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The Glenn Show

Race, inequality, and economics in the US and throughout the world from Glenn Loury, Professor of Economics at Brown University and Paulson Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute

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Episodes

Jonathan Haidt – After Babel

For this week’s episode, I’m joined by NYU psychologist Jonathan Haidt , author of several books, including (with Greg Lukianoff) The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure and The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion . Jonathan is also the co-founder of Heterodox Academy , where I serve on the advisory council. Despite that connection, this is our first extended public conversation. This is not, ho...

Jun 17, 2022

John McWhorter – Race and Inequality across the Atlantic

John McWhorter is back once more for an episode of The Glenn Show, so let’s get into it. I begin by reporting on my current “European Tour.” Last week I spoke at the London School of Economics, and I’m currently headed from Toulouse, France to Marseille to deliver the keynote address at the International Conference on Public Economic Theory. It’s been quite an enlightening experience so far, as I’ve gotten a look at how young black European economists are thinking about inequities within and wit...

Jun 10, 20221 hr 6 min

Robert Woodson & Sylvia Bennett-Stone – Voices of Black Mothers United + Glenn's Bradley Prize Acceptance Speech

Earlier this year, I announced that I would be donating 10% of the net income from this newsletter to the Woodson Center to support the vital work that they do. I also want to use the newsletter and TGS as a platform to promote the work of Woodson Center-affiliated organizations that are making change on the ground in communities around the country. My first guest in what I hope will be a long ongoing series is Sylvia Bennett-Stone, Director of Voices of Black Mothers United, who is joined by Ro...

Jun 03, 202252 min

John McWhorter – The Immigration Debate after Buffalo

This week, I’m back with my friend John McWhorter. A lot has happened since we last spoke, so let’s get to it. We begin by discussing the horrific, racially motivated mass shooting in Buffalo, New York . John states that, among other things, the event makes him wish we had a word besides “racism” to help us distinguish between truly racist acts like that shooting and situations where there may be racial disparities but no actual racism present. One of the shooter’s motivations was so-called “gre...

May 27, 20221 hr 7 min

Daniel Kaufman – What Is Social Science?

This week’s episode is a throwback to 2015, when Daniel Kaufman, professor of philosophy at Missouri State University, editor of the online magazine the Electric Agora , and (at that time) a mainstay on bloggingheads.tv and meaningoflife.tv , invited me onto his show Sophia. I stumbled across this video again last month, and I think it remains an illuminating discussion that addresses some fundamental questions about economics and the social sciences. We begin by discussing the “science” part of...

May 20, 20221 hr 15 min

John McWhorter & Edmund Santurri – Cancellation at St. Olaf College

This week’s plan for the show was to have Edmund Santurri, professor of philosophy and religion at St. Olaf College, join John McWhorter and I to talk about his soon-to-be terminated appointment as the director of the college’s Institute for Freedom & Community . Ed’s situation is the latest instance of a college’s administration folding to pressure from left-wing activists (more on that below). Unfortunately, Ed was only able to join us for the very beginning of this episode before tech gli...

May 13, 20221 hr 7 min

Briahna Joy Gray – Debating Progressive Policy

This week, I welcome Briahna Joy Gray to TGS. I’ve appeared on her podcast, Bad Faith , and now she’s here to return the favor. Briahna and I have some pretty pronounced political differences—she’s the former National Press Secretary for Bernie Sanders’s presidential campaign, after all. But we get along anyway, because we both believe in the importance of free speech and open debate. And make no mistake, there is a lot of debate in this episode. [Note: We recorded this conversation at Brown’s W...

May 06, 20221 hr 3 min

Greg Thomas – A Future for Black Tradition

Normally I would post one of my bi-weekly conversations with John McWhorter today, but John and I had too many scheduling conflicts to find time to talk this week (he’ll return in two weeks). So in his stead, I’m talking with Greg Thomas , co-founder of the Jazz Leadership Project and senior fellow at the Institute for Cultural Evolution. We begin by discussing Greg’s work with the Jazz Leadership Project , which uses the principles of jazz to train leaders within businesses and organizations. H...

Apr 25, 202254 min

Stephanie Lepp – The Responsibilities of the Public Intellectual

On this week’s episode of The Glenn Show, I welcome my old friend Stephanie Lepp, the Executive Producer at the Center for Humane Technology. I first met Stephanie through her husband, Nathaniel, who was a student of mine at Brown. Stephanie produced a podcast called Reckonings, which told the stories of how people transform their worldviews. I went on the show in 2015 and told the story of the evolution of my own political worldview (links below). Since then, we've been wanting to do another ro...

Apr 18, 20221 hr 13 min

John McWhorter – Trayvon Martin, 10 Years Later

This week, John and I are talking about the ten-year anniversary of the Trayvon Martin shooting , one of the most politically consequential events of the 2010s. A decade later, are we in a better place than where we started? John and I begin by discussing the New York Times’s recent package commemorating the event , which features a written piece by Charles Blow and video interviews with Barack Obama, Henry Louis Gates, and Al Sharpton. All of them reinforce the mainstream narrative about Martin...

Apr 15, 202254 min

TGS Live at the Comedy Cellar

Over the last couple years, I’ve been in communication with Noam Dworman, the owner of the Comedy Cellar in New York, which is one of the most influential comedy clubs in the country. He suggested that we collaborate and put together a show that would explore the relationship between truth, free speech, and comedy . After a lot of back and forth, we came up with the idea of putting non-comedian intellectuals into conversation with professional stand-up comics. We weren’t quite sure what would ha...

Apr 04, 20221 hr 29 min

Sam Harris – Matters of Race, Matters of Mind

This week I welcome Sam Harris to TGS. Sam is a neuroscientist and philosopher, the host of the podcast Making Sense , and the proprietor of the meditation app Waking Up . He’s a searching, truly open-minded thinker who follows the evidence where it leads, even if that means admitting that he was wrong about a previously held position. We begin by discussing Sam’s uncertainty about how to navigate some aspects of the discourse on race . He wants a world in which race simply doesn’t matter all th...

Mar 28, 20221 hr 3 min

Matt Taibbi and John McWhorter – What Is Putin Thinking?

This week on The Glenn Show, John McWhorter and I are joined by the journalist Matt Taibbi. Many of you are likely familiar with Matt from his many books , his political journalism for Rolling Stone (among other outlets), his Useful Idiots podcast, and now his outstanding Substack newsletter, TK News . Matt lived and worked in Russia and the former USSR for several years, so I thought he’d be an excellent source for some insight into the war in Ukraine. We begin by discussing Matt’s brief career...

Mar 21, 202259 min

Daniel Bessner – Ukraine and American Decline

With the war in Ukraine escalating, I thought it would be a good idea to bring on a guest with some expertise in international relations. So I called on Daniel Bessner, an intellectual historian, associate professor at University of Washington’s Henry M. Jackson School of International Studies, and a co-host of the American Prestige podcast. Daniel is a man of the left, so we spend a lot of time here arguing, and we have a great time doing it. Note: We recorded on February 22, 2022. Between then...

Mar 15, 20221 hr 4 min

John McWhorter – Capital Offenses

It’s John McWhorter time once again here at The Glenn Show. Let’s get into it. John and I are both busy guys, but people might not realize how much juggling it takes to manage life as both an academic and a public intellectual . I talk about why I may soon wind down my role at Brown University and devote myself more fully to public endeavors. We then move on to discuss psychiatrist Jeffrey Lieberman , who has been fired or suspended from several academic and medical appointments after referring ...

Mar 07, 20221 hr

Matt Rosenberg – What Next, Chicago?

This week, I welcome Matt Rosenberg to TGS. Matt is a journalist who grew up in Chicago’s Hyde Park neighborhood and the author of the recently published book What Next, Chicago?: Notes of a Pissed-Off Native Son . The book delves into the causes and effects of the city’s recent, alarming rise in crime and also chronicles those who are trying to address the problem. As a native of Chicago’s South Side, I share Matt’s concerns, and I highly, highly recommend that everyone read his book. We begin ...

Feb 28, 20221 hr 25 min

John McWhorter – The Problem with Racial Preferences

John McWhorter is back, just like you knew he would be. This week we’re talking about the future of affirmative action. We begin by discussing Steven Spielberg and Tony Kushner’s new film adaptation of the classic musical West Side Story . John argues that people who dismiss the musical as just “something some old white people wrote” are far too simplistic and limited in their view . I haven’t yet gotten a chance to see the new adaptation, but I’m a fan of the music and lyrics, so I’m inclined t...

Feb 21, 20221 hr 3 min

Remembrance of Glenns Past

As many of you know, I’m in the midst of writing a memoir. I’m now calling it The Enemy Within, but its earlier title was Changing My Mind , an allusion both to my intellectual development and to my shifting political orientations. In the course of thinking through my past, I’ve wondered how much the new, more conservative Glenn would have to say to the more liberal Glenn of the ‘90s and ‘00s. So I decided to stage a little “debate” between us. Mark Sussman, my editor here at the newsletter, wen...

Feb 16, 202254 min

Steven Rhoads - The Economist's View of the World

On this week’s show, I’m talking to the political scientist Steven Rhoads, author of the influential book The Economist’s View of the World , which was recently reissued in a substantially updated edition. Steven thinks the fundamental principles of economics can help even non-economists see the world in a more rational and solution-oriented way, and I have to say, I agree! I begin by asking Steven how a political scientist came to write a book extolling the virtues of economics —why not write o...

Feb 14, 20221 hr 5 min

John McWhorter – Race, Representation, and the Supreme Court

I’m back with my friend John McWhorter for one of our regular conversations. A lot has happened on the race and politics front over the last two weeks, so we’ve got a full docket of topics to discuss. And speaking of dockets, after overcoming some technical difficulties, we spend a good chunk of time on matters relating to the Supreme Court. Ilya Shapiro , the incoming director of Georgetown University’s Center for the Constitution, was put on leave by the school after tweeting criticism of Joe ...

Feb 08, 20221 hr 9 min

Laurence Kotlikoff – Money Magic

Here at The Glenn Show, I’m taking a little break from politics and culture to talk dollars and cents. My good friend and former Boston University colleague Larry Kotlikoff is here to discuss his new book, Money Magic: An Economist’s Secrets to More Money, Less Risk, and a Better Life . In it, Larry brings his knowledge and expertise as an economist to bear on the everyday problems of spending, saving, and investing. In this episode, he shares some of that advice with TGS viewers. But, wait a mi...

Jan 31, 202257 min

John McWhorter – The Burdens of Black Freedom

John McWhorter and I often find ourselves aligned on the issues we discuss on The Glenn Show. We’ve even received criticism for how much we agree with each other! This episode should please those critics, as John and I actually find ourselves in stark (though productive and friendly) disagreement on a few matters. Let’s get into it. We begin by talking about Joe Biden’s recent press conference . Personally, I think he performed pretty badly, as the White House subsequently had to walk back sever...

Jan 24, 20221 hr 4 min

Heather Mac Donald – Which Black Lives Matter?

This week we’ve got Heather Mac Donald on The Glenn Show . Heather is a fellow of the Manhattan Institute, a contributing editor to City Journal , and author of several books, including The Diversity Delusion , The War on Cops , and The Burden of Bad Ideas . Heather’s writing combines meticulous research and sharp, uncompromising prose. Her positions on crime and policing have led some on the left to regard her as a bit of a boogeyman. But while she is a fierce critic of failing progressive poli...

Jan 18, 20221 hr 19 min

John McWhorter – Are There More Capitol Riots to Come?

John McWhorter is back for our first conversation of 2022. Let’s get into it! We begin by discussing the death of the groundbreaking black actor Sidney Poitier . Portier was best known for his roles in films like The Defiant Ones , Lilies of the Field, In the Heat of the Night , and Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner . John puts forward the fascinating theory that Poitier’s Caribbean origins and mannerisms made him acceptable to white American audiences who were unaccustomed to seeing black men in dra...

Jan 11, 20221 hr 4 min

Robert Woodson – How to Restore Impoverished Communities

This week I’m honored to have the distinguished Robert Woodson on the show. Since joining the civil rights movement as an activist and organizer in the ‘60s, Bob has dedicated himself to finding solutions to the problems of poverty and dysfunction in America. Through the Woodson Center, Bob helps fund and advise programs that are on the ground and working to solve some of the toughest problems in American communities. He’s got more awards and achievements than I can possibly list here, and there...

Jan 04, 20221 hr 9 min

John McWhorter – The Best of "The Black Guys" 2021

It’s been a big year here at The Glenn Show. So as 2021 draws to a close, I thought it would be a nice idea to round up some choice selections from the conversations I’ve had with John over the past year. This episode is a kind of “best of” compilation of segments that got a big response from viewers or that I personally thought were important or noteworthy. I couldn’t include all of the highlights, but I think these clips give a good sense of what my conversations with John were all about in 20...

Dec 27, 20211 hr 26 min

Amy Wax – Contesting American Identity

On this week’s show, I talk with Professor Amy Wax of the University of Pennsylvania Law School. As you might have guessed, we get into some very controversial territory. But that’s why I enjoy talking to Amy—she doesn’t pull her punches. Amy begins by talking about her position at Penn Law, where a group of alumni are attempting to get her fired . It’s not the first time people have tried this—as Amy notes, she’s been “canceled” many times , but she’s still here. We move on to a discussion of i...

Dec 21, 20211 hr 37 min

John McWhorter – Unsettling the "Settled Questions"

The “common sense” of the Woke Left sees so many issues, from the historical effects of redlining to the relationship between race and IQ, as matters that no longer require discussion. “Redlining is responsible for present-day racial wealth disparities, period. There is no relationship between race and IQ, period. End of discussion.” But the discussion is not over, these matters and many others are not settled. Treating them as such just papers over matters of vital concern that require serious ...

Dec 13, 20211 hr 8 min

A Response to "Simone"

The audiovisual experiments continue here at The Glenn Show. In some of our recent conversations, John McWhorter and I talked about how we would reply to “Simone,” a fictionalized version of one of my students at Brown who believes that systemic racism causes most or all of the racial disparities in the US. I think Simone is wrong about that, but this idea is so widespread that John and I agreed that we can’t just brush it aside. We need to address and refute it head on. We attempted to do that ...

Dec 08, 20216 min

Rav Arora – Race and Crime after the Summer of 2020

This week on TGS we’ve got Rav Arora. He’s a compelling writer on race matters in the US. He’s also a college undergraduate , though it would be a mistake to underestimate him. He’s already published in a number of widely read outlets, including the New York Post , Quillette , and City Journal . He’s also got a Substack called Noble Truths , where he writes about psychedelics, meditation, and cultural trends. I begin by inquiring into Rav’s intellectual background. What is this young guy from Ca...

Dec 07, 20211 hr 25 min
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