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The Gist

Peach Fish Productionswww.mikepesca.com
For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.
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The Gist List Live w Ethan Strauss

Today on The Gist. Ethan Strauss joined Mike Pesca for a Substack Live conversation. Today we air a portion of it focusing on Caitlin Clark and shoes. You can listen to the full interview by clicking the link below. Live w Ethan Strauss Mike Pesca n' Caitlin Clark, Jayson Tatum & you Produced by Corey Wara Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to The Gist: ⁠...

May 24, 202539 min

Funny You Should Mention: Robby Hoffman

Comedian, podcaster, and self-described cutie-in-her-own-way Robby Hoffman drops by to discuss her life, her comedy, and why she takes talking as seriously as any other art form. From growing up ultra-Orthodox and ultra-poor to becoming a sought-after stand-up with a Porsche no one wants, Hoffman explains how she’s thrived in disaster and learned to mine discomfort for laughs. The two explore America’s national personality deficit, what makes a story worth telling, and the joys of conflict when ...

May 23, 20251 hr 6 min

Realign for Palestine

Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib, founder of Realign for Palestine and a nonresident fellow at the Atlantic Council, joins to discuss his effort to reframe Palestinian advocacy around coexistence and accountability. He critiques both Hamas and Israel, pushes for reform within the diaspora, and draws a sharp ideological comparison between Hamas and ISIS. Plus, a defense of the “beneficent billionaires,” spotlighting Bill Gates and Michael Bloomberg for their under appreciated life-saving philanthropy—includi...

May 22, 202534 min

Not Even Mad: Eli Lake, Michael Cohen on Biden's Health, and the New Human-Rights-Free Foreign Policy

Eli Lake and Michael A. Cohen take stock of the Biden health debate—diagnosis, exaggeration, and whether it’s actually affected his presidency. Michael pushes back on what he calls the “decline industrial complex,” while Eli says its denial to think Biden was up to the job. Then they turn to Donald Trump’s proudly post-moral foreign policy, where human rights don’t even make the brochure and alliances are strictly optional. Realpolitik or just real reckless? Either way, they’re not even mad. Pro...

May 21, 20251 hr 6 min

Inside the Movement to Dismantle Democracy in God’s Name

Katherine Stewart, author of Money, Lies, and God: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy , explains how America’s Christian nationalist forces are exporting extremism abroad while cloaking domestic corruption in the guise of faith. Plus a suicide bombing outside a Palm Springs fertility clinic introduces the public to the dark ideology of “efilism”. Plus, Then, another look at the Yale professors fleeing to Toronto: their self-congratulatory tone is punctured by Sarah Longwell and Be...

May 20, 202534 min

Katherine Stewart on Christian Nationalism's Influence on Conservatism

Katherine Stewart, author of Money, Lies, and God: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy , joins to discuss Christian nationalism’s influence on modern conservatism. Also, the distinction between sincere and performative beliefs in the Trump administration, especially economic fictions like tariffs not being taxes. Plus, in the context of assessing Biden’s mental acuity, the new reporting and audio show Robert Hur as a rare source of unvarnished insight, unshaped by partisan aims. Pr...

May 19, 202537 min

Alexa, What's with the Pope's Brother?

Today on The Gist we revisit an interview from 2017 with Lena Kahn and play a segment from this week where Mike talked abouts the new popes MAGA brother. Produced by Corey Wara Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to The Gist: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to The Gist Youtube Page: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_...

May 17, 202523 min

Henry Abbott on the Logistics of Ballistics

Henry Abbott joins to discuss Ballistic: The New Science of Injury-Free Athletic Performance , spotlighting insights from Dr. Marcus Elliott—not just about elite training, but how something as basic as learning to land can change careers and prevent lifelong injury. Plus, the three Yale professors so steeped in the study of fascism they fled to Toronto, prompting a reflection on American resilience versus alarmism. And FEMA’s new director storms in unprepared but aggressive, replacing a Trump-er...

May 16, 202538 min

Jocelyn Benson on Being a Purposeful / Purple State Warrior

Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson joins to discuss her new book The Purposeful Warrior: Standing Up for What's Right When the Stakes Are High. Benson, frontrunner to become Michigan's next governor discusses the tactics she and other secretaries of state used to combat 2020 election denialism, but also her restraint during efforts to keep Trump off the 2024 ballot. Plus, RFK Jr. testifies before Congress and defends hiring a man fined for practicing medicine without a license. Produced ...

May 15, 202543 min

David Graham on The Project and the Plan to Remake American Government

David Graham author of The Project: How Project 2025 is Changing America, explains how Project 2025 seeks not smaller government, but a more obedient one—politicizing civil service, gutting regulation, and embedding a Trump-aligned worldview across federal agencies. He discusses how its authors blend sincere constitutional theory with radical institutional overhaul. Plus, does the Pope's MAGA-leaning brother demystify the Papacy? Produced by Corey Wara Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ T...

May 14, 202536 min

Character Under Fire: Gen. Stanley McChrystal on the Costs of Conviction

Retired General Gen. Stanley McChrystal joins to discuss his book On Character: Choices that Define a Life, and how real character transcends grit or discipline to include values that hold under fire. Plus, Trump touches the economic stove, recoils, and suddenly recession odds drop along with tariffs rates. And from The Hague, Rodrigo Duterte wins re-election as mayor of Davao in a landslide. Produced by Corey Wara Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠s...

May 13, 202531 min

Altman Almighty

Sam Altman’s outsize ambition and messianic optimism take center stage in a conversation with Keach Hagey, author of The Optimist: Sam Altman, OpenAI, and the Race to Invent the Future . From failed flip-phone apps to billion-dollar AI bets, Altman emerges as one of Silicon Valley’s most effective—and unsettling—dream merchants. Plus: Trump’s flying palace may be more than a bribe; it’s a perfect symbol of soft corruption via cushy luxury. And of all the cease-fires for Trump to broker, he choos...

May 12, 202530 min

BLT: Bacon, Lettuce, and Todd

Today on The Gist we play back a section for our Chuck Todd interview that didn't make it on air and revisit a 2020 interview with Don Bacon. Produced by Corey Wara Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to The Gist: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to The Gist Youtube Page: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_g⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscr...

May 10, 202525 min

Jim Lampley on the Blows That Made Broadcasting History

Jim Lampley joins to discuss It Happened!: A Uniquely Lucky Life in Sports Television , his memoir of sports, broadcasting, the randomness of a lucky break, and crying along with Mike Tyson. Plus: Trump’s Surgeon General pick, Casey Means, pitches metabolic woo—we break down several of her claims from appearances with Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson. And: Teens with water guns are triggering 911 calls nationwide—senior assassination season is underway. Produced by Corey Wara Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠thegist...

May 09, 202538 min

Not Even Mad: Eric Zorn and Austin Berg

Austin Berg and Eric Zorn are Not Even Mad as we discuss mayoral overcrowding and Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker, the supposed new MAGA slayer. Plus: a few thoughts on our new American spiritual leader—not the pope, but the Surgeon General. Produced by Corey Wara Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to The Gist: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscri...

May 08, 202559 min

Max Expression, Merz Confusion

Arkells frontman Max Kerman joins to discuss his book Try Hard: Creative Work in Progress , unpacking the craft behind stage banter, songwriting rule-breaking, and joyful collaboration. He explains why athletes lean on superstition while creatives benefit from breaking routine and planting show tickets around Red Deer with a retired farmer. Plus: Germany elects Merz, but to some of us, Fred Mertz is now Chancellor—and the BBC’s schnitzel puns aren't helping. Produced by Corey Wara Email us at ⁠⁠...

May 07, 202541 min

Holy Vehicles and Hollow Coverage

Pope Francis posthumously sends a Popemobile to Gaza — a gesture more symbolic than logistical. Chuck Todd returns to discuss media complicity, Biden’s bubble-wrap presidency, and the audience-capture logic warping modern newsrooms. In the Spiel, Bernie Sanders’ love of the word “oligarchs” versus Elissa Slotkin’s preference for “kings” is perhaps explained by a family history that makes Slotkin a descendant of America’s hot dog royalty. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com...

May 06, 202527 min

Chuck Todd Presses On

Former Meet the Press host Chuck Todd joins to talk about his new podcast, The Chuck Toddcast. He discusses why being a non-pushover and being non-partisan are complimentary, and what too many ex-network stars get wrong about "liberation." Also how Priebus, Pence, and Kushner acted as guardrails whereas Trump 2.0 feels more like a solo demolition derby. Plus: Kristen Welker’s Trump interview somehow included dolls, gas prices under $2, and not ruling out war with Canada. And in The Spiel : if Ca...

May 06, 202539 min

Mike Stops by House of Strauss and The Dispatch

Today on The Gist. Mike was recently on the podcast House of Strauss and The Dispatch Roundtable. We are going to share a portion, but if you want to listen to the rest of them, use the links below! ⁠⁠HoS: Mike Pesca - by Ethan Strauss - House of Strauss⁠⁠ ⁠⁠The Dispatch ⁠ ⁠Podcast - Breaking News Commentary & Analysis⁠⁠ Produced by Corey Wara Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advertis...

May 03, 20251 hr 6 min

Funny You Should Mention: Michelle Buteau

Michelle Buteau stops by to talk about getting high in the reptile house and why she caught flak for doing spon-con souptroversy. We also get into her Dutch husband, the spirituality she doesn’t buy into, and whether her socialism can coexist with her ambition to get paid. Plus, we ask: can a Buteau-pian society have luxe throw pillows? Produced by Corey Wara Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advertisi...

May 02, 202552 min

Rust Director Joel Souza on Tragedy, Survival, and His Non-Relationship with Alec Baldwin

Rust director Joel Souza joins for an interview about finishing a film that nearly killed him—and did kill talented cinematographer Halyna Hutchins. Souza speaks candidly about grief, safety failures, and his estrangement from Alec Baldwin, as well as why completing Rust became a moral obligation rather than a commercial one.Plus National Security Adviser Mike Waltz is out, possibly taking the fall for Trump ally Pete Hegseth. Waltz, with four Bronze Stars and some bipartisan appeal, may have be...

May 01, 202538 min

What is Gen-Z Doing with Mewing?

Sadie Dingfelder returns to investigate the cult of “mewing” — the viral tongue-posture technique that promises to chisel your jaw and change your life, or IS THAT BS? Then we turn to the rarest development of all: Trump, on Day 100 of his second term, strikes a deal with Zelensky but not the big one. Plus, we salute a scrappy little government agency that thrived on efficiency… until Trump and Musk disbanded it anyway. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join The Gist Team⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Produced by Corey Wara Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠thegis...

Apr 30, 202533 min

Hubris Maximus: The Shattering of Elon Musk

Faiz Siddiqui discusses Hubris Maximus his sharp chronicle of Elon Musk’s maximalist vision, self-driving delusions, and the rule-breaking impulses that fuel both triumph and tragedy. Plus we hear a tart exchange in the White House briefing room about Amazon’s decision to itemize tariff costs. Plus, its been 100 days. At least 98 could have been a lot better. ⁠⁠⁠Join The Gist Team⁠⁠⁠ Produced by Corey Wara Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠sales@adve...

Apr 29, 202537 min

Trump 47: It's Not a Heart Attack, It's Gingivitis

David Frum, former Bush speechwriter and Atlantic contributor discusses Republican cowardice, Democratic excess, and the structural dangers facing American democracy. Frum argues that Donald Trump’s 2025 threat is deeper, more organized, and more perilous than ever before. Plus, Axios reporter Alex Thompson’s apt remarks puncture the often hollow spectacle of the White House Correspondents’ Dinner. ⁠⁠⁠Join The Gist Team⁠⁠⁠ Produced by Corey Wara Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ To adver...

Apr 28, 202541 min

The Full Ginsburg

Today on the Gist, we open the vaults to 2020 to revisit and interview with Dr. Paul Offit and we replay Monday's spiel on The Full Ginsburg. ⁠⁠Join The Gist Team⁠⁠ Produced by Corey Wara Email us at ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to The Gist: ⁠⁠⁠https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to The Gist Youtube Page: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg4...

Apr 26, 202523 min

Iran-Contra wrote the Playbook for Presidential Lawlessness

Alan McPherson author of The Breach: Iran-Contra and the Assault on American Democracy joins to discuss the Iran-Contra affair and how it plagued both the end of Regans Presidency and George H. W. Bush’s, but also how it ties into the politics of today. Also, Pete Hegseth is a dirty dirty boy, or at least has a dirty dirty line. Plus, its an Antwentig. ⁠⁠⁠Join The Gist Team⁠⁠⁠ Produced by Corey Wara Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠sales@advertiseca...

Apr 25, 202539 min

Punchlines and Straw Men

Jeff Maurer, former Last Week Tonight writer, has been knee-deep in century-old New York Times clippings—considering the differences between yesterday’s fascism fears and today’s. In Part 2, Jeff analyzes John Oliver’s recent reliance on straw men and Jon Stewart’s fairly triumphant return to The Daily Show. Plus- who is favored in a trade battle between the US and China contested on questions of tolerance for suffering? Join Team Gist Produced by Corey Wara Email us at [email protected] To ...

Apr 24, 202543 min

When Experts Circle the Wagons, The Public Wanders Off

We conclude our conversation with Stephen Macedo and Frances Lee, authors of In Covid’s Wake , exploring how political structures—not just bad actors—amplified the crisis. Plus, revisiting a 2021 Washington Post article that sided with YouTube’s removal of a DeSantis-hosted panel questioning masking for young children. And in "The Spiel", a probe of what experts must do to recover lost public trust, especially when once-dismissed claims turn out to be plausible. Produced by Corey Wara Email us a...

Apr 23, 202536 min

Macedo and Frances Lee In Covid's Wake

The authors of In Covid’s Wake: How Our Politics Failed Us , political scientists Stephen Macedo and Frances Lee, join for a full-show interview to discuss our failures during the pandemic. The evidence shows non-pharmaceutical interventions did nothing, but the tradeoff was trillions of dollars in deficit spending, lost learning and solitary deathbeds. Plus, Pete Hegseth may be leaking more than leadership; after his second round of Signal-based scheming, the veteran Fox-man-turned-defense-secr...

Apr 22, 202537 min

Kilmar, Detained and Unnamed

Senator Chris Van Hollen made the rounds on all five Sunday shows to discuss the detention of Kilmar Abrego Garcia—but curiously avoided using Kilmar’s first name. A dissects of rhetorical and how even drink orders can become political code. Professor Michael Harte talks tariffs and trade and reflects on his time as chief economics advisor to the Falkland Islands. And in the Spiel, a deep dive into the trivia, origins, and peculiar legacy of the “Full Ginsburg.” Produced by Corey Wara Email us a...

Apr 21, 202528 min
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