Take Two w/ Jenna Elfman

is like a podcast. Well, I don't know. Well, you do look really good. Wow? Thank you? Did you do it yourself? Yeah? Really? Come on? How did you get your hair looking like that? No? My hair. I had blow drive this morning. But I can't do if I want you, I just I hate it because it's my hair. I don't have to. Yeah, well you look good. How about your makeup? Did you about yourself? Yes? I did my own makeup. I used Jones Road Beauty. Oh yeah,

what do you? Thank you so much? You're welcome. I bought some under a different alias, and then you sent me some amazing things like incredible and it wasn't the same I bought, so that was great. There was no I love it so good. Thank you, thank you. Well. You know, it's so funny because we've reconnected after all these years on Instagram where you said something really nice and I'm like, whoa wait, Hi. So first of all, Hi, Hi Bob. So good to see you. Yeah, it's good

to see you too. Remind me because I don't remember how long ago we worked together. I think you were still on Darman Greg. Yeah, I think it was twenty two years ago. Oh my gosh, because it was Academy Awards after party. Oh my god, amazing memory. It's so funny when I think back at my life back then. I don't always remember the details, but I remember how much I liked working with you, always how easy or makeup was but to do because you're so naturally pretty.

But just how much I enjoyed working with you. Because there are so many celebrities I don't have those find fuzzy memories. Oh that makes me happy. Thank you, And it's the same, you know. I think one of the things that I that made me reach out to you again when I saw your post was just I was reminded by how sincere and genuine you are and and how much you care you know, And it's um, it's funny with beauty because it can, by default, it kind of can land in you know, a very sort of

self centered or sort of frivolous, you know whatever. It can go there, especially with celebrities or whatever, and your whole point of view especially I mean not for me to evaluate and tell you what your your point of view is, but what I received from your communication was just it was so much leaning into the beauty of being a woman, like the value in the world that a woman brings, and aligning that natural value, aligning the products and the application thereof and the whole concept around

it to enhancing the natural beauty of just being a woman. And and I just love that so much. And whenever you communicate on your social media, it's always encouraging women to find like there's something special for every single individual. Every person has their own magic. And I just feel like you leave into that and your products support finding that for yourself and and anyway, I just was like, ah, I love that so much, especially you know, aging and

and everything. And it's funny too. I don't mean to be on a rant, but like with with aging two.

To me, it's it's like improvement. Aging to me is an upward spiral, not a downward one, because I have so much knowledge and experience, and I have my own point of view and I know it's my own now, and it's just everything you said and I felt it felt so where my head and heart is at, you know, And I just wanted to acknowledge that when I reached out to you well, as someone that always interrupts people, I made sure I didn't because what you were saying

like means so much to me. And just ironically, my head of marketing, who is my son, has been saying, Mom, we can't put in words what you do and what you think and and so we're looking for a rand marketing person. But we just recorded everything you said. So I'm going to like play it for my son because it was it was said exactly the way I feel and think. And aging, first of all, like is such a positive. And I'm so much older than you are,

which I never realized. I mean, I turned sixty five this year, so you know, how how do you I'm I'm fifty now, I'll be fifty one in September. Okay, you know and like it's crazy. Fifty sounds so young to me. You know, it's crazy. You know it's crazy. And you've got two little boys. I do, but one just turned fifteen this wu and your son you work with your son. My heart just like totally skipped a beat because the idea, the idea of like, it must

be amazing, Bobby. You put all this time raising your kid and now they're working for you and you get to see all of the values and knowledge that you know landed, what didn't land or whatever. But to be working together, I was like, oh my god, it feels like a dream come true to me. Yeah, dream or you know, not the easiest thing in the world. You know,

you were who worked towards everything. Not only is my son who he's my my head of marketing, his wife, who's expecting my first grandchild, is the head of social So you know, it's a very interesting thing. But you know my yeah, I had little kids when I worked with you, and now they're thirty, two, thirty, and I did have a third of twenty now he's twenty four, and so you're in the fun stuff. Does it feel fun? It is fun. I was just before we before I

got up to put my makeup on. I was having an afternoon snuggle with my boys in bed, and I feel so lucky that they're twelve and fifteen and they I was like, okay, guys, I have to get up now, and they were like wrapping their arms around me, going no, Mama, more snuggle And we were just laying there watching the Office and laughing and stuggling, and it's I am in the fun zone, it is, but they're you know, preparing

them for life. Especially my fifteen year old. He's very like looking towards the job and driving and apprenticeships, and it's it's very I feel like all of the oil of motherhood leading up to this moment is now like going to manifest, and is the opportunity to point out all those things in the real world, Like really that I've been talking to him about. He has kind of something to compare it to. Now, you know it's not

just mom lecture lessons. Well, do you know that whenever he's rude or mean or whatever the moments are, it's because he's preparing to like be independent from you. I had to read a book the first time because I was like devastated, and it's really it's true, and they all come back you know, so is so plus thanks.

I know, I know, but you know, you burn and melt and sweat and worry and cry and hope, and no one thanks you till maybe they're in their twenties and they get out in the world and then they see maybe that not everyone is has values the way they do, where has manners the way they might, and then they call you hopefully and go, oh wow, I

get it now, thank you. I have some perspective. I called my mom because I was like, mom, my work ethic and people at the at the job really really appreciate um all the things that I do and you taught you and dad taught me all of that, and they really see that not everybody has that. I just thought, I don't know, and thank you. I get why you were strict. I get why you didn't let me party. You know, I get the curfew time. I understand, like, I get it, and I just was like, oh my god,

thank you. You know, I grew up here in l A. Here I'm in Austin. I grew up in l A. Are you a movie kid, like, were your parents in the industry? No, my dad worked for Huge Aircraft, and my mom was full time mom and would sometimes work part time jobs at the ballet studio, you know, where I was studying because I was trained to be a professional dancer, and I was a professional dancer. So my whole upbringing, every day after school, six days a week, was not at the mall or anywhere else, but it

was in the ballet studio training. And was Darmin Gregg your first big like breakthrough star moment. Yeah, I had just done one uh series right before that. That was my first series regular and before that was you know, just auditions and guest star roles and um for six

months before that. So and I had just gotten an agent, you know, UM, so that I did that one series called Town Knees and I got noticed from that, and twenty century Fox gave me a development deal based on my work on that and then gave me a list of writers that they had deals with and said, pick whoever you want to create a show for you amazing um. And so yeah, I had met with one set of writers and they were like, oh, we're really interested, but

we're already developing something. We have to wait till next year. And I just I could tell I felt I knew I had momentum, and I didn't want to lose the momentum. So I was like the next on the list, you know. And so um, that's how German Grand came about. And how many years were you on the air? That ran for five years, but it was you know, every every season was twenty two to twenty four episodes, so they

were big long nineties sitcom seasons, you know. And has your kids saying that the series, yeah, barely, They like really don't have any interest in watching me on television because I'm with them all the time. They're like, why am I watching you? You're sitting right here my mom, Like, I don't know, I know, you're yeah, you're funny. We have fun Like I don't need to watch you do something.

So every time I watch Fear the Walking Dead, you know, they're into the Walking Dead universe and they like that I'm in that. So they'll watch my episodes of Fear the Walking Dead. Well, it drives me crazy that the kids in my office, you know, if they haven't seen it on Nick you know Nickelodeon, Like I had Harry Connack Jr's kid in the office. I'm like that her father's Harry Connick Junior. They looked at me like who, I'm like, do you not know who Harry Conna Jr?

Like you you know, how do you not know who Blondie is? Like? Guys? So you know? But uh yeah, So what do you miss the most about that period? And what is the most fun thing that you are doing right now? Um? I think I don't know. You know, there's no social media when I was doing Darmind greg um, and there was a focus to the work and to the experience of being on set. The structure of doing press was very different, you know. The it was just you had you know, you had more viewers because there

were less networks. There was no streaming, there was you know, so we were doing like twenty two million viewers every week like that was regular. And I think I just I think I missed the power of the focused audience, you know. Um there was just something to that. Uh. And it meant something if you were succeeding on a show, it really meant something and it and it meant something

to your own contribution as an artist and everything like that. Um, what I love doing now that was the opportunity, the fact that I've had a long career and in my late forties, getting Fear the Walking Dead and having the opportunity to totally reinvent myself, to lean into human storytelling from my point of view as a woman now and um, and my character is incredible. What they write for me

to do is like such a blessing. So I'm really enjoying the fact that I feel like I'm starting brand new and everything feels new and challenged in the most incredible way. And and and it's a fandom and it's like a whole other experience and I really love that. But the fun part is that when I meet the fans from the Walking Dead universe, they're like, I loved you and Darman Gregg so they have this Dharma and Greg love too. And they've accepted me into this you know,

apocalyp post apocalyptic drama. And it's just that's been really cool and I feel so grateful. So who do you What do you hear most like from which place to people know? You know? Um, well, probably I get a lot of June from Fear the Walking Dead, but now it's a blend. They're like, oh, June, but I've always loved you since Starma, you know, um but you know Fear the Walking deads. I think Aims is one of their biggest international shows. Um so and Darmond Gregg was

in every country. So that's just been a really nice um blend of bringing audiences together that that's been really really great and I it means so much to me when because with Fear the Walking Dead, it's so character driven and your characters go through so much, and the the fans really really lean in with their heart and soul into your character's journey and they feel the emotions

you feel, they're right there with you. And so when you see people on the street and they and I love my character and I am so committed to my character, and I'm really into the Walking Dead universe and I love all of it. And so when they got June, I love, I love how you played that thing or that moment or oh my god, my heart broke for you, like they're invested, and I just find that so special and cool. And you, I mean, you want a Golden Globe and Emmy to Emmy nominations. So do you go

to the award shows now? Have because this is all for Darman Gregg? Right, Yeah, that was for Dharmin Greg. I haven't been only because I started having my kids, and I really I find when I'm at work, as you know, as any working mother knows, when you're away from them, you feel you should be with them, and when you're with them, at after a certain point, you start longing for. It's raising children's very creative, but you

long for also your own personal creative outlet. And so I just when I started having my kids, I didn't go to events unless it was directly connected to something I was doing, because I knew that when I am working, it's so hard being away from them. So when i'm not, I'm really with them. And even when I am working, I'm very much with them. They usually bring them with me.

It's easier when they were a little younger, you know, you can just tote them around and stuff, but now they've got their lives and their friends, so I really take time off when I'm not working, I really am with them. Well, it's so funny because I was just wondering because I'm sure when you are going to the award shows and you were younger, I mean, there was an excitement, but there also must have been an angst about what do I look like? Do I look good enough?

I don't know. You all worry about different things, like what did you worry about? And do you think you would still worry about the same things now? A hundred percent would not worry about the same things now, not even close zero. No, what I did worry about though?

I had that and i've you know, had time to look back on all of that now, And it's funny, it's almost childlike your anxieties when you go to event press events because you're you know, when you're a kid in school, you don't want to get in well, if you're a good kid, you don't want to like get in trouble, and you want to please people, and you want to be accepted and you don't and you want to be admired and all of these like panicky, weird

like why you know? And once you crossed the threshold for me anyway of like my late forties into fifties, I so understand the value of my own integrity based off of what I observed in my life and my own knowledge and knowing what I know has so much value to me and nobody can take it away or touch it, and it's gold and that to me, when I'm now on a red carpet or doing press, I am so in the pocket of my own experiential knowledge that I don't care what anyone thinks, you know, I'm

not there to please anybody. Um there experience. Yeah, and are you dressed differently? Did you try to fit something? And now you just know what you are and what works? Yeah. I wanted to like be you know, sort of I want people to dig me, you know, And now like I totally don't care if they do. And I dress for what sparks joy and what I love or what just feels fun, just because it brightens my spirit, and that has so much value. I think you really start

seeing what, what does, what's valuable, what is important? Like what actually is gold and what's fool's gold, you know, and getting approval from others as fool's gold. It's it has it does the next day, they're not there with you, nothing nothing they they're not there with you in the hard times. Impressing them has no long term meaningful value you because they're not there when life gets hard, and when life gets hard, you're there with your own abilities

and your true friendships. And like, to me, that's the gold. Well, it's funny because the invitations fly in, you know, after COVID they fly in, and it's like, do I have to go get an outfit where I'm going to be uncomfortable and get my hair done, in my makeup and worry about it, or can I just go to my friend's house for dinner, you know, with wet hair and a ponytail. And it's like not even I don't think twice about it. Where I used to like, oh my god,

I should really be there. There's gonna be all these great people, and now I'm like I don't want to do it. You know. It's like to get me somewhere, it has to be like a value add for me personally. It's like I want to be with other women who are helping other women who are powerful and who are smart and not just you know, wearing a flower dress

and twirling. So totally yeah, yes, yes, I feel like if there's you know, very interested in people, like I just think people are very interesting and um, you know, if it's an event where I feel like I'm gonna learn something or I'm going to have a great conversation,

even if it's like a superficial fluff event. But if there's someone I know that's going to be there that I can like have a really great conversation with and like have a takeaway, especially like a great woman who I admire or something that I wouldn't have the opportunity to have that experience otherwise, then I'm like, yeah, maybe you know, like you said, where you can have a

great conversation, there's a takeaway. It's it's it's an enhancement or can I you know, am I going to be speaking where I can maybe enhance someone else or inspire somebody to make the world better because I don't need the like green check mark of who wore it best? Like I. It's like, yeah, you also have a change ability to parent or joy and you also have this long term relationship marriage with your husband. Um and it's

his real name Body, Yeah, born and raised Body. He had a very hippy mother, yea from like was he from like Colorado or something or a heart of Hollywood like sunset and conga. Wow? Okay, And and what are the you know, what are what are the challenges trying to like figure out, you know, how to make him happy and your kids happy and your career and forget about the fourth thing, which is you Like, I'm only asking because I understand it, but what are the challenges

for you? Yeah? Uh, you know. A long time ago, I happen to read this article, this interview with Madonna and a fashion magazine, and it was long before I had kids, but she had kids and they were young at the time of this article, and I just this lodged in my mind. She she was just because she was asked the same question, like, how do you do it all? How are you Madonna and a mother? You know? And she said time management, and that just like stuck in my head. And I really really have become a

big fan and user of time management. Uh. It's amazing what you can get done in a day if you're organized enough. Sometimes I had a protest about being too organized because it just felt unfun to me. And I'm much more fly by the seat of my pants if I, like, if I didn't have other people who like needed me to fulfill certain needs, I would just float through my days enjoying the spontaneity of life. That's my happy life. But there's too many things that need to be in harmony.

So it's really It's taken me a long time to find my my best working practice for being organized, and it sounds really technical, but I'm going to share it here because I never know if there's another one. It took me forever to find a work system for me,

and I finally found one. It's very administrative, though, but I finally figured out because I'd have like too many to do list because I wear so many hats, and I thought we'll have a to do list for each hat, and then it's like, well, that's way too many pads

of paper. And so what I ended up doing is I made a preprinted daily form that has all my hats on it, all my areas of demand, which you know, um, from homeschooling my kids and their needs of doctor appointments and whatever, to my own podcast, to working on my own script, to my own doctor appointments, to exercise, et cetera, nutrition, And I have one big old to do list, and every day I pulled from the big to do list, and I have on those things, I have little time

slots of when what time am I going to do this today? And I planned my days with this pre printed form with all of my things on it is because that's the only way I was getting it done. Yeah, but how can we access this form? Like where could you make this form? I have it on my UM I had and I printed out and it's my daily form, so mad itself. Yeah, just using pages app on my Wow, Well that is that is definitely something that you know, being an entrepreneur. I'm like, okay, we could, we could

brand that, Jenna, we could definitely. Yeah. Yeah. But as I'm listening to all of this and I've you know, got my own things. What the person that made the biggest difference in me being a mom and trying to figure it all out and trying to be missed is perfect. I was on some panel with Tina Brown and someone asked her the question, how did you do it all while you were doing Vanity Fair and this and that? And she said, do you want to know? And everyone leaned in. She said it was a mess. The whole

thing was a mess. It was a ship show, it was And we just all sat there with their mouth open because everyone always seemed like they had it all together and we didn't. And yeah, Bobby, tell people the truth. Some days we're good, some days were not good. So it's Oh yeah. Then some days that whole thing goes out the window because is one kid's got a headache and wants me to lay in bed with him and

rub his temples. And I'm just like sitting there and you know, in inside, I'm like so happy because nothing makes me happier than just hanging out with my kids and like snuggling with them. And I'm so happy to throw the to do list out the window and set it on fire. Like you know, I only have that to do list. It does not bring me joy. It does not something I look forward to. It does not turn me on or light my fire. I hate being

that organized. I hate it so much, but it's a necessity because too many things will fall by the wayside, and how many it is. But how do you homeschool the kids while you're like a TV movie star, like

explain that to me. Yeah, my brain feels like it's bleeding sometimes, and uh, you know, hence the list, because I don't know how to do the workouts, focus on my what I'm eating, do my other podcast, prep the show, home school let alone, you know, dentist appointments and little um so I have checklist for the kids with all their subjects and I write out what they're doing that day. Uh, and then I go off to work and my assistant has been getting them through and then yeah, no I'm

not working, I'm doing it. You know. If if I'm filming, she's doing it. My favorite part of the day was drop off. Yeah, let in the car, guys, come on, we gotta go all right. Yes, there is a bit of like it rolls off you when you get to put somebody else in charge for a few hours. So I know, so okay, there's so many like aspects of you. I want to hear about your podcast and you do

that with your husband. Yeah. So we've been together thirty thirty one years something like that, and people always ask us how do you do it? Especially in Hollywood, you know, and we just go kicking and screaming because that is how we get through it pretty much. Um, we're best friends.

But we just decided we had always wanted to do a scripted comedy about marriage because we feel like marriage is either represented in television and like ha ha ha cute sitcom or like marriage is the worst thing on earth single camera drama, and there's never been a show that like captures all of it, because relationships are all

of it. It's all of it, as you know. And I had always just been on shows, and so we start a podcast to just start talking about the area and create material for writers for if we ultimately do a show, and it kind of got its own legs and people love it and we're just it's a humorous take. We talk about our own issues. We talked just about the politics of marriage, the double standards in a very conversational, humorous way, much like you and I are doing here. And is it where do we see it? Is it

on What's Your Who's Who's? Yeah? I have it on my YouTube channel, the Jenna Elfman YouTube channel because we film it um. But you know, people can also listen wherever they listen to their podcasts, and it's called kicking and screaming. All right, I will and I will absolutely maybe my husband I will listen to it on the three hour drive back and forth from New Jersey, you know, yes, yes, yeah. And then the other I would really love to deep dive in is how do you take care of yourself? What?

What is your nutrition, what's your exercise? What have you tried that didn't work? And what has made a difference. Yeah, I feel. You know, it's funny if you work on anything long enough, the things that don't work kind of start fall by the wayside, and there's those constants that always stay working. Um hydration is a mega one for me. You know, I don't drink. Maybe a couple of times a year. I have some wine, but I really don't drink. I notice it ages me so fast when I drink um.

I know wine has got the antioxidants and whatever, but it im when I mean, it just ages my skin so fast, Like in a week, My skin changes if I have wine a couple of times a week. It's crazy. What do you do, like when you just need like a break? Are you? Are you? I go for you know, no, I don't. I don't smoke cigarettes or weed. I did that when as a teenager, and I put smoking years ago for vanity reasons, because I started seeing the wrinkles around the mouth that you can't get rid of. So

I stopped. I go for a walk and I look outwards and I get extroverted. Um, because you know, when you start getting stressed, you're super introverted. And so I find a good walk of looking outwards, not looking down at the ground, looking at my thoughts, but really genuinely looking at the world around me really helps bring my mood up if I get overstressed. Um. I also throughout the day, I found what really works for me is I take little ten minute breaks and I go away

from everyone. I'll sit on the front porch or go sit out on the deck or wherever. If I'm at work, I just go away from people and I just walk or I said, I'll just scroll through my Instagram or do nothing, stare at a treat and I just shut off. I shut off all of my mental stress and I just I totally let myself just be in that moment um, and it keeps me really calibrated. I found I take these little ten minute breaks throughout the day mental Where did you learn this? Just? I craved it. I just

found it worked for me. I just would find this need to to seclude, do you know, to go away from stimulus? Because I found, really with social media and smartphones, how much I think it's very insidious. What can happen to your bandwidth, your own you're scrolling from, whether it's news which I won't even look at anymore, um, Instagram, face, whatever, these things are that people look at on their phone, your mom, you're it's like re nine passion magazines today

and newspapers and like all day long. It's weird if you think about what we're putting our attention on all the time. It's very dispersing because you'll look at something and then you close your phone, you walk away, and all those mental pictures are just stuck to your mind, you know, And so then you you're literally diluting your bandwidth and your reasoning power and your self calming power because half of it is spread out over these mental

experiences you just had scrolling on your phone. But we don't realize it. It's really really insidious. So I I really spend a lot less time on my phone. Um because when you were saying, you know earlier, what do you miss? And I was talking about there's no social media. Back when I was doing GREG and like you know, the schedule, just living life, there was more of me

totally present at any given time in any conversation. Working on my script was much more folks, This I wasn't constantly and then you know, read a few pages, then scrolling on my phone and read a few pages. There's a power to me of just doing what you are doing while you are doing it and not diluting it constantly. And it's like breaking up a pie into too many

pieces that it falls apart. Right. So I think of myself and my own management of my mental attention kind of like a pie, and if you cut it in too many parts, it's just it's not viable. Like my my reasoning power, my solution thought process becomes less viable and potent when it's dispersed. So, uh, that's that's something I do and I that's one of the things that really works for me. How about the way you eat and nutrition? Because you say you put that on your list,

So what is for you? Um, I'm not a Yeah, I don't know what it is. If it's just getting older, if it's logic, if it's motherhood. I can't like restrict myself so much. I don't know it's a pandemic. But I I'm not big for I can't starve myself. I can't do like minimal calories. I'm just like no, I like food. I like eating. I enjoy delicious things. It's one of the moments of joy throughout my days. Delicious food it's happiness. What have you eaten today? What have

you eaten today? I had um some oatmeal at breakfast, and then for lunch, I had a huge bowl of steamed uh um cauliflower and boiled potatoes with olive oil and salt and pepper. And I have my protein shakes, and I like beans and rice and soups and sometimes meat, but not very often. I love tofu shakes and stir fries, and I you know, I'll have a bowl of pasta every now and then. I don't do lots of breads um, but I do. If my kids eating a sour dough toast and it looks amazing, I'm gonna have my sour

dough toast. But I try to eat whole grains rather than processed foods. But then I also eat my chips if I'm at a baseball Yeah, I think. I think now it's called intuitive eating. Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't over focus. There's just some common sense to it, you know. I think if you're eating a lot of like crap food, I mean, you know, just have your vegetables and just be have some common sense with what

about ex um? I do treadmill and weight lifting, and uh, I have a row machine, so I do circuit training. I swim and tread water. That one I find is incredible. Luckily I have a pool so I can just hop in and do that. But treading water has been unbelievably toning for me. UM. I don't enjoy jogging very much. I don't like the high impact, but I can walk for hours and my body loves it. Um. And and you know sit ups and the road like I said, the row machine and lifting weights and you know a

lot of that, like sort of cross fit. I suppose I really love pilates, but I don't find it very convenient to go out to a pilates place and do my lessons at this point in my life with filming and homeschooling and commuting and um. But pilates, especially with my ballet upbringing one pilates lesson changes my body. It's crazy, but I noticed not much. My body doesn't change as fast as it used to. Like I had a stomach bug recently. I think I may be consumed five hundred

calories in three days. Like I could I couldn't eat. I had a fever like I don't know what it was, and I lost no weight. Wow, it was a bummer, you know, because usually that's the perk if you have to go through that kind of hell, at least you come out a couple of pounds lighter. And I got nothing out of it. It's like the metabolism totally changes at my age. It's it's I don't know how it is for you, but something ever, but you've never had

a weight issue though, you've always been one of them. No, but like, yeah, I'm twenty pounds more than I normally am right now, No way, that's not even Well then maybe you were under but I, you know, gained probably about twelve to fifteen pounds during the pandemic and I have since lost it. So I have no choice but to just eat less healthy and healthy and good. But I have to. It's just it's it's honestly, there's no secret to weight loss. You just have to eat less

than you are consuming. That's the you know. Unfortunately, that's it's a math problem. So it is just it really is and moving and you know, the body must move. It's not meant to sit around the body is You're rigged and created for motion. Yeah, and then just because I'm always very curious, like to have any favorite brands of jeans or T shirts, like like anything that you're like, oh my god, these are the best cotton underwear, the best cotton anything, like what do you what? What do

you got? Yeah? Well, you know, I okay, so well I always were haiky panky and these because I just love them and they're super comfortable. Um, I've really gotten into Banana Republic. This jacket is Banana Republic and it's I'm sorry, I just have to show you really fast. I know it's an audio podcast. How great is this? And they have like linen shirts that are just bitching for the hot humidity here in Austin. Um. Uh, I do a gold eagle e egle jeans. They always fit

me great. Um, I have many a pair. Um. Then I switched between a couple of side is, depending on if I want a tighter fit or a boyfriend fit. Um and uh I wear notry T shirt bros. All Like that's all I just missed on a loop. That's what I get. Um, And I think that's I'm a jeans and T shirt kind of a girl, or sweaters and bags and boots in the fall and winter. I love just great jackets and coats and um boots, you know, but you're like, you're in Austin. When are you gonna

wear them? Like, isn't it hot? Well, it does get wintry. We had that snow apocalypse here. Um it did get like six below with tons of snow for a week. It was crazy. That was an anomaly. But it does get cold in the winter here for a couple of months. But man, it is I do the kind of the only thing I miss about l A is the weather, the dry, beautiful sunshine. I'm going through this week and I'm really for my husband's birthday. We're just gonna go

spend some time together. I don't think we've been away. We've been away once for a few days without the kids in fifteen years. Oh my god, that's crazy. Other than that a night, we've gone away for a night, but that's it. So we're going away for like five days for his birthday, just to go to Dodger games and see our friends. And um, I'm gonna go visit

my mom and I'm really looking forward to that. You know, I think I don't let myself be away from my kids much because I don't you know, you always here's the thing for me as a mother, as I always hear women say, it's just crazy how fast it goes, and then one day you're like, where did it all go? How did it happen? Where was I? How did they grow up so fast? And they feel like they weren't

there for it? But you work so hard as a mother that I don't want to have that, like that's my pay for working so hard is where did it go? I don't even know what happened. No, I want to remember everything that happened, and I'm gonna be there for it. So I don't really go away from my kids very much except for when I'm filming. Well, so I think this will be nice week. Well, you've given so many nuggets of advice to people listening, and I've written I've

written many notes in my head. But I want to ask one last question for you that for the people listening, if you could tell them right now what they could do that's going to change something in their life according to you, what would it be? Um? I think it is too. It's an it's more of a daily discipline because I don't think there's a magic anything for anything.

I think it's a discipline, which is to really be conscious about staying true to your own integrity, and the integrity is knowing what you yourself are observing at any given time and permitting yourself to know that that is what you are observing and to stage to it no matter what. And daily exercise. But I think we don't think we have the rights to our own minds and our own souls and our own hearts the way we

actually do. And to take back that ownership over what you observe to be true for yourself as a daily exercise, I think is one of the most healthy and beneficial exercises to do. Well. Thank you so much, and um, it was really really, really really fun to connect with you. And I hope one day to go back to our past and do your makeup somewhere sometimes so I would love that so much. I would love in a new a new moment to address my face um as it is now. That would be really cool, all right, well,

because keep being happy, all right, but I will. Thanks for listening. Follow us on social the Important Things podcast on Instagram and just Bobby Brown on TikTok. See you guys next time.