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The Gartner Talent Angle

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The Gartner Talent Angle podcast is a new and exciting approach to talent management. Every month, we’ll talk with those on the forefront of HR innovation — innovators, academics, HR professionals, economists, coaches — to explore the most interesting and cutting edge ideas in the world of HR and people development. Join us as we reimagine talent.

Episodes

SPOTLIGHT: Addressing the Burnout Epidemic With Jennifer Moss

In her book “The Burnout Epidemic: The Rise of Chronic Stress and How We Can Fix It,” Jennifer Moss implores organizations to design burnout strategies that move beyond apps, wellness programs and perks. Instead, she makes the case for a systematic and preventative approach to building an anti-burnout strategy. To do so, organizations must first understand the key drivers of burnout, why conventional approaches fall short and how leaders can build cultures that prioritize workforce resilience an...

Jun 03, 202526 min

SPOTLIGHT: Designing Work Without Jobs With Ravin Jesuthasan and John Boudreau

Drawing on their professional and academic experience, Ravin Jesuthasan and John Boudreau argue the current work “operating system” is increasingly unable to meet the needs of employees and employers. They join the Talent Angle to discuss their new book, Work Without Jobs: How to Reboot Your Organization’s Work Operating System, and the opportunities for HR to shape a new vision for the future of work. Jesuthasan and Boudreau propose a new work “operating system” based on deconstructed work and ...

May 27, 202524 min

SPOTLIGHT: Sizing the Impact of Skills-Based Hiring, With HBS’ Joseph Fuller

In recent years, organizations have started to experiment with skills-based hiring by dropping degree requirements and other credentials in job postings to unlock new talent populations. However, a fully-realized skills-based hiring approach demands deep change in talent processes and hiring manager practices. To this point, most organizations have been unable to weave this method into the fabric of their talent strategy. Joseph Fuller, professor at Harvard Business School, rejoins the Talent An...

May 20, 202529 min

SPOTLIGHT: Embracing Failure to Cultivate Innovation with Amy Edmondson

In their pursuit of heightened productivity, organizations are leaving little room for failure. However, failures are an inevitable part of the innovation process and often serve as a precursor to breakthroughs. By solely focusing on productivity, organizations may be missing out on valuable opportunities for innovation that could propel them forward. In the worst-case scenarios, a failure-adverse climate can lead employees to hide concerns or problems, which can lead to potentially catastrophic...

May 13, 202527 min

Inspiring as a Leader with Adam Galinsky

Leader and manager development was CHROs’ top priority in 2025, according to the 2025 Gartner HR Priorities Survey. When employees are frustrated by the leadership at the organization, their engagement, performance and productivity suffer. Adam Galinsky, professor at Columbia Business School and author of "Inspire: The Universal Path for Leading Yourself and Others,” joins the Talent Angle to share research on what makes leaders inspiring, rather than infuriating, and how organizations can adapt...

May 06, 202547 min

SPOTLIGHT: Thriving on Conflict with Amy Gallo

Conflict management is an increasingly essential skill for individuals in leadership positions. However, it is a topic that often makes people — especially leaders and managers — feel uneasy. As leaders are responsible for handling conflicts between their employees, teams, and peers, it is crucial for them to have effective strategies for conflict management. Amy Gallo, the author of “Getting Along: How to Work with Anyone (Even Difficult People)," joins the Talent Angle podcast to provide valua...

Apr 29, 202527 min

Making Better Decisions With Justin ‘Hasard’ Lee

Today’s CHROs face a dynamic business environment, and must make difficult, strategic decisions despite uncertainty. Justin “Hasard” Lee, former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot and author of “The Art of Clear Thinking: A Stealth Fighter Pilot’s Timeless Rules for Making Tough Decisions,” joins the Talent Angle to share a decision making framework for leaders to use so assess the problems in front of them, choose the best course of action, and execute decisively. Justin “Hasard” Lee is a former U.S....

Apr 22, 202537 min

SPOTLIGHT: Capturing the Upside of Uncertainty, with Nathan Furr and Susannah Harmon Furr

From the emergence of generative AI (GenAI) to widespread adoption of hybrid work, HR leaders are increasingly called upon to lead their organizations through uncertainty. Authors Nathan Furr and Susannah Harmon Furr join the Talent Angle to explain why uncertainty should be associated with opportunity, not anxiety. They detail how organizations can navigate uncertainty to drive transformation and innovation, and offer tools to help HR leaders develop the “uncertainty ability” in leaders and man...

Apr 15, 202523 min

Exploring Insights from the Gartner’s Futures Lab with Brent Cassell

Navigating new levels of change, CHROs can find it difficult to determine which global and long-term trends matter for their talent and business strategies. Brent Cassell, VP in Advisory at Gartner and member of Gartner’s Futures Lab, joins the Talent Angle Podcast to offer a framework to sense and respond to the macro trends CHROs need to be paying attention to, today. Brent Cassell is a vice president of advisory in Gartner’s HR practice, and he has spent the past 19 years in Gartner’s HR and ...

Apr 08, 202544 min

SPOTLIGHT: Fueling Performance With the Human-Powered Enterprise

Organizations today are grappling with how to manage the merging of peoples’ work and personal lives. With many organizational processes and structures not fully accounting for the human impact they have on their employees’ lives, organizations are now looking for a better approach to the way we work. Peter Aykens and Sari Wilde, two leaders of the Gartner HR practice, offer a new, human-centric, approach that they argue will foster creativity and engagement among employees, ultimately deliverin...

Apr 01, 202529 min

Looking Beyond the 4-Year Degree, With Kathleen deLaski

The workforce is increasingly exploring learning opportunities outside of the four-year college degree, such as vocational training and apprenticeships. However, organizations struggle to adapt their talent processes to a workforce with changing demographics and preferences. Kathleen deLaski, author of “Who Needs College Anymore? Imagining a Future Where Degrees Don’t Matter,” joins the Talent Angle to discuss how organizations can keep pace with an evolving workforce. By creating alignment betw...

Mar 25, 202534 min

SPOTLIGHT: Making Sense of the Labor Market with Gad Levanon

Three key changes are impacting today’s labor market: a changing workforce composition, evolving attitudes toward work, and new tools and technologies to empower employees and candidates. HR leaders must understand the implications of these changes as they set talent strategies and build out capabilities for their organizations. Gad Levanon, chief economist of the Burning Glass Institute, joins the Talent Angle to discuss evolving dynamics in the labor market and offer practical recommendations ...

Mar 18, 202530 min

SPOTLIGHT: Boosting Workforce Productivity with Booking Holdings CHRO Paulo Pisano

The proliferation of remote and hybrid work has forced managers and HR leaders to rethink how they keep tabs on workforce productivity. Meanwhile, emerging technologies like generative AI have raised expectations for what future productivity can look like. While productivity has always been elusive to define and measure in the context of knowledge work, today’s environment has further challenged organizations to develop new strategies. Paulo Pisano, CHRO of Booking Holdings, joins the Gartner Ta...

Mar 11, 202529 min

Communicating for Connection, With Charles Duhigg

Communication is a critical skill for leaders and managers, who run into problems when their teams feel unsupported or unheard. Charles Duhigg, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and author of “Supercommunicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection,” joins the Talent Angle Podcast to share his findings on communication. Charles identifies different archetypes of conversations and explains how to smoothly navigate them. By articulating the skills and behaviors that leaders must develo...

Mar 04, 202548 min

SPOTLIGHT: A 4-Day Work Week to Recharge the Workforce With Alex Soojung-Kim Pang

The four-day work week has gained momentum in recent years, but has not yet entered the mainstream. Alex Soojung-Kim Pang, Global Programs Director at 4 Day Week Global, joins the Talent Angle to explain why organizations should consider experimenting with new ways of working. He highlights the importance of rest for human creativity and problem solving, and outlines how a shortened work week can unlock human potential to benefit both employers and employees. Alex Soojung-Kim Pang a leading voic...

Feb 25, 202528 min

Cultivating Change Leaders, With Red Hat CPO Jennifer Dudeck

Change agility — the ability to effectively manage and adapt to change — is a top leadership priority for organizations in 2025. As disruption becomes the norm, leaders must adapt and equip their teams to do the same. Red Hat CPO Jennifer Dudeck joins the Talent Angle Podcast to share her insights on how to lead through change and build a strong bench of future change-ready leaders. Jennifer Dudeck is Senior Vice President and Chief People Officer at Red Hat. In this role, she leads the team res...

Feb 18, 202542 min

SPOTLIGHT: Embracing CHRO Digital Leadership, with Kemper CHRO Ismat Duckson Aziz

Technology is advancing at a breakneck speed, presenting both new opportunities and challenges for organizations. Ismat Duckson Aziz, Kemper CHRO and Chief Administrative Officer, joins the Talent Angle to discuss how CHROs can shape the technology strategy of their organization. She explains how CHROs can overcome the anxiety that comes with diving into the rapidly changing environment of technology, and assert themselves as drivers of enterprise innovation. Ismat Duckson Aziz is the Chief Huma...

Feb 11, 202524 min

Building a Learning Culture, With Bala Sathyanarayanan

Learning and development is a key lever for CHROs to deliver strategic impact, but it can be a challenge to keep pace with workforce needs. As technology innovation impacts both critical skills and learning delivery, CHROs must evaluate the effectiveness of their learning initiatives and foster an environment of learning. Bala Sathyanarayanan, CHRO at Greif, joins the Talent Angle Podcast to share insights on how HR can build a learning culture. He explains why continuous learning is a necessity...

Feb 04, 202537 min

SPOTLIGHT: Driving Cross-Generational Collaboration, With NIH’s Julie Berko

As the global workforce continues to age, it is increasingly vital for organizations to have both efficient succession plans and effective knowledge sharing between their employees. Julie Berko, Director of the Office of Human Resources at the National Institutes of Health (NIH), joins the Talent Angle to discuss how organizations can leverage data to enable knowledge sharing and simplify succession planning. She also explains how organizations can identify future skills needs and build strategi...

Jan 28, 202527 min

Beating Burnout, With Daisy Auger-Domínguez

Burnout can impact employees at all levels, including the very managers and leaders tasked with spotting it on their teams. Daisy Auger-Domínguez, author of “Burnt Out to Lit Up: How to Reignite the Joy of Leading People,” joins the Talent Angle Podcast to discuss how she managed her own burnout while leading a global team through the COVID-19 pandemic. Drawing on her experience as a chief people officer (CPO), Daisy identifies warning signs of burnout that leaders should watch out for and provi...

Jan 21, 202543 min

9 Trends Shaping the Future of Work in 2025

To access the 2025 future of work trends research, see: https://www.gartner.com/en/human-resources/trends/future-of-work-2025-toolkit Entering 2025, organizations face a host of environmental shifts, such as economic uncertainty, changing workforce demographics and continued AI innovation. As CHROs set their strategies for 2025, they must help their organizations navigate unforeseen challenges by considering the newest developments in the world of work. In this episode of the Talent Angle, Gartn...

Jan 09, 202548 min

Best of 2024: Careers

In 2024, experts joined the Gartner Talent Angle to discuss the world of careers. Author Dorie Clark shares how HR leaders can help employees achieve meaningful career growth and long-term success at work. Author and Professor Martin Gutmann looks back through history to surface new ideas about identifying strong leaders and building effective succession pipelines. Dorie Clark is a consultant and keynote speaker and teaches executive education at Columbia Business School. She is the Wall Street ...

Dec 31, 202433 min

Best of 2024: The Labor Market

Expert guests joined the Gartner Talent Angle throughout 2024 to discuss shifts in the labor market. Economist and labor market expert Gad Levanon shares how HR leaders can capitalize on changes in the talent landscape to give their organizations an edge. Professor Joseph Fuller then offers findings from his latest research on skills-based hiring, offering practical guidance to help organizations broaden the aperture of their talent pools. Gad Levanon is chief economist of the Burning Glass Inst...

Dec 24, 202440 min

Best of 2024: Future of Work

In 2024, expert guests joined the Gartner Talent Angle to discuss the everchanging future of work. Professor and author Matt Beane shares his insights on how learning and development (L&D) leaders can play a strategic role in unlocking human ability in the age of intelligent machines. Alex Soojung-Kim Pang unpacks how the four-day work week can recharge the workforce, accelerate performance and benefit organizations. Matt Beane is an assistant professor in the technology management program at th...

Dec 17, 202439 min

Best of 2024: Leadership

In 2024, expert guests joined the Gartner Talent Angle to share their advice on the trickiest apsects of leadership that are critical to success in the modern world of work: uncertainty, conflict and failure. Nathan Furr and Susasannhah Harmon Furr detail how organizations can navigate uncertainty to drive transformation and innovation. Amy Gallo shows how leaders can effectively manage conflicts and transform them into productive dialogues within their organization. Amy Emondson offers insights...

Dec 10, 202440 min

SPOTLIGHT: Hiring Second-Chance Talent With Jeff Korzenik

In this Gartner Talent Angle episode, author and banker Jeff Korzenik shares insights about the second-chance talent pool—that is, reemploying candidates with criminal records. He offers practical advice on tapping into non-traditional sources of talent by differentiating between felony types, partnering with nonprofits and reevaluating legacy talent policies and processes. Jeff Korzenik is Chief Investment Strategist for Fifth Third Bank, one of the nation’s largest banks. He is the author of t...

Dec 03, 202425 min

SPOTLIGHT: Still Leading From the Heart With Mark Crowley

Mark C. Crowley joins the Gartner Talent Angle to discuss why today’s unparalleled workplace challenges prompted him to release a second edition of his book, “Lead from the Heart: Transformational Leadership for the 21st Century” more than a decade after it was first published. Backed by scientific findings on employee motivation, Crowley outlines common misconceptions about leading from the heart. And drawing on examples from his own experience, he shares practical advice for how to effectively...

Nov 26, 202423 min

SPOTLIGHT: Humanizing Digital Transformation With Gerald Kane

As many organizations struggle to keep pace with technological innovations, digital transformation is a top priority. Gerald Kane, professor of information systems at the University of Georgia’s Terry College of Business, joins the Gartner Talent Angle to explore the opportunities these digital disruptions create and to inspire HR leaders to approach digital transformation with confidence. He explains how people and processes, not just technology, are crucial to successful digital transformation...

Nov 19, 202434 min

Fighting Against Time Management With Oliver Burkeman

Employees and leaders frequently grapple with the challenge of insufficient time. This scarcity often serves as a legitimate rationale for incomplete tasks and unmet objectives at work, prompting employees to explore various time management strategies and tools. Oliver Burkeman, acclaimed author of the New York Times bestseller "Four Thousand Weeks" and "Meditation for Mortals," offers a contrarian viewpoint on the Talent Angle podcast. Oliver suggests that time management is inherently flawed, ...

Nov 12, 202446 min

SPOTLIGHT: Leading Through Constant Change With Caleb Gardner

Author Caleb Gardner argues that while change has been constant for some time, organizations are still unprepared to address it. In his latest book, “No Point B: Rules for Leading Change in the New Hyper-Connected, Radically Conscious Economy,” Gardner lays out his vision for how organizations should approach change in the new environment. The founder of the consulting firm 18 Coffees joined the Gartner Talent Angle Podcast to share examples of organizations undergoing transformation, and he ext...

Nov 05, 202427 min
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