The planet's puppet masters almost surely have a plan. There's clearly maybe something there beyond the realm of man. Not till we've thoroughly tested every last close tested view, I'll find the more we think we know, the less we religion. Where would we be without c h c? Because we know they're lying to us, us don't know to what degree, where would we be without It's been a long December from the sunshine
state. I'm Greg Carlwood. And even just 2 weeks into the new year, it's hard to stay caught up on all the stress inducing psyops, weather weapon events, chemical fogs, bird flu migrations, drone swarms, and World War 3 warnings, but
we do the best we can. Though it seems like the pedonarcissist psychopathic parasites of the power pyramid are frantically flipping through every page of the big playbook, trying to keep us in a confused panic and maybe even implode the empire they built on blackmail, black markets, and even a little black magic.
It's hard not to get sucked into the drama of the day, an endless loop of narrative, counter narrative analysis, but it's important to remember how much of it is designed to do just that and how seemingly random events arrive right on schedule. Well, here to break it all down, connect the big dots, and demystify the madness is one of the best available options, my friend and yours, Charlie Robinson.
Hard to believe he's only been here 3 times before, but we've spent a lot of that time covering his great books with titles like the octopus of global control, hippocrisy, surviving in a world of cultural double standard, and The Control Demolition of the American Empire coauthored with Jeff Berwick. Charlie is also the host of the always insightful macroaggressions podcast and the emcee of the annual Anarco Poco conference in Acapulco, Mexico.
But that's not all, people. He also recently purchased the well known independent news website Activist Post and the alternative health website Natural Blaze. Busy, busy guy and as always, so much to talk about so little time. The great octopus tamer, macroaggressions maestro, and your psyops season chaos correspondent, Charlie, my man. Welcome back. Best intro in the business always. Thank you for having me. It's always great to be back on the higher side
chats. Thank you. Thank you. Well, you know, a lot of people are trying to get the audience's attention, so we really gotta jazz them up so they don't change that dial. But you are one of the best, and it's impressive to see you find these new ways of changing it up and doing creative
things and hosting events and buying websites. I really need to take more pages out of your book and find some new ways to change things up myself, but let's get into the real catalyst for coming together, and that's the 2 events that kicked off the new year, the Cybertruck bomber and the New Orleans crowd attack.
They say there's no connection between the 2, but both rented EV trucks from the same app, decided to cause chaos on the same day, and both have been military men stationed at Fort Bragg known for their psychological operations unit. That's kind of a lot of coincidences. Yeah. Just a few. I just recently recorded a Macroaggressions episode, hasn't gone out yet, talking about this exact same thing.
I get very nervous when I see things like this that line up both using the Turo app to rent electric trucks, both leaving manifestos, one written, one video, both from Fort Bragg, both were in Afghanistan at the same time, both carried out their attacks on the same day. I mean, you could call me a coincidence theorist if you'd like, but I get nervous when I see things like this, especially when the media frames it in a way that
is looking for a reaction. And I'll tell you, I was on January 1st when this was all happening. That was the first day that I was taking over activist posts. So I had my hands full. Of course, I'm watching the news because I'm republishing the news. But the thing that caught my eye, and you see that everyone's getting run over in New Orleans, and it's horrible. I can put myself in that scenario, but I also spent 10 years in Las Vegas, in Las Vegas
real estate. 1 of my best friends sold out the Trump Towers there, so I know that place really well. And it wasn't until I saw the photograph, a burning Cybertruck with the Trump logo right next to it. I took one look at it and I said, oh, we've got Operation Gladio come to American soil because if there's one thing they love to do, it's to send messages and to see a burning Cybertruck, which reminds you of Elon Musk, next to the Trump logo and these 2 have some sort of weird bromance going on.
It was a message in one photograph and I took one look at that and I said, nope. None of this is authentic. There's far more to this story than what's being reported. I'm absolutely with you. It looked like the movie poster for some post apocalyptic film coming out, like Civil War 2 or something. And the New Orleans story definitely had some weird aspects. As you say, you've been there,
I've been there. If you've been on Bourbon Street, you know it's a pedestrian street almost all the time, especially at a time like New Year's, and the barriers every city has pedestrian streets, and there's always those big metal barriers. Why were the barriers down? You know? That's the weird thing. As they say the barriers were down, I don't know that they've ever
been down. He has this ISIS flag, and then No Agenda found a clip where there was an article in a magazine run by Al Qaeda called Inspire, and they called the f 150 the ultimate mowing machine for mowing down crowds. And this was in 2016, the last time Trump was about to take office. So they really did dust off an old idea and then, like, I don't know, scramble some poor guy's brain to make him do the thing. But there also was this side story of bombs in the area, bomb making materials
in his home. It's like when these things happen, they say, well, there were definitely more than 1 shooter, and then suddenly, nope. There's a 1 shooter who acted alone. That's the vibe I got from this, like, oh, there's bombs around, but we know that ISIS equals
CIA. Right? And when I saw the Cybertruck, you know, the electric car, I thought about a conversation I had with Whitney Webb in 2020 in the lead up to that election, the Biden election, and one of the things that she was talking about was that they were role playing scenarios that might happen during the election. They were saying, Well, maybe a cyber attack on the water treatment facilities
and power stations and things like that. But the 3rd component that they were testing was electric vehicles being remotely controlled and driven into people that were standing in line waiting to vote, that they had role played that. Now it didn't happen in 2020, of course, but the idea that that's a concept that they're role playing and, of course, the group that was role playing, it was, you know, like a Unit 8200 connected Israeli firm that was, like, really
sketchy. It's like, are you saying that we should be aware of this or are you telling us that you're planning something like this? My little tinfoil hat starts to come out when I hear these things in advance. And so I had that in the back of my mind for the 2020 election. I had it in in my mind for the 24 election as well. Neither scenario has happened. But it just kinda got me thinking when I when I saw it, well, this is a truck that's being used, it's running people over, it's doing all this.
I mean, yes, that happened not too long ago in Germany over Christmas with the Christmas market where a bunch of people were run over there as well. So car as a weapon, it's not the first time we've heard that, but, of course, leave it up to the mainstream media to describe it in all of their headlines as car runs over people. Not a person runs over people. It's like maximum overdrive, like we just woke up one day and the machines had taken over and they're
just driving without people in it. But no, there's actually human beings in these cars, allegedly, and they are running people over. So as Wilford Brimley's character in The Firm said, I get paid to be suspicious when I got nothing to be suspicious about. You know? So when I see things like this, I just cannot let it go. And I think that it's worth digging into, especially when you start to notice that, you know, the overlap between the people involved.
And you say, Well, it'd be one thing if it was a disgruntled guy who had lost his job, and you could sort of understand that. But when both of the drivers have ties to the same military base, and that military base is the same military base, if we can go back just 2 years to 2022, if you remember that really creepy video that was put out called Ghosts in the Machine, That was put together by a group that is called the US Army Special Forces, which is the Green
Berets. But within that, the components that they work on, counterinsurgency, special reconnaissance, counterterrorism, information operations, psychological operations, psychological warfare. So they're the ones that put that out and it was from the 4th SIOP group, and that's Army Special Forces Information Operations. And just so that people aren't confused as to, like, well, maybe, maybe not, you know, maybe
it's them, maybe it's no. No. If you watch the video to the end, and it's 3 and a half minutes long, at the very end, they put the website, goarmysof.com. It's right there. They're not trying to hide it. It's not for you to speculate as to who's behind it. They're telling you what's going on. And some of the text that runs during that video, you'll find us in the shadows. Warfare is evolving. All the world's a stage. We can deceive, persuade, change, influence, inspire.
We come in many forms. We are everywhere. Now I get freaked out when I see that. That didn't strike me as a threat to other countries. Right. I took that as a domestic threat, that the psychological warfare was going to intensify until morale improved. Right. And I really don't like the use of AI, but I did use chat GTP to ask this question about notable tragic events where the person was connected to Fort Bragg, and it gave a whole lot of events. John Walker Lind called the American Taliban.
He was an American who became famous as the American Taliban. Was arrested in 2001 in Afghanistan while fighting for the Taliban. He basically switched sides. He was stationed at Fort Bragg. Sergeant Hassan Akbar in 2003, another US Army soldier, he carried out an attack on his fellow soldiers during the early stages of the Iraq War. He killed 2 soldiers and injured several others in a grenade attack. He was from Fort Bragg.
Then you have another name I can barely pronounce, but Abdou Kalim Mujad Mohammed in 2009, formerly known as Carlos Bledsoe, much easier name to pronounce. He was involved in a shooting spree at a military recruiting center in Little Rock, Arkansas in 2009, killed a soldier, and injured another. He was from
Fort Bragg as well. And then the case of army major Nadal Hassan, a US army psychiatrist who carried out the Fort Hood shooting in 2009, also spent a lot of time at Fort Bragg, and this was just with one ask. You know, I was gonna go down the list of, like, all these events I could remember and see if there was a connection, but, I mean, that right there tells you that they got something sketchy going on there. And this is also weird. So there is a new threat of interest
with the New Orleans guy. They say that he visited Tampa twice before the attack, and there's a huge military base here called Makdil, which is apparently one of the main hubs for all Middle Eastern operations. Even on the local Tampa subreddit, someone was asking, why are there Saudi soldiers here at the Marriott? And, you know, then the people just explain, well, this is a base, you know, right here that people in the Middle East do
operations with, so it's not super unusual. But, you know, my spidey sense went off a little bit. Like, this is the kind of thing you hear about in the aftermath, the kind of warnings people say, but so there is an event coming up in Tampa. It's our biggest thing. It's called Gasparilla. It's like a pirate themed Mardi Gras. They have a big debaucherous day where adults get drunk and dress as pirates, and they bring out the pirate ship, and then they have another
day where it's kids. And my daughter last year, she loved dressing up as a pirate, being on a main road waving to everybody, everybody waving back. She still talks about it. We've been looking forward to going to the Gasparilla parade. Well, now there's articles all over Tampa about how this guy was here previously twice. They don't know if there's a connection. Security will be heightened and will be running live drills to prepare.
We've heard that before. So I don't know if I'm gonna go, but I just wanted to throw that out there now in case something happens that it's like, yeah. I mean, this is the kind of stuff that happens before an event. You know, everybody says there were warnings, there were drills that went live, this kind of stuff, and it's kinda circling around my my home city, which is a little concerning. Yeah. And Fort Bragg is a sketchy place. I mean, it's the Army's most important base.
It's the largest one too. It's 251 square miles. They have 2 airfields there. It's massive. It's in North Carolina. This is where special operations assets are stationed.
You have the US Army Forces Command, US Army Reserves Command, US Army Special Operations Command's there, 82nd Airborne is there, 3rd Special Forces Group, Delta Force is there, JSOC is there, Joint Special Operations Command, and also US Army Special Forces, which is essentially like American Gladio, and that's Green Berets, and we just talked about what they're into. But for those who are unfamiliar with what JSOC is, JSOC is the president's private kill squad.
That's the team that gets sent in when he wants something off the books and somebody to die, which normally happens in foreign countries, and this is like the Stanley McChrystals of the world. These guys, it's very much like a Gladio, like elite special forces that they'll send off to not everybody, of course, there's 60,000 people that are a part of JSOC, but the core unit, like Delta Force, they answer to the president. That doesn't go up the chain of command
to Congress. This is where, if you want to get something done off the records, that's how you would do it. It's worth noting that the golf course Trump shooter Ryan Wesley Routhe visited Fort Bragg a 147 times and stayed overnight 29 times, and so I I have to think, if you're Joe Biden, if you go back in a time machine to the summer when Trump's getting shot at and Biden's presidency is in shambles, his future as the nominee is sure to come to an end pretty soon. He can't even find his way off
the stage. And next thing you know, a guy who is associated with Fort Bragg and JSOC, this Ryan Wesley route, all of a sudden decides that he's going to shoot at Donald Trump on the golf course. Okay. Now, they didn't send their best and brightest. I think that if you had sent Delta Force, we would've had Trump's funeral 4 days later. But this guy has connections to it, so it felt very much like last ditch effort.
You know, let's have this group over there tidy up the problem and maybe take a shot at him, and then if he gets caught, if he's successful, great. If he's unsuccessful, then we just brand him as an unhinged lunatic, and, yeah, they'll dig into his past and they'll find some of this stuff, but we'll just throw our hands up and say, we didn't send him. I mean, he hated Donald Trump. What do you want us to
do? A lot of people hate Donald you want us to drag everybody down to the police station who hates Donald Trump who has a problem with him? Hell, it would be here all, you know, for the rest of the year. So this is how these things start to go. It's easy to in retrospect, you can build this case and you can look back and go, oh, my god. It was so obvious that these guys are connected. But like you said, trying to call it in advance and to recognize what will happen before it happens, that's way
more difficult to do. But if you know what you're looking for, live exercises, as you mentioned, that's a huge indicator. And when I think about the live exercises, the exercises that are a drill, but then the drill goes live, then I go to Boston bombing and things like that where you have over the loudspeaker, you hear you can hear the guy on the loudspeaker saying this is a drill, this is a drill over and over again, right? So
we're not conspiracy theorists, we're conspiracy analysts. We're analyzing actual conspiracies that are happening all the time and this is one of them And when the 4th PSYOP group of the Army's psych warfare unit decides that they're going to run an ad saying that we're everywhere and all the world's a stage, well, when events like this kick off and they have fingerprints of this group all over it, it's reasonable for us to ask the question, was this one of the events that they told us
was coming? Right. Right. Good breakdown. And it's really not even that complicated. The problem I find usually is just skepticism of the system. There's those who are skeptical. There's those who aren't. And those who aren't, don't ask any questions. But if you are skeptical of the news coverage and these kinds of events, the pieces are not that hard to put together. I mean, as you're saying, they basically put out an advertisement that's like,
we do these kinds of things. And then these things happen, and you don't apply it to the individual event. It's all right there. And I don't think we need to go as deep on the Cybertruck story, but the major thing we should talk about is the manifesto that apparently says all the drones over the East Coast are China's anti gravity drones that can attack anyone, any place. I just talked to
another guy about this. It's funny that the subreddit for UFOs was all about the Cybertruck conspiracy event, and then the conspiracy subreddit was all about the potential of UFOs. It's like the wires got crossed, and those groups are usually pretty separate. Not around here, but, you know, on Reddit, they're kind of separate. And this manifesto was apparently sent to Sam Shumate, who allegedly previously faked some emails about Ukraine funding, so his track record isn't exactly great. So they
say, you know, this is 3rd hand. I'm not saying anything here. I'm just reading. And, he goes on the Sean Ryan show to talk about it, and the FBI comes out and says, yes. We have reason to believe that manifesto is genuine and legitimate, which is really odd for them to do because they never confirm anything, especially, like, front loading a podcast appearance. Like, hey. We gotta get out there and make our announcement that this thing is gonna be genuine.
I don't know. Just something seems off with that whole manifesto story and the Sean Ryan reveal. What do you think? Did you look into this thread at all? Well, I was looking into the guy himself, Matthew Littlesburger, the guy who apparently was involved in this. He's a noncommissioned officer in the Army Special Forces. He served in Afghanistan at the same time as Shamsudin Jabbar, the guy from New Orleans. So this is Littlesberger's track record. He was in Afghanistan from 2,008 to 2010.
He was in the Congo in 2014. He was in Ukraine in 2016. Tajikistan in the tail end of 2016. He went back to Afghanistan for 2 years from 2017 to 2019. He was in the country of Georgia in 2021. And then he was in Las Vegas in 2025 on approved leave, which I get, you know, I mean, he's it the sheep dip, Tim McVay sort of nature comes to mind when I think about some
of this. So this is a guy who spent quite a bit of time in some dangerous places, as you do when you're Special Forces, it's tempting to think, well, he would know. Right? I mean, if anyone would know about these sort of weird technologies, it would be some guy who's in the Special Forces. But when you start saying it's China, you know, I go, well, that feels like misdirection to me. Maybe there are drones and maybe there are things that can do what he's talking about.
But when they start saying, well, it's China and it's been here for a while, first of all, it feels like they're trying to demonize China, which I'm not saying that China isn't up to no good. I'm sure they're doing everything they can to try and subvert us to the extent that they could. And if they had drones like that, would they park them off the East Coast? I
don't know. Maybe. But I just don't think that a manifesto from a sketchy guy who has special forces in Fort Bragg's ties is going to be enough for me to say, well, you know, let's take that one to the bank. I mean, sounds reasonable to me, and especially with the guys' I'm gonna go on Sean Ryan's podcast. You know, he's ex CIA. But in my book, ex CIA, always CIA. You don't leave the agency. Not unless you're going to work in some other capacity, which is, I left the CIA,
and now I'm gonna start this podcast. Hey, does his YouTube podcast get demonetized and strikes like ours? Did we sign up for the wrong YouTube channel when we set up ours? Because he seems to have no problem talking about all these things. But you and I, boy, I mean, I don't even have a YouTube channel anymore because I was shown just exactly how much they appreciated my content. And now all of a sudden it's got the CIA stamp of approval on it. I don't know. Color me
a bit suspicious on this one. Right. Right. And I really think this kind of stuff is a little thorny because there's people who make the claim that if you're above a certain level, then you're clearly compromised, and they'll loop me into that kind of group. And I'm like, I don't know. There's a very big difference between someone who's never been able to monetize on YouTube, has a 100,000 subscribers, sure, but can't get 500 views on a video. It's just, like, clearly, it's algorithmically
suppressed. And I don't care. YouTube can do what they want. I try to play outside of their pool. But there's definitely a difference between someone who has kind of an unnatural rise, all their guests are kinda connected. It's an ex CIA guy who is interviewing ex CIA guys and military op guys who are coming on the show to reveal the big secrets. It's like, I don't know. That's not super
genuine. Also, someone who does the interviews in person, like, if you really think out the logistics of that, every week, you have someone sitting down with you in person that you've flown out from like, it requires a pretty big infrastructure to do that kind of thing. I'm always skeptical of the in person shows and just the team that has to put all that together because it's just it doesn't really work that way. And I have nothing against Sean Ryan exactly. I just find, like, you know, my
sketchy barometer goes off, you know. And like I said, people say that about me, so I don't like to levy the same criticism at other people, but I'm also trying to back up my point a little bit more and show the difference. But Sean Ryan, when this happened, he first said he and his family were gonna go into hiding over the reveal, and then he posted this. He said, over the past few days, something's become very apparent to me. Everyone claims to want truth, transparency, and disclosure unless
they aren't a part of it. And then if they're not a part of it, they'll stop at nothing to try to destroy everything you've ever done. No matter how good or how much truth, their ego will consume their entire mind and, eventually, their entire existence. Humanity is in a sad state. And I'm just like, boo hoo, dude. I mean, it sounds like gaslighting 101. This isn't a jealousy thing. I'm doing fine.
It's all the things I mentioned, the unnatural growth, doing everything in person, putting in your Twitter profile that you are ex CIA. I mean, if you are a former CIA contractor, then you should be the first one to know about psyops and media infiltration. Is this mockingbird media in the podcasting space? Because you shouldn't be surprised of anyone's skepticism if you're saying, hey. I'm part of the machine sometimes, one foot in, one foot out. Like,
why are you surprised? People are skeptical. He should not be surprised. I don't know that he truly is surprised that people are skeptical. I mean, you can't be in that world and then leave it and then say, Oh, I've left all that behind. Well, the amount of resources that's required to get you into the CIA, they spend the money on training you, put you through an entire career.
There are very few people, maybe Ray McGovern, I don't know, maybe there's very few people that I can find, like, that used to be in the CIA that I would listen to in terms of what they have to say. No. On the one hand, they're in a position to know things that other people wouldn't know. I get that.
But when you're doing 90% truth, 10% bullshit, then that's all you need to skew a story into I mean, what if the manifesto or the email that the guy wrote about drones off of the East Coast of the USA, what if all of that was true except the China part? And it was only one lie in a sea of other information. And instead of China, it was actually, I don't know, Israel or Pakistan or whoever. Right? That would make all the difference in the
world. So you can give everybody a ton of truth and throw one tiny error in it, one slight misdirection in there, and it skews everything. And these people are taught that they're trained how to lie. Mike Pompeo bragged about when we go through school at the CIA, they teach you how to lie. So this goes to what David Icke is talking about, the mainstream alternative media,
this new segment that's popped up. And you look at the mainstream media with MSNBC and CNN, and their ratings are in the toilet after this election. And the gaslighting from them has been astronomical over the last 4 years with COVID and the Biden administration and all of that. I mean, I don't know why anybody turns on the television any longer and gets their
news there. And I think that there's a calculation that's been made by these intelligence agencies that say, all right, we can't run Operation Mockingbird on television like we used to, but doesn't mean we can't run it in the podcast world in some sort of newfangled version where we then influence these shows or we allow these shows to grow or we sprinkle magic dust on these shows and they magically get a 100,000 viewers within their 1st year, which is completely
antithetical to anybody who's ever grown a podcast knows that that's just not possible unless it's being made to happen. So I'm really think of it the way you put it, which is the live shows. But, yeah, the live shows. I mean, the sort of budget that needs to happen and infrastructure and planning and sorting and all of that. I mean, we do that on our shows,
and we understand what goes into that. But to fly people in all the time, well, you have to have money to do that, and your sponsors aren't gonna just give you money before your show is successful unless you're being made to succeed because of it. And so I think it's the new area that people need to keep their eyes on is this mainstream alternative media, and you've gotta make sure that the people that you're watching or listening to, you have to almost kind of dig
into where they get their money. Of course, we saw this in the last 6 months with the Tim Pool situation and the Bennie Johnson and all this. It's like, well, we were getting money from Tenet Media, and we didn't know where that money was coming from and we didn't maybe do the best job digging into where it's coming from. And, you know, a case can be made that, Oh, you know, Hey, listen, they didn't have to pay me for my opinions. These are my opinions regardless. They happen to be paying me.
And you might think that these are my opinions that I'm being bought, but in actuality, I feel this way regardless. I might as well take the money because, you know, I can understand how they would justify that to themselves, right? But the minute your audience starts to think that you might be compromised, oh, that's just just too hard. And it's so difficult to recover from that. I think your
credibility is is everything. And I don't know that it would be worth it if you were an authentic person that was genuinely trying to do the best job you could with your show. I don't know how you can play that game and take money from those big corporations and not expect even if you don't get pressure from them, how do you not expect your audience to just assume that you're getting pressure from them? Right. Because they're giving you
money after all. So the money in that side of things can skew it. And we, as content creators, are always extremely concerned and aware of our reputation because it's the most valuable thing we have. And if somebody wants to come in and offer you a bunch of money, my initial response would be to be very suspicious of that. Yes. Yes. And you can even look at, like, Ben Shapiro's company. You might consider that part of the mainstream alternative media.
It's like, well, there's big money behind that for sure, and, of course, they will criticize everyone but Israel. And it's like Israel deserves a little bit of criticism these days for sure. So sometimes it is about just protecting one group. It's like, no. Go ahead. Talk truth about, you say, 90 and 10. Talk truth about so many things to build the credibility, but on this one thing, you never go there. And that's kind of how a lot of these things operate. And it's not even about the money.
I mean, it is partly about the money of flying people in for in person interviews, but it's, like, people who are good interviews, people who you want to interview, they're busy people. They have lives. They aren't gonna just take 2 days out of their life to come fly to where you are to do a couple hour interview. I struggle sometimes to get people to do 2 hours because they're like, I can do a bunch of podcasts in only 1 an hour from me. And
it's like, yeah. I mean, I'm just asking you to get on Zoom. It's just one of those things. Like, every week on a schedule, you just have people who fly to you. It's like it seems like a machine. It seems like a I don't wanna say propaganda machine, but I'm saying propaganda machine. It seems that way. Nobody's gonna convince me that people get on an airplane to go have a conversation with Lex Fridman because he's interesting to talk to. The guy will put you to sleep. Shots fired.
The fact that that guy has a podcast that is automatically suggested to me every time I open up YouTube for some reason, even though I don't watch it, makes me a little bit suspicious. And and again, I can understand how some people would say, well, you guys are just jealous of this. No. I would love to have the sort of viewership numbers, but I'm not willing to do the kinds of things that you need to do in order to get that. I just can't do it. I wouldn't feel good about myself.
And if YouTube all of a sudden took a real interest in me and wanted to promote my show, man, I would be extremely suspicious of that as well because they've spent the last 8 years telling us that they hate us and they don't want our content there and they wanna ban us for certain words. And yet you view that unbalanced situation and you go, well, why is that guy allowed to say it? Well, you know, he's a trusted source. Well, is that because he has connections that are valuable to YouTube to
keep in play? Is it I mean, YouTube is obviously Google, and Google is a military contractor and we understand the role of Silicon Valley and the military and how these platforms have come to be. We understand the
origin story of Facebook. We know that it was a CIA In Q Tel project that went live, so I don't know why we would ever really be truly surprised that we're being suppressed when you've got a platform like Facebook that will throw you off there if you question ivermectin or vaccines or Israel or Sandy Hook or whatever. I mean, you name the polarizing topic, if you start to cover it, you'll get dinged. Let me rephrase that. If you start to cover it too early, you'll get
dinged. But then there becomes a time at which a couple years down the road, then the topic is safe for discussion, then Tucker Carlson can talk about, then somebody else who's a little bit more mainstream, they can all of a sudden start to have a conversation. You know what? Ivermectin. I have questions about Ivermectin. It's like, shit, we had questions about it in 2020. You wouldn't let us have the conversation. You shut us down, and now all of a sudden Tucker Carlson can have that con
I mean, good. I'm glad that you're finally talking about it for what it's worth. It's a little late, but I'm glad you're talking about it in general. But can we do this moving forward where you're not stomping on us because we're early? And when you're early, you always look
crazy. You know how that is. When you start talking about these things 18 months before everybody else, They wanna fit you for a straight jacket, but then, you know, a year or 2 goes by and it's starting to get mainstream traction and all of a sudden you're waiting for the apologies that will never come. Yeah. Good points. And mainstream alternative media is just a great term, and why wouldn't it be there? The old media system is collapsing. You have to come in with something else.
And I don't want this to sound like a pity party for us, but it's just, like, pay attention to who gets thrown right at the top of the pile routinely and their production value and the things they say. That's all. But moving on, you know, talking about what happened on New Year's, that's might as well be ancient history at this point. I mean, we're 10 days into a New Year. Things are happening so fast. That is yesterday's news. Today's news is all about the LA fires.
Obviously, I lived in California for a decade. There are fires every year, and the news is really great about making it seem like the whole area is just completely destroyed when it's really a lot more spotty than it's presented. And I just know this from friends and family who didn't live in California, always calling me every year, like, are you okay? Are you okay? And it's like, yeah. I'm okay for, like, a 50 mile radius. Maybe there's just more land out here than you think.
But this one does seem a little bit different. I mean, man, the things I see from a bird's eye view, maybe it's because I'm seeing it through the media lens for the first time rather than being present, but it seems different in terms of size and scope. What are your thoughts? I lived in California for 30 years. I was born there. My best friend lost his house in Pacific Palisades. He was so proud. I feel like I wanted to throw up when I was texting him. Are you okay? Is it gonna
miss you? And he said, it's gone. I said, oh, it's gone past you? Are you okay? Are you out of the line of fire? He said, no, no, no. Everything good is gone. I lost my house, and I said, oh my god. Another friend of mine who I'd grown up with, she lost her house. My wife's college friend lost their house. I mean, this is happening all over the place in Los Angeles. For those that aren't familiar with the area, I mean, where Pacific Palisades is, it's sort of in between Santa Monica and Malibu.
It's a beautiful place. It's in the canyons. Part of the reason why people with a lot of money want to live there is because the topography is amazing, you know? You you get changes in elevations and it's a really interesting neighborhood and, yeah, there's a lot of celebrities that live there and I think that gets most of the headlines, but it's mostly just working people people that have worked and done really well and want to live in a place that's beautiful and convenient for
them. And, you know, we saw the Maui fires and what happened there. And it's a combination of government well, I don't even want to call it incompetence. It's malice, because it's more intentional. Decisions that get made by these officials talking about where the water goes. I mean, if we remember, Maui, they turned on the hydrants and
nothing came out either. So the water gets cut off, political decisions, at least in California, some of the decisions were made with what they did with the rainwater and they didn't fill the reservoirs because there's an endangered fish that likes when it's half saltwater and half freshwater and it lives in this. They're like, Oh, my God. Who cares about the fish?
You're in Southern California, a place that burns all the time, with PG and E, the electric company who's been involved in fires, the Camp Fire which killed a ton of people, and others. They're always at the forefront of this. Gavin Newsom had a crew in his office rewrite some legislation to protect them moving forward, of course, because why wouldn't you protect the power company who's responsible for the deaths of, I think, 80 people in the Camp Fire? Yeah. Well, let's not
increase our spend on fire mitigation. Let's protect Pacific Gas and Electric because, you know, they contribute to my campaign, and so we've got to take care of them first. So there's decisions that are made on a state level, on a local level, and there's incompetence that's almost sort of baked into the equation.
When you've got Karen Bass running in L. A. And when you've got Gavin Newsom running California, these people are terrible at their job to the point where you have to ask the question, are they there because they're terrible at their job? It can't be based on merit, because if it was on merit, you'd find anybody else. But it seems that they want the worst
people there. They want the most unqualified and incompetent people there so that when things go wrong and they go wrong all the time, whether accidentally or intentionally, they can then say, well, we'll put it on Karen Bass and she'll stand in front of that microphone bank and people will be firing questions at her. She'll stand there like an idiot frozen for 2 minutes and not say a damn thing to anybody.
You go, these are our elected officials? I mean, I hope that this is a wake up call for the people of California in general and Southern California in particular. Wildfires are not uncommon. Happening in January is not normal, but wildfires in and of themselves have always been part of it. As somebody who who lives in Southern California, you just
sort of plan accordingly for it. You do the best you can and put the fire breaks in and make sure that you're defended, you know, your property is as protected as possible. But they cut the budget for that stuff. They cut the budget for the fire department. They sent a bunch of equipment to
Ukraine. You know, this is the type of things you do when you are running a banana republic, not when you're running an actual country that's trying to put its best foot forward in hiring the best and brightest to represent the community. No, it's we've got to get a black woman to be the mayor of Los Angeles because there are so many black people in Southern California that we want them to feel like they're represented. Okay, fine. That's great. I have no problem with that.
Is she the most qualified? Well, no. She's functionally retarded. Well, then can we get a different black woman in there that I don't even care if it makes everybody feel better that she's of a particular race and gender or ethnicity or handicap or she ticks all the diversity boxes. Just get somebody in there who actually knows what they're doing and wants to help people and wants to
make things better. But I take a look at this cast of characters, especially in California, And you can't tell me that they've been put in there because they're the best they have been put in there because they're controllable. They won't ask tough questions. And when things go wrong, you can count on them to fail and fail upwards, which is what's happened through
all of California. I mean, we almost got a president of the United States who had failed upwards through the chain of command in California for 25 years, who has nothing on her resume except one catastrophe after another. And she was damn near the president of the United States. So unfortunately for people like Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom and Chesa Bowden, who is the district attorney of San Francisco, who implemented the, you know, you can steal anything $950
or less, and it's fine. We're not gonna do anything. These people, they're not incompetent accidentally. They're incompetent on purpose. They're there because they're broken people. Right. And those are great points, and I never I can't say I never thought about it this way, but maybe not at the scale and scope. But the DEI thing just being like, you have to have a sales pitch. You have to have a positive way to do something negative
a lot of the time. So if you're trying to exacerbate disasters and do something like the title of your book, The Controlled Demolition of the American Empire, when you put out an operation or use a weather weapon, you don't want competent people to shut it down quickly. You want incompetent people to make the mess way worse. And how do you get that? Well, you gotta sell it maybe with the DEI. It's kinda like the whole immigration thing. The news does not separate
immigrants from illegal immigrants. They just say they're migrants and they're refugees, and it's like, no. A lot of people are totally fine with immigration. It's the border being open and the illegal immigration that people are not cool with. And the fact that you can't separate the 2 and you try to just paint everyone as
some racist bigot, I mean, that's telling. And you can say that this is kind of the same template, the DEI template of getting incompetent people into positions of power just to make things fall apart faster. This one woman, she's the LA Department of Water and Power CEO, Janice Quinones. She apparently makes 750 k a year, and when she was asked why the water was out, she didn't really know. She's not quite sure even though she's in charge of the Department of Water.
Then, yeah, the African mayor, Karen Bass, she's in Ghana during all this. It's, like, not even present. And I think we saw it was the police chief who was being interviewed, and she won't even speak. She's absolutely frozen. It's like, wow. I mean, these are the people who are in charge of this stuff. And just like the barriers not being up in New Orleans, why are the fire hydrants dry? It's like everything is set in place to not be able to handle the problem when the can is kicked over.
And it's sad to hear that you know so many people who have lost their homes. My first guest of the year was Maja Deo, and she emailed me earlier just to say that her house is gone. I saw posts from our mutual friend, Monica Perez. It looks like her house is there, but the fire was right up on her driveway, and her whole neighborhood is largely destroyed. And even if your house is still standing, there's a lot of pieces to pick up. And the smoke, you know, people are like, oh,
don't breathe the smoke. It's like, well, of course not. But also, these houses are burned to the ground. Think about all the plastic and toxic bullshit and Styrofoam and just all the nutty stuff that are in people's homes, their TVs melting and all the chemicals that releases. Yeah. You need to get the hell out of there. What do you think about the weather weapons
angle? I mean, this always pops up every time, but we have seen pictures of houses burnt to the ground, trees still standing, the blue trash cans sitting there like there's nothing wrong with them, and blue was a big thing before, like the directed energy weapons for some reason. Avoid blue things strange, like something in the paint, but what are your thoughts on some of those ideas that this was a weather weapon and not just the natural thing and then the added incompetence?
Now that you you mentioned Karen Bass being in Ghana when this went down, wasn't the governor of Hawaii out of the country as well when the Maui fires hit? I think he was conveniently elsewhere. The situation in Maui, first of all, if you complied, you died. If you were somebody trying to escape that on the road and the cops were turning you around, the people that listened to the police and went back didn't make it. It's only people who disobeyed the orders that were able to
get out from that road. And of course, you dig into it in the aftermath, and you go, well, what was going on there? We're hearing all these questions of directed energy. Is this are we just making something out of nothing? Well, in Maui, it's one of the 2 directed energy facilities that they're testing all of this stuff based there in Maui. So it's reasonable to think that. I'm suspicious of these I mean, on the one hand,
Southern California has fires. Right? So it provides the cover story needed. You could say, well, fires do happen there, and you go, oh, yeah. I know. They do. I mean, I can't say that they don't. But when I see the aftermath of a row of houses that are all burnt to the ground and out in front, right at the curb, there's a blue trash can and it didn't melt. And I know it's made out of plastic because I got a trash can, it looks just like that in my garage.
You know, I start to ask questions when I see in Maui that certain trees were not burning and others were burning from the inside. That's very suspicious. We saw pictures of that going on in Pacific Palisades as well, where trees look like they were erupting from inside. They were burning on the inside. I don't know how that works. I'm not an expert in fire. Maybe somebody can set me straight and say, Well, that's sort of a normal thing.
Maybe it is, but it's abnormal for it to be happening all at the same time in different spots. And I know that there's currently somebody that got arrested last night for arson, who was involved in setting some fires. I don't know if that is a copycat situation. I don't know if that is a plausible deniability, some setup where they stick some guy out there and say, hey. Light this thing on fire. I'll give you a $1,000 if you do it. And then he gets caught, and you can say,
see? It's arson. It's just human beings doing stupid things. It's certainly not satellites or drones or whatever. But we know that technology exists. We know that there's drones that spray fire because they use them to start back fires, legitimate backfires that the fire department is trying to start in order to do controlled burns. We know that they've used drones, flamethrower
drones that are very scary looking. Now, is that something that the fire department uses for starting backfires or is it possible that that technology can also be owned by somebody else who wants to start fires? And cui bono, who benefits from this? What's going on?
I knew a couple months ago that State Farm and multiple insurance companies had made the calculation that doing business in California was no longer profitable for them and that they had decided they were going to drop coverage for a lot of these places in Southern California. And to me, I didn't actually get suspicious when I heard that. I actually thought, I don't blame them if you have to deal with the state of California and the insurance regulations and everything that comes
with it. I almost can't blame any company for wanting to leave California at this point because to do business there is becoming increasingly more difficult. But when I see that it happens real fast afterwards, you know, not fire season, winter. Not that Southern California has a traditional winter like everybody else, but it's not 95 degrees with Santa Ana winds like you get in August. It's winter, and we're getting Santa Ana winds there, and the timing seems
off to me. And you couple that with the fact that the insurance companies pulled out in advance, and you asked the question, is that did they know something that we didn't know? Or did they just think that doing business in California was so onerous with all of the regulations and restrictions that are put on it by these woke morons in Sacramento that run the state, run it poorly? Is this a business calculation or is it something more than that? Hopefully, we'll figure out
what's going on. I mean, as of the recording of this, they're still on fire. The fires haven't been put out yet, so we're gonna have to do a post mortem on this whole event in the aftermath. And again, the media will do what it always does, which is make a big deal out of it right now for a couple of days. And as soon as it's over, 72 hours later, it'll be out of the news cycle and they'll be on to something else like they are. I mean, you don't think that the Maui people are
all doing fine. They're just not getting coverage anymore. So the assumption is, well, I don't hear about them anymore, so it must everything must be sort of sorted out there. Well, it's not sorted out. They're all still having major problems. And my heart broke for Maui because that was such an important place for me. It's a place I had been going as a kid. When my dad passed away when I was 16, my mom and I, it was obviously rough, and it happened over Thanksgiving
back in 'eighty 8. And when we got to Christmas break, my mom said, we need to get out of town and where do you want to go? And I said, well, we've gone to Maui before and we really liked it, and my dad really liked it, and maybe we should go to Maui and lick our wounds there for 2 weeks and get out of town. And so I have an association with Maui there, been going back and forth. I spent my 50th birthday. We were there. I took my daughter who had never been. We were in Lahaina. We
did all the shopping. We had dinner at Kimo's and did the things that you do when you go there and it's such a fantastic place. And then a couple of months later, that happened. And, you know, if it's an authentic organic sort of fire that just kind of broke out and everything, that that
would be one thing. But given our level of understanding about what's really going on and you find that this is being done intentionally and you have questions about smart cities and my heart breaks for all those people that were affected by it, but through no fault
of their own. And I wonder if they're going to you know, I wonder if the people of Southern California are going to wake up after this and say, you know, we have allowed incompetent leadership to take a hold of our state and run it into the ground.
And even if you take out the directed energy component, even if you've set that off to the side, just the fire mitigation component that could have easily been put in place and should have been in place and was in place and Gavin Newsom withdrew it and made it so these areas were more susceptible to fire risk. That is a crime.
And so even if these victims never connect all the dots, even if they just connect one dot, which is government incompetence or maliciousness, however you want to frame it, was responsible for setting the stage for something like this where it could happen or could accelerate that in and of itself should be enough to get people to start thinking about the representative officials in a different way. But of course,
in Southern California, maybe not. Maybe after being a blue state for all these years, they're just resigned to their fate that they're gonna have Democratic leadership in there. And I'm no Republican either, but Democratic leadership who's focusing on what gender the fire truck is rather than making sure that there are fire trucks there on the scene. Right. And, again, it's like if the system wasn't always lying to us about everything, we wouldn't
have to jump to conclusions. We wouldn't have to be immediately skeptical if they didn't have this climate change program that they're trying to jam down our throats when they're lying about things, we wouldn't have to connect the dots and say, well, this seems like it kinda fits with the picture you're trying to paint, the picture you're trying really hard to paint that isn't naturally coming together for you. Seems like this might be part of it, but we're going a little over. I love talking
to you. Before we go, we gotta talk about why we do the dance and do the promotion stuff. So you got activist post now. You got natural Blaze. We could all use trusted information sources outside of the social media firehose and the mainstream media and the alternative mainstream media. Talk to people about these websites, other things you got going on. Give them the anarcho poco pitch. I mean, the list is long. You're an active guy. I have created a ton of work for myself. That is true.
Activist post was just one of those synchronistic type things. I got an email from the owners in July 2024, saying we've been doing this for 15 years, and we're ready to transition into something else. But we've built these great platforms, activist post, natural Blaze, and we don't want them to go away, we would love for somebody who's ideologically aligned with us to carry on the work, would you be interested? And I said, No. And then I waited about
48 hours. And then I thought, you know, when the universe presents you with an opportunity, sometimes your job is to act on it. I thought about it. I thought I can't afford not to do it. Activist post has been an important part of my life. I've been reading them for 10 years, and I thought I could do this. So we made the decision, I agreed to
buy the company. And one of the things that I wanted to do is rebuild the website, been in existence for 15 years, kind of an older site, wanted the new one to work really well on mobile and to be secure because everybody's on their phone. So it flies on mobile. But I didn't build an app, didn't want to centralize control into an app store in either the Apple ecosystem or Google. Too easy for them to say no to it. I
watched that happen with Zero Hedge. And so if anyone's interested, they can bookmark activist posts on their phone and just get to it that way. So there's not gonna be an app. That's not because I don't wanna build one for convenience. It's because I don't wanna build one because it's too easy to centralize the censorship into that. So it launched January 1st. I'm the new editor over there. I get to curate the content and pick the articles that I think are important.
We've got 8 categories there. One of the categories I thought was extremely important is solutions. We do a good job of complaining about the problems out there. But if we don't offer solutions, what good are we, you know? So that's part of it that I wanted to make sure that people had an opportunity to go there and not just read about some of the dire things that are happening worldwide, but also have a path towards getting themselves out of the system to the extent that they can.
And part of that also, you know, it fits with the overall all the work I'm doing, albeit in Mexico and Acapulco, middle of February for Anarcapulco, the 11th annual largest anarchist conference in the world that happens every year in Acapulco, Mexico. It's fantastic. It's 5 days. Every day is a different topic. Day 1, fuck the government. Day 2, health and wellness. Day 3, crypto. Day 4, sovereign skills. You know, I watched an amazing presentation about ancient
trees when I'm done emceeing. And I go sit in the stands with my notebook and just take notes, and I get to meet everybody that's there, all the speakers. It's a fantastic place. I really encourage people if you've got the opportunity to get there in the next couple weeks, you should go I mean, listen, there's worse places to be than Mexico in February. It's beautiful there. But more so than that, it's very inspiring.
You're around people that are actually doing things that aren't just complaining, but they're actually building outside of the system. They're not interested in fixing the current system. By the way, they have no interest in doing that. What they're doing is they're building parallel systems that are outside of it. So if you want to get connected with people, it's very international in scope. If you can make it, go. If you can't, you can stream it, and you can watch it
from home. And it's like the all star weekend, you know, of the alternative media, everybody's there. I had one of the coolest experiences last year where we opened the 1st day of it. The first interview we did was David Ike. He wasn't able to be there in person, but I was able to interview him remotely. I was on the stage. He was behind me on the massive big screen. And then I had a live audience with all the people and we had asked them, get your questions, fill out your questionnaire.
And so I had all the questions that the audience wanted to ask David. So I was conducting the interview asking the questions while I had my Ike shirt on, my Ikea shirt. It's like the Ikea yellow Ikea shirt, but it had the Ike logo on it instead. It was a trip, man. I felt like I was having an out of body experience because in 2019, my first year there, I had a chance to sit front row and watch David Icke do a 4 hour
presentation. That was fantastic. And for me to go from that position there, and I and I met him that during that trip, and we've stayed in contact over the years. The Icke's have been very good to me. For me to then have the opportunity to interview him on the stage was a huge thrill for me. So this year, we've got Gareth Eich will be out there, and there's a whole lot of characters. I encourage people to go to anarkopulco.com
and see what you think. And if you find something that you like, if you're interested in going, use the discount code macro. That'll save you some money. But come on out and enjoy it during the day. And then at night, we'll go to Max Egan's bar. He's got a Casa de los Cuervos right down the street, the crow house. It's where everyone goes at night. You can sit out there. They got live music. You can have a beer, smoke a joint out in the patio. Nobody gives a
shit. It's a fantastic place. It'll renew your faith in humanity. I'll tell you that. When you get done after that week and you get on the plane and you're leaving, you're gonna have a network of people that you can reach out to, you might even be thinking about relocating somewhere else. And you're gonna restore your faith that there are good people out there, very smart people that are tired of dealing with the government.
And they have decided that they're more qualified to handle things than they think the government is. And so they're building outside of the system, and it is very inspiring. So I encourage people to go and check it out. And of course, macroaggressions, the podcast, We celebrated our 5 hundredth episode. I put that out a couple of weeks ago. That was an episode that was about my mom.
Had a rough 2024 with her as I came to Las Vegas to be with her for a medical diagnosis, which turned into a stage 4 pancreatic cancer diagnosis in a 90 day window. And so I spent the last 98 days of her life with her and helped her with that transition. What a humbling and amazing experience that was. Obviously, very sad. But we watched funny movies at night. We ate ice cream, even though, you know, ice cream kind of fuels cancer. But when your mom asks for ice cream, you
get her ice cream. You know what I mean? So we we did that, and we had a great time. And we said everything that needed to be said. And when I listened to all her stories that I'd heard a million times before, but I wanted to hear them one more time. And I was there with her when she passed away. And I feel like that was the end of one chapter of my life. I knew that activist post was going to be kicking off a couple weeks later.
And now I'm in the new chapter. So I encourage people who are interested in getting news from a place that's not going to get censored. Tell you that right now because I'm in charge of it. And so if you like what you see there, please, I'm asking you nicely, share the content with other people. Just share it. That's all you need to do. Just find something you like, put it on social media or send it to a group of people that might benefit from it, and that's how we keep this thing
going. And I appreciate you having me back on, Greg, as always. I enjoy and really look forward to our conversations. Oh, yeah, man. I wish we did it more often. I tend to just wait until someone has a book. You know? You're always writing too, but the news was stacking up, and I was excited to hear about you buying those papers. I was like, digital papers, I guess. But, yeah, I was like, yeah, we got some things to talk about, and, it is
always a pleasure. And it's always sad to lose someone you're close to, especially a parent when you got young kids, and you know that that story, that relationship is kind of over. But I guess all we can ever ask for is to make sure we say all the things that we wanna say and nothing goes unsaid. And if you get that time with a person who still has their faculties, I mean, they don't live forever. So sad, but, you know, I'm glad you got that with your mom. So,
yeah, man. It's tough out there, but thanks for taking the time. We covered some great stories in just the first two weeks of a new, probably very crazy year. I'm lucky to know you. Best of luck in the new ventures. Thanks for stopping in. Thanks for having me. Yes. There we go. A return to form for THC with just the guy to get us there. Man, the news cycle is really redlining everyone's attention just a couple weeks into the new year, I'm starting to feel like they really love
to do that. Sandy Hook kinda hit around Christmas, New Year's time, and, of course, COVID was the start of 2020, especially in the last few years. That new year's new start, ready to do it fresh energy just gets deflated by couple of high profile events. And then it seems like a lot of people's emotional tank gets kinda drained. And I understand, especially with what I've seen online, there's probably not a lot of empathy for people living in LA.
But you gotta remember, it is not just Hollywood celebrities and slimeball agents and creepy producers. There's a lot of regular people who just grew up there, and a lot of people willing to suffer the vow of poverty in their youth, hoping to take a long shot at a dream. A dream I think is kind of fizzling out, but, hey, that isn't my problem. But I really shouldn't have to remind anyone that a city, any city, is 1,000,000 of different people enduring many different life conditions.
But I've just seen so many posts that are like, fuck it. Let California burn. This is what you get. Those types of comments, it's like, come on. So many people live in places where they loathe their leadership and the decisions that have been made, but it's not in our power. And many cities and states have cartoonish archetypal stereotypes about the people that live there, but we all know that every kind of person lives every kind of
place. And this is the suffering of our fellow citizens, but I am glad we could both bring some stuff to the table when it comes to those New Year's events. Almost seems like ancient history already. But that Tampa event that is tangentially connected to the New Orleans guy Gasparilla, it's actually today. Well, today is the children's parade that my daughter walks in, and then tomorrow is the main drunk fest event. But fingers crossed, it is uneventful.
Let's hope there's nothing to worry about. But, yes, Charlie is a favorite. He really should be someone we talk to more frequently when we have these peak psychodrama periods. He has such a great conspiratorial background that he can really put the pieces together quickly and apply the same old templates appropriately. He knows how to parse the story for what's important and what's probably bullshit. We're on the same page with just a lot of stuff. Good guy.
I feel like I was a little out of touch with what people were wanting the past couple weeks, at least that's what they told me. I like both shows with Maja and Josh Cutchen and Ryan Grolick, but in the context of a current events heavy jump start on the new year, people were expressing to me that they would have rather had something more related to the news cycle. The old bread and butter conspiracy.
But I can only move so fast sometimes, but either way, I think we got to be pretty thorough, and I hope we said all the things that need to be said. We didn't talk about the UFO disclosure stuff very much. Not exactly Charlie's bag, more of a Josh Cutchin thing, but they're saying today is the big reveal. New evidence expected. New whistleblower. Some say they might even show materials or have footage of a craft retrieval. I don't hold my breath. I don't get
all worked up. I don't even think that they're operating within the right paradigm or that I want disclosure to come from the military. They're clearly angling for something. They always are, but just figured since it was relevant that today seems to be that reveal, keep an eye out. You might hear a few interesting threads. At least it's good from an analysis standpoint even if you don't take it all at face value. But that said, really good first hour today. We tried to fit in a lot of
stuff. I tried to make sure it was front loaded with the good information, the important stuff. The plus show, of course, only adds more. We talked about operation sea spray, which is maybe related to the fog people see. We got into the bird flu threats and the manipulation of the food supply and the control of local farmers, and we talked about building parallel systems to empower the individual against that government overreach.
I do think the true revolution is more about just being self sufficient and more independent from the big system, But several things I found interesting in that second hour. Sign up at the higher side chats.com or use the links right in the show notes. Join one of the longest running and most successful ad free podcasts ever. I'm gonna start pitching it like that a little bit more because I do think I've earned it. The archive is 700 plus shows with 500 plus different unique
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As a reminder, Operation Sea Spray was in 1950 and this says since 1950 SMARSessions has steadily increased as a cause of human infection. With many strains resistant to multiple antibiotics. The first indications of problems came with the influenza vaccine produced by Chiron Corporation in 2004, which involved s Marsessions contamination. In early 2008, the FDA issued a nationwide recall of one lot of prefilled heparin lock flush solution.
The heparin IV flush syringes had been found to be contaminated with SMAR sessions which resulted in patient infections. The Center For Disease Control confirmed growth of SMAR sessions from several unopened syringes of the product. It has been linked to 19 cases in Alabama Hospitals in 2,011 including 10 deaths. All of the patients involved were receiving total parenteral nutrition at the time. So basically getting IV fluids. 19 cases, 10 dead.
Bit of a coin flip if you got a syringe tainted with this bacteria, but this is the same bacteria sprayed on San Francisco in Operation Sea Spray and what 2 random Internet sources without much verification claim has been tested for in the chemical tasting fog people were experiencing recently. But then I thought, Chiron, that's another one of those esoterically charged names. Well, here's the deal with that. Chiron was notable throughout Greek mythology for his
young nurturing nature. His personal skills tend to match those of his foster father, Apollo, who taught the young centaur the art of medicine, herbs, music, archery, hunting, gymnastics, and prophecy, and made him rise above his beastly nature. Chiron was known for his knowledge and skill of medicine, and thus was credited with the discovery of botany and pharmacy, the science of herbs and medicine.
Like satyrs, centaurs were notorious for being wild, lusty, overly indulgent drinkers, violent when intoxicated, and generally uncultured delinquents. Chiron, by contrast, was intelligent, civilized, and kind because he was not related directly to the other centaurs due to his parentage. He was the son of the Titan Cronos, obviously AKA Kronos, obviously AKA Saturn, and the oceanid, Valera. Man, sometimes I'm just like, what even is Greek mythology?
Also, if you've ever gotten a detailed birth chart, they do sometimes incorporate the asteroid Chiron. Well, it's actually a comet if you wanna be technical, but for some reason, it's called an asteroid in a lot of the birth charts that I've seen. But in terms of things that aren't planets that are incorporated into birth charts that also aren't the sun and the moon, Chiron is probably top of the list. I mean, we narrow it down that far, things that aren't the sun and the moon
or planet. It probably is the whole list. It's the only other thing that I've ever seen thrown into birth charts. But I thought that was interesting. Another one of those names of a corporation that harkens back to those old metaphysical names and space. But I love that Charlie is expanding his work, trying some different things, like Josh Cutchin producing a documentary on the last episode. I should do more outside of the show itself, I think, but I don't know what that would be. Oh, well.
On the subject of the last show, you know we always point out what it was rated by the Plus People, and Josh and Ryan picked up a 4.4. Not bad. It got a little scary for a minute, but a 4.4 is a good recovery from the lower number that I saw a few days ago. But I thought it was better than that. We really started cooking with gas when we got into the disclosure stuff and into the second hour, but the number doesn't lie.
Before we go, you know we like to hit the meetup calendar, lay it out where THC fans are getting together, and here's what we got. 1st on deck is January 23rd at the Coral Tree in LA. Hopefully, that's still going on. Make sure you check with the host and confirm. January 25th, Allentown Alchemist at McCall Collective Brewery in Allentown, Pennsylvania. We got the Conway pub meetup on February 1st in Conway, Washington, and February 3rd, Auckland, New Zealand at Gail Brauth's Ale House.
February 8th, McCall Collective Taphouse in Baringsville, Pennsylvania. Still not sure if that's the same location with a different town name. February 10th, Santa Fe, New Mexico, the Cava meet and greet at Roots and Leaves. February 15th, h two booster in the Netherlands. And then, of course, March 8th, a meet up here in Tampa somewhere with me and Gordon. Still circling around the venue. We hit a couple dead ends as negotiations were taking place.
One of the owners in particular got very concerned about what we might be talking about. And, you know, whatever. We talk about taboo things. If you're uncomfortable with it, then probably this isn't a good fit. But we will overcome. We will find something. Also, in February, as Charlie said, Anarko Poco. Probably one of the biggest and most fun sounding last remaining conspiracy conferences on this island Earth.
An event I do wish I could go to, and I really might try to make it more of a thing next year, but use the coupon code macro if you do plan to go this year. Good stuff, though. Bookmark his new ventures activist post and natural blaze. I hope we can at least support him by making those sites part of our news digestion routine. I know he will fill it up with good stuff, and it's an ambitious undertaking. But I support the passion and the effort. Again, just feel really lucky to know Charlie.
And to close this one out, I wrote a song with lyrics inspired by Charlie's first book. As is the case now, you can download these songs on the show page from the website if you wanna copy. It's free for all. Just a silly little thing, but I was just about to put this episode out with a song that I came up with playing off Charles in Charge, but at the last second, I realized how bad it was and started over. And now my 3 year old is already singing this one, so you're welcome, kid.
Take care. I've done my part. Your move American Gladio operators, weather weapon wielders, and mainstream alternative media promoters. Your fucking move. We are in a lot of trouble across every industry. Food, water, lettuce, and computer tech and energy. The people aren't paying attention. Not much is getting through. Gains in the information war are getting long overdue. What's left for the big old octopus to get its tentacles
around. Sure, it's got a grip on everything, but it's a long way down. A oily appendage is on a big monster we know, working their way in every orifice all over the globe. But we need to be united. We need to make a better case. Facts over propaganda, justice over grace. What's left for the big old octopus, to get its tentacles around? Sure, it's got a grip on deconstruct the playbook for us. Wake them up, get a little loud, they can't continue to ignore us. Us. The history is obvious.
The future's changing fast. Lead us not into temptation by parasitic psychopaths. What's left for the big old octopus to get its tentacles