Greatest Meltdowns with Joe Kilgallon

drunk lady voice even when I'm sober. Well, guess that we have is maybe not the best person to be, Like, yeah, completely sober all the time and very well behaved. You're supposed to give guests nice intros. One of our dearest friends, No, I was going to. I was just prefacing, you know, some history here, long overdue having him on the pod. I'm sure he's going to have some thoughts about that. Probably a sixth sports podcast of the day, my former roommate.

I mean, gosh, and just like TikTok famous too, just guy, he is killing a TikTok YouTube, great social media presence. Comedian we know and love and came up with Joe kill Gallen. Thank you. I love you both. So it's great to be podcasting with you. Easily my favorite couple in the world really, I mean besides myself and my wife. Like, you've had a great tweet today where you're like, this is my husband whenever I like clap back at a heckler and I'm like, damn, that's cute. Yeah, well it

was like kind of made it. I don't know if CJS no I have. I've been in the crime like hell, yes, getting yelled at by my wife. I thought you're gonna be like get on, you know, like pro woman, but you're just like fortuity me freaking out. Um, Joe, congrats on the no hitter. Yes, that was mostly my doing. I actually saw no hitter Jake Garrietta through one against the Dodgers in l A. I was there. It was amazing. And then today I just watched in my garage like

a Chicago scumbag. But that's where I almost think sitting in your garage is the perfect place to watch a Cubs no hitter. For the fans at home who don't know Joe, there is no bigger Cubs fan, it's um, it's borderline mentally ill. The thing is they they are good and they did win recently, so it's not like a Brown's mental illness. It is like a kind of successful mental illness. But yeah, I mean just even looking at you right now with your setup, you you look

like a Cub's cartoon character. I don't know. It is getting to the point where I'm I'm hoping something's got to give because it affects my mood. And I can't be a father of two and have like a Cub's loss make me be a bad dad. I think you can in Chicago. Yeah, you're probably right. So we're recording this on Sunday, first day of the NFL season, and I was getting really upset about, you know, something the Colts did. And c J was like, oh my god,

I forgot that. This is what happens to you. Like with the Pacers, I like love them, but there's constantly it's like, Okay, then there's another game in two days. Like it's just like a quicker turnaround, so you don't have to be sad for as long. And I also don't think of you know, like when you look at the NBA. It's like, I don't think the Pacers are

gonna win, and we look at the NFL. I don't really think the Cults are gonna win either, but it's like better chances, so I get more invested in Psychotic I get it, and the NFL owns a day of the week. Your dad I said a great conversation with your dad, Megan where he said, I mean, He's like, no, Mr kill Gallen, You're not one of those fans that won't go out to dinner because the big games on right And I'm like, no, I am. I've I've been like, hey, you wanna go to this thing. I'm like, well, the

Cubs are on, so I'll meet you there after. And he's like that's crazy, and I was like, no, I'm that guy. And so is that why you feel like you want there to be a change so then you can start enjoying your life more. I mean, I don't know. I don't know if I wanted to be a change because it does bring me a lot of joy, but it also brings me a lot of anger at the same same time, So I don't know what the change

might be. I think I'm a big fan of the Cubs president Theo Epstein, and I have a sneaky suspicion that the ownership is going to screw him over somehow because his contracts up in two years, They're gonna disrespect him or do something like that. And I could see myself being like, you know what, nothing will ever top

as a Cubs fan. It's time for me to follow THEO because I'm such a big fan of his, and maybe I could let go of some of this like insane psychotic breakdowns I have when again, when the Cubs don't win. There's no way that's happening from I mean, THEO is so great though. He is the only GM I can think of that had a stalker like that is so impressive to just be you know, you're just the guy behind at all. You're not even like front chasing camera videos that like. I mean, he is known.

But wow, that gal, she she was she like wound up on his Trump sorts. What happened. I don't know all the details, but THEO is a young, good looking guy. He was a Yale graduate who won for the Red Sox back in two thousand four when he was like twenty nine years old, so everyone was like, what's the term, like a wonder kid or something or can I don't know, some German means you're really smart and young, I think anyway, And then when he came over to the Cubs, he

was like, here's my plan. It's a five year plan. Year five of the plan, they won the World Series. That's just I don't know, He's like, he makes being a nerd cool, which something nerds have done. Actually, now that I said that, allowed sports nerds are pretty cool. Just like it's not as much of like a phase of having to convince you what you're cool if you know a lot about sports in my opinion, Oh yeah, when Nicety stumped the schwab boy it is it is

wet ass pussy over here. Okay, so today's topic. I'm so excited we're doing it. Was like when I was excited to do my research for you are the perfect person to do it with. We are doing greatest meltdowns. And before we even get into that, Joe, I don't know if there's and I mean this totally would love I don't know if there's a comedian in our friends circle who has more notorious meltdowns than you and most of them justified almost all of them. Justified some of them.

I will not name. I don't want lawsuits to be brought against me, but I've definitely been on your side for most of them. In your opinion, what is your greatest meltdown? My greatest meltdown? Okay, I had a playing basketball and I was like eleven years old, no, twelve years It was a big game. These were like two

undefeated teams and porge parks. Jim had like this upper balcony and all these girls were chanting Joey and because they knew they would kissed me off when I was on the free throw line, they'd like joe we and these were like girls I liked. I wasn't that mad with these dudes. I didn't like, we're saying some ship so um. Right after like a time out, I had the basketball and I threw it into the stand. Was trying to hit one of them in the head. So I threw a basketball into a crowd of people, and

that's it's against up into a balcony. So like I launched it and I got a tech and you only got a technical and that you got off pretty easy there. So I got lucky because I think the reference him swearing it out at me. This one kid, and you were eleven and were your parents there? They were not. It was the one game that didn't show up to Okay, So do you feel like you felt like the leash was off a little bit more? I would like to say that, but I've been um, you know my dad once.

I remember striking out and throwing my bat and the dugout my day going, We're going home, and I hit a home run earlier in that game, and he made me fourth inning because I threw a bat. So I haven't always held back in front of him. Yeah, I come. I come from a family of sports meltdowns. I would get in verbal altercations with almost every single girl I ever played tennis against. And then I started playing golf too, and so that's across. You're gonna see those girls again.

So then the girls I was fighting in tennis, I would then start fighting in the fall and golf. Just a real fun white girl cycle. My brother's psychos drop, kicking gloves, throwing things. My brother Michael making a jerk off signal at other nine year olds. He got ejected, He got thrown out of the gym, like they said you, he has to leave the building, and so then my mom and my dad was the coach, so he couldn't leave.

So my dad's just inside coaching, and my mom and my brother and I are outside in the car waiting for the game to be over. C J. I don't imagine that the Tola Donnas have as much of a past as Joe and I do. Well, I was gonna ask you, are these what you guys are describing meltdowns

are anger problems. It's a combination of both. I think a meltdown is kind of when you lose control of yourself, because I've had I've lashed out angrily where I'm like totally in control, I know what's going on, and then there's other times where it's like, oh, I wish I did not just punch that brick wall because that out my fingers are broken. You're talking about your brother. I do remember now. I was kicked out of a co ed flight a league um in Chicago because my one

cousin was getting real chirpy at wide receiver. He was mad that I wasn't hitting him, and I remember saying, like, hey, shut the funk up, t O, You're not open and uh, he said something else. I snapped the ball and I went to like try to hit him in the back. So I like threw a bullet and I missed him and hit a girl on the shoulder. And so then the ruffles like that was on purpose, and I'm like mad and her also she could have picked it off, like why you met me because she's shitty at defense.

And then you know, like they told me to leave and then away from the park like Judd Nelson at the end of Breakfast Club, but instead of the fist pump and in the middle finger all the us Wells park. So yeah, that was a fun That's impressive. Now we have all of these incredible stories of our own meltdowns. We will be right back with more famous people's meltdowns, and we are back. Is wait, there's a question I want to ask you about meltdowns. Know this is because

it pertains to what we're going to get into. And it's like you end up having kind of like funny moments and all of your meltdowns because you're a comedian, you are a funny person. Do you think that makes you like, do you think people that are funny and or smart and or like kind of wise ass end up being more predisposed to having meltdowns because they know they'll get away with it, or they'll like do something

funny that people will remember. Yes, I do in a way, but I also think something about funny or smart or whatever people have in meltdowns. Someone told me that because there's a difference. Someone tried to say I was an angry person once. I am not an angry person. I think my default setting is I'm a pretty happy guy. I have a bad temper, which is completely different like angry people walking around being like all the governments out to get me and this, this and this bad temper.

People were like, what's up? And then someone steps on our shoe and it's like, hey, Dick had kind of courtesies. I think what people that have melt downs and lash out is because we're so disappointed and other people that they're not meeting up to our standards. That's what I read. Once door tempers, we get disappointed in people like that's why like people with road rage, It's like, I'm disappointed and how shitty my fellow are. We're supposed to be

under the same set of rules. You just cut me off. You fucking idiot, and I can't tell you, I can't pull you aside and be like, listen, little guys, this is why you don't do that. So I have to scream at you. And I think that's why smart or funny people do. And I think I don't think anything's funnier to me than overreacting. When people overreact, it's hysterical.

Happy Gilmore is funnier than Billy Madison and Happy gil losing his fucking mind, and Billy Madison he's just dumb and sorry about what was a better movie, Billy Madison or Happy Gilmore. It's happy going more. You for me, used to be Billy Madison nowadays happy going Yeah. And the thing is our listeners they would want that take, you know, they're happy to that. That's kind of like a little appetize, sir. You're like, like, oh, like a little one bite. Okay, thank you. I didn't know we

were going to be ranking Adam Sandler least today too. Okay, Joe greatest Meltdowns. You are like the Benstein of this, So lead us off with your number three pick. Okay, My number three is Dennis Rodman kicking a cameraman in the nuts. It was kick, as a lot of people know. Now I know, it feels like almost a cop out to go with Roban, because he's such an obvious guy for heaven, like meltdowns, headbutted a referee, and all the

fights he's been in. This one in particular, I like because as a psycho, when you make an embarrassing move, because in that the play he kind of fell out of bounds Rodman and I think he was a little embarrassed and he fell into the cameraman. Now, so he took his rage out on someone else, which I can identify with big time. You gotta ask my wife, and

so that's what he does. He tumbles over, he messed up, so instead of just being like, my bad, he sees the cameraman who's kind of in his way, and then just sides, Oh, this ship's on you, buddy, and then gives him like a kick, which I always thought was unfair for people to say it was in his nuts, because if you notice, the kick was kind of underneath his thigh, so that cameraman might have a healthy pair, because I think that looked like a thigh kick. But

the cameraman swears he got a testicle. See this is how you know Joe is a psycho because he starts like being like, that's not his balls. He didn't get his ball, and it's like, well, you know, you can't kick people no matter what. It's a sensitive area. And and but I do think your assessment of it is correct. We hear a lot hurt people, hurt people, and Dennis Rodman in that moment was hurt because he looked like a dumb maass and then he said, I gotta hurt

this guy. It's really like in a lot of these it's people going after raths or fans that are saying stuff to him. In this situation, it really is a person truly. They're doing his job, which is neutral or nicer to the bulls, and he still attacked him. Well. I also think though, but the media and it's been changed over the years, sometimes the cameraman are too close. Sometimes you know, the stanchions too closer, like so they

feel like they move it back every few inches. But like I think it was yeah, wrong place at the wrong time, a little bit of a mixture, did he suit did the cameraman end up? So he did? Did And that's why I know in the lawsuit, he like mentioned testicle like he said that he got nuts, and that's why I remember at the time breaking down the film with my friends. We were bruder film over like. I don't think there's nuts there. I think I mean, maybe he's got a long sack. He's an older guy.

When you get older, a long sack a long stack. So again, if he has an extra long sack, then that's maybe that's his fault. Don't have a long sack. Don't get in the way of one of the greatest rebounders of all time who kicks when he rebounds exactly. I did act out everyone listening to the podcast, but it was a really good act out. Okay, Um, so this episode is starting with a bulls pick, got it? O? Um,

I know where I am. I have my bearing. I just want everyone to know I have chosen a no basketball and no balls, So no basketball and the breath of fresh that we need. Um, I will go next. My number three is a person. Okay, it's Tony Stewart and he has so many bad times that I was actually watching compilation videos of him freaking out to try and pick my favorite freakout. Sadly, tragically, Tony Stewart did kill a man, and that is not on this my list because I don't think of that as a miltonne

I think of that as like manslaughter. And so if we ever do manslaughter on the episode, I will revisit this. But I wanted to keep it light and bright, so I went with one of his other classics. Um. He gets into a wreck with Matt Kinzi and they trade paint, you know, number four two cargo and a number fourteen car. I love when they talk in cars. It's so fun, and so they Tony Stewart is in a car accident.

He is walking to an ambulance, takes off his helmet and chucks it at Matt kenseth car as he's leaving, like pitt Row, and then he just walks into the ambulance like he is. He could be injured, he could he just got into a car accident. And his first instinct is how do I funk up Matt Kinset's day? And Wow, he's since spoken about trying to get the

helmet back. He was not fine for that. He's like one of those people and and I and I it's sad because you see how it did eventually end up in tragedy where he just kept getting like a longer and longer rope, and NASCAR was like, I don't know, because even after he throws the helmet, he then like Arsenio Hall's the crowd and they love it. Like the NASCAR now is different than then, but you can tell

they seem almost handcuffed by his popularity. And part of his popularity is that he's a full blown fucking psychopaths, and so there were a lot of times when he should have been I mean, there's a there was another video he runs up and he takes off a guy who's like an official. He takes off his headset throws it at him, and then another official comes up, like

what are you doing? And then he charges that guy like he's truly a bull in a china shop, but the china shop is other people, and he does not care if they die. I remember that video and it made me think to myself, it's kind of shocking that it is in a regular occurrence in NASCAR, not like the extent of what Tony Stewart did, but think about it.

Their whole profession is almost car accident. Yeah, bumped like a little rear end you have this feeling in your chest like holy sh it, like I'm scared, and I'm also piste off and mad my car insurance gonna go off. Now I've done late to whatever I'm gonna be in. Take that in times of buy a million. And that's Nascar all the time. That's why always saw hockey player has always had a bad headache. Have you ever almost slipped on ice? That's their whole job is almost that feeling,

almost slipping on ice. So they want to punch people in the phase. So I'm surprised it doesn't happen more in NASCAR. Yeah, in racing, it's like, oh, this is truly life for death. The margins are like so so so slim. At one point, he has a rant just ripping the entire Goodyear, entire company. It's stopped to bottom, Matt the entire company. I really, I have to recommend.

It's from CJ's Employer Leach Report. They have the ranking of Tony Stewart's top ten tantrums, and I really oh and and him killing a person is not even on it, like that one. How prolific he is. So I suggest you taking a look at that list. I know at one point the family of the driver he killed. I'm not sure how that ended up, but Tony will say this till the day he dies, that it was fully an accident, but you do kind of look at his record and go an accident with a rage induced psycho

at the wheel. So that's my He's from Indiana, so it feels like I'm going extra hard at him. I am, And so that's my p s A about how scary racing is but also fun. All right, okay, so my number three pick, it's gotta be a tie only. I think these combined make a good pick, but also too because I was going to start off with Rodman, which I should have known you're going to start off with a Bowls one, but this one is half bowl so the one half of it is we don't we still

don't know the full details of the story. But Jordan's punching Steve Kerr in the head in practice, like what did we Maybe I missed the part of why it went down in the last dance other than like Steve Kerr wasn't playing up to again, Jordan's like he like, I don't know if there was a reason. I think that's why he was Jordan was disappointed. You can't handle my right cross and practice? How could I trust you

under the bright lights of Salt Lake City? Yeah, and and what happened He punched him and then later on he buried that shot. He buried the shot. So the second part of that was, um, it's like it's it's Kobe, who again very much has Jordan qualities. But he walked out. I mean, this is like a terrible roster and I

just remember this today. But he after scrimmaging and just destroying all of his teammates two fifteen season, he walked out on everyone in practice and said everyone's soft like Sharman and this is why we're not winning, and just walked off the court and ended practice for that day and on his roster. I mean, man, his last couple of years were brutal for him, having to play with like Tarik Black, Nicki Young who when he didn't Carre

Jeremy Lynn after he got like a crazy contract. And yet these are Kobe's Like I think he had a couple more years and he he just walked down on practice, had to meltdown. I I just love how justified you both feel in your picks, Like You're like, these are my picks, and it is a meltdown. But this is why I think they're okay that they did it. And I'm like, my man is a psychopath who deserves to

be in jail. Well, I like to set these guys at a normal and again after the last thing, I all you can do is but they were at one point at a normal level and then it just all crumbled for them and they kind of gave up and had a little tantrum. I think we're looking at the meltdown, like I could see why that happened. East person needs to be better. It's real quick. Did you see Augasol had a daughter? Yeah, the middle Land? That's real sweet.

You made me think of it with Kobe, and I know how big of Kobe Fancy two are so pau Gasol with the Bryant family is like nothing stirs some motions in me quite like it's just you know, it's such a tragedy and then to see like, oh wow, basketball is a community and this it is a brotherhood and it is a family, and it's just really it's just so beautiful and part of it is like Pow is so funny looking like you know, he looks like a Disney care he looks like the candlestick a little

bit in Beauty and the Beast, and so he's got any he's Spanish. I almost was like, well, but it's it's not that. But like the foreign and the and the tall, it's all great. I love it, um, Joe, give us your number two pick. A number two pick is a minor league manager of the Mississippi Braves. Megan likes this one. I can see who famously was ejected from a game. This was in two thousand six or two thousand seven, And I love a good manager one.

There's so many good ones. Obviously Blue Panella has a bunch in Bobby Cox or some really famous ones who went off back in the day to This one is particularly great because not only does he throw every base possible, he covers home play up with all the like the sand around the in the batter's box, covers like barries homeplay like a little child. Then he goes behind the pictures mound and starts doing an army crawl towards the

pictures mound. It's the rosin bag, bites it like it's a grenade and throws the rosin bag at the umpire like a grenade, and it lands at the umpire speed. The umpire doesn't move a muscle. He's I'm just gonna let this guy keep hamming it up for Sports Center. And then on his way out, he leaves through center field, so he walks through the outfield and he kind of does like a whole Cogan, like revving up the crowd a little bit, pumping it up. And at that moment,

I remember thinking myself, this man is a star. He's a legend. His name is Phil Wellman, and he has his own Wikipedia page and it is dedicated entirely to this meltdown. This is the this is the timeline. Uh, this was my number one pick. That's how I. If I had like Phil Wellman tattooed to my arm, we'll

be worried. He covers home play with dirt. He throws third base into the outfield, he armored, crawls to the pitching mound, throws the chalk back like a grenade, and then on his way out, he picks up second base and takes it with him. He left with second base, and the strangest thing is that all of the us are just standing there doing nothing. Like I feel like in baseball we see umps that are like, oh, you're gonna get in my face, I'm gonna get in base

even more, like they get like hyped for it. And I don't know if this minor league crew was different, but they're just standing watching like an off Broadway show, and they seemed perfectly fine with everything that's happening. I guess I'm happy they didn't stop him because it is burned in my memory and and it's I know it's a man freaking out, but it's like so delightful and funny that I think it's like a lighthearted meltdown. Yeah,

definitely lighthearted and definitely yeah. I think he started to like really ham it up a little bit there, but that's what made fun to me. It was great that it was a minor league manager because the minor leagues always have this, Like anyone who's ever sing the movie Bull Durham knows, the minor leagues always have like sideshow stuff.

They've got like silly nights. They'll have like a Star Wars night where they encourage people to bring their own lightsabers, and they have like, you know, they have these mascots that are really just like drunks that they just give five bucks to to go dance on a dugout, And it's just there's a lot of theatrics to minor league baseball. So that's why I was like, all right, it's kind of cool that they said keep going with it, but you knew he was mentally gone at the same time.

I mean, yeah, with also a minor league baseball and just everything we've been told her, Like we've seen documentaries like how worth it is it for anyone if there isn't potential like moving up, like you're just gonna snap at certain points. So again, like I totally get why he did this. Oh yeah, I bet to his players. He's like a hero too. Like so I wonder if he was a theater major in college because it's really like when he's army crawling, you're like, what is he?

Oh my god? And then you like he had a vision. It had it had a full arc of a story. He blew the man up. It's just so funny and good. That was my number one pick, So I'm gonna do a little reworking. Um. My number two pick is the John McEnroe Wimbledon. John McEnroe much like Tony Stewart without the manslaughter, has a law long history of freaking out, and in tennis that's the antithesis of what they want and what they think is to corm especially at Wimbledon,

like you have to wear all white. There's strawberries, there's cream. Everyone's really quiet and rich. And he it was his first first round match. He went on to win the tournament, so he's obviously heavily favored. He gets uh served called out and then he utters his famous line you cannot be serious, and is yelling that at the lines judge, and then is screaming to everyone in the stadium and

just keep saying it over and over again. I think he was penalized like one point, went on to win the match, and this incident became so infamous that he named his biography you Cannot be Serious, the John mcinreh story. It's great. I was waiting for him to get up. He's the post your boy from meltdowns. When everyone thinks of a mouthdown, it goes right back to McEnroe. I think Megan and I are particularly fond of him. The fact that he looks like you could be one of

our uncles. I's got the whole irish thing that we got going on, and yeah, the you cannot be serious is just such a perfect thing to say do an official like are you know? It's like are you You're a joke? And he would for the most is he has then made his whole post tennis career off of that. He's embraced it. So if you're a psycho listening to this podcast right now, get help, but also embrace it. The first step to doll the problem isn't meanting you

have one, and then you could go from there. Yeah, I think like Happy Gilmore was based off of him. I mean, like you know, and like you talk about someone who embraced it afterwards or made their career like Barkley outspoken, like these are guys who they were like I'm gonna continue to be myself in the game, and then when they retired and now they have very front facing careers after that. I was on a zoom call

with John McEnroe recently. You don't need he my camera was off, but my name was there, Okay, so like I was. There were only three of us and my camera was off, but he felt me for sure, and he was he my presence, honey, And he was saying that he almost feels bad for the tennis stars of today because he was kind of not by the sport, but by outside forces and cool people encourage, like, be yourself if this is how you express yourself, break a fucking racket, who cares do do funny things like be

a rock star within your sport. And he feels like, now, I mean, Federer wouldn't kill a spider, you know, like they, I mean, Djocovic smashed a woman's esophagus, so he's got a little psycho in there. But but tennis, really it's turned and if you see someone do what McEnroe did back then, now it's like, up, they're terrible. And he's like, I feel like they've been robbed of getting to be

fully insane. It's definitely a sport that you encourage more personality because I feel like the most you hear about a lot of tennis stars is who they're dating. And you know, it went from McEnroe to Agassi, who was like fun tennis player, a little overrated, but he was like, oh I wear silly hats and this is the early nine I mean code commercials. But yeah, they definitely need

another guy that's like a happy Gilmore. You need someone where it's like this guy's not from your country club, but not Jocovic, Like he took it, Yeah, yeah, he took it too far. But there was a guy who because they come out with those like giant bags and so you have like three or four rackets in there

in case you break a string. And there was a guy a few years ago who broke, like on purpose, smashed every single one of his rackets on the ground and having I I broke a racket, smashed it on the ground in front of my parents when I was a teen, and it felt so fucking good. But then I like looked up and I see my parents and there I can just like see how much the racket costs in their eyes, you know, like they're like, what

do you You're losing your freshman Matt. It's just in't Wimbledon, Like you just cost me two hundred and seventy dollars a little bit, But but I got any one but one racket was on today and I'm not realizing. Seinfeld as a TV show had two full episodes that were tennis theme. Kramer as the US Open ball boy, Yes, there's yeah kramer Is the ball Boy was hysterical, and then another one where Elaine let a boss borrow a

racket and they'd like try to get it back. And I'm thinking, man Seinfeld, first stand up comedian, he must have been so unrelatable to all those other Manhattan comedians. He's going to tennis, he's doing all this other He was in LA at that point, so he was probably these are probably l A stories seeping in. Yeah, definitely like rich guy stuff. It doesn't doesn't give that Manhattan upper west side guy type of vibe to me. He looks he has like the shoes of someone who likes tennis.

Um and I mean that offensively. Okay, c J, give us your number two, my number two. I'm surprised this when this didn't make your listening honorable mention Megan Bobby Knight against Perdue in something like that. But and I still don't know if this was the one time he did or if he had done this a few times.

But he had several meltdowns. But this one is the chair threw a chair onto the court, which then was just like parodied or like other people when they wanted to have like fake meltdowns did as like an homage. But Bobby Knight is I think king of I guess meltdowns for coaching. He really is. No, That's why I actually like fully forgot. I didn't know he wasn't and it was against Perdue. Did you know that? I did

know that well. And Bobby Knights a classic example of someone who behaved poorly for decades and then he ended up being fired because I think he shoved a student who was not a basketball player, which I think if it had been ten years earlier, they would have be like all right, but it really felt like it was like the final straw. And then he went to Texas Tech and he act like a psycho there too. Yeah,

for with the shoving a student, Yes, it's terrible. I'm sure they were just like it's been too much of this, like let's let's start fresh. This is the last straw. And remember the kid was like he was walking and was like hey, Night like addressed him in a way that he found disrespectful, and it's like, yeah, I'm sure this kid wanted to get a rise out of you. Like if you see if you're twenty and you see a famous psycho, you're like, I'm gonna get this guy,

and then he did. What I don't know about the chair toss was how much the chair was already folded and it slid perfectly across the court. You know what I mean? It was almost like what shuffle board like if you would have like had a twenty points if I get this far. There was no like awkwardness about it, because a lot of times you throw a chair, it's

not like a graceful thing to throw. But that thing was like perfectly split out, like you would have been great at that Canadian game what's it called curling or whatever. Now you you did some tablework your wedding. You smashed a table. I love how these stories go to um. You remember when I got into it with another comedian. I'll admit this everybody, your wedding. I'm gonna get to the wedding real quickly. But I love how stories get

like I smashed. I didn't smash the table, but howevery takes on a life of its own with meltdown stories. I once pushed a comedian and there was one step behind him, went down one step. Two days later everyone's telling me, I heard you thrown down six flights of stairs. What's going on? Um Drew Michael, everybody, I'll throw the name out that some gossip for the listeners. Uh yeah. But also word to the wise, don't talk ship when you're standing in front of stairs. That's a classic crazy

man phrase. The table incident about and my wedding, the DJ who was recommended from other people. I saw him at other weddings and thought, this guy's good, will go with him. The week of my wedding was like, m I A. I couldn't get ahold of him. He obviously showed up, but was like, hey, had some email exchanges that you didn't follow through, and he's like, no, I got We're good. I had to do not playlist c J.

You guys had a great band in retrospect. That's the way to go, because you could be like, hey, don't hit that fucking note. DJ plays a song, it's being played. I do not playlist and a must playlist. I had already heard two songs and they do not playlist. So I'm already like getting mad, even though I'm still having a good time. Then I looked at the clock and I'm like, we had twenty minutes left, and I need

to hear about nine songs on the must playlist. And there was a little high top bar table, not a table that people would sit at, but a table that

you just kind of rest your drink upon. And I just kind of like give it a quick flip and looked over and I think like one of my wife's uncles was like, hey, hey, you know, And so a few people got upset, but not enough where most people who saw it were like Joe, even on his wedding, this guy likes on brand, right, Well, yeah, because you want someone to feel comfortable enough on their wedding they to be who they are, and if that means flipping a cocktail table, then that's what it means. It was

a really fun wedding. Uh, let's take a break and we'll be right back with our number one picks. And we are back with our number one picks, and oh I'm first. Wow. Okay, so I had to do some movie around, so I don't have any honorable mention. So my number one pick is Mike Tyson fill in the blank biting Evander Holyfield's ear. June seven, they are in their heavyweight rematch and during the third round, Tyson bites his ear he had had a biting history too, Like

I didn't realize that he was a biter um. He ended up being disqualified, he got like a chunk of it out. I mean, it's very strange and terrifying. He ended up being disqualified suspended from boxing, but that didn't stop his meteoric continued rise to fame, and that pisces me off. Hem I like, I get it at listen. I know that there's people that like Mike Tyson. We seem to really forget that he was convicted of reaping a woman. And I don't think we need him anymore.

I I hangover fuck you every It's just like everything that he touches to me is tarnished. And I hear people in the sports world who I really really respect speak positively about him, and it really pisces me off. So, yeah, he sucks, and I just don't understand how he keeps It's like he has a face tattoo. He was so funny in this movie. It's like, Wow, have you forgotten every single thing? Joe? I'm so happy to see you shaking your head in agreement with me. I don't know

if you remember. I used to have a joke where I talked about how people were saying that, like remember when Tiger Woods cheated on his wife a bunch of times, there was like a poll on CNN, will America forgive him? And I'm like, forgive them? I mean we forgave Ray Lewis you forgave Mike Mike Tyson, Like, literally, you're right,

you said he was convicted of rape. I almost wanted to do these people forget about it because yeah, he bid someone zero if he was a rapist, And it is insane to me how everyone just forgets about that, especially in today's climate. And I almost wonder if it's just people ignoring it because he was so dominant. I think I don't even think it's boxing related. I think they think he is like a funny entertainer. I love p t I. It is like the basis of everything.

I listened to it every single day on the podcast, and they love him in a way that I'm like, you guys are usually like pretty good, especially the stuff that's been going on right now, and it angs me and it makes me want to like contact them and be like please stop. Mike Tyson's son, who I know is innocent in all of this is an intern for them, Like they say, Mike Tyson, They're like, he is the most entertaining, charismatic, likable athlete of all time, and I'm like,

I'm I on an alternate land it. I think what's happened is because we watched him for a decade be this incredible fighter, and then that stuff had happened, and then he came back as like a pop culture cameo and they're like, look at him, He's funny. He's kind of like he's like reformed. But I don't know there was no ever like process really of like any sort

of like reformation or like you know, lessons learned. But I think that's why it was like at one point we were all scared of him, but now he's like a tiger that you could put your hand in his mouth and listen. I don't want to be called a hypocrite because we obviously talked about Kobe earlier in the episode, and Kobe had a very similar bad, bad, bad thing happened, and I think through his death we've learned how remorseful he was and how much he admitted fault in that situation.

And I don't even want to bring in like he wasn't convicted, because it's like that actually doesn't matter at the end of the day. It's it's how you react from that. And I think Kobe took it and said, I'm going to be an amazing father. And I admit to this woman that I thought one thing was happening, but another thing was happening and I and I did rape her, and I and I'm like so sorry for that. I know this is like getting heavy, but like because I guess it's similar in that in that instance, but

they're so dissimilar in how they handled it afterwards. I don't think being cast in a movie is is a redemption. I don't think that means you show remorse. I think working for women's basketball and for your daughters, and for doing everything in your power to uplift the women in your life, and when all the women around you say and can vouch for you, I think that is actual redemption and it does not erase it, but at least

it's a path forward. And I don't think Mike Tyson has done anything to deserve the path forward that he's been granted. Yeah, I agree, he didn't atone for anything. I feel like he didn't do nearly enough jail time for it. He comes back from it has the mouthdown of the biting the ear thing. I mean this was after he was after this big comeback in a big store comeback. He was a voice on a Simpsons episode. I believe afterwards too, and um, yeah, because I think

it was like he was in jail. I'm not exactly positive. I hope I'm not wrong. And then the Holy Field thing was the comeback because everyone was like, this fight should have happened in their primes. They were both a little bit older, so that was like the whole thing. That's I think the whole story of everybody match. These two should have fought five years ago, but he got on the way or whatever. But yeah, I agree with you, Pcent.

I think Kobe, yeah, it was a horrible thing, but it seems like every decision in his life afterwards was to atone for that. And yeah, with a lot of giving back where I've not really seen that. I think you said it best. CJ has become like a character and everyone just acts like he's this lovable cartoon, but I don't really see him that way either. I'm glad that I'm on an alternate planet. But at least you

guys are here with me. That makes me feel better because I thought I was just truly living on Mars. But I got some good ones. All right, Okay, c J, you you give us your number one. That was gonna be my number one pick. We should have talked to each other before, but that's what happens. But I thought c J was just gonna pick. I don't someone you know, throwing a pizza at someone three times. Well, now my alternate pick, which is no, is by no means I

think that my number one. But I want to mention the Knicks in a way like at some point when we talked about melt sounds like I think there's a few things, but the couple that I remember is want to get. I think the Knicks. I think John Starks sort of melting down physically in his performance, and Spike Lee like the whole choking that that was like one. But and then there was one in two thousand twelve

that I always loved too. Whenever the game is over and like someone messed up, I love hearing the stories like in the locker room. So this one is after I think the game too. Two thousand twelve first round Knicks heat, and this is the season that Jeremy Lynn played for the Knicks had li insanity but then got hurt and Carmelo and Amari we're back, and Amari punched a fire extinguisher and took himself out of the series.

And then a few years later, Lebron punched a chalkboard after I think it was the two thousand eighteen finals. It was after the j r. Which is kind of like a brain meltdown, which, um so I just it's and you talked about early just as like a general example of just players punching things, like we just love to punch things or punch a hole in the wall, and yeah, I just like when it's a specific object, like a fire extinguisher. So I just wanted to mention that by no means the greatest, but it was a

fun one to mention. Well, I think the Knicks are a great pick because they are sort of a organizational melt down. They feel like they feel like they're in free fall, but they've been that way for now decades, Like at some point are they gonna hit the ground? They just keeping like and they never splat, which I guess is good for them that they don't splat, but who being a fan of there seems very difficult. Exhausting, Yeah, exhausting.

John Starks did headbut a lot of headbuts in the sports meltdown world, So honorable mention to all the headbuts out there. All right, Joe, why don't you bring us home with your number one pick? Alright? My number one definitely feels like a little too Chicago for me. But this guy was like a hero of mine for a good few years there. Megan, you probably had a run in with him when you were in turning from BC Sports Chicago. It's one Carlos Brono, I had a run

in with Zambrano's cousin. You can't just leave us on that one. What was he just like stared at my butt intensely when I was in the locker room and and but I remember being like who is that? And they were like, Simbrono's cousin, Like, where the fund is he even here? Cousin? Yeah, who cares? That's like the worst part of the entourage. A cousin turtle turtle looked at your ass. So Zimbrono had a game in which he did everything you could do as a baseball player.

It was a play at the plate after giving up a big lead, and the Cubs were released scuffling. At this point it looked bang bang umpire called him safe. Sombrono immediately pointed at the umpire like, I think you. You said, are you you blind? Piece of fucking ship? You pretty much? I don't know how you guys are swearing on this podcast, but it's exactly what he said. You could read his lips clear as hell. Um objects him. Zimbrono,

of than does the allium out of the game. No, your game, that's like you get from me because I quit. That's that equivalent. Then Zimbrono takes the baseball. Now, mind you he has a round home plate. He chucks it into the bleacher really like sixty ft throw, which is like, look, pictures have strong arms, so it's not like unheard of to be that strong. Trevor Bauer last year in a game throw the ball from the mound over the center field wall in Kansas City, which that's a good mountdown.

Two people shall look that up. He's he's had kind of like a fun track after that. Well, what I loved about the Bauer thing and I'll get back to Zerrano. Terry Francona comes out and he's already like what the fun was that? Like before he even gets to the mound, and and Bauer puts his hand on Francona's shoulder, me like I'm really sorry. And then they traded him like two days later. But Zimbrono then goes into the dugout does the classic See you're talking about punching a fire extinguisher.

Punching is always hilarious. He boxes the water the gatorade I remember this now, and then threw some balls onto the field, went into the dug out. He didn't fight a teammate this time, but Simbrono was notorious for fighting. You got to fight with Derek Lee and Michael Barrett. He gave like nine stitches in the mouth to Brono was like a six ft five inch two hundred like sixty pound he was. He's the tight end in the NFL.

The picture in a Psycho And then in the post game, they asked the Cubs manager at the time, who do I believe was Louke Panella, who's pretty famous for Yeah, they said, uh, what did you talk to big does Zambrano, what a big z have to say? And he said, oh, he says he's retiring favorite of melt do because that's I've done the whole I've had that on stage where I go, you know what, I should have taken the

Fireman's test. I hate all your people, and I told times when I've had those mouthdowns, like none of you are fucking special, and CO go to a ghost, your band, your losers, and then like you walk off and you tell the other producers, I'm never I'm never doing this. I relate to the this was so bad. I can

never show my face in this world again. What what is it about baseball where you're allowed to just have like the game is slow and like because dugout, freak outs and meltdowns are always on eleven, like just crazy c J. I really think it's because it's every day. They see each other every day for a hundred and sixty games. Spring training now starts in mid February, and a regular non global pandemic year starts in like early February. Pitchers and catchers report mid February, and then if you're

a good team, you're going through October every day. So I think like when things start to go bad and it's a hard sport, it's not like basketball or football where your athleticism could overcome some stuff. In baseball, if you're something, it's over I also think in the dugout, there's so many props, Like there's balls to throw, They're like there's just in basketball you see someone you know, get like a gatorade bottle and chuck it or a towel.

But like baseball, their shelves in there, you know, like they can just they can funk it up like they're in someone's home. Almost. Yeah, Zambrano lou Panella, like, I honestly feel honored that I even got to be around that era of Chicago baseball because obviously what was happening on the South Side was pure craziness too. Between I mean, Ozzie Gien and Jay Mariotti could have their own greatest Meltdown list. It was really a fun time of psychos,

but innocent psychos. Yeah, I thought about like maybe and Azzi Gian never turned it off. He was always that for a true meltdown, you have to have moments where you seem level headed and then you just go off the deep end. So I almost felt like Azzi Gian was someone I kind of avoided. Ronner tests. I'm surprising of us threw him out there. I think, yeah, he's they have malice. I don't think that's a meltdown. I think he had something thrown at him and he reacted

to it. Everyone. Yeah, thank you. See knows where my where my allegiance lies. Um Joe, you'll love this. I today was the first day I left the house in four days, and the you know how it gets out here, but it's it's worse right now. Guys, if you are able to I know there's a lot of things to help right now, but if there's any way you can help the Red Cross with the wildfires out here. I bring that up to say I did drive by Dodger Stadium.

The visibility is very very bad right now, especially like higher up in the air, and I saw not one but two planes circling Dodger Stadium with signs making fun of the astros who are in town. So they said, you know what, we may not be able to see, but we gotta get these puppies in the air, And the one that I was able to read said good luck stealing this sign. Astros che ers, um, and I just love that even in the midst of a terrible natural disaster and global pandemic, we still find a way

to say fuck you to the Astros. And that's actually what America needs right now. Damn straight. We don't need a government that helps assistance. We need more people shooting on the Astros because that comes from the right place. You know, you cheated, you stole, fuck you. We could all get on the right side of that. How are they able to keep that World serious championship? Because baseball is Look, it's one of my favorite sports, but it

is run by the dumbest human beings. Actually, someone plowed the idea of theo Epstein take being come from in the next Commissioner of Baseball, because he's what else did the Epstein need to accomplish? I mean, Cleveland Indians having won the World season seven years. I guess you could go there and say that fan base, they're just running my stupid people. And I agree with you, Megan, it's

nice that we're coming together over this. What is particularly awesome is it seems like everyone that the Astros wronged is having a great year. The Dodgers are dominating you. Darvish was on my beloved Cubs. He got they cheated against him, he got they crushed him in that World Series and they did. Remember this is I can do this for you guys. Remember the one guy did the I thing. He didn't do it. You didn't you didn't do it. I was saying the record, Joe did not

do it. He just he said I and held it in. I just want to make sure it's a podcast. Joe is a good man. Yeah, yeah, I didn't actually do it. I was trying to remind I didn't know what to call that. What do you call that? A visual slur? Thank you to the visual slur things. So you darbish like that was a bad World Series for me to deal with all the questions about how do you feel about this guy insulting your heritage too. I don't know what happened. I was one of the best pitchers in baseball,

and it's like they know what's coming. So the Cubs signed the following year. He went from that World Series to the Cubs. He was terrible his first year with the Cubs because he was trying to fix a problem that didn't exist. He thought he had like he thought he was tipping his page Jesse. He goes, there must be something like mechanics that tell the hitter when a curveball's coming, so I have to change the way I

pitch because I'm gonna get rocked. It turns out no, they were using high technology to cheat against you, and now that Darvish knows that, since the Astros have been exposed, Darvish is seven and two with like the he's like second in the league. In the r A, he's like second and straight. He's like a cy young candidate, and it's awesome to see because all these people were like, oh, he's done, when really he was just a victim of

a cheating scandal. It's like when you're doing a show and you're like, god, I'm really they just do not like me, and you're like what am I doing wrong? And then you like go back to the green room and they're like, oh, you know, everybody's from Sweden and you're like, well, what the funk? I didn't know everybody was from So now I feel so much better. I thought I was terrible at comedy. They don't speak English, so I'm actually fine and that yeah, I relate to you.

Darvish in that way. I'm I'm happy he's having a redemption story. Yeah. The Astros what a representation of a lot of things that's wrong. And I loved that little guy all to bay. I wanted to put him in my pocket, carry him around. I thought it was so freaking isn't he I think he's up there. I think he's breaking up there. Joe, where can our listeners find you? I know our listeners will in your podcast on all

of your social media. Yeah, so I have a podcast was called kill Gowns pub it's still kind of is. I just call it the Joe kill Gown Podcast now, just to make it easier for people to search, kind of recreate bar conversations. Both c J and Megan have been on and they've been fantastic. And I also my YouTube channel. I put a lot of I upload a lot of videos, podcast clips, a ton of like almost three hours of stand up clips are on there now and TikTok. I post less stuff on TikTok my Twitter.

If you're looking for comedy, don't go to Twitter, because I just tweet about the Cubs now, Cubs recap, c J and I watch your He'll go. We got a New Cubs recap. So today's was kind of funny because the Bears had just won the no hitter happened, and I like four or five friends in my garage, and um, they're all yelling like Danny Collis and Bobby Buds are yelling Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself like in the background, and they're just being idiots. Okay, uh, final final thoughts,

what do you think the Bears record is going to be? Honestly, I was hoping for four and twelve and we could get the first pick. I want that Lawrence going to be the quarterback. I don't think mix Robinsky is ever gonna be consistent of quarterback to win playoff games. I don't think Naggi is the guy either there. So the quicker we figure this out and restart pace is not a good GM. He's made some decent mid round draft picks,

but he's first round picks have been busts. And yeah, I'm just kind of done with this era of Bears football. So even though I want them to win every game, I'm not holding out high hopes. Okay, you're you're hoping for a few wins. That's the thing with like With baseball, it's such a long season you just kind of hope for you can get lightning in a bottle. And football, once you're owing three, that's your season essentially, and then you have to sit through fifteen more weeks of just

bad football. So I don't really and it's not like fun. Like basketball, we could root for individuals to take over. I love Allen Robinson, but we have a bad quarterback, so I'm not expecting Allen Robinson to put up great stats, where in basketball some guy could just take over and be like, my team sucks, but I'm gonna put thirty tonight. It's just yeah. So that's why football, when your team is bad, it's it's rough. And I'm not doing fantasy football.

And this year neither I said no to all of it. Um but Bears are one of no though, so they're already disappointing. You were even disappointing you even through winning, and I think that's really beautiful. You can find me at Megan Gaily at Better Megan Gaily on Instagram. They'll be all new bubble Machine on Thursday. C J at CJ told on Everything and yeah, I just be tweeting you be tweeting, We're just happy to be here, happy to do this show for you guys. Please rate, Please

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