This is pod Populi Podcast for the People, The Great Love Debate. It's a Great Love Debate, The Great Love Debate. It's a Great Love Debate. Hi again everyone, It's Brian Howie. Welcome to the Great Love Debate, the world's number one Dating in a Relationship podcast. It's twenty fifteen. I am back here in the very fine studios of pod Populi Podcast for the People. I am at the one in Scottsdale, Arizona. I think last time I recorded here, I said that the temperature outside was surface of the
sun. Now I think the temperature outside is core of the sun. So I'm not sure we're going in the right direction here. Um. We talk about a lot of things on this show, and what we want and why we want it and how to get it and all those kind of things. Last episode I talked about what exactly mentally and emotionally that was. Today I kind of want to talk about physically and if there's anything physically either causes us to bond to another human being or causes us to want to bond to another
human being. So this is a little bit about my krip paygrade. So earliest morning, I shouted out, is there a doctor in the house and coincidentally and or fortuitously there is. He has all kinds of expertise, and he's got some very strong opinions, and he's got some innovative and interesting ideas when it comes to the love, dating and relationship stuff. He is the
author of Sugar Crush, which is gonna change your life. Hopefully he'll rewire the way your physiological makeup is. And the new book is called Unglued, and a podcast of the same name. Doctor Rick Jacoby, how are you. I'm great? That was great inro I think you've got the core temperature of this town. Yeah, I know. I mean, I guess that's why they call it summer. Somebody in God's tell me the comment that thank god it does get hot this hot, or everybody would live here. That's
probably why. Yeah, if it wasn't this hot, it's very nice when it's not this hot. But when it's this hot, it scares all of us New Yorkers and Californians away. So if somebody's bitten by the love bug, you were telling me that that's actually a real thing, Like that's that's not just some fairy tale, made up phenomena. That's something that you say happens to us physically. Yes. So this is really a concept that you
can read in Super Gut by William Davis who wrote Weat Belly. So I read his original book Weat Belly years ago and I use some of his material in my book Sugar Crush. My thesis is that sugar causes neurologic changes, and in the gut is where it starts. And there is an organism called the love bug, and that is a organism, one of a thousand. By the way, there's thousand organism live in the gut. They produce lots of different things, and this one, routiri, is the one that produces
oxytocin. Oxytocin is the love bug because it raises our desire for communication and bonding. And women know that more than we. So if you want to get a guy, you got to raise his oxytocin levels high. You can actually make him want to shop. You can make him want to shop. Yes, that said, yes, he will want to shop if you control him with the food that you give him and make sure there's bugs. That
organism produces that level of oxytocin. And oxytocin is related to sugar. How well, these all these organisms live in the gut, the small intestine. So let me let me go way back. So when I was writing Sugar Crush, I came up with the concept that all these neurologic diseases we hear about every day from carpal tunnel, diabetic, neuropathy, MS, autism, it goes on and on and on. Where is this sugar coming from. Well, we have a desire for sugar. We love sugar, and so
do bacteria. Bacteria love sugar, so they're gonna force you to eat what they like, not what you really want. Human beings are carnivores. They eat fat. They do not eat sugar. Now let me define what sugar is. There's a lot of sugars, mantois, galactose, fructose, glucose. Glucose is not sweet. You would not desire glucose. You only need one teaspoon four grams at any one time. Anything over that is toxic.
So what did they do? They tricked us. They took table sugar, which is a die soccer ride, meaning two sugars put together, fructose and glucose. Fructose is sweet. I want to more and more and more of that. While my glucose goes up, produces insulin. The gut bacterias say, oh, he wants or she wants glucose, and those organisms start to grow that need that, and one of those that needs the opposite is the routie species. So your need for oxytose or your production of oxytocin goes down,
so you're miserable. And that causes women to game weight, men to gain weight, and they're they're not on the same wavelength basically, and that's why we call them our sweetheart. That's so, that's true. Oxytocin. We have kind of generally kicked that term around everyone. Once in a while, somebody comes in and drops it. Women produce a higher level of oxytocin naturally, and then when they bond with another man it increases at a higher rate than men. Or is that not true. That's true, That is
true, fun fact everybody. Yeah, So they the reason they know that because drawing pregnancy that's when that does that. And so what one of his functions is to relax ligaments, So the birth canal has to be relaxed. If it's not, then that we have a problem with delivery. So it's an automatic So It causes a relaxation and a openness open intended for communication. And the male if he has a higher level of that, then he will too, so there's a bonding. That's why I say he'll we're apt to
shop. Can oxytocin be produced artificially? Can I take an oxytocin pill? I don't know if that's true or not, but let's get on that, doctors. If you have higher levels, are there ways to increase your level of oxytocin? You can increase it or decrease it by diet without bonding, and then will the oxytocin Oxytocin then, like ecstasy, create a desire to bond with another human being or it does it only get produced one you do an action. It all has, yes, it does. It all has
to do with the food you're eating. If you're feeding those organisms that want that molecule, then that will go up. If you feed it what they don't want, it'll go down. So men and women instead of being at the bar in the restaurant, they should walk around and see who is eating food that's going to produce oxytocin, and they're more likely to bond with it. I'm onto something right, you are you got a concept where oh yeah, I can see that right now. Oh look she looked at the dessert
menu. Uh huh yeah, I mean what are the what are the types? Is it just sugar? Is it bad? Foods? Are correlated to this? Is that? Of course? Is well? The fundamental men are carnivores. So let's break that apart, because women, although do like meat, are not as addicted to meat as men are. And physiological and anthropologically, men get up in the morning, let's go back one hundred thousand years ago. They step out of the cave, they scratch their ass. Where's
the next meal? They got to go hunt. They may be gone for two weeks. Meanwhile, the females in the cave were twelve babies. She's got to feed them, so fermented foods what you can find around the cave, tubers, potatoes, whatever. So she's more attuned to be a vegetarian to feed her kids. But bottom line, we as humans, we need B twelve. If we don't get B twelve, we're going to have anemia and all sorts of neurologic diseases. We've got to get meat carnivore, So
there's an automatic divide in our diets between men and women. We need meat, we need to be twelve. And they have them apt to produce more oxytocin than we could because we don't have that physiologic need for it. Because we get the meat in the B twelve, we get twelve. We don't deliver obviously, so we don't know what that feeling of oxytocin is. Now you ask, is there a synthetic Yes, oxygen I misspoke there can you get it? Actually you can get it CBS, I think you need.
Yeah, So there is a what they call trokes. Trokeyes. They're a little like drug palates you put between your gum and your lip and you can put different things in or like salis and oxytocin and other things. And some people do this to give them a sense of euphoria and connection. And that's why I always say, you do that, you're you're going to want to
shop with them. Normally you would not do that. Okay, okay, ladies, not to be sexist, but hear that, ladies, Um, we want more oxytocin or it confuses the brain and the heart in the body. I think it's a natural current. We're just not getting it normal with the grain based diet that we in the sad diet standard American diet. So women, women control the palate, so to speak, the control they used to control the dinner table so they could make the meal that could produce that.
They're not doing that now. We're all eating out, we all in the fast food world, so we're not getting that fuel that we need for that. So the American food supply and or diet is, for lack of a better term, junkier than just about anywhere else in the world it is. So do we then have a different um oxytocin reaction in this country? Is simply because of what we eat? I think? So. Yeah. If there's even a biblical verse Leviticus saying, whatever you feed man, I
can control his mind. Okay, yeah, and you can so by what you eat. And who controls what we eat? Right now? I mean, we get in the conspiracy theory, but we're eating grains, We're eating lots of sugar, genetically modified foods. The vegas nerve is what's involved here, and those messages go up the vegas nerve to the hippocampus, the brain part where interposed these things, and we're familiar with the little chap of Horrors that play Seymour feed me. They're saying, feed me. They want sugar,
they want sugar. They're gonna kill You're gonna make you feel bad. And that's white people when they try to get off of carbohydrates, which is sugar, right, they feel lousy. I'm going to make you feel lousy. Don't you dare not feed me. I will make you feel lousy. I'll kill you. So a natural craving for things that are ultimately bad for us but satisfy us exactly dating in a nutshells. But that's that's um, that's what we're taught. So there's a concept that sugar is a gateway drug,
right, because what do we do. We give them formula, which is sugar. Breast, milk is fat, that's what the kids should have, but we're we give them sugar. So we had this cascade of more and more sugar, and that is a gateway drug to higher and higher levels of addiction of other euphoric causing drugs. Pediolite is closer to gatorade than it is to anything but a baby should want, right, Absolutely, that's exactly what it is. So we get hooked on it at a young age.
I hope you guys are hooked on this podcast. I gotta take a quick break because we gotta pay for not pediolite, but maybe some gatorade. Around here. I'm with doctor Rick Jacoby. We will be back right after this. And we are back, and we are swatting at the love bug around here. A woman has a physical intimate moment with a man, what her body than instantly or the next day, has the again not to stereotype, but we sterotype around here at the Great Love Debate. She loves him,
she likes him more, she feels connected to him more. What happens in those minutes hours after a physical encounter. I think the oxytocin levels start to go up, that feeling of connection goes up, and that process is a mating signal, and that's why she feels that. And usually the meal that's surrounding that event has a lot to do with it, and that can accentuate or it could destroy that feeling as well. And that signal goes to the heart, the brain, the whole body. Where's it? Where's it you
brought up that nerve before? Where's it going that that I'm don't think it confuses her, but it clouds judgment. I don't know this rush of this naturally produced drug, well, I think it does. It goes well. First of all, it's the vaguest nerve that's in Latin the wandering nerve. So that nerve goes to everybody really function autonomic functions, so the liver, the pancreas, the stomach, and then it goes up the vegas nerve to
the brain, to a structure called the hippocampus. Hippocampus is really Latin for a seahorse. Seahorse, so you see it, that structure, very small, it looks like a sea horse. And what does it do it It stores memory. The memory is very important because that oxytocin triggers that memory of the time and when all these family oriented events happened, and so that gives
that person a feeling of connectedness. And that's number one. Number two, it's a sense of smell or factory nerve that knows so when you're having a meal, the smell of that meal also activates oxytocin, and so that's another portion of it. Since we have a doctor in the house, I'm gonna ask all kinds of things. So what are you brought up the smell? What are pheromones? Well, see, that's another thing. Pheromones are what
we smelled the environment from trees. Um, that's the whole environment that you actually can communicate with trees by pheromones. That's what ayahuasca is all about. Getting that talking to the trees. Yeah, talking to the trees. I know, drugs, kids, it's fantasia. That's but a woman who is attracted to a man a lot of times, that's what that's what she's picking up on. Yeah, said the natural musk of the man. Yes,
so you had the flowers. That's why flowers are important relationships because they're getting that sense of connection and all these all of these are part of that process. So first encounter with the woman usually is over a meal. Yeah, when you think about it, So restaurants really don't cater to that anymore because they want to turn the tables quickly. Right, it's not a leisurely three hour date. Get to know each other exactly, get them and get them
out, ye, which at least the less less of an encounter. Now, how long does the high Probably isn't the right word, but we'll just use that the high of the oxytocin. How long does that last after before it gets back to naturally occurring levels? Is it hours? Days? It's probably in a sense of hours because it's related to the diet cycle, so it's so it has to be continually done to keep that level high. Let's bring up the diet thing for a minute, because you're in fantastic shape.
I don't know how old you are, you're slightly older than me. All obviously, the key to dating is being attractive. I think, yeah, it is. It's the key to dating, to being attractive. I don't care about having a good personality. The key to dating is being attractive. Let's start there. And all of us need to be healthier, all of us. I don't care who you are listening to this. We all need to be healthier. We all need to be in a bit better shape,
and we all need to take better care of our bodies. I touched on it earlier in America, even when we think we are eating healthy just because we're not eating fast food, and fast food is not good. There's so much crap in our food. When I go over to I don't know, Europe, Asia, wherever I eat a whole lot, and I feel like I don't gain as much weight because I don't know. I just think that the food is better. Not to get too controversial around here, but we
are going to get controversially around here. What is different about the American bread? Oh? Boy, you just opened up Pandora's box. They here's this simple off the bread. Kids. So I'm writing all the time, reading, so I have writers on my staff and I have to explain this question like that they don't understand. Well, maybe I didn't explain it right, so I have to dig deep into the answer. Well, let's let's take a Ukraine war. Let's be political. Crane is the bread basket for Europe?
Yes, their flag the blue and the yellow is literally the sky and the yellows the grain. You got it? Yeah, okay, so let's start right there. Putin did not want John Deere and Mansano, who offered Ukraine fourteen and a half billion dollars about a week before the invasion, to put genetically modified food into Europe, which is what we have exactly, And that's why you feel when you go like to Italy. Let's just take autism.
And we did a podcast yesterday on autism, and that's a big woman's issue because essentially the woman's going to get stuck with the caregiver matter what we say. Right, we'll get a still traditionally that is the case. We'll get a job at circle K to make the money. But we're not going to change diapers. Let's face it, Okay, we're not. So the
genetically modified food, let's dig down them. What is that stuff? So, glyphisate is the active ingredient that Monsanto makes to allow plants to grow with all the weeds around them being killed. So they genetically modified the corn crop the seed so you can grow that spray it with round up, which is glyphosate. Let's go into that word glyphosate itself. So this is the physiology behind it. So glycine is amino acid, most common amino acid in human
body. So you take glycine, glypho and lipho sate, which is the phosphate you attach that glyph that phosphate molecule to that gets into the genome so it's impervious to the round up their spraying. I just found this out a couple of months ago. Of all the spring the corn crop, only one out of a thousand droplets hit the crop itself. The rest goes into the soil gets washed down the Mississippi Mississippi. So here's my metaphor analogy that I'll
give you to. It's the answer to the question. So, and some of this is in William Davis Davis's book super Gut. So let's take the Mississippi as a metaphor for the elementary canal the human being. So we have the upper portion of the estuary is the Mississippi River, and then we have the stomach. Then we have the small bow. The small bow is twenty four foot long. The large coal is not that long. So the waste
product. So let's say the f fluin down the Mississippi is down at the bottom, down towards and arms, and but that is starting to migrate up to Mississippi up the bow into the small intestine. That's called CEBO small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. So now it's coming up that twenty four miles feet of the small bell. That's where nutrients are being absorbed. Now they're not absorbing nutrients, we're absorbing effluent. So the term for the entire absorption of the elementary
canal is called the fetalization of the elementary canal. So I say, when I'm doing my lectures, does that mean Americans are full of shit? Yes, apparently great listeners. That's the crux of it. It is. So we're out there telling the world we're the greatest country in the world, which we are. But you go to France, you go to Italy and you're eating old days. Yes, oh my god. And they're skinny. Of course, they do smoke, and yeah, maybe they walk more than we
do, and they drink wine all day long, and they're healthy. Autism, their autism levels are extremely low. This year US one in twenty bursts. One in twenty have autistic characteristics. When I started my writing on this subject, it was sixteen bursts per ten thousand a year, two thousand. Is it meteorites causing this problem? Of course, it's got to be something simple. What is it? It's high fruit toast corn syrup. That's what's in every food item in the United States, made with life and sate,
and we're dy of any grocery store. That's what it is. That's the answer. And so we don't have the biggest population, we're like fifth, fourth, fifth in it does the big population countries like India China, do they not do the same thing to their food supply? They yes, they do. They have bigger population, of course, but percentage wise they're going up. Now I'm old enough. I am old. So forty years ago Surgeon General all the Taiwan asked me to go over there and figure out why
they had diabetes. Forty years ago, nineteen eighty one. So his name is Luke Chew. He's a medical doctor who got a PhD in pharmacology. Four star general. A great guy. Taught me how to play golf. Really in Taiwan. The question was, why are we getting diabetes? I said, what's the word in Mandarin for diabetes? He said diabetes. I said, well that's a Greek word. What's your word? Well, we don't really have one. Well, you didn't really have the disease either,
so why would you need a word. It's sugar. Didn't know that in nineteen eighty one. I was there, told on and off till eighty three, and I said, well, it's your diet. I don't know what's in the diet. It's not amazing. I'm thinking, what's different. First fast food restaurant in nineteen seventy nine. I'm there in eighty one and their numbers are gone up. So the last day I was there, I'm in
the eleventh story of the research building. I took all the sciences. They're smart people and they're a lot of fun too, by the way, take them over. Look down there. Here's a fast food restaurant, and you can see these kids, and everybody there is as skinny as can be. But the rich, real little kids are fat coming out of this restaurant. I said, that's your problem. What's in that? I don't know, but it's high fruit tose, corn syrup. Now, everything that's good is
bad for us. But we do, you know, even in the romantic sense. We give chocolates, we have little heart shaped candies, we share a dessert together, we go out for ice cream, all of those things. It's romantic because it's sweet, but ultimately it not only does it cause behavioral up and downs because we're so riddled with sugar, it really causes sort of a biological breakdown that we are not supposed to be doing this. We're
not supposed to be consuming all of this. Exactly. Case in point, my granddaughter, she's eleven, went to her play was on Joseph Poultzer. She was his secretary Hannah in the play, and it was really quite good and she she had a lot of fun. But of course you go out to eat afterwards, traditional for all things like that. She wanted ice cream. Well do I deny her on that? She now have some ice cream? Can you have ice cream? Yes, it's fine. But this is
what I said to her dad. I said, I'm gonna buy her for her birthday, which is next week. I'm going to buy her ice cream making because I think of the word ice cream. It's ice cream. There's no sugar. Ice cream. Originally, when Washington was eating it, he ate it every day. They took cream and he froze it. That's what it is. Well, ice cream today is ice sugar. It should be called ice sugar. I asked a guy who one of my patients, who big, I said, why don't you call it I sugar? You laughed,
Well, no one's going to buy that. Well, you're defrauding them. Yeah, you're the So the physiological downfall of the American public started with what coca cola. I mean, is that the biggest influx of like a foreign um burst of sugar that happened in this country. I would say so because they did tremendous amount of advertising. Of course they laced it with cocaine too, that helped. Are you drank up kids? Um? Yeah,
I agree with that, So if we want to. You know, this is not initially a dietary podcast, but everything is about feeling good and putting out the best version of yourself. Telling people to just quit sugar is unrealistic. Telling people to eat better is unrealistic. Is there one change that everybody pretty easily can made that will help them ten percent and probably level off their moody boody swings? Yes? I was in sugar hug growing up. I
did not know that. Now I'm a doctor. I had my gallbladder out. I don't know twenty five years ago. Maybe you're more and my mother had a gallbladder out. Well, what's the diet? Don't eat don't eat fat. All of a sudden, I realized that I was eating carbohydrates. But I went to the gym every day, so I looked good. I was strong, but inside I was not. Call bladder is a muscle, just like your hand. Nerve is the vegas nerve Again gallbladder doesn't empty.
You get a stone, hurts like hell and you have to take it out. The diet should be fat, not go off a fat, eat fat. That's what I do. So I put butter in my coffee. Did fifteen years butter in your coffee? Oh yeah, there's a there's a football player I got drive to put his mayonnaise in his coffee. I say, while that, yeah, yes, And he's right, because oh yeah, what what is a mayonnaise, egg and olive oil. It's probably better than sugar if you think about it. I mean we sugar up our coffee.
I mean a lot of you out there, Starbucks fans, you're basically going for a milkshake when you're going at somebody, somebody. Let's talk about that. So I'm over at the hospital here in scott Stale and I'm sitting outside of Starbucks, and mostly women go to Starbucks. I was surprised because I don't go there. I don't like their coffee. It's too bitter. Well, how do you I drink their iced tea? So I don't know. How do you make their coffee taste good? You put sugar in right?
Coffee is expensive. Sugar is cheap. You can take a ten not ten cents my world. But you know, you take a cheap black coffee, add sugar and you've got ten times the price for it. So there's women are walking in and out, and I'm sitting next to the hospital and I have surgery in the morning. This is so weird. I'm watching it say, Okay, this is sugar. This is source of sugar. And I go across the street to the hospital, do my surgery for the morning.
Then I leave to go to my office which is close and on the corner it's shay there. Over there is the cemetery, and I go sugar sick dead. Yeah, that's the sequence. Don't put that in your motto, your slogan. Stocks. Yeah, So if you went back in the nineteen fifties, then when we people drinking coffee like crazy, they weren't sugaring it up. Then when do we start to sugar our coffee. It's been around
forever. But remember originally they were putting sugar glucoset. Then they did the dye saccharide, which is a table sugar and cane sugar and that sort of thing. But once in nineteen seventy four they Actually it was Japanese made high fru corn syrup. And what is that. It's a liquid form of fruke TOAs and it can be put in anything. I could take your chair that you're sitting on, make it in a powder, add high fruit corn syrup to it, and you would eat that and say that's the best goddamn chair.
I really had my life fruke toast up my shoe and yeah, pretty good. Oh yeah, I'll throw the clothes were out, just eat them. Because artificial food, it's fiat food. It's fake food, right, sugared, fake money, fake food, fake people. How are they going to make this genetically grown meat? How are they gonna make the meat? It's another fiat. We don't want to do that. We want to get
the back to the inferno out there. So one of my writers said, well say, and she's kind of on the opposite side of my opinion. Oh see, it's big governments, be big this. No, it's human beings. Poor Bessie the cow. She was sitting out there in the forties munching away on the grass, and we had a war. So the government went over and say, hey, Bessie, we need you for the war. Effort. Let's feed you corn, fatten her up in six months,
and they've never stopped doing that. Cows don't eat corn, they eat grass. They're ruminators. They make make A six or make Mega three fatty assids. And you're giving them corn, which makes them Mega six. That's very eat toxic. Well, how do we get them to eat? Why are they eating the corn? Are we sugar in the corn? Yes, corn is carbohydrates, right, so they're gonna eat it. They just don't naturally eat it. Oh no, but that's the only thing for dinner. And
I in Kansas in those CAFOs. So we're eating meat that's produced by sugar and we're getting a Mega six fatty acid. That's all my book. It gets a little deep, but no, no, you don't. But it tastes so good. Mega six is sweet fat, but it's not good fat. You want Mega three, which is great fat. Well, that's the carnivore diet. All you have to do is eat a very little amount of meat a day and you're satisfied. If it's the right meat, a bigger three, right, so you could eat that. So here's what happens.
So let's say you eat a lot of breakfast list. Quaker oats, there's a killer food, you know. Oh it's hard healthy. Yeah, it's full shit. Oh no, well they paid the American Heart Association and get that. It's all. It's all, well, back to the heart. It's heart healthy. Yeah, everything is chasing the heart making it. If your heart's good, you're gonna fall in love and produce oxytocin and have babies who are going to eat drink pedia lte and sugar up all the way through
exactly. So you eat the circle of life. You start with Quaker oats, taste like crap anyway, and then you got to put sugar on it or fruit and keep doing that. You can never get the bottom of that bowl, and you will be hungry all day long. You'll produce a lot of insulin. Insulins the only hormone that can store fat on the body. So eat that and you will be fat. Look at the food pyramid, it's six to eleven helping themselve carbohydrates on the bottom. Guaranteed if you follow
the government's advice, you'll be three hundred pounds. Yeah. They The food pyramid is sort of generally looked at. It is to big oops well, it's paid. It's a pay to play. Yeah, no, we screwed that up right. You want to get on the bottom of that, you pay to get on there. If it's the top is the things that don't make any money, that's our government USDA, and you know, it's just
human nature. And if they want to sell food that's cheap and profitable, then of course we have the medical system, which unfortunately part of all these hospitals. Have you noticed all the big hospitals going up in Arizona? Yeah, oh my god, big money in sick people. Yes, they're after you're a gall bladder. If you have your gallbladder, you better be careful. Don't have an action in front of the If I don't have a gallbladder, I just take a pill, all right. Or we don't need a
gallbladder. It's like a pendix. Yeah, you don't need it, you know, but it's very valuable. About a million a year taken out in the United States. Um see, great love listeners. You don't know what you're gonna get when you tune in here. That's the glory of having a podcast for so long and having such a loyal audience. You're gonna dig deep dives on all kinds of subjects with me. This is all related to love dating relationships though, because, as we talked about at the beginning, get
bitten by the love bug. You need to know what it is. You need to be able to understand your own physiological and emotional reaction to what is happening or what kind of could happen or what did happen? All those kind of things. Yeah, we play something as your first time on the podcast. We play something called worst date or first date. So think back to your swinging single twenties or whatever, and say, what was the best date you've ever had, best first date you've ever had, or the worst date
you've ever went on if you have one. Well, the best first date was my first wife. I remember that then. It was over dinner and it was in Philadelphia, where I'm from, and she must have fed me a lot of oxytocin because it worked the cheese steak in Philly. Yeah, there you go, but that is true. You brought that up earlier.
That's that was a really good point that we sort of glossed over. The dinner is getting shorter and getting churned, getting in and out and get to the drink really doesn't provide that hour and a half of relaxation to get to know each other that we really used to do on dates. The dating has changed, the time spend on the data has changed. People don't even now on a first date want to commit They're like, oh no, that seems
like a long dinner, and they don't want to commit to that. They're scared of like wasting their night on or two hours of time with something they might not like. We used to do that all the time. We used to go out to dinner and sit there until we get to know each other and not feel rushed. Music, environment, table cloths. Yeah, that's all important. It is changes. It's really not about the meal. It's about the communication, the setting and the ambiance, and you know, you
want to go out to a romantic dinner. People don't want to do that on a first date anymore. It's they're scared of it. They want to carry the tray and then go plea minuture golf. I guess all right, plug your books please. Well, Sugar Crush been out there for about nine years. It's still a pretty good seller because now the message that I had is in there about all these different diseases. But I think you're gonna like unglued, which will should have come out this month, but I keep adding
stuff to it. I can't stop people listening to this in twenty twenty six. It's probably out by now. Okay. So my big point in unglued is, yes, you're eating sugar. You're forty fifty sixty years old. Big Okay, I got the damage? How do I get rid of it? And stem cells are the real message in unglued? How can you reverse the effects of sugar? And stem cells in all its form believe me, fixes anything? Really? Oh yeah, because stem cells is this is what
I say. Stem cells don't give a rat's ass what you call your itis. I have this every day. Well, you don't understand doctor blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Do you think they understand that they don't speak English. I've been to doctor Arden's clinic and Animal, which is the best clinic or internationally, and they don't speak Spanish either. They just go where the inflammation caused the damage. It's that simple. Stem cells will fix your broken heart. Oh I like that? All right, this was fun.
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