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Episodes

Shep Melnick – The Crucible of Desegregation

0:00 Biden’s new DEI initiatives 7:59 The disparate uses of disparate impact 13:59 Shep’s new book, The Crucible of Desegregation: The Uncertain Search for Educational Equality 23:15 The problem with claims that education is resegregating 29:56 Are we heading back to the bussing debates of the 1970s? 35:52 Shep’s book, The Transformation of Title IX: Regulating Gender Equality in Education 44:20 Glenn’s “uncle” objects to analogies between trans people and African Americans 47:58 Shep: Banning C...

Sep 15, 20231 hr 2 min

John McWhorter – Whose Election Narrative?

0:00 Can a white man tell Harriet Tubman’s story? 9:59 What the fall semester has in store for Glenn and John 17:25 How John makes the sausage at the New York Times 22:55 John: We now memorize rap lyrics instead of poetry 36:18 Is wokeness on the wane? 42:12 What John just doesn’t get about Carol Swain 51:46 A Democrat by any other name 56:50 John makes a wild prediction about Trump Recorded August 31, 2023 Links and Readings The Philadelphia Harriet Tubman statue John’s NYT piece, “Two Language...

Sep 08, 20231 hr 1 min

August 2023 Q&A

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Sep 06, 20239 min

Carol Swain – The Adversity of Diversity

0:00 Why Carol joined Black Voices for Trump 9:59 Why should black people support Trump? 16:31 Carol: Democrats stole the 2020 election 26:07 Does Trump face a credible assassination threat? 30:35 The redefinition of white supremacy 35:51 Deracializing the crime debate 39:58 Carol’s new book, The Adversity of Diversity: How Real Training Can Promote Healing in a Post-Affirmative Action World 50:55 Glenn: Affirmative action is one thing, DEI is another 1:04:54 Clarence Thomas v. Ketanji Brown Jac...

Sep 01, 20231 hr 18 min

John McWhorter – Sixteen Years of "The Black Guys"

0:00 A sixteen-year-long conversation 5:45 Race and socioeconomics on the cusp of the Obama Era 21:19 The myth of black poverty and deindustrialization 32:56 Glenn pulls rank 37:59 Why Glenn changed his mind about the Manhattan Institute 50:15 Is the think tank world any more “objective” than academia? Recorded August 19, 2023 Links and Readings Glenn and John’s first conversation from November 7, 2007 John’s book, Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black America John’s book, Winning the Race: Be...

Aug 25, 202354 min

Haim Shweky – An American-Israeli at the Ukrainian Front

0:00 Haim’s history with The Glenn Show 7:54 How Haim ended up fighting in Ukraine 17:42 The legionnaire’s lingua franca 27:55 Haim’s riposte to Cornel West on Ukraine 42:27 A pen in one hand and a gun in the other 47:56 Haim: Ukraine’s sovereignty and national identity must be respected 53:34 Is the two-state solution dead? Recorded July 23, 2023 Links and Readings Haim’s writing for this newsletter Haim’s Substack, The Garland Glenn’s recent conversation with Cornel West Haim and Nikita Petrov...

Aug 18, 20231 hr 4 min

John McWhorter & Ian Buruma – The Spirit of Wokeness

0:00 The protestant ethic and the spirit of wokeness 10:47 Is comparing wokeness to religion a slander on religion? 21:08 Ian: Wokeness is a distraction from real political problems 28:02 How Ian experienced his own cancelation 41:31 America’s exportation of wokeness 45:45 Has wokeness aided and abetted Trump and Brexit? 52:54 John: Enslaved people did find ways to improve their own lives Recorded August 7, 2023 Links and Readings Ian’s Harper’s piece, “Doing the Work” John’s book, Woke Racism: ...

Aug 11, 20231 hr 8 min

July 2023 Q&A

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Aug 09, 202310 min

Jay Caspian Kang – Affirmative Elitism

0:00 How Jay’s position on affirmative action changed 12:15 Jay: I can’t see the virtue in affirmative action as it’s practiced 20:07 Why did so many Asian students defend policies that discriminated against Asians? 25:35 The hidden cultural argument in the California Mathematics Framework 32:01 Is the “people of color coalition” coming apart? 34:55 Why so little outrage over the SCOTUS affirmative action decision? 42:26 When students internalize artificial trauma narratives 49:06 America can’t ...

Aug 04, 20231 hr 15 min

John McWhorter and Peter Arcidiacono – The Economics of SFFA v. Harvard

0:00 Peter’s role in the Supreme Court affirmative action case 8:57 Are legacy admissions affirmative action by another name? 19:17 Why Peter got interested in affirmative action 24:20 Glenn was for affirmative action before he was against it 30:33 Peter: Universities are not honest about admissions 34:20 The brilliance of Roland Fryer 51:17 Campus diversity after affirmative action Recorded July 22, 2023 Links and Readings Glenn’s 2020 conversation with Peter Peter’s paper, “What happens after ...

Jul 28, 20231 hr 1 min

Matt Johnson – The Lessons of Christopher Hitchens

0:00 How Matt first encountered Christopher Hitchens 6:07 Matt’s new book, How Hitchens Can Save the Left: Rediscovering Fearless Liberalism in an Age of Counter-Enlightenment 8:00 Why Matt thinks Cornel West’s Vietnam-Afghanistan analogy is flawed 14:21 What’s worth preserving in the left-liberal tradition? 21:38 Matt: Identity politics is a “toxin” 27:20 Was affirmative action ever necessary? 35:29 Matt: I wish the left would rediscover Hitchens’s universalism 45:04 Hitchens’s “fearless libera...

Jul 21, 202354 min

John McWhorter – The End of Race-Based Affirmative Action

0:00 John: Let’s be honest about what “taking race into account” means in affirmative action 10:09 Glenn: How can anyone argue that race-based affirmative action doesn’t violate the 14th Amendment? 19:29 Why are we so focused on elite institutions? 24:32 John: The University of California works just fine without “racial preferences” 30:28 “You’re pulling the ladder up behind you” is an invalid critique 35:00 John: The fact that racism exists does not justify changing standards 44:04 Why Roland F...

Jul 14, 20231 hr 4 min

June 2023 Q&A

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Jul 12, 20237 min

Jay Bhattacharya – Rewriting the COVID Narrative

0:00 The problem with scientific consensus 6:36 Why Jay and his colleagues were branded “fringe epidemiologists” 15:52 Jay: We need to engage with everyone—even those with mistaken beliefs 25:55 Persuading science skeptics 36:04 How do we stop COVID overreach from happening again? 46:38 Jay: Gain-of-function research is impossible to do safely 55:03 Are some ideas too dangerous to test? 59:30 Jay: Fauci’s blunder was so catastrophic that only history can judge him Recorded June 23, 2023 Links an...

Jul 07, 20231 hr 6 min

Cornel West – The Presidential Aspirations of Cornel West

0:00 Why Cornel is running for president 10:45 How Cornel links American militarism abroad and inequality at home 15:15 Cornel’s pitch to skeptical right-of-center voters 20:30 Is there tension between Cornel’s commitment to stopping climate change and his commitment to helping the working class? 33:50 The moral potential and pitfalls of capitalism 37:34 Might Cornel inadvertently hand the election to the Republicans? 41:44 Cornel: Tim Scott and Clarence Thomas are wrong, but they’re sincere 46:...

Jun 30, 20231 hr 5 min

Sally Satel – The Ethics of Selling a Kidney (Bonus Episode)

The following bonus episode was previously available only to paying Substack subscribers. We’re now releasing it to the public. 0:00 Identitarianism in the medical profession 5:13 The (exaggerated) psychiatric toll of Covid 7:31 Why were psychiatrists publicly diagnosing Trump? 12:29 Sally’s quest for a kidney donor 23:30 How the kidney donation system works and why it doesn’t 29:30 The ethics of selling a kidney 34:42 Can we put a price on the human body? 43:44 Would paying donors exploit the p...

Jun 25, 202359 min

John McWhorter & Jonathan Rieder – Canceling "Culture in America"

0:00 Why Jonathan’s course “Culture in America” got canceled 9:07 The fragility of liberal arts education 17:24 Managing “CRT zealots” in the classroom 27:44 Is there a future for free inquiry? 35:03 John: Black middle-class students don’t need affirmative action 44:57 Is diversity the problem, or is it elitism? 52:35 The virtues (and virtue signaling) of Randall Kennedy Recorded June 17, 2023 Links and Readings Alex Morey and Nadine Strossen’s FIRE article about Jonathan, “Who’s Allowed to Teac...

Jun 23, 20231 hr 3 min

Robert Cherry – The State of the Black Family

0:00 Bob’s new book, The State of the Black Family: Sixty Years of Tragedies and Failures—and New Initiatives Offering Hope 7:02 Bob: “Liberals have given up” on changing black family dynamics 15:02 Two-parent families are preferable, but single-parent families need help 22:01 Do children help women organize their lives more effectively than men? 29:14 Is community college helping or hurting young black men? 38:38 How Bob thinks police and communities should deter violence 45:42 Work requirement...

Jun 16, 20231 hr 5 min

John McWhorter – How Should We Memorialize the Past?

0:00 Inside the mind of a crack columnist 4:19 The blowback from Norman Finkelstein’s TGS appearance 15:27 Is it enough to be a “happy warrior” for your cause? 28:45 How did MLK become MLK? 37:37 What’s in a name when that name is “Woodrow Wilson”? 49:10 Glenn: “Clarence Thomas’s name should be on public school buildings” Recorded May 30, 2023 Links and Readings John’s NYT archive Norman Finkelstein on TGS Norman Finkelstein’s book, I’ll Burn That Bridge When I Come to It: Heretical Thoughts on ...

Jun 09, 20231 hr 9 min

Charles Love & Donique Rolle – Teaching Black History without CRT

0:00 Charles’s argument for emphasizing education over systemic racism 5:21 Donique: Teaching African American history doesn’t require critical race theory 15:36 Charles: We are the 97%! 18:48 How Donique balances oppression and triumph in black history 24:02 What does Florida’s Stop WOKE Act actually say? 33:30 What’s wrong with integrating LGBT history and black history? 44:19 Sexuality’s ever-shifting Overton window 49:40 Why Donique, a public school teacher, advocates for homeschooling 54:30...

Jun 02, 202359 min

May 2023 Q&A

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Jun 01, 202311 min

John McWhorter – Race, Reparations, and Jordan Neely

0:00 John: “I love linguistics, but it no longer loves me” 9:44 How Glenn and John are getting written out of their fields 19:27 Jordan Neely didn’t deserve to die … 27:28 … but the New York subway is getting scary 37:45 Glenn: Reparations would be “impractical, unfair, and divisive in the extreme” 50:50 A possible left-wing objection to reparations 57:22 Glenn goes ham on reparations Recorded May 18, 2023 Links and Readings Steven Pinker’s book, The Language Instinct: How the Mind Creates Langu...

May 26, 20231 hr 2 min

Nikita Petrov – How Substack Can Solve Online Censorship (Bonus Episode)

0:00 Why YouTube censored a TGS episode 6:25 How can YouTube justify censoring matters of opinion? 15:15 Why there’s no such thing as free speech 26:00 Nikita’s notes on Substack Notes 39:53 Democratizing content moderation 46:11 Creating better, community-centered comments sections Recorded May 4, 2023 Links and Readings Nikita’s Substack, Psychopolitica The censored TGS episode, “I Feel, Therefore I Am” Glenn’s paper, “Self-Censorship in Public Discourse: A Theory of ‘Political Correctness’ an...

May 21, 20231 hr 4 min

Norman Finkelstein – The "Triple Scam" of Wokeness

0:00 Has Norman been shut out of mainstream political debates? 7:54 Norman’s conflict with Alan Dershowitz 16:50 Is Israel an apartheid state? 19:25 Identifying with Paul Robeson 33:08 Norman’s new book, I’ll Burn That Bridge When I Get to It! 44:42 Norman: Wokeness is a “triple scam” 53:28 What’s become of Angela Davis? 1:00:05 Cornel West's chosen path 1:09:01 Obama’s self-proclaimed “neat trick” 1:24:38 The political intelligence of Carter, Clinton, and Obama 1:38:10 South Carolina 2020: a ca...

May 19, 20231 hr 59 min

John McWhorter – What Made Omar?

In this week’s episode, John and I return to a familiar character: Omar. For those of you unfamiliar with “Omar,” he’s our invented surrogate for the kind of young black man whose behavior is wreaking havoc on Chicago and St. Louis. Omar is economically disadvantaged. He was more than likely raised by a single mother. He underperforms academically, and he may have dropped out of high school. He’s involved in illegal activity of one sort or another. If there is some kind of large-scale disorderly...

May 08, 20231 hr 1 min

Heather Mac Donald – When Race Trumps Merit

0:00 Heather’s new book, When Race Trumps Merit: How the Pursuit of Equity Sacrifices Excellence, Destroys Beauty, and Threatens Lives 8:20 Are racial disparities in medical school the result of racism or skills gaps? 20:03 Do we really know what causes racial disparities? 32:23 Closing racial achievement gaps begins at home 40:39 Will black doctors necessarily provide better care to black patients? 50:26 Canceling Western art 1:00:37 Heather: Colonialism cannot explain the development of art 1:...

May 05, 20231 hr 43 min

April Q&A

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit glennloury.substack.com Glenn and John answer questions from the Substack community.

May 04, 20237 min

John McWhorter and Mark Goldblatt – I Feel, Therefore I Am

0:00 Mark Goldblatt’s recent book, I Feel, Therefore I Am: The Triumph of Woke Subjectivism 10:55 Wokeism’s roots in postmodern thought 15:05 The “mysticism” of woke thinking 17:44 Learning from Christine Blasey Ford’s accusations 26:29 John breaks his silence on transgender issues 35:13 The political consequences of subjectivism 41:46 Why Mark thinks transgender people are mentally disordered 50:07 What does the T have to do with the LGB? 58:09 Mark: Transgender people deserve respect 1:02:39 D...

Apr 28, 20231 hr 10 min

Daniel Bessner – The End of the American Century

0:00 The gigification of academia 8:26 Is education just another commodity? 18:14 What do historians do? 26:22 Daniel: The university system is an unregulated cartel 35:08 The liberalism (not the leftism) of the university 38:22 Using (and getting used by) new technology 43:19 An alternate history of global economic development 47:29 The end of the American century 54:27 Daniel’s critique of US support for Ukraine Recorded February 7, 2023 Links and Readings Daniel’s NYT op-ed, “The Dangerous De...

Apr 21, 20231 hr 1 min

John McWhorter and Ian Rowe – Who Speaks for Black America?

0:00 Al Sharpton’s National Action Network still exists, apparently 5:00 MLK’s understanding of America’s contributions to democracy 12:58 Are the “people with three names” grifters or merely limited in their racial vision? 21:07 How do you change the minds of black voters? 30:13 The national black leadership vacuum 36:30 The under-recognized success of the black middle class 41:30 Ian’s got a four-point plan … 47:38 … but what’s the best way to disseminate it? (It’s podcasts.) 51:37 The paradox...

Apr 14, 20231 hr 7 min
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