¶ Headliner PodPod Intro
>> Nicholas: Howdy, everyone. My name is Nicholas, and welcome to the headliner pod. Pod. We're a show about podcasts, featuring podcasts by podcasters that's hosted by people who help podcasters with their podcasting. On each episode, a few of us folks over at Heliner sit down to play a game that centers around listening to randomly selected clips from over 500 podcast submissions we've gotten from podcasters.
Why? Well, in order to find what we call Pod Zero, here are the each lucky contestant will hear a 62nd podcast clip. Theyll then need to pick the correct podcast title from a lineup of three choices before being shown the artwork for that show.
¶ Let's meet today's contestants
Before we get this show on the road, though, lets say hi to each of our contestants for today, starting with Prateek. >> Kristy: Yeah, everyone. >> Nicholas: Next. up, we've got Kristy. >> Kristy: Let's go. >> Nicholas: Followed by Jesse. Hello. And Max. >> Max: Aloha. >> Nicholas: Very, very festive. M. Well, are you saying hello or goodbye before we, you know. >> Max: Yes, both. >> Nicholas: Good answer. Because that is what aloha means.
Anyway, we, also have Elissa, who has a very long and meticulously crafted ad read for us today, I believe. >> Elissa: Headliner. >> Nicholas: Okay, cool. So, moving on. Now, speaking of
¶ Prateek: Michael Jackson did not kill anyone
Wayne's world references, just like. All right, cool. Let's just dive right into things, shall we? Prateek. How about you go first today? >> Kristy: Let's do it. >> Nicholas: Cool. >> Speaker F: I will say he did end up serving jail time in the two thousands for an unrelated robbery and kidnapping. Can you imagine just being in his position and having this, like, lifetime of riches and fame in front of you and you throw it all away. And he did lose
the civil case. He lost the civil case, but he did not pay even a fraction of what he was supposed to pay. So he basically got away from it. Scott free in all respects other than his image has been tarnished ever since, which is something, but not enough. It was brilliant in the naked gun. I will give him that. It's like the whole Michael Jackson thing. I'm separating the artist from the human. Michael Jackson did not kill anyone. See the Michael Jackson thing as a
little less black and white than OJ. Like, OJ did it. Everybody knows he did it. Michael probably did it, but I think there's some room for doubt. I don't want to get into whole thing. >> Max: Tim, do you have a guest? >> Speaker F: Now, you mentioned only 1 hour. There was an athlete on the list, so we already went over OJ. Are there other ones? There is another one. >> Nicholas: Okay. There was our clip. I somehow knew as soon as like, the audio started playing.
I was just like, what if they're talking about OJ? OJ. >> Speaker G: I know, I was. I was waiting for it. >> Speaker F: So I was like, it's definitely OJ. >> Kristy: I'm not sure, but you can. >> Nicholas: And then they said it. Yeah. So here are your choices for today.
¶ Ten-ish anyone?
Number one, do the crime, sometimes do the time. Number two, tennis podcast. And number three, doing the thing. >> Kristy: I think I'll go for the first one. That seems to be. Yeah, on point. I have no idea what ten ish podcast would be related to this. What was the third one again? >> Nicholas: Doing the thing. Yeah, like that is d o I n without the apostrophe or the g. Literally. >> Kristy: Could be anything. >> Speaker G: I'll, go for the first one.
>> Nicholas: I'll go for the first one. Okay. Do the crime, sometimes do the time is woefully incorrect, so sorry. It was tennis podcast. I'm assuming it's some kind of top ten show. Something like that. Watch Mojo's top ten killers, if you will. So here is a bit more about it. This was from the episode most famous celebrity Killers, episode 256, and our show description
is Nick Emmel. And guests deliver a mix of entertainment, education, and satirical banter as they cover fact based top tennis lists in history, true crime, food, pop culture and more. One host is prepped with fun facts, but the other is guessing the list in real time, creating an unpredictable rollercoaster of laughs, learning, and chaos. 250 plus episodes exploring everything from the top ten ish highest grossing films to the smartest animals to the deadliest cults. Theres a top ten ish
list for every little fancy, sorry. For every weird little fancy. And if youre in the mood for a quick fix, our short form series, the the tiny tennis drops, bite sized episodes every first Monday of the month right here in this feed. So there you go. Honestly, I thought, like, a top ten podcast would just be a lot drier than that, but it's kind of cool. They sort of gamify it by, like, having someone guess the list in real time. I just appreciate that. I think that's neat.
then again, I'm also a sucker for trivia, so I guess that that just speaks to my needs as a listener. Anyway, moving on forward, let's go with, Kristy next.
¶ Krisy & the MiniDisc
>> Kristy: All right, I'm ready. I'm ready. Hold on. Where's a fun thing I can use? >> Nicholas: Yeah, what's your fun thing this week? >> Kristy: I usually have a bunch of weird stuff. I'll use this again. I used this last time. What? This is is actually a mini disc. >> Nicholas: Oh, wow. Cool. >> Kristy: I follow this label called board science, and they make a bunch of music on weird old diy stuff.
>> Nicholas: That's so cool. I haven't seen a mini disc in ages. >> Max: You just have all retro, retro tech collection over there. Vhs. >> Kristy: I'm trying, I'm trying. >> Nicholas: Christie's coming for me with my weird retro tech. >> Max: How does minidisc compare to vinyl mini disc? >> Nicholas: It's actually an awful format. Just saying. >> Max: Oh, he's hanged on your mini disc, Kristy. >> Kristy: No, no, no one said it was good.
>> Nicholas: Yeah. Like, a normal CD can hold maybe one or 2gb of data, but, like, this is going back 20 years. A minidisc probably has, like, 700 megabytes, so it's just compressed audio through the board. >> Kristy: Yeah. And, like, you only saw it used for, like, six years in movies. Like, yeah, there was something secret that needed to be passed from one thing. It was always like, a mini disc. >> Nicholas: Yeah. It's only cool because of movies and the Nintendo
GameCube. That's the only reason anyone knows what a mini disc is anyway. Yeah. Let's get this clip going. >> Speaker G: If you looked at them, you wouldn't necessarily know that Jake does a guttural scream at some point in the set, you know? and Bethany just kind of heard the music, and she was just like, let me just draw something up. And I think might be cool. And I was just like, yeah, cool. We're open to anything right now. And then I remember that came through. We were all just
like, what? Obviously, that's it. Like, that's perfect. And, yeah, I think we love how the aesthetic is, again, slightly different. Like, when we've seen it in playlists and stuff, we knew that that artwork would stand out, which I think it does. But also, there's a lot of subtext and the meaning of the artwork as well, that just tied in so perfectly to how we feel as a band and the stuff that Jake liked to put into words and articulate through his lyrics.
And, yeah, it is. You know, and we like as well that it kind of opens, like, oh, you 3 may have completely different takes on the meaning of it, and that's something that's really important for us. >> Nicholas: Keep it. >> Kristy: All right. >> Nicholas: All right, there was your clip, and here are your three options for today, Kristy. >> Max: All right. >> Nicholas: Number one, the itch rock radio and podcast. Number two,
behind the band. And number three, rocking around the podcast. >> Kristy: Those are all really good. >> Nicholas: They are. >> Kristy: Those are all really good. I truly believe wholeheartedly. And all of them are real. And that sucks. What is the least likely one? >> Nicholas: Are you asking me? >> Kristy: Because I know it's rhetorical. It's rhetorical. I'm, like, staring off and talking to myself. I would. I, think the behind the band is a little too on the nose.
I like. I'm gonna go with the first one. I like that. I just like the way it flowed. >> Nicholas: Okay. The itch rock radio and podcast is correct. >> Kristy: Yes. Let's go. >> Nicholas: Good on you. You're on a streak again. >> Kristy: Yeah. >> Nicholas: also, I gotta know. Elissa was rocking around the pot. A happy days reference. >> Elissa: No, to be quite honest, I think I've used it before.
>> Nicholas: Okay. I just wanted to know because, like, rock around the pod, rock around the clock. Okay. That's. >> Elissa: No, I feel like I did that around, like, Christmas. Like, I don't feel like it's an original thought. Well, it was, but not at some point. >> Nicholas: Yes. Okay, cool. Well, this was from episode 208, a conversation with Jay Crawford and Luke Cayley of Unpeople. And our description
¶ The Itch
is. The Itch is a longtime rock radio show on 89.1, the wooden KCLC FM. Now M. It's hosts to venture the podcasting world with rock news, reviews and interviews, exploring the deep connection between people and music. If it gets your head banging and your blood flowing, it's an itch we're here to scratch. So there you have it. Cool artwork. This is, obviously, like, episode specific artwork. I'm assuming it's showing both of the guests from un people and.
Yeah, just neat stuff all around. I love to see, like, radio shows make podcasts because I think we should do more to, like, preserve radio, but that's a whole other tangent. So, moving on forward, let's go with just. Yeah, Jesse, next. >> Speaker H: Yeah, you couldn't cope if you couldn't handle what was going on in your life. Like, if you were going through a horrible breakup, or something felt too much that that was just what you did. And it wasn't out, until I was
out in the world. And, like, talking to people to realize that that was so incredibly wrong. >> Speaker I: I do want to say that I was a single mom with two kids and struggling with mental health issues as well as finances. And for a split second or two every now and then, I would think, well, it'd be just so easy to turn the wheel quickly and be done with this nonsense. And so I have sympathy for those who choose that because life is overwhelming sometimes. I
really do hear you, Cassandra. The issue here is that it's normalized it's hurtful to the family. >> Nicholas: Okay, there was your clip, Jesse. And here are your options for today. Number one, beneath your beautiful.
¶ Jesse, beneath your ARE beautiful
Number two, growing through it. And number three, scars to your beautiful. >> Kristy: So I do enjoy some music, and so I think I can kind of hear a song title in one of these, maybe. >> Kristy: Not getting a rise out of Elissa, so maybe not. I am feeling strongly about number, one. Breathe. You're beautiful. >> Nicholas: And it's beneath your beautiful. >> Kristy: In case you're beautiful. Yeah, beneath your beautiful. I can't read my own writing,
so I'm gonna. I am gonna stick with number one, though. I did. I felt a gravitational pull when it was red. >> Nicholas: Sure. So beneath your beautiful is correct. Good on you. And, yeah, one of them was a song. It was the third one, scars to your beautiful. Was that the one you thought it was, Jesse? >> Kristy: Yes. >> Nicholas: Let's go. >> Kristy: Even if it wasn't, I'm going to say yes now.
>> Nicholas: Okay. Well, I almost changed. Well, I did change it, and then I changed it back. I changed it to beauty scars for all of, like, 10 seconds. And then I was like, no, I think this is a song. >> Elissa: So, yeah, 2012. >> Nicholas: There you go. I knew the words from somewhere, so I was like, okay, so, yeah. This is from the episode suicide Survivors, and here's our show
description. Welcome to see beneath your beautiful, where guests share stories of adversity and perseverance, which inspire, encourage, and challenge us. Host Hera Allison embraces these tough conversations intimately, exploring our loves, fears, and hopes with a delicious combination of depth and lightness. So, good stuff. It's about some heavy subject matter, but it sounds like a valuable podcast to have in your back
pocket. And I do appreciate the artwork for it. I think it's very clean and tasteful. Jumping on over to Max. Because you haven't gone yet, right? Yeah, you have. >> Max: I got it perfectly right. You don't remember? >> Nicholas: I don't remember. Did you go already? Am I just having a senior moment? >> Max: Not remember that I went, but you can remember that. No, I'm just kidding. >> Nicholas: Yeah, I know you are. Max. This was all a test.
There's a trap door under you that'll open. >> Max: I thought you're taking it seriously. No, somebody doesn't remember anything. I could empathize. I was like, oh, God, look, I. >> Nicholas: Had breakfast an hour and a half ago, and I don't even remember what it is, Max. So I don't blame you for thinking I might have been serious. Yeah, how did you. Okay. Anyway, cover your eyes. I have it every day. At the same time, his sensei is.
>> Elissa: Now telling him about your breakfast choices. >> Nicholas: His Sensei's a stalker. >> Speaker F: On Yishod Rodas, the Jami Bikonand Yodan Shabi of Dam Kichore Sonam Sadhguru. >> Nicholas: That might have been the greatest thing. >> Max: Great clip on this. >> Kristy: Incredible. I just want to start. >> Nicholas: It sounds like it was maybe Arabic. >> Elissa: Yeah, it sounds like symbols. Google. I don't know. I just say Google.
>> Nicholas: Now, I just want to say several things before I give you your options. One, I love these titles, Elissa. Had I known, this would have been a Christie one, just because. >> Max: How am I even. Why do we need a language screener? >> Nicholas: I don't know. >> Elissa: Best of luck. >> Speaker H: We support all podcasts. >> Nicholas: This is specifically because you tried to pull a fast one on me, Max. That's what's happening.
>> Max: Can we at least that the person guessing knows the language? I mean, it just seems like that would be a baseline of fairness. But let's go. >> Kristy: Let's just say, let's go. >> Nicholas: But next Christmas, you are all getting a copy of the Rosetta stone. How about that? >> Kristy: Oh, okay. >> Kristy: The physical stone. >> Kristy: Yeah, the phone. >> Nicholas: The actual Rosetta stone. I've had it in my closet for years. Several of
them. And, yeah, it's about time. >> Elissa: you need to splurge for your sensei training classes and get multi language. >> Max: I need to upgrade. >> Nicholas: Yeah, yeah, you need to. You need to get premium. Now, he called me and he said. >> Elissa: Hey, we gotta upgrade this man here. >> Max: So you didn't prepare me for this. Wow. It's a great. It's a good lesson. Thank you, sensei. Thank you, Elissa. All right, I'm ready for this.
>> Nicholas: Okay, well, really quick, what would the Rolling Stones have called themselves back in the prehistoric age? The Rosetta Stones. Now, here are your titles, Max. Number one, love
¶ Max's lucky guess
radio. Number two, radio love. And number three, love and radio. And that's Lovin as in loving, not love. >> Max: And I mean, it's like as if it couldn't get any harder. I have three titles that are all essentially the same thing in different word. Different arrangements of words. >> Nicholas: Yes. >> Max: So I'm just going to go with the third because I have nothing to go off here. Just complete shot in the dark. >> Nicholas: Okay, you are incorrect. It was just love
radio. Good effort, though. Yeah, that was not an easy one to have guessed, especially when it's in another language and the person speaking, I don't know, he kind of conjured like Liam Neeson in a taken movie, I think, just a little bit how he was like mumbling into it but it. >> Elissa: Sounded very well done though. >> Nicholas: Like the very well produced
that is not like a potshot or anything. Im actually so curious about what this podcast is about, but despite being half syrian, I dont speak the language, so. Oh well, cool artwork though. >> Max: And you did guess it right about the language I guess im just guessing from the. >> Nicholas: Yeah, the characters look like theyre Arabic. >> Max: Thats a cool cover. Nice illustration. >> Nicholas: It is. Kind of reminds me of like a magazine cover from like the eighties
or something. Or like album art. >> Max: But yeah. >> Nicholas: Here's your chance Max. You and everybody else can make up for the mistakes made today. You can all team up, work together or not. You can fight it out. Makes for good podcast I'm sure. So how about everyone covers their eyes, teams up for one more clip?
>> Speaker H: I think one thing that a lot of fears and whatever, I think audiences in general have a hard time wrapping their heads around the idea that, like, the show you think you're watching may not be the show they're making. And the show you think you're watching probably isn't the show that the guy in the next apartment is also watching. It thinks he's watching. >> Kristy: Right.
>> Speaker H: You know, like, I think it's very easy in fan circles to hear a lot of other people on the same page and believe that you all. >> Kristy: Are. >> Speaker H: Interpreting the same way and, you know, like seeing the same thing. Look, we've all heard about, echo chambers on social media and how it's making us all self segregate into bubbles, but these bubbles are usually describing political affiliations, not television fandoms. Yet the principle remains the same.
>> Nicholas: Okay, there was your clip, and here are your three options. Fanfare in defense of fandom and putting the
¶ We pick all one or none
cult in cult following. >> Kristy: Okay, those are good. >> Max: Leaning towards the first. I don't know how you guys are feeling. Like the last. >> Kristy: Yeah. What are the others? >> Nicholas: In defense of fandom and putting the cult in cult following. >> Max: They're all pretty good. >> Kristy: How was fanfare spelled? >> Nicholas: It is f a n, capital fare. One word. >> Kristy: Okay, so that was the first. The first one's just fanfare.
>> Nicholas: Yes. >> Kristy: And then the second one was the long one. And then the third one was the long one. >> Nicholas: Yes. >> Kristy: Okay. >> Elissa: Really cleared it up. >> Kristy: because it sounded like it was fanfare. Poland. I see it. That's what. That's what I was like. Okay, cool. That's the first one. That's crazy. >> Nicholas: That would be the novel. >> Kristy: Yeah. >> Nicholas: Yes.
>> Kristy: What are you guys thinking? >> Nicholas: Bandpass. >> Kristy: Pretty good. >> Kristy: Pretty. >> Kristy: Pretty punny. >> Kristy: Yeah. >> Max: But how do you guys feel about number two? >> Kristy: It's. Hold on. Say number two and number three again. >> Nicholas: Sure. So the second one is in defense of fandom, and the third is putting the cult in cult following. >> Kristy: Okay. I thought that was all one thing.
>> Nicholas: Poland. In defense of fandom, comma, what would be the other option? >> Kristy: The way you said it, there wasn't enough hesitation in between them. >> Nicholas: Okay. Yeah. >> Kristy: And I was like, oh, that's a really long one. That's crazy. I'll. I'll pick that one. Even though I had no idea I was picking all three. >> Nicholas: Well, if you picked all three, you would have gotten some of it, right?
>> Kristy: Yeah. >> Elissa: Partially correct. >> Kristy: Yeah. >> Max: Let's pick all three. >> Kristy: Yeah. We've never tried this before. >> Elissa: We pick all one or none. >> Nicholas: Yeah, it's one or none. >> Kristy: I like fanfare the most. >> Kristy: I also hope that it's fanfare. >> Kristy: Yeah, I hope that it's fanfare. That's. That's what I like. I like that one the most. I hope that they've made it. Fanfare.
>> Nicholas: It's so glass half full. >> Max: Do we have consensus critique? >> Kristy: Sure. >> Kristy: I mean, I have no idea. So I'm fine with going with the majority opinion here. >> Max: Let's do it. >> Nicholas: Okay. >> Max: Madness of the crowd. >> Nicholas: Madness of the crowd is fanfare, which is incorrect. In defense of fandom. >> Kristy: M all good titles. >> Kristy: Well, and it's also a really good cover too.
>> Nicholas: Yeah, I really like that cover. The cassette in front of a shield. You got a nice old car over there. It's cool stuff. >> Kristy: Yeah. >> Elissa: All of the COVID art today has been. >> Nicholas: Yeah, it's been on point. >> Max: It would be better if the cassette was a mini disc, though. >> Kristy: Yeah. >> Max: Really? No, the real thing. >> Kristy: I've never taken it out of here. I wonder what it even looks like.
>> Nicholas: It's going to be like a three inch disk. I think it's. >> Kristy: It's literally just the disc. It's just this. >> Nicholas: Just a three inch disc. >> Elissa: Is it just a small CD? >> Kristy: Like, that's literally just a small CD. It's got the same size hole of, like an actual CD, but it's just here. Wait, it's just thinner. That's crazy. >> Nicholas: I think it's the same size as a GameCube desk, even. >> Kristy: Yeah, I think so too.
>> Nicholas: So you guys were incorrect. So sorry. And a bit about this episode. The clip you just listened to was from season two. Episode two. Putting my theory to the test. Here's our description. In defense of fandom explores the creative output of the SPN
¶ Fans!
family, as supernatural fans call themselves and illuminate the ways that fandom can be an incredibly positive influence in our lives. So I'm assuming it's a supernatural. I haven't seen the show, but I'm assuming it's about supernatural. I didn't realize supernatural had something to do with a car. A shield and a cassette, but. Okay, cool. >> Elissa: They drive a car in the show. >> Kristy: That's the car that's like, that's in the show. It's like their, it's their trusty steed.
>> Nicholas: Okay, see, that makes sense. But no, that's super interesting. And look, if you're going to make a show about fandom and stuff like that, supernatural makes sense because I think that shows been off the air for ten years and people still love it. So cool stuff all around. That being said, we have exhausted our clips for today. Thank you to everyone for playing. Thank you to everyone who got one wrong. My ego feels like
¶ Thank you to everyone who got one wrong this week
just, I feel really good about myself. Guys, you're not. I'm glowing right now. >> Max: I mean, it couldn't have been any, any more rigged. >> Nicholas: Like, I don't. >> Elissa: Okay, Nicholas, why? it's my work. You read it. You read it. >> Nicholas: Because I just, I have a complex that involves telling people that they were right and that kind of kills me inside a little bit. So, Yeah, okay. My ego is still out of control. Thank you for that.
And, yeah, hopefully you guys can keep it up next week with getting them wrong. >> Max: Pod. Pod. Interference. >> Kristy: Yeah. >> Nicholas: Oh, my God. >> Max: Interference. >> Nicholas: Max gets them wrong, it's automatically like, let's launch an investigation into this. The host of the podcast has been doping in secret before recording, like, crazy theories. >> Max: Absolute witch hunt.
>> Nicholas: I'll take a blood test, and you'll have eggs written all over your face. >> Kristy: Like, who's the. Who's the muller of podcasts that we can hire to investigate? >> Max: Yeah, we need the podcast, Mueller. >> Nicholas: So there you have it. thanks for playing. Thanks to everyone for listening, and we'll catch you next week. >> Kristy: So. >> Nicholas: Yeah, bye.
