Greatest Dressed Athletes with Dave Schilling

anything else. Well, I'm just saying why I was delayed answering because I was looking trying to I did one of those things, I like, fired a tiny shot and then I'd like to see what comes back at me. And then if I'm like, oh, that's fine, then I'll really I give a warning. That's how you know you're a pro. And you know you have stages of your beefs on Twitter. I mean I don't it's not even a beef. And we're also joined by our very good friend, Um, the person who I I love that you're on because

like me, you're not just a sports guy. You're a comedy You're a pop culture and I don't know how whenever I talk, I'm like, what do I do for a living. Who understands this? I go, oh, Dave understands this. I understand everything, Dave. I got my fingers in everything. Thank you for having I feel honored to be here. Was this an episode number seven? I think eight. We have a couple, but we you were when we first started. I was like, we're definitely gonna have Dave on very early.

You have to I set the tone. I set the bar high. Thank you, this is great. And yeah, CJ, You've had an interesting career. I've had an interesting career very much so. I think of you guys, says not one and the same, but like paths that sometimes cross. And anytime I started to anytime I started to be less successful, I'm like, I'm getting too close to see I'm kidding. I'm gonna let me cue you up. First. Let me give you, people that are listening a little

bit of background. You've written for the w w E. We became friends when you were writing for Bleacher Report. As a journalist, You've written for and worked for The Ringer. You hosted a wrestling podcast for The Ringer, Right, I did. It's called The mass Man Show. Okay, and then so yeah, I mean and then you've written for TV and what else tell us more. I started my journalism career advice that was I was doing stand up and then I started when it was cool. Yeah, it was absolutely. Now

they've never paid well. I'm fine saying it now that they don't pay well. I didn't know if it was like a hey Day where like if you got in before the TV show they were paying well. But it seems like it was always just that Brooklyn building not paid. Yeah, it's like, we pay you with cocaine and rings. It's a vice on it cool. Yeah, and there's people in Brooklyn that are like, great, my parents pay my rent

and I want cocaine and vice rings exactly. Then I went to grant Land, which was to itself r I P and but then you were doing stand up during all I was like what the hell? And then I quit because I was making too much money. Why am I gonna go work for free smoke? I was smoking back then. Oh yeah, you're a sports writer. I think a cigarette on you would look intellectual. It does. You've always been a well dressed man, is why we've had

the topic that we picked today. Best dressed athletes are greatest? Sorry, get the branding right, otherwise you're getting cancel. Listen. It's it's in the title the greatest athlete dressers. But you you're a dapper guy. You've only had your mind on on fashion and it's important to you. Yeah. My mom got me a g Q subscription when I was like ten, and they're most of the photos of me as a kid. From like three until I was ten or twelve, I

was in suits all the time. Oh my god, I love even going to school, and not to school every day, but like, we have a kindergarten graduation ceremony at my private school, and of course I wore a suit and I had the Dick Tracy hat. The hat, and there was also a watch that Yeah, but it wasn't like the actual toy because we weren't rich. It was they had the watch, but you unscrew the top and then it's lip bomb because I always need a lip bomb because I got dry lips, like l cool Jay, So

I've always gotta keep a moist kind of out. Mine has a city at the ready, so smart just let mine get crusty, I can tell. But yeah, sometimes a smooch and I'm like, oh, you just want some chopstick, and you know I got something you can't find. I feel like you don't even want to kiss your white You're approaching me like this bitch. But her lips are going to help mine. It's a mutually beneficial marriage, which I like to see. That's great. Now, do you feel like,

since having a son, you really love dressing him? Yes? And my ex wife and I have very different opinions on how we should dress. She is really big into not matching, so she'll wear like as an aesthetic. Yeah, like leopard print with like stripes and some like checkered vans, and she just dresses ridiculously. That's fine for me. She think this is why I didn't work out. Oh God, Greatest Divorces in one. We have to do a lot of these episodes come around. We haven't even done like

real ones. Yeah, like we haven't even done the Greatest World series. Like we're tiptoeing around in the fun ones before we get in and we want we're kind of picking the guests and then going we're kind of reverse engineering it, you know, We're like, we're not going to have you come on and be like greatest sports movie.

I mean, like you would kill that, but we know you major league obviously, yeah, oh yeah, major league anyways, But so you had a subscription of g Q when you were attended like the way I because I also I didn't have subscription, but I was always buying those celebrity magazines and g Q because I would look at the pictures and then see what was in like trench coats or whatever, and then I would try and find the cheaper version of that, and I would build, you know,

stuff like that or outfits that way. That was college for me. It was like, Okay, I can't afford this, this, this, and this, but I can go to Crossroads in the Mission in San Francisco and I can get something that kind of looks like that. Now I can afford nice stuff. Until I buy nice stuff, I kind of buy. Yeah, I mean, now I can afford I can afford nice stuff, so I just buy lots of trash. Yeah is my source?

Well yeah, I think some people, you know, like I've spent thousands of dollars on wrestling, like vintage wrestling apparel, like old WWF hats and stuff, So I think that's more your vibe. It's like finding vintage and like you know, putting together a street where aesthetic through vintage done and are do you used to do that? You don't do that anymore? No, I still do. I mean I like to go from you know, something that's more casual and athletisury to you know, like today, I'm wearing a double

breasted super what's the T shirt of? This is fran Lee Bowitz writer, Um, and this is women's T shirt because the Wing made T shirts for this on the Wing and it's like women's sizes only you know what I'm gonna try. I have some men I have like a clueless shirt that's a men's shirt. Why is this for?

But I like the way men's shirts fit me because I like to like tie and make like a little CROPTI right, yeah, yeah, see yeah, the men's and women's and Nike is actually doing a great job of not making stuff and saying this is for this gender or not, like clearly in a head to toe women's So yeah, you're in a you're in a matching out or matching sets swear roon, which I never would have even ventured to think about pre c J. Yeah, there's no way.

What did you say you're addressed as this morning. Um. I sometimes I say this, I look like a choreographer, yeah kind of Um. Hair is too long to be a choreotea. Yeah, I would have it in like high pigtails. You said that you are addressed as if you were about to get surgery. Yes, yes, I do. I look like when because we see housewives on raw. Housewives go get surgery a lot or and sometimes it's not cosmetic.

Sometimes it's like dramatic or ib f things. And but they always you can't wear makeup or like have your hair down, your nails or anything when you go to have surgery. So they're always trying to turn a look. So they'll be in like head to toe leopard jumpsuits going in to get a facelift, just because they're like, I need the people to know that I still went in with that ship. It also distracts from the fact that you're not wearing makeup and you look as bad

as you're ever gonna look on televisions. And I had like the hood up this morning, sunglasses on. I mean I looked like the man from the outsiderer I was gonna say, you look like dark Man, remember dark the hat that Fedora Man. Yeah, every guy in Brooklyn in Williamsburg dresses like dark for sure, or like has it's either that or like the Peter McAllister beige trench coat or like overcoat. I was gonna say the Count of Monte Cristo, but sure, Yeah, I really love that. I

love how CJ dresses like. I think it's so cool and fun and when I when my eyes just look around l A. It's some of the worst fashion I've ever seen in my life. There's a lot of bad dressers here, absolutely, and I think this has never been a better time for men to start caring about how they dress. You know, when we were kids, it was like Abercrombie or American Eagle and that's it. Did you ever? Oh yeah, I was told I saw an old high school friend over the holidays and she was like, you

were such a preppy back. I hated you. It was like it's like it was like Tommy Hill figure Polo. I mean we would go to an outlet mall and buy our clothes for the year. Yeah. I just was wearing Polo dress and it was preppy, but I liked it. Yeah. I I copped a pair of birken Stocks back in high school and that was weird, Like, what do you think I mean, that's that's high fashion. I was already way ahead of the Bell curve when I was sixteen.

But I think when you say preppy, if you're wearing blazers, and I was wearing blazers too and reading movie magazines at Barnes and Noble, we were like bomb back level preppy, not like just Abercrumpie play. We're talking like classic American preppy, farmer preppy versus like intellectual East Coast prep, like proper prep.

There's a their drastic difference. I guess, yeah, I was Indiana preppy, which they would be like trash, which is yeah, I think the same, the same as it was in my hometown, which is in Central California, which was far me and agricultural use, which is near friends now. So it was all like, you know, kind of costco Kirkland signature polo shirts are. If you were lucky, you go to Modesto and you get Abercrombie. Wow, we had an Abercrombie. Had a friend who worked at Abercrombie, one of my

best friends. God, you got the hook up. I don't think I got the hook up because she was everyone I knew who worked at Abercrombie, but her was like a thief. Oh yeah, of course. Yeah, you still a girl who managed one and all she did was steel and then like sella. But my friend Abby was like by the book she was. She she was a corporate trill. You know. You know what now all of us are living in Hollywood, right, guys. Yeah, I worked at Hollister.

I also worked at a Hollister for like three months. Yeah, it's always a short stint. Where did you work there? Yeah? It smells like garbage, and I'll tell you my story. But how how did you fall into a job at all? I knew a dude who was a manager. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, I went to What happened with me was my buddy. Actually, he just like this white farm type kid, and he went into He was like, hell, I'm going on a group interview. I'm like cool, can I come? And he

was like yeah sure. And I went there trying to be like a guy, trying to make everyone laugh, and I ended up getting the job out of the people actually interviewing, because that's what Hollister needs arm well, a funny Filipino team. Otherwise, just like completely stupid, like Philly white guy. I was like, that was like a diversity hire, like this Hollister definitely needs some color. But then they made me work in the back room and and then during my lunch break on my first shift, I never

came back. It's cool the TV writer's rooms worked the same way. Yeah, I never the way I felt then. I didn't know I'd be feeling it in a career. I thought I was really made for um. Thirty three years later, I say this to c J a lot because he tries to help me sort of like push the envelope with my clothing, and I'm like, yeah, but you gotta understand I'm ade like now middle aged white woman and you are like a man of color. There's

just different things that you can pull off that. Like sometimes he'll try and address me and it's like I look like a YouTube character. I look like someone making fun of someone trying to be young I And I guess that sort of like leads into the topic do you guys feel like you've got like a little bit more leeway being like, yeah, I'm a black man, I got a little more sack people? What do you Rosparo

over here? Good God, what would I say instead of you guys, those of you who are of a different race than I, do you feel like you've got like a little bit more absolutely answered, you just like letting me dig a deep hole. So serious answer to your question is yes, absolutely. And this was the point I when it's to make about athletes, is it because they are one in impeccable shape and can wear everything well within reason? Because with basketball players they're tall the models

basically yes. And also when you when you were you know of a of a minority ethnic group, or or you know, any sort of minority group, you are more apt to feel weird. You were more more comfortable feeling weird, and you don't feel as much pressure to conform to certain aesthetic preferences of the main stream. So I don't feel quite as bad about dressing in a different way than some people would who you know are are Caucasian or or whatever, because I like it. I like to

stand out. I'm happy you're standing out, and I'm I've always stood out no matter what, just because of who I am. Yeah, when did you realize that that you were black? It took a while actually because my dad, my dad was white, so it was. I lived in a white world, so it took me a while to figure out, Oh, I can get away with certain things, or I'm a part of this and and maybe I should learn more about Tupac and maybe I should stop

listening to the replacements as much. Uh. Yeah, it took a while for me to realize that it was okay to dress differently because I wanted to fit in. When you're in high school, you want to fit in. So I was That's why people thought I was up prep and I was because I was wearing Abercrombie because I wanted to fit in. I wanted to play baseball and be cool and not feel awkward. Did I nail being

not awkward? Of course? That's what's great, is like inherently you're still going to have like but you have a little fashion sense. Yeah, that's exactly why I want to undercent like exactly feel that way. You're like, oh, you try to fit in a little bit, and you're like that's boring or that like what is the fun? Even if you try, Even if you try, it's never going

to be enough. And I think that is what a lot of people of color experience in this country is I'm gonna do my best, and I'm gonna try and I'm gonna fit in. I'll be I'll be Barack Obama, and I'll do it all the right way. But at the end of the day, even if I become president of the United States of America, I'm still not going to fit in. It's still going to be mad at

my tan suit. Yeah, so why that just beat your and that's and God bless our athletes are are are minority athletes who are a dressing better than they ever have in the entire history of sports. Well, okay, so let's get into it. Then we'll just start off here today's episode the Greatest Athlete dressers or the best dressed athletes of all time. Um, I feel like this is

the one that is a long time coming. This is primary Like whenever people ask me about sports and why I love it so much, it's crazy, but it is a large part of it is because of, like you said, the way these players express themselves off the court, off the field, and to me, it's such a big part of how I'm even able to follow it. Like you know, these guys are superheroes. They play amazing on the field or the court, but I'm like, how do I differentiate

these guys, you know, outside of that? How do I continue to follow them in the off season? And in fashion has been such a big part of that. So Dave, why don't you kick us off here with your your first pick. This is tough because on the one hand, it's fashion in sports have never been more connected than they are right now. But on the other hand, you don't want the recency bias of like, well, of course, I'm just gonna pick you know, this famous person who's

famous now. So I'm gonna go curveball and I'm gonna say well to Clyde Frasier, Oh yes, who had a very downtown or uptown like Harlem kind of aesthetic to his dress. Lots of lots of suits and big coats, and he still dresses amazing MSG network when he calls Nicks games. It was a seventies vibe that was unfettered, and he wasn't trying super hard to fit in and be corporate. He was gonna be Walt Clyde Fraser back then. Was everyone dressing like that or I don't think so.

I think they were in su Yeah, that's what he was wearing, like plaid since I Russell wasn't like a snappy dresser and like playing like Brooks brother off the rack. There were there were obviously people with style in that period. Spencer Haywood I think had a little bit of style and stuff, but you know, it wasn't to the extreme that it is today, So people like Walt Fraser would stand out. Yeah, and I love that he's held onto that and people when people like see him now like,

oh man, he dresses funny, I don't think so. I don't think that that's clownish. I think the clowney thing is when you're trying to do something to fit into the fashion world as opposed to dressing the way that is most comfortable for you. It has to look like it's effortless. There's a guy, God bless him in the NBA right now who I just feel like he is trying so hard every game and he just bricks every fit.

Kevin love n You see that when you see like a string of pictures and it's all Kith and it's like, oh, you clearly visited Kith and now you like this. Yeah, And they're like, I'll take all that, or can you guys send me your your your lot, your spring collection, and it's just like it's no effort none. Yeah, there are the dudes who really wake up every day think about what their fit is going to be, that go

out that they they're they're shopping in every town. They're talking to the designers, local people, even you know, Lebron made a point of getting to know people in that business. So John Elliott, who does a lot of his stuff, he and Lebron became friends way before John Elliott was famous. Uh. Tom Brown who did the suits for the cat of that season when they all wore the same suits in the playoffs, that was a relationship that Lebron created with

Tom Brown to be able to get those done. Kevin Love looks like I just I just need a truck full of like clean white Air Force ones and some sweatpants and like a big coat and I'm good And like that's not enough. Who are you? What are you trying to say about yourself? How are you expressing yourself through what you're wearing? Of the superstars in the NBA, so I guess I'm talking like all Star and above, how many of them do you think have personal stylists?

That's tough you know, I I back when I was a Bleacher Report during All Star in l A. I was talking to James Harden about this, and James Harden picks his own clothes. Yeah, he's not like I need somebody to buy this doesn't seem like someone who likes a lot of help. In general. He's got it. He doesn't need an assist here on what he's gonna wear. Um. Yeah, I think I think the ones that you could tell which ones are like I'm doing this myself, Russ P,

J Tucker, Hardened, Lebron obviously. I think somebody even like Jordan Clarkson probably does a lot of his shopping himself. Swaggy P did a lot of shops maybe well no, actually I don't know who has some like I almost think even a stylist aside Lebron probably Couz. Probably a lot of them them then have like a personal jeweler who they're saying this should be with, so like they're not doing everything head to toe Like accessories are hard.

That's like, actually, when if I ever get styled for anything, that's I'm like, I can put stuff together, but like all of these finishing touches, that's like very very difficul accessories are the things that really do matter more than than you think. Um, I have a feeling and not knowing for sure, but I think a lot of these people probably have, you know, people coming and saying here's what this designer's spring summer book is, or this is this designers and then they go through it there like

I like this happens like this. I think they have opinions. What a dream. Th'angel Russell is another guy who dressed the super well. But then there's some guys who I feel like are just like picking up a bal Main T shirt like the com de Garson converses with the hearts on him and it's like that's it. Like, no, you can't just wear a big graft and some ripped jeans and call it a day, like try It is interesting to that, Like I think the NBA lad this wave and then the NFL has caught up to it

in some extent. But like when you think about the NFL, you know, you think of Cam first, really, but like a lot of the superstars in the NFL don't because a lot of the superstars in the NFL are quarterbacks, and so Cam is sort of the exception, but there's not a lot of like Drew Brees is not turning a look he's dressing probably really because he has money he can buy expensively, and Tom Brady does, but like he's also married to the most famous model in the world,

so that's kind of like a Tom Brady is like a serial killer. I'm sorry he's There's not a lot of NFL players that I can think of that are like constantly dressing crazy that are superstars. Odell Beckham is really the best dressed guy in the NFL, and I'm sure we'll get to him later. But yeah, they're even Cam. I feel like Cam is trying too hard. Of course, I think he started off. He dresses like a Peewee's Playhouse character, but it's something that like we look forward to. Yeah,

it's fun, and he's not taking cues from anyone else. No, there's a couple of stores in l a that I feel like carry a lot of the stuff that he buys. But it's just like, man, what are you the Marlborough man got hit by a bunch of glitter. It's also interesting to see you as a friend like this um that I'm like, you're so hot, Like you're you're almost like fighting against being hot a joke. It is Joala, I'm Thomas who but but like WIT's not dressing as crazy.

Win has a personal style, maybe one of the best styles in comedy. It fits him. What he's doing is a thing that he does and it's it's within. I feel bad we're talking about somebody people don't know. But he was on the podcast. Okay, Okay, good. So if you're a listener, you're a fan, you know. But it fits into what's fashion right now because there's you know, there's a heavy skateboarding influences, workwear influences in fashion right now. But it's still him and he's always been that guy,

so it's not like he's following trends. Okay, so my first pick, I guess this is a bit of a riddle. I have two people on my list that have the same last name, but they are not related. Okay, I'm gonna not guess about the way Russell Westbrook and Brian Westbrook. Um so my first person is Phil David Beckham. Everyone on my list is hot, and that's kind of yeah,

go ahead, I want to hear your reason. Um, I think of David Beckham as like a fashion icon now and like soccer stars are sort of traditionally the hottest, and maybe that's because they're the most famous, but like they are just these international hot babe superstars. He's also married to a Spice girl. She has her own clothing line. He has done lots of partnerships with designers. He sits front row at New York Fashion Week, Paris Fashion Week.

Like he is now transitioned from like I was a famous soccer player, I live in l A. And now I'm just kind of a hot, fashionable dad icon. And that's why I just you look at him. I mean he's modeled, like he is fashion well also being and I guess yeah, I remember just seeing him sort of starting to pop up in you know, in pop culture or just like I always thought it, like David said this, he's just hot, So what a great start. It makes it a lot easier to be a fashion guy if

you're super hot. So like if he's wearing the newest, latest or hot like or unique outfit, I'm still just being like, damn, great abs and cheekbones, my man, where do I pick those up? You know? And he's also aged, but like still looks hot, but he's also I think his fashion has evolved, not in the way where you seeing a magazine when they're like dress for your twenties, dress when you're fifty, Like it's not that cut and dry.

But I do think his fashion has evolved over time, and now you look at him and you're just like, you look like a movie star. Yeah. Well yeah he You know, he was actually one of the first soccer players to really transcend and be a fashion person, because before, especially in England, it was just like working class blokes, you know, eating fish and chips, smoking cigarettes at halftime. Uh. Then he comes along and is like, I can be continental, I can be European. I can go play in France,

I can go play in Italy or in Spain. Uh you know, I can do all these things and be a be a celebrity. And so now the soccer guys are like the truly hottest athletes. Yeah it's great. You know, they got the abs, they they've got the great cheek bones. Everything looks Christiano Ronaldo sometimes I feel like he's too European to the point where it looks like he's just made of cocaine. But at the same time, like the guy when he really tries, he looks great well. And

two things about Beckham. Two is that I feel like the tattoos, like that was kind of rebellious, but yet it still has an essence of elegance to him. Another thing too, that he does really well. I feel like is mixing athletic wear and like um luxury, so who we're like a track jacket under a blazer. And I mean, I'm sure maybe someone did it before him, but man, he was pulling that look off, which just sounds insane

to me. He was one of the first dudes wearing like a truly expensive like cashmere coat sweat he is he is sort of like what Tom Brady it's trying to do Tom, but he doesn't have the soul of a fashionable person, right. And I also think Victoria Beckham

is extremely fashionable. Her line is so beautiful, makes incredible things like they they're just as a duo, so pleasing to look at their kids I think are famous and models and in the fashion world, like he's almost fully just transitioned out of sports into just kind of the l a world. Let me just say, like, you don't have to be hot to be fashionable. Absolutely, you know who one of the one of the most fashionable people in Hollywood is Adam Pally. Adam Paley dresses super well.

I can see I can see why you like that. He does not brick fits. He's a good yes, but he's but he's not like an athlete. I'm saying that you don't have to be in like immaculate shape. You can just be a regular person. Just know what suits you. Yeah, he's a handsome man, but he's not David Beckham like. Yeah, And I'm just saying to be on my list, Adam's gonna be Listen, he's on an athlete. What do you mean act? Have you seen those as cats? That is kind of like a sport, a comedy sport, you know,

comedy sports. Greatest athletes with a comedy sports background. He didn't have to be hot to be on my list, but apparently you did. Well. I don't have any ugly people. Okay, you go. Or my next guy or my first pick is Dion Sanders. Wow. I just think he I mean, I love it. I mean people his draft night and just every time he every time a camera was on him, I thought it was some looks because I keep feeling okay. So look up Dion draft Night. It's kind of infamous.

He add the Jerry curl he had. He wore full wind suit, and I know, like you know and Draft night pete players go, oh, I need to wear a unique suit or I need to wear the nicest suit ever. But he wore like ninety gold chains, giant sunglasses, wind break. I think he was wearing when these wind breaker suits. And I'm still seeking out I type in vintage Nike track suit on eBay almost every day, trying to find these suits. And I think, um, in addition to that

sort of signature look, he has the pinstripe suit. Whenever I think of a guy who could pull off a pin stripe suit, I think Dion. I think he's still doing that. Um. And I just think that he was always taking opportunity or just realize the opportunity that what is this saying like look good, play good, And I just think he was always a guy that embodied that before a lot of players. Now you don't agree, no, I think sometimes like I have a look up right now that is a like a plaid tweed that I'm

guessing he wore around Christmas. I think is a classic but also fun look that like he can pull off. But he also is then doing some really like this is a bad suit. Oh yeah, we're talking about classic. We're kind of a classic Dion though, Yeah, classic Dion, Primetime Dion. He was one of the Look at this top of this, you gotta go back to the nineties. Yeah, and I think he was wearing like you would wear a blazer without a shirt underneath, and I see players

trying that now hammerd did that. Like that was the thing that I think was the best about Dion is Dion was one of the first guys to bring hip hop into sports, like truly bring that kind of you know, b boy aesthetic to sports. Nobody was really doing that before he did on the level that he did. And to be such a huge star playing two sports at the same time like he was, he was incredibly influential.

And look at this he's wearing. He's got this Versacey shirt on, Like, yeah, some of these looks I'm really into. I guess what I'm just having to realize about my self is that I really hate those nineties or early two thousand pinstripe suits like burn that well. I think though it was people looking at Dion and going I should do that, and it wasn't working for them. And again it was he wasn't working for my goodness, I

think you're wrong. Well, I like a lot of the looks I just saw, like a leather like jump suit he had that was really cool, and I I almost like his look better when he was a player. When you're a commentator, so I'm talking commentator and that's is like garbage. He looks like an old man. Yeah, he's not trying to step out anymore. Okay, I'm that's that's sorry, c J. Sorry, I try. I just don't like his commentation.

Another thing too, I think a signature look of his is like the goal like a gold chain while playing the gold chain like dangling, very sexually attractive to that. Finding ways to to like still be fashionable mid game is like and now you got guys wearing watches. D On and Michael Irvin, Andre Rison, all those dudes from the nineties are more influential on wide receivers, cornerbacks and like today than I think people realize. Yeah, like they

change the whole aesthetic of the sport. I say, more crop to jerseys, did it well, I that's we don't need. I don't need more zeke for other tummies. All right, well let's take a break, right and we'll be back with our guests Dave Shilling, and we are back with our next round. That first round a little controversial, c J and I almost got I don't think controversial. Hey, we'll talk about it off the podcast. I want to get into it work now. Um No, we came to

an understanding. That's what marriage is about. Marriage is about compromise. We likedon pre commentator and that's something that we came to as a couple. Okay, you worked it out on the air, which I think is great for the audience to learn about how marriages. Yeah. I've been to therapy in two weeks, so this is therapy, isn't it. I can't wait to read the reviews after this app what's wrong with her story of the podcast? Divorce him and marry me? Yeah? You know what, I do get some

of those. I'm sure a lot of lucky guy. Actually, if you saw we had to put up with, you wouldn't want to be a part of this. I have seen in your tweets where you like make fun of me, like for fun. Then guys are like, yeah, you should leave them, or like they're like, oh, this is my opportunity. I'm gonna really push for this, Like he's simping for you. Yeah, I love it because I watched I watched Curb two oud. Have you considered a financial slave? What does that mean? Uh?

They don't ever get anything sexual from you. They just derive pleasure from giving you money. Yeah, that's a sugar daddy. But a sugar daddy sugar daddy implication is sexual. Okay, this is literally just I will then mow you or I'll send you a check. I just want to know that you're taking care of Okay, I mean I wish I had that kind of money to be well, no, you want a third person. He's talking about bringing in

an external cold third. Yeah, I could be a part of the situation still, as long as you just keep your distance and don't pose in any photos on Instagram, don't mention him. Just like what about this podcast? Check back in a few years, just next week, say we're divorce. Nobody asked to know. No one's going to check the record. And then I'm just addressing like Dion Sanders on Draft Night that Okay, Dave, who is your next pick? I

don't want to go too far back again. I'm gonna go with somebody contemporary because I do think that this is the best time for a men's fashion in a long time, especially in sports. So I'm gonna go Russell Westbrook. It's hard not to because he is he can dress up when he has to be conservative, you know, kind

of classy Russell Westbrook. But when he goes and does something like wearing the photographer's vest, which is I still think one of the most iconic moments career fishing vest after God, But I didn't buy the exact thing, and I think that's why. You know, it's what do I take from it? Not only was that ridiculous look, it's an official photographer and everyone assumed he was clowning KD for taking photos as a hobby. That was such a weird, But that's what sports media does as they try to

connect the dots too much and it's just embarrassing. But I love that stuff. Give me that sweet tea, baby, and rest is a little bit of like a fun trolly and you know, like that video that he post said the day Kadi left, like he does go after, especially Kadi because kd like he can't help himself. Katie is one of the worst fashion one of the worst dressers of all time in the NBA. It's so bad. It's him in Jordan's like neck and neck for worst fits.

When we were like picking this one, I'm like, we're going to have to get into some of the worst. Absolutely, yeah, heaven love that history is rich to him. But Jordan, let's talk more about Russell because obviously he's one of the first things that comes to mind. But and we said, probably said some of those rules already. But yeah, what is it about russ It's not that it's crazy, it's

that I don't like, these are looks I didn't know existed. Yeah, he's working on a different level of creativity, in a different level of comfort in himself. So that is what it is. Is he will he'll take that walk and all the photographers will take pictures of him, and he knows he's dressed like a fucking clown. But because he's got the sunglasses tilted just the right way, a most smirk on his face, It's like, damn, that guy is awesome.

His beautiful, immaculate body. Uh, like just like when he'll show like abs, it's like I want to do that. Oh wait, I can't. Yeah, I simply can't. Like he's so aware of himself and so comfortable in himself and has no concerns for whether people like or don't like what he's wearing. And when I look at Tom Brady again, one of the shittiest dressers in all of sports, he's got that look on his face like, I know, I'm wearing something very expensive right now, and you guys probably

think it's pretty cool that I'm wearing a turtleneck. Can you believe it? Wearing a turtleneck? What a choice? That is? Like a funk off, Like Tom, you're hot, you don't need to like do. I mean? I think one of the worst fashion choices he ever made was that Make America Great Again hat? Yeah, of course, what the red doesn't look good on you at all? But the Russell Westbrook thing too, it's like him, his strut is so much part of the outfit. Yeah, it's the way he

carries himself. I think he's the reason for why when TNT games happen or ESPN games, we cut to them walking into the arena because it all starts there. That the mood, just the way the dressing up for the game is such a big part of it. And Russ is, Yeah, Russ is the reason for league fit account, the league fits account scale hype and league fits would not exist without people like Russell West But I mean, now you've gotten to the point where the athletic has somebody to

cover fashion. You know, the Sports Illustrated started doing the like fifty most Fashionable Athletes in America things. Yeah, it's it's HQ sports. Has he always dressed this way? Like what was he doing this in college? No? No, I mean you can't like the perfect storm for the the athlete, the musician, the actor is good looks um, exquisite bodies and the access to and a lot of times they get stuff for free. People are begging you to where

their ship. Yeah, but that's what it is. It's like, I mean, because I remember are We've had Josiah who played with I think he either played or was around when Westbrook was at U c. A. And Russ was a quiet kid and you know, he was just playing you know, college basketball. But then you got the NBA and money started coming in and he realized, oh, This is how I've always wanted to express myself. Hardens the

same way. You know, Harden didn't know that he was going to have that crazy beard and like be an icon when he was playing in high school. He didn't have that crazy beard. No, he did not. It was like a regular dude and unlocked it truly unlocked something. That's the beauty of age and success. Like I feel happier dressing the way that I want to dress because I'm thirty five years old and well, I called myself in middle age. I just while I'm in Hollywood physically

edit out. Can you believe? Yeah, I'm years old? Um? Yeah, no, that's a great point. It's like it's almost like the final chair or like peace in your in your game is fashion and how it's your character. Who am I on the court? Um, the same guy who dresses wild? Well, it also looks so cute when he's dressed like that

and then he's with his like cute little kid. Yeah, I feel like that's like such a fun Like I follow this account called Delfs of Disneyland, and it is like it's like fun to see a hot dad with their kids. I will say that the best accessory that I've ever gotten in my life is my cute as kid? Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. How are you implementing your fashion sense on your kid? I do my best. I mean he lives with my ex wife, so we have to fight over like I'm gonna have him dressed like this,

and I'm gonna him dressed like this. But there are things that he has in his wardrobe where I can kind of like he has a really cool like jean jacket that he looks awesome, like some like fur on the top. But it's it's a process. It'll get to arm. I mean, he'll take a little bit from his mom and a little bit from you, and then he'll have his own true style. Yeah, he has to find himself. I can't force anything on him. He has to be exposed to everything and then develop preferences from there. I

used to dress so similar to my mom. I mean when I was a child, she would dress us in the same clothes um and then obviously youngest and only girl, and then but even in like high school, it was almost interchangeable, just sort of like the palate and the

structure and everything we liked. And now I don't think we dress similar at all, like, And some of that could be the fact that I haven't lived in Indiana in almost fifteen years, but some of it is just like, Oh, you set me down on this path of liking Pastel's and being willing to wear bright colors. But then I've just like kind of kept going and almost left her back in pastel Land. I think you made the right choice.

She dresses, so I love how she dresses too. She actually wears a lot of the same clothes that my friends do. Like I'll see a friend, I'm like, my mom has that, and they're like, what the funk? And I'm like, but she's she She's in the Talbot's fashion show at the mall. You know, she dresses really well. But we just I thought we would always like the same things, and at some point in my twenties we

branched off from each other. You've had different experiences. How you dress is also connected to who you are as a human being. And that's again why Russell Westbrook is a better dresser than Tom Brady, because he's expressing a need of creativity and Tom Brady is wearing fucking tom

Ford because it's expensive and it sucks. That's why I you know what, I love sneakers and all that stuff, and people are like, oh, did you get those new off whites or while, But I'm like, there's just a whole different reason why I'm in this, and it's not to get the most expensive things. It's like that the reason why I'm buying off eBay and not going in around two because I need to find something that it means something to me, not and it's never gonna mean

that it's the most expensive thing. Yeah, I don't give a funk about the Balenciaga triple S sneaker. And when I see people wearing those, or like the Louis Vuitton sneakers, a big crazy ones, I'm like, you're only doing that because you can not because it matters to you that that is where I have a pair, which on the cement ones. The first ones, no, these were like probably

a year or two and yeah, no I don't. I had the Moon the easy one Moon Rocks, and then I bought them right when I got the Bleach Report gig. And then I moved to New York and I hung out in Soho wearing them and I saw every little Asian teenager. Oh I'm not different. This is this means nothing. Yeah, that's that is the lesson that you learn when you were just following the hype too much. The there's no there's no destination with the hype. If you buy pieces

that you like because you like them. If you find designers like I have specific designers and companies that I like to buy clothes from. Know they fit and I'm, you know, gonna get them tailored as best I can, and I know that they're the stuff that they do every season is going to be stuff that I like. If it's my aesthetic, we're not worthy of having you here giving all of this knowledge to the Well, no, just pay me next time. You know what there is

ah there. We did have a review where someone was very not very upset, which is said, I had a bias against the Patriots, so I can't wait for them to hear you. I also fucking hate the Patriots. That's the thing. Like the review was like the female host really hates the Patriots, but then everybody else it's like newsflash, the entire country, but New England fucking hates the Patriots. And you don't know that, then you need to take a flight to Cincinnati St. Louis talked to four people.

We don't like the team, but you know you're getting mad the same reason why you know the Indianapolis thing. No, that's that's totally differ Oranges, c J. We are I'm punching up when you when you go to the Patriots, they have one everything they have been. I mean, this Astros thing is so crazy because it's like, dokay, all right, well that'll be another one. Okay, so my number two picks, I will present this riddle to you again. I have two people on my list with the same last name,

but they are not related. Thank you. Yeah, okay. Adel is someone when there is like the SPS, you always are like, what is O'Dell gonna wear? He always looks great. He is experimenting with his hair, with his jewelry, with his tattoos, like everything that he is that is on his body or is a part of his body as a chance for him to make a fashionable statement. Friends with Anna Wintour goes to the met gallup like he has transcended sports. And I do like that. He is

probably the most fashionable NFL player. Um, the person that you like think of And I do think it was beneficial for him fashion wise that he was in New York for the first part of his career and Cleveland is not really a fashion capital. No, but you know what, I like cutting Zeus's hair? Is it or Samson whatever? Putting him in Cleveland Now that I'm realizing, yeah, it's messed up. It's like the worst of rich people from Cleveland.

They've got great taste. Yeah, my girlfriend's family is from Cleveland and they are totally not They do not dress well. But I had three sisters that were in my sotority. They were all from Cleveland, and they were like the first girls I ever knew that had razor phones. They dressed so in two thousand four, if you had a pink razor phone, it was like, yeah to Cleveland. Sorry, I cut you off. What were you saying? But he

lived in New York. I think that probably I'm just saying that when you're when you're living there and the media and you always talk about other on you all the time, I think he probably rose to that occasion to be like, I'll give you a little something to look at. You know. Who I like in Cleveland though, is Baker? No? You know why, because that's who he is, I know, but it's just not good. It works on it works like weird Detective. Yeah, it's like it's it's

home alone Dad co. But then with like a Chappelle character underneath. Yes, he reminds me of Um it feels like Shy a like Shy is a streetwear of God and he's dressing like, you know, an unemployed dad. And that's okay because that's what he core. It's like heavy, heavy normor. But sometimes with Baker, I'm like, is that on purpose? Yeah? Because then when you see him partying, he's almost wearing like vineyard vines. Yeah, like he kind it almost feels like it feels like he's trying to

kind of live in both worlds a little bit. So I mean, I would imagine having Odell around makes all of them want to step up their game. Um, except for that actually that got fired. Yeah, one of my Alma mentions, and I think I want to I want to bring it up because I think hairstyle is a big part of, you know, figuring out other ways outside of clothes really kind of takes part in your fashion.

His hairstyle is maybe one of the most iconic since like again, one of my picks Iver since corn Rows, like he created that hairstyle that every single kid up until like five, like CJ would be like, Oh, he's got the Odell. He's got the Odell. He's got that like every kid that they would like it. And it's like, you know, NFL players in the problem why NFL on social isn't as big as the n b A is because there weren't many highlights. He was a guy with highlights.

He was one handed catch Odell. He had signatures to him that most NFL players um never had and and some of that I thought you were going to say. What people knock on the NFL is lack of identity because they have helmets on and and it's a much bigger team, and that's just like not the sport. Odell is someone that you like, definitely know his identity and you also see him and I feel like every person in or out of sports is like, that's at least a recognizable person to be at the met Gala, that's

a big deal. My favorite Odell Beckham junior moment is still the met Gala where he was seated with Lena said he would never fuck me. I'm a pig. Well she made it seem like I have thoughts about this that I can't share on air, but she made it seem like he was so dismissive of her. Um, and it's like, yeah, he doesn't care. It's not his job to care about you. People are dismissive to me. Every day. I walked in this room and people were like, why

is he stop? Get out? Um. Yeah, but that's just so funny because she did position him as like almost godlike, like he is up here and I am down here, and that is because he has the swagger that most people lack. Try to carry yourself with some swagger and things will change. No, I love her. I was waiting to see I love girls. I'll tell you my thoughts about well, it'll be on the patreon um. But also, yeah, O'Dell's cleat game again a thing that hasn't really like

translated to NFL from the NBA. He's managed to do that. He's got his own the ear ring. Yeah, it's just

O'Dell is is an eye competent. It almost feels like not right to like pick him because it's so recent, but he's, like, I guess not that recently, has been doing it for almost what his consistency is what's most impressive, Like Dion was a great choice, but Megan, you made the right, the right, the right comment that Dion style has taken a massive dip since he started working for NFL Network because they need him to dress like a

dad who lives in Springfield, Massachusetts, having worked at NFL Network, and like we literally all have worked at the NFL BEFO. We've all worked at the same place. There's like this hallway where no, it's not bad, there's a hole. So like there is there's wardrobe at the NFL network. It's TV network, and so when there is Pro Bowl, Super Bowl, they have to pack up all of the suits and send them too, and they like fly on a plane

to Miami or wherever. And to walk down that hallway when there are like a hundred and fifty commentator suits is some and it's like actually fun to go through and be like, Okay, that's Dion's, that's Steve Mary, like you can try and pick what suit belongs with who, and then and then there's a woman's like locker room where we had our step and my I had like no stuff and I would go around and look at the other I was like, wow, she has like Louis

Vuitton slides, like everyone just had the coolest stuff. And I was like, renting the runway, that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that. I went to the Oscars one year and I got a rental text I look great. Oh, I mean I think we're in the runway. It's like truly changed at least how I spend my money because I'm the type of person where once I'm like photographed in something and it goes on Instagram in any way,

I don't like to wear it again. Or I wear it again, but I don't want to be photographed in it again. And you and I'm not saying photographed on the red carpet. I'm talking about me doing bar shows with no people, but there is a photographer, and I'm like, why didn't anyone tell me to wear makeup that I'm talking about? Like those photos are everywhere and it's like then it just looks like I wear the same four outfits all the time, which I do because I just

get comfortable. And then rent the Runway has helped me. Yeah, I do have a code. If you want to DM me, I'll give it to you. This I feel like this is a sponsorship waiting to happen. If you're listening Rents Runway. They're kind to me. Okay, they're good, excellent. I mean they mean gave me like one free spot. One. Sometimes I'll say it's being delivered, but it's not. No, it's oh, it actually comes pretty fast. Um, but it's great. I

really do love it. I feel like we should take a break and then because my number one pick was Russell Westbrook, so we'll admit my first one and then we'll just come back with my second one and then close this thing out. All right, We'll be right back and we're back at David's secret. Tell me after the show. After the show, so I will say mine again. I maybe I misinterpreted, but it's almost to me it's like the importance of this guy. It would hurt me. I

would regret not saying. But Alan Iverson, I think not the bet like not the best, but maybe the most important dresser in sports. He ran so everyone could run faster, almost like uh, if you guys don't remember his the way he dressed to games and around NBA functions, David Stern came up with a dress code that was clearly racist. Rest in peace. David Stern did a lot for the game, but this was one of the biggest mistakes. Um was him implementing a dress code that has since been changed.

I don't know was it because of Adam Silver or everyone was just like, no, this is racist, but um, because the way Alan Irison dressed, which was baggy shirts, jerseys, chains hats, they implemented this dress code that have it up here right now was created on October seventeenth, two

thousand five, and it read like this. No chains, pendants or medallion's weren't over closed, no sunglasses and buildings, no headgear of any kind, no jerseys unless approved by the team, and no headphones, which is I feel like that is the checklist of what you say every athlete going into a game now. I mean it also seems rude to headgear like the braces, Yeah, which you know who were wears braces a lot? Is Andre Drummond does he here? He had him most of the time I was in.

When did Harden get his teeth fixed? I don't know, Well, can't you just get veneers? He probably got well, but I guess if you're an athlete that could be troublesome because they pop out. Um. Growing up in Indiana at the time that Allen Iverson was like at his peak, the way people talked about him was so racist, so horrific, and like I only know it kind of in the last few years, like I've developed such an appreciation for him,

probably from like twenties on. And it was truly like we were being brainwashed against him because it was like, oh, he's selfish. Obviously the word thug was thrown around all the time. I think he's one of the people that made us realize that you cannot say that about people. It's so fucking racist and inappropriate. He he almost had to fight against the world just to be who he was.

My mom I remember went to Philly, uh my, my, My mom and dad had like a yearly trip and whenever we went to a new today, I went, oh, I have to buy something, and I still have this kind of what to buy something of, Like, however, I know that city, and I bought a reversible Champion Allen Iverson jersey, and my mom kept going, are you sure you want this? Are you sure? Like she loved Jordan because Jordan was such a like, you know, corporate cog but like she she felt that when I was like,

what this is insane? Why were all of her parents against? The answer? A little racist? I think it was, Yeah, it was racism. It was also you know, I think anytime somebody bucks the system, who plays outside of the rules, people are kind of like shocked. Madonna, it was a good example of someone who was over sexual sexual. Yeah, it's like, wow, she's not doing what she's supposed to do. Alan Iverson did not do what he was supposed to do.

He was himself, and I think he was pivot in the history of fashion in sports, not because he's such a great dresser, because as you pointed out, you know, he was just wearing baggy T shirts and baggy jeans and he looked like Nellie half the time, like whatever, who cares? Yeah, yeah, Nellie was biting Allen Iverson. But because he was himself. And then the NBA overreacted and created the dress code. NBA players had to start wearing suits, and oh suits, interesting, let's I guess I should learn

about suits. If I'm gonna have to wear a suit, let me learn about it. And some people didn't figure it out, like Tim Duncan, but Eventually it was like, Okay, maybe I can make something out of this and work around the dress code and still be myself without offending anyone. And then you get the combination of Iverson's individuality the NBA's restrictive dress code forcing you to wear you know, tailoring and men's wear, and now you have what you

have today. But it wouldn't exist without Alan Ivverson. And this is of a little bit of a walk. But I remember Irison, he was wearing Mitchell and Nest jerseys. Um, he was one of the guys who really really pushed that movement of other teams of you know, even though he's playing for the Sixers like other players players weren't other teams that were like, wait, what does he want to play for them? And it's just like no, these guys grew up loving sports, loving players and where. But

this is a little bit of a walk. But then so Mitchell and Nest jerseys were so big and people I just learned how Rich Paul and Lebron met selling jerseys out of a trunk for a site that I would look up distant replays the name of the site. I remember as a kid looking up word to buy Mitchell and Nesters and those distant replays he was selling.

He met Lebron met him as selling out of a trunk, and it's just like, wow, the clutch is now, Um, Like, I mean, did it would he have been selling those jerseys to Lebron if Iverson wasn't wearing you know, or fabulous and all these guys were wearing those jerseys And it's just crazy to think where it all started. But yeah, and Iverson, yeah I got I got Tiary. I just thinking about it, and and now what I love now about Iverson is just how much he still loves the game,

hugging everyone. He was so sad when Kobe died and they hated each other, and man, they went hard on each other, and he was still like that guy is my brother. I was talking about it last night. I think, you know, largely part of they never met each other in the finals again, like they were they were rivals for that. They were like the biggest arrivals during the time that they met in the playoffs. Um, but since then it was just like, we're clearly just the best

in the game right now. And they were wearing each other's shoes while they were still playing and yeah, I just love Iverson just showing so much respect to Kobe, to other players in the game right now. I love I've been trying to make it a name of him just hugging everybody. Yeah, he's like the elder statesman of the NBA. Yeah, I will say we uh. There was a project I was working on where we tried to hire him and it was a very short shoot and he um needed requested a lot of money. I think

he's doing great. I was like, good for you. There's other people and you're like, that's your right, Oh boy, okay, um all right, so you want my number one? And then it will say, okay, wow, I may be the only one picking a woman. Okay, correct, unless you pick the same person I picked, and then I had to pick another person. I'm no, we can have overlap because that means that that person probably is the greatest. My number one pick is Serena Williams. Wow, Okay, good choice.

I think in the same way that iver sent I mean the way people have talked about Serena's body since she was a preteen, even up until now, and some of it positive, some of it. It's Tennis is a sport where like your body is really on display when you are a female tennis player, and she has kind of embraced that in the most beautiful, confident and also

sexy way. I also think post motherhood, like her fashion is, she's really the first athlete I knew of that was like going with designers to make everything she's wearing that she's competing in, Like she goes to Nike and designs

that stuff with them, then has her own line. Also huge into the fashion scene, very much a part of New York Fashion Week and all of all of that, and obviously has money and the beautiful shape that she has, Like I remember seeing her wedding dress and she took such an incredible risk with this cape that was all beated. Like she just does sort of whatever she wants, despite the fact that even at a young age people were

telling her to stop doing that. Yeah, no, she's very chic, but she also can can work in the streetwear world and do stuff and like doing Off White collaboration are probably my only ones I really actually like, yeah, it's a it's a credible what she what she's accomplished, and yeah, it's also to do that well, people are constantly taking a dump. I mean the friend open wouldn't let her wear a body suit that was help trying to help her not have blood clots that almost killed her during childbirth.

Like she's still even the most decorated female athlete will possibly go down as the greatest athlete of all time, is still having to fight with people constantly to just live, to just exist in this world that seems like it is almost always trying to push her out even though

she's the greatest that has ever done it. Yeah, it is crazy because we talked about like Irison, like maybe that was like a couple of years ago, you can't wear that, but Serena has clearly proven to let her do things, and people are still like finding reasons to say that, And their reason was like this is like her body. It turns us on. People were not going

to be able to like gus. That's why I loved seeing her like in the Lemonade video, you know, like, yeah, you you have an incredible body that every man in the world is like talking about. Celebrate it, and like you are standing next to Beyonce, also one of the most beautiful, like sexy women in the world, and you're both just being who you are and it's so hot, and Serena just has to constantly fight against people and

it does it with such grace and kindness too. Yeah, there's I think swagger is a part of this too. It's power and it's it's confidence. But her impact in Iverson's impact are just as important as what they wear, like the fact that they wore what they wore or where what they wear is the statement itself. And I think that's why those two definitely belong as your number ones and why I picked my number one. This is gonna be controversial because I'm leaving awful lot of people

know Lebron. There's there's tons of people who were great dressers. Lebron is one of the best. But I have to go with Megan Rapino. Okay, at one point I thought about doing the entire women's but she blew up during that World Cup starting to dye her hair pink. That became, you know, such an iconic fashion statement, the colored short hair.

But then what she has been able to do as an LGBT, a lesbian woman, um mixing men's where you know, women's clothes, you know, having this androgeny that is probably uncomfortable for a lot of people also very sexy, but incredibly sexy. She can be you know, in the in the body issue of of ESPN the magazine, and and you know her and Sue Bird stepping out and stuff, and like how they've been able to become fashion icons.

I think it is incredibly important. And we're gonna look back on that World Cup and her specifically her part in that as you know, a turning point I think, and how people perceive LGBT Americans. And she's just a fucking great dresser. She always looks cool, and she always has that swagger and she knows she's the best. She knows that she has power. And that is what's attractive to people when they look at someone who's wearing clothes,

is they know they look good. They're comfortable looking good, and they have a certain gravitas that other people don't have. So great, you have expensive clothes, but what are you?

How are you wearing it? It's so modern too, And I think sometimes we think of female athletes as like the hairs in a ponytail, and that's like they're just like not, they're like tom that there stead of get pushed into that tomboys staring exactly, and she is kind of flipping that of being like, I can be androgynous, but it's still so feminine and it's also very sexy in a way that I don't think we have seen as a culture maybe ever, not from an athlete, No,

not from a female. I mean, Billy Jeane King didn't didn't step out as as a fashion plate, you know. Yeah. The amazing thing is that Megan Rapino can be that and can be a media superstar and a fashion icon and be who she is, and there's a lot more of us celebrating it than being like, you look weird, Like we're like, hell yes, So yeah, her and Sue Berd like the photo shoots that they've been doing, and I was wanting I got to look back and see

if Super was doing before they're dating. But like, clearly Sue Bird's fashion is like just taking another step um with them being together and even her shoe game, like Nike is releasing Super Kyrie's because of her her fashion. I think they're probably one of the top three sports power couples right now. Yeah, it would it would be hard to to claim that w NBA players were on league fits before this all happened, and now they're like, well, I guess we've got to start putting w NBA players

on leak. Al right, well, uh, do you want to say any honorable mentions? I know you mentioned I think we all. Yeah, I didn't put Lebron on because I thought someone else would say him. Yeah, um, so sorry we left you. He's just gonna be on so many lists of the shorts are so cool and like created so many moments like that was like a bit forever. Yeah. I had Agasy, Yeah, I had p J. Tucker, and I had kind of just like an up and comer shy. We mentioned, yeah, oh Kelly, you bray on that honorable

mentions list. But we'll see what they end up doing. They haven't been doing it as long as russ Uh and James and all those other guys this winning. I think Kuzma will be fun to watch. I like the stuff he does. I love his hair. The one baseball player I will I will call out as Matt Camp everybody else that's like a clown just track. I just don't even think I really ever see that. I feel like I mostly see them in baseball uniforms because they do like the post games in them still, don't they Yeah,

or just like a T shirt and sweatpants. Christian Yellow is trying really hard, but he just looks like Tom Brady. He just looks like he's expresses Man of the Year or something. Yeah, there's definitely hockey players that do it and trying, but he looks um sort of like they are cooler than us. It's kind of the soccer thing. It's like, yeah, you guys, you've got a lot going. Yeah, some of the Russian dudes are trying, but there is there is that element of like Canadian ruggedness that feels

kind of tacky. Still, Like p K Cuban is really trying, but every time he goes out he's wearing some sort of like large brimmed hat that I feel like should have like salsa in the top and chips around it. He's but he's trying good for The hats are tough. The hats are when someone is doing a hat, well, you're like, yeah, p J Tucker, PJ Tucker always rocks the hat. Well. I mean that guy is if he was a bigger star, we'd be talking about him more. It's like the real heads than you know, he's my

number one NBA crush. It's a good choice. A lot of women and men probably agree with you. Thank you, welcome. All right, Well, Dave, where can people find you? I am at Dave Underscore shilling on Twitter, and uh, this will be where I announced this. I'm starting a sports interview podcast. I'm very excited about this. I'm gonna be interviewing some of the biggest stars in sports and uh, you know, I hope people tune in when when that comes out. But it's it's gonna be you know, top

level people. This isn't like you know, it's gonna be incredible. I can't over sell how important this is gonna be. It's going to change my life and we'll probably change yours if you listen. Wow, definitely will I can't wait forthcoming forthcoming. Follow me on Twitter and you'll find out. Um and if you guys could rate interview it, that would be amazing. I If you review and you say something mean, I'll probably talk about it, because I do

go through and read them all. If you say something nice, read the nice ones, I'll probably talk about it too. So yeah, we just really love to read things that are about us specifically. That's like really one of my thinks. Something that the three of us can all agree on a review, how to tweak it. I wouldn't. It wasn't because it's about me, because I want to make the product better for you guys. Nope, I just want to read positive negatives about me. Dave, thank you so much.

I feel like we're truly not worthy of all of the information you brought to us. No problem. It was a pleasure. And I do feel like I overdressed. No, you didn't, but you know I do that a lot. I think you probably just woke up earlier than c J and I did six o'clock in the morning. Maybe. No, no, no, you inspire us. You inspire us in so many different ways. All Right, thank you for listening. We'll see you guys next time. The Greatest is a production of iHeart Radio.

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