This is pod Popular Podcast for the People, Great Love Debates. It's Great Love Debate, the Great Love Debate. It's a great loved to base. Hi again, everyone is Brian how We welcome to the Great Love Debate, the world's number one dating in relation podcast since twenty fifteen. I am coming here from the very fine studios of Pod Popular Podcasts for the People. I am back at the one in Boca Ratone, Florida. It's a lovely time
of year, but as I record this, it's also scorpio season. As they say, I had a birthday, and the amount of oh you're a scorpio dwarfed the amount of happy birthdays. People really are bothered by it. I know we did a podcast on I made that a couple of years ago. She did. But people are like, Eh, there really is audible scorpio discrimination. I don't even know how to fight it. So I'm going to bring in my guest here. She's very antsy. A couple of years
ago, we had somebody named Mark Wahlberg on this podcast. Not that Mark Wahlberg, the other one, Mark L. Wahlberg. He was the host of a show called Temptation Island, and he was a really interesting guest. You can google look through the archives of it. He was great. And the thing that was surprised me about him was he really cared about his cast I found that fascinating. He really wanted them to be happy. He really wanted things to work out. He wasn't just trying to stir the pot.
My guest here, however, did stir the pot, and she was lured into possibly stirred the pot. She was on the most recent season of Temptation Island, which is on What USA USA Network. Yeah, she's got a lot to say. I asked her for that. I asked her if there's anything she didn't want to talk about. She looked like I was nuts. The lovely Marjorie Garotcha, how are you good? Thanks for having me. I'm so excited to be here. And is a nice girl like you end
up on Temptation Island? You know, I've actually I've always been casted for TV shows, and they're all unscripted. As much as people want to believe that they're scripted, they're not. So. I was on MTV when I was oh my god, this it's two thousand and fourteen. I was not fourteen, and it was two thousand and fourteen for a totally different like it almost like a dating show, but it was about me being like a virgin, embarrassing like a virgin, or literally a version. I was still a
virgin in high school. Yeah, so ever since it, yeah thanks, so ever since that, I just connected with one of the girls that reached out to me and I stayed in touch with her. She actually did Big Brother. She's like my casting agent, I would say, because she would always reach out to me and be like, Hey, do you want to do the Bachelor? Hey, do you want to do this? Do you
want to do that? So I've been casted for years and I've been flown out to La twice to do other shows that I didn't know the name of it at the time because sometimes they just don't release the names right. So it's been on my is, which is a challenge that you're like, would you like to do? And they they're kind of nebulous what it is. It's like a network dating It's usually always a dating show. And I was always in an on and off relationship with the same person, So anytime she
would approach me like hey, are you singles? Do you want to go on a dating show. I'm like, hell, yeah, let me find my soulmate, you know, like on a dating show, because like this guy sucks or whatever. Our longtime producer of this podcast, the two time Emmy Award winning Keko. She is the reality television producer and she even casts shows a lot where she says, I'm trying to cast these people. I
can't say the name of it and I can't say the network. Yeah, you're trying to get people to buy in and say, uh yeah, I want to do this Temptation Island. Though it was on years and years ago, it took a hiatus, it's come back. Were you familiar with the show? I was, And actually I knew a kid the year before that win on that show. Oh so like he was a like we were just like friendly and he was kind of like approaching, meaning he's like, Hey, I'm going to go to Hawaii to film a TV show. I was
like, okay, best of luck. And then one year later I got cast for that show and I was like, oh my god, you're not going to believe it. I was just casting for this show and I'm going to go And this is so wild because he's from the same area. As me. So the premise of that show is they have some couples who may or may not be in healthy relationships and they bring in some people to tempt them. Yeah, so you were a temp temptress? Is that determined?
They call it tempty at temptee? Yeah, so okay, so you were a temptee and do you know what do they tell you, like, just go at it? And are you basically testing the stability of the relationship or you're like, I'm going to see if I can steal that guy? What is the mojo there? I'm pretty sure that's what they probably expect to happen.
And everybody's like there's so many different personalities, so obviously during the casting process they probably look at that and like picked like the best girls with like who's like willing to go out there and get it. But like I was just like, if I like the person, I will do my part because I have been single for a really long time and I do want my soulmate. But like, once I got in there, I just felt like I had no connection with the boys, that that wasn't my m o. But
if you do a connection, they're in a relationship. Yeah, there, well have you ever broken up somebody's relationship before? Have you ever stolen a guy before? Probably? I don't think so. I've been in drama with like ex girlfriends of like guys when like I've been down, the girlfriend has popped up and like been emotional and I'm like, what do you want me to do about it? But like, or you've been in a relationship and the right the girl comes around and you'll be like, this is my man,
what are you doing? So don't the women by nature like get the fuck away from my dude. I'm totally like that. I would say I've definitely changed a lot. But like in college, when I was dating the guy I was dating and he was in a frat, the girl's in a sorority, and I went up there. There was like so much drama. The girl was like trying to say that they were a thing, and I'm like, girl, like he's my man or whatever. There was like the
biggest drama. And I've had happened that before. But you know, it's always a challenge because you want to date somebody who other people desire you do that is the goal. You want somebody who is desirable to other people. You know, want somebody who'd be like, nobody wants that person. Well, I don't think of it that way. Well you got to be like, oh, everybody wants my man, but he's with me. I don't think of it that way. Well, how do you think of it?
Then I just go from the person that I'm truly interested in. If you have like the things that I'm looking for, then I'm interested in you. If you don't, then you're a loser and I'm not interested in it. Oh. I agree with that. But some people can't handle the fact that other people might want their spouse, and I would been like, well, who wouldn't want them? They're awesome, you know, and that's a bound. Some people are just naturally jealous and some people aren't. I think it
is validating when somebody wants my partner, you know. I think it's it's like, of course they do feel like a healthy jealousy, is what you're saying. Yeah, I think it's like like just validation. She's leaving with me. Yeah, she's my girl. I'm leaving with her, so good. I get that. But the purpose of that show these people going on.
I don't question the people who are the temptees. I more questioned the people that are like, We're going to go on the show and see if some hotty can break us up. I would never bring my spouse on that show. I wouldn't either. I went there as a single, and I've even thought about it so many times, like should I go on this? There was a point where I was just going to back out because I'm like, how's this going to make me? Look? But I mean I went
and yeah, where where do you film this show? We were in Hawaii? So literally an island. Yeah, we were literally on an ale. Do you know had you been to Hawaii before? No? Okay, well, South Florida, you know, go to Hawaii. The beaches are nice. Did they tell you ahead of time that you're going to go to Hawaii? Yeah, we already knew. So even when I was being casted for the show, I already knew what the show was right away and where it
was going to be filmed. Do they tell you how long you're going to be gone? They said it could be potentially up to a month. So I pretty much packed like three bags for like a month. So they tell you how much clothes to bring. They actually it's a whole process. You have to take a photo of you wearing every single outfit you're going to bring for them to approve it and send it like in an email, and then they tell you what they want you to like bring, like you can't wear
stuff with logos on it, Yeah, stuff like that. But they also want to know that you're going to look good because you have to be properly tempting, right, I assume so, and I guess aesthetics, you know, they want to make sure not everybody's like repeating these same colors and whatnot. Like even when they came to our room for our photo shoot, they like made me try on so many different clothes for our photo shoot to make sure the girls were all like now, is are you assigned a couple that
you're supposed to break up? Or is it just a big pile? No, just a big pile. You just like see who you're interested in, and you just like go and mingle. And actually, for the first time in Temptation history, we got to mingle with the couples where like we met them and like everybody stayed in the same house and we got to talk to like the girlfriends the boyfriends, and it was just like not what everybody was expecting and how much alcohol is there. We're limited to like two or three
drinks. Oh so they're not trying to get you wasted. No, Okay, I'm here with Marjorie. She's talking about Temptation Island. But I'm going to get into why I brought here here, but that I really want to talk about on all this, I will. I got to take a quick break because we have to pay for trips to Hawaii and other things around here. We will be back right after this, and we are back. So here's why I brought you in. It is a challenge in the business world.
It is a challenge in the dating world to balance you want to stand out and you want to be noticed. On the other hand, you don't want the attention of people who either have no value to creep you out whatever. How do you balance your public life, your social media life, your reality TV life with attention and then doesn't that part of that freak you out and been like, I don't want anybody to notice. I want to be
left alone. I don't want these guys to bother me. I don't want these fans because suddenly when you go on a reality show, it's not like you grow up being an actor and actress singing or your son of you. Suddenly you have a lot of haters. Yeah, you have a lot of jealous women. You have a lot of creepy dudes. How do you balance that with still I want to be out there and be public and keep that balance. How do you do that? Honestly, I don't know myself,
Like sometimes I just I have deactivated my Instagram before. I won't do it now because I have so many things that I want to like work on and like I aspire to be so much more. But it is hard because if you see someone out like first I used to get seen now and people would be like, oh, you're an influencer, Marge, you're an Instagram Like I don't consider myself an influencer, So I think that was always really like weird and awkward because guys always have something bad to say about that, like
something negative, when I don't even thinking anything negative. But I don't know. It is tough. I don't really know. We're all trying to influence. If you're a realtor with a with a sign on a bus bench, or you're a personal injury attorney with a Billboard on ninety five. You're trying to stand out, be the the that person, the influencer in your industry,
in your personal life. You're also trying to sort of cast a big net, capture the notice of people, and then sort of shuffle through it and been like these are the ones I want, these are the discard pile. Yeah, totally. That's a challenge. Yeah, it's really tough, and you don't want to make anyone feel like they're like you're like better than them. No, you know, but I've come a long way with like just like relationship and friendships that like if you aren't adding, like filling my
cup, then I don't want you around me. And it's not because of like you're not at the same wavelength I am, as far as like status, like I've been on TV and you haven't. It's just I need to, like I don't know state of myself sometimes. So when you were in high school, were in high school around here, Yes, I grew up here, Carefield Beach right down the street, and you had some notoriety in high school. How did the high school people react to that, I mean,
she's not a virgin. Well, honestly, it was like I was always like well known and popular. I don't know why, like in middle school and in high school, and a lot of the girls, like especially the cheerleaders, they did not like me for whatever reason. But like I was that girl that always like put herself together, always did my makeup for school, and you could never say one negative thing about me other than like
hate me for whatever, for my physical because I was a virgin. I didn't sleep around with anybody, I didn't get with anybody, but I was hated for no reason. Yeah, no, I get that too. So does it bother you more, either online or in real life? Comments from women or comments from men, Like what's worse the haters or the creepers? I mean they both, they're both bad, I think men. I think men to talk like shit about girls is just so weird, Like you're a
man, like stay in your lane. They talk about what they can't get. Yeah, there's always like she's a bitch, she's lesbian. I think that's really weird. They need to come up with the reason why you're not interested in that. Yeah, because girls are catty and envious. But like for a man to say something because none of my I confide in my male friends because they're not envious and they're men, they're not women. So for a man to say negative things about me, which I've had said before with
like other articles about me online, like I think it's super weird. How do you not respond? Or do you respond? I don't respond? Ever, did you No? I've learned of my attorneys to not respond, but you must have at some point You'll be like, I, it's really hard to keep your mouth shut. Oh T Did's so hard because I'm so straightforward and I'm like very confrontational, so like I like to check people and put them in their place. But you know, sometimes silence is like the best
way to go. Is the reality show that you thought about doing or got asked to do and you didn't do it, and you're like, shit, I should have done amazing race after the reality show, Like when I got eliminated first, I was like, uh, I kind of regret going, but also I don't regret it because I had such a great experience and I would like to do another show, like another dating show. Are you eliminating? Is do they have an exclusive for a certain amount of time? Like
you can't go do the Bachelor for like a year. Yeah, it's like six months. We have a contract until after the air date, so you're home free. Maybe that was June. Yeah, yeah, okay, it's almost you're almost home free by the time they start testing again. What did you what was different about the reality TV experience than you expected? Did you
get used to having all the cameras around? What was what was like, Oh, this is kind of not what I was expecting, honestly because I've been on reality TV before, but they came here to film me in my life. It was different than because I got to live in a villa this time with people. But I guess just really the fact that like they don't pressure you to do anything or say anything like my producers or like in and out, just like chatting with us, making sure we're all good, and
like you just go on and live your life. And the camera people they're only there really at night for the parties and it's like three men and the rest is just like cameras all around the house that it's like filming you are you miked the whole time, You're micd the whole time, so we're in the mic pack. So you literally wake up, you get COVID tested and then you go into the room and stay hi to your person. It's the
guy in the morning of the girl. I really forgot their name. And then they just mic you up. And then you go into the kitchen. You live your life like there's nobody filming you, like going behind you miked up, miked up, that's the first thing you have to do before you get inside the house. Huh, COVID testing. So you did this, you film this during it was still COVID going on. Well, I don't
know if it was still really COVID. I don't know what Hawaii's regulations were them, but I guess they just wanted to make sure like no one had COVID. So we had to get COVID tested every single day because we filmed last year in two thousand and twenty two. Yeah, right, so October I still doing that then, Jesus, it's crazy. Yeah, Bobby rules on it. Then that you forget about the mics and the totally forget.
Did you totally forget? Because you'll be like talking like about somebody or like and next thing you know, you're like, oh my god, they can hear me. You're like, oh, oh my god, I have to go pee, and then I'm like, hey, sorry, I'm saying this out. The mic is on you all all the time. When you go pee, it's on you, Like we got three cameras on us. Now I almost forgot that exactly. You just forget So you didn't obviously find love on this? Yeah, and did you? What did you learn about yourself?
Though you're able to survive a flight to Hawaii? I feel like I learned that I truly have come a really long way because I have been in a back and forth relationship with my ex boyfriend for like, legit four or
five years. That like when I put my foot down last year in August, the show was presented to me in September, I filmed in October and being around those couples and just seeing everybody's like reactions, and they were so reactive that I'm like, Wow, I'm not like you guys, actually, like I've not in a bad way, but like the whole toxic relationship,
I'm like, wow, I'm so glad. That's like, but you weren't right, so you want to I have been there, right, so I've realized that, like, wow, I have evolved so much being here, like seeing the outsiders. I was like, oh my god, I really have really come a long way. So it became like almost like a friend to the boys, like for them to confide in what was the most toxic thing about your toxic relationship? I feel like just gaslighting and just like not
really supportive. It just like one day wanted to be with me and one day we didn't want to be with me. But it was like on for five years. That's a long that's a lot of days on, a lot of days off. It's a long. That's five years in your twenties too, right, that's a valuable time lash, yeah, one hundred percent. And you know you it's what's the point, what's the point of going with that back and forth? Like just end it and move on with your life.
Right, But then they're like they don't want you, but they don't want anybody else to have you. And then you get into that exact question exactly, and then they are because you are very public and they're watching you on your social media and then they're like, oh, she looks good. That wasn't my access situation. I would feel like, but I mean he's irrelevant anyways, I forget he exists. Thankfully after five years of back and
forth. It's terrible. Now you're forgettable after five years and back and forth. Should have been it's all long overdue. When you wake up in the morning, do you have you plotted out your social media posts for the day? No? Are you going to give them the OOTD? Are you going to like? Have you? Or is it just oh, this is going to make good content? What is the thought process for my social media posting?
Yeah, honestly, I've changed my social media posting too. I used to love like working with brands and just like collaborating, but now I don't want to do that, so I'm being really low key on social media. Now you're a brand, right, So now I'm starting my own brand. I'm starting I'm launching a bikini line, so I want to focus on that. And I just don't want to be posting the same content that I was posting before because that's just irrelevant. And I've evolved so much so I don't
plan anything out every single days. And so how does one launch a bikini line? Because me and McKay in the other room, we're probably not launching are you like? This is what I want to war? And this doesn't exist or it's pretty much what I look good in in this No, because you're Brazilian by descent, is that accurate? Correct? Yeah? The Brazilians are the queens of the bikini. We are and we love the beach.
We love literally the beach, so I love it here too. I'm always in a bikini, but yeah, pretty much when I'm creating something that's like versatile, so it's you can be worn like day or night. And it's not just bikinis, it's beach where too. It's your work bikini. Pretty much going to the office, we need in office bikini. Weear like Lulu Lemon made workout Woman Workout where functional and fun exactly. You're on it all
right, this is your first time on this podcast. We play something called worst date or first date, So you either have to give us the absolute worst date you've ever been on or the best first date you've ever been on, your choice, and we hope we're gonna have to think about this because I don't give people the time of day. I haven't been on a day in a while, I know, but you've been dating a long time, so it's like, what was the worst date you've ever been on, or
really the greatest first day you've ever ready. Your choice doesn't have to be bad. It could be good or bad. Honestly, I would say the best day that I've ever went on was when one of my friends came down into town and we actually went We had like a private tour in Miami with like all of the animals and we got to hand feed one of the savannah cats. So that was it. Like a zoo. It was a zoo. Yeah, I forgot the wild I forgot the name of the zoo somewhere
in Miami, but it was like two years ago, Miami Zoo. I don't know if there is, but it was like a private tour, like just us to the entire zoo. Oh really yeah, it was really cool how they set that up. That's a really good date. How they set that up. I mean he just did it helps that men, it's private tours. Good for him. Yeah, men like animal. If a man likes an animal, women tend to like that. Oh I love me a man that loves animals and a man that's like a golden retriever pretty much like
personality so loyal. Yeah, like sweet those men those when to fetch not so much like I need you to be like, you know, a man in like not be too emotional. But yeah, I haven't been to that many zoos, but I think I always think zoos are kind of mean. No, totally, but a lot of the people who work at the zoos say they don't know anything else, and they are treated most zoos so well. For sure. I asked all the questions because I'm a huge animal lover,
so when I was there, were asked. I was asking them like all the questions like do you guys take care of them? Do you guys like feed them daily? Do you guys do this? And they really do. They do take care of the animals, of course, because I went to the aquarium in Atlanta, which is like the biggest aquarium in the world, and they have this giant tank and there's a shark in there, and
I go, how come the shark isn't just eating all the fish? Yeah, because you figure that's all sharks really want to do is eat there's fish all over the place, they're swimming around. Why don't they eat other things? And they said that, first of all, they keep them well fed, so they don't want to eat off cycle and they basically said, sharks are incredibly lazy and they don't want to chase anything, so they only want like wounded things and dead things and and all that kind of stuff. I
was like, oh, fun fact, Yeah that makes sense. I was curious, all right, this was fun plug. And first of all, what happened to that guy in the second? Is the second date after the after the zoo? Yeah, we spent like topic No, we actually spent like the whole weekend together. But this was like two years ago. We're just like really good friends. Now he doesn't want to hear that. That's so sad, like getting friend zone. Yeah, he got friends, so
he took you to the zoo. I feel like I'm the weekend and now he's at friend zoning. Yeah, like pardon me, I can't commit like I want to. And then I'm afraid too because of like I just feel like I have so much other things I need to focus on. But then I do want to, like thanks for the kids, I got to focus next, and then uh no, not going to be the father of my babies? Like what is that conversation? No, Like, how do you
friend zone them? You know? Like I was totally into it, Like while we spent time together and then like you know, bunts went on and we just didn't talk and we didn't talk for a year. And now I'm like not interested in that way, but I can take you to the zoo. Let's go back to the zoo. Yeah, but you know, things change. Oh, I'm interested in other people now because now you want to have babies. Yeah, Okay, that's a different point too. You date,
You can't waste five years when that's your focus. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't. I not always say that I wanted to have kids when I was like really young, and I did, like I TMI, but I did get pregnant when I was twenty three with my ex. So I feel like that affected me for like two years and I'm past that now. But like all my friends have kids, all of them are engaged
in all them, you know, just have their life. Well you're to wait five years till they're all getting divorced and they all hate the kids, right. I get it. If you dodged a bullet, it's not perfect, and I don't stress about it anymore. I used to stress about it. But I also am not just going to entertain you if you're just going to waste my time if we're not on the same wavelength. Can you be
asked out by somebody in target? I can somebody just go up to you and be like, hey, I saw you in the band aids section. You want to go out? Have to do a whole process. I mean, I don't know, you're really sweet. I'm like, it's not you, it's me. I'm focused on myself right now, right, But if you're focus on yourself, then five years go by, I know, no, and it's not easy to date a girl who's focused on herself. And same thing with men. Men always use that line. I feel like,
not necessarily with me based on my career. They do all that well because you just don't want anyone to take away from like what you're doing, what you want to like achieve in life, you know, because I feel like when I was in my relationship, it was like that he was never supportive. He was always just kind of making like rude comments. So if you're going to have someone that's not a support system, then what's the point. Totally agree, you should be able to do both. You should be able
to build your empires with the support of each other. Right, you should be able to do that. If you're going to entertain anybody, whether you're like friends with benefits like having sex with them, I think it needs to be someone that it's a lease up to your standards, where like you could potentially have a future with because if you guys aren't on the same wavelength, you're like, you're a big YouTuber and she's not doing anything, Like how
do you guys even relate? And you don't want anybody to hold you back. No, somebody's going to hold you back there. They're not going to need somebody to boost you up and encourage you one hundred percent. We have to be in the same that's hard to find career because people are going to be like, well if she gets you know, I've known a lot of girls who dated guys in bands, and they always admit to me they're secretly rooting for them to fail because they know if they become big stars, they're
probably gone. That's you can't have that in a relationship. That is like terrible, I think, I know, but it's true. They're like, they get their record deal, they're going to go on tour, and they're going to leave me. Wow, Yeah, that's crazy. But so they admit it. They're like, yeah, I kind of want them to be just enough to pay the bills, but not enough to be a star. Crazy. Just so many people are like envious and it's wild they are.
You can't be envious of your spouse, No, you really can't. And if she's somebody or he's somebody who gets the spotlight or wants the spotlight or it's part of who they are, you have to jine that spotlight. That's part of the deal, right. I did one guy that was super supportive about that, like never questioned me. And then and he was younger than what I like my accent, and I was just like, wow, it's
so wild how some people are just so different. Like some people are really secure, Like it all comes down to, like insecurity, it's tough to get guys in their twenties, thirties, I guess any age to settle down, any age I get it to get off the ride. It's hard up until forties. And it's just yeah, stupid bastards, all right, tell everybody where they can find you, stock you and send you hateful messages. Marjorie Garacho m A r j ri E and yeah on Instagram you spelled the
Marjorie. You can spelled the garacha. That's the hard part really, because as soon as you type in Marjori, it's the only Marjorie that pops up. That's true. Yeah, it's just Marjorie. I suppose she'll come up Google Marjorie Temptation Island. I'm sure you've followed. Thank you. This was fun as far as far as us like share, follow, Please review this podcast. Your reviews mean a lot in the podcasting ecoss them. The tenth anniversary Live Great Love Debate show, it's coming up. Uh, it's actually
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