12 to 14 months where there's just going to be a ton of heat coming out right this isn't how you want to start this i don't think right yeah like i think you see like i don't know because they have the issues last year with the white cements right like the mismatching elephant print and even like some people's i mean lots
of it's very similar to what they're doing with the black cement threes so it's like i wonder if they just you know kind of was like ah white cements were okay let's just run it back with the black cements like we did with the white cements like with the manufacturing and all that stuff and if it was the same like.
Issues i don't know and it's it's sad because again this is like if not the most iconic jordan it's like one of the most iconic jordan shoes that have ever been in his you know his lineup and then you see the quality control issues on it and it's just it's like come on you gotta do a little bit better this is my favorite shoe of all time like there's nothing that tops this if i had to get rid of everything it's probably the one jordan i keep it's a top three jordan it's it's
not two or three so for me to skip on it was a hard decision because yes like like that's one that i always want to have re-ups on but it was one of those things where it's like just going to circle back on it like i just i just don't love the quality on these like it's probably going to be a lot of hairs so there's going to be something that's kicking around at some point i just i don't want to spend three hundred dollars can he oh sorry what was it rich 340 canadian yeah i
think it's like maybe 330 like yo like i don't want to spend that on a pair that like maybe the elephant print's not going to be good the toe box shape might not be great like i just didn't want to do that like and this this is such a historic and iconic shoe within jordan's catalog right and like i said earlier like i know there's always going to be those like small quality control things that you know when you make that many pairs happen but like i just saw so much bad stuff about
the pairs that were going out right I was like this really. Took my excitement down for that shoe like Andy said like you know the white cement three that reimagined parody did you know there's some quality control issues but I don't think it was nearly as bad as this man because even when we shut out to Kev we went to we hit on them ended up picking up my pair and we were kind of just praying like you know like hopefully we don't got any issues because we started you know we're hearing
things but like if I have to look in comparison to this black cement three. When I first heard it, you know, you hear shit, right? So you just think like, you know, people talking shit. It's just like shit here and there. But then when you started just seeing like just pairs after pairs after pairs. And I'm just like, man, this is fucking crazy. And it's almost like everyone for the majority of people for the shock drop just got fucking pairs.
I seen scuffs. I'm like, how does this shoe scuffed already? Like the paint, like it was just, it was terrible. And imagine, right? Like you're spending money on this and all they can say.
Well we can't do anything just return them and it's just like well i want the shoe that's cool i want the shoe i don't want my money like i gave you my money because i wanted the product there you go i want a product where like it's it's good and it's a little bit disheartening and i get it because it's almost like a double-edged sword right because we ask for the pairs we want them in an abundance right where they're accessible everybody can get them but it's like yo don't give
us a lot of pairs if you fucking can't get the quality control issues under control you know what i mean it's one thing to mass produce something but there has to be some standard and i think with this like they hit they missed the mark like on them because it's like like i said they're really bad flaws elephant print not matching elephant print is a higher cut than other foot like imagine picking up a pair you throw them shits on and it's like the shit is lopsided like it would
drive me insane you know so you know like trev said bullet holes in boxes like the shit is wild like it's crazy it's so crazy yeah but think like you i think you touched on all those things and like i like since when trev pulled his out and you talking about i have my pair right here and i'm just like i've looked at them already and they're okay but now i'm like keep looking at them just like to make sure that like there's nothing wrong everything is good yeah yeah it's good.
And you know like people people are comparing these the 2018 pair and uh some people's takes on like these versus the 2018 pairs those are those are interesting if you can find a thread on people comparing the two and just get some popcorn it's comedy because some people are like oh yeah the elephant print on the 2018 pair looks like a top of topo map of the grand canyon it's so deep and it's like okay and just some of these comments and the funny thing 80
is like they retro that pair how many times and elephant print has been the same up until now so it's like miss me with that shit like it's stupid yeah yeah they're trying to go back to like the og original but no one remembers the og original except like you know people who've been in it for a long long time and it is what it is i'm glad the shape shape's beautiful i mean if it love the shape definitely the shape is great love the tongue height love the padding it's not too thick like i love
that but yeah elephant print is you know is what it is with that but yeah overall happy but just kind of sad in the quality control and to me the elephant print is what makes that shoe so iconic right it's because yeah that's what a three is to me right like i mean obviously they've done pairs without the elephant print but the pairs without the elephant print suck.
Like the elephant print i think is what makes that shoe so iconic it what makes it stand out it looks so good with the black and red it looks so good with the white and red and the black like the elephant print is what makes the shoe a jordan three right when you take that away like it's not that it's not a nice shoe but i'm trying to think what doesn't have elephant print when the only one that's an exception to me where it worked was that i'm only
year three and the white pair say those not the black the white pair the black pair to me is friggin horrendous like it's it's not horrendous hideous i don't like it i i take i take a black cement over that black pair any day but that white almond manure three it worked i don't know what it is about it it just worked not having that elephant print on it and i agree but like i think that's the only one because really if you know that's the only one that's the
only one like the one i'm thinking about is the cyber monday threes not the same you add elephant print to that and it's almost like it almost makes it better like i'm just i i'm having a hard time thinking of anything without it but that's one of the the selling features of the shoe that's what made it iconic when it was first worn right that's what made it different that's what made it stand out so if you're ruining that like that is to me is the defining
feature of that shoe i equate it almost to like even like you look at the jordan 11, right? You go from that low cut patent leather to the high cut, right? The high cut is the OG. I prefer the low cut. And as I say, I always say this Jordan Brain, they will make tweaks to pairs. Silhouettes, and sometimes it just looks better than the OG, in my opinion. That lower cut patent leather on a Jordan 11 to me, it just looks cleaner.
Looks so much cleaner than the high cut patent leather. And the high cut, that's the OG. That's what it was. I don't remember that. You know what I mean? Like 96, I remember the shoe, but I can tell you if the patent leather was high, low, like I just knew the shit had patent leather. I didn't know, you know what I mean? The dimensions of it. Like, yeah, I wasn't really doing that. So I wouldn't know unless I was of an age where I knew like,
no, this was a high thick cut patent leather. So with the elephant print, I agree, Trev. I like the more embossed look of the ones before. Like, I just think that that tweak, it just looks better. Am I opposed to it? No. but i'd have i can't knock anyone who are like look i got the 2018 pair and i'm good with them yeah i mean at least you got a new pair now that's easy to soul swap once those 18s there you go yeah get crumbly there you go especially with those quality control issues yeah donors.
Yeah and i mean like it doesn't mean that you're gonna get a bad pair necessarily right like and i mean rich again like if i if i had seen that that at the 25 off at nike earlier i probably would have grabbed the pair as well just like it's a no-brainer it's a no-brainer yeah exactly like i know you mentioned that to me this weekend i totally like no-brainer to just pick that up for that price but like at almost 330 canadian which is probably like 250 260 americans
something like that andy like depending on taxes and all that like taxes and shipping and yeah exactly like that's expensive like that's really expensive especially when you're not sure what you're actually going to get with the shoe yeah that's like retail price is near resale price of some shoes yeah and i mean it really makes you have to kind of like pick and choose what you're going to get right like and for me i would have always chose a black cement three but it's like,
i don't know about this like i honestly my plan is to just say like put that money aside and go try and get a pair of all nines on sale.
Can't go wrong man yeah haven't seen any quality control issues with those yet so no exactly like so yeah that's what i'm gonna do so and if i want to circle back on them i'm sure there's gonna be a ton of pairs kicking around a few years later so i'm yeah i think you'll see you'll see some restocks too i bet here in the next few months they always do their you know their restocks so yeah but maybe those restocks aren't a good thing because maybe those are all the returns that
people have been sending back of the quality control issues so fair fair point team it's like yeah we restocked all the ones we just got back yeah we restocked all the ones that had quality control issues your cement pattern not looking very good your toe box terrible, or maybe they'll like mix and match or maybe that's someone's job when they get the returns is like find a matching pair that it works with it's like right here we got it.
Yeah definitely disappointed i'm hoping we don't see that with with some of the other stuff coming out later this year because again there we know there's there's a lot of high heat coming out later this year but yeah definitely disappointing to see but happy it sounds like all of us got decent pairs one i'm hoping hoping when you open yours up in the next few days that you your pairs looking good too, I'll send pictures, but I didn't see Jumpman Bostics. Those are like crazy.
Unbelievable to look at. Yeah. Do better, Jordan Brand. Do better. Yes. Yeah. That's too important to have a shoe to your lineage to mess it up that badly.
¶ Celebrating Makeway P6000s
Yes, sir. All right. The other one that we had is, so Andy, I don't know if you saw it. Had you seen the Makeway P6000s that released? I have. Those things look really good. I was not able to get a pair, unfortunately.
So i want to pay resale because i love the p6000 model no man you gotta you gotta reach out to your toronto folk we'll get you the special box we'll make that happen for you to stop that man reach out to your toronto guys man come on man don't do that we out here okay this up if any if any of y'all can get me one size 11 i will gladly yeah man you got the you got the toronto plug come on man i will gladly tip oh yeah because those those are those are dope i love the p6000 and it was the coconut
milk colorway, I think last year, two years ago that I picked up that I really was like, yeah, I like these a lot. And at that time, I think that's when the Vomero 5 was really like starting its big push. And I got a pair of Vomero 5s in and then I had my P6000. I'm like, no, I don't like these Vomero's. I like these P6000s more, but then Vomero just took off and everybody loves the Vomero 5.
But I love that Makeway was able to take like a not so popular like shoe in the p6000 and do some subtle cool little things on it like the p6000 logo there on the the heel like i can't remember what it says but it said like what does it say on it party 6000 i believe yeah party 6000 like that's amazing like little subtle things like you change those little tiny details i'm a sucker for stuff like that so anytime i see a little tiny detail like that that's different i want
the shoe and just kind of some backstory on that like being that they're make ways from canada or specifically from toronto they throw like a couple different like parties every year so they'll do like and they're like they're big on like this this make way party is like a big big thing so they have a dj that comes they do like they're all dancing and having a great time and all that kind of thing so like the p6000 was actually perfect and doing it as like the party 6000 so
they actually for the launch of this they they rented out like a club in toronto like right on the water and they threw like a big party in the club had a dj come in like kind of like a big dance party there was a bunch of uh ladies that we know in the city that went to the party like it was a big thing so that's kind of some of the the history behind the like the party part of the 6 000 i love that okay that link you just sent i didn't know they were
still on their website i'm gonna buy these right now so yes sir you're gonna have to ship them to one of us so oh because they don't ship oh because it's nike and canada yeah okay yeah you can talk you can ship it so yeah we'll talk after you ship it to one of us and we'll get it to you.
Okay you'll get the special out cage on it is so good yeah like they they did such a good job with it and like i i but kevin i were talking with previous guest uh randy hernandez as well this weekend and like for me i think you got to go like within the lineage of toronto sneakers this has to be included in it because i think the only other boutique that has done a release like this is the new balance one you might know what it is the canadian tuxedo i believe it is i can't
remember what model it is new balance i could uh the bottom again for it hold up give me a sec i'll look it up sure new balance yeah new balance capsule 580 canadian tuxedo yep okay yeah yeah they've done such a good job on that shoe and there's just not a lot of shoes that we get for canada up here so air max won the six we just did the air max 95 torontos as well a couple months back as well the 580 cane tuxedos right you got to put this up there with it right and i mean the fact that it's
a women's own boutique and it's one of two or three i believe in the world that are completely run and old or the wording is going to confuse me but i think there there are other female sneaker boutiques but i think theirs is the only one that is run and operated by women.
So yeah like shout out to the ladies i know we shouted them out on the last episode right when we were finishing off but that's such a nice shoe like such a nice shoe they did such a good job with that you're right andy like the subtle details they had on that because i've seen the p6000 before and i'm like ah it's like okay like there's just nothing crazy about it but you saw that and you're like wow that's actually really nice and it looks more like a romero the
way that they've done the shoe just the the plastic cage on the outside i think really helps too and then what they did with the check because the the nike swoosh on a normal one like sometimes it's embroidered or sometimes like that bubble yep but there's with the bubble it has that line that like goes down the middle to separate the top from the bottom yep oof so good they did such a good job on that and like anyone who hasn't seen it go check it out it was there
a you we were actually talking about this andy was there a u.s release for this shoe not that i was aware of someone to know because like i was looking for like a sneakers or like searching on like the internet something for it something that's kind of interesting didn't they say there's gonna be like some type of release of some boutiques later on but they didn't like specify yeah i think there might so i what we think is happening is that all the pairs that are up here and you
got a special box yeah you'll get a special box with that yes so it's like the toronto the the 95 air max as well. We had a special box compared to what came out in the States. Compared to what happened in what the U.S. got. Because I think a couple weeks back, the Sneak Disc podcast was talking about these. And they usually use, I believe it's, I think it's goat that they use for their...
Their releases so i think there is going to be a u.s release like there's going to be more of an international release for this i assume kind of like the air max 95 toronto right like i mean not that this isn't a nice shoe but i don't think there's going to be the same type that there would be for it that there is here sort of thing but i i think it's great that this is going to get a more global release because they did a really good job on this shoe yeah it
looks it looks good i remember seeing some pictures and then i think who who was shown i think lawrence from soul savvy was showing on i was like man those look good and so yeah definitely definitely gonna have one of you guys uh ship those to me yeah you can let us know man yeah there's they got the full size around there like i know kevin i are probably going to be scooping a pair as well i it was my grandfather's 100th birthday on saturday
so i i when i didn't hit on the uh the black cements i was like you know what i'm just gonna pick up the p6000s and then i had to start getting ready and i. Forgot to go back for it but definitely something that i'm going to be circling back for within the next few weeks for sure shout out to the lead oh sorry yeah shout out to make way man so happy that they were able to get a collab like that and like they just knocked it
out of the park like did such a good job with that all right next thing we have is so kind of going into some sneaker silhouettes from this year what is the most recent sneaker silhouette or brand that grew on you and why so andy i think you've got some stuff from some pretty interesting brands And so definitely some stuff I've heard.
¶ Exploring New Sneaker Silhouettes
I know our homie Steve, Sneaker Tech Talk, he's got some of that stuff. Was it the EQL that you showed us? Like he's shown some of that stuff on his page. Anything that stands out to you? Yeah, so I like that one. So when was it that they did the 247? I can't remember. It was earlier this year. I saw him and I think I heard about it because so Aaron Cooper, former designer at Nike, is doing some stuff with EQLs. And I saw him on things like the Complex podcast.
And I think he brought it up on there. I was like, huh, interesting. And so I like looked it up, I was like, oh, those are dope. And so, and then when I was out at sneaker con Los Angeles earlier this summer, I saw someone had a pair on out there and was like, oh, those look really good. Okay. I'm going to buy a pair. And so I bought a pair of the two, four, seven. So these ones right here, and they have a bunch of sick colorways in these.
So this plastic rubber part, they got some cool, like iridescent colorways in these, like really, really good. Just the quality is insane. Like for a brand that just really, maybe they've been out for a while and I didn't really discover them until this year, but they're new to me this year. And for a brand that's been out not that long and producing like high quality stuff, like I've played in these and they perform great on court. They're one of my go-tos, love really playing in those shoes.
And so going from like small little brand to having a hoop shoe that performs just as good as like a Nike, a Jordan and Adidas or whatever else is out there.
Like that's impressive. that brand is you know that's they've kind of caught my attention and then i showed earlier on like pickups there their new 360 that one this one's cool because like yeah i like that upper is a sock like i don't know if you guys can see that the whole upper on it is sock but then these things on the side like it's just got these four like cages almost that when you tighten the laces it just puts the pressure on your foot in
those specific targeted spots so it's got the comfort of like is it a foam i was gonna say it kind of looks like that change of foam closet on the it's like it's leather so the sides like or fake leather i don't know so like it's there's foam in there and it feels like it's almost like a plastic like almost like a fly wire almost i don't know but i haven't tried these yet i still have the the stickers on the bottom but the the traction pattern looks cool i mean it's a cool shoot
they're doing some really cool stuff design wise i mean they got aaron over there who's one of the you know great legendary nike designers so it makes sense that they're doing some awesome stuff because his design work is stellar. So yeah, this has been a brand that's caught my attention this year. These are the only two models. I think they have a lifestyle model, but I'm not sure of that. But yeah, these two, love them.
I know steve had really good things to say about that model as well like that it was just performed really really well on court like and i mean within the basketball space right there's really hasn't been any new brands that have come out and just it's one of those things where like yeah like you've got such a legendary designer that's working on that shoe right so the things that you worry about with a basketball shoe like how's the traction is this going to hold up you know i
I think of the big baller brand, right? Remember the horror stories when those came out, right? Oh, man. That shit was terrible. One of those things where it's like, whatever, they cheaped out on materials and all that. Potentially that hurt Lonzo in his career sort of thing, right? But yeah, you think about that when you think of a new basketball brand, you're like, oh, I don't want to try that.
I don't know how it's going to feel. But when you have someone who worked on basketball signature sneakers with Nike you in the i believe it was the early 2000s late 90s i think it was yeah yeah i'm trying to i know he did a decent amount of pairs on the scotty pippies line yeah after obviously the uptempos but whatever the ones that had like that plastic thing that went like on the bottom on the yep i don't know yeah i can't remember which model that was a
scotties but i think that was aaron's design i might have to go back and look at his stuff but and i know i want to say he did some stuff with kevin garnett that's what i want to say too i want to say it was either maybe it was the one and the two and the three before he got into like the foam flight posit stuff yeah yeah i can't remember but he's got a stellar pedigree so i mean that's that's awesome that they have him on board doing design
stuff for him and you know i think you bring up the big baller brand and like these you know smaller basketball shoe brands that are starting to emerge this year like three four years ago nobody would have gone with a you know an off brand but now that you see like kairi's doing dope stuff with ants yeah you have like and that and that's my pick yeah talk about that and you have like yokich doing stuff with like 361 degrees yeah and you have you
know leaning who's doing stuff as well and then you have like each ul's is now so i think people are more like. It's more commonplace now for people to branch out of like the bigger mainstream basketball shoe brands to try something else. Cause they see professional athletes doing it. And then you see like Nike designer, you know, working with these guys. It's cool. I think it's, is it serious players only is the other one? Yeah. Yeah. Those ones that are kind of based off of Kobe's. Yeah.
Like, yeah. Like, I mean, it's just one of those things you would have never seen something like that. Five, six, 10 years ago. Sort of thing. Right. So it's cool. That's definitely a breadth of fresh air.
¶ Comfort of On Cloud Shoes
And my pick, the silhouette for me is going to be that Kyrie. That anta one is super dope we were actually at sneaker con and they had a young kid i don't know if you're with me trev i was yeah okay yeah that was looking to sell them and i've never seen him in hand so like you know i was kind of yo let me see those and kind of look at them and just.
Great shoe you know what i mean so those are one of those things like you said i don't years ago we'd never look at anything outside of like you know the big three like you know nike reebok adidas whatever it is like we're not looking at anything so that anta pair is dope even the lifestyle one he did i think it's the the kai or something like that like that shit is dope too it reminds me of a reebok tennis shoe just with like a thicker midsole but that's kind of the vibe i get from
it so just just super dope and salute to kairi just to kind of after nike to pivot in and do what he's doing with with the answer so that's kind of if i had to pick in terms of like new so what's it's gonna be mine is that yeah so and you know what's crazy you talk about like not wanting to go outside of like your big three i remember when adidas started coming back with basketball shoes and like keep in mind in the early 2000s like when i'm growing up like there's
not really a lot of adidas basketball out there like i think they had the kevin garnett's on the t-max and the tim duncan yeah but they really weren't big in the basketball space or at least that i remember when i was growing up so i remember when the d rose came out and i don't remember the crazy lights yep i remember those i remember those coming out and being like do.
I trust this traction is this going to be like a good basketball shoe right so like even just going into like brands that are like again like even new balance has kind of resurfaced as a basketball shoe recently right like with a couple pairs like at the time if they'd done that like you know new balance is a pre-established brand right so if they're putting out a basketball shoe they probably have a pretty decent product same thing with adidas same thing with
puma all that kind of stuff right at the time i was like well i don't know about these like are these gonna have good traction like am i gonna break my ankle in this and then d rose blows out his knee and it's like oh there it is right and then adidas goes up.
Going just crashes man for me when that happened i was like that's it i'm sure it wasn't the shoes fault i'm positive now that it was not the shoes fault that he did that to his knee but to me i specifically blame the adidas shoes that he did that in 100.
Yeah but those pairs you showed are pretty dope and it's funny too because there's someone i follow on ig too that first pair you got put up he was rocking those i'm like what the fuck are those like just look like is that i'm just like one handsome v was it there it is one handsome yeah yeah that's exactly what i've seen him i'm like what the fuck are those and then now you put them up and it's the shoe so like oh shit like it's just and they've even done uh i'm
trying to remember so i was out in cincinnati for the unheard of building bridges adidas release and so during some of the time there we went up to corporate so up there they did their airship a couple years ago and they had some eqls there at their store so i was talking with matt the the guy who owns corporate and they did like a collab with eqls with like some of their local youth and stuff and they got a design like an eqls 247 model and like they have it there in store which was it
was pretty dope like they're doing cool designs but then they're doing like cool little things like that to like grassroots kind of stuff that's dope this gives people like an opportunity to get into their shoes right and it's something that's actually a good product too so oh yeah it has like the shoe that you showed uh there the what it was the model that you called the all black one the all blind that was the 360 the 360
it kind of has like like almost a lebron 4 look to it and it's almost like like almost like rich is it like a flight positive is that the shoe i'm.
There's a shoot i'm just trying to i'm just trying to put my finger on it yeah because i'm looking at them just like what the fuck is it man that's why i actually feel it's fun yeah because like it reminds me kind of like a flight posit type of no type of shoes on the side here i'll take the laces out so you guys can see it a little bit like those are all like fully detachable like they go down oh shit okay so when you tighten the laces like it's not part it's not sewn into the sock
it's just it's down part of the like the midsole so it's like part of really hug your foot yeah and you know i saw these i was like man this looks like a like a samurai shoe like a ninja or something you know would wear this shut out to khali i was gonna probably wear those shits you know what it kind of reminds me of too a penny three like that old penny three you know that's why i asked i'm like is it a foam like is this just kind of reminds me of that character but no super
dope just like i said i don't think that you know years ago we're not looking at anything outside of like the big brands you know in terms of shoes we're not wearing that shit.
Yeah i mean lee lee lee lee like way it has been with leaning for some time and in my opinion too like they put out some solid stuff through the years but i just think that when he was doing it you know we weren't really checking for that shit as it as opposed to now we're a little bit more open to you know different brands and stuff like that it's also hard too because some of those like the leaning specifically leaning has been sponsoring basketball players for a while
you can't buy them in North America like they're so hard to find like Andy I don't know if it's better in the States but for us up here you can't buy a leaning shoe anywhere yeah I mean just they're not in person I think you can order from their website maybe but I haven't looked and for me specifically like if I'm gonna buy a basketball shoe I want to try that thing on like I get that you can you can order online but for me
like and especially if you're a new brand right like I mean and I like I know there are some brands that you have to order online, but that was always the thing with the leanings. It's like, that's really interesting. I'd like to try it, but it's like, I'd also like the opportunity to see it, hold it in hand and that kind of stuff. Yeah. So the silhouette, or I'm going to go with the brand for me specifically, is on. On Cloud, I knew you were going to go with that.
You've heard me talking about this a little bit. We referenced it in the last episode we recorded, but I am so thoroughly impressed with those shoes. Andy, I just got back from Orlando. We did a trip to Disney for two of the park days. So that's like 20,000 steps each day. Yeah. They're like pillows.
Really? in the middle in the middle i wore air max 90 infrareds right so another really really comfortable shoe no issues with that pair but the on i couldn't even tell that i was wearing shoes on my feet like it was that comfortable dude that's crazy because i've wanted to try those but i i don't know i just it is by far the most comfortable thing i've ever put on my foot and i've worn all your nikes your ulster boost like all that kind of
stuff like specifically when i was at Foot Locker like I was really big on I want to try running shoes because standing there for eight hours can get very big full on your feet you can't wear Jordans all the time so I've tried all that stuff I have never put on a more comfortable shoe on my foot like I just really have never put on anything more comfortable and what I was most surprised at and I said this last week when we were recording the shoe that I noticed most in
all the Disney parks was on was it really yeah there's a ton of people there right so obviously you see everything right but there was no like i did not see a lot of new balances so none of the 1906 r's or 2002 r's like nothing like that you know you maybe a handful of them but nothing that would like really stick out in your memory jordans i think i saw a couple pairs of jordan ones couple of like.
One lows like just very gr pairs but in terms of like the the running shoe that i really saw a lot of people wearing on cloud. That's wild. And they're catching on. They're getting some traction. It really surprised me. I was anticipating seeing the A6 and the New Balances and other comfortable shoes like that. I did not think I was going to see that many on clouds. Because I don't know about you, Andy.
But for us up here, it's not that I don't see on clouds. It's not that I don't see people wearing them. But I don't see people wearing them like that. I don't go to the mall and I don't see... Right, right, right, right. No one's trying to pull off a fit in on clouds.
Yeah, exactly. And I mean, when you're going to a theme park, you're maybe not trying to get off a fit so much, like as more, you're just trying to wear stuff like I'm going to be here, I'm gonna get 30,000 steps and I need my joints to last. Yeah, exactly. Right. But like, you know, like if I go to the gym, I don't like, it's not that I don't see ons, but I also don't feel like I see them to that extent either.
Right. Like, right. You see one or two people wearing them here and there, whatever the case is, right?
¶ OnCloud Craze
But I was really shocked at the amount of people where I felt like almost every other person I was seeing, it was like, OnCloud, on, on, on, on. And different models, right? They have a bunch of different models. But it was really surprising to me how many people actually had that brand on. And it was funny too, Trev, because when I was in Cali, and I didn't get to mention this last week, same thing. And I only know OnCloud because you always talk about this shit.
So I'm out there, you know, we're at the outlet malls or whatever. And everybody's fucking on cloud or the Hoka. Hoka's the other one, too. Yeah. I mean, plenty of people rocking that shit. And I'm just like, what the fuck? Like, but different models and shit like that. And I was just like, what the hell is going on? Like, and as I said, I don't think I would have noticed them so much if you haven't spoken about them before.
Yeah. So I kind of knew what they look like. And I'm looking at them like, oh, shit. Like, everybody's wearing like on clouds, man. What's going on? They had a Hoka outlet. so it's just I mean you know times are changing so, if they're comfortable i'm sorry i need the shoe has to look good for me i'm so sorry man that's the thing you know i'll suffer bro i'll suffer man to look good.
I'll suffer for me the thing is that like i can wear that i can wear sneakers to work so i can do like the business casual thing so like for me the ons look really good with that and i the the one One that I have is specifically the on cloud fives. Okay. Yeah. Cloud five. So the laces are basically expensive too. They're not as expensive. Like this one, some of them, yes, some of them are, but I think this one is like somewhere between one 60 and one 80 Canadian.
That's not bad. Well, I'm not. I'm not. Yeah. But you spend $440 on some Jordans that are, that are uncomfortable, a hundred percent, but they look good with the toes. looking like this. Yeah, all fucked up and shit. All over the place. Yeah, man. I'm not there yet, Trev. I'm not there yet, man. I'm still rocking Tim's. I can't help you with that, man. You're just asking for your joints to hurt. Oh, yeah. They kill my knees. Don't get me wrong. They kill my knees,
man. But arthritis hasn't kicked in yet. Yeah, but if you do get the chance to try them, specifically the ones I recommend of the cloud fives because they're a slip on so they have at least they kind of tie at the bottom at the top but they're not like it's not like an actual thing you have to tie they just slip on and off super super comfortable like i'm love that shoe oh i never try i'm on it yes you do rich i sold it though.
Juan what about you i'm more like specific the thing that you know me i don't read as much but what's interesting to me is adidas improving in their running space because of like you know the olympics and all the marathon runners a lot of them has been adidas so that's why i'm interested because nike was blowing them out of the water with like like their running technology but i noticed adidas starting to like catch up dope you know that you want man though so that silhouette
that silhouette to me is one up there too but like i said i gotta go something fairly new it'd be you know like you like we said andy those pairs those pairs are dope i got the link to that you said i mean yeah those are tough those are tough just so you can see them a little better because yeah like the show you know with the light but yeah they're cool i mean i'm excited to see what they do like they could do a lot of fun stuff with that
sock upper you know some different like colors and things like that and some different stuff on those cages on the side i think i'm excited to see what they do that'd be dope i'll see someone someone in the league rocking a rocking those shits. I can see though, based on what they got going already, I can see somebody rocking those. Like I said, you can see, you can sketchers makes it into the league. Then these can definitely make it into the league. There you go. Fucking sketchers. Holy hell.
I never thought, man, the day we see sketches in the league. Holy shit. I know. I saw, I think it was a couple of years ago, I was at the Clippers Media Day out in Los Angeles, and there was this little sneaker thing. I can't remember what the player was, but he had a pair of the sketches on it. I was like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. What the hell about that? That's a big baller brand 2.0. He might get hurt.
Yeah, that's facts, man. I don't know about sketches, bro. I wouldn't do it personally, but to each his own.
What i was gonna say man but yo favorite favorite collab man this year let's let's go into that topic favorite collab this year so far where you at that one's tough because i was thinking about that yeah it's it's loaded but i mean it's if there's no clear cut like one then i'm just like yep that's it for me it's just there's been so many good collabs across all brands this year in my opinion you've seen a lot of dope stuff with asics i really loved the kith marvel you know pack
that they did i'm about to say yeah yeah those venom ones like that's my favorite one of the pack like i got those out the other day and was like these are like i know a lot of people don't like the asics you know a lot of us jordan heads don't like asics but.
Those are tough like they're they're really good and then i think the other pair of asics that was really good this year was the earls 2160s i think those came out earlier this year and the new zealand boutique plays homage to the maori culture and just the way that they incorporated that with the you know the design and the materials on the shoe was amazing yeah man it's tough to pick i mean action bronson new balance did some good stuff i love the nina chanel
jordan threes i like that pair and then these three these kids immigrants sunders like i know some people don't like the way they look but i love the those is tough the story behind those i love those i hope i can get both of those pairs because i think they're amazing and then even some of my sleepers this year collaboration wise was new balance numeric with their 480s skate shoe they did a bunch of good designs and collabs this year with like the the jeremy fish ones the 303
boards so like these guys that have like crazy detail like okay onto the back and like embroidery and like the this insoles.
Insane these numerics are that's crazy and then like the chocolate skate ones that have like you know i mean just let me see the bottom that's fucking sick yeah it's like that on the other shoe too i mean these are stellar and then the the pair that i just picked up hopefully it gets here soon as i think premiere skate shop based in michigan they got a collab with numeric and they did it based on like this like this mushroom that like grows like in their area and it's just.
¶ Adidas Rising
Like specific to them and they use that to like tie in like the local storytelling like cool stuff so i mean there's been a lot of and then jtips doing things i mean there's been across the board i can't i can't pick a single favorite it's so hard for me this year to pick one.
No fair enough fair enough and i think like i said i think a lot of the stuff that they've been pumping out too is it's just been hitting so it's really it's really hard to you know to really pick one to say like this is it i think we're in a creative space too where a lot of the claps that are coming out like you said it's just you know it's hitting the nail on the head you know they're taking different elements and different things and incorporating to these shoes.
And it's just you know all of them are different i agree too i think it's slowed down in terms of Jordans and kind of what we usually you know the norm and what we're seeing right it's kind of nice to see all these other you know we be kicking in a6 and New Balance back in all the time so you know for me that that kith pack though with you know the villains that shit for me is probably going to be up there even though I don't understand how Spider-Man
it's part of that because he's not really a villain he's not so that was my only great cool yeah that was my only great I'm like you guys there was so many other people you could have picked but I'm gonna go with that kid like For me, that Kith one is...
Is definitely up there they also did um which one i was really sold and it was like i don't want to like you know give into it because i mean new balance for me new balance were good a6 maybe not so much salahi actually did a new balance pair what model is that i there's so many numbers 5 30 maybe i'd have to go back and look i have them here i can't remember oh you got them downstairs here with me yeah the kind of that lime green one yes sir yeah the bamboo those shits are
tough like those are tough when i first seen them i was like if i was to get a new balance it would be those and i love how in the end for the new balance and how it has that the the salahi croc kind of like that pattern in it and then volt like i'm a sucker for volt so like anything volt i'm all in so that's another one and it's not like it's they're not like a super vibrant volt like you know you see it's like it's a mutant and it's like it's good like
He did a really good job. I love that pair. That's another one for me. If I was to pick one that I would actually buy, it would be that Solehe pair. I just love with his stuff, what he's done with Crocs. That New Balance pair was shit solid. Did you pick up a pair of those, the Juniper Crocs he did? I didn't. Juan, we spoke about it because Juan got them and he said they're bricks. They're heavy as fuck. Like, yeah, wants it. That's what I've heard.
Yeah, it's disappointing, man. I really want, I was excited to get them. And then when I pick them up, I'm like, I'm holding one shoe. I'm like, this thing is heavy. Like, I felt like there was a concrete block on my foot. I didn't even put them on because I'm like, if I'm holding it and it's heavy, that's a problem. And when we say bricks, we mean bricks in the literal sense of the term. They are heavy like bricks. Yes.
Yeah. It's going to be like the new, remember those strength shoes from back in the day? Yes. Yeah. Like this is the new like training shoe. It's so heavy. You know, you're going to get that vertical up wearing those. Yeah. It's funny because they hit the Crocs website and I was tempted, but I just like hearing that voice of Juan saying like, no, it's like wearing Timberland boots.
Don't, yeah, don't do it. which is unfortunate because i was hyped for that i was like yeah i'm all in like i need those and when juan kind of you know gave us his little review on him and she said they're heavy as hell i was like oh man it's unfortunate but um i love that new balance pair he did though so that's definitely one if i was to grab it would probably be that i think i would go with that for sure what about you said anything collabs for the year any thoughts not a lot of jordan-based,
collabs or nike i feel like they're like i feel like yeah it's like a6 new balance like heavy yeah i mean i feel like i feel like nike jordan has like you know travis scott's always but i mean but i feel like that at this point like i don't even consider it a collab anymore like he's like he's like part of the brand yeah he's part of the brand like he's like fucking uh what is it it's like i don't consider collabs anymore like how does i saw someone put like on twitter something
that's like yeah these travis scott jordan one they're starting to feel like easy 350. Maybe not quite that level yet. Yeah, I was about to say, I'm like, you're stretching. But we're on the way there. It's a bit of a reach. It's a bit of a reach.
¶ Favorite Collaborations
Jordan 1, easy. Nah, we ain't there yet. I'll take that Travis one any day over that. So, 100%. We ain't quite there yet. Damn, I did have something that I wanted to talk about, but I can't remember what it was. It's all good. When it comes to you, Trevor, we can double back to that.
In a worse class so far this year yeah come back to me i yeah no all good man um i guess we'll get into the basketball sneaker talk i know andy was a bit excited for that yeah sorry i think those shoes i shared earlier kind of covered multiple of these categories but yes but yeah so basketball. So I try to play at least once, sometimes twice a week still. Just obviously not as hard as in my younger days. Got to take care of my knees, you know. So I've tried to wear a few different ones.
My most worn that I've worn this year are the AE ones, hand down. I've loved playing in those. They're comfortable. They hug your foot. They contain your foot. It is a stellar, stellar performance basketball shoe.
And I think the thing that Adidas did so well with that, like it's it's threefold so you have the performance it's a great performance shoot no one's complaining about that second ant had a hell of a season last year and so people were seeing him you know watching him do his thing and then thirdly the marketing knocked that out of the park those commercials ads everything was great just kind of i don't know kind of ruffled some feathers and kind of got some you
know some interaction some fun interaction between nike and adidas like throwing like advertising jabs at each other which i thought was really cool, So yeah, AE1s have been a good one this year. I have really, I recently picked up the Jordan 39s. Okay. I know some people aren't liking those because they don't have a shank in the bottom, but those have been comfy. Really enjoy those, playing on those. Nothing really bad to say about those at all. Grip is phenomenal.
Maybe they don't have as good a containment, but then the last one is just these EQLs. I have yet to try the 360 model, that black one that I was showing you guys, but that one, I'm thinking that one's going to be better than the 247.
That I was talking about earlier just because I don't know it just feels like it's gonna my foot is gonna be a basketball sneaker like that's what it's gonna feel like that's the look it gives the AE ones is just one that like, they just hit it out of the parks with that like it's been a long time I think I think you when you said that they like they had a little fun banter with Nike I think we haven't seen that in a long time and it's specifically from Adidas
right right which is fun right because there's like that banter about like.
And edwards is just such a great player like obviously like you said he had a great season like you know just so many good soundbite moments from the season right you know like when they they made it to the western conference finals and charles barkley is talking about i don't think i've been to minnesota in 25 years bring your ass like that yeah and they put that in a commercial i was like that's amazing the city of minnesota actually made a tourism website that was bringyass.com like it's so
good like just so much good like such a such a marketable player in that sense and the shoes have just been so good like you know i remember the highs coming out i think i think what we did our top 10 list last year i think i had the ae ones is either an honorable mention or i had them at like number 10 or something like that i remember talking about that it was like ah you know what like it it's a really good looking shoe we
haven't seen something like that like I'm excited to see more marketing and more about this shoe but you know you've got a full year behind that shoe man he just hit it out of the park and I've kind of heard the same thing from multiple different people that it's just such a comfortable shoe like they did such a good job on the on the fit and everything great.
¶ Basketball Sneaker Talk
Basketball shoes so yeah it's what kids want now too right when I was in Florida you know it's cool like because we haven't really seen too too many of them up here the ones that are up here are the grade school models that's usually what i see sitting in stores but you know walking to a footlocker and they actually had like they had a bunch of e1s and all was cool to see so yeah it was i know you see online people saying that they never see anybody wearing them out and it's like i haven't
seen a ton of people wearing them out i have seen two of my students wearing them on feet this year though which was.
It's like ah these kids get it like yeah performance basketball shoe rocking it off the court like yes that's what it was about when i was a kid oh you we haven't seen that with anything in years like we haven't it's been a long time i mean maybe maybe like i'm trying to think the last one that we saw like kairi's maybe like with nike because i remember seeing kids wearing like the spongebob ones and yeah some of the cereal pack ones i mean lebron's had had their time too and then i just
can't think of anything i think after the kairi's it's kind of dried up because like you said they had the spongebob remember they did lucky charms like that whole bit like after that i really didn't see anything the 81s like i said i think it was one of my hot takes too like you know basketball sneakers and jeans like it's it's coming back like you know we're kind of going back to that time where you know fuck with with the the kd4s the lebrons that
era we were just rocking this shit was crazy when you think about it like the stuff we were wearing.
I feel like with the the 81s yeah like it's kind of going back to them like you're even saying like you know your students are rocking them casually as opposed to just on the court so that's a testament to that how that transitions off that's a beautiful shoe like i am you know and nothing gets inditas like i said if i was to buy one it would be that the shoe i think they like i said they just hit it out of the park colorways the low you know
similar to like with the lebron you know when he would do some of the the renditions of the low to me sometimes the low is better than the high yep absolutely so i just think that they they hit it out of the park with that and the marketing just everything which is very cool to kind of see that so yeah definitely nice it's it's one of those things where it's like the most egregious one for for me was i remember wearing lebron nines and jeans and thinking that i was the
shit oh trust me bro trust me laces all pulled down like you know yeah loose yeah you look what a time to be the part what a time to be alive man.
What a time to be alive is correct like you just thought it was such a good look and now you're like what was i thinking that wasn't it even kd4s man i had like a memory it's funny you know like your memories pop up on your phone yeah and i'm wearing like kd4 easters with like these big baggy jeans and i'm just like what the fuck was i doing that's the problem it's a big baggy jean Because if you had like a jogger on or something like that.
No, we weren't joggers at that time. No, it was jeans with those. Yeah. It was the biggest boot cut jeans you've ever seen in your life. Boot cut jeans. And I'm just laughing because I'm like, yo, what were we thinking? I'm looking back like, oh my gosh. And this looks terrible. And you know the KD4, it's like a load as a strap. Yeah, it's not a shoe that you can like chunky and space out. It's long and slender.
Can't do that with it. so it's just it's cool to kind of see you know coming back but the LeBron Nines I had so many too man I thought I was fucking killing it LeBron Nines.
There's a few but that's the one that always sticks out in my mind is like man that was just such a terrible fashion joke, yeah i think i think we were all there when it when it came to that so but i think the beautiful thing and if you know you know kind of like where you back to 100 and i think one of the beautiful things now though about like anthony edwards starting this up with you know like basketball shoes being more fashionable off the court
is that it's going to inspire other people to do the same like i hope whether that's you know eql or 361 or whoever it is like you're going to start to see and like, you know, you're going to start to see these things become a little bit more, have more off court appeal. And I think Kyrie had done that to some extent, one with the collabs. Actually, question for you, Andy, what do you like the mellow ball shoes? Do you see a lot of kids wearing that?
I've seen a few kids wearing that and I don't know if it's necessarily because they, you know, roll with mellow or roll with Puma. Maybe that's just because that shoe's affordable and it's available.
So I can't remember what the price point is on that, but it's pretty it's lower hundred dollar u.s it's got to be like 110 115 something right there so i've gone into the puma weed we just got a puma outlet up here at our outlet mall and then there's a few mellow shoes up there that were you know outlet prices so maybe that's that's it but yeah i i don't know his shoes are a little bit i don't like aes have had some loud colorways yeah but i think it
just works with that shoe better than the loud colorways work with like yes mellow shoe yeah because mel's are really loud like they are like the the aes might have some loud colorways but it's it's subtle all at the same time right like yeah it's like one looks like you know loud like i used to love loud colors when i was a kid you know i'd wear like lime green shirt purple shorts and like some red shoes you know like that was my third grade andy but that's that's that's you
can get loud colors on aes but the aes look like it's they're more of a sophisticated look and more of like a sleek and like aggressive look than those mellows one those mellow ones like look a little more like on the kid side i was about to say it's like it's like childish yeah like more like kid like where the the 80s yeah even like that pink pair you know what i mean like something like that but it's like it's still toned down like it's still
i think that black right because usually it has the black with whatever it kind of like.
Cancels it out a bit it's like the crazy stuff you see on phones right like that's why we love phones because you can be crazy and loud on that but that black like soft thing in the middle like yeah cones it down kills it well and the reason i'm asking is because we kind of talked about kairi's with like some of the spongebob lines right i think mel's probably the one that's done that best or kind of like kept that going so like he did the rick and morty he's
doing scooby-doo with his newest pairs now right done some what the pairs that have been crazy yeah that's every Every pair really feels like a what-to-pair. So what's it, Melo, though, man? He's doing his thing with the Puma stuff. And they aren't a bad shoe. They're loud. It's a nice silhouette. Yeah. I think you're starting to see that come back into everyday life.
And again, the reason I'm asking, Andy, I'm just like, are you seeing that as one of the basketball shoes that kids are wearing kind of as an everyday shoe, right? I think they're kind of like it's starting to get back there. And if you think about it, right, the shoes that we consider to be casual shoes now, right? Like Andy, no one can see this, but like, I mean, you got in your background there, right? There's some Jordans and stuff like that in that background,
right? That used to be considered high tech basketball shoes, right? Now you would never think to wear a pair of Air Jordan 3s to play basketball in or Air Jordan 1s, right? Like, you know, you would never do that now, right? But at one time that was considered to be the pinnacle of all basketball shoes, right?
So i i like to see that we're getting back to that because it at all at the grassroots of sneakers for most of us it started with a basketball shoe right right and i think you know i thought about it the other day too because like you know jordan ones was the pinnacle of performance but i feel like the pinnacle of performance and casual shoes they weren't very different from each other the technology just quite wasn't there
performance wise and so then like you fast forward to where we're at now with like you know crazy zoom and boost and like all this technology like a casual shoe and a performance hoop shoe were.
Farther apart than they used to be and so i think with that tech comes some less casual design elements that maybe turn people off but you know a shoe that i i thought kind of pulled both those together were the d books like his issue but i haven't seen those like i kind of feel like nike didn't do a good job with those like a rollout and the release of that because you saw him wearing all these like super dope like pe colorways like you had like a neon 95 colorway he had like some.
Other really sick colorways and then you just see the first release is just this super exclusive orange pair that nobody can get and then you have just this like super beige pair that's just okay cool so and now it's like you're starting to see some of those cooler colorways yeah start to trickle out but i feel like they should have led with that agreed i think that's the thing is that like you know book is pretty fashionable i would say off the court and i think that was kind of his goal was to
make it a good off-court shoe as well so i understand what they're doing with like the beige and that kind of stuff but you're right they led with all these super dope pe colorways that people are like i need pairs of these like i need a bunch of them and then everything that came out it's like well this is super plain well this is super boring like you know like like i get it like it's it's a neutral colorway that's the thing that's in you know like it'll go
with everything all that but it's like they have that like sunset or sunrise colorway where it's all purple and the bottoms kind of got like that's that fantastic great job with that shoe why wouldn't you lead with that yeah yeah that's and that's the thing i think the design wise i think they did a stellar job of doing performance and casual and trying to like bring it back down to that middle ground that i was talking about and but i just you don't hear people
talking about i don't see anybody wearing that shoe not on the court or even on the court like i don't see anybody with it.
I think we talked about it when we like traveling we were talking about pretty steady when it first rolled out and i forgot about them i didn't even bring it like you brought it up i was like oh the radar man like that's a signature shoe that that is that is around yeah just a missed, opportunities is kind of what i look at like you said with that pair yeah because i think had the rollout been better like probably probably would have been you know more well received yeah.
¶ Teaching Through Sneakers
Just just unfortunate for sure yeah i always the way they look it's just like the i call them the air force kobes because they look like the force one but it looks kind of like a kobe too, no definitely agree man it's nice to see that basketball shoes are coming kind of coming back into the mainstream basketball shoes kind of suck there for a little bit right like so it's nice to see and even with like the lebron's kind of circling back to a nicer model now
like don't personally love the 22 but the 20s and the 21s i thought were very well done as well so i did a good job on those i felt like they were getting like the ankle was getting higher and higher and higher you know when we get to the the 19s i'm like oh my gosh like these are unwearable we're almost going into air mag territory here like and then they come back with the 20s and i was like oh those are sick like i like the 20s and the 21s a lot the
22s maybe i just got to see the right colorway yeah I think it's the swoosh for me like that big swoosh and a little swoosh under it is just a very I don't know it's just off-putting to my eye.
I couldn't think of what the favorite collab was i'm i'm trying to go back to what i was thinking about like i have all these articles up that i was trying to look at and i can't for the life of me remember what it was this associate true well i think we'll skip i got yep yeah not saying when you want to cap it off okay i was gonna gonna cut unless you had another don't know.
Yeah no i want to cap it off with our shout out to the homie collie i guess it's more a question for you and he just in terms of we had mentioned the last time you've been on and just how you grown you know your page and things like that so how does that feel like you know i mean and i don't know and i don't know if you're getting seated pairs or any things like that like kind of where you're at now from when the last time you've been on like how has that transition been like for you
it's been wild it's been cool though because like i mean i still keep the same energy that i did when I first started like sharing, you know, sneaker stuff on Instagram is just, I'm just going to take pictures of the shoes that I like and explain why I like them and all that stuff in my captions. And so it's just been fun to just connect with so many different people.
And that like, cause even at the time when I started a lot of the sneaker, like content that was out there was all like focused on like crazy, like resale, crazy collabs. How much is this worth? And just hype, hype, hype, hype, hype.
And I was like, man, that's cool. But it's like, what's what that's not sneaker culture like yes there's hype and sneaker culture but sneaker culture is just appreciating like everything you know appreciating what little nuance shoes like these eqls right like those aren't hyped i love them just because the way they look the you know story about the brand and all that like it's just dope and so being able to just connect with so many people and have so many people resonate with
how i share content it's been really cool and then i've been blessed to you know take some photography for like under armor doing stuff like curry brand. Shout out Nuvo as well, a boutique that I do photos of for them sometimes. And then just, you know, one-off like little photography gigs that I get. And then every now and then I'll get a pair or two seated to me.
And that's the most rewarding part is just seeing like, you know, people show me love for what I do, not just because of like, because I'm like this famous YouTuber or anything like that. It's like, I don't put myself like verbally like this in front of the camera very often. And so it's fun to see people resonate with like what I do through photography and appreciate it that way. So it's been fun.
That's dope. That's so cool. So cool to see like your friends, like just have, I don't want, I don't even want to say glow up, but it's like just to see their page rise. Cause like, I don't remember the exact number, but I think when we had you on first, we were, you were like under a hundred thousand followers on Instagram. Right. And I think we sent the screenshot that you were going to be in just of your,
your Instagram page. And I think it was like 348,000 is where you're at now. Something. Yeah. And like, I love your photography. Like, it's just such a good, like, representation of all these shoes. Like, I think you photograph the shoes very well. There's a lot of good angles of them that I feel like when you see things on, like, a sneaker news or something like that, like, I feel like you don't get those angles. So you actually get a good chance to kind of, like.
Look at the shoe, see the materials and all that kind of stuff. But yeah. I love your work i think you do great work and it's like it's so cool.
To see like that brands are seeding you pairs now like even for under armor and stuff like that like again i like seeing a shoe like i like seeing all the different angles of it and that kind of stuff and i think you do that very very well thank you no it's it's fun i mean i think a lot of people in the content game like again i initially started just because i wanted to have fun and meet people because that was you know covid times we're all kind of bored as hell to
know what to do with our time so we were reaching out for everybody to like have some human interaction and so i think and it still rings true to now like even four years or so however long it's been since i started doing it it's just dope to connect with people just meeting people hearing their stories i can't tell you how many teachers like dm you like yo like i wear my sneakers to school too like this is dope like i love like just building like these little
like sub communities within like all these people that follow me and it's just it's been cool to meet with people and that's that's kind of the energy I still stay with it is just I just love meeting people talking about sneakers and just sharing that passion that we all love and connect or I forgot to even touch on that like the fact that you're a teacher and that you use sneakers to as part of your lessons I. Think is such a cool thing like oh yeah
because I just feel like it's something that everyone kind of like I don't know maybe it's maybe it's bigger than it was previously but I feel like it's just such a cool thing and I know Kev talked about this right like you know your teachers are in loafers and you know they're in some type of blazer right and it's so leaded pants you know yeah like it's just so rigid and you feel like you have nothing that they.
Can associate with you right that was our era growing up like yeah i had some teachers that i connected with but it was more like not because of like how they dress it's just like maybe it's just their personality or something but it it took me a while to like get to know get there now it's like i get the.
Yeah it's like mr dutton is the same like outside of the classroom that he is inside of the classroom you know minus some of the language maybe but like it's uh it's it's fun to incorporate what i love into what i teach because then i feel like kids like totally lock on and latch on to that because they see like passion behind what their teacher's teaching it's.
Not just like yeah oh here we go another lesson about whatever so like i teach my kids design graphic design photoshop stuff like that and so when we we're doing it right now we're just wrapping up our sneaker design with my students that's like the pinnacle assignment that i do once they've like mastered these these softwares and i'm just like all right guys like this is something i'm really passionate about obviously you know and then i focus really hard on having these kids not just like grab
like a travis scott and change the colors and make it crazy like i tell the kids i was like i want you guys to tell a story through your design so i give them a couple class periods to like do mood boards and all this stuff and like really like brainstorm we come up with a story that might be personal to them but they feel other people resonate with and then i show examples of like sneakers that have good storytelling and why people like them because of the story
not just because of the shoe and it's been really fun to see what these kids come up with and as far as how they share their story onto a shoe and you know i'm hoping with some of the people that i've been able to meet doing stuff on instagram being able to have like some people from industry like zoom in or something and like talk with the kids about you know design stuff so i've been trying to get aaron cooper you know eqls and nike trying to get him to see if he can have some
time to come and talk to my students i've talked with like phil who owns unheard of out in cincinnati he he wants to you know visit with my kids so any way I can bring in all of this stuff that I. Love and the experience that I love and give these kids like real world things.
Like that's what I'm all about that's freaking dope I I think that's such a cool thing like in the storytelling piece behind it like I know I know I think the first year you did it you had the Utah Jazz mascot come out yep just just a mascot I think it was right but like so cool that you're able to like present and you're able to present the kids with the shoes and like I love the Instagram vote that you do because it's always like i love reading like
what their stories were like was it was it a mac miller. Pair that won last year before that the the second one was like a mac miller pair like kid really loved the divine feminine one of mac miller's albums and and he did it on an sb low so of course that's gonna hit with people so he he knocked that one out the park and then and shout out my guy jsm 801 for you know bringing those things to life and working his magic on it and then the second one was a kid did like the whatever that.
Famous japanese wave painting is i can't remember what it is yeah yeah i think you guys know the one i'm talking about yeah he did he did his design on of that one and yeah it's been cool and i haven't looked through all the ones yet i wanted to wait till after thanksgiving break to see what the kids are cooking up this time so it'll be fun it's just such a cool way and like i was actually gonna that was the next thing i was going to talk about that you do was that
sneaker design but like i think it's just like it's it just opens the door and like i'll give you an example like in high school like you might have had like i went to catholic high school so we had uniform which we wore but we'd have civvies days right so dress down days or whatever you want to call them right so you might have a teacher who maybe one day is wearing i don't know like an eagles hoodie let's say or a steelers hoodie rich
like you know whatever right so you might you might start about that but like andy i like you post your fit your shoes and your fit every day right when you're in the classroom right like you're wearing streetwear every day right you're wearing a hat so like it might not be an eagle's hat but it's like it's a cool hat of some kind right like so you always have something on and it's just so relatable and I think when I got into sneakers within my high school I think there might have
been one two maybe three or four people who were into sneakers like I was completely on an island when it came to that kind of thing right but you.
Know what it's like when you see another sneaker head across the room right like where you're like i see what he's wearing like and immediately you have that connection with them right and whether it's like if it's not sneakers but if it's a basketball team or a football team or if it's like oh i like the sneakers mr dutton's wearing today right that immediately creates a connection and you're automatic like you just feel more comfortable
with that person because you're like oh they're into what i'm into yeah and i think it's just kids just see the realness behind it and I try to be as real as possible in the classroom with the way I interact with the kids and you know all that stuff not like you know shirt and tie like.
Speaking all proper doing all this stuff it's like no this is this is who i am like if you're gonna buy into what i teach you gotta buy into who i am and so and it just it just goes and you know i've been at the the school that i'm at now for 11 years so it's like i've been able to you know teach like siblings and like i'll have younger kids and it's like oh like my brother or sister had you and like you do the sneaker stuff you're the sneaker teacher and like all this it's
just like instant rapport like within the community of my school and it's it's fun like getting to know those kids getting to know their families like it's super blessed that's dope man that's dope yeah shout out to me call it hey that's one a good one yet thrown out there and i was like yeah that'd be good to kind of just tap in and see where you're at from when we spoke then and to now yeah you know what i mean yeah because that is because when you reached out i was like
man it's been a minute since like i don't know what these guys so it's been a minute man i can confirm the last time you were on was episode 98 so it's been it's crazy 108 episodes man almost halfway you know yeah that's crazy man that's crazy and salute to you man because like i said i i reached for the for the listeners i reached out to andy literally the the night before and you could have easily been like nah like you know i mean like no like just yeah i'm good you know come chop it up you
guys been a minute so i appreciate you um with that for you know coming through and you know even though you got the eagles hat on and shit like i said i'm gonna i'm gonna let that rock but you know no thank you for just coming through and this is great conversations. And like I said, it's just nice to see everything that you're doing. You know what I'm saying? Not just even in the sneaker realm, but just even with the children and how you're incorporating that.
Like I said, that's super dope to be able to just engage these generations. You know, it's always nice when we can kind of look like them. Like you said, to build rapport, if you look like I look like, then that just makes everything a lot easier. You know, so salute to you what you're doing and just kind of taking the element of sneakers and using that to you know, engage with the children that you're teaching, man. So. Thank you, guys. Of course. Thank you, guys. It's been a blast, man.
Yeah. And like that, that, that what's your I think the big thing is that like we talk about the younger generation of sneaker heads today doesn't know the history. Like they don't know where all this came from. And like just you doing something like that that is organic for your class and works and it like is a really good teaching moment. I think also gives them some history behind some of these sneakers.
Right. like so i don't know what the pairs are you talk about that have good storytelling on them but like so i i show this clip you guys i mean obviously we've seen the movie air right yeah oh yeah.
The clip in when they're in the boardroom when he's like when matt damon's like talking to him it's like a shoe's just a shoe until somebody puts it on like i show him like that whole clip the appropriate part of that clip that i can show in school i show i show that part in class so like and I was like I give the background I was like MJ could have gone to Adidas MJ could have gone to, Converse and then I like to say like Converse was giving him this Adidas was
giving him this and then I say this is what Nike was giving him Nike was giving him you know his thing and then from that they told that story and that just like boom like from there sneaker culture just, wasn't the same and it's just it's just a it's a gateway right because like most people don't see that right so you know we shit on the younger generation or like people who are like you know i want panda dunks or i want like a cooked pair of air force ones right but like some of that stuff
that like you give them the history on it's like oh that's interesting like i didn't know that and then you start to do more research and that kind of stuff right because when i started into sneakers like rich was one of like the first people i knew and then shout out to the homie brian with that on.
Bc both are like oh geez i would consider in the sneaker sneaker game right and those were the people that were in my ear with sneakers right so like i would say i have a very older taste within sneakers but that comes from both of them right because it was like that was the kind of stuff and when they were wearing stuff that i didn't know about it was like what is this i want to learn more about it like what's the shoe when did it come out why is it important
like that kind of stuff right oh yeah yeah and it's cool because like my kids like i see kids wearing jordans but like half of them probably don't even know like you know what jordan's did or why that's significant or anything right and it's like if i see a kid wearing black cement threes i'm gonna be like hey you know what signal like i'm gonna pull the kit i'm gonna have to like pull the kid aside like hey you know what those are you
know why they're special like let's talk like i'll tell you why those are special give them a little history lesson but yeah i think it's important at least.
¶ Sneaker History Lessons
You know in the sneaker world like to to have kids understand the the background of where all this stuff comes from but even just like in the world in general in what i teach it's just it's a cool way of you know incorporating what was done back then how that relates to what's being done now and how that can affect the things that they design and make so it's not like always just look at what's going on now when you're designing stuff but like look at everything like different
areas of way things were designed and stuff and that'll help these kids with whatever they choose to do you know design wise if that's something they choose to do. And I took I took some classes like arts, like arts, basically. And keep in mind, I was in high school like, oh, God, like 10 to 15 years ago. Get up there, Trev. It's a different different time a little bit when it comes to some of those programs.
Like, I mean, you know, we were just we weren't really getting into that Adobe stuff that I know that you talk about that you do with the kids. But it was more like I did some video production classes and stuff like that. And that was like considered to be high tech at that time.
But like we weren't talking about stuff like that like and it just wasn't real world experiences like I don't remember it resonating with me like I enjoy like video production I'll give you an example like I enjoyed that class but I don't remember having like things like that that were like really cool like I remember us recreating videos for like music videos like which were mostly mostly kind of lame if I look back on them now but I think creating a shoe
is such a like a unique thing and like tell a story with this like and that can go like that can take you down so many different rabbit holes like it doesn't even have to be within like digital graphics right it could be like within writing or anything like that it could be music it could like you know so love what you're doing andy like i just all that stuff is so great and i like i love how you you relate sneakers back to kids because i think that's usually something that most of
them are into or is important to them. So it just makes you such a relatable teacher. So. Congrats with all the success. We promise we won't wait 108 episodes to have you back on again next time. Hey, we already kind of talked about, you know, maybe, we're hoping. Well, you know, maybe. There might be an episode coming out in February, you know? Here you go. And I guess we'll finally cap it up with your Eagles talk. So let's go with some predictions.
Shout out to the homie Saquon. As I said, fuck the Eagles, but shout out to Saquon. Predictions. How y'all feeling? I'm always cautiously.
Optimistic as an eagles fan you know because i because the year the year that the eagles won the super bowl i was like well shit wentz is gone there goes any chance of us doing anything in the playoffs and then like nick foals comes in in each game i'm like i'll watch it but we're gonna lose then we win and then the next day i'll watch it but we're gonna lose and then we win get to the super bowl and he's gonna choke he's going against tom brady we're screwed and so but then that happens
and you know you just with the eagles you got to be cautiously optimistic because you can't like get too too excited because then it's gonna all blow up there's so much season still left to be played andy i don't know if you know this my father-in-law is actually an eagles fan so um my fiance will often pawn me off on her dad when there's eagles games on because she has no interest in watching like you take care of that yeah when we played the brazil game on the first week i was like oh yeah
are you excited to watch the like the eagles open in brazil she's like oh it's it's on a Friday you know why don't we go to my parents place you know you and my dad can watch the game but anyways I'm cautiously optimistic and he's kind of insane to me and I kind of agree this whole season it's like you know this is this is the year to kind of learn the new offense and defensive schemes there's low expectations you know like
but next year you want to really be pushing for a Super Bowl so playoffs would be nice but there's. It's a tough division, right? Like the Lions are also in our division and the Lions had a really, really good year. So, yeah, it's going to depend on playoff matchups. Cautiously optimistic is a very good word for it. But yeah, like it's going to depend on matchups. It's going to depend on who else is in there. And the other thing you have to keep in mind is football is also about who is
the healthiest. Healthy. At that late in the year, it's who's healthy, not who's who's the best.
Like yeah so it's it's some it's it's not the best team on paper that wins it's sometimes it's not the team with the best record right like i mean anyone can lose any game at any time right yeah there's one two or three times this year right so there's there's no guarantees on any given sunday, i mean if the eagles if the eagles don't go out of the nfc i hope the lions go and just get out of the shirt i want the lions and get a super bowl like yeah
that would be dope yeah i'm with you on that i'm excited for the playoffs i'm definitely excited for that but yeah you gotta kind of let the chips fall where they may right we lost we lost brandon graham last week for for the whole year so i don't know if he's going to come back next year now because he was supposed to retire at the end of this season but you kind of think he might be you know like it things things can happen he said about what six weeks left of the regular season
yeah i mean i think he was like a torn bicep so i don't know if he's going to be coming back anytime this season so he's yeah He's cooked. Nito. Nito. So, we'll see. Rich, you got the Steelers going to the Super Bowl this year? I don't know about that. I'm not that delusional. No, it's not Dallas over here. You know what I mean? Oh, man, they're bad. Oh, man. That's something we can unite on right there. Dallas fans get me every year, man. So, I'm not that delusional,
man. But Pittsburgh is looking good. They're playing well this year. so I'm happy with it. What predictions? For Super Bowl? Super Bowl, playoffs. I know it's too early, man. Like I said, I'm the same way. I've never been one to be like, yeah, we're in. No, fuck that. I know football, like I said, there's a lot of factors that come into play. I just week by week, man, for me.
¶ Eagles Predictions
I just think one week at a time. You want Justin Fields or Russ? Not Russ. Russ for sure. Russ. Okay. Yeah, Russ for sure. Fields is good, but I think he could learn a lot from Russell, from Russ. So I think Russ being in is the right play in my opinion. Just because I think ultimately Fields is going to take over. Like, I think that's the long game, like, for them. So, I think Russ kind of just, you know, that big brother, that mentor, I think him being in is the right play right now.
Absolutely. I have to say, when they made that decision, I was like, I don't know if that's a good decision, but... Nah, man. I knew it was the right decision. I knew it was the right decision. I knew, I seen the play. Like, I knew what it was. So, I wasn't surprised. I think it was great that he gave Fields the opportunity to kind of show and prove. But ultimately I'm like, I know they're going with Russ and it just made more sense.
He's a veteran quarterback, you know, give him, give him free game and he's going to be the future. I think of that organization. So yeah, it's the right moves. So, all right. See how it goes. Well, Andy, hopefully we have you back in February. If not, if not, then we'll be able to come back on anytime. And we promise we won't make you wait till, till we won't man. Till episode three, Yeah. Yeah. Come, at me again in, you know, late 2026. We'll do this again.
Yeah, man. We're going to talk though, Trevor. If the Eagles do some shit, I'm down. I won't be on that episode, but... Well, you're not invited, Rich. Yeah, I definitely would be on that. So, shout out to Petey. We're going to have to bring him back. We got a couple guys, man, that are Eagles fans, so it'll be really interesting, man, to see that. So, if that does happen, we'll cook something up.
Just know I won't be there, but we'll get it together hey it's the it's all the original supporters of being eagles we trust podcasts you know oh man this is dope man shout outs anybody oh man i mean i can't think anybody off the top of my mind right now i mean just shout out you guys like appreciate you guys like reaching out still doing your thing love i still listen to you guys when i can so it's it's always fun to hear you guys chop it up and thank you
guys for having me back on appreciate it man appreciate it man i appreciate that she's still listening to us man like that right i i appreciate it man and shout out to you like i said just the willingness to just you know come back on and chop it up you didn't even hesitate so appreciate you and like i said so much to you all the success everything that's going on with you man like we're always rooting like i said for our guys
and you know people that kind of tapped it up with us early and it's just nice to see you know people growing and the fruits of your labor so you know salute to you, salute to everything you do the kids, the school, all of that man so you know thank you, thank you for coming back thank you guys, appreciate it two shout outs for me first one, I know we shouted them out last episode we shouted them out the episode before three times a term,
make way I know they officially had that release, absolutely killed that too, that will likely be in my possession, that will be my next pick up hopefully in the next week or so, but shout out to those ladies. They killed that. You know what? I'll say this. If you think the Air Max one, the six is a grail because you need it because you're from Toronto and all that kind of stuff. The same thing goes for this shoe. It's part of that lineage of Toronto shoes. So you need that shoe.
It's historic that it's, you know, the first female owned and operated, I believe it is, sneaker shop. But they're Canadian and they're from Toronto. So that's got to be part of it. That goes with the Air Max 95 Toronto. And that goes with, I think it was a Toronto Air Force years ago, Rich as well. Might have been.
I can't remember any of any of those like a capsule collabs with New Balance like the Canadian tuxedo like you've got to have that as part of your Toronto shoes so shout out to the ladies over there second shout out we forgot to shout these guys out last week shout out to the homies over the shoe dog podcast so I guess it'll be three weeks ago three or four weeks ago now we had a week where we didn't put out an episode I think it's three or four weeks ago shout out to the homies uh tj and
q for uh for taking over an episode for us appreciate them doing that for us so i made it easy while i was on vacation as the episode was all set to go just had to upload it we didn't have to record so that was the homies and if you haven't checked that out that was episode 204 sorry 205 all right andy as we said we appreciate you jumping on with us again again promise won't make you wait 108 episodes before you get back on but appreciate you jumping on with
us and having a roundtable discussion.
¶ Closing Remarks
Absolutely, fellas. Thank you again. All right. As always, you can find us on Instagram at InKicksWeTrust. Make sure to use the hashtag InKicksWeTrust for a potential feature. And just a reminder, if you are listening to us on any of your favorite podcast platforms, please make sure to like, subscribe. Give us five stars, whatever the appropriate thing is to do on the platform you're listening to. Fill in some love, folks. That's it.
We found out recently, actually, Andy, that Apple specifically has made a change to their podcast platform. And you have if you weren't following a certain podcast, it no longer appears in your podcasts. Didn't know that. So yeah, that was a that was interesting for us to find out. So just a reminder for everyone specifically, if you're just listening to us on Apple podcast, make sure you're following us so that you know when we have new episodes coming out every week.
And you can find me on Instagram at Trevsky 63. Rich, where can they find you? If I'm on IG, growstatus13. And Andy, where can they find you? You can find me on Instagram, ad__sneaks. Awesome. Appreciate you having all with us, Andy. Guys, everyone stay safe and be well. We will see you all next week. Music.
