This is pod Populi Podcast for the People, the Great Love Debate. It's the Great Love Debate, the Great Love Debate. It's a Great Love Debate. Hi again, Everyone's Brian Howie. Welcome to the Great Love Debate, the world's number one Dating in a Relationship podcast. It's two thousand and fifteen. I am here in the very fine studios of pod Populi Podcast for the People. I am back at the one in Scottsdale, Arizona, the full scots Dazzle, and I've been teasing this UM episode for about three weeks.
Why am I recording this in Scottsdale. Scottsdale, as I have mentioned several times, is the number two place for bachelorette parties, and at any giving time, there are about fifty UM trolley's party buses, limos and just gaggles of drunk chicks with bad veils and penis straws and matching T shirts and all that shit talking about their bachelorette party. It's number two behind Nashville. We'll get into that shortly. Vegas isn't number one anymore for bachelorette parties and bachelor
parties. A lot come here to the valley of the sun because they want to golf and then do some bad things, and there's some quality adult entertainment here in here. So I asked you guys, starting about three weeks ago, I wanted you guys to send me some of your bachelor and bachelorette stories, experiences, horrors, all of that kind of stuff. Two of you. We got over seven hundred things, so we've been sifting through them. Two of you said ones where people died, and I'm not gonna use those.
I feel like one of those was a plot of a movie somewhere, but two people just like, yeah, and then somebody died. I don't I'm going to leave those for another day. Um. I want to get into ones that are sort of interesting and ones I have some comments on. But I have not been the bachelor, as you guys know. I've never I mean, is weird you're a bachelor party. I've never been engaged,
you're married to gotten that far. I haven't gone to as many bachelor parties as I used to because I like to say, Um, I like to earn my nudity, and I feel like it comes a little too cheap and easy. I want to I want to earn it. I want you to take your clothes off because you liked me, and so I haven't. I haven't done many, but I'm going to get to my personal story. But I brought in some pros here, not bachelor and bachelorette parties, but pros
in terms of podcasting. And they know this. They've both been on this before. He is the host of the very very popular Secrets of a Sugar Daddy podcast. The Esteemed Marcus Damn glad to be here and reformed sugar Baby. Yes, sugar Baby Emeritus. Amy's back in the house. How are you good? Great? What do you think it is about Scottsdale that incur that makes this such a bachelorette haven? When did it become this? Because I've been here as long as you have to do, markets would know this
well. I've definitely noticed it right just right here where we record. Yeah, sometimes we'll go out for a lunch or breakfast or you know, snacks after the podcast, and there's girls in pink hats, pink shirts riding these bikes that you pedal around town and get completely wasted. It looks like a lot of fun. It is. We're right in the heart of old town. Scottsdale here and it is disproportionately until about nine pm, it's like ninety
percent women here. Yeah, it's very groups of women. The guys are I don't know what the guys are doing, golf and gambling, sleeping, napping. Later at night they go out. But it is the strangest thing. You see these wine bars packed with women. You know, it's one of the reasons we really enjoy recording in old Dallas. Got there really are as packs of women now. I mentioned this on the last podcast of the podcast before. About fifteen years ago, I shot a pilot for VH one.
It was called Last Night and um it was about bachelotte, bachelom bachette parties and the thing that we noticed. We got tons of submissions and we shot a bunch of footage or whatever. The men who attended the bachelor parties wanted to do bad things. The women wanted the bride to do bad things. There was a real like we're gonna fuck her over in some way, or we're gonna make an experience for her. It was a real kind of ye, it's her randomy sort of situation where we're gonna push the other guys
didn't even care if the groom came. They care if he was there. They're like, this is our thing and we're just gonna have fun or whatever. It was a real interesting dynamic on that. But you know, people still go to Vegas for it, Miami's a big spot for it. New York, you know, there's these like let's go shoot guns and go to Wyoming kind of things now, which doesn't seem that fun really. Yeah,
there's a lot going on in the in the world, reik Vik. Iceland was a very big at least when I lived in New York, because it's only three and a half hours to Iceland, and the Icelandic women love American men and they're beautiful. Yes, yes, So there was a lot of that. So we picked six of your stories that we are going to read
comment on them. And so these six, some of them represent a lot of ones were similar to these, but we picked the goales and we're going to comment and perhaps give advice and perhaps see if they dodged a bullet or not. You ready, yes, here we go, all right. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to these because I didn't attend a bachelor party. But it's been a few years it was in Vegas. Yeah, so it's interesting to think that that's not the number one spot anymore. But I was
not expecting that. I really thought that was going to be. Now people go to everybody's like, oh, Vegas is cliche. There's still a lot of people go, so they try and get cute with it, and then bad things happen. Anyway, Well, let's hear this all right. First one, this is from Brooke, and she said a v our Facebook page.
First of all, I am twenty six and have been to about two dozen bachelorette parties in the last eighteen month, washing girls enough, not with the parties, but with all the marriages settled down about settling down anyway. The last one I went to, one of the bride'smaids told the bride that she had had sex with the fiance many times before they started dating, and asked if she still had and asked the bride if he still had issues getting
it up. It was totally meant as a dig towards her. And I'm not sure why it matters what this guy did before they started dating, but it's fun into a whole thing where she got on the phone drunk at three am and started screaming, how many of my friends have you fucked? Over and over? The wedding is still on, but it has been postponed. Maybe we should have bachelorette parties after the ceremonies, more like a celebration than
famous last words. O God, I'm really curious on how this subject even came on I because that's kind of thing I think she thought, like, you know, you should know about me and Doug, Like why bring that up on the part There was an episode of The Sopranos that that happened. Um, the one who Vesuvio is the wife I no one in real life, Catherine R. Ducci whatever her Artie's wife. And she told Carmela, like, you know, me and Tony used to date back in high school
and there was no reason they'd known each other long time. And she was really bothered by it. She's bothered by the information and whatever. So one of the bride'smaids tells the bride, hey, back in the day, I mean your husband, I mean, should that call out? That's not his fault. Why it was a lack of discretion on that one, right, but why does she get mad at the guy? She's probably it was before that it was like he cheated on her. With her, it was like
back in the day, it's one of your friends. I mean, maybe she has so I feel maybe she has some insecurities. I don't care. And the problem is you start visualizing them too together and you can't get that out of your head right, and it's gonna be like you're gonna be at the at the Deists. Yeah. Yeah, I've always been because I'm one of those jackasses. If I go to a wedding and I had dated the bride, I'm one of those people elbowing people. I Yet, I definitely
had that back. I don't like that feeling. I don't. I don't like that. I don't know if he knows like I don't like it. Clearly there's a little bit of like twisted. This is the moment I'm saving this information for. Yeah, she did that on purpose. I would absolutely kick her. Well, the Bachelor, the part about not getting having trouble
getting it up a dig at the guy. Now, she should have said, no, he has does have a problem with me, like they should have fight it unless he does he obviously, unless he still does and that hite a nerve. Oh yeah, I don't know what he did wrong here. I mean, that's he's just like, this is like a drive buy
on him. That's not his fault. Well, you know, I think at the same time, he probably should have disclosed that in the beginning of the relationship that they were, oh you know, I went out with your friend. Yeah, I mean, obviously they're had That is a deal breaker though for a lot of girls, they won't go down that road. And he was probably like, listen, I like you and I that's I don't want to say that. It's not he's not lying to her. He just
didn't volunteer that information, and clearly neither did her friend. Yeah, but then you get up to this point and look at what happened, you know what what I mean. So if a girl that can't accept that, and it's like, okay, well I get it. I mean, should you even really be with that person anyways? Who's not understanding? Don't you want to be with somebody who's not going to judge you and who's gonna think? So now, the thing is, the wedding is still on, but it
is postponed once the kid road probably not I'm not sure that one. I wish them all the best of us. What I would say to her, what I would say to her is I think that you know it was in the past, Like I think your friend definitely was not a very good friend by doing that. I mean she obviously, like you said, what's holding on to that information for the right moment? And so that was it. But I really want enough date on this one. Yeah, I do do.
Yeah, it would probster Brook. She's twenty six and she's been to two dozen bachelorette parties. There's a little bit of competitive marrying at that age. It's really expensive to the to be in a wedding. When you're a girl in your twenties, you have to go to all the ship you gotta you know, and the brides always say you can wear that you shave bridesmaid's gown again, and then have to buy all that. It's a really big
expense for I don't know. Maybe they're saving on a future divorce. I guess that's how I see it. I don't even know if you postponed, how you explain why? Yeah, Oh my gosh, what is that going on? You know? None of this, my friend, none of this is staying out. I'm sorry, honey, that really sucks. But you're not creative Brooks, stay above the frag. Yeah, and it's definitely not his fault. So yeah, it's not his fault. No, it's not. I don't you know. He should he should have came clean in the
very beginning. But that's that should be something that they should come together and talk about and be like, oh, he should have like, oh, yeah I did. I didn't really count it because I couldn't get it up. Then that could be it. That could very well be yeah I count it. Yeah. Yeah. So and does it say in there was it just a one night stand or they actually dated um or they hooked up? What she had sex with her fiance many times before they started dames. Yeah,
so maybe he was using the friend to get to her. Maybe, I know. Yeah, I don't know. I just feel bad for the guy. But part of me is like, you dodged a bullet. You have a really insecure fiance that you proposed to it. I agree. So yeah, all right on to the next This is from Victor in the OC. I went to a bachelor party in like Tahoe, which is a very underrated spot. Golf, casinos, bars, tons of hot girls. It
was my buddy Dave's bachelor party. He had his uncle along mostly to drive and to make sure nothing got out of And anyway, long story short, his uncle, unbeknownst to us, was drinking all night and drove the minivan carrying all eleven of us into Lake Tahoe, like right off the road and into the water. The minivan sunk like a stone. It was absolutely freezing. This was in March. I'm sure there is some symbolism there because for
some reason the wedding got called off and they broke up. They should have gone to Vegas instead. Yea wow, I love that story. That is great. The drunk uncle, and he was the one that was supposed to be the yeah yeah done. I did a bachelor party like that once. It was it was said in Vegas. But the brother of the groom, who was in charge of all the activities, he was very scared of Vegas.
So he planned all of these activities like we're gonna go to Lake Mead and we're gonna go Hoover Damn, and we're gonna go like Vegas is full of nature, and this whole three day weekend or forty weekend like everybody's like, can we get through this bullshit? I tend going strip please, And it was only so long he could he could sort of keep the walls out from us going there, and then the last night like people just went crazy.
Oh wow. Yeah. Yeah. But so the symbolism of if your bachelor party minivan sinks in a frozen like Tahoe, the marriages, that's I don't I don't know if done with it. Yeah that's not good. Yeah, no, I agree with that one. Maybe this last couple of ships take no of this. So that's too called off so far that a lot can go wrong. Yeah, so that you you nodded in a with approval of like Tahoe, Like Tahoe is awesome. It is. Yeah, we went on a guy's golf trip there and it felt like a bachelor party.
The first time you see like Tahoe, you're just like, no, I'm really excited. It's awesome. I want to work there really bad, driving the minivans for the bat All right. Yeah. Have you ever been a bar cart girl? Yes, she has at my country club. Got her the job. That's a good job. I was a Crown Royal girl in Wyoming. I was I've done a lot of different things, but the Barcard girls a good job. You're like a hero. Why did you hate it? Because I don't. I they look at you just like a piece of
meat, and I was much smarter than that. So it was I know, but it was not stimulating sph. That is another thing. A lot of people were in Scottsdale. A lot of people come here not prepared for how dehydrated they're going to get. Absolutely so they continue to drink more, yes, alcohol, which makes it even worse. I know that they start like you see their skin just like flaking off because they're just the iv the Oh my gosh. I know. It's a big business here, all right,
next one, hopefully we can get to an actual wedding here. Um. We were in Austin for my college roommates bachelor party. Every guy in the wedding party except for me, was married, and they acted like they had been in prisoned for years. They couldn't wait to get out and get after it. We ran into a bachelorette party and decided to hang with them because they were super fun and all very cute. But about one am, I see my friend Paul talking to the bride to be really intensely for over
an hour. He looked like he was grilling her uncomfortably. So I went over to see what was up, and he was saying, over and over, just call him now, just do it now. So she calls her fiance and says she just found out that she has more of life to live in that marriage probably isn't for her. She calls the whole thing off right there, five feet away from a mechanical bull, got off the ride, so to speak. I said, Paul, what the fuck did you say
to her? And he said the truth. It does suck anyway. Anyway, I just got an invite to him and his wife's tenth anniversary party. I'm not sure what to make for any of this, so I thought I would share and see what you think. That's from Peter from Chicago. So he talked somebody else out of getting married. He's been married ten years and he's doing a fake celebration. More gosh, yikes, yikes. That's a horrible husband. That's a horrible husband. She let some stranger talk her out
of getting married in a bar at one o'clock in the morning. She probably was already questioning it. It sounds like it sounds like they got into a deep discussion and he saw so many red flags. He's like, what are you doing? Things that her friends might not have told her, because her friends were probably if they saw, they're like, go ahead and marry that. How old were they does it say? It doesn't say how old they were. Okay, I'm gonna marry ten years, so they have to be
in their thirties at least. I know I was talking marriage to somebody. She actually was a sugar baby, but end up turning into a real relationship and we started talking marriage. All my friends are looking at this going, dude, you got to run from this one. She is trouble. But I'm so close to the situation. I was like, oh I'm making excuses. Yeah, oh I had. That happened to a friend of mine once.
He had to have the conversation with one of his good friends. He's like, you cannot marry her, like and he's like, I love her, man, what do you want to exactly right, It's like you're too you're too far into it. And that's the thing. Her friends probably thought it was a bad idea with this guy, and they're like they're like go ahead have it, because they're not totally rooting for there for her happiness until their own happiness has worked out. Women tend to do that, Yes,
very cat. It's like one I know, they're like, you're gonna make an awesome and what are you doing? Yeah, exactly, I want him. Yeah, there's always someone. There's always going on. All Right, I gotta take a quick break. We're at halftime here of the Bachelor and Bachelorette Spectacular and with Marcus and Amy from Secrets of His Sugar Daddy, and we will be back right after this. All right, we are back onward. This is from p K via our Facebook page, PK. I hate
the whole penis straw and stupid matching shirt thing. It's so dumb and rating and I don't know why we do it, but anyway, we did it the weekend before my friend Patty's wedding, which was a huge wedding, had
a really nice venue in DC, like four hundred people. Anyway, ladies, make sure you put a little time between the shenanigans and the festivities, because my friend the bride got so wasted that she not only threw up in my other friend's hair, she fell down getting out of the limo, broke her nose, her wrist and her orbital bone, and no amount of hair
and makeup was going to cover that shit. And her parents made her go through with the ceremony as schedule because they had a lot of money investigated and I think to teach her a lesson. She was still bleeding a little out of one nostril walking down the aisle. This was four months ago, and her space is still a little crooked from it. I haven't seen the wedding picks yet, but no amount of photoshop is going to fix that. Gosh, it's the hangover that happened to my sister, my younger sister, not
at a wedding prom night her senior year. She light got drunk and broke something and she had a good graduation like two days later, and all the pictures were all fucked up. But the parents, I mean, what are you supposed to do, Like, if you have it too close and something, you gotta go through the wedding. You can't. Yeah, I don't person. Wedding is a big deposit, that's huge. Yea, yeah,
I know. W oh man, Yeah, you can't get too you have to be careful, be careful out there, and that was just falling out of the limo. Yeah, she tripped and fell, broke her nose, her wrist in her orbital bone. Lord, she fell on her face. Well, I wonder how big her dress was there? Was it really because she was really hung out, like still drunk or no, this wasn't. She didn't fall at the west at the bachelorette park, so there wasn't enough
room to bounce back from whatever. Like these other ones sounded like they had enough distance to break up and call it off. You're a week out. My cousin Mark, he passed out on the altar during his wedding because he was so hungover and dehydrated from the rehearsal dinner. Wow, they didn't make it very long. They didn't let they That was like a bad omen. It's like pronouncer, we had to stop the whole thing. We're sitting there in the church in New Orleans like waiting for him to feel better, and
he kind of killed the mood for her. I think the more all these stories is if there's a bad omen, listen to it seriously, there really are, Like they all have signs and nobody's listening to it, like that's a big one. I wonder how long. Yeah there, it's going to be a very ugly wedding, is what are ugly? Divorce? Is what that one's going to be? Yeah, yeah, out um. One of my sisters had a had a giant wedding with like million people, cost a
fortune. About a year later, my younger sister had a wedding that was just kind of casual, modest and that was just her choice. People at the wedding who went to both weddings, you could hear them whispering that my dad ran out of money in between. They're like they blew all the money on the first one. It was really just a different person. Well, hopefully you're really caddy and gossipy in the whole time. We're not here to celebrate, we're here, we're here to judge. Well, I used to
be a wedding photographer when I was in my early twenties. To the pictures off and hope he got the shot. But it's exactly rights so stressful. It is very stressful. And so speaking of being stressful, actually did a wedding and it was in a country, little small country town, and he didn't want any part of this, like he was ready to get it done
and get it over with. It was a big wedding. Yeah, so I go down, I take the picture of the of the bride coming down the aisle, already taking it of all the the groomsmen and you know, the bridesmaids. So then I go up to the balcony to get some balcony shots. They're saying I do and walking out. I didn't even have time to go back down, and it was so fat I'm telling you, within five or ten minutes, that wedding was over and they were all laughed about
it because that's exactly what he wanted. He didn't not want. I brought that up there the day that the stress that a photographer to wonder if you got the shot. Yeah, now it's just digital and you click him any picking. Yeah, this was back in the eighties and early nineties, but he didn't have digital photo. Matt Yike makeshift dark room all right. Next one, this is from Richard in Newton, Massachusetts. Two years ago.
My sister got engaged to a guy I had never met before. So he calls me and introduces himself and not only asked me to be in his wedding party. He asked me if I want to come to his bachelor party. He was so polite, so thoughtful, so well mannered, and says it would be a Chipriani in New York, nice restaurant, more like of a big expensive dinner than a Vegas debauchery. I'm based in Boston, so I said sure, and I took the train down. They're about twelve guys there.
It's a little boring, but great food. Anyway, everyone goes around the table to give a toast and a little talk. Long story short, his best man stands up and says, not only is this the best friend he has ever had, but he gives the best blowjob is I thought I was being punked and to each their own, but everybody toasted it and sort
of carried on. I was like, wait what. I asked the guy next to me, who went to college with them and was a fraternity brother, if that was code for something else, and he said, no, that is exactly what it is. That the two guys have been hooking up with each other for years as sort of a goof and a game, but they aren't gay. He was very specific about that last part. Well, I have lots of goofs and games with my friends. But all I could
think of was does my sister now anyway? They had a great wedding and seem happy. I never said anything live and let live. My dad would absolutely die if he knew. But maybe he knows too modern love. Oh my gosh, good brother, because you know they're still hooking up. Maybe everybody Now, I think you always have to assume everybody knows. I don't. I don't know. I don't know, Like, yeah, to each their owne. That took a turn that I wouldn't know. I mean,
that's something you would say in jest. But yeah, no, apparently it's a real dual. Right, Oh my gosh, that's awesome though, I mean, these are good. These are really good. That's a great one. Have you been in a wedding? I was in a my aforementioned sister's weddings. I was asked to be in both of them. I've too, but both are both of them. I was in their weddings. I didn't know the guys at all, and I had to be in the wedding with all these weirdos, right, you know, And my my sister comes to
me and she goes, don't hook up with any of my friends. It's the bride's maid to be embarrassing, and you're that was like a challenge to me. I definitely with one of your friends. But yeah, it was weird being I didn't go the bachelor party because I always think it's weird, Like was my dad there. Yeah, there's always a weird it is thing. And you know some people or you have a group of like these are the college friends, and these are the work friends and these yeah every clickie,
yeah, yeah, you know, it's a strange thing. I don't know my brother's wedding. I don't really want to like talk bad about it because I don't know if they would ever listen to this. But you know, like my sister in law, it was kind of the same thing. It was like we didn't really know her, and then the horror of when they actually were up at the altar, the stories that were told and it
was like, oh my god, I can't believe you're doing this. And I mean her friends, boy, the stories that were told at the bachelor at party, at the wedding, at the wedding, at the wedding or her uncle was giving like was the minister or the preacher that was like, you know, marrying them, and he was talking about how manipulative she was as a child, and I was, and my sister and I like turned and looked at each other and were like, Oh, my fucking god,
what didn't her brother just walking to and and that's all the story. Some uncomfortable vows sometimes or toasts where people aren't the toast most eloquent, or they're nervous, or they just didn't think the repercussions of what they're saying through. You know, Yeah, it was weird, is weird, but that one's really That one's I think that one's pretty cool. I don't know, but two guys like watching two guys get it on. That's kind of one of
my fantasies. Well, you got to listen to our podcast to know the mind of am Yeah, all right, okay, this is another one from our Facebook page from Rachel. Okay. I won't give her name, but I know she listens to this show and she knows who she is because she's the only one I know who has had sex with two random guys during her batchelorunt weekend. Oh. This was in Miami. One guy was actually in the party bus and the second guy was in our hotel. Neither guy was
cute, and she didn't seem that drunk. Three months later, at the wedding reception, she gets on the mic and tells this long story about how she knew her husband was the one. I guess except for these two. The ease with which it all went down, she didn't seem that drunk, made me think there are a whole lot of ones to come anyway, mozeltofa, Yeah, she's one more. There were two more. Yeah, I think the I think is bad. One to two is worse. It could
have been, like you know, she just I don't know. It could have been one of those things where she maybe was like, Hey, I'm going to be having sex with this person for the rest of my life. Yeah, that's why you say. Yes, I guess that I know. But you know, maybe she thought that one of them would be good enough and they would like convince her to not go through with it. Maybe she didn't want to go through with it. I don't know, why would you.
Or maybe the first one on the bus was no good and she really needed one last good could be to send her into the world, or she's an infamedia can that should probably come up in the vows too. Yeah, like I think he needs to know that. Yeah, oh man, he could just really suck in bed. I don't know. Well, then again,
I don't think two randoms is different. Oh but then we get well, this is a conversation for later year, and you do listen to the show apparently, so thank you for listening, and you know who you are. You should write us in and tell us what. Yeah, like having sex with the guy in the party bus, that would be like, oh my god, but then she did it again and bringing a guy to the
hotel like that takes some thought. Yeah, well, I mean this is the final time before she gets married, So would you want to know, like, go have fun, don't tell me what happens. I well, I'm very much an open like you. I really get turned on by that stuff. So as a different mind what you did? Oh absolutely, I love that ship like it really does turn me on like it is it is. In fact, that's why I'm single now. Istis he flat out did not tell me and he didn't mind that he did it. You wanted to
know about it? Yeah, So it's no secrets like that's the rule. Like that seems fair. Yeah, just be honest about it. Yeah, because I've like, i mean, where was my invitation. I'm in an open relationship now and we're kind of very open about other people we see. But if I ask her hand for marriage and we're getting married, yeah, that's different. Yeah, it's that just changes everything. Yeah, it's a thing if you are I think it allows more people to cover. And what
do you need the marriage for. Well, I think, well love. I think you can really feel love for somebody, um, you know, like it would be like a best friend. I guess, Like I don't know, a lot of people think marriage is a huge thing and you need eight people to do the job. You have a lot of different roles and I need this guy's a good dad and I get that, But that's down the road, right. This is like supposed to be the two of you the most romantic time in your life. Yeah. Two guys at the bachelorette
party seems excessive. Yeah, yeah for her, you know, so I don't know. I'm just wondering if that information got to the groom. Yeah, I mean there there are some people. She's got a good group of friends. If they didn't say anything. Yeah, but yeah, I mean I think, yeah, I mean, I guess, just be careful on your bachelor batch. I mean, there's always some instructions. They want to know what they did. There's always a spy, there's always a rat.
But like I said earlier, the married guys who were in the wedding party tend to be way, way worse than the groom to be generally speaking from my experience, Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, I wonder if obviously, I think you should probably set rules before you do the bachelor and bachelotte parties, you know, well, right, I mean, I guess, like the stuff that goes on, it's very cliche, it's very sash. It's the scavenger hunt ship goes down, and I
mean I get people do it. The guys don't really do that. They just try and get wasted. Yeah, you got one, you got a story, got a bachelor's story. Well, the last bachelor party I went to was the whole cliche thing. We were in Vegas and we did a nice dinner. They had a party bus set up to take us to the local strip club. We go in there. How many guys there was probably like ten of us. So we're greeted by two dozen strippers at the door, I mean each of the us, each of the had a couple on
our arms leading us to our quote unquote VIP area. And it was already I think it even charged us already like one hundred and fifty bucks just to get in the door. Nice and they played plenty plenty of attention to us. Of course, has some rush and chicks on all over me. She takes me to the private VIP room, which there was nothing different in that room because it was more expensive. So anyway, I come back. I'm starting to run out of money at this point because it's getting expensive and it's
cute. Latina girl hooked onto me, like can actually no, no, no, so cute. Actually it's a very big club, well runs. It's a good established, not a CD place if they're is such a thing. But it's Latina girl hooked onto me. And I said, well, look I don't want to go into the private room, and she I don't know, you can dance here, And I said, well, I'm almost out of money. Oh well the ATMs are. She leads me over the at of At this time, the liquor is flowing. We're all just completely
wasted. I get the money out. I didn't realize there was a forty dollars surcharge on the atm WOW. Or actually it might have been more than that. I just remember thinking it was huge. Anyway, A few dances later, I've got to get out of the club, like I'm just so done with it, with it all, So I go out. I'm sitting out there on a bench. It's kind of a cool night. I'm just
trying to catch my breath. I don't want anybody around me. I'm done with all these girls hanging on me, believe it or not, because they're just all trying to it's a money grab, yeah I know. So the bachelor comes out, he says, next to you, and we're just kind of talking about we're trying to find other members of the party. They're gone.
So we finally make our way home so we all can bene next morning for breakfast, and we're all laughing about these stories, and some guys like, yeah, she got me for three hundreds, they're guy, yeah she got me for six. I'm like, they got me for four figures. Like I couldn't find any of my money when I got home, it was gone. I think she just took it right out of my pocket. I
meant rolled, but Karma Karla was a good thing. So my buddy and I both played a poker tournament the next day, and I actually sat with a famous baseball player, Oral Hirsheiser, and poker. Yeah. Absolutely, a lot of a lot of athletes played poker. A lot of baseball players. Ye, Jose Canseco. I've played with him in other case. But anyway, I ended up getting fourth place in that tournament and won all that
money back. There's a circle of lives, right because like literally she just took it right out of my pod because I was so drunk, Like all those hundreds that were in my pockets were gone. I mean, Juana on Juana. But one thing I always found odd is at the bachelor parties. The brides, relative, the brother, the father, they're there. Sometimes
you know, I would just feel weird the room. So my story is one time, my late friend Frank, so he's not around to defend himself, but I'll say in his honor, we were at a bachelor party. It was at a club in Westchester County, New York, and there were like a thousand people there because my friend Greg fled the town. Oh my bachelor party, and who wouldn't go to that? It was a bachelor party. All you can drink, all you can eat, like thirty bucks,
so every guy within like twenty miles or like a thousand people there. Frank is up on the stage with this stripper and we're watching him and it's like, oh cool, he's getting a lap dance and it's like oh cool. Wow, she's naked. Oh cool, And then it's like, oh wait
what he's having sex with her on the stage. He's literally a second and we're like, oh shit, because we looked to the right and his bride tobes father and brother and they are like Irish mobsters, out of like state of grace, like they're like a hard they're watching this thing, and we're trying to figure out how to make it go away. He's having We couldn't like it was like it was like to trying to diffuse a bomb. So
we go like, Frank, you gotta stop doing this. We walk on stage and they come over and they go, Frank, we got to talk to you right now, man, and they take him in the back about twenty minutes later he comes out and they're like smoking cigars and I go, Frank, what happened in there? He's like, I had to get him Jets season tickets. Oh there was always a price. They're like, well let it go. Yeah, everybody has a price though. Oh my god, with the party. So that's a great story. Yeah, and you
you got one. No, not like that, nothing crazy like that. I'm from the country. You guys like, where what does that mean? They don't have bachelor and Bachelor. Um, they're definitely not as wild as what you guys have experienced. City folk. Yeah, what are you talking about, you city folk? Yeah, it's from a small Midwestern town. We do little hodown. That's what he was doing. He was doing his little home down. Yeah, all right, Pitch to pitch your podcast tell
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