This is pod popular podcast for the people, the Great Loved Bates, It's the Great Love Debates, Degreat Love Debates, It's a Great Love to ba Hey, everyone, quick little prologue to this one. I'm recording this in the summertime. Summer sometimes summertime is known as rerun season. This isn't necessarily a rerun. It's a revisiting of an episode that I released three years ago.
A little over three years ago from the time that I am speaking right now and three years ago, the world was in a weird, weird place. And one of my favorite episodes that we do on this show is a feature called X's and h So we have not done one in a while, and I'm going to release one that we did once before for two reasons. First of all, it is co hosted by my friend Jilly Kimmel, Jimmy's
Jimmy's sister, who's just as talented and just as funny. And secondly, when I recorded this, I remember she came into the studio and she had just gotten something called a COVID shot. She was felt so liberated because she's like, it's a life changer for me, and we can debate what that did for anybody overall, but it was a different time then. A lot of people were revisiting old relationships, which is one of the themes of this
episode. I think you're gonna enjoy it. If you have heard it before, that means you are a very, very loyal listener of The Great Love Debate because it's over probably three and a half years ago, and I really appreciate that. If you have not heard this one before, oh boy, are you gonna like it. So, without further ado, here we go, Hi again, I wants Brian Howie. Welcome to The Great Love Debate, the world's number one dating and relationship podcast since twenty fifteen. You guys
have been waiting for this episode for a long long time. We haven't done it in a while. It's time to play one of our favorite things around here x's and uh ohs. And if you guys, let me talk about why why this one's going to be really good. It's because over the last year, a lot of people have been spending either way too much time communicating with their exes or thinking about their exes, and a lot of that was because of COVID and people got bored and they were shut down and they're either
reminiscing or thinking about things or whatever. So if you guys don't remember what exes and u oh's is, it's where we ask you guys to send us in emails some of you send them you a Facebook or whatever, that if you had one more thing to say, one more conversation to have with your ex in search of the elusive closure, this would be the thing you wanted
to say. And you guys sent us some crazy fucking shit, like you got the stuff that you guys are thinking about in terms of your exes, the stuff that you guys hold on to, the stuff that you want to know, is really nuts. So I sifted through a bunch of them. But I always have to have a pro to do this. The reason we don't do this more often is because I don't. I don't have a worthy co host all the time in the house to handle it. But fortunately I
have somebody well I have some access to. Before she flees to California, we're taping this in Arizona, but she's she's one of the only people leaving Arizona for California. Everybody else from California is moving here. She's a comedian, she's a bon vivante. She's known as Jilly Pie. Back by popular demand, Jill Kimmel, I have known as Jilly Pie. Thanks for letting everybody know. Yeah, she's back, probably like five or six episodes ago.
And people are like, you need to have her back on, and I'm like, I don't want to have her back on to talk about her personal life. I need to have her back on to talk about your personal life. So this is so much better like this, I want to end up in tears. I might, depending on how deep I get into character, I m'd end up in tears. Here. We'll see. So you are you? Are? You? Do you understand the rules here? You understand how this works? I do? But maybe should you explain it for
those? So I'm going to so I have three that we chose that were from the guys, and you have three that we chose that are from the girls. You are going to read those to me as if you were this TROUBLEDX girlfriend. I'm going to answer them as if I were their boyfriend, and vice versa, and you can you can take whatever tone you want with them. I don't care. You can say you're an idiot fuck off.
I don't care how you handle this. I don't know how much you get caught up in character, and if something triggers you inside, have as it. So I do get caught up in characters. So I feel like I'm gonna just kind of do this, you know, like one of those mediums
or somebody would just kind of open your brain to the vibe. And I'm gonna, like when you read a letter from real people to me, I'm going to try to like get into why I really think that the girlfriend may have done this whatever the question is right, And and some of you sent in like three pages. Some of you were like, this is not therapy.
Some of you were like three thousand words on it, and I'm like, you're mad, right, So if this is the last thing you wanted to say to your ex and it was like three thousand words, you might want to get an editor because they don't want to hear it and it's not gonna help. Yeah, I know they really are like, oh my god, this is so get to the point. Your ex has a date, so they need to get on with it. So you the jugular, So would you rather serve or receive? I will receive, you will receive name
that tune. Okay, there we go. This one is from Jonathan from Duluth, Georgia. And let me spell Jonathan out for you, the one because I have a brother named Jonathan, so how does he spell it the right way? Okay? J O h n A T t h o N. There's like three errors in there. I'm gonna just tell you she broke up with you. Yeah, you want to pain in the ass, Like, why wouldn't you change that? It's Jonathan. It's a lot of non traditional spell and I checked it because I was like, oh, maybe it's
a typo, but no, it was the email address on it. J O h n A T t h o N. You went wrong like three different ways or your parents? Did you know what though? Maybe if since it's his email was did he write his name like that at the bottom or is this like the whatever Jonathan at something? No, it was a Jonathan dot like something with his last name. You know who you are. Let me look at let me just see you want to say it John at thon? Maybe maybe it's like a running joke, you know how some people are
like let's raise money at the Jonathan. Yeah, Well, my little brother always says it's th h a N. It's Jonathan. I'm not a race. It's not Jonathan, it's j O n A t h a N. That is the right way, Yes, I know that's the right and and people who do that. I brought this up on the podcast before. If you spell your name, I'm not gonna say in correctly, but non traditionally,
you have to give people a break if they fuck it up. Sorry, if you're Britney with like silent Stephanie with an F N a pH, you're gonna have to cut some people some slack and also cut the shit. Okay, so this is Jonathan from Duluth, Georgia. You said I made you understand what a healthy relationship could feel like, that you were tired of dating assholes and narcissists and I was the first guy who ever made you feel special. And then after nine months you not only break up with me,
but I hear you went back to your ex. Were you lying to me or lying to yourself? I wasn't lying to you, Jonathan. I did mean, are you gonna laugh or are you gonna let me talk? Because this is kind of what you did the whole nine months? Sy Okay, are you are you gonna let me talk? Let's talk, okay, because this is what you did to me the whole nine months. You would laugh.
You did make me feel special at first, but then you made it like everything I said you would laugh, and and I did feel special, like, oh, he thinks I'm interesting and fun, And then it just became like you're not ever serious about anything, and I felt like you weren't serious about me. You just laugh everything off and oh this is fun. And at first, yeah, it seems like light and exciting, but then you know, you get a few months in six seven, and you start
to realize I miss like the real life, the reality. I miss someone having an argument with me because they don't think I'm right about something, and you just agreed with me about everything. And I don't need a yes man in my life. I need a real man. And I'm sorry that I went back to the ex, but really being with you made me see that maybe some of the stuff I was doing in my ex relationship was what was wrong. And I did grow from being with you. I did learn things,
but also what I learned was that I really missed my ex. And I don't want to tell you this, like this way, but I'm just gonna we're gonna be getting married in a few months. See, there you go, there you go. See that took oak by Jonathan. That was very very good. Oh wow, a couple of things here, Okay, go on. So now we're out of character. I think, yeah, what a lot of people do. So, Jonathan, she broke up with you. It has nothing to do with them. So it wasn't like you
or them. She didn't want to be with you or anyone or anyone at that point. And a lot of times when people are like I think it makes the guy lazy. When the girls, like when the girl says something like, oh my god, everybody else was such an asshole and you're so wonderful, it makes the guy sort of take his foot off the gas a little bit, like, at least I'm better than those guys. She's like, the bar was so low that they don't have to really try to be
way better. And you know, he might have slipped back into that. I don't know, you know, you know, you never know, Like I actually think maybe the ex saw her happy, saw her like like thriving and flourishing, and maybe he saw the error of his ways. Could be like changed and came back and apologized, and that's all she really wanted. She didn't want Jonathan nice guy. She wanted her ex to be a nice guy to her right. Yes, I understand that. Another podcast we produce
around here is called what's it called? It's on the Wall Flirt with Tawny Blake. She did she look that one up because she just did an episode about narcissism and a lot of times every girl's like, oh my god, my ex boyfriend was a narcissist. Don't It's a lazy code word that everybody used. And she took a deep dive on and it was really good if
you want to, if you want to look into that. But a lot of times people bad mouth their exes as an indirect way to make you feel It's almost like I'm complimenting you by picking on them, and maybe when they get some distance from that, those people really weren't so bad. I don't know. Yeah, Or it's a way to bring up what you want a relationship without so much just going this is what I want in a relationship.
I'm not telling you what I need or what I want. I mean, I'm not like I'm just saying that my ex was this way and it's an easy way to not just come out and say this is what I want. I was, actually, I'm talking to somebody, and like he always makes jokes about different things, and like I was on my way over here actually today and he sent me a picture of himself driving in the car and I
was like, oh, and I took picture of myself. I said same, and he like zoomed in on this one little gray hair that I had and like sent it back to me and I was like, and then he's like, your eyes are beautiful, and I go, you know what. I was like, we haven't even met. We're just like talking like are you is insults? Like the way you go because and in the past, I would have just been like, oh my god, thing is a strategy, and I thought, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.
I'm not allowing that to happen to me. I'm not gonna take that. And I said something I spoke up for myself for once. Maybe in the past I may have just shimmied something in like oh yeah, my ex was always criticizing. Now I'm gonna go I don't like that you're criticizing. Yeah. Yeah, And as we ask on all these what do you want to hear here, Jonathan, what is your do your expect to be like, oh my god, you're right, I forgot that. I said that.
Come on over, yeah, I mean what are you hoping for the answer? And the problem is that people can say things to you and me it and then even the next day changed their minds. That's the bullshit part about that, because you could be and what you think is the most amazing relationship ever and everything, everything, and then one day they just changed their minds. Yeah, it doesn't necessarily mean they were or life changes and stresses happen,
and you have kids and jobs and things and things risky. You know, everybody says, you know, till death to a bar happily ever after, and then things happened. So so you're dealing with three moving targets here. Whatever happened with her exes? Did they get better or worse? She got different? You were different, and so you know, Jonathan, you're writing here, I don't know what you're hoping for here. I think we're
on her side. I'm not necessarily feel a pity for him. I don't feel I do feel pity for him, because I do understand feeling like you told me this was everything you wanted, and then and then all of a sudden, they go back to what they said they didn't want. That sounds like, right, she's got a problem that she likes being treated like trash. Or maybe this other guy I stepped up and she really did still just love him. That's what it sounds like to defend you, crazy spelled Jonathan.
Maybe she just didn't appreciate you, and she had stuff to work on and she wasn't ready for a good guy like you, so I'm gonna put on like eventually she's just like I don't feel worthy of you. You are too good for me. Or sometimes it's when someone is so nice. Sometimes it is some people need that. Some people need, they need that little edge of like whatever. I know, some people need, like we need to fight to feel alive, because it's fighting is an emotion. And I'm
not against Jonathan at all. I do feel like I feel bad for him because it sucks to feel like you said this is what you wanted. It's like when you go out to eat and you're like, do you want anything, and they're like no, and then you come on with your food and they're like snacking on yours. You're like, no, you said you didn't
want anything. I leave my fries alone. Yeah, sorry, Jonathan, Sorry, this this is it's not going to work out because even if she called you back and said, oh, you're right, you can't trust it. Yeah, you gotta trust her. Yeah, all right, good, next one? Are you okay? So I turn? Yeah? You are who? I'm Megan in Shrewsbury Me She chews. She I don't even know. I've never Shrewsbury. Mass is Shrewsberry. It's kind of near Worcester because
I went to college in Worster, so it's somewhere. It's somewhere mid Massachusetts. Okay. So I'm not going to try to do an accent because I don't really know. It never stops me, okay, So Hi, it's Meghan. For years, you know, you wouldn't work out with me. You wouldn't stop eating like shit, you wouldn't stop drinking. You even snuck cigarettes at work, and now you're training to be a yoga instructor. What happened to? You? Only live once? What happened to? I want
to do what makes me happy? What happened to we're supposed to be carnivores when you were stuffing your face with cheeseburgers. You bring up a good point, Megan, and that actually reminds me of how stressed out I was with you, and how I was so unhappy that I I would only find pleasure in Big Max and I wanted to insulate myself in a world of chilly cheese
fries because you made me. And then once I was free of you, I realized that there was a better way to feel, not just emotionally but physically, and so I thank you very much you and you showed me the way that I could be. I love animals, I love life, and most importantly, now I love myself. And I didn't really realize any of that until I was free from you and free from you harping on me. So the more you you said, are you going to eat that? The
more I wanted to eat that. And now that nobody's questioning my food choices, the silence is enabling me to make smarter food choices. And no mistee, it's interesting to me this thing because it's Megan. This is this is interesting what you're saying because I feel like I would be more on her side if it was the opposite, if she was saying to him, like, you know, free years you were this yoga instructor, you were so into
hell you wouldn't eat me. You know, you were very like, you know, spiritual and like whatever you put and now all of a sudden you're like on the corner like eating. Yeah, this is rare. It's usually the other waysting like she's upset that he like bettered himself, and it's that's kind of I mean, listen, I am like the pettiest bitch on the planet, but it is a little bit petty to be like upset that he's she's not happy for him at all, Like what happened to well, he's
seen the light. It's not like we don't eat meat. Animals are our friends, and now you're like tearing your teeth into ribs. So another answer that he could have given, or I could have given, I suppose, is I didn't appreciate you were right. I just didn't grow up enough. I was unhappy with myself and everything you said to me really made a difference, and it took I'm sorry it kicked in well after we broke up, but it did, thank you very much, and and I like that.
And let's go let's go out for a green teeth Ebel, yeah, Eebel, and talk about I'd love to see you, and I'd like to talk about like the changes I've made because I feel you were the inspiration for them. Could have gone that way. Dick had Brian how he chose that, chose door, embracing myself for the next two are fun, But that's that could have gone either way. To give an answer, I think either of
those answers are are reasonable. I think so too. And yeah, it's she's like, oh, you know, all this time I wanted you to do this and you didn't and that is frustrating. Yeah, all this time, I'd ask you every morning, I'd wake uply, let's go, let's go hike. And now all of a sudden, you're hiking. Well, I hope, uh you know, Oh, I imagine Heather's happy with you. I mean, I imagine the frustration that people must have felt with me years ago, where like you didn't. This is what I was talking about.
All of us probably have that and and eventually, you know, somebody has says something in the right not just the right way, but not just at the right time, but in the moment that you can hear it, and things do click in our heads and maybe things will change, and maybe somebody will stop drinking, or maybe you will drink more or whatever whatever you
want. And there is a delayed reaction sometimes in the messages. Sure, or maybe you're just not you don't want to hear it from that person for whatever reason, or maybe it was the way we all think we're saying in a way that can be heard, but the tone could be wrong, or the maybe she accompanied it with an eye roll, right, you know, she if she said like, oh my god, you're gonna eat that?
That's so gross or that's so fat, or if you just be like, mm, you should try this salad honestly, honestly, just next time, next time, just order the veggie burger and said if you hate it, if you hate it, then I will order you a regular worker. But just next thing, you know, like something like if you hate it, I'll eat what your e right, like make it make it, Shawn,
make it Playfiel. There are ways to get messages across in a better way, but people don't want the more you beat them down and then peck them. The more cigarettes they're gonna sneak, right, And did you ever smoke? No? Never? Did you ever date a smoke her? No? And or would I what if they're like last one, I'm quitting for you? Well, yeah, of course. Yeah. I just don't want my
hair to smell like smoke. It's reasonable. I don't like walking through a cloud of smoke because then my hair smells like it the rest of the day. There's a place like two blocks from here where where like ten guys gather every morning and they sit and they smoke cigars and just they must smell like each other's cigar. Like I'm like, what are their goals? I like cigars, though, twelve guys in a room, I'm not even sure how safe that is these days. But they're just sitting in there, like blowing
smoke rings in this tiny little place. And then I'm like, where do they go after that? Do they shower? Do they go to lunch? I don't know what they do? They hang out with my grandfather, that's how he smells. My grandfather always smelled like cigars, and I loved it because it was him. It reminds me of It's a certain smell. Yeah, I don't know. I can't wait to see how I'm going to be
raked over the coal's neck. All right. Next one, this is Ian from just outside Austin, but here at first time, just out outside Austin, you could go a lot of different directions. Yeah, true, Ian from Austin. You and your dog are fucking weird. That's right. Your dog is weird too. You talk to each other and you hug each other, and you were into each other in a way that I don't think is normal and healthy. That dog always came before me. And there's a difference
between loving your pet and thinking your pet is a guy. It's a dog, it's not your husband. First of all, Ian, First of all, you tried to get that dog to love you the way he loved me, and he never did. And that's why you're pissed. You would take him on walks, you would try. He loved me better than you, And that is so sad and so sums up exactly our relationship. That literally you said the same thing to me about my cousin and about my favorite aunt
who I hang out with. You're like, this is weird. Nobody hangs out with their aunt. Nobody hangs out with their cousin because you don't have a relationship like that. Sad for you. Maybe someday you will find love in like an animal. But this is exactly why I broke up with you, because you could never see past what you think is weird. And you're like, you know what I think is weird? Ian, you know what I think is weird That you keep your dead father's ashes in your underwear drawer.
That's what I think is weird. So I'm glad we broke up. Have a nice life, and tell your dad I said hi, and think of him the next time you're putting on your tidy whities. Freak but Daddy in that cigar, I'm the wrong person to say you're weird with your dog? Dog? Right? Is there any chance that somebody is really weird with their dog. There's definite a lance of that shore extra licking and stuff that I don't allow. I love my dog more than anything. You look at
my Instagram, a third of it is my dog. He is the cutest dog in the world. Of their people think they're they're like, oh, I'm like, my dog's the cutest self post like oh, but also I'm like, no, not yours, actually mine. He really he's a Havines poodle mix. He's white and he's fluffy, and he's really the sweetest, cutest thing ever, So I get it. But anytime he tries to lick me, because dogs do that, I go, no licking, no licking. I do not allow that. You don't allow licking. I don't like
that. I think you're unreasonably cold your dog. Meanwhile, you wouldn't have said that if you saw me laying on the bed next to him today, combing his body, in his face and his hair. So the dog can be in the bed, but no licking, no licking, and you have to say it like that, no licking, and the dog knows he So can the dog sniff at you, canniff your curly hair? Yeah he doesn't though, but he could. I would allow him to sniff, but no, but no licking, no licking. I don't like that. You don't
kiss. What are people who do? Give the dog? I don't tongue the dog. But you've seen people who do that. I did. I saw something about Mary. Yeah, like that is that accessive? No, that's excessive for sure. But he didn't say like you like dry fuck your
dog. He said, you talk to it weird, and it's not like sometimes you're I mean, how many people adopted dogs during this quarantine because it's a comfort level and there is the like you, your dog is most likely not going to hurt you, and you can trust the dog, and people are more relaxed and comfortable with their pet and they can be So there's another one I where you know what it says to me. It says to me that either he was jealous of that dog already because he's saying your dog.
He came into that relationship she already had this dog. Yeah, I bet she probably had it with her last boyfriend or something, and he associates that right with the ex. You would never trust a person who doesn't like a dog, and you'd always trust a dog who doesn't like a person. Always right, And so whatever your energy was around the dog, maybe the dog got closer to her because you freaked the dog out. Maybe the dog could tell that you were like some freak code. I'm not gonna say, yeah,
we're on both we're on the dog. Yeah, we're definitely on the dog side. She may also be weird, but like I'm jealous of her relationship with this, and that's a picture of the dog that we could really judge. Right, you should have given us, Ian, I know you're not giving it to us, you're theoretically to her. You should have given
an example of something that you thought was weird. So yeah, yeah, because it seems like very generic right now, we're like, but if he's like, no, for the dog's birthday, she rented out a banquet hall like that, Yes, that's that is a little weird. I had to do a reading at a dog funeral once in Los Angeles and everybody was playing it straight like I had. Nobody was laughing, and I'm like, this
is so ridiculous. There was a band and a reading and a grave soud thing and I had to read there Like she's like, you knew the dog, will you? Will you do a reading? And I did a reading from like like a literally yeah something like that like was luke and I had to read it and I'm like, is anybody gonna start laughing here? And nobody start laughing? And I felt like the asshole. Yeah, well that
kind of is an asshole move. You're at a funeral, but you don't have a public funeral for your like if you're gonna like I'm said, the dog was old, she did. We were in we were in black and
people were crying. It's weird right there. There is a lot. It's also weird to have a birthday party for your dog, Like I understand getting him a special cake'or you know, a dog cake for the day, or you buy them treats or you get them gifts, but you don't invite other people into your I know somebody who had the who celebrate the dog's birthday month, which always think is weird when people do that. It's like it's the it's the yeah, like it's my birthday, yeah, and it's like
it's yeah, scor I am very much me too. Is there scorpio discrimination in your life? People are like scorpio because they know better. I'm like, don't be jealous that I'm the best son. Also, both my brothers and my dad are all scorpio. It's a real thing. Girls will not
date scorpios generally. Really Yeah, I'd love to date a scorpio because I never see it because you're like, I'm a scorpio, so you don't discriminate against wild Yeah, No, we We we do this thing in our live at our live shows where before anybody talks, they have to say where they went to high school. Oh and for a time I switched that up and I wanted people to say what they're uh zodiac sign was the Scorpio hate was so palpable. They're so jealous of us. Somebody would go Scorpio and they
would go and you'd hear like a thing I had to stop doing. They're so jealous of us because they know that Scorpios are like passionate and loyal and like so too. But it's a real thing. It's like the super hot girl at school that's like so hot. She doesn't have to work out, but she's beautiful and she's also nice and she's smart, and everybody's like, how do I get what she has? You're like, you can't. She was just born with it, just got it. Sorry, she's a Scorpio.
We are gonna take a quick break and we will be back with more exes and uh oh's right after this. We are back and it's your turn to serve Jolly Kimmel. Okay, So this is Carinn karenn. My name's Karen Okay, and this is just via the Facebook page, so she doesn't say where she's from. You never came to pick up that box that you left in my closet, the one I never paid much attention to, but now that I'm moving, I had to take it out. I looked inside.
I mean, what the fuck? Oh you found the gift that I meant to give you for our anniversary that we never got to because you broke up with me. It was supposed to be special for you, and I'm sorry that I couldn't give it to you in the manner in which I intended. The severed head I was gonna say, that's really Yeah, it doesn't sound like whatever it was in the box was good? Is it like pulp fiction? And what's in the briefcase? It's like a seven? Right,
wasn't that seven? Seven? Had to head? Right? What's in the box? Right? But yeah, pulp fiction is like what was in that brief because we don't know? Fuck? Like, so what could that have been? I mean it had to be porn, is my first thought. Beard underwear just something super weird. Pictures of his ex yeah, like what
the fuck? Bro or like so pictures of her. It probably wasn't like old baseball cards, probably no definite pictures of maybe pictures of Krinne, like really bro like that she didn't know we're being taken, like of her sleeping and stuff. Oh like secret videos and stuff. I actually have like one picture I remember my ex husband, I don't remember. I think I was looking through his phone. I don't remember what I was doing. Somehow or
another. I saw that he had taken a picture of me. I was just like in underwear at the sink, like getting ready, and it was not flattering at all. I mean I was very heavy at the time. I've I've lost over one hundred pounds over the course of the last seven years or so. Have you, Yeah, and so thank you. I mean I had weight loss surgery, so it's not that much of an accomplishment, but yes, I did. So I looked terrible and closed, and I
looked terrible naked. Now I looked even worse than And it was a photo. I was just like putting makeup on or something. He like took it. It was like secretly, and that really bothered me, Like not so much that I looked disgusting in the photo, but like, why are you taking this? The most beautiful pictures of a woman are always when, always, when she's caught off always caught off guard, when your cellulite is being reflected by the mirrors, not to him, But no, he was not.
This was not a lovely No, it was like a blackmail shot, is what it was. Like. I U a friend of mine she was dating a guy for like a year and a half and he was really only with her. He was secretly recording everything and putting it on the internet. No, yeah, like sexual stuff, sexual getting ready for stuff. It was a whole thing. Like and so I'm like, she she's still like
traumatized this day. Right, she just trusted this guy and he was always he filmed everything and he was like secretly uploading it to like porn sites and stuff. I feel like that's like a version of rape, right, I agree. Yeah, I don't know how she could even trust anybody, like. It was just such a terrible thing for her. But so, yeah, whatever is in the the way she says or the way you read Karin's
thing, I mean, what the fuck? It's probably not good, no, but not not horrible, because otherwise she would have turned it into the cops. It's not like child porn but it's probably like some weird right, if it was porn, she wouldn't want it. Yeah, maybe it's like a ballgag and something or like a plug. Right, And this was for you, like yeah, we didn't happy birthday. No, it was not a gift for her. He left in the closet. She never paid much
attention to attention to it. It wasn't for her. It was his and he accidentally left it. Well he he he accident. If it was really that right incriminating, he would have gotten it and he brought it into their home. He didn't hide it. Sure, So it wasn't like illegal or whatever. Right, it just had to be like embarrassingly. IW did you ever find something after you dated or while you're like, oh my god, what the hell they used to be a woman, or anything like that.
I did not find anything like that. No, I didn't. I think I found out all this stuff about the exes, like before we broke up. I've found a box A long time ago. I was living with this girl. She got her stuff, she moved out. She left one box behind. It was a bunch of diaries that were not hers. Oh, it was like she had stolen them out of her sorority. This goes back
like it was like early twenties. This, I like, it's like she was gonna black actual because they weren't hers and they were different handwritings, but they were legitimate diaries. And she had like nine of them in a box. And I'm like, where did you get these? And why do you have these? Hear me out? Did you look at the dates at all? Yeah? Were they all the same? Like they were not and Franks? Maybe she bought No, I don't mean like that, but maybe she
got them at like thrifts. Maybe she collects them and thinks it really sells diaries you donate them and they get like an estate sale or something like maybe. I'm on the side of definitely wanting to know. I think there's so that's kind of interesting that you could go around and get Are there diaries like yards sale? Is that? I mean, I guess why not if you die and you have an estate. See, now she's suddenly really interesting. And I was just like, she's a psychopath. Why did you? And
I didn't know what to say. I was like, did she want me to find these? Did she leave these behind intentionally? They? I just felt like I was a part of something that I shouldn't have been part of. If they were diaries from people she knew, that's weird. But if they were divers from people she didn't know, maybe she's just fascinated by that. Like I remember we would drive through like let's say I grew up in Vegas and we're driving to California. We drive through like Barstow or whatever.
Yeah, and you see these small towns like off the side of the road. It's mostly desert, but you see and people live. And I was always fascinated as a kid, thinking I would love to just be like a fly on the wall, like in houses of people I don't know, and from her hangman, I just would love to, like, and I don't care about I don't want to come into your house and see how you live
like I know you. That does not interest me. I want to like watch people I don't know and like how they interact and like, you know, walking through the kitchen, what do they pick up to snack on? Just that kind of stuff fascinates me. Uh yeah. I always thought a camera outside a bar in the parking lot that was fixed for like eight am the next morning, like the Walk of Shape camera different. We had to drop the people off in the awkward goodbye, like drive me back to my
car. Kin, Sure, well, nowadays you would just see a taking that one hundred dollars idea. Here's the thing about like, yeah, it could be interesting. Why but if it was something that she did to collect diaries, wouldn't she have shared that if they're in a relationship or with me, I'm like, who is this? I was the one she had a bunch, He had a bunch of diaries and be like, I like to do this. Maybe not necessarily. Maybe it wasn't something she really like was
at the forefront of her mind. You know, maybe it was something she hadn't done in a while, or it's not like such a big fiation she's like, I love this. You've got to know. It's just like, oh, every you know, four years or so. Maybe you know I'll see and be like, oh cool. You know what. Anytime I'm in an antique store, I look and I asked, you haven't have any diaries? You know? I mean some people collect rosaries? Do they have them? They do? Sometimes? Absolutely, they have a little bi I think
ancient ones are old. Like I always thought it was. It was both very personal and uh, you know. Nancy Reagan published the book of her husband, Ronald Reagan wrote hand wrote a letter to Nancy every day of their marriage, no matter where he was, and she published them. And they were very sweet. But I always wondered on his side, like I didn't want to share that with the world. I wanted to show he's dead. I get that. Well, this is which can we not honor the dead's
wishes? Well, I mean if he had made that, you know, like clear to her that he didn't want to. But if they were nice, I see, like what's wrong with it? But you were a very ultimate portrayal of their of their relationship and how much he loved her, And I thought it was very sweet. But part of me like, this is this is only for you for sure? I think those she must have known him well enough to know that he was okay with it, or she wouldn't
have done it. They did seem like a happy couple. Yeah, they don't you imagine if they were like, I want to fuck you like an animal nancer. Well, I'm sure an editor, I know they probably left out the weird one. Yeah, by the way, what is that weird lump? We've got to get that checked or whatever, like, can we leave that out? Can you pick? Can you pick something on the way? They didn't have that, but but I thought it was and closed is
a photo of you and your cellul like getting ready in the mirror? Are you gonna let that? God? Was it a digital photo? Is it back like a polaroid? You know it wasn't a polaroid. It was definitely digital. But God, when I was, I mean, I don't one hundred percent remember, which tells you it wasn't like that impactful. It was just something that I was like, okay about I just thought this. I don't care for this. I don't even think I ever brought it up to
him. I was just like, hmm, was there a point in your weight loss journey? Can I talk about that for a second where you were like I'm getting I'm gonna make it to where I want to be. Like you say, you lost one hundred punds over seven years, that's all? Oh? No, No, over seven years. It was like an eighteen month period. I had the weight loss surgery and so it was like eighteenth the band. No, I did have the band to actually cut off a leg, do not ever get the band. The band is horrible and almost
killed me. I was very, very sick from the band. I had the band for like two years. I lost about eighty pounds only because I was always vomiting, always throwing up, right, So then I was getting second opinions. I was so sick, so weak, I could barely like work or function. I would go to the hospital like every few weeks for like an IV. It was terrible. So finally get a second opinion and
they're like, yeah, the band needs to come out. It is slipped eighty percent of the way down your stomach and it's basically strangling you to death. Yeah, so weight Yeah, And I got it taken out and felt great, and then within like a year I had gained all my weight back. And then I found out that my insurance covered weight loss or so when I had the gastric sleeve, which just means they just cut off like eighty percent of your stomach, they just like it off and it's like shaped like
a sleeve, which is why they call it that. And yeah, so I lost like one hundred and nine pounds or whatever and took about eighteen months. Good for you, it averages out to like eight to ten pounds a month. You have to go get the skin done. I actually I'm gonna beginning a tummy took soon. Yeah, thank to an anonymous benefactor, all right, and not so anonymous to me. Maybe posting the before and after pictures on our Facebook. We'll see, I mean maybe do you know who?
Oddly that actually triggered me here of who I looked to as like what he did works. I think I should try that. Do you know who my brother, yeah, yeah to me has done He does the five and two. Yeah, he's kept the weight off a long time. Has but he also and he likes barbecue and cookie. He likes a lot of stuff like that. He never had a weight problem. He was always very skinny
growing up Key though. It was always very skinny growing up, and then when he was like man show ish, he was like it was more like baby fat than anything. He was never like a fat per, but he was like next to Adam Corolla for one thing, who's skinny, and he just kind of had it was like baby fat more than anything. And then he lost that weight and I mean it wasn't like so much weight he really
kept. He lost forty pounds, right, which to me is nothing because I've been like a hundred and something pounds overweight, but he's been he's been at that weight right fairly. I'm a personal trainer who like kind of and Jimmy's very determined and dedicated, Like if he puts his mind to something, there's nothing that's going to stop him because he's not oprah yo yo, and she has the tricks very much like he's very He's very dedicated, and he's
like my brain is like watch this. I would go and get diet pills, like back in the day when diepills are a thing, like at a truck stop. Like one of your friends would be like, I got these diet pills. You're like where they're like a truck stop in king when you're like, next time, you're going through stock up and give me Like girls in college, like we did everything we could to his weight except diet exercise,
but that's another story. And I would like get the pills and everyone was losing weight on them, and I'd be like I could eat, watch and I'd take the pills and like still eat, Like why was I doing that? I don't know. But Jimmy is not like that. When he's like gets something in his head, he will do it. Is it always the same days that he does? I don't really know. I don't think so. I think he's a little looser with it now that he like doesn't
have to lose weight, he just has to maintain. But you know, they would do a lot of every day catered lunches for the writers and all this. So now they do that, but they keep it more too, they keep it more health conscious. Yeah, and like it's not as crazy like tons of bagels in the break room every day, and it's a little more like all right, we're all but it seems like a fairly normal way
to do it. Yeah. And he's a very big fan of the Souv'd which is that cooking thing, and he would like put his fish in there and have like it. He's very he likes to I'm doing the bone broth. It really is. Oh see, I don't that schevs me to even think about, like bone broth. It's so good for you. And I don't eat meat anywhere anyway, So I think that what about the broth? Does that count as meat? Yes, it's made from animals, are you
like, No, I'm not eat fish? And honestly, there are sometimes like when I was at my mom's over Christmas, she was making bacon. I was like, oh, I like took two pieces and like stood in the hall and just like scarf them. So no, I'm not like that. But there are certain things like I don't. I will never just like eat a steak if I said, oh, so good, have a bite if it's a very small bite. But for me now it's more of a mental thing than anything else, like the texture and stuff like schevs me.
But like a burger I could eat if it's not too thick, or like a like a chicken nugget, because I always feel like they're not real meat anyway, right, And it's not very often, it's just once in a while, but I feel like I've oh my god, I used to love that. I had a whole bit about it, like I was like the
fat girl who could never talk about anything but the McRib coming back. I loved and I had it again, like I mean, I gave it meat like a year and a half ago, but you know, for the most part, but recently, I think the last macrib I had probably was three or four years ago, and I was like, what was I think. I know. It is like a gelatinous slab of when's the last time you
had a hot dog? I actually have never liked hot dogs. I only would eat turkey ones when I would eat them, because I really just never liked hot dogs. But now I love the Morning Star Farms veggie corn dogs there say they're so good, Oh my god, I might stop and get some on my way home today. I'll eat like two of them in the microwave for breakfast and like two for lunch. Okay, that's what's known as a tangent. Yes, I hope it was. It was good, but
you never know. You never know where we're going to go. Yeah, they're like, oh, I just got good information on weight loss surgery. Have you ever done Corollas show? No, I did his w I've done his wife's podcast. If you do Adam's show, you have to be prepared for any oh hello, Adam's whole life is a tangent or any conversation with him, and you just have to be like, how did we get done?
Like you honestly have to just like do yourself that favor and not even make any sidebar with him, otherwise you will totally It's like, forget, how did we get down this road? Yeah? Well, Adam, Adam, your your you my third one? My number three? Is you? Two? Okay? I hope this is a good one. Do you like an accent or something this time? Okay? Play wild with me? Okay, here we go. Wait, I got you. Yeah, you're number oh okay, and this is Mark the mark with a K R a C
mark with a K, thank god. Via the Facebook page. Huh, do you want an accent up some kind? Sure? Do you want to Massachusetts accent? If you can do one? Yeah, don't don't screw it up? Though, I can't do this one to play it straight. You just made me nervous. I do it? I like, look, every opportunity to say wicked, piss awesome, but I couldn't. Your father's a cop mark Mark via the Facebook page. I always had trouble saying I love you, and I know that ultimately that is what made you end things you
felt I was too emotionally immature. Well, I know it has been a while, and I'm not afraid anymore. I not only miss you, but I love you. I think we should give it another try. Oh, she's crying. I like literally, she's literally crying, Mark, I got a girl for you, Mark, like I never. I just want to
say, first of all, you were right about that. That was something that always bothered me, and it was hard, you know, because like I loved you so much and I always told you and I just felt like you never you never wanted to say it, And just to hear you say that now means like so much to me, and I would love to give it another try. She's actually crying, I waiting for me. You were
waiting for the dark turn. And I love that he was. He was sweet and he feels bad and he's so willing to put himself out there sometimes because she could be like fuck you too late. Of course most people sometimes it takes a while for the boys to grow up. Any any humans, it did kick in. I think that he's clearly done the work or the work sunk in to him. I believe him. I want him. I want her to take him back. I like it because it's it doesn't seem
like there was any like real terrible stuff. It was just like my dad doesn't. She just couldn't get through. My dad doesn't say I love you very often. The house it wasn't something that they said in his house. He's like German Irish, so they were I mean, there were nice people and they loved him, but it wasn't a very like my mom is Italian, like everything's I love you, I love you, I love your face, Come here, give me like food is love. Everything's love right,
and my dad loves us like a million ways to Sunday. He shows it in everything he does say. The words are tough for him. He actually used to am I going to out him here? He's we're going to listen to this? He used to say to my mom because well, because I'm not going to tell him. He used to say to my mom instead of I love you. It was so hard for him to just bridge that, like just to say it. He loves her so much and shows it.
He would say taamo, which is just because they had seen it in like some movie or something kind of like in Ghosts where he would just say diddo. It was just those words were so difficult. He showed her all that. I hope that this lady gets back together with Mark. Mark. I know, let Mark please reach out again and like follow up with us on this. See you know you should say I love you once in a while, but there are more original things to say and ways to express it that
can absolutely be more meaning for me. If you're just like you know, you're just the most special person in the world and I can't believe you're my something like my ex used to say to me, I'll fight for you, because one time I had said to him, like, I feel like if we get in a fight, like and I like leave in a huff or whatever, like you won't even come after me, Like I feel like you won't even fight for me. Yeah, And so he used to text me just every once in a while and say, hey, you know, I'll
fight for you. And now at the end of our relationship, I said to him, you know, it's funny because you always used to say to me, you'll fight for me, and that meant so much to me until I realized you didn't mean you would fight for me. You meant you would fight with me. Yeah, And he was like h And I'm like, well, I mean, sorry, the truth hurts, but yes, because a lot of people will will reach out to the X and throw out the I miss you, yeah, but you and I love you, especially if
you didn't say it. I buy it. I believe it too. I believe it's so on board for this relationship to work. I'll track this guy down. Yeah yeah, if well, if he's listening on our Facebook page and Mark, send us some more info. We're gonna help you, like we'd love. We're gonna make this better, not fuck us over, Mark weird team market and also Mark, you better not be some piece of shit who like ruined her life. That she's going to be mad that we find
her. But like, yeah, I don't want her to be like do you know what he did? Not only I say this, here's what he did say, I am an ordained minister. I would be happy to like officiate your wedding. Yeah, I don't know. It was sweet. You did make it and make me cry. She doesn't write you back hit me up unless you're a smoker, but otherwise, and good for us throwing in a sweet one. You know. Yeah, that's good and and that was really the way. Here's what you did, Mark. You acknowledged you heard
her, You acknowledged what you did wrong. Give the reason you thought I was emotionally immature, And you're right. People really do want that acknowledgment that people want to know that I wasn't crazy to think this the validating and I heard you. It took me too long, It was too late. But this sort of goes back to the beginning, like with the food thing. If the crazy eater who was then teaching yoga, yeah, you know,
he was like I heard you and it did kick in someone. Yeah, but this one he understood what she was talking about and he was emotionally immature, and he is a different person now. And people are always sometimes like you know, a lot of times it ends because it ends, and it should end. But people do change and they do grow up and they do see the light and they can be better people. And there is nothing wrong
with I don't want to say recycling an X, but revisiting something. The one that got away, Yeah, she could be the one that like, you know, yeah, you're different places in time. Lord back with Yeah, and you meet and you and you learned. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, we're in God. I love you to Mark, I love you too. So you have a you have a plan B here, you'll kimmel one. Well, you don't even need plan B because I've I can't have kids. Oh that's a different plan being exactly. Yeah, that's a
different plan, big different thing. All right, that was very sweet. Okay, next one for me. Okay, this is from Sabrina in White Plans, New York. You know who was born in White Plans, New York? No? Me? Oh, really, White Plans. I do know that the star Wood corporate office is in White Plains, New York. I used to work for them, you did, Okay, I was born there, unceremoniously fired. It's a long story. It's a different pody. Not really, it was jobs I used to have with Oh my god,
that would be you know, some podcast. It was actually a good podcast podcast. Yeah, to have people about the jobs I used to have one, no to self. Okay, here we go. This is Sabrina. I feel like we should have ended with Mark because that was like a nice taste. Well, here we go. I've waited three years to tell you this, but here goes. I cheated on you with your brother. You know how I said I always hated him and he was so gross. That was a lie. He's hot, his wife's a crazy bitch. You're an
asshole, and that last Thanksgiving was fucking awesome. He might be a total dick, like you, but he knew how to please me in ways you never could. So when I said screw you're and your whole family, I meant screw you and I screwed your brother, hot fucking hot. Well you two deserve each other. And uh, he has that bitch of a wife because he's a miserable piece of shit. And I'm not surprised by that,
because I'm not surprised by anything you do. I'm surprised you're not writing me and telling me that it was my father, or our neighbors or anybody else. I always knew you were no good. I'm glad to be free of you. I'm with a wonderful woman now who makes me cheeseburgers for Thanksgiving dinner, and she's terrific, and she would never do the things you do. I don't know. Uh, if you think that I'm going to be shocked at this news, why would you do that with him? No matter how
much you tried to say you don't know. Well, she does say that he was a total dick. He might be a total dick like you, So they're both dicks. But he knew how to please me in ways you could never could. This is the most toxic thing I've ever read in my life. It's like, not only are and believe me, it's like, not only are you not together anymore, but you feel compelled to let him know that when you together, you're stuck with his brother who's also a dick.
So it's not even well, I feel like what he should have said to her was like, well, guess what. You know what what he never told you and neither did I was that he has herpies, So good luck with that, sister. Yeah, like weird, I know what again, what do you want? So you just wanted to have the last word? Yeah, why are you fucking his brother if he's also a total dick?
Just like what? We don't bring her to Thanksgiving dinner? That last Thanksgiving was fucking awesome, Like, I I know, yeah, it's I mean it sounds like you two are perfect for each other kind of yeah, and thanks for listening three years to tell you this, like Sabrina stay away from for Sabrina that she's still three years later, thinks that she needs to hold onto this tussa. It's like, yeah, you're telling him now, but you're still clearly like hot, She goes, I've waited three years to
tell me, right, but you feel bad for her. I feel badly that she's the kind of person that needs to hold Like three years later, you're still like harboring the one who's the piece of shit here. I don't feel bad for her, like I'm sad. I feel like this is really the brother's the bad one. They're all bad. They're all bad. Well maybe not the guy. She does say he's a total dick, but that's her version. But he didn't care to screw his brother's white they're all they're
all all bad. Maybe the brother's wife's the only one. He's she's a crazy bitch, she might be. Why is the crazy bitch? You're fucking your husband? Or boyfriend's brother is the crazy bitch? Right? Like I've been a crazy bitch, don't get it twisted, But I would never hook up with a relative. Do you know people who've done stuff like that? H you know? I watched Ninety Day Fiance. There's one couple on there, but I I don't think I do not in real life. No,
And if they have, they haven't admitted it. The couple that does not get enough or the story that does not get enough play is Shania Twain's husband, but Lang left her for her friend best friend, and Shania's with the friend's husband. That crazy, they just swapped, which is like, hey, if it works out, fine, But my Lang thinking like how gorgeous was this friend that he would cheat on Shilly not for the pictures, not
but Shania might have been annoying. Sure, don't judge, but I think that the husband coming over and them saying like how long did you know about them doing this? Brought them together. It would bring me to sort of like it does sometimes happen with you know, widows or widowers. They they share the comfort and the loss. Yeah, so like their husband died at war and like the y and surprising amount of nine to eleven firefighters got together
with the wives. Not surprising though, because they probably have a lot in common if they're friends and they're sharing the kind of career, and if they're dead, that's totally different. I mean, it might be weird for the people who are left, like wasn't that my uncle? I know? Are they together? Like where do they go? And in real life, like when they're still alive and you just yeah, that's gross, I know. And also no one I've ever dated has had a hot relative. So the
one I want is Sabrina. I don't want you contacting Mark. I will kill Sabrina if she contacts my man Mark. Fur Sweet Serena is knock it off. I know you did this, and thanks, thanks for listening. But this is something that you admit in one of those drinking games with your friends. Reach out to him three years later like what's the point, right, And it's not like three years later you've had some growth, because three
years later you want it. You're still saying how fucking hot. At the end, you kind of you tell this story to everybody and you think it's cool, right, And if he was a really total dick, then it is like I get it. If he really was a dick. I'm on Sabrina's side, like, good for you, sister, preach it to the choir. Let him know you ruin his life. Yeah, but I feel like maybe it wasn't totally like that. He was probably a dick. But I feel like she's got some spice too. She's probably a scorpio. She
probably is and was the brother. There's no I want to go drinking with Sabrina, and I want Sabrina to have my back when my man cheats on me. But I feel also like I would not let Sabrina be alone in my Rina. Ye, yes, she's the friend that you call when you need like a body buried. Come on, Sabrina, get it together there, Sabrina. Yeah, I feel like Sabrina hasn't found love to this point
to still be like hot, fucking hot. Yeah, you still are kind of think it's I want her to like find someone who makes her not care. I know about that. That's That's not the show we're doing here, Sabrina. We're selling hope around here. Oh okay, this was good. Are you since the last time you were here? A reader? The listeners an update? Are you in a happier place? I am so happy.
I'm in such a good place. So turns out I don't know. I don't remember how much I revealed of my last but I was still in a very bad place. What was it three weeks ago when I was here? My ex and I he had been stringing me along for many, many months, and he doesn't think he was, but everyone who hears this story agrees that he for sure was, and he started dating someone during like a month period where he and I were not speaking, but then we started speaking again
and like hooking up. But he was still dating this girl that he was very much downplaying. He's like, no, no, we're not dating. We're not dating. We've gone on a dates, is what he kept saying. Turns out they were very much dating, and I was a little bitter about it, and maybe much like Sabrina, but I was subtweeting. I was tweeting things that I would not say. Well, I was working jokes into my act, but also on Twitter, which although they had me blocked
on all social media. I knew she would be looking because that's what I do. And she saw something I wrote and reached out and was like, listen, I'm reading your stuff. If you've got something to say to me, say it, and if not, like cut the shit, Like what are you doing stirring up trouble? So she and I spoke for about three hours. We facetimes that day, and I just told her the truth about everything, and she promptly went over to his house and broke up with him.
And that was two and a half weeks ago, and she and I are buddies. We hung out, We've spoken every day. Every day we text and talk, and she's very young and very cool and so much more mature than I ever was at her age or am today at fifth she's twenty two. She's lived a life where she had to grow up a little fast, and she's like really well spoken and a great girl. And honestly, I know exactly what he saw in her, but sorry, you were still
put in your dick where it didn't belong in me. So she knows now, and she's broken up with him, and he's trying real hard to get her back and think she's too smart for that. So wow, yeah, yes it is closure. It is. And I think I think because she and I talked so much, and he told her so many lies that didn't even matter, Like I understand. I'm not condoning, but I understand save my ass lies like when was the last time you talked to your ex?
I understand the like oh not like for like a month. I don't like it, but I do understand that he told her lies that made no sense at all, had no bearing on their relationship, just random shit. So he's just a crazy person. I don't think he's crazy. I think he's a compulsive liar, like. He would tell her things about me that I was like, like, she actually came to my house. I closed the
bar down one night. We went out. We closed one bar down at eleven o'clock, went across the street to this other bar, stayed there till two we still had stuff to say. Went back to my house till four point thirty in the morning. Why, she said to me, because I live like down the block. She goes, is this where you guys live together? And I go, yeah, she goes, He told me you didn't have a TV in your bedroom. Just shit like that that you're like, why why, I don't know, She goes, I don't know.
He would always be like, yeah, I don't like a TV in the bedroom. I've never had a TV in my bedroom. I like to just you know, when I'm going to be like just random stuff. To make himself look better, he told her that in October he had posted a picture of himself on his buddy's boat with a bunch of hot chicks. And I got really mad and flipped out and called his parents and lied to them and told him he was doing drugs and stuff, and his parents were like,
man, just take it down. I'm like that literally never happened, none of that, none of it, not even like, that's not what happened. The picture was of his ex. No, no picture, no boat, no buddy, nothing nothing. I was like, are you kidding me? When she told me that, I practically I like knocked her drink over because I pounded on the table. I was like, what so good again?
So yes, what that does give you is I'm not crazy. I'm not crazy, right, and I mean, like I knew I wasn't like I can be crazy where I'm like, yes, the scorpio crazy, which is the typical you know, I'm very jealous person when you give me a reason to be, and even sometimes not like if I just see pictures of your ex and she's smoking hot, Yeah, yes, I'm jealous. Am I gonna like torture you over it? No? Might I make snide comments now and then, absolutely, But you should be like, oh that's I
must be like that. Wouldn't it be good that X was hot? And that doesn't mean you're hot just because his ex was hot. It means he's capable of getting hot. Sure, okay, great, and I ain't her, which means anytime you can get hot and it's not me, so yes, wait, no, it could be I can get hot and you're the hot one I want, sure, which is great, and that's an awesome, non scorpio way to look at it, but that must be your sign rising. I think Kevin Fetterline can go out to bar and get any girl
because he got Brittany. That's an interesting way to look at it. I could see that and like, yeah, sure, But for me personally, I am like, you know, I'm insecure about that, and I'd be like, oh, look at her, Oh my god, she's in this bikini. Her body is amazing. Thinking about what my body looks like, it doesn't look like that, Like, I am insecure, but I'm not
going to do that to you. I'm gonna call my best friend and say that shit to her, and then to you, I'll just be like m you know, like I'll be like, yeah, oh, looks like your ex was a you know why this week must be nice, and I'll drop it at that. But to my best friend, I'm like, this bitch was in a thong. You should have seen her. Oh my god, I wanted to kill myself, you know, Like, yeah, but I'm not going to do that to you, you learn some crazy I know right
going on? Sure, and it's like so it gave me a big, huge it's slammed the door of cloth like. I was like, wow, Like, but whatever, this is done, Like you have a sparkle in your eye. You look answered so many questions for me because she and I sat next to each other and compared to he would send us the same funny meme. At the same time. I was like, wow, she and I just compared you to know you do you talk about other things? Or is it all him? All the time? It was literally all him.
We had so much to talk about. We FaceTime for three hours the first day, texted for three hours the next night, texted for four hours the next night, texted for three hours the next night. Then we met from nine thirty at night till four thirty in the morning, and then have texted or talked in some fashion less but like you know, anywhere from like twenty minutes to an hour or so pretty much every day since. Then take a day off from him. No, it's good. It's good because she's asking
me questions. She'll be like, hey, by the way, did this ever happen? I'm like m well, maybe before me, Like I've even found myself like trying to be like really give him the benefit of the doubt. She's like, did he ever teach boxing to like kids? And I'm like, I mean maybe before me. She's like, no, he said he had to stop because of COVID. I'm like, yeah, no, stuff like that lies. Yeah, So I feel like free, okay,
And it's the I've never felt so. I mean, I have spent eight months tortured, crying every single day over him, whether we were still talking in a good place or not, because I would cry knowing that we weren't fully to get at whatever. But this I have to say, I've learned such a big lesson from it. First of all, I was very judging
of her when I first saw her. I was like, she's super young, and I just picked out anything that I possibly thought I could pick out about her and like, you know, illuminated it, Like, oh, look at her eyelashes. What I mean, while her eyelashes look great? But I was like, okay, fake eyelashes. It's like, yeah, a million people at fake eyelashes, and hers actually look really good. So
I really learned. And she's like really, well, spoken and smart and like really sweet and nice, and I could see someone falling for her absolutely, and so it really taught me like do not because I wanted to be like, Okay, this girl thinks he's this, that and the other thing, and she probably thinks he's such a catch. He's never been married and doesn't have any kids, but he wants them, and she's probably like,
oh my god, he's amazing and he owns his own place. And meanwhile she's like no, Like when he asked me to be his girlfriend, I was like, I mean, I guess I thought we were just hooking up, but okay, I guess we can try it. Like I had so many like preconceived notions about her and all those things that like I'm an idiot and I can't like apologize to her enough and thank her enough for being woman and adult enough to say, hey, listen, I see some shit you're
saying. If you have something to say to me, say it. If not, and you're just like doing this disturb of trouble. Can you knock it off? And millennials, they're not all bad, I know. I well, I don't even think she's a millennial. I think she's like why Yeah, yeah, she's too young to be yeah, oh my god. So I definitely learned a huge lesson from it. And really it's like really
cut the shit, like the preconceived notions. All it did was like hurt me to jump to conclusions about her because I was like about it all the time and yeah, I feel free and happy and I couldn't thank her enough. Well, this was fun. Yeah, that's why we had you. This is very cathartic. It so was, and this is fun. I like doing this. If you guys want to write in with letter and you can catch Jill hosting jobs. We used to have podcasts coming soon. You
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