Today, I sit down with Tracy, who for years has managed the kitchen and facilities. At ion Rice retreat center in petal. For those of you that don't know, Hoffman lost our beloved white sulfur percent brings retreat center in September of 20 20. And Tracy at the time was crucial in helping connect ions and hoffman.
When she heard about the news of the fire, she reached out and was able to put us in contact, and the rest of history, we were then able to take half men onto the land at Earth rise and continue to host our in person processes. She has such a unique take because she knows every inch of this land. Through this, you will hear her incredible spirit shine. Tracy is so near and dear to our hearts here at Hoffman. Welcome to Loves everyday radius. A podcast brought to you can by the
Hoffman Institute. My name is Liz Sever and on this podcast we engage in conversation and learn from Hoffman graduates. We'll dive deep into their journeys of self discovery and exist explore how the process transformed their internal at external worlds. They share how their spirit and light now burn brighter in all direct actions of their lives, their loves, everyday radius. Welcome Tracy. I am so excited to have you on today and be able to talk and learn more about you.
Hi, Liz. I'm pretty excited too. I know you have some big things on the horizon for you, but I I'd love to just have you start off by telling us a little bit about yourself. Okay. So I was born in California? And when I was 6 months old, I was born in La, when I was 6 months old, we moved to Hawaii to Oahu, and I spent the first 8 years of my life in Hawaii, So I sort of was formed in the Hawaiian vibe. When I was 6, my parents decided that they were gonna move
to England. So we moved to England for a year because my family, my parents were really into the Waldorf education, and there's a mighty Waldorf school there in England. So we moved there for a year. And then my dad decided that he didn't wanna be in England anymore. So we moved back to Hawaii, When I was 8, we left Hawaii, and we bought Abel volkswagen van, and it was me and my brothers and sisters. I had 2 brothers and a sister, and my my step mom and my father,
and we drove across the country. Took, like, 4 months drive across the country, and ended up in new Hampshire. So we went from tropical vibes to, you know, freezing cold, winter and snow, And first year, we almost froze to death, but we worked it out. When I was 18, I left New England, and I just traveled around Europe. I was a Nanny in England, and I went to Germany and spent time in the Caribbean.
And and then what found my way back to California, where at 23, I got pregnant and I had a kid, a boy and raised him. I moved... I was working in the city at the time and and I ended up moving into a small town in Northern California, called in Beach and I raised him out there sort of with a whole, you know, takes a village and so the village helped raise him. And then I was, called upon to come and work up at ions in their kitchen, And so I took the call and I came up, and
I ended up... I've been working here, at earth authorize ions for the last 14 years. I love that. I think anyone just even hearing that story makes total sense of where you're... Cool vibes came from. A little bit of Hawaii, California, New Hampshire and just the sort of travel traveling the world even at a young age. So Ion Earth rise is actually where the current... It's in petal where the current, Hoffman retreat center lives. So that is 1 way for listeners. They might have seen you
wandering the lands. Yeah. Beautiful property up here, and the hoffman been here for now, will... It'll be 2 years in November. So year and a half. From what I know, you were pretty integral in, helping hoffman find a home. Do you care to share a little bit about that. Yeah. So I think around 5 years ago, I did the the process.
A few years before that, Christine Falcon Dig had recommended that I do it because I was in a funny spot in my life, and I was angry all the time and La la la la, So she recommended it and for 3 years, I denied. I said, no. I don't need to do that. That's just silly. So finally, I did the hop process, and it was a mind blower and a body blower and a a whole spirit blower. And I ended up doing Picnic for Hoffman after that. I did the t ratings at the Picnic every year.
So when the pandemic hit, we had to authorize had to close the retreat center and let go of the whole staff, except for me because I was the director of the facilities at the time and so I needed to stay here. And I've been in contact with Debbie Day who started working at Hoffman after having worked with me for the last 14 15 years up here at ions. She started at the Hoffman. And she called me and said the Hoffman is on fire.
And I thought, well, is... That's a... That's amazing and I have this huge beautiful retreat center that's been sitting here for almost a year now. I'm gonna call Liza and see if she wants to bring the process here. And so spoke with my Ceo who said do it, I called Liza, the next day, she and Matt showed up. And we were like, yeah. This is perfect. I think a good month later, Hoffman started up here. Yeah. I remember it was, like, no time
at all. I was actually teaching teaching that process that when the fire happened. And I... Remember, we were all just, you know, we were in shock that morning after, but it was not literally the day after that, I we had heard rumbling of, matt liza already scoping out a new place, and I just was in awe of the Hoffman community, just rallying and the determination to to keep this process going. So thank you for being such a part of that.
Yeah. It was incredible. I mean, it just the way that it all fell into place was amazing. You know, the the land was super excited to have people back on it doing really deep amazing work. So it's kind of interesting the connection that ions and Hoffman has.
In 19 87, Edgar Mitchell, who was the founder of the Institute what science, Took the process, did the process, and was so amazed and moved by it, that in in, 2000 when he found this this land here in Petal, World College west was selling it, and they had they had been here for 20 years. Edgar decided like, this land was so amazing that he he needed to somehow figure out a way to buy it.
And so he called Ras and said, I'm about to buy this retreat center, campus And I'm wondering if you wanna bring the the hoffman process here to Petal. Will Hoffman if I understand correctly had just been gifted or had just bought white sulfur springs that same year. And so they blind the offer, but, you know, thank you, but no. We've we're all set. Fast forward 20 years later, white sulfur springs is burning. Ions is still standing, and I reach out to them not knowing about this history.
It all sort of came full circle. So 20 years later, here's Hoffman, having just purchased the Petal, the San Antonio Road property, and ions is now gonna move on. For their next 20. So kind of an amazing connection between the 2. I had no idea of that. But what a circle of just coming full circle back to... And I I think that really speaks to what the land was meant to do? How it was meant to serve. The land rejoice. To have people back and to have people doing this kind of work.
You could just feel a shift in it a smoothness, was like the unfolding of it was really amazing. And now it's history. Yeah. I mean, we gives me goosebumps thinking about that I was teaching that the the infamous fire process, and I remember so vividly, you know, all of these things that you're saying, and I remember Monday morning. We hadn't slept. And I remember Monday morning everyone was just in tears learning about that we'd lost our home or our white sulphur springs.
And Matt and Liza, we're, you know, quietly just we're we're gonna go look somewhere else. And so I just... I remember just being sort of awe that the fire hasn't even settled yet, and the Hoffman community has rallied and is determined to continue to bring this work, bring this transformation, healing to people. And in their tears, they went to earth rise and looked around. And so just knowing how integral, you were to that process, just, you know, I speak on behalf of Hoffman, and
I'm sure the graduates to follow. Thank you because there was a There was a few hours. It sounds like there, but we we truly didn't know how how it was gonna go what was gonna happen. So we are forever grateful for you. It was just the flow of it was really... Was amazing to be a part of that flow. You guys need a place? I have a place for you know, come on. And the perfect place. I mean, I think that's that's what just gets me is the perfect place. And and when you mentioned
the land. Right? The land had been sitting 20 20 and kind of dormant re resting, and you say, you know now, the land was ready. The land was cited. And and I know you know the land so intimately, and I'm I'm curious if there's anything that you can speak of specifically that kind of you saw unfolding around you. Well, besides it's just the energetic
of everything. Right? It's like... When you live somewhere and it's a hundred and 94 acres, and you're tuned into the vibe, you can feel the lifting when things change. You can also feel the heavy when things change. 1 of the things that I started to notice out my window was this set of of bald eagles pair.
And at dusk each night, this pair would fly down from the hill, and they would circle around the pasture above the dorms and just do these circles, and they sort of dive down into the valley below, and then they'd come back and they'd fly back over the tops of the trees and they'd be gone. And you know, you... It's not very often that you... That that I've seen the bald the Eagles on such a regular basis. But there they were.
The deer and the turkeys, everybody kind of started showing themselves again. It's not that they didn't show themselves during the pandemic, but there was less noticing of all that. So the animal life really picked up speed. And the cats kinda got, like, super stoked because people were coming back Nico in particular. Yeah. So Nico was, like, getting more and more alive and he was going out more often, and he was checking to see if there were new cars or anybody else was around.
Yeah. Just breathing breathing new life back into the land. The land itself is such a healing place and it's funny because I think for a while, we thought that the land needed us in order to stay safe and protected and vibrant, And during the the Covid time, I realized we're the ones who need the land? The land doesn't need us. And that was a really big shift for me. Was to... Again, it's about trusting nature. You know, it's about trusting that what is to be will be.
Well, care to tell us a little bit more about your just how you were involved with ions or rice. I was a Waitress. When I was raising my son, I was a waitress and a manager of restaurants in S Beach. And I had prior to getting pregnant, I had decided I was gonna go to culinary school, and so I went for, like, 4 months. And then I got pregnant, and so I had to stop. So I did all this, like, restaurant work, and I did catering on the side with people. I I worked for cater.
So this woman calls me then says, I need a chef And I work at the institute science in Petal, and I'll pay you 20 dollars an hour if you come and work for me. And I had only done a few catering jobs with her, and I thought, well, this is kind of amazing. Okay. I'd love to learn how to cook. So I got here and was blown away by the place in general, just like, wow. Where did I just drive into?
She promised that she was gonna teach me how to how to be a chef, and she would take time, and she would walk me through how to do it. I I had never cooked on my own. For 35, 85 people. I I just hadn't... I had done it with other people. Them telling me what to do. Suddenly, here I am, I start my first day. We don't have any clients. And the second day, she's sort of talking to me about ingredients and how she does it.
Third day, she's not here. Fourth day, she rolls in, and she's packing her bags, and she says I'm out. And so I'm, like, what does that manage? Well I quit. So here I am with this job and she's walking out the door, and I'd never been a chef ever. Especially for big groups of people, for the first 3 years that I worked here, I didn't even know there was a campus like that there were buildings. I just knew that there was a kitchen. And a couple of buildings around the kitchen.
I didn't know that people spent them that, like, where they where they slept. I just didn't know that. For the first 3 years because I was so it was so important for me to learn how to cook. Yeah. I became, like, the chicken expert kind of, I, as a vegetarian almost, I'm not a strict vegetarian, but kind of as a vegetarian. I learned how to cook chicken like nobody was so good and fish. That was my start to my time up here on the hill. And, that turned into me then
go... There was a cycle of of directors of the facilities that sort of cycled through, and I was introduced to the lodging eventually, and then I kind of started helping out the new directors because they needed to figure out how to run the place, and that led into our latest Ceo coming in, and seeing that I was doing too many things and asked if I would be interested in not doing the kitchen anymore, but running the retreat center. So I did and the land.
And I've been doing that for the last 5 years. Wow, and I know there are so many other little connections. I get I guess, should let the cat out of the bag so to speak in that you are moving away, but I know that there are so many little pieces of you still in the site, so many memories there of things that you've created. And I want... I know 1 of them is the big serving table. Or is that right? That you're you're were integral in that beautiful table and even the crystals up around.
So we're so grateful for that. Yeah. There's a lot of special places. I watch the students walking around this campus, and you can just see the transformation, you know, the land holds a lot of that energy, transformative energy. So, yes, I am. I'm gonna I'm going to move to maine. I'm gonna move in near my family. Well, we will miss California will miss you, but I know California's but a large part of your life, so I hope I hope it's not goodbye forever. Yeah. I don't hope we'll see.
Well, just speaking of the land and transformation. Let's go back to your process. You said 2016, tell us a little bit more about what what really brought you? You mentioned it briefly, but what brought you to the process? So I was in my mid forties. And mid to late forties, and I was really, like, struggling with anger. I was angry.
I felt I worked so hard and there was no justice in life, and you can work hard and get nowhere and try to be a good person, but who cares and I was starting to go down this weird rabbit hole of victim and and rage. And, you know, I grew up to be... I grew up being a good girl, like you'd be a girl, and, don't make a fuss and, you know, put your big grow panties on, be the tower of power. Don't feel those feelings,
just plow through. And in that time of my life, my son was was older, and he was, you know, he graduated from high school. And I... All I did was work. That was it. And Christine lived up here at ions, and she was the caretaker with her husband Jake. When I asked her where she works, she said the hoffman process,
and I didn't know what that meant. And She said, you know, you might be interested in doing a process, and having gone to Waldorf schools my whole life, I had this sort of resistance to gathering and talking about feelings and things. And I don't know that... I can't blame it on the waldorf thing. But there's a little bit of this, like, community, groovy thing that happens
in that kind of education. There's also amazing things about it, creativity, imagination, music, dance, art, So when Christine said, you know, you get you get together with a group of people and you process your life from birth to 13 years old. I thought, well, that's what open a can. You know what? If I did that, and I'm so pissed right now. That I don't think it would be conducive. I think I would just be, you know, it'd be horrible.
Well, and she, of course, said, well, I think it's actually perfect timing. And just let me know if you'd be interested. So the next year she asked me, and I declined The following year, she asked me, and I was at the end of my rope, like, there was no other way to go. And so I said sure. Let me see how I can do this. And at the time, ions had a wellness budget. Where they would help you pay for wellness stuff. And so I went to them, and I asked them if they would help support me.
And without batting and an I, they said, yes, please. And so I signed up for the process. I was resistant until the minute I got there. Basically. And then like, even... Like, a day before I left or 2 days before I left Christine said, just be sure and remember to trust, what is being taught to you is real and just trust your teachers. Trust them. So if they ask you to do something do it, you know, and I'm
going, like, yeah. Whatever. Alright. Sure. So I roll in to white sulfur springs and sit in the classroom and instantly, it was like, I started to get reconnected, like, in the first moments. There was this reconnecting that started to happen, and my group was really interesting, and we became so tight so fast and the whole point of, like, not saying what you do was colossal in terms of This is who I am. I'm not identifying myself by what it is that I do. Oh, I'm a chef or Oh, I'm
a this or I'm a that. I'm just a person, and I'm just working on my story, and I'm so pleased to be in a room with I don't know if it was 8 or probably 8 other people that are doing it too. Yeah. Did you find that hard? To, you know, when when that sort of taken, like, you can't talk about what you do. Did you find it hard to express who you were outside of that? Amazingly no. I mean, at first, I thought, like, these are my identifier, You know, I'm an executive chef.
I run a retreat center, I am a mother single mother of a, you know, 19 year old boy. I'm so great because I like did it all of my own. And you put all of that aside and it's like, well who am I? So difficult maybe for the first day, it because you didn't have anything to talk about at first. But afterwards, all of a sudden, it was like, how are you feeling? Like those were the questions. How are you feeling? How was that for you? How does this,
you know, feel? And using the words feeling for me when we'd be in circle or something I'd have to look at at a list of feelings so that I could identify what it was because I realized, I hadn't... I didn't know how to tap into my feelings. So yes and no. I I would say, ultimately no it wasn't difficult. It was really more exciting to know people just purely for who they are.
Yeah. And what about is there a moment in the process that you remember or a few of them if they're there, if that just really landed you in the process? Kinda broke you open. Well, I kinda joke about this with people that I don't remember the process.
Very well. I just because it was such a whirlwind of amazing ness, I would say, 1 of the of, the couple things that really stick out for me was writing a letter to the younger version of my mother, really being able to sort of channel her life prior to her becoming what she became. And, meeting her from this... At the same age, like me being a certain age, her being a certain age there was something really profound about that where I I recognized...
She didn't have the tools to be quote, unquote, good mother. That was definitely a a game changer for me. In terms of relaxing a little bit more around it So another time for me was this moment where I can't remember all the exact details, but there was this internal thing that was going on where we were sort of all turned inward and we were addressing some painful experience or some painful moment,
and there was some crying going on. And then we were you know, asked to stand up and move our chairs back and hold hands, And suddenly, the mute... This music came on, and it was, like, dance music, and he went from the... It was the shock of, like, being turned inward and retrospect retrospective to suddenly like, it's dance time. And, like, what just happened it, like, snapped me out of this this sort of rut of cares my wound or licking my wounds, you know?
And also sudden you're like, dancing crazy. It was amazing. That was so profound for me. It reminded me of watching my child when he was young, and he'd like, fall down or he'd... Somebody like, he'd have, like, a somebody would bite him or hit him. And there'd be this like, oh my god. We the think. And then you go to them and you'd say, oh, gosh. Oh, that is so hard. I'm so sorry, And let me kiss it and make it better, and then you kiss it, and then
all of a sudden, they're like, okay. I'm gonna go play and off they run. And that just sort of duality of, like, 1 minute you can be a bleeding heart in the next minute you can be, like laughing your head off. That was huge. That has stayed with me. Do you find that you approach things differently in that sense? Completely. It's not that I overlook the the dynamic or the severity of something that's very serious. But I recognize that in this moment, this is what's... Happening.
And there will be another moment that's gonna arrive, and the the whole energetic is gonna shift. And Tracy, is there anything else that you wanna share about how the process has shifted life for you or how it continues to live on in you? Yeah of the 1 of the really big ways that I know... I've noticed for the last so many years now is 1 after doing the process, I'm able to become what much more of an observer of things that go on in my life. I'm not so reactive. I'm not so quick to judge.
I have this ability when I call in my body mind and spirit altogether and I'm a whole person. I really have this this ability to, like, observe the situation and observe it from a place of a... As an observer versus the person who's head long in it and can't see an exit or can't see a way around it. That has really... It's like learning how to pause. And seeing my cycles watching my...
Those funny things that we do where we just get on those on those hamster wheel, and we like, go around and around and around about the same thing. It's, like, now I can sort of see that I'm on the wheels step back and say, look at your going around in a circle. Step back, take a moment, pause, observe, and then make a decision. That's lovely. I love the concept of just pausing, looking at it from a different perspective.
And, Tracy, I know that you are of and still do some taro reading, but that is another just, I think interesting connection as you used to do some of the Taro reading at the Hoffman Picnic. Is this right? Yes. I did it for 2 years. Yeah. How did do... How did that come to be? Just even you getting involved in tomorrow? Right. Oh, gosh. My my involvement in row. So in my early twenties, I studied
transformational body work. And so I did... I was a transformational body worker for about 15 years, and I was living in this small town and outside of San Francisco. And so it was like a community, and people knew that I did this transformational body work, and I was walking on the beach 1 morning with my dogs, and a woman approached me and asked me if I would be willing to do a trade with her, she would do a reading for me, and I... If I could give her body work because she had some body
stuff. So I thought well, reading. Isn't that interesting. And and when I was really little, I wanted to be a G. And so I just kinda thought like, wow, well, I wanted to be AGI now I get to see what G these do. And so I agreed. And I gave her body work, and then couple days later, she gave me a reading. And it just blew my mind because it wasn't fortune telling. It was storytelling. I was like, wow
beyond belief. So she then said, I'm... You know, I really... I don't have the money to pay for body work, but Would you be interested if I taught you how to read the throw, you could give me body work, and we would just do an exchange.
And so I said, well, I have 4 other people who have studied at the same place that I studied And let's see if they're interested, and we can do it as a group, and we can all give you a massage, and we can all learn how to do the trail because I can't give you a massage every week. I don't have the time for that. So, these other people agreed, and we... Each 1 of us, would give her a massage, 1 person would give it 1 week, 1 would do the next week, the next week
the next week. And each week she would teach us how to do the tomorrow. And I caught on super fast because it was so intriguing to me. I've always been like a Greek and Norse mythology kind of sand. So I started to take the tour, and incorporate it into my body work practice.
So that's how the growth thing started. So then here comes hoffman I do the process, and Hop was looking for different ideas of things that they could do at the picnic and Christine, I believe mentioned that I do this to thing, so they called me and asked if I be interested in doing 1 of the Picnic and I said sure that sounds great. So I arranged to go, and I went, and I did the first year, and it seemed like it was sort of a great success.
The next year, they called and asked if I do it again, and so I agreed to do it again. And I went, and I was in the midst of readings, and then every every 15 minutes, somebody would come and sit down. And I would read for 12 minutes and then take a minute to take a break and the breath and then the next person will come, well, eventually, Ras shows up.
And I had never met ras before, and he sits down at the table and I figure out what his lifetime symbols are, And before I can start reading him, he says, so you did the process, and I said, yeah, I said, but I don't remember any of it, like, 0. I just remember that it... All I know is that it changed my life, but I don't remember what happened. I think I need to do it again.
I need to do the process again. There's just no... I really need to do it again, and he laughed, and he just said no. You need to do AQ2, which I didn't know what AQ2 was. You kind of briefly explain to me what the q 2 was. It was a weekend, and it would really help solidify everything for me. So right on the spot, I said, sign me up. And I ended up doing AQ2, like a couple of weekends later, and the q 2 totally solidified everything.
For me. I still couldn't tell you what happened in the process, but I can tell you when I was in the room with everybody. And we were in the process of doing this q 2. Wow. It was like things just smashed together and became solid. I walked away from that 1, and I thought holy moly. To do this is it's life changing. It's like, 20 years of therapy in a week and a half. So that's that's how that went with the and then now this q 2.
But just makes me smile because I think that's the number 1 thing I hear from from graduates, you know, after a process, can I go back? I need to do that again? I don't remember anything. And It just always makes me smile because it is just this reminder, I think as you're saying, like, your body remembers your spirit remembers. You know, even if you don't have those exact memories, even just trusting that You remember. And then, of course, yeah. Q 2 always there. Yeah. And you can do
the Q2A few times. Can't you? Totally. Yeah. So I... Yeah. I'm definitely AQ2 supporter. I'm... I'd like to sign myself up for another 1. And, Tracy. I know you are about to move to maine and leaving leaving behind the land, but having been there for so many years I'd love for you to tell us a little bit more, whether it's the labyrinth or the crystal, but just if you could give us some little nuggets of wisdom about the land. The labyrinth is super special.
It's 1 of... I believe 6 legacy labyrinth and I'm gonna say in the world, but I might be totally wrong. There might be, like, 10 of them. But as far as I know, it's 1 of these legacy labyrinth. And so the legacy labyrinth is a labyrinth. There's... Like I said, I think there's 6 of them. And they energetically join points. Definitely, when you come here, if you can find time go to that labyrinth and,
walk it, set your intention at the... At the entrance of it and be really mindful in your in your steps and take... I believe it takes about 5 minutes to get to the center And then when you're in the center, you can let go of anything that's you're holding on to that no longer serves. And then you turn around and you come back out again. Mindful. So that that, I would say is a really important part of of the land here. The Oak trees also have an amazing amount of personality.
And for anybody who is connected to trees, they're they're totally gonna find that these oak trees are full of wisdom. Great place to go and be next to sit under and right or cry or laugh, all the trees And and I think that that most of them show themselves to people who are industries. There's also this gorgeous crystal at the top of the hill behind the lodging.
And the crystal, when ions bought the land, 1 of the donors called her Fe person, and asked him to come up and help us tune the land for the most healing that we could, you know, that the land could give besides the fact that it was already healing place was there some way that we could add direction to the healing and pull people in, pull people to wanna come here? So this Fe guy comes up, and he says this and that and this and that
and blah blah blah blah blah blah. And then he goes to this place behind the dorms up on this hill, and he says it's really important that you place a huge crystal up here because what we wanna do is we wanna shift the energy from the gate when you drive in, the energy is directed towards this hill, and then it has to keep climbing hills and keep climbing hills before it can get over the top of a hill down into a valley, and then it has
to climb back over another hill. So it it doesn't create a pull. To bring people and to pull energy and to pull for healing. So if you place this crystal here, it'll shift the direction of the energy from the gate, and it will pull it up into a valley and then it'll go down into the neighbor's into the neighbor's field. And through this this other valley. So it's like it's like this super strong pull to bring people in. So the crystal is an amazing
spot. And that crystal was placed there 20 years ago. I think 10 years ago, some of the caretaker that lived here had guests and those... The guests that they had had 2 children who wanted to go play by the Crystal, the crystal was calling to them. So off they went to play, and they were up there for, like, hours. Finally, they come running back down to the house and they say to their mom and to the caretaker here at the time. You guys gotta come up and see what the Crystal told us to do.
Off the parents went up the hill, and the kids had taken rocks just rocks that they found, and they created this perfect circle outside of the crystal And when the parents said, why did you put those there? And the children said, Well, the crystal wanted us to make sure that there was enough space so that people would stand far enough away in order to get the healing from the crystal. And the circle is still there that those kit... That those children laid
and it is quite profound. If you stand outside the circle versus standing... Inside the circle, you get a whole different energy shift. I would say those are 2... And and the garden, of course, the garden in the garden, there's a fountain in there called a flow form. I think that it was created by philosophical doctor in Sweden, maybe the shapes were designed by him, and his belief was that water p itself through water's natural form.
And so if you go and you stand by the fountain, you'll see the water comes out, and then it creates these figure eights. As it comes down the fountain. And then it goes into the pond, and then it's pumped around and back up again and then it comes down the fountain. This particular fountain was designed and built by my brother sv shu who studied with the creator of the of the fountains of the flow form. So that's another really healing
place. I'm not gonna say drink the water out of there because there's fish in it, but but definitely, like, go and get the vibes because the vibes are really cool. I'm interested to hear what advice would you give to a student coming in for Hoffman experiencing the the the land out here. What advice would you give them? I guess, I would say First of all, get ready because you will transform just literally by stepping on to this the land itself. 1 thing that I might say, I mean, I
can say million things, but I... They're not going in my mind right now. Probably, really... Probably listen. Keep your eyes open and listen and look around and really taken in the sites and the smells and the sounds of the lab. And when you're walking to the dining hall, take the path in the woods, the whole path and just listen as you know. It's really vibrant a live place. Cool Tracy.
I'm just in awe of you, and I am in awe of how you've held the land and really just how interconnected you are to Hoffman what an integral part you were and just reminds me how inner inter interconnected we all are. And I just really wanna thank you for that, and I just wish you well on your next journey, and know that we will remember you in all of those places. Thank you, Liz. I'm so so glad that you guys are
here. I really am. I think it's perfect fit, and I wish you all amazing, amazing growth and health and an amazing healing for everybody who's comes here. So thanks. Thank you for listening to our podcast. My name is Liza and Rossi. I'm the Ceo and President of Hoffman Institute Foundation. And I'm Asking Rossi. Often teacher and founder of the Hop institute foundation. Our mission is to provide people greater access to the wisdom and power of love. In themselves in each other and in the world.
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