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The Gist

Peach Fish Productionswww.mikepesca.com
For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.
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David Kessler on Why Junk Food Is America's Nicotine

Today on The Gist , the Trump administration's lowering of FBI recruitment standards, where irony gives way to petty tyranny. Former FDA Commissioner David Kessler joins to discuss his new book Diet, Drugs, and Dopamine and his petition urging the FDA to strip refined carbohydrates of their "generally recognized as safe" status. Kessler explains why ultra-processed foods act more like narcotics than nourishment, how GLP-1 drugs change the weight-loss landscape, and why toxic fat may be the new t...

Aug 25, 202541 minEp. 2794

Trump's Long Game and Miles Taylor's Warning

Mike revisits an old worry: Trump's policies are built for payoffs far beyond his term—and that's a problem for a man who won't share credit. From tariffs to civil service purges, the risks linger. To set the stage, we go back to a 2018 interview with Miles Taylor, once "Anonymous," whose warnings still resonate as he returns with his new book Blowback. Produced by Corey Wara Production Coordinator Ashley Khan Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠thegist@mikepesca.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ad-sa...

Aug 23, 202532 minEp. 2793

The Working Class Party with the Post-Graduate Jargon

McKenzie Wilson of Blue Rose Research joins to dissect Democrats' branding failures, from alienating language to ignoring cost-of-living pain. She explains why Gen Z may be drifting rightward, why "when we all vote we win" no longer holds, Plus: Trump's doomed "Alligator Alcatraz" detention center, shut down not for human-rights abuses but for threatening orchids and panthers. And in the Spiel it's an antwentig covering Israel, conspiracy theories and "punching left". Produced by Corey Wara Prod...

Aug 22, 202554 minEp. 2792

Not Even Mad: Rikki Schlott and Isaac Saul

New York Post columnist Rikki Schlott and Tangle founder Isaac Saul join Mike to discuss policing Washington, D.C.—who's in charge, who gets blamed, and why federal takeover is more problem multiplier than solution. Then: scalpel or a chainsaw on the syllabus for higher ed. Plus, using the concept of toxic empathy to explain both a recidivist subway-jacker and a diplomatic move toward Palestinian statehood. In Goat Grinders, air travel with babies, The Naked Gun while lying down, and airlines th...

Aug 21, 20251 hr 1 minEp. 2791

CryptoDad's Pirate Clause: Reviving Letters of Marque

Christopher Giancarlo—former CFTC chair and known as "CryptoDad"—joins to explain why the U.S. should build a crypto reserve, just like oil or gold. He recalls a White House summit that treated digital assets with the pomp of a state visit—and unveils a swashbuckling plan to revive the Constitution's old letters of marque to hunt today's digital pirates. Plus murder has almost doubled in D.C. since 2012 but officials and media insist the city is perfectly safe. Produced by Corey Wara Production ...

Aug 20, 202533 minEp. 2790

Rent-Stabilized and City-Run: Mamdani Rises as Rivals Flail

Harry Siegel joins to break down the chaotic New York mayoral race, where Zohran Mamdani looks like the presumptive next mayor but hasn't been fully tested. Siegel warns that old tweets, rent-stabilized housing, and city-run grocery promises could become liabilities once federal pressure mounts. Plus, Trump's trade war bets on an eight-to-eleven-year payoff, a timeline that outlasts his legal term limit and raises questions about intent. Produced by Corey Wara Production Coordinator Ashley Khan ...

Aug 19, 202543 minEp. 2789

Katja Hoyer on Germany's AFD and the Limits of Calling Someone a Nazi

Today on The Gist, the Texas Democrats' walk-out, a dramatic gesture that ultimately did little because they never had the leverage to win. From there he zooms out to Europe, where far-right parties are suddenly topping polls in France, the UK, and now Germany. Historian Katja Hoyer joins to explain what's behind the AFD's rise and why calling them "Nazis" isn't scaring voters away the way it once did. In the spiel, Trump meets Putin in a summit that's long on spectacle but pretty short on subst...

Aug 18, 202529 minEp. 2788

The Spiel Saturday Show

Today on The Gist we air two spiels from earlier in the week. One about the CDC shooting in Atlanta and then one about Matt Taibbi's murder stat takedown of D.C backfires. Produced by Corey Wara Production Coordinator Ashley Khan Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠thegist@mikepesca.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ad-sales@libsyn.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to The Gist: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to The Gist Youtube Page: ⁠⁠⁠⁠http...

Aug 16, 202524 minEp. 2787

The Cheesecake Factory Model of Freedom

In The Age of Choice: A History of Freedom in Modern Life , Sophia Rosenfeld traces how choice evolved from secret ballots and dance cards to consumer overload and political battlegrounds. She also dissects ihow the pro-choice movement's framing was both a strength and a vulnerability. Also, Trump's murder-rate comparison between D.C., Bogotá, and Mexico City, and in the Spiel, the case against "turtling" in public life when threats arise over professors posting their syllabi. Produced by Corey ...

Aug 15, 202535 minEp. 2786

When the Train to Hell Runs on Time

Aziz Huq, author of The Collapse of Constitutional Remedies , explains how liability insurers shape policing in small towns, why "rights versus rights" conflicts—from same-sex marriage to police brutality—often hinge on public trust, and how Chicago's low murder clearance rate reflects deep distrust of law enforcement. He analyzes the Supreme Court's Grants Pass ruling on homelessness, arguing that its "status versus conduct" distinction masks moral judgments about choice and responsibility. Plu...

Aug 14, 202540 minEp. 2785

Rights You Can't Use

Aziz Huq, University of Chicago law professor and author of The Collapse of Constitutional Remedies , lays out how federal courts have gutted the mechanisms for enforcing constitutional rights—blocking individuals harmed by police while greenlighting speculative corporate attacks on regulation. Also, Donald Trump crowns himself de facto CEO of the U.S. chip industry and gatekeeper of U.S. Steel's future. And Matt Taibbi's "year-to-date" murder stat takedown of D.C. backfires once he actually che...

Aug 14, 202537 minEp. 2784

The Case for Good Anger

Samuel Parker, author of Good Anger: How Rethinking Rage Can Change Our Lives , argues that suppressing anger fuels anxiety and that society's overcorrection toward placidity has blunted a vital emotion. He traces its demotion from the Stoics to corporate HR, separates it from violence, and shows how to channel it into productive action. Plus, Donald Trump tries to deal with peace, and in the Spiel, the CDC shooting in Atlanta prompts a pushback against claims that misinformation draws a straigh...

Aug 12, 202539 minEp. 2783

Rebecca Lemov and the Instability of Truth

Host Mike Pesca welcomes Harvard historian of science Rebecca Lemov to discuss her book, "The Instability of Truth," exploring the history of mind control, brainwashing, and hyper-persuasion. They delve into Cold War-era tactics like those used on Korean War POWs and the infamous MKUltra experiments, contrasting historical methods with modern forms of influence. The conversation highlights human suggestibility, the social aspects of persuasion, and the pervasive nature of "cultish" behaviors in contemporary society, from social media to crypto hype.

Aug 11, 202540 minEp. 2782

Sarah Ruhl on Lessons from the Teachers Who Shaped Her

Playwright Sarah Ruhl has collected wisdom from her mentors, from Pulitzer winners to driving instructors, in her new book Lessons from My Teachers . She joins Mike to talk about the art of learning, the balance between control and letting go, writing obliquely about grief (sometimes through a dog's eyes), and why you should thank the people who taught you before it's too late. Also, gerbils, almonds, and the occasional vibrator play. Produced by Corey Wara Production Coordinator Ashley Khan Ema...

Aug 09, 202536 minEp. 2781

Peter Moskos on NYC's Historic Crime Drop and the Lessons for Today

Homicides are down 14% from pre-pandemic levels and other major crimes have followed suit. But what can today's drop teach us about the last great decline, the one that transformed New York in the 1990s? Mike talks with Peter Moskos, former Baltimore cop turned John Jay College professor, about his new book Back from the Brink , an oral history of the NYPD's crime-fighting turnaround. They dig into the role of CompStat, broken windows, and the delicate balance between aggressive policing and com...

Aug 08, 202539 minEp. 2780

Steven Hahn Unmasks the Myth of Liberal America

Diplomacy via tweet rarely ends well, but US ambassadors are now flailing into their way through international tensions with sarcasm, memes, and zero restraint. Plus Steven Hahn, NYU historian and author of Illiberal America: A History, joins to unpack how liberalism has always shared the stage with its illiberal twin. From eugenics to temperance to the penitentiary, Hahn explains how our progressive myths overlook the darker undercurrents of American history. Produced by Corey Wara Production C...

Aug 07, 202537 minEp. 2779

Not Her Type: E. Jean Carroll vs. The President

E. Jean Carroll joins to talk about the lawsuit she won, the president she sued, and the dressing room encounter that changed everything. The author of Not My Type: One Woman vs. a President opens up about the attack by Donald Trump, how she fought to be heard, and what it took—mentally and emotionally to face him in court. They talk trial prep, media backlash, mock juries, and what it means to be believed. Also, what happens when the guy in the courtroom points at your photo and says it's his e...

Aug 06, 202541 minEp. 2778

High Stakes, Low Standards: America's Gambling Gamble

Jonathan D. Cohen, author of Losing Big: America's Reckless Bet on Sports Gambling , joins to explain why our national rush into online sports betting might be a bigger mess than we realize. They talk sketchy app rollouts, bad state deals, and how betting lines went from shady corners to college campus. Plus, why Malaysian women's doubles badminton at 3 a.m. says more about America than we'd like to admit. Produced by Corey Wara Production Coordinator Ashley Khan Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠thegist@mikepesc...

Aug 05, 202538 minEp. 2777

Pay to Play: The NCAA's Big Payout Era Begins

The NCAA's $2.8 billion settlement doesn't just change the rules—it rewrites the entire playbook. Mike talks with Gabe Feldman, director of Tulane's Sports Law Program, about what happens now that schools can pay athletes directly. They get into how the money will be split, why Olympic sports are suddenly on the chopping block, and whether this new system can survive Title IX scrutiny. Produced by Corey Wara Production Coordinator Ashley Khan Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠thegist@mikepesca.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ To advertis...

Aug 04, 202535 minEp. 2776

Puzzling The Puzzle Master on The Puzzler

Today on The Gist we air Mikes appearence on The Puzzler with A.J. Jacobs. Produced by Corey Wara Production Coordinator Ashley Khan Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠thegist@mikepesca.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ad-sales@libsyn.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to The Gist: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to The Gist Youtube Page: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_g⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to The Gist Instagram Page: ⁠⁠...

Aug 02, 202539 minEp. 2775

The NIH vs. The New Grievance Politics

Former NIH director Elias Zerhouni reflects on the agency's triumphs and shortcomings in light of his new memoir, Disease Knows No Politics . He defends the NIH's legacy while addressing critiques from figures like current NIH head Jay Bhattacharya, and warns that proposed funding cuts could severely undermine scientific progress. Also: the decline of late-night TV amid political sameness, the comic potential of Sydney Sweeney's controversial jeans ad, and a failed auction bid for Larry King's d...

Aug 01, 202538 minEp. 2774

Airborne Assumptions and Subventilated Science

Carl Zimmer joins to discuss Airborne: The Hidden History of the Life We Breathe , a book that excavates the forgotten science of airborne disease transmission—from Louis Pasteur's broth experiments to why COVID's airborne nature was dismissed by health authorities. Also : praise for the New York Times ' recent front-page study that honestly asses the failure of a cash transfer program to aid in childhood development. Produced by Corey Wara Production Coordinator Ashley Khan Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠theg...

Jul 31, 202546 minEp. 2773

How to Make Crime Feel Weird

Criminologist Nick Cowen joins to explore how drunk driving transformed from a tolerated norm to a societal taboo, and how deterrence works best when paired with norm-shaping—catching people before tragedy and using lighter sanctions to nudge behavior. He argues that even violent crime clusters could be tackled through community-level norm shifts. Plus, after the worst mass shooting in New York City in 25 years, the New York Times' spotlights the shooter's CTE claims and symbolic vendetta agains...

Jul 30, 202536 minEp. 2772

The Algorithm Is Hollywood's New God

Filmmaker Justine Bateman argues that Hollywood's creative spark has been smothered by fear, corporate consolidation, and algorithmic decision-making. In her view, true artistry requires fearlessness—and God, or something like it—but today's studios follow data, not inspiration. Also in the episode: Trump's presidential library fund keeps growing thanks to defamation settlements and nearly launched merch like MAGA-branded Instant Pots. In the Spiel, The European Union's timid trade posture, favo...

Jul 29, 202533 minEp. 2771

When Hulk Turned Heel

Marc Raimondi discusses Say Hello to the Bad Guys: How Professional Wrestling's New World Order Changed America , his new book on Hulk Hogan's heel turn and how WCW's edgy branding reflected a broader cultural shift. We learn how steroid scandals, media savvy, and black t-shirts reshaped wrestling—and maybe U.S. politics. In the Spiel, Russell Vought's viral soundbites about cocaine beagles and government-funded lizard wind tunnels. Plus: The worst job in Tehran as the wells run dry. Produced by...

Jul 28, 202533 minEp. 2770

Mike Pesca talks NPR Funding on The 21st Show

Today on The Gist. We play back Mikes appearance on the 21st Show where they discuss NPR and its funding. It originally aired on Monday July 28th. Produced by Corey Wara Production Coordinator Ashley Khan Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠thegist@mikepesca.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ad-sales@libsyn.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to The Gist: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to The Gist Youtube Page: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/chann...

Jul 26, 202528 minEp. 2769

Phil Gramm Hearts Capitalism, From Dickens To The New Deal

Former Senator Phil Gramm joins to defend capitalism's record, arguing that the Industrial Revolution improved lives, the New Deal prolonged the Depression, and modern welfare undermines work. He supports Keynesian stimulus in theory—but only if governments also run surpluses, which he says they never do. Plus, Gaza aid failures, Macron's recognition of Palestine, and why peace requires clear-eyed power dynamics, not symbolic gestures. And in The Spiel: Benjamin Crump returns to the spotlight in...

Jul 25, 202538 minEp. 2768

Not Even Mad - Zee Cohen-Sanchez and Jesse Adams

Unf**k America Tour founder Z Cohen-Sanchez and Washington Examiner contributor Jesse Adams join for a tour through Trump's waning immigration support, the public broadcasting defunding that will hurt the next generation of Jesse Adamses, and why even Epstein truthers may be losing the thread. They debate whether GOP border hawks want actual deportations or just spicy cable-news optics, and whether NPR got PBS defunded by sheer association. Meanwhile, the Democrats try to square "abolish ICE" wi...

Jul 24, 202554 minEp. 2767

Ben Smith On Truth At A Lower Resolution

Editor-in-Chief, co-founder of Semafor, and host of the Mixed Signals podcast Ben Smith assesses how the media lost its footing during the Trump years—not through lies, but through disproportion. He critiques the rise of "disinformation" as a catch-all beat and notes that Substack surprised him by housing everything from bug-eating conspiracies to teen memoirists. Plus the structural distrust in media—and how even flawless reporting wouldn't have prevented audience collapse. Produced by Corey Wa...

Jul 23, 202545 minEp. 2766

The Bliss Gene And The Burden Of Mood

Psychiatrist Richard A. Friedman explains how a rare genetic mutation affecting the enzyme FAAH, and a ubiquitous neurotransmitter called Anandamide may account for unusually low anxiety, reduced drug cravings, and an innate buoyancy, the type of which you might find in a daily podcast host. Plus, Louisville reverses its immigration detainer policy under federal pressure, reigniting the debate over sanctuary cities and local autonomy. And in the Spiel a burial standoff concerning the former Pres...

Jul 22, 202533 minEp. 2765
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