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from Arkansas. I when it's primary easily last week. He is also the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee and chair of the House Republican Conference. Senator, thank you for joining us. Before you were a senator, you were a congressman. Before you were a congressman, you were a soldier. He is fought in iraqiught in Afghanistan, and you served with the Old Guard at Arlington. So the seven US Army soldiers who've been killed in this combat have I'm sure
near and dear to you. What do you assess the war as? How is it going? Given the casualties we've had and expect.
Oh, Hugh and and I join all our kansons and grieving for those seven heroes who were killed and wishing our best condolences and sending prayers to their families.
But they have not died in vain.
This is an.
Absolutely vital and necessary war against a revolutionary terror supporting country that's been killing Americans for forty seven years, to include maiming and killing thousands of other soldiers who served in Afghanistan back in the same time.
I did so.
We always grieved the loss of our heroes on the battlefield, but this war was vitally necessary, and so far our brave and skillful troops have been met with smashing success. You saw the briefing that Admiral Cooper dave last week that gave you the best information you can know about the successes so far, which is Iranian raids of fire
have collapsed from the first days of the conflict. That means we've been extraordinarily successful in destroying their missiles, their drones, and their launchers, which was one of the very top objectives in this campaign. Obviously, he continues will continue to target those forces, their navy, their communications, the regime thugs like the Seas militias, the Cuds force, the Revolutionary Guard core that spread and foments revolutionary violence and terror and
oppress their own people. There's still more work to be done, But a week and a half in, I don't think it could be going better for our brave and skillful troops.
Sarah cottin ten days in. We also now have a new Supreme leader. How many two point zero or at least half of how many two point zero is said that he had been seriously wounded in the attacks thus far. That is a break with Homini, the founder of the regime's theology. The fanatics said we should not have hereditary succession for Supreme leader. I think that causes stresses inside of the regime.
Yeah, you hear, You're right about that. There's always been always in the official position that the Supreme leader role should not be hereditariat be selected by the so called assembly of experts, who are having tough time assembling right now in peace and quiet thanks to the United States and Israel. But I can't help but imagine it does cause some internal dissension and rivalry within the ranks of the senior leaders of Iran who oppose out on ideological
grounds or perhaps on personal grounds. And that about you right now, I don't care how radical and fanatical. And I tell a lie I was, I'm not sure i'd want that job title. Well, the US and Iran is still owning the skies above Iran.
Another the Admiral gave and update on the sinkings last week that is now out of date because another one occurred today or two occurred today. Open Source Center. Do we know anything about their underwater navy? That had five regular submarines diesels, at least one of which has been sunk, But they had a lot of submersibles and things like that. I know we have pH flying out there. What do you think about that? What can you tell us about that?
Yeah, they do have sizeable naval forces. Now they're what you and I and most Americans might call more of a coastguard. A lot of these ships, to include some of those submersible as you mentioned, are smaller. Some of them are autonomous. They're not designed to be on the blue blue water seas, to design for the Persian Gulf and the Straight of Four Moves, And it's one of
our objectives as well, to think their entire navy. It's not as urgent objective because they can't project They usually can't project power against our bases or against our friends in the Middle East. That's why the missiles and the drones and the launchers were the first objective, because we needed to take those out to protect our troops and
to protect our friends in the region. But in the end, I expect to see Iron's navy at the bottom of the ocean, so they can't continue to threaten shipping fubustraight of for Moose.
All right now, Sarah, I want to turn to funding the combat. It's been expensive, It's going to continue to be expensive. We had a big plus up in the defense build, but we need more. And I was asked by Brian Kilmead last night, what about its elemental I don't think it gets sixty votes, given that the Democrats are turning into part of the appeasement, could a second reconciliation that focused narrowly on the Department of War actually make it through the House and the Senate always possible?
With you, I wouldn't necessarily rule out a supplemental bill, although you're right the Democrats amazingly at a time when no one else in the world is supporting a rime, not even their former quasi allies like guitar or Oman or Turkey. The one group left it supporting a rime in this conflict and rooting for their success. SMS to
be the Democratic Party. But there's no question that after this war concludes ns operas a Trump statement today that it may include sooner rather than later, because they're even ahead of their timetables. There's going to be need to be some kind of additional defense spending, especially to replace the very expensive, very high end long range stand on munitions that we used in the first twenty four to seventy two hours, things like Patriot and fat missile defense interceptors,
prison missiles, Tomahawk missiles and such things. We need that not just because of this conflict, but we've always needed a lot more of it because of the conflict in Ukraine and the ter China from going for the jug dealer in Taiwan.
Let me ask you about Cuba center, since it's been a light with fires and revolt in the last few days, what do you think is our plan for our island's neighbor.
Sorry, you're breaking up a little bit.
What do you think is the plan for Cuba, which has had revolution in the streets in the last few nights.
What did Doesident Trump say about it last week? Voluntary transfer or along those lines easal handover look, Cuba has never been able to support itself since the Castro Revolution. For around thirty years, they had supportive Soviet Russia. Soviet Russia provided them financial ACoM support, They provided the shock troops for communist insurgencies in Latin America and Africa. They were on the ropes in the nineteen nineties up to
the collapse of the Soviet Union. But then Hugo shaves through my lifeline in the late nineteen nineties and ever since, Venezuela has been propping up the cast Grow regime. In return, they provided security to the Chavistas in Venezuela, although that security proved not to be very helpful during the Maduro
raid when a lot of Cubans were up dead. On the objective, I think without that support from Venezuela, Cubans government and really to its entire economy just seizes up in a matter of minds, And I think that's what the President is talking about, like literally, they can't survive
without that support from Venezuela. So I would imagine that there are people in Havannah right now, imagine thinking of themselves as the Velz Rodriguez of Cuba, or wondering if they can get one way tickets look to join Bachelor Alasade Costcoal.
I agree. Last question, Colleague Mark Wayne Mullen. I got to fly on Thursday. I gotta fly on Saturday. We need DHS up and running. Does he have the votes? How quickly can he get confirmed?
I assume that's going to be a priority, I think for the Senate, Hugh. The President said that Secretary No would stay in the job until March thirty. First, that's just about the time that will break to be back home with our people during Easter. So I would imagine the administration is working over time to get all of Mark Wayne's papers lined up and up to the Home on Security Government Fairs Committee, and we'll do everything we can to profess his nomination expeditiously.
Senator Tom Cotton, No, it's good to talk to you and get all the info. I appreciate it very much. Welcome back in America. I'm Hugh Hewett, joined now by Fox News' own Lucas Tomlinson. He is in the war, He's in Dubai, Lucas, what is the day like today? Has the UAE can you had to come under attack from Iran.
It's been a little quiet in the past twenty four hours, Hue. That doesn't mean it's been quiet since this war in Iran began. In fact, Ua has been the main target for Iran. Iran has fired over fourteen hundred drones at this country about the size of South Carolina, and has launched over.
Two hundred and fifty ballistic missiles.
The good news, the Amuradis are intercepting all of Iran's projectiles to the extent of over ninety two percent have been shot down. But it has come at a cost, and it came at a cost. Today an Amaradi helicopter crashed while intercepting a drone, likely an Apache gunship, because two soldiers were named as being killed in the crash. So that is something that Iran promised that if there would be a war, they would start a regional one.
And what's happened is here in the Gulf States is every country has come under attack from Iran, but there the air defense has been very strong this far.
Lucas, Iran fired a missile at Turkey today, Air one the president of that country express dismay. But that is an Article five issue, is that it doesn't the rest of NATO have to come in now.
It sure is if Turkey were to invoke Article five, and of course goes to a bit of a bureaucratic process, Hugh.
But you're right.
The Turkey is a NATO member and they were attacked, and they certainly can it's within their right to invoke Article five. But if you're relying on the British forces, as you've seen, could be waiting for a little while because they only have a few service combatants ready to deploy. In fact, one of their destroyers top twenty three destroyers, which is only good for air defense. Right now the
Royal Navy, Nelson's rolling over in his grave. We only have about ten service combatants that they can muster, and all their destroyers and frigates are only for air defense, which would come in handy of course in this war, but cannot fire long range cruise missiles. You see Prime Minister Kure Starmer there. We heard President Trump say that
he's no Churchill. But the French are deploying their aircraft carrier to the eastern Mediterranean, which will be strategic because the Ford aircraft carrier Strike Group has been moved over the weekend from the Eastern Mediterranean transit of the Suez Canal is now in the Red Sea in case the Huthies would get involved. That brings two aircraft carrier strike groups to this part of the world's the Arabian Peninsula.
So Lukas, one of the people in Dubai tell you about this war. Are they glad they're finally coming to blows or is it? Are they still too worried about the fact that the Islamic Republic has gone Yosemite sam on everyone.
They're not happy things have come to blows to you. But officials I've spoken to says this is an attack on Dubai's way of life, the UAE's way of life. This is a very open society. Here is one of the wealthiest cities in the world. In fact, right behind me you can see the Burgh Khalifa. That's the tallest building in the world, one hundred and sixty three floors. Most of the people here, we've seen that Dubai Malas is behind me as well, are carrying on.
But this is also a hub of tourism and right.
Now the hotels are taking a beating, if not physically from a couple of those drones.
Really an ox been seeing, Hugh.
The hotel some of the hotels have gone from about sixty percent occupan seed down to thirty percent. Some hotels we've heard about have gone down to one percent. And these are hotels that are normally matched out you know, ninety eight ninety nine percent. So the people we've talked to you on the street, if you were walking along, you wouldn't always think you're you're in war right now or in the conflict in the crosshairs of Iran.
Again, that meant those stats once again.
Iran has fired over fourteen hundred drones of this country, over two hundred and fifty blisting missiles. Most have been intercepted, you hear, I've heard some of those intercepts this morning. But for the government, they also think there's an attack on their way of life. It's also proximity, Hugh. At the closest point, the ua is only forty five miles from Iran, and as you've seen with the thousands of drones that have been launched, UAE is a big target.
Of course, the signer of the Abraham accords from President Trump's first term. Iranian say they're attacking any country where there are American bases. Of course, you have Aldafra Air Base for as we kept our fast movers, our fighter jets, but no strikes against Iran have been launched from the UA. Of course, all that was moved, and we are seeing some traffic moving in the region. A lot of US Air Force tankers are leaving Saudi Arabia after those oil.
Fields came under attack.
You can't talk about the Gulf States right now and not talk about the price of oil, which at one point went over one hundred dollars a barrel. That was a fifty sixty percent rise over pre war prices. The Suez can have this season, with the straight of Hornor Moves, has effectively been closed. The Iranians are not mining it, but they have threatened any vessel to go through. We heard from the Energy Secretary Chris Right who said he
would like to see US Navy begin escort missions. That's gonna be very dangerous.
I was.
You can see you right there in the map, Hew.
You know, as closest point, you're only a few miles from Iranian shores of any kind of Iranian ANPTI ship.
Cruise missile or some of those drones.
You wouldn't have very long to react, So very dangerous undertaking.
So Lucas. Before the war began, I was told by Iranian navy experts that they had five submarines. I know they've lost one. They also have a lot of many. Have you talked to anyone about the threat to our navy from these underwater vehicles and underwater drums from Iran?
It's something they're looking for you.
In fact, remember when you have the Lincoln Strike Group, but we don't talk about as much as there's always a fast attack submarine in the strike group, and of course Ford will be bringing one as well, so it.
Is a threat they're looking at.
However, we have heard from the Pentagon, from the Secretary of Warped egg st there that over forty ships have been taken out, and it seems that that's a very strategic move to try to free up the straight or horror moves.
Now.
One thing to consider also cute.
China gets forty percent of our oil from tankers that pass through the straight or form moves, So you have to think, while straight is closed right now, at some point, China will want that reopened and get some of the oil, in fact, to many countries in Asian, in fact throughout the world.
So Lukas last question when you leave Dubai, are you going to go to Cuba or to Israel or where are you going to go next? Because there's like a war everywhere.
Right I go where orders you would? Cuba would be fascinating right now. It certainly seems like a lot is happening in twenty twenty six.
It's very busy, very noisy.
Luc and thank you for joining me. Everyone follow him at Lucas Fox News on ex Lucas Fox News on x sank Welcome back to America. Just talking about the album Thriller. It is thrilling, sort of to live in Israel every day, under attack from the north, from Hesblah, under attack from Iran at intermittent times throughout the night. Nothing yet from mamma. I'm joined by a former Israeli ambassador to the United States,
doctor Michael Oran. Well played on CNN, Doctor Oran, when you corrected the anchor, Oh, by the way, we're under attack here, I thought that was well played.
They had a seven minute item you about Lebanon all the destruction that we are waking on Lebanon without mentioning one, not one of the two hundred and twenty missiles that they had fired at Israel up to that point. They fired a lot more today, and it's just it's rotten journalism. It's basically propaganda, and I wasn't gonna let him get away with it. It's enough and it's extraordinary. I was talking in the American news today. Nobody knows what's going
up on North. We're under constant fire from the North.
Let's talk Lebanon first. I have seen open source discussions that maybe has Belah wants to say no Moss or maybe Lebanon wants to formally agree with Israel to exterminate as Belah. What is the situation diplomatically about the northern Front.
Well, it's not quite true that what the message was tonight that the Lebanese government communicated to Israel through the United States that they're interested in having ministerial level peace talks on Cyprus, and that there were actually elements Stace that educated, there were elements in his beloved say that they were on board with this.
They wanted to get a.
Ceasefire and the response to the Trump administration was terrific. Was Listen, you promised to dismantle his brother's arms to take to to disarm them. Excuse me, and you have them done it, and they're just going to get have now a ceasefire. We're going to go back to the status quo ante that's not that's a no go. So you start making concrete steps to fulfilling your commitment to disarm his bulla and we'll talk about it.
And I thought that was an excellent response.
All right, now, let's go to the news. Generally, you know that there's been a showage spill in the Potomac. They're not calling it the poo too, Mac because it's so bad. That's like my feed. I can't tell what's real and what's not real. I'm looking for hard facts about how the war is going. How do you think the war is going based on hard facts?
You want the hard facts. Hamas and Iran a pretty much the same. In order to win, they have only not to lose, and they don't care how many ships they lose. They don't care how many leaders they get assassinated. They're just as long as they can come out of the bubble. At the end and go like this, then they wont and.
So yeah, we've got to this. We are in maybe just the beginning stages of this. That's me the war is going to go on indefinitely.
It just means there's going to be a very intense beginning of the war and then we'll keep it the pressure on Iran by having a very tight naval blockde not an oil drop of oil gets out of there. And you know, Americans, you know, we understand here. The Americans have the scars of every rack in Afghanistan and these so called endless wars. But a much better example would be the Cold War, which took decades and America kept up the pressure on the Soviet block and eventually
that block fell. And this maybe happened the case here because we met barring a upheaval, you know, a domestic revolt or a type of coup within the Iranian leadership itself.
We're in the army. This could go on for a very long time because they don't care.
All they care about is that they don't lose, and it can come out of the rubble and make the v side well.
But now Israel's navy, Israel's navy last night took out five Iranians of the Koods Force in Beirut, reminding us that not only does Israel have a navy, so does Iran. Now we've sunk that. We being in the United States, have sunk a lot of their navy, but they have five submarines at the start, at least one has been sunk, and a lot of mini subs. Will any hard reporting in Israel about the naval threat underwater from Iran?
None whatsoever?
Zero, Not even about the reports about what the Israeli navy has done.
They're keeping that under close wrap.
Okay, And I imagine there are many types of military activities that are going on that we don't know about, and we shouldn't know about.
One of the things I have been making a point to say, you said, this could go on a long time. I just don't want people to think it's going to be less than two months or three months, because it's an air war, it's not a ground war. There is no march to Tehran. There's not going to be a ground and occurring. Do you think that is a fairly realistic minimum time set? Two to three months?
It's realistic, and I'm a little bit more optimistic in you that once we eliminate the Iran's ability to launch missiles at US at our neighbors, then Iran is basically that kind of sitting duck. And you can maintain a much lower level of air activity, but keep up the naval blockade, keep the pressure on, and eventually they'll break. And again, the model is not Iraq, it's not Afghanist, and the model is the Cold War.
Now, Ambassador, and we are on how many two point zero? We may be on half of how many two point zero given some of the reports that he's been badly injured. Does Israel have a checklist that they'll just keep going down and the assets in place to find and eliminate all of the Iranian leadership?
Well, depends on who the leadership is and what their positions are. You know, if mister Mushtaba KHMANI were to come up and say, okay, I'm willing to you know, toss on the towel and I'm going to give up the nuclear dream, I'm going to give up the production of ballistic missiles, and I'm gonna stop supporting terror around the world.
Okay, you know, he could be a leap there every ron.
But if he's going to have the exact same policies as his father and of the founding of the Islamber Republic Homanne, then then his longevity should be should be very very short lived.
Do you think it's significant Hamini, the founder, was against hereditary succession. He thought it was un Islamic, very very very verbal about that. Does it matter in the propaganda war that they've basically crowned a king and passed it on to the prince.
Well, it matters internally domestically, and it has to do with his legitimacy. So tonight we're treated to these pictures of you know, tens of thousands of supporters of the regime going out and you know, chanting a lock bar and chanting, you know, for swearing fealty to the new Supreme leader. Of the question is what other Iranians think and does this chip away further at what little legitimacy this regime still had.
Last question, Israel Advocacy Group, what you've founded has got to be busier than ever. Do people understand the depth of the integration of the US and Israeli military operations?
They do not, And I will tell you at a personal level, at an historical level, you know, the United States and is you have always had a.
Totally special relationship.
In the deepest and most multifaceted strategic alliance which the United States has had with any foreign power in the post forward two period, does include the United States and Great Britain.
That's much to say about that.
Now and today, Israel is without question America's only truly dependable military ally in the world. An ALLI is going to be there, and a ally that's willing to fight. Now, that's extraordinary. And I don't recall anything like that of the United States and Israel a cooperating at the level they're cooperating and mounting a joint defensific it's a common enemy.
It's quite extraordinary, it is.
And if people understood the tactical integration as well, to the extent that it's available, I think anyone who's studied and even reads lightly about war would be as doneged. Doctor Michael Lauren has a new piece over at Fox on the fact that we've been at war with They're on for forty seven years, same sort of thing I wrote for The Daily Wire today. So go over to Dr Michael Lauren on X and find it, or you can find it on my feet. I just reposted it
as well. Thank you ambacheador or and I'll be right back. Welcome back America. I'm he Hewitt, joined now by Nada Nadav. Where do we find you today.
Well, I'm right now in New Jersey going to teach my class tomorrow morning.
Not far from here in New York.
You are at the Columbia School of International and Public Affairs. What are you going to tell your students about this war?
I'm going to tell them that this is a historic moment in the history of the Middle East.
It's a watershed moment.
It's the first.
Time that Iran has been in a direct confrontation with the United States and Israel. Since its inception, the Islamic Republic has spoken, has prophesied about a judgment day in which there would be a confrontation between itself and the West.
And that day has come, and it is very much related due to the actions of the Islamic Republic in those recent decades and the way that it has based its national narrative, its creed on the ideas of death to America and death to Israel and I'm also going to discuss with students who want to discuss the complexity of this problem.
Will there be a.
Change within the regime, Will there be a regime change the sort of a democratic revolution that the West would want to see. These matters are really very complex and nuanced, and I think this is how.
We should approach them. Nada, I have a piece in the Daily Wire today about watching the original Iranian Revolution in the fall of seventy eight in January seventy nine with former President Nixon and Ray Price and San Clementy. I had just gotten out of college, the same age of your students should be talking to today, And how many came down the steps on February one, after the show had left a ten days earlier, twelve days earlier, and no one in the West had a idea what
har Many was about. They thought it was like a green red revolution and everything would be flip flowered. His theology is so radical. Two questions, Do your students know what his theological worldview is and what we think how many two point zeros worldview is and do they know that how many two point zero hereditary succession is completely contradictory to what harmony himself preached.
Yeah, these are excellent questions, and I'm not sure it really depends on what kind of classes they're taking you. But I think that it was an Israel back in nineteen seventy nine, nineteen eighty, and I've seen the articles to prove this.
I can send you one.
Just after the show, people were saying, this is going to be a disaster. This is Hominy is a hardliner, an extremist. He's going to take this country, the entire country. He's going to seize control. And that coalition that you spoke about, the Red and Green coalition, is just going
to become green. It's just going to become Islamic. And what we're seeing now that you just mentioned the hereditary nature of the regime by electing much Daba Hami Nai as the leader, the son of Ali Haminna'i, this is maybe the final betrayal of the Islamic Republic with the idea that it tried to replace the hereditary rule, the idea of monarchy that has ruled Irand for thousands of years. They came and said no more, we are a republic.
This is how they describe themselves. And yet the Council of experts elected the day before yesterday the son of the former leader to lead the country. And that tells you a lot about what has happened to the Islamic Republic and the difference between the promise of the Islamic Republic, which was we are going to be a free country and an Islamist country, and that promise almost immediately evaporated towards authority.
Dob I listened with you and a mate and Dan Senor, and he shouldn't be the moderate guy in Israel. So I'm going to ask you that I wanted the audience to know this. Republicans are fully support of this war almost ninety percent, Democrats almost ninety five percent against it, Independent sort of three quarters against it. It doesn't matter right now. I mean to see how it ends. What's the feeling in Israel about this war, and how it has to end.
The feeling in Israel, and that's almost the consensus in Israel, more than eighty percent, is that it needs to end with the resounding defeat of the Islamic Republic. It's sort of a change within the regime or a change of the regime.
President Trump, I think said it best.
It's not about trying to install someone else specifically there. It's about the Islamic republic answering some basic conditions, for instance, not supporting terror across the region. This is how Israelis feel about this. And if you look at Israeli opposition, the chairman of the opposition, the chairman of the opposition is the one who's now recommending the government to bomb Hog Island, where the entire oil installations and gas installations
of the Islamic Republic are located. This is is Lapede who is saying that a sworn political rival of Prime Minister NATANIAO. So this gives you an idea the extent of a unity in Israel in reference to the war. Having said that, I don't want to sugarcoat this. This is a difficult war for Israeli Habalas joined the war.
People are running for the shelters sometimes every few minutes, and they are traumatized because of three years of war that began with the mass massacre on our southern border on October seven.
So they want this over.
And as we can see on the screen and we just saw, there are also damages and this is significant. And because of that, people are saying We're willing to suffer now if this means that Iran will be taking off as a thread for the next two decades. But we definitely want this to end with something that is meaningful. Whether or not this could be achieved, the jury is still out about that now.
I lost on it. For Israelis you meet doctor orn and Abe and you all have different, very different nuanced takes on questions. But this one I want to ask all of you. Hezbolla appears to be offering a shepherd piece. They're getting that crap kicked out of it, and they may be breaking with Lebanon, and they may be breaking with Iran. Would you accept the shepherd piece? Is a good idea with Hesbala right.
Now, with hisbel itself, of course not, But with the state of Flebanon, that could be a very good idea if the state of Flebon can actually disarm Hballah. The idea in Lebanon, the consensus in Lebanon, the UN Security Counsel of the Decisions is that after the idea we drew from Lebanon in the year two thousand, there is no reason for his Bala to exist as an armed militia.
It's not only an armed militia.
It's the most heavily funded and founded military group terror group in the entire world. And what the Lebanese are now saying that I think you're referring to is that let's let's negotiate directly with this world first time in history. Let's even maybe sort of have an agreement there. I think that's an excellent idea if we can get that done.
Nadada, I always go to talk to you, continue to play, doing more and more and more insider over at ram scene or his place. Call me back, get the inside edition so you don't mention a minute of nadav or a may thank you, Nadad. I'll be right back to America VIII. Arter back in America. I'm yet solely as Vito, as calmness of the world. She writes for the Washington Post, for the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, for the New York Post, for the Washington Examiners, probably writes Frather things I don't
know about, Selena. How are you?
Oh, just live in the dream.
The sun is out, which is very rare, so I'm enjoying it.
It's Pittsburgh. You can't get your hopes done has the President called you recently? He was talking to Brian kill Me last night, right before the show, so I think he likes to call people right before their shows.
Well, I don't have a show.
I talked to him a week ago, but we've talked about East Palestine and the ten million dollars that he got for economic development in the downtown area and infrastructure, but not the war.
No, not the war, all right, so just give me. You haven't been spun by the president then, yet? What do you think of the battle with Iran?
Well, so I'm going to I have to base it on the interviews I've been doing with people, and you know, there's overwhelming support.
You know, you and I have talked about this before.
It's two different worlds you straddle when you are when you are a reporter. There's the one that you live in and you report from, in particular if you're coming for places like I do right Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin. And then there's no online world, which is very very different and people have very very different motivations outside of their honest feelings about something to how they form their opinion. That's a long way of me saying people are very supportive of this.
They understood. Let me play you a little clip of Harry Anton on CNN and get your reaction to it. Cut number two.
Overall public and those who are either currently or have served in the military. Take a look at this Fox newspap that came out during the past week net approval rating of the current US military action against Ron. Look at that overall Fox News shows a dead even split, But look at those who served in the military significantly higher support for the US military action currently going on in Iran at plus twenty points.
Selena, veterans know who we're fighting. My son, my son in law, my nephew, they've all been attacked by Iran when they were in uniform. Well, there's no doubt among the veterans. I mean there might be a few, there are all the few, but it's over They know the enemy and I think that makes a huge difference here.
Yeah, it's really it's really interesting. And you know, even Paul Skins, the cy Young Award, a winning pitcher.
For the Pirates, right. I don't know if you've seen him. He's absolutely amazing.
I have a really great piece with him this today.
But his support for the military and for the country as he's getting ready to pitch tonight in the World Baseball Series. I think just exemplifies how military men and women feel about Iran, because no other country has killed more in this in this century of measure than Iran.
Well said, I was a little bit surprised because I wasn't aware that Pittsburgh had a professional ball club anymore. Tell me soddenly, I'm sorry. I know you love your party is amazing.
He's absolutely amazing.
And his love of country.
You know, people don't know he's served. He was in the Air Force Academy.
I didn't know that. Where tell us his name and he's a National League player. I don't follow him because he doesn't get to the postseason, because he's with the Pirates.
All Skins.
He's pitching tonight. Take a look at my story at Zito Selena, just about his level of country, love of military, how proud he is to be playing tonight.
He's pitching tonight.
The United States has just been crushing it in this series, and if people haven't been watching it, I highly recommend that you do. It is such an expression of patriotism and passion for our country among these players it's really amazing.
Okay, so you've got the one Democrat in Pennsylvania supports the troops and the war. John Fetterman, what happened to the Democrats that we grew up with? Selena As I'm with Brian kill me last night. I just said, this is not Fdr Truman, Kennedy, LBJ, not even Bill Clinton. They're all against this combat and they won't fund it.
You know who stuns me the most is Mark Warner. He really has done a complete change, right. He's really become sort of strident. If Republican or Trump, it's not just Trump anymore. If a Republican is attached to it, he is stridently against it. He could be against school crossing crossing guards. If Donald Trump said let's all support school crossing guards and give them, give them a draise, he'd be against it.
It's the Democratic Party disease. Mark Warner is a very smart man. I've met him a few times, very smart guy. But the Virginia Democratic Party has gone way left, and so you have to worry about that if you're an incumbent center I don't know if they'll ever vote for
a Democratic for supplemental for the war. I hope you follow that story and Zito Selena dot com reader story on the world series and that Buck who is planning for it whatever his name is, or just follower at Zito Selena on x or go to Selenazito dot com for everything that you write. Welcome back to America. I'm Hewett Leland vittert rejoins us. He was last on when
his wonderful book Born Lucky came out. Continues to sell like hotcake or to touch an extraordinary look into the lifetime in childhood, especially of children who are born somewhere on the spectrum. Leland is a though on today because he's a war correspondence, war course bonding. He's in the studio now with Unbalance every night over at NewsNation. But I want to talk to him about covering this war. Leland, how are you well?
Once a war coorse find is always a war corse bonder hughes. So sometimes, as you know, the arrows and knives of a Washington news are worse than that. Actually in war I.
Don't know that because I've never had to work in a newsroom in DC. The newsroom I had was PBS INLA and that was pretty bad. But that's okay, Leland. I want to ask you Number one, there's so much available on the web that it is difficult to distinguish between AI generated disinformation and hard facts. What filters are you putting up to make sure you only learn what's true?
Well, trying my very best to cross reference everything I hear number one. Number two, cross referencing not only sort of what you're hearing in seeing online, but with real people who are either in the region or involved in the government in other places where they are in a position to independently verify so much of this. But you're right that AI has created a fog of war, and you could say call it a fog of journalism, which is far greater than anything we ever had to deal with before.
I agree with that. Now, what I'm trying to do is find facts. When someone like the IDF puts out the number of attacks that decreased by ninety percent, We've destroyed eighty percent of their launchers, but those percent of drones are getting through, or the UAE post their daily Defense Ministry stats. I rely on that, And when we sink ships in the Iranian Navy, I rely on that. And we always tell people our casualties, but how do we What else do you look for other than the IDF,
the scentcom feed, the UAE feed. What else are you relying on?
Relying a lot on trying to see what's happening on the ground. And I think the one thing to be watching for right now is whether or not there are protests on the ground in Iran.
We have not seen a lot of video of that. That's something I'm watching for.
I'm watching the price of oil because I think that is sort of signifying howc usful the Iranians are and causing.
The one pain point they have left.
I'm watching for what the Iranian drones have been able to destroy in terms of US military hardware, not only the casualties, but the very high end US military hardware. I'm also watching for what's not being said. Sometimes and often what's not being said, which in this case is a specific goal by the administration of what they view as the end of this war may be the most important things leland.
Which war tell of the audience who may not be familiar with how many years you spent war zone, where you went, when you went, what you saw.
Four years in the Middle East.
So a couple of Gaza Wars, the Libyan Revolution, the Egyptian Revolution, covered the Syrian Revolution, some time in the Gulf, a little bit of the uprising in Turkey, and then spent the last month my overseas tour in Ukraine's the first Russian invasion in twenty fourteen.
So that's the perfect setup. In the ten years that have elapsed since the twelve years since you were in Ukraine, war has changed. I've been in this game for since nineteen eighty nine in broadcast, and I've been studying Iran since nineteen seventy eight with Richard Nixon. It's completely different. The drones is completely different. Do you think the American consuming audience understands how different war has become?
Well, they may not, but they will once they watch on Balance at nine pm tonight on News Nation, or they listen to this interview on the Uhwite Show, because that's what we're talking about tonight.
It is.
Beyond incompetence from the US military that they did not plan better for the low end military threat.
Right.
The US is just extraordinary at the high end of being able to intercept ballistic missiles and shoot down.
Incoming fighter jets, in the light.
What they're not good at, and what the past week has proved that they have a very hard time doing is intercepting massive amounts of Iranian drones coming in in swarms. And what is stunning to meet, Hugh, and I think what you're getting at is that this was so predictable because it's exactly what the Russians have been doing to the Ukrainians with Iranian drones, and the US military seem just not to plant that.
You're showing videos of Tomahawk.
Missiles that cost two and three million dollars apiece, and the interceptors that go up can be four or five million dollars apiece, and we're spending those using those trying to shoot down twenty thousand dollars drones.
It is not a good investment here.
There are two things that I haven't seen, Leland, maybe you have. I saw a brief bit of open intel that the growler, which dispatches from the carriers. Although there is an expeditionary squadron of growlers that can fly from Air Force bases, but they're on carre they can bring down drones in dramatic number. I don't know how many growlers we have and how often they're deployed. The second
thing is that our pights, which are sub hundreds. The Iranian Navy had five subs at the beginning, five real big subs. One has been sunk, but they had a lot of mini subs. Have you sent any open source stuff on that.
I have not, But I think what you're seeing in terms of a direction, and we'll have a little bit more on this tonight, is the fact that the US Navy is not transiting the sort of straight of war moves and providing tanker escorts that we know of right
now tell you. I think that Central Command does not yet confidently understand what the Iranian capabilities are, what's survived from an Iranian capability standpoint in the straight of war moves in the very close in coastal waterways around Iraq, And that to me is once we start seeing that, that will tell us that the United States Central Command is much more confident about that.
It's no surprise right that President Trump.
In his opening statement about the Iranian attack, Ranian war, whatever.
You want to call it.
Instead, we've gone after Iran's navy, and that's because everyone knew that the straight of hor.
Moves was the checkpoint.
This was Iran's blackmail, and I think it speaks volumes to why this war has been necessary, that the Iranians have handled themselves and done what they have done to try to economically blackmail the world.
Last question, Leland I turned down on Mark Montgomery. Of course, Senator Cotton's on a little bit later. People who have access to open source and closed source, and they're careful, who's your goad to guy? You haven't got Jack King, mister war on Fox. I don't either. Who's your go to people for military expertise?
There a couple of people who will both be on tonight. One is Kirk Lippold, who was the commander of the USS Cole but who understands these waters. He's been in the straight of hor Moves time and time again. I think he has something like forty crossings right now, so he understands those waters, and to your point, can not only look at the open source intel, but look at what's happening and then tell us why it's happening, to extrapolate out what the reality on the ground is.
And then we've also found a great guest.
I know he's available to come on your show is a guy named John Tikert who was an F twenty two pilot and a commander of the Edwards Air Force Base Test Squadron that did all of the Air Force testing in terms for aircraft air defenses, on and on and on and lastly, he finished up his career as a one star general as the US military acts Shay to a rock, so he understands the region on top of all that in terms of air powers invaluable.
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I interrupt my war coverage to bring to you a very special guest, doctor Ross Green. He is one of the leading educators in America is the author of the brand new book The Kids who Aren't Okay. The Kids who Aren't Okay came out last week just as the war broke out, so I did not get the attention it deserved. But I want to make sure that the parents and teachers of America's fifty million K through twelve kids know about the kids who Aren't Okay. So doctor
Ross Green agreed degree joined me today. Doctor Green, how are you and where are you?
I'm in Freeport Maine, a territory you know well, and I'm probably a little colder than you.
Are ll being still open, I'm sure, doctor Green. I want to ask you, would you tell people at the beginning of this your long intervention in American education, especially in the restrained industrial system, as a way of trying to set up why you wrote the kids who aren't okay?
I wrote the kids who aren't okay because we are still manhandling a lot of kids who aren't okay. It's called the restraint industry. We keep teaching our educators what to do when it's already too late, and there are a lot of kids who aren't doing very well right now, and we have to open our eyes to that.
In my grandkids school district, a child died from restraint in December, and of course they're facing an enormous lawsuit. How often does that happen in America?
Restraint happens more often than we think. It's about seventy to one hundred thousand times a year, depending on whose statistics you believe. Death, which is the most extreme outcome, we average about two or three deaths per year, based on the most recent research that I'm aware of.
All right now, doctor, you wrote this book, and I say it often because Franklin's taught me. Unless you say in the title of a book seven times times, people won't remember the kids who Aren't Okay. So I will say the kids who Aren't Okay at least seven times in every segment. I'm overwhelmed by it. When I got the page one seventy four, evidence based Treatment, I was sitting there thinking to myself, my God, how do we solve these problems? Do you run into that a lot?
Because there are it's overwhelming.
It's it's thick. I'll say that schools definitely implement a lot of programs that are not evidence based. The model contained in The Kids who Aren't Okay is evidence based. I spent a lot of my career doing research on the model. It works, but we do have to sort of plow through all of these structures that are in place,
all of these programs that we already do. Once we can get comfortable enough to take a look at our practices and whether they're actually working, it's not that hard to start doing the right thing.
I'm going to talk about the right thing in a moment, but I think the summary quote that I want to take aways on page seventy five when you dip into your Shakespeare knowledge and quote the Bard saying better three hours too soon than a minute too late, And that is a summary of the whole book. Intervene early, figure out what's going on with a kid who acts up and has troubles facing the problems that they're dealing with. They can't solve problem better to intervene early. Is that
a fair summary? Doctor?
It is certainly my favorite point of the book, and that is that so much of what we're teaching educators to do is about crisis management. It's not that hard to start being crisis prevention oriented. We can be early instead of late. But there's a lot of training and a lot of structures in schools that point us toward being late, to the detriment of both both the kids who aren't okay and the people who are trying to help them out in schools.
Now, I feel for teachers after reading this book, because there's a bell curve in every school system. They're going to have children who don't problem solve very well and who act out in different ways. And the illustrations you provide throughout the book are jarring. Really really jarring. I don't know how teachers do it. When did this to begin to be noticed by you as a recurring pattern of modern American education as well as the wrong solutions to it.
Well, I started working with behaviorally challenging kids in graduate school, started working with them in schools as a natural progression. If you're working with kids with behavioral challenges, you're working with them in schools, not just with them in families.
And that's when it became apparent to me that it was the same kids, ten or fifteen in every school, depending on the size of the school, who are accounting for seventy to eighty percent of the discipline referrals in that school and seventy to eighty percent of the punitive, exclusionary disciplinary practices that were being administered in that school. And I noticed that we just kept doing this stuff over and over again, even though it clearly wasn't working.
And that is still true today. We have a lot of reliance on behavior modification. But and this is a key to the book. As you know, focusing on behavior is not where the action's at. I get why we're focused on behavior. It's the part that is most disruptive to the classroom most dangerous. But behind every concerning behavior is a problem that's causing it. Those problems can be
identified proactively, they can be solved proactively. If we stay focused on behavior, we're going to be late every single time.
Now, on page sixty one, you use that term. Ten to fifteen percent of children in school account for seventy to eighty percent of the discipline referrals. So that does it telegraphs to me that the AUSP ought to be developed very quickly for the ten to fifteen percent. That's the term of art that I want people to take away the AUSP. Would you tell people what it is? And as well, what the CPS is. Those are the two most common acronyms in the book, and so let's lay it out.
For him ASUP is the assessment of skills and unsolved problems. It helps us move in thirty to forty five minutes from focusing on a kid's concerning behavior, which is just their frustration response. I use those terms interchangeably to the problems that are causing those behaviors that often have never even been identified, let alone solved. Every year, those problems, I call them unsolved problems, just get punted from one
teacher the next. Year after year after a while, we have a student who has this massive pile of unsolved problems. We've been punishing them like there's no tomorrow. We've been giving them stickers and rewarding them in other ways. Their concerning behavior is continuing because the problems that are causing those behaviors are still unsolved. The Assessment of Skills and Unsolved problem, what I call ASIP, helps us fix that.
I do not have a proprietary interest in it. It's free on the website of the nonprofit I've founded, Lives in the Balance. CPS stands for collaborative and proactive Solutions. Once you identify those problems proactively, you can solve them proactively. But not only proactively collaboratively.
Go ahead, Well, I was gonna say, lives Inthebalance dot org. I want people to make sure they know the website as well as the title of the book, Lives Inthebalance dot org. But go ahead proactively.
Means proactively means don't wait till the heat in the moment to try to solve this highly predictable, unsolved problem. This is not the first time Timmy has had difficulty completing the double digit division problems on the worksheet in math, it's the ninety seventh time. Why are we stuck in the heat of the moment yet again dealing with Timmy's frustration response and sending Timmy to this cool disciplinarian so
that someone can give consequences for Timmy's frustration response. We'd be saving a ton of time if we're identifying those problems proactively and solving the proactively. But the other keyword is collaboratively. Timmy has to be an integral, indispensable part of the problem solving process. Otherwise, US adults who tend to divine what's getting in Timmy's way and tend to divine solutions will keep doing that and somebody very important is then going to be out of the loop. Timmy.
Well, I like that you just used the word punt, doctor Green, because in my notes you never use it. In the book, you see, it's method C, method A for dealing with unsolved problems A B and C. Method C is to punt. By the way, it's okay to punt on some problems, you just can't punt on them all. Is that a fair summary as well?
You're punting temporarily. I called it putting the problem on hold. When I say punting, I mean kicking the can down the road. But these kids, these kids who have a lot of unsolved problems, you're not going to be able to solve them all at once once they're identified. So you're going to have to put some of them on hold for a while until you can get to them, or until you feel like the kid is actually able
to meet the expectation. We've been causing a lot of concerning behavior in our schools by putting expectations on kids we already know they can't meet. Who should you ask about that? They're teachers.
I'll be right back with doctor Ross Green, author of the brand new book The Kids who Aren't Okay. And if you're the parent, teacher, and grandparent, friend of one of the kids who Aren't Okay, that's ten to fifteen percent. You want to get this book and you want to go and find Lives in the Balance dot org. Stay ten.
Walking back in America, I'm Hugh Herett with doctor Ross Green, and we're talking about the ten to fifteen percent of America is fifty million, roughly K through twelve students who have unsolved problems and therefore become discipline issues and sometimes lead to crisis in the classroom. Everybody loses. It doesn't have to be that way, but the complex, this military industry complex of education, has been spinning out the same solution for decades and it's not working, Doctor Green over
on page fifty five. Yeah, the closer look, where does the National Education Association stand on restraint and seclusion? Which is the typical approach.
And there follows four of the densest pages of gobbledegook because the NEA doesn't really want to tell people what to do. I'm very glad you approached it that way because I wanted to see they really just don't want to say anything, do they.
I think that it's been hard for them to take a strong stand, and that might be in fact, I suspect this is the case because they are hearing from their constituents that they still need these obsolete practices. Restraining meaning pinning a kid to the ground, usually by three to four adults. Seclusion meaning throwing the kid into a
locked or blocked closet sized seclusion room. There's a lot of educators who still believe that those practices are necessary and point to how difficult some of their students are as evidence of that. The students are still difficult because of the other obsolete practices that we continue to apply to them. If they don't do better, you're going to get them into a frustration response. You are going to do what seems like a necessary practice, pin into the ground,
throw them into a closet sized room. When educators implement the CPS model, those practices pretty much disappear because they're not necessary anymore.
Now, doctor Green, I want to stress this. When people do the AUSP, the assessment as student as you know, I'm terrible as up. Yeah, assessment AUSP of skills and problem assessment of unsolved problems. When they do the AUSP, they are going to get a long list, and you encourage them. Don't hesitate to split the problem into its composite parts. That by the way, an engineering solution. Don't try and solve everything in one long assessment of the
but take the time to list the component parts. That's hard for people because when they write something down, they know they're going to have to confront it. Can you get that message through? Break it down? Break it It's like diagramming a sentence diagram the problems.
So just as a concrete example, and maybe this goes back to engineering, I'm not sure. We're not going to write down We're not going to try to talk with the kid about the unsolved problem of difficulty doing math. It's too broad, right, And in this model, there's three steps. The first step is that we're gathering information from the kid, who's our number one source of information on what's making it hard for them to meet a particular expectation. People
are often skeptical about that part. They often ask me, what makes you think the kid knows? And my answer is thirty five years of asking. But if we ask the kid what's making it hard for you to do the math, you're going to get out on no, because it's too broad. We've got to get more specific. We've got to get more micro. What's making it hard for you to complete the double digit division problems on the
worksheet in math. I'm always telling caregivers be prepared for surprises when you ask, because you are likely to learn that what you thought was getting in the kid's way is not what's getting in the kid's way. This is how we partner with kids on solving problems you.
Also recommend very early in the school year, if not before it begins triage, And by that you do not mean tracking or tearing, You do not mean segregation. What do you mean by triage.
Knowing what's walking in the door before it walks in the door. We should have much better communication from one year to the next. Every educator would agree with that. But if all we're communicating about from one year to the next is the kid's frustration response their behavior, then next year's teacher has absolutely no idea what expectations this kid is having difficulty needing, how some of those problems got solved the year before. They are pretty much going
in with blinders on. That's not continuity of care. That's not good care. And schools are providing care for a lot of our kids who aren't doing very well. The care that schools provide could be better than it is if we could just get out of our own way. You mentioned tears. Tears refers to this organizational method called multi tiered systems of support, which many people love, but I find I'm neutral. I find that we end up talking more about tears, which is what level of support
this is going kid is going to need? Than we do about kids, and that's past Awkwards.
I compliment your use of the need to judge children, assess children based on their level of acuity, because that's a very accordion term. You're trying throughout this book to dispense with the traditional stuff. And by the way, doctor Green does not dismiss the problems of cell phones. He doesn't dismiss the problem of porn, he doesn't dismiss bullying, he doesn't dismiss anything. He just puts them all into the stew that is causing these unsolved problems. And the
unsolved problems he divides into lucky ones. Okay, that's a funny word to term, but crying, with drawing, sulking, whining, things that elicit sympathy an unlucky one, screaming, hitting, spitting, destroying that get punitive things going, and it's neither lucky nor unlike. You're just trying not to exclude any unsolved problem. Am I right about that?
That is correct every kid, And this is why this model is good even for the kids who aren't exhibiting concerning behavior, because as you noticed, I'm sure my definition of good teaching is meeting every kid where they're at. That's for kids whose frustration responses are more mild. That's for kids whose frustration responses are bigger a frustration. No matter what the frustration response, it's still communicating the exact same thing. There's an expectation this student is having difficulty
reliably meeting. Once we get to the level of what are the expectations a student is having difficulty meeting, they can be identified proactively, they can be solved proactively. We can get out of the heat of the moment where I promise you nothing productive is going on. Though. That's the biggest chane we need to make moving from our focus on behavior where we've been forever, to our focus on the problems that are causing them. That is massive now.
Doctor Green. As I was reading The Kids Who Aren't Okay, it occurred to me you are, in fact teaching, especially the teachers. When I got about halfway through the book, page ninety five, the start of chapter six, putting the horse back in front of the cart, you review everything on page ninety five and the top of page ninety six that you've written thus far, because and actually it goes all the way to page ninety six. Repetition is the essence of learning, right, So you're teaching the teachers
to do this again and again. Is it taking hold?
You know, in the schools that are aware of this model, it is taking hold in a big way. Lives in the Balance has never been busier because, quite frankly, there's a lot of leaders in education who know that what we're doing right now isn't working very well, especially for kids who are sluggling the most.
I'm coming back for one more segment with doctor Green. The book is The Kids who Aren't Okay. It's at Amazon, It's at Barnes and Noble, It's at Lives in the Balance as well. But all you want to do is go to my at page. You'll find a link here. But Kids who Aren't Okay Doctor Green will be right back. Welcome back to America. I'm Hugh Hewittt. Now Doctor Green and I have met a few times, and my journeying
through Maine, I mentioned Lban at the top. Doctor Green is very well known for his book Lost at School, very well known for The Explosive Child, very well known for everything in the world of education. If a superintendent or a classroom teacher who is or the head of the union or a group of concerned parents wanted to bring this to the attention of their district and get it to actually be absorbed. How do you recommend they go about that? Doctor Green, Go to.
The Lives and the Balance website Lives lavees in the Balance dot o RG tell us what you need through the contact form. We are ready to work together with any school system, any individual who's looking to change things for the better, especially the for the kids who are struggling the most.
Now, for the school districts that decide to go so. And by the way, everyone I know that President Trump is starting is a press conference. I'm sure Larry Elder will have all of it, but it takes a while for him to warm up. For the school districts that want to embrace this, I would guess this summer they could have everybody read it and get the teachers to commit to doing the work early, the ausps early so
that they did not enter the school. Is that the best way to sort of roll out system wide a change from restraint and seclusion.
A book study is a very good place to start. I don't want people waiting till summer. That's a that's another three months of kids and educators suffering through current practices. Start right away. You can get this book read in one to two weeks. Oh easy, start playing, easy easily exactly, Yeah, you could start playing. This is an easy read. I like to think I write that way. I also like to think it's a very practical book. Despite some of the idealism in the book, this is not that hard
of a change to make. With commitment, with intentionality, this can be done. If you want to wait till summer, that's great. I just don't want to see people suffer any longer than they have to now.
If you get to the again, let's say ten to twenty percent, I'll even give it. Let's say twenty percent have unsolved problem. If you can reduce the number of unsolved problems in half of those children to a manageable level, the productivity of the entire classroom will increase, probably by fifty percent. Really, I can't imagine some of these things in the Catholic schools of my youth. It didn't happen, probably because they were restraint models that people didn't even
know about. But nowadays I hear about it a lot, and we don't want that to happen. What a resource suck.
This is the fascinating part. One of the biggest impediments when people first hear about this model is they feel that they don't have time to do it. They are spending mammoth amounts of time on behavior. They would be spending a fraction of the time solving the problems that
are causing that behavior. Yes, intentionality and commitment do take time, but the schools that implement this model are saving a boatload of time because they are not running around like chickens with their heads cut off anymore, dealing with behavior.
Crisis from chrisis. Again. The book is The Kids who Aren't Okay, The Kids who Aren't Okay. Doctor Green is gran and you can find it Ross Green on Amazon. So Doctor Rayne's Big Picture time. Are you an optimist about American education getting this fixed? I am.
I think there are some outstanding educators out there. I think the very vast majority of educators want the best for their kids and love seeing them thrive. Sometimes it is their training getting in the way, Sometimes it is the system getting in the way. These things can be changed, and by golly, I'm will get as much of that change done in my lifetime as I possibly can, right here from Freeport, Maine.
Do you know why I'm an optimist. It's because I don't know if they're in Freeport, Maine or Portland. But there are trial lawyers all over the United States who are going to figure out that it is not best practices to restrain a child. Of course that will happen in wrongful death case, but in any case, they're going to start suing school districts if they're not you using
your approach. That's that's why I'm an opt The trial lawyers know there's a duty of to these children, the ten to twenty percent, and if the duty is being breached with damage resulting, it's a mass tort. Have anyone told you that before?
Oh they are. It's already happening. And I am an occasional participant in those lawsuits. I don't take any money for it because I don't want to feel like I'm a hired gun. I just want to make sure that we're treating kids the right way, making sure kids and educators aren't getting hurt, and make sure that schools that are still using these obsolete practices are held to account.
I hope we are helping them do that once again. The book is The Kids who Aren't Okay. It just came out last week, just when the war got started, so you may not have seen the regular book chore, you know, the CBS Morning News or anything like that, but you should. The Kids who Aren't Okay needs to be in every teacher, guest, in every superintendent's best and every parent with a child who is being assessed with a difficult child. Go and get the Kids who Aren't
Okay by doctor Ross Green, doctor Ring. Good to talk to you. Thank you America, be right back, say