This is Pod Populi Podcast for the People, the Great Love Debate. It's the Great Love Debate, the Great Love Debate. It's a Great Love Debate. Hi again, Everyone's Brian Howe. Welcome to the Great Love Debate, the world's number one Dating a Relation podcast since two thy fifteen. I am back here in the very fine studios of pod Populi Podcast for the People. I'm at the one in Boca Raton, Florida. It's starting to get steamy here back on the controls after a long hiatus. Fan favorite Arianna, how
are you plug in? Say hi, Arianna, y'all really loud? She missed it? All right, she'll chime in later because we have questions. Um, I'm already something a little bit different today. So I brought in some guests that they're not a little bit different, but they have a certain level of expertise that I felt that I needed. Um, there's a lot of pivotal times in a relationship, or when you're early on a relationship, or when you're married, that you have to decide are we going to live
together? And where are we going to live? And that can bring people together, it could tear them apart, but it certainly leads to a lot of conversations. So I'm not going to bring them in because I want to have a legal discussion on it. I want to sort of get their opinion on a practical discussion in this very fine studio. Populi Podcasts for the people. There are an awful lot of real estate podcasts that get recorded out of
this part. Nobody does a better real estate podcast than these two. Sometimes three. They have a third, She's not here today. They host a show called The Sunnyside where they take a look at a lot of the quirks and trends and interested parties and interesting parties that come along with the South Florida real estate world. So if you have a couple million dollars lying around it's not enough, go get a mortgage and then come back to see them.
Thank you. They are two thirds of the Katilla Baresh Drow Is that right? C the cbgure real Estate Empire, scotch Row and Rochelle Baresh. How are you well? Thank you for the intro. My question to you you felt like you needed advice or you still feel oh? I both. I've you know. There are times when a couple of people have been dating three months and they're like, oh, let's move in together, and that can be done to save money. But there are lease issues, there are credit
issues, there are conversations that need to be had. And then when people come to buy a home, so you guys deal with mostly buyers, correct, do you try and assess the status of the relationship and who's putting up the money and who's on the vaporwork? Like, like you kind of have to be Is it the two if they're not married? If it's because I saw I remember a couple of years ago, like I saw Aaron Rodgers and Danny Ka Patrick bought a couple like estates together there, And I'm like,
is it under like a business trust? Like I didn't think they were going fifty years together. That seems like a level of complication the two very wealthy people wouldn't true read doesn't that sound fun? Yeah, I'm just like, why are they are they sharing investment? Like their relationship I think has to be pretty serious before you starting property together. And I think it's not our
job to vet them. I think if they're walking through the door and they're shopping for real estate, they better have their things lined up before they walk through the door. Yeah, I have enough stuff to deal with then trying to figure out what's going on in front of us. You're not asking who's paying here? Well, well, well we ask, but not ask. I think there's certain ways of figuring out, Like I would say, who's driving that bus? Yeah? Is that what you say? Well, having
this bus? So how do you figure out? No, you don't say anything. It's just in the questions and people who steps money, who makes the decisions, Who makes the decisions? Well, sometimes she makes the decisions and he has the money, or vice versa. You know. Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, we had somebody the other day they said, I love it. I want to buy it right now, but I can't do it. My wife has to come and she needs to check
the box. And then when that happens, we're good to go. Is that frustrating for you to deal with where one seems all in and one is not. It happens out all the time. So I says, you just deal with it. It's part of the business. But I think sometimes the wife will want a single family home, the husband wants a condo, and then suddenly it switches. Oh and then he wants that and they want that.
That happens more than you would ever think. I spent like a couple hours with somebody last week and she's all in, She's loving the condo that we're showing her and everything, and then she says, after lengthy investment of my time, oh, I just have to convince my husband to move now. And I'm like, wait a minute, why are we even down this road. We should have all you should have done your homework behind the scenes and then come to see us. What and you guys deal with some luxury
stuff? Is there a level of prequalification in the state of Florida that in order to even see a house that you have to California is rough? Like California, you can't just like go to house because a lot of guys used to do that to meet hot realtor girls. Yea, and vice versa still
happens. What are the rules in what other what other industries you have to besides like show business where you show your picture and you're on the internet and while I know, standing there next to a Lamborghini, you know they are and that's why you're all on bus bench just billboards. There is I mean half of Orange County real estate agents were actresses who auditioned for me back in the day, and they're like, oh, I can do this, but
a lot of it is being somewhat friendly and charming to wealthy people. Yes, right, And there's a there's a line sometimes that can be misconstrued. When I first gotten the business, you know, you're you're hungry, you want business. You're not doing anything wrong, but sometimes that can be taken a different way. And I had to call the police into the restraining order.
Oh really really, Yeah, it was not a fun situation. So you have to be very cognizant of what you're putting out there for your picture, everything, the way you dress, I mean, depending what kind of business you want. That's not the type of business we want, right, The type of business you want is wealthy, stable, happy. Second home buyers who don't think about it. People are less likely to think about a
second home than a first home. Yeah, it's it's a want, not a need, correct, Right, They've already got a roof over their head, maybe even two, So this is one of a fun things. They're not necessarily asking about school districts, right, Like, hey, wow, bok is awesome. The weather is amazing. Yeah, let's buy something here. Yeah, you know. More so they're asking about walking out my door, what's there? What can I get? Restaurants, bars, shops?
How much questions? Do you have to know your neighborhood environment? You know pretty much everything everything right for schools, Waterway schools isn't really our clientele for the most part. Um. You know, we second second homeowners. They own their primary usually in the Northeast, they come down here, or it's people from the west communities right that. Now they're empty nesters, so they're movie they didn't want to hear about schools. Oh, that's true. They
don't want to It's like a bit of a buzzkill. You don't want to mention that, you know. I was up in a meeting on a Palm Beach island a couple weeks ago, and this guy was complaining that he saw a school bus on the island. Horrified. He's like, once they're school buses, it becomes it's less of a vacation spot. It was really jarring to him. He's like, I came away to get away from that.
Um. So if two people want to buy something together, do you care You're like who because it's more complicated legally, right it is, but we don't deal with illegal aspect. We deal with having them both fall in love with one property and then let their attorney do the rest. Equally, they have to fall in love. Well, someone always wins a little bit more than the other person, but equally they have to love it for the most part. Although I did have a sale once where they were moving from the
northeast. The husband never saw the property right the wife picked it out and he only thought when they closed, wow, well I'd depend the block a couple of times. Did you guys go through that during COVID when it was a lot of like sight unseen. I mean I heard stories about those people were just grabbing stuff. And one head Island who retired in New York and they're like, oh, we just wanted because we were like one of the only states was really open, kind of in full swing, and we had
great weather and you know. But the problem was a lot of people would come they'd just be like, oh, I put a contract on it and hold it. Then they come down here and they'd inspect it, and then they'd have like second thoughts and then cancel the contract. So anytime that was happening. We were kind of hesitant until they were really like on the ground and started with their own eyes, because everybody was just oh, I'll take it, I'll take it. I need to grab it. So that's what
inflated prices too. Um, this is not a place for a starter home South Florida, you know, I mean you've been. I think I think Florida's half the price of California still really maybe even less. Think Well, I said that comment to day because I just came from Arizona. We were I was at the studio Scottsdale, and I think, Uh, Florida's for high end stuff. Florida's half of California, and Scottsdale is half of Florida. So you can get an insane place that is two million in the valley
in Phoenix would be four here, it will be eight in California. Wow, I would think if you think of like when we do our CBG minute, mostly the big sales or California. Yeah, except for pombe Chiland. And that is because it's very limited amount of property and a certain amount of people like you cannot don't even call unless you have away from your maid figure. Yeah twenty right. I mean, but I'm smiling. I'm so proud of you. Look at you. You are like our little real estate.
Well I pay attention because I lived in California for a long long time and you cannot buy any house in Los Angeles County of any kind for undermillion dollars right now. None like an absolute shack under and San Francisco is probably worse, like a shock under the freeway is a million dollars. And I'm like, if you have the million dollars to spend, is it worth it to
live in California in Los Angeles to have that? And you know, people fighting over scraps of property in Santa Monica because the sand lack of schools are better than the rest of Los Angeles, and so young couples, young families, they have to make this decision, like you want to live in a place where you want to live, but I mean, you might better off go into um wherever that town is in Mississippi. On that HGTV shell what if that show called where they don't seem to be running out of houses to
fix that? Yeah, we're the one they just fix the houses in the little town in Mississippi, and I'm like, well, two hundred thousand goes a long way there. Yeah, well that's why we're getting so many people from California. It's a value. Like we say, every week we are in the past would have maybe one or two a year. Fifty percent of our calls are people from California. It's an exodus. It is, it is. And yeah, that goes to show you, you know, if
the pricing is so vastly different, it's a good value here. It's way it is. It is a good value here. It's similar weather, it's fine, but still the level of what a couple million bucks will get you in Florida versus California is insane. But we're also in an area where it's it's there's a lot of geography here, like a lot of little towns on
a little city. So it might not be the price point you can afford in Boca Raton, But then you can go down to Fort Lauderdale, or you can go up to you know wherever else within a let's say fifty miles, you have a lot of options. I know, well, it's an interesting exercise if you go on and I know, all the real estate people are going to tell me not to trust Zillo, but say you want to
do your Zillo porn late at night. But people do. And you go to California and you do anything within say, fifty miles off the coast, and you just put in show me everything under UM seven hundred fifty thousand. Within fifty it's just nothing. It's zero, like nothing comes up refresh. Yeah, it's a zero, like there's nothing of any kind. So a lot of young people when they when they you know, every year we put out our list of the best and worst dating cities and all that kind of
stuff. Los Angeles is never high on the list. But certain people have to look at that, what can I afford? What is the dating pool? Like how much does that turn over? If you're not looking to date actors and actresses? That the pool's churning over in Los Angeles. Not that many people can move there or San Francisco. There's just certain cities and certain markets where you are shut out of if you're twenty six years old and you don't want to have three roommates anymore. Yeah, you know, where are
those people going? They're going to They used to go to Nashville. Interesting and now Nashville's crazy. You know, when I was in my um, when I was Ariana's age in New York City, it was very normal. I didn't because at the time I lived with my girlfriend, which saved money.
People had four people in a one and a half bedroom and they put up some wall and they just had to make it, you know, and you just kind of like, we're gonna go out anyway, and we crashed out to find and people just a lot of young people don't want to do that anymore. A lot of people, young people don't want to take on three roommates. I want my space, I want my quiet, I want whatever. But now people look at where are the affordable places where I can
have fun, date have a nice place. The pool is getting smaller on places like that because although we heard there was this great exodus from all of the cities, the cities have not necessarily gotten cheaper. You know, when everybody bailed out in New York and all the reds plummeted, They're higher now than they ever were. So you can go to certain places like Charlotte that has a little bit of sprawl to it, so there was a little bit
of room. Places like Greenville, South Carolina, Like there's little pockets of young, fun, dynamic that you can probably still buy something and establish roots, because it is really hard to date if you are not committed to a community, if you're like, I'm not sure how long I'm going to be here, which is always a challenge. In New York, a lot of people are like, or Los Angeles, how much longer I'm want to stay here? You're a lot less likely to pursue something that you're going to look
to get out of or you're gonna learn that to do that. You know, Atlanta went through that for a while. Now Atlanta it's pretty good, But if there's a wild people were like in Atlanta on their way to Tampa. You know, they were like in Atlanta for a while. And if you're not committed to your city because either you think you can't afford to marry and grow a family there, then you're looking to date to find somebody who
also willing to leave. That's a that's tough bulls iut to hit. Yeah, Well, what about a city like Miami where I think that when I lived there, I think the average shelf life was four to seven years. So who's committed. Well, Miami, so it's a very different dating scene. Do people date in Miami or they just they go out or they go home. So that's a thing. You're diving into this pool of nightlife confest
seven o'clock in the morning and all. It's just wild. But at some point somebody's going to be like, I just want to go out to dinner, and then that's expensive in Miami even going out when not to age you too much, but you probably went out in the days before in a place like Miami pre bottle service. Oh no, you only went out during bottle service, so you could go out and you would buy drinks and give an
expensive night was a couple hundred bucks. Yeah, sure if you are not all in with six bottles of great Goose and the private thing like you're just shut out. Yeah, there is no you got no game, you have nothing. And certain cities, right, I know, it's so scary, the amount of myself I would we'd always have to bring some less attractive rich guy who's like, your job is to pay and you can come in and we'll have the girls and you could be in our thing and that's sorry,
that's your role. But you can come along with us, or you're smuggling in like you said, you're smuggling planet. Yeah, I mean there was always some much guy to do that. So you're making uh, you know, decisions to go to a certain city that you hear are so so fun.
So like Austin, Texas. I was going to ask you about that's one that is still reasonably affordable, has fun, but it's almost too fun because nobody wants to get off the ride and be in a relationship because it's like, I don't no, I'm going to miss out on all of this, which also makes it a challenge. And then you wake up in your thirty four, which is nothing wrong with thirty four, but you just did ten years of late nights and you're like, oh shit, and I'm still
in Austin. You know. So there's certain places DC has some affordability if you move outside slightly outside of the Beltway, like past like Arlington, maybe like a little bit down. There's some Falls Church, Virginia. There's places that are still affordable at twenty six that if you decide you want to stay in a community, you can probably buy a house. I'm not sure Miami, is that No, definitely not I mean talk about having roommates. I
mean hospitality is one of the biggest industries there. So you have two to three people living in the conduct or a rental. But there's nothing wrong with that, like some of the most fun times of your life when you look back, like I wish people nowadays would put their nose about it because it is fun. You think it was fun? Oh my god, did he bring her home? Go home? Like? There was some there was some element to that that I think people are like, I need my space or
Arianna, are you on the mic yet? Yes? Do people still do that? Do you have roommates and tied ribbon on the door or something if you're with a boy. No, you're just like it's just like a universal code you have to knock before. Oh so polite. Oh that's so polite. Roommate who if he knew I was home with a girl, he would intentionally walk in naked and be like, hey, is there any mustard? He would just walk in like is there any mustard? And he would come
up with some stupid question just to freak her out. That's like it was terrible or whatever. How devoted are you too, Brian? Let's find out right, exactly are you willing to put up with me? And that's why like, oh my god, my twenties. Um, all right, I'm here with Scott Rochelle. We are diving into where you should live and why you should think about things before you either commit to a city or think about moving there. We have to take a quick break so we can pay for
some of these Palm Beach County houses. And we moved back right after this, and we are back. You lived where in your twenties, Not that you're not in your twenties, but I'm going to assume Palm Springs, California really talk about no dating scene? I mean it was very different. It was old and gay very much. I could not get in trouble in the How does a nice girl from Minnesota wherever you're from, end up there?
I was in television, so my job took me there to Palm Springs, to Palm Springs k M I R. I was the producer for late night news there. That cuts into the dating pool to scene too, right. You got to work, yeah, I mean I had to the late night news, so you would have to come in probably one thirty. You do
the I can't remember if it was ten or eleven o'clock news. Now from Palm Springs do you go to because people from LA go to Palm Springs and people from LA go to Vegas. Where do people from Palm Springs go? I went nowhere. I was twenty, I was poor, but Paul Sprains is another place where there was money. So you see even then seasonal, it's seasonal. You see like, I want that. I want to be
a part of this. This looks so fun. There's a lot of society events just like down here, and you want to be invited to them. But that's an outfit, that's a that's shoes, that is that is it's hard. But it was for a girl like from Minnesota like me. You'd go and you'd be at restaurants and you'd see these celebrities. I mean it was such a different lifestyle. Yeah, I mean something that you would never think of when you're growing up in Saint Cloud, Minnesota. So it was
it was fun. Had you been to California as a kid, No, so you just sight unseeing, went to California, I mean sunshine and you saw cactus and cactus. Yeah, like that's amazing. And I remember the news station. We talked about how it can be for months one hundred and twenty degrees, and they would yell at the weather man, don't say it's hot. The tourism board would call, yeah, what is the word? They want? Hello, it's hot season like, so every week we get
a call from them. Please don't say that hot's a negative. And where were you in your swinging twenties New York City? Yeah, yeah, I was opening restaurants. I was running bars. So I mean that is very conducive to dating, it is. But then you know people who go to like NYU, there's no like two dollars beer dive bars in New York City that you can go to like you can in some universities, Like it's hard to you know, it's two keg. Yeah, in New York City.
But you'd still have those, you know, those local bars, the Irish bars, you know, where beers were pretty inexpensive. And it wasn't like, hey, we're shutting this down and turning into a club at nine o'clock, you know, so if you wanted to go to a club, you go to a club at one o'clock. But yeah, every every corner,
every street had its own like sports bar, irish bar or whatever. If you if you're just New York City, and I get why people want to move there from all over the place, especially people who can come from a place like Los Angeles. They they see New York they see the New York City on television and they're like, I want to be a part of that. And when you are in it, it is awesome in your twenties,
Oh yeah, it is awesome. But you do know, if you are ever going to get into relationship, you're gonna you're gonna want to go to Larchmont. You're gonna gonna want to hoist your bay. You're gonna want like very few people like meet in New York City and fifteen years later they're raising their family there. Yeah, and that's a cost because you're not getting a yard. It's very true. You know, the school, it's expensive, you want to go to private school whatever. So you you hope to find
somebody in New York City to leave New York City. Yeah, yeah, like a lot of a lot of financial people, you know, they'd go to the out of borrows, take the train in. You know, have that say, Hey, I grew up in Westchester County, so I mean, I get it. All the dad's got on the trains and they read their newspapers, read the newspaper, and they there's a bar car on the
train and they commute and whoever. But New York City where it was just like the night would go on and you'd be in some dive bar at four o'clock in the morning with some jukebox and whatever, and it was it was the best. It was best. I always made the joke that this is pre uber that your your goal going out in New York City as a guy, at least, was to not hear the words two stops please when you've got in a cab at the end of the day. Because she said two
stops please, that minute was over. So you just try and just be like, give your address, and that was it. I have a good one when you're trying to get a cab and you tell them you got to go to the Queens of Brooklyn in the cab because that's where she lives, and the cab drivers like, no, no, I'm not going there because they can't get a fair back. And then now you're stuck in the corner trying to get a cab to Brooklyn. Again, and that is a thing
like geographically you're only talking maybe three miles away. It might as well have been another another world. That's why the people who live in Jersey the young people living in Jersey City and Hoboken, they have the best of both worlds. They have they it's a little more affordable. They have all the nightlife they want. But if they really want to go into the deep end of the pool and go New York City, you're train ride away and do all that kind of stuff. You know, So at heart, are you in
New York or California? That's a good question. So I I always said, if somebody asked me in Los Angeles and I was in Los Angeles, I don't know, seventeen years something like that, say say where are you from? And I go, I'm from New York by live in La Now. It was just one sentence, I'm from New York by I live in La Now. And then one year, one time, you know, five or six years ago, I was in some store on Melrose and the girl
was like, so where are you from? And I'm like here, I'm from here, and I like it was like a brain thing happened in my head I'm like, am I from here? I'm from Los Angeles. And it was really disturbing to me that I felt like, Okay, I here's my New York card. I'm a three one. Oh I'm not in two one, two nine one seven. Like I gave it up. And I really felt at that point like I never said it out loud. It I always said the same way. But I being back in Florida a lot,
it's like riding a bike. You are back in the New York. There's everybody here is from New York. I now feel like I'm from New York again, especially bocas sometimes like a restaurant on a Saturday night. Yeah. Well, I've been showing properties and somebody's from Long Island and they meet like three people from their neighborhood and none of them know that they're down here. They're kind of like quietly creeping, you know, away from their Long Island
north Shore home. Yeah, we have to be very quiet about like who's here, not mentioning names. I was a in a taxi in um I think I was in Bangkok and the cab driver very broken English, He's like, wait, where are you from? Was that was that bad? Was that racist. Can I do that? That was a real good impression. You're okay, you're talking about the man that you met. Yeah, I know he's he and he's and I go, um, Los Angeles, and he goes, oh, Tom Hanks, and I'm like, yeah, okay,
Tom Hanks, and I go but I'm originally from New York. And he goes, oh, Hillary Clinton, and I go Hillary Clinton as a New York cro I was so offended, like that's that's whose associated with New York, Like Hillary Clinton from New York. And I was like so mad. And then my like new York New York pride um jump back in, um do do people? Again, this is the legal side of it. You probably don't get involved in it. Most wealthy people buy things through a
company or a trust or people are just writing checks. Well, you know, the funny thing is now that the laws have changed for you know, how you have to disclose your funds and how you paid for something. Plus with taxation, a lot of people they're moving here are trying to, like coming from California in New York, trying to avoid those high state costs of taxes, so they have to it has to be in their name here now. So before it could be in Brian Howe LLC. It didn't matter where
the money was coming from. Now, you know, to qualify for those tax savings, you have to say, Brian Howe, is the live one hundred and eighty eight days or whatever it is. And a lot of it is like to death, they really will. That's time with Trump, right, Like Trump stayed here a long enough time that he wanted to be resident. They're like, you can't live at Marilago according to laws of hotel land, right, And they're like, you cannot live here, And he didn't
care. He's just like, I'm here and I don't want to pay the taxes. Yeah, and whatever. M the somebody comes in to you and they want to buy a piece of property, how do you ask the question? Do you say, what's your budget? Is that the word? I mean, it's the word that you would use when you're getting into eight figure properties. Well, you start showing them properties and they'll kind of tell you. I mean, we try not to ask that question. But you have
to know what kind of time you're wasting. And you have to know, like, because the variety here is one and a half million to six yeah, right, how do you narrow that that's a lot different from two hundred to two fifty thousand. This is true, but you can you can like we've had it where you can show someone a four million dollar property. That's great, but that's not my budget. Or where are you comfortable at? That's a good one. Where are you comfortable at? You comfortable? Where
would you like to comfortably land? Where's your comfort zone? Yeah? Or do you try and be like which part of the you assume they know going in? Like what zip code are you interested in? Are you can't assume anything? They don't. People come here and we say people landing, show me everything? How many? How many men are doing that to impress a girl there with? Can you tell that? Does that happen where it's like, let's go look at houses? I just met this girl? But well,
you know, we get different things. There's not so much men trying to impress females. But you get people that for someone that reason, want to pretend like they're buying a house or a property. They'll come up with fake proof of funds, they'll run you all over town. They'll submit offers that aren't real. I mean, that's a real offer, but why would they do that. We don't know, thank you, We don't a million dollar questions that old Glenara Glenn Ross line, like they just like talking to
salesman something. But they it's almost like a lot of work on their end. Yes, it is. It's a huge. It has to some little thing that they really enjoy. Because there's one person that we know of that it's been doing it for years, years and they keep circling. I mean, we won't deal with them anymore. But are they is it manifesting? No, can't just give a pass on that, Like thanks for asking Leather, make it become real, right, Like I just I can see myself
in my dream home. No, No, I mean there's at least four that I know of. You know that he's come around and oh yeah, the money will be there. I'm gonna get the deposit in and you know it just you kind of just shrug your shoulders and go, oh it's you had that one in Miami where the guy tapped up. Yes, I did. One of the first properties I had in Miami that I was listing, and you know it was a woman that you know, we both know and everything, and you know she's showing her client. He's like, oh,
look at the views. It wouldn't this be amazing? You wake up and everything, and they go into the next room and he just grabs a handful of butt and then Lix looks over her shoulder at me like walks in the door like with his hand. And he was much much older than her, and they didn't give me any sign that they were a couple or anything, and he just like looks at me. It's like, yeah, Oh, that's how I'm spending my afternoon. How are you doing your Scott ask for
forgiveness and non permission? Suppose? I guess sometimes people what are not? We are in the love dating relationship business, and sometimes love dating relationships go bad. What are the divorce? California's a common law state? What is Florida? Wouldn't you know? I know you haven't, thankfully, But because that matters in basically what it is a lot of Again, I'm gonna get
in trouble from the women. A lot of women marry a wealthy man who is retired and the amount of money she's entitled to sort of is what he has, anything he gains from the time you married him, and his net worth might go down during the course of your probably so it's not like just like marry a rich guy and you get half, you get half of anything he earns after that. Not all states are like that. So kavitaemptur on
you tuggar daddy chasers. But wait a minute, even with a prenup that states something differently does get you more than I mean, you write a prenup, it is what it is. But if you marry a guy who's got thirty million on the day you met him and he does not earn another time during that time that you were married together, it's what you earned together while you were together. Wow. Yeah, I know. So that's a factor. People are like, oh my god, if she married this guy's rich,
but like if it doesn't go well yeah. And then some states are the other end of the spectrum, um like Texas, like you can you have no rights, like if he or she not to stereotype does just decide you don't get anything, you don't get anything, you know, And so young daters think about that, like people from Texas, So come here right, So you're you're trying to you know, it is it is the second biggest decision I think you ever make in your life is buying a home other
than the person you are going to hopefully live in this home with. I think number one is probably marriage proposal Number two is what you're going to do together. And that can even be earlier relation when you're like, we're going to move in together. Either there's two ways that young people, this is for you ariana move in together. Either moving together to save money or they moving together to push the relationship to a new place. Right, let's see
how this goes. I mean you've heard that with a baby, right, Hey, let's we're gonna have a baby and you know, and that's going to save the relationship. Right, They're like, we're not working at his husband and wife. Let's let's try and try the least first, do the least and see how that goes. Yeah, maybe we'll have a lot of people like, well, let's have a baby and see if it makes it closer together. I'm like, no, then you're had no sleep and stress.
I mean a house, you're tethered to somebody for a little while, you're tethered with him for fifty years. Oh my god. Yeah, people don't think about it think about it that way. That's on an apartment in your twenties and that's a good trial or however you want to do it, do it. But when you're looking to buy something together, you have to look at both. If it works out, yeah, is it an investment for both of you? Is it a place that you're going to plan on
living for twenty years? And what happens if it doesn't work out? And there's a lot of thought to go in that, And it's such a net should be such a happy, positive, dream filled time. It thanks to even go to that place in your mind, like what if it doesn't. But I think people have to think about this stuff rightly. I would say, if you are not married and buying a property, you would want to put it in some type of title that all that work has been done behind
the scenes, because yeah, things go south. I mean, you hear stories of people that have dated for five years, they get married and move in and it's over in a month. Yeah, they didn't know about the sock drawer and they didn't know about stuff like that. But then you see people like I was always fascinated by not even the example I brought up earlier,
like Aaron Rodgers and Danny Kapatrick or whatever. But super wealthy married people Ben Affleck and j Low they are together, they are a couple and they just bought a house. How does that work? You got this one? I got this one? Are they invest do they just have it to invest? Like? How does that? Who gets? Like? How does that conversation go? I would imagine there's like a lot of billable hours for like the attorneys and the academists. At some point, okay, let's get around
dinner. They have to talk about like he's got two hundred million, she's got two hundred million. They want to buy an eight million dollar house in Aspen. It's pocket change to both of them, but it's got to be somebody's pocket. Yeah, yeah, I know. I like that. Though
you get this one, I would get the next. I mean, I wonder what that's like for the dam I wonder if it's just Okay, some lawyers after they sit down there like, go ahead and we'll set up a real estate fund and you guys put it into it equally, you know, Gazelle and Tom Brady. Um. Somebody was like, oh, it's amazing how quickly they got divorced and unraveled or whatever. They probably had teams working
through this reverse engineering. There you have businesses together, I assume properties together, investments together. You know, I don't know a lot of stuff. It's like, you know, when some CEOs go out to lunch, it's like, how's that bill happen? Like what happens when the check comes in? The real estate might be the easiest thing of it, all right, just split it down the middle and sell it, you know, But that's
the thing with real estate. You there's consequences financially, right you you have to you know, obviously there's maybe there's no mortgage, but you got to pay closing costs and commissions and things like that. So you're not just selling it at the same price. If you sell it the same price, you're taking a hit. And what if I don't want to sell it? And what if we do? I know, these are levels of conversation. You
know. Part of me understands why a couple of either successful or famous people get together, because they sort of understand the demands of the job, so to speak. Part of me is like, oh my god, that's two sets of lawyers and two two egos and careers are going at the same place.
You know, I heard Matt Damon on a podcast last week and he lived down the street from from Ben Affleck when he was married to Jennifer Garner, and he's like, you know, there was a certain amount of paparazzi down there then, and you know, we kind of dealt with it and whatever. He's like now he's married to a icon like Jennifer Garner is incredibly famous. The level between her and Jennifer Lopez, Matt Damon had to come and he goes. It is a different thing for even Ben Affleck to have
to deal with. You know, poor Ben, every poor man, every move everything. And I'm just like, I'm sure he loves her and it's a sweet story. They came back together and blah blah blah. Yeah, there's a lot of headache involved in that. Say, isn't do we really want to do list again? Do we really want to buy real estate together? And it's like, I mean, so what did they do they buy anything last time? And it's like, Okay, we're gonna get back together.
No more condos and on the sunset strap buy, you know, and he could just probably have oh that's my whole batchup. Padd a lot of guys hang onto their first house. At that level, they're like, the sentimental values makes right, right, favorite your favorite dress, and so it's right. It's like, where do you go from that? I don't know. There's a lot of um, there's a lot of fun to it,
there's some nuance to it. But these are conversations that couples need to have beyond and what colors should we paint this wall when our kids look good? I mean, you really have to talk about it. And the time to sort of learn and take chances and try things out is in your twenties, live with some people, sign a couple of leases, see how it works out. Before you're just like, oh my god, we had such a good time at that sushi place. Let's go buy a house to guy put
the red string on the door. With the red string on the door, Harry, honest, like, just knock people I don't know, all right, tell them you're gonna I'm gonna let you tell about your podcast. And then this is your first time on this podcast. We play something called worst date or first date, So you have to think back to your swinging single days and you have to either give us the worst date you ever had, or the best date you've ever had, and that can be with your spouse.
I don't care your choice, but first of all, tell them about the podcast. So we have an incredible podcast. We I mean we just recorded episode eighty. I mean, can you imagine we even got there though? For first ten we listen to the first one today and we got our first one. I'm up to four six or something of this, my first like thirty or like buried. I don't even where they are gone. They're
not on the interwebs. And it's like you had mentioned earlier, it's called the Sunny side the sunny and not so sunny sides of real estate here in Florida. So we talk about, you know, market trends and have some fun and have guests on. And it's been it's been great. We really really enjoy it. A lot of fun. Is that a good summary? That is a good summer? It's a good summary, right, your first Rachelle worst date or first date? Goodness? Um, worst date or first
date? We'll talk about a one and done. Yeah, So South Beach Food and Wine Festival. Have you either of you been? No? It sounds fun. I feel like I feel like you know where this is going. So it is a great event. That's in South Beach. There are events all over. The very first two days, there's one event on the beach on the sand tents, some of the best foods, wines, music, phenomenal. The person I went with had one too many, started throwing
up all over the sand, had to be carried out. That was definitely a one and done. Oh no, wow, that's not good. No, but I had great wine. Yeah you got yeah, and you'd probably had some good food and could kick the sand, kick, cover it up in the sand. It keep going golden tan that day. Oh who who hasn't vomited on like golden sands of South Beach at some point. True, that's Miami, folks. That there's your Miami Chamber of Commerce. Oh my
god, all right, Scott, you're up. Worst date was I dated this girl who was Brazilian uh in New York City, and she I think she was continuously on cocaine. She was just so hyped up all the time,
and it was just you couldn't just sit and have a meal. It was like, let's go and like and I couldn't understand a word she was saying half the time, And I was like responding the wrong way and she didn't like that, and she would get angry at me and she'd yell at me in Portuguese and everything, and it was just like it was just way too much. Couldn't couldn't do. But I dated her for a while.
I think, here you go. Some men would pay to door to be yelled at by a good hot Brazilian and Portuguese, so you never know. So yeah, different, well cultural experience for you. This was fun, you guys, um as far as us like, share, follow, Please review not only this podcast but the Sunnyside. Your reviews mean a lot in the podcasting ecosystem. Shoot us an email Great Love Debate at gmail dot com if you have real estate questions, moving in questions, or horror stories.
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