Greatest Super Bowls with Heather Pink

I just looked at your face. Listen, my I like to not shower or do anything in the morning so I can get right to work, and then I work out whenever I can, and then I shave and I shower at three pm. I mean, I don't mean to give away your secrets, but I don't think right to work is an hour and a half of TikTok videos in the morning. That's work. And I feel like our guest would agree. Okay, Wow, I guess I'm outnumbered here joining us today. I'm so so so, heited. We met

working at the NFL on the Checkdown together. If you are a fan or have seen even if you don't like it, you may not. It may be because of me and not her. Um for me, Well, I was going to bring up the Bubble Machine. Oh, I thought you sorry. I thought you're gonna say, don't like the checkdown. No you're not. No, no, you were gone. You made it and then we perfected it and then we both left.

You know. Um, So our guests say, producer of the Bubble Machine does all of the incredible graphics, fun little Oh look, Megan's lost your mind, all those great things. And the founder of Pink Deer please welcome Heather Pink. Thank you, guys, Thank you for having me. It was way too nice of an introduction, are you kidding? That's what we like, That's what we like to give people. Um. Now, Heather, how long were you at the NFL? Almost eight years? It felt like a decade, truly felt like a decade,

but it Yeah, it was almost eight years. I produced the show NFL Fantasy Live that was on NFL network still is. I produced that for a couple of years before I started to dabble in social and at the time, no one was controlling the NFL Fantasy handles and there was one person working in social there. And I asked my boss to help out, and she said, as long as you can do it on top of producing, I don't really care UM, and that kind of started the train that is this, I guess. I mean there's a

lot of stuff in between the Yeah. Yeah, because so you were the producer on the checkdown and then left to create Pink Deer tell us, I know some of the clients you work with, UM, and if you signed any nd as, you don't have to break them. But you do do really cool stuff with athletes and you're still very much in the sports world since leaving the NFL. I actually just signed a new comedian too. Yeah, some loser and that's a that's an A list A list.

He's he's really great to work with. Yeah, you know, we started the company trying to take like all the lessons we learned from the NFL, which actually, like we learned even though it's from football, it could spread beyond

every single genre or industry. You know. We when we started, we had fitness clients and this and that, but what we really wanted to do is work with influencers on their content strategy, UM their strategy, helping to sort of bridge what they're doing with brands because oftentimes brands have this like old or like stoic version of how campaigns

should be. But also work with corporate clients or small businesses get up to speed, or individuals like CEOs, and from a corporate standpoint, we help you there on board teams or sort of bridge the gap between the upper management and also the social media managers. But oftentimes we always find ourselves in sports some rhyme or reason. But we've been um lucky to not have to be sports. No, yeah, we I feel like me and you can nerd out

on it. But now it feels like what was a few years ago when people were like social that's sort of like supplemental marketing or you know, kind of like if you want it's like a bone. It was like a bonus way to to market yourself or get yourself out there. And now I mean social media is the norm, and that's you know, people aren't waiting for them to

appear on TV or anything. It's just like we have access to these celebrities and athletes and and everyone brands at all times, and so now you know they call on people like like yourself to like, hey, what what do I look like? On every place? I mean, let's let's make that clear. And you too, well, I mean, I am just I'm a baby in this. You've been doing this, and I'm like and now I'm like the things that Megan has asked you, I'm like, all right,

I'm writing this down for my company. Um, but but yeah, no, it's it's it's a really it's awesome that you also have, like, you know, the TV producing skill set and then now social because yeah, there's so many things you pull from that that you're now doing for social that I think, you know, this is really the future the stuff that that we do. Yeah, you know, I never knew that producing TV or something like fantasy football a couple of times a week. I never knew how invaluable that would

be to me in social media. And I didn't realize it then when I started working more into it, and I would meet people that, oh, I you know, I'm a social media manager, like, oh, how do you create the content? Like, oh, well, I get handed, I get handed from the marketing department. I'm like, that's not like my mind blew. And like, when I started working in social more and more, I realized that, like, what the assets that me and my business partner have is something

that like not a lot of people have. They don't know how to create content and then know how to execute it. And creating the content is the battle, you know, And I never knew that. And I mean it's truly because of the NFL producing and grinding and learning actually what is good content. But granted that does not always translate to social like knowing what the differences is super important. Yeah,

I mean, on another well, we'll do another podcast. But I I you know, and I said, that's awesome that you did TV and then social. I really hate a trend that I hate so much. And I tell a lot of people, co workers and whatever when a TV person is hired as a higher up or person leadership position that has never touched social because they think, like, oh, TV is so premium that they're gonna like this is easy for them, And it's just it's infuriating, and I

think it's a huge issue in our field. But you from the sounds of it, and obviously from you know, working with Meg, and I can tell like you knew about that transition. You knew what to pick and choose from your old world into the new world. You know. I was the one. I won't name drop anybody, but let's say on the show like NFL Total Access and it's um what they were called. They're primitive stages of social media, which granted we're not primitive stages of social media.

They're like, let's just throw it to social Let's just throw it up on social and see how this works. Like who's telling you this, Like, let's just throw it up there. I'm like, and you want to just throw you know, like stuff against the wall and see if it breaks? Like I'm confused, Like what do you think is going to happen? So, you know, and there's still is a huge misconception of that, but oftentimes I was the one being like, do you actually know what that

means in that building? You know? And and oftentimes it leads you to other opportunities like I got, but oftentimes you get, you know, butt heads. Well I don't, I don't care. We need to put it up there. I'm like, Okay, you can see how it fails. But I was infuriated by the same exact thing c J that still infuriates me.

C J loves to watch things fail on the Internet that he know, not that I'm saying things that you were like, this is going to fail, and then when it does fail, he's like, look, I mean I get a little petty. For sure, I'm not the smartest personal world. But it's just you know, we social again. Social media is not new. It's like the new normal, I guess with a lot of people are coming to terms with

it or like figuring it out. But like, there are some classic mistakes that are just so obvious that are still being done in a in a lot of these things, um like me like, and sometimes it just truly doesn't matter when when huge corporations or channels or networks do make those mistakes, because you know, these companies are always gonna They've been in prominence for so long. So anyways, that that's very nerdy talk for Oh I loved it. Um okay, So the super Bowl is set Bucks shuffer.

If you would have told me Bucks chiefs at the beginning of the year, I would have gone, you know, like, I mean the season, I just it wouldn't have moved me. And it doesn't move me now. I mean when we when we were doing the Bubble Machine, you made a comment about how very grumbly about the Colts making the Super Bowl, I mean, and they like to be fair. They got pretty close. Thank you, thank you C J C. See, you were like dogging them, but yet at the same

time you still like believed in them. That's what you have to Like you had just the like dis Dane of reality. You're like, well, they're like to wash and to do they still we left to the Jaguars and the opening game, and they did turn out to be the worst team. Um, and so yeah, that's that's a tough that's swallowing a bullet. Well, it did end up kind of sucking our seating for the playoffs, So we learned that you shouldn't do that. I guess that's what

we learned. Um. Okay, I'm just happy to not watch Aaron Rodgers in the Super Bowl the Bears. Okay, I was trying to pick fights with Bears fans all day yesterday. Y'all are so mad at Aaron Rodgers, when who you really need to be mad at is your own organization. First of all, you don't need to tell me this. I am the biggest Pace hater on the pollet Like honestly, I'm like the least loyal Bears man, only in the

sense that I just want them to clean house. Let's just call like Sway the clean get rid of Naggy. I have no faith, no loyalty in it. Like I have no problem dogging on that team because they deserve it. But yeah, I think you want to get rid of everybody but the defense. I like Nick Foles. I have no problem with Nick Foles. I thought that if we actually had Nick Foles in that playoff game against the Eagles, we would have won. Like they just it's really the coaching,

Like the head coach is a moron. I mean, you stick anybody else in there and they'll do a better job. And there's a lot of NFL head coaches that are morons. And that is something that we really need to know. I mean, because I get mad at cults. Fans are always like fire Frank Reich, and I'm like, you don't know who else is out there, and like it's not good, So let the options. It's not Bill Cower coming out

of retirement, Like that's not what's gonna happen. And some of these markets need to get it through their brains that like you're not going to get a premier coaching candidate that's sound and like, yes, you can. You know, the the conversation is obviously happening about like how are there not more black head coaches and how are there not more black head coaches even just being interviewed for

those positions. And it's like because a lot of these people are promoted within and once they have the job, they keep the job because someone else they know is bad at their job and they're like, hey, I'm not gonna fire you at being a bad special teams coordinator. And so then when it comes around when that special teams coordinator is the head coup, Like, it's just a

cycle of eadiness that feeds itself. But I have to argue that one of the best coaches I think that's ever coached is Mike Tomlin, you know, And like, I don't know what your feelings are about Mike Tomlin, but if he wasn't a head coach, I would be thrilled. I think Tony Dungee is an incredible coach. I think um Jim Calledwell is a great coach. I was wait, I was just talking about Tony Dungee the other day and I was thinking about you because we're I was

watching the other game. This is totally off topic watching the game the other week. And I used to love at the NFL watching that pre Sunday night football game with Tony Dungee and who is the other day Harrison the Okay, they've been working together for how many years? And they have zero chemistry. It is like watching dry when they talk, and it was borderline hilarious, Like, dude, you've been working with the same guy for literally five years.

How is there no chemistry? And they both have chemistry with Tariko though, you know, like one of my friends was watching with one of my friends I was watching with you was like, oh, this guy is awful. I was like, well, he's one of the best. Like he does just loves Jesus a lot. He just he loves

Jesus and that's his thing. From a programming standpoint, though, isn't the Sunday night pregame classically when everyone takes their break from watching football day, goes on a walk, picks up dinner, and then it's just like I feel like you tune in midway into the first coordinator, Like that's when you're locked in. So it almost seems strategic that the worst duo pregame duo isn't that it's the best game of the week, you know, So it's some of

the choices this season that was not the game. I mean, it's definitely better than Monday Night. Okay. I bring all of this up because our topic today is greatest super Bowl and I'd like to get a tally of how many super Bowls have been attended within the US three he there, how many super Bowls did you go to? Five? Five? C J you have been to one and I have been to two games three like cities um so too for me. So we have a total of eight super

Bowls between the three of US. I feel like we are a very accomplished and studied people to be talking about this particular topic. Yeah, I felt better about this than playoff games because at the NFL we were like chained to our desk, like every single game except for

the Super Bowl, which you still had to work. There was only one game, one Super Bowl, um that I did not have to work, of the five I went to, which was the best one in my opinion, because of course, you know, but yeah, there there were some things like when we were texting about it, that I realized, So every time you go to a super Bowl. Um, when you're like at the NFL. Afterwards, you get to go to a convention center and eat and then you watch the game over again if you want to stay or whatever.

And whoever I brought, we would watch the halftime performance and oftentimes a lot of this stuff that you know you see at a game you don't like, you don't see it the game, but you see it on camera. And that happened so much so now the Super Bowl is notoriously a bad game because it's you know, it's usually it's very overhyped. Um, there's yeah, I guess we do do it to ourselves. It's teams that don't necessarily

have any rivalry whatsoever. Like part of what made that Brown Steelers game so fun this year, it was like their divisional rivals they've already played twice, they hate each other, like truly. One player on one team almost murdered another player on another team last year. So like there is true like hatred, their um true rivalry, and with these NFC a f C matchups, there's not that. Also, the fans that are at the games at the Super Bowls

are not die hard fans. It's like Canadian businessmen and than me, and then like whoever and Patriots fans that can afford the tickets basically like, oh gosh, we would like meet people at super there, like this is my tent, super Us, Like, fuck you, you shouldn't get to come. Why don't you, like those are our friends, why don't you let less fortunate Patriots fans come. It's just the

same Patriots fans coming over and over again. I did. Oh. I always was a little bitter about and granted I was only there once, but also just hearing from our my friends and former co workers that the people who and they worked hard all season but for some reason don't work real time or in game, and then they're just like hanging out in the press box and really enjoying that moment like they were there for the week just to like kind of like, you know, cross tea

dot eyes, what the job. Let's just say that's why you're there. I don't want to wear a suit and do and cram into my row and just clip from clip pro highlights and stuff. That was a little I was like, well, maybe this could have been better at the hotel and then I'll go there, but yeah, still great, um okay, so we're breaking down ratest super Bowl of all time when I when it's my turn, I'll tell you the limitations I put on my choices. But Heather, as our guest, we would love for you to kick

it off with your number three pick number three. Okay, this is gonna sound crazy, Megan, don't hate me for never um. Okay, So secretly, I am actually also a Titans fan because I grew up watching Eddie George kick every team's ass. And then I don't know if I can say that in the Big ten. I've said I ten times. I hate Ohio States so much like every other person in the Midwest, but I just she went to something. You have I Illinois. You by um Illinois, And if anyone comes at me, I swear to God

I'm a produced friend. We've come, I know, but everyone's like you have. I can't. I can't. It gets me too rolka um. So my number three is actually Super Bowl thirty four between the Rams that Titans, and it was Okay, it's it's part because it was word of when I fell in love with football, but also because like I think, I mean, I think it's one of

the best Super Bowls of all time. And I don't love Kurt Warner, like he was just like to me, but I thought that Titans offense defense, Like the defense was so much fun to watch. It was nasty, but like not like Domickinson nasty, but like you know, I'm gonna go. I mean literally, Kurt Warner got his ass beat.

Like play after play. Do you go and watch the highlights, you'll literally see him like every play in the first half, he just gets his ass feat and then everyone kind of remembers at the very end to remind people that basically the game is tied and towards the end, Kurt warners, you know, throws a touchdown, Titans have to drive towards the end, and then there's the famous stretch. I mean, for me, it doesn't get every time I go to Super Bowl, like people ask me, like, oh, you know,

it's Tampa Bay versus Chiefs. I just root for a good game every time, like that is all I want. Like I do not want to watch another Rams Patriot Super Bowl. I would rather watch paint and dry and sit and drink by myself for three hours. But that's the worst that Rams Patriot one because we all knew exactly what was gonna happen, and then it happened, and

it felt like it was worse than we all expected. Well, and also we all live in l A, and no one in l A cared and so it was so it was like, you guys, that was the super Bowl that I was at professionally, and then didn't go to the game and I flew home. I'm sorry, it's okay. I flew home Sunday morning. They just didn't send me if you were happy to be I flew on Sunday morning, and I was like, I'm glad I did not need to stay an extra day be annoyed by every I mean,

this is going to sound very Champagne. Problems traveling to and from the super Bowl can be complicated and get stuck there. It's it's millions of people compaging onto one city that maybe can't handle it. So this is okay, this is where the super Bowl stories come. I'll say, oh, I love. My first super Bowl was in New York. It was the New York Super Bowl with um Seahawks Broncos, and I was so I was working. I had to like work the whole game because I wasn't full time

and so because I was working. I got on like the NFL buses, and I literally, like they say, like, get the funk out of there as soon as the game's over with. So I got out literally the busses next to the exit. But everyone that you know was there all week, the executives blah blah blah. You know, if you're in New York, the game was out in Jersey.

So everyone piled into the train and I was seeing pictures from my friends of it being all to wall and then on top of that, it it literally I think it's snow ten inches within hours of the game. They've done hours, so everyone not only stuck in New York and or like everyone was like three hour delay all day, Like it is nasty. That's a difficult stadium to get to and from when it's not the Super Bowl. Um, okay, so Heather, your your number three pick was actually my

number two picks, so I do have some info. The final score ended up being twenty three sixteen with the Rams winning. The Rams were up sixteen nothing at one point and the Titans came back at that time. It was the largest Super Bowl deficit to like overcome, even though they didn't end up winning, and the performers. Faith Hill performed the national anthem and then the half to I Love faith Till Anytime You Tim McGraw, Faith Hill,

Let's yeah. The halftime show was Phil Collins, Christina Aguilera, Enrique Glass, Tony Braxton, Edward James almost almost what's his name? Almost? Yeah, he was. I don't know if this is a Phil Collins, This is the wild Phil Collins, Christina Aguilera, and and regulates just Tony brows and but it's very James almost as sounds like a joke. It's like when we went to see that Impressions show in Vegas and it was Elvi. It was Michael Jackson, Elvis and Marilyn Monroe and then

Janice chopping. How is Janice Joplin here? Um? So that's the vibe. But yeah, this was a great It was also similar to you, Heather. It was like the first Super Bowl as a kid that I wasn't just like at my parents friends party, Like I was into the game. I mean I was playing at the time, but I like cared about it. And I remember my one detail from it was that they kept talking about Kirk Warners like he worked in a grocery store, like, and that's

what I love. And you know, people joke about like the Super Bowl bingo card, what the announcers talking about. I feel like that was brought up fifty times. Um, this guy used to work in a grocery store and then they continue to do that through his career and it's like, no, he's been a quarterback for a while, but um, but yeah, that was that's my memory. Steve McNair rest in peace truly. Uh. The has been called

one yard shore the tackle it's referenced in Castaway. Um if you remember at the very end, Yeah, he's been gone so long and she's like, we have a football team and they almost won the Super Bowl. Like that's how long. Um. These tidbits are fire. Well the I just remember the Castaway one from my dumb little dome. There is a podcast. I'll look it up so I can tell you guys, the Steve McNair podcast. That is a phenomen It is so good and it is they need to reopen the case. He I am a firm

believer that he was not murdered by his mistress. Um, I think something else was happening. There's Nash's former Nashville. Um, p D that believes that Steve McNair's family does not believe he was killed by the shadus reopen up they like when they first had the case, I think they closed it with I mean that podcast I remember saying they closed the case within like seventy two hours, which is like record for like any murder, but for Steve

McNair's like, m okay, let's just mask the shadiness even more. Yeah. So, um, he's very much missed. I think he would be such an incredible voice in leader for today's players and everything. I think he would just be important to hear from. In terms of black quarterbacks in the Super Bowl, Donovan

mcnably before I don't know. I mean this was two thousands, This is before that, This was before, this was before right before vic to right yeahh so yeah, I have to do some checking, but yeah, it seems like maybe one of the earlier black quarterbacks in Super Bowl. I mean, yes, Steve McNair's a legend. Yeah, pretty boring game until the second. That's what it always feels like. And that's why we

should ban our friends saying this is over. I mean, all the ones we're probably gonna mention it's not over. Just wait. So you get to my number two Super Bowl pick um Hall of famers from that game for the Rams, Isaac, Bruce Marshall, Falk, Orlando Pace, and Kurt Warner. For the Titans, Mike and George Munchuk and Bruce Matthews. It says current future Hall of Famers. They don't have George's in there. But I find that surprising. I find it, I guess maybe not Steve McNair um. Okay, so obviously

an incredible first pick by Heather. It was on CJ and my list as well. CJ, you want me to go, there, you go, and there's going to be per per usual, but it's I was I'm physically not going to be able to pick one where it's the Patriots winning. So I have no Patriot Victoria's Super Bowls. It's just I'm I'm not the reward Listen. I make the rules of what the greatest is. It's our podcast, and they make me fucking furious and sad. So they're not on my list.

And then I know there's ones from like back in the Joe Nameth and and it's just like I don't I don't know the context fully, so I did do relatively recent ones. But I understand that Terry Bradshaw is amazing. I understand all these things, but I didn't see it, so it's hard for me to like no. So with all that said, my number three is super Bowl fifty two and that is Eagles Patriots. That was the one I got to go to because CJ was working. Yeah, so Nick Foles, just a lot of amazing storylines. We

have a backup quarterback. The Eagles were such a long shot. It felt like like going into that game, it was like they're happy to be here. Like that was the vibe in Minneapolis. And I'd also like to be on record of saying, Minneapolis, so many lovely people, fun food you. I hope you never host a Super Bowl again. It's so fucking cold. It's snowed every It was just it's too cold. Okay, it's not okay with enough with the cold weather cities. And know Indianapolis had one, but I

don't consider a super super cold. It was warm. The Indianapolis hosted one. That's the possibility. Minnesota in February should not host an event. And that's just common sound kissing me off. I walked out of the like direct TV party and like Jayla was performing the night before the super Bowl and it was like negative six outside. My dad, who came with me, keeping me up from where I was,

He's like, man, it's fucking cold outside. And literally my thighs actually took an hour to thought out, Oh gosh, oh it's it was freezing and it's your dad's from Chicago. It's not even like he flew into Miami, like that's how we all fell to um but a lovely job. Nonetheless, Well, I will say the one upside about that Super Bowl one it's the only one I've ever been to. But I love a good mall, and this is the biggest mall. Yeah for on Yeah, I mean it's the biggest, the

Mall of America. I liked having to go there, to shuttle there every every day. No, not downtown. It's like, no, the Mall of America isn't a suburb. No, thank you. I don't need to be in a suburb for the super Bowl. Let's bullshit. Um, you know, give me some It's like when the Real Housewives are poor, It's like this is not what I want, Okay, I want like some prestige happening. Uh so I had this one as my number three. I was on it. It was great.

It was a very entertaining game, like high scoring. The final score ended up being forty three. That's very high for a Super Bowl. Take the under honestly if you're betting. And there were fun storylines. There was a trick play. Brady had a failed Hail Mary at the end, like it came down to the last second and that so rarely happens. And in the stadium there was just absolute joy, like you were a Patriots fan or you were everyone else, and everyone else was rooting for the Eagles, and so

there was energy in there. Like my dad was wearing a Colt jersey, dying for the Eagles, you know, like honestly, like going so over the stop for them. So it's like that's how everybody felt like. There was a woman from Orange is the New Black City in front of us in Giant Scare. She's rooting for the Eagles. That's a division rival, Like we just all wanted to see something different and then we got it. And and the

Nick Foles very very Cinderella story. It had like a March madness vibe to it almost and um yeah, I just I think it was a very entertaining game, and I feel like people at home watching it agree the only thing that sucked the air out of the stadium was just in timber legs half yes, yes, wow. So I never revisited it and and yeah, I felt like it was bad in person, but I was like it was bad. But the national anthem was pink, and I

mean she killed it. Of course she murdered it. So I forgot this in the first one we were discussing, which was the year two thousand. Cost for a thirty second commercial and that Super Bowl was one point nine million. I'll go back to it cost for a thirty second commercial in five million, So there you go. That's that's inflation there. And um yeah, Minnesota, thank you, and I will never be back in the winter. Speaking of the cost, I can't remember. I think it's a beer company who

is forgoing making like an entertaining commercial. It's Budweiser. You know, I've seen I've seen lots of jokes about how the Bucks and the Chiefs we've kind of you know, they know about Budweiser at this point, but they're doing it to vaccine awareness, which I'm interested in seeing what that is. But that that's cool and nice on the surface. We'll see what it turns out to be. The estimated is

doing it. That'd be interesting. Estimated viewership for eighteen Super Bowl was a hundred and three point four million in people. That's a lot. That's a lot of people. Um. Okay, so that's my number three pick CJ. You go ahead, all right. Well, I gotta admit my super Bowl history is pretty bad, so I feel like there will be some overlaps, so I do apologize in advance if I

pick some that you guys have chosen. So my number three is gonna be Super Bowl forty two Giants Patriots the first one, just because yeah, Patriots going into into that last game undefeated again people, this is the Tree catch number three. This is my number three. Um, And yeah, I think it was. It's more just on a personal stance of I wasn't paying attention to that much like

it was. I came in, like to the playoffs, that's when I started watching, and and then the narrative was Patriots got this, they were comparing with the Dolphins or whatever. And Eli too, I think had a lot of criticism not as good as his brother, and yeah, they were. They were complete underdogs. I think they were ten and six going to the game and they had to win like six games in a row to and and actually the Giants and Patriots played Week sixteen, I guess it

was Week seventeen. They played the final regular season game and the Giants party in Coughlin, played all the starters and they narrowly lost. But you have to imagine now looking back, it's like, oh, they for sure learned some things going in. Yeah, everyone was saying like, oh, like when Brady was facing Breeze, like, oh, you know, breezes to and No, I'm like, that doesn't mean ship in the playoffs, like you know, like if anything, that makes me think that Brady's for sure going to win, if

you're gonna keep talking about it, I was. I was debating about this because I went back and forth between both Giants Patriots super Bowls, just because I actually liked the other one a little bit more. But then I was like the Tyreek catch like something that's super iconic. But I just always felt like you no matter who, like Odell Beckham Jr. Was the best wide receiver Eli Manning had ever had every single other wide receiver, including every single one that was in both Super Bowls. Jim Os,

They're just Plexico, and yet he still made it work. Plexico. I have anybody that yes, very soft spot for Plexico. Listen, if you shoot yourself in your own leg, we feel bad. I have fan I have if you shoot yourself in your own leg and then you go on celebrity wife swap, I'm a fan for life. You can see why we're attracted to certain players is because of their post reality show careers. I mean speak of this upcoming super Bowl.

Every time Chasing Pierre Paul does anything. I'm like how he blew his hand off with a firework, and I think he only end he didn't blow his hand off it he ended up like sort of mangling some fingers, but a true success story to just from fire to the super Bowl. I think JPP was in the Super Bowl against Brady the second time they played. Yes as a giant. Okay, I feel like I don't. I don't want to go into great depths on your third pick because I know that it will be coming up later.

But thank you for submitting your pick. What are you talking? Well, I'm just saying, that's that's what you're doing now. Yeah, I don't want to talk about it right now because we're going to talk about it later. Oh okay, I thought you were just like, thank you for I thought you were just like thanking me for doing homework. No, I think you did a great job. I just don't want to go into great detail or else I'm gonna have nothing else to talk for sure. Okay, so let's

take a quick break and then we'll be right back. Okay, and we are back. What he's really freaking laughing at it? I think happy was that interesting. I just didn't know if we were like thanking each other for each other's picks, like very formally after Okay, Well, I mean different, like we're like forty five deep on this thing, and that was new and it was it was fun. Listen, baby. Part of what keeps Love cranking is doing new stuff fresh podcast techniques. Yeah, that's how we keep it fresh

in the bedroom. We keep it fresh on the podcast. Um, okay, how they give us your number two pick. I don't know if this is controversial. I think partially it is. And I struggled with this. One was Super Bowl fifty one Patriots first Falcons like, I'm so sorry Falcons fans. I know. I think mostly because I went with my sister and it was one of my favorite Super Bowls and we watched Lady Gaga, but before Lady Gaga Ga, I was just like, hey, should we just leave after

Lady Gaga is done? And because the Patriots were down so much, it was not the on paper, not a good game, no, like, oh lord, I mean if you're a Patriots fan, for sure. I mean, and also greatest comeback, greatest Super Bowl comeback, and I believe it is that it is that, like you know, but my my sister said that, I said, Tom Brady is never going to be done, like he is going to make it to

the last second, which is exactly what he did. I think in this game, Julio Owns and Edelman had ridiculous catches like the bonkers, like and I think that's what I love about some of these games, like some of the best of the best is that you've seen catches that you truly don't you've never seen before, Like there are like a once in a season type of catches,

and we saw that in this game. This was number one for me and I'm gonna say this to you, go just about patriot cause we do a lot of Patriots hate, and we do a lot of Tom Brady hating. But like again, like last night rarely solidifies it for me. One of the greatest athletes like and as a huge in this room, see a lot of Jordan things, but

like if he wins it, uh, like I won't. I won't debate people if they say Tom Brady is better than Michael Jordan's it's it's really it's like seven super Bowls with ten visits, and in this game, especially like just the when people talk about like talent skill, like

clock utilization every single second. I mean, sure he needs to be like credit taken away for for wasting a lot of quarters, but like that was the most masterful thing I've ever seen that come back, and a lot of I think the analysis after was like how did the Falcons let this happen? There's that image of Arthur blank like down on the sideline celebrating, so some some blame does go on. I mean there was a collapse. They had a collapse in the Super Bowl, which is

almost unforgivable. Dwit Freey was on that team, so it's like it's sad. Um. Sorry, but no, why why I hate that game is because it was it felt very representative of the election to me. For for like, whether that makes sense or not, I just was like, oh, Hillary is the favorite, she's gonna win. The matchup is clear. And then you know, you watch it fall apart and you're like, oh, okay, that didn't happen. And then we see the Falcons beating this like known Trump supporter, and

it felt good. And so then when it started to fall apart, a lot of election night memories came flooding back. I also was watching that Super Bowl at the same place I watched the sten election results come in, and I told this couple who has now since broken up, sadly, I told them, I will never come to your house ever again. I hate it here and I would burn it to the ground if I could. No, I can't. I can't argue with that. Um, A little bit seems personal,

but not. I agree. It was a little bit like and this is what makes Tom Brady so good is that I think he does embrace the villain role. But yeah, it's just as like I was as a sportsman. I'm happy that I got to witness that, even though I was rooting for the Falcons. I'm happy God to witness in person. I'm happy for you too. I don't I don't hate it because here's the thing is. I mean, I know you guys are Lakers fans. I'm not a huge Lebron fan pers only, but also a lifelong Charago

Bulls fan. A Charago Bulls fan that is really a Struggle Bulls fan. Will understand my disdain for him, but I respect how amazing he is. And for Tom, I don't like him, I don't like necessarily dislike him. First of all, kudos to him for getting Giselle as a wife, like I mean, anyone that like. But the fact that he was able to come in this season on a new team convinced Gronk to to stop doing reality TV show like that mass singer and come back to playing football.

And like the Buccaneers were kind of like an okay team, Like they had really good talent on defense, a little bit here and there. It's so rare two for a first year sort of team like that to bring it all together and to make it as far as he did. Like c J, I second that because I think that what he did this year solidifies it a little bit, even more so than some of the years past for him. Like, even if he doesn't win, I think that he did

this season is enough. He's the got. I just don't like, can I can I survey you guys, because I mean everyone's always like, yeah, Brady over Jordan or whatever. But that's like not the debate in my head or the question like to me. I mean everyone's like, you know, in terms of was it Belichick system or is Tom Brady that good to either of you guys? Does this answer that question at all? Or was it completely team effort? Both times? And like Bruce arians is a great coach.

I think I saw people being like, well, this discredits Bellichick. It's like, I don't think that at all. I think Bill Belichick is Again I don't like him, but I think he's an incredible coach, and I think he actually is a football genius. And I mean that because he can look at the rules and go, how do I play within those rules without breaking them? And that is a unique mind. I think it was both of them. Yeah, I think you know, you can only set up a

system for success. Then I think that it really took both of them to, you know, to to be as legendary. I think that just Tom Brady's magic is different. You know, Tom Brady can can make a James White be a Super Bowl m v P. Like in what world do we look like? At that time when that happened, I was like, what the fuck is happening? Yeah, like Brady did all the work or you know, And I thought that was the NFL's way of saying, fuck you, you're not getting the MVP Brady, because it was mostly Brady

that did the work. I think it was two passing touchdowns and a running touchdown for James White, I can't remember, but like the fact that he can make that guy a super Bowl MVP because Brady did that, Like that to me, Belichick awesome, coach, revolutionary, and both of both people revolutionary. I just think that Brady's magic is different because he just can make normal people look amazing. Yeah, and that and that's a Jordan quality as well to

every great player quality. Iggy with the Warriors at one year Finals MVP. It's like, you know, that was that team. But I think I do think Belichick can take a loser and make them good too, Like I think he has that they both have whatever that like this year special stuff is. Well, that's true. That's what happens when you have Cam Newton as a quarterback. So you need to give him a break. I love I love Cam.

We love Cam over here. Okay, so my my number one of my number two have already been discussed, so I have decided to pick a different number two, if that's okay with everybody. And I think you're going to find it shocking that this was not originally on my list and this is Super Bowl. What's x l I it was a cold So why is this not number one? Megan? Shame because it's truly it's it's not number one because it wasn't a great game, like it was horrible. It was.

It was horrible ring rain Um started that. Okay, well that's a matter of perspective. Um. Yeah, it started off with a like kick off return for a touchdown, And I guess maybe that that's the most exciting thing that it almost happened. And then and it also set up like oh ship, the cults are in trouble, and then they won, So I guess there was like a little bait and switch that happened, first black coach to win

a Super Bowl and was going against love Smith. It was the first time a black coach had been in the Super Bowl. And we have two of them and they were very good friends. And I think that that that was extremely moving and beautiful to see first super Bowl, that Peyton one, first one that he went to. So there's a lot of Hall of famers in that game, not a lot from the Bears side, but a lot

from the cult side. When it's all said and done, and I'm very happy they won, and it goes down as one of the greatest and most drunk days of my life. I was thrown out of it was also one of the drunkest days of my life. And how horrible the Bears played. I mean, but here's the thing is, that's like we got that far with Rex Grossman, like vombit grows okay, like you know, I mean, it just can serve like how good a defense can really get you, but also a defense only a defense can only get

you so far. So Reggie Wayne was open on a fifty three yard touchdown reception, and so the Bears defense is incredible, has always been incredible, but something at the bears covers the cover to scheme, like the cultures had too many weapons for that too, totally shut them down. I mean they were like, to be honest with you, I think Peyton Manning could like ask that Dominic Rhodes with the m v P Dominic Rhodes. Yeah, I mean yeah.

All three super Bowls that Peyton Manning's has been in, he's played like ass Like I think he's been in FO two of the Broncoses, two with the Colts, I'm not no, I think yeah, he lost one with the Broncos and one one thet Yeah, he was seeing the Broncos because that was the one that Seahawks West and it was bad. That was That's actually probably the worst super Bowl I've ever seen. Uh no, Rams Rams Patriots as the worst super Bowl I've ever seen. That is second.

But also it was my that was my first super Bowl, so like as horrible. And I was in the press box right above the end zone where they safetied Peyton Manning, and I was like, oh, this is great. And I just met Hugh Jackman, who are a huge fan of so I was like on cloud nine. Yeah, and like everyone's like, oh, that super Bowl is kind of shitty. I was like, yeah, I don't like care. I went and I got to like hang out with Hugh Jackman and Jennifer Gardner like I'm I'm chilling. I don't care

like you're like and Peyton Manning lost. So like I was, yeah, that was a bad one though. I was. I was bartending and the bar empty, like people were like, we're good. I mean, that's bad for a bar to empty out on the Super Bowl Sunday. Oh boy, um okay, CJ, what's your number two? Um? Well, fun fact that Bears Colts Super Bowl was when I was visiting Chicago and deciding whether I wanted to move there or not, and

I did. It was for and then yeah, so my number two was said as well, which has gonna happen on this stuff. So I mean, again I admitted, I don't know. I just don't have the great memory for a lot of Superls. The two fifteen one, it was, I mean, Roman numerals are yeah x l I X, so this would have been it was it was Seahawks Patriots. And this is just because the legendary again it came down to the last play. Yeah it was. It should have ran it. Um, they should have handed off to Marshawn,

and as was my number one. Okay, nice, okay, because I was just picking it based on this play because I actually was very very high in a hotel room in Denver and I slept. I fell asleep from eating too much and woke up in my hotel room for this last play and it was like, yo, yeah, they're about to win it. Hand it off to Marshawn and then they threw it and who intercepted it? Malcolm Butler. Malcolm butl and that for me, working in memes and sports, this was like pre NBA Twitter what it is today.

This was like the Warriors blew a three one lea, like it was always handed off to mars Shawn. Malcolm Butler inter said, like this was like sports Twitter at its peak back then. Um. And so that that's why I will say it's one of my favorite Super Bowl memories. Yeah,

I mean I chose it as my number one. I mean, yes, there's personal reasons, but for me, I felt like, you know, any game that comes down to the last play and and I I just loved the games where it comes down to that play and it's so controversial, so like you just want to keep talking about it. You're like, what the funk was he thinking? Why was it Marshall?

You know? And like, as I was watching the highlights last night, and one of the highlights literally in the beginning of the highlight was Marshawn eating skittles, and I just I, you know, Marshawn what will go down in history as one of the coolest players to ever play football.

But I thought that Seahawks team, I felt like, for me, if I had one of these days, you guys don't have to do a podcast of like truly greatest like football teams of the nineties of the two thousands, that to me was one of the greatest teams to like full greatest teams to ever play football. I felt like

that was one of them, and they blew it. Yeah, And I think that's why it's not one of my favorites is because it was like so heartbreaking and I like wanted Marshawn to like override the play, you know, like just so much. Like even yesterday, I'm like, why can't Aaron Rodgers just tell you know and be like, no, bitch, We're not doing that. Someone asked someone as like we

were talking about on this call. I got on today and there I got in and they were talking about Aaron Rodgers, and um, I was like, yeah, I mean people are gonna be talking about that. Like but and personally, I felt like he always just ran the team, Like why don't you just run up and say I'm not I'm not kicking it on fourth and down, like like fourth down, this is this is it. You can't give

the ball back to Brady with two minutes left. But I would say that, Um, I know, you guys already had greatest half time performances, but I felt like Katy Perry's halftime performance in the Super Bowl was the greatest next to Beyonce's with Desny's child. Um, I walked into the game. This was the one super Bowl I didn't

have to work. So my dad and I go into the tailgate and we got shammammerd and I managed to sneak a beer or two into the game and I'm in like my nice suit, which was hysterical, and um, I don't even remember part of the first half because I was so drunk. And also one of my friends, um Adam Rank he had actually had the seat next to me too, So it was just like a party. And then when Katy Perry come on, so it was controversial when you were there that it was like super

foggy and all that stuff. Like I walked outside in Phoenix that day anything, so everyone's like, oh, the thing isn't going to open up. And apparently Katy Perry's halftime performance was going to involve it. And then as soon as she sank firework, no one, no one knew that it had moved, and everyone looked up. It was like, oh my god. And it was just that to me was part of the like craziness of it. And so when we're on that final drive of that game, and

I think it was was a curse. Who had that catch? The crazy clown catch or whatever? Seahawks are driving right, it's the final class couple plays of the game and there's this crazy catch that's it's tipped, it's this and that, and it gets them in position. And basically between that play and the play at the very end in the stadium, no one knew who won. Literally no one knew who one like we were. I was like, do you guys

know what happened? Everyone's like no, no, no, Like I wasn't at the side with the jumbo tron, so no one knew because because the phone was that bad. No, because it's like because it happened so quickly. It happened so quickly, and then all of a sudden, it's just like, wait, who won? And then I'll we see like the and Bettie pop out. I was like, oh, I think that's blue.

I had that experience with Paul George breaking his leg and I don't know, and I don't know if this is the stadium like a stadium thing, but cellphone reception was bad and when it took everyone walking out to the parking lot for it to pop up on their phone. But I sort of know that feeling, and that's like, again, the kind of the con of being there is you don't get those replays. You don't get like, yeah, you kind of just like everyone's left shark. Shark is a

cultural touchstone. And I had a thousand people text me and I walked out of the stadium and my saidsters like, oh, left Shark. I'm like, what the fund No one knew left Shark in the stadium because you needed, like you needed the shot of the left shark just totally going rogue. I love Left Shark, and this is why I stopped going to the All Star Games, because I go for All Star weekend and then I started coming back one.

It's a lot of times your birthday, but because I like watching the game, and you can't really watch the games when you're in those press boxes. But I'm still very grateful that we've we've gotten to go to so much stuff like that. Okay, let's take one last break and then we'll be back with our number one picks. Okay, we're back. Sorry, it's gotten a little. This is great. I feel like we're sharing kind of like what it's like to be at these places. Yeah, I hope this

is relatable content, guys. So now we will go around and do our number one. I don't have a number one. You don't, okay, So and we're running along, so let's just skip mine. Okay, Well, my number one is the catch like the David Tyree Giants over the Patriots, and yeah, that game was. The Patriots going into it were already deemed the greatest team of all time. They were trying

to match the seventy two Dolphins. Um the Giants one road games in Tampa Dallas and Green Bay to be there, they had to go on the road for the entirety of the playoffs. It was the first time an NFC team had ever done that. And it was like, the Patriots are winning. I mean, it's not that different than that Eagles one that I brought up earlier. It's like, the Patriots are in it. The Patriots are winning, especially against this wild card Giants team that was very, very

unproven at that point. It wasn't even just Eli Manning wasn't as good as his brothers. He wasn't as good as the rest of his draft class. Philip Rivers had better SATs than him. Like, yeah, he that that two thousand four packed class. He just hadn't really proven himself in any way. I don't really think he has since. That's what's interesting. I mean, he's maybe the worst quarterback to win two super Bowls. Maybe I'm putting something, don't

you know, really good? I think he was really good for just to short him on a time and then his expiration date just expired, but no one knew about it, you know, I thought he was very like, you don't win a super Bowl with a bad quarterback. I'm sorry, but I thought he was really good, but just for that really short amount of time, and then they just made him play quarterback just for namesake. This was another game that was not good until not even the second

half the fourth quarter. There were twenty one points scored in the fourth quarter, the Giants scoring fourteen of them, and so it was pretty much a snooze until then. The Patriots were favored by twelve, which seems pretty wild. Halftime show was Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. Cost of a thirty second commercial for this Super Bowl with two point seven million and at the time it has been broken since. At the time that was the most viewed super Bowl of all time with nineties seven point five

million viewers. And the Super Bowl was in two thousand and eight. Um, my senior of college, was this right before the financial says probably, Um, so kind of feels like yeah, because it was the beginning of two thousand and eight. It really that Super Bowl. I like remember watching it in my like college apartment. Like, when I think back to two thousand and eight, that Super Bowl,

I'm like, oh, that was a much simpler time. Um. We are generation had not experienced what we have experienced now, and we've we've seen too much in the last twelve years. But um, yeah, February of oh eight, that was nice. Yeah, I thought that was for me. I couldn't decide between those two Patriots games. I actually rewatched longer highlights of the other Patriots Giants game, mostly because of the people that were in that one. Um. I was that was

the that was the one in Indianapolis. Um, and that was an amazing game. It really Ron her I mean Ronet Hernandez, like the everything that happened to him. He was awesome when he playing and when you know, when he was locked in, you know, into the game, and I think who else was? I mean, there were so many people in that game. It was a fun It was a very very fun game. Madonna performed at the halftime.

I think this one edges it out for me, just because it was like it felt truly David versus Goliath, Like it was like, oh, this is the best team ever, and this is like a team with a man with a red face who screams all the time. Like they just seemed kind of like we and we didn't know any of them, Like I still don't really even know David Tybrey, But that catch like that Catches just burned in my memory and them winning it felt like a true release. But you're right, that other game was equally,

if not better. You know, it's hard to pick. I mean it's hard to pick the greatest, right, you know, you we only have fifty issues from But at the same time, like what is great? You know? For me? I want to close game at the end. I mean, of course I want a close game everything all time, going back and forth, back and forth, but you don't get to have that. But sometimes things like the catch outweigh it's just being a close game the entire time, right,

Like what's great? Because like the honestly, like watching that Falcons Patriots game, I was like, okay, can someone else score? Like you just make it close, you know, and that's tough. But I think what was great was the comeback because that was never been done and that's what made it great. But like that game, That's why I was watching how it did that Patriots Giants game, Like, man, this was a really good game. Like maybe this one has to be up there. I don't know, Well, it's your point.

Last year was really close, but it might be as memorable as the catch or you know a lot of these comebacks, but like that was a solid game, like from start to finish, and I hope yeah, I mean whatever my homes ends up doing, yeah, it just it just like in ways. Yeah, we're we're like trying to figure out what makes these the greatest, but like solid game last year, and I do all a game, no one remembers anything that happened outside of the Chiefs winning.

We'll just do greatest solid games. Well, And I guess what we've learned too, is that that's the most you can hope for in a Super Bowl Like this is not the matchup that I wanted to see coming up. Will it be exciting to see the true like passing of the guard? Is that what the phrases passing? I don't know, you know, old versus young. What I remembered is the other super Bowl that Peyton was in was against the Panthers in Super Bowl fifty and that was

one of the worst super Bowls ever. Well, was he a factor? Oh that's when like the it was just the Broncos defense that won it. Yes, yeah, that's the one he won with the Broncos. And you're like that was boring as hell? Remember I hope you guys did like a worse like I hope when you guys are watching this, you guys were evaluating the worst super Bowls

of all time. I said they had to live through that one to a person, and even and I was so excited, like in the office, everyone's like, oh, cold Play is gonna do halftime and then they and everyone's like, really cold Play, and then they're like, just kidding, just kidding, it's gonna be Beyonce too, and like cool Beyonce in person, because it was a horrible stadium. It was a horrible And then you're watching this crap game. I'm just like, oh, can we just this this? Like Bruno? What was the

good Bruno? The Bruno one with good Bruno was in New York for Seahawks. Um, Seahawks Broncos. Okay, they're both good to me, but I'm always trying to decipher or distinguish the two. So I forgot this um second Giants Patriots game that we're talking about, the one that was Indianapolis. I said it was Madonna. It was also L M F A O M I A. Nicki Minaj and C. Low Green, And I guess I've forgotten. I remember l M f AO because I was like that, but everybody else I M I A. I didn't even realize m

I I was there. I feel there was some consciou is he there about her performance? Maybe I don't know if like she had been like banned from the States at the time. But oh right, okay, that would um when he just got real, that would sadly make sense. I had what was your number one? Again? Remind my number one was Seahawks Patriots? Okay, super Bowl? Any any honorable mentions from you? Any games you feel like we missed? No,

I both Patriots Giants. Um. I thought that was you know, goes down as the one of the greatest I think super Bowl rivalries of all time. But between that, um Egos Patriots, those were kind of my solid six and I didn't Honestly, I'd have to say this, after those super bowls that we talked about, excuse me. With the exception of the Bears, Colts ones, I don't really think that they're super bowls that are even close to those now, except for like these oldies that we feel we can't Yeah,

I feel bad we can't really speak to those. Well, there's I mean, I can tell you the number one on this NFL rankings, and I hate to sound like a loser. It's it's in black and white. And I was like, sir, I don't know this. Um so this is super Bowl eight. This is what they have as number one. Steelers thirty five, Cowboys thirty one. I just remember the party was that and yeah, it wasn't very

good this super Bowl eight. So it had to be what nineteen six Bradshaw was m v P. There was a bad drop by Smith pass interference call, so there was some special teams fumble. So yeah, listen if you watched that our list, yeah, let us we said it. We said it super Bowl eight. Well, there was that Steelers one, right, that Steelers super Bowl. I think that's this one. Isn't the more recent one where Harrison James Harrison Hinds word, Yeah, two thousand five. That's that's definitely

not going to be on my list. I definitely don't like rooting for Ben Roll this worker though, so I couldn't root for the Steelers if there was a gut into my head. I always want to go on the team, I mean team James Conner. Yea, um, okay, there where can our listeners find you or find your work? Even we have my Instagram Heather Pink seven. Most of my stuff is on Pink deer Um LLC. And that's d E A R D E A R yes um, even though my logo is like a deer but that's the

play on the works, right Yeah. But um, yeah, you know we don't. I gotta say, like, we don't post a time even though we're like we're in social media, like we're so focused on making sure one's okay, like by the end of the day sometimes like yeah, I'm good, like all everyone else is happy, you know, But no, like the but then if you were to the collection of all your clients like that, we're not the publishers.

This is what you gotta just like I gotta get through to people, which I'm sure you did in the beginning, is like no, we're not the destination. We're making everyone else the destination totally. You know. I think if anybody has social media, you know, big questions or need to figure out what they're doing, or you know, if they're

in a stalemate or all those things. You know, that's what my thing is like always with even with medical like go seek the professional, Like, no matter what you want in your life or what you're looking for, like, seek the real professional that has real credentials out there and hire that person, you know, And I think for me, that's what we've always been. But like, if you're gonna pay a doctor to tell you what's wrong, like, are you not paying somebody else to tell you what's wrong

with your social media? If you make it your life or your business and you're spending X amount of hours a day on it? Like wow, you are You are our first guests to leave us with valuable advice, truly, and we've done I guess I'm not a comedian, that's yeah. You know, you're an actual person who has real things to say, and that's why sometimes valuable things come out

of it. So thank you for I think that's a great I mean, I would hear comedians make that joke when Trump was running of like people are like, he's from the what who fun him? He's gone? See if I make a joke like that, it doesn't kind of like a joke. It makes me selling like an asshole, So I just don't make it. I wish I hadn't even started to describe a joke that's not even relevant anymore. I'm an asshole, okay, c J. Where can um? We find you at CD and everything okay, and I'm at

Megan Gaily and gosh Heather. Thank you so much for doing this, Thank you for being the greatest mind behind the bubble machine. And if it ever comes too much fun, if it ever comes back ahead, we'll be there. I promise. We're just busy bitches, you know, busy bitches. So all right, thank you guys. We'll see you next week. By the

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